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   The ROCK Linux project has been discontinued in 2010. Here are the old data for the historical record!

--- Log opened Fri Jun 21 00:00:38 2002
--- Day changed Fri Jun 21 2002
00:05 < huebi> ripclaw ist da...
00:06 < esden> huebi: gruesse ihn von mir
00:06 < esden> huebi: hast meine mail gelesen ????!!!!
00:06 < esden> zeige die gleich dem rippy
00:10 < huebi> Subject: Re: [rock-linux] MIPS config.in, gcc-options and one small bash thingy. <- die da?
00:11 < bluefire> huebi: Grüß ihn von mir auch
00:11 < huebi> Sony sitzt in Diezenbach um die ecke
00:11 < esden> jups @ huebi 
00:11 < esden> huebi: versuche mal die anzuhauen ob die eine spenden wuerden ...
00:13 < huebi> ROCK Linux auf PS2?
00:13 < huebi> MIPS?
00:13 < esden> ja mips
00:13 < huebi> Wieviel MHZ?
00:13 < esden> da steckt ein R4500 dirnnen
00:13 < esden> momment ich schaue mal nach
00:14 < esden> nee dass ist ein R5900
00:15 < esden> hmm ... die megahertz zahl steht nicht da
00:15 < esden> ich schaue mal im netz
00:17 < esden> CPU: 128-bit "Emotion Engine"
00:17 < esden> 300 MHz clock rate
00:17 < huebi> kool
00:18 < esden> 6.2 GigaFLOPS (Floating-point Operation Per Second)
00:18 < esden> 3.2 GBytes/second bus bandwidth
00:18 < esden> 66 million polygons/second peak rendering rate
00:18 < esden> https://www.google.de/search?q=cache:pkCHLIRWTYIC:www.gamersutopia.com/Specs/playstation2.htm+playstation2+specs&hl=de&ie=UTF8
00:19 < esden> https://www.techtv.com/extendedplay/videofeatures/story/0,24330,2225141,00.html
00:20 < esden> https://www.psx2central.com/misc/psx2info.htm
00:20 < esden> that should be enough
00:21 < huebi> nice thing
00:25 < esden> huebi: sure ... and fake is able to port to it I know this
00:25 < huebi> * installing ROCK Linux on netra x1
00:25 < esden> netra ???
00:27 < huebi> SUN UltraSPARC-II 500MHz
00:27 < huebi> 1HE
00:28 < esden> uiii ... shweeet ;-)
00:28 < esden> huebi: what do you think ... will you contribute to the ps2 for fake ?
00:29 < huebi> == 00:27:40 =[3]=> Building base package mozilla [1.0 1.5.16]. <- mindestens 5h ;-((((
00:29 < esden> scheisse ....
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00:54 < SMP> th?
00:54 < SMP> huebi?
01:00 < esden> hi SMP 
01:03 < tsa> hi SMP
01:04 < SMP> all sshd on world will be down for maint.
01:04 < SMP> right now.
01:04 < SMP> open sessions can continue
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01:23 < huebi_> re
01:25 < huebi_> alles dauer idler
01:26 < tsa> n8
01:26 < tsa> hehe
01:26 < tsa> cu huebi
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01:59 < huebi__>  
02:01 < lizard>  
02:02 < lizard> huebi__: Wie siehts mit CUPS in ROCK aus ?
02:03 < lizard> huebi__: Ich hab versucht, in 1.5.15 das CUPS Packet zu patchen, mit dem Makefile patch der beiliegt... geht nicht
02:06 < huebi__> lizard: Ich will cups in 1.5 aufnehmen, braucht aber noch zeit. kommt dann in base/opt
02:07 -!- huebi__ is now known as huebi_
02:08 < huebi_> ist viel gebastel, da cups 1.1.15 direct ghostscript brauch. Mal sehen, wie das gehet
02:09 < lizard> das ist super!
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04:02 < d3mian> cu
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05:49 < uninvited> *yawn*
05:49 < uninvited> hello
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07:12 < fake> morning
07:12 < praenti> moin
07:13 < fake> wird der benutze compiler schon in stage 0/1 enforced?
07:13 < fake> ich habe hier gcc-3 und gcc2 installiert
07:13 < fake> wieso entscheidet sich glibc fuer den 3er?
07:14 < fake> hm... jetzt scheint es zu gehen...
07:15 * fake is off for school *oerks*
07:32 < rxr> 1re
07:57 < huebi_> moin
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08:34 < th_> what the heck...
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08:58 < [anders]> re
09:00 -!- freed [~bofh@pD9501702.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
09:00 < freed> guten morgen
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10:11 < uninvited> hello
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10:35 < th_> moin nochmal
10:35 < th_> SMP: schon wach?
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11:09 < huebi__> moin
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11:13 < tsa> moin.
11:14 < tsa> moin.
11:14 < tsa> hm...
11:14 < tsa> irgendwer wach?
11:14 < tsa> ..der auch noch .plan von 3com-switches hat?
11:25 < huebi__> jo
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11:27 < tsa> huebi: fein. weisst du, wie ich das ding auf factory-default resetten kann?
11:27 < tsa> (holyolli hat das passwort zermokelt, und einschicken dauert zu lange..)
11:28 < huebi__> mom
11:30 < huebi__> tsa: Exacte, genaue, vollstaendige, einen Perfektionisten aufreichende Typenbezeichnung? *g*
11:31 < tsa> 3c16985
11:32 < huebi__> tsa: sonst noch mehr?
11:32 < tsa> ist nen 3300 xm 24port.
11:32 < tsa> sollte eigentlich reichen.
11:32 < huebi__> mom
11:40 < tsa> dummdidumm...
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11:45 < owl> hi
11:46 < huebi__> hi owl 
11:46 < huebi__> tsa: Das Geraet hat keine Pufferbaterie mehr. ;(
11:47 < huebi__> tsa: Also hilft nur ein universal Passwort oder einschicken.
11:47 < tsa> hm...ok
11:47 < tsa> danke.
11:47 < huebi__> tsa: Der Netzwerkmeister hat hier mal kurz einen auseinandergenommen
11:47 < tsa> ah...
11:48 < huebi__> Factory defaults geht, so sagt er, nur wenn man eingelogt ist.
11:48 < tsa> hm...ok, soweit waren wir auch schon..
11:49 < huebi__> bei aelteren gibt es einen Resettaster an der rueckseite.
11:49 < huebi__> oder halt eine Baterie im Inneren.
12:04 < owl> bye
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12:09 < th_> re
12:09 < huebi__> hi th
12:09 < th_> huebi__: schon infos was mit world is?
12:10 < huebi__> SMP schlaeft wohl noch.
12:10 < th_> schade
12:10 < th_> aber lassen wir ihn lieber schlafen ;)
12:10 < th_> ich weiss wie schoen das ist :)
12:10 < th_> zum glueck ist wohl nur world betroffen. die anderen rechner dort sind aktiv
12:10 < th_> (und erreichbar)
12:11 < huebi__> Ich habe gestern aber noch den kompletten cvs-tree auf rocklinux.dyndns.org gesichert. Den werde ich heute abend dann mal reaktivieren.
12:11 < th_> aber nur wenn world bis dahin nicht wieder aktiv ist, nehmeich an?
