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--- Log opened Thu May 09 00:00:06 2002 --- Day changed Thu May 08 2002 00:06 < rxr> s.o. here? 00:06 < th> bis dann... SO is eingetroffen ;-) 00:06 -!- th [th@delta.boerde.de] has left #rocklinux () 00:08 < tsa> ...und wech 00:08 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BF32.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:22 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M102P002.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:24 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M117P027.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 00:51 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:51 < holyolli> re 00:51 < rxr> hi 00:51 < holyolli> moin rxr 00:52 < rxr> Moin ;-) 00:53 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50803147.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:53 < chrisime> esden: jo! 00:57 < esden> hi chrisime 00:57 < esden> and re hi all others 00:57 < holyolli> hi esden 00:58 < snyke> hi esden 00:58 < snyke> are you here? 00:59 < chrisime> esden: heh, hab mal die site gecheckt 01:00 < esden> chrisime: und ? 01:00 < chrisime> cool 01:01 -!- drako500dB [drako500dB@196.40.64.147] has joined #rocklinux 01:01 < drako500dB> hi 01:03 -!- drako500dB [drako500dB@196.40.64.147] has left #rocklinux () 01:05 < esden> chrisime: that is good ... that you like it ;-) 01:08 < snyke> esden: can you try to ssh to eros plz? 01:08 < snyke> because i always get an error 01:10 < esden> snyke: I do not have sholl on eros afaik 01:16 < holyolli> huebi? 01:20 < rxr> holyolli: is in his two metre ... 01:21 < rxr> which stage should be chrooted in 1.7 ?? > 2 ??? 01:21 -!- trev- [~trev@24.87.16.31] has joined #rocklinux 01:21 < holyolli> rxr: ah....i just wanted to say that his cvs is probably down (or again a layer-8-problem at my side ;-) 01:22 * rxr tracking 1.7 wiredness ... 01:26 -!- trev- [~trev@24.87.16.31] has quit () 01:29 * rxr haare-rauf 01:30 < holyolli> ./dcc send rxr shampoo ;) 01:31 < rxr> ./dcc mir lieber patches fuer 1.7 ... 01:31 < holyolli> hehe 01:31 < holyolli> <-- macht erst 1.5 zuende ;) 01:31 < rxr> <-- macht auch dRock ... 01:31 < rxr> ;-) 01:32 < holyolli> <-- hat ne freundin ;-Ü 01:32 < rxr> warum aendert Cliff immer so viel :-( u 01:32 < holyolli> ;-P even 01:32 < rxr> holyolli: ja das ist cool 01:32 < holyolli> rxr: naja...es bleibt weniger zeit fürn rechner ;) 01:33 < rxr> die koentest du mal ./dcc'en ... 01:33 < rxr> *g* 01:33 < holyolli> rxr: die kann zwar linux und so, wird dir aber wohl nicht bei drock helfen 01:33 < rxr> <-- haeete auch gerne weniger zeit ;-) 01:33 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9522C3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:33 < holyolli> hehe /* no comment */ 01:34 < rxr> wieso dRock helfen ??? ;> 01:34 < holyolli> hrhr 01:34 < rxr> zum ersten mal waere CVS von Cliffs gehacke doch cool 01:34 * rxr downloading an older snap ;-) 01:34 < holyolli> hehe 01:35 < rxr> NNNNNNEEEEEEEEIIIIIIINNNNNNNN 01:36 < rxr> Hat Cliff alle vor dem May 6 14:57 2072k 01:36 < rxr> geloescht ??????????????? 01:36 < rxr> Ich brauch nen aelteren !!!!!! 01:36 < rxr> gruebel gruebel 01:36 < holyolli> *hmm* save often, save early, make backups ;-) 01:37 < rxr> ich downloade die snaps nie ... 01:37 < rxr> bei imr rennt immer ./scripts/Update-Src ... 01:38 < holyolli> ah 01:38 < holyolli> whatever.../me muss nu schlafen gehn 01:38 < rxr> (in nem seperatem tree denn ich dann mit nem Sync tool merge ...) 01:38 < holyolli> n8ti 01:38 < rxr> cu 01:38 < holyolli> viel erfolg noch :) 01:38 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("Connection reset by telekom") 02:00 -!- l_9_l [~jarod@217.17.228.83] has joined #rocklinux 02:14 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50803147.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 03:07 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@pD9023115.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:07 < rxr> hi 03:07 < aszlig> hi 03:11 < rxr> i'm off now - n8 03:34 -!- l_9_l [~jarod@217.17.228.83] has quit ("BitchX-1.0c18 -- just do it.") 04:24 -!- l_9_l [~jarod@217.17.228.83] has joined #rocklinux 04:33 -!- l_9_l [~jarod@217.17.228.83] has quit ("BitchX-1.0c18 -- just do it.") 04:40 < hackbard> bye 04:41 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0ABAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zzZ") 05:49 -!- d3m|away is now known as d3mian 05:49 < d3mian> hola 05:49 < d3mian> :) 05:54 < d3mian> esden: still here? 05:56 -!- l_9_l [~root@217.17.228.83] has joined #rocklinux 05:57 < d3mian> hi l_9_l 05:57 < d3mian> jarod 05:57 < l_9_l> hi.. 05:58 < l_9_l> wondering coz loggin as a root.. :) ,i've just finished installing ROCK 05:58 < d3mian> excelent 05:58 < d3mian> mom 05:59 < l_9_l> i thought that it will be a nightmare..in contrast--has installed smoothly without any problem at all.. 06:00 < l_9_l> d3mian:r u a developer? 06:01 -!- l_9_l [~root@217.17.228.83] has quit ("[BX] Man and mouse alike, both end up in pussy") 06:03 -!- l_9_l [~jarod@217.17.228.83] has joined #rocklinux 06:04 < d3mian> it sounds fibe l_9_l 06:04 < d3mian> s/fibe/fine 06:05 < d3mian> no, im not 06:05 < d3mian> what release did u install? 06:08 < l_9_l> 1.4 06:08 < d3mian> ahh, ic 06:09 < d3mian> it is cool 06:09 < l_9_l> nothing at all 06:10 < l_9_l> just the net-script didn't work..if configured it manually.. 