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--- Log opened Mon Jun 17 00:00:26 2002 --- Day changed Mon Jun 17 2002 00:05 < huebi> wo wird denn arch_machine gesetzt? 00:05 < rxr> parse_config (oder so) ? 00:06 < huebi> nee. Nirgendwo in scripts 00:07 < huebi> ahh. in arch-conf/*/archtest*out. 00:11 < hackbard> clifford: updated to util-linux version 2.11r (old one 2.11m). it now umounts correctly. but 2.11 knows -l option ... seems it just dont work properly. 00:20 -!- the][owl [~mail-spam@213.7.84.178] has quit ("Back to RL. :/") 00:36 < raffi_> Good night. 00:37 < huebi> n8 raffi_ 00:37 < raffi_> night huebi 00:37 -!- raffi_ [~raffi@chello212186144154.15.vie.surfer.at] has quit ("[BX] Does your mommy know you use BitchX?") 00:44 < rxr> cu all 00:44 < rxr> n8 00:45 < bluefire> good nicht rxr 00:45 < huebi> nacht rxr 00:46 * clifford is away: away 01:28 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:45 < huebi> nacht ;-) 01:49 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048562.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 02:07 < hackbard> bin auch pennen, bis morgen! 02:16 < bluefire> good night 02:16 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p508171CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:26 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.0.183] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02:37 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.3.89] has joined #rocklinux 06:47 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-170-180.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 07:04 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-168-135.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:09 < huebi> moin 08:13 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@xs4.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 08:14 < huebi> hi ringo78 08:35 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@xs4.xs4all.nl] has quit ("Lost terminal") 08:46 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048F1D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:02 < huebi> cu later ;-) 09:38 < esden> haaalo ... 09:39 < esden> wieso kann ich ueber web die url https://download.rocklinux.de/1.6/ nicht aufmachen ... der server meint "You don't have permission to access /1.6/ on this server." 09:39 < esden> mensch 09:50 < esden> soo .. bin wieder weg 09:54 -!- rxr_ is now known as rxr 10:00 < huebi> re 10:00 < rxr> moin huebi 10:00 < huebi> esden: weil da noch nichts drin ist 10:01 < huebi> moin rene ;-) 10:01 < huebi> rxr: Der kernel compiled jetzt *freu* 10:02 < huebi> und so langsam verstehe ich die Zusammenhaenge bei der kernelkonfiguration. 10:02 < rxr> huebi: das ist gut ;-)! 10:03 < huebi> Heute werde ich dann sehr wahrscheinlich 1.5.16 fertig bekommen 10:05 < rxr> Warum sind solche announcements auf /. ??? : MrOutlander writes "Gentoo Linux releases version 1.2 of their cutting edge distribution with many updates including KDE 3.0.1 (20020604) and GNOME 2 (beta, 20020607) support. I love emerge :)" 10:07 < huebi> /. kommt mir ein bischen wie das Heise-Forum vor. Man muss nur nicht so viel klicken *g* 10:08 < rxr> Ohhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Wie kann man sooooo doof sein. Post zu der Gnome2 ROCK news: Did Gentoo Linux ever get an article like this? It's been offering Gnome 2 since beta 5 ... I'm running Gnome 2 under Gentoo right now, and it was as painless as painless can be. 10:10 < rxr> I'll finish dRock-1.6.0 today - and when the binary ISO is finished and synced to the UNI server, I'll do a freshmeat announcement ... 10:11 < huebi> rxr: Ich glaube, an so viel Hohlheit muessen wir uns leider so langsam gewoehnen. Das kommt dann manchmal vor, wenn Halbwissende Ahnung haben wollen. 10:16 < rxr> huebi: ich glaube ich replye mit: "Yes they <a href="https://news.gnome.org/gnome-news/1019744507/">did</a>. Gentoo is basically what ROCK Linux introduced in 1998 - the difference is a less advanced build environment and more PR. Currently we start to change the PR thing ..." 10:19 -!- tsa [~tsa@sec-01.bi.devcon.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:19 < tsa> moin. 10:19 < rxr> hi tsa 10:20 < huebi> rxr: Yes. Good Idea. I like that. 10:20 < tsa> hi rxr 10:20 < tsa> *gaehn* 10:20 < huebi> hi tsa 10:20 < tsa> hi huebi 10:20 < tsa> https://fun.drno.de/pics/comicstars/Garfield_Coffee.gif <-- good idea 10:23 < rxr> tsa: yesterday I updatesd _all_ x11 and rene packages ;-) 10:27 < tsa> rxr: so everything is broken now? ;) 10:27 < rxr> no! 10:27 < tsa> we'll see... 10:28 < rxr> so far less errors then in the last build - arround 60 ... 10:28 < tsa> i'll wait for clifford to fix the dietlibc problem in stage 0 and then start a new build.. 10:28 < rxr> most of the updaes where Gnome2 releated. 10:28 < tsa> as expected.. ;) 10:29 < rxr> After this update I'll start to fix the other problems like libpng, libtiff, ghostscript, cdrdao, ... 10:29 < rxr> all gcc-3.1 probs .. 10:34 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.3.89] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:37 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.3.70] has joined #rocklinux 10:37 < huebi> * cliffords 6h reconnect ;-) 10:39 < tsa> hehe... 10:40 < tsa> GRRR... 10:40 < tsa> rpm-based systems suck. 10:40 < tsa> cdrdao: Symbol `__vt_3ios' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking 10:40 < tsa> cdrdao: Symbol `__vt_8ofstream.3ios' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking 10:40 < tsa> cdrdao: Symbol `__vt_7ostream.3ios' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking 10:41 < tsa> the message is wrong, anyway.... should be "consider installing different distro" .. 10:41 < huebi> tsa: ACK *gg* 10:41 < tsa> (RH system with updated libstdc++ rpm) 10:44 < huebi> tsa: Now you have exact the reason why I changed from RH/Mandrake to ROCK Linux ;-) 10:45 < tsa> ack. splitting up single packages in different rpm's just doesn't work. 10:48 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has joined #rocklinux 10:54 < tsa> hi tomik 10:56 < tomik> hi tsa 10:56 < tomik> hi all 10:58 < huebi> hi tomik 11:15 < fake> mornin 11:15 < huebi> hi fake ;-) 11:16 < tsa> hi fake 11:16 < fake> <- hat seine Indy *jump* 11:19 < praenti> hi 11:21 < praenti> huebi: do we have already webcvs? 11:21 < huebi> praenti: jo 11:22 < praenti> huebi: can you give me the url please? 11:22 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:22 < holyolli> moin 11:22 < fake> morgen! 11:22 < huebi> hi holyolli 11:22 < holyolli> hi fake 11:22 < holyolli> hi huebi :) 11:22 < tsa> huhu holyolli 11:22 < praenti> huebi: or is it cvs.rocklinux.de 11:23 < praenti> hi holyolli 11:24 < huebi> https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/ 11:27 < rxr> ok /me at Uni now - cu 11:27 < tsa> have fun.. 11:27 < tsa> cu rxr 11:28 < fake> cu rxr 11:28 < huebi> cu rxr 11:30 * praenti at lunch 11:32 < fake> guten hunger 11:35 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD9048F1D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 11:36 -!- simon- [~simon@p5087571B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:40 < tsa> irgendwem langweilig? 11:40 < tsa> https://mail2.rbac.ac.th/php/phpMyAdmin-2.2.2-rc1/main.php?lang=en&server=1 11:42 < tsa> https://ontwerpen1.khlim.be/~groepc/phpmyadmin/main.php?lang=en&server=1 11:42 < huebi> tsa: *lol* 11:44 < huebi> tsa: Wie hast du die gefunden? 11:46 < tsa> https://www.videopimp.com/vpADMIN/phpadmin/main.php?server=1 11:46 < tsa> huebi: google regelt. 11:46 < tsa> "welcome to phpmyadmin" 11:46 < huebi> hehe 11:46 < huebi> tsa: Externe Backups werden datenbankbasiert richtig einfach und billig. 11:47 < tsa> jupp.. 11:49 < huebi> Die Defaulteinstellungen sind bei MySQL ja schon schoen offen. Das aber nirgend wo genau steht, wie das Ding dichtgemacht wird, macht MySQL ganz schoen gefaehrlich. 11:50 < fake> tj0r. 11:50 -!- simon [~simon@pD951E4E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:51 -!- simon- is now known as simon 12:05 < tsa> GTK+ 2.0.5 released 12:06 < tsa> freshmeat is br0ken. 12:07 < tsa> grrr. 12:07 < holyolli> hehe 12:07 < hackbard> rxr: btw, default build broke in stage 3 jack! 12:07 < tsa> hehehe 12:07 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has quit ("you know, geeks are at their best late at night...") 12:09 < hackbard> later .. 