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--- Log opened Mon Jun 10 00:00:02 2002 --- Day changed Mon Jun 10 2002 00:02 -!- fronti__ [~kliche@zebra.fh-weingarten.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:02 < fronti__> moin 00:02 -!- fronti__ is now known as fronti 00:03 -!- uninvited [uninvited@217.89.4.212] has joined #ROCKLINUX 00:05 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD95906D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:06 -!- uninvited [uninvited@217.89.4.212] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:25 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD95906D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:35 < Freak> die hohen nummern, also so ziemlich die letzten (neuesten) bilder sind vom RockLinux-Vortrag im Forum --> https://linuid.dhis.org/~sraible/guckmal/lt2k2/images/ 00:39 -!- [anders] [~guest@62.3.122.166] has joined #rocklinux 01:13 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-218-255.woh.rr.com] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:15 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-218-255.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 01:44 < hackbard> n8 01:45 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9523D64.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:49 -!- term_aweh [~pm@pD958B014.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zz") 03:02 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD90485A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 03:40 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-218-255.woh.rr.com] has quit ("I don't care. I don't give a shit. Now Shut up.") 03:41 -!- Netsplit tenn.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: praenti, Freak, fronti 03:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Freak 03:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fronti, praenti 04:02 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048F59.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:31 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048F59.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 05:31 -!- lizard [~lizard@217.4.143.89] has joined #rocklinux 05:37 -!- lizard [~lizard@217.4.143.89] has quit ("leaving") 06:49 -!- esden [weasel@213.70.214.67] has joined #rocklinux 06:49 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux @ LinuxTag - https://www.rocklinux.org/ 06:49 -!- Topic set by th [Fri Jun 7 18:26:16 2002] 06:49 (Users #rocklinux) 06:49 [ [anders] ] [ coldie] [ Freak ] [ praenti] [ simon ] [ th] 06:49 [ aszlig ] [ esden ] [ fronti] [ rolla ] [ SMP ] 06:49 [ blindcoder] [ fake ] [ huebi ] [ rxr ] [ surprise] 06:49 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 16 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 06:49 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Apr 1 00:17:34 2002 06:49 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 7 secs 07:05 -!- [anders] [~guest@62.3.122.166] has quit ("Nice to see you, to see you...") 07:50 -!- freed [~neerod@pD9001E9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 07:50 < freed> hi 08:55 < freed> jemand da? 08:58 < aszlig> jep ;) 08:59 < freed> guten morgen 08:59 < aszlig> hullo 09:00 < freed> ich bekomm meine dvb-s card nicht an den start, kann mir da jemand helfen? 09:00 < aszlig> hmm, nope 09:00 < freed> schade 09:10 -!- tsa [~tsa@sec-01.bi.devcon.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:10 < tsa> Moin. 09:10 < tsa> *GAEHN* 09:35 -!- [anders] [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 09:36 < [anders]> re 09:36 < tsa> hi [anders] 09:36 < [anders]> morning tsa, you still at the fair? 09:40 < tsa> no, it ended yesterday.. 09:40 < tsa> still a little bit tired... ;) 09:48 < [anders]> heh, I can imagine.. 09:49 < tsa> we left from linuxtag yesterday about 6 pm, so i got home about midnight.. 09:49 < [anders]> the page with all the pictures on it, it would be great if people put comments under the pics.. Just so I can see who the people actually are.. 09:49 < tsa> godd idea. 09:49 < [anders]> ouch.. late night and up early.. 09:49 < tsa> yeah.. 10:04 < SMP> Early to bed and early to rise makes a man tired and grumpy. 10:04 < SMP> -- Dan Bernstein 10:04 < tsa> hehe...indeed. 10:04 < tsa> hi SMP 10:11 < aszlig> hi tsa ;) 10:11 < tsa> hi aszlig 10:12 < aszlig> tsa: urgh, /me forgot the cd :/ 10:12 < tsa> argh. 10:12 < aszlig> tsa: but its only a local exploit ;) 10:15 < aszlig> tsa: that means, that i gave them to somebody... but dunno wtf! erm.. *fuckinbrainlag*, but i'll meet him (or her? dunno, too!) on sunday... 10:15 < fronti> morning 10:15 < tsa> hi fronti 10:15 < tsa> aszlig: you're getting old, it seems.. 10:15 < tsa> ;) 10:16 < aszlig> tsa: but it has an advantage: i've got time to get an old i386 system for rl-tests (uuh, should not run build-tests on it)... 10:17 < aszlig> hehe, greets from alzheimer ;) 10:20 < aszlig> ahng: AlzHeimer Next Generation, maybe m$ should release a new wingdowze version after the "teletubbie attack"-release which had to do with some diseases :P 10:26 < tsa> aahhh.. 10:26 < tsa> hail and praise to the inventors of coffee. 10:27 < tsa> i even start getting awake. 10:27 < tsa> <- deeply impressed. ;) 10:28 -!- term_emu [~pm@p50819ACC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:42 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh 11:41 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:41 < holyolli> moin 11:44 < tsa> huhu olli 11:44 < tsa> wie schauts? 11:45 < holyolli> tsa: och...ganz gut. und selber? 11:45 < holyolli> ausgeschlafen? ;-) 11:46 < tsa> hm...nicht wirklich 11:47 < tsa> durfte ja um 7 aufstehen... seitdem inhaliere ich unmengen kaffee.. 11:47 < holyolli> hehe 11:47 < tsa> ich glaube, ich werde auch heute abend noch sehr gut schlafen koennen... 12:10 < aszlig> re 12:10 < aszlig> tsa: hehe, /me auch ;) 12:11 < holyolli> .oO(ist rxr eigendlich heile daheim angekommen?) 12:11 < aszlig> ka ;P 12:12 < tsa> holyolli: weiss nciht...afaik wollte der erst heute abend weiter nach berlin 12:12 < tsa> ist vorher wohl noch @home .. 12:17 < Freak> ähhhm 12:17 < Freak> *wink* 12:18 < Freak> mit wem hab ich denn Freitagabend noch gesprochen am Stand.. der hat auch den Vortrag im Forum gehalten.. falls er anwesend is, soll er sich ma melden :)) 12:18 < Freak> vielleicht is das ja auch eben jener rxr 12:18 < Freak> (man weiss ja nie) 12:18 < holyolli> wenn er deutsch konnte, ist das rxr 12:19 < Freak> vermutlich.. 12:19 < Freak> kennst du ihn persönlich? dann könnte ich dir das Foto zeigen wo er drauf is & du mir's bestätigen ;) 12:19 < tsa> www.rocklinux.org 12:20 < tsa> da ist nen link auf ne fotoseite vom linuxtag 12:20 < Freak> der nette junge mann auf der rechten Seite: https://linuid.dhis.org/~sraible/guckmal/lt2k2/images/IMG_0112.jpg 12:21 < holyolli> genau der 12:21 < Freak> ahh gut :) 12:22 < Freak> ich hab leider die dumme angewohnheit, net auf die namensschilder zu gucken ;) 12:22 < tsa> ja, das ist rene. 12:23 < Freak> ja, ich sahs im whois .. 12:23 < Freak> (: 12:23 < Freak> dank dir 12:23 < Freak> bzw euch 12:23 < tsa> kein problem 12:24 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048591.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:26 < fake> mornin' 12:27 < holyolli> hi fake 12:27 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048591.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 12:32 < tsa> moin fake 12:33 < tsa> Grr...Sybase-Entwickler alle erschiessen. 