12:11 < huebi__> jo, nur wenn world weiterhin nicht wieder reanimierbar ist.
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12:12 < th_> aber ich gehe sehr stark davon aus, dass world wieder ok ist, sobald smp wach ist +x
12:12 < bluefire> Moin
12:12 < huebi__> SMP macht da garantiert alles, was in seiner Macht steht.
12:12 < huebi__> hi bluefire 
12:13 < th_> huebi__: oder ziehen die schon um?
12:13 < huebi__> is halt bloed. ich habe hier noch 2 ISOs. Die wollte ich jetzt eigendlich rueberkopieren.
12:13 < th_> kannst sie ja erstmal auf meinen hidden schieben...
12:13 < huebi__> th_: So ein Umzug geht nicht so schnell.
12:13 < th_> der ist ja auch mit 34MBit online
12:14 < th_> huebi__: also ziehen sie schon um?
12:14 < huebi__> th weiss ich nicht. Ist aber sehr unwahrscheinlich.
12:14 < th_> ahh ok
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12:19 < praenti> re
12:19 < huebi__> hi praenti 
12:22 < praenti> huebi__: ??? was soll mit world sein. das https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/ liegt doch auch drauf und das kann ich ansurfen
12:22 < huebi__> praenti: ssh und damit cvs geht nicht.
12:22 < praenti> axo
12:23 < praenti> stimmt. das sieht verdammt nach nicht laufenden ssh-daemon aus oder der eintrag is versehentlich aus der /etc/services rausgehüpft
12:24 < praenti> habt ihr meine mail gelesen?
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12:26 < term_emu> hi
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12:29 < armijn> re
12:29 < armijn> huebi?
12:29 < huebi__> hi armijn 
12:29 < huebi__> ;-)
12:29 < armijn> huebi: I was just thinking...
12:29 < armijn> does gcc need autoheader to compile?
12:29 < huebi__> I DON'T KNOW
12:29 < armijn> hmm
12:30 < praenti> hi armijn 
12:30 < armijn> because if it does need it, we have to move perl5 to stage 1
12:30 < armijn> hi praenti
12:30 < huebi__> armijn: it should not.
12:30 < armijn> huebi: well, egcs64 needs it
12:31 < armijn> eehw! where do those perl man pages come from?
12:31 < praenti> ANYBODY READ MY MAIL ON ROCK-DOC-PR? sorry for the loud question but otherwise nobody would answer me and give me some good/bad hints
12:31 < th_> telnet cvs.rocklinux.de 22
12:31 < th_> Trying 80.65.32.84...
12:31 < th_> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
12:31 < th_> praenti: 
12:31 < armijn>  /rock-linux/dist
12:31 < th_> praenti: aber du hast recht. http is noch oben
12:32 < praenti> th_: as i said
12:33 < th_> praenti: jop. hab mal wieder zu schnell gepasted
12:34 < armijn> huebi: well, seems like GNOME is failing bigtime
12:38 < armijn> and the kernel is failing (wrong config I think)
12:40 < huebi__> armijn: jo. wrong config for the kernel.
12:41 < armijn> ok
12:42 < huebi__> missing fonts for FB
12:42 < armijn> yeh.
12:42 < huebi__> brb
12:42 < armijn> have fun
12:45 < fake> re hi
12:49 < esden> hi all
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12:50 < armijn> hi esden
12:50 < armijn> hi fake
12:50 < huebi__> hi fake 
12:50 < huebi__> hi esden 
12:51 < huebi__> ;-))
12:51 < praenti> hi esden 
12:52 < armijn> huebi: "can't auto detect srctar for nasm"
12:52 < fake> hi esden 
12:52 < huebi__> armijn: should be easyly fixable.
12:53 < armijn> yeah, probably :)
12:53 < huebi__> nasm is only needed for lilo
12:53 < armijn> ooh...
12:54 < armijn> so we don't need it at all
12:55 < huebi__> jo
12:58 < fake> i am hungry.... -_-
12:59 * huebi__ eatin..
12:59 < fake> *grr*
13:02 < armijn> heheheheheheh
13:03 < fake> gives me the creeps when armijn laughs...
13:03 < huebi__> tonight I set up the netra x1 from ripclaw ;-)))
13:03 < armijn> oh yeah, I'm evil
13:04 < fake> netra x1?
13:04 < huebi__> fake: jo
13:04 < fake> what is that?
13:04 < armijn> huebi: some manpages are installed in a *very* weird place
13:04 < huebi__> UltraSPARC-II with 4500 or 500 MHz
13:04 < fake> 4500 ??
13:04 < armijn> 4500 MHz?
13:04 < fake> 450.
13:04 < armijn> wow!
13:04 < fake> huebi_______: cool.
13:05 < armijn> huebi: some GNOME manpages are installed in /rock-linux/dist
13:05 < huebi__> armijn: Ok must be fixed.
13:05 < armijn> but that could also be because gnome doesn't build nicely
13:06 < huebi__> armijn: could be . Yes very possible that the broken Gnome did that.
13:06 < armijn> kill the broken gnome!
13:07 < huebi__> armijn: For you? YES! - For others? NO! ;-)))
13:07 < fake> Gnome Hunting Challenge
13:08 < huebi__> I thought about putting Gnome in /opt/gnome.
13:08 < fake> i thought about outting gnome into /dev/null
13:08 < fake> ;)
13:09 < huebi__> So then it's in ROCK but not spread other the core system.
13:10 < huebi__> same for kde
13:10 < armijn> hmm
13:10 < armijn> dunno
13:11 < huebi__> armijn: That's for you! So it's clear what is core and what is optional.
13:12 < armijn> well, I am happy with the fact that we've got "base", "optional" and "ext"
13:12 < armijn> I just will build "base"
13:12 < armijn> that's what counts
13:12 < armijn> for me
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13:14 < huebi__> armijn: ok
13:15 < huebi__> In one week latest I can start to build an OpenOffice packet...
13:15 < armijn> eep!
13:15 < fake> huebi___________: sweet!
13:16 < armijn> you will need csh for that
13:16 < huebi__> bero from RedHat gave me all src.rpms he built for RH
13:16 < fake> rock-get install csh
13:16 < armijn> fake: I prefer porn-get
13:16 < fake> porn-get nude armijn ?
13:17 < armijn> oh, you like that?
13:17 < fake> would be odd to get the new repositoreis then
13:17 < fake> porn-get clifford
13:17 < fake> porn-get rene...
13:17 < huebi__> fake: It must be: porn-get -nude armijn
13:17 < armijn> ehr
13:17 < huebi__> -nude is an option. ;-)))
13:18 < fake> doens't por-get use XML configuration files?
13:18 < fake> ;))
13:18 < fake> RPML
13:18 < huebi__> -ultranude = even without skin
13:18 < fake> ROCK Porn Markup Language
13:19 < armijn> <boobies>2</boobies>
13:19 < fake> <head>1</head>
13:19 < armijn> who cares about the head?
13:19 < fake> <body skin="yes" color=#000000>
13:20 < armijn> that's...ehr...black, right?
13:20 < armijn> not goot in color codes
13:20 < armijn> good that is
13:20 < fake> pitch black, yes ;)
13:20 < armijn> where the sun doesn't shine...
