--- Log opened Wed May 29 00:00:10 2002
--- Day changed Wed May 29 2002
00:00 < huebi> qt-3.0.4 ist wieder "multi make" faehig, so wie das aussieht.
00:04 < huebi> Media Markt. O"ffnungszeiten.  Montag von 6 - 20h <- die spinnen
00:07 < rxr> prost
00:10 < tsa> jo.
00:11 < huebi> Gestern Abend war vrom Mediamarkt in Weiterstadt Stau bis auf die A5
00:11 < fake> arghl....
00:12 < fake> <--- b4k4.
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00:12 < Mike1> hi
00:13 < huebi> hi Mike1 
00:13 < fake> *AARGH*
00:13 < fake> i just opened a screen inside a screen....
00:14 < fake> brb
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00:16 < fake> re.
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00:16 < tsa> re.
00:17 < fake> tum di del dum....
00:17 < Mike1> anyone know how to keep ftp users only in their home dir?
00:17 < tsa> chroot.
00:17 < tsa> which ftpd?
00:17 < fake> Mike1: do you use proftpd?
00:17 < Mike1> i dont want my users to be able to cd /etc for example
00:18 < Mike1> no i use wu-ftp
00:18 < fake> BOFH answer: then delete it *muahaha*
00:18 < Mike1> but i could use pro ftp is there any solution
00:18 < tsa> sure.
00:18 < fake> i dunno wu-ftp see it's manual for chroot....
00:18 < tsa> DefaultRoot ~
00:18 < tsa> in proftpd.conf
00:19 < Mike1> fake maybe i could just do rm -rf /
00:19 < fake> Mike1: would be the most secure system.
00:19 < tsa> Mike1: better: rm -rf /* &
00:19 < Mike1> tsa thanks
00:19 < fake> no. dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
00:19 < huebi> vsftp?
00:20 < tsa> huebi: no experiance with it here,.
00:20 < Mike1> huebi ?
00:20 < tsa> s,a,e,
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00:23 < fake> re hackbard
00:23 < huebi> http://vsftpd.beasts.org/ <- I never used it for chroot. But it suvived 18C3
00:23 < huebi> +r
00:24 < tsa> hm..
00:24 < Mike1> huebi mmm sounds cool
00:24 < tsa> Grrr...
00:24 < fake> surviving is _not_ cool.
00:24 < tsa> damn dependencies in the sun patches
00:24 < huebi> SMP showed me theat ftpd. I use it on rocklinux.dyndns.org
00:25 < tsa> hm...i don't use a ftpd on my home machine at all.
00:25 < huebi> fake: why? or what do you mean?
00:25 < tsa> many services running, no firewall here..
00:25 < fake> surviving does mean: no improvement to your situation ...
00:26 < rxr> I use the bds ftpd (linux port)
00:27 < fake> the BDS?
00:27 < fake> ;)
00:28 < tsa> hm....let's see..
00:28 < tsa> most ftpd's are vulnerable to different kinds of globbing attacks
00:28 < tsa> bsd ftpd (linux port) had that problem, too
00:29 < tsa> exception: wu-ftpd, which brings it's own globbing code, but has a bug history so awful i wouldn't even consider using it
00:29 < tsa> i don't know about vsftpd
00:29 < fake> yeah, i never even tried it...
00:30 < tsa> furthermore, ftp is "the bad protocol", making firewall admins cry.
00:30 < rxr> tsa: yes wu-ftpd is "strange"
00:30 < fake> hail sftp!
00:31 < rxr> hackbard_: what do you like most on the camera set you mentioned ?
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00:31 < rxr> I now watched half of the movie and found not so much speical ...
00:31 < rxr> although the movie starts to become interesting ;-) *g*
00:32 < tsa> let's get rid of ftp. 
00:32 < tsa> uucp rulez.
00:32 < tsa> ;)
00:32 < rxr> hehe ;-)
00:32 < rxr> hae ?
00:32 < huebi> hehe
00:32 < fake> back to the bongos...
00:33 < tsa> hehe
00:33 < rxr> lol
00:33 < huebi> ... -- .-- ..--.  ----.....-..--..--...  .---
00:33 < huebi> ;-)
00:33 < rxr> tsa: feel free to morse your messagfes ... ;-)
00:33 < rxr> ah huebi the same idea ;-)
00:34 < hackbard_> rxr: eg that waiting for the guests szene. the camera behind the table with all that food on it ..
00:34 < fake> dit dow dit dow dit....
00:34 < hackbard_> rxr: you finished the first file?
00:35 < rxr> first file? there will be more ?
00:35 < rxr> no 52% of the first file ...
00:35 < tsa> rxr: ok, no problem.
00:35 < hackbard_> oh, sure, another one :)
00:35 * rxr searching for the morse alphabet ...
00:35 < tsa> #define 0 -----
00:35 < tsa> #define 1 .----
00:35 < rxr> LLLOOOOOLLLLLL
00:35 < fake> rxr: /usr/games/morse ;)
00:35 < tsa> we're at binary, now.
00:36 < rxr> pfrrrr ha ha 
00:36 < tsa> rxr: http://scoutnet.ch/archives/books/morse.htm
00:36 < rxr>  ....,
00:36 < rxr>  ..,
00:36 < rxr>  -,
00:36 < rxr>  ...,
00:36 < rxr>  .-,
00:36 < rxr> #
00:36 < rxr> -#
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00:37 < tsa> rxr: is this your own interpretation of morse code, with "-" replaced by ","? ;)
00:38 < hackbard_> rxr: wait for the end of file1 - it will propably get even more intresting then - (nice scene :-)
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00:39 -!- hackbard_ is now known as hackbard
00:41 < fake> why can't i disable building the extra1/* in rock-config?
00:41 < fake> O x11/* works
00:42 < fake> but O extra1/* doesn't...
00:42 < fake> err... nope.
00:42 < fake> ok. thanks.
00:43 < d3m|away> ur welcome
00:43 -!- d3m|away is now known as d3mian
00:43 < rxr> hm shit
00:43 < rxr> fake why ?
00:44 < fake> rxr: wasn't sure about the "pattern style".
00:44 < rxr> ok
00:45 < rxr> hackbard: so resume is running in konqueror wget and curl are too stupiid ...
00:45 < tsa> hm....interesting.
00:45 < tsa> why do i have a porn site in my bookmarks?
00:46 < hackbard> rxr: good
00:46 * tsa wondering
00:46 < fake> tsa: that was your other you.
00:46 < rxr> fake ;-)
00:46 < rxr> tsa: because you regulatrly visit it ;-)
00:47 < tsa> rxr: ah, you're correct...i forgot. ;-)
00:47 < tsa> *sigh*
00:47 < tsa> is it possible that URL's are bookmarking themselves?