06:12 < d3mian> why dont? 06:12 < d3mian> what message or prob did u get? 06:13 < l_9_l> it didn't modpobes the module of my nic and the setting of the network..though i've done them during the installation.. 06:15 < d3mian> umm 06:15 < d3mian> u should insmod ur nic by hand 06:16 < d3mian> but the net config should work, obviously u cant dispose of the net if the right modules has not been loaded 06:16 < l_9_l> i did..but at least i dont have to configure the settings of the network again..coz i'd already configured them during the setup 06:16 < l_9_l> but it works now.. :) i'm on rock for the first time! :) 06:16 < d3mian> ur right, if the script run fine 06:17 < d3mian> that's great :) 06:17 < d3mian> im glad to hear that 06:18 < l_9_l> i will invite my friends to use it.. 06:19 < l_9_l> btw..is there any counter of the rock's users? 06:19 < l_9_l> * for the * 06:21 < l_9_l> nice to meet u d3mian..c u later.. 06:27 < d3mian> hehe 06:27 < d3mian> cool 06:28 < d3mian> there is no a counter, i guess 06:28 < d3mian> cu 06:46 -!- d3mian [~jonvargas@208.165.55.137] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 06:46 -!- d3mian [~jonvargas@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 07:06 < d3mian> arrgg, irc-openproject is not so gut as i though once 07:25 -!- snyke_ [~snyke@pD9502A77.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:27 < d3mian> hi snyke 07:38 < huebi> good morning 07:41 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:42 < d3mian> morning huebi 08:18 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M117P027.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:20 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M092P005.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 09:09 -!- huebi_ [~huebi@pD9E1CCCC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:18 < d3mian> welcome back huebner 09:19 * d3mian enjoys programming with cool music :) 09:27 -!- huebi [~huebi@pD9E1C456.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:35 -!- anders_ [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 09:35 < anders_> morning ppl 09:35 < d3mian> good morning anders_ 09:36 < anders_> d3mian: :) 09:53 < anders_> hmmmm... 09:54 < anders_> I decided to do something yesterday.. To pull in all the 'unknown' signatures GPG keys to my keyfiles.. 09:55 < anders_> It takes a loooooong time to list all the signatures of all the key-files.. 09:55 < anders_> and my keyring is only about 2MB.. 09:57 < d3mian> hehe 10:00 < anders_> gpg is chewing a fair bit of CPU as well, just listing the sigs.. 10:02 < anders_> so far, about 5000 unknown signatures... 10:02 * anders_ really need a bigger disk.. 10:05 < d3mian> and i need one to build rock 10:06 < anders_> d3mian: been there, had that problem.. 10:06 < anders_> :) 10:07 < anders_> I got hold of a 20GB IBM IDE disk, it was big enough to hold the stuff needed.. That box is currently in Sweden though.. I have to move it back here to UK soon.. 10:09 < blindcoder> good morning everyone *yawns* 10:10 < d3mian> good murning blindcoder 10:10 < d3mian> well, my hd just has 10Gb, and 2 of them are shared with uni 10:11 < anders_> re blindcoder 10:11 < anders_> d3mian: you should be able to get hold of 60GB IDE disks reasonably cheap now.. 10:11 < anders_> lemme check what they are here in UK.. 10:12 < d3mian> ahh, u are from UK! 10:12 < d3mian> im from costa rica 10:13 < anders_> Aahh.. :) 10:13 < d3mian> nowadays, there is a bit of difference in the price of 30 and 60 gbytes 10:14 < anders_> In UK, a 60GB UDMA133 Maxtor is 103 UKP, and a Samsung 60GB UDMA100 is 80 UKP 10:14 < d3mian> ohh, ic 10:14 < anders_> d3mian: it is starting to be difficult finding disks smaller than 40GB here.. 10:15 < d3mian> well, here still there are 20Gb HDs 10:16 < d3mian> brb -> delivering a lot of yellow liquid 10:16 < anders_> A 40GB Western Digital UDMA100 is 65 UKP 10:17 < anders_> https://www.dabs.com 10:24 < d3mian> i have a wd hd 10:24 < d3mian> udma100 10:25 < d3mian> a 60 hd here, cost around 100 bill gates dollars 10:25 < anders_> Western Digital is alright.. I'd prefer Seagate or Fujitsu though.. 10:25 < d3mian> i prefer Segate too ;) 10:27 < anders_> I prefer SCSI to IDE, but cost means I can't afford SCSI.. 10:28 < d3mian> yes, me too 10:28 < d3mian> even i love scsi devices 10:36 < anders_> Perhaps I can afford more SCSI things next year. 10:36 < d3mian> why next year? 10:38 < anders_> to much things to get this year.. moving house, having to get a new car... :-( 10:38 < d3mian> ic, well, my prob is studying and not enough time to get a full time job 10:43 < anders_> d3mian: that usually prevents you from doing quite a lot of interesting stufff.. 10:43 < anders_> -f 10:45 < d3mian> i know 10:45 < d3mian> i hope finish this semestre soon!! 10:58 -!- freed [~freed@pD9001E1C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 11:10 < blindcoder> is the kernel on the install-disks the same one as the installed kernel? I need framebuffer on my system 11:12 < d3mian> blindcoder: yes 11:12 < d3mian> i guess 11:14 < blindcoder> thanks ;) then i can (finally) install ROCK on my workstation today ;) 11:15 < d3mian> cool 11:15 < d3mian> l_9_l did it a few hours ago too 11:15 < blindcoder> I've been busy customizing 1.5.14 for 4 weeks now 11:16 < d3mian> ok 11:17 -!- simon [~sts@pD951ED47.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:18 -!