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--- Log opened Thu Apr 18 00:00:30 2002 --- Day changed Thu Apr 18 2002 00:01 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has quit (""Mir Sarg"") 00:06 < praenti> huebi: really ultimative ;-) 00:06 < huebi> praenti: How many points did you get 00:06 < huebi> ? 00:06 < praenti> 86 00:07 < praenti> how much points you have? 00:07 < huebi> praenti: <- yunki 00:07 < huebi> 40 00:07 < huebi> ;))) 00:07 < praenti> i was too tired to think about the questions, so mostly i said always ;-) 00:07 < huebi> 23:52 < huebi> How often do you try to hide how long you've been on-line? <- hmm, better ask: What's your uptime? ;) 00:08 < huebi> hehe 00:08 < praenti> 24h hehe lol 00:08 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0A720.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:08 < praenti> hi frank 00:08 < huebi> how long are you online? 99,999% 00:09 < hackbard> hi :) 00:09 < praenti> ok. one disconnect from provider 00:10 < huebi> praenti: 99,99999% < 7x9 = one arptable fush of the routers (~2min) 00:14 < tsa> rxr: awake? 00:16 < rxr> no I'm here ;-) 00:17 < tsa> that enough... 00:17 < rxr> moin tsa! 00:17 < tsa> avifile package in extra1 is pretty outdated. 00:17 < praenti> huebi: ;-) 00:17 < rxr> the guy released a new version? nice 00:17 < tsa> https://avifile.sourceforge.net/avifile0.7-20020412.tar.gz 00:17 < praenti> but now im going to bed. cya today morning or lunch time 00:18 -!- praenti is now known as praenti_ZzZz 00:19 < rxr> tsa ic - did at compiled on your box? 00:20 * rxr is wondering if irsii can make some beeps if someone writes his name ;-) 00:20 < tsa> rxr: i'm currently trying.. 00:20 < rxr> I, too ... :-) 00:20 < tsa> hehe 00:21 * rxr ./configure 00:21 < tsa> scripts/Build-Pkg ... 00:22 < rxr> load average: 3.30, 2.64, 2.41 00:22 < tsa> hehe 00:22 < rxr> might take some time dRock ROCK-1.7 are currently building ... 00:22 * rxr make ;-) 00:23 < tsa> hm...intreresting. 00:23 < tsa> what's package.cache ? 00:23 < tsa> [ERROR] No reference build done so far. 00:23 < tsa> nothing else in it. 00:23 < tsa> btw...avifile doesn't build here. 00:23 < tsa> mpegvideo_mmx.c:433: mpegvideo_mmx_template.c: No such file or directory 00:24 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has joined #rocklinux 00:24 < Mike1> re 00:24 < rxr> the .cache contains dependencies of an build-all reference builf 00:24 < rxr> Hi Mike1 00:24 < rxr> tsa: so packages can be build in parallel ;-) 00:24 < tsa> oh, i see 00:24 < tsa> this is nice. 00:24 < rxr> cliff is currently running the first reference build ;-) 00:24 < Mike1> yo rxr 00:25 < rxr> tsa: You might like to read some crollback of stuff Cliff and I discussed this afternoon ;-) 00:25 < rxr> Mike1: you wanted to so some pics of your U5? 00:25 < huebi> hi Mike1 00:26 < Mike1> rxr just of inviting some firends to logging my ULTRA 5 00:26 < Mike1> hello huebi 00:26 < tsa> rxr: hm....avifile fails "make" in avifile0.7-20020412/plugins/libffmpeg/libavcodec/i386 00:26 < rxr> mine faild finding the decore.h 00:27 < rxr> but this is because I have divx5 installed in /usr/local and no -I/usr/local/include by defaults ... 00:27 < tsa> hm...interesting. 00:28 < rxr> Mike1: logging or log in ? ;-) 00:28 < Mike1> log in :P 00:29 < rxr> Mike1: what OS is running? 00:29 < Mike1> Linux Splack 00:30 < rxr> the CPU performance would be of interest for me ;-) 00:30 < rxr> so running some bech would be interesting ... 00:30 < Mike1> rxr yes i know thats why i told ya 00:30 < rxr> Mike1: is it 24h online? 00:31 < Mike1> rxr yes it is 00:31 < Mike1> T1 connection 00:31 < rxr> wow ;-) 00:31 < Mike1> :) 00:31 < rxr> an ssh account would be nice ,) 00:32 < Mike1> i made one for you 00:32 < Mike1> just go ahead 00:32 < Mike1> finger 00:33 < Mike1> huebi you wanna log in too? 00:33 -!- BL|away [~blinke@cab.Genetik.Uni-Bielefeld.DE] has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:34 < huebi> Mike1: Yes, thank you 00:34 < huebi> ;) 00:34 < Mike1> huebi ok mom 00:36 < tsa> any recommendations for a good divx/avi player? 00:37 < Mike1> huebi you here yet? 00:38 < huebi> ;)jo 00:39 < Mike1> have fun huebi 00:39 < tsa> hm...mplayer package is outdated, too... 00:40 < rxr> tsa: might be - it's not mine ... - but it is really cool that so many people join the 1.7 tree - so ROCK will get really up to date ;-) 00:40 * tsa sending mail to jimmy@is-vn.bg 00:41 * rxr running the ROCK bench on Mike1 U5 hehehe ;-) 00:41 < tsa> rxr: i don't want to bring up the discussion again, but i think we would have more active maintainers if the sf cvs structure wasn't so complicated.. 00:41 < tsa> no discussion, please. 00:41 < tsa> ;) 00:41 < rxr> tsa: yes - I do not wanna waste more time ... ;-) 00:42 < tsa> hehehehe 00:42 < Mike1> looks like you guys already had fun discussing about it 00:42 < rxr> it makes me really happy that the gentoo scripts are so ugly ;-) Knowing that ROCK rocks is great ;-> 00:42 < rxr> NUMERIC SORT : 124.04 : 3.18 : 1.04 00:42 < rxr> STRING SORT : 10.163 : 4.54 : 0.70 00:42 < rxr> BITFIELD : 2.6337e+07 : 4.52 : 0.9 00:42 < tsa> rxr: i've not seen them - how do you know? did you install it? 00:43 < rxr> what? 00:43 < tsa> gentoo scripts.. 00:43 < rxr> ah no I took a look into their CVS using the Web interface ;-) 00:43 < tsa> ah, ok... 00:43 < rxr> https://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gentoo-x86/ 00:44 * rxr just powering up an K62 to compare the bench results ;-) 00:45 < tsa> hm....these ebuild formats looks like they stole the idea from rock. 00:45 < tsa> ..and changed it a little bit so nobody would notice. 00:47 < tsa> $ ls package/package/abandoned/ 00:47 < tsa> CVS 00:47 < rxr> tsa: they also hardcode everything! even the ./configure make make install 00:47 < rxr> copyies ... - and dependencies 00:47 < tsa> hm...we have _no_ abandoned packages any more? 00:47 < tsa> cool. 00:47 < rxr> tsa: where do you look at ? ;-) 00:48 < tsa> rxr: "cvs co package", 2 minutes ago. 00:49 < rxr> the directory was always empty ... ;-) 00:49 < tsa> hm... 00:49 < rxr> Mike: 00:49 < rxr> INTEGER INDEX : 3.382 00:49 < rxr> FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 1.837 00:50 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 00:50 < jonath[an]> are 00:50 < rxr> A K6-2 has: 31.7 00:50 < tsa> so where are the abandoned packages? i'm still trying to convince holyolli to take over some of them.. 00:50 < rxr> 24.9 00:50 < rxr> tsa: grep for packages of Beevin (or however he gets spelled) 00:51 < rxr> or check some version numbers ... 00:52 < rxr> (the K62 has 350 Mhz ...) 00:53 < Mike1> rxr my U5 has a SparcII 270mhz 00:53 < rxr> Mike1: Jups. You anc cat /proc/cpuinfo told me ;-) 00:53 < rxr> Mike1: but it should be as fast as a 500Mhz PII ;-) 00:53 < rxr> (Huebi and Ripclaw told ...) 00:54 < tsa> Mike1: you should have installed solaris 8 and see if rxr finds it out ;-) 00:54 < Mike1> yeah 00:54 < Mike1> tsa haha, nah i installed splack cuz i'm working on rock-1.7 00:54 < rxr> I run the whole bench - maybe some options get a better performance out of it ;-) 00:54 < Mike1> i wanna build it here 00:55 < rxr> Mike1: The bench? 00:55 < Mike1> rxr could be 00:55 < Mike1> rxr ? 00:55 < rxr> Mike1: ? 00:56 < huebi> *lol* 00:56 < Mike1> <rxr> Mike1: The bench? ... ??? 00:56 < rxr> huebi: what are you loling about? 00:56 < Mike1> huebi hehe 00:56 < huebi> rxr: Mike want's to build 1.7 00:56 < huebi> rxr: 00:56 < Mike1> rxr ? 00:56 < huebi> 00:56 < rxr> Mike1: ? 00:58 < rxr> Mike1: in some days I should help building 1.7 ... 00:58 < Mike1> rxr good good 00:58 < Mike1> armijn wants me working in 1.5.14 00:58 < Mike1> but i really REALLY wanna go for 1.7 00:58 < jonath[an]> bye 00:58 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has left #rocklinux () 00:59 < rxr> I'll do 1.7 ;-) 01:00 < Mike1> rxr so i will :D 01:02 < rxr> nvi really suck 01:03 < huebi> rxr: use vi on solaris or aix and you will love nvi 01:04 < rxr> urgh 01:04 < huebi> I prefer vim ;)) 01:04 * tsa actually uses vi on solaris 01:04 < tsa> i learned using vi on sun's. 01:05 < huebi> tsa: I think tha rxr has not so much experience with commercial UNIXes 01:05 < huebi> I learned it on AIX 01:05 * Mike1 learned on solaris 01:06 < rxr> huebi: why should I - I took some look here and there - and did some on the Indy stuff at our University - but since all is so much worser than ROCK .... 01:06 < tsa> hehe 01:07 < tsa> we've been working on sparcstation4 at university till a year ago. 01:08 < huebi> rxr: Rock is one of the best UNIXes. But there are still some managers deciding to use e.g AIX or Slowlaris, HP-UX... 01:08 < tsa> sparcstation4's make you honor the existance of twm and fvwm. 01:09 < rxr> tsa: hm :-) 01:09 < Mike1> not everyone is brave enought to go for ROCK! 01:12 < rxr> Mike1: is your u5 alos online the next days? 01:14 < Mike1> is my workstation i can have it online as much time as i need/want 01:14 < Mike1> why? 01:14 < rxr> the I could do some more test after sleep ;-) 01:16 < Mike1> rxr you got it 01:16 < Mike1> :D 01:17 < rxr> (after soem .vim and .bashrc work I also start to feel comfortable ;-) 01:17 < Mike1> so any impressions so far? 01:17 < rxr> the standard gcc seem to optimize not very well ... 01:18 < rxr> (on sun) 01:18 < rxr> i currently try to use the installed egcs - but currently I have to find a typo i introducede into the autobench.sh ... 01:18 < tsa> rxr: feel free to get SUNWSpro .. 01:18 < rxr> ?? 01:19 < tsa> the sun c compiler. 01:19 < rxr> obviously ;-) 01:19 < tsa> you'll just need a lot of money.. 01:19 < rxr> But I would go fruther and test gcc-3.0.4 or gcc-3.1.0-prerelease ;-) 01:19 < huebi> tsa: or a monthly phoncall ;) 01:19 < huebi> or ripclaw 01:19 < tsa> hm.. 01:23 < tsa> == 04/18/02 01:21:51 =[9]=> Finished building package libxml2. 01:23 < tsa> 2.4.20 builds. 01:23 * tsa sending patch. 01:23 < huebi> kool 01:23 < rxr> no 01:23 < rxr> it is in my tree already ... 01:24 < tsa> rxr: so it's up to you to apply it ;) 01:24 < rxr> I only wait for KDE3 to build -> then all goes out to Cliff ... 01:24 < rxr> ah kdelibs build now ;-) 01:26 -!- Mike1 is now known as Mike1^coffee 01:29 -!- Mike1^coffee is now known as Mike1 01:31 -!- th_ [th@delta.boerde.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:32 < Mike1> re th 01:32 * Mike1 away 01:33 -!- th [th@delta.boerde.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01:37 < hackbard> gn1 01:37 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0A720.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:39 < Mike1> rxr you here? 01:39 < rxr> jups 01:39 < Mike1> i run ./scripts/Config 01:40 < Mike1> and set the arch to sparc 01:40 < Mike1> is it for sparc32 or sparc64 01:40 < rxr> sparc64 ;-) 01:40 < Mike1> or it doesn't matter? 01:40 < Mike1> rxr awesome 01:40 < Mike1> :) 01:40 < Mike1> :))))))))) 01:40 < rxr> I do not know whether spart32 works, too - it should be binary compatible .... 01:40 < rxr> but your's is a sparc64 ... 01:41 < Mike1> rxr yes thats why i asked 01:41 < SMP> sparc64 works even less than sparc 01:41 < Mike1> SMP hehe 01:42 < rxr> SMP: in which context? You mean the state of the ROCK port? 01:42 < SMP> Mike1: do you read rock-ports? 01:42 < Mike1> ok i just installed curl cuz splack DOESNT HAVE IT!!! 01:42 < SMP> rxr: in general, but esp. thr ROCK port 01:42 < Mike1> SMP kinda lazy to when i didn't have a sparc 01:43 < Mike1> SMP are you building 1.7 for sparc? 01:43 < SMP> neither 01:43 < Mike1> ok 01:48 * Mike1 fetching required packages for 1.7 01:50 * rxr a this is why the conenct got this slugish :-( 01:53 -!- jonath[an] [~jonvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 01:53 < SMP> Mike1: if you use an unpatched 1.7 tree, expect near nothing to work for sparc / sparc64 01:53 < jonath[an]> re 01:53 < SMP> g'nite 01:53 < rxr> SMP: n8 01:53 < jonath[an]> gut nacht SMP 01:54 < huebi> I go to bed. have fun, Btw, phpgroupware is now running 01:54 < rxr> Mike1: yes - you need an intermeditate knowledge of the ROCK scrpts to fix 1.7 for Sparc ... 01:54 < jonath[an]> bye Hueb 01:54 < rxr> bye, 2 01:57 < rxr> Mike1: Slack behaves strange ... 01:59 < rxr> Mike1: and the egcs can't compile the bechmark ... 01:59 < Mike1> SMP i see 02:00 < Mike1> rxr i'm running a fresh splack installation so i certainly know that some things are not going to work 02:00 < Mike1> are there any patches for 1.7 so far? 02:00 < rxr> no - I mean some egrep bash scripting - s.th. is strange there ... 02:00 < Mike1> re jonath[an] 02:01 < rxr> Mike1: I thing they do 1.5 currently ... 