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--- Log opened Fri May 24 00:00:09 2002 --- Day changed Fri May 24 2002 00:00 < hackbard> missing libgcc1.a in architecture/sparc64 .. 00:03 -!- panicool [fractal@1-080.pgosm700-1.telepar.net.br] has joined #rocklinux 00:03 -!- panicool [fractal@1-080.pgosm700-1.telepar.net.br] has left #rocklinux () 00:11 < hackbard> hmm, touch'ing {binutils,gcc}.done in Build-CrossCC isnt very usefull as there is always a new $id .. 00:11 < tsa> hm... 00:12 < hackbard> i am going to hate get_unique ;) 00:12 < tsa> hehe 00:12 < huebi> 1.7? 00:12 < esden> I hate everything what has to do with computers ... I hate programming and debugging ... 00:13 < hackbard> lol 00:13 < tsa> esden: werd' landwirt. 00:13 < tsa> ;) 00:13 < esden> ok .. so I go coding/debuging dietlibc on my computer 00:13 < huebi> tsa: esden _ist Landwirt *gg* 00:13 < tsa> ROTFL. 00:13 < hackbard> hehe 00:13 < esden> why Landwirt ? 00:13 < tsa> hm...ich update jetzt rene's zeug auf sf. 00:15 * -> esden is a bad bad boy ... the patches I make are really bad ... ;-) 00:15 < tsa> hehe 00:15 * tsa is bad, too. updating packages from others.. 00:16 < esden> patching configure files is really bad ... 00:16 < tsa> gkrellm-plugins is strange. just one skin in it, and that one looks really ugly. 00:16 < hackbard> esden: definetly! 00:16 < hackbard> tsa: no, thats just clever :) 00:16 < tsa> esden: why don't you patch configure.in, then? 00:16 < tsa> hackbard: hm? why that? 00:17 < hackbard> hmm, its easier to copy paste that stuff instead of makeing it on ur own 00:17 < esden> tsa: so include https://muhri.net/gkrellm/GKrellM-Skins.tar.gz 00:18 < hackbard> ohh, maybe i didnt undesrtand you correctly :p 00:18 * huebi likes music of Lalo Schifrin 00:18 < tsa> sure. that's what i did five minutes ago. 00:18 < esden> tsa: I have no time... and there is none in binutils/gcc 00:18 < esden> I mean binutils 00:18 < esden> in gcc there is one 00:18 < tsa> esden: hm...take all the skins? 00:18 < esden> but the code in autoconf is not dietlibc compatible ... 00:19 < esden> tsa: sure 00:19 < tsa> esden: i chose some which look pretty, imho. i don't want all the bad-looking stuff, too.. 00:19 < tsa> YMMV. 00:20 < esden> tsa: how do you want to decide if a skin is looking good or bad ? 00:20 < esden> tsa: your taste is not "allgegenwertig" ... 00:21 < esden> allgegenwertig := omnipresent 00:21 < tsa> esden: ACK. --> YMMV. (your mileage may vary) 00:21 -!- hackbard_ [~hackbard@p50807C7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:21 < tsa> re hackbard 00:22 < esden> tsa: ahh kk 00:22 < esden> re hackbard 00:22 < tsa> i hope we'll have a big cvs for the complete rock-1.7 soon.. 00:23 < tsa> many stuff is so easy to fix, especially small version updates etc. 00:23 < hackbard_> ui, re 00:23 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0A632.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: hackbard_!~hackbard@p50807C7D.dip.t-dialin.net))) 00:23 -!- hackbard_ is now known as hackbard 00:23 < hackbard> stromausfall 24h ago ;) 00:24 < esden> tsa: that is the trivial stuff .. we need slaves for it ... so we can concentrate on the really importaint stuff ... ;-) 00:24 < tsa> esden: trivial stuff has to be done, too. 00:24 < esden> tsa: sure ... that is what we need slaves for ;-) 00:26 < tsa> esden: direct access to all packages would make things easier. 00:27 < tsa> i need 5 minutes to make a patch and send it to the list, but only 1 minute to fix the package with direct access. 00:27 -!- rxr_xchat [~rene@port-212-202-173-94.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:27 < rxr_xchat> hi 00:27 < tsa> aaah 00:27 < rxr_xchat> I have some strange problem here ... 00:27 < tsa> rxr_xchat: i just updated your gkrellm and gkrellm-plugins packages. 00:27 < rxr_xchat> most openproject servers are not reachable ... 00:27 < rxr_xchat> tsa: nice 00:27 < tsa> sent you a mail, too.. 00:28 < tsa> rxr_xchat: hm....which servers did you try? 00:28 < rxr_xchat> but this might be a prob of qsc since some others hosts are also not reachable from here :-((((( 00:28 < tsa> perhaps it's qsc problem. 00:28 < esden> rxr_xchat: is telekom playing ping porg with tcp/ip packets once more ? 00:28 < rxr_xchat> er my remote irssi is still trying ... 00:28 < rxr_xchat> hm it not telekom is's qsc ... 00:28 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ("BitchX: now with 38 percent fewer calories!") 00:28 < tsa> i always take "irc.openprojects.net", this will redirect you to the best server for you.. 00:28 < esden> rxr_xchat: ohh ... ok 00:29 < rxr_xchat> I also got 3 disconnects yesterday ... 00:29 < tsa> hm...bad. 00:29 < esden> qdsl-home.de <- sure I should read before talking ... 00:29 < rxr_xchat> irsii is still trying to connect irc.openprojects.net 00:29 < rxr_xchat> I also tried us and at ... 00:30 < rxr_xchat> now I'm at at ... 00:30 < rxr_xchat> ok tsa some new idea? 00:30 < rxr_xchat> rene@jackson:~/develop/rock/package/package/sourceforge > cvs update 00:30 < tsa> rxr_xchat: no, nothing new. 00:30 < rxr_xchat> ssh: connect to address 216.136.171.202 port 22: Connection timed ou 00:30 < rxr_xchat> argh 00:30 < rxr_xchat> even cvs to sf is not working ... 00:30 < tsa> perhaps anybody else has some ideas? 00:31 < rxr_xchat> hm most non-working stuff ends behind: 00:31 < rxr_xchat> ibr01-f1-0.decx01.exodus.net 00:31 < tsa> hm.. 00:32 < rxr_xchat> tsa: some ideas I missed ? (during my off-time) 00:32 < tsa> rxr_xchat: no. 00:32 < rxr_xchat> ok what would you like to have on it ? 00:33 < esden> get illiad to draw us a poster ;-) 00:33 < tsa> yes, that would be really cool. 00:33 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 00:33 < tsa> hi d3mian 00:33 < d3mian> r 00:33 < d3mian> e\ 00:33 < d3mian> hehe :p 00:33 < tsa> ;) 00:33 < esden> like last year he done for debian ... 00:33 < esden> but I also have someone else ... 00:33 * tsa listening 00:34 < tsa> who? 00:34 < esden> piro 00:34 * huebi is watching Rush Hour *lol* 00:35 < esden> ak Fred Gallagher 00:35 < rxr_xchat> we should distinguish betwwen some hand-out poster (we might do later for other events? A3 or so) and a big one (A0 or A1) to hang up on the stand ... 00:36 < tsa> hm...do you think we really need a handout poster? 00:36 < rxr_xchat> maybe the little poster can contian the "schalgwort" slogans stuff esden mentioned 00:36 < tsa> i think we'll need 2-3 different large posters for the booth, first. 00:36 < rxr_xchat> tsa: I mean tinyer stuff like esden can pin up (;-) at his uni and so .. 00:36 < tsa> ah, ok. 00:36 < tsa> esden: www.fredart.com ? 00:36 < rxr_xchat> tsa: clifford_away printed some cards for3 last CCC ... 00:37 < tsa> rxr_xchat: are they available anywhere to hae a look? 00:37 < tsa> +v 00:37 < rxr_xchat> A5 or A6 or so to give away ... 00:37 < esden> tsa: the guy is drawing www.megatokyo.com 00:37 < rxr_xchat> tsa: I could just scan it ;-)( 00:38 < rxr_xchat> if i find them 00:38 < esden> tsa: sure ... that is the guy ;-) 00:38 < tsa> ok, do it. 00:38 < tsa> esden: ok. 00:38 < tsa> what do we want at all? chicks or tech-stuff? 00:38 < tsa> vote is open. now. 00:39 < esden> chicks ! 00:39 < tsa> .oO( i knew this! ) 00:39 < SMP> *ROOOOOOTFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL* 00:39 < SMP> https://www.stateful.net/crypto.mp3 00:40 * tsa wgetting.. 00:40 -!- SMP changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Cool Linux: https://www.rocklinux.org/ --- Cool Song: https://www.stateful.net/crypto.mp3 00:40 < tsa> SMP: what would you like to see on the rock linux posters - any suggestions? 