- simon [~sts@p50874C7A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:18 < d3mian> hi simon 11:19 < blindcoder> hi simon 11:55 < d3mian> is too late here 11:55 < d3mian> :( 12:01 < snyke_> 12:01 -!- snyke_ is now known as snyke 12:18 -!- Netsplit over, joins: simon, anders_, clifford_away, l_9_l, surprise, praenti, SMP 12:18 < d3mian> hello snike 12:19 < d3mian> what a lot of ppl 12:19 < d3mian> hi all 12:19 < blindcoder> re-hi 12:20 * blindcoder currently bruning away lots of stuff from his harddisk that can't be backed up on another computer... 12:26 < praenti> moin 12:26 < blindcoder> moin praenti 12:27 < snyke> praenti? 12:28 < d3mian> hi boys 12:29 < d3mian> praenti: what about ur plan to come to Costa Rica with esden? 12:31 < praenti> d3mian: seems to be a problem for me. for esden it is more important to make a itanium-port in summer with armijn somewhere in holland 12:31 -!- blindcoder is now known as blindy|eat 12:31 < praenti> d3mian: and i need monay because of my damaged notebook 12:31 < praenti> s/monay/money 12:31 < d3mian> umm, ic 12:32 < d3mian> well, if u think u can come here some time, advise us 12:32 < praenti> d3mian: i will. 12:32 < d3mian> ur welcome here 12:33 < d3mian> :) 12:34 < esden> morgaehhhhhn 12:34 < d3mian> ohh, time passes to fast, it's 04:31 here 12:34 < esden> morning 12:34 < d3mian> morning esden 12:36 < snyke> hmmm 12:36 < snyke> can sb. tell me what i've to do? 12:36 < snyke> tar: can't open /dev/sa0 : Device not configured 12:36 < d3mian> esden: where might i send u the summary? 12:36 < snyke> o.o 12:37 < praenti> snyke: what option doi you give tar 12:37 < snyke> -c 12:38 < d3mian> -C 12:38 < snyke> hmm 12:39 < snyke> --create also doesn't work 12:39 < snyke> >_< 12:40 < praenti> snyke: tar cvf *.tar directory 12:40 < d3mian> umm 12:42 < d3mian> esden ! 12:42 < esden> hmm irneresting ... on lkml come patches for hotplug cpu's 12:43 < esden> d3mian: send it to esden@www.rocklinux.net 12:43 < d3mian> ok 12:43 < esden> d3mian: send it to esden@rocklinux.org !!! 12:46 < d3mian> sent 12:47 < snyke> thx @ praenti 12:47 < esden> d3mian: there is no attachment ... 12:47 < d3mian> umm, let me check 12:48 < d3mian> check it again esden 12:48 < esden> now it is ok 12:48 < d3mian> :) 12:49 < d3mian> is it fine? 12:50 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@xs3.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 12:50 < d3mian> hi ringo78 12:58 -!- blindy|eat is now known as blindcoder 12:58 < blindcoder> back 13:00 < snyke> re blindcoder 13:01 < d3mian> i have to leave now 13:02 < blindcoder> bye d3mian 13:02 < d3mian> i reach to see the sun shining 13:02 < ringo78> bye d3mian 13:02 < d3mian> :p 13:02 < d3mian> bye 13:02 -!- d3mian is now known as d3m|away 13:07 -!- simon is now known as simon-- 13:09 -!- term_emu [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:10 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh 13:10 < term_aweh> hoi 13:28 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0ACD7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:28 < hackbard> hi 13:45 < rxr> re 13:50 < hackbard> puh, finally got the install shell extraxting packages on my old broken pentium 60 13:51 < hackbard> i would suggest to not have this ide bugfix stuff in the install kernel 13:56 -!- l_9_l [~jarod@217.17.228.83] has quit ("[BX] Automatically bored away") 13:58 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:58 < netcrow> hi 14:05 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 14:10 < hackbard> rxr: do you know anything new about the u5's ? 14:12 < rxr> hi hackbard 14:13 < rxr> hackbard: I now they are delayed 14:13 < hackbard> hi rene 14:13 < hackbard> delayed=given to POST? 14:16 < rxr> hackbard: no idea ... 14:17 -!- huebi_ is now known as huebi 14:19 * huebi reading log... 14:19 < rxr> moin huebi 14:22 < rxr> hackbard: should get a U5, too? 14:23 < rxr> ah yes - I remeber ... 14:23 < rxr> ah kdelibs-3.0.1 is ready ;-) 14:25 < huebi> moin! all together :-) 14:25 < hackbard> moin huebi! 14:26 < hackbard> rxr: jo, wollte sie dir doch sogar zuerts ueberlassen, bevor miguel abgesprungen ist :p 14:26 < hackbard> apropos kdelibs, ich habe es bis heute noch nicht geschafft das prog zu bauen ;) 14:26 < rxr> warum nicht (kdelibs)? 14:27 < rxr> : /.:AbiWord is small and compact (20 times smaller than OpenOffice!), 14:27 < rxr> super und 1/20 der funktionalitaet ... 14:27 < hackbard> hehe 14:28 < rxr> (wenn ueberhaupt ...) 14:28 < hackbard> schon wieder vergessen, lann es spaeter mal nochmal probieren .. 14:28 < esden> next version of rolling rock irc summary is out : https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/rollingrock/rollingrock.1 14:28 < hackbard> hi esden! 14:31 < rxr> esden: sieht gut aus! 14:31 < rxr> Aber ein Satz: Although and Cliff said it would be pretty dirty. 14:31 < rxr> ?? 14:31 < rxr> (Ich ueberfliege gerade nur ... :-) 14:33 < rxr> so kde-3.0.1 ist jetzt auf meiner box ... 14:33 < huebi> Ich habe gerade mit ripclaw gesprochen: 14:34 < huebi> Die Ultra 5en gehen fruehestens am Montag bei ihm raus :-) 14:35 < rxr> ooooooohhhhhhhhhh ::-(((((( 14:35 < hackbard> hehe :) 14:36 < huebi> rxr: Hast du irgendwo deine Quellen fuer mich zugaenglich? 14:36 < esden> rxr: hmm ... dass ist nich fertig dass ding ... dass ist nur ein vorschlag wie man sowas machen kann 14:36 < rxr> huebi: du weisst das es das offiziel erst in ner woche gibt ;-) 14:36 < esden> rxr: dass ist echt sehr zeitaufwendig ... 