--- Log opened Fri Apr 19 00:00:02 2002
--- Day changed Fri Apr 19 2002
00:00 < jonath[an]> Mike1: esden too?
00:00 < esden> ahh good
00:00 < jonath[an]> sure Mike1, if you have time
00:00 < Mike1> hehe no esden no sorry esden i am a little distracted today
00:00 < Mike1> jonath[an] yeah i have
00:00 < esden> hehe ...
00:00 < jonath[an]> ok Mike1  :)
00:01 < Mike1> esden so whats ur plan with praenti for comming over here for xmast?
00:01 < esden> ... that is not sure ...
00:01 < jonath[an]> :(
00:02 < Mike1> esden i can help you guys with a place to stay and food
00:02 < esden> but my parents said that if i study propperly ... the money for the plane ticket can be found ;-)
00:03 < esden> so I am havely studying ;-)
00:03 < jonath[an]> hurry up and study guy!
00:03 < Mike1> esden hehe yeah you better. we will have fun 
00:03 < jonath[an]> :)
00:04 < Mike1> jonath[an] you will join us right
00:04 < esden> Mike1: we hoped that you will help us there
00:04 < jonath[an]> of course Mike1
00:04 < jonath[an]> me too
00:05 < rxr> ok cu this morning ;-) - n8
00:06 < esden> but I have also another proposal ... that I hope will not collidote ... armijn wants thot I come over to him to help him port on PA-RISC and IA-64 ;-)(
00:06 < jonath[an]> bye rene
00:06 -!- rxr is now known as rxr-zzZZ
00:06 < esden> I do not want to miss it ;-)
00:06 < esden> ce rxr-zzZZ 
00:06 < huebi> by rxr-zzZZ 
00:06 < Mike1> esden oh ok
00:06 < esden> i mean cu ;-)
00:06 < Mike1> cu rxr-zzZZ 
00:07 < esden> A possibility to hack on IA-64 will not be so fast there ;-)
00:08 < Mike1> esden yeah, do as you wish :)
00:08 < Mike1> if you get to decide to come over you are welcome
00:08 < jonath[an]> sure esden  :)
00:10 < esden> thanks boys ;-)
00:10 < esden> we will see
00:11 < jonath[an]> take ur time
00:11 < esden> i soo jou at ccc Mike1 right ?
00:11 < esden> wton I not come over to costa rico
00:11 < esden> a
00:13 < tsa> cat esden | aspell
00:13 < esden> tsa: sure sure ... 
00:13 < jonath[an]> hehe
00:14 < esden> i nead aspell modure in irssi
00:14 < tsa> ACK.
00:15 < tsa> Finished downloading 0 bytes in 1.324 seconds (0.000 bytes/sec). 
00:15 < tsa> interesting.
00:15 < tsa> i'd like to know how curl does this..
00:16 < esden> lol
00:16 < Mike1> esden yeah i will go to 19c3 i hope
00:16 < Mike1> but if u come you will be here before it ?
00:16 < esden> curs is terribly buggy ...
00:16 < tsa> ack. i've got no idea why clifford droppen wget.
00:16 < esden> Mike1: yes sure
00:16 < tsa> s/droppen/ropped/
00:16 < tsa> lghdkjfgljfd
00:16 < tsa> s/droppen/dropped/
00:17 * tsa needink aspell, too.
00:17 < esden> hehe ... seems so tsa
00:17 * Be-El grabs tsa keyboard and mixes up the keymap
00:17 < tsa> Be-El: man loadkeys(8)
00:18 < esden> tsa: clifford dropped it cuz curl is easier to script then wget ..
00:18 < Be-El> tsa: hardware layout, not the software mapping ;-)
00:18 < tsa> esden: that doesn't help if if doesn't download at all..
00:18 < tsa> Be-El: hm....2 late....the windows keys are already removed ;)
00:19 < esden> and we use allwacs cutting edge technologys ... like devfs ... dietlibc ... aso
00:19 < esden> so in 1.7 that is unstable we can also use unstable tools ..
00:19 < tsa> esden: ..which will result in a non-working cutting-edge system?
00:19 < tsa> interesting idea...
00:20 < tsa> ;)
00:21 < huebi> ftp! - That works! Everytime, everywhere!
00:21 < huebi> Ask a cow if you dont believe
00:21 < esden> tsa: yes ... sure .. but once it is stable we have experiance with the new technology ... and others begin to use it ... and have little experiance with it ..
00:22 < huebi> We can contribute to curl...
00:22 < tsa> huebi: i would - but it seems there currently is no wise cow present here...
00:22 < Mike1> The Cows Projetc!
00:22 < huebi> I invite her!
00:23 < huebi>  ________________________ 
00:23 < huebi> < What can I do for you? >
00:23 < huebi>  ------------------------ 
00:23 < huebi>         \   ^__^
00:23 < huebi>          \  (oo)\_______
00:23 < huebi>             (__)\       )\/\
00:23 < huebi>                 ||----w |
00:23 < huebi>                 ||     ||
00:23 < Mike1> huebi i knew you would do that
00:23 < tsa> *ROTFL*
00:23 < huebi> Tell me about curl
00:24 < tsa> is there a figlet option to make cows?
00:25 < tsa> cow: curl sucks. it doesn't download things i want to have and it sucks at maths.
00:26 < tsa> do i have to include some food in my qeustions?
00:26 < Mike1> tsa just grass
00:26 < huebi>  ______________________________ 
00:26 < huebi> < I wrote it. Don't bother me! >
00:26 < huebi>  ------------------------------ 
00:26 < huebi>    \         __------~~-,
00:26 < huebi>     \      ,'            ,
00:26 < huebi>           /               \
00:26 < huebi>          /                :
00:26 -!- wschlich_ [~wschlich@pD955CDD7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
00:27 < huebi>         |                  '
00:27 < huebi>         |                  |
00:27 < huebi>         |                  |
00:27 < huebi>          |   _--           |
00:27 < huebi>          _| =-.     .-.   ||
00:27 < huebi>          o|/o/       _.   |
00:27 < huebi>          /  ~          \ |
00:27 < huebi>        (____@)  ___~    |
00:27 < huebi>           |_===~~~.`    |
00:27 < huebi>        _______.--~     |
00:27 < huebi>        \________       |
00:27 < huebi>                 \      |
00:27 < huebi>               __/-___-- -__
00:27 < huebi>              /            _ \
00:27 < huebi>  
00:27 < huebi> Bevis: shut up
00:27 < tsa> hehehe
00:27 < esden> argh huebi !!!!
00:27 < huebi> cowsay -f beavis.zen I wrote it. Don\'t bother me!
00:28 < fake> YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS!!!
00:28 < fake> == 04/19/02 07:21:30 =[0]=> Finished building package glibc.
00:28 < fake> YEEEEEEEEHAW!
00:28 < esden> wooooooowww
00:28 < esden> juuuuuubeeeeeel
00:28 < esden> geil
00:28 < esden> pervers
00:28 < esden> fake du bist ein gott
00:28 < esden> wahrnsinn
00:28 < fake> :P
00:29 < esden> neee ohne scheiss jetzt
00:29 < fake> uebrigens ein 20jaehriger.
00:29 < fake> *g*
00:29 < esden> musstest viel tweeken ?
00:29 < esden> aja stimmt fake 
00:29 < fake> esden> bis jetzt nur den flisz wrapper kicken
00:29 < huebi>  _______________________ 
00:29 < huebi> ( How has he done that? )
00:29 < huebi>  ----------------------- 
00:29 < huebi>         o   ^__^
00:29 < huebi>          o  (oo)\_______
00:29 < esden> alles gute
00:29 < huebi>             (__)\       )\/\
00:29 < huebi>                 ||----w |
00:29 < Mike1> jonath[an] whats your geil ass doing?
00:29 < huebi>                 ||     ||
00:29 < jonath[an]> Mike1: trying evilwm
00:30 < Mike1> jonath[an] oh ok
00:30 < esden> huebi: du willst noch heute sterben ?
00:30 < Be-El> so...ab ins bett
00:30 < jonath[an]> Mike1: why?
00:30 < Mike1> just seemed strange that u were quite
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00:31 * fake activates the TV-Out of his matrox
00:31 < jonath[an]> ok
00:31 < fake> to test... his.....
00:31 < fake> BEAMER ;))
00:32 < esden> fake: wocher beamer ?
00:32 < Mike1> huebi can you make a horse? *G
00:33 < SMP> DivX ;) junkies
00:33 < esden> noooooo
00:33 < esden> Mike1: please ...
00:33 < fake> esden: von nem arbeitskollegen. is so ein alter mini-video beamer, sollte aber taugen
00:33 < fake> is vorerst mal nur geliehen, aber wenn er taugt...
00:33 < esden> ist bestimmt trotzdem cool zum video schauen
00:33 < Mike1> esden damn sorry
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00:34 < fake> mom
00:34 < fake> brb
00:37 < tsa>  ___________________________________ 
00:37 < tsa> \ stats, huebi?                     /
00:37 < tsa>  ----------------------------------- 
00:37 < tsa>    \
00:37 < tsa>     \
00:38 < tsa>         .--.
00:38 < tsa>        |o_o |
00:38 < tsa>        |:_/ |
00:38 < tsa>       //   \ \
00:38 < tsa>      (|     | )
00:38 < tsa>     /'\_   _/`\
00:38 < tsa>     \___)=(___/
00:38 < tsa> narf.
00:38 < tsa>  / am anfang ist boese.
00:39 < huebi>  
00:39 < huebi>  ___________________ 
00:39 < huebi> < only second place >
00:39 < huebi>  ------------------- 
00:39 < huebi>       \                    / \  //\
00:39 < huebi>        \    |\___/|      /   \//  \\
00:39 < jonath[an]> bye ppl
00:39 < huebi>             /0  0  \__  /    //  | \ \    
00:39 < huebi>            /     /  \/_/    //   |  \  \  
00:39 < huebi>            @_^_@'/   \/_   //    |   \   \ 
00:39 < huebi>            //_^_/     \/_ //     |    \    \
00:39 < jonath[an]> bye
00:39 < huebi>         ( //) |        \///      |     \     \
00:39 < huebi>       ( / /) _|_ /   )  //       |      \     _\
00:39 < jonath[an]> im away since now
00:39 < huebi>     ( // /) '/,_ _ _/  ( ; -.    |    _ _\.-~        .-~~~^-.
00:39 < huebi>   (( / / )) ,-{        _      `-.|.-~-.           .~         `.
00:39 < huebi>  (( // / ))  '/\      /                 ~-. _ .-~      .-~^-.  \
00:39 < huebi>  (( /// ))      `.   {            }                   /      \  \
00:39 -!- jonath[an] is now known as tan[away]
00:39 < huebi>   (( / ))     .----~-.\        \-'                 .~         \  `. \^-.
00:39 < huebi>              ///.----..>        \             _ -~             `.  ^-`  ^-_
00:39 < esden> ich gehe schlafen ...
00:39 < huebi>                ///-._ _ _ _ _ _ _}^ - - - - ~                     ~-- ,.-~
00:39 < huebi>                                                                   /.-~
00:39 < huebi> bye jonath[an] 
00:40 < esden> ich kann nimmer die asciis sehen ...
00:40 < esden> cu all
00:40 < huebi> nacht esden
00:40 < tsa> n8 esden *lach*
00:41 < tsa>   ______________________________
00:41 < tsa>  < Beware huebi, I know Karate! >
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00:41 < tsa>         \   ,__,
00:41 < tsa>          \  (oo)____
00:41 < tsa>             (__)    )\
00:41 < tsa>                ||--|| *
00:41 < tsa>  
00:41 < tsa> ah..so is besser.
00:41 < esden> es tut mir leid aber ich glaube ihr uebertreibt bissel ... aber wenn es euch spass macht ... *kopfschuettel*
00:41 < tsa> esden: keine angst, das hoert schon wieder auf ;)
00:42 < huebi>  ________________ 
00:42 < huebi> < fucking karate >
00:42 < huebi>  ---------------- 
00:42 < huebi>        \   \_______
00:42 < huebi>  v__v   \  \   O   )
00:42 < huebi>  (oo)      ||----w |
00:42 < huebi>  (__)      ||     ||  \/\
00:42 < huebi>     
00:42 < huebi> cowsay -f mutilated fucking karate 
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00:43 < tsa> hm...hat auch was..
00:43 < esden> jaja wenn der huebi mich in den stats ueberholt hat ... ich wusste ich sollte es nicht aufsetzen ... aber ich habe gedacht ihr seid ernstere menschen als im bchat ...
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00:43 < huebi>  ______________________________________ 
00:43 < huebi> I knwo the force is with you crchchc \
00:43 < huebi> \ schhhh                               /
00:43 < huebi>  -------------------------------------- 
00:43 < huebi>         \    ,-^-.
00:43 < huebi>          \   !oYo!
00:43 < huebi>           \ /./=\.\______
00:43 < huebi>                ##        )\/\
00:43 < huebi>                 ||-----w||
00:43 < huebi>                 ||      ||
00:44 < huebi>                Cowth Vader
00:44 < esden> da habe ich es letztendlich ausgeschaltet denn die haben sich nonstop irgendwelche scheisse eisfallen lassen ...
00:44 < esden> naja egal
00:44 < esden> gute nacht ...
00:44 < tsa> n8 esden...bis morgen irgendwann..
00:44 < huebi> esden: Das legt sic hwieder. Ich muss irgenwann auch mal arbeiten und schlafen.
00:45 < huebi> nacht esden 
00:45 < huebi> cowsay passt _genau_ in die stats
00:45 < tsa> hehe
00:48 < tsa> mach nen package draus...
00:49 < huebi> jo, gute idee
00:49 < tsa> kleiner patch gegen install.sh und das sollte tun.
00:50 < huebi> das geht auf ohne patch nur in der cowsay.conf.
00:50 < tsa> oder das.
00:51 < huebi> echo "/opt/cowsay\n" | install.sh   oder so aehnlich.
00:51 < tsa> z.B....
00:52 < tsa> hm....wenn du morgen esden mit nem "cowsay -f small Hi esden" begruesst, dreht er durch ;-)
00:54 < huebi> hehe
00:54 < tan[away]> bye
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00:54 < th_> von wem issen die libm?
00:55 < tsa> /usr/lib/libm.so ?
00:55 < tsa> sollte glibc sein..
00:55 < th_> achso
00:56 < th_> damn
00:56 < th_> wo stehen da irgendwelche changelogs oder knownbugs?
00:56 < th_> oder gibts das nur zusammen mit glibc?
00:56 < tsa> ich denk mal, nur zusammen mit der glibc...
00:56 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-209-107-204.woh.rr.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection)
00:57 < tsa> also /usr/share/doc/packages/glibc/ChangeLog*
01:01 < th_> ok
01:01 < th_> thx
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01:03 < tsa> hi hackbard
01:03 < hackbard> hi !
01:03 < huebi> hi hackbard 
01:07 < Mike1> hello franky boy
01:07 < Mike1> como estas?
01:08 < hackbard> !hola miguel! .bien. ?quieres me casar?
01:08 < hackbard> :)
01:09 < Mike1> shut up!
01:09 < Mike1> it certainly took you a while to eat huh
01:10 < Mike1> Bier Bier!!! i need Bier!
01:11 < tsa> casar?????
01:11 < tsa> i guess Mike1 now really needs some beer.
01:14 < Mike1> tsa yeah would you like one too?
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01:14 < tsa> Mike1: sure..
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01:18 < huebi>  ____________ 
01:18 < huebi> < Good night >
01:18 < huebi>  ------------ 
01:18 < huebi>        \   ,__,
01:18 < huebi>         \  (oo)____
01:18 < huebi>            (__)    )\
01:18 < huebi>               ||--|| *
01:18 < Mike1> oh shit i think he misunderstood me
01:19 < Mike1> n8 huebi 
01:19 < tsa> n8 huebi.
01:20 < tsa> que paso con hackbard?
01:21 < Mike1> i think he took it personal when i said shut up
01:21 < tsa> hm....i don't see a reason to do so....although i still don't understand why he wanted to marry you..
01:22 < Mike1> tsa just joking around
01:22 < th_> damn
01:23 < th_> hab mich von meinem IP-drucker ausgesperrt
01:23 < tsa> i see..
01:23 < tsa> th_: brauchst du was zum lachen?
