--- Log opened Mon Apr 29 00:00:08 2002
--- Day changed Mon Apr 29 2002
00:03 < ripclaw> SMP: care if i remove you from sparc home ?
00:03 < ripclaw> (you`re still listed in the devel list
00:03 < SMP> please do so
00:03 < ripclaw> i think i`ll remove it and make it point to the list.
00:03 < tsa> ripclaw: 
00:03 < tsa> You don't have permission to access /people/ripclaw/projects/ports/sparc64/doc/sun-current-patches.txt on this server.
00:03 < tsa> could you please fix the permissions..?
00:04 < ripclaw> ok, will be fixed in next upload in 15 mins. what do you think about removing the developer list in the page altogether.
00:05 < tsa> hm...don't know....why do you want to remove it?
00:06 < ripclaw> ok, i currently have lots of people in there that are no longer working on it.
00:06 < ripclaw> i have jan, me and armijn left that are active. 
00:06 < ripclaw> idea is to say - check the list.
00:06 < tsa> sounds ok..
00:07 < ripclaw> and just have the maintainer names up there.
00:07 < ripclaw> damnit, the html needs a readability rewrite sometime soon.
00:08 < tsa> i'd like to see the telekom-like color disappear.. ;-)
00:09 < tsa> but i guess that's an issue with clifford's scripts..
00:09 < SMP> he can write a script to change to color in two minutes ;->
00:10 < tsa> SMP: sure he can - but it still has to be done..
00:13 < ripclaw> sparc page updated tsa check back
00:14 < ripclaw> SMP tsa - i am fine with it. i would prefer beige and purple, though (SUN colors)
00:15 < ripclaw> anyone - is enlightenment still in the latest releases ?
00:15 < ripclaw> i plan to update bluemoon soon, and this is a critical issue for this box :-)
00:15 < tsa> Patches against the current snapshots - we are in 1.5.14 and 1.7.x already !
00:15 < tsa> hm...link leads to a single snapshot.
00:16 < tsa> irritating, IMHO.
00:16 < esden> ripclaw: the images on the bottom of the page are wrong
00:16 < tsa>  Stable Version: 16.5
00:16 < tsa> (enlightenment)
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00:19 < ripclaw> tsa: will change that.
00:20 < ripclaw> tsa: enlightenment in base or ext ?
00:20 < tsa> i don't know...i currently don't have a 1.5 tree here..
00:20 < ripclaw> the imges on bottom are clifford... hmm....
00:23 < ripclaw> ok, updating the stuff again.
00:32 < ripclaw> updated sparc homepage, problems should now all be solved
00:43 < rxr> 04/29   4k To:drock-user@list [dRock-user] dRock - 1.6.0-rc2
00:43 < SMP> ripclaw: been rocking to the OpenBSD 3.1 song already, btw.? ;-)
00:44 < ripclaw> SMP already have it downloaded, but not listened to. gotta rewire the entire room, and audio was not immediately necessary now. have to limit time spending
00:44 < ripclaw> is it good ?
00:44 < SMP> really cool
00:45 < ripclaw> ok, will slurch that at wrk 2morrow
00:46 * ripclaw `s time is over for now - needs to sleep().
00:46 < ripclaw> n8
00:46 < SMP> cu ripclaw
00:46 < esden> n8 ripclaw 
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00:47 < esden> ok I will continue to mess around with dietlibc tomorrow
00:47 < esden> cu all
00:47 < esden> n8
00:48 < tsa> cu esden
00:49 < tsa> hm....
00:50 < tsa> does anybody know a _cheap_ way to ship a indigo2 with monitor from us to .de?
00:51 < esden> read ripclaw's mail in rock-ports .. ;-)
00:51 < tsa> which one?
00:52 < esden> mom
00:53 < tsa> subject will be sufficient..
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00:53 < esden> http://www1.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/rock-ports/2002-4/82.html
00:54 < tsa> ARRRGH - Not __that__ mail!
00:54 < rxr> haha
00:55 < tsa> i could get a sgi indy2 with 20" crt - but shipping would be awfully expensive..
00:55 < esden> yes that mail ;-)
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00:56 < esden> tsa: you have to know if you want to pay that ...
00:57 < tsa> we need a developer who travels between us and europe on a regular basis...
00:57 < esden> hehe sure ... but all rock developers beside perhups Pjotr do not have money ...
00:58 < tsa> hm...
00:58 < tsa> pjotr has money?
01:01 < esden> AFAIK he is a millionair
01:01 < rxr> esden: huh?
01:01 < hackbard> he is mighty rxr - dont mess with him ;)
01:01 < esden> that is what I heard ... but I can also be wrong ...
01:02 < esden> if I am not wrong clifford told me that some time ago ...
01:02 < hackbard> i thought i heard that from clifford too on 18c3 - though i am not sure .. maybe that was a joke
01:02 < tsa> hm....
01:02 < rxr> hackbard: mighty or rich? ;-)
01:02 < rxr> hackbard: there is a BIG difference ... ;-)
01:02 < esden> hackbard: yepp he told me that also on 18c3
01:02 < hackbard> ur mighy if ur ritch, nor? ;)
01:03 < rxr> hackbard: only if you are very rich ;-)
01:03 < rxr> but you can be mighty without being rich ;-)
01:03 < hackbard> if clifford has a new horse soon, you schouldnt wonder why sf repository will still exist in 1.7 ;)
01:03 < hackbard> jk
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01:04 < rxr> hackbard: *lol* ,)
01:05 < rxr> hackbard: I already fixed > 700 errors in the sf rep - so who cares ...
