--- Log opened Mon Jun 17 00:00:26 2002
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00:05 < huebi> wo wird denn arch_machine gesetzt?
00:05 < rxr> parse_config (oder so) ?
00:06 < huebi> nee. Nirgendwo in scripts
00:07 < huebi> ahh. in  arch-conf/*/archtest*out.
00:11 < hackbard> clifford: updated to util-linux version 2.11r (old one 2.11m). it now umounts correctly. but 2.11 knows -l option ... seems it just dont work properly.
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00:36 < raffi_> Good night.
00:37 < huebi> n8 raffi_ 
00:37 < raffi_> night huebi
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00:44 < rxr> cu all
00:44 < rxr> n8
00:45 < bluefire> good nicht rxr
00:45 < huebi> nacht rxr 
00:46 * clifford is away: away
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01:45 < huebi> nacht ;-)
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02:07 < hackbard> bin auch pennen, bis morgen!
02:16 < bluefire> good night
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08:09 < huebi> moin
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08:14 < huebi> hi ringo78 
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09:02 < huebi> cu later ;-)
09:38 < esden> haaalo ...
09:39 < esden> wieso kann ich ueber web die url http://download.rocklinux.de/1.6/ nicht aufmachen ... der server meint "You don't have permission to access /1.6/ on this server." 
09:39 < esden> mensch
09:50 < esden> soo .. bin wieder weg
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10:00 < huebi> re
10:00 < rxr> moin huebi 
10:00 < huebi> esden: weil da noch nichts drin ist
10:01 < huebi> moin rene ;-)
10:01 < huebi> rxr: Der kernel compiled jetzt *freu*
10:02 < huebi> und so langsam verstehe ich die Zusammenhaenge bei der kernelkonfiguration.
10:02 < rxr> huebi: das ist gut ;-)!
10:03 < huebi> Heute werde ich dann sehr wahrscheinlich 1.5.16 fertig bekommen
10:05 < rxr> Warum sind solche announcements auf /. ??? : MrOutlander writes "Gentoo Linux releases version 1.2 of their cutting edge distribution with many updates including KDE 3.0.1 (20020604) and GNOME 2 (beta, 20020607) support. I love emerge :)"
10:07 < huebi>  /. kommt mir ein bischen wie das Heise-Forum vor. Man muss nur nicht so viel klicken *g*
10:08 < rxr> Ohhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Wie kann man sooooo doof sein. Post zu der Gnome2 ROCK news: Did Gentoo Linux ever get an article like this? It's been offering Gnome 2 since beta 5 ... I'm running Gnome 2 under Gentoo right now, and it was as painless as painless can be.
10:10 < rxr> I'll finish dRock-1.6.0 today - and when the binary ISO is finished and synced to the UNI server, I'll do a freshmeat announcement ...
10:11 < huebi> rxr: Ich glaube, an so viel Hohlheit muessen wir uns leider so langsam gewoehnen. Das kommt dann manchmal vor, wenn Halbwissende Ahnung haben wollen.
10:16 < rxr> huebi: ich glaube ich replye mit: "Yes they <a href="http://news.gnome.org/gnome-news/1019744507/">did</a>. Gentoo is basically what ROCK Linux introduced in 1998 - the difference is a less advanced build environment and more PR. Currently we start to change the PR thing ..."
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10:19 < tsa> moin.
10:19 < rxr> hi tsa
10:20 < huebi> rxr: Yes. Good Idea. I like that.
10:20 < tsa> hi rxr
10:20 < tsa> *gaehn*
10:20 < huebi> hi tsa 
10:20 < tsa> hi huebi
10:20 < tsa> http://fun.drno.de/pics/comicstars/Garfield_Coffee.gif   <-- good idea
10:23 < rxr> tsa: yesterday I updatesd _all_ x11 and rene packages ;-)
10:27 < tsa> rxr: so everything is broken now? ;)
10:27 < rxr> no!
10:27 < tsa> we'll see...
10:28 < rxr> so far less errors then in the last build - arround 60 ...
10:28 < tsa> i'll wait for clifford to fix the dietlibc problem in stage 0 and then start a new build..
10:28 < rxr> most of the updaes where Gnome2 releated.
10:28 < tsa> as expected.. ;)
10:29 < rxr> After this update I'll start to fix the other problems like libpng, libtiff, ghostscript, cdrdao, ...
10:29 < rxr> all gcc-3.1 probs ..
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10:37 < huebi> * cliffords 6h reconnect ;-)
10:39 < tsa> hehe...
10:40 < tsa> GRRR...
10:40 < tsa> rpm-based systems suck.
10:40 < tsa> cdrdao: Symbol `__vt_3ios' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
10:40 < tsa> cdrdao: Symbol `__vt_8ofstream.3ios' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
10:40 < tsa> cdrdao: Symbol `__vt_7ostream.3ios' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking
10:41 < tsa> the message is wrong, anyway.... should be "consider installing different distro" ..
10:41 < huebi> tsa: ACK *gg*
10:41 < tsa> (RH system with updated libstdc++ rpm)
10:44 < huebi> tsa: Now you have exact the reason why I changed from RH/Mandrake to ROCK Linux ;-)
10:45 < tsa> ack. splitting up single packages in different rpm's just doesn't work.
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10:54 < tsa> hi tomik
10:56 < tomik> hi tsa
10:56 < tomik> hi all
10:58 < huebi> hi tomik 
11:15 < fake> mornin
11:15 < huebi> hi fake ;-)
11:16 < tsa> hi fake
11:16 < fake> <- hat seine Indy *jump*
11:19 < praenti> hi
11:21 < praenti> huebi: do we have already webcvs?
11:21 < huebi> praenti: jo
11:22 < praenti> huebi: can you give me the url please?
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11:22 < holyolli> moin
11:22 < fake> morgen!
11:22 < huebi> hi holyolli 
11:22 < holyolli> hi fake
11:22 < holyolli> hi huebi :)
11:22 < tsa> huhu holyolli
11:22 < praenti> huebi: or is it cvs.rocklinux.de
11:23 < praenti> hi holyolli 
11:24 < huebi> http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/
11:27 < rxr> ok /me at Uni now - cu
11:27 < tsa> have fun..
11:27 < tsa> cu rxr
11:28 < fake> cu rxr
11:28 < huebi> cu rxr 
11:30 * praenti at lunch
11:32 < fake> guten hunger
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11:40 < tsa> irgendwem langweilig?
11:40 < tsa> http://mail2.rbac.ac.th/php/phpMyAdmin-2.2.2-rc1/main.php?lang=en&server=1
11:42 < tsa> http://ontwerpen1.khlim.be/~groepc/phpmyadmin/main.php?lang=en&server=1
11:42 < huebi> tsa: *lol*
11:44 < huebi> tsa: Wie hast du die gefunden?
11:46 < tsa> http://www.videopimp.com/vpADMIN/phpadmin/main.php?server=1
11:46 < tsa> huebi: google regelt.
11:46 < tsa> "welcome to phpmyadmin"
11:46 < huebi> hehe
11:46 < huebi> tsa: Externe Backups werden datenbankbasiert richtig einfach und billig.
11:47 < tsa> jupp..
11:49 < huebi> Die Defaulteinstellungen sind bei MySQL ja schon schoen offen. Das aber nirgend wo genau steht, wie das Ding dichtgemacht wird, macht MySQL ganz schoen gefaehrlich.
11:50 < fake> tj0r.
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12:05 < tsa> GTK+ 2.0.5 released
12:06 < tsa> freshmeat is br0ken.
12:07 < tsa> grrr.
12:07 < holyolli> hehe
12:07 < hackbard> rxr: btw, default build broke in stage 3 jack!
12:07 < tsa> hehehe
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12:09 < hackbard> later ..
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12:13 < bluefire> Moin
12:13 < tsa> hi bluefire
12:13 < holyolli> hi bluefire
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12:55 < tsa> cu
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12:57 < esden> hi all
12:57 < huebi> hi esden ;-)
12:57 < blindcod1r> hi esden 
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12:57 < esden> huebi HI !
12:57 < esden> hi blindcoder 
12:58 < esden> huebi: what is the newest 1.5.x iso ?
12:58 < esden> or is there already 1.6 rc stuff there ?
12:58 < huebi> http://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.15/rock-intel-i586-base+opt-1.5.15_2002-05-27_02h30.iso
12:59 < esden> is that the one from lxtag ?
12:59 < huebi> jo
12:59 < esden> hmm ... 
12:59 < esden> huebi: do you consider a new iso in the next two weeks ?
13:00 < huebi> I allmost fixed the kernel package linux today. The kernel is now configured right.
13:00 < esden> I need something to give the people from lugin ...