12:12 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p508176F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:13 < bluefire> Moin 12:13 < tsa> hi bluefire 12:13 < holyolli> hi bluefire 12:19 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E394C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:46 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:55 < tsa> cu 12:55 -!- tsa [~tsa@sec-01.bi.devcon.net] has quit ("wech.") 12:57 < esden> hi all 12:57 < huebi> hi esden ;-) 12:57 < blindcod1r> hi esden 12:57 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 12:57 < esden> huebi HI ! 12:57 < esden> hi blindcoder 12:58 < esden> huebi: what is the newest 1.5.x iso ? 12:58 < esden> or is there already 1.6 rc stuff there ? 12:58 < huebi> https://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.15/rock-intel-i586-base+opt-1.5.15_2002-05-27_02h30.iso 12:59 < esden> is that the one from lxtag ? 12:59 < huebi> jo 12:59 < esden> hmm ... 12:59 < esden> huebi: do you consider a new iso in the next two weeks ? 13:00 < huebi> I allmost fixed the kernel package linux today. The kernel is now configured right. 13:00 < esden> I need something to give the people from lugin ... 13:00 < huebi> esden: I consider a new iso in the next three days. 13:00 < esden> huebi: very good 13:00 < esden> I have to feed them with rock 13:00 < esden> and assimilate ;-) 13:01 < huebi> esden: jo, kool ;-) 13:01 * -> esden drinking jolt 13:01 < huebi> MATHILDA WILL LIKE THEM, TOO 13:01 < esden> huebi: arrrgh >_< 13:01 < esden> huebi: mathilda will become our pet if I see it right ? 13:02 < huebi> esden: Is there some Jolt now on your screen? 13:02 < huebi> pet or better mascot I think 13:03 < esden> huebi: i was near to spit it on my display ... but I could prevent it ... 13:03 < huebi> esden: What do you think about that idea 13:03 < huebi> ? 13:03 < esden> huebi: yes a mascot 13:03 < huebi> Others have boring Pinguins. Why should we not have a cow? 13:03 < huebi> Something very different 13:04 < esden> huebi: cult of the dead cow has cow as a mascot ... and distributed net too ... IIRC 13:04 < esden> huebi: but penguin riding a com sounds funny 13:04 < esden> ;-) 13:04 < huebi> But swimming with Pinuguins in ZA is really funny. They are really fast under water. 13:04 < fake> *boerp* 13:04 < esden> huhu fake 13:05 < esden> ZA ?? 13:05 < huebi> fake: Huhu 13:05 < blindcoder> moin fake 13:05 < esden> @ huebi 13:05 < huebi> South Africa 13:05 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!") 13:05 < esden> ahh .. hehe 13:05 < fake> me had meat. me is not hungry. me want sleep. 13:06 < esden> fake: keyboards are good for sleeping on ... 13:06 < esden> fake: get your sleep my friend ... ;-) 13:06 < blindcoder> me want small tactical nuclear warhead. 13:06 < fake> huebi: noone has an ascii-art mascot ; 13:06 < fake> ) 13:07 < huebi> At the south coast of ZA there are living Pinguins. Very "merkwuerdig" to see them staying on the beach at 35 Degree Centigrade 13:07 < huebi> erm Celsius ;-) 13:07 < blindcoder> strange? 13:07 < huebi> blindcoder: jou 13:08 < huebi> that's the word I searched for 13:10 < esden> argh ... *stomp* : https://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/17/0435227 13:11 < huebi> #reallife: 13:08 < ungrzna> https://rocklinux.de/projects/drock/screens/desk_natalie.jpg 13:11 < huebi> 13:08 < ungrzna> (egal wo du dich versteckst, ich finde dich;)) 13:11 < blindcoder> esden: with linking this you are now officially assigned the new duty to post every ROCK-Release to Slashdot :D 13:12 < huebi> blindcoder: FULLY ACK 13:12 < esden> I do not know where and how to post it ... >_< 13:12 < fake> that's what i thought upon reading this, too 13:12 < blindcoder> then go, and learn! 13:12 < esden> fake: so you can do it 13:12 < fake> *@slashdot.org 13:12 < esden> blindcoder: why me ???? 13:13 < fake> esden: me baka. me not post slashdot. me not l33t. 13:13 < esden> fake: *smack* 13:14 < blindcoder> esden: what do you say to me if i complain about some software not being what I like? 13:15 < esden> blindcoder: *glummel_grummel* 13:15 < blindcoder> fake: your gf is l33t. let her post :D 13:15 < fake> blindcoder: you wouldn't want THAT .... :) 13:15 < esden> https://slashdot.org/submit.pl 13:16 < esden> fake: sure we want ... she could also draw the announcements ;-) 13:16 < blindcoder> good boy, esden! 13:16 < fake> yeah. and send in a photoshop drawing. 13:17 < esden> fake: sure ;-) she could also draw it in gimp ;-) 13:18 < esden> ok boys .. do we have to submit something to sf ? 13:22 < blindcoder> ... 13:22 < fake> esden: not yet... or did rene already do a release 13:22 < fake> ? 13:22 < fake> DEV-release 13:23 < fake> that would be something to post 13:23 < esden> fake: don't know ... I have to look If he did 13:24 < huebi> In the next three days there will be a official release of ROCK Linux 1.5.16 13:25 < blindcoder> err... 13:25 < blindcoder> is that right: https://www1.rocklinux.org/releases/ ??? 13:26 < huebi> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/huebi/rock16/ <- I'll update this one ;-) and announce it on the list 13:27 < esden> huebi: when do you consider to release 1.6 ? 13:28 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has joined #rocklinux 13:28 < huebi> esden: I consider to release 1.6 when the following is given: 13:29 < fake> https://webalizer.net/msfree.gif 13:29 < tomik> xe 13:29 < huebi> The platforms sparc, sparc64, alpha, ppc and ia32 are fully supported. 13:29 < huebi> hi tomik ;-) 13:29 < esden> hi tomik 13:30 < huebi> Bootable CD-Images are made 13:30 < tomik> hi esden, huebi, fake & co :) 13:30 < huebi> KDE 3.0.1 is integrated 13:30 < huebi> I want to have gnome and KDE in /opt 13:30 < tomik> at download.rocklinux.de ? 13:31 < esden> hmm ... that is still a lot of work ... and gentoo released already >_< 13:31 < esden> I hate it !!! 13:32 < tomik> whats wrong with gentoo? 13:32 < esden> tomik: https://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/17/0435227 13:32 < huebi> esden: 1.6 _must_ be stable. I do not want to have e release only for the "experienced developer". 13:32 < esden> huebi: I know that it MUST be stable ... but I can not wait ... >_< 13:33 < tomik> esden: chi :) 13:33 < huebi> What I really would like is OpenOffice in ROCK 1.6 13:33 < huebi> esden: There will be also further stable prereleases. 13:33 < esden> huebi: ohh mann ... 13:33 < tomik> huebi: 1.5.15 is latest? 13:34 < esden> tomik: yes 13:34 < huebi> tomik: jo. 13:34 < tomik> ok 13:34 < huebi> brb. 13:45 < huebi> re 13:45 < tomik> wb 13:47 < esden> https://www.parksabers.com/ <-- cool I want one! 13:48 < huebi> I'm still on the task of debugging linux and linux-src and, as I know since yesterday, I have to debug the install-disks, too. 13:52 < huebi> If that all works 1.5.16 will be released. 14:01 < bluefire> esden: I don't believe them when they say the sabers are built for action. I'm sure I can break them in a decent hand to hand combat. 14:03 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("restarting X") 14:04 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 14:04 < armijn> re 14:04 < esden> bluefire: sure ... I know ... I would not buy such a thing for fighting ... but to have it ;-) 14:04 < esden> hi armijn 14:04 < armijn> hi 14:04 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:05 < armijn> urgh, where's that 'view cvs' on www.cvs.rocklinux.de again? 14:05 < armijn> exact URL? 14:10 < huebi> armijn: mom 14:10 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("nochmal..") 14:10 < huebi> https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/ 14:12 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:12 < armijn> huebi: does 1.5.16 build correctly on x86? 14:14 < huebi> armijn: Not yet. E.g. Your boot kernel will replaced. But now it boots ;-) 14:14 < huebi> it=the build machine. 14:14 < armijn> I don't get it why rippi can't get his stuff built! 14:15 < armijn> I mean... 14:15 < huebi> armijn: linux-src still fails. so the generate asm does not work and fix the system. 14:15 < armijn> hmm 14:15 < huebi> will be fixed tonight if I'm very lucky. 14:16 < armijn> ok 14:16 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.3.70] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:16 < armijn> that's weird 14:16 < armijn> why does it fail? and why doesn't he report that 1-linux-src fails??! 