00:40 < rxr_xchat> ah found it 00:40 < SMP> ehr 00:41 < rxr_xchat> tsa: you do not need to write me mails about the modifcation on packages containing a [M] Rene tag ;-) just do it ... 00:41 < tsa> rxr_xchat: ok. 00:41 < tsa> note to myself: no more mails to rxr. ;-) 00:41 < esden> SMP: thot song is really cool 00:42 < tsa> what kind of audience do we want do reach at linuxtag? 00:42 * SMP still *rotf* 00:42 < rxr_xchat> argh 00:42 < tsa> tech people? 00:42 < tsa> sponsors? 00:42 < SMP> chicks! 00:43 * SMP wants to reach grrls 00:43 < tsa> *sigh* 00:43 < SMP> ;P 00:43 < SMP> /ignore SMP all 00:43 < tsa> SMP: ok. we'll need some nice photos from you, then. 00:43 < SMP> ;> 00:43 < rxr_xchat> freearet and megatokyo do also timeout for me ... ?!? 00:43 < tsa> SMP in bathsuit, something like that. 00:43 < rxr_xchat> stateful.net too ... 00:44 < tsa> rxr_xchat: ircd is running on your localhost, and we're all bots. 00:44 < tsa> ;) 00:44 < rxr_xchat> *g* 00:44 * rxr_xchat scanning 00:44 < huebi> mo chicks! hehe 00:45 < tsa> ok. 00:45 < tsa> rxr_xchat: we'll make 2 posters, then. huebi and SMP in bathsuits. 00:46 < tsa> ;-) 00:47 < huebi> *lol* 00:47 < rxr_xchat> ok ACK 00:47 < SMP> . o O ( UN*X is sexxxy! ) 00:48 < rxr_xchat> erm is my drocklinux server reachable ? 00:48 < SMP> Tracing the path to drocklinux.dyndns.org (213.20.128.87) on TCP port 80, 30 hops max 00:48 < SMP> 15 port-213-20-128-87.reverse.qdsl-home.de (213.20.128.87) [closed] 41.865 ms 43.882 ms 42.052 ms 00:48 < tsa> hm...this will result in at least 20 more suse installations ;-) 00:49 < d3mian> i cant rene 00:50 < rxr_xchat> tsa: rene/files/out.pnm 00:50 < rxr_xchat> but the dyndns nameserver currently return the wrong ip ... 00:51 < rxr_xchat> SMP: this is not my ip you ping ... :-( 00:51 < tsa> which is the correct one, then? 00:52 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@62.46.1.84] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:52 < rxr_xchat> addr:212.202.173.94 00:52 < tsa> wget running. 00:52 < rxr_xchat> https://212.202.173.94/rene/files/out.png 00:53 < tsa> 404 00:53 < rxr_xchat> ah I see why they return the wrong IP I can not reach dyndns.org to update the entry :-( 00:53 < rxr_xchat> tsa: .pnm sorry 00:54 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@62.46.0.174] has joined #rocklinux 00:54 < tsa> re clifford_away 00:54 < d3mian> drocklinux.dyndns.org. 33 IN A 213.20.128.87 00:54 < esden> arrrgh ... WHO INCLUDED gcc3 in dietlibc target ... 00:55 < esden> as If I han not enough problems with gcc2 00:55 < rxr_xchat> esden: me - otherwise I can not test on sparc64 ... 00:56 < rxr_xchat> esden: simply remove it from the packagelist: - *gcc3* oder so .. 00:56 < esden> rxr_xchat: it is ok ... I will have to live with it ... I have to get the packet working sooner or later anyways 00:57 < tsa> rxr_xchat: i like the jon masters quote. 00:57 < tsa> use it again? 00:57 < rxr_xchat> ;-) I can help with it in some days ... 00:57 < rxr_xchat> tsa: sure ;-) 00:57 < hackbard> rxr_xchat: that would i explain why i couldnt rsync today .. 00:57 < esden> rxr_xchat: cool !!! 00:57 < hackbard> - i 00:58 < tsa> rxr_xchat: hm..ok 00:59 < rxr_xchat> hackbard: today we had no electrcal power here - sicne the haupt-verteilung got replaced ... 01:00 < rxr_xchat> and now I have problems with this q-dsl fluff ... 01:00 < tsa> https://www2.rocklinux.de/bann-butt/pic007.jpg use this banner? 01:00 < rxr_xchat> tsa: so what kind of posters should we do for LinuxTag ? 01:00 < rxr_xchat> Only a big one or also hand-out cards (whatever) ... 01:00 < huebi> tsa: no titties ;( 01:01 < tsa> rxr_xchat: the old thingie looks good to use for handout stuff, although i'd suggest using another font for the headline. 01:01 < tsa> huebi: you don't have titties, either ;) 01:01 < rxr_xchat> tsa: I like the headline ... 01:01 < esden> argh I hate my stupidity ... 01:01 < tsa> esden: no comment.. 01:02 < rxr_xchat> esden: when you might like to get more troubles you can try to cross build dietlibc stuff - this does not work ... 01:02 < tsa> rxr_xchat: ok. so this will do for a handout, after dates and locations have been changed. 01:02 < rxr_xchat> esden: but I can sort this one out, too. 01:02 < tsa> we still need somthing to put up in the booth.. 01:02 < tsa> +e 01:02 < rxr_xchat> tsa: jups. 01:03 < rxr_xchat> I would like some diagram illustating the overall-build system with the usual meta-dist, auto-build, portable words ... 01:03 * tsa using recursive algorithm. 01:03 < tsa> poster = text + pic. 01:04 * tsa havink split up problem 01:04 < tsa> still need text, though. 01:04 < tsa> and pic. 01:04 < rxr_xchat> tsa: maybe some pics from https://www.rocklinux.org/people/jocelyn/publications/sane2002.pdf 01:04 < rxr_xchat> although we should rework it ... 01:05 < tsa> ah, this one. 01:06 < esden> yess !!! IT IS BUILDING *jump* 01:06 < tsa> the text is pretty good, i guess. 01:06 < tsa> i don't really like the pic on the second page, but don't have a better one. 01:06 < rxr_xchat> esden: what is building ? 01:07 < esden> I forgot that the gcc that is built using dietlibc hates the -pipe switch ... do not ask my why ... 01:07 < rxr_xchat> tsa: yes this pic should be reworked ... 01:07 < esden> I had no time to debug the problem 01:07 < rxr_xchat> tsa: it is no problems to arrange s.th. I have 2 scanners and a graphic tablet here ... 01:07 < d3mian> cu guys 01:07 < rxr_xchat> bye d3mian 01:07 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has left #rocklinux () 01:07 < esden> hmm ... :-( 01:07 < esden> it started building .. 01:08 < esden> but not finished .. 01:08 < esden> but I am one step further ... 01:08 < esden> rxr_xchat: I am currently here: 01:08 < esden> == 00:06:40 =[2]=> Building base/gcc2 [2.95.3 1.7.0-DEV-200205151839]. 01:08 < tsa> rxr_xchat: perhaps a tree showing rock/x86 as root node, with leaves being drock/x86, the several other subdists and ports. 01:08 < esden> == 05/24/02 00:08:58 =[2]=> Aborted building package gcc2. 01:09 < rxr_xchat> ieek 01:09 < rxr_xchat> the doc got created by: 01:09 < rxr_xchat> ./Producer (Acrobat Distiller 4.0 for Windows) 01:09 < tsa> oh-oh 01:09 < tsa> hehe 01:09 < rxr_xchat> I feared s.th. like this. 01:10 < esden> binutils are building finally that is really good ... but this is only one packet in stage 2 till now ... :-( 01:11 < rxr_xchat> tsa: such a tree would now explain much - and would be rather overloaded by all the different $rockver/$arch possiblilities ... 01:11 < rxr_xchat> I would find illustrating the build system more interesting ... 01:12 < esden> we should show the flexibility and power of rock on the poster 01:12 < hackbard> rxr_xchat: is it bad to not copy over libgcc1.a for creating the crossgcc? it built just fine. 01:12 < esden> and the near to source code of rock 01:13 < rxr_xchat> hackbard: You ask because I commented this out in my tree ? 01:13 < hackbard> huebi wanted to try to generate a poster of the rock scripts ... maybe he did succeed 01:13 < hackbard> rxr_xchat: oh, building origin tree now, as ur efforts get merged according to CHANGELOG 01:14 < rxr_xchat> hackbard: so did you commented this libgcc1.a copy out ? 01:15 < hackbard> well, yes, i did : [ -f arch... ] && cp arch... 01:15 < rxr_xchat> I did so here - because I do not know for what it is needed ... 01:15 < hackbard> okay! 01:15 < rxr_xchat> hackbard: ah ok - should ont hurd (I think) 01:16 < hackbard> so you now know what it is ofr? 01:16 < hackbard> for even .. 