14:37 < esden> da muss ich mir ueberlegen wie ich die zeit der bearbeitung kuerzen kann 14:37 < rxr> esden: ich weiss! Ich finde es ja auch super! Mir ist nur der eine Satz aufgefallen ;-) ... 14:37 < huebi> rxr: Macht nichts. I ch meinte auch eher deinen rock tree 14:37 < rxr> huebi: ? Souce oder packete? 14:38 < rxr> fuer cut'n paste von packet configurationen ? 14:38 < huebi> source, also .ext .pz ... 14:38 < rxr> ah 14:38 < rxr> was moechtest du denn? rsync ftp/http zum browsen ? 14:39 < huebi> ftp ist gut 14:41 < rxr> ok - in progress 14:41 < huebi> rxr: danke 14:46 * rxr rsync rennt 14:47 < rxr> https://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock/source/ 14:47 < rxr> ftp://drocklinux.dyndns.org/drock/source/ 14:47 < rxr> suchst du gerade was bestimmtes? 14:51 < huebi> rxr: Im Moment nicht. Aber es ist oft sehr hilfreich wenn irgend etwas nicht funktioniert, mal bei Dir nach zu sehen. 14:52 < rxr> ;-) 14:56 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has joined #rocklinux 14:58 < huebi> hi tomik 14:58 < tomik> hello huebi 15:22 * rxr compiling kde-3.0.1 ... 15:23 * huebi installing rock on Ultra 30 15:24 * rxr wuere auch gerne ... 15:26 < huebi> rxr: You can get your U5 with ROCKlinux preinstalled. 15:28 < huebi> rxr: If you want.. 15:29 < huebi> ahh. set-defaults in OBP makes miracles become true 15:30 < rxr> huebi: no ;-) 15:30 < rxr> Thanks 15:30 < huebi> rxr: You don't want it? really? 15:31 < huebi> why? 15:32 < rxr> because I wnat to figure out how to install it myself ... 15:33 < huebi> hmm. The non written or forgotten tricks a on that disk... 15:33 < huebi> but you can erase it. 15:33 < huebi> of course 15:42 < rxr> heisst Cliffs asci-art von letzer nacht das er heute unterwegs ist ? :-( 15:42 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/cowsay_3.03.orig.tar.gz 15:43 < huebi> rxr: jo 15:43 < rxr> :-( shit - dann muss ich 1.7 wohl selber zu ende fixen ... 15:43 * huebi now has advertise banners 15:43 < huebi> ;) 15:43 < huebi> rxr: Vile Spass und Erfolg 15:44 < rxr> where are your advertise banners ? 15:45 < rxr> huebi: btw: Do you know where I can disable Apache's filename lengh limiting for directory browsing? I have not found this yet ... 15:47 < huebi> no, I don't. 15:48 < huebi> 15:42 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/cowsay_3.03.orig.tar.gz <- advertise banner ;) 16:01 -!- anders_ [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit ("cya 2moz chaps..") 16:10 < huebi> I testet the version of the Open Boot Prom. It's ok. 16:10 < huebi> SMP: Are you here? 16:11 < SMP> yes. 16:11 < SMP> (_don't ask about world) 16:11 < huebi> kool 16:12 < huebi> SMP: No I don't. I first ping the world before I ask. 16:12 < huebi> hmm. I forgot what I wanted to ask. Excuse me, please. 16:13 < SMP> hehe ;) 16:15 < huebi> SMP: I still have another 4 SCSI disks of the sort you got... 16:15 < huebi> SMP: Could you boot your SGI from the Pioneer CDRON? <- That was the Question. 16:15 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M092P005.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:15 < SMP> ahh 16:16 < SMP> no, the drive can't (physically) read the boot cdrom 16:16 < SMP> the cdrom works with other drives 16:16 < SMP> and the drive of course works with other cdroms 16:16 < SMP> :-( 16:17 < huebi> SMP: If you use the CD-Rom on your SGI you can't boot from it? 16:22 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@62.46.2.161] has joined #rocklinux 16:24 < SMP> no, obviously not 16:26 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@p50815F2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:38 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has quit ("irssi rulezz") 16:40 -!- term_aweh [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has quit ("zz") 17:17 * rxr needs a faster box again ;-) 17:17 < huebi> rxr: E15K? 17:18 < rxr> for example ;-) 17:19 < rxr> but a dual Athlon 2.5 GHz would also be a nice step forward ;-) 17:19 < huebi> rxr: better a few Origin 3800. They will last at least a few weeks. 17:20 < huebi> rxr: If you bye 5 of them SGI will double it's "Umsatz" 17:22 < praenti> re 17:24 < rxr> huebi: yeah they would be really cool - could you find a sponsor ? *g* 17:26 < huebi> rxr: Much cheaper it is to find one somewhere in the internet. With open root account. You have full support. And if it's on the other side of the earth you can use it the whole day while your service team is sleeping. 17:46 < rxr> so kde libs and base finished 18:06 < praenti> so etz hab ich keinen bock mehr zu patchen 18:07 < huebi> praenti: Was geht ab? ;-) 18:07 < praenti> nix. bloß ich bin die letzten Tage nur am patchen gewesen. schon ins changelog vom cvs reingeschaut? 18:08 < praenti> ich hoffe mal dass ich den rest dann morgen schaffe. 18:08 * praenti will am samstag compilen 18:08 < huebi> praenti: mach' ich sobald die U30 ihr rock linux installiert. 18:09 < praenti> huebi: die trottel bei sf haben nämlich direkte downloads gesperrt. jetzt muss man mirror benutzen... 18:10 < huebi> hmm. Echte Bandbreitengeizhaelse. Die haben wohl richtig schlecht Vertraege... 18:10 < huebi> +e 18:16 < praenti> und drin 18:17 < huebi> praenti: ?? 18:17 < praenti> ca. 70% von den exts downloaden wieder 18:17 < huebi> praenti: Super, gute Aktion von dir. 18:17 < huebi> Ich mache sofort mal ein ChangeLog 18:18 < praenti> im base waren auch ein paar. ich hoffe mal die portierer keine neuen patches brauchen. 