--- Log opened Sat May 04 00:00:37 2002
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00:10 < jonath[an]> hello cliff
00:11 < huebi_> jonath[an]: I think clifford_away had just his net reconnect after 6h
00:11 < huebi_> :-)
00:11 < jonath[an]> dunno
00:11 < jonath[an]> i always forget the time zone between us
00:11 < jonath[an]> well, now im free
00:12 < huebi_> jonath[an]: I forget that ,too
00:12 < holyolli> jonath[an]: what time is it at your location?
00:12 < huebi_> 16h12?
00:12 < jonath[an]> $:20pm
00:12 < jonath[an]> sorry, 4:20pm
00:12 < jonath[an]> yes
00:12 < ringo78> With what lib you make  nice drawings ? (Wanna exp with fractals).
00:13 < jonath[an]> umm, svgalib?, in console?
00:13 < jonath[an]> ur 7 hours later than me
00:14 < ringo78> Jonath[an] Under X ?
00:14 < huebi_> jonath[an]: Now we have summer time MEST, and 8h
00:14 < jonath[an]> ahh, ic
00:15 < jonath[an]> we dunt have that time change here
00:16 < huebi_> we have it here in germany since 1988 or so...
00:16 < jonath[an]> i see
00:17 < huebi_> The reason was to save energy
00:17 < jonath[an]> i dont use watch, so i can average the current time
00:17 < jonath[an]> ergg?
00:17 < jonath[an]> scancant
00:17 < jonath[an]> argrg: s/can/cant
00:18 < jonath[an]> why save energy?
00:19 < jonath[an]> ohh, really Rock homepage is cool
00:20 < huebi_> jonath[an]: Here in the north of the earth are the day in the winter much shorter than in the summer. So a little time shift should made mor daylight avaiable at normal bussiness times.
00:21 < huebi_> in the very north of sweden where skaar comes from there is in the winter allmost no daylight. :-)
00:21 < huebi_> no sun above the horizont
00:21 < jonath[an]> ohhhh
00:21 < huebi_> for a few weeks
00:22 < jonath[an]> im happy for living at costa rica
00:22 < jonath[an]> :)
00:22 < holyolli> huebi: erm...even in stockholm it's _very_ dark in the winter...
00:22 < huebi_> :-))) Yes, I believe it. Of course
00:22 < holyolli> (round about 4h sunshine a day at maximum.. =)
00:22 < holyolli> ;-)
00:23 < jonath[an]> i dunt like cold weather
00:23 < holyolli> and it makes depressive.. X-)
00:23 < jonath[an]> :(
00:23 < holyolli> jonath[an]: hey..but it's also nice with all the snow, etc.
00:23 < jonath[an]> so, i can say im a hot boy :p
00:23 < holyolli> hehe
00:23 < jonath[an]> dunt like snow....
00:23 < holyolli> oh
00:23 < jonath[an]> ive never seen snow before.. :p
00:23 < jonath[an]> just ice cubes
00:24 < holyolli> ice cubes in your drink...? ;-)
00:24 < huebi_> jonath[an]: Do it. Try snow and skiing. That's great.
00:24 < jonath[an]> yeah
00:24 < jonath[an]> i surf
00:24 < jonath[an]> maybe skiing become interesting for me
00:24 < huebi_> jonath[an]:  surfing on frozen water ...
00:24 < holyolli> and in the _really_ north of scandinavia it almost twilight again...because of the snow, etc.
00:25 < jonath[an]> in alemania snows?
00:25 < holyolli> un poco ;-)
00:25 < jonath[an]> alemania -> germany
00:25 < holyolli> (pocito ;-)
00:25 < jonath[an]> s/pocito/poquito ;)
00:25 < holyolli> ups...sorry ;-)
00:26 < jonath[an]> dunt worry, while i can understand, no probs
00:26 < holyolli> well, in germany you only have snow in bavaria for longer time (lets say 2 month at a maximum)
00:26 < holyolli> and in the mountains
00:26 < jonath[an]> "The Important Thing Is Stablish Communication" Demian J, 1998
00:27 < jonath[an]> ic
00:27 < huebi_> and in the alps, the huge mountains in Austria there are up to 3m of snow
00:28 < jonath[an]> there is a place in Costa Rica, which is the highest point in the country, there is cold, and sometimes ppl says that snows
00:28 < holyolli> erm...but "cold" == 15 degrees...?