02:01 < jonath[an]> hola Miguel 02:01 < Mike1> rxr i havent get any strange problems yet 02:01 < Mike1> rxr no armijn is releasing some patching for 1.5.14 tomorrow as he told me earlier 02:01 < rxr> Mike1: the autobench doesn't work 100% correct - I'll take a deeper look tomorrow ... 02:01 < Mike1> hola jonath[an] ojal estuvieras aca 02:01 < Mike1> rxr ok 02:02 < jonath[an]> Mike1: por que? 02:02 < jonath[an]> algo interesante? 02:02 * Mike1 will work with 1.5.14 and start working with 1.7 02:02 < rxr> Mike1: Why no? So armijn does 1.5 ;-) And esden too - I think ... 02:02 < Mike1> jonath[an] everything 02:02 < Mike1> rxr yeah 02:02 < Mike1> but you and i are going to do 1.7 :D 02:02 < jonath[an]> sounds funny 02:02 < jonath[an]> :} 02:03 < rxr> Mike1: seem to get a nice advanture ;-) 02:03 < Mike1> jonath[an] podriamos bajar mil cosas y podrias jugar con mi tarro 02:03 < rxr> so I log out of your box now - I need sleep 02:03 < Mike1> rxr yeah i think so 02:03 < Mike1> rxr sure 02:03 < jonath[an]> Mike1: really cool 02:04 < jonath[an]> Mike1: a eso llamas tarro? 02:04 < rxr> Mike1: A really nice journey ;-) 02:04 < Mike1> hehe 02:04 < rxr> (into the bits and bytes he he ;-) 02:04 < Mike1> rxr yeah, armijn will hate me for that i think 02:04 < Mike1> Jan is already working with 1.7 as far as i know 02:04 < Mike1> so we should ask some questions to him 02:07 < rxr> ok good night! 02:07 -!- rxr is now known as rxr_zzZZ 02:07 < Mike1> n8 rxr_zzZZ 02:09 * Mike1 eating 02:31 < Mike1> la verdad no 02:33 * Mike1 leaving 02:33 < Mike1> n8 all 02:33 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has quit ("[BX] The name's X. 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Shouldn't you?") 03:06 -!- Netsplit vinge.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: freed 03:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: freed 03:22 < tsa> n8 03:22 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082AEB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:15 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@pD9E3E364.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:04 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@pD9E3E39C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:16 -!- rxr_zzZZ is now known as rxr 07:16 < rxr> moin ;-) 07:44 -!- rxr is now known as rxr_away 08:43 < huebi> moin 11:01 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:01 < netcrow> hi 11:02 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 11:27 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@pD950E532.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:50 < rxr_away> hi 11:50 -!- rxr_away is now known as rxr 11:50 < huebi> hi rxr 11:50 < rxr> moin huebi! 11:53 < SMP> damn. 11:54 < huebi> hi SMP 11:56 < rxr> damn too 11:56 < rxr> the stupid T1lib build prints again stuff to my printer 11:56 < rxr> :-( 11:58 < rxr> shit - a new mountain of paper for notes .... #asdSDAFkjdha! 12:05 < huebi> I'm just testing PHPGroupWare. looks nice and seems to be a good GPL solution for the exchange problem :-) 12:07 < esden> tachle 12:08 < huebi> hi esden 12:08 < netcrow> hi esden 12:08 -!- freed [~bofh@konzentrat.tfh-berlin.de] has quit ("BitchX-1.0c18 -- just do it.") 12:09 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@pD950E532.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[BX] Occifer, take me drunk, I'm home") 12:09 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@pD950E532.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:09 < rxr> huebi: did you do some performance test on your U5? 12:10 < esden> shidde ist der scrollback lang !!! 12:12 * rxr just trying to build a gcc-20020415 on Mike's Sparc ;-) 12:15 < rxr> huebi: maybe the ROCK home-page could adapt the new ALSA style (slightly) - even the colors might be ok: https://www.alsa-project.org/ 12:16 < esden> rxr: *surf* 12:17 < rxr> esden: well - you might not like the white background :-( ... 12:17 < rxr> keeping suck navigation links on the top of all ROCK pages might help a lot. 12:18 < esden> hmm ... that would be ok ... if everybody wants white beckground i will not veto it or something ... we are a democratic group ... 12:19 < esden> but I do not see there a real layout or something ... 12:19 < rxr> esden: maybe a slightly darker white (alsa ghostview would be a compromis? 12:19 < esden> on the alsa site ... 12:19 < rxr> I only mean the style on the front page ... 12:20 < esden> but i can imagine what you mean ... 12:20 < esden> hmm sure ... 12:20 * rxr now the gcc configure finished ... 12:20 < esden> ??? 12:20 < rxr> esden: ? 12:20 < esden> nothing ;-) 12:20 < rxr> took 8 minutes :-( 12:20 < esden> i was only wondering what you are doing ... 12:21 < rxr> building the gcc-3.1-prerelease on Mike's sparc ;-) 12:21 < esden> aha ... and on sparc it needs time ... 12:21 < rxr> The performance using the gcc-2.95.3 sucks 12:22 < rxr> I'll test if the gcc-3.1.x does a better job ... 12:22 < esden> good do this ... I have to read my mail now ... 12:24 < rxr> I'll also get some sleep now (I didn't last night ...) 12:30 -!- netcrow [~netcrow@pD950E532.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[BX] I wonder what this button marked "EOF" does...") 13:12 < fake> ohayooo 13:20 -!- clifford [~clifford@M105P002.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 13:20 < fake> hi cliff 13:21 < clifford> hi 13:21 < huebi> moin 13:24 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 13:24 < armijn> re 13:24 < fake> hi 13:24 < clifford> hi 13:25 < armijn> first sparc64 patches are there... 13:25 < armijn> maybe they will work for 1.7 as well... 13:25 < armijn> is ltrace IA-32 specific? 13:25 < clifford> no. 13:25 < clifford> but does not support all architectures. 13:26 < armijn> can't get it to compile on my ultra...still have to do more tests. 13:26 < fake> yeah, finally the downloads finished... 13:26 < armijn> clifford: still in hospital? 13:26 < fake> ... not to mention the checksum tests ;) 13:27 * fake sends clifford a high-potion 13:27 < clifford> no - I'm in the office now. :-) 13:27 < armijn> hmm...office... 13:27 * fake wants it back. 13:27 < armijn> oh, btw I will give a talk about distros and ROCK on may 22 in Rotterdam 13:27 < clifford> fake: no. :-) 13:27 < fake> you owe me one ;P 13:28 < clifford> # ping -f fake 13:28 < fake> ........ 13:29 < armijn> I sent that to rock-doc-pr, but no response... 13:29 < fake> ipchains input -p icmp -j reject 13:29 < clifford> armijn: yes - I know. 13:29 < armijn> clifford: good :) 13:30 < esden> re 13:30 < armijn> hi esden 13:30 < armijn> esden: when can we expect the first alpha patches? 13:30 < esden> *keuch* 13:30 < esden> armijn: there were already some ... 13:30 < clifford> ./bonk 1.2.3.4 fake 13:30 < armijn> esden: right. haven't seen them :) 13:30 < esden> armijn: but my diskspace is to small 13:31 < armijn> esden: remove packages. 13:31 < esden> armijn: my schedule is filled to the extreme ... 13:31 < armijn> esden: that's what I will do on my machines.... 13:31 < huebi> esden: remove Windows NT 13:31 < armijn> esden: that's bullshit, you still have time to sleep! 13:32 < esden> huebi: good idea ;-) 13:32 < armijn> hi huebi 13:32 < huebi> ;) 13:32 < clifford> !! there are two things I want to discuss .. 13:33 < clifford> 1.) www.rocklinux.org 13:33 < armijn> huebi: sparc64 patches should have arrived 13:33 < clifford> 2.) ROCK Linux E-Zine 13:33 < clifford> armijn: yes - I'm already reading it 13:34 < huebi> clifford: 1. <- new design for the HP would be nice ... 13:34 < esden> armijn: my mother is having other understanding of the term sleep ... she tells me that when I do not sleep enough I get ill ... but I think that it is a time buffer ... so when I do not have enough time i borrow it from the sleep time ... 13:35 < esden> that is not a trivial problem ... my parents are the money givers ... 13:35 < clifford> huebi: design = how it looks like (optically) 13:35 < armijn> hehe 13:35 < clifford> ? 13:36 < esden> clifford: so lets discuss ... 13:36 < esden> ;-) 13:36 < huebi> Yes, and also how the links areordered on the page. Plus more links in the text. 13:37 < armijn> esden: watcha doing in summer? 13:37 < clifford> huebi: where? 13:37 < esden> armijn: coding on rock if I can ... 13:37 < esden> armijn: why are you asking ... 13:37 < clifford> btww: I don't want to discuss the design now. I'm more concerned about the content. 13:38 < esden> armijn: I also have to go to poland ... and solve a little problem about my military service 13:38 < armijn> esden: you could come over, to help with PA-RISC and IA-64 :) 13:38 < armijn> urgh, militairy service... 13:39 < esden> armijn: ok good idea 13:39 < armijn> heheh :) 13:39 < clifford> armijn: is there a reason why you don't use kernel.conf.cpp in your patch? 13:39 < esden> armijn: i am on it ;-) 13:39 < armijn> clifford: that's just used for crosscompiling, right? or not? 13:39 < fake> .cpp ?? 13:40 < clifford> armijn: it's used for building the packages 'linux' and 'modules'. 13:40 < armijn> ah. 13:40 < armijn> clifford: patches for the kernel will follow tomorrow or monday :) 13:40 < fake> i thought it's only kernel.conf ? 13:40 < armijn> clifford: the kernel needs some more...ehr...tweaks 13:40 < clifford> fake: in 1.5.x kernel.conf is created from a kernel.conf.cpp. 13:41 < clifford> fake: so common stuff like choosing ext2fs is done in a include file. 13:41 < fake> oh, ok. i'm at 1.7 13:41 < clifford> fake: in 1.7 we are using m4 for that and kernel.conf is generated from kernel.conf.m4 .. 13:41 < esden> armijn: with tweaks you mean total redesign ? ;-) 13:41 < fake> i know :P 13:42 < armijn> esden: no no 13:42 < esden> armijn: aha ok ... puhh 13:42 < armijn> esden: it's just some tweaks for getting header files right 13:42 < esden> ahh ok 13:42 < clifford> armijn: and that's not possible based on kernel.conf.cpp ?? 13:42 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A6E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:42 < snyke> hi 13:42 < esden> hi snyke 13:43 < fake> hi snyke 13:43 < armijn> clifford: ehr? what's not possible? getting the header files right? 13:43 < armijn> clifford: absolutely not 13:43 < clifford> armijn: header files?? 13:43 < huebi> https://www.dyndns.org/ <- An example how I like a Homepage. on the top and on the left all major links of the whole site. I don't have to click to much. 13:43 < armijn> clifford: yeah. header files. you see, I need both sparc and sparc64 header files (and asm stuff). 13:44 < armijn> and that requires some tweaks 13:44 < clifford> huebi: we have the same on www.rocklinux.org ... 13:44 < armijn> but it's got nothing to do with kernel.conf.cpp 13:44 < armijn> I haven't looked into that yet 13:44 < armijn> first there were other problems to solve... 13:44 < clifford> armijn: ok - i see. 13:44 < armijn> clifford: sparc and sparc64 kernels are somewhat...ehr...weird 13:45 < armijn> oh, btw, I had to disable the install of some info files for the egcs64 package...is it a shame if they don't get installed? 13:45 < armijn> (patches for that package coming soon) 13:45 < armijn> and I had to patch autoconf as well 13:46 < esden> why autoconf @ armijn 13:46 < esden> is it different on sparc ? 13:47 < armijn> esden: no, but the configure script for autoconf searches first for mawk, then awk, gawk and nawk 13:47 < huebi> Why does https://www.rocklinux.org/ differ from https://www1.rocklinux.org/ ? 13:47 < armijn> and uses the first one it can find 13:47 < armijn> esden: on my Debian system it is mawk 13:47 < armijn> esden: so the autoconf shell script wants /usr/bin/mawk, which I don't have in my chroot 13:48 < armijn> and it starts complaining "please install gawk!" 13:48 < armijn> and stuff like that... 13:48 < huebi> Ahh I got it ;-) 13:48 < armijn> because it things my "mawk" in the chroot is broken, which is not even there 13:48 < fake> armi: 13:48 < armijn> s/things/thinks/ 13:48 < clifford> huebi: differ in which way? (some files are not corrdctly updated on www1 and www2 - I'm sending mails about that to chris for some weeks now ...) 13:49 < esden> armijn: ahh right I read about it in rock-ports 13:49 < fake> apt-get install gawk ; rm /etc/alternative/awk ; ln -s /usr/bin/gawk /etc/alternatives/awk 13:49 < armijn> fake: hey, I don't even want to install gawk on my Debian system 13:49 < fake> voila ;) 13:49 < armijn> fake: I totally screwed it up, apt-get doesn't work anymore >:-> 13:49 < huebi> https://www.rocklinux.org/ is an other page than https://www.rocklinux.org/index.html 13:49 < fake> armijin wget.... gawk.deb ? 13:50 < fake> zmodem... ? 13:50 < armijn> fake: I solved the problem, so it's no big deal... 13:50 < fake> okay. ;) 13:50 < armijn> it's a bit ugly though... 