18:18 < praenti> ...dass... 18:24 < praenti> wau. das is ja ein richtiger batzen gewesen 18:24 < huebi> Changelog ist da 18:24 < rxr> praenti: hast du ein script dafuer benutzt ? 18:24 < praenti> habs gelesen. 18:24 < praenti> rxr: was für ein script? 18:25 < rxr> zum konvertieren der download URLs 18:25 < praenti> rxr: für die sf-downloads? 18:25 < rxr> jups 18:25 < praenti> rxr: hast du eins? 18:25 < rxr> ? 18:25 < rxr> ich wollte das doch jetzt ovn dir bekommen *g* 18:26 < huebi> *lol* 18:26 < rxr> sed -e "bla bla " sollte doch ausreichen ... ? 18:26 < praenti> aso. nee da bin ich erst zu spät draufgekommen. mir ist erst bei der hälfte aufgefallen, dass sf mirrors nur noch lässt 18:26 < rxr> praenti: wir muessen ja 1.7 und dRock auch noch adaptieren ... 18:26 < rxr> ok ich mach das dann ... 18:27 < praenti> rxr: ich hab auch deshalb kein script gebaut, weil ich die version noch mit durchgesehen hab. 18:27 < huebi> praenti: Wie war noch mal die URL von QOS? 18:27 < praenti> huebi: mom 18:27 < rxr> praenti: oh das hat vermutlich richtig lange gedauert ;-) 18:29 < praenti> huebi: https://www.prout.be/qos/ 18:29 < praenti> rxr: naja. ging eigentlich doch recht schnell. dank der guten bedienung in kde 18:29 < rxr> praenti: ? 18:29 * praenti versteht deshalb esden und blidcoder nicht 18:30 * rxr auch nicht 18:30 < rxr> aber welche bedienung im speziellen meinst du gerade ? 18:30 < praenti> rxr: kde-console. shift+pfeillinks/pfeiilrechts 18:30 < snyke> praenti? 18:30 < snyke> bzw. esden? 18:31 < praenti> das ist extrem schnelles consolen wechseln 18:31 < snyke> ne was andere 18:31 < snyke> s 18:31 < snyke> mein ich 18:31 < snyke> https://www.seelus.de/Claus/scann/ <- denkst du das gibt aerger? 18:31 < snyke> scan quer uebers bingo-ev 18:31 < praenti> snyke: esden nimmt doch immer so schmale windowmanager (ala evilwm oder blackbox) 18:32 < rxr> kwm ist auch "schmal" - der rest ist kein window manager ;-) 18:32 < praenti> rxr: jo 18:32 < rxr> aber KDE ROCK wirklich - interesse and 3.0.1 binaries in ein paar stunden? 18:33 < snyke> praenti: gesehen? 18:33 < praenti> rxr: wo hast du die her? 18:33 < praenti> snyke: wer ist das? 18:33 < rxr> ssh fuer packager ;-) 18:34 < praenti> rxr: ich compilier mir das zur Zeit immer selbst direkt aus dem CVS raus 18:34 < rxr> kde-3.0.0 war ja leider etwas instable ... 18:34 < snyke> praenti: siehe titel 18:34 < snyke> das bin NICHT ich!!! 18:34 < praenti> hab ich auch festgestellt. die cvs-version ist da wesentlich besser 18:35 < rxr> praenti: ah CVS is auch ok ;-) Nur fuer dRock-1.6.0 brauche ich was stabileres as 3.0.0. 18:35 < snyke> KokoB (18:25): https://www.seelus.de/Claus/scann/ <- Was da alles im Ingolstadt.de Netzwerke is .. Tz 18:35 * snyke @ essen 18:39 < rxr> should categories like browser editor or emulators put into the plural form ? 18:40 < huebi> praenti: danke 18:43 < rxr> hm the kde-3.0.1 graphic seems to be much smother ;-) 18:45 < praenti> rxr: if you want more graphical gimmicks in kde use liquid-mosfet style 18:46 < rxr> praenti: I do ;-) 18:46 < rxr> https://drocklinux.dyndns.org/rene/me/gp3/gallery.html 18:46 < praenti> rxr: ok. i have the same 18:46 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/drock-screens.html 18:46 < rxr> praenti: liquid-mosfet is also included in 1.7 and dRock *g* 18:47 * rxr wondering a new screenshot of my currently anti-aliased fonts only desktop would be nice ... 18:50 * praenti goes eating and then in the city 18:50 < praenti> cya 18:50 -!- praenti is now known as praenti|away 18:50 < rxr> cu2 18:50 < huebi> by praenti|away 19:15 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9590FF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:20 < rxr> hi chrisime 19:35 < chrisime> esden: da? 19:35 < chrisime> rxr: hi 19:59 < rxr> kde 3.0.1 binaries continue to show up at: 19:59 < rxr> https://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock/unstable/various-updates/ 20:00 * chrisime hates kde 20:00 < chrisime> it's "BUTT UGLY" 20:00 < rxr> what? 20:00 < chrisime> yes 20:01 < rxr> kde? 20:01 < chrisime> yes 20:01 < chrisime> and it's slow 20:01 < rxr> if you think so ... 20:01 < chrisime> and consumes much mem 20:02 < chrisime> i know it 20:02 < chrisime> i will test it and compare it again 20:02 < chrisime> ...against gnome2 20:02 < rxr> what do you currently use? 20:02 < rxr> gnome ? *wunder* 20:02 < chrisime> ya 20:02 < rxr> urgh 20:02 < chrisime> rxr: www.gnome.org/~chrisime/pix 20:03 < rxr> and nautilus is not slow ? 20:04 < chrisime> no 20:04 < chrisime> klick 20:04 < chrisime> and it opens 20:04 < chrisime> 2 seconds at the most 20:04 < chrisime> rxr: www.gnome.org/~chrisime/pix/ggv_in_nauti.png 20:05 < chrisime> gnome comsumes <48 MB incl. nautilus 20:05 < chrisime> now check kde 20:05 < chrisime> kde is for machines > 1 GHz 20:05 < rxr> chrisime: I do not discuss such questions anymore 20:05 < rxr> what do you do for Gnome? 20:05 < chrisime> i don't think they'll manage to get it quicker/less mem consuming till 3.2 20:06 < chrisime> rxr: das is einfach wahr 20:06 < chrisime> rxr: ich habs hier drauf 20:06 < chrisime> und es ist *langsam* 20:06 < chrisime> ich brauch kein winxp 2.version 20:06 < rxr> 3.0 is much faster than the 2.2 series 20:06 < chrisime> no 20:06 < rxr> chrisime: do you programm gnome stuff ? 