14:18 < huebi> armijn: It does not fail. It just does not work. 14:18 < armijn> heh 14:18 < armijn> so it fails ;) 14:18 < huebi> armijn: It make wrong things. ;-) 14:19 < huebi> without failing. 14:19 < armijn> ok, weird 14:19 < armijn> what goes wrong? 14:19 < esden> does anyone know where in the kernel sources is the header containing the framebuffer logo ? 14:21 < huebi> armijn: I'll find that out tonight. 14:21 < huebi> armijn: 1 thing I know is that /usr/src/linux* will be erased and build up new in stage 1 14:22 < armijn> ehr 14:23 < armijn> wicked 14:25 < huebi> armijn: Not that bad. But it needs to be fixed. 14:26 < huebi> I now understand the scripts for the kernel packages. 14:26 < blindcoder> esden: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/linux_logo.h 14:27 < huebi> So it is not too much work to get it running 14:27 < huebi> As I can see it now. 14:27 < fake> blindcoder: there is a GIMP Plugin to write that .h file :) 14:27 < armijn> heheheh 14:27 < blindcoder> yeah. save as .c-source ;) 14:28 < armijn> heh 14:28 < huebi> I also put more comments in the scripts. I'm not the best in scripting and I don't want other people to find that all out again. 14:29 < armijn> heh, use my guide :) 14:29 < esden> blindcoder: danke 14:30 < armijn> yeah. need to switch buildings 14:30 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 14:31 < blindcoder> esden: no. you won't do what I'm afraid you will do, will you? 14:31 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I take this land for my bunghole!") 14:32 < esden> blindcoder: not yet .. but in some minutes perhups ;-) 14:32 < esden> blindcoder: someone asked for it on the lugin mailinglist 14:32 < blindcoder> esden: you know that I would have to kill you if you do so? 14:32 < esden> blindcoder: why ... rocklinux logo in the fb ... 14:32 < praenti> hi 14:33 < esden> that is cool 14:33 < esden> hi brand 14:33 < blindcoder> esden: okay, send me the new linux_logo.h if you have it :D 14:33 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:33 < esden> blindcoder: rofl 14:33 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:34 < esden> I have to post a patch to clifford with new issues ... so that they get included 14:34 < snyke> hi 14:34 < esden> hi snyke 14:34 < huebi> armijn: hi praenti 14:34 < huebi> hi praenti 14:34 < huebi> hi snyke 14:35 < praenti> huebi: how can armijn say that? he already has left the channel ???? 14:35 < praenti> *amkopfkratz* 14:36 -!- clifford [~clifford@M107P006.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 14:36 < huebi> armijn: praenti, that was me. 14:36 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD958BEF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:36 < huebi> *g* 14:36 < praenti> armijn at huebi's workplace/home? 14:37 < huebi> no 14:37 < huebi> praenti: I just wantet to say something to armijn 14:37 < praenti> huebi: ok# 14:39 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I take this land for my bunghole!") 14:41 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:42 < th> huebi: is das kernel prob;lem schon geloest? 14:42 < praenti> th: was für ein kernel problem? 14:43 < huebi> th: teilweise. Der Kernel kann jetzt schon booten. Die Install-disks funktionieren aber noch nicht. 14:44 < huebi> th: Der alte kernel vom buildsystem wird geloescht und ein neuer installiert ;( 14:44 < huebi> Braucht noch ein bischen erm Feinschliff. 14:44 < huebi> Sieht aber schon ganz gut aus. 14:46 < praenti> huebi: wieso wird der alte kernel gelöscht? 14:47 < huebi> praenti: Weil ich Mist gebaut habe. Ich weiss jetzt aber, wo ich das wieder hinbiegen muss. 14:47 < praenti> huebi: stage 1 baut den kernel. im stage 5 wird dann rebuilded. dann passt das doch, oder 14:48 < praenti> achso, das soll nicht so sein 14:48 < praenti> #;-) 14:48 < huebi> Stage 3 auch noch mal; 14:48 < praenti> stimmt# 14:48 < praenti> ich hasse #-Taste 14:48 < huebi> praenti: Warum drueckst du immer <shift>-3 14:48 < huebi> ? 14:48 < huebi> hehe 14:49 < praenti> huebi: is ne deutsche tastatur. eine von den ekligen siemens. da wo mn auf die return drücken will und die # erwischt 14:50 < esden> praenti: nimm doch dvorak ;-) 14:50 < huebi> die kernel quellen muessen in Stage 1 nur unter /usr/src/linux vorhanden sein (aber die richtigen) und dann sollte es reichen, wenn der kernel in der chroot Umgebung gebaut wird. 14:51 < th> huebi: kann ich irgendwo schon die base-pkgs laden? 14:51 < huebi> esden: Ist das richtig ? 14:51 < esden> huebi: hmm ... ja .. ich glaube mommentan ist es so 14:51 < huebi> th: Leider noch nicht. Aber egal wie das heute mit dem kernel ausdgeht, ich werde die morgen auf world ablegen. 14:52 < snyke> he praenti 14:52 < th> ok danke 14:52 < snyke> siemens sind geil 14:52 < snyke> vom druckpunkt 14:52 < praenti> huebi: bin zwar net esden. dürfte aber reichen, weil du ja nur die include für stage 2-5 bracuchst 14:52 < snyke> <-- auch siemens & compaq 14:52 < huebi> <- SGI. Alte UNIX-Tastaturen ;-) 14:52 < praenti> huebi: und der eigentliche build dann im build-system is ok 14:53 < huebi> praenti, esden: danke. 14:53 < snyke> :) 14:53 < praenti> huebi: und wenns net hinhaut dann ein downgrade ;-) 14:54 < huebi> Der build wird in stage 1 aus irgend einem Grund noch in /usr/src gemacht. Fuer sparc64 unbedingt notwendig, damit die includes garantiert richtig sind. 14:54 < huebi> linux in Stage 1 ist nicht noetig IMHO 14:55 < huebi> linux-src jedoch schon. EWegen der includes. 14:56 -!- clifford [~clifford@M107P006.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:57 < huebi> /usr/src/linux* muss dann gesichert werden bevor es durch die neuen Sourcen ersetzt wird. 14:57 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 14:58 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:02 < praenti> igitt. mein rock wird grad suse verseucht :-( 15:04 < huebi> praenti: Wie machst du das? 15:09 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:09 < tsa> re. 15:17 < esden> hi tsa 15:17 < snyke> hi tsa 15:20 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I take this land for my bunghole!") 15:20 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E3948C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:27 < rolla> re 15:28 < huebi> hi tsa 15:28 < huebi> hi rolla 15:28 < huebi> ;-) 15:28 < tsa> hi esden, snyke, huebi 15:29 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh 15:29 < esden> heul ... 15:29 < rolla> hallo 15:29 < esden> ich sehe uebelall gentoo 15:30 < esden> everywhere gentoo *run* 15:30 < esden> I am surrounded !!! 15:30 < esden> https://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/article-rpm.php 15:33 < esden> https://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/source.php 15:35 < esden> hmm ... on the second link you can see what we need to update/add to rock 15:37 < tsa> grrr....gentoo suxx. 15:37 < tsa> we need more PR. 15:37 < huebi> tsa: ACK 15:38 < esden> rxr: are you here ... ??? 15:38 < huebi> and therefore KDE 3.0.1 + Gnome 1.4 and Open Office. 15:38 < tsa> source.php is a good pointer, anyway. 15:38 < esden> huebi: YES !! 15:38 < esden> tsa: sure 15:39 < tsa> if this is the way to go, we'll take. let's do updates. 15:39 < tsa> but no openoffice, please. 15:39 < esden> this site is really up te date ... 15:39 < esden> respect 15:39 < tsa> building it takes too long. 15:39 < esden> who is maintaining it ? 15:39 < huebi> Then we have all graphikal orientated features 15:39 < tsa> although we might consider including the binary openoffice version. 15:39 < esden> huebi: we need lane os target too ... 15:40 < huebi> tsa: But OpenOffice work really fine. I think it's worth to be on the base CD 15:40 < huebi> esden: What is lane? 15:40 < tsa> huebi: source or binary? 15:40 < esden> huebi: i mean lain ... sorry 15:40 -!- clifford [~clifford@M082P020.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:40 < tsa> hi clifford 15:41 < huebi> tsa: as precompiled binary. And of course as package for selfrebuild. 15:41 < tsa> huebi: hm...that would be ok with me. 15:41 < huebi> esden: What is laine? 15:41 < esden> huebi: this is a character from an anime ... interpret this target as a fully graphical and gimmic overloaded rock target ... 15:41 < esden> re clifford 15:41 < tsa> can anyone put "https://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/source.php" in the topic? 