01:05 < esden> scheisse ich weiss nicht wo ich dass reinpacken soll ...
01:06 < hackbard> thast much ..
01:06 < esden> naja ich denke weiter morgen nach ...
01:06 < esden> ich muss jetzt echt inn mebbi .. ich muss um 9:00 aufstehen
01:06 < rxr> ich besuche jetzt auch meine 2m ...
01:07 < hackbard> esden: n8!
01:07 < hackbard> rxr: n8!
01:07 < rxr> n8 pl
01:07 < hackbard> ;)
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01:07 < esden> mich regt jetzt dietlibc arg auf ...
01:07 < esden> naja macht nichts ...
01:07 < esden> nachtele jungs ... und maedels ... wenn sich jemand in der letzten zeit umgewandelt haben sollte ;-)
01:08 < hackbard> hehe, du traeumst doch schon :) 
01:08 < hackbard> n8 
01:15 < tsa> n8 esden
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01:51 < hackbard> bye
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02:16 < tsa> *gaehn*
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02:22 < tsa> hm...nix mehr los...ich geh denn wohl auch mal pennen.
02:22 < tsa> n8.
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08:59 < term_emu> re
09:02 < huebi> moin term_emu 
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09:35 < anders> re
09:36 < huebi> hi anders 
09:37 < SMP> Moin
09:37 < SMP> huebi! ;)
09:37 < huebi> moin SMP 
09:38 < SMP> huebi: da ist eben ein Paket angekommen :-)
09:38 < huebi> SMP: That's not possible! It's send via snail mail ;>
09:41 < huebi> SMP: Nothing broken? The package is not the very best.
09:42 < SMP> everything looks OK
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09:43 < rxr> moin
09:44 < SMP> huebi: what's the difference between the two controllers? which one should I use? ;)
10:01 < huebi> SMP: If you want to use RAID-5 use the DPT Controller
10:02 < SMP> any drawbacks then?
10:02 < huebi> no, except that you can only use the space of 3 disks
10:03 < rxr> hm 2.5.11 is out - I woneder if Linus never will create -pre kernels anymore ...
10:03 < huebi> The ICP-Vortex can only RAID 0, 1, 10
10:03 < huebi> rxr: No, he won't anymore.
10:04 < SMP> huebi: yes of course. but RAID 5 makes for more space than 1 or 10
10:04 < rxr> huebi: Has he announced this? Why?
10:04 < SMP> huebi: and RAID0 is out of question for me
10:07 < huebi> SMP: Use the DPT. It's also faster than the older ICP
10:07 < huebi> SMP: I have setup diskkettes at home for both.
10:08 < huebi> SMP: You need for the DPT a working mouse
10:08 < SMP> huh
10:09 < huebi> SMP: I search for the drivers/setup stuff.. The mouse is not really nessesary, but you have to find out the undocumented Keyboard funktions.
10:09 < SMP> mouse is no problem technically
10:09 < SMP> still strange ;)
10:10 < huebi> SMP: well, the DPT came up in the time windows got modern. 
10:10 < SMP> I know Compaqs have a Windows 3.1 or so as 'extended BIOS', but I didn't know RAID controllers want mice ..
10:11 < SMP> I see
10:12 < huebi> SMP: It's almost the same with DPT. A long time ago this was very modern ;>
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10:14 < huebi> SMP: What is the type of the DPT?
10:15 < SMP> SX4030/1UW ?
10:16 < huebi> SMP: yes, the may be right. I have a look
10:16 < SMP> no hurry.
10:17 < huebi> SMP: Is there something with 3332 or similar?
10:17 < SMP> I likely won't have time today and tomorrow anyway
10:18 < SMP> PM3334UW
10:18 < huebi> Bingo
10:19 < huebi> http://www.dpt.com/worldwide/support/drivers_by_product.html?cat=/Product/PM3334UW 
10:19 < huebi> SMP: I'll give you a working floppy image. Thats much less work.
10:20 < SMP> Ok, great
10:20 < SMP> just for the records.. it works with Linux, right? ;)
10:20 < huebi> rxr: did you get my flood about linus' kernel versions
10:20 < huebi> SMP: Yes, definitly yes. :-)
10:21 < huebi> SMP: And it worked without any problems for about 3 months.
10:22 < huebi> SMP: With a standard kernel driver
10:22 < huebi> SMP: The marketing name of the controller is: SmartRAID IV
10:23 < SMP> ah
10:24 < huebi> SMP: It's not really fast, but the bottle necks should be: network speed, cpu performance and then raid performance
10:25 < huebi>     *  On-board 32-bit 68040/40MHz microprocessor for the ultimate in RAID performance
10:25 < huebi> It's an Amiga, IIRC, hehe
10:25 < huebi> http://www.dpt.com/worldwide/support/techspecs.html?prodkey=PM3334UW&cat=%2fProduct%2fPM3334UW
10:27 < huebi> SMP: There is a plastic bag with some 2mm jumpers for the disks.