12:33 < holyolli> hehe 12:34 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0A67D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:34 < tsa> hi hackbard 12:35 < hackbard> hi tsa! 12:35 < hackbard> moin all 12:35 < tsa> 1> show databases; 12:35 < tsa> 2> go 12:35 < tsa> Msg 102, Level 15, State 1: 12:35 < tsa> Server 'webserver', Line 1: 12:35 < tsa> Incorrect syntax near ';'. 12:35 < tsa> kdhfgkjsdhfksdjhfjksdf!!!!!!!! 12:35 < tsa> SYBASE SUCKS. 12:36 < tsa> without ";" --> Stored procedure 'show' not found. 12:38 < tsa> 1> sp_helpdb 12:38 < tsa> 2> go 12:38 < tsa> this works. 12:38 < tsa> wasn't this an sql database? 12:38 < tsa> wondering.. 12:39 < tsa> find / -name syb* |xargs rm -f 12:39 < tsa> *grrr* 12:41 < holyolli> hi hackbard 12:55 < esden> hi all !!! 12:55 < esden> I RULE ;-) 12:55 < fronti> moin esdn 12:55 < esden> ich habe hm1 endlich bestanden 12:56 < esden> mit 3,3 !!! 12:56 < fronti> esden: gratulation 12:56 < esden> geil geil geil 12:56 < fronti> streber 12:56 < fronti> :) 12:56 < esden> lol 12:56 < esden> ja ich habe auch 3 monate gelernt ... 12:56 < fronti> :) 12:56 < esden> nicht die ganze zeit aber fuer meine verhaeltnisse viel 12:57 < esden> fronti: bist du neu hier ? ... 12:57 < fronti> esden: nicht ganz 12:57 < fronti> esden: wieder hier 12:57 < esden> aha ... 12:57 < holyolli> moin esden :) herzlichen glückwunsch 12:58 < fronti> esden: es gibt noch ein paar die mich kennen. hackbard zum beispiel 12:58 < esden> danke holyolli *verbeug* 12:58 < esden> asoo .... 12:58 < fronti> esden: damals war es hier noch klein und ueberschaulich 12:58 < esden> fronti: warst du am linuxtag ? 12:58 < fronti> esden: ja 12:58 < esden> dann musste ich dich gesehen haben 12:58 < esden> warst du der mit dem imac ? 12:59 < hackbard> yo olli! 12:59 < fronti> esden: nein. 12:59 < hackbard> huhu fronti 12:59 < esden> ... 12:59 < esden> hmm ... 12:59 < hackbard> esden: nein, das war max :) 12:59 < esden> hi hackbard !! 12:59 < fronti> moin hackbard 12:59 < hackbard> der hat kaum was mit rock am hut 12:59 < fronti> hackbard: :) 12:59 < hackbard> hi esden 12:59 < fronti> hackbard: frueher mal mehr.. ich weiss. aber die zeit ist einfach zu wenig 12:59 < hackbard> alle gut heimgekommen ? 12:59 * holyolli schon 12:59 < hackbard> fronti: ich meinet max, den mit dem imac :) 12:59 < esden> hackbard: ja ... ich weiss dass der imac typ nichts mit rock zu tun hat ... deshalb habe ich mich gewundert 13:00 < hackbard> dir unterstell ich doch nichts ;) 13:00 < hackbard> esden: :) 13:00 < fronti> hackbard: ach so. nur weil ich ja auch max heisse :) 13:00 < esden> also ich bin ohne probleme heim gekommen jolt hat mir dabei geholfen ;-) 13:00 < hackbard> fronti: echt? cooler zufall 13:00 < hackbard> esden: haha, nice :) 13:00 < fronti> hackbard: ja, echt :) 13:01 < esden> ich bin jetzt gerade in der uni ... 13:01 < hackbard> ich bin heute nicht gegangen, musst eerstmal auspennen 13:01 < holyolli> hackbard: bist du mit der bahn gefahren? 13:01 < hackbard> ne, corsa :) 13:01 < esden> dass ich fuhr heute in die uni und habe panik geschoben was ich fuer ne note fuer hm1 kriege ... 13:02 < hackbard> a8 richtung muenchen, aetzende fahrt 13:02 < hackbard> viel stai etc.. 13:02 < hackbard> stau 13:02 < holyolli> hackbard: ich dachte, du wohnst mehr richtung nrw..? 13:02 < esden> hackbard: ich habe nur einen stau in gegend von stuttgart gehabt 13:02 < hackbard> nope, augsburg 13:02 < holyolli> axxo 13:02 < hackbard> esden: afair war ich 2mal im stau 13:02 < esden> sonnst bin ich die ganze zeig mit 140 unterwegs ... 13:03 < hackbard> wo weiss ich nicht ;) 13:03 < esden> fuer meinen polo ist es viel ;-) 13:03 < esden> hackbard: kann sein dass es 2 waren ... 13:03 < hackbard> du bist etwas spaeter gefahren, vielleicht deswegen 13:03 * holyolli war auch nicht sooo schnell unterwegs..aber immerhin mit ner kaffeemaschine auf der fahrt ;-) 13:03 < esden> aber dass ist schon zu lange her dass ich mich erinnern koennte ;-) 13:04 < hackbard> btw, war chris schon weg, den habe ich garnichtmehr beim tschuess sagen gesehen, oder hatte ich ihn uebersehen? 13:04 < esden> holyolli: hast in der fahrt kaffee gekocht ? 13:04 < holyolli> nein. die maschine ;-) 13:04 < esden> holyolli: der war bis zum schluss da ... 13:04 < hackbard> vw bus ruled halt :) 13:05 < esden> er ist kurz bevor wir essen gegangen sind weg 13:05 < hackbard> ohh, dann habe ich ihn uebersehen, shit :( 13:05 < esden> hackbard: passiert ... 13:05 < esden> hackbard: brauchst halt brille ;-) 13:05 < hackbard> hehe :p 13:05 < esden> *gg* 13:06 < esden> soo jetzt mails abgrasen von den letzten 3 tagen ... uff 13:06 < hackbard> rock mailing liste war ertaunlich ruhig :)) 13:06 < fronti> esden: viel spass :) 13:06 < hackbard> ich pack denn auch mal koffer aus, etc .. 13:06 < fronti> hackbard: das ging wohl eher muendlich :) 13:07 < hackbard> fronti: joar :) 13:07 < esden> Warum sind in Polen die Kreisverkehre viel groesser als bei uns? Damit sie mit der Lenkradsperre herum kommen. 13:07 < esden> looool 13:08 < esden> der ist gut ... den habe ich noch nicht gekannt 13:08 < esden> lool 13:08 < hackbard> rofl 13:08 < holyolli> *lol* 13:08 < tsa> lol. 13:08 < esden> hackbard: sicher war die ruhig ... denn die die posten waren am lxtag beschaeftigt 13:10 < tsa> ack.. 13:11 < tsa> naja, ich fahr mal richtung uni.. 13:11 < tsa> cu all 13:11 < tsa> bis spaeter irgendwann. 13:11 -!- tsa [~tsa@sec-01.bi.devcon.net] has quit ("wech.") 13:11 -!- uninvited [uninvited@pD959057A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ROCKLINUX 13:11 < fake> so. 13:11 < uninvited> moinsen ! 13:11 < fake> hi esden hackbard uninvited fronti 13:12 < hackbard> re fake 13:15 < fronti> moin fake 13:17 < esden> hi fake !!! 13:18 < esden> fake: Ich habe mathe bestanden !!!!! mit 3,3 !!! *jump* 13:18 < esden> hi uninvited ! 13:19 < fake> esden> cool! 13:19 < uninvited> 3,3 ? Und du freust dich ? Respekt ;-) 13:21 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 13:21 < armijn> re 13:21 < uninvited> Okay. Cya later must restart network completely for DHCP support. 13:22 < fake> hi armijn ! 13:22 < armijn> hi fake 13:22 < armijn> so...LinuxTag is over... 13:22 < aszlig> hullo fake 13:22 < aszlig> re 13:22 -!- uninvited [uninvited@pD959057A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving towards earth !") 13:23 < holyolli> hi armijn 13:23 < armijn> hi holyolli 13:26 -!- freed [~neerod@pD9001E9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:38 < esden> soo ... abgegrast ... 13:38 < esden> puhh 13:39 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 13:39 (Users #rocklinux) 13:39 [ [anders] ] [ esden ] [ hackbard] [ rolla] [ surprise ] 13:39 [ aszlig ] [ fake ] [ holyolli] [ rxr ] [ term_aweh] 13:39 [ blindcoder] [ Freak ] [ huebi ] [ simon] [ th ] 13:39 [ coldie ] [ fronti] [ praenti ] [ SMP ] 13:39 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 19 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal] 13:41 < esden> fake: gut heim gekommen? wann holst die indy ab ? 13:42 < fake> esden: freitag, wies aussieht 13:56 < esden> fake: gut ... wann bist du wieder in in ... dass naechste wochenende ? 13:59 < esden> hmm .. ich glaube ich habe fremde sachen mitgenommen ... 13:59 < esden> ich komme wie immer mit mehr zuerueck ... 13:59 < esden> hmm 13:59 < esden> ja .... 13:59 < esden> huebi's platte wird mutieren ... 