20:06 < chrisime> tested it 20:08 < rxr> chrisime: I now it is more than 10% faster - and I know how buggy gtk+ gtkmm ist ... 20:08 < chrisime> 1.2 20:09 < rxr> gtkmm 1.3 is even more buggy - and the half not implemented ... 20:12 < rxr> GSMP will move to another toolkit - this stuff is really no basis for a serious project ... 20:19 -!- cap [~cap@pD9048550.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:21 < cap> <-- back with dRock 20:21 < cap> anyone alive? 20:21 < rxr> already installed ? 20:21 < cap> yup 20:21 < rxr> jups hi cap 20:21 < cap> :-) dRock's fine 20:21 < rxr> Nice to hear! 20:22 < cap> (but its not idiot-proof) 20:22 < rxr> ;-) yes it is not 20:23 < rxr> what was not that idiot proof? 20:24 -!- martin_b [~martin@pD9E7AEE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:24 < martin_b> hi all, hi rxr 20:24 < rxr> hi 20:25 < martin_b> https://drocklinux.dyndns.org/ftp/drock/unstable/various-updates/ 20:25 < martin_b> alles mit kdexxx ? 20:25 < rxr> erhm arts und qt und kdoc auch ... 20:25 < rxr> eigendlich alles ... 20:25 < martin_b> ups. qt ist schon wieder neu? 20:25 < rxr> martin_b: dein formular sieht gut aus! 20:26 < rxr> jups 20:26 < rxr> martin_b: da fehlen aber noch ein paar packete - die strudeln so nach und nach ein 20:26 < rxr> du kannst aber auch alte und neue mixen ... 20:26 < martin_b> Danke. das kann man bei ueber 600 Zeilen auch erwarten. Muss es aber noch dem IE einwenig anpassen ... *wuerg* 20:27 < martin_b> Immer wenn ich etwas unter various-updates/ finde ist es neu und gut fuer mich? 20:28 < rxr> das hoffe ich ... 20:29 < martin_b> okay. kannst dir ja mal deinen upload angucken ... ;-) 20:46 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 20:46 < Mike1> hi 20:46 < Mike1> d3m|away 20:46 < Mike1> 12:51pm up 18:52, 1 user, load average: 17.67, 21.73, 12.75 20:51 < rxr> now most packages are ready mostly kdevelop and koffice are missing 20:51 < rxr> but sponsoring a faster CPU would speed this up *hint* 20:54 < Mike1> rxr :) 20:55 < rxr> hi Mike1 how are you? 20:55 < Mike1> rxr pretty good thanks and you? 20:55 * Mike1 working harder than ever 20:56 < rxr> Godd, too ,) (still waiting for the U5 :-( - huebi said it should get send next monday ...) 20:57 < rxr> martin_b: btw. does you xemacs work currently? - and loads your one critical .html file correct= 20:58 < Mike1> rxr I would give you access to my U5 but i made a pretty nice bussiness with it 20:58 < Mike1> i set up a mail server for the company i work for on it because they really needed a mail server running on sparc box 20:58 < Mike1> and now they will buy me a Blade 100 :) 20:59 < rxr> Mike1: Oh! 21:03 < Mike1> rxr what do u think? 21:04 < martin_b> rxr: Yes, it works good. 21:05 < rxr> Although I do not know why you need a mail server on a Sun ... - but having a Blade 100 to play with is definetely nice ;-) 21:05 < rxr> martin_b: could you stress konqui and the kicker? Would be nice to know if the sporadic crash bugs are gone ;-) 21:07 < Mike1> rxr i dont care about they deciding to use a sun for mail server, but trading an U5 for a Blade 100 is great deal i think :) 21:10 < martin_b> rxr: the kicker ist perfect. konqi okay. but the kde is very very slow! 21:10 < rxr> martin_b: ? why ? 21:10 < rxr> different than 3.0 or 2.2.2 ? 21:15 * Mike1 console rulez :) 21:16 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D913.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:17 < thalerim> hello 21:17 < Mike1> hi thalerim 21:17 < martin_b> rxr: why? I don't know. konqi needs 3s to start. The Konsole, too. 21:18 < thalerim> hi Mike1 :-] 21:19 < huebi> hi Mike1 , hi thalerim 21:19 < Mike1> hello huebi 21:20 < rxr> was 3.0 or 2.2.2 faster for you? 21:20 * thalerim salutes. 21:20 < thalerim> hallo huebi ;-) 21:21 < huebi> Mike1: running a mailserver on Sparc is a very good decision. There are only a few exploits known only by a few people. No script kiddies like on intel. 21:21 < Mike1> huebi hehe yeap running linux 21:21 * thalerim is away: eating 21:21 < thalerim> bbl. (mjammm) 21:22 < huebi> Mike1: even better with Linux. Solaris exploits are more often and known faster in the wild, wild net. 21:23 < huebi> a fix for the xntp-deamon needed 6-7 months on solaris. 21:23 < rxr> martin_b: ping 21:23 < Mike1> huebi hehe yeah i really like the way it is working 21:23 < Mike1> huebi how do u set time on solaris? 21:24 < rxr> martin_b: (the C++ application startup time can be decreesed by > 75 % with a hacks - but the last time I tried this it was not stable ...) 21:24 < huebi> with date. or in the Open Boot Prom 21:26 < Mike1> hehe 21:27 < Mike1> can i ask u another question regarding solaris? 21:27 < huebi> Mike1: of course, yes. 21:28 < Mike1> huebi how do i start the ftp daemon? 21:28 * Mike1 has never been admin of a solaris server 21:28 < huebi> Mike1: uncomment it in /etc/inetd.conf. 21:29 < huebi> Mike1: do you need OpenSSH on Solaris? 21:29 < martin_b> rxr: ohh, wieviele Parkete folgen jetzt noch? 21:29 < Mike1> huebi the server is in canada i can only access it with ssh :) 21:30 < huebi> can you make a telnet on port 22 on that server? 21:31 < rxr> koffice kde-i18n-* kde-dRock ... 21:31 < huebi> Mike1: What version do you have (ssh) does the server say? 21:31 < Mike1> mom i will have a look 21:32 < huebi> Mike1: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.1p1 <- rock 1.5.14 21:32 < Mike1> huebi no but it is running solaris 5.7 21:32 < Mike1> huebi nice 21:32 < huebi> Mike1: telnet <servername> 22 ? 