--- Log opened Tue Jun 25 00:00:14 2002
--- Day changed Tue Jun 25 2002
00:00 < tsa> hehe
00:01 < esden> kk
00:01 < esden> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/alpha/
00:01 < esden> bit updated
00:01 < huebi> I must have a look if there was no SUN workstation in the trunk which is now badly broken...
00:01 < esden> but I have still a lot to do with this page
00:02 < huebi> esden: nice!
00:02 * -> esden will send an e-mail to cliff that he grabbed the page ;-)
00:03 < esden> hmm ... copyright sollte ich auch klauen ... *FG*
00:03 < esden> haha ... dass ist festverdrahtet
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00:08 < th> huebi: noe war nix
00:10 < esden> huebi: what have you done ??
00:10 < esden> why is you rtunk broken ??
00:10 < esden> ahh ...
00:10 < esden> hmm ... scrollback ;-)
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01:16 < huebi> n8
01:17 < tsa> cu huebi
01:18 < esden> cu huebi 
01:18 < fake> n8 huebi !
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01:33 < the][owl> re
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02:04 < owl> g8. bye.
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07:42 < huebi> moin
09:39 < esden> moin @ all
09:39 < esden> huebi ?
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09:47 < esden> hi tsa 
09:47 < tsa> moin.,
09:48 < tsa> hi esden
09:48 * tsa updating openssh packages..
09:48 * -> esden asking himself why nobody answered the mail from preanti
09:49 * -> esden wrote an answer now ... I hope to see more from this design he proposes
09:58 < th> moin
09:58 < esden> moin th 
09:59 < huebi> re
10:00 < esden> re huebi 
10:00 < esden> bit updated: http://www.rocklinux.org/projects/alpha/
10:00 < huebi> *click*
10:03 < th> irgendwie bin ich muede
10:03 < th> 03:46:36 [OPN] -!- You have been marked as being away
10:03 < th> das is wohl der grund
10:03 < huebi> th ;-)
10:03 < th> naja - wozu gibt es schliesslich club-mate...
10:03 < esden> th: hmm ... ja dass kann schon sein
10:04 < esden> th: wo kriegst denn mate her L
10:04 < esden> ?
10:04 < th> ausserdem bin ich, wenn ich ein wenig muede bin, am telefon freundlicher. ich sollte ein paar kundengespraeche fuehren die noch ausstehen
10:04 < th> esden: im endeffekt aus berlin
10:04 < esden> ach mennoo ...
10:05 < th> esden: wo wohnst du denn?
10:05 < esden> in ingolstadt
10:05 < th> wo ist das?
10:05 < esden> dass ist eine stunde noerdlich von muenchen
10:05 < huebi> * If you need a working backup software write it yourself.
10:05 < th> na dann ab nach muench-steinach
10:05 < th> huebi: ack ack ack
10:05 < th> esden: du sitzt ja foermlich an der quelle
10:05 < esden> huh ....
10:06 < esden> cool
10:06 < esden> gibt es da ne webseite ?
10:06 < esden> oder so ?
10:06 < th> mal schaun.
10:06 < th> glaub schon
10:06 < esden> wo ich ne adresse/anfahrt finde ?
10:06 < th> http://www.club-mate.de/
10:06 < esden> *click*
10:06 < th> die kiste a 20 flaschen a .5liter fuer ~13EURO 
10:07 < th> in berlin kostet die 17EURO
10:08 < th> Brauerei Loscher
10:08 < th> Steigerwaldstr. 21-23
10:08 < th> D - 91481 Mu"nchsteinach
10:08 < th> Tel. +49 9166-607
10:10 < th> esden: kennst du leute, die irgendwie regelmaessig von dir richtung norden fahren?
10:10 < th> esden: ich wuerde sehr gern ein paar kisten von da unten haben aber die fahrt ist zu weit
10:12 < esden> ich glaube nicht dass muenchsteinach in der naehe ist ...
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10:12 < esden> die ganzen namen kommen mir so unbekannt vor ...