14:00 < esden> ich liebe es wenn hardware mutiert ... vorallem zu was besserem ... *gg 14:00 < esden> * 14:01 < fake> esden> Pole! 14:03 < esden> fake: :-* 14:04 < esden> fake: wann kommst dann ? ... ... ... 14:05 < holyolli> esden: aber meine alpha-platten hast du nicht, oder? ;-) 14:05 < esden> ich habe hunger ... wer bestellt was ? 14:05 < holyolli> esden: www.bringdienst.de 14:05 < esden> holyolli: noe ... 14:05 < esden> holyolli: und wer zahlt ? du ? 14:05 < holyolli> esden: och nöööö ;-) 14:06 < esden> ich habe kein ö hier auf der tastatur ... 14:06 < esden> ich muss mir was ueberlegen ... 14:12 < holyolli> *hm* 14:12 < holyolli> man xmodmap? ;-) 14:13 -!- rxr [~rene@port-213-20-128-234.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:13 < holyolli> .oO(no route to home hätte gestern besser gepasst *fg* ;-) 14:15 < esden> rofl 14:25 -!- uninvited [uninvited@B569c.pppool.de] has joined #ROCKLINUX 14:27 -!- uninvited [uninvited@B569c.pppool.de] has quit (Client Quit) 14:35 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048579.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:36 -!- root [~root@pD90096EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:36 < lizard> hi root ;-) 14:37 -!- root [~root@pD90096EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 14:37 < lizard> hehe 14:37 < fake> kline fuer root@* 14:46 -!- klaus [~root@pD90096EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:47 < holyolli> args! ein root-ircer...immer noch 14:47 < holyolli> ;-) 14:47 < holyolli> hallo klaus...es empfiehlt sich vieleicht _nicht_ als root zu ircen, falls dir die systemsicherheit deines rechners wichtig ist... 14:48 -!- klaus [~root@pD90096EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("BitchX-1.0c19 -- just do it.") 15:11 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:16 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!") 15:35 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:43 < huebi> re 15:43 < fake> hi huebi! 15:43 < huebi> hi fake 15:43 < huebi> ;-) 15:44 < huebi> Scheiss Dokumentation!!! 15:45 < fake> wenn ich jemand kennen wuerde der doku sheisst... 15:46 < huebi> fake: Mal Mathilda mit Papier und Tinte fuettern... hehe 15:47 < huebi> Ich bin so ein bischen am automatisiertem Dokumentationssystem am planen. Mal sehen, was da geht. 15:49 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o SMP] by ChanServ 15:49 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+b *!*root@*] by SMP 15:49 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:49 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o SMP] by SMP 15:50 < huebi> SMP: Was hast du ebend gemacht? Globale Sperre fuer root in #rocklinux? 15:51 < Freak> hehe 15:51 < SMP> quasi 15:51 < Freak> für alles was den usernamen root angegeben hat 15:51 < Freak> (wobei das nix heissen muss, ich könnte das auch eintragen hier in der konfig ;) 15:51 < huebi> Axo... 15:51 < huebi> Danke. 16:00 < fake> su toor 16:00 < fake> ;) 16:01 -!- Lorini [~Lorini@p508091B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:01 < huebi> fake: und Odin? 16:05 < fake> odin is bei rock nicht default ;P 16:05 < fake> ausserdem heisst der thor 16:12 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048579.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 16:14 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048579.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:14 < fake> su -c 'cat /etc/passwd | grep toor' 16:17 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 16:17 < armijn> re 16:23 < fake> question 16:24 < fake> what does the "~" in front of a username mean? 16:24 < fake> dialup ? 16:26 -!- simon- [~simon@p50874CDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:26 < netcrow> fake: man or woman ;-) 16:32 < [anders]> fake: in what context? 16:32 < fake> irc 16:32 < fake> bitchx 16:32 < fake> maybe it's a client thing, i have no idea ;) 16:32 < fake> <--- IRC idiot 16:32 < [anders]> fake: in Unix, if you do "cd ~user" you cd to that users homedir... 16:32 < fake> anders? 16:32 < fake> if you cd ~ 16:33 < fake> .... well, i knew that. 16:33 < [anders]> it is a way of denoting a user/useraccount.. :) 16:34 < [anders]> webservers use similar notation.. 16:34 < fake> [anders]: i mena. 16:34 < fake> mean 16:34 < fake> -:- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:34 < fake> but 16:35 < fake> -:- Lorini [~Lorini@p508091B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:35 < [anders]> would probably depend on the client and how they present the username.. 16:36 < fake> probably? so you don't know either? 16:36 < armijn> ah well 16:36 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 16:37 < [anders]> well, I can not say for sure, but I have a good idea that it is the client.. 16:37 < [anders]> If you think about it, we are all connected to the same server, so it would not be the server doing it... 16:37 < [anders]> that leaves the client software.. 16:39 < [anders]> netcrow and Lorini could still be using the same client s/w, but I doubt it.. 16:39 < fake> well, i'll ask SMP when he's here. he knows for sure ;) 16:39 < [anders]> if they do, there will be a setting (somewhere) in the client that determines how to present the userid@host.. 16:39 < [anders]> fake: hehehe.... :) 16:39 < netcrow> i use irssi 16:40 < Lorini> i use xchat 16:40 < fake> hm :-/ 16:40 -!- simon [~simon@pD9E1D83F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:41 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has quit ("BitchX: the ONLY bug-free client") 16:41 < [anders]> I'm reasonably shure that is is up to the client to present that to the server.. I know that IRSSI will allow you to manipulate the username at least.. 16:41 < [anders]> s/is is/it is/ 16:41 -!- simon- is now known as simon 16:42 < fake> i'm not satisfied. 16:42 < Lorini> lol 16:42 < [anders]> fake: go read the RFC ... ;-) 16:43 < fake> okay. 16:44 < [anders]> I don't know the number of it.. hang on a sec and I'll see if I can find it.. 16:44 < netcrow> https://groups.google.com/groups?q=tilde+im+irc&hl=de&lr=&selm=slworkD2AuGx.Aw1%40netcom.com&rnum=3 16:45 < netcrow> The tilde is there 16:45 < netcrow> when the IRC server can't get verified information from an IdentD on 16:45 < netcrow> the user who's making the connection 16:45 < [anders]> Interesting reading.. 16:45 < [anders]> I am not running identd, and not very likely to do so either... 16:45 < [anders]> not to mention that I am faking the user-id through the client.. 16:51 < [anders]> IRC RFC: https://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc1459.html 16:53 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-172-233.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:53 < fake> netcrow: i guessed right ;) 16:56 -!- Freak [~freak@p508395E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Connection timed out) 16:59 -!- freed [~neerod@pD9001E3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:00 -!- Freak [~freak@pD9530938.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:01 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:05 < huebi> cu later 17:08 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriFEIERN 17:12 < rolla> I am having trouble with my dowload part of the build . What is curl ? 17:14 < hackbard> hi rolla 17:14 < rolla> hello 17:14 < hackbard> [T] curl is a client to get documents/files from or send docu- 17:14 < hackbard> [T] ments to a server, using any of the supported protocols 17:14 < hackbard> [T] (HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, FTPS, GOPHER, DICT, TELNET, LDAP or FILE). 