00:47 < fake> tsa> which browser?
00:47 < tsa> fake: galeon
00:47 < rxr> tsa: hm - I'm not an export for this ... - but some sites have a do bookmark button ...
00:47 < fake> err..... usually.... not?
00:48 < tsa> hm...strange.
00:48 < rxr> tsa: but I never clicked on it ..
00:48 < fake> you can hack ie easily, but mozilla....
00:48 < huebi> tsa: strange...
00:49 < tsa> does the rock galeon package come with bookmarks?
00:49 < tsa> ;-()
00:49 < rxr> lol
00:49 < huebi> no windows, no IE, no outlook.... strange
00:49 < tsa> perhaps it's this bookmarklets stuff i never understood..
00:50 < huebi> Linux grows up and behaves like commercal software...
00:50 < fake> mabye galeon autobookmarks the pages you visit most often ;)
00:50 < rxr> lol
00:50 < tsa> hehe.
00:50 * tsa browsing porn site.
00:50 < huebi> or galeon wants to say: "f*** you!"
00:50 < rxr> tsa: I though ROCK is better than sex ...
00:51 < rxr> huebi: pfree
00:51 < tsa> hm...
00:51 < rxr> huestel
00:51 < tsa> it's not even interesting. damn.
00:51 < huebi> mutantensoftware!
00:52 < tsa> i'll file a bug report with galeon - they should select better bookmarks...
00:52 < rxr> tsa: I patched a neuronal net into the galeon packages it starts to develop a mind ...
00:52 < tsa> rxr: a pretty perverted mind, it seems..
00:52 < rxr> tsa: it learns form the user ...
00:52 < tsa> oh-oh
00:52 < rxr> (ON YOUR SIDE - DO NOT GET THIS WRONG)
00:53 < tsa> hehe ;-)
00:53 < rxr> huebi: die hat aber nen coolen compi
00:53 < fake> wer die?
00:54 < fake> ich hab ja schon geh[rt dass es frauen gibt die nen computer besitzen...
00:54 < fake> j/k
00:54 < rxr> er hackbard ...
00:54 < huebi> _nerver_ use M$ visual C++
00:54 < rxr> shit completatin
00:54 < esden> re hi all
00:54 < rxr> the movie
00:54 < rxr> hi esden
00:55 < esden> einen wuenderschoenen guten abend
00:55 < fake> re esden!
00:55 < esden> ich bin endlich daheim angekommen ...
00:55 < tsa> huhu esden
00:55 < esden> so ein scheiss ...
00:55 < fake> huebi why not, it's nice and colorful!
00:55 < rxr> esden: 1.7 alpha cross compile 0 finished 30 errors ...
00:55 < esden> ich hasse zugfaheren
00:55 < tsa> hast du uns Pornos mitgebracht?
00:55 < d3mian> hi esden
00:55 < rxr> oh hie d3mian 
00:55 < esden> rxr: autsch
00:55 < rxr> maybe we should switch back to english ;-)
00:55 < tsa> ok.
00:56 < esden> tsa: www.free6.com reicht dir nicht ?
00:56 < d3mian> :), thanx
00:56 < esden> sure
00:56 < tsa> hehe
00:56 < esden> hi d3mian 
00:56 * fake is banning esden becauso of: (bad) pr0n
00:56 < tsa> hm..we could add an package "xxx" to sf cvs and make esden the maintainer..
00:56 < tsa> ;-)
00:57 < fake> huebi> give us a pr0n cow.
00:57 < tsa> AAAAHH!
00:57 < rxr> fake: agree /ignore esden ;-)
00:57 < fake> tsa is being hunted by ad popups.
00:58 < tsa> no f***ing cows, please!
00:58 < rxr> lol
00:58 < fake> freeing cows? let's free cows, alright!
00:58 * rxr wants to have this video on disk
00:58 < tsa> i prefer eating them...
00:58 < fake> rxr> x2mpeg ; vcdimager...
00:59 < fake> if you eat a cow, you free it's soul.
01:00 < rxr> hackbard: either yout new connection is faster, or konqui downloads faster than wget ...
01:00 < d3mian> wtf?
01:00 < fake> i think i'll get some sleep now.
01:01 < fake> gn8!
01:01 < fake> and f34r d4 c0wz!
01:01 < d3mian> cu fake
01:02 < tsa> cu fake
01:02 < huebi> cu fake 
01:02 < hackbard> bye fake
01:02 < rxr> cu fake
01:02 < tsa> hackbard: s,bye,cu,
01:02 < hackbard> :)
01:03 < d3mian> :)
01:03 < capchaos> Q: If i have already built base packages how do i build only the ext ones ?
01:04 < tsa> "touch _nodel_" and continue the build?
01:05 < rxr> capchaos: which ROCK ?
01:05 < capchaos> hum? d3mian?
01:05 < capchaos> can you tell me?
01:06 < capchaos> hackbard?
01:06 < d3mian> ur using drock right, rene must know
01:08 < esden> hmm ... 
01:08 < capchaos> yes rock 1.15
01:08 < capchaos> 1.5
01:08 * -> esden was checking mail ... no reaction on the dietlibc list to my posting ... 
01:08 * -> esden is thrilled ...
01:09 < rxr> esden: could you fwd the posting ? and maybe send me the latest dietlibc patchset ?
01:09 < esden> urgh ...
01:09 < esden> rxr: I have posted only one bugfix there
01:10 < esden> not all my stuff ... it is too ugly
01:10 < capchaos> _nodel_ does fine .. but it goes on with "rock-intel-1.5.15 found .. not building packages .. building subdistributions"
01:10 < capchaos> now i dont want to clean up and rebuilt everything :
01:10 < huebi> capchaos: rm -rf rock-intel-1.5.15
01:10 < capchaos> huebi: no way without doing that?
01:10 < esden> rxr: I have to clean it first before the world can see it ... but if you want you can take a try ... and I will make a patch extra for you
01:10 < huebi> capchaos: the files are only copied to rock-intel-1.5.15. You can just erase it.
01:11 < capchaos> huebi: oh okay
01:11 < capchaos> thanks huebi
01:12 < huebi> in 1.5.12 the files were moved and you had to bebuild all!
01:12 < rxr> huebi: copied? in dRock they are moved are you sure ???
01:12 < huebi> s/b/r/
01:12 < rxr> huebi: ah
01:12 < huebi> in rock 1.5.15 they are copied. I changed that. It's easier for unattended debug builds.
01:13 < huebi> also rock-debug is now an option.
01:15 < huebi> rock-debug need 20min. 