13:00 < huebi> esden: I consider a new iso in the next three days.
13:00 < esden> huebi: very good
13:00 < esden> I have to feed them with rock
13:00 < esden> and assimilate ;-)
13:01 < huebi> esden: jo, kool ;-)
13:01 * -> esden drinking jolt
13:01 < huebi> MATHILDA WILL LIKE THEM, TOO
13:01 < esden> huebi: arrrgh >_<
13:01 < esden> huebi: mathilda will become our pet if I see it right ?
13:02 < huebi> esden: Is there some Jolt now on your screen? 
13:02 < huebi> pet or better mascot I think
13:03 < esden> huebi: i was near to spit it on my display ... but I could prevent it ...
13:03 < huebi> esden: What do you think about that idea
13:03 < huebi> ?
13:03 < esden> huebi: yes a mascot
13:03 < huebi> Others have boring Pinguins. Why should we not have a cow?
13:03 < huebi> Something very different 
13:04 < esden> huebi: cult of the dead cow has cow as a mascot ... and distributed net too ... IIRC
13:04 < esden> huebi: but penguin riding a com sounds funny
13:04 < esden> ;-)
13:04 < huebi> But swimming with Pinuguins in ZA is really funny. They are really fast under water.
13:04 < fake> *boerp*
13:04 < esden> huhu fake 
13:05 < esden> ZA ??
13:05 < huebi> fake: Huhu
13:05 < blindcoder> moin fake
13:05 < esden> @ huebi 
13:05 < huebi> South Africa
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13:05 < esden> ahh .. hehe
13:05 < fake> me had meat. me is not hungry. me want sleep.
13:06 < esden> fake: keyboards are good for sleeping on ...
13:06 < esden> fake: get your sleep my friend ... ;-)
13:06 < blindcoder> me want small tactical nuclear warhead.
13:06 < fake> huebi: noone has an ascii-art mascot ;
13:06 < fake> )
13:07 < huebi> At the south coast of ZA there are living Pinguins. Very "merkwuerdig" to see them staying on the beach at 35 Degree Centigrade
13:07 < huebi> erm Celsius ;-)
13:07 < blindcoder> strange?
13:07 < huebi> blindcoder: jou
13:08 < huebi> that's the word I searched for
13:10 < esden> argh ... *stomp* : http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/17/0435227
13:11 < huebi> #reallife: 13:08 < ungrzna> http://rocklinux.de/projects/drock/screens/desk_natalie.jpg 
13:11 < huebi> 13:08 < ungrzna> (egal wo du dich versteckst, ich finde dich;))
13:11 < blindcoder> esden: with linking this you are now officially assigned the new duty to post every ROCK-Release to Slashdot :D
13:12 < huebi> blindcoder: FULLY ACK
13:12 < esden> I do not know where and how to post it ... >_<
13:12 < fake> that's what i thought upon reading this, too
13:12 < blindcoder> then go, and learn!
13:12 < esden> fake: so you can do it
13:12 < fake> *@slashdot.org
13:12 < esden> blindcoder: why me ????
13:13 < fake> esden: me baka. me not post slashdot. me not l33t.
13:13 < esden> fake: *smack*
13:14 < blindcoder> esden: what do you say to me if i complain about some software not being what I like?
13:15 < esden> blindcoder: *glummel_grummel*
13:15 < blindcoder> fake: your gf is l33t. let her post :D
13:15 < fake> blindcoder: you wouldn't want THAT .... :)
13:15 < esden> http://slashdot.org/submit.pl
13:16 < esden> fake: sure we want ... she could also draw the announcements ;-)
13:16 < blindcoder> good boy, esden!
13:16 < fake> yeah. and send in a photoshop drawing.
13:17 < esden> fake: sure ;-) she could also draw it in gimp ;-)
13:18 < esden> ok boys .. do we have to submit something to sf ?
13:22 < blindcoder> ...
13:22 < fake> esden: not yet... or did rene already do a release
13:22 < fake> ?
13:22 < fake> DEV-release
13:23 < fake> that would be something to post
13:23 < esden> fake: don't know ... I have to look If he did
13:24 < huebi> In the next three days there will be a official release of ROCK Linux 1.5.16
13:25 < blindcoder> err...
13:25 < blindcoder> is that right: http://www1.rocklinux.org/releases/ ???
13:26 < huebi> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/huebi/rock16/ <- I'll update this one ;-) and announce it on the list
13:27 < esden> huebi: when do you consider to release 1.6 ?
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13:28 < huebi> esden: I consider to release 1.6 when the following is given:
13:29 < fake> http://webalizer.net/msfree.gif
13:29 < tomik> xe 
13:29 < huebi> The platforms sparc, sparc64, alpha, ppc and ia32 are fully supported.
13:29 < huebi> hi tomik ;-)
13:29 < esden> hi tomik 
13:30 < huebi> Bootable CD-Images are made
13:30 < tomik> hi esden, huebi, fake & co :)
13:30 < huebi> KDE 3.0.1 is integrated
13:30 < huebi> I want to have gnome and KDE in /opt
13:30 < tomik> at download.rocklinux.de ? 
13:31 < esden> hmm ... that is still a lot of work ... and gentoo released already >_< 
13:31 < esden> I hate it !!!
13:32 < tomik> whats wrong with gentoo?
13:32 < esden> tomik:  http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/17/0435227
13:32 < huebi> esden: 1.6 _must_ be stable. I do not want to have e release only for the "experienced developer".
13:32 < esden> huebi: I know that it MUST be stable ... but I can not wait ... >_<
13:33 < tomik> esden: chi :)
13:33 < huebi> What I really would like is OpenOffice in ROCK 1.6
13:33 < huebi> esden: There will be also further   stable prereleases.
13:33 < esden> huebi: ohh mann ...
13:33 < tomik> huebi: 1.5.15 is latest?
13:34 < esden> tomik: yes
13:34 < huebi> tomik: jo.
13:34 < tomik> ok
13:34 < huebi> brb. 
13:45 < huebi> re
13:45 < tomik> wb 
13:47 < esden> http://www.parksabers.com/ <-- cool I want one!
13:48 < huebi> I'm still on the task of debugging linux and linux-src and, as I know since yesterday, I have to debug the install-disks, too.
13:52 < huebi> If that all works 1.5.16 will be released.
14:01 < bluefire> esden: I don't believe them when they say the sabers are built for action. I'm sure I can break them in a decent hand to hand combat.
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14:04 < armijn> re
14:04 < esden> bluefire: sure ... I know ... I would not buy such a thing for fighting ... but to have it ;-)
14:04 < esden> hi armijn 
14:04 < armijn> hi
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14:05 < armijn> urgh, where's that 'view cvs' on www.cvs.rocklinux.de again?
14:05 < armijn> exact URL?
14:10 < huebi> armijn: mom
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14:10 < huebi> http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/
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14:12 < armijn> huebi: does 1.5.16 build correctly on x86?
14:14 < huebi> armijn: Not yet. E.g. Your boot kernel will replaced. But now it boots ;-)
14:14 < huebi> it=the build machine.
14:14 < armijn> I don't get it why rippi can't get his stuff built!
14:15 < armijn> I mean...
14:15 < huebi> armijn: linux-src still fails. so the generate asm does not work and fix the system.
14:15 < armijn> hmm
14:15 < huebi> will be fixed tonight if I'm very lucky.
14:16 < armijn> ok
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14:16 < armijn> that's weird
14:16 < armijn> why does it fail? and why doesn't he report that 1-linux-src fails??!
14:18 < huebi> armijn: It does not fail. It just does not work.
14:18 < armijn> heh
14:18 < armijn> so it fails ;)
14:18 < huebi> armijn: It make wrong things. ;-)
14:19 < huebi> without failing.
14:19 < armijn> ok, weird
14:19 < armijn> what goes wrong?
14:19 < esden> does anyone know where in the kernel sources is the header containing the framebuffer logo ?
14:21 < huebi> armijn: I'll find that out tonight.
14:21 < huebi> armijn: 1 thing I know is that /usr/src/linux*  will be erased and build up new in stage 1
14:22 < armijn> ehr
14:23 < armijn> wicked
14:25 < huebi> armijn: Not that bad. But it needs to be fixed.
14:26 < huebi> I now understand the scripts for the kernel packages.
14:26 < blindcoder> esden: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/linux_logo.h
14:27 < huebi> So it is not too much work to get it running
14:27 < huebi> As I can see it now.
14:27 < fake> blindcoder: there is a GIMP Plugin to write that .h file :)
14:27 < armijn> heheheh
14:27 < blindcoder> yeah. save as .c-source ;)
14:28 < armijn> heh
14:28 < huebi> I also put more comments in the scripts. I'm not the best in scripting and I don't want other people to find that all out again.
