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--- Log opened Wed Apr 24 00:00:55 2002 --- Day changed Wed Apr 24 2002 00:06 < holyolli> huebi? 00:07 < rxr> Hi holyolli 00:08 < holyolli> hi rxr :) 00:10 < rxr> ich will doch nur F1GP spielen - wieso ist das sooo schwer? *grummel* 00:10 < holyolli> mh? 00:10 < rxr> bastel immernoch mit wine rum .... 00:11 < rxr> Formula One Grand Prix III ... 00:11 < holyolli> axxo 00:11 < holyolli> <-- überlegt grad, ob huebi die alpha-patches, die ich im neulich geschickt hatte, schon im cvs hat 00:14 < tsa> rxr: nimm wineX. 00:15 < rxr> gibts das kostenlos? 00:15 < tsa> keine fertigen sourcen, aber das cvs repository liegt bei sourceforge. 00:16 < tsa> https://sourceforge.net/projects/winex/ 00:20 < rxr> tsa: have you tried it? 00:24 < tsa> rxr: yes, a few months ago.....it was more stable than wine. 00:25 < tsa> ...and they released a 2.0 version a week ago.. 00:25 < rxr> ah - I just compile it ;-) 00:25 < fake> damn it 00:25 < tsa> i didn't have the time to test the current version.. 00:25 < fake> glibc is still compiling... 00:26 < rxr> fake: which box? 00:26 < fake> indigo2, still. 00:27 * fake has become good at detecting "find"s by listening to the hard drive lately 00:29 < rxr> hm 00:29 < fake> aw, the hell. i'm gonna get myself some sleep. 00:29 < rxr> on the winex website F1GP III is at least listed to install (but not run) - that is more I got out of wine ... 00:29 < fake> n8 00:29 < rxr> nacht! 00:30 < fake> dange - und viel erfolg noch ;-) 00:30 < holyolli> n8 fake 00:38 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M102P024.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:40 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@62.46.1.100] has joined #rocklinux 00:41 < rxr> hm winex sucked genauso 00:44 < tsa> hm....das ist dumm. 00:46 < holyolli> esden? 00:57 -!- tsa_ [~tsa@pD9E117FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:58 -!- tsa_ [~tsa@pD9E117FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:59 * rxr so jetzt mus mein glibc2.2.5 running Laptop mal winex testen - das muss doch irgendwie mal zu laufen zu bekommen sein *argh* ... 01:01 < rxr> n8 01:01 -!- rxr is now known as rxr_zZ 01:08 < holyolli> n8 rxr 01:22 < holyolli> oki....good night 01:22 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("Connection reset by telekom") 01:23 -!- th [th@delta.boerde.de] has quit ("</wach>") 02:01 * tsa is going to sleep.....cu all. 02:01 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E117FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:58 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford_away, Mike1 03:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_away 05:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_away 05:02 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford_away 05:02 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford_away 05:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_away 05:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_away 05:06 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford_away 05:06 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_away 05:24 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.34] has joined #rocklinux 05:24 -!- rxr_zZ [~rene@port-213-20-128-143.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:24 < Mike1> re 05:27 < Mike1> t[an] you here? 05:29 -!- rxr_zZ [~rene@port-213-20-228-73.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:29 < Mike1> re rxr_zZ 05:33 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.34] has quit ("BitchX: reserve your copy today!") 06:59 < huebi> moin 08:38 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@62.46.1.100] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09:04 -!- th [th@delta.boerde.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:05 < th> moin 09:39 < fake> moin 10:13 < fake> is ja man wieder die hoelle los hier. 10:27 < fake> damn it. 10:28 < fake> i'll stop porting to mips on my indigo2 and use the casiopeia instead. 10:28 < fake> it's faster .... *cries* 10:42 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: praenti, huebi, rxr_zZ, t[an], fake, surprise, inode, SMP, skaar 10:43 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr_zZ, inode, praenti, t[an], skaar, surprise, huebi, SMP, fake 10:51 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("Reconnecting") 10:51 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:51 < fake> re 10:55 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: praenti, rxr_zZ, huebi, t[an], surprise, inode, SMP, skaar 10:55 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M096P017.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 10:55 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr_zZ, inode, praenti, t[an], skaar, surprise, huebi, SMP 11:10 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:11 < bluefire> moin 11:24 < fake> morschn 12:37 < huebi> Moep! So endlich auf der Arbeit angekommen :-) 12:43 < esden> hi all 12:48 < huebi> hi esden 12:52 < fake> hi esden! 12:52 < fake> hi huebi 12:55 < huebi> hi fake 12:55 < fake> finally qt seems to compile 12:55 < huebi> fake: Bist Du nicht am Freitag bei Ripclaw? 12:56 < fake> (not that i need it ;) 12:56 < fake> huebi: evtl, ich weiss noch net so 100%ig obs zeitlich geht. warum? 12:56 < huebi> hmm. Who was it then? 12:56 < fake> huebi: doch, am ehesten ich ;) 12:57 < huebi> fake: Weil ich auch gleich in der Naehe wohne und dann koennte ich auch noch zu ripclaw kommen. 12:59 < fake> huebi: ich wuerde aber nicht zu lange bleiben .... muss noch weiter - 350 km... 12:59 < huebi> fake: Ich habe am Freitag auch noch viel vor ;) Wann kommst Du denn? 13:00 < huebi> Wenn Du kommst... 13:00 < esden> soo ... 