00:28 < jonath[an]> but ive never been there
00:28 < holyolli> ;)
00:28 < jonath[an]> hehe, well, such as 10 C
00:28 < holyolli> *fg*
00:29 < jonath[an]> what about there?
00:29 < holyolli> uhm...actually.. 10 degress...? ;)
00:29 < holyolli> (here in germany)
00:29 < holyolli> and _bad_ weather
00:30 < jonath[an]> actually??
00:30 < holyolli> yes
00:30 < jonath[an]> da u mean currently?
00:30 < holyolli> ack.
00:30 < jonath[an]> now, i think it's 20 C
00:30 < jonath[an]> sorry, 30C
00:31 < holyolli> hrmpf
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00:31 < holyolli> http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reurmett.html <-- temperature in europe
00:31 < Be-El> hi ppl
00:31 < holyolli> moin bl
00:31 < huebi_> hi Be-El 
00:31 < jonath[an]> hello Be-El 
00:33 < jonath[an]> cool page holyolli 
00:34 < jonath[an]> ughh, deutschland is really cold !
00:34 < jonath[an]> i couldnt live there
00:35 < holyolli> ..and about the snowtopic...: http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reursnow.html 
00:35 < holyolli> ;-)
00:35 < holyolli> its all snow visible from sattelites
00:35 < holyolli> (in europe)
00:36 < jonath[an]> cool
00:37 < jonath[an]> what happen with ircstats page?
00:37 < jonath[an]> is it being updates?
00:37 < jonath[an]> updates/updated
00:47 < holyolli> ARGS!
00:47 < holyolli> .oO(if i try to explain this, everybody would think i'm drunk!)
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00:48 < huebi_> holyolli: another beer ?
00:48 < huebi_> :-)))
00:48 < holyolli> nope - i think this will not fix my problem
00:48 < holyolli> huebi: know these _very_ _very_ small spiders?
00:48 < huebi_> holyolli: to drink from two bottles in the same time?
00:49 < huebi_> holyolli: yes
00:50 < holyolli> huebi: nope...i'm using a lc-display as my monitor (a normal 17" one) and one of those _ultra_ small spiders is running between the lcd backlight and my display...and it looks as if there's a running broken pixel..
00:50 < holyolli> and it's really _no_ joke
00:50 < holyolli> .oO(i should not squash it, otherwise i really have a "broken" pixel...)
00:51 < holyolli> it's now running between my homedir-icon and my cdrom-shortcut =)
00:51 < huebi_> not so easy to solve. Spiders dont like gasoline vapors...
00:52 < jonath[an]> well, im not going to spend time, ill play with Rock
00:52 < jonath[an]> cu guys
00:52 < huebi_> cu jonath[an] 
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01:05 < term_aweh> cya
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01:09 < kvak|uninvited> moin
01:09 < holyolli> hi
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01:09 < jonath[an]> i had to come back
01:09 < jonath[an]> re
01:10 < huebi_> jonath[an]: :-)
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01:36 < holyolli> cya!
01:36 < holyolli> <-- sleeping
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01:50 < esden> hi all
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01:51 < Mike1> re
01:53 < esden> re Mike1 
01:54 < Mike1> hi esden 
01:54 < huebi_> good night
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01:56 < esden> n8 huebi_ 
01:57 < esden> I have to improve my homepage ...
01:57 < esden> new version of dietlibc
01:57 < Mike1> esden how come/
01:57 < esden> ...
01:58 < esden> I have to put there my curriculum vitae
01:58 < esden> and what I am working on at the momemt
01:58 < Mike1> oh ic
01:58 < esden> perhups I get like this a good work ... ? who knows ?
01:59 < Mike1> yes could be
01:59 < esden> I want to get money for working on free software ... 
01:59 < esden> that is really not easy
01:59 < Mike1> i want to get money for free :)
02:00 < esden> or like this ... but that is too inimaginable to become true ...
02:01 < Mike1> hehe yeah
02:02 < esden> so I want to do stuff I like and get money for this ...
02:03 < Mike1> become a Linux/Unix consultant
02:03 < esden> me ? ... lol
02:03 < Mike1> why not?