10:12 < esden> hi Freak 
10:12 * -> esden braucht ne karte
10:13 < Freak> huhu
10:14 < th> esden: www.mapblast.de
10:16 < th> 50km nord-westlich von nuernberg
10:17 < esden> ahh ....
10:17 < esden> ok
10:17 < esden> dann ist es sozusagen erreichbar
10:17 < th> du hast es gut :-/
10:17 < esden> ich muss mal mich da hinbegeben
10:17 < th> und wie bringst du es SMP und mir?
10:18 < esden> ich weiss nicht ...
10:18 < esden> also ..
10:18 < huebi> ueber die relaistation huebi *g*
10:18 < huebi> ?
10:18 < huebi> via fake
10:18 < esden> ich koennte vielleicht eich mal besuchen und dann paar kaesten vorbeibringen
10:18 < esden> oder so
10:18 < esden> @ huebi 
10:18 < esden> der faehrt ja regelmaessig
10:19 < th> ich komm nicht mehr hinterher
10:19 < esden> aber ich habe eh lust gehabt ende juli mal nen ausflug zu machen und paar leute zu besuchen
10:19 < th> wer faehrt wohin regelmaessig?
10:19 < esden> der fake faehrt regelmaessig nach bonn
10:19 < esden> der kammt an huebi vorbei
10:20 < esden> da kann er mate abladen
10:20 < esden> und von huebi dann weiter
10:21 < th> huebi: wohin faehrst du denn regelmaessig?
10:22 < th> bzw. fragen wir anders: wohin kannst du denn regelmaessige transporte ermoeglichen?
10:22 < huebi> Ich habe eine Mutter in BS. da fahre ich, wenn ueberhaupt, aber hoechstens einmal im Jahr hin
10:22 < th> einmal im jahr is zu selten. BS waere ntuerlich ideal :)
10:22 < esden> sehr regelmaessig huebi ;-)
10:23 < th> huebi: ziehst du aufgrund der neuen hauptstadt denn nicht auch irgendwann nach berlin?
10:24 < esden> aber diese brauerei macht auch frei haus lieferungen ...
10:24 < esden> ;-)
10:24 < th> esden: bis hin zu dir?
10:24 < esden> th: vielleicht auch zu dir ?? ;-)
10:24 < th> esden: nein das tut sie nicht
10:24 < huebi> th: Im Rhein Main Gebiet gibt es mehr zu verdienen ;-)
10:25 < th> huebi: ich weiss ;-/
10:25 < esden> nee zu mir nicht ...
10:25 < th> esden: dann wohl zu mir erst recht nicht
10:25 < esden> vielleicht kann man es irgendwie mit denen absprechen ...
10:25 < th> naja bonn waere schonmal besser als ingolstadt/muenchsteinach
10:26 < esden> th: dann musst du es mit fake absprechen ob der dass machen wuerde
10:26 < th> los huebig! hab doch mal ne idee wie das bis WR kommt
10:27 < esden> machen wir ein mate lieferdienst geschaeft auf
10:27 < esden> wir verteilen auch dann jolt
10:27 < esden> und water joe
10:28 < praenti> moin
10:28 < esden> moin praenti 
10:28 < esden> praenti: hast ne mail von mir ... an rock-doc-pr bekommen
10:28 < praenti> esden: merci
10:31 < praenti> esden: das zeugs macht der brandl. ann also ein bißchen dauern bis wieder was zu sehen ist
10:32 < praenti> s/ann/kann
10:32 < esden> der brandl ?? .... hehe
10:33 < praenti> jo. hab ihn mal so nebenbei gefragt ob er unsere hp redesignen mag. so a bissal richtung gentoo
10:34 < esden> cool ...
10:34 < esden> ja dann soll er weiter machen ... 
10:34 < esden> siehst du den oefters ?
10:34 < esden> ich habe den vor kurzem im bitz getroffen
10:34 < esden> praenti: hast du dir meine monster mail ueber gentoo angetan ?
