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--- Log opened Mon Apr 15 00:00:21 2002 --- Day changed Mon Apr 15 2002 00:00 < esden> . 00:01 < tsa> rxr: btw....wir brauchen keinen irc-logger, solange wir esden haben, scheint mir *g* 00:01 < tsa> esden: schreib mal "irc-logger" zu deinem rock workfield in der gallery dazu ;-) 00:01 < esden> jaaa irssi macht dass ;-) 00:02 < tsa> hehe 00:02 < esden> ich mache dann auch noch stats usw ... 00:02 < esden> hehe neues spielzeug *haendereib* 00:04 < esden> jo passt alles 00:04 < esden> noch cronjob machen ... 00:05 < esden> nur wo soll ich die logs hinschicken ? ich wuerde dass ungern an die allgemeinen schicken ... 00:05 < esden> also ich meine dass raw zeig ... 00:05 < esden> zeug meine ich ... 00:07 -!- rxr [~rene@port-213-20-128-37.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:07 < esden> huh den rene hats rausgehaun ... 00:07 -!- rxr [~rene@port-213-20-228-193.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:09 < esden> re rxr 00:10 < esden> ist dein dsl getrennt worden ? 00:10 < rxr> jups 00:11 < esden> soo ich mache noch ne schuene html version von den logs ... 00:11 < rxr> esden: dann kannst du ach gleich noch mein Nick updaten ;-) 00:12 < rxr> Und vielleicht die Städte umstellen in die Form (Germany/Bavaria) ... 00:13 < rxr> Niedersachsen ist glaube ich: Lower Saxony ... 00:16 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p508169AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:16 < esden> ja mache ich ... mom ich muss erst dass mit den irclogs machen 00:29 < esden> https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/irclogs-nice/rocklinux-2002-04-14.html 00:30 < rxr> aurgh! Geht das auch kontrastreicher? ;-) 00:30 < esden> momment bin dabei 00:31 < rxr> wie heißt SMPs IRC client nochmal? 00:31 < esden> ich kann die "terminalschrift" auch ganz weiss machen ... mache ich auch ;-) 00:32 < esden> soo bitchx ? oder vielleicht irssi ? eins von beiden 00:32 < esden> ich schwuer auf irssi ... ich habe lange bitchx benutzt 00:32 < esden> und dann irssi gesehen ich bin sofort umgestiegen 00:32 < esden> ;-) 00:33 < rxr> jups irsii isses .. 00:33 * -> esden test 00:33 < rxr> esden: URL handy? 00:34 < rxr> nein! die von irsii 00:34 < esden> lool ... 00:35 < esden> https://www.irssi.erg 00:35 < esden> argh 00:35 < esden> https://www.irssi.org 00:35 < esden> soo 00:36 < rxr> huh - hatte ich die nicht gerade probiert?? - Hm jetzt tuts ... 00:37 -!- You're now known as esden_test 00:37 -!- You're now known as esden 00:37 < esden> soo 00:37 < esden> jetzt sollte ich alles haben 00:39 < rxr> alles != test ist für schwarzen Hintergrund zu dunkel ... 00:40 -!- inode [~inode@cs666986-234.satx.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 00:41 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@pD902322A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:45 * rxr tritt gerade seinen 120Mhz P54 Router mit ner irsii compilierung ;-) 00:48 < rxr> esden: in wich intervals will you irc log be updated? 00:49 < esden> the raw are always up to date 00:49 < esden> and the html versions will be updated in 5 min interval 00:49 < esden> i think that it is enough 00:50 < esden> 15 min would be ok too I think 00:50 < esden> what do you think ? 00:50 < esden> but first I have to make the irclog2html converter usable 00:51 < rxr> yes - ok I just wondered why there were no updates - but in fact the day changed - so I was looking in the yesterday versions ... 00:53 < inode> damn 1.5.14 keeps craping out at textinfo and doesnt seem to be able to get psutils 00:54 < rxr> psutils is down for weeks now ... this is a know problem ... 00:55 < inode> textinfo went up on ver. # 00:55 < inode> 4.2 or something like that 00:56 < inode> trying 1.7.0 4-13-2002 00:57 * rxr the p54 is still compiling ;-) ... 00:58 < inode> how do i get the smallest possible download and build so i can move that to another box and then finish -base and -ext .... 00:59 < huebi> inode: 00:59 < inode> yes 00:59 < huebi> inode: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rock-pkg-1.5/base-archive/texinfo/texinfo-4.1.tar.bz2 00:59 < huebi> inode: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rock-pkg-1.5/base-archive/psutils/psutils-p17.tar.bz2 00:59 < inode> fuq it im trying 1.7 00:59 < inode> cool i need that one 01:00 < huebi> inode: 1.7 does not build in the moment. 01:01 < inode> ok a least i have really got started on that..... 01:03 < inode> so how do i get rescue(i think) so i dont have to get base? 01:11 < rxr> huebi: it's not that bad - it builds mostly ... 01:12 < rxr> inode: 1.7 doesn't have subdists nor install-disks at the moment ... (we are reworking this whole thing ...) 01:13 * rxr wow the P54 finished ... 01:13 < huebi> rxr: Yes, but inode is perhaps not so experienced to solve the rest to get through it 01:13 < inode> im going back to 1.5.14 01:13 < inode> starting all over 01:14 < huebi> and I tested 1.5.14 again and again... Now all builds without any know complications. 01:14 < huebi> +n 01:15 < esden> sieht schon langsam annehmbar dass html log 01:17 < inode> :) 01:19 < rxr> esden: The time is missing in the html version :-( 01:22 < huebi> esden: kannst du einen BOLD font nehmen? 01:23 < esden> rxr: yess I am working on it 01:23 < esden> huebi: where what ? 01:25 < huebi> https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/irclogs-nice/rocklinux-2002-04-14.html <- Isch saeh nix ;) 01:25 < rxr> huebi: isn't the font bold enough? 01:25 < huebi> rxr: No, not at 1600x1200 01:26 < huebi> and perhaps without serives 01:26 < rxr> I would prefer morew unbold font - but maybe slightly heigher ... 01:26 < esden> huebi dann nimm mozilla und drehe die fontgruesse hoch ;-) 01:26 < rxr> huebi: your personal font and DPI setting is a matter of configuration ;-) 01:27 < huebi> esden: Geht das auch ohne serifen 01:27 < huebi> ? ;) 01:28 < huebi> so wie in gnome term 01:30 < esden> huebi: ja welchen allgemeinen font soll ich denn nehmen ... 01:31 < esden> ich muss einen nehmen derr fixed width ist und ueberall verfuegbar 01:31 < huebi> ich seh gerade nach 01:32 < esden> https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/irclogs-raw/rocklinux-2002-04-15.html <- schau jetzt ! 01:33 < th> wie schneid ich in bash die ersten n zeichen eines strings ab? 01:33 < esden> ich kann zwar die seite auf meinem laptop nicht mehr anschauen denn die fonts sind zu gross aber sonnst passt alles :-( 01:33 < huebi> th probier mal cut 01:34 < th> cut zeichenweise? ich kann das nur mit -d'xyz' 01:34 < th> aber mal gucken 01:34 < huebi> esden: Ich kann sie auch nicht mehr lesen. Kannst du mal bold ausprobieren? 01:36 < esden> ja ... hier schau an ... 01:36 < esden> dass ist noch schlimmer ... 01:36 < th> ahja 01:36 < esden> wenigstens bei mir ... 01:37 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rocklinux-2002-04-15.html <- besser lesbar 01:37 < esden> nicht wirklich ... 01:37 < esden> bei mir weniger ... 01:38 < esden> naja egal ich werde eh die seite net lesen ... ... wenigstens nicht allzuoft ... 01:39 -!- hack^mobile [~hackbard@pD9E0AFAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:40 < huebi> esden: Arial als fixed width waere richtig gut. Gibts aber leider nicht 01:40 < tsa> so....zeit, mal ein wenig an der matratze zu lauschen... 01:40 < tsa> viel spass noch. 01:41 < esden> ich brauche bold aber fuer andere sachen .... 01:41 < huebi> cu tsa 01:41 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD95258CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:41 < esden> huebi ich frage mich wie du ueberhaupt surfen kannst wenn dir ein standard font zu klein ist ... 01:42 < huebi> Die Lesbabkeit von weiss auf schwars ist halt sehr schlecht. Umgekehrt funktioniert das sehr gut. 01:43 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/index.html <- das sind auch nur Standard Fonds und hier habe ich ueberhaupt keine Probleme. 01:45 -!- rene_ [~rene@port-213-20-228-193.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:45 -!- rene_ is now known as rxr2 01:48 < esden> huebi: noch ne frage ... was machst du auf einem terminal ? 01:48 * rxr need a test line for a irsii running in detached mode on a remote host ... 01:48 < huebi> esden: Was meinst Du? 01:48 < rxr2> cool das ROCK ja richtig ;-) 01:48 < esden> schwarz auf weiss ? 01:49 < esden> @ huebi 01:49 < inode> how do you restart a build? 01:49 -!- rxr [~rene@port-213-20-228-193.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:49 -!- rxr2 is now known as rxr 01:49 * rxr bye bye xchat ;-) 01:51 < huebi> esden: At HP-UX and SINIX the terminal is black on white. Normaly the fonts are fixed width on a terminal 01:51 < huebi> inode: How did you start the build? 01:52 < esden> rxr: hehe ... ich habe auch am anfang xchat benutzt ... 01:52 < rxr> von euch wird man ja auch regelrecht gezwungen von eMail auf IRC umzusteigen ... 01:52 < esden> huebi: wenn ich ehrlich sein soll gerade dass nervt mich an den oguis bei den unixen ... 01:53 < huebi> oguis ? 01:53 < esden> gui's 01:53 < esden> meine ich sorry 01:54 < huebi> *lol* ich meinte so richtige Terminals mit Roehre und Tastatur ;))) 01:54 < esden> ja da auch ... 01:54 < inode> ./scripts/Build-All COPY 01:54 < esden> stimmt ... 01:54 < esden> ich kriege immer augenkraebs davon ... 01:54 < huebi> inode: ./scripts/Build-All COPY <- and it will start again. 01:55 < inode> yes it starts again but it removes all that has been compiled i want to keep that which compiled good 01:56 < rxr> inode: touch _nodeL_ 01:56 < rxr> _nodel_ 01:56 < huebi> uderscorenodelunderscore 01:57 < inode> @ the cdl ? 01:57 < rxr> yes 01:57 < rxr> you need to create the file _nodel_ 01:57 < esden> huebi: schaue nochmal ... istadass akzeptabel ? 01:57 < inode> ok i''l try that 01:57 < rxr> huebi: is this still vaild your 1.5 ? 01:58 < huebi> rxr: hae? what is valid? 01:59 < rxr> that the file nodel needs to exist to not wipe out the dist files ... 02:00 < huebi> esden: jo. kool! 02:00 < esden> huebi: puhhh *schweiss_abwisch* *gg* 02:01 < huebi> rxr: yes, it is. I think to change it in the future because getting something deleted in accident is awfull 02:01 < rxr> in 1.7 we don't do this anymore, too 02:01 < rxr> I'll also start the rescue target today (after the sleep period) 02:04 < huebi> I changed everything to be copied, not to be moved in thebuild. So if something breaks I just can fix it and restart the build. Also the target directory can now be deleted without problems because it's just a copy 02:07 < esden> soo irclog2html fertig ... puhh 02:07 < inode> openssl.org is down 02:08 < th> ack 02:09 < esden> ahh time faehlt noch ... 02:12 < inode> brb 02:12 -!- inode [~inode@cs666986-234.satx.rr.com] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.1") 02:13 < rxr> maybe for we should witch to english again, so that other ROCK people can read it, and to have only one language for the weekly/dayly reports to rock-linux ... 02:17 < esden> boys look now ... is it acceptable like this ? : https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/irclogs-raw/rocklinux-2002-04-15.html 02:17 < esden> yes seems so ... that we will have to ... 02:18 -!- inode [~inode@cs666986-234.satx.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 02:18 < hack^mobile> n8 02:18 -!- hack^mobile [~hackbard@pD9E0AFAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:19 < esden> one thing I know now for sure I would be lost without the knowlidge of perl 02:19 < huebi> esden: jo. is good 02:20 < huebi> Generated by irclog2html.pl 2.1 by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! <- do you want to remove this? 02:20 < esden> huebi: should I ? 02:21 < esden> this is not really true now cuz I have rewritten the core ;-) 02:23 < huebi> It nice to mention the Autor but do you want to read: "Written with Masosoft Wuerg on Windows 00" under a Word.doc ? 02:24 < huebi> esden: Just let the original author stay in the source, add yourself and remove the advertising stuff ;-) 02:24 < rxr> esden: to bother u again, the URLs could be in a lighter color ;-) 02:30 < esden> rxr: I will correct it in a moment 02:31 < esden> what color would you like ... red green ... magenta ? 02:31 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-209-107-204.woh.rr.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:32 < rxr> esden: maybe green? ;-) 02:32 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-209-107-204.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 02:36 < esden> ok green 02:38 < inode> huedi do you have another src for ssl sence openssl.org is down.? 02:40 < th> inode: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rock-pkg-1.5/base-archive/openssl/ 02:43 < inode> thnx th 02:44 < esden> ok after the nekt update the links should be ok 02:45 < esden> yepp they are ;-) 02:46 < rxr> very nice - good work ;-) 02:47 < rxr> esden: if you are going to be awake some more minutes you might like to fix my nick and the english translation of Niedersachsen in the gallery ;-) 02:49 < esden> thanks ;-) 02:50 < esden> hmm will see ... 02:50 < esden> I wanted first make channel statistics ... 02:50 < esden> but first I fix your nick 02:50 < rxr> esden: if you have nothing to do ... 02:51 < esden> I have a lot to do as you can see ;-) 02:53 < rxr> esden: the right e' in my name is: é 02:59 < esden> aha ... 02:59 < esden> the url changed ... : https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/irclogs-raw/rocklinux-2002-04-15.html 03:00 < esden> to : https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/irclogs/rocklinux-2002-04-15.html 03:04 < esden> rxr: gallery updated 03:08 < huebi> esden: kool, looks great. 03:12 < rxr> esden: you can also remove Valentin Ziegler from the _might be added list_, when you take a look into the dRock ChangeLog you'll see he only did 2 and a half thing ... 03:13 < th> wie mach ich mit iptables nen port-forwarding? 03:13 < th> incoming xyz soll auf die selbe maschine auf einen anderen port 03:13 < esden> rxr: wird gemacht 03:15 < esden> rxr: done 03:17 < rxr> th: during a quick look into the iptables HOWTO I did not found out how ... 03:17 < th> thanks anyway 03:18 < th> i just start the service twice 03:30 < rxr> so next 1.7 patch went out to Cliff - I'll visit my two metres now ... Good night! 03:33 < huebi> rxr: gute nacht 03:34 < esden> https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/ircstats/index.html << -- hihi 03:35 < esden> was sagt ihr ... fuer dass layout kann ich nichts ... 03:35 < esden> aber sonnst ist doch cool oder ? 