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00:00 < huebi> hi Mike1 
00:01 < huebi> Mike1: He wanted to come but I did not see him here.
00:02 < Mike1> Hi huebi 
00:02 < Mike1> thanks
00:04 * huebi fideling arround with the new linux-src package on sparc64...
00:04 < th> some experience with apache-2 in here?
00:05 < huebi> kool. The JavaStations have a serial connector for a terminal.
00:06 < Mike1> th sure
00:06 < Mike1> whats up?
00:07 < th> Mike1: just want some information about differences to 1.3
00:07 < th> Mike1: considering upgrade
00:08 < Mike1> oh i see
00:08 < Mike1> well..
00:09 < Mike1> many of the module ordering problems from 1.3 are gone in 2.0
00:10 < th> i read that just a minute ago
00:10 < Mike1> it has support for ipv6, due it gets ipv6 listening sockets by default
00:10 < th> i read that too.
00:10 < Mike1> which is actually cool
00:10 < th> yea it's cool but i'm not in need of ipv6
00:10 < Mike1> you read the paper of the new features
00:11 < th> yes i did
00:11 < Mike1> well thats pretty much it
00:11 < Mike1> i will be updating one of my servers to 2.0 on the weekend
00:12 < Mike1> what needs do you have th?
00:12 < th> mod_python, php4 stuff, ssl
00:12 < th> a lot virtual hosting
00:13 < Mike1> i do work for a virtual hosting company, so i suppose we both have sort of the same needs
00:27 < huebi> sed -e s/sparc_v[7,8]/sparc/ <- I want to replace sparc_v7 or sparc_v8 with sparc. Is that correct?
00:28 < tsa> huebi: yes.
00:28 < huebi> tsa: thank you ;-)
00:29 < fake> huebi: yes
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00:36 < huebi> I'm changing a little bit in sparc. sparc and sparc64 are now the architectures and sparc_v[7,8] are the CPUs in sparc. v9 is the CPU in sparc64
00:36 * fake cheatet niemals
00:36 < huebi> hi tomik 
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00:38 < huebi> re d3mian 
00:38 < d3mian> re
00:38 < huebi> fake: ?
00:38 < Mike1> Mr Vargas
00:38 < d3mian> i was trying to give cgi support in apache
00:39 < d3mian> it has to work without modifications, but didnt work fur me
00:39 < d3mian> DI k Mike1 
00:39 < d3mian> tuanis?
00:39 < Mike1> pura vida ;)
00:39 < d3mian> me alegra :-)
00:39 < tsa> *gaehn*
00:39 < fake> huebi: !
00:40 * tsa leaving
00:40 < tsa> cu all.
00:40 < Mike1> by tsa 
00:40 < d3mian> cu tsa 
00:40 < huebi> cu tsa 
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00:40 * Mike1 is leaving too
00:40 < Mike1> see u later
00:40 < huebi> cu Mike1 
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00:40 < tomik> hi huebi, all 
00:46 < d3mian> anyone with cgi working on apache? ive read all the doc and ive made of all but it cant be executed (even it is recognized as an executable file, like .pl .cgi and .sh)
00:49 < th> d3mian: you have a AddHandler for that filetype?
00:55 < d3mian> sure, file types are recognized, i added also .pl and .sh extensions, apache now knows when a file is executable or not, the prob is when executing that file
00:57 < th> so what's the probelm then? perhaps it would help if you pyt your config file online
00:59 < d3mian> the problem is that apache shows a message FORBIDDEN when accesing these types of files (executable files like cgi , sh and pl which i added to AddHandler)
00:59 < th> ExecCGI option is set?
01:00 < d3mian> yes, that's the pron, error.log says that i dunt have this Option Set, but i have it
01:01 < th> lemme see yout httpd.conf
01:01 < d3mian> in the /cg-bin <Directory> entry
01:04 < d3mian> well, dunt have now my httpd.conf here, i can send it u by mail?
01:04 < d3mian> (later)
01:04 < th> ack
01:04 < d3mian> th: mail addrs?
01:04 < th>  /whois
01:04 < d3mian> k
01:07 < d3mian> ok th , thanx , ill send it u in some hours
01:07 < d3mian> now ..
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01:14 < huebi> Jipiii.
01:14 < huebi> linux-src seams to build on sparc_v9
01:32 -!- al_ex [~capvarr@ppp94-014.salonica.access.acn.gr] has joined #rocklinux
01:33 < al_ex> hi all
01:33 < huebi> hi al_ex 
01:33 < al_ex> Is Rock Linux Good?
01:33 < al_ex> I'm coming now from Rock's Linux Web Site.
01:34 < al_ex> I have a Suse Linux installed in my computer at the moment
01:34 < al_ex> and i facing problems.....
01:35 < al_ex> Is anybody here available to help me?
01:35 < th> ack
01:35 < huebi> jo
01:35 < al_ex> ack
01:36 < al_ex> nak?
01:37 < al_ex> Ok, keep your knowledge for your selfs.
01:37 < d3m|away> umm
01:37 < th> aehm
01:37 < th> al_ex: sorry but if you have no questions you are on your own
01:38 < th> al_ex: and ack is not nak
01:38 < al_ex> i know.
01:38 < th> al_ex: so just shoot and we are thrilled to help you
01:39 < chris_b> al_ex: so what's the question?
01:46 < al_ex> wait a minute.
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01:51 < huebi> Komischer Typ....
01:51 < th> confused guy
01:51 < huebi> ;-)
01:51 < th> hehe
01:51 < th> huebi: hast du die neue fassung vom qt schonmal einem build-vorgang unterzogen?
01:52 < huebi> th: kann ich gleich mal machen
01:54 < huebi> linux-src now works in stage 1 on sparc64
01:54 < fake> ui... schnell alles auf ext3 umstellen - es faengt an zu gewittern *freu*
01:55 < huebi> == 01:55:46 =[1]=> Building base package 00-dirtree [1.5.16 1.5.16]. <- new build on sparc64
01:55 < th> wann gibts endlich quota fuer ext3? ;)
01:59 < huebi> th cronjob, der jede Stunde ueberprueft, ob zuviel Platz verbraucht ist und automatisch eine Abmahnun, spaeter Kuendigung verschickt. *gg*
02:00 < th> so sah meine erste quota implementation aus ;)
02:01 < fake> uh-oh
02:01 < fake> ich fahr wohl besser mal meine rechner runter
02:01 < huebi> hehe
02:01 < fake> keine ahnung wie verlaesslich die stromversorgung hier is
02:02 < huebi> hier gibt's endlich eine funktionierende USV
02:02 < fake> hm, ich dachte eher an spitzenspannungne
02:06 < huebi> fake: Da muessen schonrecht gut ausgetueftelte Filter in die Steckdosenleiste.
02:08 < fake> huebi: eben. und mich nix $$$.
02:09 < huebi> fake: Nicht teuer. Das kann jeder. Billig und gut! das ist wichtig.
02:09 < huebi> Am Sonntag kommt vielleicht ein Freund zum Grillfest, den kannst du dann ausquetschen ;-)
02:10 * huebi updating qt...
02:10 * fake going to bed.
02:10 < fake> bis morgen!
02:10 < huebi> cu fake 
02:10 < huebi> schlaf gut
02:15 < owl> bye
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02:22 < huebi> th: Ich glaube, das qt make -j32 vertraegt. dann muss nichts mehr parallelisiert werden
02:22 < th> huebi: jo es lief mit j durch
02:22 < th> huebi: bausts du das ein
02:24 < huebi> th: ist drinnen. $MAKE
02:25 < huebi> parse-config:export BUILD_CC="gcc" BUILD_CXX="g++" MAKE="make -j$ROCKCFG_MAKE_JOBS"
02:26 < huebi> == 02:25:19 =[1]=> Building base package 00-dirtree [1.5.16 1.5.16].
02:26 < huebi> build fuer i686
02:34 < th> ahja
02:34 < th> dachte ich mir doch fast ;)
02:36 < huebi> ich habe die VERSION jetzt auf 1.5.17 gesetzt. gueltig ist die aber erst als neuer branch tag
02:36 < huebi> mit neuem branch tag.
02:36 < huebi> ist also noch sehr unstabil
02:37 < huebi> == 02:36:32 =[1]=> Building base package 00-dirtree [1.5.17 1.5.17].
02:38 < huebi> XP1800+
02:38 < huebi> == 02:36:32 =[1]=> Building base package linux-src [2.4.18 1.5.17].
02:38 < huebi> == 02:37:11 06/20/02 =[1]=> Finished building package linux-src.
02:38 < huebi> Ultra 30
02:38 < huebi> == 01:55:48 =[1]=> Building base package linux-src [2.4.18 1.5.16].
02:38 < huebi> == 01:59:56 06/20/02 =[1]=> Finished building package linux-src.
02:39 < huebi> passt ganz gut zur gesamtcompilezeit. 6x schneller.
02:40 < huebi> th: hast du nur qt geaendert?
02:40 < th> nein
02:40 < th> apache-vanilla
02:40 < th> noch nicht doublechecked
02:41 < huebi> Ich habe erstmal nur qt cvs uped
02:43 < th> jo aber bau den index neu
02:43 < th> weil sonst is im index aussm cvs ja apache-vanilla falsch
02:43 < th> wenn apache-vanilla sauber compiliert ist es ein wichtiges update
02:44 < huebi> th ich war nur in base-config/qt und habe dort ein cvs up -dP gemacht.
02:44 < th> aehm stimmt. das is ja base... 
02:46 < huebi> gnome 1.4 nach /opt und KDE 3.01 nach /opt und die CD wird bald voll sein ;-)
02:46 < th> das sollte nicht unser erstrebenswertes ziel sein :-|
02:46 < huebi> Ich habe von bero von RH gestern alles fuer OO 1.0 bekommen.
