--- Log opened Sat Jun 22 00:00:06 2002
--- Day changed Sat Jun 22 2002
00:00 < tsa> FLASH??
00:01 < tsa> oh, no flash.
00:01 < tsa> anim gif
00:01 < Mike1> more samples?
00:01 < tsa> but - no links on that page?
00:02 < Mike1> we seriously need so new stuff
00:02 < huebi> hmm I don't know what happend to that site. I send her a mail.
00:03 < esden> I do not have problems with flash
00:03 < Mike1> anyone saw Praentis mail?
00:03 < esden> i even like flash if it is made good
00:03 < Mike1> he sent a mail to rock-doc-pr regarding the website desig
00:03 < esden> it works under linux so where is the problem ?
00:04 < Mike1> +n
00:04 < esden> Mike1: yes I saw it
00:04 < Mike1> Logos didnt look that bad
00:04 < esden> hmm i think that the logos are not bad
00:05 < huebi> http://www.frontsite.de/ <- Karen, a good friend, made this. Very good site desigen for a bad company.
00:05 < huebi> -e
00:05 < esden> but some people here (Benjamin Schieder for example) did not like it 
00:05 < Mike1> I know we are all sysadmins and not designers but somehow maybe there could be a contest or something to make a new logo
00:06 < huebi> esden: It is normally not done with a logo. It should be a complete design.
00:06 < huebi> http://www.frontsite.de/ did cost about 15.000 to 20.000 EUR
00:07 < esden> huebi: sure I know
00:07 < esden> I now wait for the complete desigt
00:07 < esden> n
00:07 < esden> then we can say more about it ...
00:07 < huebi> * esden gets older and older *g*
00:09 < huebi> We need a designer or a small design team for 2 or three designs. then we can all deside what we use, I suggest.
00:09 < Mike1> www.flashartist.de
00:09 < huebi> I ask Karen first.
00:09 < Mike1> http://www.flashartists.de *
00:10 < huebi> no flash in my mozilla ;(
00:10 < esden> huebi: so change this situation ... these are only two files you have to copy in your plugins directory
00:10 < huebi> esden: ?
00:11 * fake will not install flash
00:11 < esden> fake: why ?
00:11 < fake> two *binary
00:11 < Mike1> whats the deal with flash? 
00:11 < huebi> esden: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/upload
00:11 < Mike1> it runs on linux i dont see whats wrong
00:11 < huebi> aber hurtig ;-)))
00:11 < fake> esden: whenever i did that my browser died 50% faster.
00:12 < tsa> flash is a good means to prevent people from surfing a website because it freezes the browser.
00:12 < fake> i consider that a bug, not a feature.
00:12 < huebi> fake: lynx is known for that problem...
00:12 < fake> huebi: ha-ha.
00:12 < huebi> error in linking aalib ;-)))
00:12 < huebi> *ROFL*
00:13 < Mike1> haha
00:14 * -> esden putting ... my connection at home is really full
00:15 < esden> fake: my browser never died till now ...
00:15 < huebi> esden: or give my just the URL
00:15 < esden> fake: you are surfing too many xxx and warez sites ... that are killing your browser ... ;-)
00:15 * fake back in 15 mins
00:17 < esden> huebi: it is up
00:19 < esden> huebi: copy ShockwaveFlash.class  libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ and restart your mozilla
00:19 < esden> then it should work
00:26 < esden> ..
00:31 < Mike1> ...
00:31 < huebi> http://www.kimble.org/cgi-bin/image <- This idiot can't even brake nor drive a fast car. Typical broken brake disks when they got too fast too hot. The holes are also very awfull. One crack through each hole! These disks a inline cooled so holes are a rael _must not_ .
00:32 < huebi> http://www.kimble.org/pictures/1000x656/kimorg-20010429-121819.jpg
00:32 < tsa> url broken.
00:32 < huebi> jup
00:34 * fake making coffee
00:34 < fake> who wants?
00:34 < huebi> http://www.kimble.org/pictures/1000x656/kimorg-20010430-153932.jpg <- same crapp again..