03:36 < esden> ich mache die stats dan jede 12 stunden ... 03:36 < esden> ist dass ok ? 03:39 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@p50815162.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:41 < esden> soo hehe ich bin gespannt ;-) 03:47 < huebi> esden: alter channel fooder 03:48 < huebi> ;)))) 03:50 < esden> lool ;-) 03:50 < esden> bei den stats kommt alles raus ;-) 03:51 < esden> tut mir leid dass ich ne labertasche bin ... 03:51 < huebi> bei #rocklinux gibt's so 3 Tratschtanten... 03:51 < esden> aber sonnst wuerde hier ja ueberhaupt nichts los sein 03:51 < huebi> hehe 03:51 < esden> 3 ? 03:51 < esden> naemlich ? 03:52 < esden> aja ich mache die statistiken jetzt jede 2 stunden 03:53 < huebi> du rxr und ich 03:53 < th> n8 # 03:53 < esden> n8 th 03:53 < esden> huebi: stimmt ... 03:53 < esden> *gg* 03:53 -!- th [th@delta.boerde.de] has quit ("zzZZzz") 03:53 < huebi> n8 th 03:53 < esden> nunja ich lege mich jetzt betti ... 03:53 < esden> schlafe gut du auch @ huebi 03:54 < huebi> nach esden 03:54 < huebi> +t 04:35 < inode> 1.5.14 is just not working for me 04:35 < inode> error thus far 04:35 < inode> ./2-e2fsprogs.err ./3-lesstif.err ./3-mesalib.err ./3-rsync.err 04:35 < inode> ./2-texinfo.err ./3-libsafe.err ./3-mtools.err ./3-xaw3d.err 04:35 < inode> ./3-gpm.err ./3-lprng.err ./3-ncftp.err ./3-xfree86.err 04:41 < inode> xfree not compiling is causing a cascade of failures 04:49 < inode> ncftp-3.1.2-src.tar.gz is now ncftp-3.1.3-src.tar.gz 04:51 < inode> ftp.lysator.liu.se is not there 05:09 < huebi> 2-e2fsprogs.err <- whats up there? 05:11 < inode> i dont know 05:12 < huebi> inode: less 2-e2fsprogs.err ;) 05:15 < inode> gion.c -o region.o 05:15 < inode> In file included from region.c:13: 05:15 < inode> make[2]: *** [region.o] Error 1 05:15 < inode> make[2]: Leaving directory `/rock-linux/src/e2fsprogs-1.27/e2fsck' 05:15 < inode> make[1]: *** [all-progs-recursive] Error 1 05:15 < inode> make[1]: Leaving directory `/rock-linux/src/e2fsprogs-1.27' 05:15 < inode> make: *** [all] Error 2 05:16 < inode> usr/include/unistd.h:479: parse error before character 0177 05:17 < huebi> you are compiling on Athlon XP for k7? 05:18 < inode> yes 05:19 < huebi> Stop the build and restart it, please. e2fsprogs should work then 05:19 < huebi> did glibc work in stage 1 05:20 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@pD9E3E67A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:21 < inode> it looks like it i can oly find gcc 05:23 < inode> ok im starting the build over 05:25 < huebi> if you get the same errors change the number of jobs in the Config file to 1 05:26 < inode> what the config file name? 05:28 < inode> found it 05:29 < huebi> ./scripts/Config 05:29 < inode> i was in stage 5 and am now using stage 1 05:54 < inode> glibc did fine 06:00 < huebi> inode: good 06:01 < huebi> and rocklinux.dyndns.org does fine too again 06:01 < huebi> ;) 06:17 < inode> what do the numbers mean? i.e.) 1-grep 2-gcc ??? 06:20 < huebi> stage in what it is compiled 06:47 < inode> things are looking good this time 06:47 < huebi> inode: What did you change? 06:48 < inode> ummm nothing really other than stage 1 06:49 < inode> oh and i didnt use _nodel_ 06:52 < inode> there where a few files i had to dl and place by hand 06:55 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 06:55 < jonath[an]> re 07:26 < inode> only 3 errors so far 07:27 < inode> 3-libsafe.err 3-ncftp.err 3-rsync.err 07:32 < rxr> moin 07:33 < rxr> you didn't got sleep huebi ? 07:34 < jonath[an]> rxr: ive update my kernel 07:34 < jonath[an]> rxr: dRock now it's fine 07:34 < jonath[an]> i updated my system to a 2.4.18 kernel, now it's ok 07:35 < rxr> jonath[an]: nice! 07:35 < jonath[an]> what about 1.6? 07:35 < jonath[an]> is it ok? 07:35 < jonath[an]> i mean to try a build 07:35 < rxr> an updated rc1 is out - it should be just fine 07:36 < jonath[an]> well, im not going to start in rc1 i guess 07:36 < rxr> I'm only waiting for some reports - and then the final 1.6.0 will go out in a week or so ... 07:36 < jonath[an]> that sounds cool 07:36 < jonath[an]> you are really working fast rene 07:36 < jonath[an]> :) 07:37 < jonath[an]> sth more, in 1.4.2, some KILL scripts ar missing 07:37 < jonath[an]> well, this is rc2 07:37 < jonath[an]> in nfsd 07:37 < jonath[an]> ill check the scripts later, maybe tomorrow 07:38 < jonath[an]> nfs-client and nfs-server 07:38 < jonath[an]> i ve to leave now, bye 07:39 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has left #rocklinux () 07:41 * rxr shortly away 07:58 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 07:58 < jonath[an]> have you seen Mike1 since 2 days ago? 08:00 < jonath[an]> bye 08:00 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has quit (Client Quit) 08:12 * rxr back 08:16 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 08:16 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 08:26 < rxr> hm taking a look into the gcc maliing-list the gcc-3.1 seems to be delayed for some weeks ... 08:52 < huebi> moin 08:55 < rxr> hi huebi 09:01 < huebi> I'm tired. But many things are now solved by th 09:12 < huebi> :q 09:12 < huebi> hehe wrong window 09:17 < rxr> ;-) 09:17 < rxr> bin wieder wech ... 09:17 -!- rxr is now known as rxr_away 09:34 -!- tsa_ [~tsa@sec-01.bi.devcon.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:34 -!- tsa_ is now known as tsa 09:34 < tsa> hi 09:53 < inode> rock need to be made where if "one" has enough ram that a swap partition is not required 09:54 < inode> i had to add a swap to start compiling and the process hasnt even touch any of it 09:54 < inode> 2:57am up 7:41, 4 users, load average: 1.23, 1.26, 1.26 09:54 < inode> 64 processes: 62 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped 09:54 < inode> CPU states: 94.4% user, 5.4% system, 0.0% nice, 0.2% idle 09:54 < inode> Mem: 513200K av, 507472K used, 5728K free, 0K shrd, 51568K buff 09:54 < inode> Swap: 530104K av, 0K used, 530104K free 379500K cached 10:39 < huebi> inode: Build-All tests for swap. So that also small machines can compile rock. 11:34 < tsa> bbl.. 11:34 -!- tsa [~tsa@sec-01.bi.devcon.net] has quit ("wech.") 11:58 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:58 < tsa> hi 11:58 < tsa> (aain) 11:58 < tsa> +g 12:05 -!- th [th@delta.boerde.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:07 < tsa> moin th 12:15 < th> moin 12:30 < huebi> moin, tach zusammen. 12:30 < huebi> ;)) 12:31 < th> heyho huebi 12:33 < huebi> Merke: Lass' niemals jemanden der noch ausreichend Ahnung hat deine Netzwerkswitche einstellen. Da geht sonst nichts mehr. :> 12:33 < huebi> s/noch/nicht/ 12:34 < th> hehe 12:37 < huebi> mii-diag ist da sehr gut um Auto-negotiation festzustellen. Wenn der switch aber 100baseTx-FD forced verschlucken sich die Treiber gerne und gehen dann auf isdn-Geschwindigkeit. ;) 12:42 < huebi> so, mal Mittag jagen gehen ;))) 12:46 < tsa> guten hunger.. 13:01 < esden> good morning!!! 13:04 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:05 < tsa> hoi esden 13:05 < tsa> hi netcrow 13:05 < tsa> irgendwer von euch erfahrung mit datenrettung von kaputten platten? 13:05 < netcrow> hi 13:05 < netcrow> hm, unter windows a bisserl.. 13:06 < netcrow> notgedrungen ;) 13:13 -!- armijn [~armijn@humbolt.nl.linux.org] has joined #rocklinux 13:13 < armijn> re 13:15 < netcrow> re 13:20 < huebi> tsa: jo, ich 13:20 < huebi> hi armijn netcrow esden 13:21 < armijn> hi huebi 13:26 < netcrow> hi huebi 13:27 < tsa> huebi: hm....kaputte 4gb ide-platte mit 1 ntfs-partition haette ich anzubieten. 13:27 < tsa> sieht imho sehr nach elektronik-schaden aus. 13:27 < huebi> tsa: Was ist denn genau los mit ihr? 13:27 < huebi> achso 13:27 * armijn takes the 4 GB harddisk with NTFS and shoves it up tsa's ... 13:27 < armijn> :)\ 13:27 < armijn> now, that must hurt. 13:27 < tsa> huebi: bios meckert, linux dmesg: DriveNotReady, Error, ide-bus-reset 13:28 < tsa> armijn: hehe 13:28 < huebi> brb 13:28 < tsa> auch mit dd ist nix runterzukriegen. 13:28 < armijn> tsa: fdisk? 13:28 < tsa> armijn: keine partitionen mehr vorhanden. 13:28 < armijn> tsa: what if you run fdisk on it and try to make an ext2fs on it? 13:29 < armijn> I mean, who cares about the NTFS partition?? 13:29 < tsa> armijn: then the original data will be lost. 13:29 < armijn> but they are lost already, right? 13:30 < armijn> you can just run fdisk, without writing the partition table... 13:30 < armijn> see what it does 13:30 < tsa> armijn: one of our "azubi"s does - the disc contains his project to become "it-systemkaufmann" which has to be delivered today in the afternoon. 13:30 < armijn> ah. 13:30 < armijn> one of those situations... 13:30 < tsa> armijn: ah....i've already tried that - no success. 13:31 < tsa> murphy's law. 13:31 < armijn> it completely b0rks? 13:31 < tsa> yes. 13:31 < armijn> then you're fucked 13:31 < tsa> i know.. 13:31 < armijn> could be that it's just the first block that is damaged... 13:31 < tsa> thanks, anyway. 13:32 < armijn> but that usually contains the partition table 13:32 < armijn> dunno if NTFS contains spare superblocks 13:33 < tsa> i don't know what the bios disk check does - but since it fails, i assume it a eletronic problem. 13:33 < armijn> I hate electronics 13:37 < huebi> tsa: Hast Du noch _genau_ so eine Platte? 13:37 < armijn> k, big rant to rock-ports is in the ehter 13:37 < armijn> ehr, ether 13:37 < th> tsa: is it possible to dd from the disk when skipping some blocks? 13:38 < huebi> th: The disk is not recognized by the BIOS 13:38 < th> huebi: linux does not care what bios sais 13:38 < th> huebi: linux does not care what bios says 13:38 < th> huebi: if he could not access it he wouldn't get "DriveNotReady, Error, ide-bus-reset" 13:39 < armijn> hmm...all this stuff is being logged 13:39 < armijn> I'm not sure if I like that 13:39 < tsa> th: no way. i've tried, but did not get a single byte off the disk. 13:40 < huebi> "DriveNotReady, Error, ide-bus-reset" <- You also get this on serverworks chip sets with no drive attached. 13:40 < th> huebi: your ideas was to open both discs and exchange the floppys? 13:40 < tsa> huebi: nein, leider nicht. ist ne alte 4gtb fujitsu.....sonst haette ich schon nen platinen-tausch versucht. 13:40 < huebi> th: no, just to change the electronics. 13:41 < tsa> th: opening the drive won't make things any better, i guess.. 13:41 < th> huebi: isn't that the same? 13:41 < huebi> Then you will have some more errors but it should work most of the time 13:41 < th> tsa: not if you don't have another disk like it 13:42 < th> tsa: you already tried other ide-controllers, did you? 13:42 < tsa> th: yes... 13:42 < huebi> I don't like to open modern disks. They really don't like dirt. 13:43 < th> tsa: well... the restore from backup ;-) 13:43 < th> s/the/then/ 13:44 < huebi> tsa: Better contact the "Pruefungsgremium" and find a woring solution. 13:44 < huebi> +k 13:44 < armijn> heh, my mail to rock-ports is already there... 13:45 < armijn> there's even some non-sparc specific stuff in there... 13:45 < armijn> like, why do we link to the wrong glibc in stage 1... 13:51 < armijn> huebi? why is everything removed from ext-config in CVS? 13:52 < huebi> everything? 13:52 < armijn> well, a lot 13:52 < armijn> I just read the changelog 13:53 < huebi> armijn: only the .ext files are needed. .pz .desc .conf are autogenerated 13:53 < armijn> ah, ok 13:54 < tsa> huebi: already done - the "azubi" may deliver his docs tomorrow... 13:57 < armijn> ripclaw is way too optimistic with sparc64 that we're "95% done" 13:58 < esden> ok ... 13:58 < esden> now I have eaten 13:58 < esden> now I can chat ;-) 13:59 < esden> how are you guys ? 13:59 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@pD9EB7CE2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:59 < aszlig> hullo 13:59 < armijn> esden: just read my mail and you know how I feel. 14:00 < esden> armijn: not really sorry ... :-( 14:01 < armijn> esden: well, quite frustrated about some things in ROCK, because assumptions have been made, which turned out to be false 14:01 < esden> aha ... what assumptions do you mean ? 14:01 < armijn> and I don't know which process installs <linux/autoconf.h> 14:02 < armijn> esden: that every build system has gawk 14:02 < armijn> esden: and that you build on glibc2.2 14:03 < esden> hmm ... have you spoken with clifford ? 14:03 < esden> he wanted to eliminate this problem 14:03 < armijn> strange thing is, the gawk thing was only discovered when I added egcs64 14:03 < armijn> esden: the glibc2.2 problem? 14:03 < esden> yes that is one thing ... 14:04 < armijn> well, it is just adding something to the library path and then it should work 14:04 < esden> you mean that you can not build rock on glibc< 2.2 am I right ? 14:04 < armijn> I can't see how he missed that. 14:04 < armijn> esden: well, not just that...we link to the wrong libraries in stage 1 14:04 < esden> yes that is what I thought 14:05 < armijn> I checked the scripts...and it is so obvious. 14:05 < esden> so this problem is to be solved ... 14:05 < esden> armijn: ok 14:05 < armijn> yeah, well, it is just adding two things in ./scripts/Build-Pkg 14:06 < armijn> but I don't have a glibc 2.1 system to check on :( 14:06 < esden> clifford wants to make an environment to build the 1 stage 14:06 < esden> in stage 0 14:06 < armijn> yet another stage... 14:06 < esden> I do not know exactly how does he want to do it but he wants 14:06 < armijn> it could be that I'm wrong, though... 14:06 < armijn> Clifford will have to correct me there 14:06 < armijn> *if* I'm wrong 14:07 < esden> that will solve the problem that you have to have rock on your machine to build rock 14:07 < esden> or very new debian or so 14:07 < armijn> yeah 14:07 < armijn> but I don't have a glibc 2.1 machine 14:07 < esden> yes ok 14:08 < armijn> do you? 14:08 < esden> so call clifford ... or write him a email ... instead toring your hair from your head 14:08 < armijn> what hair? 14:09 < armijn> first I want someone to test it on a glibc 2.1 machine 14:09 < esden> hmm ... 14:09 < esden> this is currently only an idea ... 14:10 < esden> he has not implemented it yet ... 14:10 < armijn> do you know someone with a glibc 2.1 machine who is willing to test it? 14:11 < esden> *think* 14:12 < armijn> or maybe you got an old machine which you can "downgrade"? 14:12 < armijn> my PC broke down, otherwise I'd have done it myself 14:14 < huebi> This line is only for statistcs. Please ignore it. ;) 14:14 < huebi> *lol* 14:16 < armijn> pffff 14:16 < huebi> hehe 14:16 < huebi> armijn: _all_ you ever said here is logged. 