13:00 < fake> huebi: so nachmittag 13:00 < fake> huebi: ich hab um 1 schule aus, dann fahr ich gleich, also je nach stau zw. 2 und 3... 13:01 < esden> mails abgegrast ... 13:01 < esden> ich mache mich an den pset patch wieder ... 13:01 < huebi> fake: und bis wann willst Du da sein? 13:01 < huebi> esden: Welcher Patch ist das? 13:03 < esden> dass ist dass mit den processoren ... was ich fuer lrz mache damit rock ne smp kiste fuer compiles bekommt ... 13:03 < huebi> esden: sehr gut :-) 13:04 < esden> ja ... ich habe gerade gelesen dass ich mich wie es aussieht an nem falschen patch zu schaffen gemacht habe ... 13:04 < esden> aber dass werde ich noch sehen ... 13:05 < esden> mir kommt es vor dass es 2 patches sind die mit einander zu tun haben ... 13:05 < fake> huebi: ich werd mir die SGI Hardware ansehen und dann evtl. noch eine rauchen und dann weiter... 13:05 < esden> fake: bist am wochenende in IN? 13:06 < huebi> fake: Na mal sehen, ob das klappen kann. Waehre schoen. 13:06 < fake> huebi: stimmt. 13:06 < fake> esden: ja. 13:06 < huebi> fake: ripclaw hat da noch ne schoene Alpha... 13:08 < fake> huebi: und ich kein geld 13:09 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: praenti, huebi, rxr_zZ, t[an], clifford_away, surprise, inode, SMP, skaar 13:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_away, rxr_zZ, inode, praenti, t[an], SMP, huebi, surprise, skaar 13:10 < fake> ... 13:11 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford_away 13:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_away 13:12 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E0E462.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:13 < fake> *PRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUST* 13:13 < fake> https://www.WRonline.de/images/fotopaletta.jpg 13:14 < huebi> fake: Lang, lang ist's her :-) 13:14 < esden> fake: der obsti will die alpha wahrscheinlich haben ... 13:15 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: martin_, clifford_away 13:15 < esden> du kuenntest die dem dann vorbeibringen wenn du eh beim rippy bist 13:15 < esden> ;-) 13:15 -!- Netsplit over, joins: martin_, clifford_away 13:15 < huebi> esden: genau... 13:15 < esden> argh ... dass dauert ja ewig ... muss der kernel so gross sein .... 13:15 < esden> menno 13:16 < fake> klar. sonst noch was? 13:16 < esden> war nur so ne idee sorry ... 13:17 < fake> ich komm da alle 2 wochen so-gut-wie vorbei. also stress dich mal nich. 13:17 < fake> qt baut immernoch.... scheiss c++° 13:17 < fake> ! 13:18 < esden> ich stresse mich nicht ... ich habe nur gedacht ... dass lasse ich dass naechste mal dann passt es ... 13:19 < fake> ueberlass das denken den CPU's ;) 13:19 < fake> ehm. scripts/Cleanup loescht doch nicht die gedownloaderen Quellen, oder? 13:20 < huebi> o_O wenn Sand denken koennte... ; 13:20 < esden> also wenn ich mir dass build system von dem kernel anschaue dann denke ich doch schon lieber selbst ... dass ist so dermassen brainded .... 13:21 < fake> High Tech - 50& Silikon, 50% Marijuhana 13:21 < esden> PSETID PID TTY TIME CMD 13:21 < esden> - 278 pts/1 00:00:00 bash 13:21 < esden> - 3127 pts/1 00:00:00 psetps 13:21 < esden> - 3128 pts/1 00:00:00 ps 13:22 < esden> geil geil geil ;-) 13:24 < fake> PSETID = SMP? 13:26 < esden> fake: mehr als dass 13:26 < esden> dass sagt aus an welchen processor-set der process gebunden ist ... 13:26 < esden> lrz braucht es fuer deren grossrechner ;-) 13:27 < esden> so 16 processoren ++ 13:43 -!- rxr_zZ is now known as rxr 13:43 < rxr> hi 13:51 < esden> hi rxr 13:51 < fake> hi rxr 13:54 < rxr> I got F1GP 3 to install last night under Wine(X) - but the game tries to load a dll which does some protected mode violation to check teh copy protection of the CD ... so I was not yet able to play it :-((( 13:55 < huebi> hi rxr 13:55 < rxr> oh 2.5.10 is out ;-) 13:57 < fake> rxr> the pay-for version of WineX does some copy protection "tweaks" 13:57 < rxr> fake: I found a patch that removed the cd check from the .exe - I consider installing Windows, patch the game, and copy the files into Wine (the patch.exe also does crash in Wine ...) 13:58 < fake> rxr: good idea. 13:58 < rxr> the kernel changelogs are really too long for a quick "what changed" read ... 13:59 < fake> rxr; i think the new "format" of 'em 's bullshit 14:00 < rxr> the former one was too short - and the new one far too long ... :-( 14:00 < fake> yeah 14:08 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E0E462.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 14:36 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:36 < holyolli> moin 14:40 < bluefire> rxr: get a patched version without copy protection: www.gamecopyworld.com 14:46 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit ("leaving") 14:46 < esden> ha ! first bug found ;-) 14:46 < holyolli> mh? 14:47 < esden> holyolli: pset patch 14:47 < holyolli> axxo 14:51 < rxr> YESH! I see the start movie - the fist time! ;-)))))) 14:57 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 14:57 < armijn> re 14:57 < armijn> why doesn't huebi update the changelog? 14:58 < armijn> just a question. 14:58 < armijn> not the nicest one, I know 14:58 < esden> hi armijn 14:58 < armijn> hi esden 15:00 < esden> [question] does anyone know where to get (or what the name of it is) a very good reference book about the kernel .... IIRC the name was "Kernel Black Book" it had such a unstandard format ... 15:01 < armijn> you mean the one from Coriolis? 15:01 < esden> I have seen this book on Linuxtag two kears ago 15:01 < armijn> it's about the 2.2 kernel 15:01 < esden> armijn: can be do not remember .. 15:02 < armijn> big, unstandard format, right? 15:02 < armijn> and black 15:02 < esden> right 15:02 < armijn> that's the one from coriolis 15:02 < armijn> it's not that good 15:02 < armijn> why not get the one from O'Reilly? 