14:29 < armijn> heh, use my guide :)
14:29 < esden> blindcoder: danke
14:30 < armijn> yeah. need to switch buildings
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14:31 < blindcoder> esden: no. you won't do what I'm afraid you will do, will you?
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14:32 < esden> blindcoder: not yet .. but in some minutes perhups ;-)
14:32 < esden> blindcoder: someone asked for it on the lugin mailinglist
14:32 < blindcoder> esden: you know that I would have to kill you if you do so?
14:32 < esden> blindcoder: why ... rocklinux logo in the fb ... 
14:32 < praenti> hi
14:33 < esden> that is cool
14:33 < esden> hi brand
14:33 < blindcoder> esden: okay, send me the new linux_logo.h if you have it :D
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14:33 < esden> blindcoder: rofl
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14:34 < esden> I have to post a patch to clifford with new issues ... so that they get included
14:34 < snyke> hi
14:34 < esden> hi snyke 
14:34 < huebi> armijn: hi praenti 
14:34 < huebi> hi praenti 
14:34 < huebi> hi snyke 
14:35 < praenti> huebi: how can armijn say that? he already has left the channel ????
14:35 < praenti> *amkopfkratz*
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14:36 < huebi> armijn: praenti, that was me. 
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14:36 < huebi> *g*
14:36 < praenti> armijn at huebi's workplace/home?
14:37 < huebi> no
14:37 < huebi> praenti: I just wantet to say something to armijn
14:37 < praenti> huebi: ok#
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14:42 < th> huebi: is das kernel prob;lem schon geloest?
14:42 < praenti> th: was für ein kernel problem?
14:43 < huebi> th: teilweise. Der Kernel kann jetzt schon booten. Die Install-disks funktionieren aber noch nicht.
14:44 < huebi> th: Der alte kernel vom buildsystem wird geloescht und ein neuer installiert ;(
14:44 < huebi> Braucht noch ein bischen erm Feinschliff.
14:44 < huebi> Sieht aber schon ganz gut aus.
14:46 < praenti> huebi: wieso wird der alte kernel gelöscht?
14:47 < huebi> praenti: Weil ich Mist gebaut habe. Ich weiss jetzt aber, wo ich das wieder hinbiegen muss.
14:47 < praenti> huebi: stage 1 baut den kernel. im stage 5 wird dann rebuilded. dann passt das doch, oder
14:48 < praenti> achso, das soll nicht so sein
14:48 < praenti> #;-)
14:48 < huebi> Stage 3 auch noch mal;
14:48 < praenti> stimmt#
14:48 < praenti> ich hasse #-Taste
14:48 < huebi> praenti: Warum drueckst du immer <shift>-3
14:48 < huebi> ?
14:48 < huebi> hehe
14:49 < praenti> huebi: is ne deutsche tastatur. eine von den ekligen siemens. da wo mn auf die return drücken will und die # erwischt
14:50 < esden> praenti: nimm doch dvorak ;-)
14:50 < huebi> die kernel quellen muessen in Stage 1 nur unter /usr/src/linux vorhanden sein (aber die richtigen) und dann sollte es reichen, wenn der kernel in der chroot Umgebung gebaut wird.
14:51 < th> huebi: kann ich irgendwo schon die base-pkgs  laden?
14:51 < huebi> esden: Ist das richtig ?
14:51 < esden> huebi: hmm ... ja .. ich glaube mommentan ist es so
14:51 < huebi> th: Leider noch nicht. Aber egal wie das heute mit dem kernel ausdgeht, ich werde die morgen auf world ablegen.
14:52 < snyke> he praenti
14:52 < th> ok danke
14:52 < snyke> siemens sind geil
14:52 < snyke> vom druckpunkt
14:52 < praenti> huebi: bin zwar net esden. dürfte aber reichen, weil du ja nur die include für stage 2-5 bracuchst
14:52 < snyke> <-- auch siemens & compaq
14:52 < huebi> <- SGI. Alte UNIX-Tastaturen ;-)
14:52 < praenti> huebi: und der eigentliche build dann im build-system is ok
14:53 < huebi> praenti, esden: danke.
14:53 < snyke> :)
14:53 < praenti> huebi: und wenns net hinhaut dann ein downgrade ;-)
14:54 < huebi> Der build wird in stage 1 aus irgend einem Grund noch in /usr/src gemacht. Fuer sparc64 unbedingt notwendig, damit die includes garantiert richtig sind.
14:54 < huebi> linux in Stage 1 ist nicht noetig IMHO
14:55 < huebi> linux-src jedoch schon. EWegen der includes.
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14:57 < huebi> /usr/src/linux* muss dann gesichert werden bevor es durch die neuen Sourcen ersetzt wird.
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15:02 < praenti> igitt. mein rock wird grad suse verseucht :-(
15:04 < huebi> praenti: Wie machst du das?
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15:09 < tsa> re.
15:17 < esden> hi tsa 
15:17 < snyke> hi tsa
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15:27 < rolla> re
15:28 < huebi> hi tsa 
15:28 < huebi> hi rolla 
15:28 < huebi> ;-)
15:28 < tsa> hi esden, snyke, huebi
15:29 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh
15:29 < esden> heul ... 
15:29 < rolla> hallo
15:29 < esden> ich sehe uebelall gentoo
15:30 < esden> everywhere gentoo *run*
15:30 < esden> I am surrounded !!!
15:30 < esden> http://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/article-rpm.php
15:33 < esden> http://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/source.php
15:35 < esden> hmm ... on the second link you can see what we need to update/add to rock
15:37 < tsa> grrr....gentoo suxx.
15:37 < tsa> we need more PR.
15:37 < huebi> tsa: ACK
15:38 < esden> rxr: are you here ... ??? 
15:38 < huebi> and therefore KDE 3.0.1 + Gnome 1.4 and Open Office.
15:38 < tsa> source.php is a good pointer, anyway.
15:38 < esden> huebi: YES !!
15:38 < esden> tsa: sure
15:39 < tsa> if this is the way to go, we'll take.  let's do updates.
15:39 < tsa> but no openoffice, please.
15:39 < esden> this site is really up te date ...
15:39 < esden> respect
15:39 < tsa> building it takes too long.
15:39 < esden> who is maintaining it ?
15:39 < huebi> Then we have all graphikal orientated features
15:39 < tsa> although we might consider including the binary openoffice version.
15:39 < esden> huebi: we need lane os target too ...
15:40 < huebi> tsa: But OpenOffice work really fine. I think it's worth to be on the base CD
15:40 < huebi> esden: What is lane?
15:40 < tsa> huebi: source or binary?
15:40 < esden> huebi: i mean lain ... sorry
15:40 -!- clifford [~clifford@M082P020.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
15:40 < tsa> hi clifford
15:41 < huebi> tsa: as precompiled binary. And of course as package for selfrebuild.
15:41 < tsa> huebi: hm...that would be ok with me.
15:41 < huebi> esden: What is laine?
15:41 < esden> huebi: this is a character from an anime ... interpret this target as a fully graphical and gimmic overloaded rock target ...
15:41 < esden> re clifford 
15:41 < tsa> can anyone put "http://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/source.php" in the topic?
15:41 < huebi> *gg* esden 
15:41 < huebi> esden: "http://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/source.php" <- your turn ;-))
15:42 < esden> tsa: would be http://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/rock.php perhups better ?
15:42 < esden> ok ... I put it in the topic
15:42 < esden> the source.php
15:42 < tsa> thanks.
15:42 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ
15:43 < huebi> rock-ia32-1.5.16/info/logs/s-install-disks.err
15:43 < huebi> cp: omitting directory `/rock-linux/subdists/install-disks/root-disk/CVS'
15:43 < huebi> error found ;-))
15:43 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Don't feel sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux! (compare to others: Don't feel sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux!)
15:43 -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: Don't feel sexy enough? Use ROCK Linux! (compare to others: http://distrowatch.linuxforum.hu/source.php)
15:43 <@esden> now better
15:43 < tsa> perhaps some of us should join gentoo and accidentally delete their cvs repository ;-)
15:44 <@esden> tsa, huebi: is that ok ?
15:44 < tsa> yess!
15:44 < huebi> esden: yes.
15:44 < huebi> But joining gentoo to kill them is stupid. really stupid.
15:45 < tsa> hehe
15:45 <@esden> we will kill them some other way
15:45 < huebi> Gentoo is really good for many people
15:45 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden
15:45 < tsa> oh...and we need support for any kind of journaling fs ASAP.