01:23 < tsa> babelfish.altavista.com und lass dir die rocklinux.org auf deutsch uebersetzen.
01:24 < tsa> Willkommen zum homepage FELSENLinux
01:24 < th_> FELSENLinux is gut ;)
01:25 < th_> ich hab schon oft aus spass uebersetzungen machen lassen
01:25 < th_> der spassfaktor erhoeht sich wenn man ein paar mal durch verschiedene sprachen uebersetzt
01:25 < tsa> jupp, das regelt.
01:26 < tsa> FELSEN Linux ist eine moderne Linux Verteilung mit einem leistungsfähigem Automobi
01:26 < tsa> stammt aus dem readme.html.
01:27 < tsa> Mike1: try translating www.rocklinux.org to spanish with babelfish.altavista.com ...i guess you'll laugh your ass off..
01:27 < tsa> the german translation is pretty evil..
01:28 * Mike1 has been translating the rock site to spanish :)
01:28 < Mike1> tsa i guess those translation machines are pretty stupid
01:29 < tsa> Mike1: they sure are....but reading it can really be fun.
01:29 < Mike1> haha for sure
01:29 < Mike1> also there is www.freetranslation.com
01:31 * tsa testing.
01:33 < tsa> hm...nice....but it doesn't translate when you use the links on a page
01:35 < tsa> anyway, nice results.
01:35 < tsa> Üble Wanze in Sendmail-Paket (Fels 1.5.12)
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01:39 < jonath[an]> re
01:39 < tsa> hi jonath[an]
02:08 < jonath[an]> ill leave now
02:08 < jonath[an]> bye guys
02:08 < jonath[an]> have a good night
02:08 < tsa> cu jonath[an]
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02:15 < Mike1> tsa whata re you doing?
02:15 < tsa> Mike1: trying to fix the damn nessus package.
02:15 < tsa> abandoned since months..
02:15 < Mike1> hehe
02:15 < Mike1> ok have fun
02:17 < tsa> i do, i do..
02:18 < tsa> it was at version 1.0.9, current is 1.2.0 ..
02:18 < tsa> *sigh*
02:18 < Mike1> hehe nice
02:19 < tsa> anyway, i've already done the version update. now i'm trying to force it into prefix=/usr, not prefix=/opt/nessus, as it used to be.
02:23 < Mike1> oh ok
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02:43 < tsa> ok....nessus is updated, now finally compiles, works.
02:43 < tsa> i'll go to bed.
02:43 < tsa> cu all.
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03:39 < Mike1> anybody awake
03:39 < Mike1> ???
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04:06 < jonath[an]> re
04:11 < Mike1> hi
04:11 < Mike1> jonath[an] you still at uni?
04:11 < jonath[an]> sure
04:11 < jonath[an]> :)
04:12 < Mike1> what tha F%CK are you doing there this time?
04:13 < jonath[an]> hehe
04:13 < jonath[an]> is not too late
04:13 < jonath[an]> i want to open an application in a port
04:13 < Mike1> yes i know i just didn't spect u would be here
04:13 < Mike1> i see
04:13 < jonath[an]> im looking for that in IRC
04:13 < jonath[an]> :)
04:14 < Mike1> hehe
04:14 * Mike1 Building rock-1.7-DEV arch=Sparc
04:14 < Mike1> :)
04:14 < jonath[an]> :)
04:14 < jonath[an]> where?
04:15 < Mike1> my Ultra 5... i'm still at my office
04:15 < Mike1> hacking HDW code, i've been away from that for a while
04:15 < jonath[an]> sure, i know
04:16 < Mike1> jonath[an] would you like to build 1.5.4 tomorrow with me?
04:16 < jonath[an]> kool
04:16 < jonath[an]> maybe
04:16 < jonath[an]> if u can of course
04:16 < jonath[an]> why 1.5.4?
04:16 < Mike1> jonath[an] i am inviting you too 
04:16 < Mike1> i ment 1.5.14 sorry 
04:17 < jonath[an]> ahh ok
04:17 < Mike1> its up to you if you want to come
04:17 < Mike1> i'm planning to stay untill very late tomorrow
04:17 < jonath[an]> ok, it sounds interesting
04:17 < Mike1> its is
04:17 < jonath[an]> ok :)
04:18 < Mike1> also i can explain you some of the HDW code
04:18 < jonath[an]> donde puedo conseguir buena informacion acerca de Sockets y Escuchadores?
04:18 < Mike1> and maybe we could both go for some ELKS building
04:18 < jonath[an]> sure, kool!
04:18 < jonath[an]> hehe, ok
04:18 < Mike1> escuchadores = sniffers?
04:19 < jonath[an]> no se en ingles
04:19 < jonath[an]> me refiero a listen(), connect(0, etc
04:20 < Mike1> www.google.com
04:20 < Mike1> :)
04:20 < jonath[an]> well, i dunno how to do a specific search
04:21 < Mike1> ok to freshmeat.net
04:21 < jonath[an]> i want a HOW-to, manual, tutorial, or sth like that
04:21 < Mike1> search for sniffit
04:21 < jonath[an]> i was looking at gogole
04:21 < Mike1> mmm ok them...
04:21 < jonath[an]> hehe, last time u told me about sniffit
04:21 < jonath[an]> i couldnt install it
04:21 < Mike1> http://www.lawebdelprogramador.com
04:21 < Mike1> http://docs.online.bg
04:22 < jonath[an]> ok
04:22 < Mike1> have a look at it should give you some info
04:22 < Mike1> also go to...
04:23 < Mike1> ./usr/doc/HOWTOS/*
04:23 < jonath[an]> hehe, ok
04:26 < Mike1> found anything interesting?
04:26 < jonath[an]> yet no
04:28 < Mike1> ok also i will show you some books i have here tomorrow they may help you
04:28 < jonath[an]> ok, im interested n learn more and more each day
04:28 < jonath[an]> :)
04:29 < Mike1> por algo eres el candidato numero 1 a ser mi discipulo
04:29 < jonath[an]> jejeje, gracias
04:29 < jonath[an]> :)
04:29 < Mike1> claro esta eso depende de si estas interesado o no
04:29 < jonath[an]> por supuesto!
04:30 < jonath[an]> si tienes libros disponibles manana me llevo un saco, me compro buenos anteojos, y me siento a leer
04:30 < jonath[an]> :)
04:30 < Mike1> que si tengo libros? cuantos meses te piensas quedar a leer?
04:31 < jonath[an]> hasta que me salgan pelos blancos
04:31 < jonath[an]> ;)
04:31 < Mike1> hehe bien
04:32 < jonath[an]> +tienes libros?
04:32 < Mike1> esperame un segundo tengo que hacer arreglos a un server, esque acabo de terminar de instalar un servidor que sera nuestro nuevo file server
04:32 < jonath[an]> ok
04:32 < Mike1> jonath[an] si tengo varios aqui y puedo traer algunos de mi casa
04:33 < jonath[an]> ok
04:33 < jonath[an]> si puedes prestarme algunos, traelos
04:34 < Mike1> creo que si
04:35 < jonath[an]> ok
04:43 * Mike1 testing file server
04:54 < Mike1> jonath[an] its looking good
04:55 < Mike1> just a few more lines in /ect/samba/smb.conf and it will be ready
05:13 < Mike1> jonath[an] any luck yet?
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05:25 < Mike1> jonath[an] its finally working :)
05:34 < jonath[an]> hey
05:34 < jonath[an]> im back
05:35 < jonath[an]> i was working with Java in other PC
05:35 < jonath[an]> :p
05:36 < Mike1> jonath[an] ok
05:36 < jonath[an]> Mike1: que estas ensamblando?
05:36 < jonath[an]> as -Qy -s -o rpc_cmsg.op ..
05:38 < Mike1> estaba configurando un file server con samba
05:38 < Mike1> ya esta listo :)
05:39 < jonath[an]> ahh ok
05:39 < Mike1> comaprte archivos e impresoras
05:39 < jonath[an]> yo nunca he usado samba
05:39 < jonath[an]> si, lo se
05:39 < Mike1> manana dejaras de decir eso
05:39 < jonath[an]> hehe
05:39 < jonath[an]> seguro que si
05:39 < jonath[an]> :p
05:39 < Mike1> vamos a ver que loquera hacemos
05:39 < jonath[an]> jeje
05:39 < jonath[an]> ok
05:39 < Mike1> tengo varias ideas
05:40 < jonath[an]> como por ejemplo?
05:40 < Mike1> puede ser una o varias de las siguientes
05:40 < Mike1> servidor de fax
05:40 < Mike1> serivodor de CVS o RSNC
05:40 < Mike1> RSYNC*
05:41 < Mike1> compilar rock
05:41 < Mike1> hacer un firewall bien bravo
05:41 < Mike1> o mejor todas :)
05:41 < jonath[an]> todas estan cool
05:41 < jonath[an]> !
05:41 < Mike1> sip
05:41 < jonath[an]> si se pueden todas mejor
05:41 < jonath[an]> :)
05:42 < Mike1> ya veres incluso yo necesito necesito domrir a veces
05:42 < Mike1> veres/veremos
05:42 < jonath[an]> hehe, ok
05:42 < jonath[an]> ya vas a la casa?
05:42 < Mike1> estoy recogiendo mis cosas si
05:42 < Mike1> pq?
05:42 < jonath[an]> no, decia yo
05:43 < Mike1> vos?
05:43 < jonath[an]> no hay problema si me quedo un rato en nemesis?
05:43 < jonath[an]> jalo como en media hora
05:43 < jonath[an]> necesito terminar algo mas
05:43 < Mike1> te di una cuenta podes estar toda la noche si quieres
05:44 < Mike1> mientras nemesis este online tu puedes usarlo sin importar que este yo o no
05:44 < jonath[an]> ok :)
05:44 < jonath[an]> que recursos tiene nemesis disponibles?
05:44 < jonath[an]> para usuarios comunes y corrientes
05:44 < Mike1> de todo un poco hehe
05:45 < Mike1> tiene lo normal de cualquier estacion que da servicios a usuarios corrientes
05:45 < Mike1> si necesitas algo solo mandame un mail y lo pides
05:45 < Mike1> mike@odin.informatica.co.cr
05:45 < jonath[an]> hehe, ok
05:46 < jonath[an]> puedo recivir correo desde afuera?
05:46 * jonath[an] supone que no
05:46 < jonath[an]> :)
05:47 < Mike1> se podria arreglar
05:47 < Mike1> pero manana
05:47 < Mike1> ahora me voy a ir a mi casa
05:47 < Mike1> :)
05:47 < jonath[an]> ok
05:47 < jonath[an]> buenas noches Miguel
05:47 < jonath[an]> trae algunos libros interesantes, si puedes
05:47 < Mike1> solo disculpa que la coneccion este tan lerda estoy bajando multiples cosas desde varios tarros
05:48 < Mike1> asi que el ancho de banda de esta muy consumido
05:48 < jonath[an]> ahh, no no, no importa
05:48 < Mike1> ok asi lo hare
05:48 < jonath[an]> mas bien esta muy rapido, en comparacion con gate
05:48 < Mike1> te prometo que no estara mas lerdo de lo que esta en este momento
05:48 < jonath[an]> u otros lugares
05:48 < Mike1> hehe a bueno
05:48 < jonath[an]> hehe, como tu digas
05:48 < Mike1> manana lo vas a ver con full ancho de banda a ver que piensas
05:49 < Mike1> en todo caso que tengas buenas noches john 
05:49 < jonath[an]> jaja, ok
05:49 < jonath[an]> :)
05:49 < Mike1> no se acueste tarde manana nos desvelamos
05:49 < jonath[an]> igual
05:49 < jonath[an]> jajajajajaja
05:49 < jonath[an]> ok ok
05:49 < jonath[an]> aro aro
05:49 < Mike1> night all
05:49 * Mike1 zZzZzZzZ
05:49 < jonath[an]> n8 Mike1
05:50 < Mike1> one more thing trea cds
05:50 < Mike1> trae*
05:50 < jonath[an]> ok
05:50 < jonath[an]> mas o menos cuantos?
05:50 < Mike1> 1 caja ? :D
05:51 < jonath[an]> puede ser
05:51 < Mike1> ok
05:51 < Mike1> bye
05:51 < jonath[an]> bye
05:59 < jonath[an]> cya
05:59 < jonath[an]> i go now!
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07:43 < huebi> moin
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08:04 < term_emu> re
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09:32 < aszlig> hullo
09:35 < huebi> hi aszlig 
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09:55 < rschwebel> Hi, Somebody here? 
09:59 < huebi>  ______________________ 
09:59 < huebi> < Jo. Moin rschwebel ! >
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10:00 < rschwebel> Moinsen.
10:00 < huebi> http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/cowsay_3.03.orig.tar.gz
10:00 < huebi> hehe
10:01 < rschwebel> I'm currently searching for a method to automate my handmade distributions for embedded machines. 
10:01 < rschwebel> I've started to do something similar to ROCK some time ago, 
10:01 < rschwebel> and at the yesterday's LUG meeting in Braunschweig somebody 
10:01 < rschwebel> pointed me to the ROCK site...
10:02 < rschwebel> Now, I'm trying to make my first steps and find out if it fits my needs.
10:02 < rschwebel> I hope you can help me :-)
10:03 < rschwebel> To get a feeling for ROCK: is it possible to make a minimum installation, 
10:03 < huebi> <- has been living in Braunscgweig for 21 Years, hehe
10:03 < rschwebel> let's say onyl kernel, (g)libc, shell, login? 
10:03 < rschwebel> :-)
10:03 < rschwebel> I've studied there...
10:03 < huebi> rschwebel: Jo, thats possible.
10:03 < rschwebel> How?
10:04 < huebi> Just erase all you don't need from the configuration files
10:05 < rschwebel> Is there a central configuration file where this has to be done?
10:05 < rschwebel> Or something prebuilt, let's say for a floppy distro? 
10:05 < huebi> No, there are several files. I do some work on getting only one Config file.
10:06 < rschwebel> In my homemade system I've done the configuration system with CML1, 
10:06 < rschwebel> so you can generate it completely menu driven. 
10:06 < rschwebel> It seems that there's something similar with ROCK, 
10:07 < rschwebel> but I have the impression that just parts of the configuration are included? 
10:07 < huebi> http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/snapshots/rock-src-1.5.14.tar.bz2 <- the latest snapshot. 
10:07 < rschwebel> What's the difference between the branches? I've downloaded the latest 1.7.x snapshot. 
10:08 < huebi> All the configuration is in rock includet. But there are _many_ files.
10:08 < rschwebel> ... which may be difficult if you build for several systems. 
10:08 < huebi> 1.7 is development and does not compile in the moment.
10:09 < rschwebel> What I need is something which sucks in a configuration (in whatever format)...
10:09 < huebi> 1.5.14 is stable with only a few known bugs
10:09 < rschwebel> ... and makes a distro out of it. Note that this has to be done for quite 
10:09 < rschwebel> a lot of different systems, so it should be easy. 
10:09 < rschwebel> I mean, changing some well defined config files is ok, 
10:10 < rschwebel> but it should be clear which ones. 
10:10 < rschwebel> Ok, I'll try that version. 
10:10 < huebi> I show you something.. moment
10:10 < rschwebel> Is there a CVS server for ROCK? 
10:11 < huebi> Jo. Hmm. broken in the moment (CVS)
10:11 < huebi> I erased too much
10:13 < huebi> http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/sources/rock-1.5.14/ <- here is the source
10:14 < rschwebel> I'm currently downloading it. 
10:14 < huebi> http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/sources/rock-1.5.14/subdists/ <- have a look here. Here are several subdistributions
10:16 * rschwebel wonders where to get a faster network connection
10:16 < rschwebel> Argh, what's my IRC client doing? 
10:17 < rschwebel> Can you hear me? 
10:17 < huebi> jo
10:17 < rschwebel> Umpf. I'm still learning how this irc stuff works. 
10:17 < rschwebel> Sometimes something goes wrong :-)
10:18 < rschwebel> What are _you_ using ROCK for? Normal desktop stuff? 
10:20 < huebi> for Oracle, MySQL databases, Apache, and of course for my desktop PCs
10:20 < rschwebel> Which one of the subdistributions would you recommend? 
10:21 < rschwebel> My first impression was "Rescue System", but 250 MB doesn't seem to be minimal...