02:47 < th> das hab ich irgendwo gelesen :)
02:47 < th> dann mac lieber das nach /opt
02:47 < th> s,mac,mach,
02:48 < huebi> hatte ich auch vor. KDE, Gnome und OO nach /opt
02:49 < th> wer brauch schon kde und gnome, wenn es ion gibt :)
02:49 < huebi> Das sind so dicke Dinger, die ich nicht im normalen Verzeichnisbaum haben moechte. /opt fuer optionale Software.
02:50 < th> ack
02:51 < huebi> ion, nie gehoehrt - KDE ist modern, OO funktioniert gut und beides hat ein sehr gutes image.
02:52 < SMP> Schrott
02:52 < huebi> Ich habe von Leuten gehoert, die sich nur wegen KDE 3.0.1 ein neues RH gekauft haben...
02:52 < SMP> 1HE Server mit zwei Intel EtherExpress onboard finde ich gut
02:52 < huebi> SMP: deshalb auch unter /opt
02:53 < SMP> wenn einer der Chips aber das 'Desktop' Modell ist, ist das Myll
02:53 < huebi> SMP: und dann noch eine Broadcom 1GBit ;-)
02:53 < huebi> aka 3C996B-T
02:54 < SMP> gibt's empfehlenswerte Dual-FastEther Karten mit EtherExpress 100+?
02:55 < th> ahh smp
02:56 < huebi> SMP: Keine Ahnung. Aber meistens sind multi port karten etwas tricky mit den Treibern. gerade unter linux.
02:56 < th> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root      1676077 Nov 29  2001 /opt/windowmaker/bin/wmaker
02:56 < th> das ist mein windowmanager
02:56 < SMP> huebi: kein Linux.
02:57 < SMP> $ ls -l `which $WINDOWMANAGER`
02:57 < SMP> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root      1636619 Sep 30  2001 /opt/windowmaker/bin/wmaker
02:57 < SMP> hmm ;>
02:57 < huebi> th: kann der xinerama?
02:57 < th> huebi: keine ahnung. ich bezweifle es. er ist er der berkeley vi unter dem vi-clones ;)
02:58 < huebi> 4800x1200x24 _muss_ sein.
02:58 < th> huebi: das ist viel, glaube ich
02:59 < huebi> glibc brauch vorraussichtlich 2h auf der U30
02:59 < huebi> th: keine Virtuellen Desktops mehr noetig ;>
03:00 < huebi> SMP: welches OS?
03:00 < SMP> J****
03:00 < SMP> ;-}
03:01 < th> oehm
03:01 < th> ich stelle gerade fest ich habe ja wmaker gepasted
03:01 < th> l `which ion`
03:01 < th> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       149260 May 16 20:47 /opt/ion/bin/ion
03:01 < th> das ist mein windowmanager
03:02 < huebi> SMP: J**** = JavaOS? *g*
03:03 < SMP> nein.
03:12 < huebi> So linux und linux-src sollte gefixed sein. die neuen Builds laufen. Mal sehen, was nach dem Aufstehen so alles funktioniert hat. die Sparc64 Loesung ist ein bischen haesslich. Jetzt brauch es fuer sparc64 noch die 64Bit glibc und dann sollte einem funktionierenden XFree86 nicht mehr so viel im Wege stehen. Naja, noch viel zu tun aber es gibt immer wieder deutlich spuerbare Erfolge. Macht mir doch ganz schoen viel Spass, wenn ich das mal so sagen darf.
03:15 < huebi> Unser SPARC Maintainer sollte sich mal transconnect und cygwin auf die Windowskiste auf der Arbeit schrauben. Dann kann er auch mal tagsueber was machen und muss nicht immer nur mails verschicken, die dann etwas weit von aktuellen Stand des Ports verfasst wurden ;>>
03:18 < th> hehe
03:19 < d3m|away> is there another way different than rsh and ssh to make rpc's to a host or commands, like `uname -a` or others?
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03:19 < d3mian> btw, re
03:20 < huebi> re d3mian 
03:24 < huebi> cu in 5h
03:24 < huebi> n8
03:24 < huebi> ;-)
03:24 < d3mian> cu huebi 
03:26 < th> YEA REGEN!
03:28 < d3mian> c00l, it works ! ;-)
03:28 < d3mian> http://parana.ic-itcr.ac.cr/~jonvargas/cgi-bin/stats.cgi
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03:44 * raz0raway is away: sleeping then working...be back tomorrow
03:59 < th> n8 folks
04:02 < d3mian> cu th 
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04:31 < FireHazard> can anyone tell me what sync on green means
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05:13 < lizard> FireHazard: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_SyncGrn.html
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05:13 < lizard> oh
05:26 < d3mian> re
05:26 < lizard> re d3mian :)
05:27 < d3mian> http://parana.ic-itcr.ac.cr/~jonvargas/cgi-bin/stats.cgi
05:27 < d3mian> lizard: dunt u sleep man?
05:27 < lizard> Sleep's a poor substitue for caffein [tm]
05:27 < lizard> +t
05:27 < d3mian> LOL
05:29 < d3mian> 14Wed Jun 19 21:29:54 CST 2002[217.4.132.17]pD9048411.dip.t-dialin.net.
05:29 < d3mian> nice
05:30 < lizard> hm?
05:31 < d3mian> i was testing some scripts i need to do for server checks and stats
05:32 < lizard> aah ;-)
05:33 < d3mian> what da u do johny?
05:33 < lizard> still school
05:33 < d3mian> really?
05:34 < lizard> We have vacation since yesterday.
05:35 < d3mian> hehe, ic
05:35 < d3mian> im @ Univ too
05:39 < lizard> kewl
05:40 < lizard> d3mian: What do you consider as the ultimate UNIX reference ?
05:40 < d3mian> dunt know what u mean :p
05:42 < lizard> Lets say if you were supposed to show someone a "real" UNIX, what would you take for "real" ?
05:43 < d3mian> never used UNIX
05:44 < d3mian> just SCO, a long time ago
05:44 < d3mian> but i dunt like Unix, nahh
05:47 < chrisb> d3mian: is the any readonly-cvs tree for rock available? like for the *bsd's
05:48 < d3mian> im not quite sure
05:49 < d3mian> but.. why da u need cvs?
05:51 < chrisb> hmm, cvs would be nice to quickly see the changes between to moments of time
05:51 < d3mian> ic
05:51 < chrisb> ok, i admit i could also use diff 
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07:42 < huebi_> moin
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07:45 < d3mian> hi huebi 
07:46 < huebi> hi d3mian 
07:47 < huebi> root@rock:/rock-linux # ls dist/var/adm/logs/*err
07:47 < huebi> dist/var/adm/logs/2-egcs64.err  dist/var/adm/logs/3-linux-src.err  dist/var/adm/logs/3-linux.err
07:47 < huebi> root@rock:/rock-linux # ls dist/var/adm/logs/* |wc -l 78
07:47 < huebi> look Good !
07:47 < huebi> +s
07:48 < d3mian> sure
07:48 < d3mian> what were u building?
07:48 < huebi> sparc64
07:49 < d3mian> ic, nice
07:49 < huebi> and i686:
07:49 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# ls dist/var/adm/logs/*err
07:49 < huebi> ls: dist/var/adm/logs/*err: No such file or directory
07:49 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# ls dist/var/adm/logs/* |wc -l
07:49 < huebi>     242
07:50 < d3mian> did u just erase those .errs?
07:51 < huebi> no, there are no errors ;-)))
07:51 < d3mian> and what about the first ones?
07:52 < huebi> the first ones are sparc64 specific. And egcs is needed for linux
07:53 < d3mian> root@rock != root@zeus , now i see
07:53 < huebi> th made a new qt package which compiles 4 different library sets instead of only 1 :
07:53 < huebi> == 04:55:48 =[3]=> Building base package qt [3.0.4
07:53 < huebi> == 06:28:15 06/20/02 =[3]=> Finished building package qt.
07:54 < d3mian> qt package now contains 4 diff libs?
07:55 < huebi> 93 mins! before it only needed 26 mins
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07:56 < d3mian> and why do that?, i mean the 4 libs sets in qt
07:56 < huebi> Jo. And rene compiled just one and linked the multithred once to the single thread ones.
07:57 < huebi> th wants to have them all. he added the 2 static lib sets
07:57 < d3mian> which is the location of the qtlibs now, $QTLIB ?
07:57 < huebi> now you can compile and link a KDE app staticaly
07:58 < d3mian> or is it set to the default of most distros.. /usr/lib?
07:58 < huebi> http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/
07:59 < huebi> http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/qt/qt.conf?rev=1.11&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
07:59 < huebi> http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/qt/qt.conf.diff?r1=text&tr1=1.10&r2=text&tr2=1.11&diff_format=h
08:00 < d3mian> Day changed to 20 Jun 2002
08:00 < huebi> d3mian: good morning ;-))
08:00 < d3mian> thanx ;-)
08:02 < huebi> mozilla now needs 40mins glibc 20min and X 30min
08:04 < d3mian> i never have seen cvs repository of rock, it is so cool ;)
08:07 < huebi> yes, th set up cvs and SMP set up this very nice version of viewcvs
08:09 < d3mian> these boys did a good work
08:10 < huebi> Indeed, they did. I'm very happy about that ;-)
08:10 < d3mian> i still exploring, it is very nice
08:10 < huebi> == 07:46:36 =[3]=> Building base package egcs64 [_19980921.1.orig 1.5.16].
08:11 < huebi> == 08:00:55 06/20/02 =[3]=> Finished building package egcs64.
08:11 < huebi> seams to be just a dependencie problem.
08:11 < d3mian> it seems, yes
08:13 < d3mian> and what was the prob in sparc64 in linux-src?
08:13 < d3mian> dist/var/adm/logs/3-linux-src.err
08:14 < huebi> d3mian: SMP found that very nice cvsview cgi. I used here at home cvsweb.cgi. The new one is much nicer.
08:14 < huebi> http://parana.ic-itcr.ac.cr/~jonvargas/cgi-bin/stats.cgi <- do you have that online somewhere?