01:16 < rxr_xchat> hackbard: no I can not imagine for what it is needed - and sparc64 builds without it ... 01:17 < rxr_xchat> tsa: hello? 01:17 < tsa> yes. 01:17 < hackbard> okay! thanks 01:17 < tsa> https://www.jaenicke.org/rock/rock-diagram.png 01:17 < tsa> (just a quick hack) 01:18 < rxr_xchat> I would not put x86 into some root ... 01:18 < rxr_xchat> bin mal kutz XFree restarten .. 01:18 -!- rxr_xchat [~rene@port-212-202-173-94.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:21 < hackbard> ripclaw hat mal nen coolen stz inner mail abgelassen, der sagt eigentlich alles ueber rock .. mom 01:22 < hackbard> <zitat> 01:22 < hackbard> ausserdem gilt fuer rock und debian das david und goliath anxiom: 01:22 < hackbard> klein, wendig, fies. 01:22 < hackbard> </zitat> 01:22 < hackbard> :) 01:22 -!- rxr_xchat [~rene@port-212-202-173-94.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:22 < rxr_xchat> re 01:22 < tsa> hm...klingt nicht schlecht. aber wir sollten debian da rausnehmen. 01:22 < tsa> rxr_xchat: 01:22 < tsa> <hackbard> <zitat> 01:22 < tsa> <hackbard> ausserdem gilt fuer rock und debian das david und goliath anxiom: 01:22 < tsa> <hackbard> klein, wendig, fies. 01:22 < tsa> <hackbard> </zitat> 01:23 < hackbard> und unten als anmerkung: tja, bei suse wachsen jedenfalls keine cliffords auf den servern 01:23 < hackbard> hehe 01:24 < hackbard> btw, das mit den anxiom verstehe ich aber nicht ganz .. ;) 01:25 < esden> man kann da solaris reinstellen oder so ... 01:25 < rxr_xchat> shit need to restart X11 my tables sucks ... 01:25 < esden> anstatt debian ... 01:25 -!- rxr_xchat [~rene@port-212-202-173-94.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Client Quit) 01:26 < tsa> ja, klingt nach ner idee. 01:26 < tsa> debian muss da weg. 01:27 < hackbard> ach was, lass uns provozieren :-D 01:27 < tsa> hehe 01:27 < esden> ja ... dass auf jeden fall ... 01:27 < esden> hackbard: schoen und gut ... 01:27 < tsa> rock linux - built to beat HP-SolIrix 01:27 < tsa> ;) 01:27 < hackbard> hehe 01:28 < esden> aber wir sind soweit ich weiss wand an wand ... mit debian am lt 01:28 < hackbard> LOL 01:28 < hackbard> okay, ueberredet 01:28 < tsa> hm...wir koennen ja deren poster aufhaengen und die dann unsere... ;) 01:28 < esden> ausserdem .. die debian leute waren sehr hilfreich am lt letztes jahr was meine probleme anging mit alpha ... 01:28 < hackbard> hihi 01:29 -!- rene [~rene@port-212-202-173-94.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:29 < rene> so 01:29 < hackbard> cool, dei fareg ich gleich mal wieso die ab 2.4 nur noch initrd kernels machen .. 01:29 < tsa> rene: 01:29 < hackbard> re rene 01:29 < tsa> rock linux - built to beat HP-SolIrix 01:30 < tsa> could have some copyright implications.. 01:30 < esden> rene: was bastelst du ? 01:30 < esden> tsa: some ... yes ;-) 01:30 < rene> esden: Mein grafik tablet under X ... 01:31 < esden> rene: asooo 01:31 < rene> ist aber nicht soo toll zum skizzieren wie ich dachte ... 01:31 < esden> rene: echt ? 01:31 < esden> rene: ich habe es mal ausprobiert ... ich fand es geil 01:32 < rene> ne sieht voll scheiße aus, wenn man schnell was skizziert ... 01:32 < tsa> hehe- 01:32 * -> esden kein grafiker :-( 01:33 * tsa auch nich 01:33 * rene halb ... 01:33 < rene> hab aber lange das tablet nicht benutzt - und noch nie fuer skizzen ... 01:34 < rene> man das sieht ja aus als ob ich nicht schreiben koentne ... 01:34 < tsa> lol 01:34 < esden> rene: vielleicht zu sensibel eingestellt ? 01:35 < rene> esden: soll ich X nochmal restarten ? 01:36 < esden> rene: wenn der restart meiner und anderer chatter gesundheit gefaerden sollte dann nicht ;-) 01:36 < tsa> rene: das hier find ich recht cool: 01:36 < tsa> https://www2.rocklinux.de/bann-butt/pic006.jpg 01:36 < tsa> das waere IMHO poster-kandidat.. 01:37 < rene> hehe 01:37 < tsa> kurzer praegnanter satz, nen bissel bunt dazu. 01:37 < tsa> passt. 01:38 < rene> but on the linuxtag many people will know linux anyway - so I do not know if such switch to linux poster is what we need ... 01:41 < tsa> what do we want - funny stuff to attract or tech stuff to explain 01:41 < tsa> https://www.jaenicke.org/pics/1862.jpg <- with s,beer,rock linux, 01:43 < rene> you are tight - maybe the funny stuff is a good idea ;-) 01:44 < tsa> we'll need both things. 01:44 < tsa> i've someone would do a diagram of the build scripts, that would help a lot. 01:45 < tsa> some text can be taken from old stuff. 01:45 < rene> tsa: do you mean a detaild diagram that would help ROCK developers (I think this would be uite impossible to comer many details in it ...) or a pseudeo digram showing the important parts of it ? 01:46 * rene restarting X 01:46 -!- rene [~rene@port-212-202-173-94.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:49 < esden> and replace the date with 1998 or so ... 01:49 < esden> then the poster is prefect ... 01:53 < tsa> ack 01:54 < esden> or better "ROCKLinux" "Helping ugly sysadmins have sex since 1998!" 01:55 -!- rene [~rene@port-212-202-173-94.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:55 < tsa> hehe 01:55 < tsa> re rene 01:55 < esden> or "ROCKLinux" "Helping sysadmins have sex since 1998!" 01:55 < hackbard> https://www.hackdaworld.dyndns.org/pics/rock-lt-1try.jpg 01:55 -!- rene is now known as rxr_xchat 01:55 < tsa> rene: just the most important stuff of the build system. we don't want the people to become rock developers, they just should get a rough idea how rock stuff works 01:55 < hackbard> meiner esrten gimp versuche :-D 01:56 < rxr_xchat> hackbard: looks great ;-) 01:56 < hackbard> hehe :p 01:56 < esden> hackbard: not life ... enjoy sun .. 01:56 < esden> and not graveyardshifts 01:57 < tsa> https://www.jaenicke.org/pics/stressred.gif <-- we could give this to the SuSE people.. 01:58 < rxr_xchat> *lol* 01:58 < esden> "take the cd in the circle" (und da sind rock rohlinge in dem ring ...) 01:59 * -> esden labert langsam schrott ... 01:59 < rxr_xchat> https://212.202.173.94/rene/files/rock-scatch.jpg 01:59 < rxr_xchat> warnung: grobe skizze !!! 02:00 < rxr_xchat> muss noch ordentlich und bunt werden ... 02:01 < tsa> ack. 02:01 < hackbard> jo, hat was. 02:01 < esden> rxr_xchat: gut gefaellt mir ... (von der idee halt) 02:01 < tsa> idee gut. 02:01 < tsa> schrift verbesserungsfaehig ;) 02:01 < rxr_xchat> hey ich kann schreiben - das talbet suckt nur so extrem 02:01 < hackbard> hehe 02:01 < rxr_xchat> ist 5 jahre alt oder so ... 02:03 < rxr_xchat> ok was soll noch rein ? 02:03 < tsa> die subdists 02:04 < hackbard> hmm, wird das nich soviel 02:04 < hackbard> so is doch gut, oder? 02:04 < hackbard> ausserdem, welche subdists? *g 02:05 < tsa> read-only, router, .. 02:05 < hackbard> und die lassen sich vernuenftig erstellen? im 1.5 / 1.7 ? 02:06 < rxr_xchat> in 17 gibt es die gerade nicht mehr ... 02:06 < tsa> derzeit - keine ahnung...ich habe vor 4 monaten oder so mal mit 1.5 nen read-only system gebaut. 02:06 < tsa> das war stressfrei. 02:06 < tsa> bei 1.7 entfallen die afaik 02:06 -!- Netsplit tenn.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: clifford_away 02:07 -!- Netsplit over, joins: clifford_away 02:07 < rxr_xchat> in 1.7 werden wir aber nen richtiges live CD system bekommen ... 02:07 < hackbard> also ich wuerde es so lassen 02:07 < tsa> live cd system? 02:08 < hackbard> sogar die schrift - kommt eigentlich schon cool! 02:08 < hackbard> vielleicht ein _bisschen_ sauberer 02:08 < hackbard> und dann noch irgendwas ... nur was .. ?!? 