14:16 < huebi> twice 14:17 < armijn> huebi: starting from yesterday. 14:17 < tsa> hehe 14:17 < armijn> (I think) 14:17 < huebi> by SMP and by our friends on the other side of the Atlantic. 14:17 < esden> argh my mother is going on my nervs 14:18 < armijn> esden: that's what mothers are for 14:18 < huebi> esden: Don't let your nerves lay arround. 14:18 < esden> ok ... will do 14:18 < esden> huebi: morning 14:18 < huebi> hi esden 14:18 < tsa> moin esden 14:19 < esden> i have to make the statisticgeneration faster ... 14:19 < huebi> hehe 14:19 < esden> 15 min .. 14:19 < huebi> This line is also only for statistcs. Please ignore it. ;) 14:20 < esden> rofl ... ;-) 14:20 * tsa waits for huebi to begin copy&pasting man-pages into the channel to get better stats... ;-) 14:20 < armijn> maybe we should put huebi on top in the statistics, always 14:20 < esden> cheeeter !!!! 14:20 < tsa> lol 14:20 < netcrow> cat /dev/urandom | bitchx ;-) 14:20 < huebi> man man: 14:20 < armijn> yeah, huebi cheats... 14:20 < tsa> *sigh* 14:21 < tsa> btw....we don't have a man-page for tar(8) 14:21 < aszlig> ah, re netcrow 14:21 < aszlig> re 14:21 < huebi> *LachundvomStuhlkipp* 14:21 < aszlig> ;) 14:21 < tsa> gnu stuff uses info... 14:21 < esden> huebi cheeter ... camper ;-) MUAHAHA (/me feels like a little child now) 14:21 < tsa> anyway, a man page would be nice. 14:21 < th> yes 14:21 < aszlig> typical spammers have the best stats ;) 14:21 < th> full ack. we need a manpage for tar 14:21 < tsa> every binary should have one. 14:22 < tsa> th: ok. where can we "borrow" one? 14:22 < th> i know slackware has tar-manpages 14:22 < tsa> RH has, too. 14:22 < netcrow> hi aszlig 14:22 < th> tsa: but RH sucks ;) 14:23 < tsa> but I'm unsure which is better or if they even are the same ones.. 14:23 < tsa> th: ACK. but doesn't slackware suck, too? ;) 14:23 < armijn> BSD? 14:23 < th> perhaps gnu has some info->man converting facility? 14:23 < th> tsa: no 14:24 < aszlig> oh, hi netcrow 14:24 < th> ich sollte mich auf meine compilerbau-pruefung konzentrieren 14:24 < huebi> X-redirection over T-DSL is really slow 14:24 < tsa> i guess other program don't have a man page, either.. 14:24 < tsa> +s 14:24 < th> tsa: but tar has 14:24 < tsa> th: make bootstrap ;) 14:25 < tsa> pruefungen....jaja, irgendwann mach ich auch mal nen vordiplom.... 14:25 < tsa> bin ja erst im 8. semester ;) 14:25 < armijn> th: stop about compilers... 14:25 < esden> boys you want to include a tar manpage in rock ? 14:25 < tsa> esden: jupp. 14:26 < armijn> th: working on a type inferencing assignment now 14:26 < esden> hmm ... ok do it ... 14:26 < armijn> *not funny* 14:26 < huebi> esden: man tar or nothing ;> 14:26 < esden> huebi: hehe 14:27 < tsa> perhaps we should tar manpages from different distros and make an online poll on the rocklinux page.. 14:27 < th> hmmm there is a manpage for "info" 14:27 < tsa> collect 14:28 < tsa> .oO( choose you favorite tar man page) 14:28 < tsa> scheisse....irgendwie kann ich heut nich tippen. 14:28 < th> and the info for man is the man in info-viewer 14:28 < esden> yes lets make a man-/info-page ticker on rocklinux site 14:28 < th> perhaps we should build the tars from info-file 14:28 < esden> woohooo 14:28 < th> s/tars/mans/ 14:29 < esden> tsa: wann kannst tippen ? ;-) 14:29 < tsa> esden: *patsch* 14:29 < tsa> ;) 14:30 * huebi will jetzt 'ne Schlaegerei sehen ;)) 14:30 < esden> tsa: auaaa ... du ... du .... brutala du 14:30 < armijn> huebi: you mean with beer and such? 14:30 < armijn> and Bratwurst? 14:30 < tsa> hehe 14:30 < esden> tsa: *re_patch* 14:30 < huebi> kool, action 14:30 < tsa> .oO( wir brauchen dringend quake3.rocklinux.org ) 14:30 < netcrow> mhm..bratwurst and beer 14:31 < th> eyy das is ja peinlich mit euch... es wird doch geloggt ;) 14:31 < tsa> oder UT ;) 14:31 < huebi> und das dreifach, mindestens 14:31 < esden> tsa: *patch -Nur < schlaege_an_tsa.patch* 14:31 < tsa> arghl.. 14:31 < armijn> I'll just grab the beer, you guys can have the Bratwurst 14:32 < huebi> cat 1 > /proc/atomic/bomb ,hehe 14:32 < tsa> esden: -Nur is for /usr/bin/diff... patch needs -p0 ;-) 14:32 < th> https://cygwin-lite.sourceforge.net/html/tar.html 14:32 < esden> tsa: yess right ... 14:32 < esden> tsa: *patch -p1 < schlaege_an_tsa.patch* 14:33 * tsa slaps esden around with a bid Un*x manual ....ouch, that hurts! 14:33 < esden> now better ? @ tsa 14:33 < tsa> ;) 14:33 < tsa> s/bid/big/ 14:33 < th> https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/irclogs/ 14:33 < esden> auuu ... tsa you can menage to lift it ??? 14:33 < th> ouhm 14:33 < th> aehm 14:33 < th> das wollte ich nicht pasten 14:33 < esden> th i know 14:34 < tsa> esden: Stapelfahrer Klaus is my companion ;-) 14:34 < th> https://freshmeat.net/projects/info2man/ 14:34 < huebi> tsa: lol 14:34 < th> DAS wollte ich pasten 14:34 < esden> th: but you can not be so stiff all you life 14:35 < th> ;> 14:35 < armijn> now th gets more stats... 14:35 < huebi> tsa: Where can I get Staplerfahrer Klaus ? 14:35 < armijn> as in, pasting more links... 14:35 < esden> tsa: that hurts ... me head feels so unexistant ... 14:35 < armijn> who is staplerfahrer klaus? 14:35 < huebi> klaus is _the_ killer 14:36 < armijn> k, whateve4r... 14:36 < esden> armijn: the killer "stapelfahrer" 14:36 < armijn> gonna work on an assignment now... 14:36 < huebi> klaus is _the_ assasin (I think is correct) 14:36 < armijn> will be back later... 14:36 < armijn> cu 14:36 < huebi> by armin 14:36 -!- armijn [~armijn@humbolt.nl.linux.org] has quit ("ircII EPIC4pre2.500 -- Accept no limitations") 14:36 < th> tsa: get this info2man and supply man-pages! 14:36 < tsa> th: ok. 14:37 < esden> woohoo the activity stats are going up! 14:37 < tsa> huebi: https://phobos.fs.tum.de/etnom/Staplerfahrer-Klaus.avi 14:37 < tsa> ~ 85mb 14:38 < huebi> *sauuug* 14:38 < th> hmm 14:39 -!- term_emu [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:39 < huebi> I have short film called sysadmin. It's also very nice 14:39 < esden> hi term_emu 14:39 < th> ich hab das hier auch schon ewig liegen 14:39 < th> ich schaus mal an 14:40 < esden> I want this film too ... 14:40 < huebi> nur das Band ist am Anfang defekt. 14:40 < huebi> ;(( 14:40 < term_emu> hi 14:40 < esden> ach mennooo .... 14:40 < huebi> hi term_emu 14:40 < th> outch 14:40 < huebi> th: hast du sysadmin? 14:40 < th> noe 14:41 < huebi> na dann muss ich SCSI-Befehle lernen ;) 14:41 < th> outch2 14:41 < th> AUA 14:42 < th> was is sysadmin? 14:42 < huebi> ein absolut schraeger Film ueber sysadmin. Zum totlachen. ;) 14:42 < th> lol outch3 14:42 < th> "man hat ja schliesslich keine 2 linken haende" 14:43 < tsa> rxr2 14:43 < tsa> was giving us earache, yelling 13% of the time 14:43 < tsa> ircstats rule! 14:43 < tsa> ;) 14:43 < th> lol 14:43 < th> klaus is heftig 14:43 < huebi> This line is only for statistcs. Please ignore it. ;) 14:43 < esden> yess I know ;-) @ tsa 14:43 < tsa> huebi: cheater! 14:43 < tsa> *G* 14:43 < huebi> hehe 14:44 < th> LOL 14:45 < esden> lol 14:46 < tsa> I'll start pasting kernel sources here when everybody is asleep ;-) 14:46 < th> appetitlich 14:47 < esden> tsa ... you will then fly a long bow >_< 14:47 < th> i could uuencode my /dev/urandom... 14:47 < tsa> hehe 14:48 < esden> hmm I think I will have to shutdown the statistics :-(((( 14:49 < th> esden: no. 14:49 < th> esden: i know this phase from other channels. 14:49 < th> esden: the situation will calm down... ;) 14:49 < tsa> hehe 14:49 < esden> th: good .... 14:49 < th> anyway i don't know why we need statistics 14:49 < esden> I know this too from our bchat 14:50 < esden> but there it is never calming down ... there are only whinnees ... 14:51 < esden> th: I made the statistics because I allready have made logs 14:51 < esden> so it was easy to set them up 14:51 < esden> and I think that it is funny 14:52 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh 14:56 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("[BX] Silly wabbit, BitchX is for kids!") 14:59 < huebi> hehe, hier ist gerade 2 Leuten richtig schlecht geworden. Jaja Klaus, die Maus... 14:59 < tsa> hehe 14:59 < tsa> spass muss sein. 15:00 < th> huebi: ich war aber auch knapp davor ;) 15:05 < esden> ja ich glaube es euch ... bei mir hat sich der magen auch gefaehrlich bewegt als ich den klaus den stapelfahrer geschaut habe ... 15:06 < esden> ahh "Random Signoffs" gehen jetzt in den stats auch wieder 15:17 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:17 < esden> lool ... 15:17 < snyke> hi 15:17 < snyke> :) 15:17 < esden> dor naechste ingolstaedter 15:17 < esden> hi snyke 15:18 < aszlig> hullo 15:18 < snyke> ui hi aszlig 15:19 < esden> also wenn es so weiter geht dann haben wir bei rocklinux die greusste menge der benutzer und developer genau in ingolstadt ... 15:19 < tsa> hehe. 15:19 -!- sleon|tuX [~sleon@p50835875.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:19 < aszlig> esden: hrm, wieviel sinds jetzt aus in? 15:19 < snyke> ich :) 15:19 < tsa> bielefeld: mindestens 5 rock installationen. 15:19 * aszlig ;) 15:20 < aszlig> esden: 3? 15:20 < th> auf jeden fall haben wir wohl mehr als 6 installations worldwide 15:20 < tsa> hehe 15:20 < esden> blindcoder, praenti_ZzZz, fake, snyke, esden 15:20 < aszlig> esden: wenn ma's genau nimmt, dann 1 15:20 < esden> dass sind alles ingolstaedter 15:20 < aszlig> esden: aber net umbedingt rl-devel 15:20 < esden> ja der praenti_ZzZz, esden sind entwickler 15:21 < esden> der blindcoder, netcrow sind benutzer 15:21 < aszlig> blindcoder - jaja, des soll auch mal wieder aus seinem persistenten idlen herauskommen :P 15:21 < esden> fake weiss es selber nicht ... 15:21 < aszlig> s/des/der/ 15:22 < snyke> esden 15:22 < esden> ihr zwei aszlig, snyke weiss ich auch nicht wass ihr seid ;-) 15:22 < esden> snyke: ja? 15:22 < snyke> der fake hat heute gesagt er gehe jetzt mandrake installiern :) 15:22 < aszlig> esden: *g* 15:22 < aszlig> snyke: waas!? 15:23 < esden> der ist echt ein spongo 15:23 < esden> der ist echt geistig instabil ... 15:23 < aszlig> *lmao* 15:23 < esden> dass ist nicht mehr normal ... 15:23 < snyke> *g* 15:23 < snyke> achja: ich bin freebsd :) 15:23 < aszlig> *grml* 15:23 < snyke> hm? 15:24 < aszlig> snyke: dann bin ich ja noch naeher an rl als du :P 15:24 < esden> der snyke ist mit bsd garnicht soweit weg wie du denkst aszlig 15:24 < aszlig> esden: ja, k 15:25 < esden> rl ist teilweise an bsd angelaehnt ... 15:25 < aszlig> esden: unix-derivat is eigentlich unix-derivat ;) 15:25 < aszlig> esden: also, isses eigentlich egal 15:25 < esden> make world ... ist ja mit dem in rl enthaltenem Build-All vergleichbar 15:25 < huebi> hier gibt's 9 rocklinux server. 15:26 < snyke> hm 15:26 < huebi> und bei mir zu hause noch mal 3 15:26 < aszlig> hrhr 15:26 < esden> gut huebi ... 15:26 < snyke> esden: make buildworkd => mix :) 15:26 < snyke> s/k/l 15:26 < esden> die anderen hier wie der aszlig oder snyke sind einfach zu FAUL um sich mit rl auseinander zu setzen ... 15:27 < aszlig> esden: or too busy 15:27 < aszlig> esden: or too stonde *gg* 15:27 < aszlig> s/nde/ned/ 15:27 < esden> there is never such a thing called too busy 15:28 < esden> that is only the will that counts 15:28 < huebi> esden: and time ;P 15:28 < aszlig> esden: k, okay, i'll flame the too of ;) 15:29 < esden> if you want you find time to install rock on your box @ huebi 15:29 < huebi> esden: Definitly Yes! 15:29 < aszlig> esden: hrm, maybe i'll install it, too... erm, depends on time :P 15:29 < esden> so ther is no excuse ... ;-) 15:30 < aszlig> esden: don't want to wipe out my whole sys to inst rl 15:30 < th> the word is spelled definitively and has another sense 15:31 * huebi is dreaming of the bigest water cooling tower for a PC ever seen 15:31 < snyke> esden> glaub kaum das du zeit hast mir fortbildung zu geben 15:31 < aszlig> snyke: rtfm *lol* 15:31 < snyke> der hannes hat - und der is eben freebsd entwickler 15:31 < th> snyke: du kannst doch lesen? 15:31 < snyke> aszlig> hab ich gmacht, war alles falsch 15:32 < snyke> bzw. nicht das was ich wollte 15:32 < esden> huebi: I want to see that !!!! 15:32 < aszlig> snyke: what did you want? 15:32 < esden> huebi: I want photos !!! 15:32 < snyke> einen router mit always-on dsl verbindung 15:32 < huebi> In the moment it taler than me 15:32 < snyke> die dsl line aufbaun ging noch 15:33 < huebi> esden: But it must be _BIGGER_ 15:33 < snyke> aber das ppp mit --natd pppoe gestartet werden muss stand nirgends 15:33 < snyke> *blabla* 15:33 < aszlig> snyke: a continuously ping every 20 secound should work 15:33 < snyke> das mein ich ned 15:33 < snyke> deswegen verbindet er noch ned 15:33 < aszlig> snyke: oh... 15:33 < snyke> den keep-alive-ping hab ich scho drin 15:33 < esden> huebi: but I want to see it ... and know how it works ... 15:33 < aszlig> snyke: your problem is the connection :P 15:33 < snyke> hat ja alles super funktioniert bis zu dem scheiss headcrash 15:34 < huebi> esden: You will get Photos 15:34 < esden> huebi: good ;-) 15:34 < th> rocklinux und dann kein helm auf dem kopf... selber schuld 15:34 < th> huebi: du baust wassergekuehlte kisten? 15:34 < huebi> snyke: Bang Head Here - hehe 15:34 < aszlig> th: /me hates to wear helmets ;) 15:34 < huebi> th jo 15:35 < th> huebi: baust du mir auch eine? 15:35 < aszlig> snyke: what was after it? 15:35 < huebi> snyke: do you now have a broken monitor or head? 15:36 < th> perhaps the keyboard 15:36 < aszlig> snyke: you want to automatically connect? 15:36 < huebi> th: sieh sie dir erst mal an, wenn sie fertig ist. Dann entscheide dich ;) 15:36 < huebi> 250mm Abflussrohre sind nicht so einfach zu bekommen ;) 15:36 < snyke> aszlig> joaeah 15:37 < aszlig> hrm, maybe snyke is dead... 15:37 < th> huebi: ich will kein monster sondern nur nen kleinen bigtower 15:37 < aszlig> hey, he's alive! 15:37 < th> huebi: und vorallem LEISE 15:37 < snyke> jop 15:37 < snyke> hey - 5 chats gleichzeitig behandeln is ned so einfach 15:37 < snyke> und nebenbei soll ich noch coden 15:38 < aszlig> snyke: gimme ssh-access to your system ;) 15:39 < snyke> *lol* 15:39 < snyke> ok 15:40 < snyke> aber dann ohne login ok? 15:40 < snyke> also nologin.sh oder sowas 15:40 < aszlig> hrhr 15:40 < esden> snyke: bist du aber gemein ... 15:42 < snyke> hehe 15:42 < snyke> :) 15:43 < aszlig> hrhr 15:44 < aszlig> snyke: haett ich mir auch denken koennen 15:44 < aszlig> snyke: hab schon 'ne ganze sammlung von usern auf irgendwelchen rechnern 15:44 < aszlig> snyke: aber mit richtiger shell 15:45 < snyke> i know 15:46 < aszlig> snyke: eg: garak ;) 15:46 < esden> aszlig: dir vertrauen leute einfach zu schnell ... 