13:50 < clifford> huebi: https://www.rocklinux.org/main-idx.html 13:50 < armijn> (stupid Debian) 13:50 < clifford> huebi: so you get a mirror list when you go directly to www.rocklinux.org .. 13:51 < huebi> clifford: Yes, I understand. 13:51 < armijn> jaja, genau, geil :) 13:52 < clifford> armijn: ?? 13:52 < armijn> hmm...what does the austrian 50 eurocent look like? 13:52 < armijn> clifford: just kidding :) 13:52 < huebi> In the Versions text box could be direct links to the download directories. 13:53 < clifford> huebi: to which? 13:53 < huebi> ROCK Linux Snapshot: 13:53 < huebi> 1.7.0-DEV-200204172020 13:53 < clifford> to www.rocklinux.org/snapshots/ ? 13:54 < clifford> maybe it would be better to make a link to https://www.rocklinux.org/getting.html at the bottom of the box? 13:58 < armijn> hmm...have we thought about a ROCK CD for conferences? 13:58 < armijn> because the conferences are coming (SANE, etc.) 13:58 < clifford> huebi: when is the release of ROCK-1.6 scheduled? 13:59 < huebi> clifford: better to www.rocklinux.org/snapshots/ 13:59 < armijn> the target of 1.6 has never been officially stated 13:59 < armijn> as in: full build (base + opt) for IA-32 and base for ports 14:00 < clifford> huebi: I don't want to point directly to the snapshots without pointing directly to the releases .. 14:00 < esden> <INFO>something is wrong with the standard network init scripts in rock ... lo device is not having an ip at default</INFO> 14:01 < esden> is that known ? 14:01 < clifford> esden: ifconfig lo is in boot (1.5) or system (1.7) 14:02 < esden> armijn: where do you get a IA-64 machine from ? 14:03 < esden> clifford: ok i will have a look at it ... 14:03 < armijn> esden: will do it onsite at HP 14:04 < armijn> hmm...gotta do an assignment now 14:04 < armijn> will be back in 10 minutes :) 14:05 < th_> re 14:07 < esden> armijn: ahh cool ... I will look what I can do to come and help you ;-) 14:07 < fake> working onsite is ugly -_- except if you get coffee for free and readily made ;) 14:08 < fake> and some cookies... and catering 14:08 < fake> (what you get at Sun, btw ^^) 14:09 < clifford> .. that's what I like about beeing a trainer .. :-) 14:09 < huebi> clifford: since 2h00 this morning I have a phpgroupware up and running to get all my schedules to work. First I have to build a homepage for 1.[5,6], then there are a few scripts to be build to deploy snapshots easier. In the Moment I have no scedule for 1.6. I want, but don't know if it is possible, to get e schedule in the next to days. Saturday and sunday I have plenty of time for all that stuff, my wife and doughter are not at home in this time. 14:09 < fake> ;)) 14:09 < snyke> *flood* :) 14:10 < clifford> huebi: I see ... :-) 14:10 < clifford> about the HP .. 14:10 < fake> huebi> is your wife good-looking? 14:10 < huebi> fake: Yes 14:10 < fake> huebi then we can make a deal 14:11 < fake> you give fake wife 14:11 < huebi> fake: Why do you ask? ;) 14:11 < clifford> fake: why are you asking !? :-) 14:11 < fake> fakes gives huebi time 14:11 < fake> ;)) 14:11 < clifford> FIGHT! 14:11 < fake> j/k 14:11 < clifford> :-) 14:11 < huebi> *LoooL* 14:11 < fake> esden needs a wife more badly ;) 14:12 < huebi> fake: better two for esden ? 14:12 < fake> at least 14:13 < fake> the more the better ;) 14:13 * fake again intonates the polish national hymn... 14:13 < clifford> .. about the HP .. 14:13 < fake> hai? 14:14 < huebi> clifford: jo? 14:14 < clifford> it's hard to give one download location since you need the ROCK sources and the packages .. 14:15 < huebi> 14:07 >>> clifford [~clifford@M105P002.dipool.highway.telekom.at] requested CTCP PING 2125621516 from huebi <- What does this mean? 14:15 < clifford> the construct of the ROCK sources downloading the package sources should be explained to the user before pointing him to a download location (imo). 14:15 < fake> jo 14:16 < fake> also thet "getting rock linux" should be emphasized 14:16 < clifford> huebi: you have been silent for over 5 minutes - I wanted to see if you are still there or have been disconnected. 14:16 < fake> i always have to look for it twice 14:16 < huebi> clifford: Thank you! 14:16 < armijn> I don't need a wife, I've got an UltraSparc... 14:16 < fake> ... 1 ? 14:17 < clifford> armijn: hmmmm ... poor boy! :-) 14:17 < armijn> clifford: and an Indy 14:17 < armijn> and an Alpha,' 14:17 < fake> *grml* 14:17 < clifford> armijn: ok. 14:17 < armijn> and two JavaStations. 14:17 < armijn> who needs a wife :) 14:17 < fake> <-- needs fast indy 14:17 < fake> <-- dislikes 9600 baud consoles 14:18 < snyke> hehe 14:19 < clifford> btw: how importand are binary downloads and iso downloads? 14:19 < fake> VERY important 14:19 < fake> i don't want to compile a distro so i can just have a quick look at i 14:20 < clifford> fake: what - bin or iso? 14:20 < fake> boot iso i'd say 14:20 < huebi> Yes iso is good. 14:20 -!- term_emu [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:20 < clifford> so the getting.html page could be restructerd: 14:20 < th_> yes. boot-isos are important i think 14:21 < th_> but we should only have links to free-download sites. 14:21 < huebi> make a telnet blinkenlights.nl <- Looking for : Female with E10k. Is that armijn? 14:21 < th_> like universities 14:21 < clifford> introduction - getting binaries - order - building - ftp mirrors. 14:21 < th_> or sf 14:22 < fake> clifford: building = snapshots + releases? 14:22 < term_emu> re 14:22 < clifford> fake: yes. (currently the last box on the page) 14:22 < huebi> https://www.rocklinux.org/index.html <- I would like to see a complete list of the mailing lists 14:22 < armijn> heubi: no, that's not me. 14:23 < clifford> huebi: https://www.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/ 14:23 < huebi> armijn: I thought so, because your room is too small for an E10K 14:23 < fake> armijn would say "Looking for E10k with Female." 14:23 < clifford> huebi: maybe we could make the link easier to find. 14:23 < armijn> hehehe 14:23 < armijn> fake: that's likelier... 14:24 < fake> clifford maybe some logo or something 14:24 < fake> or make it Download 14:24 < clifford> fake: ??? 14:24 < fake> everybody is looking for the "Download" link 14:24 < huebi> clifford: Yes, There are some ROCK Linux Mailinglists <- this must be a link 14:25 < huebi> fake: YES - The Download button is missing 14:25 < clifford> It is a link. 14:25 < fake> most ppl i sent to rocklinux.org said "but there is no download..." >_< 14:25 < clifford> should the button also point to the getting.html page? 14:25 < fake> jo 14:25 < fake> that's fine ;) 14:26 < huebi> clifford: The first sentece in the "Mailing Lists and IRC" box has no link 14:27 < huebi> "Building it yourself" more to the top then "Download" 14:27 < huebi> You can download the entiere ROCK Linux sources from one of the mirrors 14:28 < huebi> <- mirrors - a link to the mirrorrs list 14:28 < clifford> huebi: now the sentence is a link .. 14:28 * fake wants SGI Challenger ... schmoll 14:28 < clifford> huebi: the mirror list is on the same page. 14:29 < clifford> fake: SGI Challenger sucks! You really don't want one .. 14:29 < huebi> https://www.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/ <- and here list with all mailing lists on the top 14:29 < huebi> please 14:29 < huebi> ;) 14:29 < fake> ... at least it'd be faster than this indigo2... 14:29 < clifford> fake: ad it crashes 2-5 times a day. 14:30 < fake> i don't mind, if it crashes fast ;) 14:30 < armijn> Linux doesn't run on the challenger 14:30 < fake> armijn not yet *g* 14:30 < huebi> ROCK Linux Mailinglists <- only these 3 words should be a link 14:31 < clifford> huebi: give me a sec. I'm now hacking my mailing list archive script .. 14:32 < huebi> clifford: kool 14:32 < esden> cu all 14:32 * -> esden going home ... 14:32 < fake> cu esden ;) 14:32 < huebi> by esden 14:34 -!- tsa [~tsa@sec-01.bi.devcon.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:34 < tsa> hi 14:34 < huebi> hi tsa 14:34 < tsa> hi huebi 14:37 < armijn> huebi: so, this weekend you will apply the patches? 14:40 < huebi> armijn: latest at the weekend. My intension is to have a new snapshot regularily on friday (morning?). Then there is something to have fun with at the weekend. 14:40 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:41 < fake> hi netti 14:41 < tsa> hi netcrow 14:41 < huebi> hi netcrow 14:41 < clifford> huebi: jetzt ok? 14:42 < netcrow> hi 14:42 < armijn> huebi: so, you might even apply them today :) 14:43 < huebi> clifford: jo, kool 14:43 < huebi> ;) 14:44 < huebi> armijn: I do my very best. 14:44 < fake> same procedure as every year james... 14:44 -!- schirkaan [~bronko@p5085DB36.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:44 < schirkaan> hi 14:45 < fake> hi 14:45 < huebi> *LOL* 14:46 < clifford> huebi: jetzt noch besser ... :-) 14:47 < fake> clifford: typo 14:47 < fake> screenshots.html, second box... do instead of so 14:48 < clifford> fake: fixed 14:49 < fake> kewl 14:50 < fake> *votes for a kdeless target* 14:51 < armijn> vote! 14:53 < tsa> ACK! 14:54 < tsa> seriously....it would be nice to enable/disable gnome/kde stuff in scripts/Config 14:54 < fake> i hat building kde 14:54 < fake> always makes me feel sooo baaad 14:58 < fake> portamus, ergo sumus. 14:59 < armijn> I port, therefor I am 14:59 < fake> we port, therefore we am ;) 14:59 < fake> s/am/are 15:00 < fake> singular would be portum, ergo sum 15:00 < fake> portam 15:00 < armijn> uhrg. 15:00 < fake> sorry 15:01 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh 15:02 < clifford> huebi: ftp mirror list is now a seperate file (mirrors.html). 15:06 < th_> huebi: what about uni-darmstadt mirroring? 15:06 < huebi> *click* 15:06 < fake> maybe i could get a gmd mirror... 15:07 < th_> fake: YEA! 15:07 < th_> fake: do it! 15:07 < huebi> fake: go go go :-) 15:07 < fake> okay, i'll ask my boss ;) 15:08 < th_> fake: best would be with ssh-upload facility 15:08 < huebi> th_: ACK 15:08 < fake> i already have ssh to several gmd boxes 15:08 < fake> but i'd prefer automatic mirroring 15:09 < th_> fake: huebi needs to upload because of his slow link ;) 15:09 < huebi> fake: from a private, hidden, master mirror with fast connection 15:09 < huebi> !? 15:09 < th_> gmd is fhg, isn't it? 15:10 < fake> fit 15:10 < th_> so it's uunet? 15:10 < fake> dfn? 15:11 < th_> sure? 15:11 < th_> fhg-iff has 34MBit uunet node 15:11 < fake> dfn. 15:12 < fake> at least here in birlinghoven / sankt augustin 15:12 < th_> ok 15:14 -!- praenti_ZzZz is now known as praenti 15:14 < praenti> hi. 15:14 < praenti> can anyone tell me how the title of the kernel blackbook is? 15:15 * clifford is away: cooking ... 15:16 < armijn> cooking? 15:17 < th_> huebi: i'd rather let darmstadt mirror from fake's gmd-mirror and let gmd connect to my hidden primary 15:20 < fake> build startind ... 15:20 < fake> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 106: 28612 Segmentation fault 15:20 < fake> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 1: 28721 Segmentation fault $cmd_buildpkg 15:21 < fake> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 1: 28813 Segmentation fault $cmd_buildpkg 15:21 < fake> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 1: 28747 Segmentation fault $cmd_buildpkg 15:21 < fake> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 1: 29543 Segmentation fault $cmd_buildpkg 15:21 < fake> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 1: 29567 Segmentation fault $cmd_buildpkg 15:21 < tsa> uuups. 15:21 < fake> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 1: 29591 Segmentation fault $cmd_buildpkg 15:21 < fake> ./scripts/Build-Target: line 1: 29617 Segmentation fault $cmd_buildpkg 15:22 < fake> .... 15:22 < fake> i won't continue 15:22 < snyke> hehe 15:26 < fake> DAMNED 15:30 < fake> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP 15:30 < praenti> esden: wenn du das understanding the linux kernel meintest, da habt ihr eins in eurer uni-informatik-bibliothek 15:30 < praenti> esden: schau da mal rein brings mit und dann kaufe ich mir das evtl. ok? 15:31 * praenti is away 15:31 -!- praenti is now known as praenti_away 15:32 < armijn> fake: is that on ontel? 15:32 < fake> no, mips 15:32 < armijn> ehr, intel 15:32 < armijn> aah 15:32 < armijn> hmm 15:32 < armijn> weird 15:32 < fake> what the hell is that? 15:32 < armijn> error in bash? 15:32 < fake> line 106, Build-Pkg 15:32 < fake> should i try sh? 15:32 < armijn> what gets done on line 106? 15:32 < armijn> what does that line read? 15:33 < fake> ./scripts/Build-Pkg $options -maketar . "$1" ; returncode=$? 