10:35 < praenti> esden: jepp. werde demnächst auch mal testen
10:35 < esden> ja mache dass
10:35 < esden> ich habe eine kiste im bitz dazu vergewaltigt
10:36 < praenti> esden: die is glaub ich vom erdi gestern platt gemacht worden. weiß ich aber nicht genau. ich weiß nur dass ich das net.eth0 mal schnel in net.eth0.old umbenannt hab, weil die net starten wollte
10:37 < esden> ja stimmt ... da war was faul
10:38 < esden> aber teste gentoo auch dass lohnt sich ... wir haben mit benji uns echt totgelacht die ganze zeit ;-)
10:38 < praenti> da is jetzt aber ne andere 3com drin. muss mal die nächsten tage testen obs dann geht
10:39 < esden> habt's ihr umgebaut ?
10:39 < esden> die cd sollte auch noch im bitz flacken
10:39 < praenti> der erdi hat mal schenll durchgetauscht
10:39 < esden> ich habe die vergessen mitzunehmen
10:39 < praenti> ohh. cool
10:39 < esden> und leider ist die auch nicht beschriftet
10:39 < esden> sie sollte irgendwo neben dem radio liegen
10:40 < esden> praenti: wann bist im bitz ?
10:40 < esden> heute vielleicht
10:40 < praenti> esden: eher weniger. ich spring evtl nur kurz nach der fh rein
10:40 < esden> ok dann schaue nach der cd
10:40 < esden> dass die nicht verschwindet
10:41 < praenti> so ca. 18:00 uhr
10:41 < esden> scheisse toll
10:41 < esden> vim will nicht compiliren
10:41 < praenti> was?
10:41 < esden> auf der alpha
10:42 < esden> hmm ... vielleicht bin ich auch dann da ...
10:42 < esden> mal sehen 
10:43 < praenti> wie heißts so schön: schau ma mal
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10:43 < bluefire> Moin allesamt
10:44 < esden> praenti: genau
10:44 < esden> hi bluefire 
10:45 < praenti> moin bluefire 
10:46 < huebi> moin bluefire 
10:47 < praenti> moin huebi
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10:47 < huebi> hi praenti 
10:49 * -> esden co rock-1.5
10:50 < esden> how can aszlig loose his terminal ???
10:51 < th> esden: ich hoffe dein CVSROOT stimmt?
10:51 < esden> huebi: welches ist dass script um die rechte in dem tree zu korrigieren ?
10:51 < esden> th: ???
10:51 < th> esden: checke mal noch tools aus
10:51 < huebi> esden: kein script. das ist alles im Repository geaendert.
10:51 < esden> cvs -z3 -d:ext:esden@cvs.rocklinux.de:/home/rockcvs/cvs/ co rock-1.5
10:52 < esden> @ th
10:52 < th> esden: jo genau ;)
10:52 < th> huebi: tools/repair.sh geistert aber auch noch rum
10:52 < esden> uiii huebi coool
10:52 < esden> huebi: ich mache dann mal dass repair raus oder ?
10:53 < esden> wenn ich schon dabei bin
10:53 < esden> oder willst es drinnen lassen ?
10:53 < huebi> th: Jo, aber ich wollte genau davon los kommen und habe deshalb im repository die Dateiberechtigungen korrigiert.
10:54 < praenti> cool @huebi
10:54 < huebi> esden: loesche es einfach. Das stiftet sonst nur Verwirrung
10:54 < esden> ja ich mache dann es raus und mache nen ci
10:55 < th> esden: ein ci?????
10:55 < huebi> Die ROCK scripte sind fast alle umgebaut, so dass die CVS Verzeichnisse nicht mehr stoeren. Ein bischen ist noch da, aber davon dann mehr naechste Woche. Ich muss hier ein Backup zum laufen kriegen und das muss bis heute abend wieder laufen.
10:56 * th muiss ersma weg
10:57 < huebi> th: rm tools/repair.sh; cvs rm tools/repair.sh; cvs ci -m "not nessesary anymore. ROCK Linux is now CVS save" tools/repair.sh
11:00 < esden> Removing repair.sh;
11:00 < esden> /home/rockcvs/cvs/tools/repair.sh,v  <--  repair.sh
11:00 < esden> new revision: delete; previous revision: 1.2
11:00 < esden> done
11:00 < huebi> esden: Dankoe!