17:14 < rolla> hmm 17:14 < hackbard> :) 17:15 < hackbard> do you already run a rock system? 1.5.12? 17:15 < rolla> hmm I think the version I have and the one rocklnux want are differnat 17:15 < rolla> no 17:15 < rolla> I am trying to build my first one 17:15 < hackbard> okay 17:15 < hackbard> so it is installed? 17:15 < rolla> yes 17:15 < rolla> version 7.9.5 17:16 < hackbard> must work, i have 7.9.3 :) 17:16 < rolla> hmm 17:16 < hackbard> so paranoia check fails, right? 17:16 < rolla> it seems to be working in part somethings are being downloaded 17:16 < rolla> yes 17:17 < hackbard> hmm, strange 17:17 < hackbard> let me see .. 17:17 < rolla> I will have to wait till it is done and see what it says . 17:18 < rolla> thanks 17:18 < hackbard> ah, so download works? 17:19 < hackbard> or did you disable paranoia check? 17:19 < hackbard> what do you get when typing: type -p curl 17:24 < fake> woohoo! 17:24 < fake> 12 MB/s ! 17:24 < fake> 15 17:24 < fake> 17 17:25 < fake> sw33t! 17:25 < fake> hat kpnquest aufgehoert das netz zu belasten? *fg* 17:25 < hackbard> :) 17:33 * fake muss zur post -_- 17:33 < fake> fahre dann gleich heim 17:33 < fake> bis nacher 17:34 < hackbard> bei 17 MB/s ? ;) 17:34 < hackbard> later fake 17:34 < netcrow> bye fake 17:34 * [anders] has been trying out a new build of the software here at work as well as writing my new webpage.. 17:35 < [anders]> glimmer is a neat editor.. but I will probably go back to using Emacs.. 17:45 < rolla> ack 17:47 -!- [anders] [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit ("Nice to see you, to see you...") 17:48 < fronti> re 18:17 -!- Netsplit zahn.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: rolla, praenti, LoriFEIERN, fronti, Freak, sockmonk, huebi, netcrow, coldie, simon, (+10 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 18:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: hackbard 18:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Freak 18:25 -!- Freak [~freak@pD9530938.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Excess Flood) 18:26 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048579.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:27 -!- esden [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:27 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux @ LinuxTag - https://www.rocklinux.org/ 18:27 -!- Topic set by th [Fri Jun 7 18:26:16 2002] 18:27 (Users #rocklinux) 18:27 [ blindcoder] [ esden] [ Freak] 18:27 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 3 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 3 normal] 18:27 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Apr 1 00:17:34 2002 18:27 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 6 secs 18:27 -!- LoriFEIERN [~Lorini@p508091B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:07 -!- esden [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:07 (Users #rocklinux) 19:07 [ esden] [ Freak] [ hackbard] [ simon] [ th] 19:07 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 5 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 5 normal] 19:07 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Jun 10 19:05:11 2002 19:07 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 7 secs 19:07 -!- blindcoder [crash@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 < armijn> I hate netsplits 19:09 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@paradome.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:09 -!- huebi [huebi@rocklinux.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:10 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-172-233.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:10 < th> hi huebi 19:10 -!- freed [~neerod@pD9001E3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:11 -!- term_aweh [~pm@p50819ACC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:14 < armijn> huebi awake? 19:19 < armijn> I'll take that as a "no" 19:20 < hackbard> yo armijn 19:20 < hackbard> yeah, i think he is in work .. 19:20 < armijn> ok 19:21 < armijn> I just sent out a gentle reply to ripclaw 19:21 < armijn> I reniced myself 19:24 < hackbard> which one? that from 18:20 ? 19:24 < armijn> no, I just sent it 19:24 < armijn> still in the "ether" 19:24 < hackbard> okay 19:25 < hackbard> so armijn, when di you change to 1.7 tree with sparc ? 19:25 < armijn> when I will change? 19:25 < armijn> not soon 19:25 < hackbard> its just because i dont get glibc build and dont know how to make it :) 19:25 < armijn> on what kind of machine? 19:25 < armijn> ultra 5? 19:25 < armijn> what's the error? 19:26 < hackbard> tried it on both, intel and the sparc64 itself with jans image 19:26 < hackbard> it misses crti.o in /usr/lib64 19:26 < armijn> jans image 19:26 < armijn> duh 19:26 < hackbard> yes i know 19:26 < hackbard> but .. 19:26 < armijn> duh 19:26 < armijn> duh 19:26 < armijn> duh 19:26 < hackbard> ;) 19:26 < armijn> argh 19:26 < armijn> I solved that *ages* ago 19:26 < hackbard> ohh 19:26 < armijn> but I'll be nice today 19:27 < armijn> first, we'll fix yuour /usr/include 19:27 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:27 < armijn> hackbard: you behind the machine? or logged into it? 19:27 < hackbard> gimme a second .. 19:27 < armijn> just one :) 19:28 < armijn> dumdidum 19:29 < armijn> dum. 19:29 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.WRonline.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:29 < armijn> hackbard: will be back in a few minutes... 19:29 < hackbard> okay 19:29 < hackbard> its now booting 19:30 < hackbard> had to power my hub (forgot that) 19:31 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 19:31 < Mike1> hi 19:33 < armijn> hackbard: let me know when it's up 19:33 < hackbard> it is 19:33 < hackbard> you may also login! 19:33 < hackbard> ssh -p 1622 root@hackdaworld.dyndns.org 19:33 < armijn> hackbard: nah, you need to do all the work 19:33 < armijn> ok, ok 19:33 < hackbard> hehe, sure 19:33 < hackbard> i will! 19:34 < armijn> k, am in 19:34 < hackbard> so how to fix the includes? 19:35 < armijn> did you already compile a new kernel? 19:35 < armijn> 2.4.something? 19:35 < hackbard> yes, on huebis machine 19:35 < armijn> but on this machine? 19:36 < hackbard> i tried with gcc3.1 but that one didnt work for me 19:36 < armijn> ok 19:36 < hackbard> though the build didnt fail 19:36 < armijn> you got the rock 1.5.15 scripts? 19:37 < hackbard> i just have 1.7 tree ... thast why i asked :) 19:37 < armijn> there are some essential things in the 1.5.15 tree you will need 19:37 < armijn> some scripts 19:37 < hackbard> okay 19:37 < hackbard> i am going to download it 19:38 < hackbard> btw, all the stuff is under /mnt/lfs 19:38 < armijn> the kernel expects to be compiled with sparc64-linux-gcc 19:38 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ("[BX] Dr. Kavorkian is DYING to use BitchX. Aren't you?") 19:39 < hackbard> yes, thast why i did all that symlinks under build/default-...../tools/bin 19:39 < hackbard> thast where the crosscomiler is located 19:39 < armijn> crosscompiler? 