02:11 < tsa> hm... 02:14 < tsa> irgendwie bin ich ueberhaupt nicht kreativ. 02:18 < esden> wollt ihr diagramm fuer 1.5 oder 1.7 machen ? 02:18 < tsa> 1.7 02:18 < tsa> imho. 02:19 < esden> wenn 1.7 dann gibt es keine subdists sondern targets 02:20 < tsa> auch ok 02:20 < tsa> ist der Rest eingeschlafen? 02:20 < rxr_xchat> ne male 02:20 < esden> und mommentan gibt es nur 3 funktionierende (wenn man dass so nennen will) oder besser 2 wenn man den dependancy target rauslaesst 02:21 < tsa> rxr_xchat: achso...ok 02:21 < hackbard> generic und? 02:21 < tsa> esden: naja, das ist ja erweiterbar.. 02:21 < hackbard> aüpropos, wie mache ich targets? 02:22 < esden> tsa: sicher ... was glaubst du was ich gerade mache ;-) 02:22 < hackbard> ich guck mal 02:22 < tsa> esden: die dietlibc vergewaltigen, vermutliche .. 02:22 < tsa> -e 02:23 < tsa> hackbard: target/* 02:23 < rxr_xchat> tsa: schau dir mal das jpg an ... 02:24 < esden> tsa: du hast es zwar sehr dezent ausgedrueckt aber deine aussage ist im ansatz richtig ;-) 02:24 < tsa> esden: hehe 02:24 < tsa> rxr_xchat: Jupp! Das gefaellt mir echt gut. 02:25 < tsa> btw...deine handschrift mit dem gfx-tablett sieht aus, als haettest du grad nen kilo koks gefressen ;-) 02:26 < rxr_xchat> ..*LLOOLL** 02:26 < tsa> ;-) 02:26 < rxr_xchat> ich kann das ja mal auf papier malen und einscannen ;-) Dann sieht das gleich 2000% besser aus ... 02:26 < esden> tja rxr_xchat jetzt ist es raus ... 02:26 < tsa> jaja, ist schon klar. war auch nur eine spontane assoziation... 02:27 < tsa> dass das spaeter nochmal durch gimp oder dia oder so muss, ist mir auch selber klar ;) 02:27 < rxr_xchat> tsa: das kommt aus gimp ... 02:27 < tsa> gimp will hier derzeit grad nicht bauen, die gnome2-integration ist schon zu weit.. 02:28 < tsa> rxr_xchat: hm...auch gut ;) 02:28 < tsa> (meckert ueber glib-prefix und pkg-config krams) 02:28 < tsa> naja, egal. 02:28 < rxr_xchat> hae ? 02:29 < tsa> moment.. 02:29 < tsa> # ./scripts/Build-Pkg gimp 02:29 < rxr_xchat> updated 02:29 < tsa> > checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... no 02:29 < tsa> > *** A new enough version of pkg-config was not found. 02:29 < tsa> > *** See https://www.freedesktop.org/software/pkgconfig/ 02:29 < tsa> > configure: error: Test for GLIB failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for h .. 02:29 < tsa> > Command returned exit status 1. 02:29 < tsa> $root/var/adm/logs/9-gimp.out -> 9-gimp.err 02:30 < tsa> glib 1.2.10 02:30 < rxr_xchat> tihs is gimp 1.3.x and needs glib-2 gtk+2 ... did# you installed them ? 02:30 < tsa> noe, bisher nicht. 02:31 < hackbard> jo, glib hatte bei mir auch nen error (vor kurzem) 02:31 < tsa> ich will mir das system nicht unbedingt gleich zerschiessen.. 02:31 < rxr_xchat> tsa: ja dann warte noch mal nen paar tage bis gnome2 in rock komplett tut b... 02:31 < hackbard> bist du nicht im chroot? 02:32 < tsa> hackbard: noe, ich bau seit ewigkeiten immer einzelne packages...klappt prima. 02:32 < tsa> seit ewigkeiten = seit 1.4.0 02:32 < hackbard> cool, kann ich binutils gefahrlos updaten? 02:32 < tsa> binutils 2.12.90.0.1 1.7.0-DEV-200203272252 02:32 < tsa> sieht so aus. 02:33 < rxr_xchat> binutils ja 02:33 < hackbard> cool, dann kann ich ja endlich gcc31 native bauen :) 02:33 < rxr_xchat> das einzig gefährliche ist glibc - aber das tut in 1.7 jetzt auch (laut Cliff ...)# 02:33 < tsa> hm.. 02:33 < rxr_xchat> tsa: das poster so ungefähr, nur in sauber ;-)? 02:33 < tsa> rxr_xchat: jupp. definitiv. 02:34 < tsa> glibc-update mit scripts/Build-Pkg? neeee.. 02:34 < tsa> das hatte ich doch gemacht. 02:34 < tsa> ergebnis - alte headerfiles. 02:35 < rxr_xchat> ja, war aber nur schlimm, weil glibc-2.1 nach 2.2 keien DB mehr hat ... 02:35 < rxr_xchat> minor updates sind unprobelmatisch 02:35 < tsa> jupp. 02:35 < tsa> 2.1.x -> 2.2.x gibt stress, 2.1.x -> 2.1.x oder 2.2.x -> 2.2.x sollte stressfrei laufen 02:36 < rxr_xchat> tsa: mehr poster moregen abend ? 02:36 < tsa> ok. 02:36 < tsa> dann sind wir vielleicht auch wieder kreativer.. 02:37 < tsa> btw.. 02:37 < tsa> gnome2 prefix in scripts/Config 02:37 < tsa> steht per default auf "opt/gnome2" 02:37 < rxr_xchat> ich werde jetzt noch nen bissel java hacken ... 02:37 < tsa> muss da nicht noch nen "/" davor? 02:37 < esden> rxr_xchat: in more to came archinectures kuenntest welche auffueheren (PA-RISC zb) 02:38 < rxr_xchat> tsa: nein - da kommt entweder noch $root/ oder nur / davor ... 02:38 < esden> und mips ist ner der crossbuild mueglich oder mehr ? 02:38 < tsa> rxr_xchat: achso...dann ist das ja doch ok. 02:38 < tsa> rxr_xchat: hast du eigentlich zugriff auf Documentation/TEAM? 02:38 * tsa will da auch mal mit rein ;) 02:39 < rxr_xchat> tsa: einfach mail an cliff - und es sollte im naechsten snap drin sein ... 02:39 < tsa> rxr_xchat: 02:39 < tsa> ack. 02:39 < tsa> N: Martin Sieper 02:39 < tsa> N: Drew Metz 02:39 < tsa> hm... 02:39 < tsa> who is this? 02:40 < rxr_xchat> tsa: dont't know ;-) 02:40 < tsa> esden is missing, too. 02:40 < tsa> hackbard too 02:40 * -> esden is small and Documentation/TEAM unworthy 02:41 < tsa> esden: strong NACK. 02:41 < esden> lol 02:41 < tsa> you have to be in there. someone has to be responsible for dietlibc stuff. ;) 02:42 < esden> nonono do not include me there ... I will get killed for abusing dietlibc so much ;-0 02:42 < tsa> hahahaha 02:43 < esden> this is not funny 02:43 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816DC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:43 < esden> I am really scared to the bones 02:44 < esden> to the bare bones 02:44 * tsa laughing. 02:44 < rxr_xchat> tsa ich schreibe im zoom gerade mal die schrift neu 02:44 < rxr_xchat> schau dir mal die archs an ;-) 02:44 < tsa> esden: at least you have a good reason to make a nice dietlibc target now.. 02:44 < tsa> ;) 02:44 < tsa> rxr_xchat: ok.. 02:45 < rxr_xchat> so sieht das ja bald wirklich ganz ok aus ;-) 02:45 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 02:45 < esden> tsa: yes I have ...;-) 02:45 < esden> rxr_xchat: looks good 02:45 < tsa> rxr_xchat: x86-64 should be "IA-64" 02:46 < SMP> erm. no 02:46 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 02:46 < tsa> and base - linux should perhaps get "(kernel)" 02:46 < tsa> SMP: hm? 02:47 < esden> tsa IA-64 != x86-64 02:47 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has quit (Client Quit) 02:47 < rxr_xchat> tsa: no there is a difference 02:47 < tsa> where's the difference? 02:47 < tsa> ia = intel only? 02:47 < rxr_xchat> IA-64 => Intel Intanium stuff 02:47 < tsa> ia = intel assholes? 02:47 < SMP> tsa: where have you been living that last year?! 02:47 < esden> ia-64 incompatible to x86 processors 02:47 < rxr_xchat> x86-64 => AMD Hammer fluff 02:47 < tsa> ah, ok. 02:48 < tsa> SMP: i'm not sure if i actually do live at all.. ;) 02:48 < tsa> can anyone prove my existence? ;) 02:49 < ringo78> Though typest so though art, unless though are a bot ! 02:49 < tsa> hahaha 02:50 < tsa> ok, i'll go to get myself some sleep, anyway. 02:50 < tsa> have fun, everybody. 02:50 < esden> n8 tsa 02:50 < tsa> we'll talk tomorrow and hopefully finish the poster stuff. 02:50 < tsa> n8 * 02:51 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E110A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*schnarch*") 02:58 < esden> n8 * 03:03 < ringo78> Anybody have some expirience with Python + TCL/TK (Need it for fetchmail config util)? 03:04 < ringo78> n8 esden !! 03:04 < SMP> *yuck* Tk 03:05 < ringo78> Whats wrong with Tk ? 03:06 < SMP> it looks awkful 03:06 < SMP> anyway you'd rather want to find a native Python interface to Tk and not use TCL 03:06 < SMP> or use Gtk ;) 03:08 < ringo78> OK, thanks ! 