10:22 < huebi> I never tested a subdistribution. Everytime I build the whole thing for rock-debugging.
10:23 < rschwebel> Umpf, I neither have the space, nor the processor power, nor the time to do this now...
10:23 < rschwebel> Is it possible to tell the Download script to download just for a subdistro? 
10:23 < huebi> jo. 
10:24 < rschwebel> How? Didn't find a hint in --help. 
10:24 < huebi> It'll tell you if you dont invoke it with parameters
10:25 < huebi> you can also get single packages
10:29 < huebi> http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ <- woks again ;)
10:29 < rschwebel> Wait a minute, a phone call...
10:30 < huebi> http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/ChangeLog
10:30 < huebi> some more info
10:30 < huebi> ;)
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10:32 < huebi> hi tomik 
10:32 < tomik> hello 
10:32 < rschwebel> I'm back. 
10:32 < huebi> tomik: have you some experience with a very small rock build?
10:33 < tomik> small? 
10:33 < tomik> how much small :)
10:33 < rschwebel> As small as possible :-)
10:34 < rschwebel> At the moment, I just want to try it with a small configuration (let's say what fits on one disk). 
10:34 < rschwebel> Later it will be for embedded systems. 
10:34 < tomik> i have relative small rock for use on my routers ... 40 MB
10:35 < rschwebel> I wouldn't call that actually small ;-)
10:35 < huebi> rschwebel: in 1.7 there is a subdist with dietlibc IIRC
10:36 < tomik> ok...there is everything i need 
10:36 < rschwebel> But huebi just said that 1.7 doesn't compile at the moment. 
10:36 < rschwebel> I still didn't find out how to select a subdistribution. 
10:37 < tomik> pls where is some rock-1.5.13(or higher)-i586.iso to download?
10:38 < rschwebel> huebi: Neither "scripts/Download --help" nor "scripts/Help Download" has a hint...
10:38 < rschwebel> Or I have penguins on my eyes ;-)
10:40 < huebi> ./scripts/Download -base
10:40 < huebi> ./scripts/Download -passive-ftp -base
10:41 < huebi> ./scripts/Download <- for help, cow says
10:41 < rschwebel> Yes, but how do I tell him not do download _everything_, but only what is needed for the subdistro? 
10:41 < huebi> ./scripts/Download -passive-ftp -package Package(s)
10:42 < huebi> the packages do you find in:
10:42 < huebi> http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/sources/rock-1.5.14/base-config/
10:43 < rschwebel> Hmm, I assume I didn't understand the concept of subdistros yet. 
10:43 < rschwebel> In base-config there is about _everything_. 
10:43 < rschwebel> Isn't a subdistro a set of packages which can be selected? 
10:45 < huebi> Compiling/building and installing are different.
10:46 < rschwebel> The first thing I would like to do is to define a set of packages (which I would consider a subdistro?) I want to install. 
10:46 < rschwebel> Then say: "download these"
10:46 < rschwebel> Then probably configure and make. 
10:46 < rschwebel> Did I misinterpret the concept? 
10:48 < huebi> for building there are only 3 build in possibilities:
10:48 < huebi> base, base+opt base+opt+ext(ensions)
10:49 < huebi> But you can write your own emb(edded)
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11:06 < netcrow> hi
11:07 < huebi> hi netti ;)
11:07 < huebi> netcrow: hast du gestern die Kuehe mitgekriegt?
11:08 < netcrow> ne
11:08 < netcrow> muss ich mir mal das log durchlesen ;)
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11:09 < huebi> < moooh >
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11:09 < netcrow> so
11:09 < huebi> da war ebend eine
11:09 < netcrow> huebi: ich hab da noch ne frage..
11:09 < netcrow> du hast doch mal diesen vsftpd aufgesetzt?
11:10 < huebi>  ______________ 
11:10 < huebi> < Ja, habe ich >
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11:10 < netcrow> *lol*
11:10 < huebi> So und jetzt is gut mit muuh
11:11 < huebi> http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/cowsay_3.03.orig.tar.gz
11:11 < netcrow> wie mach ich das vsftpd in die inetd.conf?
11:11 < netcrow> weil er startret ja nur mit inetd
11:12 < huebi> ftpstream  tcp nowait.500 root   /opt/vsftpd/sbin/vsftpd    vsftpd
11:12 < huebi> ftp stream  tcp nowait.500 root   /opt/vsftpd/sbin/vsftpd    vsftpd
11:12 < netcrow> muss ich meinen versuch schnell angucken
11:12 < huebi> irssi schluck tabs
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11:13 < netcrow> für was is das nowait.500?
11:14 < huebi> man inetd und nach nowait suchen - ist sehr ausfuehrlich
11:15 < netcrow> ja, ich fauler hund ;)
11:18 < huebi> Habe ich hochgesetzt auf 500 weil ich den lokal benutze und dann sind mit wget ploetzlich nicht mehr die prozesse gestartet.
11:20 < netcrow> hehe das irclog von heut is ja wie ein bilderbuch ;-)
11:20 < huebi> netcrow: hehe, Die Kuehe durfen jetzt wieder grasen gehen.
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11:20 < holyolli> hi
11:21 < huebi>  _________________ 
11:21 < huebi> < moooin holyolli >
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11:21 < netcrow> *g*
11:21 < esden> morgen
11:22 < netcrow> hi esden
11:22 < huebi> hiesden
11:22 < huebi> hi esden
11:22 < esden> hi huebi 
11:22 < huebi> esden: Na schon wach. Hast du von Kuehen getraeumt?
11:23 < holyolli> *lol*
11:23 < holyolli> moin huebi
11:23 < holyolli> hi esden
11:23 < holyolli> hi netcrow
11:23 < esden> ja ich haba davon getreumt dann ich einen autokik eingerichtet habe ... der jemanden der im channel mit kuehen spammt aus dem channel kickt ...
11:24 < esden> ich werde glaube ich damit anfangen ...
11:25 < holyolli> esden: ohne op...?
11:25 < holyolli> ;)
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11:25 < huebi> gestern auf #reallife ging das rund mit cowsay und figlet. Dann habe ich die beiden Programme auch noch sofort im Netz gefunden und jetzt hat der IRC BSE
11:25 <@esden> dass ist kein problem
11:26 <@esden> ja dann muss ich glaube ich den channel heilen ...
11:26 <@esden> ;-)
11:26 * netcrow hat a angebissene wienersemmel vor sich...
11:26 * holyolli hat ne tastatur vor sich...
11:26 < huebi> netcrow: Was willst DU uns damit sagen?
11:27 < holyolli> .oO(wtf is eigendlich ne wienersemmel?)
11:27 < netcrow> huebi: weiß nicht, aber ich musste das loswerden...
11:27 < huebi> ARRGHH! Coffee (and cow) not found. Operator haltet! - brb ;-)
11:28 < holyolli> ./dcc send huebi coffee
11:28 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden
11:29 < huebi> disc full *gurgel*
11:29 < huebi> es gibt auch brennende Scharfe. Darf ich?
11:32 < esden> nein ...
11:41 < netcrow> hm, Mozilla 1.0 RC1 is draußen...
11:41 < huebi> netcrow: Heise weiss das auch schon
11:41 < netcrow> ja, gut so ;>
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11:42 < rxr> moin people
11:42 < netcrow> hi rxr 
11:43 < huebi> moin rxr.
11:43 < huebi> rxr: esden mag keine Kuehe ;(
11:44 < holyolli> hi rxr
11:44 < rxr> Cool Mike's U5 finished the gcc-3.0.4 ;-)
11:49 < rxr> Mike1: You have a working gcc-3.0.4 in /home/rene/opt ;-) I'll do more work on the ROCK autobench this afternoon and will run a gcc vs. gcc3 on your sparc ;-) - But first I'll have some hours Electronics at the Universitiy ...
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11:58 < esden> huebi: 1... 2... jaaa aber nicht jede paar sekunden eine ... ... irgendwann wirde es einfach zu viel ...
11:59 < huebi> esden: Ich habe die KKuehe zum grasen nach #flood geschickt
12:02 < holyolli> .oO(tsa ist grad hier angekommen und wir wollten grad für esden ne kuhsessen hier aufm channel machen... ;-)
12:02 < holyolli> kuhsession even ;)
12:02 < huebi> ok
12:02 < huebi> join #flood ?
12:03 < holyolli> mompl
12:05 < holyolli> < o.k. - ich bin drin >
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12:05 < huebi> root@imf001c3:~# cowsay muuh |wall *LOL*
12:05 < holyolli>  
12:05 < holyolli> *rotfl*
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12:05 < holyolli> huhu tsa 
12:05 < tsa> cowsay -f small moin.
12:07 < holyolli> cowthink is esden noch da?
12:10 < holyolli> .oO( "cowsay huhu esden | mail -s kuhgruss esden@rocklinux.org" )
12:10 < esden> ...
12:10 < esden> ja ich bin noch da ...
12:10 < tsa> hi esden...
12:11 < esden> und ich wurde gerade von blindcoder gestoppt dich zu kicken ... also wenn er wieder da ist bedanke dich bei ihm ;-)
12:12 < holyolli> *g*
12:12 < huebi>  /exec cowsay huhu esden 
12:13 < esden> ...
12:15 * huebi is thinking about if a kernel is really nessesary for the cows....
12:15 < esden> ok ab jetzt werde ich meine compile outputs im channel posten ;-)
12:15 < holyolli> mach doch :Ü
12:15 < huebi>  /exec echo /dev/random ??
12:15 < esden> huebi: ok
12:16 < huebi>  /exec echo /dev/cow/[1-256] 
12:16 < huebi>  /exec cat /dev/cow/[1-256] - now it wuergs
12:29 < tsa> hm....
12:29 < huebi>  Zuku"nftige dRock-Entwicklung zum Mergen mit Baum des FELSENS 1,7 
12:29 < tsa> insmod cowsay.o
12:30 < huebi> lol
12:30 < tsa> jo
12:30 < holyolli> hehe
12:30 < huebi> babelfish halt
12:31 < tsa> FELSEN Linux - dieses schaukelt Sie!
12:31 < holyolli> *lol
12:32 < tomik> :))
12:32 < tomik> cow... 
12:34 < tsa> aus dem ML-Archuiv
12:34 < tsa> dRock 1,4,1;  Seiltänzerlesersystemabstürze
12:35 < huebi> Muuuuh! *LOOOL*
12:35 < tsa> na, wer erraet es?
12:35 < holyolli> .oO(weia)
12:35 < tsa> nich nachgucken.
12:35 < holyolli> <-- sieht es schon auf tsas moni
12:35 < holyolli> ;)
12:35 < tsa> ....und die Loesung ist:
12:35 < tsa> dRock 1.4.1; Acrobat reader crashes
12:35 < huebi> jaa
12:36 < tsa> das ist pervers.
12:36 < huebi> hab ich's doch nicht gewusst ;)
12:36 < tsa> hehe
12:36 < huebi> Gesellschaftsfreudige Huelsenfruchte?
12:36 < huebi> Kontaktlinsen ;-)
12:37 < holyolli> *lol*
12:37 < tsa> LOL
12:37 < huebi> tsa: You need the SUN Patches, don't you?
12:38 < tsa> huebi: sure i do.
12:38 < huebi> Do you've got a tape drive?
12:38 < tsa> Ich diskreditiere nicht den CVS-Behälter, wann immer ich kann!
12:38 < tsa> haha
12:38 < tsa> huebi: dds3.
12:39 < tsa>   Vendor: HP        Model: C1537A            Rev: L708
12:39 < huebi> ok. I've got a SGI Sony DDS3. I put it on tape and send it to you. What make is your drive?
12:40 < huebi> Ah, I see
12:40 < tsa> are sgi dds drives anything special? hvd?
12:41 < huebi> no, but DDS3 is not DDS3
12:41 < tsa> hm....
12:42 < huebi> The Sony has one more head inside. If I recorded some data with Sony it was _very_slow on HP.
12:43 < tsa> and the other way round - can the sony drive read tapes faster that were written on hp?
12:44 < huebi> tsa: I never tested that.
12:45 < tsa> off for breakfast....bbl.
12:45 -!- tsa is now known as tsa|eat
12:45 < huebi> guten Hunger
12:45 < tsa|eat> danke.
12:45 < huebi> tsa|eat: Schmatz nicht so laut ;_
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12:55 < anders> re
12:59 < fake> hi
13:13 < fake> hm... 
13:13 < fake> what do i need the dietlibc for?
13:13 < fake> in 1.7
13:14 < anders> fake: I guess if you wanna do embedded stuff, of install a very tiny system..
13:14 < anders> glibc is rather big...
13:15 < huebi> fake: esden is working on dietlibc
13:16 < anders> huebi/esden: what are the space savings with the dietlibc compared to the full glibc? any loss of functionality in the dietlibc?
13:16 < fake> no i mean
13:16 < fake> do i NEED it for any other package?
13:16 < fake> or may i safely ignore it?
13:18 < huebi> fake: ignore it. It's, like anders said, for very small subdists
13:20 < huebi> anders: I never used dietlibc
13:20 < fake> (i knew what it IS, i jsut wanted to knwo what it has to do with rock ;) but thanks)
13:20 < fake> rock-generic
13:21 < fake> hwo can i exclude a package from a build?
13:33 < fake> damn it
13:34 < fake> Removing old stuff in build/1.7.0-DEV-mips-generic-expert-find/tools/ ...
13:34 < fake> Creating build/1.7.0-DEV-mips-generic-expert-find/tools/bin/cc-wrapper ...
13:34 < fake>  /usr/mips-unknown-linux/lib/crt1.o: In function `__start':
13:34 < fake>  /usr/mips-unknown-linux/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x4c): undefined reference to `__libc_start_main'
13:34 < fake>  /tmp/cc9yEBTf.o: In function `main':
13:35 < fake>  /tmp/cc9yEBTf.o(.text+0x88): undefined reference to `getenv'
13:35 < fake> ... (continues for a hell lot of lines and functions) ...
13:35 < fake>  /usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-unknown-linux/2.95.3/libgcc.a(__main.o): In function `__do_global_ctors':
13:35 < fake> __main.o(.text+0x14c): undefined reference to `atexit'
13:35 < fake> babumm
13:38 < fake> its not linking against the glibc?
13:48 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.3.250] has joined #rocklinux
13:49 < fake> cliff!
13:49 < clifford> hi
13:49 < fake> i need you!
13:49 < clifford> wie geht's der indy?
13:49 < fake> not as good as it should
13:49 < fake> it built the glibc, binutils and gcc2
13:49 < clifford> aha - i see. what's the problem?
13:50 < fake> but if i chroot into the root
13:50 < fake> and gen a printf("Hello, World");
13:50 < fake> .c file
13:50 < fake> and try gcc
13:50 < fake> it says:
13:50 < fake> indigo:/external/rock-src/build/1.7.0-DEV-mips-generic-expert-find/root# chroot . /bin/bash
13:51 < fake> # gcc -o test ./test.c
13:51 < fake>  /usr/mips-unknown-linux/lib/crt1.o: In function `__start':
13:51 < fake>  /usr/mips-unknown-linux/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x4c): undefined reference to `__libc_start_main'
13:51 < fake>  /tmp/cc5ikee5.o: In function `main':
13:51 < fake>  /tmp/cc5ikee5.o(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `printf'
13:51 < fake>  /usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-unknown-linux/2.95.3/libgcc.a(__main.o): In function `__do_global_ctors':
13:51 < fake>  __main.o(.text+0x14c): undefined reference to `atexit'
13:51 < fake> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
13:51 < clifford> gibc compiled without any poblems and installed correctly?
13:52 < fake> it said so
13:52 < clifford> is it possible that I can login to your indy remotly?
13:52 < fake> jop
13:52 < fake> just a sec
13:52 < clifford> great.
13:54 < fake> plz tell me what you do ;)
13:55 < huebi> or use screen :-)
13:55 < fake> huebi *g*
13:55 < fake> clifford : debian >_<
13:56 < clifford> fake: could you create /home/clifford pls?
13:56 < fake> ocourse ;))
13:57 < fake> should be there now
14:04 < clifford> fake: seltsam - es sieht so aus als ob gcc standardmaessig beim erstellen eines binaries nicht gegen libc linkt ..
14:05 < fake> ... achne... ;)
14:05 < fake> ich habe uebrigens schon von hand /etc/ld.so.conf angelegt, war aber umsons..