02:03 < esden> my knewlidge and skills are much to small ... I have to learn lot more
02:04 < Mike1> i work for an ISP taking care of linux/unix systems improving security, and having fun around
02:04 < Mike1> they pay me and i just have fun all day :)
02:04 < esden> thet is ok
02:05 < esden> But first I have to finish my bachelor ... :-(
02:06 < Mike1> hehe dont worry keep working hard and you will get a great job in a close future. :-)
02:07 < esden> I am doing it all the time ... but it is hard to shorten the time I would like to invest in stuff that makes fun like rock for example
02:09 < Mike1> yes the same thing happens to me, sometimes i am busy as hell but some other times i have some free time to ROCK
02:11 < jonath[an]> yo esden 
02:11 < jonath[an]> wie geht es dir?
02:11 < esden> jonath[an]: gut danke und dir ? 
02:12 < esden> jonath[an]: good thanks and you ?
02:12 < Mike1> i have to go
02:12 < esden> cu Mike1 
02:12 < Mike1> got a meeting with my bride
02:12 < Mike1> bye esden 
02:12 < esden> have fun ;-)
02:12 < jonath[an]> danke, gut
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02:13 < jonath[an]> i need to imporve my german language
02:13 < jonath[an]> improve
02:13 < esden> hehe ;-)
02:14 < jonath[an]> well, but first the enligh
02:14 < jonath[an]> ill be playing qiake
02:15 < jonath[an]> quake
02:15 < jonath[an]> :)
02:15 < esden> your englich will get better when the time goes by ... I need to improve mine too
02:22 < esden>  me bed go (yoda style ?)
02:44 < jonath[an]> hehe
02:44 < jonath[an]> ur english is almost perfect esden
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03:37 < jonath[an]> hi huebi, SMP 
03:37 < jonath[an]> clifford_away 
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03:46 < rxr> I'm back ... 
03:47 < jonath[an]> hello rene
03:55 < rxr> hi jonath[an] 
04:26 < hack^afk> bye
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07:57 < huebi_> moin
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09:36 < blindcoder> g'morning everyone
09:37 < blindcoder> seems I have to bother the debain maintainer of kterm...
09:38 < blindcoder> or does anyone knw where to get the defines for ICRNL IXON OPOST ONLCR and similar?
09:46 < blindcoder> ah found what seems to be the error...
09:57 < clifford_away> blindcoder: termios.h (btw)
09:57 -!- clifford_away is now known as clifford
09:57 < blindcoder> morning clifford
09:57 < clifford> hi.
09:58 < blindcoder> thanks, I found it. but I also found out that kterm doesn't include this file... at least not if SYSV or SVR3 is defined...
09:59 < blindcoder> SVR4, not SVR3
10:00 < clifford> funny - termios.h is SVR4 standard ...
10:01 < blindcoder> yukai, there was a -DUSE_TERMIOS missing... (at least I get rid of almost all error messages this way ;)
10:03 < blindcoder> HA! found it... brb
10:04 < blindcoder> hehe I like google.com/linux
10:05 < blindcoder> searching for VDSUSP and kterm brought a 3 line patch (and only this ;) that fixes the problem ;)
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10:07 < blindcoder> hi ch_wschli 
10:07 < blindcoder> Now I know why I learn Hiragana... there are way too much japanese pages on the net >_<
10:09 < clifford> blindcoder: I did not know google.com/linux .. that's kewl!
10:10 < blindcoder> very helpful. you don't have to type "linux" in the search-field ;)
10:10 < clifford> (just added it to the rocklinux.net metasearch engine)
10:10 < blindcoder> *lol*
10:11 < blindcoder> err... one question: in 1.5: .patch files are autmatically applied, aren't they? if they are in the base-config/$pkg/ directory?
10:12 < clifford> blindcoder: yes. They are automatically added to the $patchfiles variable
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10:12 < blindcoder> thanks. then kterm should build now...
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10:37 < blindcoder> whooo! installing xjdic is handwork...
10:38 < huebi__> moin
10:40 < blindcoder> moin huebi__
10:42 < huebi__> hi blindcoder. I tested  pz-config.sh. Very good work. 
10:42 < blindcoder> thank you ;)
10:43 < blindcoder> But I think I'll rewrite it as a C-Program
10:43 < blindcoder> I'm not happy with the User Interface
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11:03 < huebi__> hi hackbard 
11:03 < hackbard> moin huebi
11:03 < hackbard> hi all
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11:07 < term_emu> morgen
11:08 < huebi__> hi term_emu 
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11:14 < clifford> huebi__: ich hab' einen anschlag auf dich!