03:10 -!- hackbard_ [~hackbard@p50807C7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:10 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50807C7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:10 < SMP> I think Glade works with Python 03:12 < ringo78> I just installe TCL and TCK but get a messie _tkinter not found. But I'll look @ all the possibilities ! 03:16 < huebi> n8 03:16 < huebi> n8 03:17 < hackbard_> jau, n8 03:17 < hackbard_> me too 03:17 -!- hackbard_ is now known as hack^a^^ 03:40 < rxr_xchat> new version online 03:53 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@xs1.xs4all.nl] has quit ("leaving") 03:56 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@pD9E4D4DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:14 < rxr_xchat> und noch nen update 04:14 < rxr_xchat> n8 04:14 -!- rxr_xchat [~rene@port-212-202-173-94.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 05:18 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@pD9E4D5A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:31 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 05:37 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has quit ("BitchX: made with real honey.") 07:51 -!- rxr [~rene@port-213-20-228-97.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:51 < rxr> re 08:01 < huebi> moin rxr ;-) 08:04 < huebi> off to work... 08:22 < rxr> huebi: Moin! 08:22 < rxr> Hasst du schoen den Rolling ROCK text? Ich habe gerade den dRock text vorgeschrieben ... 08:22 < rxr> cu am Nachmittag :-) 08:30 -!- surprise [kdlcjc@greencard.inder.eu.org] has quit (Connection timed out) 08:53 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@62.46.0.174] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:54 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M120P009.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 08:55 -!- fd0 [~dutch@cust.92.169.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #rocklinux 08:56 < fd0> god morning 08:56 < fd0> +o 09:00 -!- fd0 [~dutch@cust.92.169.adsl.cistron.nl] has quit ("hmmm, connection broken. Bye") 09:01 -!- fd0 [~fd0@cust.92.169.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #rocklinux 09:01 < capchaos> morning fd0 09:02 < fd0> morning again :) 09:03 < capchaos> need s.th. to laugh: https://communities.msn.com/LinuxFreaks/home.htm 09:04 < fd0> who would want an msn community for non ms stuff :)) 09:31 < capchaos> dunno 09:44 < praenti> moin 09:45 < praenti> rxr: da? 10:37 -!- fd0 is now known as fd0-afk 10:38 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:38 < bluefire> Moin 10:56 < huebi> Moep! 11:00 < rxr> re 11:00 < rxr> jups praenti 11:01 < huebi> hi rxr 11:08 < rxr> hi huebi 11:08 < rxr> drocklinux.dyndns.org/rene/files/rock-scatch.jpg 11:08 < rxr> maybe someone has some ideas for this poster :-) 11:13 < th> re und guten morgen 11:13 < rxr> ok I'm off to FH - cu 11:13 < rxr> hi und bye th :-) 11:13 < th> later rxr 11:26 < huebi> moin th ;-) 11:29 -!- term_emu [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:30 < huebi> hi term_emu 11:34 < huebi> th: Die Java Stations stehen fertig bereit zum Abholen. 11:34 < th> huebi: genial 11:35 < huebi> Jetzt muss ich mir nur noch ein Auto organisieren und dann kann ich sie zwischen 13h00 und 16h00 abholen. 11:36 < th> wo ist das denn? 11:36 < huebi> In Darmstadt Arheiligen. 11:37 < th> ahja 11:38 < th> bringst ja dann beide mit nach KA damit sie fuer mich in WR zum abholen liegen 11:39 < huebi> th: Geht auf jeden Fall klar. ;-) 11:50 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:50 < holyolli> moin 11:53 < huebi> hi holyolli. Wie hoeren sich eigendlich Elche an? ;-) 11:53 < holyolli> moin huebi... 11:53 < holyolli> *hm* lustig 11:53 < holyolli> ;) 11:53 < holyolli> sie röhren 11:54 < huebi> MuuuhhhELlchchch? 11:54 < holyolli> (wenn man das so nennen kann) 11:54 < holyolli> *lol* 11:54 < huebi> So wie ruelpsen? Nur laenger und lauter? 11:54 < huebi> ;-) 11:55 < holyolli> jo 11:55 < holyolli> in etwa 11:55 < holyolli> ;)= 11:56 < holyolli> ach huebi...wo hattest du eigendlich diese lc-displays bestellt? 11:56 -!- hack^a^^ is now known as hackbard 11:56 < hackbard> moin 11:57 < holyolli> moin hackbard 12:03 < huebi> holyolli: Bei einer vieel zu teuren Fa. in Muenchen oder so. Wenn du welche brauchst, sag bescheid. Ich will noch mal welche ueber einen Freund bestellen. 12:03 < huebi> hi hackbard 12:06 -!- capchaos is now known as sexy 12:07 < holyolli> huebi: ich braucht eigendilch nur eins... ;) 12:08 -!- sexy [~capchaos@pD9048563.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 12:14 < huebi> holyolli: Eins habe ich noch, das kannst du direkt haben. Ich muss zuhause nur noch mal den Preis nachsehen. Der war,IIRC 30-35 EUR 12:16 < hackbard> ich idiot ... das schaut nach neuinstallation aus ;( 12:17 < hackbard> nicht zu frueh am morgen mit root hantieren .. 12:17 < huebi> hackbard: Mein Beileid. ;( 12:18 < hackbard> 1.7 hinterlaesst bei mir immer im mount ewig viele eintraege, dei nichtmehr existieren 12:19 < hackbard> und ich wollte was dgagen tun *g 12:19 < hackbard> naja, scheisse 12:22 -!- hack^a^^ [~hackbard@p50807C7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:22 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p50807C7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("...") 12:33 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:37 -!- fd0-afk is now known as fd0 12:40 < th> so. wochenende ruft. 12:40 < th> auf zum lieblings motos ;) 12:41 -!- th [th@rocklinux.de] has quit ("weg") 12:44 -!- fd0 is now known as fd0-afk 12:59 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:05 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh 13:08 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:16 < esden> morning 13:17 < esden> is rxr somewhere around ? 13:25 -!- max__ [~max@pD9048428.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:27 -!- maximus [~max@pD904857B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:58 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 13:58 < armijn> re 14:06 -!- max__ [~max@pD9048428.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:11 -!- fd0-afk is now known as fd0 14:11 < fd0> yo 14:11 < armijn> yo 14:23 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048563.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:38 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048563.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 14:38 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:50 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 15:21 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:23 < netcrow> esden: here? 15:23 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 15:27 < huebi> re 15:27 < huebi> Now, I've got 3 Java Station "Krups" 15:29 < huebi> really looking kool *g* 15:29 * huebi is searching a screw driver... 15:39 -!- fd0 [~fd0@cust.92.169.adsl.cistron.nl] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:41 -!- fd0 [~fd0@cust.92.169.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #rocklinux 15:44 < esden> netcrow: I am here ... 15:44 < huebi> hi esden 15:44 * -> esden away: duschen 15:44 < esden> hi huebi 15:54 < netcrow> showercam.esden.net - only 5 $ per minute 15:57 < huebi> 15:57 < huebi> Pleas insert coin! 15:57 < huebi> _ 15:57 < huebi> | | 15:57 < huebi> | | 15:57 < huebi> | | 15:57 < huebi> | | 15:57 < huebi> | | 15:57 < huebi> - 15:57 < huebi> 15:58 < netcrow> *lol* 16:11 < rxr> re 16:17 < huebi> hi rene 16:17 < rxr> hi huebi 16:17 * rxr mal wieder wech ... 