15:45 < esden> tsa: yepp
15:45 < huebi> But the world does not know enough about ROCK Linux
15:45 < huebi> tsa: ACK
15:46 < huebi> I think about ROCK Linux that it is:
15:46 < huebi> 1. a very stable server distro
15:47 < huebi> 2. a very up to date desktop distro
15:47 < huebi> 3. the best distro build kit I ever saw.
15:47 < huebi> in that order.
15:48 < huebi> First ROCK _must_ be stable without any compromisses
15:48 < bluefire> huebi: Make a details comparison of ROCK and Gentoo and make the plusses of ROCK clear. Put it on the web.
15:49 < huebi> Then there are modern features needed for Windowsusers
15:49 < tsa> huebi: full ack. 
15:49 < bluefire> Do you really aim at Windows users? I doubt that.
15:50 < tsa> huebi: but looking at the source.php stuff, we're somewhat behind with a lot of packages.
15:50 < huebi> bluefire: I don't know enough about gentoo ;(  Does somebody want to find out what's under the hood of Gentoo?
15:50 < tsa> we don't have to use unstable beta stuff with crash guarantee, but we could at least upgrade to last stable.
15:50 * -> esden will have to finally install it somewhere ...
15:51 < bluefire> huebi: I've begun to install gentoo on my other laptop... but I don't know what's the magic underneath
15:51 < esden> bluefire: pearl scripts that have hardcoded package versions ...
15:51 < esden> and paths
15:52 < huebi> bluefire: Yes, I want to have Windows users switching to Linux. And they need some comfort, need to fell at home fast without the anoying crapp of windows.
15:52 < bluefire> I think I saw a lot of python stuff extracted from gentoo base
15:52 < esden> sorry i mean python not pearl
15:52 < bluefire> huebi: Switch to Linux... ok, but switch to a LFS distro? Not really.
15:52 < huebi> tsa: ACK! No unstable stuff.
15:53 < huebi> bluefire: ROCK Linux as distribution is a kool thing. 
15:53 < bluefire> When I installed gentoo I missed my beloved dselect and apt very much. What I don't like is that apt doesn't support client-side compiling.
15:53 < huebi> bluefire: ROCK can be a LFS distro but it must not.
15:53 < bluefire> huebi: no doubt. But windows users are per definition DAOs
15:54 < esden> I imagine what people love so much about gentoo .. the portage system ...
15:54 < tsa> Dau-at-Once? ;-)
15:54 < bluefire> DOA=Dümmster Anznehmender Operator
15:54 < bluefire> Oder DAA = Dümmster Anzunehmender Admin
15:54 < bluefire> Most of them don't even grasp the concept of file permissions
15:55 < tsa> ack.
15:55 < tsa> oh....another thing: we should take care of the apache-* mess.
15:56 < tsa> we definitely need a vanilla apache pkg.
15:56 < bluefire> huebi: Are you at the bbq at the weekend?
15:56 < tsa> perhaps another one with apache+php+mod_ssl.
15:56 < tsa> leave everything else up to the user.
15:57 < huebi> bluefire: There are many people who do not want to know to much about computers. And these people will ever be in the majority. So why shouldn't we give them a little more known GUI in a still very secure distro. And I don't mean Yast or linuxconf. I mean a powerfull GUI of their choice.
15:57 < huebi> bluefire: Yes, I will be there.
15:59 < esden> www.osnews.com: However, there was never before a distribution specifically targetting developers and speed, both at the same time. Enter Gentoo Linux, the fastest loading, fastest-operating Linux distribution to date.
15:59 < esden> argh argh argh
15:59 < bluefire> huebi: Well. KDE or Gnome. I don't know about KDE, but Gnome2 is a mess right now and Gnome1.4 is quite ok but supposedly overladen with features a novice user doesn't understand. Getting a novice user to a system is not only a matter of offering a gui, but of nicely intrgeating the rest of the distro with that gui.
15:59 < huebi> tsa: I made a lage build script for apache, mm, mod_ssl with many comments. Perhaps a very well documented LAMPP package would be a nice solution.
15:59 < tsa> huebi: ok.
16:00 < tsa> why is gentoo fastest-loading and -operating?
16:00 < esden> what the fuck ... ar all these news editors really stupid ???
16:00 < tsa> does anyone know what is being done for rock PR stuff?
16:00 < bluefire> huebi: Also a new user will want to have a Word, Excel, Browser (with flash and java and stuff) and especially games (no joke). But they also need to be able to use the box for something. 
16:01 < esden> tsa: cuz it is beeing optimized for your processor ... while compiling it ...
16:01 < bluefire> Many people play games (which don't run under Linux). Mandrake tries to capture them by including WineX
16:01 < esden> just like rock
16:01 < bluefire> Other do work... but need standard apps which just work
16:01 < bluefire> Include OpenOffice for a start
16:02 < huebi> bluefire: KDE is more like Windows than Gnome. I personally prefer KDE but I only need  something to hold all my terminals ;-)
16:02 < bluefire> Mail is also important
16:02 < huebi> bluefire: Till next weekend I'll teach my wife in mutt.
16:02 < bluefire> Evolution is the only decent mail tool i know
16:02 < tsa> hm....perhaps i should ask clifford to give me an own repository.
16:02 < bluefire> except for pine ;)
16:02 < tsa> pine sux.
16:03 < tsa> mutt rulez.
16:03 < tsa> ;)
16:03 < esden> tsa: ack
16:03 < bluefire> mutt has too many key bindings and to little menus
16:03 < bluefire> for my tast
16:03 < bluefire> e
16:03 < huebi> In the moment I use pine. But I want to try out mutt.
16:03 < tsa> menus? for what purpose?
16:03 < esden> tsa: order a respository ... why not ... if you have meny packages ...
16:03 < tsa> esden: currently not more than 10..
16:04 < esden> tsa: that should be enough
16:04 < tsa> esden: but a lot of maintainers just don't take care of their stuff on sourceforge.
16:04 < tsa> so i see my packages rotting with a lot of crap at sourceforge.
16:04 < bluefire> tsa: for sake of not having to read zillions of keybindings
16:05 < esden> read this : http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=937&page=all
16:05 < tsa> sourceforge will get dropped sooner or later, just because everything is outdated.
16:05 < tsa> ..essential stuff just doesn't belong there... (opera, apache stuff, ..)
16:05 < esden> this article is a good sight what gentoo looks like for a user
16:06 < tsa> plus the speed that comes when you compile the whole system with the i686 -O3 GCC (optimization) flags.
16:06 < tsa> ARGH.
16:07 < tsa> we're better, we're better than this!!!
16:07 < bluefire> tsa: -O4?
16:07 < tsa> no. arch-specific compiler settings.
16:07 < tsa> we've made benchmarks for this.
16:07 < huebi> bluefire: ACK Games are nessesary. I can see that.
16:08 < huebi> tsa: Yes we are better and we willshow it to the world!
16:09 < huebi> There have been some nice talks to intel on LT. We can be about 20% Faster than Genntoo.
16:09 < huebi> and are the first distro supplying the intel C compiler.
16:10 < huebi> The user must still get a licence from Intel, but the cc binary is in the distro
16:10 < esden> huebi: we RULE ... but we have to show the world that we rule ... 
16:10 < huebi> esden: ACK
16:10 < tsa> huebi: it doesn't help that we could be faster. we just have to be.
16:11 < huebi> tsa: ACK
16:11 < tsa> we need big graphs showing up on major sites showing everybody that gentoo is nothing but a slow piece of crap.
16:11 < huebi> And we need nicer and better stuctured Homepage.
16:11 < bluefire> huebi: and a snazzy tutorial 
16:11 < tsa> difficult task - we're not webdesigners.
16:12 < huebi> follow documentation and you get spanish docs ;(
16:12 < esden> tsa: so we need to get them ...
16:12 < esden> I will write polish doc's 
16:12 < tsa> biggest problems: PR and Docs!
16:12 < esden> ;-)
16:12 < bluefire> Write english docs... others are not of interest to the general majority
16:13 < esden> I know bluefire just kidding
16:13 < tsa> hehe.
16:13 < esden> I have written a BUILD-DIETLIBC doc ...
16:13 < esden> I hope that it will be usefull
16:14 < esden> and I started to create a uClibc target on my laptop
16:14 < tsa> aaah!
16:14 < tsa> My main gripe with the Portage system is that the packages that become available to the main repository are not well tested under Gentoo. I would be much happier if I knew for sure that these developers are asked and pass qualifications testing for their .ebuilds before they add them for public consumption.
16:14 < tsa> here we go...
16:15 < praenti> huebi: i ask my brother or another person that i know, who can made us a good hp design
16:15 < huebi> praenti: kool!
16:15 < esden> praenti: PLEEEEEEEASE do it !!!