15:02 < esden> really ? 15:02 < armijn> what do you need it for? 15:02 < esden> i need it to learn more about the kernel internals 15:03 < esden> scheduler ... smp and stuff like this 15:03 < armijn> why not take the one from O'Reilly? 15:03 < esden> and how it is working in the linux kernel 15:04 < esden> armijn: hmm ... yes why not ... ;-) 15:04 < armijn> esden: you might want to check out some of the books by W. Richard Stevens 15:05 * armijn puts on Danzig 15:05 < esden> armijn: the most of them are already in my shelf 15:05 < esden> and I already read the most of them 15:06 < esden> but they are about unix in general and not kernel specific 15:06 < armijn> https://www.coriolis.com/technology2.asp 15:07 < armijn> it's there. 15:08 < esden> armijn: which book of the Stevens books do you suggest 15:08 < esden> ? 15:08 < esden> "We are sorry, but Coriolis Store is closed at the moment. Come again soon. 15:08 < esden> " 15:08 < armijn> yeah, I know 15:09 < armijn> esden: advanced programming in the unix environment is ok 15:09 < armijn> and there are a few books about unix internals 15:09 < esden> yes the one is pending for reading ... 15:09 < armijn> oh, and the one from Kirk McKusick about BSD 4.2 is also good 15:09 < armijn> esden: you know www.kernelnewbies.org? 15:10 < esden> I heared of it ... *click* 15:10 < armijn> heh, I can't see the machine from here, but I pet it sometimes :) 15:15 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.34] has joined #rocklinux 15:15 < Mike1> Hi all 15:15 < armijn> hi 15:15 < rxr> HI Mike1 15:16 < Mike1> armijn pretty nice Porting Guide 15:16 < Mike1> rxr got ur Ultra 5 ? 15:17 < rxr> Mike1: not yet - Ripclaw has not sent it out - he likes to finish some tests and will send it between Th and next Mo ... 15:17 * rxr doing a reboot into a glibc-2.2.5 systzem - cu 15:18 < armijn> ultra5...nice 15:18 < armijn> digging into an issue that clifford brought up yesterday... 15:18 < armijn> mailing with the debian sparc guys 15:18 < Mike1> armijn today i start my work in 1.5.14, i will stand by 1.7 for a while 15:19 < armijn> ok 15:20 < Mike1> armijn i hope ur patches work for me 15:20 < Mike1> :) 15:20 < armijn> oh they do, as long as you keep awayfrom the optional packages 15:20 < armijn> I've seen only 4 packages fail 15:20 < armijn> and I expected those 15:21 < armijn> ltrace, lvm, kernel, modules, openssl 15:21 < armijn> ok, that's 5 packages 15:22 < Mike1> dont worry i definitly want to have a base system running before i get into opt or ext pkgs, is useless work if i have no base system to run them in :) 15:22 < armijn> ltrace and lvm should be removed first 15:22 < armijn> they just won't build. 15:22 < armijn> ltrace hasn't been ported 15:22 < armijn> and lvm needs an additional kernel patch' 15:23 < Mike1> which u are working on right? 15:23 < Mike1> :D 15:23 < armijn> no, it already exists 15:24 < Mike1> oh thats good 15:24 < armijn> but actually I don't care for LVM right now 15:24 < Mike1> :) 15:24 < armijn> or journalling filesystems 15:24 < Mike1> BTW i think u should have been more spesific in what basic tools u need to have installed in ur system to port 15:25 -!- anders [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 15:25 < anders> re 15:25 < armijn> mike1: yeah, need to work on that...but not the next two weeks... 15:25 < Mike1> re anders 15:25 * anders wonders who submitted the link to the OpenBSD release-songs... 15:26 < armijn> probably ripclaw 15:26 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:26 < anders> way cool.. :) When's ROCK getting something similar? ;-) 15:26 < snyke> hi all 15:26 < armijn> anders: when we find someone who can sing 15:26 < anders> armijn: ah... might take a while then... ;-D 15:26 < Mike1> armijn is there any insanity level for porting rock that get you to sing? 15:27 < Mike1> hi snyke 15:27 < armijn> mike1: no, just scream 15:27 < anders> I guess most of you have already listened to those tunes...? 15:27 -!- clifford_away is now known as clifford 15:27 < Mike1> armijn what if he come a bit creative and make something like... "The Scream Song" 15:27 < clifford> fake: it's a gcc bug. 15:28 < armijn> clifford: for MIPS? 15:28 * anders wonders if clifford is a good singer... 15:28 < clifford> yes. 15:28 < Mike1> maybe clifford could help us with some mixes and even sing :) 15:28 < anders> mmhmmmm 15:28 < armijn> clifford: I hope you answered me, not anders :) 15:28 < anders> *grin* 15:29 < clifford> armijn: yes anders: I'm a better producer .. 15:29 < Mike1> clifford the only musical work i ve seen from you is tuxtronic 15:29 < anders> :) 15:29 < Mike1> seen/heard 15:31 < armijn> clifford: a gcc bug...nasty 15:32 < clifford> armijn: I've not found it yet - but I can cross-build glibc from mips with gcc3 but not with gcc2. It looks like gcc2 is producing a ".set mips16" in it assembler output. But I don't see those lines when calling gcc with '-S' ... 15:33 < armijn> hmm 15:33 < armijn> why isn't there a good book about gcc? 15:35 < clifford> armijn: "Using and porting GNU CC" - written by Richard M. Stallman 15:35 < Mike1> armijn what are the basic tools are needed to port for sparc64? 15:36 < rxr> hi clifford 15:36 < armijn> mike1: gcc, egcs64, awk, autoconf, automake, sed, diff, bash, make, ... 15:36 < armijn> perl 15:37 < clifford> rxr: hi! 15:37 < Mike1> armijn i mean as the aditional tools such as sparcutils 15:37 < fake> clifford: here. 15:37 < snyke> hm. 15:37 < armijn> mike1: ah 15:37 < armijn> mike1: sparcutils, elftoaout, silo 15:37 < anders> humma.. OpenBSD 3.1 being released next month, Debian Woody going stable next month. What of ROCK is going stable/official next month? :) 15:37 < armijn> mike1: those still need to be added... 