08:14 < huebi> d3mian: kool thing
08:15 < huebi> make[1]: Entering directory `/rock-linux/src/egcs64-19980921.1/objdir/gcc'
08:15 < huebi> cd ../../gcc && autoheader
08:15 < huebi> /bin/sh: autoheader: No such file or directory
08:15 < huebi> make[1]: *** [../../gcc/cstamp-h.in] Error 1
08:15 < huebi> make[1]: Leaving directory `/rock-linux/src/egcs64-19980921.1/objdir/gcc'
08:15 < huebi> make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
08:15 < huebi> autoheader was nissing
08:15 < d3mian> nahh, i was just testing cgi's. it is too simple, just to manage entries and outs of users and process 
08:16 < huebi> d3mian: It's a shell script?
08:16 < d3mian> yes, just that, a .sh
08:16 < huebi> nice
08:17 * huebi is searching autoheader...
08:17 < huebi> root@rock:/rock-linux # grep -rl autoheader dist/var/adm/flists/*
08:17 < huebi> dist/var/adm/flists/autoconf
08:17 < huebi> == 07:38:13 =[3]=> Building base package mozilla [1.0 1.5.17].
08:17 < huebi> == 08:16:35 06/20/02 =[3]=> Finished building package mozilla.
08:18 < huebi> I really don't like it that mozilla does not compile with make -j32
08:29 < blindcoder> moin everyone
08:29 < d3mian> hi blindcoder 
08:31 < blindcoder> moin d3mian 
08:34 < blindcoder> hmm in 4-5 hours I can resume work the Build-Environment-cd
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08:35 < blindcoder> but now I'm taking a shower :)
08:35 < blindcoder> c ya later
08:41 < huebi> hi blindcoder 
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08:45 < huebi> moin lizard 
08:48 < lizard> moin huebi
08:48 < d3mian> hi johny
08:48 < lizard> ;->
08:50 < lizard> I feel like in the rain forest
08:50 < huebi> lizard: hehe
08:53 < huebi> off to work....
08:53 < huebi> bbl
08:53 < d3mian> cu huebi 
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08:58 < bluefire> moin
09:11 < lizard> morgen bluefire 
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09:18 < [anders]> re re
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09:25 < igel> moin
10:00 < blindcoder> rehi
10:02 < d3mian> re [anders] igel blindcoder 
10:03 < [anders]> mrrrrning... :)
10:07 < blindcoder> [anders]: you're wide awake, I see...
10:09 < huebi> re
10:09 < huebi> moin bluefire 
10:09 < huebi> moin [anders] 
10:09 < huebi> moin igel 
10:10 < blindcoder> re huebi 
10:11 < igel> moin huebi
10:11 < igel> moin d3mian
10:12 < igel> na da dacht ich lern ich hier mal was wenn ich so bei eurem fachgesimpel zuhoere und dann kommt gar nichts
10:12 < huebi> igel: echo "coffee" > /dev/mouth
10:12 < blindcoder> hmm nich um die uhrzeit...
10:13 < d3mian> .o0 umm, didnt knew that in germany coffee is also drank
10:14 < d3mian> .o0 i though just american pll
10:14 < huebi> d3mian: americans drink only uncaffeinated coffee. hehe
10:15 < blindcoder> hmm coffee... that reminds me of something...
10:15 < blindcoder> brb
10:16 < huebi> the coffee machine still needs some time :(
10:16 < lizard> d3mian: humans consist 70% of water, germans consist 70% of beer and 30% of coffee  ;)
10:16 < d3mian> haha, ur bad !, we drink pure coffe, we take the coffee from the plant, on vacations.. we use to go and take coffe from plantations
10:16 * d3mian win money doing that
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10:17 < huebi> moin clifford ;-)
10:17 < d3mian> that's why we are so alive most of the time ;)
10:17 < d3mian> hi clifford 
10:18 < blindcoder> so, the coffee machine's busy right now *hehe*
10:18 < clifford> hi.
10:18 < blindcoder> hi clifford 
10:18 < clifford> http://www.clifford.at/funpic/bush_dalai.jpg
10:18 < huebi> *lol*
10:19 < d3mian> -=[ .o0  LOL  0o. ]=-
10:23 < huebi> d3mian: Later this day I order some instant coffee. 1kg 100% pure caffeine! Really instant!
10:23 < d3mian> hehe, nice ;-)
10:26 * huebi is having a look for the sparc port...
10:29 < huebi> root@rock:/rock-linux # ls /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err
10:29 < huebi> /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/2-egcs64.err
10:29 < huebi> /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-bdb.err
10:29 < huebi> /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-linux-src.err
10:29 < huebi> /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-linux.err
10:30 < huebi> root@rock:/rock-linux # ls /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*log |wc -l
10:30 < huebi>     127
10:30 < huebi> now it looks _much_ better again
10:31 < d3mian> 23:49 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# ls dist/var/adm/logs/* |wc -l
10:31 < d3mian> 23:49 < huebi>     242
10:31 < huebi> d3mian: that's i686
10:31 < d3mian> ah ok
10:31 < blindcoder> in which package is libpcre?
10:32 < blindcoder> or... hmm... just a moment...
10:32 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# ll /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*log |wc -l
10:32 < huebi>     324
10:32 < huebi>  ** Finished (06/20/02 02:36:31 - 06/20/02 09:44:04) **
10:32 < d3mian> i see
10:32 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# ll /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err       
10:32 < huebi> ls: /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err: No such file or directory
10:33 < huebi> ( I think I should sleep a little bit more )
10:35 < huebi> the build time went up from 6h to 7h08. That's caused by the new qt package from th. It's build now 4 times for all libs
10:40 < huebi> single and multi threaded libs are build for static and dynamic linking
10:40 < fake> mornin
10:42 < fake> clifford: i thought you'd release another snaphsot yesterday?
10:42 < huebi> hi fake 
10:42 < fake> hi huebi !
10:42 < d3mian> mrng fake 
10:42 < fake> hi d3mian 
10:43 * fake punishing clifford
10:51 < fake> huebi: *reading backlog* 100% pure? never ;)
10:51 < blindcoder> moin fake
10:51 < fake> moin blindcoder - setzte grade MRTG auf...
10:52 < huebi> fake: 99% ?
10:52 < fake> huebi: where do you order it? Merck?
10:52 < fake> Fisher Scientific?
10:52 < huebi> fake: Jo!
10:52 < huebi> Merck. It's arround the corner
10:53 < fake> huebi: it's on the package. usually it's "technical", which means 95% or something
10:53 < blindcoder> fake: wofür?
10:53 < fake> blindcoder: meinen ruhta ;)
10:53 < blindcoder> schlimm schlimm...
10:53 < huebi> fake: No, Pure
10:53 < fake> huebi: then it should be somewhat around 99 % *g*
10:54 < fake> huebi: good stuff.
10:54 < fake> huebi: but be _extremely_ careful....
10:55 < fake> blindcoder: wieso schlimm?
10:55 < huebi> fake: Jo, I read the the security data sheat. 
10:55 < fake> huebi: you could bring me some Toluol along
10:55 < blindcoder> fake: einfach so ;)
10:56 < fake> i am short in TNT
10:56 < huebi> fake: Salpeter- und Schwefelsaeure auch?
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10:56 < fake> huebi: ne, hab ich noch
10:56 < fake> *gg*
10:56 < huebi> http://chemdat.merck.de/cat/web2.zoom_in?text=102584&screen=110&cid=-271126706&pg=1&s=caffeine&lang=4
10:57 * fake ist fisher scientific kunde
10:57 * huebi knows a few people working at Merck...
10:57 < fake> you. then you could even get morphium, right?
10:58 < huebi> fake: I don't think so. And I really don't like morphium.
11:00 < fake> huebi: it's in their stock
11:00 < huebi> fake: Yes. but it is known by too many people. 
11:01 < fake> so what?
11:01 < fake> =D
11:02 < huebi> Forget morphium, your doctor has very much better stuff for you. For nothing ;-)
11:03 < fake> huebi: the hard thing is to guess the illness you should have to get the right medicine;)
11:06 < huebi> fake: In the morning you are tired and need some stuff to get awake. In the evening you can't sleep so you need a tranquilizer. Combine that and you get the worst drugs ever avaliable. I knew one how did that. He died 6 years after he begun.
11:07 < huebi> http://www.clifford.at/funpic/11_10%5b1%5d.jpg <-*LOL*
11:08 < fake> tranquilizer? beta-blocker... 
11:08 < huebi> fake: jo
11:08 < fake> yeah, i know of a guy too... he was in psychatric treatment quite long, and they fed him with such stuff
11:09 < fake> now he's like in slow-motion
11:10 < huebi> fake: very sad such stories ;(
11:12 * d3mian almost finish the java project http://parana.ic-itcr.ac.cr/~jonvargas/snap2.jpg
11:15 < d3mian> i need to improve the look, it is not so surprising
11:15 < d3mian> now i have to sleep, cya
11:15 < huebi> cu d3mian 
11:15 < huebi> sleep well
11:15 < fake> n8 d3mian !
11:16 < d3mian> thnx, u2 02:33 < huebi> ( I think I should sleep a little bit more )
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11:27 < blindcoder> *ARGH* why is w*nd**s so crappy...
11:27 < huebi> blindcoder: because you have not payed for a support contract
11:27 < blindcoder> anyone got any ideas why a windows-apache with windows-php doesn't give POST and GET Variables to the PHP-Scripts?
11:27 < blindcoder> huebi: I never paid for my OS :)
11:28 < huebi> blindcoder: Me too. But I still does not remember where my M$ NT40 server license come from
11:29 < blindcoder> maybe it came with some hardware you bought :)
11:29 < fake> blindcoder: register_globals on?
11:29 < blindcoder> apache or php config?