10:28 < SMP> yup
10:29 < huebi> Tagged command cueing for the Quantum Fireball SE 8.4GB: maximum 32. If it's set to higher values, you get some anoing messages.
10:30 < huebi> With the selfmade adaptors the disks run at 20 MB/s.
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10:31 < holyolli> moin
10:31 < huebi> I got read from one of them ~ 5MB/s
10:31 < huebi> hi holyolli 
10:31 < holyolli> hi huebi
10:37 < rxr> huebi: which flood do you mean?
10:41 < huebi> rxr: I sent you a message: /msg rxr flood
10:41 < huebi> rxr: There must be a new window in your irssi
10:46 < rxr> huebi: ah this ;-) I must have been blind ...
10:47 < rxr> huebi: but this new kernel dev style sucks !!
10:47 < huebi> rxr: What do you mean?
10:49 < rxr> no -pre kernels and daily snapshots - this way everyone will use another snap :-(
10:49 < rxr> and I'm waiting for the 2.4.19 or at least the next -pre ... :-( 
10:57 < rxr> cu u later ...
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10:59 < tsa> tag
10:59 < huebi> tach auch tsa 
10:59 < tsa> hi huebi
10:59 < holyolli> hi tsa
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11:02 < huebi> tsa: I read your mail about squid. I have also a problem with the response time of squid. I activated (caching-) bind and dhcpd and now squid has a response time problem.
11:02 < tsa> holyolli: lass die Leitung in Ruhe. Scheiss SMS.
11:02 < tsa> huebi: hm....which version do you use?
11:03 < huebi> 2.4stable4
11:03 < tsa> try stalbe6
11:03 < tsa> ttable even
11:03 < tsa> STABLE
11:03 < tsa> *ARGH*
11:03 < huebi> tsa: I'll do so
11:05 < huebi> I can't find Nimda in the net. But at least 60000 removal tools. Any Ideas?
11:06 < tsa> hehe.
11:06 < tsa> sure - install windoze.
11:07 < tsa> and wait...won't take too long.
11:08 < huebi> hmm. I want an infected email or something like that. I want to be able to reproduce an infected IIS. For the script, we talked about
11:09 < tsa> hm....i guess the easiest way is to setup an apache webserver and tail -f errlor_log ..
11:09 < tsa> error_log.
11:10 < huebi> lolll
11:10 < huebi> File does not exist: /opt/apache_1.3.24/htdocs/scripts/..Á../winnt/system32/cmd.exe
11:10 < tsa> see.
11:11 < huebi> tsa: But how do I get the files of Nimda?
11:12 < tsa> hm....i'm not sure....afaik nimda issues the http "GET" command, but discards the answer.
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11:54 < praenti> moin
11:55 < praenti> huebi: can you tell when a kernel make unresolved symbols and when not. after yesterday i can't do it anymore
11:56 < praenti> huebi: have the same kernel as vmlinuz and vmlinuz.new. the second runs without unresolved symbols the first brings errors
11:56 < praenti> where is the logic?
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12:22 < tsa> hi th
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12:22 < hack^uni> hi
12:22 < tsa> hi hack^uni
12:24 < huebi> tsa: http://www.suse.com/en/support/oracle/docs/lvm_whitepaper.pdf
12:24 < praenti>  hi th / hack
12:25 < huebi> praenti: I don't know about unresolved symbols. Normaly something in the kernel ist missin/not compiled in
12:25 < tsa> huebi: thx.
12:26 < praenti> huebi: i think this in the cause above not true. i know normally something is missing
12:27 < praenti> huebi: another point. have you read my patch for puzzle, yet?
12:27 < huebi> praenti: No, I haven't
12:27 < praenti> huebi: should i ci it?
12:28 < huebi> praenti: moment I read it..
12:29 < th> hi all
12:32 < huebi> praenti: ci it. It looks very good
12:32 < praenti> huebi: ok
12:32 < holyolli> cya l8ter
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12:34 < huebi> SMP: What happend? *wunder*
12:34 * SMP swears
12:35 < SMP> connection to sterling.openprojects.net timed out ..
12:37 < praenti> huebi: ci done
12:37 < huebi> praenti: Thank You!
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14:57 < hack^uni> bye
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15:06 < tsa> bbl.
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15:06 < fake> hi
15:09 < huebi> hi fake 
15:09 < fake> <-- zieht den 1.5.14 src snap
15:10 < fake> gibbet da auch ein Update script? vielleicht sogar eins das funktioniert?
15:10 < huebi> fake: I see ;-)
15:10 < fake> huebi: you feel ;)
15:10 < fake> foeatick
15:11 < huebi> fake: Noch funktioniert es nicht. th hat mal was dran gemacht. Ich werde mir das noch mal ansehen.
15:12 < fake> d.h. das was bei dir als 1.5.14 liegt ist das aktuellste?
15:12 < huebi> fake: Es sind noch einige kleinere Aenderungen hinzu gekommen. Aber nichts wesendliches.
15:13 < fake> huebi: compiliert das ding durch?
15:13 < fake> auf ix86
15:14 < fake> mich nervt 1.7 langsam. ich will nur ein aktuelles system. 
15:14 < fake> optional: das auch noch funktioniert.
15:14 < huebi> compiliert einwandfrei durch. Mit Stage 5
15:22 < fake> cool.