00:34 * Mike1 needs coffee
00:35 < huebi> http://www.kimble.org/pictures/1000x656/kimorg-20010430-184356.jpg <- An Excalibur - just a bloated corvette
00:39 < Mike1> Ok guys i'm partying tonight so i will see you tomorrow
00:39 < Mike1> gut night you all
00:39 < esden> have fun Mike1 
00:39 < esden> I have a party tomorrow
00:39 < Mike1> esden: thank i will *G
00:39 < huebi> cu mike
00:40 < huebi> have fun ;-)
00:40 < esden> nice girls alcohol ... ;-)
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00:40 < esden> real fun
00:40 < esden> I hope verena will come tomorrow ... 
00:40 < esden> *hope*
00:41 * fake Clawfinger - Nigger
00:41 * -> esden will test the gentoo installation on sunday
00:42 < esden> who is writing the tons of documentation they have ???
00:42 < fake> und wieder an irgendnem scheissgehaeuse die finger aufgeritzt.... *argh*
00:43 < fake> *brodl* (die kaffeemaschine)
00:43 < esden> normal @ fake 
00:44 < fake> i made it pitch-black-almost-sticky-coffee. hope that's fine with all of you ;)
00:45 < esden> yes that is ok @ fake
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00:50 < esden> cu all
00:50 < fake> cu!
00:51 < fake> and what about ur coffee?
00:51 < fake> hm. more for me ;)
00:53 < lizard> hum what files do I need for Java in Mozilla ?
00:53 < fake> jre.xpi
00:53 < fake> just a sec
00:53 < huebi> cu esden 
00:54 < lizard> fake: the installer didn't work
00:54 < fake> lizard: if u want to install it system-wide, open mozilla as root (and if the installer didn't work ;)
00:54 < fake> then it's installed as general plugin
00:54 < lizard> aaaah!
00:54 < lizard> sure... *nfc*
00:55 < fake> <- nsc
00:55 < lizard> phuck windows-behavior
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00:58 < fake> aaaw! coffee is ready!
01:06 < huebi> tsa: how does autocompletion work in tsh?
01:06 < tsa> tsh?
01:06 < tsa> no idea
01:07 < huebi> I mean the standard solaris shell.
01:07 < tsa> aah. /sbin/sh
01:07 < fake> huebi: pkg-add bash
01:07 < tsa> no completion.
01:07 < tsa> exec bash
01:07 < fake> www.sunfreeware.com
01:07 < tsa> and don't even think on changing root's shell.
01:08 < huebi> tsa Why?
01:08 < tsa> comp.unix.solaris is full of people who have done this and are now trying to get their root login back.
01:08 < huebi> I never did that but what exactly happens?
01:08 < huebi> hehe
01:09 < fake> solaris hast it's edges...
01:09 < fake> like hardwired lib pathes...
01:09 < fake> you can set LD_PRELOAD to whatever you want. if the library isn't in /usr/lib - nothing will work.
01:10 < fake> for, e.g. mount.
01:10 < fake> or cp. or mv.
01:10 < huebi> argh 3DES password hashes...
01:11 < tsa> fake: use rpath
01:12 < fake> tsa: too late. linuxified ;)
01:12 < tsa> the solaris linker is pretty cool, it allows different versions of the same library to co-exist on a system.
01:12 < tsa> _without_ using crappy LD_LIBRARY_PATH stuff
01:13 < fake> tsa: telepathy?
01:13 < tsa> hehe
01:13 < tsa> (btw...the linux ld will probably change to something similar..)
01:14 < fake> cool.... "This item has supercow powers."
01:16 < tsa> huebi: /sbin/sh is a static shell. doing major updates (libc stuff, ..) would be a pain in the ass without it.
01:17 < tsa> have /usr on an own partition, be unable to mount it. /usr/lib is gone, how login without /sbin/sh ..?
01:17 < tsa> ...
01:19 < tsa> http://www.cse.psu.edu/~groenvel/root-shell.html
01:23 < fake> cool. NWN installation seems to work this time.
01:25 < fake> hm... kaffee is was feines
01:28 < term_aweh> good night
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01:37 < huebi> learned sth
01:38 < huebi> tip on Solaris needs an entry in /etc/remote
01:38 < huebi> a:\
01:39 < huebi>    :dv=/dev/ttya:br#9600
01:39 < huebi> tip a  - and you can connect to a netra x1
01:41 < fake> *WUAHAHHAHAHHAAAAAAAA*
01:42 < fake> *ROOOOOFL*
01:42 < tsa> hm?