13:21 < armijn> aah, I see, fake is one of *those* people
13:21 < fake> where the sun doenst shine the skin is #FFFFFF
13:21 < fake> white skind and black hair... black clothing. that'ds my "kind"
13:22 < armijn> goth
13:22 < fake> j0!
13:22 < fake> kinda.
13:22 < armijn> heh
13:23 < fake> huebi___________________: i'm afraid i can't com on sunday...
13:23 < fake> come
13:23 < huebi__> fake: oups. What did happen?
13:23 < fake> fake drives car, car eats gas, gas costs fake $$, but fake has only -$$
13:24 < armijn> so, fake eats gas?
13:24 < huebi__> hmmm.
13:25 < huebi__> armijn: fake smokes grass if Mathilda lets him 
13:25 < fake> she left not even one leaf :(
13:27 < armijn> who'
13:27 < armijn> s mathilda?
13:27 < armijn> who's mathilda?
13:27 < armijn> who's mathilda?
13:27 < huebi__> fake: I expected nothing else. I wanted to get some grass from her. But then she mentioned my intention and did not say "Muh!" anymore. It sounded lik"GRRROOORRR!!!!"
13:28 < huebi__>  ______________ 
13:28 < huebi__> < I'm Mathilda >
13:28 < huebi__>  -------------- 
13:28 < huebi__>         \   ^__^
13:28 < huebi__>          \  (oo)\_______
13:28 < huebi__>             (__)\       )\/\
13:28 < huebi__>                 ||----w |
13:28 < huebi__>                 ||     ||
13:30 < fake> *LOL*
13:30 < armijn> hehe
13:30 < huebi__> armijn: She looks like that when she has enough gras.
13:30 < armijn> fake likes cows...
13:33 < fake> and her mil is a deadly mixture of caffeine and THC.
13:33 < fake> s/mil/milk/
13:36 < armijn> moo!
13:37 < armijn> imagine cheese from that...
13:37 < armijn> or yoghurt
13:39 < armijn> huebi: was it fun with rippi last night?
13:40 < huebi__> jo, we fixed some stuff in ROCk and he got his Krupps
13:40 < armijn> fixed what? fixed what?
13:41 < huebi__> I forgot. Too much milk from Mathilda
13:41 < armijn> pfff
13:41 < armijn> I want a Mathilda as well...
13:41 < tsa> REEE!
13:41 < tsa> argh.
13:41 < tsa> Cows.
13:42 < armijn> what's wrong with cows?
13:42 < huebi__> tsa: huhu. What's up with the router?
13:42 < tsa> armijn: nothing, but i prefer them in little pieces, medium, with pepper...
13:42 < tsa> huebi: will be sent tu 3com for password reset.
13:42 < tsa> s,tu,to,
13:43 < armijn> heh
13:43 < huebi__> igitigit
13:43 < tsa> hehe
13:43 < tsa> Mooo!
13:43 < huebi__> GRRROOORRR
13:43 < huebi__> hehe
13:44 < armijn> maybe we should fork!
13:44 < armijn> make COW Linux
13:44 < armijn> with Mathilda as its logo
13:44 < armijn> "The first auto-milking distribution"
13:44 < huebi__> COW Linux - for farmers only?
13:45 < armijn> heh
13:45 < armijn> milk-get
13:45 < tsa> lol.
13:45 < huebi__> cheese-install
13:45 < armijn> and then we have it sponsored by Sun
13:45 < armijn> and make it purple
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13:45 < huebi__> MILKA!
13:46 < armijn> no wait, that will get us into trouble with Milka
13:46 < armijn> PPC Linux: PurPle Cow Linux
13:46 < huebi__> *LOOOOL*
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13:50 < huebi__> https://xine.sourceforge.net/ <- new
13:50 < armijn> yeah
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14:16 < SMP> *yawn*
14:17 < armijn> indeed
14:18 < huebi__> hi SMP ;-) Did you sleep well?
14:18 < armijn> let's all hug SMP!
14:19 < SMP> well enough, but too short ;-|
14:19 < SMP> armijn: bleh
14:19 < armijn> bleh?!?
14:20 < huebi__> SMP: I upload the new ISOs to th. from there I can transfer them to world when ssh is up again.
14:21 < armijn> let the world be infested with ROCK!
14:21 < SMP> huebi__: well you could still upload then via ftp...
14:21 < armijn> ftp! ftp!
14:21 < huebi__> I try that.
14:22 < huebi__> SMP: What did happen to ssh? 
14:22 < huebi__> so that you had to shut down the deamon.
14:22 < huebi__> SMP: ftp must be on port 443 ;(
14:23 < SMP> 'maintenancy' - sorry I can't be more specific
14:23 < SMP> s,y,,
14:23 < huebi__> SMP: Ok. Thank you. ;)
14:23 < armijn> maintenance...
14:23 < armijn> he means he's got to get rid of all his porn on the FTP site first!
14:24 < fake> hi SMP
14:25 < armijn> I say porn and fake wakes up
14:26 < fake> =D
14:26 < SMP> I have to disappoint you, but world propably our only server that doesn't carry lots of pr0n ;-]
14:26 < SMP> insert 'is'
14:26 < fake> aaaaw ... :(
14:26 < fake> ;)
14:27 < armijn> yeah, fake is one horny bastard...
14:27 < fake> you mix something up. tsa is the pr0n freak.
14:28 < armijn> how do you know?
14:28 < armijn> you probably watched all his pr0n, right?
14:29 < fake> noooo~!
14:29 < armijn> yeah, right.
14:39 < armijn> wow, Alice Cooper is coming to Amsterdam
14:39 < armijn> *need to see that*
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14:42 < fake> Alice in Netherland ...
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14:43 < huebi__> LOL
14:48 < huebi__> I have the idea to have a anonymous cvs on rocklinux.dyndns.org. When a commit arrives at cvs.rocklinux.de it will be rsynced automatikly to my anonymous cvs server
14:48 < SMP> I can run it on cvs.rocklinux.de, I just don't exactly know how
14:49 < huebi__> SMP: Jo. You will get all the info you need in a minute
14:49 < huebi__> or 5
14:49 < huebi__> ;-)
14:49 < SMP> slow, still working on sshd...
14:49 < huebi__> /etc/inetd.conf
14:50 < huebi__> cvspserverstream  tcp nowait cvs   /usr/bin/cvscvs --allow-root=/home/cvs/cvsroot pserver
14:50 < huebi__> This was the tricky part.
14:50 < huebi__> erm wrong. must be:
14:51 < SMP> yeah it's missing whitespace
14:51 < SMP> but I get the idea
14:51 < SMP> i'm not using inetd anyway
14:51 < huebi__> cvspserver   stream  tcp nowait cvs   /usr/bin/cvscvs --allow-root=/home/cvs/cvsroot pserver
14:51 < SMP> s,cvscvs,cvs cvs, 
14:51 < SMP> ;>
14:52 < huebi__> SMP: Yes I know that you don't use inetd. And I understand that.
14:56 < huebi__> Next month and perhaps in August also I do not work. I have planned to work at least the first 2 of July fulltime on ROCK to push it faster to 1.6. I have planned many documents on ROCK to make it easyer for beginners in ROCK to find the way to use it much easier and faster
14:57 < huebi__> Ripclaw has an offer to get a fast PurPle COW, erm PPC, for a good price for the PPC Port.