15:46 < esden> und die von altmuehl am schnellsten ;-) 15:46 < aszlig> *lol* 15:47 < aszlig> hab auch root-access bei einigen... 15:47 < aszlig> aber noch nie irgendwas zerstoert, geloescht, ge`rm -rf /`t, usw 15:48 < esden> ja ... dass ist brav ... 15:48 < esden> *taetshel* 15:48 < aszlig> gut, was bringt das auch 15:48 < snyke> esden: ich bin auch anet-boy 15:48 < snyke> also verurteile nicht die allgemeinheit der anetler :) 15:48 < aszlig> snyke: hmm, hab ich bei dir net schonmal nen account gehabt? 15:49 * aszlig collects root-accounts 15:49 < snyke> nnnein 15:50 < snyke> mit an sicherheit grenzender wahrscheinlichkeit nicht 15:50 < snyke> nur der garak 15:50 < aszlig> snyke: och, schad' ;) 15:50 < snyke> weil ich den persönlich kenn 15:50 * aszlig auch... 15:50 < aszlig> hrhr 15:50 < snyke> und der esden, zweckZ bChat einrichten 15:50 < snyke> und der fake und netcrow 15:50 -!- sleon_ [~sleon@p50835875.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:50 -!- sleon_ [~sleon@p50835875.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 15:50 < snyke> die hatten alle einen zusammen :) 15:50 < aszlig> aha? und der heisst guest, richtig? 15:51 < aszlig> hmm... 15:51 < aszlig> *beisnykenachsicherheistlueckensuch* 15:52 < snyke> nein 15:52 < snyke> bitte nicht 15:52 < snyke> :( 15:52 < aszlig> hmm, ftp 15:54 < snyke> ? 15:57 < aszlig> snyke: you have new mail... 15:59 < snyke> wo? 15:59 < aszlig> snyke: root 15:59 < snyke> ah 15:59 < snyke> super 15:59 < snyke> aszlig@msaft 15:59 < aszlig> snyke: hehe 16:00 < snyke> so 16:00 < aszlig> snyke: hassu fwlogwatch drauf... 16:00 < snyke> ICH HAB GAR NIX DRAUF VERDAMMT 16:00 < snyke> das is ein unkonfigurierter sendmail 16:00 < snyke> ich hab an dem sys so gut wie nix gemacht 16:00 < snyke> so 16:00 < aszlig> snyke: fwlogwatch!=sendmail 16:00 < aszlig> mal testen 16:00 < snyke> *klonk* 16:00 < snyke> so schlau wär ich auch 16:00 < snyke> sendmail is tot. 16:00 < snyke> so 16:01 < snyke> hm 16:01 < snyke> lol 16:01 < snyke> Apr 15 14:15:41 cyron talkd[79862]: recv: Socket operation on non-socket 16:01 < snyke> Apr 15 14:16:04 cyron last message repeated 196441 times 16:02 < aszlig> snyke: cheater 16:02 < snyke> das wär ein netter syslog flood *g* 16:02 < snyke> warum? 16:02 < snyke> o.o 16:02 < aszlig> snyke: read the chatlog ;) 16:02 < snyke> ? 16:05 < aszlig> https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/irclogs 16:05 < snyke> whoha 16:05 < snyke> https://computer.t-online.de/comp/aktu/nach/ar/CP/ar-filme-online.html 16:05 < snyke> read! 16:07 < aszlig> hmm, k 16:07 < esden> ok ... when I can not download the films I do not watch them at all ... 16:07 < esden> that is my motto ... 16:08 < snyke> hm 16:08 < snyke> hehe gute einstellung 16:08 < snyke> hm 16:08 < snyke> im IRCnet sins grad wieder voll am taken 16:08 < snyke> hmmm 16:08 < snyke> #altmuehlnet ist opless 16:09 < snyke> mit 14 pll drin 16:09 < snyke> ppl 16:10 -!- surprise [kdlcjc@greencard.inder.eu.org] has joined #rocklinux 16:13 < esden> surprise: wie heisst der ircnet server ? 16:13 < esden> sorry surprise 16:13 < esden> i mean snyke 16:13 < aszlig> esden: nimm irgendeinen 16:13 < esden> ja name ... 16:13 < aszlig> esden: zum bleistift irc.uni-erlangen.de 16:13 < snyke> irc.netsurf.de f.e. 16:13 < esden> hi surprise so by the way ;-) 16:13 < aszlig> esden: oder irc.freenet.de 16:13 < snyke> irc.belwue.de 16:13 < esden> jaja ... 16:14 < snyke> irc.fu-berlin.de 16:14 < snyke> :) 16:14 < surprise> hi 16:14 < surprise> irc.openprojects.net 16:14 < snyke> ja, da gibts aber keinen opless äanet 16:17 < tsa> hm... 16:18 < tsa> wie man hier sieht, klappts auch one op recht gut. 16:18 < tsa> ohne 16:18 < tsa> *grmpf* 16:18 < aszlig> jep 16:19 < aszlig> ;) 16:19 < aszlig> thats much better ;) 16:20 < snyke> hm# 16:20 < esden> ja tsa aber hier haben wir chanserv der uns op geben kann wenn der gebraucht wird ... im ircnet gibt es nicht ... 16:20 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 16:20 < armijn> re 16:21 < esden> die haben da keine services :-(( 16:21 < snyke> noteserv :) 16:21 < tsa> esden: im ircnet herrscht auch noch die meinung, man braeuchte +o zu chatten.. 16:21 < esden> re armijn 16:22 -!- [BenHur] [~benhur@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:22 < [BenHur]> opf 16:22 < tsa> hehe. 16:23 < [BenHur]> hehe ... "#rocklinux" is nen april scherz .... 16:23 < esden> tsa: +o braucht man fuer ordnung schaffen ab und zu ... zum chatten braucht man +o nicht ... dass ist so alsob du fuer deine taegliche arbeit den root account auf deiner kiste benutzen wuerdest ;-) 16:23 < [BenHur]> *** Channel #rocklinux was created at Mon Apr 1 00:17:34 2002 16:23 < snyke> lol 16:23 < snyke> :) 16:23 < armijn> benhur: of course 16:23 < armijn> rock linux is just an april fools joke 16:24 < armijn> I mean, creating your own distro...that sounds too good to be true, right? 16:24 < esden> [BenHur]: huh ich habe es nicht gewusst ... 16:25 < esden> armijn: seems so ;-) 16:30 < esden> ok I code the install_bin now ... 16:31 < snyke> hui 16:31 < snyke> viel spaß 16:31 < armijn> esden: can you do me a favour? 16:31 < esden> armijn: really ? 16:31 < armijn> esden: is there any glibc stuff installed in stage 1 in /usr/lib? 16:31 < esden> puhh ... 16:32 < esden> directly in /usr/lib ? 16:33 < esden> or dist/usr/lib 16:33 < esden> ? 16:33 < armijn> dist/usr/lib of course 16:33 < armijn> (sorry) 16:33 < armijn> and in dist/lib 16:33 < esden> ahh ok ... I was littlebit shocked ... 16:33 < esden> dunno ... I will have to make the stage one ond see for myself ... 16:35 < esden> 3,41GB that sux !!! 16:36 < snyke> hm? 16:36 < snyke> wo? 16:36 < esden> traffic on apollo ... during the last month ... >_< 16:36 < armijn> all your irc logs 16:37 < snyke> hm? 16:37 < snyke> esdi: viel? 16:37 < esden> nope armijn not yet ;-) 16:37 < snyke> eher wenig! 16:37 < esden> surprise: too much 16:37 < esden> argh 16:37 < snyke> :) 16:37 < snyke> warum? 16:37 < snyke> der fw hat doch auch 10gb gmacht oder? 16:37 < esden> i mean snyke 16:37 < snyke> in seinen besten zeiten 16:38 < esden> yes but that is not good like this ... 16:38 < snyke> und jetz is im bchat sogar noch dauer-idlen, d.H. eigentlich dürfte da ja relativ wenig drauf sein 16:38 < esden> we do not have money to pay that traffic 16:38 < snyke> hmm 16:38 < esden> and the first traffic producer that will be turned out will be apollo 16:38 < aszlig> snyke: hmm, coukd you possibly speak english or c? 16:39 < aszlig> s/oukd/ould/ 16:39 < snyke> nod vaeri gud :) 16:39 < snyke> bud a bid :) 16:39 < armijn> anyone got a glibc 2.1 system ready to build rock on? 16:40 < th> hmm 16:40 < armijn> I might have a patch... 16:40 < th> libc-2.1.3.so 16:40 < th> ROCK Linux 1.4.0 i686 (native, 2001/04/28) 16:41 < armijn> just needs to be tested first... 16:41 < armijn> th: but you can't build a new ROCK on that, with glibc 2.2, right? 16:41 < th> armijn: don't know 16:41 < armijn> hmm... 16:42 < th> i always install binary from cd. i build extensions from source then and some more packages 16:42 < esden> that is what should be tested ... 16:43 -!- sleon|tuX [~sleon@p50835875.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 16:44 < th> tell me what to do and i'll try 16:44 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:44 < holyolli> hi 16:45 < armijn> th: download rock 1.5.14 (rocklinux.dyndns.org/snapshots/) and build it ;) 16:45 < esden> hi holyolli 16:45 < holyolli> hi esden 16:45 < armijn> th: and let me know if it fails ;) 16:45 < [BenHur]> moin holy 16:45 < holyolli> bennie?? 16:45 < holyolli> du hier? 16:45 < [BenHur]> jo 16:45 < holyolli> *wunder* 16:45 < tsa> holyolli: er konvertiert jetzt.. 16:45 < holyolli> hehe 16:45 < [BenHur]> ma gucken was so linux leute machen ;) 16:46 < tsa> freebsd taugt ja doch nix... 16:46 < [BenHur]> *duck* 16:46 < snyke> ... 16:46 < esden> snyke: ruhe ;-) 16:46 < snyke> ich sag doch gar nix :) 16:46 < aszlig> *lol* 16:46 < snyke> ich finds nur schade 16:46 < tsa> so...besprechung. 16:46 < aszlig> snyke: aber du wolltest was sagen :P 16:46 < esden> was warum ? 16:46 < tsa> bbl 16:46 -!- tsa is now known as tsa|afk 16:46 < snyke> anstatt gemeinsam gg. m$ zu arbeiten 16:47 < snyke> bekriegen sich die distris schon intern 16:47 < holyolli> tsa|afk: ich komm auch gleich 16:47 < holyolli> ;) 16:47 < snyke> das find ich voll nich ok 16:47 < aszlig> s/distris/derivats/ 16:47 < snyke> jeder für sein linux/unix, aber einfach sagen das das eine oder andere nix taugt das find ich unfair 16:47 -!- holyolli is now known as holy|afk 16:47 * -> esden holt sich schokolade 16:47 -!- [BenHur] is now known as ben|afk 16:47 * aszlig holt sich kaffee und jolt 16:48 < aszlig> die _letzte_ jolt! 16:48 < snyke> hm 16:48 < term_aweh> hier in hamburg hats kein jolt :/ 16:48 * snyke holt sich ne milch *fg* 16:48 < th> armijn: freeing some disk-space... 16:49 < snyke> joke 16:49 < armijn> th: fast machine? 16:49 < th> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) processor 16:50 < aszlig> goin': smoke a cig =) 16:50 < th> stepping : 2 16:50 < th> cpu MHz : 1200.054 16:50 < th> cache size : 256 KB 16:50 < th> 768MB ram 16:50 < armijn> th: ok, fast enough 16:50 < armijn> th: will still take a few hours. I'm primarily interested in what happens in "stage 2" 16:50 < armijn> if stuff fails 16:51 < th> how much diskspace do i need? 16:51 < armijn> 3 GB, is that feasible? 16:51 < th> 41G 33G 6.9G 83% /store 16:52 < th> armijn: have i to log stuff by hand? 16:53 < rxr_away> hi 16:53 -!- rxr_away is now known as rxr 16:53 < rxr> have I missed s.th. important ? 16:54 -!- surprise [kdlcjc@greencard.inder.eu.org] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:54 < armijn> th: no 16:54 < armijn> th: logs are made by the build system 16:54 < armijn> th: you will need the sources though 16:55 < armijn> rxr: do you know if it is still impossible to build ROCK on a glibc 2.1 system? 16:57 < rxr> armijn: what do you mean with still impossible ? 16:57 < armijn> I heard there where some troubles with it... 16:58 < rxr> 1.7 and dRock 1.6 (both gibc2.2) build both fine on my lgibc-2.1 system ... - and I also tried 1.5 some month back without any problem ... 16:58 < aszlig> goin' out 16:58 < aszlig> c'ya all 16:59 < armijn> hmm...I think I see where the linker options get set... 16:59 < snyke> hrm 16:59 < armijn> th: ehr, not necessary anymore :( 16:59 < armijn> th: but at least you got some more free diskspace :) 16:59 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@pD9EB7CE2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Pling timeout") 17:00 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 17:00 < armijn> why haven't the scripts never been documented? 17:00 < armijn> frustrating 17:00 < jonath[an]> hi guys 17:03 < armijn> hi 17:03 < armijn> rxr: do you know when misc/linux/autoconf.h is copied to /usr/include/linux ? 17:05 < armijn> oh, yeah, like DUH! 17:05 < armijn> I see it now 17:05 < armijn> (I think) 17:06 < armijn> cp $base/misc/linux/autoconf.h include/linux/ 17:06 < armijn> (from linux.conf) 17:06 < armijn> is that correct? 17:06 < blindcoder> hmm is therea trick to get the 1.5.14 iso bootable or am I just missing something? 17:06 < esden> re jonath[an] our monologue speaker ;-) 17:06 < esden> hi blindcoder !!! 17:07 < blindcoder> hi esden *hughug* 17:07 < armijn> I really got to get my machine online... 17:07 < esden> *rehughug* 17:07 * blindcoder runs to esden and cries: "My iso isn't booting" 17:07 < esden> hmm ... 17:07 < jonath[an]> esden: hi 17:07 < jonath[an]> esden: sure, :) 17:08 < esden> has your installdisk subdist built ? 17:08 < esden> jonath[an]: quote from ircstats: "jonath[an] 17:08 < esden> delivered 1 monologues, although nobody listened" 17:08 < blindcoder> hmm i followed the instrutions in BUILD and the only .err files i got were from some gnome-packages and rsync 17:08 < esden> hmm I hate html ... 17:09 < jonath[an]> :p 17:09 < esden> hmm blindcoder that is at least funny ... 17:09 < snyke> hi blindcoder 17:09 < armijn> gonna grab some food 17:09 < armijn> will be back later 17:09 < blindcoder> me hits esden with a very large club with nails in it 17:09 < jonath[an]> well, i am here even when you are sleeping, i used to speak alone :p 17:09 < jonath[an]> mom 17:09 < esden> blindcoder: I think I will have to see it for my self ... 17:10 * armijn afk 17:10 < blindcoder> then get down in your car and move your ass over here ;) 17:10 < rxr> armijn: yes - this is the only place I can currently find ... 17:10 < blindcoder> esden > or just tell me what to look for 17:10 < esden> blindcoder: haha ... ... 17:10 < esden> donno ... 17:11 < blindcoder> hmm... where should the install-disks reside? 17:12 < esden> urgh ... in dist subdirectory somewhere 17:12 < blindcoder> i can't find any .img (as README states) ins subdists/install-disks/intel 17:12 < rxr> blindcoder: which version of ROCK are you looking at ? 17:12 < esden> does ./scripts/Create-CD intel base 17:12 < esden> say something ? 17:12 < blindcoder> rxr> 1.5.14 17:15 < rxr> blindcoder: ok - then just follow esden's advices ;-) 17:16 < blindcoder> I just told him I would bring my box to him to install it if he can't help me out here ;) 17:19 * snyke is away (learning) 17:19 < esden> argh ... 17:20 < snyke> ähm 17:20 < snyke> täusch ich mich 17:20 < jonath[an]> hehe 17:20 < snyke> oder bin ich immo als root hier? 17:20 * -> esden will open a rocc it consulting and support firm ... 17:20 < snyke> so ein shit 17:20 < snyke> brb 17:20 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("[BX] They killed Kenny! THOSE BASTARDS!") 17:20 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:20 < snyke> re 17:21 < esden> re ... 17:21 < esden> wo warst als root ? 17:21 < snyke> sowas dummes 17:21 < snyke> irc 17:21 < esden> -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("[BX] They killed Kenny! THOSE BASTARDS!" 17:21 < snyke> also per su 17:21 < esden> wo ist da root bitte ? 17:21 < snyke> Username 17:21 < snyke> war charlie root 17:21 < esden> hmm ok ok ... 17:24 < snyke> war ja nicht ganz root 17:24 < snyke> nur ein bisschen (su) 17:25 * snyke away ( learning ) 17:30 * blindcoder kicks his debian CDs across the room 17:30 * snyke *auffang* 17:30 < snyke> ql! 17:31 < jonath[an]> i go out for a while ... 17:31 -!- jonath[an] is now known as jonath[away] 17:32 < esden> blindcoder: looool 17:32 < armijn> no wait..there *is* a problem with the linker... 