16:15 < bluefire> Ah. Important: ability do downgrade a package if the new version is broken.
16:15 < huebi> f*ckin fast, colorfull IE and telnet compatible ;-))
16:16 < praenti> ok. i try what i can get
16:17 < tsa> cool. thanks.
16:17 < bluefire> praenti: must scale to the size of the browser
16:18 < huebi> bluefire: 4800x1200
16:18 < huebi> pixels *g*
16:18 < bluefire> huebi: 320x200
16:18 < bluefire> pixels ;)
16:18 < huebi> wapp!
16:18 < bluefire> handheld
16:18 < huebi> must work on the IBM Linux watch
16:19 < bluefire> right
16:19 < huebi> hehe
16:19 < bluefire> must boot on it ;)
16:19 < esden> boys you are illl ... 
16:19 < huebi> kool message of M$ IE: Booting ROCK Linux...
16:19 < bluefire> esden: scaling is important. though maybe not to 320x200, but to like 600x350
16:19 < huebi> 640x320
16:20 < bluefire> esden: in a usermode-linux hosted by a java-vm )
16:20 < bluefire> ;)
16:20 < huebi> 640x400
16:20 < bluefire> huebi: substract space for panels/taskbars etc
16:20 < esden> bluefire: we need someone to work on uml-target ...
16:20 < bluefire> uml?
16:20 < esden> usermode-linux
16:21 < esden> UserMode-Linux
16:21 < bluefire> ok
16:21 < blindcoder> HUEBI!!! *cry*
16:21 < tsa> we need lots of work to make a 2.0 release forst.
16:21 < tsa> first.
16:21 < blindcoder> why is the root-disk.img >1.4 MB???
16:21 * bluefire uses his spare time to further the cause of gtk-gnutella...
16:23 < huebi> blindcoder: broken. too much stuff on it.
16:23 < bluefire> blindcoder: can be if the disk is not formatted... so images can be up to 2MB, no?
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16:23 < blindcoder> is there anything deletable on it?
16:24 < huebi> blindcoder: Yes. And I have to fix the .conf to not include CVS directories.
16:24 < esden> intel crap ... on alpha you do not have to mess around with emulated disks ... >_<
16:25 < huebi> esden: On Intel, too
16:25 < huebi> hehe
16:25 < esden> aha ... how ?
16:25 < huebi> esden: You can use a hd-Image
16:25 < blindcoder> esden: urussai! I want to install ROCK on my new router, which is an 486 whos BIOS is unable of booting CDs
16:25 < huebi> blindcoder: It's on the way ;-)
16:26 * -> esden *die*
16:26 * -> esden smoking
16:26 < huebi> But floppy images are much better supported.
16:27 < lizard> how can I deinstall certain ROCK packages ?
16:27 < fake> pkg-remove
16:27 < lizard> aah
16:27 < huebi> lizard: do not uninstall sendmail and linux.
16:28 < lizard> linux hehe ;-)
16:28 < lizard> but why sendmail ?
16:28 < bluefire> huebi: for DAU (and me): need menu driven interface for installing packages
16:28 < huebi> bluefire: esden built one ;-)
16:28 < blindcoder> fake: can you get me the URL for the HP server we talked about?
16:28 < huebi> bluefire: just type Install then menu
16:29 < fake> blindcoder: my boss didn't mail me yet
16:29 < blindcoder> huebi: it's not even mountable via loop-back >_<
16:29 < blindcoder> fake: okay...
16:30 < rxr> re
16:36 < bluefire> My god... getting ROCK from the website is definitly not a trivial task. Not to speak of bootstrapping. Funny joke: to build ROCK you need ROCK... you can do without, but you need to figure out youself how to do it :(
16:37 < bluefire> Gentoo has a definit plus here. It's got a detailed step by step guide for bootstrapping
16:39 < esden> bluefire: It is very easy to bootstrap rock .. you need to get a binary iso ... install it ... ready ;-)
16:40 < esden> after that you can build you a new iso if you want to ...
16:40 < huebi> esden: This is NOT writen somewhere.
16:40 < blindcoder> bluefire: I was able to build ROCK on Debian almost without problems
16:41 < huebi> blindcoder: Write a HowTo plesae
16:41 < bluefire> blindcoder: It should be installable without having any software on the box before.
16:41 < esden> yes blindcoder prease 
16:41 < esden> bluefire: for that we need a iso to boot from and compile rock ...
16:42 < esden> or you get the binary iso as I said before
16:42 < rxr> we have the rescue image
16:42 < blindcoder> I didn't do it when I was at it... esden: remember me to do it when I reinstall my current FileServer... I'll build ROCK in it to do so, since it still has Debian on it until my new Router is up and running
16:42 < rxr> simply untar it - chroot - build rock
16:42 < esden> rxr: there are missing tools ...
16:42 < bluefire> It would be good if ROCK was installable similar to gentoo. Using a boot-cd and a chroot
16:43 < rxr> bluefire: why?
16:43 < rxr> the gentoo style compiling on the install box sucks
16:43 < bluefire> rxr: because you don't have to install a full system before optimizing?
16:43 < rxr> not even I want to do this for each box ... ?!?!?
16:43 < huebi> rxr: Write a Howto for that, please. I never knew what to do with rescue.
16:44 < rxr> huebi: Pjotr stats he has a guide ...
16:44 < huebi> rxr: Please get it from him.
16:44 < bluefire> rxr: It take some time. right. but that's the price to pay for a optimized system. People who don't like that still can go with the iso.
16:45 < bluefire> rxr: or with rsyncing from another box... ;) That's why I do most of the time for my own boxens
16:47 < rxr> huebi: it is on the ROCK site ...
16:47 < huebi> rxr: I don't search!
16:48 < bluefire> http://www.rocklinux.de/mirrors.html is an empty page
16:48 < huebi> rxr: You know where it is. So please give complete information like an URL.
16:48 < huebi> ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo/lilo-22.3.1.tar.gz <- new version
16:48 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/pjotr/guide/
16:48 < rxr> or so
16:49 < huebi> rxr: Thank you.
16:49 < rxr> this harsh comments was more a critic on the current guide open-ness ...
16:49 < huebi> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/pjotr/guide/ f*cked up .tex junk
16:49 < huebi> nobody can read that!
16:49 < bluefire> ROCK is not available on www.linuxiso.org
16:50 < huebi> should be converted or moved from the page.
16:50 < SMP> nobody's supposed to read TeX
16:50 < huebi> hmm. There are more things to do than I erver expected.
16:51 < bluefire> rxr: where are the iso images? And how to find them if the mirror pages is plain empty and it's not listed on the page of choice: linuxiso.org?
16:51 < rxr> bluefire: I'm not responsibile for the ROCK chaos - I only do dRock and 1.7 ...
16:51 < esden> bluefire: I wrote them twice .. but they are not responding ...
16:52 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/drock.html
16:52 < huebi> SMP: Have you some experiance with .tex?
16:52 < SMP> huebi: no
16:52 < rxr> huebi: latex *.tex
16:52 < rxr> or maybe his makefile will do the job ...
16:52 < hackbard> ehm, u will get nice ps or pdf text if u only run make
16:52 < SMP> just 'make' in that case
16:52 < hackbard> exactly
16:53 < huebi> .html is the choice I would say, everything else should be avoided for html brouwsers.
16:53 < rxr> p{df,s} is also ok for a sophistcated text layout ...
16:55 < huebi> rxr: Not for html browsers. I use lynx to test it. lynx can not read p{df,s}
16:56 < huebi> pdf need acrobat on windows and ps is unreadable on M$
16:57 < huebi> We should make sure that if somebody is interested in ROCK that the person gets as easy as possible _all_ information.
16:58 < bluefire> huebi: ghostscript exists also on windows
16:58 < huebi> .tex is something nasty on M$ Windows
16:58 < rxr> windows only admins will never be able to install ROCK or gentoo ...
16:58 < huebi> bluefire: Where must I click on? *gg*
16:58 < esden> fake ... are you here ?
16:59 < bluefire> huebi: the big blue E icon. and then enter "www.google.com" and search for "ghostview windows"?
16:59 < bluefire> Which remembers me off a scene:
16:59 < huebi> bluefire: Too complicated! I failed. I now can never use ROCK ;-(((
16:59 < bluefire> Support: Hi, what can I do for you?
16:59 < tsa> ,-----------,
16:59 < tsa> | Click me! |
16:59 < tsa> `-----------'
17:00 < tsa> ;-)
17:00 < bluefire> Client: I can't go to the interweb
17:00 < huebi> *ROFL*
17:00 < fake> esden> somking :Q
17:00 < bluefire> Support: Eh? Which browser are you using?