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11:14 < huebi__> clifford: Ich habe kein Hochhaus ;-)
11:16 < clifford> Ich hab' dich fuer einen artikel eingetailt:
11:16 < clifford> http://www.rocklinux.org/rolling/devel/index.html
11:17 < clifford> ( News from the 1.5 - 1.6 development )
11:18 < huebi__> ok
11:18 < clifford> huebi: soll nicht all zu lang sein (wir beide teilen uns eine seite fuer die devel news.
11:19 < clifford> plain html file (ohne header - so das ich's unveraendert uebernehmen kann)
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11:19 < holyolli> moin
11:19 < huebi__> jo, dann kann ich fuer die genauen details auf das Changelog verweisen.
11:19 < huebi__> moin holyolli 
11:19 < clifford> bis wann kann ich mit einer ersten version rechnen?
11:21 < holyolli> moin huebi
11:21 < holyolli> hi clifford
11:21 < clifford> hi olli.
11:23 < huebi__> bis morgen. Ich werde mir als naechstes mal die alpha patches von holyolli ansehen, die Dateiberechtigungen im cvs korrigieren, installdisks cvs sicher machen, meine Homepage auf vordermann bringen und dann mein deployscript weitermachen.
11:23 < clifford> huebi: alles klar.
11:23 < clifford> huebi: btw - warum bist du 2x online?
11:24 < clifford> (das verwirrt meine name tab-completion naemlich ziemlich)
11:24 < holyolli> *g*
11:24 < holyolli> clifford: gespaltene persöhnlichkeit ;-)
11:25 < holyolli> nicht wahr, huebi und huebi__?
11:26 < huebi__> * wo ist eigendlich mein 2. ich, huebi_ geblieben? ... :-)
11:28 < huebi__> clifford: das eine ist fuer den Onlinerekord und das andere huebi__ ist weil irgend etwas mit der terminal emulation nich mehr funktioniert.
11:30 < huebi__> Wenn ich pine oder screen aufrufe, bekomme ich nur 2-3 Zeilen Angezeigt und die session reagiert nicht mehr.
11:31 < clifford> huebi__: dann solltest du das nicht tun..  :-)
11:39 < huebi__> clifford: huebi@stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de <- diese mail adresse ist besser
11:46 < clifford> huebi: mailaddr geaendert.
11:47 < clifford> Wow: 24M rock-src-1.7.0-DEV-200205032018
11:47 < huebi> danke. Hier sind's 21MB
11:47 * clifford thought 15 years ago that I could never use up all that memory in my C-64 ..
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12:08 < hackbard> ist xscreensaver eins der 7 broken packags aus x11?
12:08 < clifford> hackbard: ja,
12:09 * SMP didums
12:09 < hackbard> okay, ich muss mal im Config das abort when package faisl wegmachen
12:09 < SMP> amazing how much better the screen looks once you clean it ;-]
12:11 < huebi> hi SMP. Did you have time for the raid controller?
12:11 < clifford> SMP: good idea!
12:11 * clifford cleans his screen ..
12:11 < SMP> huebi: no :-| this weekend ..
12:12 < SMP> it's currently spread over a cow-orker's desk ;-O
12:12 < huebi> :-) 
12:12 < holyolli> .oO(cow...cowsay? ;-)
12:12 < holyolli> is esden here? ;)
12:13 < SMP> instant LART!
12:13 < SMP> ;>
12:13 < huebi> muH!
12:13 < clifford> Woooow! All this colors! (very impressive! :-)
12:14 < huebi> clifford: what do you think about the _new_ www.rocklinux.org now ?
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12:14 * huebi is installing a Nimda trap ;-)
12:14 < holyolli> huebi: have you made it with a rewrite-rule?
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12:15 < SMP> *eg* that reminds me ...
12:15 < blindcoder> re
12:15 < huebi> holyolli: No, I thought about that, but I think I need to do it with IPNAT
12:15 < holyolli> mh? how that?
12:16 < SMP> RedirectMatch permanent .*/favicon\.ico$ http://www.microsoft.com/please/fix/your/stupid/browser/so/it/will/stop/filling/up/our/error/logs/with/garbage/thanks/signed/a/web/developer/
12:16 < SMP> ;>
12:17 < SMP> 'Nimda trap' just reminded me of ..