16:19 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 16:19 < armijn> re 16:22 < fd0> re 16:23 < armijn> huebi: awake? 16:23 < armijn> huebi: still no mention of 1.5.15 on the ROCK website... 16:26 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:26 < armijn> and I hate that 16:50 -!- uninvited [uninvited@pD9590D5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ROCKLINUX 16:50 < uninvited> Haaaaaaaallo ! Heeeeeeeeello ! 16:52 < netcrow> *duck* 16:53 < huebi> re armijn 16:54 < huebi> You mean on www.rocklinux.net? 16:54 < armijn> no 16:54 < armijn> on rocklinux.org 16:55 < huebi> armijn: That should be cliffords job. I'll update my area tonight on .org 16:57 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M120P009.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:58 < armijn> where's your area? 16:59 < huebi> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/huebi/rock16/ 16:59 < huebi> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/huebi/ 16:59 < armijn> ok 16:59 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M081P005.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 17:00 < huebi> I must rewrite all that stuff. It's rather outdated. 17:00 < armijn> yes it is 17:00 < armijn> but on the frontpage if rocklinux.org it still says 1.5.12 17:01 < huebi> armijn: If I have a good summary on my page Clifford can update the frontpage. 17:01 < huebi> But now I leave. I have to test the Java Stations ;-) 17:01 < armijn> and all the stuff needs to be mirrored before we send out an announcement to LWN 17:02 < armijn> JavaStations! 17:02 < huebi> Yes. Three Krups 17:02 < armijn> whooho! 17:02 < armijn> great 17:02 < huebi> armijn: Do you want to have one, too? 17:02 < armijn> depends 17:02 < armijn> for how much? 17:04 < huebi> 64MB RAM / 8MB Flash RAM + DE or UK Keyboard + mouse + powersupply for 116 EUR + shipping 17:04 < armijn> 116 EUR? 17:04 < huebi> Yesz 17:04 < armijn> nah, already got a Krupps :) 17:04 < huebi> ah, ok 17:04 < armijn> but thanks for the offer :) 17:04 < armijn> 116 EUR, that's not too much actually 17:04 < armijn> nice deal 17:04 < armijn> but go and test them! 17:05 < huebi> Yes. I bought them at Livingston 17:05 < huebi> th gets two of them. 17:05 < armijn> nice 17:11 < huebi> I updated mozilla to 1.0rc3 17:11 < armijn> kewl 17:12 < armijn> whee! 17:12 < huebi> I just test the new patches and if it compiles. 17:12 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 17:12 < d3mian> hi 17:13 < huebi> hi d3mian. Good morning 17:13 < huebi> ;-) 17:13 < d3mian> thanx huebi ;-) 17:13 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9522FF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:14 -!- fd0 [~fd0@cust.92.169.adsl.cistron.nl] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:14 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9522FF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 17:15 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9522FF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:20 < huebi> cu later 17:20 < armijn> cu 17:22 < d3mian> cu 17:23 < bluefire> re 17:25 < bluefire> So'n Shit... jetzt stört das dämliche DECT auch noch meine Funktastatur. 17:32 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("leaving") 17:33 < armijn> I'm off 17:33 < armijn> cu 17:33 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 18:02 < huebi> re\ 18:03 < d3mian> wb huebi 18:43 < d3mian> culater 18:44 < huebi> cu d3mian 18:44 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has quit ("[BX] Occifer, I'm not as think as you stoned I am!") 18:46 -!- simon_- [~simon@pD951EDE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:53 -!- rxr [~rene@port-213-20-228-97.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:00 -!- uninvited [uninvited@pD9590D5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:00 -!- simon_ [~simon@p508748FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:00 -!- simon_- is now known as simon_ 19:00 -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:00 < blindcoder> hi everyone 19:07 -!- dutchmale [~fd0@cust.91.58.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #rocklinux 19:07 -!- dutchmale is now known as fd0 19:09 -!- fd0 [~fd0@cust.91.58.adsl.cistron.nl] has left #rocklinux () 19:15 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 19:17 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E11E9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:17 < tsa> moin 19:17 < d3mian> hi tsa 19:18 < tsa> hi d3mian 19:19 < tsa> everybody else asleep? 19:21 < tsa> hm.. 19:24 < blindcoder> almost ;) 19:25 < blindcoder> hi d3mian, tsa 19:25 < tsa> hehe 19:25 < tsa> hi blindcoder 19:25 < tsa> so it's at least three people awake ;-) 19:25 < huebi> hi tsa 19:26 < tsa> oh 19:26 < tsa> hi huebi 19:26 < blindcoder> hi huebi 19:26 < huebi> hi blindcoder 19:27 < huebi> neues Spielzeug: 19:27 < huebi> 19:27 < huebi> JavaStation 19:27 < huebi> OpenBoot 3.12.FW14, 64 MB memory installed, Serial #9785097. 19:27 < huebi> Ethernet address 08:00:20:95:4f:09, Host ID: 80954f09. 19:27 < huebi> 19:27 < huebi> ;-) 19:27 < tsa> nice. 19:27 < tsa> expensive? 19:27 < huebi> 116 EUR 19:27 < tsa> hm...sounds ok, i guess. 19:27 < tsa> > > I deleted a bunch of useless files in /lib, and now the system's stopped 19:27 < tsa> > > working! SOLARIS SUCKS!!!!>!!!@! 19:28 < huebi> armijn said so 19:28 < tsa> hahaha. 19:28 < huebi> tsa: *lol* 19:28 < tsa> Group: comp.unix.solaris 19:28 < d3mian> brb 19:28 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has quit ("BitchX: the original point-and-click interface.") 19:28 < tsa> some people really should stay with windoze. 19:28 -!- d3m|an [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 19:28 < tsa> re d3m|an 19:28 < d3m|an> :) 19:28 -!- d3m|an is now known as d3mian 19:30 < huebi> tsa: No. They should get back the abacus. 19:30 < tsa> hehe - nice idea. 19:41 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:42 < tsa> hi sockmonk 19:42 < d3mian> hi sockmonk 19:45 < tsa> ok, i'm gone for a while, trying to get the scsi controller working in the u10 and probably reinstalling.. 19:45 < tsa> cu 19:45 < d3mian> cu later tsa 19:45 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E11E9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 19:45 < d3mian> i go too 19:45 -!- d3mian is now known as d3m|away 19:48 < sockmonk> hi everyone 19:52 -!- d3m|away [~demian@208.165.55.137] has quit ("asdf") 20:19 -!- mjvh [~jonathonf@24.42.113.159] has joined #rocklinux 20:19 -!- mjvh [~jonathonf@24.42.113.159] has left #rocklinux () 20:21 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has left #rocklinux () 20:27 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048506.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:27 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 20:27 < Mike1> Hi 20:27 < capchaos> moin 20:27 < Mike1> hi there capchaos 20:28 < capchaos> today is the worst day of the weekend.. 20:28 < capchaos> ;-) 20:28 < Mike1> ? 20:32 < huebi> hi Miguel ;-) 20:32 < huebi> I got the JavaStations. kool fun stuff. 20:33 < huebi> no Im of to the pub. I'm meeting with the Linux User Group in this town ;-) 20:33 < Mike1> huebi hi, have fun 20:34 < huebi> Mike1: Thank you! I'll have good fun. cu later 20:59 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ("[BX] We are BitchX of Borg. You will be assimilated. Using ircII is futile.") 