14:05 < fake> +t
14:08 < holyolli> re
14:09 < holyolli> moin clifford :)
14:09 < holyolli> hi fake
14:09 -!- tsa|eat is now known as tsa
14:09 < fake> hi!
14:09 < holyolli> eat??
14:09 < holyolli> tsa: ich dachte, wir hätten ebn gekickert?
14:09 < holyolli> *wunder*
14:10 < fake> tsa hunt animal tsa eat
14:10 < tsa> holyolli: jaja....sei ruhig und arbeite.
14:10 < fake> ;)
14:10 < tsa> hehe
14:10 < holyolli> tsa: arbyten == www.ebay.de?
14:10 < tsa> ACK:
14:10 < holyolli> .oO(treffer)
14:10 < tsa> hehe.
14:14 < clifford> fake: im gcc spec file ist die lib section leer:
14:14 < clifford>  /external/rock-src/build/1.7.0-DEV-mips-generic-expert-find/root/usr/lib/gcc-lib/mips-unknown-linux/2.95.3/specs
14:14 < fake> aha?
14:15 < fake> warum?
14:16 < clifford> das weiss ich nicht. jedenfalls hab ichs jetzt haendisch gefixed:
14:17 < clifford> nach der zeile '*lib:' gehoert eingefuegt:
14:17 < fake> ah, eine a.out in / ;)
14:17 < clifford> %{shared: -lc}    %{!shared: %{mieee-fp:-lieee} %{pthread:-lpthread}    %{profile:-lc_p} %{!profile: -lc}}
14:17 < fake> (chrooted /)
14:17 < clifford> fake: ja - bei deinem printf hast du uebrigens das \n vergessen ..
14:17 < fake> cliff> meine map kann grade ein backslash
14:18 < fake> die geschweiften klammern hatte ich per cut & paste ;)
14:18 < clifford> fake: das ist in der tat schlecht ... :-)
14:18 < fake> clifford was kann ich jetzt machen damit das beim naechsten build nicht wieder passiert?
14:19 < clifford> fake: das versuche ich grad' rauszufinden.
14:19 < fake> gut......
14:19 < clifford> .. ich hab' dir uerigens das \n eingesetzt ..  :-)
14:19 < fake> dietlibc will auch nuesch aba das is mir estmal egal.
14:20 < fake> clifford: cool, danke dann hab ich jetzt immer eins zum cut&pasten ;)
14:20 < clifford> fake: dietlibc ist im augenblick auch nicht wirklich wichtig ..
14:20 < fake> eben ^^
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14:25 < clifford> fake: gcc builden braucht auf der kiste eine stunde?!  (ouch!)
14:26 < huebi> E4500 <- Sloowlaris. weia, weia, weia! Needs 20s for scp 100MB. pc to pc 9-11s
14:26 < fake> clifford: jop. schau erst gar nicht nach wie lange glibc braucht...
14:26 * clifford hat sich naemlich ueberlegt gcc neu zu builden.
14:26 < fake> und clifford: nicht die zeit umstellen... sond hakt die find-methode aus ;)
14:26 < fake> clifford: kein problem, meinerseits...
14:27 < fake> ich hab mit der kiste sonst nix vor ;)
14:27 < clifford> aber eins meinersets - ich muss naemlich bald wieder weg ...  :-)
14:27 < fake> soll ich ihn neu bauen und dir das log schicken oder so?
14:27 < fake> aber... was bringt es wenn ich ihn neu bau?
14:28 < clifford> kannst du einfach Build-Target wieder anwerfen und sehen wie weit er kommt?
14:28 < fake> dann kommt doch wieder ein spec ohne libs raus, oder?
14:28 < fake> oder hast du was veraendert?
14:29 < clifford> vorher oder nachher (eher vorher) waere ein "./scripts/Build-Pkg -1 -root build/1.7.0-DEV-mips-generic-expert-find/root -noclearsrc gcc2" gut.
14:29 < fake> mach ich doch glatt
14:29 < fake> und rm _nodel_ oder?
14:30 < clifford> fake: gcc2 in stage 1 wird ja nicht automatisch nochmal gebuilded und in den darueberliegenden stages wird moeglicherwese das spec file richtig erstellt ...
14:30 < fake> koennte natuerlich sein. waere aber doof ;)
14:30 < clifford> fake: _nodel_ brauchst du nicht mehr weil in 1.7 Build-Target sowieso kein Cleanup aufruft ..
14:30 < clifford> also zuerst obriges command.
14:31 < fake> aha? Dokumetation luegt ;)
14:31 < fake> okay, und dann Build-Target
14:31 < clifford> dann wieder haendisches fixen des spec files (copier's die vorher einfach weg :-).
14:31 < clifford> dann Build-Target
14:31 < fake> okeee
14:31 < clifford> in welcher doku ist noch _nodel_ drinnen?
14:32 < fake> in meiner? nicht?
14:32 < fake> kann sein dass ichs mit der 1.5er verdreht ha
14:33 < clifford> aha. Ich blaib' noch kurz auf der kist um den flist wrapper zu testen ..
14:33 < fake> oke, dann wart ich noch.
14:34 < clifford> fake: brauchst' nicht - ich brauch dazu die ROCK Build umgebung nicht, nur die hardware und ein directory fuer meine temp files ...  :-)
14:34 < fake> axo... bedien dich
14:35 < fake> == 21:34:41 =[1]=> Building base/gcc2 [2.95.3 1.7.0-DEV-200204161451].
14:36 < fake> clifford: jetzt duerfte die liste halt arschlahm sein
14:37 < clifford> fake: ich merk's
14:39 < clifford> fake: der flist wrapper steckt in einer endlos-rekursion beim abfangen von strace. anstatt die originalfunktion aufzurufen ruft er sich staendig selbst auf ...
14:40 < clifford> fake: doch nicht - aber fast ...   :-)
14:42 < esden> re hi al
14:42 < esden> l
14:42 < holyolli> re esden
14:42 < huebi> hi esden 
14:42 < holyolli> esden: kühe?
14:42 < esden> back home sweet home
14:42 < esden> endlich wochenende
14:43 < huebi> esden: Noch mehr Kühe?
14:44 < SMP> gnnn
14:44 < holyolli> <-- mag lieber elche
14:45 < tsa> hehe
14:45 < tsa> wie schmecken die denn?
14:45 < holyolli> lecker!
14:45 < SMP> *roehr*
14:45 < holyolli> *messerzück* ;)
14:45 < tsa> SMP: vorsicht, sonst wirst du geschlachtet..
14:45 < huebi>  cowsay -f elch *roehr*
14:45 < tsa> hehe
14:46 < tsa> SMP: www.rocklinux.de laeuft doch bei dir.....wieviel traffic gibt das so?
14:46 < esden> clifford: wie oft werden die mirrors gesyncht ?
14:47 < fake> hi esden
14:47 < esden> clifford: ich meine die www mirrors
14:47 < esden> hi fake 
14:48 < clifford> esden: siehe comment im html-code auf www.rocklinux.org.
14:48 -!- blindy|sleep is now known as blindcoder
14:48 < esden> re blindcoder 
14:48 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
14:48 < SMP> tsa: oeh
14:48 < netcrow> re blindcoder 
14:49 < esden> muahaha ... ist netscape scheisse 
14:50 < fake> hi crash!
14:51 < fake> mozilla 1.0 should be released soon... right?
14:51 < tsa> SMP: hast du ne chance, da irgendwie an zahlen ranzukommen? 
14:52 < tsa> koennte etvl nen mirror hier aufsetzen...
14:52 < SMP> tsa: der www mirror alleine 30-50 MB pro Tag im IP accounting
14:53 < SMP> das ist so wenig, das schau ich gar nicht an ;>
14:53 < tsa> hehe
14:54 < fake> *wait*
14:54 < SMP> ausser Clifford linkt download.rocklinux.de auf der Homepage dann sind es schon mal >2,5GB pro Tag :}
14:54 < tsa> hehe
14:54 * -> esden braucht immer noch die daten fuer leo.org so dass ich die jungs anschreiben kann...
14:55 < holyolli> wasn für daten?
14:55 < huebi> holyolli: Die mailadresse ;>
14:55 < esden> SMP: als ich dass den leo.org leuten gesagt habe dann haben die nur noch gelacht ;-)
14:55 < fake> schuhgroesse
14:56 < fake> freunde des beleuchters,,
14:56 < tsa>  ftp-admin@leo.org
14:56 < tsa> ?
14:56 * holyolli muss grad einfach mal so wieder an kühe denken.... ;-)
14:56 < fake> leute die wir nicht kennen, die aber in der naehe von clifford wohnen...
14:56 < fake> die exfrau des ftp-admins
14:57 < fake> meine rote jacke
14:57 < esden> ich brauche folgonde daten: wieviel festplatten platz wir brauchen. wie oft sich die struktur des ftp veraendert, wie viele benutzer unsere distribution braucht...
14:57 < esden> dass ist glaube ich alles soweit ich weiss...
14:57 < fake> achsooo
14:58 < fake> unsere distribution hat ein maximum von 5 parallell arbeitenden benutzern, mehr kosten 100$ each.
14:58 < fake> pro stunde
14:58 < SMP> esden: LEO haengt am WiN und da muss man nur hereinkommenden Traffic bezahlen ...
14:58 < huebi> SMP: Was is WiN?
14:58 < fake> wie beim wasser - da zahlt man auch nich das was rausgeht
14:58 < holyolli> huebi: deutsches forschungsnetz
14:59 < SMP> huebi: Deutches Forschungsnetz
14:59 < huebi> heist das nicht DFN?
14:59 < netcrow> fake: *rofl*
14:59 < SMP> GWiN ist das Netz des DFN
14:59 < huebi> also vor 18 Jahren hiess das noch so
14:59 < SMP> Gigabit WissenschaftsNetz
14:59 < esden> SMP: neim soweit ich weiss nicht ... wenigstens der mirror admin hat nichts davon gesagt ...
14:59 < fake> tolle abkuerzung
15:00 < esden> aber ich kann da mal am montag vorbeigehen ... denn LEO = TUM = meine uni ;-)
15:00 < SMP> esden: warum sollte er darueber reden
15:00 < fake> esden is der TUM RIDER!
15:00 < fake> esden Croft ;)
15:01 < netcrow> hehe
15:01 < esden> SMP: hmm vielleicht weil es interessant ist ?
15:01 < esden> SMP: denn wenn wir was zahlen muessen kommt es nicht in frage ...
15:01 < fake> rtlanal.c ?
15:01 < SMP> esden: ach, vergiss diese Diskussion
15:01 < fake> <-- wird heute seinen boss nach dem HP/900 fragen ;)
15:02 < fake> vielleicht krieg ich die kiste
15:02 < esden> SMP: ok ... wenn du meinst ...
15:02 < SMP> esden: ich meine nicht das Gespraech mit LEO!
15:03 < SMP> Fakt ist, WiN berechnet nur incoming traffic und deshalb koennen die ganzen Mirrors im WiN uberleben
15:03 < clifford> wiese arbeiten die ELF dynamic loading funktionen anders unter linux/mips ?!?
15:04 < esden> SMP: aja gut zu wissen ... ich wusste es nicht ... heisst dass dass wir was bezahlen muessen ?
15:04 < SMP> esden: ARGL
15:04 < esden> SMP: sooorrryyy ... 
15:05 < fake> *lol* ad esden und SMP ;)
15:05 < fake> clifford: reductionism.
15:05 < huebi> esden: Muuh!
15:05 < SMP> esden: wenn du jemanden um einen Gefallen bittest, der ihn nicht mal was kostet, erwartest du dann etwas bezahlen zu muessen?!
15:05 < fake> moh, i'm just a cow.
15:06 < esden> SMP: nein ... nicht wirklich ...
15:06 < clifford> esden: idialist.   :-)
15:06 < fake> SMP: wenn ich ein weibliches wesen frage ob sie... das kostet sie nichts... aber...
15:06 < esden> clifford: tja mei ...
15:06 < fake> *denk*
15:07 < SMP> clifford: du hast nicht zufaellig noch nen 1HE Rechner bei dir uebrig? ich kenn da einen Deppenverein in Oestereich, der die billig mit 'unlimited traffic' housed
15:07 < fake> doch, kostet ueberwindung ;))
15:07 < SMP> clifford: denen wuerd ich gern man zeigen was 'unlimited traffic' heisst :-]]
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15:07 < fake> hi hackbard !
15:07 < holyolli> hi hackbard
15:08 < netcrow> hi hackbard 
15:08 < hackbard> moin
15:08 < huebi> SMP: ... und 24Monate Vertragsbindung bei 99,9999% Netzverfuegbarkeit 100MBit full duplex. The net is the computer, hehe
15:09 < SMP> huebi: wenn ich privat das Geld uebrig haett, wuerd ich's machen
15:09 < clifford> SMP: hmmm - ich hab' niwe eine 1HE kiste gehabt - aber dafuer koennt ich mir ja ne pizzabox kaufen .. die investition is schnell drinnen ...  :-)
15:09 < fake> costa quanta?
15:10 < SMP> na wie heissen sie noch ..
15:10 < fake> wieviel is denn nu "billig" ?
15:10 < esden> clifford: kriege ich dann die daten ? so dass ich die leo leute deswegen nerven kann? es hat mich schon jetzt halben tag rumgelaufe und rumgefrage gekostet ... deshalb wuerde ich gerne dass weiter verfolgen ... (ja ich weiss manchmal muss man wochenlang latschen um was zu erlaedigen ... trotzdem ...)
15:11 -!- Kuh [~huebi@pD9E1CE4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
15:11 < fake> Muuh!
15:11 < Kuh> muh
15:11 < holyolli> *röhr*
15:11 < fake> Muehbi!
15:11 < SMP> ah
15:11 < SMP> http://www.issp.at/
15:12 < Kuh> Rofl
15:12 < huebi> *click*
15:12 < fake> Ein junges, dynamisches Team bestehend aus zwei sehr guten Freunden
15:12 < fake> schwul. garantiert.
15:13 < tsa> hehehe
15:13 < fake> die preise sind in euro, nehme ich an?
15:14 < fake> 6 monate vertragsbindung...
15:14 < fake> also viel steht da ja nuescht
15:15 < huebi> Stundensatz EUR 25,- (exkl. USt.)
15:15 < esden> die sind in paar monaten pleite ...
15:15 < clifford> esden: ich weiss selber nichts. Keine ahnung wie viel transfer ueber die mirrors lauft (hab' keinen zugang zu den logs).
15:15 < huebi> die will ich haben. Meine Privatschergen
15:16 < huebi> ups pro 15min. Ich will doch nicht.
15:16 < esden> clifford: ok ... dann mussma warten bis wir es wissen ... davor brauche ich mich bei denen zeigen lassen ...
15:16 < fake> huebi> ich arbeit fuer dich fuer 50 Mark/Stunde
15:18 < fake> SSP ist weiters zur sofortigen Vertragsauflösung oder Dienstunterbrechung bzw. -abschaltung berechtigt, wenn ihm das Verhalten des Kunden oder ihm zuzurechnender Personen die Fortsetzung des Vertragsverhältnisses unzumutbar macht.
15:18 < huebi> 100Kb/s nicht so richtig schnell
15:19 < fake> d.h.: leecht du zu viel klemmen sie dich ab
15:20 < fake> Der Kunde erklärt sich einverstanden, von ISSP Werbung und Informationen betreffend Produkte und Services von ISSP oder Geschäftspartnern von ISSP in angemessenem Umfang per E-Mail zu erhalten. 
15:20 < SMP> fake: die AGB sind ein Quell von Freude
15:20 < SMP> naja, der Werbung kann man Widersprechen
15:20 < fake> o_O
15:20 < huebi> Mit denen muss man einen wasserdichten Vertrag aufsetzen. Nicht so richtig lustig, die Jungs.
15:20 < blindcoder> ein guter eintrag in .procmailrc  wirkt da wunder @fake
15:20 < SMP> allein schon die Anwedung von US-Recht in DE/AT
15:21 < SMP> grossartig
15:21 < fake> blindcoder: ich will aber keine werbung! 
15:21 < blindcoder>  /dev/null ist dein freund @fake
15:21 * SMP schwoert auf TMDA
15:21 < SMP> seitdem _keine_ junkmail mehr
15:21 < huebi> TMDA?