15:00 < SMP> do we already (in 1.7 or 1.5) have a 'empty chroot' directory?
15:00 < huebi__> SMP: No. But if you make one, please commit it.
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15:05 < armijn> huebi? build has finished
15:05 < huebi__> armijn: ok. 
15:05 * armijn looking at errors
15:06 < huebi__> root@rock:/rock-linux # ls /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err |wc -l
15:06 < huebi__>      22
15:07 < huebi__> nice. Not too much
15:07 < huebi__> root@rock:/rock-linux # ls /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*log |wc -l
15:07 < huebi__>     302
15:07 < armijn> yeah, but I'm tracking actually what went wrong and why
15:07 < tsa> depends on which 22 packages actually are broken.
15:07 < tsa> hm..
15:07 < tsa> is libpng ok?
15:08 < huebi__> jo
15:08 < tsa> hm...ok
15:08 < huebi__> flood:
15:08 < tsa> aah..
15:08 < huebi__> 3-alsa.err    3-gnome-applets.err  3-libgtop.err    3-rep-gtk.err
15:08 < huebi__> 3-apmd.err    3-gnome-core.err     3-linux.err      3-sawfish.err
15:08 < huebi__> 3-eog.err     3-gnome-network.err  3-mtools.err     3-softdog.err
15:08 < huebi__> 3-galeon.err  3-gnome-utils.err    3-nasm.err       3-xscreensaver.err
15:08 < huebi__> 3-gdm.err     3-gtop.err           3-nautilus.err
15:08 < huebi__> 3-gedit.err   3-iproute2.err       3-pcmcia-cs.err
15:08 < huebi__>  
15:08 < huebi__> That's it
15:09 < tsa> hm....lots of gnome stuff.
15:09 < tsa> probably the same problem.
15:09 < tsa> 3-linux.err ??
15:09 < tsa> huh.
15:09 < huebi__> only wrong .config
15:09 < tsa> ok, so we can safely ignore that one.
15:09 < tsa> 3-nasm.err?
15:10 < huebi__> not needed. it's only for lilo.
15:10 < armijn> yeah, libglade...
15:10 < tsa> ok.
15:10 < armijn> that's the problem
15:10 < huebi__> will be disabled for sparc
15:11 < armijn> lots of stuff barf on libglade not being compiled in with GNOME support
15:11 < tsa> ah..
15:11 < tsa> btw....
15:11 < tsa> what about the sol9?
15:12 < huebi__> all packets will besend tomorrow.
15:12 < tsa> cool. thanks a lot.
15:12 < huebi__> I have too much to do while at work
15:12 < armijn> huebi == busy man
15:13 < esden> ahh cool 1.7 catches the gcc errors now ... that is cool ;-)
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15:13 < esden> hi clifford_ 
15:13 < tsa> hi clifford_
15:13 < huebi__> (bet it's the reconnect)
15:13 < armijn> hi clifford_
15:14 < esden> huebi__: it is clifford's ghost ;-)
15:15 < tsa> esden: at least it's an good opportunity to say something and get better stats ;-)
15:15 < tsa> *G*
15:16 < huebi__> muh
15:16 < huebi__> plop
15:17 < armijn> plop?
15:17 < huebi__> armijn: just a plop to fill a line
15:17 < huebi__> ;-)
15:17 < tsa> plop.
15:18 < tsa> hm... interesting.
15:18 < armijn> for the statistics?
15:18 < huebi__> (i thing it begins to rain. Plop, Plop plop...
15:19 < esden> tsa: hehe
15:19 * -> esden feeding his alpha with a sexy cheetah harddisk ;-)
15:19 * tsa slaps huebi with a big UN*X manual.
15:19 < tsa> ;-)
15:20 < huebi__> outch
15:20 < huebi__> SINIX has many manuals
15:20 < armijn> heh
15:20 < armijn> esden: still building 1.7?
15:21 < armijn> we should have something more than just the Guide...
15:21 < armijn> for ROCK
15:21 < armijn> we should have a full and thorough description of the scripts (at least for 1.5.x)
15:21 < armijn> I think
15:21 < tsa> hacking-hoto.
15:21 < tsa> howto.
15:21 < armijn> maybe that would be a nice summer project...
15:21 < tsa> argh.
15:21 < tsa> s,hoto,howto,
15:22 < huebi__> we should have a full and thorough description of the scripts (at least for 1.5.x) <- ACK
15:23 < armijn> huebi: and a release plan for 1.6 :)
15:23 < armijn> as in, when will we release 1.6
15:23 < huebi__> armijn: ACK
15:23 < armijn> as soon as UltraSparc (base) works?
15:24 < huebi__> armijn: I first need make and share a big todo list.
15:24 < huebi__> +to
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15:25 < armijn> huebi: yeah, make one :)
15:26 < huebi__> armijn: ok. in the next 2 weeks it's ready.
15:26 < lizard> Why did the NVidia driver phuck up my glx and dri extensions ?!
15:26 < huebi__> and a big time schedule.
15:26 < huebi__> lizard: the answer is in the source of the NVidia driver ;>
15:28 < armijn> yeah, read the source >;>
15:30 < lizard> Speak, o Guru, what shall I do to repair the extensions ?
15:30 < lizard> (besides reading the source)
15:30 < armijn> download new driver?
15:30 < armijn> well, the source for those drivers isn't available...
15:30 < fake> RTFB
15:31 < fake> read the fscking binary
15:31 < armijn> yeah, use objdump for that ;)
15:32 < lizard> hmpf
15:33 < armijn> lizard: try praying
15:34 < lizard> I'm already up to
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15:40 < rolla> re
15:44 < esden> woahh ... the cheetah is loud ... 
15:45 < huebi__> esden: ;-)
15:45 < huebi__> normal
15:45 < SMP> sshd on world is back
15:45 < SMP> and here to stay
15:45 < SMP> running with privsep
15:45 < esden> I know .. but this is the first time I run such a disk
15:47 < esden> Error logs from build/default-1.7.0-DEV-ia32-dietlibc-expert/root/var/adm/logs:
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15:47 < esden> 110 builds total, 97 completed fine, 13 with errors.
15:47 < esden> grr
15:48 < armijn> too bad
15:48 < armijn> 22 packages failing here.
15:48 < armijn> not funm
15:48 < huebi> re
15:48 < esden> armijn: but from how many ?
15:49 < armijn> esden: 302 went ok
15:50 < armijn> huebi: I think the error (for GNOME) is in libgtop
15:51 < esden> hmm ... armijn that is a big difference ..
15:51 < huebi> armijn: any idea how to solve it?
15:52 < armijn> huebi: not sure...
15:52 < armijn> but it could be because of that the kernel didn't compile (not sure though)
15:52 < rolla> my build died again :(
15:52 < armijn> whoohoo!
15:53 < rolla> thanks
15:53 < rolla> /usr/include/linux/config.h:4: linux/autoconf.h: No such file or directory
15:53 < rolla> :(
15:53 < armijn> rolla: which version??