19:39 < hackbard> sure 19:39 < armijn> cd /opt/egcs64-no-path/ 19:39 < armijn> cd bin 19:40 < hackbard> uname says we are on 64 bit, but actually its just the kernel :) 19:40 < hackbard> nor? 19:40 < armijn> ln -s sparc64-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc sparc64-linux-gcc 19:40 < armijn> root@sparc:/opt/egcs64-no-path/bin# which sparc64-linux-gcc 19:40 < armijn> /opt/egcs64-no-path/bin/sparc64-linux-gcc 19:40 < hackbard> yes, cuz i booted it up again 19:41 -!- fronti [~kliche@zebra.fh-weingarten.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:41 < hackbard> normaly i would now remove it out of PATH 19:41 < hackbard> re fronti 19:41 < aszlig> rehullo ;) 19:41 < armijn> hackbard: no, you don't want to 19:41 < armijn> hackbard: now you've got the right compiler to build kernels 19:41 < hackbard> so i dont want to use the crosscompiler .. 19:41 < armijn> no 19:41 < armijn> not yet 19:42 < hackbard> okay 19:42 < armijn> hackbard: first you need a system that's a bit sane 19:42 < armijn> hackbard: it's time for a make dep :) 19:42 < hackbard> and we are also going to compile 32 bit userland? 19:42 < armijn> hackbard: at first 19:42 < hackbard> because that schould all work .. 19:42 < armijn> hackbard: first we're going to fix the glibc problem 19:42 < hackbard> okay! 19:43 < armijn> argh! 19:43 < armijn> urgh... 19:43 < armijn> some stuff is wrong... 19:43 < armijn> hmm 19:44 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:44 < snyke> ARGH 19:44 < aszlig> arghs! 19:44 < snyke> ARGHS 19:44 < snyke> wo is der nickserv 19:44 < snyke> wo is chanserv 19:44 * aszlig 's leavin... 19:44 < snyke> warum is mein nickname und der channel futsch 19:44 < armijn> hehe 19:44 < aszlig> snyke: netsplit? 19:44 < snyke> hm 19:44 < armijn> snyke: because you speak german 19:44 < snyke> ah sorry 19:44 < armijn> the people at openprojects don't like gemrans 19:44 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Client Quit) 19:44 < armijn> there was a severe netsplit 19:45 < armijn> hehehehehe 19:45 < armijn> sorry, couldn't resist 19:45 < aszlig> snyke - *lol* 19:45 < aszlig> hrhr 19:45 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:45 < snyke> i that reason that my nickname is not saved? 19:45 < snyke> in a netsplit??? 19:45 < armijn> *severe* netsplit 19:45 < aszlig> do you think quitting should change anything? 19:46 < armijn> hackbard: downloading egcs64, gonna build it from scratch first 19:46 < hackbard> is cc1 just another compiler ? 19:46 < aszlig> okay, goin' smoke, c'ya 19:46 < armijn> hackbard: it is used by gcc, quite important actually 19:46 < snyke> aszlig: i actually KNOW what a netsplit is 19:47 < hackbard> armijn: aha, but we are using egcs, so why need cc1 from gcc ? 19:47 < aszlig> aszlig: but maybe you're not familar with some irc-commands ;P 19:47 < aszlig> bbl 19:47 < snyke> I just didn't know that nick and chanserv forget my nick&channel that way. by the way i changed server from carter to tenn 19:47 < armijn> hackbard: egcs is gcc... 19:47 < armijn> so 19:47 < hackbard> oh :) - didnt now that 19:47 < armijn> both the same set up 19:47 < hackbard> +k 19:47 < armijn> I'm gonna rebuild egcs64 from scratch... 19:48 < armijn> hackbard: I unpacked egcs64 in /tmp, I will configure it to build in /usr/local 19:49 < hackbard> hmm 19:49 < armijn> hackbard: I won't install it in /usr, because it will then overwrite the normal gcc 19:49 < hackbard> we _schoud_ use opt! 19:49 < armijn> ah, who cares :) 19:49 < hackbard> hmm, okay :) 19:49 < armijn> :) 19:50 < armijn> you want to rebuild everything later anyway, so 19:50 < armijn> hackbard: already downloaded rock 1.5.15 sources? 19:50 < hackbard> no tried to download egcs64 19:50 < hackbard> but it seems to not be in rock 19:51 < hackbard> i ll downlaod 5.15 now 19:51 < hackbard> .. 19:51 < armijn> good 19:51 < armijn> :) 19:52 -!- praenti [mo1032@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:52 < armijn> hmm..gotta take a piss 19:53 < hackbard> much fun :) 19:53 < hackbard> rocklinux.dyndns.org seems to be down .. 19:55 < armijn> hackbard: ftp://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.15/ 19:55 < hackbard> thx, downloading .. 19:56 < hackbard> there are no official links on the main poages .. :( 19:56 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048506.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:56 < armijn> well...there is one...kinda 19:57 < hackbard> /mnt/lfs/rock/rock-src-1.5.15 <- done 19:58 < armijn> hackbard: go to the subdir "misc" 19:58 < armijn> hackbard: and, ehr...unpack it first :) 19:59 < armijn> hackbard: better hurry, only got about 45 minutes left to help you fix everything 19:59 < armijn> which is actually all I need, but I will need some help 19:59 < hackbard> it is 19:59 < hackbard> i am already in misc :) 19:59 < hackbard> :p 19:59 < armijn> hackbard: want to know why the egcs64 failed? 20:00 < hackbard> jup 20:00 < armijn> hackbard: /opt/egcs64-no-path/bin/sparc64-unknown-linux-gcc -print-search-dirs 20:00 < armijn> that says that it looks in /opt/egcs64/lib, etc 20:00 < hackbard> aha 20:00 < hackbard> i move it back! 20:00 < armijn> so, you cannot just simply rename directories... 20:01 -!- uninvited [uninvited@pD9E5093C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ROCKLINUX 20:01 < armijn> hackbard: nah, not really necessary, building new egcs64 :) 20:01 < hackbard> well, in my case i never wanted to use it .. 20:01 < armijn> much more fun 20:01 < hackbard> hehe, okay 20:01 < uninvited> hello 20:01 < armijn> well, it is the official kernel compiler 20:01 < armijn> it still is, even though rxr claims that we safely can use gcc 3.1 20:01 < armijn> even though the sparc maintainer said last week that we still need egcs64 20:01 < hackbard> yeah 20:02 < hackbard> he ais his one is working 20:02 < armijn> hackbard: go to misc and copy the "generate-asm" script to /usr/bin 20:02 < hackbard> and his one is also realy boting here 20:02 < hackbard> but my attempts failed .. :( 20:02 < armijn> hackbard: ah well... 20:02 < armijn> hackbard: it's better to stick with egcs64 for now 20:02 < armijn> no matter what rxr says... 20:02 < armijn> hmm..brb 20:02 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:03 < fake> wtf? 20:07 < snyke> ? 20:07 < snyke> gibts dich noch? 20:07 < snyke> ah sorry....english 20:07 < snyke> lol "FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE will be released when it's ready." 20:09 < armijn> hackbard: still there? 20:10 < hackbard> sure 20:10 < armijn> hackbard: copied the script? 20:10 < hackbard> yep 20:10 < armijn> cool 20:10 < armijn> hackbard: add /usr/local/bin to your path 20:11 < armijn> ah, is already tehre 20:12 < armijn> argh, argh, argh...misconfigured egcs64 20:12 < armijn> grr 20:12 < hackbard> ? 20:13 < armijn> hackbard: name is wrong, so... 20:13 < armijn> hackbard: now it's there as sparc64-unknown-linux-gnu 20:13 < armijn> hackbard: I'll just add a symlink... 20:14 < hackbard> btw, i moved egcs back to /opt/egcs64 20:14 < armijn> k 20:15 < armijn> ok, make dep is running 20:15 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802EB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:15 < hackbard> i am going to look what that generate-asm script is doing .. 20:15 < hackbard> hi chrisime 20:16 < armijn> hackbard: do /usr/local/bin/gcc --version and then you'll see why I didn't install egcs64 in /usr/bin 20:16 < armijn> hackbard: oh, the generate-asm script is pretty easy... 20:16 < armijn> hackbard: it decides which header file it has to choose, sparc or sparc64 20:17 < hackbard> okay 20:18 < armijn> hackbard: when the make dep is done, I want you to remove /usr/include asm (the symlink) 20:18 < armijn> and copy /usr/src/linux/include/asm-sparc and asm-sparc64 to /usr/include 20:18 < hackbard> okay 20:18 < armijn> then run generate-asm 20:18 < hackbard> i think its done now 20:18 -!