15:41 < huebi> *gg* esden 15:41 < huebi> esden: "https://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/source.php" <- your turn ;-)) 15:42 < esden> tsa: would be https://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/rock.php perhups better ? 15:42 < esden> ok ... I put it in the topic 15:42 < esden> the source.php 15:42 < tsa> thanks. 15:42 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ 15:43 < huebi> rock-ia32-1.5.16/info/logs/s-install-disks.err 15:43 < huebi> cp: omitting directory `/rock-linux/subdists/install-disks/root-disk/CVS' 15:43 < huebi> error found ;-)) 15:43 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Don't feel sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux! (compare to others: Don't feel sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux!) 15:43 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Don't feel sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux! (compare to others: https://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/source.php) 15:43 <@esden> now better 15:43 < tsa> perhaps some of us should join gentoo and accidentally delete their cvs repository ;-) 15:44 <@esden> tsa, huebi: is that ok ? 15:44 < tsa> yess! 15:44 < huebi> esden: yes. 15:44 < huebi> But joining gentoo to kill them is stupid. really stupid. 15:45 < tsa> hehe 15:45 <@esden> we will kill them some other way 15:45 < huebi> Gentoo is really good for many people 15:45 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden 15:45 < tsa> oh...and we need support for any kind of journaling fs ASAP. 15:45 < esden> tsa: yepp 15:45 < huebi> But the world does not know enough about ROCK Linux 15:45 < huebi> tsa: ACK 15:46 < huebi> I think about ROCK Linux that it is: 15:46 < huebi> 1. a very stable server distro 15:47 < huebi> 2. a very up to date desktop distro 15:47 < huebi> 3. the best distro build kit I ever saw. 15:47 < huebi> in that order. 15:48 < huebi> First ROCK _must_ be stable without any compromisses 15:48 < bluefire> huebi: Make a details comparison of ROCK and Gentoo and make the plusses of ROCK clear. Put it on the web. 15:49 < huebi> Then there are modern features needed for Windowsusers 15:49 < tsa> huebi: full ack. 15:49 < bluefire> Do you really aim at Windows users? I doubt that. 15:50 < tsa> huebi: but looking at the source.php stuff, we're somewhat behind with a lot of packages. 15:50 < huebi> bluefire: I don't know enough about gentoo ;( Does somebody want to find out what's under the hood of Gentoo? 15:50 < tsa> we don't have to use unstable beta stuff with crash guarantee, but we could at least upgrade to last stable. 15:50 * -> esden will have to finally install it somewhere ... 15:51 < bluefire> huebi: I've begun to install gentoo on my other laptop... but I don't know what's the magic underneath 15:51 < esden> bluefire: pearl scripts that have hardcoded package versions ... 15:51 < esden> and paths 15:52 < huebi> bluefire: Yes, I want to have Windows users switching to Linux. And they need some comfort, need to fell at home fast without the anoying crapp of windows. 15:52 < bluefire> I think I saw a lot of python stuff extracted from gentoo base 15:52 < esden> sorry i mean python not pearl 15:52 < bluefire> huebi: Switch to Linux... ok, but switch to a LFS distro? Not really. 15:52 < huebi> tsa: ACK! No unstable stuff. 15:53 < huebi> bluefire: ROCK Linux as distribution is a kool thing. 15:53 < bluefire> When I installed gentoo I missed my beloved dselect and apt very much. What I don't like is that apt doesn't support client-side compiling. 15:53 < huebi> bluefire: ROCK can be a LFS distro but it must not. 15:53 < bluefire> huebi: no doubt. But windows users are per definition DAOs 15:54 < esden> I imagine what people love so much about gentoo .. the portage system ... 15:54 < tsa> Dau-at-Once? ;-) 15:54 < bluefire> DOA=Dümmster Anznehmender Operator 15:54 < bluefire> Oder DAA = Dümmster Anzunehmender Admin 15:54 < bluefire> Most of them don't even grasp the concept of file permissions 15:55 < tsa> ack. 15:55 < tsa> oh....another thing: we should take care of the apache-* mess. 15:56 < tsa> we definitely need a vanilla apache pkg. 15:56 < bluefire> huebi: Are you at the bbq at the weekend? 15:56 < tsa> perhaps another one with apache+php+mod_ssl. 15:56 < tsa> leave everything else up to the user. 15:57 < huebi> bluefire: There are many people who do not want to know to much about computers. And these people will ever be in the majority. So why shouldn't we give them a little more known GUI in a still very secure distro. And I don't mean Yast or linuxconf. I mean a powerfull GUI of their choice. 15:57 < huebi> bluefire: Yes, I will be there. 15:59 < esden> www.osnews.com: However, there was never before a distribution specifically targetting developers and speed, both at the same time. Enter Gentoo Linux, the fastest loading, fastest-operating Linux distribution to date. 15:59 < esden> argh argh argh 15:59 < bluefire> huebi: Well. KDE or Gnome. I don't know about KDE, but Gnome2 is a mess right now and Gnome1.4 is quite ok but supposedly overladen with features a novice user doesn't understand. Getting a novice user to a system is not only a matter of offering a gui, but of nicely intrgeating the rest of the distro with that gui. 15:59 < huebi> tsa: I made a lage build script for apache, mm, mod_ssl with many comments. Perhaps a very well documented LAMPP package would be a nice solution. 15:59 < tsa> huebi: ok. 16:00 < tsa> why is gentoo fastest-loading and -operating? 16:00 < esden> what the fuck ... ar all these news editors really stupid ??? 16:00 < tsa> does anyone know what is being done for rock PR stuff? 16:00 < bluefire> huebi: Also a new user will want to have a Word, Excel, Browser (with flash and java and stuff) and especially games (no joke). But they also need to be able to use the box for something. 16:01 < esden> tsa: cuz it is beeing optimized for your processor ... while compiling it ... 16:01 < bluefire> Many people play games (which don't run under Linux). Mandrake tries to capture them by including WineX 16:01 < esden> just like rock 16:01 < bluefire> Other do work... but need standard apps which just work 16:01 < bluefire> Include OpenOffice for a start 16:02 < huebi> bluefire: KDE is more like Windows than Gnome. I personally prefer KDE but I only need something to hold all my terminals ;-) 16:02 < bluefire> Mail is also important 16:02 < huebi> bluefire: Till next weekend I'll teach my wife in mutt. 16:02 < bluefire> Evolution is the only decent mail tool i know 16:02 < tsa> hm....perhaps i should ask clifford to give me an own repository. 16:02 < bluefire> except for pine ;) 16:02 < tsa> pine sux. 16:03 < tsa> mutt rulez. 16:03 < tsa> ;) 16:03 < esden> tsa: ack 16:03 < bluefire> mutt has too many key bindings and to little menus 16:03 < bluefire> for my tast 16:03 < bluefire> e 16:03 < huebi> In the moment I use pine. But I want to try out mutt. 16:03 < tsa> menus? for what purpose? 16:03 < esden> tsa: order a respository ... why not ... if you have meny packages ... 16:03 < tsa> esden: currently not more than 10.. 16:04 < esden> tsa: that should be enough 16:04 < tsa> esden: but a lot of maintainers just don't take care of their stuff on sourceforge. 16:04 < tsa> so i see my packages rotting with a lot of crap at sourceforge. 16:04 < bluefire> tsa: for sake of not having to read zillions of keybindings 16:05 < esden> read this : https://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=937&page=all 16:05 < tsa> sourceforge will get dropped sooner or later, just because everything is outdated. 16:05 < tsa> ..essential stuff just doesn't belong there... (opera, apache stuff, ..) 16:05 < esden> this article is a good sight what gentoo looks like for a user 16:06 < tsa> plus the speed that comes when you compile the whole system with the i686 -O3 GCC (optimization) flags. 16:06 < tsa> ARGH. 16:07 < tsa> we're better, we're better than this!!! 16:07 < bluefire> tsa: -O4? 16:07 < tsa> no. arch-specific compiler settings. 16:07 < tsa> we've made benchmarks for this. 16:07 < huebi> bluefire: ACK Games are nessesary. I can see that. 16:08 < huebi> tsa: Yes we are better and we willshow it to the world! 16:09 < huebi> There have been some nice talks to intel on LT. We can be about 20% Faster than Genntoo. 