15:33 < armijn> what does line 106 read? 15:33 < fake> the above 15:33 < fake> line 106 is actually only a "fi" 15:34 < fake> but the line above comes with the segfault error 15:34 < fake> (without the $returncode) 15:34 < fake> so Build-Pkg calls itself with the -maketar option 15:37 < armijn> hmm 15:37 < armijn> so, what does the maketar option do? 15:37 < fake> i dunno 15:37 < fake> i am currently trying to find out what calls Buld-Pkg 15:37 < fake> where is pkgloop? 15:38 < armijn> ? 15:38 < fake> target/generic/build.sh is called by Build-Target 15:39 < fake> which calls pkgloop 15:40 < fake> ah 15:40 < fake> its in scripts/build-functions 15:43 < armijn> so it's b0rken 15:43 < fake> oh, i almost got that. 15:43 < fake> damn it. 15:43 < fake> so i'll have to bite through.... 15:44 < armijn> hehe, welcome in porting land... 15:47 < fake> its not the compiler 15:47 < fake> i already compiled a complete kernel on the machine 15:47 < fake> what does the script want to tar, anyway? 15:47 < fake> it didn't build anything yet 15:48 < armijn> dunno 15:49 < fake> DAMN 15:49 < fake> cliff, cook faster! 15:50 < armijn> hehe 15:53 < tsa> hehehe 15:53 < fake> /usr/src/linux has to match the kernel sources in the ROCK Linux 15:53 < fake> is that true? 15:55 < tsa> depends. 15:55 < tsa> which kernel is running? 15:55 < fake> i built the one from oss.sgi.com 15:55 < fake> 2-4-18 15:55 < fake> but massively patched 15:55 < tsa> hm...should be ok. 15:56 < fake> *phew* 15:56 < fake> then why does it crash... -_- 16:00 < tsa> does anybody know if ripclaw can provide other sun stuff cheap? 16:00 < huebi> tsa: Ask him ;-) 16:01 * tsa is still interested in 440mhz cpu, 1gb ram.. 16:01 < tsa> a1000 array would be nice, but it's probably very noisy and my girlfriend will kill me.. 16:01 < tsa> ;-) 16:02 < fake> T3 ;) 16:02 < tsa> hehe 16:02 < SMP> 440MHz CPU / 1GB are _never_ cheap from Sun ;) 16:02 < fake> hi SMP ;) 16:02 < fake> do you have a sec? 16:02 < tsa> SMP: probably... 16:02 < fake> for me? 16:02 < huebi> 400MHz/8MB = 19000 EUR 16:03 < tsa> *sigh* 16:03 < SMP> fake: me? well, yes 16:03 < fake> smp> when i start Build-Target on the indigo2 16:04 < fake> it builds the tools 16:04 < fake> ... claims to check the flistwrapper 16:04 < fake> )OK) 16:04 < fake> an then says 16:04 < fake> ... 16:04 < fake> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 106: 30671 Segmentation fault ./scripts/Build-Pkg $options -maketar . "$1" 16:05 < fake> oh what could that be, my smp? 16:05 < tsa> huebi: hm...i have an u10 with 256mb and 300mhz... could need some upgrading... 16:05 < SMP> hehe 16:05 < tsa> fake: it's running what OS? you don't try to cross-build from irix, do you? 16:06 < fake> tsa: no, i don't hat speed ^^ 16:06 < fake> hate 16:06 < fake> tsa: debian 16:07 < tsa> fake: perhaps you should try building single packages first... 16:07 < fake> smp but the script keeps running... 16:07 < fake> how? 16:07 < armijn> fake: if you disable the flistwrapper? 16:07 < fake> ./scripts/Build-Pkg less 16:07 < fake> Segmentation faul 16:07 < fake> *lol* 16:07 * clifford is back (gone 00:45:04) 16:07 -!- clifford [~clifford@M105P002.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:07 < tsa> hm. 16:07 < armijn> clifford is back...and gone... 16:08 < fake> armijn how? 16:08 < armijn> fake: ./scripts/Config 16:08 < fake> in Config replace "flistwrapper" with nothing? 16:08 < armijn> fake: see how it is done there... 16:08 < fake> jop 16:08 < armijn> play around with a config file 16:09 < fake> strace is not a good idea either, right? 16:09 < armijn> no 16:09 < fake> i'll try the timestamp thing 16:10 < SMP> fake: well I have no idea. I don't know the 1.7 scripts yet 16:10 < fake> SMP: i thought so. thanks anyway ;) 16:10 < fake> == 23:10:49 =[0]=> Building base/00-dirtree [0000 1.7.0-DEV-200204161451]. 16:10 < fake> *YEEEHAW* 16:11 < fake> Finished building package 00-dirtree. 16:11 < SMP> fake: what Distro are you building on? 16:11 < tsa> debian 16:11 < fake> smp debian and yes, i replaced mawk ;) 16:11 < SMP> what version / release? 16:11 < fake> the latest? 16:11 < tsa> fake: why do you have to replace mawk? 16:12 < tsa> <- just curious 16:12 < fake> tsa some autoconf thing 16:12 < tsa> hm...i see. thanks- 16:12 -!- clifford [~clifford@M102P005.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 16:12 < fake> re cliff 16:12 < tsa> welcome back, clifford 16:12 < clifford> fake: still need help? 16:13 < fake> not really 16:13 < fake> not until the next crash ;) 16:13 < clifford> so you solved the segfault problem? 16:13 < fake> clifford: it was the flist wrapper 16:13 < clifford> aha? 16:14 < fake> armijn pointed me to the option in scripts/Config 16:14 < SMP> dynamic linking madness is common on MIPS :> 16:14 < fake> i chose the timestamp method and now it works 16:15 < clifford> fake: did you try the strace method? (it should be faster than timestamp) 16:15 < fake> clifford: randomness? 16:15 < SMP> I doubt there is an strace for mips at all 16:15 < fake> and that, too :) 16:16 < clifford> using timestamp is not a solution .. 16:16 < clifford> well - it is - but not really - see? 16:17 < SMP> this will be a minor problem 16:17 < SMP> be prepared! ;> 16:17 < fake> aawww... i hate things smp calls "minor problems" 16:18 < fake> i'm curious wether 2.4.18 will compile unpatched 16:18 < SMP> I guess it will 16:18 < fake> it didn't when o tried 3 days ago 16:18 < fake> i 16:18 < SMP> but it won't work 16:18 < fake> some redefinitons 16:18 < fake> i don't care about the kernel for now 16:18 < armijn> fake: disable flist-wrapper 16:19 < armijn> I had to do the same on sparc 16:19 < fake> i did :) 16:19 < armijn> only on sparc I got a better warning ;)) 16:19 < armijn> so it's building? 16:19 < fake> and i'm going to got to work now. 16:19 < fake> armijn jop. 16:19 < fake> *go to work 16:19 < armijn> heh, just let it build :) 16:19 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 16:19 < fake> sure. see ya later! 16:20 < clifford> fake: can your mips be reached from outside? 16:21 < clifford> I want to see what's wrong with flist wrapper .. 16:22 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:22 < clifford> armijn: the only difference between "sparc" and "sparc64" is the kernel? 16:23 < armijn> clifford: ehr, and the kernel compiler 16:23 < armijn> clifford: userland is 32 bit on both machines 16:23 < clifford> sore - but the rest is the same? 16:23 < armijn> 64 bit userland on the ultrasparc is still experimental 16:24 < armijn> for the rest it's the same... 16:24 < clifford> so why not creating just one "sparc" architecture and adding a "build 64bit kernel" option for sparc64 .. 16:24 < armijn> just the kernel, compiler and some headerfile tweaks (asm, /usr/include/linux) 16:24 -!- term_aweh [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has quit ("later") 16:24 < armijn> clifford: because I probably miss the headerfile tweaks then 16:24 < clifford> do those headerfile tweaks effect user-land applications? 16:25 < tsa> fake: how fast is you indy? what cpu? 16:25 < armijn> clifford: yes, you will see that in my patch that I will send in tomorrow 16:25 < clifford> that's great! 16:26 < esden> re hi all 16:27 < esden> home sweet home 16:27 < tsa> hi esden 16:27 < tsa> nice to see you 16:27 < esden> tsa: nice to see you too 16:27 < th_> a strace for mips there is 16:28 < huebi> Moep esden :-) 16:29 < th_> fake: SMP: man par 16:29 < clifford> esden: womit erstellst du die irc stats auf deiner homepage? 16:30 < tsa> gruftistats 16:30 < tsa> https://gruftistats.sourceforge.net/ 16:31 < netcrow> hi esden 16:31 < huebi> clifford: Can all .gif be changed to .png on the rocklinux pages? 16:32 < armijn> burn all GIFs! 16:32 < tsa> hehe 16:32 < esden> clifford: mit gruftstats oder wie dass heisst 16:32 < tsa> esden: siehe oben.... ;) 16:32 < tsa> *grins* 16:32 < esden> aja genau 16:32 < esden> ja schon klar 16:33 < esden> I have restarted my alpha build 16:33 < huebi> esden <- uses irssi on LC-Display 20x4 hehe 16:33 < tsa> ROTFL.. 16:33 < esden> huebi: not _yet_ 16:34 < huebi> esden: 16x2? 16:34 < esden> not yet either ... 16:34 < esden> I have to write a plugin for irssi first ... 16:35 < tsa> esden: so you still have a monitor, do you? ;-) 16:35 * tsa waits for esden to release quake3 for lcdproc ;-) 16:35 < esden> yes three all conected to one box ;-) 16:35 < huebi> tsa: no, a braille display, I bet 16:36 < tsa> huebi: hehehe 16:36 < tsa> hm...there is a tty-quake, afaik. 16:36 < huebi> 3 braille displays in a row 16:36 < esden> tsa: sure 16:37 < huebi> tty-quake <- *sofortundaufderstellehabenwill* 16:37 < esden> huebi: saugen ;-) 16:37 < huebi> where? 16:37 < huebi> url 16:37 < esden> rock-get install tty-quake 16:37 < tsa> https://webpages.mr.net/bobz/ttyquake/ 16:37 < tsa> da. 16:38 < huebi> Danke *freu* (quake auf der E4500, hehe, am terminal) 16:38 < tsa> *lol* 16:38 < clifford> huebi: I have no 'imagemagick' on the host and without it it would be more than 5 minutes of work to convert all the .gif files ... 16:38 < esden> I hate my 10Mbit network !!!! 16:38 < esden> argh 16:39 < tsa> Run the 'ttyquake' script from your Quake directory. 16:39 < tsa> Put your head between your legs and breathe deeply until the shock wears off. 16:39 < tsa> hahahaha 16:39 < esden> I want abigger harddisk in my alpha >_< 16:40 < huebi> clifford: moment , I replaced it on rocklinux.dyndns.org. 5000$ for a sit with gif's is a little bit too much :( 16:40 < huebi> wait a minut 16:40 < huebi> e 16:41 < huebi> If you have to ask why, you're not a member of the intended audience. Please go on about your business and accept my apologies for this distraction. *LOOL* 16:42 -!- term_emu [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:42 < term_emu> hi 16:42 < tsa> huebi: hehe 16:42 -!- netcrow is now known as net|netda 16:42 < term_emu> someone here who wants to do me a favour? 16:42 < th_> we are all thrilled doing a favour to you 16:43 < term_emu> :} 16:43 < tsa> any general opinion on seagate scsi disks? i've only been using ibm so far... 16:43 < term_emu> plz telnet 195.143.238.197 80 16:43 < th_> Connected to 195.143.238.197. 16:43 < th_> Escape character is '^]'. 16:43 < term_emu> urgs :) 16:43 < th_> HTTP/1.1 200 OK 16:43 < th_> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:44:37 GMT 16:43 < th_> Server: Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) PHP/4.0.6 mod_perl/1.25 16:43 < term_emu> thx 16:43 < tsa> Server: Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) PHP/4.0.6 mod_perl/1.25 16:43 < tsa> SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_2.5.2p2 16:44 < tsa> you want to upgrade ssh. 16:44 < term_emu> ic :) 16:44 < term_emu> firewalls not working :) 16:44 < term_emu> hmm 16:44 < term_emu> try again plz 16:45 < th_> telnet 195.143.238.197 80 16:45 < th_> oups 16:45 < th_> Connected to 195.143.238.197. 16:45 < th_> Escape character is '^]'. 16:45 < term_emu> grmpf 16:45 < th_> HTTP/1.1 200 OK 16:45 < th_> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:46:23 GMT 16:45 < th_> Server: Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) PHP/4.0.6 mod_perl/1.25 16:46 < huebi> clifford: https://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/gif2png/ <- all you need to change a whole site in very short time :-) 16:47 < esden> clifford: mail sent ! 16:47 * tsa bookmarking URL. 16:48 < tsa> again: any general opinion on seagate scsi disks? i've only been using ibm so far... 16:48 < huebi> tsa: sie geht oder sie geht nicht. Schneller Support wenn die mal kaputt sind. 16:48 < tsa> huebi: hm... 16:48 < tsa> huebi: sun scheint ausschliesslich seagate zu verbauen... 16:49 < th_> nein 16:49 < huebi> und toschiba 16:49 < th_> sub verbaut auch fuji 16:49 < tsa> hm...ok 16:49 < th_> s/sub/sun/ 16:49 < huebi> s/toschiba/fuji/ 16:49 < tsa> ibm ide wollte auf jeden fall in der sun nicht tun. seagate ide ohne probleme 16:49 < armijn> heh...I just use SCSI 16:49 < huebi> segate und IBM sind bei einigen Modellen nur anders gelabelt. 16:50 < armijn> hey du! 16:51 * armijn brushing up on his Geran 16:51 < huebi> libmng is for animated PNG's 16:51 < armijn> ehr, German 16:51 < term_emu> th_: could you telnet once again? 16:51 < th_> Trying 195.143.238.197... 16:51 < th_> seems dropping 16:51 < term_emu> ok, nice... thank you :) 16:52 < clifford> huebi: configure: error: PNG library is missing! Please get it. 16:52 < clifford> esden: hab's gelesen. 16:53 < esden> clifford: Ich warte auf antwort mit attachment ;-) 16:53 < esden> clifford: wie oft soll ich syncen ? 16:53 < esden> ich wuerde sagen 15 min abstand 16:53 < esden> oder 10 ... 16:54 < armijn> tsa: you sent in the libxml2 patch right? for 1.5? huebi wants it unsigned... 16:54 < fake> damn denouncers! 16:54 < tsa> armijn: *sigh* 16:54 < esden> fake: ??? 