15:21 < SMP> tmda.sf.net
15:22 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux
15:22 < armijn> re
15:22 < huebi> *click*
15:22 < esden> re armijn 
15:22 < armijn> sorry, no patches yet, gotta run more tests first
15:22 < fake> Korneuburg,
15:22 < Kuh> Muh, armijn muh!
15:22 < fake> armijn: glibc built ;)
15:22 < armijn> kuh: go give milk.
15:23 < armijn> fake: great! anything failed?
15:23 < armijn> fake: so, you can add mips to the config menu now :)
15:23 < esden> armijn: == 22:46:58 04/16/02 =[4]=> Finished building package gimp. <<- this compile runs on alpha ;-)
15:23 < fake> gcc2 left the lib-section of the spec-file empty, as clifford pointed out
15:23 < huebi> holyolli: cowsay -f moose Weil ich der Elch bin...
15:23 < holyolli> huebi: *fg* jo
15:24 < fake> armijn: and dietlibc won't assemble
15:24 < fake> armijn: but the rest was fine until now
15:24 < armijn> fake: forget about dietlibc
15:24 < fake> sure ;)
15:24 < armijn> fake: wow, sounds like MIPS is actually easier than sparc...
15:24 < fake> no, i'm just outgeeking you ;P
15:25 < armijn> esden: I'm not even considering building X stuff
15:25 < armijn> fake: including all the optional packages?
15:25 < esden> armijn: yes sure ...
15:25 < esden> but I tried and it works ... so why not ... ;-)
15:25 < fake> armijn: i just finished stage 1
15:25 < armijn> fake: but will you build the optional packages?
15:25 < fake> esden: you can use xdmcp ;)
15:26 < armijn> esden: that's great...but for sparc I will stick to just base
15:26 < fake> armijn: when i finished everything else, sure, why not
15:26 < armijn> fake: so, you can make patches now...huebi looooooooves patches
15:26 < esden> armijn: sure ... 
15:26 < esden> fake: xdmcp ???
15:26 < fake> huebi? i'm at 1.7
15:27 < fake> esden: xdmcp braodcast...
15:27 < armijn> fake: can you try 1.5 as well?
15:27 < fake> armijn: why? why not? i had the 1.7 sources reay.
15:27 < fake> *ready
15:27 < huebi> fake: I will adopt your patches in 1.5
15:28 < armijn> hmm...so that's going to be weird...
15:28 < armijn> sparc suport, but no mips support in 1.5
15:28 < armijn> and mips support, but no sparc in 1.7 :)
15:28 < fake> okay... but be patient with me
15:28 < esden> I do not think that fake can get the mips port stable before 1.6 will be released ... or what do you think fake ?
15:28 < armijn> fake: no we won't.
15:28 < huebi> fake: jo
15:28 < armijn> fake: just give up your sleep.
15:29 < fake> armijn: what sleep ?
15:29 < armijn> huebi: still I haven't seen some "official" drawing line of what you call 1.6
15:29 < armijn> fake: ehr...ok :)
15:29 < fake> esden: a stable development version?
15:29 < huebi> armijn: I hope to get it done this weekend.
15:30 < armijn> huebi: good.
15:30 < armijn> been working my ass off on some docs as well.
15:30 < armijn> will take them monday...
15:30 < fake> the use of `mktemp' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' ?
15:31 < armijn> hehe...that sounds like...gcc?
15:31 < fake> bingo!
15:31 < armijn> heh :)
15:31 -!- thalerim [~be@p508135C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
15:32 < esden> XDMCP (X Display Manager Control Protocol)
15:32 < armijn> huebi: sorry for pushing you so much
15:32 < fake> esden: it's what solaris does all the time... with x sessions running on a server and so on.
15:32 < esden> ahh ...
15:33 < fake> i have it on my route >_< i was curious
15:33 < fake> *router
15:33 < Kuh>  __________________________________ 
15:33 < Kuh> < Armijn: Don't push huebi so hard >
15:33 < Kuh>  ---------------------------------- 
15:33 < Kuh>   \
15:33 < Kuh>    \   \_\_    _/_/
15:33 < Kuh>     \      \__/
15:33 < Kuh>            (oo)\_______
15:33 < Kuh>            (__)\       )\/\
15:33 < Kuh>                ||----w |
15:33 < Kuh>                ||     ||
15:34 < armijn> Kuh is just there for statistics, right?
15:34 < huebi> no armijn
15:34 < huebi> it's a cow ghost
15:34 < armijn> I know it's a cow
15:34 < fake> gives me the creeps... *shiver*
15:34 < huebi> looking like a moose. holyolli likes that
15:34 < armijn> makes evil ghost cowmilk
15:35 < armijn> which is then used for making ghost milkchocolate
15:35 < holyolli> jepp!
15:35 < fake> glows-in-the-dark-milk
15:35 < armijn> glow in the dark chocolate?!?
15:35 < thalerim> huebi: upload was right so?
15:35 < fake> groovy!
15:35 < huebi> thalerim: Yes, thank you
15:35 < Kuh>  _____________ 
15:35 < Kuh> < supermilker >
15:35 < Kuh>  ------------- 
15:35 < Kuh>   \   ^__^
15:35 < Kuh>    \  (oo)\_______        ________
15:35 < Kuh>       (__)\       )\/\    |Super |
15:35 < Kuh>           ||----W |       |Milker|
15:35 < Kuh>           ||    UDDDDDDDDD|______|
15:35 * -> esden does not have now any abligations about the cow ... if she stays under her own nick 
15:36 < armijn> huebi: an idea in mind about a date for 1.6?
15:36 < armijn> a target date?
15:36 < esden> s/abligations/obligations/
15:36 < thalerim> huebi: inja is the best one (imo) :)=
15:36 < huebi> armijn: I make a schedule for 1.6 saturday morning
15:38 < Kuh> test for /ignore
15:38 < huebi> hmmm
15:38 < fake> strange: Checking wether gcc compiler works.... no. 
15:38 * SMP wishes his /ignore would work
15:38 < fake> Can not create executables
15:38 < fake> and then: Build succeded.
15:38 < huebi>  /ignore Kuh <-did not work, hmmm
15:38 < armijn>  /ignore Kuh all
15:39 < huebi>  ___________ 
15:39 < huebi> < Ignore me >
15:39 < huebi>  ----------- 
15:39 < huebi> uups
15:39 < thalerim> bullsh!t :)
15:39 < thalerim> :P
15:39 < Kuh> < Ignore me >
15:40 < huebi>  /ignore Kuh all<-did not work,too
15:40 < esden>  /help ignore
15:40 < thalerim> ./exec killall kuh
15:42 < armijn> I suggest we kill the cow, butcher it and have a BBQ
15:42 < fake> hunting! meat! eat!
15:42 < Kuh> < I have BSE >
15:43 < Kuh>  ------------ 
15:43 < Kuh>         \   ^__^
15:43 < Kuh>          \  (oo)\_______
15:43 < Kuh>             (__)\       )\/\
15:43 < Kuh>                 ||----w |
15:43 < Kuh>                 ||     ||
15:43 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o SMP] by ChanServ
15:43 -!- Kuh [~huebi@pD9E1CE4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux (requested by SMP)
15:43 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o SMP] by SMP
15:43 < fake> *LOL*
15:43 < thalerim> mjam
15:43 < armijn> BSD?
15:43 < fake> SMP is great hunter
15:44 -!- Kuh [~huebi@pD9E1CE4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
15:44 -!- Be-El [~blinke@jake.Genetik.Uni-Bielefeld.DE] has joined #rocklinux
15:44 < fake> me will paint wall of chatroom with painting of SMP hunter
15:44 < Be-El> hi ppl
15:44 < armijn> huebi: I don't like that cow.
15:45 < holyolli> moin bl
15:45 < huebi> armijn: The cow it a hidden dragon
15:45 < Be-El> damned curl.....
15:45 < clifford> fake: die flist wrapper lib funktioniert jetzt auch mit mips
15:45 < Be-El> it was a _BAD_ idea to use curl...the handling of proxies is broken
15:46 < fake> clifford: kann es sein dass ich sie grade benutze?
15:46 < armijn> clifford: it doesn't (yet) work on sparc
15:46 < clifford> fake: das sollte den build ein wenig beschleunigen.
15:46 < fake> clifford: oder ... noe
15:46 < fake> clifford: hast du dir nen patch gemacht?
15:47 -!- Kuh [~huebi@pD9E1CE4A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving")
15:47 < clifford> armijn: shall I send you the new version with dccp? it should also work on sparc ..
15:47 < fake> Kuh is going to next field
15:47 < armijn> clifford: hmm...is it backwards compatible with 1.5?
15:48 < fake> clifford: have you put it into the rock-src dir or is it in your temp dir?
15:48 < clifford> fake: due muesstest die config aendern und das build-dir entsprechend verschieben ..
15:48 < armijn> clifford: because I do the port based on 1.5 (1.7 too much of a moving target)
15:49 < clifford> fake: I;ve applied already the patch.
15:49 < tsa> SMP: www2.rocklinux.de IN A 217.14.168.4  <-- bitte eintragen
15:49 < fake> clifford: then i'll enjoy the speed with the next build
15:49 * tsa setting up mirror.
15:49 < clifford> armijn: the patch should also work with 1.5 ...
15:49 < fake> now it's only a test-of-difficulty
15:49 < holyolli> von wo muss denn gersynct werden?
15:49 -!- thalerim is now known as thAlerim
15:50 < armijn> k
15:50 < tsa> clifford: rsync fuer die webseiten - wie?
15:51 < clifford> rsync://www.rocklinux.org/rocklinux-webpage
15:51 < tsa> ok.
15:52 < armijn> clifford: if the new flist works with 1.5, huebi should backport it
15:52 < SMP> tsa: 
15:52 < SMP> #!/bin/bash
15:52 < SMP> exec 2>&1
15:52 < SMP> rsync -rltzv --delete rsync://www.rocklinux.org/rocklinux-webpage/ ~/www.rocklinux.de/htdocs/
15:52 < SMP> echo '+www2.rocklinux.de:217.14.168.4:7200' >> zone-fun/rocklinux.de/10_all && gmake dist
15:52 < SMP> done.
15:53 < clifford> armijn: I've send you the patch
15:53 < clifford> (it will be in the next snap anyways)
15:53 < holyolli> SMP: wie oft rsynct ihr die anderen server?
15:54 < clifford> huebi: kann ich dir den fl_wrapper patch per dcc schicken?
15:54 < armijn> clifford; great
15:54 < huebi> clifford: jo, probier mal
15:54 < SMP> holyolli: eh? jeder Admin eines Mirrors regelt das selbst. ich einmal am Tag in der Nacht
15:54 * fake geht in seine Firma- Heute wird gecounterd ;)
15:55 < armijn> hmm...time to get a free beer...I think...
15:55 < armijn> it's Heineken, but it's free...
15:55 < armijn> hmm...tough choice...
15:55 < fake> Marketing&Finanzen = CounterTerrorist, Entwicklung&GF: Terrorists *gg*
15:55 < armijn> it's Heineken...but it's free...
15:55 < holyolli> SMP: das wollte ich eigendlich auch nur wissen...
15:55 < huebi> armijn: Drink more milk!
15:55 < huebi> cow says
15:55 < armijn> "Kuh" should drink more beer...
15:56 < fake> i wonder how milk of cow who drinks beer taste?
15:57 < huebi> fake: "hopfig"
15:57 < fake> huebi: "garschtig"
15:57 < clifford> huebi: hast du den dcc offer bekommen?
15:57 < fake> also, ich bin meine vorgesetzten abknallen. 
15:57 < fake> clifford: danke nochmal!
15:57 < huebi> clifford: jo, und /dcc get hat irgendwie nicht funktioniert
15:57 < fake> *wink*
15:58 < fake> set DCC_AUTOGET
15:58 < fake> ;)
15:58 < clifford> huebi: grrrr ....
15:58 < tsa> clifford: rsync is running.
15:58 < blindcoder> esden> ich hab .hack//sign teil 2 ;)
15:58 < tsa> responsible: rock@marcant.net  - will go to /me and holyolli
15:59 < clifford> huebi: hab' ein e-mail geschickt ..
15:59 < huebi> clifford: /set DCC_AUTOGET <- geht das jetzt?
15:59 < huebi> mail ist da ;)
16:00 < huebi> DCC can't connect to 192.168.69.17 port 34801 ??
16:00 < clifford> huebi: aha - moment ...
16:01 < clifford> huebi: wleche ip hat er jetzt?
16:02 < huebi> Kuh is on place 26 in the stats
16:02 < huebi> DCC SEND from clifford [192.168.69.17 port 34803]: x [826 bytes]
16:02 < clifford> grr...
16:02 < clifford> bin gleich wieder da ..
16:02 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.3.250] has quit ("Client Exiting")
16:05 -!- clifford [~clifford@M098P004.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
16:06 < clifford> da bin ich wieder ..
16:06 < tsa> clifford: 
16:06 < tsa> 30 2 * * * /var/www/update-rock.sh >/dev/null
16:06 < holyolli> re clifford
16:06 -!- rxr_fh is now known as rxr
16:06 < rxr> hi
16:06 < clifford> tsa: hostname?
16:06 < tsa> www2.rocklinux.de
16:06 < tsa> dns kindly sponsored by SMP ;)
16:07 < SMP> doesn't work
16:07 < huebi> clifford: DCC SEND from clifford [62.46.2.36 port 34807]: x [826 bytes]
16:07 < clifford> connection refused: www2.rocklinux.org
16:07 < SMP> Trying 217.14.168.4...
16:07 < SMP> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host
16:07 < holyolli> args
16:07 < tsa> cisco...
16:07 < holyolli> <-- macht grad nen paar cisco-acls
16:07 < holyolli> ;)
16:08 < clifford> huebi: d.h. du hast das file?
16:08 < huebi> clifford: nee, ist nicht hier angekommen
16:08 < holyolli> SMP: so...müsste nu tun
16:09 < SMP> nope
16:09 < clifford> huebi: jetzt ist es timed out. 
16:09 < clifford> huebi: egal - hast es eh' per e-mail ..
16:10 < huebi> clifford: Probier nochmal bitte
16:10 < clifford> fake: wo bist' hin? ich bin auf einmal allein auf der indy ..
16:10 < esden> re ...
16:10 < netcrow> der is zocken
16:10 < esden> ahh ich liebe essen ;-)
16:10 * -> esden hat immer noch hunger
16:10 < huebi>  /dcc get
16:10 < huebi>  DCC can't connect to 62.46.2.36 port 34812
16:10 < clifford> und ich fuercht' mich doch im dunkeln auf einer fremden maschiene ..
16:11 < netcrow> hehe
16:11 < esden>  /dcc get essen
16:11 < clifford> huebi: aha - wahrscheinlich hab' ich das IRC nat modul nicht geladen. is' ja auch egal ..
16:11 < huebi> clifford: die bits sind nicht gefaehrlich, nur die Bytes
16:12 < esden> ja in gruppen sind die immer gefaehrlich ... vorallem wenn die 100G uebersteigen
16:13 < esden> clifford: <- mail sent
16:13 < Be-El> schneidet einfach das MSB ab, dann verlieren die anderen den mut
16:14 < huebi> Ich schwoere auf 4-Bit CPUs!
16:14 < esden> huebi: falsch ... du meinst microcontroler ...
16:15 < Be-El> huebi: ist eigentlich ne ganz einfache sache....n-bit CPU, wobei n = anzahl der biere, die der besitzer an einem abend trinken kann
16:15 < esden> uii
16:15 * huebi <- get the new 512Bit Athlon ;)
16:16 < holyolli> SMP: auf den routern war das noch alles gesperrt... =)
16:16 < esden> also wenn man meine alpha betrachtet dann habe ich GROSSE alkoholkapazitaeten ;-)
16:16 < SMP> holyolli: jo, geht jetzt
16:16 < holyolli> <AOL> /me too! </aol> ;-)
16:16 < huebi> holyolli: lol
16:17 < huebi> AOL on alpha and rocklinux. Any volunteers?
16:17 < holyolli> hehe
16:18 < huebi> <AOL> Sie haben Post! </AOL> <- muss ich einfach auf linux haben.