17:00 < bluefire> Client: What?
17:00 < bluefire> Support: Eh... on your screen... is there a big blue E or a big grey N in the right top corner?
17:01 < bluefire> Client: Big black nothing?
17:01 < huebi> rxr: But there are not only Windows admins who want change there OS.
17:01 < esden> fake: which windowmaker version do you use ?
17:01 < esden> 0.80.0 ?
17:01 < bluefire> Support: Oh... totally my fault.. you have to turn your computer ON!
17:01 < th> esden: /me is using 0.80.0
17:02 < esden> th: is it good ... or should I go for cvs ?
17:02 < th> esden: and i have problems with it
17:02 < esden> th: which kind of problems ? 
17:02 < th> esden: it seems to trouble with scroll-wheel or something imps2
17:03 < th> strange mouse behaviour
17:03 < esden> th: I have no wheel at my laptop
17:03 < th> so you prolly won't have any problem :)
17:04 < blindcoder> huebi: I currently have the root-disk right before `dd if=$tmpdev bs=1k count=4500 | gzip -9 > root-disk.img` here... what can I delete???
17:05 < esden> th: thanks ...
17:05 < huebi> blindcoder: Stuff you don't need  ;-) I really don't know it without a look at it.
17:05 < esden> th: If it works correctly on my laptop I will install it an my main machine .. there I have a wheel
17:06 < blindcoder> hmm okay...
17:06 < huebi> I leave in a few minutes.
17:07 < huebi> cu in about 2h, I think
17:07 < esden> cu huebi 
17:07 < huebi> blindcoder: I must fix the Copying of the CVS dirs, too
17:07 < huebi> ok
17:07 < huebi> cu
17:09 < fake> esden 0.8 IIRC
17:09 < esden> fake: thanks
17:39 < tsa> und wech.
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18:00 < fake> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/fake/mips-port/
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18:11 * fake drives home
18:11 < fake> *brummbrumm*
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18:19 < martin__> hi
18:37 < rxr> hi martin__ 
18:50 < martin__> rxr: kdevelop ... :-)
18:51 < rxr> yes - nice prog - what is whit it *g*
18:56 < martin__> you know ...
18:56 < rxr> hehe - jups 
18:57 < rxr> I'm just away buying some foods - after that I take a look
18:59 < martin__> root find the QT designer. But he don't create a Makefile, too. (my english ... wuerg)
19:02 < rxr> the qt designer is for clicking gui elemets together - not for creatig makefiles ...
19:02 * rxr away (finally)
19:08 < Freak> soll ich mal böse sein?
19:08 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux
19:08 < armijn> re
19:08 < Freak> wb
19:11 < armijn> quite hot
19:12 < snyke> yes :)
19:12 < snyke> too hot
19:13 < snyke> <--- freezer rulz
19:13 < armijn> yeah, well :(
19:13 < fake> re.
19:16 * fake chatting from Indy :)
19:16 < snyke> re fake
19:16 < armijn> fake: with linux?
19:17 < fake> armijn: sure. rock compiling on VT1 ;)
19:17 < fake> VC1
19:18 * fake getting cool b33r.
19:18 < armijn> I wish I could get a beer...
19:19 < fake> it's easy
19:19 < fake> b&d
19:19 < fake> buy and drink
19:19 < armijn> yeah, well, can't leave here right now...
19:20 < fake> excuses, excuses.
19:20 < fake> i'm curious how long glibc will take on this machine
19:20 < armijn> probably quite long
19:20 < armijn> an Indy?
19:21 < armijn> what is it? r5k? r4400? r4600?
19:21 < fake> i mean compared to the indigo2 which is r4400
19:21 < fake> this is a r4600
19:22 < armijn> ok
19:22 < fake> r4600 = better integer handling
19:23 < armijn> well, I've got better beer handling
19:23 < armijn> just no beer :(
19:23 < fake> me wants cpu upgrade kit to R5000 - Only 500$ :(
19:24 < armijn> hmm
19:24 < huebi> re
19:25 < armijn> http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/
19:26 < armijn> hehe
19:28 * rxr back
19:28 < fake> re rxr. you are fast.
19:29 < armijn> I think we should have porn-get in ROCK
19:29 < rxr> it is not a such a prob to get some food in the middle of Berlin ...
19:29 < fake> hunting?
19:31 < huebi> fake: Wildschweine! No joke.
19:31 < fake> tasty.
19:31 < fake> lots of male cows.
19:31 < fake> green male cows.
19:32 < armijn> green
19:32 < fake> j0.
19:33 < rolla> :)
19:33 < armijn> with fungus?
19:33 < armijn> cows gone bad?
19:33 < fake> fungus?
19:33 < armijn> you know, green stuff
19:33 < huebi> These wild pigs are a problem in the forests arround the city. If you go with a bag in your hand through the forestthe pigs only let you go on after you have emtied the bag ;-)
19:33 < armijn> that's in your fridge when you keep stuff too long
19:34 < fake> armijn: no, actuallz i was talking about people employed bu the goverment to be the executives of law and order.
19:34 < armijn> aah, pigs!
19:34 < armijn> no cows
19:34 < fake> we call them bulls
19:34 < huebi> armijn: Ahh. short before the meat stats to be alive again?
19:35 < huebi> cops
19:35 < fake> your helpful friend
19:38 * huebi bootin U30
19:39 * fake knows where huebi lives *mwahaha*
19:39 < huebi> fake: ?
19:40 < armijn> yeah, we tracked you!
19:40 < fake> ripclaw showed me :))
19:40 < armijn> at CCC we implanted a small device
19:40 < armijn> which emits radio signals
19:40 < armijn> so we can follow huebi everywhere
19:41 < fake> cat /dev/echelon | grep huebi
19:41 < armijn> huebi: we know what you're eating...
19:41 < armijn> we know everything
19:41 < huebi> armijn: the Question is: What am I eating?
19:41 < fake> not enough
19:42 < fake> unhealthy stuff ;)
19:42 * huebi having move Jolt ;-)
19:42 < huebi> s/v/r/
19:42 < armijn> huebi: Saumagen!
19:43 < armijn> the stuff that Helmut likes so much :)
19:43 < armijn> pig's stomach
19:43 < huebi> armijn: Forget that. But Birnes home town has a very good ice cafe
19:44 < armijn> Birnes? I was referring to Kohl :)
19:44 < fake> his head's shape equals a birne
19:45 < huebi> birne <- babelfish it ;-)
19:45 < huebi> ...more Jolt...
19:48 * rolla heads hurts
19:49 < fake> all of em' ?
19:49 < rolla> yup
19:49 < fake> eww
19:50 < armijn> dual head
19:50 * fake hands rolla some cool b33r.
19:50 < rolla> yeah that I need ;)
19:51 < armijn> huebi: a pear?
19:51 * fake testing challenge cable
19:51 < armijn> huebi: rather a large one then!
19:52 < huebi> armijn: Yes. A big fat large pear ;-)
19:57 < fake> rolla: *jumps around* it works!
19:57 < huebi> fake: ;-00
19:57 < huebi> ;-))
19:59 < fake> my flat is buggy
19:59 < rolla> buggy ?
19:59 < snyke> *g*
19:59 < fake> everytime i get new hardware it gets smaller and smaller.
19:59 < snyke> lol
20:02 < armijn> space leak
20:02 < armijn> send in a bug report
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20:04 < fake>  /home/bin/bugreport
20:04 < fake> Error: No pencil availible.
20:05 < fake> what is the minor/major device-nr of a pencil?
20:05 < rolla> 4/0
20:05 < fake> mknod c 4 0 /dev/pencil
20:05 < fake>  /home/bin/bugreport
20:06 < fake> Error> No Paper availible.
20:06 < fake> *argh* 
20:06 < rolla> ;)
20:06 < fake> ;)
20:07 < huebi> fake: This is a big bug. You should better order a printer with direct tree intake.
20:07 < huebi> hehe
20:08 < fake> eh?
20:08 < fake> train.. station...
20:08 < armijn> hehhe
20:08 < huebi> big printer.
20:08 < huebi> so big that it not only can handle paper.
20:08 < armijn> "tray 2 empty. Load new tree"
20:09 < huebi> also whole trees.
20:09 < huebi> like in front of my house.
20:09 < armijn> "warning: tree low"
20:09 < huebi> commercial printers have then a forest tray ;-)
20:13 < clifford> rxr: QMAKESPEC - what's that?
20:13 < fake> *ROFL* @huebi
20:14 < armijn> clifford: sounds like some Qt stuff
20:14 < clifford> it is qt stuff - I need to know what value it should have and if there is a reason why it's not set in /etc/profile.d/qt
20:15 < armijn> hell, I wouldn't know
20:16 < armijn> oh, some old germans here?