01:42 < fake> *abkack*
01:42 < tsa> sure it was coffee you made?
01:42 < fake> bei NWN Character Setup kannst du dein Voice Set auswaehlen
01:42 < fake> Male, Manic Psychotic
01:42 < tsa> hehe
01:42 < fake> Sample: WUAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH You won't have meeeeeeeeeeeeeehehehehehehBWUAHAHAHAHAHA
01:42 < tsa> hehe
01:42 < fake> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
01:42 < fake> usw.
01:43 < tsa> make mp3's and spread them ;)
01:43 < fake> I SEE THEM! I can see them! The enemy is here!! *waaaaaaaH*
01:43 < fake> run . RUN!  RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!
01:44 < fake> Pious Scholar: "By my will: Attack!"
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01:52 < fake> amazing gfx...
01:52 < netcrow> hi fake
01:53 < huebi> ERROR: Fail on address line, address = 0x0, index=0x40
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01:53 < huebi> registered ECC memory is needed for the Netra-X1
02:05 < fake> ok... if you are looking for something to do while copiling - i suggest Neverwinter Nights (on your other PeeCee)
02:05 < fake> it's really... *uff*
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02:42 < huebi> not so easy to get the Netra to boot silo
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02:49 < tsa> n8
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02:49 < huebi> n8 th 
03:15 < fake> fascinating...
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04:33 < uninvited> Hola !
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05:41 < fake> ...
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08:53 < rxr> re
09:20 < huebi> moin
09:20 < huebi> hi rxr ;-)
09:39 < rxr> moin huebi !
09:39 < huebi> rxr: kannst du mir deine adresse geben? Ich will dir dein solaris 9 zuschicken.
09:40 < rxr> huebi: Oh! Vielen Dank!
09:40 < huebi> das ist sehr gut um grosse ide platten zu labeln ;-)
09:41 < rxr> wie? ;-)
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09:43 < huebi> wenn diu eine neue, grosse, ungelabelte platte nimmst, und von der software 1/2 CD bootest, dann wird die platte automatisch mit einem passendem Label versehen. probiert mit 40GB SUN Platte von Ripclaw.
09:49 < rxr> hackbard: awake?
09:51 < rxr> hackbard: I forgot your family name - sorry. Maybe you could write esden to add you to the developers gallery? (So /me can find it for the next patch forwarded to clifford ;-)
09:59 < rxr> huebi: /me is away now ... - cu you later
10:00 < huebi> cu rxr 
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10:50 < bluefire> Moin
10:50 < huebi> hi bluefire fire ;-)
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11:00 < bluefire> Moin huebi. Already got something for bbq for tomorrow?
11:06 < huebi> oups. no
11:07 < huebi> I still have to go shopping
12:04 < esden> hi all
12:04 < esden> I need a faster cd burner !!!
12:56 < bluefire> Hi esden
12:56 < bluefire> esden: buy one.
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13:36 < esden> bluefire: if it was so easy
13:36 < bluefire> esden: ain't it?
13:36 < bluefire> I think the current Plex burners are ok, no?
13:38 < esden> yes I think that it is ok
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14:04 < term_emu> moin
14:08 < tomik> hi 
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14:52 < huebi> MoeP!
14:55 * huebi puts a new 80GB Maxtor HD in the U5
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15:06 < huebi> (hm. wohl alle von der Sonne gebacken...)
15:15 < tomik> huebi: :)
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15:17 < uninvited> Hello !
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15:33 < esden> huebi: ???
15:50 < esden> cu all
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17:08 < fake> *uargh*
17:08 < huebi> hi fake 
17:08 < fake> morgen.
17:08 < huebi> fake: wieder Kohlrouladen? *g*
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17:09 < huebi>                             
17:09 < huebi> das war ebend ella
17:10 < huebi> spiel jetzt mit maus und tasytatur
17:10 < fake> ella?
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17:15 < huebi> fake: jo. meine kleine Tochter. Ist jetz 13 Monate alt.
17:15 < huebi> +t
17:16 < fake> und die kann mit 13 monaten schon ascii art? l33t!