16:09 < huebi> and are the first distro supplying the intel C compiler. 16:10 < huebi> The user must still get a licence from Intel, but the cc binary is in the distro 16:10 < esden> huebi: we RULE ... but we have to show the world that we rule ... 16:10 < huebi> esden: ACK 16:10 < tsa> huebi: it doesn't help that we could be faster. we just have to be. 16:11 < huebi> tsa: ACK 16:11 < tsa> we need big graphs showing up on major sites showing everybody that gentoo is nothing but a slow piece of crap. 16:11 < huebi> And we need nicer and better stuctured Homepage. 16:11 < bluefire> huebi: and a snazzy tutorial 16:11 < tsa> difficult task - we're not webdesigners. 16:12 < huebi> follow documentation and you get spanish docs ;( 16:12 < esden> tsa: so we need to get them ... 16:12 < esden> I will write polish doc's 16:12 < tsa> biggest problems: PR and Docs! 16:12 < esden> ;-) 16:12 < bluefire> Write english docs... others are not of interest to the general majority 16:13 < esden> I know bluefire just kidding 16:13 < tsa> hehe. 16:13 < esden> I have written a BUILD-DIETLIBC doc ... 16:13 < esden> I hope that it will be usefull 16:14 < esden> and I started to create a uClibc target on my laptop 16:14 < tsa> aaah! 16:14 < tsa> My main gripe with the Portage system is that the packages that become available to the main repository are not well tested under Gentoo. I would be much happier if I knew for sure that these developers are asked and pass qualifications testing for their .ebuilds before they add them for public consumption. 16:14 < tsa> here we go... 16:15 < praenti> huebi: i ask my brother or another person that i know, who can made us a good hp design 16:15 < huebi> praenti: kool! 16:15 < esden> praenti: PLEEEEEEEASE do it !!! 16:15 < bluefire> Ah. Important: ability do downgrade a package if the new version is broken. 16:15 < huebi> f*ckin fast, colorfull IE and telnet compatible ;-)) 16:16 < praenti> ok. i try what i can get 16:17 < tsa> cool. thanks. 16:17 < bluefire> praenti: must scale to the size of the browser 16:18 < huebi> bluefire: 4800x1200 16:18 < huebi> pixels *g* 16:18 < bluefire> huebi: 320x200 16:18 < bluefire> pixels ;) 16:18 < huebi> wapp! 16:18 < bluefire> handheld 16:18 < huebi> must work on the IBM Linux watch 16:19 < bluefire> right 16:19 < huebi> hehe 16:19 < bluefire> must boot on it ;) 16:19 < esden> boys you are illl ... 16:19 < huebi> kool message of M$ IE: Booting ROCK Linux... 16:19 < bluefire> esden: scaling is important. though maybe not to 320x200, but to like 600x350 16:19 < huebi> 640x320 16:20 < bluefire> esden: in a usermode-linux hosted by a java-vm ) 16:20 < bluefire> ;) 16:20 < huebi> 640x400 16:20 < bluefire> huebi: substract space for panels/taskbars etc 16:20 < esden> bluefire: we need someone to work on uml-target ... 16:20 < bluefire> uml? 16:20 < esden> usermode-linux 16:21 < esden> UserMode-Linux 16:21 < bluefire> ok 16:21 < blindcoder> HUEBI!!! *cry* 16:21 < tsa> we need lots of work to make a 2.0 release forst. 16:21 < tsa> first. 16:21 < blindcoder> why is the root-disk.img >1.4 MB??? 16:21 * bluefire uses his spare time to further the cause of gtk-gnutella... 16:23 < huebi> blindcoder: broken. too much stuff on it. 16:23 < bluefire> blindcoder: can be if the disk is not formatted... so images can be up to 2MB, no? 16:23 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD90485DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:23 < blindcoder> is there anything deletable on it? 16:24 < huebi> blindcoder: Yes. And I have to fix the .conf to not include CVS directories. 16:24 < esden> intel crap ... on alpha you do not have to mess around with emulated disks ... >_< 16:25 < huebi> esden: On Intel, too 16:25 < huebi> hehe 16:25 < esden> aha ... how ? 16:25 < huebi> esden: You can use a hd-Image 16:25 < blindcoder> esden: urussai! I want to install ROCK on my new router, which is an 486 whos BIOS is unable of booting CDs 16:25 < huebi> blindcoder: It's on the way ;-) 16:26 * -> esden *die* 16:26 * -> esden smoking 16:26 < huebi> But floppy images are much better supported. 16:27 < lizard> how can I deinstall certain ROCK packages ? 16:27 < fake> pkg-remove 16:27 < lizard> aah 16:27 < huebi> lizard: do not uninstall sendmail and linux. 16:28 < lizard> linux hehe ;-) 16:28 < lizard> but why sendmail ? 16:28 < bluefire> huebi: for DAU (and me): need menu driven interface for installing packages 16:28 < huebi> bluefire: esden built one ;-) 16:28 < blindcoder> fake: can you get me the URL for the HP server we talked about? 16:28 < huebi> bluefire: just type Install then menu 16:29 < fake> blindcoder: my boss didn't mail me yet 16:29 < blindcoder> huebi: it's not even mountable via loop-back >_< 16:29 < blindcoder> fake: okay... 16:30 < rxr> re 16:36 < bluefire> My god... getting ROCK from the website is definitly not a trivial task. Not to speak of bootstrapping. Funny joke: to build ROCK you need ROCK... you can do without, but you need to figure out youself how to do it :( 16:37 < bluefire> Gentoo has a definit plus here. It's got a detailed step by step guide for bootstrapping 16:39 < esden> bluefire: It is very easy to bootstrap rock .. you need to get a binary iso ... install it ... ready ;-) 16:40 < esden> after that you can build you a new iso if you want to ... 16:40 < huebi> esden: This is NOT writen somewhere. 16:40 < blindcoder> bluefire: I was able to build ROCK on Debian almost without problems 16:41 < huebi> blindcoder: Write a HowTo plesae 16:41 < bluefire> blindcoder: It should be installable without having any software on the box before. 16:41 < esden> yes blindcoder prease 16:41 < esden> bluefire: for that we need a iso to boot from and compile rock ... 16:42 < esden> or you get the binary iso as I said before 16:42 < rxr> we have the rescue image 16:42 < blindcoder> I didn't do it when I was at it... esden: remember me to do it when I reinstall my current FileServer... I'll build ROCK in it to do so, since it still has Debian on it until my new Router is up and running 16:42 < rxr> simply untar it - chroot - build rock 16:42 < esden> rxr: there are missing tools ... 16:42 < bluefire> It would be good if ROCK was installable similar to gentoo. Using a boot-cd and a chroot 16:43 < rxr> bluefire: why? 16:43 < rxr> the gentoo style compiling on the install box sucks 16:43 < bluefire> rxr: because you don't have to install a full system before optimizing? 16:43 < rxr> not even I want to do this for each box ... ?!?!? 16:43 < huebi> rxr: Write a Howto for that, please. I never knew what to do with rescue. 16:44 < rxr> huebi: Pjotr stats he has a guide ... 16:44 < huebi> rxr: Please get it from him. 16:44 < bluefire> rxr: It take some time. right. but that's the price to pay for a optimized system. People who don't like that still can go with the iso. 16:45 < bluefire> rxr: or with rsyncing from another box... ;) That's why I do most of the time for my own boxens 16:47 < rxr> huebi: it is on the ROCK site ... 16:47 < huebi> rxr: I don't search! 16:48 < bluefire> https://www.rocklinux.de/mirrors.html is an empty page 16:48 < huebi> rxr: You know where it is. So please give complete information like an URL. 16:48 < huebi> ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo/lilo-22.3.1.tar.gz <- new version 16:48 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/pjotr/guide/ 16:48 < rxr> or so 16:49 < huebi> rxr: Thank you. 16:49 < rxr> this harsh comments was more a critic on the current guide open-ness ... 16:49 < huebi> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/pjotr/guide/ f*cked up .tex junk 16:49 < huebi> nobody can read that! 16:49 < bluefire> ROCK is not available on www.linuxiso.org 16:50 < huebi> should be converted or moved from the page. 16:50 < SMP> nobody's supposed to read TeX 16:50 < huebi> hmm. There are more things to do than I erver expected. 16:51 < bluefire> rxr: where are the iso images? And how to find them if the mirror pages is plain empty and it's not listed on the page of choice: linuxiso.org? 16:51 < rxr> bluefire: I'm not responsibile for the ROCK chaos - I only do dRock and 1.7 ... 16:51 < esden> bluefire: I wrote them twice .. but they are not responding ... 16:52 < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/drock.html 16:52 < huebi> SMP: Have you some experiance with .tex? 16:52 < SMP> huebi: no 16:52 < rxr> huebi: latex *.tex 16:52 < rxr> or maybe his makefile will do the job ... 