15:53 < rolla> 1.5.16
15:53 < armijn> known error
15:53 < armijn> not your fault
15:53 < armijn> has been fixed in CVS
15:54 < rolla> :(
15:54 < rolla> I need to pull down new src ?
15:54 < armijn> huebi: did you already release a new snap?
15:54 < huebi> no
15:55 < rolla> which one should I look for ?
15:55 < huebi> But SMP is working on an anonymouscvs server on world.
15:55 < armijn> there should be a big fat warning on the website that people should not use 1.5.16
15:55 < SMP> er
15:55 < SMP> why?
15:56 < armijn> SMP: because the build breaks, because the "linux-src" package is not good
15:56 < SMP> ah
15:56 < armijn> hehe...ROCK, the only distro with SMP support
15:59 < huebi> rolla: rock-1.5/base-config/linux/lx_config must be changed
16:00 < huebi> rolla: rock-1.5/base-config/linux/lx_config must be changed
16:00 < rolla> okay
16:00 < huebi> test 
16:00 < huebi> puh
16:00 < armijn> puh?
16:01 < huebi> i didn't see the lines in irssi any more
16:01 < huebi> rolla: https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/rock-1.5/base-config/linux/lx_config?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain
16:02 < rolla> what is the thanks
16:02 < rolla> thanks
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16:06 < esden> ok natalie is up ;-)
16:06 < armijn> who's natalie?
16:07 < armijn> is that another one of those cows?
16:07 < esden> natalie is my pws433
16:07 < armijn> I mean, fake has a "Mathilda"
16:07 < esden> no huebi is the owner of mathilda ... and she is our mascot
16:07 < armijn> aah, I see
16:07 < esden> Mathilda is the first asciiart mascot ;-)
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16:08 < esden> Mathilda eats weet and gives only caffeinated milk
16:09 < tsa> hm..
16:09 < rxr> re
16:09 < armijn> jum
16:09 < tsa> i'd prefer mathilda to drink milk and give weed.
16:09 < tsa> ;)
16:09 < tsa> reality is soo cruel.
16:09 < fake> tsa: *LOL*
16:10 < esden> yess .. and when you make a kotlet of her ... you get high and very awake after it
16:10 < tsa> yes..
16:10 < esden> tsa: yes good idea
16:10 < esden> ahh
16:10 < fake> and what is her weed called? sw33d!
16:10 * -> esden loves the sweet sound of a cheetah harddisk ;-)
16:11 < armijn> swedish weed?
16:12 < huebi> esden: Get a handfull of them and you will bann your alpha to the cellar ;-)) Believe me. I'm working on it for myself.
16:13 < armijn> banning? disks? alpha? or a cellar?
16:13 < huebi> armijn: lol
16:13 < huebi> banning? disks? alpha? -> down to the cellar
16:15 < esden> why should I ban my alpha to the celler if I have cheetah disks ?
16:15 < esden> are they making intel so fast ?
16:15 < armijn> they're noisy
16:15 < huebi> ACK
16:16 < esden> it is already really noisy in my room ... another noise procucer will not make it worse ...
16:16 < armijn> how serious is this PS/2 thing?
16:16 < armijn> this port
16:17 < esden> 100% serious
16:17 < esden> armijn: I was not joking
16:17 < armijn> but, so far no one has managed to get it working, right?
16:17 < esden> and I know that fake is able to port rock to it
16:17 < esden> armijn: sure is it working
16:18 < esden> there is a kernel from sony that works
16:18 < armijn> but you'll have to buy this "kit" right?
16:18 < armijn> with an extra harddisk, etc.
16:18 < esden> but the lxkernel developers are near to getting it working on it too
16:18 * tsa being more interested in seeing ROCK ported to real computers, not game stations.
16:19 < esden> tsa: so get this real machines ...
16:19 < esden> tsa: you can easyly say that you want it ported on real machines ... 
16:19 < armijn> whoohoo! Dio is coming to Europe again :)
16:19 < esden> but where you want to get them ?
16:19 < tsa> ok. /me looking for s/390 on ebay ;-)
16:19 < tsa> Dio?
16:20 < armijn> tsa: urgh...where were you in the 80s!
16:20 < tsa> armijn: drunk.
16:20 < armijn> esden: you say they can do it without this "kit" now?
16:21 < fake> Dido?
16:21 < fake> armijn: yes.
16:21 < armijn> not Dido! DIO
16:21 < fake> armijn: there is all Documentation needed in it.
16:21 < esden> fake:  you are the mips guy not me 
16:21 < tsa> who is DIO?
16:21 < armijn> you know, the guy that was a vocalist in Rainbow, Black Sabbath and Dio (the band)
16:21 * -> esden wants to get the money together for fakes ps2
16:22 < tsa> aaah!
16:22 < armijn> Ronnie James Dio...
16:22 < armijn> the small guy
16:22 < armijn> I think he's still quite popular in Germany
16:22 < tsa> esden: register a 0190 number with the deutsche telekom to make some money..
16:22 < tsa> 0190-rocklinux ;-)
16:22 < fake> :-/
16:23 < fake> armijn: no idea ...
16:23 < armijn> fake: how much cash would you need?
16:24 < fake> 333 EUR
16:24 < fake> IIRC
16:24 < fake> mom
16:25 < fake> no 299
16:25 < fake> 333 is bundled with a game.
16:26 < fake> me not need game
16:26 < esden> fake I checked yesterday you pay 319 eur for a playstation
16:27 < armijn> no games?
16:27 < esden> but it was alternate .. and they are very expensive .. like a drugstore ;-)
16:27 < fake> plus this: https://www.linuxplay.com/
16:29 < esden> and how much does the linux kit cost ?
16:30 < armijn> can't get it in Europe I think
16:30 < esden> 292,58EUR
16:30 < SMP> huebi: did you have a password set for the cvs user?
16:30 < fake> *ARRGH*
16:30 < fake> 292,58 EUR...
16:31 < fake> armijn: that was the european-order-page.
16:31 < armijn> oh
16:31 < huebi> SMP: mom
16:31 < esden> that is all together ...
16:31 < armijn> so, if you also need that, that will be...600 EUR?
16:31 < esden> something about 600EUR
16:31 < fake> i think i can afford to buy ONE of this myself...
16:31 < fake> ... (saving money for 6 months or so)
16:32 < huebi> SMP: jo. it was anonymous
16:32 < fake> but both would boost my capabilites completely and forever
16:32 < fake> (me earns 350 EUR, Flat is 300 EUR... don't ask.)
16:32 < armijn> how about Linux on PS1?
16:33 < fake> no, thanks.
16:33 < armijn> does that work?
16:33 < fake> no.
16:33 < armijn> so, if we'd be the first to do that...
16:33 < armijn> ;-)
16:34 < SMP> f*** cvs pserver
16:35 < fake> armijn: https://www.linux-mips.org/hardware.html
16:36 < huebi> SMP ACK
16:42 < fake> BTW - is deutschland jetzt endlich rausfegflogen? die wollten doch heute spielen
16:42 < fake> glaub ich
16:42 < huebi> de : usa
16:42 < armijn> today was UK-Brazil
16:42 < huebi> uk out
16:43 < fake> aaw.
16:43 < armijn> uk lost?
16:43 < fake> no germany? everyone at school was babbling something.