15:22 < huebi> :-)
15:22 < esden> hi all
15:22 * -> esden wants bed ...
15:22 < huebi> Ich will die Tage 1.5.15 deployen. Vorher brauche ich aber noch so einiges an scripten ;-)
15:23 < huebi> hi esden 
15:23 < esden> huhu huebi 
15:24 < esden> hmm ... ich glaube ich sollte nachdenken bevor ich mails schreibe ...
15:24 < huebi> esden: To sleep at the Computer is dangerous. You could loose your Quake game
15:25 * -> esden not gamer ... so /me can sleep @ computer ;-)
15:26 < esden> perhups when I fall asleep I will bang with my head on my keyboard and type the best program in my life ;-)
15:26 < huebi> esden: But don't bother about such lines in your code: ggggggggggggggggerrrrrrrrrrrrrgyhhhhhhhhytyy
15:26 < esden> who knows ;-)
15:26 < huebi> esden: That's why it dosn't comile.
15:27 < huebi> +p
15:27 * praenti is here
15:29 < esden> huebi: who knows ... perueps the code will mutate because of bit flips and evolve self contiousnes
15:29 < esden> of how it is to be spelled ..
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15:31 < xmal> are there any popular tools that can enable someone to remotely detect what distro you are running on a box?
15:32 < xmal>  i want to stop people from remotely detecting the distro i'm running on a box. It is NOT a question of security
15:32 < xmal> it is not about security thru obscurity
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15:37 < SMP> xmal: telnet
15:37 < SMP> and look at the telnet, ssh, smtp banners and the http Server: header
15:38 < xmal> telnet? i do not use telnet, telnet is not installed, therefore telnet access is disabled!
15:40 < SMP> you are misguided.
15:40 < fake> hi SMP
15:40 < xmal> misguided?
15:41 < fake> let lord SMP show you the way.
15:41 < SMP> in short, you don't know what you are talking about.
15:42 < fake> hug. SMP has spoken ;-)
15:42 < SMP> you were asking for a tool. telnet can be such a tool
15:42 < SMP> if used to look at banners and fingerprints that a host may provide.
15:43 < fake> finger maybe
15:43 < fake> rlogin
15:43 < fake> cat /etc/issue ; cat /etc/motd ;
15:43 < fake> ...
15:43 < SMP> there is no tool like 'queso' or whatever that magically determines this. it's not possible
15:43 < fake> if it is some redhat kernel you are using maybe it's even in the tcp headers.....
15:44 < fake> *g*
15:45 < SMP> fake: I'm not sure, but rlogin has no banner AFAIK
15:45 < SMP> and if you can login, well ...
15:46 < SMP> anyway, I'm going to bed, finally.
15:46 < esden> n8 SMP 
15:46 < esden> sleep well
15:47 < fake> SMP: of course, you are right.
15:47 < fake> SMP: i ment rlogin and then cat... (the line below)
15:47 < xmal>  what can I do apart from editing /etc/issue and deleting version info display  from ftp, mail,apache, etc?
15:47 < xmal> i compiled my own kernel
15:47 < fake> o yasumi nasai SMP
15:48 < fake> cd / ; grep -r "Name of your Distribution" *
15:48 < fake> ;-))
15:48 < esden> xmal: recompile the kernel so that the fingerprint is no more the matching any portscanner database ?
15:50 < xmal> what option is that one in kernel compilation?
15:51 < fake> CONFIG_I_AM_LAME="true"
15:51 < esden> fake: rofl
15:52 < esden> xmal: there is no option!
15:52 < xmal> CONFIG_I_AM_LAME="true". That is a new one!
15:52 < xmal> is it patch?
15:53 < esden> xmal: mom ...
15:53 < fake> it is a big cahoona.
15:57 * fake is 3v1l
16:01 < esden> xmal: in some minutes you can have the patch!
16:01 < xmal> thank you mate
16:09 < huebi> esden: <AOL> me too, me too </AOL>
16:10 * fake invented it ;)
16:10 * fake is the s0urc3 0ph 4ll b4k4
16:11 < huebi> fake: Of course you did. But esden writes the kernel patch.
16:12 < fake> ph34r 3sd3n's k3rn31 p4tch1n' sk1llzzzz!
16:12 < fake> *g*
16:12 < fake> <-- reads to much megatokyo(.com)
16:12 < fake> s/to/too
16:13 * huebi hopes that esden writes it for my new 2.6.0 kernel also. Before I let Linus deploy it. 
16:13 < esden> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/lame.patch <-- here is the patch!
16:13 < huebi> *clock* ehm *click*
16:14 < fake> wow! cool!
16:14 < esden> please test the patch ... and report all problems ;-)
16:14 < fake> your packed knwoledge in that few highly-compressed lines... ascci .cab file....
16:15 < fake> but... where's the installer?
16:15 < fake> no setup?
16:15 < huebi> root@imf001c3:/usr/src# patch -p0 </home/huebi/sw/lame.patch
16:16 < xmal> thanks for the patch, i'll su now, install it  and run it 
16:16 < xmal> yeah right!
16:16 < esden> ph34r m3 |<3rn3| |-|4c|<1n' s|<1llz
16:16 < fake> oh. why do you call the installer "patch" ? i think that's irritating...