- uninvited [uninvited@pD9E5093C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Leaving towards earth !") 20:19 < armijn> hackbard: you sure? 20:19 < armijn> ah, working on it :) 20:20 < armijn> hackbard: cool, now check the header files in /usr/include/asm 20:21 < armijn> hackbard: and then you'll see what the generate-asm thing does... 20:21 < hackbard> okay, lots of header files there :) 20:21 < armijn> hackbard: now you'd be ready to build 1.5.15 (or 1.5.16 or whatever) 20:21 < armijn> and build a complete working ROCK system 20:22 < hackbard> okay! 20:22 < hackbard> but still 32 bit userland .. 20:22 < armijn> hackbard: ehr, yeah, and a few minor glitches, such as "modules" 20:22 < armijn> and "silo" 20:22 < hackbard> and as i said, if i remember correctly, that also perfectly worked with 1.7 if just defined sparc 20:22 < th> ICH /win 13 20:22 < th> oups 20:23 < hackbard> hi th! 20:23 < armijn> hackbard: well, but it isn't a sparc... 20:23 < armijn> hackbard: and this also solves the kernel issue... 20:23 < th> hi hackbard 20:24 < hackbard> okay, but we have to use egcs for the kernel, so building normal sparc and after that build the kernel with egcs would be the same .. 20:24 < armijn> hackbard: well, at least you've got a sane system now (remember to also run generate-asm in /usr/src/linux/include) 20:24 < armijn> hackbard: I already take care of "building as normal sparc" in the scripts 20:25 < hackbard> okay 20:25 < hackbard> i will tyr a 5.15 build then 20:25 < armijn> hackbard: in ./scripts/Build-Pkg (search on sparc) 20:25 < hackbard> but it will take me some time to download the whole packages 20:26 < hackbard> thnx armijn! 20:26 < armijn> hackbard: and also "modules" doesn't work yet :(( 20:26 < armijn> and there are no optimizations yet 20:27 -!- rolla [~Der@stlmaisenhel.ugs.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:27 < rolla> hey My download is puking about curl again 20:27 < hackbard> armijn: reason? 20:27 < hackbard> wb rolla 20:28 < rolla> yeah 20:28 < rolla> my buffer ran out again and lost the error 20:28 < rolla> this is making me mad something about segfaults and the like 20:29 < armijn> hackbard: reason, I didn't integrate that into the scripts yet 20:29 < rolla> and it is leaving core file in my rocklinux dir 20:29 < hackbard> armijn: so that egcs64 is used for that, right? 20:29 < armijn> hackbard: for optimizations? 20:31 < armijn> hackbard: no, the optimizations are used by normal gcc 20:31 < hackbard> well, for the modules ..(if the kernel needs egcs instead of normal gcc, modules will needt it too) 20:31 < armijn> ehr, egcs64, not egcs :) 20:31 < hackbard> aha 20:31 < hackbard> yeah, sure :) 20:31 < armijn> hackbard: the reason why modules fails is because of something else... 20:31 < hackbard> but --version says rgcs :p 20:31 < hackbard> s/r/e/ 20:31 < armijn> hackbard: the config for linux and mouldes are almost identical 20:32 < armijn> and in fact, it shouldn't have been like this at all 20:32 < hackbard> aha 20:32 < armijn> (and will be solved in the next release) 20:32 < armijn> hackbard: if you want to I can patch it for you now :) 20:32 < hackbard> sure 20:32 < armijn> ok, gimme a few minutes 20:32 < hackbard> we will then test it, and if it works you can submit it 20:32 < hackbard> i ll begin downloading the packages .. 20:33 -!- the][owl [~mail-spam@B5496.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:33 < the][owl> hi 20:33 -!- rolla_ [~Der@stlmaisenhel.ugs.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:33 < armijn> well, I just saw that huebi has already made a few changes to the CVS tree, but I can't access it right now :( 20:33 -!- rolla_ [~Der@stlmaisenhel.ugs.com] has left #rocklinux () 20:34 < hackbard> so if there is no opt. yet, i ll leave it to v7, okay? 20:34 < hackbard> yeah, it seems to be down :( 20:34 < hackbard> hi the][owl 20:35 < armijn> hackbard: yeah, but you can also set it to v8 if you like... 20:35 < armijn> it will work on your machine 20:37 < armijn> hackbard: ehr...domn't know how to fix it... 20:37 < armijn> hackbard: you online tomorrow? 20:38 < hackbard> maybe a bit later, but i think i will 20:38 < armijn> hackbard: what is a bit later? 20:38 < hackbard> well, early afternoon :) 20:38 < armijn> hackbard: ok... 20:38 < hackbard> 18 o clock :) 20:39 < armijn> hackbard: just start a build and I'll fix the "modules" stuff tomorrow, ok? 20:39 < hackbard> sure! 20:39 < hackbard> i hope download will finish while i am awake 20:39 < armijn> hehe 20:39 < hackbard> :) 20:39 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:39 < hackbard> re olli ! 20:39 < holyolli> re 20:39 < armijn> and just build "base", ok? no optional packages, no extensions 20:39 < hackbard> okay 20:40 < hackbard> i made alsa scripts for huebi, but he didnt merge them in his tree 20:40 < hackbard> still o9beta 20:40 < hackbard> s,o,0, 20:41 < armijn> hmm 20:42 < hackbard> well, i think it is not needed for sparc* anyways 20:42 < hackbard> :) 20:42 < armijn> not yet 20:42 < armijn> sound isn't too well supported 20:43 < armijn> hehe, I could use you as a build monkey! 20:43 < armijn> great! 20:43 < hackbard> hehe :p 20:47 < rolla> how stable is mip support for rock ? 20:49 < armijn> mip? 20:49 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048506.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 20:49 < rolla> SGI stuff 20:49 < armijn> ah, MIPS 20:49 < armijn> well, we're working on it 20:49 < rolla> :) 20:49 < armijn> but Linux on MIPS is not that advanced 20:49 < rolla> very true 20:50 < rolla> I have old Challenge S that is needing something to due 20:50 < armijn> I don't think that one is supported 20:50 < armijn> you should check the Debian webpage 20:51 < rolla> it is same as indy just no graphics card 20:51 < armijn> hmm... 20:52 < armijn> well, check the debian webpage anyway 20:52 < armijn> because that's what you'd need to build ROCK in the first place, a working Linux install 20:52 < armijn> and so far, there's nothing but Debian that runs smoothly on MIPS 20:53 < rolla> true 20:53 < rolla> I am looking at it right now :) 20:54 < fake> wuahah 20:56 < armijn> rolla: but if you really want to do anything with mips, talk to mr. fake here 20:56 < armijn> >:-> 20:56 < armijn> it's time to go home... 20:57 < rolla> nod 20:57 < armijn> I'm leaving, cu 20:57 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 20:57 -!- hackbard is now known as hack^afk 20:58 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C145.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:58 < bluefire> Hi 20:59 < holyolli> hi bluefire 21:14 < rolla> hey I finally captured my error 21:14 < rolla> (core dumped) curl -w '\rFinished downloading %{size_download} bytes in %{time_total} seconds (%{speed_download} bytes/sec). \n' -f --progress-bar $resume $curl_options "$url" -o "$gzfile.incomplete" 21:14 < rolla> ERROR: CURL Returned Error 139. Please read the curl manpage. 21:14 < rolla> I keep getting this any idea what it is ? 