16:43 < rolla> DE 1:0 USA
16:44 < armijn> yeah! crush those americans :)
16:44 < rolla> ja 
16:47 < fake> >_<
16:47 < fake> *douh*
16:48 < fake> host.hrDevice.hrDeviceTable.hrDeviceEntry.hrDeviceType.769 = OID: host.hrDevice.hrDeviceTypes.hrDeviceProcessor
16:48 < fake> host.hrDevice.hrDeviceTable.hrDeviceEntry.hrDeviceDescr.769 = An electronic chip that makes the computer work.
16:48 < fake> lol
17:07 < esden> ok new kernel for my alpha compiling
17:08 * -> esden taking a shower
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17:24 < SMP> I see the sendmail package in 1.5 creates smmsp user/group ..
17:24 < SMP> is this supposed to be the official way of creating accounts for daemons?
17:25 < huebi> SMP: No. a setup script should do that.
17:25 < SMP> aah
17:25 < SMP> btw. uid 25 conflicts with the official reserved uid for qmailr
17:26 < huebi> The files passwd, shadow and group must not be touched by any packet except 00-dirtree IIRC
17:27 < SMP> I'm going to commit changes to rock-1.5 so that sshd will run privsep by default
17:27 < SMP> any objections?
17:27 < armijn> what's the diff?
17:27 < huebi> no. kool thing. I read something about it. Please feel free to commit it.
17:28 < SMP> armijn: still editing sshd.setup ..
17:29 < armijn> I just want to know why, I'm no ssh guru :)
17:29 < armijn> please explain in one sentence why it's better :))
17:29 < huebi> https://www.citi.umich.edu/u/provos/ssh/privsep.html
17:29 < huebi> armijn: Just one picture but very interesting.
17:30 < SMP> oh you mean 'diff' as in 'difference', not /usr/bin/diff :-)
17:30 < armijn> yeah
17:30 < armijn> ooh, if niels made it, it must be good
17:30 < huebi> ;-))
17:39 < armijn> heh
17:39 < esden> ahhh much better ...
17:42 < armijn> yeah!
17:42 < armijn> you weren't smelling too good, so
17:45 < esden> definitly not ;-)
17:45 < esden> it is too hot to smell good ;-)
17:46 < esden> only flowers smell good when you have so high temperatures
17:46 < esden> ;-)
17:47 < fake> especially the ones mathilda likes so much.
17:48 < esden> yes ... definitly ;-)
17:48 < armijn> k, am going home
17:48 < armijn> cu
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17:53 < tsa> cu all.
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17:56 < SMP> ok, it's in
17:58 < rolla> build dead again :(
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17:58 < rolla> same error as before
17:58 < holyolli> moin
17:58 < huebi> SMP: Thank you!
17:58 < rolla> /usr/include/linux/config.h:4: linux/autoconf.h: No such file or dir
17:58 < esden> hi holly
17:58 < holyolli> hi esden :)
17:59 < fake> hi holyolli 
17:59 < holyolli> hi fake
17:59 < huebi> rolla: cp /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h /usr/include/linux
17:59 < rolla> :)
18:00 < SMP> ok, third tree now, 1.7, preparing patch for Clifford ..
18:00 < huebi> rolla: do you have the newest lx_conf now?
18:00 < rolla> yes
18:02 < huebi> rolla: can you use nfs for build?
18:02 < rolla> no :(
18:03 < huebi> rolla: find / -name lx_conf. There must be two if you use ./scripts/Build-All COPY
18:04 < holyolli> bbl
18:04 < fake> SMP: woodchuck?
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18:04 < fake> ;)
18:04 < huebi> *LOL*
18:11 * fake drives spending money he doesnt have
18:11 < huebi> fake: have fun
18:11 < fake> but i feel the urgent need for b33r and f00d.
18:24 < esden> ph34r my lack of b33r & f00d
18:27 * -> esden f00d
18:40 < fake> re.
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18:48 < fake> re rxr.
18:50 < rxr> hi fake 
18:50 < huebi> hi rolla 
18:50 < huebi> hi rxr 
18:50 < huebi> ;-)
18:51 < rxr> moin huebi ;-)
18:51 < huebi> rolla: Does your build wor now?
18:51 < huebi> +k
18:53 < rolla> it still goes
18:53 < rolla> glibc right now :(
18:53 < rolla> slow 
18:53 < huebi> ok
18:53 < rolla> it takes many hours to hit spot where it dies
18:53 < huebi> so the kernel built?
18:54 < huebi> rolla: What hardware do you use?
18:54 < rolla> PII 300
18:54 < huebi> aiii!
18:54 < rolla> was ?
18:55 < huebi> ouch in french ;-)
18:55 < rolla> :)
18:55 < rolla> slow ?
18:56 < huebi> well on my dual AMD XP1800+ with make -j 16 I need for base + optional packages 6h
18:56 < huebi> with make -j1 more than 8h
18:57 < rolla> hmm I did a -j1 should I have done more ?
18:58 < huebi> jo. also on single CPU machines it at least a little bit faster. I suggest -j4 or -j8.
18:59 < rolla> okay
18:59 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
18:59 < Mike1> Hi
18:59 < huebi> If something faile first change tis setting back to -j1
18:59 < huebi> holla Miguel ;-)
18:59 < Mike1> Hola Andreas, como estas?
18:59 < fake> hm. note to myself: you don't like kohlrouladen.
19:00 < huebi> Very fine. Ands you?
19:00 < Mike1> i'm good thanks, doing some improvements on my mail server
19:00 < huebi> fake: Did you bought some of them?
19:01 < fake> yes. accidently.
19:01 < fake> and another note to myself could be, that not only look like whiskas...
19:01 < fake> that THEY not
19:02 < huebi> I need to know the IP of my server at home without the ability to ping it from here. So I wrote my first cgi script today *GG*
19:03 < fake> hehe. 
19:03 < huebi> Inm spired by d3mian
19:03 < Mike1> haha nice
19:03 < huebi> s/Inm/inspired/
19:03 < rolla> huebi: why not you dynamic DNS ?
19:03 < fake> #!/bin/bash ; ifconfig ppp0 ?
19:03 < rolla> s/you/use/
19:04 < huebi> fake: #!/bin/bash ; ifconfig -a *ROFL*
19:04 * fake uses dyndns too
19:04 < rolla> it is very nice
19:04 < fake> huebi: im ernst?
19:04 < huebi> fake: jo
19:04 < rolla> but I want a static ip for home :)
19:04 < huebi> rolla: I'm too lazy to login to members.dyndns.org ;)
19:05 < fake> huebi: is it running as root?
19:05 < rolla> ah 
19:05 < huebi> fake: no, as apache
19:05 < fake> huebi: get yourself a dyndns client and put it into /etc/ppp/ip.upd or sth
19:06 < rolla> ja
19:06 < huebi> fake: I have one. But I need the IP - not the only the name - for transconnect.
19:07 < fake> huebi: ssh ... nslookup?
19:07 < fake> <? echo passthru('nslookup $HOST');?>
19:07 < huebi> nslookup of names outside the lan does not work.
19:07 < fake> huebi: use https://fake.by-infonet.de/traceroute.php
19:08 < fake> err
19:08 < fake> https://fake.by-infonet.de/trace.php?ip=<hostname_here>
19:09 < huebi> the only way to get outside is port 443 on the proxy
19:10 < fake> damn... where the hell do you work??