15:38 < fake> clifford: the indigo2 crashed again yesterday - this time loosing all files on the external scsi drive. damn it. 15:38 < huebi> anders: Yes 15:38 * Mike1 trying to make check list of utils and later make some feedback to armijns guide 15:38 < fake> then i noticed that this Casio Casiopeia is faster than my Indigo2.... 15:38 < clifford> rxr: why are we "using" abiword 1.1.0 ?? The last version i can find on the download-dir is abiword-1.0.0 .. 15:39 < anders> huebi: Yes to which bit? :) 15:39 < rxr> clifford: sorry - must have been a typo ... 15:39 < huebi> anders: 1.6 15:39 < Mike1> armijn ok thank you 15:39 < Mike1> armijn those are the only ones? 15:39 < armijn> mike1: but there might be soemthing more, not sure 15:39 < anders> huebi: there a pre-release page somewhere? 15:40 < clifford> rxr: should I change it here or will it be in your next patch? 15:40 < armijn> mike1: ask the splack people 15:40 < Mike1> armijn such as? 15:40 < armijn> mike1: if I knew, I would have told you! 15:40 < rxr> clifford: you can chage it - you are currently merging my last two patch-sets? 15:40 < Mike1> armijn :P so i will find it out let you know later when i sent some feedback to ur guide 15:41 < fake> clifford: maybe it will all work if i build with gcc3? *g* 15:42 < armijn> fake: apart from the fact that it's not the official kernel compiler. 15:42 < clifford> fake: I have problems with all the other packages when cross-building with gcc3 .. 15:42 < fake> armijn: *bleh* who cares. 15:42 < armijn> fake: well, the maintainers do care 15:42 < fake> clifford: damn it. i could've guessed it. 15:42 * clifford released snapshot 1.7.0-DEV-200204241528. 15:43 < fake> ... 15:43 < fake> clifford: did you include the postmake libpng link? 15:43 < fake> it really messes up a big part of the system... 15:44 < fake> armijn: then we could build the kernel with 2.96 and everything else with 3, right? 15:45 < Mike1> clifford whats this? 15:45 < Mike1> root@nemesis:/mnt/rock-src-1.7.0-DEV# ./scripts/Update-Src -all 15:45 < Mike1> Updating the entire ROCK Sources ... 15:45 < Mike1> Running 'rsync -rltzv --delete rsync://www.rocklinux.org/rocklinux-snapshot/Documentation/ Documentation/' ... 15:45 < Mike1> failed to connect to www.rocklinux.org - Connection refused 15:45 < Mike1> .... 15:46 < snyke> rocklinux.org is up... 15:46 < armijn> fake: AFAIk the official one is 2.95.3 15:46 < Mike1> snyke i know but for some reason i get those errors 15:46 < snyke> hrm strange 15:47 < snyke> cyron postfix/smtpd[37032]: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: Invalid argument 15:47 < Mike1> clifford ? 15:47 < huebi> anders: https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/snapshots/ - A HP for 1.6 will come in a few days. But I have to work _very_ much in the moment. 15:47 < snyke> ah 15:47 < snyke> fuck 15:47 < snyke> *g* 15:47 < rxr> Mike1: rsync works here ... 15:47 < Mike1> rxr funny thing is only get the error when running ./scripts/Update-Src ... 15:48 < armijn> huebi: you never update the changelog :( 15:48 < anders> huebi: okidoki.. bookmarked that page.. 15:48 < clifford> Mike1: I can connect to the rsync server from here .. 15:48 < huebi> [ ....did you include the postmake libpng link? ] - We need some other ln -sf for at least Oracle 15:49 * anders hopes to get ADSL in the next quarter or so.. 15:49 < anders> Hopefully before the end of June.. 15:49 < huebi> armijn: I have no login to cvs at the moment. I have to fix it later. 15:49 < Mike1> clifford mmm weird i will look depper into this 15:50 < armijn> huebi: ok 15:51 < huebi> armijn: Do your patches also work in ix86? 15:51 < huebi> or better with? 15:51 < anders> huebi: I know all about working lots.. 15:51 < Mike1> armijn i have no space left in my hd i will have to delete my work in 1.7 to go for 1.5.14 :( 15:51 < armijn> huebi: no x86 machine to test with 15:51 < armijn> mike1: fair enough 15:51 < huebi> armijn: Ok I'll test it then. 15:52 < anders> I work on the IBM virtualisation project that got announced officially yesterday.. 15:52 < rxr> hint: never use wine on a glibc-2.1 system # 15:52 < armijn> huebi: but I don't think they influence the x86 build at all... 15:52 < Mike1> armijn no its not, but oh well 15:52 < huebi> rxr why? 15:52 < Mike1> anders whats the project about? 15:53 < armijn> ehr, where can I find debian source packages? 15:53 < rxr> does not work very well (neraly nothgin works) - glibc-2.2 is MUCH better 15:53 < armijn> I feel such a dummy here... 15:53 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:53 < huebi> rxr: Thank You! 15:53 < anders> Mike1: it is a SAN virtualisation product.. it was announced together with the long awaited Storage Tank... 15:53 < rxr> huebi: you use wine? 15:54 < anders> armijn: ftp.debian.org somewhere.. I can give you some paths.. 15:55 < armijn> anders: ah well, never mind... 15:55 < anders> armijn: ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ 15:56 < anders> armijn: depends what release of debian you are after.. the most recent one is woody.. 15:56 < armijn> anders: yeah, but the sources...as in, build descriptions... 15:56 < armijn> never mind... 15:57 < Mike1> armijn apt-get pkg ; cd pkg ; vi Makefile 15:58 < armijn> mike1: no, that's not it... 15:58 < armijn> I'll figure it out myself 15:58 < Mike1> armijn #debian ? 15:59 < Mike1> how much free space do i need to build 1.5.14 base? 15:59 < armijn> mike1: depends. 16:00 < huebi> Mike1: I don't measured exact numbers. But it could be ~3-4GB. Everything is now copied instead of being moved. 