16:18 < holyolli> ./dcc send huebi post.wav
16:19 < anders> einfach? meine deutsch nicht gut sint (lots of errors I know.. :)
16:20 < SMP> -rw-r--r--    1 stefanp  users       18164 Apr  9  1998 post.wav
16:20 < holyolli> anders: einfach == easy
16:20 < huebi> :q
16:20 < tsa> this is not vi ;-)
16:20 < holyolli> this is real life..
16:20 < SMP> /irgnore -language german
16:20 < SMP> ;>
16:22 < huebi> anders: <AOL> You've got mail! </AOL> <- I must have it. In german. On linux ;)))
16:23 < anders> huebi: danke.. :)
16:23 < huebi> SMP: can you copy post.wav into my ~
16:23 < huebi> anders: pleasure
16:24 < holyolli> "lolita.WRonline.de" - aaaaaaaahja ;-)
16:25 < SMP> huebi: ~stefanp/post.wav
16:25 < huebi> anders: AOL has a TV-ad campayn in germany. I heared "Sie haben Post!" in that ad.
16:25 < huebi> SMP: got it. Thank you
16:26 * huebi needs to get his sound card working ;)
16:26 < SMP>  . o ( /me hops it's the right one )
16:28 < huebi> post.wav <- noiseless, empty test.wav for absolut silence. "WTF is my sound card not working...."
16:28 < huebi> hehe
16:31 < netcrow> ./join #aol 
16:31 -!- kvak|uninvited [uninvited@p50802B56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ROCKLINUX
16:32 < esden> hi uni !
16:32 < anders> Hmm.. I see enough crappy AOL ads on UK TV..
16:32 < netcrow> hi Uni
16:32 < kvak|uninvited> Hello ESDEN
16:32 < kvak|uninvited> Hello NETCROW
16:32 < kvak|uninvited> (damn CAPSLOCK *G*)
16:32 < esden> lool uni sicher ...
16:32 < esden> I mean sure .. ;-)
16:32 < blindcoder> hi uni
16:33 < anders> poink!
16:33 < kvak|uninvited> Hi blindcoder...
16:33 * kvak|uninvited searches his brain for blindcoders identity
16:33 < kvak|uninvited> MATCH
16:33 < blindcoder> hehe
16:33 < esden> kvak|uninvited: tell us then who is blindcoder ?
16:33 < huebi> anders: I have no TV. So it's just fun for me
16:34 < thAlerim> huebi doesn't own a TV, but he has got good music *harhar*
16:34 < huebi> thAlerim: hehe
16:35 < huebi> I did a /join #aol - nobody in there
16:35 < huebi> lol
16:35 < esden> hmm i think I should leech a littlebit on huebis ftp ;-)
16:35 -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's")
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16:35 < esden> loool
16:35 < huebi> esden: in the upload directory
16:35 < blindcoder> damn... wrong window to use ^C
16:35 < esden> -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("User abort with 5 Ctrl-C's"
16:35 < esden> muahaha
16:35 < esden> lool
16:36 < esden> huebi: damn
16:36 < thAlerim> huebi: i have further songs.. when the downloading of Creed will be finished, i upload more stuff :)
16:36 < thAlerim> *i am going to
16:36 < huebi> thAlerim: Yes, do so
16:36 < kvak|uninvited> definition blindcoder>  Subject is a living individual - pumping code through his veins, manga and instant noodle abuse
16:37 < blindcoder> noodles? where?
16:37 < huebi> lol
16:37 < kvak|uninvited> so this is another W4R3z # ?
16:37 < esden> kvak|uninvited: your dofinition aproved ;-)
16:37 < kvak|uninvited> har har har
16:38 < esden> kvak|uninvited: we need a rithm when we code ;-)
16:38 < blindcoder> esden> I managed to restore the modified bccs files
16:38 < esden> so we have to exchange music ...
16:38 < blindcoder> I finally found them on the 100 MEgabyte ZIP-Disk-Dump
16:38 < esden> blindcoder: how ?
16:38 < kvak|uninvited> esden> i see...illogical
16:38 -!- praenti_ZzZz is now known as praenti
16:38 < blindcoder> vim zipdump
16:38 < praenti> hi
16:38 < blindcoder> hi praenti 
16:38 < kvak|uninvited> Hello praenti
16:38 < esden> hi brand
16:38 < blindcoder> and then searched for the modifications
16:38 * praenti reading scrollback
16:39 < netcrow> hi praenti the weizenbock
16:39 < esden> pluetzlich erwachen alle zum loben ... wahrnsinn
16:39 < huebi> praenti: muh
16:39 < thAlerim> kvak|uninvited: you won't get anything done without good music (or at least it won't be so good)
16:39 < esden> ich meine leben ... >_<
16:39 < netcrow> hm, show him the cow ;-)
16:39 * blindcoder suggests Serial Experiments Lain - Duvet
16:40 < esden> hmm 
16:40 * -> esden mounting his second mp3 archive ;-)
16:40 * kvak|uninvited listens to: _RECHENZENTRUM_:_IBM
16:40 * thAlerim is listening to KoRn - inja
16:40 < esden> == 00:29:55 =[5]=> Building base package linux [2.4.18-rc4 1.5.13_2002-04-04_21h08]. !!!
16:40 < esden> YUPEEEE
16:40 < esden> jump jump
16:41 < holyolli> esden: intel or alpha?
16:41 < esden> alpha
16:41 < holyolli> cool
16:41 * blindcoder thinks about hanging ROCKLinux CDs on his walls... there are quite a few unusable around now ;)
16:42 < esden> <errorlist>
16:42 < esden> ist/var/adm/logs/3-alsa.err
16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-apmd.err
16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-galeon.err
16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-gdm.err
16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-iproute2.err
16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-libsafe.err
16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-lprng.err
16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-modules.err
16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-qt.err
16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-rsync.err
16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-tetex.err
16:42 < esden> dist/var/adm/logs/3-time.err
16:42 < esden> </errorlist>
16:42 < kvak|uninvited> output > irc ?
16:42 < holyolli> das mit den modules kannst du mit dem einen patch rausbekommen, den ich mal geschickt hatte
16:42 < holyolli> erm
16:43 < esden> kvak|uninvited: not yet I am currently writing an irssi plugin for it ;-)
16:43 < holyolli> the problem with "modules" lies in building some stuff for a special scsi-controller (afaik)
16:43 < holyolli> (sorry 4 german)
16:43 < blindcoder> hmm... I think I'll go shopping in a few minutes... no instant noodles around anymore >_<
16:43 < esden> holyolli: ok I will check it
16:44 < esden> blindcoder: tztztz
16:44 * praenti : scrollback too long --> reading aborted
16:44 < esden> blindcoder: noodles yunkey
16:44 < holyolli> cu l8ter
16:44 < blindcoder> haaaai!
16:44 < huebi> cu holyolli 
16:44 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!")
16:45 < esden> praenti: hehe like the virus scanner for mail ... that have to check 42.zip ;-)
16:45 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: Mike1
16:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mike1
16:45 * thAlerim is listening to Nirvana - Lithium
16:45 < thAlerim> Nirvana rocks.
16:46 < blindcoder> kuso! no CD-RW around...
16:46 < esden> thAlerim: yups
16:47 < esden> ahh docbook stuff ... I know what I wanted to copy on my laptop
16:47 * blindcoder now watching .hack//sign 02
16:47 < thAlerim> WTF?
16:47 < esden> blindcoder: I want tooo!!!
16:47 < esden> thAlerim: anime
16:48 < esden> thAlerim: or what you mean ?
16:48 < blindcoder> esden> come around ;)
16:48 < thAlerim> .hack//sign 02 <-
16:48 < blindcoder> thAlerim> it's an anime
16:48 < esden> blindcoder: haha ... I can't I have toomuch to do >_<
16:48 < kvak|uninvited> thalerim> Rage Against The Machine rocks !
16:48 < blindcoder> esden> then you have to watch it another time
16:48 < kvak|uninvited> Down ride rodeo
16:49 < thAlerim> kvak|uninvited: lol, is that a name of a song or of a band?
16:49 < thAlerim> blindcoder: where?
16:49 < praenti>  _   _
16:49 < praenti> | | | | _____      __   ___ __ _ _ __    _   _  ___  _   _
16:49 < praenti> | |_| |/ _ \ \ /\ / /  / __/ _` | '_ \  | | | |/ _ \| | | |
16:49 < praenti> |  _  | (_) \ V  V /  | (_| (_| | | | | | |_| | (_) | |_| |
16:49 < praenti> |_| |_|\___/ \_/\_/    \___\__,_|_| |_|  \__, |\___/ \__,_|
16:49 < praenti>                                          |___/
16:49 < praenti>                  _          _   _           _                       ___
16:49 < praenti>  _ __ ___   __ _| | _____  | |_| |__   __ _| |_    ___ _____      _|__ \
16:49 < praenti> | '_ ` _ \ / _` | |/ / _ \ | __| '_ \ / _` | __|  / __/ _ \ \ /\ / / / /
16:49 < praenti> | | | | | | (_| |   <  __/ | |_| | | | (_| | |_  | (_| (_) \ V  V / |_|
16:49 < praenti> |_| |_| |_|\__,_|_|\_\___|  \__|_| |_|\__,_|\__|  \___\___/ \_/\_/  (_)
16:49 < praenti> ;-)
16:49 < thAlerim> ...
16:49 < SMP> argl
16:50 < blindcoder> thAlerim> what do you mean? where? on my hard disk I'd say ;)
16:50 < kvak|uninvited> thalermi>talking about RATM ? or DOWN RIDE RODEO ?
16:50 < huebi>  __________________ 
16:50 < huebi> ( praneti needs it )
16:50 < huebi>  ------------------ 
16:50 < huebi>         o   ^__^
16:50 < huebi>          o  (oo)\_______
16:50 < huebi>             (__)\       )\/\
16:50 < huebi>                 ||----w |
16:50 < huebi>                 ||     ||
16:50 < thAlerim> ...
16:50 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.WRonline.de] has left #rocklinux ()
16:50 < thAlerim> kvak|uninvited: what are both?
16:51 * thAlerim needs a /clear
16:51 * thAlerim has cleared successfully
16:51 < praenti> huebi: ich glaub das teil nervt ein paar leuet ...
16:52 < kvak|uninvited> thalerim> you re jokin on me ? Say, you don t know Rage Against The Machine ?
16:52 < thAlerim> nope
16:52 < kvak|uninvited> thalerim>T02rsh6orBygyTItb7l7jaDAU69@ZDo9MJVLR4Zvb@WThXy9j00000PlZ00FkTMJKvCNi?zq
16:52 < kvak|uninvited> oops. Sorry
16:53 < thAlerim> !!!!!!1
16:53 < kvak|uninvited> RATM is like crossoversound - try to get a life ;-)
16:53 < thAlerim> his encrypted password
16:53 < thAlerim> of root
16:53 < thAlerim> !!!!
16:53 < kvak|uninvited> Nay.
16:53 < blindcoder> zero just crashed my door ;)
16:53 * huebi startin jack...
16:54 < thAlerim> kvak|uninvited: what type of music is it?
16:54 < kvak|uninvited> thalerim> get a leech...
16:54 < kvak|uninvited> ...search for "RATM"
16:54 < thAlerim> can you send it, please?
16:55 < kvak|uninvited> send yar what ?
16:55 < thAlerim> a song of this group
16:55 < thAlerim> the best one
16:55 < kvak|uninvited> to use the words of armijn: google!
16:55 < kvak|uninvited> google -> ratm
16:55 < tsa> hehe
16:55 < thAlerim> <- lazy
16:55 < thAlerim> <- very much lazy
16:56 < tsa> clifford: rsync sollte bald fertig sein......schmeisst du noch nen link auf die master-site?
17:00 < anders> my head is hurting....
17:02 < kvak|uninvited> hammer...
17:03 < blindcoder> 960 MB installation... on a 2 Gig disc :(
17:04 * anders growls about the current build breaking things...
17:04 < anders> good thing I go home in 55 minutes...
17:04 < clifford> tsa: done. ich brauch e-mail und realname fuer meinen responsable-person eintrag.
17:05 < tsa> clifford: rock@marcant.net, Sebastian Jaenicke
17:05 < clifford> thx.
17:05 < tsa> 30 2 * * * /var/www/update-rock.sh >/dev/null
17:06 < Mike1> re
17:06 < clifford> hab' ich schon (von vorher) - das ist CET ?
17:06 < tsa> jupp.
17:09 < clifford> fake: ich komm' nicht mehr auf die indy! (das gcc problem ist fast geloest ..)
17:11 < esden> I hate 10Mbit net!
17:11 < esden> It is so terribly slow!
17:13 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy|KFC
17:13 -!- jonath[an] [~jvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux
17:13 < jonath[an]> hi guys
17:14 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.WRonline.de] has joined #rocklinux
17:15 < huebi> SMP: The cow is away. And stays away. 
17:15 < jonath[an]> :(
17:15 * praenti posts no figlet anymore
17:15 < huebi> praenti:  kool
17:16 < huebi> we can have that fun at #flood
17:16 < praenti> ok. but we are not allowed to discuss technical things. ok?
17:16 < praenti> because otherwise esden gets a problem
17:17 < praenti> and the rest too
17:17 < huebi> in #flood? - yes
17:18 < thAlerim> may i joint either?
17:18 < thAlerim> -t ;)
17:18 < huebi> or better #aol hehe
17:19 < armijn> oh my god...what did I do?
17:19 < armijn> I drank Heineken
17:19 < jonath[an]> thst's bad armijn
17:20 < kvak|uninvited> yuck !
17:20 < armijn> oh boy...Heineken is so evil
17:20 < esden> armijn: tztztz
17:20 < armijn> but it was for free!
17:20 < jonath[an]> William Henry Gates worth almost $20 billion dolars
17:20 < esden> bad boy armijn 
17:20 < kvak|uninvited> it was for free ?
17:20 < kvak|uninvited> okay then.
17:20 < thAlerim> lol, huebi
17:21 < praenti> armijn: one thing i always do, i dont drink heineken
17:21 < praenti> btw. why did you do that?
17:21 < jonath[an]> praenti: i do
17:21 * -> esden wants beer ... 
17:21 < jonath[an]> praenti: i dont, sorry
17:21 < esden> who wants to come and drink some beer with me ?
17:22 < praenti> esden: come over to me. have a gutmann
17:22 < thAlerim> huebi: :(
17:22 < esden> today afternoon
17:22 < thAlerim> i want to see the one and only COW
17:22 < praenti> no today evening
17:22 < esden> praenti: ahh good idea
17:22 < armijn> praenti: it was for freee!
17:22 < esden> praenti: ...
17:22 < praenti> Freibier. ich will auch eins ;-)
17:22 < armijn> cheap alcohol...
17:22 < huebi> armijn: only 2 hours of live left now.
17:23 < huebi> armijn: get a cow at #flood
17:23 < kvak|uninvited> Okay listen:
17:23 < kvak|uninvited> Everyone get a beer at yar fridge
17:23 < kvak|uninvited> Open. Drink. Enjoy.
17:23 < kvak|uninvited> Tell u.
17:23 * -> esden no beer@fridge.northpole
17:23 < praenti> huebi: you're posting too much to #flood. it is terrible slow
17:24 < armijn> hmm...I know what I'd have in my fridge...
17:24 < huebi> praenti: perhaps #aol is faster?
17:24 < huebi> or is it the server?
17:25 < thAlerim> server
17:25 < praenti> i dont think so. #rocklinux is fast. cant be the server ;-)
17:26 < thAlerim> huebi: test it in #aol
17:26 < praenti> unjoining #flood. otherwise unusefull traffic on apollo
17:26 -!- anders [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit ("have a nice weekend folks...")
17:27 < thAlerim> seems not to be faster
17:27 < thAlerim> huebi should change the server maybe
17:27 < armijn> why does life suck so much?
17:27 < thAlerim> armijn:!!
17:27 < thAlerim> wow
17:27 < armijn> why is always Heineken for free and not a good beer, like Gulpener?
17:27 < thAlerim> you aren't drunk
17:27 < armijn> thalerim: ehr, now I am, actually...
17:27 < praenti> armijn: i dont know. i only get that beer for free that i dont linke...
17:28 < praenti> s/linke/like
17:28 < armijn> right now my driver
17:28 < armijn> 's licence would be taken
17:28 < armijn> not that I have one...but I don't drive a car either.
17:28 < huebi> hmmm
17:29 < jonath[an]> Mike1: still there?
17:29 < esden> clifford: are you here ?