19:10 < fake> the NSA?
19:10 < huebi> In a Bank ;-))
19:10 < fake> ah, i see. people there should work, not browse da net for pr0n.
19:11 < huebi> jo. hehe
19:11 < huebi> But a banker must can do online brokerage ;-))
19:11 < huebi> https = 443
19:11 < huebi> hehehehe
19:18 < fake> strange. the only port blocked in my company is... err... oh . i forgot. there is none XD
19:23 < huebi> fake: Security is something strange.
19:23 < huebi> ;-)
19:32 < esden> argh the keyboard is not working at natalie !! >_<
19:37 < fake> ... natalie.
19:38 < esden> argggghhh 
19:38 < esden> I hate curl
19:38 < esden> it dumps core on alpha >_<
19:39 < esden> fsck
19:42 < rxr> esden: natalie ?
19:43 < esden> rxr: yes my alpha
19:46 < rxr> esden: ;-) Ah ...
19:46 < fake> there is something wrong with the new optimisation
19:46 < fake> if gcc3 is missing on the build system, gcc2 is used.
19:47 < fake> but the gcc3-optimising-options are also used...
19:54 < esden> woa ... was fuer ein krasses gewitter ... 
19:57 < fake> wo?
19:58 < esden> in ingolstadt
20:00 < fake> drum ;)
20:01 < esden> fake: wie sieht es bei dir aus ?
20:01 < fake> hm... eklige sonne.
20:01 < esden> du armer 
20:01 * -> esden geniesst gewitter ;-)
20:02 < huebi> cu later
20:02 < fake> cu hue!
20:02 < esden> cu l8er huebi 
20:02 < fake> bi.
20:02 < fake> esden: wenns bei mir gewitter hab ich nur immer angst um meine lieben... anonsten geil ;)
20:04 < esden> ich habe eine ups hier ... deshalb mache ich mir nicht allzuviele sorgen um meine maedels ;-)
20:04 < fake> esden: Ueberschutzsspannung?
20:04 < fake> Ueberspannungsschutz >_>
20:04 < esden> hehe ja ... dafuer sind ups ja auch da
20:05 < esden> nicht nur wegen stromausfall
20:05 < fake> wieviele kisten haengen da dran?
20:06 < esden> 2 der rest ist mir entweder wurscht oder normallerweise aus
20:06 < esden> ich werde mir ne groessere zulegen muessen so dass ich meine komplette hardware daran anschliessen kann ...
20:14 < fake> "zulegen"... jaja ;)
20:15 < esden> ja ... ok ... schenken lassen ... finden ... oder so
20:16 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9522F79.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:16 < bluefire> Moin
20:17 < bluefire> well... soon at least ;)
20:18 < esden> moin bluefire 
20:18 < esden> argh ... is the software on alpha unstable ...
20:18 < esden> that sux
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20:27 * lizard has 2.5.23 running ;-)
20:27 < esden> bravo lizard 
20:27 < lizard> :-))
20:31 < lizard> ich werd heut die dmesg als nachtlektuere geniessen :->
20:33 < esden> jo tue dass
20:34 * -> esden muss sich endlich dass betriebsysteme design buch vom tannenbaum zulegen ...
20:36 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B579a.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux
20:36 < owl> hi#+
20:38 < Mike1> hi owl
20:38 < esden> hi owl 
20:38 < Mike1> lo esden ;)
20:38 < esden> nOOOOOOOOO
20:38 * -> esden dying
20:38 < fake> STOP: c000021a hard error
20:38 < fake> der keurzeste bluescreen den ich je gesehen hab
20:39 < rolla> :)
20:39 < esden> kaempfst du wieder mit windoof ?
20:39 < esden> @ fake 
20:39 < fake> ja... will endlich nwn spielen verdammt
20:39 < esden> neverwinternights ?
20:39 < fake> jep
20:40 < fake> hm.. kann ich ne IDE-Platte einfach on-the-fly ausbauen?
20:40 < fake> ne... ich wart erst bis glibc durch is *g*
20:40 < esden> viel erfolg
20:43 < fake> == 15:09:18 =[0]=> Building base/glibc [2.2.5 1.7.0-DEV-200206211156].
20:43 < fake> == 06/20/02 22:28:01 =[0]=> Finished building package glibc.
20:44 < fake> that's 7h 10m
20:44 < fake> about 1h faster than the indigo2
20:44 < fake> and (surprsingly) 4 hrs faster than the indy
20:47 < rolla> which box is this ?
20:53 < fake> rolla: yours ;)
20:54 < rolla> crazy
20:55 < rolla> you weren't kidding when you said it would help your builds
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21:12 < Mike1> hi [anders]
21:13 < [anders]> re Mike1 
21:13 < [anders]> How's things?
21:18 * fake will now try hdparm -U
21:18 < [anders]> -U ?
21:18 < lizard>   -U     Un-register an IDE interface.  Dangerous.
21:19 < [anders]> erk..
21:19 < [anders]> when would you want to use that?
21:19 < lizard> Use with knowledge and extreme caution as
21:19 < [anders]> if you have the IDE i/f modularised?
21:19 < lizard> this can easily hang or damage  your  system.
21:20 < lizard> fake: You have a disc made for hot-swapping ?
21:24 * lizard will be in Bavaria tomorrow 
21:26 * [anders] will start looking at some bits and pieces for a workstation at home..
21:26 < [anders]> wil probably get the Shuttle SS40G..
21:27 < [anders]> s;wil;will;
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21:48 < tsa> re
21:56 < fake> [anders] lizard : just.... don't use it... ;)
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22:12 < Mike1> re tsa
22:14 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E39A9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("upgrade")
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22:14 < tsa> hi Mike1
22:14 < tsa> hi Freak
22:14 < Mike1> re Freak
22:15 < Freak> re
22:26 -!- huebi_ [~huebi@pD9E1C367.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving")
22:27 < huebi> re
22:31 * huebi disassembles the U30...
22:32 < fake> huebi: rolla did -j8 and now has a load of 48. statement?
22:34 < huebi> fake: while building the kernel that's normal.
22:34 < rolla> :)
22:34 < huebi> the make jobs are not fully controlled by make. there are spawned many more than it should.
22:34 < rolla> yeah 
22:36 < huebi> at a load of over 350 on my box it gets critical - not enought file handles.
22:36 < fake> there are 1024... right?
22:36 < huebi> cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max 
22:36 < huebi> 8192
22:36 < fake> hm.
22:36 < fake> can i change that? i need more for mldonkey *g*
22:37 < huebi> echo 16384 > /proc/sys/fs/file-max
22:37 < huebi> the load on a single CPU system would be about 700
22:38 < huebi> Very slow but _very_ stable !
22:38 < rolla> :)
22:38 < huebi> Linux is kool!
22:38 < fake> hm.... is that also for socket-file-descriptors?
22:38 < rolla> yeah and I thought 50 was hgh :)
22:41 < fake> rolla: i would get nervous if you have 50 while not building anything ;)
22:42 < rolla> yeah but it is building kernel right now
22:43 < rolla> no smoke yet from the CPU ;)
22:44 < bluefire> tsa: How's Mathilda?