11:00 < esden> huebi: bidde ;-)
11:00 * -> esden hat eine destruktive phase ;-)
11:02 * -> esden sucking the sources
11:02 < huebi> * esden is cracking the homepage of gentoo
11:02 < esden> huebi: MUAHAHAHA
11:03 * -> esden wanst more comments on his gentoo test !!!
11:03 * -> esden wants to see blood on the rlml
11:10 < esden> argh .. I have killed my x >_<
11:11 < esden> and I had no screen open on natalie
11:17 < blindcoder> hi hi und rehi
11:17 < praenti> hi blindcoder 
11:18 < huebi> hi blindcoder 
11:18 < tsa> Grr....
11:19 < esden> hi blindcoder 
11:19 < tsa> openssh-3.3 doesn't work on linux 2.2.x
11:19 < esden> tsa: ???
11:19 < huebi> moin tsa 
11:19 < esden> tsa: why ?
11:19 < tsa> hi huebi
11:19 < huebi> th: Why
11:19 < tsa> esden: problems with the mmap implemtation
11:19 < tsa> Jun 25 10:02:41 orwell sshd[29675]: fatal: mmap(65536): Invalid argument
11:19 < esden> >_<
11:20 < tsa> it's a known problem, see http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285
11:20 < esden> tsa: upgrade to 2.4.19-gentoo-rev2 ;-)
11:20 < praenti> th: kannst du mal wieder im /tmp ein paar dirs von dir rauslöschen. ich bekomm schon wieder noc space left on device
11:21 < praenti> s/noc/no
11:22 < huebi> praenti: habe fertig ;-)
11:22 < praenti> huebi: was?
11:22 < esden> my alpha needs more ram and a faster processor >_<
11:22 < tsa> esden: hm?
11:22 < huebi> praenti: rm -rf /tmp/cvs*
11:22 < esden> i will get mad !!!
11:23 < huebi> esden: You are mad *ggg*
11:23 < praenti> huebi: ok.thx
11:23 < esden> tsa: i am downloading the sources ... my baby needs to much time to generate the chksum'-
11:23 < esden> s
11:23 < tsa> hehe
11:23 < esden> huebi: yes I know
11:24 < esden> tsa: I have not even started to compile ... and this box seems to be a turtle
11:24 < esden> I want the ds20 from holyolli
11:25 < huebi> esden: Start more downloads
11:25 < huebi> esden: Or use a faster machine for the downloads.
11:25 < esden> hmm ... ok
11:25 < esden> yes I know ...
11:25 < huebi> esden: and copy it over to the alpha.
11:25 < esden> yepp
11:26 < huebi> 4 download on the dual AMD XP take about 17 min IIRC
11:26 < huebi> +s
11:30 < esden> what connection ?
11:30 < huebi> 100MBit Full Duplex from a local ftp on rocklinux.dyndns.org ;-)
11:31 < huebi> then I only have to download things once over dsl
11:32 < esden> ok ... then I can imagine that it is 17 mins
11:34 < huebi> I don't like waiting for the stuff. I copy all the new packages over to ella and then I have it all everytime with speed handy.
11:37 < blindcoder> okay... another try at compiling ROCK with the Build-CD ...
11:37 < huebi> blindcoder: nice to hear that.
11:39 < blindcoder> hmm ncurses still doesn't work... "Error opening terminal: linux"
11:40 < esden> blindcoder: what is this problem ... I have never seen it before ...
11:41 < blindcoder> terminfo doesn't recognize the terminal-type in use...
11:41 < blindcoder> or better: it has no idea how it has to be handled
11:42 < esden> hmm  no good
11:42 < huebi> blindcoder: ltrace, strace?
11:43 < blindcoder> hmm i will try that... just have to restart because of stupidity
11:44 < esden> blindcoder: was heisst dass japanische  "so"  oder wie man dass schreiben soll in deutsch ?