11:29 < fake> blindcoder: since 4.2 you have to use $GLOBALS['name_of_variable']
11:29 < fake> or something
11:30 < fake> they changed it becus of secutiry issues
11:30 < blindcoder> *ARGH*
11:30 < blindcoder> that's why all the scripts don't work anymore >_<
11:30 < fake> blindcoder: you can give it the php.ini.kick IIRC
11:31 < fake> simply downgrading will do, either ;)
11:31 < blindcoder> I'd love to put a dRock box to the "Gesundheitstag" but "someone" said we have to use 2 M$ boxes... >_<
11:32 < blindcoder> that's too bad, because now "something" came up so I don't have time for bingo at Saturday *fg*
11:34 < fake> take a big fat black edding, write "M$" on the boxes - and install linux.
11:35 < blindcoder> *lol*
11:35 < blindcoder> fake: thanks for the advice, the problem is solved *hugs fake* *fg*
11:38 < fake> *rooooar*
11:39 < blindcoder> *MUAHAHA*
11:43 < blindcoder> next problem: *ARGH* ftp_fput only stores 181 Bytes...
11:43 * blindcoder feels really stupid today
11:46 < blindcoder> ah found it...
11:46 < blindcoder> ftp_close is now void... not bool
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12:01 < th_> re
12:03 < huebi> hi th
12:03 < th_> huebi: i read som ehighlights. 93 minutes is a lot :-/
12:04 * fake goes hunting
12:04 < huebi> th_: less than the expected 106 min
12:04 < huebi> fake, the bear hunter ;-))
12:04 < th_> huebi: that's right ;)
12:08 < th_> ouhm. i had to few hours of sleep
12:09 * huebi is moving kde from ext to base and upgrades that to 3.0.1
12:09 < huebi> th_: me too
12:09 < th_> a thrilling thunderstorm made me get up again and unplug the antenna of my wlan-server
12:10 < th_> ich sollte die antenne wirklich mal erden
12:12 < huebi> 03:24 < huebi> n8
12:12 < huebi> 07:42 < huebi_> moin
12:12 < huebi> really not enough sleep.
12:13 < th_> 03:26:57 < th> YEA REGEN!
12:13 < th_> da ging das gewitter los
12:13 < th_> 03:59:23 < th> n8 folks
12:13 < th_> da hab ichs mit schlafen versucht
12:13 < th_> gegen 0430 muss ich die antenne wohl rausgezogen haben
12:13 < huebi> But perhaps I can stop working next week ;-))
12:13 < th_> bald geht auch noch die pruefungszeit los :-/
12:14 < th_> muss 4 pruefungen oder so machen
12:14 < th_> also fuer 4 faecher das semester nachholen
12:16 < huebi> th_: urgs
12:16 < huebi>  th_ /nick th ?
12:16 < th_> huch
12:16 < th_> wassen passiert? 
12:16 < huebi> connection loss?
12:17 < th_> 04:21:12 -!- th_ [th@80.65.32.85] has joined #rocklinux
12:17 < th_> ein problem mit world?
12:17 < huebi> eher telekom ;>
12:17 < th_> wieso telekom?
12:18 < huebi> world ist mit einer telekomleitung angesclossen IIRC
12:18 < huebi> +h
12:19 < th_> ahh
12:19 < th_> ich reconnecte mal
12:19 < huebi> F*CK
12:19 < huebi> keine Daten auf dem Band!
12:20 < huebi> beide Images sind noch zuhause.
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12:22 < th> so
12:22 < th> dasnn stimmt die email-adresse auch wieder
12:22 < th> beginne ich den tag nun mit kuehlem club mate
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12:43 < fake> *boerp* aaah.
12:46 < blindcoder> fake: gehts dir jetzt besser?
12:47 < blindcoder> shit... i need ncurses in the build-environment...
12:47 < blindcoder> or... do I?
12:50 < fake> blindcoder: yep. besonders der mrtg tut ;)
12:50 < fake> werde ihn aber durch ein rrdtool-artiges teil ersetzen
12:51 < blindcoder> wieso dasß'
12:51 < blindcoder> ?
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12:53 < blindcoder> i need a real bash... that pdksh is really annoying...
12:56 < fake> blindcoder: nicer gfx ;)
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12:57 < th> blindcoder: mount a ramfs and untar a bash.tar.bz2
13:02 < blindcoder> th: that's almost what I did... and it looks like the first version of the ROCK Linux - Build-Environment - CD is ready for use :)
13:02 < th> blindcoder: cool
13:02 < th> blindcoder: what did you do? rootfs on cd?
13:02 < blindcoder> yes
13:02 < blindcoder> I took the root-kombo.img
13:03 < blindcoder> used it as a boot-sector on cd, created the complete rootfs (~300MB) and burnt everything on a CD
13:03 < th> blindcoder: huebi and me just talked about something like that
13:03 < blindcoder> then i burnt a rock-source-cd and took the sources from it...
13:03 < th> blindcoder: is that rootfs well suited for rescue operations?
13:04 < th> blindcoder: kernel support for almost all file-systems (perhaps via module)
13:04 < blindcoder> you still need about 5gig to compile everythgin but you don't need a complete ROCK to compile ROCK
13:04 < th> blindcoder: fsck tools for reiser and xfs
13:04 < blindcoder> well... currently it is only the complete Stage 1 of 1.5.15
13:04 < blindcoder> but that's (almost) enough to compile ROCK
13:05 < th> blindcoder: perhaps we could improve the rootfs to be a real usable rescue syste,
13:05 < blindcoder> sure thing!
13:05 < th> s/syste,/system/
13:05 < blindcoder> but for one and a halfs day work it's quite something to work with
13:05 < th> blindcoder: could you please upload the iso somewhere?
13:05 < th> blindcoder: i'd give it a try
13:06 < blindcoder> just a moment, I'll create an iso
13:06 < blindcoder> you have to get the sources from somewhere... preferrably a source-cd
13:07 < th> i do not want to try to build rock
13:07 < th> i will check the usability of that iso for rescue tasks
13:08 < blindcoder> okay, mkisofs is in progress
13:10 < th> grmpf thunderstorm was in town last night and my primary MX seems to be down
13:12 < [anders]> Hrumpfh... Should start to look at building a box for home me finks..
13:19 < blindcoder> th: is there a ftp i can upload to? or shall i dcc it?
13:19 < th> oehm
13:19 < th> do not dcc ;)
13:20 < th> you don't have access to download.rocklinux.de, do you?
13:20 < blindcoder> no
13:20 < th> how's your ocnnection?
13:21 < blindcoder> hmm it's quite good... at least here @bingo-ev.de
13:21 < th> ok
13:21 < th> can you make it wgettable?
13:30 < fake> chmod a+wget *.iso
13:31 < th> hehe
13:40 < blindcoder> *argh* I hate writing documentation...
13:40 < fake> then don't do it.
13:40 < huebi> blindcoder: <AOL> ME TOO! </AOL>
13:40 < huebi> fake: gibt sonst Aerger.
13:42 < huebi> "What's the hostname of this server?" - "cat /etc/HOSTNAME" - "Why is it called 'cat' with first name?" *TILT*
13:43 < th> hehe
13:43 < fake> huebi: `cat /etc/HOSTNAME` should do the job ;)
13:44 < blindcoder> fake: I have to do it, or do you want to find how to use a Build-Environment-CD all by yourself?
13:44 < blindcoder> fake: okay, you are capable of doing so, I know...
13:44 < huebi> ARGH *vomStuhlFall*
13:45 < fake> blindcoder: The Source is the Documentation (Linus Torvalds)
13:45 < blindcoder> fake: there is no source... that's the problem
13:45 < fake> blindcoder: no source? you spwaned it binary?
13:45 < huebi> zeitlich ungebundene Gedanken lesen... 
13:46 < huebi> GPL Gedanken...
13:46 < blindcoder> fake: up till now there is an incomplete scripts/Build-Build and a BECD-HowTo
13:46 < blindcoder> but I have a working(?) BE-CD here on apollo
13:46 < blindcoder> fake: you could do a vim /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 :)
13:47 < fake> blindcoder: vim is for weenies. cat /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 | more
13:48 < blindcoder> fake: I'm a l4m3r and proud of it ;)
13:50 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# ll misc/linux/
13:50 < huebi> -rw-rw-r--    1 root     root         1035 May 14 02:02 99-lame.patch
13:51 < blindcoder> yes, I have that patch in my kernel :)
13:51 < fake> AH2417
13:51 < fake> ;)
13:51 < huebi> blindcoder: brav!
13:51 < huebi> blindcoder: <AOL> ME TOO! </AOL>
13:51 < fake> nic-hdl:      AH2417-RIPE
13:52 < fake> mnt-by:       XLINK-MNT
13:52 < fake> eh eh eh
13:52 < huebi> fake: what does that mean?
13:53 < fake> address:      LAZARD ASSET MANAGEMENT DEUTSCHLAND
13:53 < fake> ?
13:53 < th> nic-hdl:      TEHA-RIPE
13:53 < th> mnt-by:       WRONLINE-MNT
13:53 < th> :)
13:53 < huebi> fake: or better: what are you doing?
13:53 < fake> person:       Andreas Huebner
13:53 < fake> address:      LAZARD ASSET MANAGEMENT DEUTSCHLAND
13:53 < fake> address:      Grünenburgweg 102
13:53 < fake> address:      D-60323 Frankfurt am Main
13:53 < fake> address:      Germany
13:53 < fake> phone:        +49 172 6564961
13:53 < fake> fax-no:       +49 69 5061390
13:53 < fake> nic-hdl:      AH2417-RIPE
13:53 < th> huebi: he is whoissing yyour handle
13:53 < fake> notify:       guardian@xlink.net
13:53 < fake> mnt-by:       XLINK-MNT
13:53 < fake> changed:      blunk@xlink.net 19981214
13:53 < fake> source:       RIPE
13:53 < fake> huebi: just killing time.
13:54 < th> fake: and you are DISREGARDING http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html!!!
13:54 < th> fake: this channel is logged and published. you missed to paste the copyright notice
13:54 < fake> th: oh, really? c'mon, judge me. i really want to see that trial XD
13:55 < fake>  Copyright (c)1992/1993/1994/1995/1996/1997/1998/1999/2000/2001/2002
13:55 < fake> by RIPE NCC
13:55 < fake> Restricted rights.