16:01 < huebi> Mike1: base+opt 16:01 < Mike1> huebi i don care for the opt now just base 16:01 < holyolli> huebi: moin 16:01 < huebi> moin holyolli 16:01 < armijn> mike1: I think about 2 GB 16:02 < holyolli> huebi: was the cvs commit correct or did i make some mistakes? 16:03 < Mike1> armijn gut 16:05 < esden> armijn: there seems to be a new version of the coriolis book ... from 2001 16:06 < esden> so I suppose that this one is containing the 2.4 kernel 16:06 < huebi> holyolli: I'll have a look later. I'm very busy here at work. :-) 16:07 < armijn> mike1: hey, I'm not german, so... :) 16:07 < Mike1> armijn ok then ... Bien !!! *G 16:09 < armijn> no french. 16:15 < Mike1> <fede2:#splack> Mike1: Hey, finally I found how the heck to build an ISO image that will boot on blades 100. 16:17 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit ("leaving") 16:22 < Mike1> <fede2:#splack> Mike1: The initrd needed to be (aprox) smaller that 3M. Right know, Cris Newport is working on this workarround, but the test I made worked 16:22 < Mike1> fine. 16:29 < snyke> hm 16:29 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux ("work") 16:29 < rxr> wine is hacking - the registry hacking is the worst thing of it ... 16:30 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!") 16:32 -!- clifford [~clifford@M096P017.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:32 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.5.62] has joined #rocklinux 16:33 < huebi> rxr: I'm not using wine but I know and meet regulary with Uwe Bonne, one of the wine developers. 16:33 < huebi> Uwe Bonnes 16:35 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:35 < rxr> oh! 16:35 < tsa> moin. 16:36 < huebi> hi tsa 16:36 -!- ascon [~Albe@a-ge40-59.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 16:36 < tsa> hi huebi 16:36 -!- ascon [~Albe@a-ge40-59.tin.it] has left #rocklinux () 16:37 < tsa> gibt's in 1.5 nen opera-package? wenn ja - schon geupdatet auf 6.0 beta2 ? 16:38 < th> oehm 16:38 < th> sekunde 16:38 < th> opera-5.05_tp1-shared_qt-libnpp-0.1.1.x86.tar.gz 16:38 < th> # [M] G.Bevin gbevin@theleaf.be 16:38 < tsa> hm....uralt. 16:38 < th> opera-6.0-20020110.1-static_qt.i386.tar.gz is das besser? 16:39 < huebi> Prinzenrolle not found! Go and fetch some cookies. - *click* *click* *click* .... 16:40 < huebi> bbl 16:40 < tsa> https://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/browsers/opera/linux/600/beta2/opera-6.0-20020412.1-static-qt.i386.tar.gz 16:40 < tsa> th: nee.....ist nicht aktuell. 16:40 < th> tsa: die extension is simple, updatest du sie? 16:41 < th> tsa: ich kann sie dir ganz unkompliziert per mail schicken und du machst sie aktuell. 16:41 < tsa> th: ich hab keinen zugriff auf huebi's cvs.... 16:41 < tsa> fuer den 1.7 tree kann ich das heute abend wohl machen.. 16:41 < th> soll ich dir das per mail schicken? 16:41 < tsa> brauchst du nicht, ich denk schon so dran ;) 16:41 < th> ich kann es dann bei huebi einchecken 16:41 < huebi> tsa: brauchst du ein login fuer cvs? 16:41 < th> oder so 16:41 < th> ;) 16:42 < tsa> huebi: hm.....jo, mach mal.. 16:43 < tsa> sjaenick:$1$2VWKLE2p$XKH9lS9vpLDCgCo.H0Mxj1: 16:43 < tsa> (md5) 16:44 < huebi> tsa: login = tsa? 16:45 < tsa> ok. 16:45 < huebi> Sebastian Jaenicke? 16:46 < tsa> hier! *meld* 16:46 < tsa> ;) 16:47 < huebi> tsa: Probier mal login 16:48 < tsa> Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive). 16:48 < huebi> md5 paste is perhaps corrupted 16:48 < Mike1> ok see you later guys 16:48 -!- Mike1 [~mike@196.40.44.34] has quit ("BitchX: its everywhere you want to be") 16:49 < tsa> huebi: dann setz nen passwort und schicks per /msg ...ich aender es dann gleich... 16:51 < tsa> Password changed. 16:52 < huebi> tsa: jo, cvs should do now 16:59 < tsa> $CVSROOT ? 16:59 < tsa> /home/cvs/CVSROOT ? 17:01 -!- anders [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit ("Time to go do something useful....") 17:05 -!- snyke_ [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:08 < tsa> hat sich erledigt. 17:08 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 17:08 < armijn> re 17:11 < esden> ha ha I have it! ... 17:11 < armijn> clifford: I did some research about the glibc stuff that you were wondering about 17:11 < armijn> clifford: answer is in your mailbox 17:12 < huebi> re 17:12 * clifford establishinf imap thru ssh connection .. 17:13 < huebi> tsa: cvs -d :ext:tsa@rocklinux.dyndns.org:/home/cvs/cvsroot co rock-1.5 17:13 < huebi> tsa: axxo\ 17:16 < armijn> clifford: basically, it means that the way we do it now, we're safe. 17:16 * armijn relieved 17:16 < armijn> talking about relieving, I'm gonna relieve myself now 17:17 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 17:17 < Mike1> re 17:17 < tsa> huebi: dein cvs ist komisch. 17:18 < huebi> tsa: wizo? 17:18 < tsa> wenn ich aus dem rock-1.5 Verzeichnis committen will, erkennt er nur INDEX.1.4 und INDEX.1.5 als geaendert. 17:18 < tsa> das opera.ext hat er uebersehen.. 17:18 < tsa> ich habs jetzt einzeln commitet.. 17:19 < huebi> opera.ext has been there already? 17:19 < tsa> yes. 17:19 < tsa> ...and i did not forget saving my changes... ;-) 17:20 < huebi> hmm. Ahh... the time on the server could differ from yours, perhaps. 17:20 < clifford> armijn: that can not be right. 17:20 < tsa> i changed opera.ext, did a ./scripts/Build-Index and then "cvs commit" .. 17:20 < armijn> clifford: why not? 17:20 < tsa> huebi: i worked directly on your box... 17:20 < huebi> hmm 17:20 < armijn> clifford: all the distro's on sparc/ultrasparc do it this way 17:21 < clifford> If you compare the assember inlines in asm-sparc/unistd.h and asm-sparc64/unistd you will see that sparc and sparc64 kernels do implement system call in a incompatible maner. 17:21 < huebi> cu 17:21 < huebi> I go home now 17:21 < armijn> bye huebi 17:21 < clifford> Beside all other differences: sparc is using software trap 0x10 for system calls and sparc64 is using software trap 0x6d .. 