16:54 < fake> nevermind. 16:54 < armijn> tsa: sorry :) 16:54 < esden> fake: what is wrong ??? 16:54 < tsa> armijn: no problem. 16:55 < fake> nuttin' 16:55 < armijn> (they ran out of muffins) 16:55 < tsa> huebi: patch is here: https://www1.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/rock-linux/2002-4/141.p3_desc.patch 16:55 < fake> W00T! 16:55 < armijn> (fake needs his daily dosis of muffins) 16:55 < fake> i really compiled! 16:55 < fake> == 04/18/02 23:31:00 =[0]=> Finished building package linux. 16:55 < tsa> fake: cool! 16:55 < th_> tsa: the patch was for 1.7, was it? 16:55 < armijn> fake: now get ready for glibc! 16:55 < tsa> th_: yes. 16:56 < fake> == 23:31:17 =[0]=> Building base/glibc [2.2.5 1.7.0-DEV-200204161451]. 16:56 < fake> ;)) 16:56 < tsa> th_: all patches i send to the mailing list apply to 1.7 16:56 < th_> is the version for 1.5 autoconverted? 16:56 < armijn> fake: I had looooooads of trouble with glibc 16:56 < huebi> clifford: ftp://swrinde.nde.swri.edu/pub/png/src/libpng-1.2.2.tar.bz2 16:56 < tsa> th_: i did not send any 1.5 patch. 16:56 < tsa> but it can be hand-applied easily. 16:57 < fake> armijn: no... now i can't watch it anymore... my nerves... 16:57 < th_> ok so i'll do it 16:57 < huebi> clifford: https://www.gzip.org/zlib/zlib-1.1.4.tar.gz <- libpng 16:57 < tsa> i currently don't have a 1.5 tree at home... 16:57 < armijn> fake: and it takes about 4 hours on my ultra1 16:57 < huebi> for libpng, i mean 16:57 < fake> armijn the longest compile i ever had was Qt... that bitch... 16:57 < tsa> fake: what cpu does your machine have? 16:58 < tsa> seems pretty fast.. 16:58 < fake> r4k @ 150 MhZ 16:58 < tsa> hm...ok 16:58 * tsa didn't say anything. 16:58 < huebi> tsa: THANK YOU 16:58 < tsa> huebi: no problem. 16:58 < huebi> caps lock ;) 16:58 < clifford> esden: ad rsnc: stuendlich wuerde auch reichen 16:58 < clifford> esden: ad antwort: ich bin nicht multitasking-faehig .. 16:58 < tsa> huebi: i'll get a 1.5 tree and submit patches to you directly in the future.. 16:59 < th_> tsa: it was even at 2.4.18 here 16:59 < tsa> th_: hehe... 16:59 < clifford> huebi: ich werd jetzt nicht anfangen diverse libs auf meinem aschoen schlancken webserver zu installieren. Ich werd die files remote umwandeln (auch wenns umstaendlicher ist) 17:00 * fake is having a cigarette 17:00 < tsa> clifford: du hattest mit holyolli auf dem letzten ccc-congress mal ueber nen mirror (master?) der rock-linux seiten gesprochen.....ist das eigentlich noch aktuell? 17:00 -!- schirkaan [~bronko@p5085DB36.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:00 < esden> clifford: ad rsnc: jo mache ich so ... 17:00 < huebi> clifford: ok 17:01 < huebi> tsa: applied ;) 17:01 < th_> huebi: is committed 17:01 < clifford> tsa: so wie's aussieht wird der neue master mirror bei smp stehen (da wart' ich noch auf mail von ihm). Naeheres ist noch nicht ausgearbeitet .. 17:01 < tsa> huebi: ok... 17:01 < tsa> clifford: ok. 17:01 < esden> clifford: ad antwort: hmm dann schaenke ich dir dass hirn vom Pitr ;-) dar hat auch ein Human brain intarface .... dann brauchst nicht auf der tastatur tippen und kannst deine haende fuer andere sachen benutzen ;-) 17:02 < th_> huebi: ich war schneller ;) 17:02 < huebi> hehe 17:02 < tsa> falls gewuenscht, koennte ich wohl auch noch www2.rocklinux.de klarmachen... 17:02 * SMP waiting for harddiscs from huebi ;-O 17:02 < th_> SMP: naechste woche will ich dann cvs angehen... 17:02 < clifford> tsa: cool. 17:03 < esden> mirrors hat man nie zu wenige 17:03 < huebi> I have to clean up 2 of the for disks. I do that today and send them to you tomorrow 17:03 < SMP> huebi: ok, great 17:03 < SMP> I guess I won't be a the office this week anyway .. 17:04 < tsa> ich muss das nur kurz mit chef durchsprechen, sollte kein problem sein... 17:04 < tsa> ok.....feierabend. 17:04 < tsa> cu later. 17:04 -!- tsa [~tsa@sec-01.bi.devcon.net] has quit ("wech.") 17:04 < huebi> tsa: 5 ueberminuten tzz tzz 17:04 < clifford> SMP: btw - wie sieht's jetzt aus mit ftp master? 17:04 < clifford> huebi: streber. 17:05 < huebi> *ROFL* 17:05 < th_> 17:03:23 * SMP waiting for harddiscs from huebi ;-O 17:06 < SMP> clifford: ohh, hab ich mir noch fast keine Gedanken gemacht. ich hatte eher vor, naechste Woche oder so mich dazu zu aeussern. ich muss auch noch hier etwas abwarten und du klangst nicht so eilig 17:07 < clifford> SMP: ich hab's auch nicht eilig. 17:07 < clifford> hab' nur gefragt weil das thema angeschnitten wurde. 17:08 < SMP> ok 17:08 -!- blindy|away is now known as blindcoder 17:08 < blindcoder> hi 17:10 < esden> hi blindy 17:11 < blindcoder> esden> is it possible to rebuild SOME packages? I always get the following message: 17:11 < blindcoder> Found packages in rock-intel-1.5.14/ -> skipping building of packages! 17:12 < blindcoder> when executing ./scripts/Build-All COPY 17:12 < esden> move the directory away 17:12 < armijn> *sigh* 17:12 < esden> armijn: ??? 17:12 < armijn> why does *every* discussion between Pj and rxr end in a flamewar? 17:13 < blindcoder> esden> what directory? I only have the /rock-linux/rock-intel-1.5.14/base-pkgs where ALL built packages reside 17:13 < esden> armijn: dunno they do not like each other ? ... and Pj is a hardskull ? 17:14 < esden> mv rock-intel-1.5.14/ somewhere 17:14 < armijn> esden: Pj is not the easiest guy to work with, but he's good...and he darn well knows what he's talking about 17:14 < blindcoder> esden> doesn't he rebuld EVERYTHING then? 17:14 < armijn> esden: I strongly disagree with rxr about that the sf cvs should be blown up 17:14 < armijn> isn't ROCK about being able to build your own thing? 17:15 < esden> blindcoder: nope ... beside you delete all files in dist/var/adm/logs/ 17:15 < armijn> if not, we should rename it...to...SuSE! 17:15 < blindcoder> esden> your funny. afte a Build-ALl he deletes the whole dist directory 17:15 < blindcoder> s/your/you're/ 17:16 < esden> armijn: I disagree with blowing it up too ... (I wrote it in my mail) but it should be sestructured ... 17:16 < esden> haha 17:16 < esden> then you have to rebuild the whole system blindcoder 17:16 < esden> sorry 17:17 < esden> ask huebi what the right approach currently is to prevent it 17:17 < armijn> esden: why? isn't that up to Pjotr? 17:17 * -> esden eating ... 17:17 < blindcoder> no fucking way... I'd rather take apart Build-All and write a script that creates the chroot environment and build only the borken packages 17:17 < armijn> esden: I don't see why rxr is making such a fuzz... 17:18 < huebi> blindcoder just rm -rf rock-intel-1.5.14/ and restart the Build. 17:20 < huebi> blindcoder: did you touch _nodel_ ? 17:21 < blindcoder> huebi> but that means I have to rebuild EVERYTHING (rebuilding everything because of SIX packages?) 17:21 < blindcoder> yes I did 17:22 < armijn> blindcoder: there's an easier way 17:22 < armijn> blindcoder: remove the log files... 17:22 < huebi> blindcoder: I modified Build-ALL just to copy instead to move all Packages. Diskspace is not such a problem than a few years ago. Better mv rock-intel-1.5.14/ to rock-intel-1.5.14.save 17:22 < armijn> well, at least...that works if the build hasn't finished... 17:23 < fake> blindcoder: hi. 17:23 < fake> blindcoder: is your ftp up again? i want to continue leechin' mahoromatic ;) 17:23 < blindcoder> the log are removed by the Build-All script which - in fact - deletes the entire dist directory where the log-files reside 17:23 < blindcoder> fake> sure 17:24 < huebi> My problem was that the build finishes with a few broken packages and everything has been renamed and moved. So I chaged mv to cp 17:24 < fake> blindcoder: cool *g* 17:24 < blindcoder> or am I just mnissing something... I'll go and check that 17:24 < armijn> fake: Qt is a bitch 17:25 < armijn> fake: in fact, because it's all C++ and gcc is not too good at it for non IA-32 platforms, chances are it won't build at all 17:26 < snyke> wahhh 17:26 < snyke> *schwirr* 17:26 < fake> armijn: glibc still building ;) 17:26 < snyke> so viele puttys - komm spaeter wieder 17:26 < snyke> cu 'til l8er 17:27 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A6E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("[BX] Who ate my nuggets?!") 17:27 < armijn> fake: of course, that will take a few hours 17:28 < blindcoder> is it possible that there have to be TWO _nodel_ files? 17:29 < huebi> blindcoder: I do not want to use Cleanup anymore. It deleted too much by accident. 17:29 < blindcoder> huebi > yes, that's just the prolem I ahve... the _nodel_ is there but Cleanup deleted everything... 17:31 < huebi> hmm. That should never happen. I just forgot _nodel_ a few times. 17:31 < armijn> nodel works fine for me 17:32 < blindcoder> hmm maybe I really forget it, created it afterwards and forgot about it... well... another night compiling ;) 17:34 < huebi> Ok. I remove Cleanup from Build-All and other scripts if it's there and leave it in ./scripts for manual use. 17:35 -!- swe_deb [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:36 < swe_deb> re 17:36 -!- swe_deb is now known as anders 17:36 * blindcoder just found his mistake 17:37 < huebi> blindcoder: What did you do? 17:37 < blindcoder> I touched _nodel_ in /usr/src/rock-1.5.14 but executed ./scripts/Build-All COPY from /rock-linux >_< 17:37 < huebi> ahh, yes 17:37 < blindcoder> Layer 8 Problem ;) 17:38 < huebi> blindcoder: ?? 17:38 < blindcoder> (L)user error ;) 17:38 < armijn> PEBKAC! 17:38 < anders> *grin* 17:39 < huebi> The 8th layer in the network 17:39 < blindcoder> PEBKAC ?? 17:39 < armijn> Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair 17:39 < blindcoder> huebi> esden wlways says this if a user is doing something wrong 17:39 < huebi> :-)) 17:39 < blindcoder> *lol* 17:40 < armijn> anders: IBM.com? doing a rs6000 port? 17:40 < anders> armijn: uhm.. not quite... :) 17:40 < anders> armijn: I am working on a (secret) project... 17:41 < armijn> aaah, *that* project! 17:41 < fake> fake wants to know secret 17:41 < armijn> everyone I know seems to be working on the "secret" project 17:41 < fake> echo $secret 17:41 < net|netda> secret gameboy-port... 17:41 < anders> armijn: did you read the press release about IBM and HDD's ? 17:41 -!- net|netda is now known as netcrow 17:42 < armijn> anders: yeah, they're gonna ditch them... 17:42 < armijn> (I think) 17:42 < huebi> URL? 17:42 < armijn> but that's no secret 17:42 < anders> armijn: did you see the part about Hitachi licensing an IBM virtualisation product? 17:42 < armijn> anders: no. 17:43 < anders> ok, they will, and that's what I'm working on... 17:43 < anders> :) 17:43 < anders> still lots of hush-hush... 17:43 < fake> netcrow: psst.. don't tell them yet ;) 17:43 < armijn> anders: ehr, quite low level, right? 17:43 < anders> armijn: uhm, you could say that... 17:43 < fake> fake is happy to know secret ;) 17:43 < blindcoder> fake> do you get 1kb/sec? ;) 17:43 < fake> blindcoder: not sure, why? 17:44 < netcrow> fake: sorry, it` your project ;) 17:44 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has joined #rocklinux 17:44 < armijn> anders: low level is too...ehr...low for me :) 17:44 < Mike1> hi 17:44 < armijn> huebi https://money.cnn.com/2002/04/16/technology/bc.tech.ibm.hitachi.reut/index.htm 17:45 < huebi> armijn: Thank you 17:45 < blindcoder> fake> just wanteds to know... too lazy to look it up by myself ;) 17:46 < fake> me too ;) 17:46 < fake> 4.88 kB/s @ blindcoder 17:46 < armijn> anders: you could also do a rs6000 port... 17:46 < anders> armijn: if /me knew C, perhaps.. :) 17:46 * anders is no great coder.. 17:46 < Mike1> armijn nice patches 17:46 < armijn> anders: nah, you don't need that much C knowledge for porting ROCK 17:46 -!- netcrow is now known as net|eat 17:47 < armijn> mike1: yeah, well...that's just the beginning :) 17:47 < armijn> mike1: more interesting patches tomorrow 17:47 < Mike1> armijn yeah i will run them on the Ultra 5 at the office 17:47 * anders would like a Regatta to run Linux on... 17:47 < blindcoder> okay, recompiling. this time with the _nodel_ in the RIGHT place ;) 17:47 < Mike1> them i will go for the Blade at home 17:48 < clifford> Ad RS/6k port: It's already done and the stuff which don't work right now can't be done without C and GDB knowledge .. 17:48 < clifford> s/don't/doesn't/ .. /me needs some sleep .. :-) 17:48 < armijn> hmm...ok, another IBM port then ;) 17:48 < armijn> zSeries... 17:48 < Mike1> hi clifford how is ur arm doing? 17:49 < clifford> it's fine (I can type :-) 17:49 < Mike1> clifford great! 