13:55 < fake> Except for agreed Internet operational purposes, no part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, recording, or otherwise, without prior permission of the RIPE NCC on behalf of the copyright holders. Any use of this material to target advertising or similar activities is explicitly forbidden and may be prosecuted.
13:55 < th> Except for agreed Internet operational purposes, no part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval
13:55 < th> system, or transmitted, in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, recording, or otherwise, without prior
13:55 < th> permission of the RIPE NCC on behalf of the copyright holders. Any use of this material to target advertising or
13:55 < th> similar activities is explicitly forbidden and may be prosecuted.
13:55 < th> ACK
13:55 < blindcoder> fake: I could give you the Build-Environment-CD-HowTo. then you have something useful to do ;)
13:55 < huebi> blindcoder: do it!
13:55 < fake> blindcoder: you mean search in the RIPE DB for every word of it?
13:55 < blindcoder> well... that wouldn't be that much work...
13:56 < fake> blindcoder: by hand.
13:56 < blindcoder> it's only *g* 9 point long...
13:56 < blindcoder> fake: can you access apollo via ssh?
13:57 < fake> blindcoder: /whois fake
13:58 < blindcoder> fake: ...
13:59 < fake> ,--
13:59 < blindcoder> fake: /home/crash/Build* is all you need
14:00 < blindcoder> fake: I hope you can make some sense out of it ;)
14:01 < blindcoder> fake: BUILD-Environment Build-Build and Build-CD-HowTo
14:02 < fake> no time ;)
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14:04 < blindcoder> fake: yes, it'll take you some time... about 3 hours on a 800 MHz P3-processor :)
14:04 < fake> blindcoder: as i had one :-/
14:06 < blindcoder> time for esden coming home...
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14:10 < blindcoder> that reminds me...
14:10 * blindcoder <--- idiot
14:11 < blindcoder> you can compile ROCK with the BECD... but there's no mkisofs or cdrecord... *argh*
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14:11 < fake> tadaaa
14:11 < fake> hi snueke
14:12 < snyke> hi fake
14:12 < snyke> hi rest :o)
14:13 < huebi> hi snyke 
14:14 < blindcoder> hi snyke 
14:14 < blindcoder> fake: tadaaa... what?
14:20 < snyke> hm.
14:20 < snyke> <-- happy
14:20 < snyke> no k-line against me any more
14:21 < snyke> http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/politik/0,1518,201324,00.html
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14:39 < armijn> re
14:39 < huebi> moin armijn 
14:39 < huebi> ;-))))))
14:40 < huebi> have a look on rock ;-)
14:40 < armijn> hi huebi
14:40 < armijn> I saw you started with 1,5,17
14:40 < armijn> ehr, 1.5.17 that is
14:40 < huebi> armijn: Yes. I started 1.5.17 in cvs. 
14:41 < huebi> 1.5.16 is out and then I start a new Version. But only in cvs.
14:41 < armijn> ok
14:41 < armijn> sent out the CDs already?
14:41 < huebi> When it's stable it gets a branchtag an will be released
14:42 < fake> he
14:42 < huebi> I wanted to send the CD today but I messed up something with the tape.
14:42 < huebi> I send it this evening.
14:42 < fake> XML is like getting Oil in 1-Litre TetraPacks
14:43 < armijn> heh
14:43 < armijn> huebi: is it 1.5.16 on rock building?
14:43 * armijn checking errors
14:43 < huebi> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root         8046 Jun 20 05:42 /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/2-egcs64.err
14:43 < huebi> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root          659 Jun 20 09:48 /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-bdb.err
14:43 < huebi> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root         1607 Jun 20 06:55 /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-linux-src.err
14:43 < huebi> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root         1514 Jun 20 07:01 /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-linux.err
14:43 < huebi> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        25766 Jun 20 11:13 /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-mtools.err
14:44 < huebi> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        40553 Jun 20 10:51 /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-sendmail.err
14:44 < armijn> which package installs "autoheader"?
14:44 < huebi> autoconf
14:44 < huebi> root@rock:~ # grep -rl autoheader /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/flists/*
14:44 < huebi> /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/flists/autoconf
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14:45 < huebi> huhu aszlig 
14:45 < aszlig> re
14:45 < huebi> root@rock:~ # ls /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*log |wc -l
14:45 < huebi>     160
14:45 < huebi> kool. allmost half of it.
14:46 < aszlig> arghs /me cant build rl!
14:46 < armijn> huebi: what happened to linux-src?
14:46 < aszlig> cause its summer :(
14:46 < armijn> huebi: it's still b0rk3n it seems
14:46 < armijn> I mean, where's the "generate-asm" stuff?
14:47 < huebi> root@rock:/rock-linux # less /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-linux-src.err
14:47 < huebi> make[1]: sparc64-linux-gcc: Command not found
14:47 < armijn> huebi: what happened to the generate-asm stuff? it's completely gone form linux-src!
14:47 < huebi> that's it
14:47 < huebi> armijn: no,
14:47 * armijn takes out a big lart
14:47 < huebi> it's in
14:48 < armijn> huebi: where?
14:48 < huebi> lart?
14:48 < armijn> LART: Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool
14:48 < armijn> usually a baseball bat with rusty nails in it
14:48 < aszlig> huebi: try dict
14:48 < huebi> base-config/linux/lx_config <- this is sourced by linux-src.conf _and_ linux.conf
14:49 < armijn> hmm
14:49 < huebi> *LOOOL*
14:49 < aszlig> hm?
14:49 < huebi> LART: Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool <- lol
14:50 < armijn> read more BOFH
14:50 < aszlig> huebi: yes, there are some stories 'bout that ;)
14:51 < armijn> I don't get this...
14:51 < armijn> the autoheader tool *is* installed
14:51 * huebi initiator of IGOR - Iteratives Ganzheitlich Orientiertes Resozialisierungsprogramm - Uses LART or similar.
14:51 < huebi> armijn: $PATH
14:51 < huebi> ?
14:51 < armijn> dunno
14:51 < armijn> it's in usr/bin
14:52 < armijn>  /rock-linux/dist/usr/bin/autoheader
14:52 < huebi> hmm
14:52 < armijn> was autoheader changed lately?
14:53 < armijn> from a shell script to a perl script?
14:53 < huebi> dunno
14:53 < armijn> did you move down perl?
14:53 < huebi> mom
14:53 < armijn> in the packages list?
14:54 < armijn> because that's the problem I think
14:54 < huebi> http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/autoconf/ <- update to 2.53
14:55 < armijn> well, autoheader is a perl script
14:56 < huebi> could be, that it changed with autoconf 2.53
14:57 < armijn> everything builds fine on x86?
14:57 < huebi> jo.
14:57 < huebi> everything. no exception
14:57 * huebi is still working.
14:57 < armijn> hmm
14:57 < armijn> on what?
14:57 < armijn> :)
14:58 < huebi> earning huge ammounts of money
14:58 < armijn> aah, money!
15:00 < armijn> argh, this is so irritating
15:00 < huebi> armijn: what "this" ?
15:00 < armijn> this autoheader thing
15:02 < armijn> do you think you can build "perl" a bit earlier?
15:02 < armijn> or move egcs64 down?
15:02 < armijn> build egcs64 later than perl5
15:02 < huebi> autoconf 2.52 1.5.13 <- #!/bin/sh
15:03 < armijn> ah, so they moved from /bin/sh to perl!
15:03 < armijn> that explains a lot
15:03 < huebi> * riclaw send mails ;-))
15:04 < huebi> I think we can compile earlier
15:04 < huebi> perl 
15:05 < armijn> well, actually it might be nicer to move egcs64 downwards
15:05 < armijn> because I think perl needs ncurses
15:06 < huebi> perl -> egcs64 -> linux-src -> linux
15:06 < huebi> but we need the header files very early
15:06 < armijn> does perl5 need ncurses?
15:06 < armijn> well, the header files has been taken care of, so..
15:07 < armijn> linux-src and linux are only built in stage 3 (inside the chroot) and egcs64 in stage 2
15:07 < armijn> I think moving egcs64 under perl5 is safer
15:07 < huebi> ok
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15:09 < armijn> that will solve the 2-egcs64.err, 3-linux*.err
15:09 < huebi> jo
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15:09 < huebi> 010.052 ltrace
15:09 < huebi> 010.055 perl5
15:09 < huebi> 010.056 egcs64
15:09 < huebi> 010.057 openssl
15:09 < huebi> I just changed it
15:10 < armijn> ok
15:10 < armijn> now you can restart the build :)
15:10 < huebi> it was 010.026
15:10 < armijn> or do you want to let this build finish first?
15:11 < huebi> hmm. I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE IT NOW. Better to change it now and see if it works. later then I make a complete rebuild.
15:12 < armijn> caps lock problems?
15:12 < huebi> Yes thick fingers
15:12 < armijn> so it seems :)
15:12 < huebi> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     591888384 Jun 20 08:24 rock-src-1.5.16.iso <- extra made for you
15:13 < huebi> I send it in the evening
15:13 < armijn> whoohoo!
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15:15 < huebi> armijn: This build is allmost 1.5.17. I left qt in the old fashion. It will need about 9h now on this box.
15:16 < huebi> tach term_emu 
15:16 < term_emu> hi all
15:16 < huebi> term_emu: How are you?
15:16 < armijn> who cares about qt :)
15:16 < huebi> ;-)
15:17 < rolla> re
15:17 < huebi> hi rolla ;-)
15:17 < rolla> hallo
15:17 < term_emu> huebi: acnt complain .]
15:17 < huebi> armijn: me ;-) your job is base
15:17 < huebi> term_emu: what do you mean?
15:18 < term_emu> :D
15:18 < armijn> huebi: all your base are belong to use!
15:18 < term_emu> i cant complain
15:18 < huebi> term_emu: axo ;-)
15:20 < huebi> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/ircstat/ <- hmm. I think I writ too much in this chan.