12:17 < huebi> ipnat rocklinux.dyndns.org:80 -> 192.168.100.2:80
12:17 < clifford> huebi: it's even better (www.rocklinux.org). I see that the boxes are blue! :-)
12:18 < huebi> clifford: *ROFL*
12:19 * SMP imagining Clifford having a 'Matrix' style view of the webpage
12:20 < clifford> SMP: I always view webpages in source! (on a green/black display)
12:20 < SMP> with telnet!
12:20 < SMP> ;)
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13:03 < rxr> moin
13:04 < holyolli> hi hackbard
13:04 < holyolli> moin rxr
13:04 < hackbard> moin moin
13:14 < huebi> oh stromausfall...
13:15 < holyolli> hm
13:15 < holyolli> <-- winkt huebi schonmal, wenn gleich der akku von der usv platt ist ;-)
13:17 < huebi> runtime remaining 47 min
13:17 < huebi> so, Sicherung wieder drin.
13:21 < huebi> IE ist ja echter Schrott. Der Kann nicht mal die Putty.echse per http downloaden ohne sie zu zerstoeren.
13:25 < huebi> *staun* w2k ist ja deutlich schneller mit scp als NT. so ca 2x
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15:02 < holyolli> re
15:03 < holyolli> just a question...does anybody have some experiences with the via kt133-chipset?
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15:28 * clifford just build a few packages on a 2-node cluster....
15:31 < esden> hi all
15:32 < esden> clifford: so the dependancy works ?
15:32 < clifford> esden: for stages > 2: sure.
15:33 < clifford> esden: but that's no the cool thing ..
15:33 * clifford wrote a small job scheduler in shell.
15:33 < esden> ahh ... ok ... I thought that rock is now clusterable ...
15:33 < clifford> esden: It is.
15:34 < esden> ehhmm ...
15:34 < esden> huh ?
15:41 < esden> you mean -j ... or real parallel packet building ?
15:42 < clifford> esden: real cluster building. I'm currently building ROCK Linux on two machines.
15:45 < hackbard> cool, will it be included in the next snap?
15:45 < clifford> hackbard: yes.
15:46 < esden> ahh ok ... what do you use to distribute the jobs on the machines ? your own stuff or mosix or pvm ?
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16:31 < esden> re clifford 
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16:39 < clifford> Cluster screenshot: http://www.rocklinux.org/screenshots.html
16:40 < bluefire> Hoi
16:41 < SMP> clifford: s,createing,creating,g
16:46 < clifford> SMP: will fix when I have enouight bandwith for an ssh connection.
16:46 < SMP> no hurry ;)
16:47 < clifford> I'm currently uploading the snap and have only ISDN ..  :-(
16:57 < clifford> SMP: where di you find "createing" ?
16:57 < clifford> s/di/did/
16:58 < esden> clifford: on the cluster screeshot 
16:59 < clifford> esden: ON the screenshot? Ugh!
16:59 < esden> yepp
17:01 < clifford> I've now fixed it in the script. The output of the script will be improved anyways and I will make a new screenshot then ..
17:02 < clifford> ok. I have to go now.
17:03 < clifford> I've sent a mail with a short description how to build on a cluster. Maybe someone can try it and give me feedback.
17:04 < esden> clifford: ok thanks ... I will try it
17:15 < blindcoder> hi esden 
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17:18 < esden> hi blindy|away 
18:12 < huebi> mre
18:12 < huebi> re
18:13 < huebi> hmmm. cluster. goood! I must test it
18:17 < SMP> ahh huebi
18:20 < SMP> huebi: I'd like to get the RAID set up soon. please log off soon
18:20 < SMP> huebi: what kernel driver do I need, again?
18:21 < huebi> hi SMP. I have a look. I have to reboot here
18:25 < SMP> oh wait..
18:25 < SMP> I'll fish it out of my irclogs
18:25 < huebi> SMP: The first under SCSI low level drivers in menuconfig. eata.o
18:26 < huebi> there are thre EATA drivers. The 1st is the right one.
18:27 < SMP> oh. ok, thanks
18:27 < SMP> I need a couple of minutes to build the kernel and find a DOS bootdisk ...
18:28 < huebi> SMP: You have a DOS boot disk in my ~
18:28 < huebi> SMP: It's a complete boot disk image for the controller setup.