16:52 < hackbard> ehm, u will get nice ps or pdf text if u only run make 16:52 < SMP> just 'make' in that case 16:52 < hackbard> exactly 16:53 < huebi> .html is the choice I would say, everything else should be avoided for html brouwsers. 16:53 < rxr> p{df,s} is also ok for a sophistcated text layout ... 16:55 < huebi> rxr: Not for html browsers. I use lynx to test it. lynx can not read p{df,s} 16:56 < huebi> pdf need acrobat on windows and ps is unreadable on M$ 16:57 < huebi> We should make sure that if somebody is interested in ROCK that the person gets as easy as possible _all_ information. 16:58 < bluefire> huebi: ghostscript exists also on windows 16:58 < huebi> .tex is something nasty on M$ Windows 16:58 < rxr> windows only admins will never be able to install ROCK or gentoo ... 16:58 < huebi> bluefire: Where must I click on? *gg* 16:58 < esden> fake ... are you here ? 16:59 < bluefire> huebi: the big blue E icon. and then enter "www.google.com" and search for "ghostview windows"? 16:59 < bluefire> Which remembers me off a scene: 16:59 < huebi> bluefire: Too complicated! I failed. I now can never use ROCK ;-((( 16:59 < bluefire> Support: Hi, what can I do for you? 16:59 < tsa> ,-----------, 16:59 < tsa> | Click me! | 16:59 < tsa> `-----------' 17:00 < tsa> ;-) 17:00 < bluefire> Client: I can't go to the interweb 17:00 < huebi> *ROFL* 17:00 < fake> esden> somking :Q 17:00 < bluefire> Support: Eh? Which browser are you using? 17:00 < bluefire> Client: What? 17:00 < bluefire> Support: Eh... on your screen... is there a big blue E or a big grey N in the right top corner? 17:01 < bluefire> Client: Big black nothing? 17:01 < huebi> rxr: But there are not only Windows admins who want change there OS. 17:01 < esden> fake: which windowmaker version do you use ? 17:01 < esden> 0.80.0 ? 17:01 < bluefire> Support: Oh... totally my fault.. you have to turn your computer ON! 17:01 < th> esden: /me is using 0.80.0 17:02 < esden> th: is it good ... or should I go for cvs ? 17:02 < th> esden: and i have problems with it 17:02 < esden> th: which kind of problems ? 17:02 < th> esden: it seems to trouble with scroll-wheel or something imps2 17:03 < th> strange mouse behaviour 17:03 < esden> th: I have no wheel at my laptop 17:03 < th> so you prolly won't have any problem :) 17:04 < blindcoder> huebi: I currently have the root-disk right before `dd if=$tmpdev bs=1k count=4500 | gzip -9 > root-disk.img` here... what can I delete??? 17:05 < esden> th: thanks ... 17:05 < huebi> blindcoder: Stuff you don't need ;-) I really don't know it without a look at it. 17:05 < esden> th: If it works correctly on my laptop I will install it an my main machine .. there I have a wheel 17:06 < blindcoder> hmm okay... 17:06 < huebi> I leave in a few minutes. 17:07 < huebi> cu in about 2h, I think 17:07 < esden> cu huebi 17:07 < huebi> blindcoder: I must fix the Copying of the CVS dirs, too 17:07 < huebi> ok 17:07 < huebi> cu 17:09 < fake> esden 0.8 IIRC 17:09 < esden> fake: thanks 17:39 < tsa> und wech. 17:39 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:00 < fake> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/fake/mips-port/ 18:00 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has quit (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) 18:11 * fake drives home 18:11 < fake> *brummbrumm* 18:12 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has joined #rocklinux 18:13 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has quit (Client Quit) 18:16 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD90485DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 18:17 -!- martin__ [~martin@pD9E7B999.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:19 < martin__> hi 18:37 < rxr> hi martin__ 18:50 < martin__> rxr: kdevelop ... :-) 18:51 < rxr> yes - nice prog - what is whit it *g* 18:56 < martin__> you know ... 18:56 < rxr> hehe - jups 18:57 < rxr> I'm just away buying some foods - after that I take a look 18:59 < martin__> root find the QT designer. But he don't create a Makefile, too. (my english ... wuerg) 19:02 < rxr> the qt designer is for clicking gui elemets together - not for creatig makefiles ... 19:02 * rxr away (finally) 19:08 < Freak> soll ich mal böse sein? 19:08 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 19:08 < armijn> re 19:08 < Freak> wb 19:11 < armijn> quite hot 19:12 < snyke> yes :) 19:12 < snyke> too hot 19:13 < snyke> <--- freezer rulz 19:13 < armijn> yeah, well :( 19:13 < fake> re. 19:16 * fake chatting from Indy :) 19:16 < snyke> re fake 19:16 < armijn> fake: with linux? 19:17 < fake> armijn: sure. rock compiling on VT1 ;) 19:17 < fake> VC1 19:18 * fake getting cool b33r. 19:18 < armijn> I wish I could get a beer... 19:19 < fake> it's easy 19:19 < fake> b&d 19:19 < fake> buy and drink 19:19 < armijn> yeah, well, can't leave here right now... 19:20 < fake> excuses, excuses. 19:20 < fake> i'm curious how long glibc will take on this machine 19:20 < armijn> probably quite long 19:20 < armijn> an Indy? 19:21 < armijn> what is it? r5k? r4400? r4600? 19:21 < fake> i mean compared to the indigo2 which is r4400 19:21 < fake> this is a r4600 19:22 < armijn> ok 19:22 < fake> r4600 = better integer handling 19:23 < armijn> well, I've got better beer handling 19:23 < armijn> just no beer :( 19:23 < fake> me wants cpu upgrade kit to R5000 - Only 500$ :( 19:24 < armijn> hmm 19:24 < huebi> re 19:25 < armijn> https://www.lesbian.mine.nu/ 19:26 < armijn> hehe 19:28 * rxr back 19:28 < fake> re rxr. you are fast. 19:29 < armijn> I think we should have porn-get in ROCK 19:29 < rxr> it is not a such a prob to get some food in the middle of Berlin ... 19:29 < fake> hunting? 19:31 < huebi> fake: Wildschweine! No joke. 19:31 < fake> tasty. 19:31 < fake> lots of male cows. 19:31 < fake> green male cows. 19:32 < armijn> green 19:32 < fake> j0. 19:33 < rolla> :) 19:33 < armijn> with fungus? 19:33 < armijn> cows gone bad? 19:33 < fake> fungus? 19:33 < armijn> you know, green stuff 19:33 < huebi> These wild pigs are a problem in the forests arround the city. If you go with a bag in your hand through the forestthe pigs only let you go on after you have emtied the bag ;-) 19:33 < armijn> that's in your fridge when you keep stuff too long 19:34 < fake> armijn: no, actuallz i was talking about people employed bu the goverment to be the executives of law and order. 19:34 < armijn> aah, pigs! 19:34 < armijn> no cows 19:34 < fake> we call them bulls 19:34 < huebi> armijn: Ahh. short before the meat stats to be alive again? 19:35 < huebi> cops 19:35 < fake> your helpful friend 19:38 * huebi bootin U30 19:39 * fake knows where huebi lives *mwahaha* 19:39 < huebi> fake: ? 19:40 < armijn> yeah, we tracked you! 19:40 < fake> ripclaw showed me :)) 19:40 < armijn> at CCC we implanted a small device 19:40 < armijn> which emits radio signals 19:40 < armijn> so we can follow huebi everywhere 19:41 < fake> cat /dev/echelon | grep huebi 19:41 < armijn> huebi: we know what you're eating... 19:41 < armijn> we know everything 19:41 < huebi> armijn: the Question is: What am I eating? 19:41 < fake> not enough 19:42 < fake> unhealthy stuff ;) 19:42 * huebi having move Jolt ;-) 19:42 < huebi> s/v/r/ 19:42 < armijn> huebi: Saumagen! 19:43 < armijn> the stuff that Helmut likes so much :) 19:43 < armijn> pig's stomach 19:43 < huebi> armijn: Forget that. But Birnes home town has a very good ice cafe 19:44 < armijn> Birnes? I was referring to Kohl :) 19:44 < fake> his head's shape equals a birne 19:45 < huebi> birne <- babelfish it ;-) 19:45 < huebi> ...more Jolt... 19:48 * rolla heads hurts 19:49 < fake> all of em' ? 19:49 < rolla> yup 19:49 < fake> eww 19:50 < armijn> dual head 19:50 * fake hands rolla some cool b33r. 19:50 < rolla> yeah that I need ;) 19:51 < armijn> huebi: a pear? 19:51 * fake testing challenge cable 19:51 < armijn> huebi: rather a large one then! 19:52 < huebi> armijn: Yes. A big fat large pear ;-) 19:57 < fake> rolla: *jumps around* it works! 19:57 < huebi> fake: ;-00 19:57 < huebi> ;-)) 19:59 < fake> my flat is buggy 19:59 < rolla> buggy ? 19:59 < snyke> *g* 19:59 < fake> everytime i get new hardware it gets smaller and smaller. 19:59 < snyke> lol 20:02 < armijn> space leak 20:02 < armijn> send in a bug report 20:03 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p508176F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 20:04 < fake> /home/bin/bugreport 20:04 < fake> Error: No pencil availible. 