15:21 < armijn> huebi: can you also include the latest build-cvs-snap on the CD please?
15:21 < huebi> armijn: Yes. of course
15:21 < armijn> huebi: including the egcs64 fix you just made?
15:21 < armijn> http://www.nluug.nl/events/nj02/index.html
15:21 < armijn> http://www.nluug.nl/events/nj02/cfp-uk.html
15:21 < huebi> the fix will also be on the cd
15:21 < armijn> kewl
15:22 < huebi> * build restarted
15:22 < huebi> == 15:22:53 =[2]=> Building base package egcs64 [_19980921.1.orig 1.5.16].
15:22 < huebi> Pkg-Config: patches egcs64.desc egcs64.conf done.
15:22 < huebi> Building. Writing output to /var/adm/logs/2-egcs64.out
15:22 < armijn> make[1]: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
15:22 < armijn> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
15:22 < armijn> make[1]: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
15:22 < armijn> make: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
15:22 < armijn> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
15:22 < armijn> make: *** wait: No child processes.  Stop.
15:22 < armijn> that's a weird error
15:23 < armijn> ahm, bacuse you restarted the build
15:23 < armijn> duh
15:23 < armijn> huebi: you should do a complete rebuild as well soon...
15:23 < armijn> from scratch
15:24 < huebi> armijn: Of course. But first I want to see if the fix works.
15:24 < huebi> The U 30 is so annoying slow!
15:25 < armijn> nah
15:25 < huebi> My Athlon is 6 times faster.
15:26 < armijn> heh
15:26 < armijn> yeah, ah well
15:26 < huebi> But I like the rest much more than the PC crap
15:26 < armijn> yeah!
15:27 < huebi> Next week ripclaw will compile on a e15k StarCat
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15:27 < huebi> even The JavaStations are kooler than PC's
15:28 < armijn> on a StarCat? But that thing runs Solaris
15:29 < huebi> armijn: ROCK Linux will be installed on it.
15:29 < armijn> heh
15:30 < huebi> 115 Penguins on the screen while booting... KOOOOOL!
15:30 < huebi> A reason for a grafics card for that thing
15:30 < huebi> or the only one?
15:31 < armijn> hmm
15:31 < armijn> when are you running the silo setup script?
15:31 < armijn> when compiling?
15:31 < rolla> huebi you know they use a sparc 5 to boot a E10K and E15K right ?
15:32 < huebi> e10k is correct. a small workstation or sever for booting the domains.
15:32 < huebi> +r
15:33 < armijn> ehrm...huebi?
15:33 < armijn> huebi: do you use the kernel-sparc_v9.conf
15:33 < armijn> file?
15:34 < armijn> because PCI is not configured in there, which you really want for your machine!
15:35 < huebi> armijn: change it please
15:36 < armijn> I will...later...
15:36 < armijn> first I need to dig through tons of specifications
15:36 < huebi> I just changed arch-conf/sparc64 in the same way as arch-conf/ia32
15:36 < huebi> the intel stuff.
15:37 < huebi> tons of specifications <- for the Sparc CPUs?
15:38 < armijn> how did you change it?
15:38 < armijn> you mean you edited some stuff out?
15:39 < huebi> no, I changed it in that way that we can use more than v9 as CPU in the architecture sprc64
15:40 < armijn> ah, config.in!
15:40 < armijn> wow, three different spellins for "optimization"
15:40 < armijn> spellings that is
15:43 < huebi> lol
15:43 < huebi> armijn: please fix it ;-))
15:44 < armijn> *sigh*
15:44 < armijn> as soon as I get the CD, ok?
15:45 < huebi> armijn: should it be v7 v8 v9 or better sparc_v7...
15:45 < huebi> armijn: ACK
15:48 < huebi> I started the build again. too many old processes were runing
15:48 < armijn> heh
15:49 < armijn> you didn't clean up first...
15:49 < huebi> the old processes are  all killed now
15:50 < armijn> so, are you gonna clean up first?
15:50 < armijn> or not?
15:50 < huebi> hmm
15:51 < huebi> No, I let the build finish now. and tomorow morning I start it new on rock.
15:52 < armijn> and first run ./scripts/Cleanup :)
15:52 < huebi> And tonight I boot the U5 and start there also a new build.
15:52 < armijn> whoohoo!
15:52 < armijn> ah well, at least we fixed one error today
15:53 < huebi> armijn: I usually rm -rf dist src tars lib bu*
15:53 < rolla> you working on the sparc port ?
15:53 < armijn> rolla: no, sparc64
15:53 < huebi> ACK
15:53 < rolla> close enough
15:53 < armijn> different architecture
15:54 < huebi> I want to have a package for my JavaStations.
15:55 < huebi> sun4m, v8, sparc, MicroSparcIIep, 100MHz
15:55 < rolla> is there a stable release of the sparc64 port ?
15:55 < armijn> rolla: you got a sparc64?
15:55 < rolla> :)
15:55 < huebi> 64MB RAM, 8MB FLASH!
15:55 < rolla> I am a Solaris admin 
15:55 < rolla> so yes
15:55 < armijn> rolla: what kind of machine?
15:56 < armijn> there's no stable release yet
15:56 < armijn> but it's getting more and more stable every day
15:56 < rolla> E3500 , E250 , E450 , blade 1000, ultra 10 , ultra 60 , 280R
15:56 < armijn> if you can live without stuff like X and mtools for a while longer, then it's almost ready
15:57 < armijn> rolla: and on which of them do you want to run ROCK?
15:57 < huebi> I'm a ROCK Linux and Solaris admin. 2/3 of the SUN servers her were replaced by ROCK Linux PC servers in the last9 Months
15:57 < rolla> I was think about my ultra 60 
15:57 < huebi> rolla: MHZ?
15:58 < rolla> 450
15:58 < rolla> single 
15:58 < armijn> ultra60...as a workstation or as a server (as in, with or without X)
15:58 < rolla> with X hopefully
15:59 < rolla> it is running Solaris 9 right now
15:59 < armijn> well, we still have some problems with X now...
15:59 < armijn> I think
15:59 < armijn> for me it's not priority...
16:00 < rolla> ah 
16:00 < rolla> :)
16:00 < huebi> rolla: But for me it has some priority ;-)
16:00 < rolla> I see 
16:01 < huebi> ripclaw found out that glibc has to be compiled also for 64 bit
16:01 < armijn> huebi: well, I'm not quite sure of that
16:01 < huebi> then XFree86 should not only compile...
16:01 < armijn> I will try some stuff when woody has been released...
16:02 < huebi> armijn: On linuxtag he talked to people from the linux port section. Somebody told him that.
16:02 < armijn> ok
16:02 < armijn> so that will mean we have to tweak some stuff
16:03 < armijn> great.
16:03 < huebi> jep
16:03 < armijn> well, it's not that easy to do :(
16:03 < huebi> And rene did a complete staticl linked 64bit build. ;-)
16:04 < armijn> he did?
16:04 < huebi> jo
16:04 < armijn> ok...
16:04 < huebi> only the linker seems to be the problem
16:04 < armijn> the linke ris always a problem
16:17 < armijn> huebi: why do you recopy all the header files in linux? it's already done in linux-src
16:17 < huebi> mom
16:17 < armijn> just asking :)
16:17 < huebi> just having a look
16:18 < huebi> ;-)
16:18 < huebi> linux-src failed. so after that linux did work.
16:18 < huebi> of course.
16:18 < huebi> Idea!
16:18 < armijn> well, I don't think you need it right now...
16:19 < armijn> I think you can remove this line from base-config/linux/linux.conf
16:19 < armijn> . $base/base-config/linux/lx_config
16:19 < huebi> I want to let it be like that. so somebody not wanting to build linux-src can also build linux
16:20 < huebi> mom
16:20 < armijn> hmm, okay
16:22 < huebi> I just stoped the build again bdb failed
16:22 < armijn> yeah, some error in the patch file
16:23 < armijn> where did you get that patch?
16:24 < huebi> no, the bdb is 4.x not 3.x
16:24 < armijn> just downloaded it?
16:24 < huebi> I fix it.
16:24 < armijn> aah, so you need to remove the patch :)
16:25 < huebi> I try that.
16:26 < huebi> brb
16:30 < huebi> re
16:32 < rxr> re
16:33 < huebi> hi Rene ;-)
16:33 < rxr> yeah - /me back ;-)
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16:34 < huebi> hi bluefire 
16:36 < rxr> btw: I'll write an acricle for the Linux Magazin! I got an positive email from them yesterday!
16:38 < huebi> rolla: KOOL
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16:41 < owl> hi
16:41 < huebi> hi owl ;-)
16:42 < owl> ;)
17:15 < rolla> was ?
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17:37 < fake> shit... nochmal von vorne builden....
17:37 < fake> *arghl*
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18:42 < rolla> hmm I get asm/sigcontext.h is missing when I try to build the rock
18:43 < rolla> any idea's ?
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18:57 < rolla> this sucks
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19:01 < owl> re
19:01 < rolla> re
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19:44 * fake drives home
19:56 < lizard> You guys use iptables to secure your boxen or what ?
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20:06 < huebi> re
20:07 < esden> hi all
20:07 < huebi> I just repaired a FIAT Cinquecento. ;-))
20:07 < huebi> hi esden 
20:07 < huebi> broken generator.
20:11 < huebi> == 17:52:12 =[3]=> Building base package qt [3.0.4 1.5.16]. <- should be ready on sparc64 in about 30 min
20:21 * -> esden getting the 1.5.16 isos
20:25 < huebi> esden: All of them?
20:26 < esden> huebi: both of them ;-)
20:26 < esden> huebi: I need also a athlon version ...
20:27 < huebi> esden: In the moment Athlon is the same as i686 except the kernel.
20:27 < esden> urgh ... schidde ... :-(
20:27 < huebi> rxr: Huhu?
20:28 < huebi> rxr: Wie ist das mit den WRAPPER variablen?