17:18 < huebi> *g* war noch im Buffer von der Maus. Und dann hat sie die mittlere Maustaste getroffen.
17:20 < fake> suess ;)
17:24 < huebi> jo. macht viel Spass, die kleine.
17:28 < fake> cannot you feel the hidden threat? my l33t sense never tingle wrong.
17:28 < fake> ph33r this one, piro. ph34r with great ph33r.
17:28 < fake> *lol*
17:29 < huebi> weia...
17:29 < fake> but if yer gonna mooch food of this chick, make sure she brings b33r next time....
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18:17 < fake> paypal is most irritating.
18:23 < huebi> fake: jo. And there have been realms that transmissions sometimes fail and you loose your money.
18:26 < fake> huebi: is there a better alternative? no.
18:27 < huebi> fake: only more costly ones AFAIK
18:29 * fake feels like he might finyllay need to get a credit card.
18:29 < fake> i don't want one...
18:30 < huebi> fake: I also have none. But it seams to be a very common way to pay.
18:30 * huebi got this week some information about credit cards...
18:32 < fake> which information?
18:32 < fake> huebi: in U.S. credit cards are more common than cash, i know.
18:33 < huebi> What the cards cost, what is included...
18:33 < fake> but i also know my behaviour regarding the ability of getting money i don't have.
18:34 < huebi> needs some discipline..
18:35 < fake> all my discipline is like blown away when i enter a store seling hardware
18:35 < fake> http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/mips/
18:36 < huebi> fake: get somebody to give you an account on ascii red. 
18:36 < huebi> or something similar.
18:36 < fake> ha - ha.
18:36 < fake> Earth Simulator account.
18:36 < fake> i sumlate the ROCKs.
18:37 < huebi> fake: With 17 I had an account on an Amdahl and two IBM mainframes.
18:37 < fake> huebi: the difference is: you are l33t. i am l4m3.
18:38 < fake> you even have a l33t daughter!
18:38 < fake> ;)
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18:39 < fake> *oops*
18:39 < huebi> It's the same as with ROCK Linux. Missing marketing...
18:40 < huebi> fake: *g*
18:40 < fake> you mean i am missing marketing?
18:41 < huebi> The famous fake ported ROCK on MIPS. Quick the red carpet.. But nobody knows that.
18:41 < huebi> fake: Do you _really_ want an account on a very fast and big machine?
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18:43 < fake> huebi: what will it be good for?
18:44 < huebi> fun for you. Or what ever you want.
18:44 < fake> if it has a fast connection and i have a loose quota, i will be fine with that.
18:44 < huebi> fake: you should know that.
18:44 < fake> but... yes i think i'd like one
18:44 < fake> apollo is to restrictive in bandwidth
18:45 < fake> they look at every Gig
18:45 < fake> but i have sudo on apollo ;)
18:46 < huebi> A big advantage of just an account is that you can just use the machine. You do not have to think about all the other stuff arround it.
18:47 < fake> true...
18:47 < fake> yes, an acc on a sunfire would be really sw33t.
18:47 < fake> or s/th sim
18:48 < huebi> air condition, current, building, line costs, admins... you name it. All that is then not your problem.
18:48 < fake> huebi: alright, gimme one ;)
18:49 * huebi patching OBP on Ultra 5 to be a StarTiger 30K
18:49 < huebi> *g*
18:49 < fake> is tiger really the next one? 
18:50 < huebi> Yes, of course. But even SUN still does not it at all. Top secret...
18:50 < huebi> <- bigest story teller in the world
18:51 < fake> hm... most interesting. if i apply the binutils patch for mips, gcc3 fails. if i don't apply it everything's fine.
18:51 < fake> error: lilbffi has not yet been portetd to mips-unkownk-linux-gnu
18:52 < huebi> fake: SGI Origin 3x00 ?
18:52 < fake> huebi: immer her damit *g*
18:53 < fake> eeeeetoo? since when does perl5 compile with gcc3?
18:54 < huebi> IIRC since a week
18:54 < fake> rene?