17:29 < Mike1> jonath[an] yes wait i'm in a meeting
17:29 < thAlerim> brb
17:29 < armijn> urgh...export Heineken is actually better than the crap they sell here...
17:29 < armijn> can you imagine?
17:30 < jonath[an]> Heineken arrives to Costa Rica too
17:30 < jonath[an]> :(
17:30 < clifford> esden: yes?
17:30 < kvak|uninvited> Heineken sucks. Estrella Damm is worse, but Heineken tops it.
17:31 < armijn> estrella damm? where does that come from?
17:31 < kvak|uninvited> Q: can someone tell me the difference between CGA und EGA graphics ?
17:31 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> official words: brewery from spain inofficial: simply water
17:32 < armijn> kvak: ah...I only know San Miguel
17:32 < praenti> kvak|uninvited: ega i think has 8 colors. cga only 4 (black white magenta and cyanblue)
17:32 < armijn> kvak: and I've heard of Mahou...
17:32 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> Miguel is great, had some (buckets) of it while staying in Fuerteventura.
17:33 < kvak|uninvited> But Mahou...
17:33 < kvak|uninvited> ...sounds like some stuff from Hawaii - ALOHA.
17:33 < kvak|uninvited> praenti> thx
17:33 < clifford> esden: what did you want?
17:33 < armijn> kvak: not, it's from Madrid
17:33 < esden> ahh
17:33 < esden> sorry
17:34 < esden> clifford: don't you think that we should install the docbookof tho kornel ?
17:34 < esden> argh
17:34 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> so what does it taste like ? is it another member of these near-water-beers ?
17:34 < esden> kernel
17:34 < kvak|uninvited> polska ?
17:34 < kvak|uninvited> *G*
17:34 < armijn> kvak: I don't know...probably, it's spanish
17:34 < clifford> esden: what's that?
17:35 < armijn> clifford; is it a problem if info files don't get installed?
17:35 < esden> this is the documentation of the kernel ... generated of the kernel code
17:36 < esden> you can generate it with make psdoc 
17:36 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> you re from NL, right ?
17:36 < armijn> kvak: yeah
17:36 < clifford> armijn: only you need help to the command described in the infor files .. :-)
17:36 < esden> or simmilar for html version aso
17:36 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> tell us some good nl beer
17:36 < SMP> clifford: do you think that the 1.7 system (apart from the actual packages) has stabilized sufficiently to develop a small, heavily customized production-quality Distro off of it?
17:36 < armijn> clifford: well, it's just for egcs64, which behaves much like gcc...
17:36 < clifford> esden: cool! is it complete?
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17:37 < armijn> kvak: depends on what kind of beer you want
17:37 < esden> but we do not have the docbook templates in rock at default ...
17:37 < kvak|uninvited> 4,9 turnarounds+
17:37 < clifford> SMP: we have no install system at the moment.
17:37 < esden> so I could not test it in the train ... 
17:37 < esden> I do not have net in the train
17:37 < armijn> kvak: there are a few hundred beers here, don't know them all..
17:38 < huebi> I'm off to a meeting of the sage@guug now. see you later
17:38 < esden> cu huebi 
17:38 < esden> huebi: have fun
17:38 < jonath[an]> bye huebi
17:38 < armijn> sage...
17:39 < SMP> clifford: well, I don't need that. but comes to my mind is of course the move way from tar.bz2 packages
17:39 < armijn> I wonder if I should become a member...
17:39 < armijn> I'm not a sysadmin...
17:39 < Mike1> jonath[an] so you are comming over here?
17:39 < jonath[an]> Mike1: sure
17:39 < huebi> thank you, by. We have to discuss the install system on 1.7. I have many good ideas
17:39 < huebi> by
17:39 < armijn> mike1: sorry, no patches today, need to do more tests, fix more problems
17:39 * Mike1 getting BIER!
17:39 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> havent tried much beer while being in nl - you country offers other
17:39 < armijn> bye huebi!
17:39 < armijn> kvak: from .de?
17:39 < jonath[an]> Mike1: have you change sth in ssh config on nemesis?
17:39 < Mike1> armijn itz ok i have been playing around with 1.7
17:40 < armijn> mike1: you still need patches
17:40 < Mike1> armijn stage 0 clear no problems , stage 1 stopped at dietlibc
17:40 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> yea
17:40 < praenti> esden: have you read my question about the kernel-book?
17:40 < esden> armijn: kvak|uninvited is also from Ingolstadt ;-)
17:40 < Mike1> jonath[an] no why?
17:40 < esden> praenti: ???
17:40 < armijn> esden: ingolstadt invasion...
17:40 < kvak|uninvited> *drums* 
17:40 < armijn> kvak: depends...strong, light? sweet, bitter? dark, light?
17:40 < armijn> kvak: and in which season :)
17:41 < jonath[an]> @    WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!     @
17:41 < jonath[an]> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
17:41 < jonath[an]> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
17:41 < jonath[an]> Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
17:41 < jonath[an]> It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed.
17:41 < jonath[an]> The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is
17:41 < praenti> esden: the book you meant is Understnading the Kernel?
17:41 < jonath[an]> 2c:e0:33:a4:62:4e:e9:db:fd:8e:3a:a9:00:9d:0b:62.
17:41 < jonath[an]> Please contact your system administrator.
17:41 < jonath[an]> Add correct host key in /home/est/2001/jonvargas/.ssh/known_hosts2 to get rid of this message.
17:41 < esden> praenti: argh ... ich ahne schlimmes!!!!!!!
17:41 < jonath[an]> Offending key in /home/est/2001/jonvargas/.ssh/known_hosts2:1
17:41 < jonath[an]> RSA host key for odin.informatica.co.cr has changed and you have requested strict checking.
17:41 < kvak|uninvited> armijn>  i seee...
17:41 < praenti> esden: ???
17:41 < Mike1> jonath[an] rm .ssh/*
17:41 < jonath[an]> Mike1: i did it
17:41 < clifford> SMP: what exactly do you want to do?
17:41 < armijn> kvak: it's that tough...and I also need to do more research first :)))
17:41 < jonath[an]> Mike1: several times
17:41 < Mike1> jonath[an] let me check 
17:42 < praenti> esden: can you explain?
17:42 < esden> mom
17:42 < jonath[an]> Mike1: i erase it, exit and login and again the same warning
17:42 < Mike1> jonath[an] no everything seems ok 
17:43 < jonath[an]> Mike1: well, dunno, maybe my pc
17:43 < armijn> maybe they upgraded SSH
17:43 < Mike1> jonath[an] rm $HOME/.ssh/know_hosts
17:43 < SMP> clifford: I told you about the blade server project on 18C3...
17:43 < jonath[an]> umm, maybe
17:43 < jonath[an]> Mike1: sure, i did it several times
17:43 < Mike1> armijn i havent upgrade ssh
17:44 < armijn> mike1: then it's suspicious
17:44 < Mike1> jonath[an] go to hack's gateway try from there
17:44 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> i see...so be careful - your journey will have many bottles  bringing danger up yar way
17:44 < esden> clifford: dass heisst docBook
17:44 < jonath[an]> Mike1: no prob with gate
17:44 < armijn> jonath[an]: back up the old known_hosts file
17:44 < SMP> clifford: that would best fit as a custom target in 1.7 and not heavy hacking of semi-obsolete code (1.5)
17:44 < esden> ist zu finden in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/DocBook/
17:44 < jonath[an]> armijn: ive changed PC, now it works
17:44 < armijn> kvak: bottles? nah, tap
17:45 < jonath[an]> Mike1: now it works in other PC
17:45 < jonath[an]> :)
17:45 < esden> praenti: hat sich erlaedigt ... ich habe gedacht dass ich mich mit dem docbook vertan habe ;-)
17:46 < kvak|uninvited> armijn> I see.
17:46 < Mike1> jonath[an] tell your UNI sysadmins they suck
17:46 < clifford> SMP: I see. when should that be ready?
17:46 < jonath[an]> Mike1: dont you want to have the pleasure to say them by urself?
17:47 < armijn> hmm...this should be an interesting bus and train ride...
17:47 < Mike1> jonath[an] hehe yes :D
17:47 < armijn> anywayz, I'm off
17:47 < armijn> cu
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17:47 < jonath[an]> Mike1: :)
17:47 < praenti> esden: how can i read that files?
17:48 < SMP> clifford: 2-3 months I'd say - more like 3
17:48 < esden> praenti: read /usr/src/linux/README first ;-)
17:48 < Mike1> jonath[an] i have some books here i will borrow 1 or 3 if you like 
17:48 < jonath[an]> Mike1: :) , of course
17:49 < Mike1> jonath[an] BTW what time are you getting over here?
17:49 < jonath[an]> Mike1: 17:00, as we agree
17:49 < jonath[an]> Mike1: or am i bad?
17:50 < Mike1> you can come a bit earlier if u want
17:50 < kvak|uninvited> *G*
17:50 < jonath[an]> Mike1: yes, i can
17:50 < praenti> esden: when you know where you can read it its easy...
17:50 < praenti> shitt. cant compile it
17:50 < praenti> *** You need to install DocBook stylesheets ***
17:51 < jonath[an]> Mike1: ok, how late can i arrive there?
17:51 < Mike1> 4
17:52 < jonath[an]> ok
17:52 < jonath[an]> ill arrive that time
17:52 < Mike1> remember how to fet here
17:52 < Mike1> f/g*
17:53 < jonath[an]> sure, behind GBM
17:53 < jonath[an]> :)
17:53 < Mike1> gut
17:53 < jonath[an]> jo
17:53 < Mike1> mom
17:53 < jonath[an]> ok
17:54 < esden> sure that was my problem too
17:54 < esden> @ praenti 
17:54 < esden>  /link http://sources.redhat.com/docbook-tools/ ;-)
17:56 < praenti> sf has it as sources. but must know where i must copy the *.xsl
17:57 < praenti> README does say: Installation Unpack distribution somewhere
17:57 < esden> praenti  /link ?
17:57 < praenti> i dont believe that this will work
17:58 < clifford> SMP: If everything goes fine, we should have a 1.7.0 in 2-3 months. It won't be stable, but stable enought for using it as base for such a project.
17:59 < clifford> I have to go now ...
17:59 < netcrow> esden: was machst heut abend?
18:00 < SMP> bye clifford 
18:00 < esden> cu clifford 
18:00 < esden> netcrow: weiss ich noch net
18:01 < praenti> bye clifford
18:01 < jonath[an]> cya Cliff
18:01 < kvak|uninvited> not JIT, just more of it
18:02 < Mike1> bye clifford 
18:02 < netcrow> esden: bierchentrinken? ;)
18:02 < tsa> clifford: hm....what do you know about geert bevin - there are still a lot of his packages..does he still work with rock or gentoo only? 
18:03 < esden> good idea! where ? when? 
18:03 < netcrow> esden: 8 uhr? treff ma uns im bitz?
18:03 < praenti> tsa: take some packages. i dont want to maintain all
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18:03 < esden> oki 
18:03 < kvak|uninvited> oki
18:03 < esden> praenti: kommst auch ?
18:03 < tsa> praenti: i already did - took over nessus yesterday..
18:03 < esden> kvak|uninvited: auch ?
18:04 < esden> blindy|KFC: auch
18:04 < praenti> tsa: ok
18:04 < netcrow> uni, brandy, ihr auch?
18:04 < tsa> praenti: i've mailed geert several times, but never recieved an answer...
18:04 < praenti> netcrow: i dont think so. im still a little bit ill
18:04 < esden> and then we have a rocklinux bof ;-)
18:04 < netcrow> praenti: alcohol will make you "gesund"
18:04 < tsa> anyway, i'll talk to holyolli and convice him to take over some packages...
18:04 < esden> helthy @ netcrow 
18:05 < praenti> tsa: i meet him here in the chat. he told me that he does nothing for rock anymore
18:05 < praenti> xine and common-c++ are mine
18:05 < tsa> praenti: hm...ok, at least that's a final answer.
18:05 < praenti> at the moment i have a little bit lack of time
18:06 * tsa too, but i try to do as much as possible in my spare time...
18:06 < praenti> so i dont have time to patch some packages till 04.05.
18:06 < praenti> then i have more time ;-)
18:06 < praenti> netcrow: ok. i will come
18:06 < netcrow> praenti: yeaa..cool
18:07 < netcrow> okay, an you Uninvited?
18:10 < kvak|uninvited> Maybe training tonite...
18:10 < kvak|uninvited> ...Q3A...n stuff.
18:10 < netcrow> games are something for kids ;)
18:11 < kvak|uninvited> *G*
18:11 < kvak|uninvited> STFU
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18:12 < tsa> bbl.
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18:13 < rxr> is my connection down - or were this two hors without a post?
18:13 < netcrow> hm..
18:14 < rxr> (oops the window was not scrolled down :-()
18:14 < rxr> hi
18:14 < netcrow> no cow in this 2 hours ;)
18:14 < Mike1> rxr hi
18:14 < Mike1> rxr got your U5 already?
18:17 < esden> hmm ... 
18:18 < praenti> arghhh. jade doesnt compile...
18:19 < rxr> Mike1: No. Hi hope Ripclaw has carried it to the post service yesterday - so it might arrive tomorrow. At least in the next days it should arrive ... ;-)
18:19 < praenti> and i dont speak very much c++ yet
18:19 < rxr> Mike1: I currently rework the autobench and will run gcc vs. gcc3 on your U5 ...
18:20 < Mike1> rxr i need you to help me with something, do you have time?
18:21 * praenti want to throw his mouse on the wall *grml*
18:21 < praenti> but i need this device :-((
18:21 < praenti> damn developer
18:22 * praenti hoping for a newer version...
18:22 < netcrow> praenti: cut the cable
18:22 < praenti> esden: perhaps your link was bad for that
18:24 -!- jonath[an] is now known as tan[eating]
18:25 < rxr> Mike1: some - what is the problem?
18:26 * praenti try a new thing
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18:30 < praenti> ok this might be better.
18:30 < praenti> esden: some things in your link are obsolete
18:31 < praenti> this one is better
18:31 < praenti> http://www.gemini1consulting.com/tekhelp/#dbsgmltoolbox
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18:37 < netcrow> also, ingolstädter... 8 uhr treff ma uns beim bitz....okay
18:37 < praenti> ok
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19:13 < Mike1> re
19:15 * tan[eating] has gotten Solaris 8.0 for Intel archs
19:16 * Mike1 has the 3 cds
19:16 * tan[eating] too :)
19:16 * tan[eating] since now
19:17 < Mike1> congrats my friend
19:17 < tan[eating]> :)
19:18 < tan[eating]> well, ill try it in my k62
19:18 < tan[eating]> im eating ..
19:20 < Mike1> how long does it take u to eat?
19:21 < Mike1> :P
19:31 < tan[eating]> back
19:31 -!- tan[eating] is now known as jonath[an]
19:33 * jonath[an] burning
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19:38 < thalerim> re
19:38 < jonath[an]> hi thalerim
19:39 < thalerim> hello jonath[an]
19:48 < thalerim> jonath[an]: you want to make a C programm listen on a special port?
19:50 < jonath[an]> yes
19:50 < thalerim> just start with (x)inetd
19:50 < thalerim> +it
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19:58 < netcrow> okay..
19:58 < netcrow> i hope praenti_away & esden are on the way ;-)
19:58 * netcrow takes a cigarette
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20:08 < esden> re hi all
20:08 < Mike1> re esden 
20:08 < jonath[an]> hi esden
20:08 < jonath[an]> bye all
20:08 < Mike1> cu jonath[an] 
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20:22 < snyke> hi @all!!!
20:22 < Mike1> hi snyke 
20:29 < netcrow> hi
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20:46 < esden> cu ...
20:57 < term_aweh> re
21:13 < Mike1> rxr build failed in util-linux have a look
21:23 * Mike1 having lunch
21:38 < rxr> is some sparc freak online?
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21:46 < Mike1> rxr you are
21:47 < Mike1> :)
21:48 < rxr> Hi back - nope I just started to look on your U5 - none here - and the gcc put some unsupported opcode - which I (as x86 asembly knower never saw, yet ...) - so currently I'm googling for UtraSparc specs ...
21:49 < Mike1> join #splack or #sparc
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21:51 < Mike1> re tsa 
21:52 < tsa> hi Mike1
21:52 < tsa> `cowsay -f small Hi.`
21:53 < tsa> eval for yourself, if applicable.