20:16 < armijn> that were young in the 80s?
20:16 < fake> how old is old?
20:16 -!- huebi is now known as opa
20:16 < armijn> and a bit into hardrock?
20:16 < opa> jo armijn 
20:16 < opa> ?
20:16 < armijn> hehe...
20:17 < armijn> huebi: you were young then and into hardrock?
20:17 * fake likes hardrock too
20:17 < fake> especially from the 80s
20:17 < opa> no . Only Ramstein and MegaHerz
20:17 < armijn> you guys remember "Doro"?
20:17 < opa> jo
20:17 < armijn> hehe, I saw her last saturday :)
20:17 -!- opa is now known as huebi
20:18 < huebi> armijn: And what happend?
20:18 < fake> o'course!
20:18 < armijn> huebi: nothing
20:18 < armijn> huebi: shel played and we applauded, that's it
20:18 < huebi> armijn: meet her again.
20:18 < fake> MegaHerz RULEZ!
20:18 < huebi> fake: ACK
20:18 < armijn> huebi: I will! in about 3 weeks in Belgium :))
20:18 < fake> a cool band from munich
20:18 < armijn> she will play at the Graspop Metal Meeting
20:18 < fake> one of the two band's i saw live ;)
20:19 < armijn> fake: you saw two bands live?
20:19 < huebi> armijn: rent a baby. Everytime a good thing to get in contact with a woman.
20:19 < armijn> huebi: I'm just in it for the music...
20:19 < fake> 0-800-RENT-A-BABY
20:19 < huebi> *LOOOOL*
20:19 < fake> armijn: yes, i'm a looser.
20:19 < armijn> fake: you mean, the two bands you saw live this month?
20:19 < armijn> or in your entire life?
20:20 < fake> armijn: no, in the last 20 years 
20:20 < armijn> urgh
20:20 < fake> i can't remember any before that.
20:20 < armijn> hehe...
20:20 < armijn> I go to about 25-30 concerts/festivals a year
20:20 < fake> and the other one was nasty.
20:20 < armijn> nasty?
20:20 < armijn> with naked girls, etc.?
20:22 < huebi> armijn: hehe
20:22 < fake> armijn: no, it was bad music.
20:23 < fake> if you count shows with naked ladies as concerts....
20:23 < fake> *starts counting*
20:23 < fake> j/k
20:24 < armijn> heh
20:26 < rxr> does anyone know whether an DSL modem can be connected via an switch or hub to the NIC ?
20:26 < huebi> rxr: jo, you can
20:26 < clifford> rxr: QMAKESPEC - what's that?
20:26 < huebi> only a very dump hub is possible.
20:26 < rxr> huebi: with both ? - I heard that it doesn't work with one oth them ... 
20:27 < huebi> but hubs have no arp hardware
20:27 < huebi> rxr: only hubs
20:27 * SMP didums
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20:27 < huebi> _dump_ hubs. without any inteligence.
20:27 < huebi> hi SMP ;-)
20:27 < netcrow> hi
20:28 < huebi> hi netcrow 
20:29 < clifford> rxr: still here?
20:29 < rxr> jups
20:29 < clifford> QMAKESPEC - what's that?
20:29 < rxr> mom
20:29 < rxr> clifford: /me was phoning ;-)
20:29 < rxr> clifford: where is this WMAKESPEC from ?
20:29 < rxr> er QMAKE...
20:29 < clifford> i see ..  :-)
20:30 < fake> clifford: the mips-port page is.... started.
20:30 < rxr> huebi: much thanks - I was noth sure which of both work - and I heared of some problems with one of them - so thanks for pointing out only dump jubs work ;-)=
20:30 < clifford> I get the following error when trying to configure mycc (a mysql frontend)
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20:30 < fake> people/fake/mips-port/
20:30 < clifford> checking "if Qt Version in /usr is >= 3.0.2"... yes
20:30 < clifford> configure: creating ./config.status
20:30 < clifford> config.status: creating MyCC.pro
20:30 < clifford> Creating Makefile with qmake
20:30 < clifford> QMAKESPEC has not been set, so configuration cannot be deduced.
20:30 < clifford> Error processing project file: MyCC.pro
20:30 < clifford> qmake failed, aborting
20:31 < rxr> clifford: hm - obviously some qmake fluff - but I never saw s.th. like this ...
20:31 < clifford> fake: I'm now linking the mips page ...
20:32 < huebi> clifford: can you convert the .tex files to html in Documentation?
20:32 < rxr> maybe the mycc has some syntax error in the qmakefile ?!?
20:33 < fake> clifford: thanks!
20:33 < armijn> fake: s/dontations/donations/
20:34 < clifford> fake: done.
20:34 < clifford> rxr: There is only a MyCC.pro file which is used by qmake ..
20:36 < fake> armijn: fixed.
20:36 < fake> thanks ;)(
20:36 < fake> -(
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20:39 < clifford> rxr: after setting QMAKESPEC=linux-g++ and copying the mkspecs/ from the qt sources to /usr/mkspecs it's working.
20:45 < clifford> rxr: so maybe we should patch qmake so its using something like /usr/share/qt/mkspecs/$QMAKESPEC instead of /usr/mkspecs/ and set $QMAKESPEC in /etc/profile/qt ?
20:49 < clifford> rxr: still here?
20:50 < clifford> however - i need to go now ...
20:50 < clifford> cu.
20:50 < armijn> heh, probably fighting is modem
20:50 < armijn> s/is/his/
20:50 * clifford is away: away.
20:53 < armijn> yeah, am off
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21:06 < the][owl> moin
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21:07 < fake> re bluefire 
21:07 < fake> hi the][owl !
21:07 < bluefire> hi again
21:14 * fake eating cup noodles
21:16 < fake> (with ESD-Protection, of course)
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21:24 < tomik> re
21:25 < fake> now let's see if this XFS patch from SGI is any good...
21:27 -!- raffi [~raffi@chello212186144154.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #rocklinux
21:27 < raffi> Hi.
21:28 < fake> gruezi!
21:28 < raffi> Ist es ok wenn man hier deutsch spricht?
21:39 < bluefire> raffi: wenns sein muss
21:39 < bluefire> raffi: aber Englisch is besser
21:40 < snyke> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
21:40 < snyke> esden?
21:40 < bluefire> raffi: Aber it ist in principle wurscht
21:45 < raffi> ok
21:47 < huebi> re
21:47 < fake> re huebi 
21:48 < huebi> hmm DLT Laufwerke moegen keine heissen Rechner ;(
21:49 < huebi> Ich habe mir dann mal ein Buch beim fsck genommen und ein bischen gelesen ;-)
21:50 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# ll /lost+found/ |wc -l
21:50 < huebi>     119
21:51 < huebi> eieieiei
21:52 < tomik> rip rip 
21:52 < rxr>  7912 rene      18   0 15276 2348  2300 R    63.5  0.4 427:14 xemacs
21:52 < rxr> Hm - this explains why my ROCK build is that slow ...
21:52 < huebi> hmm. I think a new installation could be a good thing ;-)
21:53 < huebi> rxr: What's up with xemacs?
21:53 < rxr> I have - don't know simply screwed up ... - but I have running a known to be broken versin running here - maybe I should run a Build-Pkg on my sysmtem ...
21:55 < rxr> s/I have -/I/ ;-)
21:57 < raffi> *lag*, bye
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22:06 < tsa> tag
22:06 < huebi> huhu tsa 
22:07 < tsa> huhu huebi
22:07 < tsa> gr...
22:07 * tsa versucht hier, nen windows-pc zu installieren..
22:08 < tsa> wo ist die globale einstellung "geh weg und lass mich in ruhe, ich darf das!"?
22:08 < huebi> tsa: Helpdesk anrufen und "kaputt. Geht nicht! Hilfe!" sagen...
22:08 < fake> tsa: format c: /autotest 
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22:11 < tsa> ..wird nen schreibmaschinenrechner fuer vatern zu hause..
22:11 < tsa> nur stress mit dem windows-zeug..
22:19 < huebi> re
22:19 < huebi> tsa: Warum kein Linux mit OpenOffice?
22:20 < huebi> guter fernwartbarkeit.
22:20 < huebi> kein Aerger mit Viren.
22:20 < fake> genau..... OpenOffice is ziemlich gut.
22:21 < huebi> fake: So'n Windowsfreak hat mir gesagt, alles was er machen will geht auch mit OO
22:21 < tsa> hm...nett.