21:33 < huebi> Mike1: I ask that because of the local user root exploit. 21:33 < Mike1> it doesnt work 21:34 < huebi> Mike1: ssh -vvv <servername> ? 21:35 < huebi> Mike1: ssh -v <servername> ? One -v is enough. 21:35 < huebi> Mike1: in the first line you get the ssh version 21:36 < Mike1> huebi mom i was trying to do the telnet command from a host that hast no permitions to make any kind of connections 21:36 < huebi> :-)) 21:36 < Mike1> SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.1p1 21:36 < Mike1> heh 21:36 < huebi> Mike1: That's ok and secure. 21:36 < Mike1> *g 21:38 < huebi> Mike1: My experiece is that normaly all unsecure services are disabled when OpenSSH is installed. 21:39 < Mike1> gut :) 21:39 * huebi booting solaris 21:39 * Mike1 will need huebi to teach him about solaris boxes admin 21:40 * thalerim is back (gone 00:18:45) 21:41 < thalerim> hey huebi: have you ever dreamt to a song of Deine Lakaeien? 21:41 < huebi> thalerim: no. 21:42 < thalerim> ok, i will upload.. but tell me the server again, please (i re-installed my ftp-client, so the config was removed) 21:46 -!- martin_b [~martin@pD9E7AEE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 21:47 < huebi> thalerim: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/upload 21:47 < thalerim> thx 21:51 * SMP going $HOME 21:51 < thalerim> huebi: i will upload only the best ones (5/6) 21:51 < huebi> thalerim: ok 21:52 -!- SMP [~stefanp@lolita.WRonline.de] has quit ("foo") 21:59 < huebi> Mike1: You need that line: 21:59 < huebi> ftp stream tcp6 nowait root /usr/sbin/in.ftpd in.ftpd 21:59 < huebi> in /etc/inetd.conf 21:59 < huebi> for ftp services 22:00 < huebi> no # in front of it! 22:02 < Mike1> huebi yes i already did it Master :) thank you 22:02 < simon--> tcp6 wasn't this for ipv6? 22:04 < thalerim> tcp&= 22:05 < thalerim> tcp6? 22:10 -!- martin_b [~martin@pD9E7AEE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:11 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9590FF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 22:16 < thalerim> huebi: listen to Deine Lakaien - Garden ! 22:16 < thalerim> very very good :-) 22:18 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@p50815F2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast.") 22:26 < rxr> martin_b: and result? 22:27 -!- cap [~cap@pD9048550.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:28 < martin_b> rxr: Hi. KDE 3.0.1 works. 22:28 < rxr> faster? 22:29 < rxr> btw the 3.0 kicker crashed often for me - I wonder that this has not yet happend for you ... 22:29 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@p50815F2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:30 < wschlich> heyho 22:31 < martin_b> The kicker crashed never. But KDE is not really faster. 22:31 < rxr> nice 22:31 < rxr> how much? 22:32 -!- cap [~cap@pD9048550.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:33 < martin_b> Wie soll ich da einen Unterschied beschreiben? 22:34 < rxr> egal 22:35 < martin_b> Konsole startet schneller und das Verschieben des Kickers geht jetzt viel schneller und besser. 22:35 < rxr> ich baue ueber nach KDE mal wieder prelinked (sollte startup zeit um ca 75% verringern) mal sehen ob es diesmal tut ... 22:36 * rxr so alle KDE-3.0.1 binareis sind jetzt fertig 22:40 * rxr browsing files over ssh in konqi 22:40 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D913.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:40 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D913.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:40 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D913.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:41 * rxr impressed 22:42 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082A967.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:42 < tsa> tag 22:43 < huebi> hi tsa 22:44 -!- martin_b [~martin@pD9E7AEE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:44 < tsa> hi huebi 22:45 * tsa deleting 90 cvs change mails 22:45 < tsa> *sigh* 22:47 -!- l_9_l [~root@217.17.228.53] has joined #rocklinux 22:47 < tsa> ~root@ ? 22:47 < tsa> uh. 22:47 < l_9_l> :D 22:48 < l_9_l> i'm in lan..:D even though i shouldn't log as root.. 22:49 < l_9_l> anyway..hi 22:49 -!- l_9_l [~root@217.17.228.53] has quit (Client Quit) 22:50 < cap> rxr: whats libORBitCosNaming.so.0 ? its missing, so gnome doesnt start 22:50 -!- l_9_l [~root@217.17.228.53] has joined #rocklinux 22:50 * huebi is burning suse-sparc-7.3-CD1.iso. splack does not boot on U30 22:51 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9590FF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:51 < rxr> cap: sec 22:51 < tsa> huebi: have fun with yast ;-) 22:51 < rxr> cap: you installed orbit ? 22:51 < cap> hm i guess i forgot.. 22:52 < cap> what about dependencies in rock? 22:52 < huebi> tsa: No! I just boot the rescue system. 22:52 < rxr> ROCK 2.0 will have dependecies ;-) 22:52 < cap> nice :-) 22:52 < chrisime> jo! 22:52 < rxr> (auto generated - not hardcoded like on all other dists ;-) 22:56 < rxr> cap: you can simply untar the package in your running system ... 22:58 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@p50815F2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("If you are going to walk on thin ice, you may as well dance.") 