21:12 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:12 < holyolli> moin 21:12 < capchaos> hi holyolli 21:13 < holyolli> hi capchaos 21:45 -!- uninvited [uninvited@p50802C7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ROCKLINUX 21:45 < uninvited> hello ! 21:46 < capchaos> hi uninvited 21:48 < capchaos> could anyone show me an example of smbmount command? 21:55 < uninvited> Can someone help me with a telnet question ? 21:56 < uninvited> Is there a way to send commands with a telnet command ? e.g.: telnet 192.168.0.254 --password abc123 ? 21:56 < uninvited> Or like that ? 21:56 < holyolli> uninvited: moin erstmal... 21:56 < holyolli> what is your problem? 21:57 < holyolli> do want to enter a password interactively? 21:57 < uninvited> Ich hab nen Hardwarerouter (<-- ist nicht das Problem) und beim Einloggen muss ich jedes Mal PW eingeben. 21:57 < uninvited> Ich würde den Router gerne "steuern". 21:57 < holyolli> ne cisco? 21:57 < uninvited> Neee. 21:58 < uninvited> Ist zu Hause fuers Heim-LAN 21:58 < holyolli> ha 21:58 < uninvited> ist n NETGEAR RT311 21:58 < holyolli> also prinzipiell kannst du das mit expect machen 21:58 < holyolli> und dann per script steuern 21:58 < holyolli> also expect erwartet halt eine zeichenkette und du kannst dann mit "send" was senden 21:59 < uninvited> expect ? 21:59 < uninvited> erzähl. 21:59 < holyolli> vom prinzip her irgendwie so: ' expect "Password:" send "geheim" 21:59 < uninvited> geht das auch unter WIn32 ? 21:59 < holyolli> hm 21:59 < holyolli> wahrscheinlich nicht, aber da gibts telnetprogramme, die sowas schon eingebaut haben 22:00 < uninvited> Hast du ein Beispiel fuer ein solchiges ? 22:00 < holyolli> telnetprogramm? 22:01 < holyolli> ich weiss nich, ob putty das vieleicht kann 22:01 < holyolli> kann dein router denn snmp? sonst kannst du es ja auch damit machen 22:01 < uninvited> snmp...moment sollte schon. Check ich schnell ab. 22:02 -!- term_aweh [~pm@beaufort.wyzant.de] has quit ("zz") 22:03 < uninvited> schade. Q:Does the router support snmp A: not at this time. 22:04 < holyolli> hm 22:04 < uninvited> Nee, aktuelle Firmware unterstütz kein SNMP 22:04 < uninvited> Apropos SNMP: wie führe ich das aus ? 22:05 < holyolli> unter linux gibt es "snmpwalk" 22:05 < holyolli> damit kannst du die sachen auf jeden fall auslesen 22:05 < holyolli> für alles andere muss ich leider auch auf how-tos verweisen... :-/ 22:05 < holyolli> tsa hat da heute bei der arbeit was mit gemacht...vieleicht weiss der mehr 22:06 < uninvited> Okay. Also erstmal danke. 22:06 < uninvited> Mal sehen ich dränge die NETGEARler dazu snmp endlich in die Firmware aufzunehmen. 22:07 < uninvited> *G* 22:07 < holyolli> jo 22:17 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("X-Chat: For a good time, call 1-900-4X-Chat") 22:20 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958DD5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:20 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@pD952297C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:20 < ripclaw> hi folks. 22:21 < thalerim> good evening/good morning/good afternoon 22:21 < ripclaw> just wanted to pop in here in case someone has immediate questions regarding anything. 22:21 < ripclaw> thalerim: its evening here.. (Europe/Frankfurt) 22:21 < thalerim> f.a.m? 22:21 < ripclaw> gonna go to bed in a few minutes, i`m toasted from this week. 22:21 < ripclaw> thalerim: yes. 22:22 < ripclaw> thalerim: 50 km south of FFM on A5. 22:22 < thalerim> mehr nach rheinland-pfalz oder mehr anch hessen ? 22:22 < ripclaw> suedhessen, odenwald randgebiet nahe heppenheim/pfungstadt. 22:23 * ripclaw hat morgen ehrenamtlich grilldienst um 10:00h und danach noch viel bockmist im kopp. 22:23 < thalerim> hm, ich wohn ne stunde von frankfurt weg 22:23 < thalerim> 20minuten bis mainz, in bad kreuznach 22:23 < ripclaw> thalerim: welche ecke ? kreuznach... hmmm. 22:24 < ripclaw> das is cool. 22:24 < ripclaw> da kann man mal eben hinzappen :-) 22:25 < thalerim> *g* yo. 22:25 < thalerim> dummerweise ist es mit mir so, dass ich nen guten freund in mainz kenne, aber noch nie bei ihm war *g* 22:25 < thalerim> als schueler ist man da eher beschränkt :-/ 22:25 < ripclaw> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/ripclaw/images/pictures/bike/honda_official/ 22:26 < ripclaw> ich kenn ne gute moeglichkeit mal eben von der arbeit (eschborn) nach da drueben zu kommen und die oelmulti`s happy zu machne :-) 22:27 < thalerim> oelmutlis ??? 22:27 < ripclaw> ölmulti`s (shell, esso, aral, etc) 22:27 < ripclaw> man nehme mopped und jage 12l super auf 100 durch :-) 22:28 < thalerim> hrhr, achso :-) 22:28 < thalerim> ich hobs da awos missverstondn 22:29 < thalerim> hübsches ding 22:29 * ripclaw looks at pictures of guzzi v11 sport and starts to grin... 22:29 < ripclaw> https://www.motoguzzi.it/eng/v11rm_spo.html 22:29 -!- uninvited is now known as uninvited_away 22:29 < ripclaw> har har... haben will ! 22:29 * uninvited_away is looking @snmp specs 22:31 < ripclaw> thalerim: damit kommt man ruck zuck nach kreuznach... 22:32 < thalerim> das glaub ich dir sogar :-P 22:32 < ripclaw> und das werd ich morgen mal wieder durch die lande bewegen, egal was das wetter so sagt. 22:32 * ripclaw hhowls.... 22:32 < ripclaw> awoooooooooooooooooooo hooooo ! 22:33 < thalerim> mh. 22:34 < thalerim> hoffentlich fällste net :-) 22:34 < ripclaw> hab schon 2x hinter mir, kommt so schnell net mehr vor, man wird intelligenter - schlaege auf den hinterkopf und so. 22:36 < thalerim> *g* :-P 22:37 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B23F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:37 < tsa> re.. 22:37 < thalerim> dere 22:38 * tsa installing solaris software companion cd.. 22:38 < ripclaw> hi tsa, don`t forget to install SUNWvts :-) 22:39 < tsa> hi ripclaw.. 22:40 < tsa> just got rid of the damn ide disk.... 22:40 < ripclaw> ? 22:40 < tsa> i had an 10gb ide disk in the sun before.. 22:40 < tsa> nothing else.. 22:40 < tsa> now a 4gb scsi....need to get another one.. 22:41 < tsa> ide sucks.. 22:42 < ripclaw> ide has one advantage i really love - some of the drives are below 25dBA - which allows me to sleep again, compared to SCSI Fibre arrays... 22:42 < uninvited_away> har har har 22:42 < tsa> hehe.. 22:43 < tsa> well....if you have an a1000 you want to get rid of, just tell me ;-) 22:43 < ripclaw> but fibre arrays have an advantage over ide, too - if you have a large enough house (which i don`t have), you can store them far away, since fibre allows about 1km :-) 22:43 < tsa> you'll need a large house for 1km fcal.. 22:43 < ripclaw> tsa: i have RSM which i dont wanna get rid of - 108 gb in 30 disks, loud like hell 22:44 < uninvited_away> or put em up outside on your balcony, which has many advantages in winter - allows passive cooling ;-) 22:44 < ripclaw> and a big pocket - 1km fcal is $$$ 22:44 < tsa> i can imagine that.. 22:44 < ripclaw> tsa: putting it outside is a bad idea with that MTBF. 22:44 < tsa> well, i'll still have to get another disk for this box..4gb isn't too much sapce.. 22:45 < tsa> did you already have a look at solaris 9? 22:45 < ripclaw> tsa: the question is - may i tell so, if. 22:45 < tsa> th 22:45 < tsa> i don't know.. 22:46 < tsa> ..and won't ask any further ;) 22:46 < ripclaw> i work for sun as an external consultant. 22:46 < tsa> yes, i know. 22:46 < ripclaw> i can tell you that sunsolve already has patches for solaris 9, i can tell you what the press says, etc. 22:46 < ripclaw> i can tell you that you`ll like solaris 9. 