16:17 < fake> yeah yeah. you should l33t less and patch more ;-)
16:17 < esden> fake: :P
16:17 < huebi> make install ....
16:17 < esden> my dsl pipe is somewhat down @ hame
16:17 < fake> <-- zm0k|<1'|\|
16:18 < esden> can not help it ...
16:18 * -> esden <- no phone ...
16:19 < esden> someone could call my mother and tell her she should fetch her mails so that the connection @ home comes up
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16:23 < esden> huebi: the line up there is wrong ...:
16:23 < esden> root@imf001c3:/usr/src/linux# patch -p1 </home/huebi/sw/lame.patch
16:23 < esden> this is the working line
16:24 < esden> i suppose at least ...
16:25 < huebi> esden: My line did work! I don't know what sort off lines you sniff, but now I'm feeling good. I'm a _real_ lamer ;-)
16:26 < fake> *lmao*
16:26 < huebi> fake: ? I don't understand. What do you mean?
16:26 < fake> esden> commit it o linus....
16:26 < huebi> :-)))
16:27 < fake> *to
16:27 < fake> and to marcello
16:27 < huebi> esden: <AOL> me too, me too </AOL>
16:29 < esden> loool
16:29 < esden> sure
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16:29 < esden> this patch should be in the kernel of rocklinux ;-)
16:29 < esden> at least ;-)
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16:31 < huebi> esden: applied...
16:31 < esden> huebi: *knuddel*  ;-)
16:32 < huebi> http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/rock-1.5/misc/linux/
16:32 < huebi> hehe
16:32 < esden> muahahahaha
16:33 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD95230DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
16:33 < huebi> 00 und in Bad und WC ist alles OK. 00 einfach fuer den A***h
16:33 < hackbard> re
16:33 < esden> hihi hackbard 
16:33 < huebi> hackbard: http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/rock-1.5/misc/linux/00-lame.patch
16:34 < hackbard> :)
16:34 * -> esden <- smokin
16:34 < huebi> hackbard: only for _real_ lamers
16:35 < hackbard> i need to patch my kernel tree fast ..
16:35 < hackbard> :)
16:35 < huebi> esden: <AOL> me too, me too </AOL>
16:37 < esden> hackbard: this patch is a must !!!
16:39 < esden> huebi: update the changelog on rocklinux.dyndns.org please
16:45 < huebi> esden: ok
16:47 < huebi> done.
16:49 < huebi> http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/ChangeLog
16:54 < esden> ahh cool thanks ...
16:54 < esden> "best patch ever submitted
16:54 < esden> "
16:54 < esden> lool
16:55 < esden> huebi: do not bother there will be more patches like this in future ;-)
16:57 < huebi> esden: You mean there won't be any more patches like this?
16:57 < praenti> WÖRGL! My DSL is down :-((
16:58 < huebi> praenti: Go fishing. Or better go hunting T-eledummies.
16:59 < fake> esden: the DSL thing should be clear anyways, right?
16:59 < fake> if your's doesn't work and preanti's doesnt work... BLAME TELEKOM!
16:59 < huebi> praenti: 0800-330 2000
17:02 < esden> huebi: no!!! there will be more patches for sure !
17:02 < esden> praenti: my dsl is also down >_<
17:02 < esden> I want to kill someone ...!!!
17:03 < fake> choose me!
17:03 < fake> *waves*
17:03 < esden> fake: forget it! >_<
17:03 < huebi> ahh kool. I'll get more and more lame. Are there any AOL-Borgs avaliable?
17:03 < esden> muahaha
17:03 < esden> huebi: "we need as search running"
17:04 < huebi> esden: ??
17:04 < fake> it's already running
17:04 < esden> fake: good ... 
17:04 < praenti> esden: kommst du heute noch ins bitz?
17:04 < fake> .......o0O0o......
17:04 < esden> huebi: Matrix? seen it ? in ov ?
17:05 < huebi> long long time ago...
17:05 < esden> praenti: no idea ... 
17:05 < esden> huebi: you have to refresh it !
17:08 * fake is away: zm0k1n' and then b3zpr3ch1n'
17:08 < praenti> borr. my telephone connection is also dead
17:09 -!- blindy|nothere is now known as blindcoder
17:09 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
17:09 < esden> praenti: huh ???
17:10 < esden> re blindcoder 
17:10 < esden> blindcoder: see scrollback ! : [16:33]
17:11 < snyke> re
17:11 < snyke> @all
17:11 < praenti> ok. driving home
17:11 < praenti> cya later
17:11 < esden> or better : [16:32]
17:12 < esden> cu praenti 
17:12 < blindcoder> esden> the patch?
17:12 < esden> yess
17:13 < esden> blindcoder: test it ;-)
17:14 < blindcoder> esden> I see that you have changed qquite a few lines ;)
17:15 < esden> *gg*
17:15 < esden> blindcoder: try to pack so much knowledge in so few lines  ;-)
17:16 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux
17:16 < blindcoder> I'm afraid it's too much knowledge for my dumb mind
17:16 < blindcoder> hi bluefire 
17:16 < huebi> Feierabend. CU later
17:17 < bluefire> hi auch
17:17 < bluefire> Tschö
17:17 < blindcoder> esden> what kernel version does it apply to?