17:22 < armijn> clifford: I don't know... 17:22 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A59.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:22 < armijn> clifford: but this is the way Debian does it as well and it seems to work 17:22 < clifford> the glibc _must_ know if the kernel is sparc or sparc64. 17:22 < t[an]> hi there 17:22 < armijn> clifford: have you seen the generate-asm script? 17:23 < clifford> the only question is if it is using the kernel headers to get the assembler code or has a copy of it. 17:23 < armijn> I think it's using the kernel headers 17:24 < clifford> Usually the glibc has it's own copy of this assembler code - so when you build glibc without letting it know that the kernel is sparc64, it will not run on that kernel. 17:25 < armijn> clifford: you mean if it uses /usr/src/linux/include? 17:25 * clifford reading glibc sources .. 17:26 < armijn> clifford: regarding this subject I trust this debian guy. He's the maintainer, so... 17:26 < armijn> and seems to know a lot about it 17:27 -!- term_emu [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:30 < armijn> I'm puzzled... 17:30 < esden> cu all ... I will continue the fight with the kernel lateron ... 17:31 < t[an]> bye esden 17:31 < armijn> esden: hehe, cu 17:34 * clifford is confused ... 17:35 < armijn> clifford: because they say it works? 17:36 < clifford> because it looks like glibc is using software trap 0 (and other registers for the parameters) .. 17:37 < armijn> hmm 17:38 < term_emu> re 17:40 < t[an]> hi term_emu 17:41 < Mike1> Jonathan como estas hoy? 17:41 < armijn> he changed his nick again? 17:41 < t[an]> Hola Miguel 17:41 < Mike1> armijn yeah 17:41 < t[an]> hoy estoy bien, al menos no como otrs dias 17:41 < t[an]> y vos? 17:41 < Mike1> very good thanks 17:42 < t[an]> :) 17:42 < t[an]> ive finished with the first book 17:42 < t[an]> join #flood 17:46 < armijn> clifford: ah well, you're the guru :) 17:46 < snyke_> hm 17:49 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:55 -!- snyke_ is now known as snyke 17:57 < armijn> ah well 17:57 < armijn> I'm off, dinner date with a few other geeks 17:57 < armijn> cu 17:57 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 18:02 < t[an]> brb 18:02 -!- t[an] [~demian@208.165.55.137] has quit ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.0c18 for the Nintendo Gameboy today!") 18:05 -!- jonath[an] [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 18:08 * clifford is even more confused. 18:09 < clifford> I cant find the definitions for the trap entry points in the kernel sources .. 18:09 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh 18:10 < clifford> however - I'll just believe that it works ... :-) 18:12 < tsa> bbl. 18:12 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:12 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 18:12 < Mike1> ew 18:12 < Mike1> re 18:13 < clifford> I need a little break so I can work on my commercial projects ... 18:13 < clifford> cu later .. 18:13 -!- clifford is now known as clifford_away 18:15 -!- blindy|baka is now known as blindcoder 18:15 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 18:16 < Mike1> hello blindcoder 18:17 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 18:39 < Mike1> can anyone please make traceroute to 196.40.44.17 and paste it to me 18:40 < blindcoder> the complete traceroute? 18:41 < Mike1> just the last line 18:41 < blindcoder> 18 * * * 18:41 < Mike1> before that? 18:41 < blindcoder> 17 draco-fe-4-0-0.racsa.co.cr (196.40.31.163) 207.599 ms draco-fe-1-0-0.racsa.co.cr (196.40.31.131) 176.328 ms draco-fe-4-0-0.racsa.co.cr (196.40.31.163) 174.327 ms 18:42 < Mike1> blindcoder do it again and let it go 19 to see it keeps * * * 18:42 < blindcoder> it's still going. now at 24 * * * 18:42 < Mike1> ok thank you blindcoder 18:42 < blindcoder> np ;) 18:43 * blindcoder is continuing work on his .pz configurator 18:47 -!- martin81 [~martin@pD9EB11E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:48 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50807C1C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:48 < Mike1> hi hackbard 18:48 < hackbard> hiho miguel 18:49 < Mike1> wie geht es dir? 18:49 < hackbard> finished my first expermiment succesfully! :) 18:49 < Mike1> good mom 18:50 < blindcoder> hackbard> what experiment? 18:51 < hackbard> dielectrical spectroscopy 18:51 < blindcoder> that doesn't have to have any meaning to me, does it? 18:54 < hackbard> not realy :) 18:54 < hackbard> expect ur studying physics 18:56 * snyke bitz 18:58 < blindcoder> err... not really... not at all to be honest ;) 19:20 * blindcoder hi9ts his table 19:23 * praenti is here 19:23 < praenti> hi 19:24 < praenti> does anyone know a board where buffered SDRAM is needed? 19:25 < huebi> praenti: SUN Ultra 5 19:25 < huebi> compaq servers 19:25 < huebi> praenti: SUN Netra X1 19:25 < huebi> praenti: SUN Ultra 10 19:25 < praenti> interessant. hab da namlich 256mb rumliegen. bei ebay für 70 EUR ersteigert 19:26 < praenti> war da als EDO-Ram ausgezeichnet *lol* 19:26 < huebi> 1 riegel? 19:26 < praenti> 2 riegel 19:26 * blindcoder smashing his keyboard onto his head 19:26 < huebi> Prentui: HABEN WILL! 19:27 * rxr has GP3 now running with sound and joystick ;-)))))))))) 19:27 < blindcoder> rxr> wineX? 19:27 < praenti> huebi: moment. die brauch ich aber unter umständen noch selber. nebenbei sind die noch nicht getestet 19:27 < huebi> blindcoder: I hope it's one of the unbreakable old IBM-"hack-"boars. 19:28 < blindcoder> huebi> iie.it's a new, easy-to-damage Dexxa Wireless 19:28 < rxr> blindcoder: jups 19:28 < rxr> blindcoder: kann aber auch sein das wine auch tut - ich hatte in wine und winex am anfang die selben fehler gemacht ... 