22:46 < ripclaw> :-) 22:46 < tsa> patches - just a few days after the release? uh.. 22:47 < thalerim> ripclaw: where is linux superior, where solaris ? 22:47 < ripclaw> no - BEFORE the official release the first patchsets to the release date checkout where avialable officially. 22:47 < ripclaw> thalerim: official answer: check ultralinux.org - ... 22:47 < ripclaw> unofficial one. 22:47 < tsa> i already considered getting it, but solaris9 doesn't seem to be available in .de at the moment.. 22:48 < tsa> i wasn't able to find asingle word on solaris9 on sun.de .. 22:48 < ripclaw> solaris scales better with more cpus, is faster on high end boxes. 22:48 < ripclaw> tsa - it should - call sun 06103-752-0 and ask mr. hess for someone from edu sales, i suppose. 22:49 < ripclaw> mom 22:51 < ripclaw> sorry - i don`t have a number of someone from sales that sells to universities etc - try asking for OE ambassador ulrich graef. 22:51 < thalerim> ripclaw: don't you want go to sleep? :-) 22:51 < thalerim> i will right now 22:51 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-175-2.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:51 < tsa> hefrom what i've read on sun.com solaris9 will be available for single-cpu machines for free.. 22:51 < rxr> re 22:51 < ripclaw> thalerim - yes. thnx for reminder. i need to, since i gotta get up early. 22:51 < tsa> hi rxr 22:51 < thalerim> me either 22:51 < rxr> my dsl connect still sucks ... 22:52 < ripclaw> tsa: on sparc that doesnt count too much - you can still install, since each cpu encloses a license :-) 22:52 < ripclaw> rxr re & tschoe. 22:52 < tsa> rxr: same problems as yesterday? 22:52 * ripclaw is sleepy 22:52 < thalerim> 5h sleeps does swallow a lot of my vital power 22:52 < ripclaw> ok, folks, time to take a bath and go for a sleep ... 22:52 < ripclaw> thalerim: i did the entire week with 3-4 hours sleep a day. i am EXHAUSTED 22:52 < tsa> ripclaw: i know...but i guess i'll get myself a copy anyway, to get the docs stuff etc.. 22:53 < tsa> uh. 22:53 < ripclaw> :-) 22:53 < ripclaw> tsa: way to go. 22:53 < thalerim> ripclaw: have a nice dream.. anyway ;-) 22:53 < ripclaw> good nicht every one. 22:53 < tsa> cu ripclaw.. 22:53 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@pD952297C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("going for a nap...") 22:54 < tsa> ok...software companion cd finished. 22:56 < tsa> next thing. gnome. ;) 22:56 < rxr> tsa: yes same prob as yesterday :-( 22:56 < tsa> rxr: any progress regarding poster stuff? 22:56 < tsa> rxr: hm...strange... 22:57 < rxr> I updated the poster last night 22:58 < rxr> (rewrote all text to be erhm look ordendlicher ... 22:58 < rxr> ) 22:58 < tsa> hehe 22:58 < rxr> 212.202.175.2 22:58 < rxr> is my current IP - the dyndns entry will not work ... 22:58 < rxr> maybe you can take a look on the file ... 22:59 < rxr> tsa: what was about gnome? 22:59 < rxr> gnome for slowlaris? 22:59 < thalerim> rxr: neat, orderly 22:59 < tsa> i'm currently installing gnome 1.4 on my sun.. 22:59 < rxr> ah 23:00 < rxr> thalerim: ah thanks - and I also ordentlich contains a typo ... 23:01 < tsa> hehe 23:01 < thalerim> rxr: so i may call you a lamer now? ;-P 23:01 < tsa> hehe 23:02 < tsa> don't think so.. 23:02 < thalerim> seriously, i am just a perfectionistt 23:02 < thalerim> -e ;-) 23:02 < thalerim> erm, -t 23:03 * thalerim hears his bed call for him! 23:04 < rxr> *lol* 23:05 < tsa> what does it say? 23:05 < tsa> go away, you're too heavy? ;) 23:07 < thalerim> actually i am that sexy it's fallen to love 23:07 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:07 < holyolli> re 23:07 < thalerim> now it demands for me for caressing 23:08 < rxr> was clifford_away online today ? 23:08 < thalerim> admitted that sound quite weird but that's the effect of being too long away 23:08 < tsa> don't know...i wasn't online today.. 23:08 < thalerim> awake 23:11 * thalerim is listening to WIZO - Die letzte Sau 23:12 < thalerim> Und jetzt psrißtz das warme aus dem hals der letzten Sau 23:12 < tsa> Patch number 112438-01 has been successfully installed. 23:12 < thalerim> spritzt 23:12 < tsa> aah. 23:12 < thalerim> well, i think you all have to believe i am more than just insane 23:13 < tsa> one of the more important one's.. 23:13 < thalerim> yes, you're right 23:13 < holyolli> is anybody using gdm? 23:14 < rxr> jo 23:14 < tsa> nope. 23:15 * tsa not using x11 login at all.. 23:15 < holyolli> rxr: was ist bei dir unter /etc/gdm/Sessions ? irgendwie ist da bei der installation nichts reingekommen und gdm mag das irgendwie nicht... =) 23:15 < holyolli> tsa: mh? startx? 23:15 < tsa> jupp. 23:16 < tsa> dummdidumm.. 23:16 < tsa> kiste, mach hin mit gnome-install.. 23:16 < tsa> *tret* 23:17 < holyolli> hehe....sind deine cpus doch zu langsam? *duck* 23:17 < tsa> ist nur eine.. 23:17 < holyolli> die sun? 23:17 < tsa> jo. 23:17 < rxr> holyolli: er 23:17 < tsa> reinstall. 23:17 < tsa> nu laeuft die kiste auf scsi. 23:18 < holyolli> oh. wie kommts? 23:18 < tsa> (naja, eine 4gb platte) 23:18 < tsa> mir war langweilig.. 23:18 < tsa> ;) 23:18 < holyolli> *fg* hast du keine frau? 23:18 < holyolli> ;) 23:18 < tsa> das musst du ja sagen... :-PP 23:19 < rxr> holyolli: da sind scripte fuer kde gnome icewm blackbox ... 23:19 < rxr> werden in dRock installiert ... 23:19 < holyolli> rxr: naja..in 1.5 scheinbar nicht... =) 23:19 < holyolli> kannst du mir das gnome-script mal bitte dccen? 23:19 < rxr> die gdm configs habe ich noch nicht gemergt ... 23:19 -!- uninvited_away [uninvited@p50802C7F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("w?Ee0oELo3wnz4m2v5EspI7BMzthMkCrzZSCVcWvaiNo?xPL1rASSjznN2w8Dcx0DPASPw00") 23:20 < rxr> holyolli: hoe 23:20 < rxr> holyolli: noch nie mit irsii gedcc'ed ... 23:20 < holyolli> rxr: dann mails mir ;) 23:20 < rxr> und ich habe das file auch nicht auf der sun ... 23:20 < holyolli> axxo 23:20 < rxr> addr ? 23:20 < holyolli> oliver@regehr.net 23:21 < esden> re hi all 23:21 < holyolli> hi esden 23:21 < tsa> opfer@regehr.net sollte aber auch gehen ;) 23:21 < tsa> *duck* 23:21 < tsa> hoi esden 23:21 < holyolli> tsa: genauso, wie ja auch pappnase@jaenicke.org geht... 23:21 < tsa> jupp ;) 23:23 < rxr> holyolli: ok raus 23:23 < holyolli> danke 23:28 < tsa> hm...ich koennte definitiv mehr speicher gebrauchen... 23:31 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 23:31 < holyolli> hi d3mian 23:31 < d3mian> hola 23:31 < rxr> tsa: was hast du da fuer eine sun ? 23:32 < tsa> rxr: u10, 300mhz, 256mb ram, creator fb, 4gb scsi platte 23:33 < tsa> duerfte ungefaehr das gleiche sein wie eure u5.. 23:33 < esden> kommt der ripclaw noch ... ? 23:34 < tsa> esden: der ist schon wieder weg, wollte schlafen gehen.. 23:34 < holyolli> esden: wahrscheinlich nicht 23:34 < tsa> hat wohl die letzten tage nicht mehr als 4h/nacht geschalfen.. 23:34 < tsa> s,al,la, 23:34 < holyolli> esden: der ist auf so nem komischen motorradfahrertreffen, wo die ihr reifen kaputtfahren.. =) 23:34 < holyolli> ;) 23:35 < holyolli> brb 23:35 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("X-Chat: is a flavored condom, all the women love its taste") 23:36 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:41 < tsa> ich muss mal eben rebooten...brb 23:41 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B23F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 23:48 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("X-Chat: to the rescue!") 23:54 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:54 < holyolli> re 23:54 < d3mian> wb holyolli --- Log closed Sat May 25 00:00:59 2002