17:18 < esden> hmm 2.4 ...
17:19 < esden> I made this patch on 2.4.18 kernel ...
17:23 * blindcoder is going to kill someone
17:39 < surprise> have fun
17:39 < surprise> ;)
17:40 < blindcoder> thanks.
17:40 * blindcoder takes his shot-gun and challenges the stupidity of mankind
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17:41 < esden> hi huebi 
17:41 < esden> aps
17:41 < esden> grrr
17:41 < esden> i mean holyolli 
17:41 < holyolli> moin
17:41 < esden> grml
17:41 < blindcoder> hi holyolli 
17:41 < holyolli> *g* hi esden
17:42 < esden> holyolli: how does the 8G disk ? ;-)
17:42 < holyolli> esden: is on the way :)
17:42 < holyolli> hi blindcoder
17:44 < esden> holyolli: !!! cool !!!
17:45 * -> esden gets hungry ... 
17:45 < holyolli> esden: www.bringdienst.de
17:45 -!- jonath[an] [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux
17:45 < jonath[an]> hi 
17:45 < jonath[an]> :)
17:46 < blindcoder> esden> I just ate a box of Instant Noodles ^·^
17:46 < esden> I wonder if software is eatable ... I suppose that it tasts like mashmellos
17:46 < esden> holyolli: no bringdienst in Munich
17:46 < blindcoder> esden> If software was edible it'll taste like chicken
17:46 < holyolli> esden: btw. did you solve the problems regardings libsafe?
17:47 < esden> uhhhm nope ... 
17:47 < holyolli> schade
17:47 < esden> do we need this at all ?
17:47 < holyolli> not sure
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17:48 < esden> holyolli: it is causing only troubre .. if you ask me ... when u use it then you are not able to compile anything ...
17:48 < esden> on intel at least ..
17:49 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux
17:49 < esden> holyolli: I found something to eat ...
17:50 < esden> http://www.bringdienst.de/m/_mn0ldta0f4.htm
17:50 < holyolli> esden: *g*
17:50 < esden> mhh ... what shoult I take ...
17:50 < holyolli> esden: erm..there's an error....
17:51 < holyolli> esden: i'm living in bielefeld...not in munich.. ;-)
17:51 < esden> who is also on linuxtag ?
17:52 < holyolli> <-- probably
17:52 < esden> who is driving after it in the direction of munich and can take me home ?
17:52 < holyolli> .oO(when was linuxtag..?)
17:53 < esden> http://www.linuxtag.org/2002/deutsch/30.html <- 06. - 09. Jun
17:54 < holyolli> esden: *hmm* i think this will work...
17:54 < holyolli> does anybody goes to dreamhack the week after? ;-)
17:54 -!- Jeremias [~jechaves@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux
17:54 < Jeremias> hello guys
17:54 < esden> holyolli: dreamhack ?
17:54 < esden> Jeremias: hi
17:55 < jonath[an]> Hola Jerez
17:55 < Jeremias> hello esden , t[an]
17:55 < Jeremias> d3mian, where are u?
17:55 < holyolli> esden: www.dreamhack.org
17:55 < jonath[an]> im ITCR currently
17:56 < Jeremias> me too guy :)
17:56 < Jeremias> excuse me , but we are offtopic, continue in private plz :)
17:56 < jonath[an]> ok
17:57 < esden> *click*
17:58 < Jeremias> umm, try irc in parana.i-itcr.ac.cr #lost-found
17:59 < esden> holyolli: " English will be available soo
17:59 < holyolli> tjo
17:59 < esden> n" >_<
17:59 < holyolli> esden: i can give you a translation ;)
17:59 < esden> holyolli: ok ...
18:01 < holyolli> esden: http://www.lanparty.de/news/?id=14089
18:01 < holyolli> esden: is a little bit easier
18:02 < Jeremias> ppl, have u stablished a ppp conection with Rock?
18:02 < holyolli> esden: dreamhack was originally a meeting for those scene people, but it got more and more to a lanparty and a meeting
18:04 < Jeremias> ill leave now
18:04 < esden> hmm ... sounds interesting ... we will see .... ;-)
18:04 < Jeremias> bye guys
18:04 < esden> cu Jeremias 
18:04 < Jeremias> :)
18:04 < Jeremias> im new using Rock, ill visit u frecuently
18:04 < Jeremias> cauz i le too much
18:04 < Jeremias> :)
18:05 < Jeremias> ohh, im sorry, My name is Jeremias, im a Jonathan friend, Costa Rica too
18:05 < Jeremias> bye
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18:05 * -> esden is no gamer ... so I do not think that I will fit in there ...
18:06 < jonath[an]> how long has passed since Mike1  was here?
18:06 < jonath[an]> last time i mean
18:08 < holyolli> esden: i'm also not a gamer...but its not a real lanparty...
18:09 < esden> I will more try to get to SANE ... 
18:09 < esden> http://www.lanparty.de/news/?id=14089
18:09 < esden> argh
18:09 < esden> I mean ... : http://www.nluug.nl/events/sane2002/index.html
18:09 < esden> now ...
18:09 < jonath[an]> bye
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18:10 < esden> ok cu all
18:10 < esden> I go home ...
18:10 < holyolli> cya esden
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18:42 < armijn> re
18:43 < jonath[away]> hi armijn 
18:53 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@p50817643.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
18:53 < ripclaw> hi all.