18:55 < huebi> IIRC clifford
18:56 < huebi>  SGI   SGI Origin 3200 1X 600MHz R14k  1  483  500  <- nice
18:56 < huebi> Advanced Micro Devic  Epox 8KHA+ Motherboard, AMD Athlon (TM) XP 2100+  1  720  749  <- nicer ;-)
18:56 < huebi> http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/results/cpu2000.html
18:57 < huebi>  IBM Corporation   IBM eServer pSeries 690 Turbo (1300 MHz)  1  1202  1266  <- *habenwill*
18:58 * fake bekommt aus der arbeit nen HP 9000 geschenkt
18:58 < huebi> nett. Und wo stellst du den hin ?
18:59 < huebi>  Sun Microsystems   Sun Blade 1000 Model 1900  1  369  410  <- l4m3 ente ;-)
19:00 < fake> Ralf Bächle (ralf@gnu.org) and a team of SGI employees are currently working on a port to the Origin 200. While still in it's early stages, it's running in uniprocessor and multiprocessor mode and has drivers for the built-in IOC3 Ethernet and SCSI hostadapters. 
19:00 < huebi> kool
19:01 < fake> *flenn*
19:01 < huebi> fake: kannst du da nicht einfach mitmachen?
19:05 < fake> huebi: ohne hardware?
19:05 < huebi> fake: Exact!
19:05 < huebi> SGI kann mal so einen account zur Verfuegung stellen 
19:06 < huebi> ll
19:07 < fake> huebi: klar. oder mir so ne kiste schenken. oder 5.
19:07 < huebi> Warum willst du die selber haben?
19:08 < huebi> Lass SGI mit den Problemen doch alleine. Nur schoen benutzen, dann kostet es dich nichts.
19:09 < fake> huebi: klar! aber dann brauche ich 2 accounts. und sie muessen den reset-schalter an der origin an den LPT der anderen kiste loeten, damit ich ienen reset fahren kann wenn ich nen scheisskernel kompiliert habe.
19:10 < fake> und andere user duerfen auf der origin auch nicht drauf sein, weil ich die sonst regelmaessig mit reboots rauswerfe.
19:10 < fake> -> ich hab ne kiste fuer mich alleine -> wieso sollte die bei denen stehen und nicht bei mir?
19:10 < huebi> Dann 2 grosse Oktain
19:11 < fake> octains != linux IIRC
19:11 < fake> octane
19:11 < fake> du verwirrst mich ;P
19:12 < huebi> <- keine Ahnung vom MIPS ;-)
19:12 < huebi> fake = god of MIPS
19:12 < fake> huebi: lass uns realistisch bleiben. sun gibt dir auch keinen acc auf ner starcat nur weil du porten willst.
19:12 < fake> I AM NO GOD!
19:13 < fake> "Ich bin in einer finsteren sekte... die in mir die erkenntnis weckte... das unsere kurze daseinsfrist mehr spass macht wenn man boese ist... "
19:14 < huebi> SUN ist ein nicht besonders kundenorientiertes Unternehmen mit gewissen Qualitaetschemen, die nicht unbedingt die Kundenzufriedenheit foerdern. Um es mal ganz vorsichtig und diplomatisch zu umschreiben.
19:14 < fake> huebi: rate mal warum es bis jetzt nur FrameBuffer-unterstuetzung auf der indy mit 8-bit Grafikkarte gibt?!
19:16 < huebi> Diese Firmen haben, in Gegensatz zu IBM, noch nicht begriffen, dass Linux ein nicht zu unterschaetzender Markfaktor ist, der auch noch starke Zuwachsraten aufweist.
19:16 < fake> weil nur diese und _nur_ diese doku freiegenem wurde
19:16 < fake> huebi: IBM hat den Linux-Support fuer Thinkpads eingesetllt.
19:18 < huebi> Deshalb habe ich auch vom dem Kauf eines A30 fuer ueber 500 EUR Abstand genommen. hehe
19:18 < huebi> +0
19:18 < fake> A30?
19:19 < huebi> Irgend so ein Monster mit 1600x1200 1.3 GHz P3, 1GB RAM...
19:20 < fake> w00t.
19:20 < huebi> War im Dezember. Ich tendiere lieber zum Powerbook G4. Aber ich brauche eigendlich kein Notebook.
19:25 < fake> wie kein notebook brauchen - jeder brauch ein notebook ;)
19:25 < huebi> IBM ist mir zu bloed.