17:32 < armijn> I just remembered 17:33 < armijn> I renamed the symlink to libcrypt on my Debian system and then during compiling sh-utils in stage 1 it couldn't find it... 17:33 < armijn> dammit 17:33 < esden> armijn: layer 8 problem ? 17:34 < armijn> hehe 17:34 < armijn> maybe bug in clifford? 17:34 -!- praenti_ZzZz is now known as praenti 17:34 < praenti> hi 17:34 < snyke> hi praenti 17:34 < esden> ahh praenti endlich wach 17:35 < rxr> Is SMP online? - Or has s.o. other used star before? 17:35 < praenti> armijn: lol 17:36 < praenti> esden: awake since 10 o clock. but not here... 17:36 < esden> praenti: tztztz 17:36 < esden> ;-) 17:36 < praenti> learning is also important... 17:37 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:37 < snyke> hi netcrow 17:37 < esden> rxr: he is wathing us and loughing ;-0 17:37 < netcrow> hi 17:37 < esden> hi netcrow 17:37 < blindcoder> :%s/tar.*I/tar\1j/g <-- should be right, ne? esden? 17:37 -!- tsa|afk is now known as tsa 17:37 < tsa> re 17:38 < esden> blindcoder: dunno 17:38 < armijn> esden: oh yeah, SMP is very evil 17:38 < esden> armijn: sure ;-) 17:39 < praenti> re tsa 17:40 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD95235A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:40 < esden> re tsa 17:40 < esden> hi hackbard 17:41 < hackbard> hi all 17:41 < armijn> hi hackbard 17:41 < praenti> hi hackbard 17:44 < blindcoder> ah... finally he's creating the subdists... 17:44 < esden> blindcoder: good 17:49 < blindcoder> damnit... building the disks requires devfs... 17:49 < armijn> everything requires devfs. 17:49 < jonath[away]> hehe 17:49 -!- jonath[away] is now known as jonath[an] 17:49 < blindcoder> sure, but up till now i could compile it without a mounted devfs 17:50 < armijn> blindcoder: which release? 17:50 < blindcoder> 1.5.14 17:50 < armijn> devfs does get mounted along the way :) 17:50 < esden> blindcoder: create symlinks 17:50 < armijn> eep 17:50 < armijn> symlinks evil 17:50 < esden> yes 17:50 * blindcoder is just mounting with --bind 17:51 < esden> but it is only for the compile 17:51 < armijn> --blind? 17:51 < esden> I do not know if debian works correctly when devfs is on 17:51 < netcrow> *g* 17:51 < netcrow> esden: test it ;) 17:52 < netcrow> SuSE on devfs ;) 17:52 < blindcoder> do... not... say... these... four... letters... again... 17:52 < esden> netcrow: I already have ... 17:53 < esden> I finally did it 17:53 < netcrow> just for the stats ;-) 17:53 -!- d3mian [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 17:53 < d3mian> brb 17:53 < esden> and after tweaking 2 weeks on susu I could compile rock 17:53 < armijn> now, *that* is a good thing to say when you enter IRC :) 17:53 < esden> hi d3mian 17:53 < armijn> I wanna do that to 17:53 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 17:53 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 17:53 < armijn> brb 17:54 < armijn> ah, that felt great 17:54 < esden> rofl 17:54 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has quit ("< Listen The Silence... And The Voices Around It >") 17:54 -!- d3mian is now known as jonath[an] 17:55 * blindcoder bangs his head onto the table very VERY HARD 17:55 < jonath[an]> back 17:55 < armijn> hey, watch out for the table 17:55 < jonath[an]> i was changing PC 17:55 < jonath[an]> :) 17:56 < blindcoder> i just did something very stupid... 17:56 < armijn> wow, I wish I could change that fast 17:56 < jonath[an]> blindcoder: keep that table! 17:56 < armijn> blindcoder: struck by blindness? 17:56 < esden> ahh another small fix in irclog2html.pl 17:56 < jonath[an]> blindcoder: why dont you use a iron and leave the table 17:56 < armijn> (argh...that nickname...can't...resist...making...fun) 17:56 * jonath[an] is jk 17:56 < blindcoder> no... ignorance... i started ./scripts/Buld-All COPY but the _nodel_ file was missing 17:56 < armijn> oops :)) 17:57 < praenti> i hope no kernel-oops ;-)) 17:57 < blindcoder> no... user panic ;) 17:57 < praenti> ok 17:57 < armijn> so...it deleted everything 17:57 < armijn> wow. 17:57 < esden> jonath[an]: do not mess with your nicks you are confusing me ... 17:57 -!- ben|afk is now known as [BenHur] 17:58 < esden> once d3mian then jonath[an] 17:58 < esden> that is really confusing ... 17:58 < praenti> blindcoder: do think about that. i started a compile and 8 hours later i made the same mistake... 17:58 < jonath[an]> esden: d3mian was a old nick, my real name is jonathan 17:58 < blindcoder> oh... its still there *phew*... i wasn't root... *jumps* 17:58 < esden> ok but please decide to use on nick so I know who I am talking to ... 17:59 < esden> s/on/one/ 17:59 < armijn> he just changes nics, so he won't show up in the statistics 17:59 < jonath[an]> esden: sure, dunt worry, jonath[an] will stay 17:59 < jonath[an]> esden: :) 17:59 < esden> armijn: shut up >_< *gg* 17:59 < armijn> s/nics/nicks/ 18:00 < praenti> evil armijn ;-) 18:00 < esden> hehe lool 18:01 < esden> that is good that I am not the only one that found this out @ praenti 18:01 < praenti> but its cool. 18:01 * praenti want to be as evil as armijn or SMP 18:01 < armijn> praenti: ooh, that took years of practice 18:02 < praenti> but im not... 18:02 < jonath[an]> hehe 18:02 < armijn> first of all, you got to look older than you really are :) 18:02 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("screen") 18:02 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:02 < praenti> armijn: youre right 18:03 < praenti> but now i need some food. cya in 30 minutes 18:03 < armijn> esden: where's FAKE? haven't seen him in a while 18:03 -!- praenti is now known as praenti_eat 18:03 < blindcoder> hmm is it okay if thecreation of the install-disks fails in Finish and Cleanup? 18:03 < esden> hmm he is @ work ... 18:04 -!- surprise [kdlcjc@greencard.inder.eu.org] has joined #rocklinux 18:06 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.3.20] has joined #rocklinux 18:06 < Mike1> abend 18:06 < jonath[an]> hola Miguel 18:06 < armijn> buenos dias 18:06 < esden> hi Mike1 18:06 < Mike1> hehe hola jonath[an] 18:06 < esden> buenas tardes 18:07 < Mike1> armijn: nice spanish there 18:07 < armijn> heh 18:07 < tsa> hi Mike1 18:07 < armijn> there's more where that came from 18:07 < Mike1> great 18:07 < armijn> swear words, etc. 18:08 < Mike1> armijn: i havent get to progress a whole lot with 1.5.13 tomorrow i get back to work, i read ur TODO list thanks it will help me know what i should be doing 18:09 < armijn> mike1: I made more progress 18:09 < armijn> but a few nasty problems are turning up 18:09 < armijn> *very* nasty 18:09 < Mike1> esden: nice to see you considered my proposition about making the install.bin multilanguage, remeber you can count with me to do that 18:09 < Mike1> armijn: what kind of problems 18:09 < blindcoder> esden> have you shut down your web server? 18:10 < esden> ouh ... 18:10 < esden> mom 18:10 < esden> blindcoder: now it is up 18:10 < armijn> https://www.uwyn.com/resources/gentoo_departure.html 18:10 < esden> blindcoder: have you seen the stats and log pages ? 18:11 < blindcoder> only the log so far 18:11 < esden> armijn: woooooohooooo 18:11 < esden> Geert Bevin !!!!! 18:11 < esden> cool 18:11 * -> esden reading 18:11 < Mike1> esden: also do you have some time to update my profile in the rock developers gallery 18:12 < esden> sure send me correction data in an e-mail and I will do in @ Mike1 18:12 < th> root.segfault /store/rock/rock-1.5.14 # ./scripts/Download 18:12 < th> ./scripts/Download: Permission denied. 18:12 < th> what's that? 18:13 < tsa> partition read-only mounted? 18:13 < esden> th: this is a cvs co ? 18:13 < th> no 18:13 < th> esden: no 18:13 < th> snapshot 18:13 < esden> hmm ... 18:13 < tsa> mkdir -p src/ 18:13 < Mike1> th: ? 18:13 < th> rock-src-1.5.14.tar.bz2 18:13 < blindcoder> esden> okay, i now have the install-disks.tar.bz2 file... anything more to do to not crashing a CDR again? 18:14 < th> tsa: nope 18:14 < esden> blindcoder: no I do not think so ... 18:14 < Mike1> th: ./scripts/Download -[option] 18:14 < esden> try making an iso 18:14 < esden> and booting it .. @ blindcoder 18:15 < th> root.segfault /store/rock/rock-1.5.14 # ./scripts/Download -base 18:15 < th> ./scripts/Download: Permission denied. 18:15 < th> i ran the repair.sh tool but it failed 18:16 < th> i'm really confused 18:16 < th> but it's no rock problem i suppose 18:16 < th> root.segfault /store/rock/rock-1.5.14 # cat > foo 18:16 < th> #!/bin/sh 18:16 < th> echo test 18:16 < th> root.segfault /store/rock/rock-1.5.14 # chmod 755 foo 18:16 < th> root.segfault /store/rock/rock-1.5.14 # ./foo 18:16 < blindcoder> okay... let's have another try 18:16 < th> ./foo: Permission denied. 18:17 < Mike1> th: i have never got those problems ever, you are doing it as root? 18:17 < th> yes 18:17 < th> strange 18:17 < th> i even can't run a mini-script 18:18 < Mike1> th: i dont think my problems are even similar to yours 18:18 < Mike1> seems like your problems is with bash or something like that 18:18 < blindcoder> esden> looks good, the iso is "a few" Megs larger 18:19 * Mike1 wrting mail for esden 18:19 < esden> blindcoder: that is good 18:19 < th> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1 on /store type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) 18:19 < th> mounted NOEXEC ;) 18:19 -!- holy|afk [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!") 18:19 < armijn> heheh 18:19 < th> tricky 18:19 < armijn> esden: read the story? 18:20 < esden> armijn: I am on it 18:20 < th> ./scripts/Download -base is running 18:20 < Mike1> th: hehe 18:21 < armijn> esden: interesting read... 18:22 < blindcoder> *ARGH* 18:22 < blindcoder> esden> if this continues I'm going to pick you up in a few minutes' time 18:23 < esden> ???? 18:23 < jonath[an]> blindcoder: dunt hurry up 18:23 < blindcoder> It's still not booting 18:23 < jonath[an]> well, in some PCs, my Rock discs dont boots 18:23 < blindcoder> wtf am I mssing... 18:24 < esden> don't be so unpatient .. 18:24 < jonath[an]> these are Dell Systems 18:24 * blindcoder is using a Siemend Mobile 310CS 18:24 < blindcoder> Siemens 18:25 < esden> try to boot the cd in an other box 18:25 < jonath[an]> sure 18:25 * blindcoder searches the CD in his room *search* *search* 18:26 < jonath[an]> hehe 18:26 < blindcoder> okay, brb 18:28 < armijn> esden: but FAKE hasn't posted stuff to the mailinglist for a long while as well... 18:29 < esden> yes ... I know 18:29 < esden> write him a email ... 18:29 < esden> he currently stucks in leeching >_< 18:29 < esden> and wasting his skills on it >_< 18:29 < armijn> leeching... 18:30 < esden> we have to get him back to productive stuff ;-) 18:30 < armijn> yeah 18:30 < armijn> like the MIPS port 18:30 < esden> exact 18:30 < esden> armijn: write him a email ... 18:31 < armijn> even though it is more evil than sparc64 and alpha combined :))) 18:31 < esden> I know ;-) 18:32 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD952258A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:32 < bluefire> Moin 18:32 < jonath[an]> hi bluefire 18:32 < jonath[an]> i go for eating sth, brb 18:32 < snyke> hi bluefire # 18:33 -!- jonath[an] is now known as jonath]an[ 18:33 < armijn> esden: CC you? 18:33 < esden> if you want ... 18:33 < esden> I will kick him to answer you when I see him ;-) 18:34 < armijn> who decides who's in the core team? 18:35 < esden> we ... 18:35 < Mike1> armijn: ROCK Linux core team_ 18:35 < Mike1> ? 18:36 < esden> I don't know who is in the core team 18:36 < esden> this in nowhere defined 18:36 < armijn> https://www1.rocklinux.org/sources/Documentation/TEAM 18:36 < armijn> esden: it is 18:36 < armijn> esden: see the webpage 18:36 < Mike1> esden: Documentation/TEAM 18:36 < esden> okok 18:37 < Mike1> yeah that is defined by Cliff as far as i know 18:37 < armijn> I personally think it is bullshit, but hey 18:37 < esden> hmm are you sure that this list is up to date ? 18:38 < armijn> mike1: you're in the core team...what does it do? 18:38 < Mike1> armijn: its not really impportant to be listed or not, all that matters is ur own work , but hey some names most be written 18:38 < Mike1> esden: no it is definitly not updated 18:38 < armijn> mike1: no no no no no...there is even a seperate mailinglist 18:38 < esden> hmm ok ... 18:38 < Mike1> but no one has the time or the patience to send a patch 18:38 < esden> otherwise I would redesigh the gallery 18:39 < armijn> the gallery is much nicer 18:39 < Mike1> is really nice 18:39 < armijn> pays more respect to the people who do the work :) 18:39 < esden> i do not categorize people there ... 18:39 < armijn> esden: and you shouldn't! 18:40 < Mike1> armijn: specially if your heading the list hehe 18:40 < armijn> mike1: hehe :) 18:40 < esden> I only say what they do and how do they look like 18:40 < Mike1> esden: i really think that the gallery was a great idea, and you should keep it 18:41 < esden> Mike1: thanks :-) I will keep it ... I am not going to gentoo ;-) 18:41 < Mike1> there diferent kind of people working in the project some care about having their names writen others do not 18:42 < armijn> hmm...are you implying something, mike1? 18:42 < esden> I must say I like it when my name is written somewhere ... beside the black lists 18:43 < Mike1> even thought i we have different mailing list we should sort of have different gallerys so only the people that is actually working can be recognized or something like that 18:43 < esden> It is giving me more self confidence and motivation in what I am doing 18:43 < Mike1> armijn: what does implying mean? 18:43 < armijn> esden: credits given where credits due, so to speak 18:43 < armijn> mike1: find a dictionairy :) 18:43 * Mike1 too lazy 18:44 < blindcoder> iie... it's not booting on the other machine as well 18:44 < rxr> does 1.5 need still the NFS mounts for builds, too? 18:44 < esden> https://www.leo.org 18:44 < blindcoder> I MUST have missed something... 18:44 < armijn> rxr: not necessarily 18:44 < esden> rxr: not need 18:44 < rxr> armijn: but it is still the prefered way - in contrast to the slow copy mode ? 18:45 -!- praenti_eat is now known as praenti 18:45 < Mike1> armijn: implying = implicar 18:45 < esden> rxr: you can choose between nfs mount and copy 18:45 < praenti> re 18:45 < Mike1> armijn: nah i am not implying anything 18:45 < Mike1> re praenti 18:45 < esden> but mount -bind is not implemented yet 18:45 < rxr> esden: ok - so nothing changed since ROCK-1.4 in this area? 18:45 < esden> rxr: I do not know if it will be ever implemented 18:45 < armijn> rxr: btw, I remembered that there are some problems with linking 18:45 < esden> rxr: nope ... 