18:28 < SMP> it's not bootable
18:28 < huebi> hmm
18:29 < SMP> there's stuff on it, but it doesn't boot
18:29 < SMP> even though it should. there's config.sys and autoexec.bat ..
18:29 < huebi> SMP: I test it here again. One moment.
18:29 < huebi> booting
18:31 < huebi> ok here it boots. 
18:31 < huebi> I make a new image
18:31 < SMP> hmmm
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18:33 < huebi> dd if=/dev/floppy/0 of=DPT_floppy.img
18:35 < huebi> no errors
18:36 < huebi> copies
18:37 < huebi> SMP: <AOL> Sie haben Post! </AOL>
18:39 < SMP> ta
18:41 < SMP> $ md5sum DPT*
18:41 < SMP> 8cb1cf6fc54f0c051f6ccd92a8288b21  DPT-PM3334UW_exec_DPTMGR.COM.img
18:41 < SMP> 8cb1cf6fc54f0c051f6ccd92a8288b21  DPT_floppy.img
18:42 < SMP> doesn't make too much sense to try ;>
18:42 < huebi> hmm
18:42 < SMP> I'll get another bootdisk. no prob
18:43 < huebi> It' DOS 6.22 in german. I thin
18:43 < SMP> yeah, I got the usual error in German ;-O
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18:52 < SMP> irssi choked or you? ;)
18:52 < huebi> irssi
18:53 * SMP wonders whether try to install my TokenRing adaptor and linux-sna patches on this occasion
18:54 < SMP> huebi: wanna do to 3270 or 5250 to an AIX over SNA/TR from world? ;)
18:54 < SMP> s,to,some,
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18:54 < huebi_> hmm
18:54 < SMP> huh
18:54 < huebi_> reproducable erreo
18:54 < SMP> how?
18:55 < huebi_> I typed: M$ <space> <ctrl-d> <ctrl-o> <ctrl-s>
18:55 < huebi_> and the keyboard feezes
18:56 < huebi_> the control-DOS bug :-)
18:57 < SMP> well then don't do that ;>
18:58 < huebi_> yes i don't make any typos again ;>
18:59 < SMP> huebi: still got my last question about TokenRing?
18:59 < SMP> huebi: type /msg NickServ ghost huebi <password>
18:59 < SMP> ;)
18:59 < huebi_> no
19:00 < SMP> 18:53|  * SMP wonders whether try to install my TokenRing adaptor and linux-sna patches on this occasion
19:00 < SMP> 18:54| < SMP> huebi: wanna do some 3270 or 5250 to an AIX over SNA/TR from world? ;)
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19:01 < huebi_> SMP: why should I do so?
19:02 -!- huebi_ is now known as huebi
19:03 < SMP> just for the heck of it?
19:03 < SMP> because it's great fun?
19:04 < huebi> SMP: That's _the_ good reason :-)))
19:04 < huebi> SMP: Yes I want
19:05 < SMP> someday even my AS/400 will pop up on the Net *sigh*
19:06 < huebi> SMP: That will be great. I had a short instruction on AS400. They are like dinosaurs
19:08 < SMP> but world will have native IP multicast now (not too useful there) and native IPv6 soon
19:13 < SMP> hmm. not too many rejects for the linux-sna patch. I'll hack it
19:14 < huebi> ok. do it.
19:15 < huebi> bug fix for /etc/conf/network
19:15 < huebi> follows soon
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19:20 < netcrow> moin
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19:51 < freed> hi @ll
19:52 < rxr> hi freed 
19:53 < freed> hi
19:53 < rxr> freed: I'm back in a few minutes ... hope you're still there then ...
19:53 < freed> okay
19:53 < huebi> SMP: hmm. If I make a: ps -axf on world I get 2 lines and one CR. Perhaps the new version (1.3.1) of termcap does not work. ;(
19:58 < rxr> freed: ok back ;-)
20:12 < SMP> huebi: huh
20:12 < SMP> huebi: works for me
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20:27 < huebi> SMP: Do you also have 1.3.1 or the old 1.3 on your client?
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20:53 < SMP> huebi: I don't know what you are talking about. irssi uses terminfo and cursi
20:53 < SMP> curses, not termcap
20:54 < SMP> and world as 1.3 installed, obviously
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21:18 < cap> hi rockers
21:24 < hackbard> yo cap
21:25 < cap> ist dRock 1.6 schon raus?