01:17 < rxr> huebi: it needs more time here ...
01:23 < rxr> Linux 2.4.19-pre9
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01:26 < esden> hmm diese random faehler hier sind hartnaeckig ...
01:26 < esden> naja ... ich gehe betti
01:26 < esden> nachtele jungs
01:26 < esden> night @ all
01:26 < tsa> cu esden
01:27 < tsa> *gaehn*
01:27 < huebi> cu esden 
01:28 < d3mian> sleep fine esden
01:29 < rxr> cu esden 
01:29 < rxr> hackbard: Could you also put the 2nd file online ? So they can be downloaded simultaniously ?
01:29 < tsa> btw..
01:29 < tsa> how do i mark a package to be built on one arch only?
01:30 < tsa> [R] ?
01:31 < tsa> hm...asleep or busy?
01:36 < tsa> aah...i see
01:37 < tsa> any comments on future design of the nvidia package?
01:39 < tsa>  _______ 
01:39 < tsa> ( huhu? )
01:39 < tsa>  ------- 
01:39 < tsa>         o   ^__^
01:39 < tsa>          o  (oo)\_______
01:39 < tsa>             (__)\       )\/\
01:39 < rxr> R yes
01:39 < tsa>                 ||----w |
01:39 < tsa>                 ||     ||
01:39 < tsa> aah!
01:39 < rxr> tsa: [R] in 1.7
01:40 < huebi> I personaly would prefer two parts source/binary
01:40 < rxr> and please do not split the package it is oi the way it is
01:40 < tsa> rxr: how do i say "ia-32 only"?
01:40 < rxr> [R] intel
01:40 < rxr> no
01:40 < tsa> ok.
01:40 < tsa> hm?
01:40 < rxr> [R] + intel
01:40 < tsa> ah.
01:40 < tsa> ok.
01:40 < tsa> do you think i should prepare an ia-64 package too?
01:41 < tsa> nvidia has ia-64 drivers, but i can't test them..
01:42 < rxr> we do not yet have a ia-64 target ...
01:42 < rxr> the syntax would be [R] + intel ia-64
01:42 < rxr> (I guess)
01:42 < rxr> (with one beer in me ...)
01:43 < tsa> who's guessing, the beer or you?
01:44 < rxr> we both ;-)
01:44 < tsa> hehe
01:45 < rxr> hey - but we are a good team:
01:45 < rxr> base/silo/silo.desc:[R] + sparc sparc64
01:46 < tsa> hm....depends.
01:46 < tsa> i'll need different download url's for the arch's, so i'll have to make a nvidia32 and nvidia64 package, anyway..
01:47 < rxr> tsa: ?? what crap is this ????
01:47 < rxr> hackbard: still awake ?
01:48 < tsa> rxr: 
01:48 < tsa> Module-nvkernel: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped
01:49 < hackbard> rxr: yo
01:49 < hackbard> fertig?
01:49 < rxr> ah
01:49 < tsa> libGL* stuff is binary, too.
01:49 < rxr> hackbard: can you put the other file online? so I can also start to download it over the nigth?
01:49 < rxr> (the movie starts t get interesting ;-)
01:49 < hackbard> hehe
01:50 < hackbard> hmm
01:50 < rxr> tsa: NVidia cards suck
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01:50 < rxr> hackbard: hmm -> means mounted from CD ?
01:50 < hackbard> i could just mount it on hackstation and export it to gate via nfs .. or you could simply log on hackstation and copy it via scp?
01:50 < hackbard> right
01:50 < tsa> rxr: best price/performance ..
01:50 < tsa> 3d performance
01:51 < hackbard> is scp okay for u? i ll useradd rxr then ..
01:51 < rxr> I could do so ...
01:51 < tsa> the new matrox stuff might change this.
01:51 < tsa> we'll have to wait and see.
01:51 < rxr> ati Radeon 7xxx is also ok ...
01:51 < rxr> the 8xxx has not yet an 3d driver ...
01:54 < tsa> ah...i see
01:56 < tsa> anyway, i won't spend more than 150 eur for a gfx card.
01:56 < tsa> till about 3 months ago, i had my tnt2. then i got a cheap gf2gts off ebay.
01:57 < tsa> sufficient to make a picture on my monitor. enough 3d performance to kill some bots in UT.
01:58 < d3mian> :)
01:58 < tsa> no need for windoze.
01:58 < d3mian> these bots die fastly in my gforce2 with 64Mb
01:58 < tsa> hehe
01:59 < tsa> i'm satisfied with 32mb
02:00 < tsa> would be nice to have more games supported with linux..
02:00 < d3mian> @ home i just have an sis620 with 8mb, it suckz, i came here and enjoy playing... also with a 21' monitor :D
02:00 < tsa> hehe....nice
02:00 < tsa> <- 19"
02:00 < d3mian> cool, 
02:00 < d3mian> well, cu later
02:01 < d3mian> have a good night all
02:01 < rxr> cu d3mian 
02:01 < tsa> this is really strange...a few years ago, we were all used to work with CRT's in 15", max. 17" ..
02:01 < tsa> cu d3mian
02:01 < capchaos> yo gnite d3mian, or whatever time  it is ;-)
02:01 < tsa> LANG=de?
02:01 < rxr> ;-)
02:02 < d3mian> as i said before, today is not a day to sleep (too much work) :)
02:02 < rxr> tsa: do you have s.th important to tell ?
02:02 < huebi> cu d3mian 
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02:02 * capchaos has a 15" right now :(
02:02 < tsa> rxr: did i ever have something important to tell? ;-)
02:02 < rxr> tsa: Err. Yes. I think so ;-)
02:02 < d3m|away> export LANG=de, sure
02:02 < tsa> hehe
02:03 < tsa> naja, nen 15" monitor moecht ich nicht mehr benutzen muessen..
02:03 < tsa> 17" mindestens, lieber mehr.
02:05 < capchaos> *brrr*
02:05 < hackbard> btw rxr, should i be able to build glibc in stage 0 with ur tree?
02:05 < tsa> au scheisse... ist ja auch schon wieder 2 uhr durch..
02:05 < tsa> hm....ich geh auch mal besser pennen
02:05 < hackbard> vanilla still fails cuz of that lib64 thing
02:05 < tsa> macht mit $LANG, was ihr wollt ;)
02:06 < hackbard> n8 tsa
02:06 < tsa> cu *
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02:08 < rxr> hackbard: which arch ?
02:08 < rxr> hackbard: ah sparc64 ...
02:08 < rxr> yes might fail ...
02:09 < rxr> hackbard: I'll do some sparc64 hacking tomorrow ...