22:59 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@p50815F2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:59 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@p50815F2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:59 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@p50815F2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:06 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@p50815F2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.") 23:11 * cap is goin to start gnome 23:11 -!- cap [~cap@pD9048550.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:15 -!- martin_b [~martin@pD9E7AEE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:17 -!- wschlich [~wschlich@p50815F2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:19 < rxr> martin_b: I just started to build prelinked kde binaries which should start magnitudes faster (if they work) 23:19 < tsa> rxr: why will they be fster? 23:19 < tsa> faster even 23:20 < martin_b> rxr: what is prelink? *...???...* 23:20 -!- cap [~cap@pD9048550.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:21 < rxr> because the symbols of all the virtual functions and templates do not need to be relocated during runtime / startup 23:21 < cap> :) 23:21 < rxr> they can be already relocated during compile-time - this was a long missing feature of the gcc / binutils toolchain 23:21 < tsa> hm...interesting.. 23:22 < rxr> it is included in the 2.12.90 binutils ;-) 23:22 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@xs3.xs4all.nl] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:22 < tsa> i've noticed a precompiled galeon from an RH rpm package starting up faster on a slower machine than my galeon built from source - is this the same thing? 23:22 < rxr> before this it was ditributed as stand-alone .c file for research tests ;-) 23:22 < rxr> tsa: this might indeed be possible 23:23 < rxr> but maybe more a mozilla build issue ... 23:23 < rxr> mozilla is more c++ than galeon is ... 23:23 < tsa> hm...ok.. 23:23 < rxr> this prelink thing is c++ specific 23:23 < tsa> is there a way to include this kind of prelinking into the rock build scripts? 23:23 < rxr> galeon consist of C and C++ ... 23:24 * rxr taking a look into mozilla ;-) 23:27 -!- cap [~cap@pD9048550.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:29 < martin_b> rxr: Beim Verschieben eines Fensters bekomme ich locker 80 bis 99 % CPU-Belastung. Soll das so sein? 23:30 < rxr> kommt darauf and 23:31 < rxr> prinzipjell macht das deine hardware 23:31 < rxr> wenn aber im neu aufgedecktem hintergrund komplexe sachen angezeigt werden, muss doch deine CPU ein paar sachen zusammenrechnen 23:31 < martin_b> Ja, meine arme CPU ;-) 23:32 < martin_b> War bei KDE 2.2.2, dRock 1.4.x aber nicht so extrem 23:32 < rxr> z.b. andere fenster aufwendige gradienten auf hintergrundbildern ... 23:32 < rxr> hatest du da schon nen hintergrund-bild mit on-the-fly farbverlauf ? 23:33 < rxr> under windows hast du die gleiche auslastung - da siehst du das nur nicht ;-) 23:33 < tsa> rxr: so do you think there could some optimizing be done with mozilla / galeon? 23:34 < rxr> tsa: still taking a look - just finished grepping qt 23:34 < tsa> ok 23:35 * huebi is cycle booting the sun... 23:37 * tsa nearly spent 1500 USD for a U60 on ebay yesterday.. 23:37 < rxr> tsa: thinking about this mozilla might not be accelerateable, because they do not use templates and virtual functions (that often) because they do not work with older / broken C++ compilers at all ... 23:37 < tsa> rxr: ok, i understand 23:38 < rxr> tsa: hatten wir letzen die sidkussion ueber qt threaded oder nicht? 23:39 < tsa> rxr: uhm....keine ahnung...da war ich zumindest hier nicth dabei.. 23:39 < rxr> oder war das th ? 23:40 < rxr> kdelibs hat naemlich: 23:40 < rxr> --disable-threading disables threading even if libpthread found 23:40 < rxr> ups sorry wronf line 23:40 < rxr> --disable-mt link to non-threaded Qt (deprecated) 23:43 < rxr> here are the theories about prelinking: 23:43 < rxr> https://leon.bottou.com/objprelink/ 23:43 * tsa reading 23:47 < rxr> shortly after the first test versions I also tried a drock (last october) with prelinking enabled 23:47 < rxr> but the resulting binraies did nothing ... 23:52 < huebi> n8 23:52 < rxr> guten schlaf! 23:52 < martin_b> bye 23:52 < Mike1> i have an issue here 23:52 < Mike1> opinion mailman or minimalist? 23:53 < Mike1> what would you huys recomend? 23:53 < rxr> tsa: the build-in support in binutils is invocen by "-z nocopyreloc" 23:53 < Mike1> s/h/g 23:53 < rxr> I'll try it out ;-) 23:53 < rxr> erhm and -z combreloc 23:53 < rxr> COOOOL: * Support for the OpenRISC 32-bit embedded processor by OpenCores. 23:54 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9590FF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:55 < tsa> Mike1: mailman 23:56 < tsa> minimalist handles the rock linux mailing list - and it seems to be damn slow.. 23:56 < d3m|away> hi 23:56 < d3m|away> brb 23:56 < tsa> hi d3m|away 23:56 -!- d3m|away is now known as d3mian 23:56 < Mike1> tsa ever tryed mailman? 23:56 < d3mian> hola todos 23:56 < Mike1> d3mian hi 23:56 < tsa> Mike1: yes, we're using it at work and it's doing fine.. 23:57 < Mike1> it doesnt have the cc limit users issue that majordomo has does it? 23:57 < tsa> hm...never tried that one.. 23:58 < Mike1> tsa mm ok thanks for your recomendation --- Log closed Fri May 10 00:00:24 2002