18:54 < armijn> hi ripclaw
18:54 < ripclaw> armijn: i`m home. can we deal with the patch stuff ?
18:54 < armijn> ripclaw: ehrm...
18:54 < holyolli> hi ripclaw :)
18:54 < ripclaw> hi olly
18:54 < armijn> ripclaw: the patches are more or less self explaining
18:55 < ripclaw> armijn yes. i`ll run cram.
18:55 < ripclaw> and get a cvs checkout
18:55 < armijn> ripclaw: the only thing I'm not sure of is the egcs64 puzzle file
18:55 < armijn> and if it clashes with intel builds
18:56 < ripclaw> armijn: do you have a compact tarball ?
18:56 < armijn> ripclaw: I can make one
18:57 < ripclaw> i`ll zip that on a disk and walk over to huebi. he has two chances:
18:57 < ripclaw> start feed me (expensive) or let me check it it.
18:58 < armijn> http://people.nl.linux.org/~armijn/rock/rock-patch.tgz
18:58 < armijn> about 20k
18:58 < ripclaw> all your patches ?
18:58 < armijn> yeah, all 7
18:58 < armijn> it's not that much
18:58 < armijn> just some evil patchwork
18:58 < armijn> very tiny changes...
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19:00 < jonath[an]> re
19:00 < jonath[an]> hi guys
19:00 < jonath[an]> :)
19:01 < ripclaw> ok. going for it.
19:02 < armijn> ripclaw: if you could start a build on huebis ultra, that would be great
19:02 < ripclaw> i`ll try. is the source up there ?
19:03 < armijn> at huebi's? dunno
19:03 < armijn> you should just grab the 1.5.14 snapshot, apply the patches, rerun puzzle and start downloading
19:04 < armijn> and then build it
19:04 < ripclaw> grml. dun recall my passwd-
19:05 -!- jonath[an] is now known as jonath[away]
19:05 < armijn> well, if huebi's there...
19:06 < ripclaw> armijn: he sleeps, he has a cold.
19:06 < armijn> ripclaw: I do know the rootpassword of his Ultra :)
19:06 < armijn> if he hasn't changed it...
19:06 < armijn> since CCC
19:07 < armijn> urgh...still tired...
19:07 < ripclaw> aaargh. i know, but my passwd for the gate.
19:07 < armijn> festival saturday (punk/hardcore), and concert yesterday (sodom/kreator/destruction)
19:07 < armijn> evil.
19:09 < armijn> ripclaw: you can use my login
19:09 < ripclaw> armijn: i wouldn`T like you sending a password anyhwere in cleartext.
19:09 < ripclaw> not even yours.
19:09 < ripclaw> expecially
19:09 < armijn> well, I can't change it on the gate anyway, so...
19:10 < armijn> ah well, I should go now, gotta train to catch
19:10 < ripclaw> c you
19:10 < armijn> will be online on wednesday
19:10 * armijn off
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19:11 < term_emu> re
19:11 < ripclaw> hi
19:18 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh
19:33 < holyolli> *gähn*
19:42 < ripclaw> sparc page updated.
19:48 < holyolli> *hm* can alsa run on non-intel-hardware?
19:51 < ripclaw> dunno. afaik someone mentioned alpha support. why ?
19:52 < holyolli> alsa doesn't compile on alpha....so it would be the easiest just to remove it when building for alpha ;)
19:53 < ripclaw> ok - that sounds ok.
19:53 < ripclaw> sparc page updated.
19:54 < holyolli> <-- must go to a vorstandssitzung...bbl
19:54 < ripclaw> sparc hardware list and patches page updated.
19:54 < ripclaw> viel spass im meeting :-)
19:54 < holyolli> jo
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20:28 < tsa> re.
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20:52 < huebi_> f*** nothing work, and I'm ill :-(
20:52 < huebi_> *works
20:54 < tsa> hm,....bad.
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20:56 < huebi_> <AOL> Ahh, ich bin drin </AOL>
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21:07 < rxr> huebi: Du bist krank!? :-( Dann wuensch ich doch gute Besserung!
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21:18 < huebi__> hi
21:20 < huebi__> I'm ill. CU tomorrow
21:20 < huebi__> At least I hope so
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21:21 < tsa> cu huebi
21:21 < tsa> hm...too late
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21:51 < tsa> http://www.karstadt.de/webapp/commerce/servlet/ProductDisplay?cache=0_2974&merchant_rn=2745&prrfnbr=1560769
21:51 < tsa> ...falls noch wer guenstig ram braucht..
22:02 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-209-107-204.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux
22:11 < term_aweh> tsa: das ueble ist vorallem, dass man beim bestellen den preis bestaetigt bekommt, das ganze also rechtsgueltig wird :)
22:11 < tsa> term_aweh: naja, nicht ganz...
22:11 < tsa> Die Annahme Ihrer Bestellung erfolgt durch Versenden der Ware.
22:11 < tsa> aus den AGB..
22:13 < term_aweh> naja, ok :)
22:14 < term_aweh> ma angenommen es staende da nicht... dann haetten die ein kleines problem
22:15 < tsa> vermutlich ja..