17:49 < armijn> mike1: wait for my newer patches before you start building 17:50 < anders> clifford: going to be careful around horses in future? :) 17:50 < Mike1> armijn i will just apply ur patches at the moment 17:50 < Mike1> and wait for the ones you will send tomorrow 17:50 < clifford> armijn: We have already the 'hercules' package - so you can start doing a zSeries port, if you want ... :-) 17:50 < armijn> mike1: good 17:50 < armijn> clifford: if you get me a zSeries machine 17:50 < term_emu> fuck 17:51 < armijn> first need to do PA-RISC 17:51 < clifford> armijn: hercules = s/390 emulater 17:51 < term_emu> mein vater rief grad aus mailand an... er sagte, dort sei ein flugzeug in ein hochaus geflogen 17:51 < armijn> clifford: does it run on sparc? 17:51 < term_emu> uebel.... 17:51 < clifford> armijn: I think so - but I only tried it on intel so far ... 17:52 < armijn> term_emu: plane crash? 17:52 < armijn> (where's mailand?) 17:52 < huebi> armijn: in the north of italy 17:53 < armijn> aah, milan 17:53 < huebi> armijn: exact 17:53 < term_emu> armijn: seems so 17:55 < anders> sep 11 copy? 17:55 < anders> or just an accident? 17:56 < fake> let's hope it's "just" an accident... 17:57 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50807A85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:57 < fake> hi hackbard ! 17:57 < hackbard> hi 17:57 < fake> you've got a mipsel right? 17:58 < hackbard> fake: cyber910 thast all i know by now :) 17:58 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@212.116.24.1] has joined #rocklinux 17:58 < bluefire> Moin 17:58 < fake> should be little endian 17:58 < hackbard> hi bluefire 17:58 < hackbard> fake: okay, then i have to download the other kernelimage and nfsroot :.. 17:58 < armijn> hackbard has no mipsel, but mips 17:58 < fake> hackbard then you will have to do a mipsel port all by yourself 17:59 < hackbard> i took mips 17:59 < armijn> hackbard: the indigo right? 17:59 < armijn> that's mips 17:59 < armijn> not mipsel 17:59 < armijn> and currently unsupported by Linux. 17:59 < th_> n24 17:59 < fake> cyber910? = indigo2? 17:59 < th_> just very short mentioning 17:59 < armijn> hackbard: you got another mips machine? 17:59 < Mike1> hi hackbard 17:59 < armijn> fake: hackbard has an indigo, not indigo2 18:00 < armijn> fake: biiiiiig difference 18:00 < fake> armijn oh, okay 18:00 < fake> armijn i know ;) 18:00 < armijn> indigo is r3000 18:00 < hackbard> ur all too fast for me :p 18:00 < hackbard> i just shut up :) 18:00 < armijn> hackbard: good :) 18:01 < huebi> Please ignore This line. It's just to raise my stats. :-)) 18:01 < armijn> huebi! 18:01 < armijn> shut up! 18:02 < huebi> *LOL* 18:02 < Mike1> huebi are there any mirrors for 1.5.14? 18:02 < clifford> .. i could post a full copy of the logs for my current build .. 18:02 < clifford> .. that should make me #1 in the stats .. 18:03 < armijn> clifford: then you will be kicked for flooding 18:03 < huebi> Mike1: Not yet, i'm now planning my time 18:03 < huebi> for the nest weeks 18:04 < fake> <-- going to get some food 18:04 < fake> or something 18:04 < fake> cya later 18:04 < term_emu> news 18:04 < huebi> fake <- The big hunter 18:04 < armijn> bye fake 18:04 < huebi> by fake 18:04 < term_emu> passagierflugzeug 18:04 < Mike1> huebi ok please let me know 18:05 < huebi> Mike1: Yes, of course. At first here in this channel ;) 18:05 < armijn> "Live, on #rocklinux" 18:07 < armijn> Small Piper plane hits skyscraper in Milan, Italy, setting top floors on fire, 18:07 < armijn> according to news agencies. Details soon. 18:07 < armijn> according to CNN 18:11 < blindcoder> BCL 18:12 < huebi> armijn: URL 18:12 < huebi> ? 18:12 < armijn> europe.cnn.com 18:12 < huebi> Ahh, I found it 18:13 < huebi> https://www.reuters.com/ 18:15 < armijn> hmm 18:16 < esden> re 18:16 * clifford finished *.gif => *.png ... 18:16 < esden> puhh ... now I need something to drink ;-) 18:16 < th_> good 18:17 < huebi> clifford: kool, great, super ! 18:17 < clifford> fixed 3182 html files because 38 gifs are now pngs ... 18:17 < th_> we have 3182 html files? 18:18 < esden> th_: I was also shocked as I heard it the first time ;-) 18:18 < clifford> yes. 18:18 < huebi> We need more files to be as unsearchable as microsoft.com. :-) 18:19 < esden> lol 18:19 < th_> do these 3182 files have a URL? ;) 18:19 < clifford> most of it is the mailing list archive (2385)/ 18:19 < th_> ahh 18:19 < th_> ok 18:19 < clifford> th_: yes. 18:20 < clifford> 635 are the package descriptions. 18:20 < th_> ahhh 18:21 < th_> n24 18:21 < clifford> so the homepage is only 162 html files .. :-) 18:21 < th_> bilder aus italien 18:21 < term_emu> uebel 18:21 < huebi> th_: URL? 18:21 < armijn> hmm...what's n24? 18:21 < th_> bttv://n24 18:21 < term_emu> das war sicher kein unfall... das ist der einzige wolkenkratzer in mailand 18:21 < th_> CNN as well 18:22 < th_> same picture 18:22 < th_> n24 speaks of terrorist acts 18:22 < term_emu> sure 18:22 < armijn> no pictures on CNN here (no TV, just web) 18:23 < esden> who needs tv ? when you have web ? 18:23 < esden> and a DVD drive ;-) 18:23 < huebi> *LOOOOL* CNN is still living in the stone age. For them Yugoslavia still exits. 18:23 < armijn> esden: well...haven't seen pictures yet... 18:23 < armijn> huebi: but it does... 18:24 < armijn> huebi: it's just been renamed :) 18:24 < esden> loool 18:24 < armijn> huebi: you can see croatia, etc. 18:24 < huebi> But better than last time 18:25 < huebi> Hungary was in switzerland ;-)))) 18:25 < armijn> hmm 18:25 < armijn> but it is! 18:25 < armijn> right? 18:25 < huebi> ARRG! 18:25 < armijn> at least they got it correct that it's next to austria 18:25 < armijn> :) 18:25 < clifford> www.clifford.at/funpic/cnn_europe.jpg 18:25 * SMP playing Rick Dangerous (xrick) 18:26 < armijn> clifford: ehr. 18:26 < huebi> clifford: YES, thats what I meant 18:26 < SMP> anyone know a Boulder Dash clone for X? 18:26 < clifford> huebi: let's hope they have better maps of afghanistan .. 18:27 < armijn> well, the czech republic and switzerland do look like each other... 18:27 < armijn> the shape I mean... 18:27 < clifford> armijn: what? 18:27 < armijn> ehr... 18:27 < armijn> hmm :) 18:27 < huebi> *LOOOOOOL* 18:28 < armijn> you know that "lol" means "fun" in Dutch? 18:28 < huebi> no, but thats interesting. 18:28 < clifford> armijn: however - they have removed austria! 18:28 < armijn> clifford: of course! 18:29 < huebi> *abkackundvomstuhlfall* 18:29 < armijn> I would do that... 18:29 < clifford> but maybe they removed the netherlands and just MOVED austria! 18:30 < armijn> nah, it's easier to just flood the netherlands, instead of removing it 18:30 * -> esden is loughing and rolling under the table 18:30 < huebi> esden: me too, me too 18:31 < SMP> CCN can't flood the netherlands. according to their picture that's where the Alpen mountains are, no? 18:31 < SMP> CNN that is 18:31 < armijn> luckily the Alps aren't here... 18:32 < armijn> oh boy, just imagining what it must be like to climb to school everyday 18:33 < SMP> armijn: or slide down a rope, depending on ... 18:33 < SMP> ;> 18:33 < huebi> armijn: Eiger Nordwand in 4h.. 18:35 < armijn> brrr 18:35 < huebi> cu later. "Feia_abnd!" 18:35 < huebi> ;) 18:35 < armijn> still no pictures 18:35 < armijn> bye huebi 18:35 < armijn> apply my pathces! 18:35 < armijn> ehr, patches 18:40 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@212.116.24.1] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18:45 * armijn off 18:45 < armijn> cu 18:45 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 18:48 * Mike1 out 18:48 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has quit ("[BX] Oral sex makes your day") 18:49 -!- net|eat [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 19:07 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy|away 19:11 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BDCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:11 < tsa> hi again 19:14 < clifford> I have to go now (the club opens at 20:00 CET) 19:14 < tsa> have fun, clifford 19:15 < clifford> tsa: .. I have to work there. :-) 19:15 < tsa> oh...ok. 19:15 * clifford is working as DJ .. 19:16 < clifford> cu 19:16 -!- clifford [~clifford@M102P005.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit ("Client Exiting") 19:18 < anders> night night.. 19:18 -!- anders [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit ("Nice to see you, to see you...") 19:21 -!- blindy|away is now known as blindcoder 19:32 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:33 < netcrow> hi 19:33 < netcrow> huebi: da? 19:33 < blindcoder> re netcrow 19:33 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has joined #rocklinux 19:34 < Mike1> re 19:36 < esden> test 19:37 < rxr> Mike1: I currently try to get the gcc-3.1-pre on your sparc running - although it needs some fixing to build ... 19:38 * -> esden waiting for the next cron cycle ... 19:38 * blindcoder is out of desktops >_< 19:39 < Mike1> rxr nice is there anything that you need/want me to install on it? 19:39 < esden> blindcoder: open new screens 19:40 < blindcoder> esden> you know... I have now 2 Monitors on 6 Desktops with about 10 xterms and a scren in each and every one of them... 19:40 < tsa> huebi: awake? 19:40 < blindcoder> i think I'll add some desktops to my icewm and restart it :D 19:41 < esden> blindcoder: do it 19:41 < rxr> Mike1: no thanks! It only needs some hacking: currently it fails with /usr/bin/ld: cannot open /usr/lib64/crti.o: No such file or directory. I'll investigate this lateer 19:41 < tsa> rxr? 19:42 < Mike1> rxr BTW sorry for the reset earlier i had to move my station to another room 19:42 < tsa> did you already upgrade libxslt in your patches? 19:42 < Mike1> hi tsa 19:42 < blindcoder> soo... 3 new desktops filled wi 3 xterm ;) 19:42 < tsa> hi Mike1 19:43 < blindcoder> esden> I'm going to handle my mail and news locally... taking both off apollo 19:43 < esden> ok ... 19:43 * -> esden moving irclogs & ircstat off apollo 19:44 < netcrow> why that? 19:44 < blindcoder> QoS works just fine but I hate having these small delays that are still there... 19:45 < rxr> tsa: Yes - it got even applied by Cliff today ;-) 19:45 * tsa running scripts/Update-Src -all 19:45 * rxr puzzled reading armijn's mail - he really doesn't know the sf ext-config ... ? :-( 19:45 < esden> netcrow: wee the cron is running 19:46 < esden> netcrow: I have to ... traffic ... you know ? 19:47 < rxr> tsa: there is no new snapshot yet ... 19:47 < tsa> rxr: 19:47 < tsa> [D] 3163993145 libxslt-1.0.15.tar.gz ftp://xmlsoft.org/ 19:47 < tsa> i know... 19:47 * rxr buying foods ... 19:48 < tsa> anyway....1.0.16 builds without problems. 19:48 < rxr> tsa: yes 19:48 * tsa wants a new snap 19:48 < rxr> and Cliff applied the patch already there is simply no new snap yet :-( 19:48 * rxr way 19:49 < esden> ircstats moved to : https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/ircstat/ 19:49 < netcrow> esden: hm...the connection of user is rising higher...and so...the download more? 19:49 < esden> irclogs moved to : https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/irclogs 19:50 < esden> irclog moved to : https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/irclog 19:51 < th_> should be linked somewhere on the homepage. 19:51 < esden> yes that is why I moved it 19:51 < esden> cuz I can not carry the traffic 19:51 < netcrow> esden: 2 Gb in a half month is much? 19:52 < esden> definitly yes 19:52 < tsa> esden: how muc do you have to pay per gb? 19:53 < tsa> +h 19:53 < esden> not me but my club ... 19:54 < esden> and I get problems if I produce too much 19:54 < tsa> understandable.. 19:54 < tsa> https://www.dnn-online.de/ratgeber/ratgeber_fotos/logo_doc_esden.gif 19:54 < tsa> *lach* 19:55 < blindcoder> *LOOOOOOL* 19:56 < tsa> hm... 19:56 < tsa> according to images.google.com, this is me: https://www.si.edu/opa/latino/tsa.gif 19:56 < tsa> interesting.. 19:56 < netcrow> hm, if i had a gratis provider who give me a shellaccount, then i will move my domain ;) 19:57 * tsa feeling kinda ...strange. 19:58 * tsa using images.google.com with nicks from here and laughing my ass off... 19:59 < netcrow> hehe 19:59 < tsa> wanna see hackbard? 19:59 < tsa> https://www.d200.mchenry.k12.il.us/test/graphics/photos2/hackbart.gif 19:59 < tsa> *giggle* 20:01 < tsa> huebi changed a lot, too.... https://www.praterinsel.org/people/huebner/images/huebi_maske.gif 20:02 < tsa> https://www.transportation.ucla.edu/cguide/Clifford.JPG 20:03 < hackbard> :) 20:03 < esden> lool 20:04 * SMP hopes he looks like a 24-way SGI PowerChallenge, not like 2-way Intel crap ;> 20:06 -!