22:45 < fake> you can call the operator for the superperforrator..
22:45 < fake> *moooooooooooooooooo*
22:49 < huebi> hehe ;-)))
22:49 < tsa> bluefire: i don't know..
22:49 < huebi> base-config/mathilda
22:49 < huebi> hi tsa ;-)
22:49 < tsa> hi huebi
22:50 < fake> OpenBSD may be your families only line of defense...
22:50 < bluefire> tsa: don't you have the cow script?
22:50 < tsa> bluefire: i do.
22:51 < tsa>  ______ 
22:51 < tsa> ( Moo! )
22:51 < tsa>  ------ 
22:51 < tsa>         o   ^__^
22:51 < tsa>          o  (oo)\_______
22:51 < tsa>             (__)\       )\/\
22:51 < tsa>                 ||----w |
22:51 < tsa>                 ||     ||
22:51 < tsa> ok? ;)
22:51 < bluefire> Thanks very much ;)
22:51 < tsa> hehe
22:53 < fake> *lol*  @BSD-Songs
22:53 < tsa> hehe
22:53 < tsa> we neeed a rock song.
22:54 < tsa> "we will rock you"?
22:54 < fake> Rock is Dead
22:54 < huebi> th: a job for clifford ;-))
22:54 < fake> Marilyn Manson rulez
22:55 < tsa> hey, we're not dead.
22:55 < tsa> i hope.
22:55 < fake> that song is ment ironic
22:56 < tsa>  /vol/multimedia/mp3/Albums/Marilyn Manson - Mechanical Animals/[04] - Rock is dead.mp3
22:56 < tsa> ah.
22:56 < rolla> xine rulez
22:56 < fake> mplayer rulez
22:56 < rolla> :)
22:57 < tsa> i rule.
22:57 < fake> hm... i need more mp3s...
22:57 < tsa> ;)
22:57 < fake> tsa: Harper :P
22:57 < tsa> hehe
22:57 < esden> okk wieder mathilda hier ???
22:57 < esden> hi all
22:57 < fake> tsa: like Andromeda?
22:57 < tsa> hi esden
22:58 < fake> esden: she's been waiting for you all the time.
22:58 < huebi> hi esden 
22:59 -!- Mathilda [~sjaenick@attila.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de] has joined #rocklinux
22:59 * Mathilda setzt esden nen Haufen auf den Schuh.
23:00 < esden> Mathilda: >_<
23:00 < Mathilda> Muh!
23:00 * -> esden zieht seinen buttermesser und schneidet einen kottlett von mathildas arsch ab
23:00 < Mathilda> Au!
23:00 * -> esden geht grillen
23:00 < Mathilda> MUHHH!
23:01 * Mathilda knabbert mal esden's schnuersenkel ab
23:02 -!- Mathilda [~sjaenick@attila.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de] has quit (Client Quit)
23:02 * -> esden ignoriert mathilda
23:03 < esden> .oO(Mathilda ist eh nur als kottlett und caffeinaitedmilk spaender da)
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23:09 < rolla> re owl
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23:16 < huebi> ftp://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.16/ update :-)
23:16 < huebi> esden: SAUGEN!
23:16 < fake> sag mir wie es ist wenn du dein dein spiegelbild siehst sag mir warum du dir die lust an deiner gegenwart stielst...
23:16 < huebi> MegaHerz 
23:16 < fake> sag mir wie es istr wenn du allein mit dir daheim bist sag mir wie es ist - sag mir wer du bist...
23:17 < huebi> wer bist du...
23:17 < fake> sag mir wie es ist wenn du die dunkelheit fuelst warum du bei tag und nacht i diner drogenwelt wuehlst
23:18 < fake> sag mir wie es ist wenn dir das wasser bis zu strin sthet sag mir es wer du bist
23:18 < fake> bist du gluecklich ? geht es dir gut?
23:18 < huebi> hmm. mal wieder Zeit fuers Terminus in Mainz Mombach (dawodidasonebenanfestplattenbeiibmbauen)
23:19 < fake> es ist ein scheiss gefuehl sich keinen fehler zu verzeihn es sit ein scheiss gefuehl ALLEIN ZU SEIN...
23:19 < fake> wer wer bist du....
23:20 < fake> sag mir wie es ist wenn du dein spiegelbild siehst sag mir warum du dieses leben nicht zu leben beschliesst...
23:20 < esden> huebi: bin gleich dabei
23:21 < fake> sag mir warum du deine augen stur nach innen verrenkst sag mir ob du vielleicht morgen schon im treppenhaus haengst
23:22 < fake> es gilt herauszufinden wer du bist die welt zu erkkenne wie sie ist die luegen zu durchschaun dich aufzubaun gut zu fuehln dich durchzuwuehln....
23:23 < fake> *seufz*
23:24 * huebi ripping Megaherz - Wer bist du
23:24 < fake> huebi: kennst du Subway to Sally?
23:24 < huebi> fake: no
23:25 < fake> boeser fehler.... darf ich dir ein lied schicken?
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23:25 < huebi> fake: jo
23:25 < huebi> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/upload
23:25 < fake> mom ich schiebs irgendwohin...
23:25 < fake> oh. ok. *h*
23:27 < fake> ETA:   3:25
23:33 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@xs3.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux
23:33 < ringo78> hi-all !
23:35 < fake> huebi: finished
23:35 < huebi> fake: danke
23:38 < fake> huebi: bedank dich wenns dir gefaellt ;)
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23:48 < Mike1>  3:44pm  up 23 days, 21:11,  2 users,  load average: 65.32, 63.46, 62.98
23:50 < fake>  23:49:56 up 73 days, 2:51, 0 users, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.04 
23:50 < Mike1> hehe
23:51 < Mike1> guess i'm a little busy ;)
23:51 * fake is lazy ;)
23:51 < Mike1> hehe
23:53 < esden> hi Mike1 
23:54 * -> esden confused ...
23:54 < Mike1> how are you esden
23:54 < huebi> fake: Thank you,. But I like Megaherz and Rammstein more.
23:55 < fake> huebi: sorry -_-
23:55 < Mike1> esden: why confused?
23:55 < huebi> es ist nicht leicht ein Gott zu sein...
23:55 < fake> no need to laugh and cry... it's a wonderful wonderful life...
23:56 < esden> we are loosers: https://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/store.aspx?storeid=gentoolinux
23:56 < esden> I want rocklinux merchendise too ...
23:56 < esden> *cry*
23:57 < Mike1> esden: so lets get some stuff done
23:58 < tsa> esden: we don't even have a decent homepage design. how do you expect us to make shirts and other stuff, then?
23:58 < tsa> we're admins, not designers.
23:58 < esden> tsa: so we need designers ...
23:58 < huebi> so we need a designer...
23:58 < tsa> yes, i think so.
23:58 < esden> but noone knows a really good designer that would work for free
23:59 < huebi> esden: my sister?
23:59 < tsa> how old?
23:59 < tsa> pics?
23:59 < tsa> ;-)
23:59 < lizard> hehe
23:59 < Mike1> huebi: she cute?
23:59 < Mike1> tsa: hehe
23:59 < huebi> https://www.desarc.de/
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