02:09 < hackbard> k
02:10 < huebi> n8
02:11 < hackbard> n8 huebi
02:12 < rxr> 3ok I'll sleep too (hopping to have a nice moring video handy ;-)
02:12 < hackbard> hehe, good night rene
02:12 < rxr> rene@jackson:/home/everybody > du -csh music/ video/
02:12 < rxr> 9.5G    music
02:12 < rxr> 40G     video
02:12 < rxr> 50G     total
02:12 < rxr> urghs
02:13 < rxr> hackbard: you might also like to get over these ...
02:13 < rxr> heap.localnet:/home   77610488  72944672    723392 100% /home
02:13 < rxr> hm we might need a new RAID5 storage on the server ...
02:14 < hackbard> oh, 40 gig videos .. sounds nice :)
02:15 < rxr> we can NFS moutn them on the web/ftp server tomorrow ;-)
02:15 < rxr> cu hackbard 
02:15 < rxr> n8 @ all
02:15 < d3m|away> cu rene
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03:20 < hackbard> n8
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04:35 < d3mian> re
04:41 < d3mian> cu
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07:24 < huebi> moin
07:42 < coldie> morning
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08:51 < rxr> re
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08:55 < d3mian> guten morgen guys
08:55 < rxr> Guten Moregen d3mian 
08:55 < coldie> morning d3mian, rxr
08:55 < coldie> rxr == ripclaw?
08:56 < d3mian> no
08:56 < coldie> ah :)
08:56 * coldie /who'd
08:56 < coldie> sorry *sheepish*
08:57 < rxr> coldie: rxr = rene
08:57 < rxr> ripclaw = stefan
08:59 < d3mian> brb
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09:09 < d3mian> re
09:13 < d3mian> fuck ,i forgot framebuffer support
09:16 < coldie> forget it in lilo or the kernel?
09:17 < d3mian> kernel
09:18 < coldie> mmm, freshly baked kernel
09:23 < d3mian> what's the meaning of "maik" in german?
09:46 < rxr> d3mian: sorry I do not know what maik is ... - Is it english ??
09:50 < d3mian> no, german, i guess
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10:09 < esden> moin
10:09 < d3mian> hi esden , surprise 
10:13 < esden> hmm ...
10:13 < huebi> Moep!
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10:14 < d3mian> murning huebi 
10:14 < huebi> hi d3mian 
10:14 < d3mian> praenti;)
10:14 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C203.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
10:15 < d3mian> hi bluefire 
10:16 < bluefire> Moin
10:21 < huebi> hi bluefire 
10:22 < esden> hi huebi 
10:22 * -> esden hates to wait ... I really hate it ... argh
10:26 < esden> ohh ... I missed two snapshots ... not good ...
10:47 < esden> I am getting headake from the tons of cache file updates ... 
10:49 * snyke @ esdenknuddl
10:52 < d3mian> brb
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11:05 * -> esden will fall asleap ... in some minutes ...
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11:13 < d3mian> hi capchaos 
11:17 < capchaos> moin d3mian
11:17 < capchaos> have to go shopping
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11:37 < rxr> re
11:37 < huebi> hi rene
11:37 < rxr> moin huebi 
11:37 < huebi> Ich habe autoconf auf 2.53 geupdated.
11:38 < huebi> und fast alles gefixt bekommen, was dann nicht mehr funktioniert hat.
11:38 < huebi> bis auf tcltk und rcs
11:38 < huebi> Das ist beide viel zu alt.
11:39 < huebi> und ich bin nicht _der_ Coder
11:39 < rxr> huebi: rcs hatte ich schonmal gefixt
11:39 < rxr> autconf in drock aber doch wieder gdowndated ...
11:41 < huebi> ausser tcltk und rcs war alles wirklich richtig einfach zu fixen nachdem ich mal die autoconf docs gefunden und in html konvertiert hatte ;-)
11:43 < huebi> rxr: Hast du Lust und Zeit dir das vielleicht mal anzusehen?
11:44 < huebi> lilo 22.3 braucht jetzt den nasm
11:52 < rxr> huebi: huh?
11:52 < rxr> rxr: das bei rsc war nur nen einzeiler ...
11:52 < rxr> huebi: weiviele andere packete hasst du denn schon gefixt ?
11:53 < huebi> rxr: moment
11:55 < rxr> huebi: ich kann da deine patches zu 1.7 hinzufuegen und dann rcs und co dort fixen ...
11:58 < huebi> re
11:58 < huebi> Ich muss mal im Changelog nachsehen. Kommt in ca 15 min
11:58 < rxr> jo jo
12:10 < d3mian> arrgg, i hate when i drink beer and i cant code, all this fucking night a bit drunked
12:16 < rxr> d3mian: hm not good ..
12:18 < d3mian> yes, i know, ill have to wait some hours :P
12:24 < esden> Error logs from build/default-1.7.0-DEV-intel-dietlibc-expert/root/var/adm/logs:
12:24 < esden> 110 builds total, 110 completed fine, 0 with errors.
12:24 < esden> ok ... finished to fix the packets .. hopefully
12:25 < esden> now start a complete rebuild to test if really all packets work ;-)
12:27 < esden> ok .. 
12:27 < esden> build started
12:27 < rxr> hi esden 
12:28 * -> esden going to the OS lecture
12:28 < rxr> I wish you much success
12:28 < esden> hi rxr 
12:28 < esden> rxr: thank you
12:28 < rxr> hm 17GB in my home dir
12:28 < rxr> maybe I should cleanup a bit ...
12:29 < esden> I think I was pretty successfull till now ... so ... I get bit more confident ... but the fixes I made are really bad ... :-/
12:29 < esden> ok ... cu l8ter
12:29 < rxr> cu esden 
12:41 < d3mian> cu esden 
12:51 < huebi> base-config/wdiff/configure_in.patch: wdiff-0.5 is now fixed for the use of autoconf-2.53
12:51 < huebi> * base-config/ed/configure_in.patch: with autoconfig 2.53 the configure.in script has to be modified for the new error handling
12:52 < huebi> * base-config/file/file.pz, base-config/ghostscript/ghostscript.pz,
12:52 < huebi>         base-config/hdparm/hdparm.pz, base-config/joe/joe.conf,
12:52 < huebi>         base-config/joe/joe.pz, base-config/libpng/libpng.conf,
12:52 < huebi>         base-config/libpng/libpng.pz, base-config/lilo/lilo.pz,
12:52 < huebi>         base-config/ntp/ntp.pz, base-config/psmisc/psmisc.pz,
12:52 < huebi>         base-config/qt/qt.pz, ext-config/libdvdread/libdvdread.ext:
12:52 < huebi>         several version updates
12:55 < rxr> oh
13:12 < d3mian> ill go home now
13:12 < d3mian> cu
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13:43 < hackbard> morning 
13:43 < coldie> morning
13:43 < huebi> hi hackbard 
13:45 < hackbard> rxr: expat is in mutiple trees in the new snap and so fails to build in stage3
13:46 < fake> ohayooo....