20:05 < fake> what is the minor/major device-nr of a pencil? 20:05 < rolla> 4/0 20:05 < fake> mknod c 4 0 /dev/pencil 20:05 < fake> /home/bin/bugreport 20:06 < fake> Error> No Paper availible. 20:06 < fake> *argh* 20:06 < rolla> ;) 20:06 < fake> ;) 20:07 < huebi> fake: This is a big bug. You should better order a printer with direct tree intake. 20:07 < huebi> hehe 20:08 < fake> eh? 20:08 < fake> train.. station... 20:08 < armijn> hehhe 20:08 < huebi> big printer. 20:08 < huebi> so big that it not only can handle paper. 20:08 < armijn> "tray 2 empty. Load new tree" 20:09 < huebi> also whole trees. 20:09 < huebi> like in front of my house. 20:09 < armijn> "warning: tree low" 20:09 < huebi> commercial printers have then a forest tray ;-) 20:13 < clifford> rxr: QMAKESPEC - what's that? 20:13 < fake> *ROFL* @huebi 20:14 < armijn> clifford: sounds like some Qt stuff 20:14 < clifford> it is qt stuff - I need to know what value it should have and if there is a reason why it's not set in /etc/profile.d/qt 20:15 < armijn> hell, I wouldn't know 20:16 < armijn> oh, some old germans here? 20:16 < armijn> that were young in the 80s? 20:16 < fake> how old is old? 20:16 -!- huebi is now known as opa 20:16 < armijn> and a bit into hardrock? 20:16 < opa> jo armijn 20:16 < opa> ? 20:16 < armijn> hehe... 20:17 < armijn> huebi: you were young then and into hardrock? 20:17 * fake likes hardrock too 20:17 < fake> especially from the 80s 20:17 < opa> no . Only Ramstein and MegaHerz 20:17 < armijn> you guys remember "Doro"? 20:17 < opa> jo 20:17 < armijn> hehe, I saw her last saturday :) 20:17 -!- opa is now known as huebi 20:18 < huebi> armijn: And what happend? 20:18 < fake> o'course! 20:18 < armijn> huebi: nothing 20:18 < armijn> huebi: shel played and we applauded, that's it 20:18 < huebi> armijn: meet her again. 20:18 < fake> MegaHerz RULEZ! 20:18 < huebi> fake: ACK 20:18 < armijn> huebi: I will! in about 3 weeks in Belgium :)) 20:18 < fake> a cool band from munich 20:18 < armijn> she will play at the Graspop Metal Meeting 20:18 < fake> one of the two band's i saw live ;) 20:19 < armijn> fake: you saw two bands live? 20:19 < huebi> armijn: rent a baby. Everytime a good thing to get in contact with a woman. 20:19 < armijn> huebi: I'm just in it for the music... 20:19 < fake> 0-800-RENT-A-BABY 20:19 < huebi> *LOOOOL* 20:19 < fake> armijn: yes, i'm a looser. 20:19 < armijn> fake: you mean, the two bands you saw live this month? 20:19 < armijn> or in your entire life? 20:20 < fake> armijn: no, in the last 20 years 20:20 < armijn> urgh 20:20 < fake> i can't remember any before that. 20:20 < armijn> hehe... 20:20 < armijn> I go to about 25-30 concerts/festivals a year 20:20 < fake> and the other one was nasty. 20:20 < armijn> nasty? 20:20 < armijn> with naked girls, etc.? 20:22 < huebi> armijn: hehe 20:22 < fake> armijn: no, it was bad music. 20:23 < fake> if you count shows with naked ladies as concerts.... 20:23 < fake> *starts counting* 20:23 < fake> j/k 20:24 < armijn> heh 20:26 < rxr> does anyone know whether an DSL modem can be connected via an switch or hub to the NIC ? 20:26 < huebi> rxr: jo, you can 20:26 < clifford> rxr: QMAKESPEC - what's that? 20:26 < huebi> only a very dump hub is possible. 20:26 < rxr> huebi: with both ? - I heard that it doesn't work with one oth them ... 20:27 < huebi> but hubs have no arp hardware 20:27 < huebi> rxr: only hubs 20:27 * SMP didums 20:27 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:27 < huebi> _dump_ hubs. without any inteligence. 20:27 < huebi> hi SMP ;-) 20:27 < netcrow> hi 20:28 < huebi> hi netcrow 20:29 < clifford> rxr: still here? 20:29 < rxr> jups 20:29 < clifford> QMAKESPEC - what's that? 20:29 < rxr> mom 20:29 < rxr> clifford: /me was phoning ;-) 20:29 < rxr> clifford: where is this WMAKESPEC from ? 20:29 < rxr> er QMAKE... 20:29 < clifford> i see .. :-) 20:30 < fake> clifford: the mips-port page is.... started. 20:30 < rxr> huebi: much thanks - I was noth sure which of both work - and I heared of some problems with one of them - so thanks for pointing out only dump jubs work ;-)= 20:30 < clifford> I get the following error when trying to configure mycc (a mysql frontend) 20:30 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 20:30 < fake> people/fake/mips-port/ 20:30 < clifford> checking "if Qt Version in /usr is >= 3.0.2"... yes 20:30 < clifford> configure: creating ./config.status 20:30 < clifford> config.status: creating MyCC.pro 20:30 < clifford> Creating Makefile with qmake 20:30 < clifford> QMAKESPEC has not been set, so configuration cannot be deduced. 20:30 < clifford> Error processing project file: MyCC.pro 20:30 < clifford> qmake failed, aborting 20:31 < rxr> clifford: hm - obviously some qmake fluff - but I never saw s.th. like this ... 20:31 < clifford> fake: I'm now linking the mips page ... 20:32 < huebi> clifford: can you convert the .tex files to html in Documentation? 20:32 < rxr> maybe the mycc has some syntax error in the qmakefile ?!? 20:33 < fake> clifford: thanks! 20:33 < armijn> fake: s/dontations/donations/ 20:34 < clifford> fake: done. 20:34 < clifford> rxr: There is only a MyCC.pro file which is used by qmake .. 20:36 < fake> armijn: fixed. 20:36 < fake> thanks ;)( 20:36 < fake> -( 20:37 -!- Potjok|MiH [~potjok@en-51073.solcon.nl] has joined #rocklinux 20:38 -!- Potjok|MiH [~potjok@en-51073.solcon.nl] has left #rocklinux () 20:39 < clifford> rxr: after setting QMAKESPEC=linux-g++ and copying the mkspecs/ from the qt sources to /usr/mkspecs it's working. 20:45 < clifford> rxr: so maybe we should patch qmake so its using something like /usr/share/qt/mkspecs/$QMAKESPEC instead of /usr/mkspecs/ and set $QMAKESPEC in /etc/profile/qt ? 20:49 < clifford> rxr: still here? 20:50 < clifford> however - i need to go now ... 20:50 < clifford> cu. 20:50 < armijn> heh, probably fighting is modem 20:50 < armijn> s/is/his/ 20:50 * clifford is away: away. 20:53 < armijn> yeah, am off 20:53 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 21:06 -!- the][owl [~mail-spam@B5bd4.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:06 < the][owl> moin 21:07 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p508176F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:07 < fake> re bluefire 21:07 < fake> hi the][owl ! 21:07 < bluefire> hi again 21:14 * fake eating cup noodles 21:16 < fake> (with ESD-Protection, of course) 21:24 -!- tomik [~tomik@193.109.181.247] has joined #rocklinux 21:24 < tomik> re 21:25 < fake> now let's see if this XFS patch from SGI is any good... 21:27 -!- raffi [~raffi@chello212186144154.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:27 < raffi> Hi. 21:28 < fake> gruezi! 21:28 < raffi> Ist es ok wenn man hier deutsch spricht? 21:39 < bluefire> raffi: wenns sein muss 21:39 < bluefire> raffi: aber Englisch is besser 21:40 < snyke> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL 21:40 < snyke> esden? 21:40 < bluefire> raffi: Aber it ist in principle wurscht 21:45 < raffi> ok 21:47 < huebi> re 21:47 < fake> re huebi 21:48 < huebi> hmm DLT Laufwerke moegen keine heissen Rechner ;( 21:49 < huebi> Ich habe mir dann mal ein Buch beim fsck genommen und ein bischen gelesen ;-) 21:50 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# ll /lost+found/ |wc -l 21:50 < huebi> 119 21:51 < huebi> eieieiei 21:52 < tomik> rip rip 21:52 < rxr> 7912 rene 18 0 15276 2348 2300 R 63.5 0.4 427:14 xemacs 21:52 < rxr> Hm - this explains why my ROCK build is that slow ... 21:52 < huebi> hmm. I think a new installation could be a good thing ;-) 21:53 < huebi> rxr: What's up with xemacs? 21:53 < rxr> I have - don't know simply screwed up ... - but I have running a known to be broken versin running here - maybe I should run a Build-Pkg on my sysmtem ... 21:55 < rxr> s/I have -/I/ ;-) 21:57 < raffi> *lag*, bye 21:57 -!- raffi [~raffi@chello212186144154.15.vie.surfer.at] has quit ("[BX] The name's X. BitchX.") 22:04 -!- martin__ [~martin@pD9E7B999.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:06 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082A9D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:06 < tsa> tag 22:06 < huebi> huhu tsa 22:07 < tsa> huhu huebi 22:07 < tsa> gr... 22:07 * tsa versucht hier, nen windows-pc zu installieren.. 