18:45 < rxr> esden: what will never implemented 18:46 < armijn> rxr: I built stage 1 glibc and sh-utils 18:46 < esden> lc display support ;-) 18:46 < armijn> rxr: and su needs libcrypt 18:46 < rxr> esden: ? hae? 18:46 < armijn> rxr: I removeed the symlink to libcrypt on my debian system and then rebuilt sh-utils 18:46 < armijn> and su couldn't find libcrypt anymore 18:46 < esden> *durchatm* 18:47 < rxr> in 1.7 we copy on a per package basis per default ... 18:47 < rxr> pretty cool - really easy ;-) 18:47 < armijn> really need to dig into that problem 18:47 < tsa> bbl. 18:47 < armijn> because it is eeeevil and not nice if it is actually true what I think that happens... 18:47 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:48 < armijn> should keep me happy for another weekend :(( 18:48 < esden> rxr: I have already told you about that some time ago ... this is the feature that you can display your compile information on a matrix character lcd display ... connected to your parallel or serial port 18:48 < armijn> oh yeah, that is a feature that should be standard! 18:49 < esden> haha armijn 18:49 < armijn> you will need an LCD display to build ROCK, as much as you need DevFS 18:49 < esden> it is a gimmic ... 18:49 < armijn> why not make it a subdistro :) 18:49 < esden> but i like it ... 18:49 < esden> you do not have to make fun of me all the time :-( 18:49 < armijn> aww, why not? I enjoy it so much... 18:50 < armijn> remember I'm evil. 18:50 < Mike1> There will be a 4 day event by august here and i was thinking about having a ROCK Linux Stand, is anyone interested in coming over to COsta Rica by that time to have a vacation and give me a hand? 18:50 < armijn> what event? 18:50 < esden> armijn: yess that is sure that you are evil .... 18:50 < jonath]an[> Mike1: what? 18:51 < rxr> esden: We shold not integrate it into the core scripts, but provide hooks, that are called per packge and error notifiing about the progress ;-) 18:51 -!- jonath]an[ is now known as jonath[an] 18:51 < Mike1> its a whole computing thing named CompuExpo 18:51 < esden> rxr: I know ... 18:51 < esden> rxr: in 1.5 it will be hardcoded 18:51 < esden> in 1.7 it will be made using hooks 18:51 < jonath[an]> ahh 18:51 < Mike1> it has been growinf and getting better with the time so i think it would be cool to have a stand with some sparcs and pcs over there 18:52 < esden> I spoke about it with clifford 18:52 < rxr> Mike1: Sounds cool - but time and money :-( ... 18:52 < Mike1> rxr: :( 18:52 < praenti> armijn: why did geert leave rock then? 18:52 < armijn> praenti: because he liked GenToo better 18:52 < jonath[an]> gentoo again 18:52 < Mike1> jonath[an]: how about you? 18:53 < jonath[an]> Mike1: i think go there 18:53 < praenti> ok. but gentoo is dominated by one person. rock is dominated by the developer-community 18:53 < Mike1> good 18:53 < Mike1> armijn: ? 18:53 < jonath[an]> Mike1: can i go with u? 18:53 < rxr> praenti: really! Only one core person? Have you a link? 18:53 < praenti> i think that is more important than i like a concept, that is ruled by one person 18:53 < jonath[an]> Mike1: willbe cool expose Rock 18:54 < praenti> rxr: ok. perhaps not only by one person. have read geerts statement? 18:54 < rxr> praenti: not fully - was boring ... 18:54 < jonath[an]> ? 18:55 < armijn> mike1: ehr? wassup? 18:55 < Mike1> jonath[an]: yeah you can come with me 18:55 < Mike1> armijn: will you join us? 18:55 < praenti> rxr: last passage is interesting! 18:55 < rxr> praenti: ok - I'll read it in an hour ... 18:55 < Mike1> what makes gentoo interesting at all? 18:55 * rxr shopping 18:55 < armijn> afk, brb 18:55 -!- rxr is now known as rxr-away 18:56 < praenti> Mike1: ask esden. he spend some time to think about that and how we can be better ;-) 18:58 < Mike1> personal opinion there is no distro like rock linux, one of the best thing is that we can decide things and have a lot of control, together we can make awesome improvements that a single person would never do 18:58 < Mike1> its nice to be heard and be able to do great stuff for this kind of projects, i don't think i will ever go away from rock 18:59 < esden> Mike1: my speach 18:59 < Mike1> esden: what you think 19:00 < esden> that is one of the beautiful things at rock .. the control ... 19:00 < esden> I will also sever leave cuz I know you guys 19:00 < esden> perhups I will go if you piss me of 19:01 < esden> but I hope that we are civilized enough so that something that will piss of my person will net happen 19:01 < Mike1> esden: what kind of thing would piss you off? 19:02 < esden> dunno ... blocking inovation 19:02 < esden> blocking ideas ... 19:02 < esden> attacking someone directly 19:02 < esden> flamewars about stupid childish stuff 19:02 < esden> aso 19:02 < esden> . 19:02 < Mike1> its very unusual to have this kind of problems so i think its ok 19:03 * Mike1 away 19:03 -!- [BenHur] [~benhur@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("</online>") 19:11 < armijn> esden: like flamewars about your LCD thing? 19:11 * armijn runs 19:13 < praenti> ?? 19:14 < armijn> praenti: you know about esden's LCD thing? 19:14 < esden> armijn: loool ... 19:14 < armijn> hmm...shall I go to CCC this year? 19:14 < praenti> armijn: i know what he want to do and what he has done to now. but i dont know the rest 19:14 < esden> armijn: I will implement it send a patch to clifford 19:15 < esden> thara will be no discussion ;-) 19:15 < praenti> esden: dvorak problem? 19:15 < jonath[an]> I would like to invite all people to chat with us about 19:15 < jonath[an]> rock there ;-) Yes you too Clifford :D 19:15 < netcrow> the lsd-patch ;) 19:15 < jonath[an]> why does Cliff never is here 19:15 < armijn> no, not lsd 19:15 < jonath[an]> ? 19:16 < armijn> jonath[an]: because Clifford is usually in hospital, because he broke yet another bodypart 19:16 < esden> praenti: yepp .... 19:16 < jonath[an]> armijn: sure, i know about the horse 19:16 < jonath[an]> but, he never is here 19:17 < jonath[an]> i think that if he 'll be here, things will be faster 19:17 < jonath[an]> well, i guess, really, i dunno about Cliff availability 19:18 < armijn> clifford and available? 19:18 < armijn> haha 19:18 < praenti> hehe 19:18 < armijn> even when he's supposed to be available he isn't :) 19:21 < jonath[an]> umm 19:21 < jonath[an]> ic 19:22 < armijn> whoohoo! Bill Cheswick will do the keynote on SANE! 19:23 < esden> yes cliff is avalable if you call him 19:24 < praenti> esden: but only then ;-) 19:24 < armijn> he's an independent insultant right? 19:24 < jonath[an]> hehe 19:25 < praenti> btw. who of us is really available at all? 19:25 < armijn> one of those guys who you hire if you don't like your sysadmin 19:25 < th> what do you mean by "available"? ;) 19:25 < armijn> to give your sysadmin a hard time 19:25 < armijn> th: I hope nothing in the physical sense... 19:26 < praenti> th: think irony 19:26 < armijn> esden: watch out, I'm going for the number one position :) 19:26 < blindcoder> vim bui 19:26 < armijn> in the stats 19:26 < blindcoder> damn... 19:26 < praenti> then you know the definition 19:26 < esden> armijn: in the stats ?? 19:26 < armijn> esden: irc stats 19:26 < esden> and is that a prablem ? 19:27 < armijn> esden: maybe for you, but for me it isn't a problem 19:27 < esden> I am currentle talking with blindcoder ... he is having BIG problems creating install-disks so that his cd boots 19:27 < esden> armijn: nat for me 19:27 < blindcoder> there sems to be a general prlbem... a parameter to rename is missing... 19:28 < armijn> esden: k, btw, script doesn't seem to update...I think 19:28 < esden> which script ??? 19:28 < armijn> esden: the irc stats script 19:29 < esden> it is updating 19:29 < esden> every 15 minutes 19:29 < armijn> 15 minutes? 19:29 < esden> yepp 19:29 < armijn> k 19:30 < jonath[an]> esden: what is the irc stats script? 19:30 < jonath[an]> i dunno 19:31 < esden> jonath[an]: https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/ircstats/ 19:31 < jonath[an]> ok 19:31 < armijn> heh, it has updated 19:31 < armijn> guess I was just too fast everytime 19:33 < jonath[an]> kool stats 19:33 < jonath[an]> :) 19:37 < esden> jonath[an]: I have posted this url to the mailinglist ... nobody is reading my mail :-(( *cry* 19:40 < blindcoder> Size of boot image is 5760 sectors -> Emulating a 2.88 meg floppy 19:40 < blindcoder> finally it looks like it MIGHT work 19:40 < esden> it will work 19:40 < th> 5760 for 2.88MB? 19:40 < esden> now it is correct 19:40 < th> cool 19:40 < esden> th: that is ok 19:41 < esden> i think ... ;-) 19:41 < blindcoder> esden if it doesn'tthen you owe me a CD-r ;) 19:41 < th> ; 19:41 < th> > 19:41 < esden> blindcoder: >_< 19:41 < jonath[an]> hehe 19:42 < blindcoder> esden> what about tomorrow? shall I pick you up or do you use your bike? 19:42 < praenti> can i see this line in the stats? 19:42 < jonath[an]> excuse me, what is Runner-up? 19:42 < esden> blindcoder: hmm ... I take my bike ... 19:42 < armijn> praenti: no. 19:42 < armijn> jonath[an]: no dictionairies in costa rica? 19:43 < praenti> i see 19:43 < jonath[an]> armijn: no with tww words joined 19:43 < jonath[an]> tww/two 19:43 < jonath[an]> :) 19:43 < armijn> runner up: number two 19:43 < blindcoder> jonath[an]> runner-up means the one who gets close to another (I thinkÜ) 19:43 < armijn> in a competition 19:44 < jonath[an]> umm, ok 19:44 -!- hackbard is now known as hack^afk 19:44 < jonath[an]> thnx 19:44 < hack^afk> later 19:44 < jonath[an]> bye Frank 19:45 < praenti> esden: how are the big numbers generated? 19:45 < jonath[an]> hehe 19:45 < jonath[an]> these stats are really cool esden 19:46 < esden> armijn: lool your mail to fake is really good ;-) 19:46 < blindcoder> how are the quotes taken? 19:46 < th> blindcoder: random 19:47 < blindcoder> i see... I was afraid of having that "I just did something very stupid" forever ;) 19:47 < esden> praenti: read the code of gruftistats and you will know ;-) 19:47 < esden> this is not my work 19:47 < blindcoder> YEAH!!!!! IT'S BOOOOOOOOTING!!!! 19:47 < praenti> armijn: what mail? i want to read ist 19:47 < esden> blindcoder: puhh finally *starb* 19:48 < jonath[an]> thats really cool blindcoder 19:48 < esden> *die* 19:48 < jonath[an]> xDDD 19:48 < blindcoder> esden> you may keep me your CD-R ;) 19:48 < esden> i thought that it will never happen 19:48 < armijn> praenti: no, you're not evil enoguh. 19:49 < esden> blindcoder: forget it ... 19:49 < armijn> oh, can I have it then? 19:49 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("Read error: 3.1415926535 (Excessive pi)") 19:50 < esden> armijn: I take all my stuff to my grave ... like a pharao 19:51 < esden> armijn: so forget it ;-) 19:51 < blindcoder> i guess now is a good time to read Documentation/INSTALL ;) 19:51 < esden> muahaha .. yess ... 19:51 < praenti> esden: i dont see. the linegeneration 19:51 < jonath[an]> hehehe 19:52 < esden> praenti: me neither ... i do not have the code handy 19:52 < praenti> axo 19:54 < snyke> *bim* 19:54 < jonath[an]> Mike1: still you there? 19:55 < jonath[an]> umm, maybe this night i install rock.1.5.13 19:55 < esden> quote rxr mail :b) a kernel module for really hard-core, speed, ... freaks ;-) 19:55 < esden> I want it I want it !!!! 19:56 < jonath[an]> sure, ill install rock tonight 19:56 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@pD9EB6BA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:56 < netcrow> re 19:56 < esden> re netcrow 19:57 < netcrow> back with xchat 19:57 < esden> baehhhh 19:57 < netcrow> hehe 19:58 < praenti> netti: if you want x that use gtkbitchx 19:58 < praenti> and not xchat :-( 19:58 < esden> or irssi gtk frontend ... 19:59 < esden> praenti: read this : https://www.uwyn.com/resources/gentoo_departure.html 19:59 < praenti> had read it an hour ago 20:00 < esden> ohh ups ... sorry ... :-( 20:05 < blindcoder> okay, the installation is running 20:05 < jonath[an]> blindcoder: what rock are you installing? 20:06 < blindcoder> 1.5.14 on my laptop 20:06 < jonath[an]> ok 20:07 < jonath[an]> where can i get a 1.5.14 iso? 20:07 < jonath[an]> a good site in ftp and near to America 20:07 < jonath[an]> ? 20:07 < Mike1> jonath[an]: build it ! :P 20:07 < blindcoder> i didn't want to say it... 20:07 < esden> exact 20:07 < Mike1> my server :D 20:07 * Mike1 back 20:07 < jonath[an]> Mike1: you know i dont have resources to do it 20:08 < esden> so create the resources 20:08 < Mike1> if i get the time i will make one for you 20:08 < esden> or buy ... theft ... borrow 20:08 < jonath[an]> when i say resources, i mean Hard Disk, free space, a good processor and a high memor 20:08 < jonath[an]> y 20:09 < Mike1> or ask esden for help :) 20:09 < esden> whish for xmas 20:09 < jonath[an]> Mike1: kool 20:09 -!- rxr-away is now known as rxr 20:09 < Mike1> re rxr 20:09 < jonath[an]> esden: da you want me ask for ur help? 20:09 < jonath[an]> xDD 20:09 < rxr> esden: in what content did you try to quote me from a mail I used send out ? 20:09 < esden> jonath[an]: not really ;-) 20:09 < blindcoder> esden > you wanted to know the compile-time: it was 13 hours 20:10 < esden> blindcoder: mine was exact the same 20:10 < Mike1> blindcoder: can i have an iso of ur build? 20:10 < blindcoder> sure 20:10 < esden> rxr: i found it funny 20:10 < jonath[an]> esden: jk 20:10 < Mike1> blindcoder: url? 20:10 < Mike1> jonath[an]: i will give you an iso ok? 20:11 < jonath[an]> Mike1: when can we meet us? 20:11 < jonath[an]> Mike1: Compuexpo? 20:11 < Mike1> friday 20:11 < jonath[an]> Mike1: or before? 20:11 < rxr> esden: Ah! I just saw no relation with the messages arround the quote ... 20:11 < jonath[an]> Mike1: sure, it is ok for me 20:11 < Mike1> jonath[an]: before 20:11 < esden> rxr: there was none ;-) 20:11 < jonath[an]> Mike1: where? 20:11 < jonath[an]> Mike1: costarica.net? 20:12 < Mike1> is there a create-cd script for 1.7? or anyone doing it by now? esden? 20:12 < jonath[an]> Mike1: btw, what about the new job? 20:12 < Mike1> jonath[an]: yes at my new office 20:12 -!- wschlich_ [~wschlich@pD9E3E599.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:12 < armijn> maybe clifford wants to go to costa rica 20:13 < Mike1> if hes not in the hospital 20:13 < jonath[an]> well, you have to show me where it is located 20:13 < rxr> Mike1: No there isn't. We first need the install-disk target (Esden?). But I'll start a rescue target tonight ;-) 20:13 < Mike1> rxr excellent 20:14 < Mike1> hi wschlich 20:14 < rxr> esden: Cliff said you'll to the new install-disk - is this still actual? 