21:28 < hackbard> not quite sure, but there is a drock target in 1.7
21:31 < cap> so.. dRock & rock will reunite with 1.7 into only one distro?
21:33 < hackbard> dunno if rene still keeps maintainig a seperated drock after it is succesfully merged into 1.7 - just ask him -> rxr
21:34 < hackbard> he told me that his development drock trees already have some 1.7 features, so there is a big chance
21:37 < cap> the hp says The main work was done in the ROCK Linux 1.7 tree where we reunite all the work, to share it in the future.
21:37 < cap> would be great if i don't have to choose which one to take ;>
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21:41 < rxr> er hi!
21:41 < rxr> dRock 1.6.0 is not yet out
21:41 < rxr> and there will only be a ROCK tree in some moth ;-)
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21:42 < rxr> But I maintain the Desktop Target and provide supported prebiuld binaries.
21:42 < cap> hm ok
21:42 < rxr> cap: You can take dRock ;-)
21:44 < rxr> cap: 1.6.0 will be out after the final show-stopper bug-fixing at the end of next week
21:44 < rxr> I currently rsync the -rc2 on a bigger server - and do a freshmeat announcement after this ...
21:45 < cap> c00l
21:53 < cap> rxr: how does dRock get along with the 2.2.x glibc if compiled from scratch ?
21:54 < rxr> cap: what do you mean?
21:54 < cap> can i compile dRock on a 2.2.x glibc system?
21:55 < rxr> yes, the upcomming 1.6.0
21:55 < rxr> the 1.6.0 is also based on the lgibc-2.2.5
21:56 < rxr> 1.6.x can be compiled on both glibc-2.1.x and glibc-2.2.x systems. 
21:57 < cap> fine, i'll wait a bit till 1.6 is out
21:57 < cap> thx and .. bye ;-)
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21:57 < rxr> bye
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22:23 < huebi> re
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23:30 < rxr> huebi: das bild auf der seite:
23:30 < rxr> http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo/
23:30 < rxr> ganz unten ist ja cook!
23:30 < rxr> s/cook/cool/
23:30 < huebi> hehe
23:32 < huebi> nicht so gut fuer's Image
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23:33 < tomik> hello 
23:33 < huebi> hi tomik
23:34 < rxr> huebi: welches image? von mondo?
23:35 < huebi> hehe. Nee, vom cowboy aus Texas
23:35 < rxr> wieso Image - hat er eins ???
23:37 < rxr> das image seiner vormunde vielleicht ... ;-)
23:37 < huebi> Ja, das eines dummen Cowboys aus Texas
23:38 < rxr> nana jetzt vergleich aber G.W.B. mit dem Cowboy. Der arme cowboy ..
23:38 < huebi> Na ja. Wir haben wenigstens ein demokratisch gewaehltes Staatsoberhaupt.
23:39 < huebi> Ok. ich nehme alles ueber Cowboys zuruck.
23:42 < tomik> pls i need help with routing
23:43 < huebi> Hmm, welche Regierungform hat eine Demokratie ohne demokratisch gewaehltem Fuehrer tatsaechlich?
23:43 < huebi> tomik: Yes.
23:43 < huebi> What do you want to know
23:43 < tomik> i have two eth interface in one comp and two links in that devices 
23:44 < tomik> interfaces
23:44 < tomik> err
23:45 < huebi> tomik: and you have two different networks? And want to route between them?
23:45 < tomik> i want this ifaces in the same network 172.16.1.0/24 
23:47 < huebi> tomik: And what is the problem?
23:48 < tomik> huebi: eth0 172.16.1.101 (-> link to hub, another comp with 172.16.1.1) eth1 172.16.1.100 (-> link to hub, another comp with 172.16.1.155) (all netmask 255.255.255.0) 
23:55 < huebi> tomik: Yes, eth0=.101 and eth1=.100. Correct. Ok, but where is your problem?
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23:55 < huebi> hi martin_ 
23:55 < martin_> ho huebi
23:55 < martin_> ne, hi
23:56 < tomik> maybe in route 172.16.1.0/24 via device eth0 
23:57 < huebi> tomik: your default gw is on eth0. Then all traffik goes over eth0
23:59 < tomik> default routes are 172.16.1.0/24 via eth0 and 172.16.1.0/24 via eth1 
23:59 < tomik> (automatically set)
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