21:53 < tsa> (esden will probably kill me otherwise ;)
21:54 < rxr> tsa: /me too ...
21:54 < tsa> rxr: ok..
21:56 < rxr> UltraSPARC User's Manual Complete UltraSPARC Instruction Set (Continued) MOVcc    Move integer register if condition is satisfied    A.34
21:58 < rxr> 16.2.6.2 Mike you wanna get into it, too ;-)?
21:58 < rxr> This is a bug of slacks gcc - this instruction really seems to be available for Sparc v.8 - not utraspartc ...
21:59 < rxr> ah
21:59 < rxr> ups - sorry missmatch the other way round it is utra-sparc not version 8 sparc
21:59 < rxr> so the (g)as complains about it, because it is configured for sparclite ..
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22:17 < rxr> Mike1: the gcc 3.0.4 causes the same output to be generated ... :-( I have to get deeper into this tomorrow ...
22:18 < Mike1> rxr yeah i wanna see that
22:18 < Mike1> rxr i already sent a report of the problem to rock-ports
22:18 < Mike1> where did you get that manual i wanna have a look at it
22:18 < rxr> http://www.sun.com/microelectronics/manuals/index.html
22:23 < rxr> We might need to take a look into the binutils and gcc source to see which one fails ...
22:23 < Mike1> hehe gut danke
22:23 < Mike1> yeah we might
22:32 < tsa> Mike1: regarding you mail to the list - are you trying to build sparc or sparc64 ?
22:33 < Mike1> tsa sparc64 :)
22:33 < Mike1> sparc tareget in 1.7 is set for sparc64
22:33 < Mike1> tareget/target
22:34 < tsa> Mike1: hm....ok. contact the mailing list at dietlibc@fefe.de - they might help resolving this issue.
22:35 < tsa> would be cool to get dietlibc running on sparc64.
22:35 < Mike1> tsa yeah but i don't think it is supported for sparc yet :(
22:36 < tsa> the dietlibc homepage states:
22:36 < tsa> The diet libc is a libc that is optimized for small size. It can be used to create small statically linked binaries for Linux on alpha, arm, hppa, mips, s390, sparc, sparc64, ppc and i386.
22:36 < tsa> as it includes sparc64, it could be interesting to the developers.
22:36 < Mike1> hehe yeah i will sent it to them thanks tsa 
22:37 < tsa> no problem.
22:37 < Mike1> tsa you got a sparc?
22:37 < tsa> the homepage has some prebuilt binaries for different arch's, but not for sparc64 - interesting
22:37 < tsa> Mike1: ultra10, 300mhz, 256mb ram.
22:38 < Mike1> tsa very nice so you tried building 1.7?
22:39 < tsa> Mike1: no, i didn't. it's currently running sunOS 5.8 and still has the damn slow IDE disk. I'll have to install a scsi controller and reinstall first.
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22:39 < holyolli> re
22:39 < tsa> tag holyolli
22:39 < holyolli> moin tsa
22:40 < rxr> tsa: Mike1: sparc64 with 64 bit userspce seems to be non-stable currently - and I think ROCK build 32bit sparc binaries ...
22:40 < tsa> holyolli: would you be interesting in taking over some packages on sf cvs? geert bevin left rock, but there are still a lot of packages from him..
22:41 < Mike1> tsa ok
22:41 < holyolli> tsa: which packages are you speaking about?
22:41 < Mike1> rxr yeah it builds 32
22:41 < holyolli> (generally yes, but i don't buy the katze in the sack ;)
22:41 < tsa> holyolli: grep -ri Bevin package/sourceforge/*
22:42 < tsa> rxr: we don't need to use 64bit userspace - but it would be nice if we could... ;-)
22:42 < holyolli> <-- is grepping ;)
22:42 < holyolli> wharks!
22:43 < rxr> tsa: sure. I'll definitely get into all the low-level stuff. But first we should focus on the semi-stable 32bit binaries and the we can extend to the 64 bit version.
22:43 < rxr> the binutils and gcc might also need fixing to get 64bit userspace working
22:43 < tsa> rxr: by the way....i will no longer update any 1.5 packages on sf cvs. it's not worth the time, IMHO. 
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22:43 < thalerim> re
22:43 < rxr> tsa: I never did - I have only time for 1.7 - and it is worthless to discuss anything with Pjotr ...
22:44 < tsa> it's better to make patches against huebi's tree..
22:44 < tsa> rxr: ack.
22:44 < holyolli> tsa: which packages are still unmaintained from the list of bevin?
22:44 < tsa> i guess we all have seen that.
22:44 < tsa> holyolli: all of them.
22:44 < holyolli> d'oh
22:44 < tsa> i've taken over nessus yesterday.
22:44 < Mike1> tsa i could take some
22:44 < tsa> this sounds fine.
22:44 < tsa> rxr: you are project admin at sf, aren't you?
22:44 < rxr> tsa: also some sparc people say that 64 bit userspace might be slower for most app, due to the much bigger binaries resuling of the 64 bit code ...
22:45 < rxr> yes - i'm one
22:45 < holyolli> tsa: i think i can also take some....
22:45 < tsa> holyolli, Mike1: sign up at sourceforge and tell rxr your username so he can add you..
22:45 < holyolli> tsa: holyolli
22:45 < holyolli> ;)
22:46 < tsa> i am not rxr ;)
22:46 < holyolli> tsa: :-P
22:46 < tsa> rxr: looks like we've got two new developers on cvs...
22:46 < holyolli> <-- tired
22:46 * tsa happy.
22:46 < Mike1> rxr herk i think i am already there
22:46 * Mike1 taking xchat *g
22:47 < rxr> Mike1: what is your sf ID ?
22:47 < holyolli> .oO(damn...2l8 ;)
22:47 < Mike1> rxr herk
22:47 < tsa> hehehe
22:48 * holyolli takes xcdroast
22:48 * Mike1 taking also xpp
22:49 * holyolli takes a beer.. ;)
22:49 < Mike1> BIER!!!
22:49 < rxr> isn't xcdroast not already in extra1 ?
22:49 < Mike1> :)
22:49 * tsa is happy to know more packages will get updated soon..
22:49 < Mike1> rxr yeah its in extra1
22:49 < holyolli> rxr: /me doesn't have the actual snap here...
22:49 < rxr> so I'll might erase it in cvs ...
22:50 < Mike1> tsa btw did see my patch to curl?
22:50 < holyolli> tsa: brennste mir eine? ;)
22:50 < hackbard> bye
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22:51 < thalerim> http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2002036566419.gif <- lol :)
22:51 < tsa> Mike1: yes..
22:52 < rxr> Mike1: weren't you allreay registed on ROCK sf cvs?
22:53 < Mike1> rxr yeah said that i think pj had already added me
22:53 < rxr> ahh ok
22:53 < Mike1> rxr cvs commands to get the tree please
22:53 < holyolli> rxr: then i'll take cdrdao..
22:53 < rxr> holyolli: you are added too
22:54 < rxr> holyolli: I think this is also in extra1 ... ;-)
22:54 < tsa> cvs howto:
22:54 < tsa> export CVS_RSH="ssh"
22:54 < tsa> export CVSROOT=:ext:YOURNAMEHERE@cvs.rock-package.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rock-package
22:54 < rxr> https://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=24827
22:54 < tsa> ssh YOURNAMEHERE@cvs.rock-package.sourceforge.net
22:54 < tsa> cvs co package
22:54 < tsa> -- work --
22:54 < tsa> -- edit changelog --
22:55 < tsa> cvs up -d
22:55 < tsa> cvs ci
22:55 < tsa> that's it.
22:57 < Mike1> tsa danke
22:57 < holyolli> rxr: is gqview o.k.?
22:58 < rxr> yes ;-) the rest is ok - too! You are free to send any update fixes to Cliff or me ...
22:58 < holyolli> ack.
22:59 < tsa> Mike1: no problem.
22:59 < rxr> ok cdrdao is not yet in extra1 - should I just add it ? (I like the normal files tree _maintained_ by Cliff much more then the sf cvs ...)
23:00 < thalerim> :;,(){ ,|,&};,;:;
23:00 < rxr> thalerim: ?
23:01 < thalerim> :(){ :|:&};:
23:01 < thalerim> :)
23:01 < holyolli> rxr: yes
23:01 < Mike1> rxr he is just trying to hight his ircstatus :)
23:01 < Mike1> heh thalerim 
23:01 < thalerim> rxr: simple fork bom implanted in bash
23:02 < thalerim> *bomb
23:02 < tsa> hehe
23:03 < tsa> a(){ a|a&};a <-- this way it's easier to understand..
23:04 < thalerim> :P
23:08 < rxr> very effective - just killed my X
23:08 < holyolli> *g*
23:09 < thalerim> using in cygwin it will crash the whole system
23:09 < rxr> hehe
23:09 < rxr> The crsh of X might be a bug in it - maybe some kind of time out during the kernel swapped 512 MB back out of the swap ...
23:10 < thalerim> take a look at your memory workload
23:11 < rxr> not today
23:12 < rxr> I'll take a look if Harald Scmidt Show is a good watch this night - and at least ater it I'll visit my two metres ...
23:12 < tsa> have fun. rxr
23:12 < rxr> tsa: didn't you wanted to fix the sf categories?
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23:12 < tsa> rxr: didn't have time so far.
23:12 < snyke> ah
23:12 < snyke> shit ;(
23:13 < rxr> taking a look at the new .cache files I get the impression that nearly no package build in Cliffs reference build ...
23:14 < rxr> who foudn xcdroast in sourceforge - it isn't in the 1.7 tree ...
23:14 < rxr> *) 2002-03-01 (1.5.12 - 1.7.0)
23:14 < rxr>  - Rene Rebe: removed cups, lame, libdvdread, ogle, vlc, xcdroast, xine
23:14 < tsa> here we go....
23:15 < tsa> who has taken acroread?
23:15 < holyolli> .oO("Seiltänzerleserabbrüche")
23:16 < tsa> holyolli: du hast cdrdao?
23:17 < tsa> cdrdao: Unknown package category: console/filesystems
23:17 < tsa> cdrdao: Unknown package category: gnome/filesystems
23:17 < esden> re hi all
23:17 < tsa> hi esden
23:17 < holyolli> tsa: das ist doch laut rxr nun bei cliffords sammlung ;)
23:17 < holyolli> hi esden
23:17 < tsa> hm...ok
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23:17 < esden> ahh beer is a good thing
23:17 < esden> ;-)
23:18 < tsa> holyolli: ok, was hast du?
23:18 < netcrow> hm....gutmann powered :)
23:18 < holyolli> gqview
23:18 < holyolli> (tsa)
23:18 < tsa> gqmpeg: Unknown package category: multimedia/mp3
23:18 < tsa> gqmpeg: Unknown package status: alpha
23:18 < tsa> gqview: Unknown package category: multimedia/graphic
23:18 < tsa> gqview: Unknown package status: stable
23:18 < tsa> gqview: No [I|TITLE] tag found.
23:18 < tsa> gqview: No [A|AUTHOR] tag found.
23:18 < tsa> gqview: No [L|LICENSE] tag found.
23:19 < tsa> bei der gelegenheit bitte auch gleich die [M]-Tags anpassen..
23:20 < holyolli> jo
23:21 < tsa> categories sind in Documentation/Developers/PKG-CATEGORIES
23:22 < esden> argh ... alsa is not building on alpha ...
23:22 < esden> >_<
23:23 < holyolli> esden: hastu komische alpha....
23:23 < holyolli> erm
23:23 < holyolli> esden: you have a strange alpha... ;)
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23:26 < holyolli> esden: how does that come that both alphas don't compile the same packages?
23:33 < esden> holyolli: hmm ... seems so ...
23:33 < holyolli> what is the error compiling alsa?
23:33 < holyolli> again some io.h-stuff?
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23:36 < esden> i think that it depends on the os ... i have currently debian on it ... and the version of the sys ... i have : zeta:~# uname -a
23:36 < esden> Linux zeta 2.4.17 #2 Fri Feb 15 08:59:04 CET 2002 alpha unknown
23:36 < esden> zeta:~#
23:36 < esden> and you ?
23:36 < holyolli> snoopy:~# uname -a
23:36 < holyolli> Linux snoopy 2.4.17 #6 Fre Dez 28 00:38:44 CET 2001 alpha unknown
23:37 < holyolli> but under rocklinux
23:37 < esden> i have not fully analized my .err's 
23:37 < esden> mom 
23:37 < holyolli> maybe you just install a rock-alpha-binary - then it maybe better
23:38 < esden> alsa.err : 
23:38 < esden> In file included from /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/sound/driver.h:43,
23:38 < esden>                  from ../alsa-kernel/core/timer.c:22,
23:38 < esden>                  from timer.c:1:
23:38 < esden> /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/adriver.h:105: warning: `struct inode' declared inside parameter list
23:38 < esden> /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/adriver.h:105: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not w
23:38 < esden> hat you want.
23:38 < esden> /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/adriver.h: In function `PDE':
23:38 < esden> /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/adriver.h:107: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
23:38 < esden> /rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/include/adriver.h:108: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
23:38 < esden> make[1]: *** [timer.o] Error 1
23:38 < esden> make[1]: Leaving directory `/rock-linux/src/alsa-driver-0.9.0beta12/acore'
23:38 < esden> make: *** [compile] Error 1
23:38 < esden> sorry ... because of the flood ;-)
23:38 < holyolli> i had installed redhat linux before and had also a lot of compile errors...
23:39 < snyke> oh
23:39 < snyke> shit *g*
23:39 < esden> holyolli: i will finish the build and reinstall the sys
23:39 < snyke> esdi: crescchat chatserver is killing my system :)
23:39 < holyolli> if you need some binaries just for installation - it's no prob...
23:40 < esden> i hava currently all I need to reinstall my box beside aboot ... 
23:40 < esden> when I have aboot I will be able to reinstall
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23:40 < snyke> hi netcrow 
23:40 < netcrow> hi
23:40 < esden> re netcrow 
23:41 < holyolli> doesn't compile it?
23:41 < holyolli> hi netcrow
23:42 < esden> do I have the packet at all ?   
23:42 < holyolli> i c...
23:44 < esden> nope i checked ... i do not have it yet ... 
23:44 < esden> I have to hack it in the sys
23:44 * holyolli ist just wondering, where aboot is...
23:44 < holyolli> *grummel*
23:46 < esden> holyolli: you can get it from debian ... they are currently maintaining it ... there is no official maintainer ... so every distribution is maintaining it for themselves ... ;-)
23:47 < esden> so I will steal it from debian ;-)
23:47 < esden> it works that is enough ;-)
23:47 < holyolli> hehe
23:47 < esden> aboot will be the most work ;-)
23:48 < esden> when I have it then all should be ok ...
23:48 < esden> or do we need something else ?
23:49 < esden> holyolli: what do you think ?
23:49 < netcrow> hmm..i will go smoke now..
23:49 < holyolli> i didn't need anything more
23:49 < holyolli> the only problem were some missing symlinks in /etc/
23:49 < holyolli> but it was an problem in a earlier version of rock
23:49 < holyolli> (and maybe a layer-8-problem... ;-)
23:49 < esden> what are you using to boot rock ?
23:49 < holyolli> aboot...
23:49 < holyolli> ;)
23:50 < holyolli> works w/o probs
23:50 < esden> self compiled ? 
23:50 < esden> or a packet ?
23:50 < holyolli> jepp - but I'm just now missing the binaries :/
23:50 < holyolli> self-compiled
23:50 < holyolli> i also tried milo, etc. but they didnt build on my system
23:50 < esden> aha ok ... I will put it directly in the sys ...
23:51 < esden> so that we have a fully bootable cd like on intel ... that installs correctly and easy like for intel ;-)
23:52 < holyolli> i havent tried aboot with cds...but if it works..yes ;)
23:52 < holyolli> btw: my aboot is quiet simple:
23:52 < holyolli> 1:1/rock2.gz root=/dev/discs/disc0/part3
23:52 < holyolli> and that works... ;)
23:54 < esden> cat holyolli's-aboot-config | mail esden@localhost 
23:54 < esden> ;-)
23:54 < holyolli> *g*
23:54 < holyolli> but you need to have /boot as your first partition on the first harddisk...
23:55 < esden> sure ... 
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