22:21 < huebi> tsa: Zeig' doch mal deine Windoofslizens... hehe
22:21 < fake> huebi: ich werde in meiner arbeit gezwungen mir PowerPoint Folien druchzulesen, Excel-Dateien zu bearbeiten, meine Ausbildungsbeerichte in Word zu schreiben... all das kann OpenOffice 1a.
22:22 < tsa> hm...nett.
22:22 < huebi> fake: Noch besser als ich dachte ;-))
22:22 < tsa> wie stabil laeuft das so?
22:22 < huebi> tsa: und du sparst Dir den ganzen Windoof Areger.
22:23 < tsa> hehe...alleine das waer es schon wert ;)
22:23 < huebi> tsa: Ich habe es nur wenig benutzt. Halt als Schreibmaschine. Ging gut.
22:23 < tsa> hm...ok
22:23 < tsa> ich habs bisher nur installiert ;)
22:23 < fake> ja... hatte bis jetzt auch noch keine probleme.
22:23 < fake> allerdings die binary-distrib. selsbt gebaut hab ichs nicht.
22:24 < tsa> dito...dauert zu lange..
22:24 < huebi> tsa: Ich bringe meiner Frau auch ROCK Linux bei. Ich bin doch nicht bloed und vergeude meine Zeit mit MasoSoft.
22:26 < huebi> Wenn sie erst mal so alle Grundlagen zum bedienen hat, habe ich ueberhaupt nichts mehr mit irgend einer Betriebssystemk*cke zu tun.
22:26 < huebi> Linux funktioniert. Und ROCK Linux besondrs.
22:26 < huebi> gut
22:26 < tsa> jupp..
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22:26 < tsa> hi thalerim
22:26 < huebi> muh thalerim ;-))
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22:28 < thalerim> hi
22:29 < huebi> tsa: Deinen Vater an ROCK Linux zu gewoehnen ist einfacher, als es auf den ersten Blick aussieht.
22:29 < huebi> tsa: Traust Du dich? 
22:30 < fake> huebi predigt wieder ;)
22:30 < huebi> tsa: Ausserdem ist er bestimmt ganz schoen stolz, wenn er mitkriegt, was Du am ROCK Linux so alles geleistet hast
22:30 < huebi> fake: wer sonst? ;-))
22:31 < huebi> oder : was sonst?
22:31 < fake> Ma-Thil-Da!
22:31 < fake> Haaai!
22:31 < huebi> fake: lass sie doch endlich los.
22:31 < thalerim> huebi: hattest zeit was zu schreiben?
22:31 < fake> loslassen?
22:32 < huebi> thalerim: Nee, noch nicht.
22:32 < huebi> fake: jo
22:32 < thalerim> huebi: kommjet noch?
22:32 < thalerim> Freak: sag ma, wo ist eigentlich holarse hin??
22:32 < fake> #dummstell#
22:33 < Freak> thalerim: seh ich aus wie die Auskunft?
22:33 < huebi> fake: :P
22:33 < fake> gute frage., wie sieht die auskunft aus?
22:33 < thalerim> Freak: dann eben nicht
22:33 < Freak> jaja sei nich gleich eingeschnappt ;)
22:33 < Freak> fake: nicht wie ich, will ich hoffen!
22:34 < Freak> fake: obwohl sich dann diese ganzen fragen erklären würden...
22:34 < fake> fuer dich oder fuer die auskunft? *fg*
22:34 < Freak> hehe
22:35 < huebi> Nervt das Predigen?
22:35 < fake> nein, es ist wie balsam in meinen ohren.
22:36 < huebi> fake: wirklich?
22:37 < fake> jap.
22:37 < fake> ich kann aber nur fuer mich reden, versteht sich.
22:37 < fake> ich bin nur 23 von 23.
22:37 < huebi> Nervt das Predigen irgend jemanden hier?
22:37 < huebi> ;-)
22:38 < thalerim> fake: cooler wars wo noch matilda da war *fg+
22:38 < fake> ich weiss jetzt wo huebi den namen her hat.
22:38 < fake> bei ihm in der naehe is die mathildenhoehe ;)
22:38 < huebi> hehe
22:39 < fake> eigentlich waere das beste maskottchen fuer rock der steinbeisser Junior aus der Unendlichen Geschichte.
22:40 < fake> und Steinbeisser - Pap is BSD ;)
22:40 < thalerim> hm
22:41 < fake> es gibt doch auch steinboecke - warum keine steinkuehe?
22:42 < thalerim> ich bin steinbock :-9
22:42 < fake> ich bin steinbock mit dauerwelle.
22:42 < fake> (widder)
22:42 < thalerim> lol
22:42 < thalerim> darauf muss man erstmal kommen
22:43 < thalerim> huebi: tobrit@freebits.de -- falls du's fertig bekommst
22:47 < fake> darf hier jmd kicken?
22:49 < tsa> noe....zumindest ich nicht.
22:49 < fake> the][owl will gekickt werden....
22:49 < tsa> wegen?
22:50 < thalerim> the][owl: fühle dich geohrfeigt/gevierteilt/gekickt!
22:50 < fake> [owl(~mail-spam@B5bd4.pppool.de)] kicke mich doch bitte mal eben (the][owl)
22:50 < tsa> kick dich doch selber.
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22:52 < tsa> hm...
22:52 * fake summons the almighty SMP
22:52 < huebi> 600m von der Mathildenhoehe entfernt habe ich bis Januar gewohnt
22:52 < fake> aha... da schau her.
22:52 < fake> huebi du bist doch so ein kicker, oder?
22:53 < huebi> Irgend was laeuft hier instabil. schon wieder fsck
22:53 * thalerim kicks ass.
22:53 < huebi> fake: Kicken kann ich nicht ;>
22:53 < thalerim> huebi kann nur kratzen und piecksen :-)
22:54 < tsa> hm...mist.
22:54 < tsa> selber kicken klappt doch nicht.
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22:57 * fake wird sich alsdann zurueckziehen.
22:58 < huebi> fake: Gehab dich wohl...
22:58 < fake> habt dank!
22:59 < huebi> nochmal reboot. Fuer neuen kernel.
22:59 < tsa> n8 fake
22:59 < fake> *verbeug*
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22:59 < tsa> re clifford
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23:04 < huebi> so, der naechste test...
23:06 < huebi> ich bin ja mal gespannt, ob die kiste jetzt wieder stehen bleibt...
23:07 < huebi> hmm, sieht gut aus.
23:08 < huebi> Ich glaube dass die Speicherverwaltung nicht funktioniert hat.
23:08 < huebi> 4GB muss im Kernel bei mehr als 900MB aktiviert sein.
23:09 < huebi> Sonst bleibt der kernel wohl einfach unter hoher Last stehen.
23:10 < huebi> 11:10pm  up 9 min,  1 user,  load average: 81.70, 52.98, 21.89
23:11 < huebi> sieht alles gut aus *freu*
23:12 < huebi> Im default kernel sollte dann wohl 4GB aktiviert werden. Was sagt ihr dazu?
23:14 < huebi> Hallo? RFC ;-)
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23:34 < tsa> hehe
23:34 < tsa> hi lizard
23:34 < tsa> huebi: keine ahnung.
23:34 < lizard> hi tsa
23:36 < huebi> tsa: Na dann frage ich morgen mal auf der liste
23:40 < tsa> huebi: jo, mach das.
23:40 * tsa bastelt grad an ein paar updates..
23:40 < huebi> tsa: Krieg dein Vater jetzt immer noch Windows?
23:42 < huebi> reboot..
23:43 < tsa> hehe.....mal sehen. 
23:51 < huebi> re
23:52 < huebi> Was kann man eigendlich gegen unresolved symbols im kernel machen?
23:52 < rxr> fixed - oder auf linux-kernel reporten ...
23:53 < rxr> s/fixed/fixen/
23:53 < huebi> rxr: den output von depmod -a und die .config?
23:55 < rxr> so ungefaehr - vorher sollten wir vielleicht mal schauen ob der gebackportete kernel-configurator von ROCK tut ;-)
23:55 < rxr> aber bitte morgen - ich suche gleich mein Bett ;-)
23:56 < huebi> rxr: Ich auch. Danke fuer den Hinweis ;-))
23:56 < tsa> rxr: ich schicke heute noch oder morgen nen haufen patches...auch gegen deinen tree..
23:57 < huebi> alsa failed:
23:57 < huebi> loading cache ./config.cache within ltconfig
23:57 < huebi> ltconfig: you must specify a host type if you use `--no-verify'
23:57 < huebi> Try `ltconfig --help' for more information.
23:57 < huebi> configure: error: libtool configure failed
23:58 < huebi> Ist das schon gefixed?
23:59 < rxr> tsa: oh ich habe hier auch zich updates - und fixes darf ich zuerst ;-)
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