13:46 < huebi> hi fake 
13:46 < fake> gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)
13:46 < fake> *urgh*
13:46 < fake> hi huebi !
13:48 < esden> re hi all
13:48 < esden> hi fake !
13:48 < esden> hi huebi !
13:48 < esden> hi hackbard !
13:48 < huebi> hi esden 
13:48 < esden> hi coldie !
13:48 < esden> who else ?
13:48 < esden> ;-)
13:48 < fake> hi esden.
13:48 < esden> hi rxr ?!
13:49 < fake> küss das ei!
13:49 < esden> ei ... ? mein ei ? und welches ? ;-)
13:49 < rxr> hackbard: remove it from the sf tree ...
13:49 < rxr> is is already done - but cliff needs to update his copy ...
13:49 < hackbard> just saw it, a sourceforge - extra1 conflict ;)
13:51 < esden> argh I hate rock updates ... : 2-autoconf.err 3-autoconf.err
13:51 < esden> configure: error: perl is not found
13:52 < esden> ... so I will have to add perl now ... :-(
13:52 < fake> ln -s perl bash
13:52 < fake> *G*
13:52 < fake> errr
13:52 < fake> the other way round
13:52 < fake> ln -s bash perl.
13:53 < esden> fake: hehe ... 
13:54 < esden> why is perl used in so many places of linux ... is c and bash not enough ?
14:03 < fake> the i2 needs 12 minutes to "build" linux-src
14:10 < esden> have you guys read the last posting from rippy on the rock-ports mailinglist ? 
14:12 < hackbard> rxr: btw, there are always thousands of no more existing mounts (proc, dev , R.orig, R.build) after build aborts stage >1 ... do you know that problem?
14:13 < esden> hackbard: I have the same problem ... I had no time till now to track it ... rxr ?
14:13 < esden> hackbard: I use this to clean up the mounts :
14:14 < hackbard> esden: my furst guess would be, its the -l option to umount which doesnt work ..
14:14 < esden> mount | awk '/builddir/ { print $3 }' | xargs umount
14:14 < esden> it works for me currently
14:14 < esden> but the problem has to be fixed !
14:16 < hackbard> hmm, but that shouldnt work ...
14:17 < hackbard> i hues builddir is the doirectory ur building on .. but the mountpoints get deleted (rm -rf ...) so umounting it results in an error, that it doent exist ..
14:17 < hackbard> s/hues/guess/
14:18 < hackbard> i have to mkdir -p them first, umount them and sfter that delete them again ..
14:19 < esden> hackbard: sure you get errors
14:20 < fake> gosh.
14:20 < coldie> doesn't umount work with either the mount point or the device? you could maybe '/builddir/{print $1}'
14:20 < esden> but try to run the command and then mount
14:20 < esden> you will see that the mounts are gone
14:20 < fake> 12 minutes to "build" linux-src, and antoher 20 (!) minutes to build the tarball.
14:21 < esden> fake: you use find flist right ?
14:21 < fake> esden> no way.
14:21 < fake> flistwrapper
14:21 < esden> Error logs from build/default-1.7.0-DEV-intel-dietlibc-expert/root/var/adm/logs:
14:21 < esden>  [2] base/autoconf         [3] base/autoconf         [9] base/autoconf
14:21 < esden> 110 builds total, 107 completed fine, 3 with errors.
14:21 < esden> heeeueuuuuuullll
14:21 < esden> menno ...
14:22 < huebi> esden: 2.53?
14:22 < esden> ich hasse autoconf ich hasse es ... wieso braucht es perl zum kuckuck ... welche volgasidioten entwickeln dass !!!!
14:22 < esden> huebi: ja
14:22 < huebi> hmmm. Unfein!
14:23 < hackbard> coldie: its no device, mounted via loopback - does that work to?
14:23 < hackbard> esden: oh you are right, it prints out errors but umounting works ..
14:23 * -> esden wants to run amok and kill someone ...
14:23 < esden> hackbard: you see ;-) *fg*
14:24 < coldie> hackbard: mounted via loopback like with mount --bind?
14:24 < hackbard> yes
14:24 < hackbard> mount --bind $realbuild $builddir/R.build <- as an example
14:25 < esden> cu all 
14:25 * -> esden brb
14:25 < hackbard> bye esden
14:25 < coldie> bye esden
14:26 < coldie> hackbard: never tried with --bind before, but it would almost certainly cause trouble
14:26 < huebi> cu esden 
14:27 < coldie> better to stick with $3 :)
14:28 < coldie> if another device is mounted at where the bind is coming from
14:28 < hackbard> okay :)
14:29 < hackbard> yes there actually are more ffrom the same 'src'
14:29 < huebi> nasm [0.98.33 now in base
14:29 < huebi> lilo [22.3 fixed
14:37 < rxr> esden: jups atuco* GNU dung stinkt gewaltig ...
14:37 < rxr> deshalb wollte ich auch nicht das du unser install_* GNU auto*ifizierst ... :-(
14:38 < huebi> Also mir ist der autoconf-Kram ein bischen zu kompliziert, um ihn einfach mal schnell anzuwenden.
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14:43 < rxr> huebi: ausder das isr auch weder uebersichtlich noch elegant, es ist vollkommen vermurckster overkill ...
14:43 < huebi> vollkommen vermurckster overkill <- hehe
14:43 < huebi> stimmt.
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14:50 < th> gab es am 1.5er tree tatsaechlich keine commits seit gestern mittag?
14:50 < huebi> th: doch
14:50 < th> grml
14:50 < huebi> auf world
14:51 < th> ja das mein ich doch
14:51 < huebi> wofuer wird eigendlich rcs gebraucht?
14:52 < th> wobei?
14:52 < huebi> rcs - Revision Control System ist bei rock 1.5 in base. Aber cvs ist doch der Nachfolger, oder?
14:53 < rxr> huebi: benutzt cvs das nicht ?
14:53 < th> nein
14:53 < th> das kannst du so nicht sagen
14:53 < th> rxr: ich glaube es hat es mittlerweile selbst implementiert
14:53 < fake> Linux Vendors to Standardize on Single Distribution
14:53 < fake> machen wir auch mit? *g*
14:53 < th> rcs ist nach wie vor ein wichtiges grundlegendes tool ;)
14:54 < th> so aendere ich z.b. an der CVSROOT/loginfo rum
14:54 < th> co und ci
14:55 < huebi> Ah. Ok. Ich dachte, das wird garnicht mehr verwended.