- thalerim [~be@pD9E49CC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:06 < thalerim> hi 20:06 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("schlafen") 20:08 < Mike1> hi thalerim 20:08 < thalerim> hi Mike1 20:15 < Mike1> hackbard you here? 20:16 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has quit ("BitchX-1.0c18: just when you thought it couldn't get any better") 20:29 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy|away 20:31 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-195.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20:35 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-171-28.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:51 < esden> https://totl.net/Eunuch/index.html 20:52 < thalerim> rxr: https://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ <- wäre das net ein package wert? 20:53 < esden> *surf* 20:54 < rxr> thalerim: jo! Look nice ;-) 20:54 < esden> ahh sure I know this 20:54 < esden> if you want to package it do it 20:54 < thalerim> hm.. don't know how 20:55 < esden> I will install blackbox and evilwm on my laptop 20:55 < rxr> thalerim: I can package it (into extra1 ?) ... 20:55 < esden> then I will decide which one of the windowmanagers I have tested and/or used will be packaged 20:56 < thalerim> rxr: what's the difference betwenn extra1 and extra2 ? 20:56 < esden> then rxr get,s a patch ;-) 20:56 < rxr> extra1 is suff maintained by me - extra2 is Cliffs stuff ;-) 20:57 < rxr> This is also documented in the HACKING HOWTO ... 20:57 < esden> or I will request extra3 ;-) 20:57 < rxr> Sure do this ;-) 20:57 < esden> yess I have many packets I want to have in rock ... that are not packaged yet 20:57 < esden> and blindy|away too 20:58 < esden> so we will have a respository together 20:58 < esden> we see each other every day in the train 20:58 < esden> and on the weekend in the pub ;-) 20:58 < rxr> a real Irish pub? 20:58 < esden> wget laptop 20:59 < esden> Shamrock 20:59 < thalerim> rxr: i have not had time to read it yet 20:59 < esden> yes that is an Irish pub 20:59 < rxr> thalerim: I just compile it - does it run on your box allready? 21:00 < thalerim> i have only downloaded 21:00 < thalerim> will compile it tomorrow 21:02 < tsa> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 23. Please read the curl manpage. 21:02 < tsa> *sigh* getting just a stupid number is like windows. 21:03 < esden> we have to alter the scripts so that you get intelligent answers ... 21:03 < rxr> thalerim: it is running here, now ;-) 21:04 < esden> rxr: do we already have blackbox in our packages ? 21:04 < esden> and evilwm ? 21:05 < esden> and icewm? 21:05 < rxr> I have it in dRock - I think I already merged it ... 21:05 < rxr> icewm, yes - evilwm, no 21:05 -!- Mike [~mike@196.40.44.43] has joined #rocklinux 21:05 < Mike> re 21:05 < esden> ahh ok so I will install evilwm on my laptop ;-) 21:07 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50807A85.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 21:09 < rxr> does s.o. here know why the Alt key doesn't work in a xterm over telnet? 21:10 < rxr> it works in an aterm - but not in an xterm ... ? 21:10 < huebi> rxr: termcap? 21:11 < rxr> huebi: how to fix? 21:11 < huebi> I dont't know 21:11 < rxr> huebi: does it work on one of your boxes? 21:12 -!- blindy|away is now known as blindcoder 21:13 < blindcoder> esden> okay, I won't move my mail from apollo to rs42 >_> 21:13 < blindcoder> something doe not work... and I'm really lazy by now ;) 21:23 < thalerim> urgs 21:24 < thalerim> in a couple of the script is absolutly nonsense 21:24 < thalerim> *scripts 21:27 * thalerim is listening to Creed - who's got my back 21:27 < huebi> _____ _ ___ 21:27 < huebi> | ____|___ __| | ___ _ __ |__ \ 21:27 < huebi> | _| / __|/ _` |/ _ \ '_ \ / / 21:27 < huebi> | |___\__ \ (_| | __/ | | | |_| 21:27 < huebi> |_____|___/\__,_|\___|_| |_| (_) 21:27 < huebi> 21:27 < huebi> where did yuo put the stats? 21:28 < thalerim> lol 21:28 < blindcoder> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/ircstat/ 21:28 < thalerim> huebi: did you this with a kind of `banner'? 21:28 < thalerim> or with your own hand 21:31 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/figlet22.tar.gz <- Not so easy to find. Will be my first extension. 21:35 < thalerim> heh, cool 21:38 -!- thalerim [~be@pD9E49CC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ich kämpfe um den Frieden, indem ich nicht kämpfe. (I fight for peace by not fighting)") 21:39 < esden> yo 21:39 < esden> sorry I was testing evilwm 21:40 < huebi> _ _ ___ 21:40 < huebi> _____ _(_) |_ ___ __ ___ |__ \ 21:40 < huebi> / _ \ \ / / | \ \ /\ / / '_ ` _ \ / / 21:40 < huebi> | __/\ V /| | |\ V V /| | | | | | |_| 21:40 < huebi> \___| \_/ |_|_| \_/\_/ |_| |_| |_| (_) 21:40 < huebi> 21:41 < huebi> ___ _ _ 21:41 < huebi> |_ _| | |_ ___ ___| |_ 21:41 < huebi> | | | __/ _ \/ __| __| 21:41 < huebi> | | | || __/\__ \ |_ 21:41 < huebi> |___| \__\___||___/\__| 21:41 < huebi> 21:41 < huebi> __ _ _ _ 21:41 < huebi> / _(_) __ _| | ___| |_ 21:41 < huebi> | |_| |/ _` | |/ _ \ __| 21:41 < huebi> | _| | (_| | | __/ |_ 21:41 < huebi> |_| |_|\__, |_|\___|\__| 21:41 < huebi> |___/ 21:41 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/figlet22.tar.gz 21:41 < Mike> huebi are you having fun? 21:42 < huebi> Yes, biiig fun 21:42 < tsa> hehehe 21:43 < tsa> huebi: you're just trying to cheat with the stats, aren't you? ;-) 21:43 < Mike> tsa of course he is 21:43 < Mike> :P 21:43 < huebi> _ _ 21:43 < huebi> | \ | | ___ 21:43 < huebi> | \| |/ _ \ 21:43 < huebi> | |\ | (_) | 21:43 < huebi> |_| \_|\___/ 21:43 < huebi> 21:43 < tsa> LOL 21:44 < esden> ok ... mail sent to the mailinglist saying where the stuff went ... 21:44 < Mike> esden gut 21:44 < huebi> esden: Not nessesary. Everybody _hered_ it ;))) 21:44 -!- anders [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:44 < huebi> +a 21:45 < huebi> hi anders 21:45 < anders> hello again.. :) 21:45 < huebi> do you know figlet 21:45 * anders waiting for build to complete... 21:45 < huebi> hehe 21:45 < anders> figlet? nope.. 21:45 < anders> what is it? 21:45 < huebi> __ _ _ _ ___ 21:45 < huebi> / _(_) __ _| | ___| |_ |__ \ 21:45 < huebi> | |_| |/ _` | |/ _ \ __| / / 21:45 < huebi> | _| | (_| | | __/ |_ |_| 21:45 < huebi> |_| |_|\__, |_|\___|\__| (_) 21:45 < huebi> |___/ 21:45 < anders> *grin* 21:45 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/figlet22.tar.gz 21:46 < huebi> _ 21:46 < huebi> __/\__ __ _ _ __(_)_ __ __/\__ 21:46 < huebi> \ // _` | '__| | '_ \\ / 21:46 < huebi> /_ _\ (_| | | | | | | /_ _\ 21:46 < huebi> \/ \__, |_| |_|_| |_| \/ 21:46 < huebi> |___/ 21:46 < anders> is it a text -> ascii art thingy? 21:47 < huebi> I don't raise my stats, I just make an field test of figlet :-) 21:47 < anders> hehehehe 21:47 < anders> sure.. :) 21:47 < huebi> anders: smal test -> BIG text 21:47 < huebi> s/s/x/ 21:47 < huebi> +l 21:48 -!- Mike [~mike@196.40.44.43] has quit ("BitchX: its shagadellic, baby!") 21:52 < esden> huebi hast jetzt getug getestet ... 21:52 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-171-28.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21:52 < huebi> esden: Habe ich Dich etwa ueberholt? 21:53 < huebi> esden: OK 21:53 < esden> nein aber .... naja ... es reicht ... 21:53 < esden> ich habe kein prob wenn du mich ueberholst ... 21:53 < huebi> JO. Hast absolut recht ;) 21:53 < esden> ich rede eh zu viel .. 21:54 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has joined #rocklinux 21:54 < Mike1> re 21:54 < esden> hehe wenigstens ab und zu gibt mir jemand recht ;-) 21:55 < esden> re Mike1 21:55 < Mike1> | \/ (_) | _____ | |_ ___ ___| |_(_)_ __ __ _ | |\/| | | |/ / _ \ | __/ _ \/ __| __| | '_ \ / _` | | | | | | < __/ | || __/\__ \ |_| | | | | (_| | |_| |_|_|_|\_\___| \__\___||___/\__|_|_| |_|\__, | |___/ 21:56 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has quit (Client Quit) 21:56 -!- rxr [~rene@port-213-20-128-153.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:57 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has joined #rocklinux 21:58 < huebi> Mike1: hehe 21:58 < term_emu> n8 21:58 -!- term_emu [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has quit ("zz") 21:59 < Mike1> yo huebi 21:59 < Mike1> huebi figlet is fun thanks 21:59 < huebi> pleasure 22:02 < esden> evilwm rulez 22:02 < huebi> esden: This is the super small one? 800k in memory? 22:03 -!- anders [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit ("night night") 22:04 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 22:04 < jonath[an]> hi 22:04 < huebi> _ _ _ _ 22:04 < huebi> | | | (_) | | 22:04 < huebi> | |_| | | | | 22:04 < huebi> | _ | | |_| 22:04 < huebi> |_| |_|_| (_) 22:04 < huebi> 22:05 < huebi> jonath[an]: figlet rules! 22:05 < jonath[an]> \|/ ____ \|/ 22:05 < jonath[an]> "@'/ ,. \`@" 22:05 < jonath[an]> /_| \__/ |_\ 22:05 < jonath[an]> \__U_/ 22:05 < jonath[an]> sure 22:05 < jonath[an]> :) 22:06 < huebi> jonath[an]: /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/kernel/traps.c hehe 22:06 -!- tfing [~GD@APoitiers-103-1-3-57.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #rocklinux 22:06 < tfing> hi 22:06 < huebi> tsa: hi 22:06 < huebi> ups 22:06 < huebi> hi tfing 22:07 < jonath[an]> sure huebi, there is one 22:07 -!- jonath[an] is now known as tan[away] 22:08 < huebi> cowsay is also kool! 22:08 < huebi> _______ 22:08 < huebi> < kool! > 22:08 < huebi> ------- 22:08 < huebi> \ ^__^ 22:08 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______ 22:08 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 22:08 < huebi> ||----w | 22:08 < huebi> || || 22:08 < huebi> 22:09 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/cowsay_3.03.orig.tar.gz 22:10 < esden> re hi all 22:10 * -> esden is chatting in xterm opened in evilwm ;-) 22:11 * tan[away] is chatting behind a icewm ;-) 22:11 < esden> and huebi ... I do not want to know what you were smoking 22:12 < esden> tan[away]: that was what I used before evilwm ;-) 22:13 < huebi> ____________________________ 22:13 < huebi> ( Does huebi smoke my grass? ) 22:13 < huebi> ---------------------------- 22:13 < huebi> o ^__^ 22:13 < huebi> o (oo)\_______ 22:13 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 22:13 < huebi> ||----w | 22:13 < huebi> || || 22:13 < huebi> 22:13 < esden> ahh my mail arrived in the mailisglist ... 22:13 < esden> yes cow definitely 22:14 * tan[away] started a new WM download 22:14 < esden> ;-) 22:15 -!- thalerim [~be@pD9E49CC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:15 < thalerim> re 22:15 < huebi> ___________________ 22:15 < huebi> ( Oh no! He doesn't ) 22:15 < huebi> ------------------- 22:15 < huebi> o ^__^ 22:15 < huebi> o (><)\_______ 22:15 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 22:16 < huebi> U ||----w | 22:16 < huebi> || || 22:16 < huebi> 22:16 < huebi> Nice Cows. I like them 22:17 * tan[away] is compiling evilwm 22:17 < thalerim> cow? i see a horse 22:17 < esden> ohh mann ... tztztz 22:18 < tfing> thalerim: horse don't have 'w' 22:18 < tfing> :) 22:18 < Mike1> huebi i guess yu are now raked #1 in the ircstats 22:19 < huebi> _________________________________________ 22:19 < huebi> ( I don't think that huebi is on the top ) 22:19 < huebi> ( of the stats. We'll see at next update. ) 22:19 < huebi> ----------------------------------------- 22:19 < huebi> o ^__^ 22:20 < huebi> o (oo)\_______ 22:20 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 22:20 < huebi> ||----w | 22:20 < huebi> || || 22:20 < huebi> 22:20 < thalerim> ... 22:20 < rxr> huebi: is this realy necessary ? 22:20 < esden> thanks rxr ... 22:20 < huebi> no not at all. I stop now 22:20 < huebi> :-) 22:20 < esden> thankyou huebi ;-) 22:21 < thalerim> yo, cuz he is on the top now :D 22:21 < rxr> huebi: if you wanna be #1 in the stats even posting your ChangeLog might be more informative ;-) 22:22 < esden> yes ... 22:22 < esden> definitly 22:23 * rxr really wonder how irsii can be used in a xterm if Atl doesn't work ... ? 22:23 < thalerim> i like the huebi's figures (it shows me how he looks) 22:23 < thalerim> :) 22:23 < tan[away]> ;) 22:23 < huebi> rxr: ESC also works :-) 22:24 < rxr> huebi: ah! Right. Thanks. Now screen runs in a Anti-aliased Xterm ;-) 22:25 < huebi> rxr: kool 22:25 < esden> huh ... 22:25 < rxr> running irsii in screen on a remote host was a really kool idea ;-) 22:25 * thalerim is listening to KoRn - arizona 22:25 < esden> rxr: sure it is ... ;-) 22:26 < rxr> Mike1: your U5 is stil crunching the gcc-3.1.x ... 22:26 < blindcoder> oyasumi nasai mina-san! 22:27 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy|sleep 22:27 < thalerim> erm 22:27 < thalerim> ho chresim' eidos, uch ho poll' eidos sophos 22:27 < huebi> blindy|sleep <- Hat jetzt bestimmt einen Japanischen Virus 22:28 < Mike1> rxr mmm i see 22:28 < esden> my alpha is also still crunching on rock packets ... and i suppos she will do it next several days ... 