19:28 < blindcoder> rxr> you remind me of playing another round of Septerra Core... 19:28 < huebi> blindcoder: The cheap ones cost too much if they can break 19:29 * blindcoder turns his head and looks at the Keyboard-Graveyard where 5 unusable Keyboards are lying... 19:29 < rxr> blindcoder: nur die graphic in den menus sind die farben noch falsch ... 19:29 < huebi> Head = selfhealing = priceless 19:29 < blindcoder> *lol* 19:30 < blindcoder> rxr> ich denke das kann man verkraften ;) 19:30 -!- martin81 [~martin@pD9EB11E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 19:30 < praenti> snyke: da? 19:31 < blindcoder> I just found out why my pz-configurator didn't work. It might help if I use theright variables at the right places... 19:38 -!- CodeMonkey [~CodeMonke@x8b4e53b0.dhcp.okstate.edu] has left #rocklinux () 19:40 < rxr> blindcoder: weisst du was man fuer funktionsfaehiges direct3d machen muss? 19:41 * Mike1 working 19:45 < blindcoder> unter wine? gute frage... 19:46 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C9E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:57 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has joined #rocklinux 19:59 < tomik> hello 19:59 < huebi> hi tomik 20:03 < huebi> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 492560384 Sep 13 2001 rock-i686-base-1.4.0.iso <- sometimes somthing comes gack :-) 20:04 < huebi> Is it possible to encrypt nfs? 20:13 < jonath[an]> back 20:13 < jonath[an]> hi there 20:13 < SMP> huebi: encrypt while it goes over the network? 20:13 < praenti> hi jonath[an] 20:14 < huebi> SMP: Yes while transfering data. Not an encrypted fs. 20:14 < SMP> huebi: well. use IPsec. or CIPE or any other rather broken secure tunnel 20:16 < SMP> but be warned, IPsec *sucks* with Linux 20:17 < huebi> SMP: I just found something with ssh. I read that. What I want is a file system for maintenance for root mountable on any client in the net. So that I can have my development tools and config files temporary on every box in the network. 20:18 < hackbard> especially masquerading ipsec (vpn), what i tried the some days ago 20:18 < hackbard> -the 20:18 * huebi is just cleaning the 3rd disk for world... 20:19 < SMP> ahh :) 20:21 < th> sounds great ;) 20:21 < th> hi SMP, btw 20:22 < blindcoder> praenti: SYNOPSIS: ./pz-config.sh [ <base> | <ext> ] 20:23 < blindcoder> wow... #anime-pixel: [O/13 N/420 I/0 V/52 F/0] 20:23 < huebi> https://www.samag.com/documents/s=4072/sam0203d/sam0203d.htm <- nfs over ssh with iptables. sounds good. I'll test it at work. 20:28 < praenti> blindcoder: kannst du das auch für 1.7 schreiben? find ich nämlich ganz nett 20:29 < blindcoder> sobald ich mich mit 1.7 auseinandergesetzt habe. ich finds eigentlich ziemlich scheisse so wie's is... werds vielleicht durch ein C-Programm mit ncurses austauschen... bin mit der Oberflaeche ziemlich unzufrieden 20:29 < praenti> funzt aber im moment nicht mit ext 20:30 < praenti> wär besser. 20:30 < blindcoder> 2funzt NICHT mit ext? 20:30 < blindcoder> wundert mich jetzt etwas... 20:31 < praenti> blindcoder: macht einen darstellungsfehler und bei ext müsste man das ext behandeln. die pz werden ja aus den ext generiert 20:31 < blindcoder> mhm... naja ist ein erster versuch... wenn man manuell das ext beachtet sollte es gehen ;) 20:33 < th> haben wir hier ein wenig fax erfahrung im channel? 20:33 < th> per modem faxen>? 20:34 < th> hylafax oder sowas gibts da ja 20:36 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has quit ("Client Exiting") 20:37 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B3E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:37 < tsa> re. 20:37 < th> das hab ich befuerchtet 20:37 < th> wb tsa 20:40 < Mike1> re tsa 20:42 < th> huebi: kein hylafax in der 1.5? 20:43 < huebi> th Don't know :-( 20:43 < th> huebi: hattest du nicht mal von sf uebernommen? 20:43 < th> im sf tree isses drin. 20:43 < th> ich nehms mal mit rueber, wie? 20:44 < huebi> th: Jo mach' das. Danke :-) 20:45 < th> [X-rm-fetch] 20:45 < th> wassen das? 20:46 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 < holyolli> hi 20:46 < tsa> tag lolli. 20:46 < holyolli> hallo tesa 20:48 < th> tsa: hattest du vorhin ./scripts/Build-Index benutzt? 20:48 < th> (nach deiner opera aenderung) 20:48 < tsa> th: jupp. 20:48 < tsa> wieso? 20:48 < th> nett 20:48 < th> wollts nur wissen. 20:49 < th> woher wusstest du, dass du das nehmen sollst? 20:49 < th> ich hab das zwar geschrieben aber es nirgens documentiert, IRIC 20:49 < th> s,IRIC,IIRC, 20:49 < tsa> th: scripts/Puzzle gabs nich. und das war das einzige, was noch unter scripts/ rumlag.. 20:49 < th> hehe ok 20:49 < tsa> aber irgendwas ist da sowieso broken auf dem cvs... 20:50 < th> wieso? 20:50 < th> was? 20:51 < tsa> nach einem "vi ext-config/opera/opera.ext ; ./scripts/Build-Index ; cvs commit ) hat mir der cvs-server nur INDEX.1.( 20:51 < tsa> 4|5) als geeaendet erkannt. 20:51 < tsa> das geaenderte opera.ext hat er einfach mal ignoriert.. 20:51 < th> hmmm 20:51 < th> bei mir hat er es aber gepatched 20:52 < tsa> ich hab's dann nochmal einzeln committet, dann klappte es.. 20:52 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C9E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 20:52 < th> opera-6.0-20020412.1-static-qt.i386.tar.gz 20:52 < tsa> hm....komisch das. 20:52 < th> sag mal bescheid wenn du ein reproduzierbares problem siehst 20:52 < tsa> ok, mach ich. 20:53 < huebi> Ich werde mir das die Tage mal ansehen. Vielleicht finde ich ja was. Aber behaltet das trotzdem mal weiter im Auge 20:53 < holyolli> re huebi... :) 20:54 < praenti> wo ist esden eigentlich heute 20:55 < th> huebi: schaust du selber in den bugtracker? 