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22:26 < jonath[an]> hello
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22:28 < jonath[class]> cu soon
22:31 < rxr> tsa: gab es irgendwas tolles auf http://www.karstadt.de/ ?? - Der Server liefert mir keine daten :-( 
22:31 < tsa> rxr: 512mb ram fuer eur 1,88
22:31 < rxr> tsa: Oh! Bestell mir ein paar mit ;-)!!!
22:31 < tsa> das internet kauft grad da ein, die kiste ist wohl fuer heute platt..
22:32 < tsa> rxr: hehe...ich hab nix bestellt.
22:32 < tsa> die werden sowieso nicht liefern koennen..
22:35 < rxr> tsa: und auch nicht wollen ;-)
22:36 < th> da steht doch aber "sofort lieferbar" ;)
22:36 < th> ich hab hundert im warenkorb und bin auf dem weg zur kasse... das dauert aber
22:37 < tsa> hehe
22:44 < rxr> 505 bytes der seite sind hier schon agekommen - ich sehe aber noch nichts :-(
22:45 < tsa> hehe
22:45 < rxr> An error occured while loading  :-(((
22:52 < th> so... zahlung per rechnung...
22:57 < th> Vielen Dank für Ihre Bestellung!
23:02 < rxr> th: und, wieviele Rieel hast du bestellt ? ;-)
23:02 < th> das anzahl-feld war nur 2-stellig
23:03 < th> also 99
23:11 < rxr> urgh.
23:13 < tsa> hehehe
23:15 < th> ich hab auch eine bestaetigung ausgedruckt
23:15 < rxr> bei mir tut die seite noch immer nich ...
23:15 < th> bin ja mal gespannt
23:15 < rxr> th: die liefern das bestimmt nicht.
23:15 < esden> hi all
23:15 < esden> I think I should go home ...
23:16 * -> esden wants guinness ...
23:16 < th> heyja esden 
23:16 * -> esden trying to connect home ...
23:19 < tsa> hi esden
23:22 < esden> ahh I did it!!
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23:31 < kvak|uninvited> Booyaka #rocklinux
23:36 < esden> hi uni
23:36 < kvak|uninvited> esden zuckerschnauzi grüss dich.
23:36 < esden> ok nervmail an clifford weg ...
23:36 < esden> kvak|uninvited: ach zuckermausi lang nimma gesehen ... ;-)
23:37 < esden> kvak|uninvited: wie geht's ?
23:37 < esden> ok ... I think I go home now ...
23:38 < esden> cu all
23:39 < kvak|uninvited> ciao
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23:52 < holyolli> re
23:52 < tsa> tag lolli.
23:52 < holyolli> moin tesa
23:52 < tsa> wolltest du heute nachmittag nicht eigentlich @work sein?
23:52 < holyolli> tsa: ich war heute nachmittag @work...
23:53 < tsa> dain nachmittag scheint frueher zu enden als meiner..
23:53 < tsa> dein even
23:53 < holyolli> anscheinend ;)
23:53 < holyolli> <-- war schon ab 1300 wieder wech
23:53 < holyolli> scheisse. gewitter
23:53 < tsa> aehm...das ist mittags.
23:53 < tsa> hm..was is mit gewitter?
23:54 < holyolli> mittag == 1200 -> alles > 1200 == nachmittag
23:54 < tsa> jaja, is klar...und ausserdem stehst du morgens um 8 auf, ich weis..
23:54 < tsa> ;)
23:54 < holyolli> <-- ist heut um 8:30 aufgestanden
23:55 < tsa> und? ich auch...
23:55 < holyolli> nix und...du hast mit dem thema angefangen... :-P
23:55 < tsa> aha.
23:56 * tsa sucht grad nach kontext zu "gewitter"..
23:56 < holyolli> gewitter -> laut -> hell -> stromausfall -> hardwareschaden
23:56 < holyolli> so der kurzkontext
23:56 < tsa> hm....machst du das jedes gewitter?
23:56 < esden> soo noch ne mail ...
23:56 < tsa> hehe
23:57 < holyolli> tsa: nein. nicht immer - aber immer öfters
23:57 < holyolli> :(
23:57 < esden> so ein dreck ich komme einfach nicht weg hier 
23:57 < holyolli> esden: mmh?
23:57 < tsa> holyolli: ihr hattet doch schonmal den isdn-anschluss verdampft oder so..
23:57 < esden> rock hacking macht suechtig ...
23:57 < holyolli> esden: einfach fenster schliessen...
23:57 < tsa> hehe
23:57 < holyolli> tsa: jepp
23:57 < tsa> holyolli: wird auf die dauer teuer....kein blitzableiter?
23:58 < holyolli> tsa: doch - aber der bringt nicht so wirklich viel... aber ne versicherung is da effektiver ;)
23:58 < tsa> hm.....
23:58 < esden> holyolli: wenn dass so einfach waehre ... da muss ich ja meine finger von der tastatur zu der maus bewegen ... dass ist arbeit ... leider weiss ich die tastenkombination hier nicht ... normallerweise benutze ich evilwm oder enlightenment ... da weiss ich die tastenkombinationen ...
23:58 < holyolli> <-- brb...grad die alpha im keller runterfahren
23:59 < holyolli> esden: *lol!*
23:59 < esden> holyolli: lache nicht so dreckig ... ist so ;-)
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