21:15 < rolla> ./scripts/Download: line 141: 17148 Segmentation fault 21:19 < fake> rolla: Changellenge S? 21:19 < fake> Challenge 21:20 < rolla> yes 21:20 < fake> the only SGI you can actually install Linux on without having to feel sorry too much is the Indy with the 8 bit graphics 21:20 < fake> everything else is still a playground 21:20 < rolla> hmm this is same hardware just no graphics card 21:21 < fake> what processor? 21:21 < rolla> not sure 21:22 < fake> wait a sec. 21:22 < rolla> it is at home 21:22 < holyolli> esden? 21:23 < rolla> 200MHz R4400SC processor w/1MB Secondary Cache 21:24 < fake> hm... sweet. 21:24 < rolla> yeah it has a 2G disk in it and a serial terminal to control it 21:25 < fake> the serial terminal is shipped with it? 21:25 < rolla> no it is just what I had laying around to hook up to it 21:25 < rolla> it is running some old version of IRIX right now 21:26 < rolla> I also had a Indy but I gave it away sometime ago 21:27 < fake> the WD33C95-based SCSI adaptor (there are 2 in there?) is not supported 21:27 < fake> but the rest should be. 21:28 < esden> re hi all 21:28 < fake> would make a nice server 21:28 < esden> holyolli: ja!! 21:28 < rolla> ja 21:28 < esden> ?? 21:28 < rolla> so no external scsi devices would work ? 21:28 < fake> rolla> would mind sending it to me so i can compile rocklinux 100% faster? 21:29 < holyolli> esden: hast du noch das Create-CD-script mit dem alpha-patch? 21:29 < huebi> Moep! Hi! 21:29 < holyolli> huhu huebi :)) 21:29 < esden> holyolli: nope ... ich habe von dir keine sourcen bekommen ... oder doch ? 21:29 < fake> hi huebi ! 21:29 < esden> wenn dann ist es auf der cd von dir ... 21:29 < holyolli> hm. schau mal nach. vieleicht auch auf der cd. (ansonsten muss ich die nochmal basteln =) 21:29 < fake> esden: danke fuer die torte! 21:30 < holyolli> <-- da waren die finger mal wieder schneller als das gehirn.. ;-) 21:30 < rolla> you have a serial terminal for it ? 21:30 < esden> fake: bitte ich habe mir muehe gegeben ... wenn ich dir schon nicht essen als solches schicken kann :-( 21:30 < fake> rolla: not exactly. i have minicom ;) 21:31 < rolla> okay 21:31 < esden> muhh huebi 21:31 < rolla> shipping would suck from US to europe ;) 21:31 (Users #rocklinux) 21:31 [ aszlig ] [ esden] [ fronti ] [ netcrow] [ simon ] [ th ] 21:31 [ blindcoder] [ fake ] [ hack^afk] [ praenti] [ SMP ] [ the][owl] 21:31 [ bluefire ] [ Freak] [ holyolli] [ rolla ] [ snyke ] 21:31 [ chrisime ] [ freed] [ huebi ] [ rxr ] [ term_aweh] 21:31 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 22 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 21:32 < fake> *arghl* i knew it. 21:32 < rolla> what 21:32 < esden> [21:31] -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 22 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 21:32 < esden> krass 21:32 < esden> it becomes more and more ... 21:32 < esden> cool stuff 21:33 < fake> rolla: that i will have to keep using this ... pretty slow indigo2 21:33 < rolla> fake you in DE ja ? 21:33 < fake> ? hatte ich nicht mal +v ? 21:33 < fake> rolla: j0. 21:33 < fake> sischer 21:33 < fake> ;) 21:33 < rolla> you want it I can still ship it to you 21:33 < rolla> I love work shipping department :) 21:34 < fake> o_O where do you work? 21:34 < rolla> EDS 21:34 < fake> ? 21:34 < rolla> www.eds.com 21:34 < fake> three-letter-organisation ... uh-oh 21:34 < rolla> big stupied american company 21:34 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ 21:34 < huebi> fake: EDS = GM Company. 21:35 < rolla> ja 21:35 < rolla> no wait 21:35 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+v fake] by esden 21:35 <+fake> what do I have to read there.... on the first page... 21:35 < rolla> GM = General motors ? 21:35 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden 21:35 <+fake> Gerhard Schroeder.... 21:35 < netcrow> +v = +vollidiot ;-) 21:35 < esden> rofl 21:36 <+fake> ? 21:36 <+fake> so war das nicht gememint, war nur curious. 21:36 < huebi> Also here in Ruesselsheim. EDS offered my a Cray in 1998 for nothing. Cooling tube diametre 180mm! I had to get it as a whole if I wanted it . ;-) 21:37 < huebi> But I didn't 21:37 < huebi> hehe 21:37 < huebi> rolla: Yes GM = General Motors 21:37 < rolla> oh they no longer own EDS 21:37 < rolla> EDS is it's own company they just do a lot work for them 21:37 < term_aweh> n8 21:37 -!- term_aweh [~pm@p50819ACC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zz") 21:38 < huebi> rolla: I did not take much attention on EDS in the last time... 21:38 <+fake> huebi: why didn't you get ir? 21:39 < huebi> fake: Tons of ugly junk. The Cray was only the case. The good living parts went back to Cray... 21:40 < esden> fake: what are you getting from rolla ??? o_O 21:43 <+fake> esden: if the powersupply permits it i may get a Challenge S from SGI *jumps around* 21:43 < huebi> fake: Your powersupply at home? 21:45 <+fake> huebi: the one built into the Challenge S 21:45 <+fake> i'll have a look at my indigo2's one 21:45 < huebi> fake: *Bahnhof* ? 21:45 < holyolli> *fg* 21:46 <+fake> huebi: 120... 230. ring a bell? 21:46 < huebi> 400? *gg* 21:48 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048578.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:48 < huebi> Where do I find how to change the mouse pointer in XFree86. Some times the small black one gets loast here at 4800x1200. Ant Ideas? 21:48 < holyolli> 4800x1200?!??! 21:48 < huebi> holyolli: ACK 21:48 < holyolli> huebi: xinerama? 21:49 <+fake> huebi: use xeyes 21:49 < huebi> 3x 1600x1200 ;-))) 21:49 < holyolli> huebi: args! 21:49 < chrisime> esden: hoi 21:49 <+fake> xeyes on the bottom of the center screen 21:50 < huebi> fake: They are looking at me! 21:50 < holyolli> huebi: btw. are there any points to have a look on when installing lvm? 21:50 <+fake> huebi: in the device section of any video card say Option "SWCursor" "true" 21:51 <+fake> (guess) 21:51 * fake cooking.... 21:51 < huebi> holyolli: take the newest one 1.0.4! And no software RAID below LVM! 21:51 < holyolli> huebi: *hm* 21:52 < holyolli> huebi: how would you make it with 3 hdds (each 36gb)? raid or lvm? 21:52 < huebi> holyolli: And have the Phone # of Heinz handy *g* 21:52 < holyolli> mh? 21:52 < holyolli> <-- doesn't find the joke! ;-) 21:53 < huebi> holyolli: Heinz Mauelshagen. The developer of LVM. 21:54 < holyolli> ah *g* 21:54 < huebi> vgcfgbackup ... 21:55 < huebi> If you want speed: RAID-0. But first look with scsiinfo at the disks. Not too much manufacturer defects and absolutly no grown defects! 21:56 < huebi> If you want flexibility in partitioning: LVM 21:56 < huebi> LVM with striping is also a very good idea. 21:57 < holyolli> is a "lvm stripe" similar to raid-striping? 21:57 < huebi> SMP has made many things with LVM on world. 21:57 < huebi> holyolli: LVM stipe is simirar to raid-striping 22:02 -!- freed [~neerod@pD9001E3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:03 < holyolli> greetings from tina to all 22:03 < huebi> holyolli: und zurueck ;-))) 22:18 -!- d3mian [~death@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 22:18 < holyolli> hi d3mian 22:19 < d3mian> hi all! 22:19 < huebi> hi d3mian \ 22:20 < lizard> re d3mian 22:36 -!- d3m|an [~death@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 22:36 -!- d3mian [~death@208.165.55.137] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:38 < lizard> re d3m|an, once again ;-) 22:38 < d3m|an> hehe, sure ;) thanx 22:42 < esden> n8 22:43 -!- Netsplit card.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: rolla, praenti, fronti, netcrow, huebi, Freak, chrisime, simon, lizard, blindcoder, (+8 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:44 -!