20:29 < huebi> rxr: was muss ich machen um die default Konfiguration fuer gcc fuer ein Packet zu aendern?
20:29 < huebi> clifford: Kannst du mir vielleicht das sagen?
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20:34 < rolla> re
20:34 < rolla> I am trying to build 1.5.16 from the source that was downloaded and it is giving me an odd error
20:36 < esden> rolla: what kind of error ?
20:36 < rolla> do you want cut and paste ?
20:38 < rolla> Devlevel Error (2)
20:38 < rolla> and then a list of pacakages 
20:39 < rolla> are those the packages it cannot find ?
20:41 < huebi> rolla: make a ./scripts/Puzzle that will clean up much
20:42 < rolla> ah okay
20:43 < huebi> rolla: ./scripts/Download -base will download all sources to build base+opt. no extensions
20:44 < rolla> okay 
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20:45 < tom> does anoyne know a good erotic chat?
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20:45 < d3mian> re
20:45 < tom> ?
20:46 < d3mian> th: i could solve the cgi-apache prob, the prob was the apache package, it has some internal errors (2.0.36)
20:46 < th> d3mian: ok
20:46 < huebi> tom: grep -ri Fuck /usr/src/linux/*
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20:49 < rolla> hmm
20:50 < th> huebi: there are statistics somewhere about badwords in kernel source. comparison between 2.0, 2.2, 2.4 etc
20:50 < rolla> do I still do a ./scripts/Build-all
20:50 < huebi> ./scripts/Build-all COPY
20:50 < rolla> okay
20:50 < huebi> I use:
20:51 < huebi> ./scripts/Build-All zeus:/rock-orig
20:51 < rolla> I guess I will have to delete all that I have downloaded
20:51 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# ./scripts/Build-All zeus:/rock-orig
20:51 < huebi> rolla: why?
20:51 < rolla> cause it is still looking for things on build that Download did not 
20:51 < rolla>           bring down
20:52 < huebi> ?
20:53 < huebi> rolla: ./scripts/Download -list-missing
20:53 < rolla> ah
20:54 < rolla> so it will not build unless everything is down :0
20:55 < huebi> rolla: there are some dependencies not solved then.
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20:55 < huebi> hi Lorini 
20:55 < Lorini> hi
20:56 < rolla> I guess
20:56 < d3mian> re Lorini 
20:56 < Lorini> hi d3mian
20:57 < huebi> rolla: you will see.
20:57 < esden> huebi: your disk mutation is nearly completed
20:57 < huebi> esden: kool
20:57 < huebi> ;-))
20:57 < d3mian> nice, ive passed all the courses @ Uni ;-)
20:58 < huebi> d3mian: great. congratulations
20:58 < esden> your new disk will be: Seagate Cheetah 9.1GB with digital firmware on it ;-)
20:58 < d3mian> thnx
20:59 < huebi> esden: very nice ;-))
21:00 < esden> huebi: for 10 eur is the mutation completed
21:00 < rolla> /usr/include/bits/sigcontext.h:28: asm/sigcontext.h: No such file or directory
21:00 < esden> huebi: is that ok ?
21:00 < huebi> esden: of course, yes
21:00 < esden> huebi: kk ;-)
21:02 < huebi> rolla: in /usr/include/ must be a link asm -> ../src/linux/include/asm
21:03 < huebi> rolla: You need the kernel sourses there.
21:03 < huebi> rolla: uname -a
21:03 < huebi> ?
21:04 < rolla> oh
21:04 < huebi> (ROCK Linux documentation needs very much improvement)
21:05 < fake> *applauds*
21:06 < rolla> ja
21:06 < huebi> Documentation not leaving any questions unanswered.
21:07 < huebi> Everybody _not_ responding in the next 10 seconds is a volontier for that *g*
21:07 < fake> *respond*
21:07 < huebi> Jo, everybody want to do it ;-)
21:07 < fake> *phew* !
21:07 < huebi> LOL
21:08 < huebi> fake: Howto for a MIPS Port?
21:09 < fake> huebi: HOW_NOT_TO up to now.
21:10 < huebi> fake: Thats also ok ;-)
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21:10 < tsa> tag
21:10 < huebi> tsa: moin
21:10 < tsa> hi huebi
21:10 < Lorini> hi tsa
21:11 < tsa> hi Lorini
21:12 < rolla> what happened to the mirrors page on www.rocklinux.org ?
21:16 < snyke> esden?
21:17 < fake> heisskleber rules.
21:17 < snyke> kommt drauf an wo er hinkommt.
21:18 < fake> egal.
21:19 < snyke> wenn man ihn an die channeltür schmiert und dann keiner mehr reinkommt das is auch ned das wahre
21:22 < fake> snyke: kommt drauf an wer vor der tuer steht.
21:24 < fake> *argh*
21:26 < huebi> fake: o_O
21:27 < fake> nix.
21:29 * -> esden macht gleich aus #rocklinux einen invite only channel ;-)
21:29 < fake> esden?
21:29 < fake> why-o-why
21:29 < huebi> Mathilda wird dan aber bitte Ehrenmitglied ;-)))
21:30 < esden> fake: damit mathilda nicht mehr reinkommen kann ;-)
21:30 < fake> Mathilda: No such nick/channel
21:30 < huebi> ahhh! qt comes to an end.
21:30 < tsa> hehe
21:30 < tsa> Muuuh!
21:30 < fake> invite geht nich -_-
21:30 < huebi> mom
21:31 < esden> huebi: qt ???
21:31 < fake> esden: qt-dietlibx
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21:31 < fake> dietlibx
21:31 < fake> c
21:31 < fake> huebi wars langweilig
21:31 < huebi> esden: qt on sparc64
21:31 < fake> huebi: spielverderber *schmoll*
21:31 < esden> huebi: auuuuuaaaaa
21:32 < esden> fake: that hurts ....
21:32 < netcrow> hi
21:32 < huebi> linket to thin dietlibc
21:32 < netcrow> only a short view... 
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21:33 < Mathilda> muh
21:33 < fake> hi Mathilda !
21:33 < fake> *jumps around*
21:33 < Mathilda> hi fake
21:33 < fake> *gives Mathilda some weed*
21:33 < Mathilda> mjamm
21:33 < fake> err... hee! that was 5$/gramme !
21:34 < Mathilda> Muhu esden ;-))
21:34 < Mathilda> fake: MORE!
21:34 < Mathilda> fake: now!
21:34 < esden> ahh hi Mathilda 
21:34 < fake> Mathilda: ask huebi for caffeine. you had it all.
21:34 * -> esden gives Mathilda some Pitr cola ;-)
21:34 < huebi> *LOOOL*
21:35 < Mathilda> *jump* *jump* *JUMMMP*
21:35 < huebi> == 17:52:12 =[3]=> Building base package qt [3.0.4 1.5.16].
21:35 < fake> Aaaah! A Flying Cow! (AAFC)
21:35 < huebi> == 21:33:22 06/20/02 =[3]=> Finished building package qt.
21:35 < esden> Mathilda is giving only cafeinated milk right ?
21:36 < Mathilda> YEs. My milk wakes you up!
21:36 < fake> deadly milk.
21:36 < fake> every non-geek would die instantly.
21:36 < huebi> hehe
21:36 < fake> Mathilda's milk is the secret geek detection tool of the NSA.
21:37 < fake> So if you ever enter a MilkBar and everyone not sitting at a Notebook/PDA is dead, watch out for Agent Smith.
21:37 < rolla> esden : you read userfriendly ?
21:37 < esden> rolla: sure!!!! what a question ?
21:37 < rolla> sorry 
21:38 < esden> rolla: np ...
21:38 < snyke> esden!
21:38 < esden> rolla: uf something you have to read!
21:39 < esden> snyke: what ?
21:39 < rolla> yes
21:39 < fake> just like mt.
21:39 < rolla> ja
21:39 < huebi> root@rock:/rock-linux # ls dist/var/adm/logs/*log |wc -l
21:39 < huebi>     178
21:39 < fake> oh, rolla, i forgot. you may now see wether you machine is used online
21:39 < huebi> I want a 10GHz UltraSPARCX NOW!!
21:40 < rolla> :)
21:40 < fake> huebi: <AOL> ME TOO!</AOL>
21:40 < d3mian> sure, everyone wants one 
21:40 < esden> huebi: I have one standing around ... I can ship it to you ;-)
21:41 < huebi> esden: You have 4h time...
21:41 < fake> esden> oh you mean that old one with the little hitachi storage beheind it... what was it ? lousy 5000 TB. IIRC:
21:42 < huebi> fake: Not enough to unzip 42.zip. That needs 5.2 PB
21:42 < fake> (esden used M-Dimensional space to fit it into his room.)
21:42 < huebi> esden and his "pocket calculator"
21:42 < esden> fake: no the other one ... the one that has this funny SAN system hanging behind with 6exabyte
21:42 < fake> huebi: who the hell _zipped_ it??
21:42 < huebi> fake: HAL
21:43 < huebi> hehe
21:43 < fake> esden: ah, the SPACE ATTACHED STORAGE.
21:43 < huebi> LOL
21:43 < fake> Space- the final backup.
21:43 < tsa> ;-)
21:43 < fake> HAL is just lousy IBM rebuild.
21:43 < esden> fake: yepp ... it uses the moon to store the data in the quantum spins of it
21:44 < fake> H+1=I A+1=B L+1=M
21:45 < fake> esden: and all the other moons, too.
21:45 < huebi> fake: 816/
21:45 < huebi> 816?
21:45 < Mathilda> Muh
21:45 < fake> HAG?
21:46 < esden> fsck Mathilda 
21:46 < Mathilda> huebi: must be 815
21:46 < fake> fsck.cow Mathilda
21:46 < esden> no filesystem corruptions found ;-)
21:46 < fake> Mathilda: why?
21:47 < huebi> Often found on Harley Davidson.