14:55 < th> doch doch.
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14:56 < suR3al> hi
14:56 < huebi> rxr: Danke fuer deinen Patch fuer rcs
14:57 < rxr> huebi: wer hat mir noch gesagt: "Aender und loesch nicht was andere User verwenden ..." ;-)
14:57 < rxr> huebi: oh - hasst du den aus dRock? (War der da noch drin *wunder*)
14:57 < huebi> rxr: Jo, der war noch drin...
14:57 < th> ich nehme sogar hin und wieder /etc/passwd, shadow, group usw. ins rcs auf damit ich ein rm -f /etc/passwd,group schneller restaurieren kann
14:57 < rxr> huebi: bitte! ;-)
14:58 < huebi> rxr: loesch nicht was andere User verwenden <- Ich ;-)
14:58 < th>  wieder away...
14:59 < huebi> cu th ;-)
15:02 < rxr> huebi: du hast rcs aber auch schon schief angesehen ;-)
15:03 < huebi> rxr: Jo, Ich habe da keineLoesung gesehen, wie ich das zum kompilieren bringe. Da habe ich mir gedacht, bis eine funktionierende Loesung da ist, koennte ich das vielleicht erst mal disablen.
15:04 < huebi> oder zu den extensions verlegen.
15:06 < th> huebi: ich bin recht verwirrt warum dein commit keine datei touched...
15:06 < th> huebi: habe nochmal ne kleine aenderung gemacht.
15:06 < th> mal sehen ob was passiert
15:06 < huebi> ich commite mal was...
15:06 < huebi> ok?
15:06 < th> jo
15:08 < huebi> FERTIG
15:08 < th> Added Files:
15:08 < th>         autoconf-hack.patch 
15:08 < th>    0 -rw-r--r--   1 huebi    rockcvsu        0 May 29 15:08 committed
15:08 < huebi> /home/rockcvs/cvs/rock-1.5/base-config/rcs/autoconf-hack.patch,v
15:08 < th> jetz hat es geklappt
15:08 < th> sehr seltsam
15:09 < th> script anstossen...
15:10 < th> das update lief
15:10 < th> 23227 th        17   0  3028 3028  1120 R    64.5  1.1   0:05 perl
15:10 < th> 23228 th        12   0  1772 1772   604 S    22.5  0.6   0:01 cvs
15:11 < th> vielleicht war die aenderung jetzt jha schon ausreichend.
15:11 < th> ansonsten muss ich mal ein wenig mehr logen
15:11 < th> ersma abwarten
15:11 < th> s,logen,loggen,
15:11 < th> -rw-rw-r--   1 th       rockcvsu   294607 May 29 15:11 ChangeLog
15:11 < th> jo cvs2cl.pl war auch ok
15:12 < th> jetz aber weg
15:12 < huebi> cu ;-)
15:12 < fake> cu th!
15:12 < praenti> hiho
15:12 < fake> h/away
15:12 < fake> *argh*
15:13 < fake> hi praenti meinte ich.
15:13 < huebi> hi praenti 
15:13 < praenti_> huebi: was is eigentlich mit deinem cvs los_
15:13 < praenti_> s/_/?
15:14 < huebi> praenti_: Der CVS ist jetzt hier auf world
15:14 < praenti_> world?
15:14 < praenti_> opps. falsches window
15:14 < huebi> export CVSROOT=praenti@cvs.rocklinux.de:/home/rockcvs/cvs; export CVS_RSH=ssh
15:14 < praenti> das is das richtige\
15:14 < praenti> ahh. ok
15:15 < huebi> Alle Benutzer sind nun auch hier angelegt.
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15:15 < netcrow> hi
15:16 < praenti> hi netcrow 
15:17 < huebi> hi netcrow 
15:21 < praenti> ok. der co laeuft
15:21 < netcrow> praenti: warum bist du geklont hier?
15:21 < praenti> netcrow: weil der capek im moment immer die verbindung killt und ich den channel mitbekommen will und nicht wieder eine l[cke ywischendrin hab
15:22 < netcrow> capek? 
15:22 < praenti> ahh. ich hasse english-layout mit deutscher tastatur
15:22 < netcrow> hehe
15:22 < praenti> netcrow: server im OPN
15:23 < netcrow> aha
15:23 < praenti> der steht in wien. goethe erreich ich nicht mehr. ist inywischen ipv6
15:24 < netcrow> bingo soll auch ipv6 können ;)
15:24 < praenti> jepp. dann kann ich wieder auf den connecten...
15:25 < netcrow> komisch, das nur du da probs hast
15:30 < praenti> netcrow: im moment teste ich den hogan parallel. der sieht besser aus (steht in london)
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15:45 < praenti> argh. das Create-CD Skript baut scheisse. hab meine libraries verloren :-((
15:46 < praenti> is aber noch 1.5.14. des dumme is bloss das mein system schon wieder hin ist
15:52 < praenti> cu
15:55 < snyke> hmm
15:55 < snyke> weiss eina von euch das "szekszi bejbe;]" heisst? (*.pl)
15:56 < capchaos> sexy babe
15:56 < snyke> ah
15:56 < capchaos> nehm ich mal an
15:56 < snyke> ql
15:56 < capchaos> ;-)
15:56 < snyke> *g*
15:56 < capchaos> snyke = sexy babe ? *wunder*
15:56 < snyke> h, stimmt
15:56 < snyke> häß
15:56 < snyke> das weis ich ned.
15:56 < snyke> das müssen alle selber entscheiden
15:56 < snyke> :)
15:56 < snyke> hier drin muss das wohl nicht der fall sein, lassen wir das *:)
15:56 < capchaos> hehe yep+
15:59 < snyke> hm
16:00 < snyke> ihr kennt euch doch sicher mit dns aus oder?
16:00 < snyke> hm
16:02 < capchaos> das wissen wir erst nachdem du die frage gestellt hast ;)
16:02 < snyke> axo
16:02 < snyke> stimmt sorry
16:03 < snyke> vergess es hin und wieder die frage zu stellen um was es eigentlich geht *G*
16:04 < snyke> trion   IN      A       192.168.0.5
16:05 < snyke> er löst diese addy (trion.sharknt.ath.cx) ned auf
16:05 < snyke> gar keine
16:05 < snyke> werden alle als "sharknt.ath.cx" aufgelöst
16:05 < snyke> ip nach name geht einwandfrei
16:05 < snyke> name => ip geht nichtz
16:06 < snyke> und nun?
16:09 < capchaos> und mit anderen domains?