20:15 < jonath[an]> brb 20:21 < netcrow> hmm..my digitalcamera crashes.. 20:26 < esden> rxr: I am working on it like crazy 20:27 < armijn> ah, that explains a lot 20:28 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@pD9E3E67A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:28 < esden> armijn: ??? 20:28 < armijn> well...esden, crazy... 20:28 < armijn> all of a sudden everything comes together 20:28 < blindcoder> armijn > tel us somethig new ;) 20:28 < armijn> and it makes sense 20:28 < esden> I am crazy ... i know ... 20:28 < armijn> esden: no, you're not... 20:29 < armijn> you're not doing MIPS :) 20:29 < armijn> or sparc :) 20:29 < esden> okok ... 20:29 < armijn> hehehehee 20:29 < jonath[an]> all of you are crazy 20:29 < jonath[an]> so, i go now 20:29 < jonath[an]> cya 20:29 < esden> cu jonath[an] 20:29 < esden> lol 20:29 < jonath[an]> hehe 20:29 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has quit ("< Listen The Silence... And The Voices Around It >") 20:32 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 20:32 < jonath[an]> wowwww 20:32 < jonath[an]> i dunt have classes! 20:32 < armijn> back so soon? 20:32 < jonath[an]> :) 20:32 < Mike1> wb jonath[an] 20:32 < esden> jonath[an]: ??? 20:32 < armijn> he doesn't have C++ classes... 20:32 < jonath[an]> xD 20:32 < Mike1> esden: i just sent you a mail with that update i told you about 20:32 < armijn> or Java classes 20:33 < jonath[an]> :( 20:33 < jonath[an]> Java 20:33 < armijn> but that's not a problem, you can make them yourself 20:33 < jonath[an]> :( 20:33 < esden> Mike1: thanks 20:33 < jonath[an]> but im learning C by myself 20:33 < Mike1> jonath[an]: what do you like the most, Java, C or C++? 20:33 < Mike1> esden: bitte 20:33 < jonath[an]> i dunno C++ 20:33 < jonath[an]> i prefer C 20:34 < jonath[an]> can you imaginate a spreadsheet made with Java> 20:34 < jonath[an]> ? 20:34 < armijn> yeah 20:34 < Mike1> yes 20:34 < armijn> definitely 20:34 < jonath[an]> (imaginate/imagine?) 20:34 < jonath[an]> really? 20:34 * Mike1 imagining.... 20:35 < jonath[an]> im doing one right now 20:35 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@pD9EB6BA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*argh*") 20:35 < armijn> what do you think MS-Office is written in? 20:35 < armijn> MS-Office is all C++, with COM 20:35 < armijn> and they will add C# things later on 20:35 < esden> Mike1: updated 20:35 < Mike1> esden danke 20:35 < jonath[an]> i have a lot of time without use MSOffice 20:35 < esden> Mike1: bitte ;-) 20:36 < Mike1> jonath[an]: you don't use MS Weird ... i mean word 20:36 < jonath[an]> hehe 20:36 < jonath[an]> well, nop 20:36 < jonath[an]> i used soffice 20:36 < jonath[an]> but i prefer Abiword 20:37 < jonath[an]> and i print them with samba 20:37 < jonath[an]> hier, auf die University 20:37 < armijn> jaja, genau 20:37 < Mike1> jonath[an]: what do ytou prefer lpd or CUPS? 20:37 < armijn> Bier! Bier! Bier! 20:38 < jonath[an]> i havent used CUPS 20:38 < Mike1> Beer Beer Beer! 20:38 * -> esden wants beer 20:38 < Mike1> oops wrong expression :D 20:38 * Mike1 same here 20:38 < jonath[an]> i prefer a bavaria beer 20:39 * Mike1 drinks ROCK 20:39 < esden> 28 different nicks till now ... 20:39 < praenti> esden: i have beer 20:39 < Mike1> there is a beer named rock ice in CR 20:39 < armijn> oh god 20:39 < esden> praenti: what we can do now ? 20:39 < Mike1> praenti: lucky guy 20:39 < armijn> that's american crap... 20:40 < armijn> mike1: sorry to say, but they can't brew beer in america...*all* of america 20:40 < Mike1> armijn: i will get the chance to try German beer by 19c3 20:40 < armijn> north, middle and south 20:40 < armijn> german beer is overrated as well 20:40 < esden> you can came take me we drink a beer and you bring me home ... ;-) 20:40 < Mike1> armijn: yeah i know 20:41 < jonath[an]> sure, ive listened the richness of the beer in deutschland 20:41 < praenti> esden: i thought i come to you bring two bottles gutmann with me 20:41 < esden> also a good idea ... 20:41 < Mike1> armijn: what linux distro are you using to build rock for sparc64? 20:41 < esden> so do it like this ... 20:41 < esden> ;-) @ praenti 20:42 < armijn> mike1: debian 20:42 < blindcoder> praenti > come and fetch me b4 going to esden ;) 20:42 * Mike1 using Splack 20:42 < esden> ahh good blindcoder is coming too ;-) 20:42 < praenti> blindcoder: ok. i'll take 3 bottles with me 20:42 < Mike1> seems like there will be a party 20:43 -!- praenti is now known as praenti_onwaytoe 20:43 < jonath[an]> Mike1: splack, do you mean slackware volador? 20:43 -!- praenti_onwaytoe is now known as praenti_to_esden 20:44 < praenti_to_esden> one thing. i need 5 minutes waiting for an ending auction 20:44 < praenti_to_esden> at ebay 20:44 < Mike1> jonath[an]: sort of, Splack is the a project leaded by Alvaro Figueroa based on the unmaintaned Slackware port for sparc 20:44 < jonath[an]> Mike1: umm, Figueroa is a student in the ULatina? 20:45 < jonath[an]> ive seen bim before in GULCR 20:45 < esden> praenti_to_esden: take glass with you !!!!! 20:45 < jonath[an]> bim/him 20:45 < praenti_to_esden> ok 20:45 < Mike1> yeah he works in the Servers area hes the bossman of the admins 20:46 < jonath[an]> i can see clearly now 20:46 < jonath[an]> i undertand 20:46 < Mike1> ok 20:47 < jonath[an]> Mike1: where can i contact you for the rock iso? 20:47 < jonath[an]> Mike1: i dunno where is placed costarica.net 20:47 < Mike1> today is my last day in Vadenu so if you need/want to call me you can contact me at 283-7302 20:47 < Mike1> or at my home 441-4405 20:48 < armijn> ah, now we've got mike1s phonenumber in the logs! 20:48 < Mike1> i will give you my new office phone as soon as i know it 20:48 < Mike1> armijn: sure 20:48 < jonath[an]> ok Mike1 20:48 < armijn> mike1: on the www 20:48 < inode> finish compiling 6rh51min 20:48 < inode> now what? 20:48 < Mike1> armijn: it doesn't really matter to me 20:49 < blindcoder> so... now's the big moment... the first boot of my first rocklinu installation ;) 20:49 < jonath[an]> will are you connected these days in irc Miguel? 20:50 < jonath[an]> for contacting you 20:50 < esden> puhh now I shouldn't stink so terribly ;-) 20:50 < armijn> esden: excuse me? 20:51 < esden> armijn: forget it :D 20:51 < armijn> esden: is it because praenti is coming and he smells worse than you? 20:51 < Mike1> jonath[an]: i don't think so i will be really busy dealing with the mess at the new office, and building on a Ultra 5, but feel free to email me 20:51 < armijn> so, relatively you smell less? 20:51 * armijn cranks up Annihilator 20:51 < jonath[an]> ok Mike1 20:52 < Mike1> is this a smellers contest ? lol 20:52 < inode> after build-all copy what do i do??? take and burn it? 20:52 < jonath[an]> i have to parse sth 20:52 < esden> errmmm armijn waht is the name of the stuff you are smoking ... and where do you get it ? 20:52 -!- jonath[an] is now known as jonath[away] 20:52 < armijn> esden: well...actually...I'm not smoking anything 20:53 < armijn> not allowed inside the university 20:53 < armijn> esden: but I've got some special stuff at home, that makes you completely mad... 20:53 < esden> armijn: hmm ... but you sound like someone smoking really havy stuff ;-) 20:53 < armijn> can't bring it if I go to CCC, because it's a bit too heavy... 20:53 < inode> i want summmm 20:53 < armijn> oh yeah, it's really heavy... 20:54 < armijn> it's called "Ultra 1" 20:54 < esden> armijn: hmm ... good take it ... 20:54 < armijn> really special :) 20:54 < praenti_to_esden> ok. im away 20:54 * -> esden waiting for praenti blindcoder and beer ;-) 20:54 < armijn> when I get home I will take some I think... 20:54 < armijn> sometimes it keeps me awake all night! 20:55 < esden> armijn: because of the alpha port ? 20:55 < armijn> no no 20:55 < armijn> because of "Ultra 1" 20:55 < armijn> the stuff is so heavy 20:55 < armijn> ripclaw sells even heavier stuff... 20:55 < armijn> called "Ultra 5" 20:55 < esden> yeye ... loool 20:55 < Mike1> armijn: why did you quit building with Mandrake? 20:55 < armijn> mike1: because it was a pain in the ass and I had to upgrade every package 20:55 < armijn> mike1: including compilers, and all the tools 20:55 < armijn> *everything* 20:56 * Mike1 uses Blade 100 20:56 < Mike1> armijn: i can imagine 20:56 < armijn> when I get it working on Debian I want to reinstall Mandrake and see if I can build it on that 20:56 < esden> armijn: you are talking definitly very much ... more than I ... that is not sane 20:56 < armijn> just for the losers who tried MAndrake in the first place 20:56 < armijn> esden: yeah, I know 20:57 < esden> armijn: the amount I talk is much but you are breaking all barriers ;-) 20:57 < armijn> but guess what? It's time to go home! 20:57 < Mike1> armijn: when i get to finish with splack i will probably build with suse for the old times 20:57 < armijn> mike1: oooh, masochist :) 20:57 < esden> Mike1: yak 20:57 < esden> buehhh 20:58 < armijn> esden: you should give people a nice upgradepath frm SuSE to ROCK 20:58 < esden> armijn is right ... mothing less than masochist 20:58 < esden> armijn: lool 20:58 * armijn YAST2's esden 20:58 < Mike1> well sometimes people say i'm kind of crazy 20:58 < esden> armijn: I will port rock te SuSE 20:59 < jonath[away]> ur not crazy Mike1, you use Rock! 20:59 < armijn> ah well, going back to my Ultra now... 20:59 < armijn> cu! 20:59 < Mike1> yeah maybe ur right i'm not crazy just a little bit ROCKed 20:59 < jonath[away]> sure 20:59 < Mike1> armijn: enjoy it :D 20:59 < jonath[away]> away 20:59 < esden> hmm I needed two weeks to make rock 1.3.11 compile on suse 6.3 or what it was 21:00 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 21:00 < Mike1> esden: i tryed to build 1.7 with suse 7.2 everything got fucked up since the beggining 21:00 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B3DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:01 < Mike1> i had to update curl, install development tools 21:01 < tsa> hi again 21:01 < Mike1> re tsa 21:01 < esden> re tsa 21:01 < esden> Mike1: sure ... 21:01 < Mike1> esden: it was one of those experiences in life that you can never forget 21:02 < esden> yes ... you see ... it is already 2 years ago when I tried to compile rock on suse .. and i did not forget it ... 21:03 < Mike1> hehe yeah tell me about it 21:04 < inode> rock has been around for at least 2 years? wow i thought it was relitivly new 21:04 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: Do something for your health use ROCK Linux 21:04 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Fri Apr 12 17:31:20 2002] 21:04 < Mike1> inode: actually its been around for about 3 or 4 years that i know 21:05 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Do something for your health use ROCK Linux (https://www.rocklinux.org) 21:05 < inode> i guess only a few hundred ppl use rock 21:06 < esden> inode: the first lines of code of rocklinux were written around 1996 1997 ... 21:07 < rxr> esden: do you have ripclaws Tel.Nr.? 21:07 < esden> rxr: yepp ... you mean home ? 21:07 < esden> his cellphone is broken 21:07 < rxr> A number where he might be reachable now ;-) 21:07 < rxr> (whereever this is ...) 21:07 < esden> ok ... 21:08 * tsa wants a Naturetech sparcbook. 21:08 < tsa> *sigh* 21:08 < tsa> I need a sponsor. 21:08 < rxr> tsa: me too ;-) 21:09 < esden> tsa: me too 21:09 < tsa> they are pretty cool, but you could get 2 high-end sony vaio's for the same money or even less... 21:16 < esden> only the processor counts ;-) 21:16 < esden> not the money ;-) 21:16 < inode> brb 21:16 -!- inode [~inode@cs666986-234.satx.rr.com] has quit ("BitchX-1.0c17 -- just do it.") 21:17 < esden> jonath]an[ seemed uncertain - 100% of lines were questions 21:17 < esden> hehe 21:17 < jonath[away]> umm? 21:17 < jonath[away]> im not too away 21:18 < esden> so look in the stats ;-) 21:18 < rxr> esden: which stats? 21:19 < esden> rxr: ircstats ... 21:19 < esden> the stuff you look at if you are bored ... ;-) 21:20 -!- inode [~inode@cs666986-234.satx.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:21 < esden> re inode 21:21 < esden> inode: can I ask you something ? 21:21 < inode> sure 21:22 < inode> i dont know if i can provide an answer but go for it 21:22 < esden> what brought you to us .. and what made you compile and try rock ? 21:22 < inode> oh an easy question..... 21:22 < esden> yess 21:25 < rxr> esden: the irc-stats are also nice! 21:25 < esden> huh ... you have not seen them ? 21:25 < esden> till now ? 21:26 < rxr> yes 21:26 < inode> ive been a linux user sence about 94 and am msce and rhce trained; ive been looking in lfs for a while but i didnt want to go in that direction. so i was looking for a small distro to build a server, i found so i took the jump. plus i like the idea that it could be used to build a mini-distro that i can give to friends and family. 21:27 < esden> ohh ... and I sent an email to the mailinglist ... now I see only very few peaple read my email :-(((( @ rxr 21:28 < esden> inode: I am happy that you found what yo were searching for in rocklinux 21:28 < esden> inode: I hope you will have fun with it ... and not much trouble 21:29 < inode> oh by the way i dont use my mcse skill now i refuse to. i only use linux, unless i want to play a game then i use windoze 21:29 < rxr> esden: sorry - I only read over it, since I knew the logs already - but so I missed the stats - sorry ... 21:29 * Mike1 read it :) 21:30 < inode> esden i have fun with linux even when there are problems... you know there are no problems just opertunity.. 21:30 < th> https://www.liquidcode.org/worm.html that's great ;) 21:33 < inode> i just got back into school and im going for a csbs and if i really like rock i'll become a big contributor 21:35 < esden> rxr: np ... I thought that it was so ;-) ... I am currently waiting for more comments about my idea list ... and submissions 21:41 * Mike1 leaving 21:41 < Mike1> see you later folks 21:41 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.3.20] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 21:45 < inode> brb 21:45 -!- inode [~inode@cs666986-234.satx.rr.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:49 -!- jonath[away] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has quit ("< Listen The Silence... And The Voices Around It >") 21:50 -!- inode [~inode@cs666986-234.satx.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:50 < inode> ./scripts/Create-CD k6 | arch doesnt seam to be working 21:55 < inode> help plez 21:58 < rxr> inode: mom 21:58 < inode> :) 22:00 < rxr> extra for you I deflated a 1.5 source-tree, and took a look into the script (vi Create-CD) 22:00 < rxr> the script wants a extra parameter base or ext 22:00 < rxr> so you should use k6 base ... 