21:47 < huebi> Hell's Angels Forever
21:47 < fake> genauso wie 88
21:47 < fake> *moo*
21:47 < huebi> But the Image of Harley changes more and more to yuppi crapp
21:48 < esden> huebi: habe ich einen account auf cvs.rock.de ???
21:48 < fake> rock.de? cool idea.
21:48 < tsa> domain:      rock.de
21:48 < tsa> descr:       BMG Entertainment GSA/EE
21:48 < tsa> descr:       Neumarkter Str. 28
21:48 < tsa> descr:       81673 Muenchen
21:48 < tsa> descr:       Germany
21:48 < huebi> drwxr-xr-x   2 esden    users        1024 May 26 15:57 esden
21:48 < tsa> too late..
21:49 < esden> huebi: hast du mein passwort uebernommen ?
21:49 * -> esden testet mal gleich den account ...
21:49 < Mathilda> nein das war SMP ;-) Muhh
21:50 < esden> ahh geht 
21:51 < esden> Mathilda: danke *bussigeb*
21:51 < Mathilda> gern geschehen
21:51 < fake> hhm... Mathilda?
21:52 < fake> Du bist doch die allwissende Kuh...
21:52 < fake> Eine Frage:
21:52 * -> esden baut heute noch die cheetah in die alpha rein
21:52 < Mathilda> ja fake ? hast do noch mehr Grass fuer mic *blinzel* *klimpoer*
21:52 < fake> Wo versteckt Maggi bei den Instantnudeln die auf der Verpackung versprochene "2te Portion" ??
21:52 * -> esden ist schon geil auf die io performance der platte ;-)
21:53 < fake> Und wo is die 2te Haelfte der ersten?
21:53 < huebi> LOL
21:53 * fake hat jetzt 2*18,2GB LVD-80 Platten in seinem ;)
21:54 < fake> eigentlich LVD-160, aber das kann der doofe Tekram nich 
21:54 < huebi> <AOL> ME TOO!</AOL>
21:54 < huebi> <AOL><b> ME TOO! <b></AOL> hehe
21:54 * -> esden hat hunger
21:55 < esden> Mathilda: komm mal her schnell *sfg*
21:55 * fake kocht sich ne halbe portion maggi instantnudeln
21:56 * huebi Geht ma bier Holen... GmbH
21:56 < Mathilda> Ja esden *kuschel*
21:56 < fake> was mich an diesem wunderwerk der technik noch so fasziniert ist, dass wenn man sie aufmacht und sie noch kalt sind riechen sie genauso wie warm - und wie in gasform am naechsten tag
21:56 < fake> huebi: bmem
21:56 < fake> huebi: b.
21:56 < huebi> fake: ?
21:57 < fake> bringmireinsmit\nbitte.
21:57 < huebi> ok
21:57 < huebi> LOL
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22:00 < esden> Mathilda: gut dass du da bist 
22:01 * -> esden zieht seine kettensaege raus und schneidet mathilda einen fetten kotlet vom arsch ab ... mhh dass wird ein guter blutiger stake werden 
22:01 * -> esden geht weg zum grill ;-)
22:04 < tsa> Mathilda grillen?
22:04 < fake> neee
22:04 < fake> if you eat mathilda now you'll get pretty high - caffeine + weed ;)
22:06 * -> esden hat hunger ... und deshalb ist es ihm wurscht @ fake 
22:06 < tsa> fake: so it sounds like a good idea - a steak that will make me fly and stay awake for a week..
22:07 < fake> Mononatriumglutamat - why plastic tastes like food .... or the other way round.
22:07 * tsa zueckt mal das grosse Fleischermesser..
22:08 < fake> *prust* das soll ein Messer sein?
22:08 < fake> naja.
22:09 * fake muss jetzt mal windows booten. jahaaa... weil BioWare Copr. es nicht fuer noetig hielt die Linux-Version von Neverwinter Nights mitzureleasen.
22:09 < fake> "...will be released later and downloadable."
22:09 < fake> "to run it, you will need the windows version.... *blah*"
22:10 < fake> brb
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22:11 < owl> re
22:12 < rolla> re
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22:18 < [anders]> re
22:23 < esden> fake: hast du schon neverwinter nights ?
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22:26 < esden> ahh good cappu ;-)
22:29 < huebi> re
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22:34 < huebi> Logitech PS/2 mice work on JavaStation
22:34 < huebi> ;-)
22:36 < fake> Aaargh
22:37 < fake> esden: ja *g*
22:37 < fake> www.sharereactor.com ist dein freund.
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22:43 < esden> fake: wir haben gedacht dass wir vielleicht zusammenlegen sollten fuer deine ps2
22:44 < esden> fake: stelle es irgendwo ins netz bitte
22:44 < fake> esden: 3 CDs ?
22:44 < fake> esden: edonkey ist dein freund. aber online spielen -> kaufen.
22:44 < esden> ach mennooo
22:45 < esden> ich will es erstmal testen
22:45 < esden> huebi: was sagst du ... ??? wegen dem zusammenlegen
22:45 < esden> wir brauchen 20 leute dann ist es 16 eur pro kopf
22:47 < fake> esden: warum ?
22:47 < fake> esden: uebrigens: testen kannst du es mit der lokalen campagne und im LAN halt. aber internet geht nicht
22:47 < fake> esden: 333 EUR (inklusive Final Fantasy X *g*)
22:48 < snyke> bye
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22:51 < fake> haaaa. gleich ist es soweit... man bin ich gepannt.... 3 Jahre warten...
22:51 < fake> *kopfhoereranstoepsel*
22:51 < tsa> hehe
22:52 < fake> wir brauchen einen rock-nwn-server
22:52 < huebi> gimp in 48 min *argl*
22:52 < fake> huebi: das is schnell...
22:53 < esden> wue heisst bankkonto auf english ?
22:53 < fake> *** These critical programs are missing or too old:gcc
22:53 < fake> >_<
22:53 < fake> account
22:54 < esden> danke
22:57 < tsa> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
22:57 < tsa> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
23:00 < huebi> tsa: get a new license key *g*
23:02 < tsa> huebi: sure..
23:03 < tsa> i have the first gcc that needs a license key..
23:05 < huebi> tsa: you can by one from me. No problem.
23:06 < tsa> hehe
23:07 < tsa> no, it's just clifford's build-pkg being broken..
23:09 < fake> *ARGH*
23:09 < fake> DAMN WINDOWS
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23:12 < tsa> hi clifford
23:12 -!- clifford [~clifford@62.46.2.90] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
23:12 < tsa> cu clifford
23:12 < tsa> GGNNNNNAAAA!
23:12 * tsa fuehlt sich verarscht.
23:12 < tsa> ;-)
23:13 < fake> keep cool.
23:15 < huebi> tsa: clifford hat alle 6h einen reconnect. Deshalb diese Ghostbesuche. Einfach ignorieren.
23:15 < huebi> ;-)
23:15 < tsa> huebi: ich weiss...aber es waere schoen, wenn er zwischendurch dann auch tatsaechlich mal da waere..
23:15 < tsa> naja, dann kriegt er das .err logfile eben per mail.
23:15 < rolla> ahh nothing like having your 3 hour old build die :(
23:16 < fake> man... grade waere die installation fertig gewesen / zacka.
23:16 < fake> freeze.
23:16 < fake> linux gebootet.... startx.... freze.
23:16 < tsa> hehe
23:16 < fake> jetzt erstmal memtest86 laufen lassen die nacht ueber
23:22 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50802F41.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:23 * fake haut sich ins bett - memtest86 is nich so spannend.
23:24 < esden> please read your mail
23:24 < fake> i can't read
23:24 < fake> :)
23:25 < esden> fake: huh ???
23:25 < chrisime> jojo
23:25 < esden> fake: so you have to learn reading ;-)
23:25 < esden> you will like what I wrote ;-)
23:25 < chrisime> oh gott!
23:26 < fake> esden: sorry i can't read what you write *whistle*
23:26 < fake> esden: i'll have a look.
23:26 < fake> good night everyone.
23:27 < esden> fake: goood ... ;-) I was near to come by and kill you ... in the last moment you could help you ;-)
23:27 < esden> n8 fake 
23:27 < esden> chrisime: what is wrong ???
23:28 < chrisime> esden: hab heut den linuxkernel mal angeguckt
23:28 < chrisime> wegen BS
23:28 < chrisime> uebungsblatt
23:29 < huebi> n8 fake 
23:29 < d3mian> cu fake 
23:30 < esden> huebi: mail read ?
23:31 < esden> ok ... I have to go home ... and get some sleep ... I hope I get positive feedback from you ;-)
23:32 < term_aweh> good night
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23:33 < huebi> esden: nee. was steht drin/
23:36 < esden> huebi: dass ich geld fuer fake's ps2 sammeln will
23:36 < esden> 20 leute a 16eur reichen um ihm so ein ding zu beschaffen
23:37 < esden> huebi: ???
23:39 < chrisime> tsts
23:40 < esden> chrisime: ???
23:40 < chrisime> was willstn damit
23:40 < esden> ich nichts
23:40 < esden> der fake will rock drauf portieren
23:41 < chrisime> tsts
23:41 < esden> denn es gibt noch keine freie linux distribution fuer die ps2 dass muss man aendern ... und dass wollen wir sein ... naemlich rock linux ;-)
23:42 < chrisime> aja
23:43 < esden> einleuchtend dass ich dem fake dieses spielzeug besorgen will oder ?
23:44 < esden> huebi: AUFWACHEN!!!
23:44 < chrisime> aja
23:44 < esden> wo ist mathilda ... ich muss sie auf huebi hetzen sonnst wacht er garnicht auf ....
23:45 < esden> mathilda fass den huebi !!!
23:46 * chrisime fasst sich an dem kopf
23:46 < esden> chrisime: ??? ich hetze nur eine ascii kuh auf den huebi 
23:47 * chrisime kratzt sich am kopf
23:47 < esden> chrisime: hast du floehe ?
23:49 < chrisime> sicher
23:49 < chrisime> *kratz*
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23:53 < esden> chrisime: lol ... 
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