16:11 < suR3al> also kein reverse lookup
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16:18 < snyke> capchaos?
16:18 < snyke> andere domains?
16:19 < capchaos> snyke?
16:19 < capchaos> ja ..
16:19 < snyke> meinst du ob die funzen?
16:19 < snyke> abzufragen?
16:19 < capchaos> yep
16:19 < snyke> jap 
16:19 < snyke> sachen die er von ausserhalb bekommt gehn
16:19 < capchaos> hast du nen lokalen dns server oder den vom ISP ?
16:20 < snyke> lokal
16:20 < snyke> sonst könnt ich meine int. hosts ned auflösen
16:20 < capchaos> dann ist sharknt.ath.cx deine eigene domain?
16:20 < snyke> äh ja
16:20 < snyke> is halt so ne dyndomain
16:21 < snyke> aber früher hats auch funktioniern
16:21 < snyke> t
16:21 < snyke> also MUSS es funktioniern.
16:21 < capchaos> "frueher" ?
16:21 < snyke> vor dem plattencrash
16:21 < capchaos> hast du sharknt.ath.cx in /etc/hosts eingetragen?
16:21 < snyke> sek
16:22 < snyke> das steht drin
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16:38 < fake> re.
16:39 < snyke> re
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16:54 < fake> warning: #warning MIPS I atomicity functions are not atomi
16:54 < fake> sounds great.
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17:25 < fake> punkt punkt punkt.
17:31 < snyke> ...
17:58 < blindcoder> hi hi und rehi
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18:37 < capchaos> kennt jemand nen ntp server?
18:52 < fake> re.
18:52 < fake> cap> da gibts ne liste.....
18:52 < fake> mom
18:52 < capchaos> aah, wo?
18:53 < fake> 131.173.17.7
18:53 < fake> nehm ich
18:53 < fake> err...
18:53 < fake> No Route to host.
18:53 < capchaos> K danke
18:53 < capchaos> hm
18:53 < fake> ich nehme ihn wohl doch nicht ;)
18:53 < capchaos> lol
18:54 < fake> http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock2.htm
18:55 < capchaos> c00l danke
18:55 < fake> err. oder clock1.html
18:55 < fake> auf clock2 sind keine dt.
18:56 < capchaos> schaunmerma
18:56 < fake> 131.188.3.220
18:59 < blindcoder> re fake
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19:27 < fake> hi ringo
19:30 < th> re
19:32 < fake> quite quiet today...
19:35 < ringo78> codito ergo sum
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19:48 * fake reading linuxtag fortunes
19:53 < rxr> 2ew
19:53 < rxr> er
19:53 < rxr> re
19:55 < fake> re!
19:58 < fake> Joey, Deine Mailbox ist 1.2gb groß. Ich werde jetzt mal Gegenmaßnahmen einleiten, wir bekommen keine Mail mehr. 
19:58 < fake> *lol*
20:01 < blindcoder> ???
20:03 < huebi> re
20:06 < th> 1.2GB inbox?
20:06 < th> nur 2 filme?
20:07 < huebi> *lol*
20:08 < fake> th> plain text
20:08 < th> uuencode macht doch plain text, oder? ;)
20:08 < fake> ich glaubem, wer joey was anderes schickt, is tot ;)
20:08 < huebi> mime codierte filme...
20:09 < huebi> preprocesed for aalib ;-)
20:09 < th> hehe
20:09 < th> wtf is joey?
20:11 < huebi> an alias of fake ?
20:11 < th> prolly
20:11 < fake> joey is einer vom lxtag-team
20:12 < huebi> ah ich erinnere mich. Der war mal kurz hier
20:46 < huebi> ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v1.3/v1.3.6/gimp-1.3.6.tar.bz2 <- brand new
20:47 < huebi> ahh. It's unstable
20:49 < fake> from lxtag-fortunes: "fork(). Joey is the living example it works on people, too. -- Stefan Koerner" 
20:50 < fake> "PS: Deadline für die CDROMs ist Mittwoch. Warscheinlichkeit, daß bis dahin ein Master existiert: 0 Warum: Quality. -- Stefan Koerner, ROCK Linux"
20:53 < rxr> huebi: oh thanks I'll update it in 1.7
20:53 < huebi> bind, too 9.2.1
20:55 < huebi> fake: Which Mittwoch?
20:55 < fake> huebi: Today? *g* I dunno.
20:55 < fake> maybe it's from last year.
20:55 < huebi> Is it a mail from ripclaw?
20:56 < huebi> axo
21:03 < rxr> esden: here=
21:04 < rxr> ?
21:09 < fake> WTF is mi_MZ?
21:09 < fake> locale
21:10 < huebi> mitte Mainz?
21:11 < huebi> hehe
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21:14 < tsa> hi
21:14 < huebi> hi tsa 
21:14 < tsa> huhu huebi
21:15 < tsa> http://www.netppl.fi/~pp/Pics/a.jpg <- hehe ;-)
21:18 < huebi> *LOL*
21:20 < th> das is doch aber nicht wau? oder?
21:21 < tsa> ????
21:21 < th> wer issen das>
21:21 < tsa> alan cox?
21:21 < th> ahh
21:21 < tsa> hehe
21:21 < huebi> *gg*
21:23 < snyke> hm
21:23 < snyke> mein apache macht keine directory indexes mehr! *HEUL*
21:24 < fake> ich haette auch cox getippt
21:24 < fake> oder viro
21:24 < fake> aber eher cox.
21:26 < ringo_aw> how can I remote compute on a wxx machine displaying it under X (Sort of Pc-aw for linux)?
21:26 -!- ringo_aw is now known as ringo
21:27 < tsa> wxx?
21:28 < ringo> w89 /w95
21:28 < tsa> ah
21:28 < tsa> vnc.
21:28 < ringo> s/89/98/
21:28 < tsa> virtual network computing
21:28 < tsa> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/
21:29 < ringo> Ok I'll try it ! Thanks tsa !
21:29 < tsa> install vnc server on windoze box, use client on (linux/bsd/win)
21:29 < tsa> no problem
21:32 < fake> xvnviewer
21:32 < fake> xvncviewer
21:32 < fake> ;)
21:32 < fake> <ironic>it's horribly fast!</ironic>
21:33 < fake> generating locales....
21:33 < fake> th_TH.TIS-620... done
21:33 < th> ouhm?
21:33 < th> *blink*\
21:33 < fake> th_TH *lol*
21:33 < tsa> hehe
21:33 < th> grmpf
21:38 < fake> vi_VN.UTF-8...
21:38 < fake> vi VolksNation ?