- Netsplit over, joins: netcrow, lizard, bluefire, holyolli, chrisime, +fake, praenti, fronti, SMP, rxr (+6 more) 22:44 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rolla 22:47 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E11A30.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:47 < d3m|an> hi tsa 22:47 < tsa> moin. 22:47 < tsa> hi d3m|an 22:47 < huebi> hi tsa 22:48 < tsa> hi huebi 22:48 < d3m|an> umm 22:49 < d3m|an> im tryng to burn with my new cdwriter on rock, but i have probs when recognizing the location of the cdrw 22:49 < tsa> using cdrecord? 22:49 < d3m|an> i could load the ide-scsi on the drive, but i cant use cdrecord -scanbus, /dev/pg* no such file.. 22:49 < d3m|an> yes 22:50 < holyolli> huhu tsa 22:50 < tsa> hi holyolli 22:50 < tsa> ah, i see. 22:50 < lizard> d3m|an !! i had this, too 22:50 < d3m|an> is devfs, what do i have to do? 22:50 < lizard> right, mom 22:50 -!- d3m|an is now known as d3mian 22:50 < tsa> d3m|an: you'll need an MKOLDCOMPAT entry in your devfsd.conf 22:50 < tsa> i have a scsi burner, so you will have to change this 22:50 < d3mian> umm, ic, what's the right line? 22:50 < tsa> REGISTER ^scsi/host0/bus0/target4/lun0/generic MKOLDCOMPAT 22:50 < tsa> UNREGISTER ^scsi/host0/bus0/target4/lun0/generic RMOLDCOMPAT 22:51 < d3mian> oh ic :) 22:51 < lizard> urgs, i only did a "ln -sf ..." 22:51 < d3mian> thanx a lot tsa :) 22:51 < tsa> d3mian: no problem 22:52 < tsa> lizard: i guess that will work, too....but i like to solve the problem "the devfs way" .. 22:52 < tsa> it's the cleaner solution, IMHO.. 22:52 < lizard> heh yeah. i'm too stupid to RTFM 22:53 < d3mian> nobody is stupid to read a manual, you just need know to read and interest :) 22:54 < lizard> i was rather interested in burning on my brothers cd-writer as fast as possible 22:54 <+fake> ugh 22:55 <+fake> moderated channels suck 22:55 <+fake> ;-) 22:55 < tsa> hehe 22:55 < tsa> hi fake 22:55 < holyolli> hm 22:55 < holyolli> root@snoopy:~# su - holyolli 22:55 < holyolli> Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied 22:55 < holyolli> 22:55 < huebi> cdrecord -v dev=/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/generic fs=31M speed=32 -eject rock-intel-i686-base+opt-1.5.16.iso <- the devfs way ;-) 22:55 < tsa> fake: this mostly depends on what you have to say.. 22:55 < holyolli> any ideas? 22:56 < tsa> holyolli: ltrace. 22:56 < huebi> holyolli: look in /etc/init.d for scripts not mod +x 22:56 < tsa> huebi: hm? 22:56 < holyolli> huebi: ah ic 22:56 < d3mian> umm, cool huebi, i though "dev= " entry is just for binary number format: "dev=0,1,1", etc thanx too 22:56 < holyolli> huebi: this should be fixed in the installation scripts 22:57 < holyolli> (it is a fresh inst of 1.5.16-rc) 22:57 * huebi fixing the kernel build in 1.5.16 22:57 < tsa> huebi: aehm...hm....maybe the devfs way....but at least the way that needs the most typing.. 22:57 < tsa> i'm lazy... 0,4,0 is much shorter 22:57 < huebi> tsa: bash completion ;-> 22:57 < tsa> huebi: count for yourself.. 22:57 < huebi> export HISTSIZE=1000000 22:57 < huebi> export HISTFILESIZE=1000000 22:58 < huebi> <- mor lazy ;-) 22:58 < huebi> +e 22:58 < tsa> hehe 22:58 < tsa> .oO( make .bash_history a named pipe and log everything in a mysql db ) 22:58 < tsa> ;-) 22:58 < huebi> lol 22:59 <+fake> mirrored on our Oracle-Based Installation CD. 23:01 < huebi> *gg* 23:02 < tsa> hehe...or we could make a package providing /etc/skel/.bash_history, already filles with useful commands.. 23:02 < tsa> s,filles,filled, 23:03 <+fake> like what? your porn sites? nooonoooooo 23:03 < tsa> hahaha. 23:04 < tsa> sure. surfing pr0n sites with lynx might be fun. 23:04 < huebi> a good collection of unreadable sed command lines with 100 or more characters... 23:04 < huebi> s/100/1000/ 23:05 < tsa> #! /bin/sh 23:05 < tsa> ls | perl -e 'while(<STDIN>){$name=$_; chomp $name; $newname=$name; $newname=~s/^(\d+)/\[$1\]/;print "mv \"$name\" \"$newname\"\n"}' | sh 23:05 < huebi> inline assembler foe bash commands.... 23:06 < tsa> just one of my endless mp3 renaming scripts.. 23:06 < tsa> for i in *.mp3; do export TITLE=`echo $i|sed -e 's/\[..\]...//g;'| sed -e 's/\.mp3//g;'`; mp3info -t "$TITLE" "$i"; done 23:07 < huebi> and Mathilda must not be missing... 23:07 < tsa> hehe 23:07 < holyolli> hm. 23:08 < holyolli> does 1.5.16 have any problems with permissions on subdirs? 23:08 < holyolli> (huebi) 23:08 < huebi> holyolli: I don't have a bootable image. so I could not test that. but it looks good. 23:09 < holyolli> huebi: does you have some minutes time for me? 23:09 < tsa> rock-alpha-bootable-1.5.16.iso 23:09 < huebi> I fixed many things since 1.5.15 23:09 < tsa> hm.. 23:09 < huebi> holyolli: jo 23:10 < holyolli> huebi: -> MSG 23:14 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:25 < tsa> hi sockmonk 23:29 < sockmonk> hi tsa 23:30 < sockmonk> did everyone enjoy Linuxtag? 23:30 < tsa> yes, sure. 23:30 < huebi> sockmonk: hi 23:30 < huebi> sockmonk: jo! 23:30 < sockmonk> hi huebi 23:30 < holyolli> sockmonk: jo 23:30 < sockmonk> jo? 23:31 < holyolli> "yeah" 23:31 < sockmonk> dutch for ja? 23:31 < holyolli> dutch? *g* no...just german slang ;) 23:31 < huebi> sockmonk: no german. 23:32 < huebi> sockmonk: no german. Slang in the north. Near the Netherlands *g* 23:32 < sockmonk> I studied hochdeutsch in school a long time ago... 23:32 < huebi> sockmonk: kool! 23:32 < sockmonk> I like trying to catch on to "real" German here 23:34 <+fake> Mein Herr, seid mir gegruesst! 23:34 <+fake> Es erfuellt mein Herz stets mit tiefster Freude, deutschlernende anzutreffen! 23:34 < sockmonk> fake: genau! 23:35 <+fake> sockmonk, ihr verwundert mich, seid ihr gar aus einem anderen Lande? 23:35 < holyolli> fake: opfer! ;-) 23:36 < sockmonk> fake: ich wohne im USA 23:36 < huebi> sockmonk: fakes stile of german was very modern at least 150 years ago 23:37 < sockmonk> huebi: around Goethe's time or so? 23:37 < huebi> very polite 23:37 < huebi> sockmonk: exact 23:37 <+fake> Verzeiht mein Herr, wenn ich so arg neugierig werde, doch aus welche Kolonie seid ihr alsdann? 23:37 <+fake> s/welche/welcher/ 23:38 < sockmonk> Kentucky 23:38 < sockmonk> although Kentucky was never a colony 23:38 <+fake> Ich habe nie von einer Kolonie mit Namen Kentucky gehoert... ist sie britisch? 23:38 < sockmonk> argh. 23:38 <+fake> ;-) 23:40 * sockmonk goes back to lurking 23:40 < d3mian> when lxtag finish? 23:41 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has joined #rocklinux 23:41 -!- Freak [~freak@pD9530938.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:41 < tomik> hi all 23:41 < tsa> d3mian: yesterday.. 23:42 < d3mian> ohh, hehe 23:51 < tsa> uh. 23:52 < tsa> just found out where alan cox went after linuxtag. 23:52 <+fake> where? 23:52 < tsa> he's already in japan. 23:52 < tsa> must be a hell of a trip. 23:52 <+fake> socker? not really?? 23:52 < tsa> no, not soccer. 23:52 < tsa> linux stuff, as always. 23:53 < tsa> guess i don't want to change with him. 23:53 <+fake> Japan? 23:53 <+fake> i'd love to get to japan 23:54 < tsa> to get yourself some japanese chicks? ;-) 23:54 < tomik> :) 23:55 <+fake> tsa: you mix something up. i am not you. i don't have pr0n on my galeon start page ;) 23:56 < tsa> hahaha 23:56 < tsa> me neither 23:57 < tomik> or "i don't use galeon" ;P 23:58 <+fake> shall i go and htdig thorugh the irc-log? --- Log closed Tue Jun 11 00:00:39 2002