19:26 * fake still looking for a MIPS notebook
19:26 < fake> casiopeia hab ich scon ;) in der arbeit zumindest
19:26 < huebi> Die haben bei meiner letzten Anfrage ueber 6 wochen gebraucht, bis ein Angebot da war.
19:27 < fake> wer "die" ?
19:27 < huebi> VISA Card Gold scheint ueberall 66 EUR zu kosten.
19:27 < huebi> die = IBM
19:30 < fake> achso.
19:30 * huebi baut gerade eine neue .config fuer den sparc64 kernel zusammen.
19:30 < fake> wieso willst du den VisaCrd Gold?
19:31 < huebi> fake: billigere Hotels und Reise- und Auslandskrankenversicherung
19:32 < huebi> Und der Kreditrahmen hoert nicht schon bei 5000EUR auf.
19:33 < huebi> P4 im Notebook macht aus dem Ding ein Heizkraftwerk.
19:35 < fake> huebi: bist du so oft unterwegs dass isch das lohnt?
19:36 < huebi> Eigendlich nicht. Naja, ich ueberlege da noch ein bischen.
19:37 < huebi> http://www.apple.com/de/powerbook/specs.html <- hmm. ist schon ganz schoen verfuehrerrisch ;-)
19:38 < huebi> aber nur eine Maustaste. Da muss dann noch mal die CNC Fraes ran..
19:38 < fake> hmhm...
19:39 < huebi> Schoene Seite. Ohne dieses eklige Marketinggeschwafel.
19:47 < huebi> Der Supportvertrag taugt aber nicht so viel.
19:49 < fake> wieso?
19:49 < huebi> Eine einfache Garantieverlaengerung. Wenn das Geraet mal hinfaellt, muss ich es selber bezahlen
19:52 < huebi> Dell ist da um einiges besser. Alles wird bei denen vor Ort repariert. Aber die geraete sind bei weitem nicht so gut wie das PB
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19:55 < fake> stimmt...
19:55 < fake> aber fuer D is das doch ne normale "Garantie"
19:59 < huebi> Mein HP Omnibook ist seit 20 Monaten defekt. Ich habe immer noch kein Notbook gebraucht. Ist fuer mich eher nur ein schoenes Spielzeug.
20:11 -!- [anders] [~guest@62.3.122.161] has joined #rocklinux
20:11 < [anders]> re all
20:11 < fake> hi [anders] 
20:11 < huebi> hi [anders] 
20:11 < [anders]> re fake huebi 
20:12 < [anders]> What's happening? :)
20:12 * huebi testing a new .config for the kernel 
20:12 < huebi> for sparc64
20:13 < [anders]> aaahh...
20:13 < [anders]> I hope to be able to order kit for a ia32 workstation (Athlon based) next weekend..
20:15 < fake> what kit?
20:16 < [anders]> shuttle SS40G, XP1900+ and 512MB RAM.. DVD/CDRW, 80GB disk and an FDD.. :)
20:18 < fake> sweet!
20:18 < [anders]> I thought so too.. and I'll get a 17.1" TFT (1280x1024) screen to go with it.. ;-)
20:21 < fake> how much is that?
20:26 < [anders]> uhm, the screen is about £500 I think..
20:26 < huebi> [anders]: What about a dual Athlon?
20:27 < [anders]> huebi: I am a little restricted for space, hence the Shuttle box..
20:28 < [anders]> When I can afford the space, I'll have a look at a dual or quad Hammer..
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20:39 < huebi> [anders]: I wait for the AMD 64-Bit CPUs. The Dual XP1800+ must last till then.
20:39 < huebi> hi bluefire 
20:39 < [anders]> huebi: The Hammer is the AMD is64 arch..
20:41 < huebi> [anders]: jo
20:42 * fake is also waiting for the hammer
20:42 < bluefire> re
20:43 < [anders]> So single AMD will have to do for me until I can arrange the space for a two or four way Hammer..
20:50 < huebi> the hammer will be faster than the itanium. hehe
21:17 < fake> really?
21:17 < fake> well... in MHz, yes.
21:17 < huebi> I read so in Linux Enterprise Magazin. Intel licensed the Hammer.