21:39 < fake> maybe vienna... ;)
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21:44 < d3mian> hi
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21:53 < huebi> th: Why arn't you here? -> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/gallery/
22:02 < esden> hi all
22:02 < huebi> hi esden 
22:03 < esden> hi huebi
22:04 < huebi> I'm adapting the linux/linux-src packages to 1.5
22:06 < esden> cool my first dietlibc patch is in the dietlibc cvs !!! cool thing ;-)
22:06 < huebi> koll ;-)
22:08 < huebi> http://freshmeat.net/redir/xinetd/11943/url_tgz/xinetd-2.3.5.tar.gz <- new
22:13 < th> huebi: perhaps cause nobody put me there
22:15 < esden> th: you have not send me data about you ... so you got not included ;-) send my your data and you get included
22:15 < esden> ;-)
22:15 < th> esden: i know that rule
22:15 < th> ;-)
22:16 < huebi> th: Send esden some data, please ;-)
22:16 < th> huebi: aye
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22:19 < fake> okay... i _definitely_ need a faster mips.
22:19 < fake> glibc took 8 hours to build
22:20 < capchaos> hoert wer chaosradio?
22:20 * -> esden but not at the moment ... no time ... 
22:20 < esden> I will get the mp3 ;-)
22:20 < capchaos> if there will be one..
22:21 < esden> there has to be ane ... or otherwise some people will have to leave this world ;-)
22:22 < esden> cu all ... /me has to get ready
22:22 < huebi> fake: That's really slow. My SparcStation IPX needs about 23h. 
22:23 < capchaos> bye esden
22:23 < huebi> fake: Do you have a source for a faster machine?
22:23 < d3mian> cu esden
22:24 < th> esden: data has been sent
22:24 < capchaos> moin d3mian
22:25 < d3mian> hola capchaos
22:25 < capchaos> como estas?
22:25 < d3mian> bien, y tu?
22:26 < capchaos> bien
22:26 < d3mian> cool, ;)
22:27 < capchaos> yo
22:28 < huebi> I made a diff between linux-2.4.18 and linux-2.4.18-rc4
22:28 < huebi> only 4 lines are different.
22:29 < d3mian> ermm, really?
22:29 < huebi> d3mian: yes
22:29 < d3mian> lines in code or files list?
22:29 < huebi> lines in code
22:29 < huebi> I flood it
22:30 < huebi>  
22:30 < huebi> -EXTRAVERSION =
22:30 < huebi> +EXTRAVERSION = -rc4
22:30 < huebi>  
22:30 < huebi> diff -Nur linux-2.4.18/fs/binfmt_elf.c linux-2.4.18-rc4/fs/binfmt_elf.c
22:30 < huebi> +} else {
22:30 < huebi> +/* Executables without an interpreter also need a personality  */
22:30 < huebi> +SET_PERSONALITY(elf_ex, ibcs2_interpreter);
22:30 < huebi>  
22:30 < huebi> That's all
22:30 < capchaos> lol
22:32 < huebi> and binfmt_elf.o has now unresolved symbols. I switch back to 2.4.18. 
22:32 < d3mian> umm, why did they realese a rc if it doesnt have anything!
22:32 < d3mian> just a scential change. LOL!
22:32 < th> d3mian: well, the last rc should be the final, shouldn,t it?
22:33 < huebi> efectively 2 lines of code. Not worth to make such a noise about that.
22:33 < th> what is the personality of an executable?
22:49 < fake> huebi: ripclaw has an indy, IIRC... but that's not much faster.
22:50 * fake will watch anime now-
22:51 < fake> cya tomorrow - or maybe later ;)
22:51 < tsa> cu fake
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22:51 < d3mian> the running kernel during installation is the same after install ( i mean in the /trg ), the kernel you boot when installation finished? (are both the same?)
22:56 < SMP> d3mian: not the same, but nearly. but it is expected that you compile a kernel in the /trg chroot before you reboot
22:58 < d3mian> SMP: ok, ic. Da you know if latest rock has reiserfs support in target kernel ?
22:58 < SMP> don't know
22:59 < d3mian> i was planning about boot rock install cd from another kernel, make a reiserfs and install, so i asked if target kernel has also reiserfs support 
23:00 < huebi> d3mian: Not jet ;(
23:01 < d3mian> although i can make a boot partition and dont worry me about that, i always will boot over there
23:01 < d3mian> thanx huebi, SMP
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23:04 < huebi> d3mian: I plan to add some more boot images to the CD. But in the Moment I concentrate on upgrades in rock 1.6
23:04 < huebi> and debuging.
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23:04 < huebi> I modified some scripts to work together with cvs
23:05 < th> huebi: specify
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23:05 < uninvited> N`Abend !
23:06 < d3mian> cool huebi
23:07 < huebi> the CVS directories are often in the way of successfull copying directpries. Builld-All is modified and the Rest I forgot . It's now in my brain extension - cvs on world
23:07 < d3mian> i always though you could be able to choose different images
23:08 < huebi> up to 63 images are ok
23:08 < huebi> load is here now about 120
23:08 < d3mian> umm.. hehe
23:08 < d3mian> they are many
23:09 < d3mian> what's the prob about make a bigger boot image?
23:09 < d3mian> the size taken in floppy boot disks? 
23:09 < huebi> I think a good way is to boot a 2.88 MB Image an then mount the cd with a _big_ root fs
23:10 < th> ack
23:10 < d3mian> ok
23:10 < d3mian> so, use sth like this: root=/dev/cdroms/cdrom -ro in LILO , i guess
23:11 < huebi> 2.88 MB is the bigest floppy image possible to boot from cdrom.
23:11 < huebi> hdimages are also possible but don't work allmost allways
23:12 < d3mian> ic
23:12 < th> i don't think that more than 2.88 MB will be neccessary
23:12 < huebi> th ACK
23:12 < th> s,necc,nec,
23:12 < huebi> 2.88 is enough to mount the cdrom
23:12 < d3mian> nahh, my current kernel i guess is overloaded and it has 1,1 Mb, almost all i need is static in image
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23:15 < th> sf.net: We apologize, search is temporarily offline.
23:17 < tsa> Subject: Vulnerability in Apache Tomcat v3.23 & v3.24 
23:18 < tsa> huebi: didn't you install tomcat on a server just a few days ago?
23:19 < huebi> tsa: no, i didn't
23:21 < tsa> ah, ok
23:24 < huebi> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/fs/binfmt_elf.o <- ;(
23:24 < d3mian> hehe
23:27 < huebi> n8
23:27 < d3mian> cu huebi
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23:53 < hackbard> re :)
23:55 < d3mian> wb hackbard
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23:57 < d3mian> have to go to drink beer and some hours later start a smart work ;)
23:57 < d3mian> cu later guys
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