22:28 < esden> huebi: no ... he is lerning volantary Jayanese ... 22:28 < thalerim> Uk estin udeis, hostis uch hauto philos 22:28 < esden> I mean Japanese 22:29 < thalerim> <- loves old greek 22:29 < esden> thalerim: ... I prefer gopher ... algol or so ... 22:30 < thalerim> mh? 22:30 < thalerim> wtf 22:31 < thalerim> huebi: when will i get a small account on your ftpd to upload a couple of songs? 22:37 < huebi> moment.. 22:37 < huebi> I'm woring on it 22:37 < huebi> +k 22:37 < tsa> "a couple of" ;-) 22:38 < huebi> tsa: ? 22:38 < thalerim> tsa: a couple of you will never have ;-P 22:38 < tsa> "a couple of" = 1GB-1TB ? ;-) 22:39 < tsa> thalerim: hehe 22:39 < thalerim> no, just the new unreleased album of KoRn 22:39 < tsa> thalerim: ah, i see. 22:42 < tsa> i wonder what would happen if you added mp3's to sf cvs... 22:43 < huebi> cvs ci -kb ;) 22:43 < huebi> nothing except empty diskspace goes down. 22:44 < tsa> hm...i think they would be removed soon.. 22:46 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9E11834.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:46 < Be-El> hi ppl 22:46 < tsa> moin Be-El 22:47 < rxr> huebi: Mike1: Who load is the U5? 22:47 < tsa> .oO( parse error ) 22:47 < esden> thalerim: I want it tooo 22:47 < thalerim> esden :P 22:47 < thalerim> it's illegal to copy it 22:47 < thalerim> hrhr 22:48 < thalerim> huebi invaded a bank already so... 22:48 < rxr> s/load/loud/ ;-) 22:48 < esden> yes sure but that will not stop us ;-) 22:48 < Mike1> rxr i don't understand your question 22:48 < rxr> it included a typos ;-) How noisy is it? ;-) 22:48 < tsa> aaaah! 22:48 < tsa> ;) 22:49 < tsa> should be pretty quiet, i guess. 22:49 < esden> Cksum ERROR: download/x11/sylpheed/sylpheed-0.7.4.tar.bz2.cksum-err 22:49 < esden> urgh rxr what is going on there ? 22:50 < esden> there are tons of Cksum ERROR's 22:50 < Mike1> esden i got 34 cksum-errs 22:50 < thalerim> esden: you may get a read-only account on huebis ftp.. 22:50 < esden> hmm ... mom 22:50 < Mike1> most of them from x11 packages 22:50 < huebi> thalerim: ftp rocklinux.dyndns.org:/upload 22:51 < rxr> chksum errors in 1.7 or 1.5 ? 22:51 < thalerim> huebi: anonymous/anonymous? 22:51 < huebi> thalerim: ok 22:51 < huebi> i mean Yes 22:52 < Mike1> rxr 1.7 22:52 < thalerim> i wondered already :) 22:52 < esden> alpha:/usr/local/data/1.7/rock-src-1.7.0-DEV-200204161451# find . -name "*.cksum-err" | wc -l 22:52 < esden> 43 22:52 < esden> alpha:/usr/local/data/1.7/rock-src-1.7.0-DEV-200204161451# 22:52 < tsa> huebi: i guess you won't get too much of your bandwith in the next hours... ;-) 22:52 < rxr> Mike1: could you cut'n paste them into a query channel?? 22:53 < esden> ahh ok I have multiples here ... 22:53 < Mike1> rxr i'm using bitchx can cut/past 22:53 < Mike1> past/paste 22:53 < huebi> rxr: tsa upstream is a litte bit critical but not down stream 22:53 < tsa> huebi: hehe ;) 22:53 < Mike1> rxr i already sent a mail to clifford about it, maybe i should sent the mail to you or the list 22:53 < huebi> root@ella:~# df -h 22:54 < huebi> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on 22:54 < huebi> /dev/datavg/datengrab 22:54 < huebi> 298G 163G 135G 55% /home 22:54 < thalerim> tsa: don't be jealous :P 22:54 < esden> no no multiples ... 22:54 < tsa> thalerim: hehehe.... 22:54 < esden> I have exactly 43 cksum-err's 22:54 < rxr> Mike1: then a copy of the mail would be nice ... 22:54 < tsa> huebi: hm....lvm. 22:54 < huebi> thalerim: Fill it up ;-)) 22:55 * Mike1 mailing rxr 22:55 < tsa> huebi: how many disks are this? 22:55 < tsa> 3x 100gb ide? 22:55 < esden> huebi: don't you have a little too much free space on your harddrives ? 22:55 < huebi> 4x MAXTOR 4K080H4 22:55 < thalerim> no 22:56 < thalerim> it's just right 22:56 < thalerim> :D 22:56 < Mike1> rxr in your home dir at my U5 there is a file named errors 22:56 < esden> some people have too much money ... 22:57 < huebi> Well, before 18C3 I had a big space problem. Then I bought a bigger Tape drive ;) 22:57 < huebi> Now the disks are empty again. 22:58 < thalerim> okay it's uploading 22:58 < huebi> thalerim: great 22:59 -!- praenti_away is now known as praenti 22:59 < thalerim> so and now i am etsting a game 22:59 < thalerim> brb 22:59 -!- thalerim is now known as thAlerim 22:59 * praenti reading scrollback 23:00 < rxr> Mike1: currently the 3rd try to compile the gcc-3.1 is running ;-) (This time the C compiler only ...) 23:00 < huebi> __________________________ 23:00 < huebi> ( Praenti is wondering :-) ) 23:00 < huebi> -------------------------- 23:00 < huebi> o ^__^ 23:00 < huebi> o (oo)\_______ 23:00 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 23:00 < huebi> ||----w | 23:00 < huebi> || || 23:00 < huebi> 23:01 < tfing> huebi: you are already on top of the stats ;p 23:02 < rxr> Mike1: the route to your box is dead ... :-( 23:03 < praenti> huebi: is saw it ;-) and downloading your URL 23:03 < huebi> koole Kuehe ;-) 23:03 < huebi> kool cows 23:03 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:03 < praenti> is something interesting discussed here? because i want to go to bed. health-problems :-( 23:04 < huebi> There is also man cowsay 23:04 < praenti> and the scrollback is very long... 23:04 < huebi> praenti: when did you leave? 23:05 < praenti> huebi: about 16:00 23:05 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.43] has joined #rocklinux 23:05 < tsa> curl is stupid. 23:05 < Mike1> re 23:05 < praenti> hi Miek1 23:05 < huebi> hmm. I left at 18:40 23:05 < Mike1> hello praenti 23:05 < praenti> s/Miek1/Mike1 23:05 < tsa> Downloading download/base/rfc/RFCs0001-0500.tar.gz ... 23:05 < tsa> curl: (7) Couldn't connect to host 23:05 < tsa> but 23:05 < tsa> [tsa@azathoth ~]$ ncftp ftp.rfc-editor.org 23:06 < tsa> Logged in to ftp.rfc-editor.org. 23:06 < tsa> *sigh* 23:06 < huebi> Why is curl used in 1.7? 23:06 < tsa> huebi: i have no idea. curl sucks. 23:06 < huebi> wget works really well in 1.5 23:06 < Mike1> rxr mail sent 23:06 < tsa> erm....i mean it doesn't suck. if it would suck the things i want, i'd be happy.. 23:07 < rxr> tsa: I guess cleaner code, better firewall support, ... 23:07 * praenti going to bed and hoping not be ill tomorrow 23:07 < praenti> cya 23:07 < tsa> rxr: but it actually does not work. 23:08 < Mike1> bye praenti 23:08 < rxr> tsa: I works well here ... 23:08 -!- praenti is now known as praenti_ZzZz 23:08 < tsa> rxr: with the rfc package? 23:08 < rxr> Mike1: this are mostly packages updated by me - I used the Create-Cksum-Patch to get these numbers - maybe it is broken ... 23:09 < Mike1> mmm rxr what should i do 23:10 < rxr> use mmv to move the *.ckksumerror files to * ... 23:10 < tsa> rxr: just try scripts/Download -package rfc and see what happens. 23:10 < rxr> Downloading download/base/rfc/RFCs3001-latest.tar.gz ... 23:10 < rxr> INFO: Found src/Download-Mirror: none (use the original download locations) 23:10 < rxr> INFO: To force a new mirror auto-detection, remove src/Download-Mirror. 23:10 < rxr> Finished downloading 3220919 bytes in 30.469 seconds (105711.346 bytes/sec). 0% 23:10 < rxr> gzip->bzip2 + cksum-test: download/base/rfc/RFCs3001-latest.tar.gz 23:10 < tsa> wtf? 23:10 < rxr> Downloading download/base/rfc/RFCs0001-0500.tar.gz ... 23:10 < rxr> ##### 7.9% 23:10 < tsa> which curl version? 23:11 < tsa> curl 7.9.4 1.7.0-DEV-200202271811 23:11 < rxr> rene@jackson:~ > curl --version 23:11 < rxr> curl 7.9.2 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl 7.9.2 (OpenSSL 0.9.6c) (ipv6 enabled) 23:11 < tsa> hm.. 23:11 < rxr> and you have? 23:11 < tsa> 7.9.4 23:11 * tsa building 7.9.5 23:12 < rxr> ;-) 23:12 * Mike1 running 7.9.6 23:13 < tsa> Mike1: hm...make a patch for the desc file, submit it to the list.. 23:13 < thAlerim> huebi: erste datei sit oben 23:13 < thAlerim> das lied is net so gut 23:13 < thAlerim> +aber 23:13 < Mike1> tsa ok 23:13 < tsa> curl: (7) Couldn't connect to host 23:13 < tsa> 7.9.5 broken. 23:14 < tsa> or something else here. 23:14 < huebi> thAlerim: thank you! 23:14 * tsa setting fire on `hostname` 23:14 < thAlerim> mh. huebi: your pc will be on during the night? 23:16 * Mike1 patching 23:17 < rxr> Currently the RFCs generate errors here, too: download/base/rfc/RFCs0501-1000.tar.gz.cksum-err (766782730) 23:17 < tsa> rxr: hey, at least you can download them... 23:17 < rxr> Mike1: what IP addr has you odin currently? 23:19 < esden> hmm 23:19 < esden> re hi 23:19 < rxr> Mike1: the kdelibs download fine here - only the RFC fail in the checksum test .. 23:19 < esden> is someone fixing 1.7 packets now ? 23:20 < esden> otherwise I will do it ... 23:20 < rxr> esden: which packages? 23:20 < Mike1> esden go ahead 23:20 < esden> the ones with chksum errors 23:20 < huebi> thAlerim: Yes, the PC is on 23:21 < Mike1> rxr odin is my gateway, i'm redirecting you to my U5 from there 23:21 < esden> bzip2-1.0.2.tar.bz2.cksum-err 23:21 < esden> devfsd-v1.3.25.tar.bz2.cksum-err 23:21 < Mike1> my U5 has no public IP 23:21 < thAlerim> good. tomorrow you can be wake up with a new album :) 23:21 < esden> a52dec-0.7.3.tar.bz2.cksum-err 23:21 < esden> aso 23:21 < esden> . 23:21 < thAlerim> -be 23:21 < rxr> rene@jackson:~ > ssh -l rene -p 1522 odin.informatica.co.cr 23:21 < rxr> ssh: connect to address 196.40.44.43 port 1522: Connection refused 23:21 < Mike1> rxr i think esden has the same cksum-errs i do 23:22 < Mike1> rxr try again 23:22 < thAlerim> so good night guys 23:22 < rxr> do you have a static or dynamic IP? maybe I get a cached one here? 23:22 -!- thAlerim [~be@pD9E49CC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("d.e.a.d.") 23:23 < Mike1> rxr the gateway here is a really old pc.. so i just got stuck a few minutes ago and i had to reset it 23:23 < rxr> Mike1: oh :-( 23:23 < rxr> Mike1: oh :-( 23:23 < Mike1> rxr no i have a static ip 23:23 < rxr> Still refused ... 23:24 < Mike1> rxr i will move the LAN gateway into at least a pIII 23:24 < Mike1> i will check 23:24 < rxr> But old hardware is still ok 23:25 < rxr> My gateway is only a P120, too - and routing some traffic, runnin Squid and Apache keeps it 95% idle mostly ... 23:25 < Mike1> rxr hehe it shoudl work now 23:25 < rxr> jups 23:26 < Mike1> rxr i added the redirect rulez manually and i forgot to set them again 23:26 < rxr> Thanks! 23:26 < Mike1> sorry 23:26 < esden> haha the package is not on the mirror .. 23:26 < esden> that is the problem 23:28 < esden> ok Mike1 only do : ./scripts/Download -mirror none -all 23:28 < esden> then all should work 23:28 < esden> most at least ... 23:29 < rxr> Mike1: collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault], core dumped 23:29 < rxr> Mike1: to run the gcc-3.1 we might need to get into the code of some tools ... 23:31 < huebi> *lol* cowsay -f beavis.zen 'don't flood ;)' 23:32 < rxr> "/.": U.S. Considers Microsoft Passport as National ID 23:32 < rxr> urgs . 23:32 < Mike1> rxr damn 23:33 < esden> WHAT???? 23:33 < huebi> rxr: They are not only stupid, they are crazy 23:33 < Mike1> esden going to try 23:33 < esden> are they totally stupid ? 23:33 < Be-El> rxr: have you seen the movie "The Net" with sandra bullock ? 23:33 < Mike1> Be-El its quite a nice movie 23:33 < Be-El> they should have called it "The .net" ;-) 23:34 < Mike1> Be-El i like "Antitrust" the most, they even run Linux with GNOME in their computers 23:34 < Mike1> so i really enjoyed it 23:34 < rxr> Be-El: yes 23:34 < Be-El> waaahhhh ! gnome ! stay away, devil ! 23:35 < Mike1> Be-El haha 23:35 < rxr> Mike1: I now try the gcc-core-3.0.4 ... 23:35 < Mike1> rxr good 23:35 < Be-El> .oO ( less Exzorcism-HOWTO.txt ) 23:35 < Mike1> rxr feel free to hang around the U5 23:36 < rxr> Mike1: Thanks! But not this night. I'll eat a bits and read some electronics stuff - and then I need sleep ... 23:38 < Mike1> rxr well theres tomorrow and the day after that and so on you know :D 23:51 < rxr> Mike1: sure! And then a U5 should also arrive here ;-) 23:51 < rxr> Mike1: How noisy is your U5? How many fans? 23:51 < Mike1> rxr and we will build 1.7 for sparc64 23:51 < Mike1> :) 23:52 < huebi> rxr: 2 Fans. If plased under/behind the table it's no problem. 23:52 < huebi> s/s/c/ 23:54 < esden> Mike1: is your download ok now? 23:55 < Mike1> huebi yeah there are a few 23:56 < Mike1> oops huebi/rxr 23:56 < tan[away]> back 23:56 -!- tan[away] is now known as tan[an] 23:56 < Mike1> esden is better i guess let me check 23:56 -!- tan[an] is now known as jonath[an] 23:57 < Mike1> hola jonath[an] 23:57 < jonath[an]> hello Mike1 23:58 < huebi> hi jonath[an] 23:58 < jonath[an]> hi huebi 23:59 < Mike1> esden jonath[an] are you still comming over here tomorrow? 23:59 < Mike1> esden it worked :) 23:59 < esden> ??? --- Log closed Fri Apr 19 00:00:02 2002