21:21 < fake> sw33t ;)
21:22 < huebi> indeed
21:39 < huebi> ok. now the kernel compiles manually. at the next I test the rock build of it.
21:42 < huebi> compile failed
21:43 * huebi searching
21:43 < fake> make[1]: *** [xbootparam_prot.stmp] Segmentation fault
21:43 < fake> o_O
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21:59 < huebi> The 18:24 < ungrzna> [18:17:22] <AF2k> DAS macht das OS wieder instabiel, was meinst du warum windows immer abstuerst? ;)
21:59 < huebi> 18:24 < ungrzna> [18:17:42] <AF2k> es macht keinen sinn, wenn man immer RPM's, DEB's etc. benutzt
21:59 < huebi> 18:24 < ungrzna> [18:17:46] <AF2k> dann kann man bei win bleiben
21:59 < huebi> 18:24 < ungrzna> [18:17:51] <AF2k> der sinn von linux ist OPEN SOURCE
21:59 < huebi> 18:24 < ungrzna> [18:17:57] <AF2k> das man sich die .tar.gz files laed
21:59 < huebi> Au weia!
21:59 < chrisime> hoi huebi
21:59 < huebi> hi chrisime 
22:00 < huebi> AF2k braucht unbedingt ROCK Liunx
22:00 < huebi> jup! kernel compiled
22:01 < huebi> next test
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22:08 < huebi> root@rock:/rock-linux # cp -avf /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err /var/tmp/
22:08 < huebi> cp: overwrite `/var/tmp/3-alsa.err'? 
22:09 < huebi> hmm. should be fixed.
22:09 < huebi> root@rock:/rock-linux # /bin/cp -avf /rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err /var/tmp/
22:09 < huebi> `/rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/3-alsa.err' -> `/var/tmp/3-alsa.err'
22:09 < huebi> with absolute path it works.
22:13 < huebi> make -j8 -j1 -C video fastdep
22:13 < huebi> The make options are also fixed now ;-)
22:15 < huebi> ... und uebrig bleibt ein Mund voll Asche!
22:15 < huebi> Asche
22:15 < huebi> Asche
22:15 < huebi> Asche
22:16 < huebi> Ich komm wieder in 10 Tagen...
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22:16 < chrisime> tst
22:16 < huebi> Aschew zu Asche ... und Staub zu Staub...
22:17 < fake> Rammstein ;)
22:17 < huebi> ;-)))))
22:17 < huebi> nachhern mal ins Terminus fahren ;-))
22:18 < huebi> Da wir Samstags nur so was gesoielt.
22:18 < fake> :(
22:18 < huebi> fake: hae?
22:18 < chrisime> is der film Nico gut
22:18 < huebi> s/gesoielt/gespielt/
22:18 < chrisime> kenn den irgendwie
22:18 < chrisime> kommt grad im tv
22:18 < chrisime> (TVKarte sei dank)
22:18 < fake> dann bin ich wieder allein im channel ;)
22:19 < huebi> fake: na wenn ueberhaupt, dann so in 3-4 h erst.
22:20 < huebi> Wilder wein vor deinem Schloss
22:21 < fake> huebi: und?
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22:23 < huebi> ja ich weiss noch nicht. Wenn ich noch ein Bier trinkr fahre ich da nicht mehr hin ;-)
22:23 < Mike2> Hi
22:23 < huebi> hi Miguel. Nice to see you ;-))
22:23 < Mike2> thanks same here
22:23 < Mike2> whats latest relaeaso of 1.5 tree?
22:23 < Mike2> -o
22:24 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B54d4.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux
22:24 < owl> hi
22:24 < huebi> hi owl ;-)))
22:24 < Mike2> hi owl
22:24 < Mike2> brb
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22:28 < huebi> re Mike2 
22:29 < huebi> hi Freak 
22:29 < Mike2> re
22:29 < Mike2> someasshole is using my nick Mike1, how do i get him out so i can identify with nickserv??
22:29 * Mike2 not so gut with irc commands
22:32 < bluefire> Mike2: //msg nickserv help?
22:32 < bluefire> Only one / though
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22:37 < Mike1> hehe
23:04 < fake> >
23:04 < fake> >_<
23:05 < Mike1> hi fake
23:05 < fake> hi Mike1
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