20:55 < th> huebi: da is ein ticket fuer dich 20:56 < huebi> danke th Das ist das erst ! *freu* The other was from acow 20:56 < th> das is schon von montag ;) 20:58 < huebi> https, Port 443, brauche ich fuer ssh mit transconnect per http CONNECT durch den proxy. 21:00 < th> hey hey hey 21:00 < th> wozu haben wir einen bugtracker? 21:00 < th> schreibs rein ich antworte ;) sonst kriegen wir das ja nie getestet 21:00 < jonath[an]> -+- away -+- 21:01 < th> huebi: kannst du nich auf 9443 einen https aufmachen? 21:02 < jonath[an]> afK 21:02 < jonath[an]> <dalai|afK> ps2 ;) 21:02 < jonath[an]> <hackbard> lol 21:02 < jonath[an]> <hackbard> nice pic 21:02 < jonath[an]> #hackdawor dalai|afK H ~max@-*?*-37563.dip.t-dialin.net (hugo) 21:02 < jonath[an]> #hackdawor pmiP H+ pimpv303@-*?*-40312.dip.t-dialin.net (get di gar nix an) 21:02 < jonath[an]> #hackdawor hackbard Hr@ ~hackbard@192.168.10.-*?*-40967 (hackbard) 21:02 < jonath[an]> #hackdawor Sarah Hr@ fuckwhois@-*?*-39106.dip.t-dialin.net (-) 21:02 < jonath[an]> #hackdawor Dreibot G ~Dreibot@-*?*-41267.dip.t-dialin.net (bockdan) 21:02 < jonath[an]> #hackdawor jonath[an] H ~jonvargas@208.165.55.-*?*-52806 (200114873 Jonathan Vargas Rodriguez) 21:02 < jonath[an]> #hackdawor |defcon_on Hr@ ~eggdrop@192.168.10.-*?*-40823 (Defcon One) 21:02 -!- jonath[an] [~demian@208.165.55.137] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:03 -!- jonath[an] [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 21:04 < huebi> th: WIE WARE es mit 2381? 21:04 < th> wie exquisit aber ok 21:04 < huebi> compaq-https 2381/tcp # Compaq HTTPS 21:04 < huebi> hehe 21:04 < th> am leichtesten waere es wenn du einen link reinsetzt 21:05 < praenti> in welchem paket ist ip und tc drin? 21:05 < tsa> iproute2 21:06 < hackbard> huh? wtf ... 21:06 < th> jo 21:13 -!- inode [~inode@cs666986-234.satx.rr.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:15 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C9E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:18 < tsa> Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris 21:18 < tsa> I have to change the root password urgently due to some security problems. 21:18 < tsa> How do I do it? 21:19 -!- inode [~inode@cs666986-234.satx.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:19 < tsa> Manchen Leuten sollte man wirklich nix anderes als Windoze geben... *seufz* 21:21 < th> tsa: passwd? 21:22 < tsa> th: auf solche Postings antworte ich nicht... 21:23 < tsa> th: im Usenet ist genug Muell unterwegs.. 21:24 < th> hehe jo 21:24 < term_aweh> gute nacht mitanand 21:24 -!- term_aweh [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has quit ("zz") 21:24 < tsa> ich sollte mal anfangen, nach "X-Newsreader" zu scoren.. 21:24 < tsa> ;) 21:24 * snyke re 21:25 < blindcoder> oyasumi nasai 21:25 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy|sleep 21:26 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: Mike1 21:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mike1 21:29 < th> th.segfault ~ > telnet rocklinux.dyndns.org 2381 21:29 < th> Trying 80.129.127.224... 21:29 < th> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused 21:31 < snyke> mepmep :) 21:42 < jonath[an]> re 21:45 -!- Netsplit carter.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: Mike1 21:45 -!- jonath[an] is now known as d3miaway 21:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Mike1 21:50 < d3miaway> wie geht es dir? 21:55 < praenti> snyke: hast du dem esden schon deine compaq-kiste gegeben? 21:59 < snyke> hm 21:59 < snyke> nein 21:59 < snyke> er hat sie noch nicht abgeholt 22:00 < snyke> @praenti 22:09 < praenti> snyke: was hast du da für ram drin? 22:10 < snyke> oehm 22:10 < snyke> ka was das is 22:10 < snyke> 64megs >_< sind immo drin 22:10 < snyke> simm is da drin 22:10 < snyke> 60ns 22:11 < snyke> sonst haett ich schon mehr rein, aber der frisst nur 60ns 22:11 < praenti> shitt. wollte nämlich wissen ob du buffered sdram drin hast. brauch ne kiste zum testen von 2 128mb riegeln 22:11 < snyke> hm 22:11 < snyke> buffered? 22:11 < praenti> jo 22:11 < snyke> wo is unterschied? 22:11 * snyke is hardware nich so >_< 22:12 < praenti> unbuffered ist normalerweise. buffered ist meistens in sun, compaq, ... zu finden 22:12 < rxr> praenti: sollen buffered nich auch in ganz normalen mainboards tuen? 22:12 < praenti> einziger unterschied ist die obere kerbe und ein zusätzlicher buffer-logic-baustein 22:13 < rxr> da sind doch einfach nur treiber drauf um den Bus nicht so stark zu belasten ... 22:13 < praenti> rxr: passt aber nicht rein 22:13 < rxr> praenti: hm 22:13 < snyke> hmm 22:13 < snyke> der hannes hat compaq kisten 22:13 < snyke> ganz neue 22:13 < snyke> aber der wird sie ned aufmachen deswegen 22:13 < praenti> der 30 dürfte auch eine haben 22:14 < praenti> kennt sich jemand mit tc aus 22:14 < praenti> ich möchte auf eine mac-adresse nur noch die hälfte vom dsl-upstream geben 22:14 < rxr> als mit standard wine laeft gp3 nicht - nur mit winex ... 22:15 < rxr> s/als/also/ 22:21 -!- _wschlich [~wschlich@pD955CF73.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Success) 22:24 < praenti> ok. hab was gefunden. geh jetzt aber schlafen. gn8 22:24 -!- praenti is now known as praenti_ZzZ 22:34 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C9E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 22:53 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("Connection reset by telekom") 23:02 < SMP> rxr: you there? 23:11 < rxr> SMP: jups 23:12 < SMP> rxr: ST:ENT 01.21 ist da. 23:12 < rxr> oh. Geht es weiter? ;-) 23:12 < SMP> jo. ganz frisch 23:12 < SMP> aber doofe Folge. 23:13 * rxr downloading 23:34 < snyke> n8 23:35 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("[BX] For a good time, call 1-900-4BitchX") --- Log closed Thu Apr 25 00:00:09 2002