22:00 < inode> ahh 22:00 < inode> thnx 22:00 < rxr> "./scripts/Create-CD k6 base" for you 22:01 * rxr rm -rf rock-src-1.5.13_2002-03-28_00h44 22:01 < rxr> inode: odes this work? 22:02 < rxr> (not the rm -rf the Create-CD ;-) 22:02 < inode> i dont have rock-src 22:02 < inode> but do have rock-intel-1.5.14 22:02 < rxr> inode: does the Create-CD script work? 22:02 < rxr> esden 22:02 < rxr> ? 22:02 < inode> no it just spits out i686 22:03 -!- term_aweh [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has quit ("gn8") 22:03 < rxr> inode you finished the compilation? 22:03 < inode> yup 22:04 < rxr> you have a rock-k6-1.5.14-DEV (or similar directory) ? 22:05 < inode> where? in ./rock-orig ? 22:05 < rxr> no in rock-linux 22:05 < rxr> You are running the Create-CD script in rock-linux (where you also build the whole beast?) 22:06 < inode> this is all thats in there 22:06 < inode> arch-conf base-config Documentation ext-config opt-archive scripts 22:06 < inode> base-archive COPYING ext-archive misc README subdists 22:07 < inode> and thier links 22:07 < rxr> in rock-linux - where you run the Build-All ? 22:07 < inode> in rock-orig is where i ran the script from 22:07 < rxr> ah 22:08 < inode> should have i ran it from rock-linux ?/ 22:08 < rxr> You used the copy mode, right? 22:08 < inode> yes 22:08 < rxr> ok - then rock-orig might be ok (do you have a rock-linux dir?) 22:09 < inode> yes ./rock-orig/../rock-linux 22:10 < rxr> aha - is there a rock-k6-1.5.14 directory in rock-linux? 22:10 < inode> no you asked that already 22:11 < rxr> ok is it in rock-orig? 22:11 < huebi> re Moep hi! 22:11 < inode> huebi yo 22:11 < rxr> HI huebi! 22:11 < huebi> The Sun Ultra 5 did arive ;))) 22:11 < inode> no just rock-intel-1.5.14 22:11 < rxr> wow! 22:12 < tsa> huebi: specs? 22:12 < tsa> usparc IIi, 256mb? 22:12 < rxr> inode: did you selected a specific optimization in scripts/Config ? 22:12 -!- hack^afk is now known as hackbard 22:12 < inode> yes k6 22:12 < rxr> hm 22:12 < rxr> strange 22:12 < hackbard> re 22:13 < rxr> coud you run the Create-CD scrpit with "intel base" in this dir 22:13 < rxr> ? 22:13 < huebi> 270 MHz UltraSparc-IIi 22:13 < huebi> 128MB 22:13 < huebi> 4GB 22:13 < tsa> ide disk? 22:13 < inode> something new this time 22:13 < huebi> jo 22:13 < tsa> hm... 22:14 < tsa> symbios scsi controller reinbauen. 22:14 < tsa> die ide-platte in meiner u10 suckt ohne ende.. 22:14 < inode> ./scripts/Create-CD: line 42: 1758 Broken pipe 22:14 < huebi> tsa: Jo, it's still in the U30 22:14 < rxr> huebi: dou you know if there are U5's left? Ripclaw has not yet answered to my mails - and his telephon is very busy ... 22:14 < huebi> rxr: Call him NOW! 22:14 < rxr> huebi: Could you help inode to ISOfy his build? 22:15 < rxr> huebi: I do!!!! 22:15 < rxr> (for an hour) 22:15 < rxr> huebi: have you a better tel nr? 22:15 < huebi> rxr <- of to phone call ;)) 22:15 < rxr> I have it in my hand!!! and pushed the redial the 40th time!!! 22:16 < tsa> ...and the number still doesn't exist? *g* 22:16 < rxr> tsa: ha ha 22:18 < huebi> rxr: What's the problem? 22:18 < huebi> inode: cd /rock-linux 22:19 < huebi> inode: ./scripts/Create-CD intel base 22:19 < inode> hold on a sec there are a few things i want to trry 22:21 < th> huebi: that's all 22:21 < th> ? 22:22 < inode> bingo 22:23 < huebi> th: Normaly I try to get all sources from their original first place. If I can't get it there I search by Hand but don't change the URL till I know where the new primary server is. 22:23 < huebi> th: Yes for an ISO that's all 22:23 < inode> Warning: creating filesystem that does not conform to ISO-9660. 22:23 < th> huebi: no nfs mounts 22:23 < th> ? 22:24 < huebi> inode: ignore it. It is for M$ compatibility ;> 22:24 < inode> it says its 4.5M 22:24 < inode> thats way too small 22:25 < inode> grrrrr 22:25 < huebi> inode: Yes 22:25 < tsa> i guess that's the smallest rock ever built.. 22:25 < huebi> inode: What did YOU do? 22:26 < tsa> i've never made it below 23mb (rock read-only, shrunk down as a firewall) 22:26 < inode> ummm i dont know..?!?... ok rebuild this time from rock-linux 22:27 < huebi> inode: STop! 22:27 < inode> it sould be ready in 7hrs 22:27 < inode> ok 22:27 < huebi> inode: rm -rf rock-intel-1.5.14 22:27 -!- Mike1 [mike@196.40.3.20] has joined #rocklinux 22:27 < Mike1> re 22:27 < huebi> inode: touch _nodel_ 22:27 < huebi> rm -f build.out 22:27 < inode> im with ya 22:28 < huebi> inode: ./scripts/Build-All COPY 22:28 < huebi> inode: Now all files will be copied again 22:28 < inode> from rock-linux not -orig correct? 22:29 < huebi> inode: Yes allways from /rock-linux 22:29 -!- Mike1 [mike@196.40.3.20] has quit (Client Quit) 22:29 < inode> ok 22:30 < huebi> inode: cd /rock-linux 22:30 < huebi> find . -name "*err" - What do you get? 22:31 < inode> umm on the first build there were no .err files 22:31 < inode> its rebuilding i dont know why but it is 22:31 < huebi> find . -name "*err" - What do you get? 22:32 < huebi> are there any .err files? 22:33 < inode> yes 22:33 < inode> ./dist/var/adm/logs/1-linux.err 22:33 < inode> ./dist/var/adm/logs/1-glibc.err 22:33 < inode> fuq 22:33 < huebi> any more? 22:34 < inode> i stoped it 22:34 < huebi> why 22:34 < huebi> ? 22:34 < inode> im rm _nodel_ and starting fresh 22:35 < huebi> inode: Stop 22:35 < inode> ok 22:35 < inode> just those two 22:35 < snyke> hm 22:35 < huebi> inode: I think you are a little bit frustrated. I want to help you over this point. 22:35 < inode> ummm Yes 22:36 < huebi> inode: I modified all scripts that you can just delete rock-intel-1.5.14 and just redo all the failed parts. 22:37 < inode> i like to finish what i start but my schedual is about to force on other task and thats going to last a couple of weeks 22:38 < huebi> inode: I see. And perhaps you can finish it now and have more fun later. 22:38 < inode> well ive made a few mistakes in the process so it might be a good idea to start over 22:38 < huebi> with the new task 22:39 < inode> huebi yeah at least get it to the point of a burn and install then work on it later 22:39 < huebi> find . -name "*err" | wc -l 22:39 < inode> no with the building task... i first did the build in -orig and not -linux 22:40 < huebi> inode: ok. 22:40 < huebi> cd /rock-orig 22:40 < inode> ok 22:40 < inode> _nodel_ is back 22:41 < huebi> /bin/mv -af Config _nodel_ dist lib src tars /rock-linux 22:42 < inode> mv: invalid option -- a 22:43 < huebi> /bin/mv -f Config _nodel_ dist lib src tars /rock-linux 22:45 < inode> some of those files i cant find 22:46 < huebi> which ones? 22:47 < inode> duhhh my bad 22:47 < inode> thier there 22:47 < inode> in -linux 22:48 < huebi> did you move Config _nodel_ dist lib src tars from /rock-orig to /rock-linux 22:48 < huebi> ? 22:48 < inode> im doing that 22:49 < inode> i had to remake Config 22:49 < inode> im good 22:50 < huebi> ok. now you have got everything in /rock-linux 22:50 < inode> nope im not there is only one tarfile in ./tar 22:50 < huebi> 00-dirtree 22:50 < inode> yup 22:51 < huebi> inode: cd /rock-linux 22:51 < inode> ok 22:51 < huebi> inode: ./scripts/Build-All COPY 22:51 < inode> yup it rebuilding 22:52 < esden> re hi all 22:52 < inode> yo 22:52 < inode> and its starting at gcc 22:52 < huebi> inode: now all packages with .err should build. 22:53 < inode> ummm ok but what happend to all the good files i hade 22:54 < huebi> they are built. And you moved them to the right place. 22:54 < huebi> the second package is linux 22:54 < huebi> and now it is building 22:55 < inode> yeah i see that but it was already built 22:56 < huebi> no, it wasn't. It failed in stage 1. Now it is rebuild for that stage. 22:58 < inode> well i'll be back in 7hrs 23:00 < inode> huebi thank you for the help 23:00 < tsa> *sigh* getting a new "admin" at work can really suck.. 23:00 < huebi> pleasure. And have Fun. 23:00 < inode> huebi did you say you had an xp1800smp ?/ 23:00 < huebi> inode: Yes 23:01 < inode> it took you almost 8hrs to compile base? 23:01 < huebi> I built it for having a super fast Linux bos 23:01 < huebi> /s/s/x/ 23:02 < huebi> inode: Yes and now it's 5h40 to 6h 23:03 < inode> that give me a ref point for my system its taking 6hr51min for me to compile base 23:03 < huebi> I want Rock to be buildable on a cluster 23:03 < inode> there you go 23:03 -!- tsa is now known as tsa|br 23:03 -!- tsa|br is now known as tsa|brb 23:04 < esden> huebi: clifford has implemented dependances ... to make it possible 23:04 < huebi> www.mosix.org 23:04 < inode> that was the one ive been looking at 23:04 < huebi> esden: jo, thank you 23:05 < esden> that is a project at fachhochschule of praenti 23:05 -!- tsa|brb is now known as tsa|beer 23:05 < esden> compile rock on mosix cluster running rocklinux ;-) 23:05 < inode> hell yeah 23:06 < huebi> inode: I visited Amnon Barak in Jerusalem. Combined with PVM it is the fastes solution if you don't use shared memory 23:06 < esden> talk to praenti about it ... 23:07 < inode> huebi im close to building a cluster... i have two boxes and one awaiting a box 23:08 < tsa|beer> any ssh expert here? 23:08 < huebi> no, Vim is not here ;)) 23:09 < tsa|beer> i've got a strange problem with pseudo-tty allocation on the remote host-. 23:09 < rxr> gbac 23:11 < esden> dumdidum 23:11 < esden> inode: cool ... I also want to run rockcompiles on clusters ... 23:12 < rxr> huebi: steht die U5 schon bei dir? 23:12 < esden> we hawe in our club 17 machines that are most of the time idle ... 23:12 < esden> rxr: could you call rippy ? 23:12 * huebi is installing slowlaris 23:13 < tsa|beer> huebi: 02/02 ? 23:13 < huebi> 07/01 23:13 < tsa|beer> i've heard of some problems with 02/02.. 23:13 < rxr> esden: Yes I got him - finally ... 23:13 < huebi> I told SUN some problems about 07/01 23:13 < huebi> hehe 23:15 < huebi> I want to have the newest OBP in that machine 23:16 < huebi> and the patch only works on slowlaris 23:16 < inode> obp? 23:17 < huebi> Open Boot Prom - The Sun BIOS 23:17 < esden> rxr: good ... praenti wanted to call him too 23:18 * -> esden waititg for fake ... 23:19 < snyke> ah fake will come too? 23:19 < huebi> ripclaw still had four U5 when Icame to him. Now he _must_ order at least 23 more to fullfill his contract with me. So don't call him. He has aproblem in the Moment 23:19 < esden> snyke: yepp 23:20 < huebi> hehehe 23:20 -!- fake666 [~fake@p50857EC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:20 < esden> huebi: ohh ... 23:20 < snyke> hi fake666 23:20 < esden> hi fake666 !!! 23:20 < huebi> Who does believe me? Hands up! 23:20 < esden> *happy* 23:20 < fake666> konban-wa 23:20 < esden> nice to see you here fake666 !!! 23:21 < fake666> yeah yeah. i got it. 23:21 < fake666> :P 23:21 * huebi , the story teller 23:21 < esden> sadly is armijn not here cuz he is the one who wanted to talk to you 23:21 < fake666> grandma heubi, tell me a story ! 23:21 < esden> huebi: we know this ... ;-) 23:22 < huebi> esden: who told you? It's a secret.. 23:22 < esden> good idea ... huebi tell us a goodnight story 23:22 < fake666> *nargh* damn mplayer docus 23:22 -!- praenti_to_esden is now known as praenti 23:22 < praenti> re 23:22 < esden> I can't reveal my sources @ huebi 23:22 < esden> re praenti 23:22 < huebi> esden: ?? 23:22 < fake666> esden is not GPL ? 23:23 < esden> nope I am closed source ;-) 23:23 < fake666> rm -rf esden 23:23 < praenti> lol 23:23 < esden> argh .... !!! 23:23 < esden> *die* 23:23 < huebi> cat esden > /dev/null 23:23 < fake666> never trust closed source ;) 23:23 < fake666> hehe 23:24 < praenti> kill -9 esdenrun 23:24 < esden> you are so cruel to me ... :-(((( 23:24 < fake666> hedwig always tried buffer overflow attacks on esden ;-)) 23:24 < praenti> evil 23:24 < praenti> fake666: not only on him... 23:24 < praenti> but im very good programmed ;-) 23:24 < esden> fake666: never call this name !!!! 23:24 < fake666> multicast-buffer-overflow *g* 23:24 < praenti> no gets 23:25 < huebi> \ 23:25 < tsa|beer> fake666: and it turned out that there is no buffer inside esden? ;-) 23:25 < praenti> lauter biertrinker 23:25 < huebi> esden is hard coded? 23:25 < fake666> tsa|beer: he segfaulted after a few weeks of attacks *grins* 23:26 < esden> huebi: I gat sometimes a hardon ... but I am not hardcoded ;-) 23:26 < snyke> soo, i've to go to bed, must go to school tomorrow! good night @all!!! 23:26 < fake666> you got... a.... o_O 23:26 < fake666> n8 snyke! 23:26 < tsa|beer> esden: please don't explain any further ;) 23:26 < esden> n8 snyke 23:26 -!- tsa|beer is now known as tsa 23:26 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("BitchX: double your pleasure, double your fun!") 23:26 < huebi> by sn 23:27 < fake666> esden> you DO know what "getting a hardon" means? 23:27 < esden> fake666: YES I DO 23:27 < huebi> fake666: please explain 23:27 < esden> rofl !!! 23:27 < tsa> lol. 23:27 < fake666> you got a hardon by listening to her.... /dev/urandom stuff? 23:27 < huebi> irc is better than TV ;)) 23:27 < tsa> _NO_ Pics, pleeaase! 23:28 < praenti> ??? @tsa 23:28 < huebi> url? 23:28 < praenti> do you mean like TV or pics from hedwig 23:28 < tsa> nobody wants that kind of pics from rocklinux developers... 23:28 < esden> huebi: that is what happest with your 3'rd leg when you got sexually erected ... when I did get it correct ... *think* 23:28 < huebi> *click* *click* *click* *click* - nothing found 23:28 < tsa> esden: nice description... 23:29 < esden> tsa: this is somehow the correct description ;-) 23:29 < fake666> man sex 23:30 < huebi> esden: Ahh, when I can't bow the knee of my second leg anymore... 23:30 < huebi> ;) 23:30 < praenti> to explain: her body looks very attractive but her character more as terrible 23:30 < praenti> *brrr* *schüttel* 23:30 < fake666> fake@apollo:~$ man women 23:30 < praenti> very hard for your brain 23:30 < fake666> No manual entry for women. 23:31 < fake666> *ROFL* 23:31 < esden> rofl 23:31 < praenti> rotfl!!!! 23:31 < huebi> fake666: use info woman 23:31 < fake666> No menu item `woman' in node `(dir)Top'. 23:31 < tsa> No menu item `woman' in node 23:31 < tsa> does this mean we're still available? ;-) 23:31 < esden> we have to add women.1 to rocklinux ... 23:32 < praenti> huebi: that doesnt make sense. do you no a man who can descripe or understand woman 23:32 < fake666> women: nothing appropriate. 23:32 < fake666> apropos ;) 23:32 < huebi> praenti: very easy in german... 23:33 < fake666