22:08 < tsa> wo ist die globale einstellung "geh weg und lass mich in ruhe, ich darf das!"? 22:08 < huebi> tsa: Helpdesk anrufen und "kaputt. Geht nicht! Hilfe!" sagen... 22:08 < fake> tsa: format c: /autotest 22:08 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B999.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:11 < tsa> ..wird nen schreibmaschinenrechner fuer vatern zu hause.. 22:11 < tsa> nur stress mit dem windows-zeug.. 22:19 < huebi> re 22:19 < huebi> tsa: Warum kein Linux mit OpenOffice? 22:20 < huebi> guter fernwartbarkeit. 22:20 < huebi> kein Aerger mit Viren. 22:20 < fake> genau..... OpenOffice is ziemlich gut. 22:21 < huebi> fake: So'n Windowsfreak hat mir gesagt, alles was er machen will geht auch mit OO 22:21 < tsa> hm...nett. 22:21 < huebi> tsa: Zeig' doch mal deine Windoofslizens... hehe 22:21 < fake> huebi: ich werde in meiner arbeit gezwungen mir PowerPoint Folien druchzulesen, Excel-Dateien zu bearbeiten, meine Ausbildungsbeerichte in Word zu schreiben... all das kann OpenOffice 1a. 22:22 < tsa> hm...nett. 22:22 < huebi> fake: Noch besser als ich dachte ;-)) 22:22 < tsa> wie stabil laeuft das so? 22:22 < huebi> tsa: und du sparst Dir den ganzen Windoof Areger. 22:23 < tsa> hehe...alleine das waer es schon wert ;) 22:23 < huebi> tsa: Ich habe es nur wenig benutzt. Halt als Schreibmaschine. Ging gut. 22:23 < tsa> hm...ok 22:23 < tsa> ich habs bisher nur installiert ;) 22:23 < fake> ja... hatte bis jetzt auch noch keine probleme. 22:23 < fake> allerdings die binary-distrib. selsbt gebaut hab ichs nicht. 22:24 < tsa> dito...dauert zu lange.. 22:24 < huebi> tsa: Ich bringe meiner Frau auch ROCK Linux bei. Ich bin doch nicht bloed und vergeude meine Zeit mit MasoSoft. 22:26 < huebi> Wenn sie erst mal so alle Grundlagen zum bedienen hat, habe ich ueberhaupt nichts mehr mit irgend einer Betriebssystemk*cke zu tun. 22:26 < huebi> Linux funktioniert. Und ROCK Linux besondrs. 22:26 < huebi> gut 22:26 < tsa> jupp.. 22:26 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50812FE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:26 < tsa> hi thalerim 22:26 < huebi> muh thalerim ;-)) 22:27 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50812FE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:27 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50812FE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:28 < thalerim> hi 22:29 < huebi> tsa: Deinen Vater an ROCK Linux zu gewoehnen ist einfacher, als es auf den ersten Blick aussieht. 22:29 < huebi> tsa: Traust Du dich? 22:30 < fake> huebi predigt wieder ;) 22:30 < huebi> tsa: Ausserdem ist er bestimmt ganz schoen stolz, wenn er mitkriegt, was Du am ROCK Linux so alles geleistet hast 22:30 < huebi> fake: wer sonst? ;-)) 22:31 < huebi> oder : was sonst? 22:31 < fake> Ma-Thil-Da! 22:31 < fake> Haaai! 22:31 < huebi> fake: lass sie doch endlich los. 22:31 < thalerim> huebi: hattest zeit was zu schreiben? 22:31 < fake> loslassen? 22:32 < huebi> thalerim: Nee, noch nicht. 22:32 < huebi> fake: jo 22:32 < thalerim> huebi: kommjet noch? 22:32 < thalerim> Freak: sag ma, wo ist eigentlich holarse hin?? 22:32 < fake> #dummstell# 22:33 < Freak> thalerim: seh ich aus wie die Auskunft? 22:33 < huebi> fake: :P 22:33 < fake> gute frage., wie sieht die auskunft aus? 22:33 < thalerim> Freak: dann eben nicht 22:33 < Freak> jaja sei nich gleich eingeschnappt ;) 22:33 < Freak> fake: nicht wie ich, will ich hoffen! 22:34 < Freak> fake: obwohl sich dann diese ganzen fragen erklären würden... 22:34 < fake> fuer dich oder fuer die auskunft? *fg* 22:34 < Freak> hehe 22:35 < huebi> Nervt das Predigen? 22:35 < fake> nein, es ist wie balsam in meinen ohren. 22:36 < huebi> fake: wirklich? 22:37 < fake> jap. 22:37 < fake> ich kann aber nur fuer mich reden, versteht sich. 22:37 < fake> ich bin nur 23 von 23. 22:37 < huebi> Nervt das Predigen irgend jemanden hier? 22:37 < huebi> ;-) 22:38 < thalerim> fake: cooler wars wo noch matilda da war *fg+ 22:38 < fake> ich weiss jetzt wo huebi den namen her hat. 22:38 < fake> bei ihm in der naehe is die mathildenhoehe ;) 22:38 < huebi> hehe 22:39 < fake> eigentlich waere das beste maskottchen fuer rock der steinbeisser Junior aus der Unendlichen Geschichte. 22:40 < fake> und Steinbeisser - Pap is BSD ;) 22:40 < thalerim> hm 22:41 < fake> es gibt doch auch steinboecke - warum keine steinkuehe? 22:42 < thalerim> ich bin steinbock :-9 22:42 < fake> ich bin steinbock mit dauerwelle. 22:42 < fake> (widder) 22:42 < thalerim> lol 22:42 < thalerim> darauf muss man erstmal kommen 22:43 < thalerim> huebi: tobrit@freebits.de -- falls du's fertig bekommst 22:47 < fake> darf hier jmd kicken? 22:49 < tsa> noe....zumindest ich nicht. 22:49 < fake> the][owl will gekickt werden.... 22:49 < tsa> wegen? 22:50 < thalerim> the][owl: fühle dich geohrfeigt/gevierteilt/gekickt! 22:50 < fake> [owl(~mail-spam@B5bd4.pppool.de)] kicke mich doch bitte mal eben (the][owl) 22:50 < tsa> kick dich doch selber. 22:51 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/") 22:52 < tsa> hm... 22:52 * fake summons the almighty SMP 22:52 < huebi> 600m von der Mathildenhoehe entfernt habe ich bis Januar gewohnt 22:52 < fake> aha... da schau her. 22:52 < fake> huebi du bist doch so ein kicker, oder? 22:53 < huebi> Irgend was laeuft hier instabil. schon wieder fsck 22:53 * thalerim kicks ass. 22:53 < huebi> fake: Kicken kann ich nicht ;> 22:53 < thalerim> huebi kann nur kratzen und piecksen :-) 22:54 < tsa> hm...mist. 22:54 < tsa> selber kicken klappt doch nicht. 22:56 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50812FE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("nosce te ipsum | gneauthi seauton") 22:57 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7B999.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:57 * fake wird sich alsdann zurueckziehen. 22:58 < huebi> fake: Gehab dich wohl... 22:58 < fake> habt dank! 22:59 < huebi> nochmal reboot. Fuer neuen kernel. 22:59 < tsa> n8 fake 22:59 < fake> *verbeug* 22:59 -!- clifford_ [~clifford@M097P003.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 22:59 < tsa> re clifford 23:00 -!- the][owl [~mail-spam@B5bd4.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:02 < huebi> re 23:03 < tsa> re huebi 23:03 -!- clifford [~clifford@M082P020.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:04 < huebi> so, der naechste test... 23:06 < huebi> ich bin ja mal gespannt, ob die kiste jetzt wieder stehen bleibt... 23:07 < huebi> hmm, sieht gut aus. 23:08 < huebi> Ich glaube dass die Speicherverwaltung nicht funktioniert hat. 23:08 < huebi> 4GB muss im Kernel bei mehr als 900MB aktiviert sein. 23:09 < huebi> Sonst bleibt der kernel wohl einfach unter hoher Last stehen. 23:10 < huebi> 11:10pm up 9 min, 1 user, load average: 81.70, 52.98, 21.89 23:11 < huebi> sieht alles gut aus *freu* 23:12 < huebi> Im default kernel sollte dann wohl 4GB aktiviert werden. Was sagt ihr dazu? 23:14 < huebi> Hallo? RFC ;-) 23:34 -!- lizard [~lizard@pD90485FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:34 < tsa> hehe 23:34 < tsa> hi lizard 23:34 < tsa> huebi: keine ahnung. 23:34 < lizard> hi tsa 23:36 < huebi> tsa: Na dann frage ich morgen mal auf der liste 23:40 < tsa> huebi: jo, mach das. 23:40 * tsa bastelt grad an ein paar updates.. 23:40 < huebi> tsa: Krieg dein Vater jetzt immer noch Windows? 23:42 < huebi> reboot.. 23:43 < tsa> hehe.....mal sehen. 23:51 < huebi> re 23:52 < huebi> Was kann man eigendlich gegen unresolved symbols im kernel machen? 23:52 < rxr> fixed - oder auf linux-kernel reporten ... 23:53 < rxr> s/fixed/fixen/ 23:53 < huebi> rxr: den output von depmod -a und die .config? 23:55 < rxr> so ungefaehr - vorher sollten wir vielleicht mal schauen ob der gebackportete kernel-configurator von ROCK tut ;-) 23:55 < rxr> aber bitte morgen - ich suche gleich mein Bett ;-) 23:56 < huebi> rxr: Ich auch. Danke fuer den Hinweis ;-)) 23:56 < tsa> rxr: ich schicke heute noch oder morgen nen haufen patches...auch gegen deinen tree.. 23:57 < huebi> alsa failed: 23:57 < huebi> loading cache ./config.cache within ltconfig 23:57 < huebi> ltconfig: you must specify a host type if you use `--no-verify' 23:57 < huebi> Try `ltconfig --help' for more information. 23:57 < huebi> configure: error: libtool configure failed 23:58 < huebi> Ist das schon gefixed? 23:59 < rxr> tsa: oh ich habe hier auch zich updates - und fixes darf ich zuerst ;-) --- Log closed Tue Jun 18 00:00:24 2002