11:45 < blindcoder> hmm in welchem zusammenhang?
11:46 < blindcoder> wird meistens verwendet wie: "Aha" "Achso"
11:46 < blindcoder> kann aber auch Opferschrein heissen
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11:56 < esden> blindcoder: danke
11:56 < esden> very insightfull: http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/24/1556244&mode=nocomment&tid=163
12:24 < blindcoder> huebi: I think I found it: /usr/share/terminfo is an empty directory instead of a symlink to /usr/lib/terminfo
12:25 < huebi> blindcoder: Can you find out why it's in this way?
12:26 < blindcoder> probably because I did a cp -r /cdrom/* /trg
12:26 < blindcoder> seems like I missed some parameters
12:27 < blindcoder> yes, I should use -R instead of -r
12:28 < blindcoder> -R treats special files like devices and links...
12:30 < esden> re hi all
12:30 < esden> I hate the net here
12:30 < blindcoder> esden: router died again?
12:30 < esden> blindcoder: I said that you should use cp -a not cp -r
12:31 < blindcoder> esden: hai, hai... I've seen my mistake...
12:31 < esden> good
12:31 < esden> ;-)
12:33 < esden> *jump* *jump* *jump* I WANT THIS BURNER !!! http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/computer/extra/products/crwf1/crwf1.html
12:33 < esden> here better photo's : http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20020622/etc_disctat2.html
12:35 < blindcoder> a, now i know why you wanted to know "so" :D
12:36 * -> esden is asking himself if it would be possible to create an iso that when burned create's a simmilar effect ...
12:36 < esden> blindcoder: noo .. I have heard some japanese on the street here
12:37 < esden> and one of them was crying around so so so ...
12:37 < blindcoder> maybe he was pissed >_<
12:38 < blindcoder> just like me right now... ERDI!!!! *CRY* GIMME THE !§"$% BIOS-PASSWORD!!!
12:39 < blindcoder> good boy ;)
12:39 < esden> rofl
12:40 < tsa> argh
12:40 < tsa> postfix sucks.
12:43 < esden> blindcoder: ich habe endlich wieder spam assasin bei mir laufen
12:43 < blindcoder> na toll... dann geht der apollo wieder in die knie :D
12:44 < blindcoder> mkfs.ext2 -ccj /dev/discs/disc0/part2
12:44 < blindcoder> das wird dauern >_<
12:44 < esden> naja ... sonnst langweilt er sich noch ...
12:44 < esden> ccj ???
12:44 < esden> j weiss ich 
12:44 < blindcoder> c=bad sector check cc=read/write bad sector check
12:44 < esden> ext3
12:44 < blindcoder> j=journal
12:44 < esden> ahh
12:44 < esden> kk
12:44 < tsa> ah
12:45 < tsa> wieder was gelernt..
12:45 < esden> is the disk corrupted ?
12:45 < esden> tsa: in this channel you learn all the time ;-)
12:45 < blindcoder> Let me put it this way: I'm thinking about opening it "und es zu den anderen an die wand zu nageln"
12:46 < esden> blindcoder: >_<
12:46 < blindcoder> tons of kernel error messages
12:46 < blindcoder> and loud knocking noises from the disk
12:46 < esden> ohh goood ...
12:47 < esden> be aware of flying harddisk parts ;-)
12:47 * blindcoder hides behind the coffee machine
12:47 < blindcoder> hmm no this is no good hiding
12:47 < esden> NOT THE COFFEE MACHINE
12:47 < esden> hide the coffee machine behind you
12:47 * blindcoder builds a barrier of empty Jolt Colas and hides behind it with the coffee machine
12:47 < tsa> esden: i know...
12:47 < esden> it is more importaint ;-)
12:48 < esden> blindcoder: better so ;-)
12:52 < fake> mornin
12:52 < blindcoder> moin fake
12:53 < esden> hi fake!!!
12:53 < esden> ... *another_jump_around* hardware divx decoder for 99$ !!!!
12:53 < esden> coool ... wanna have !
12:54 < esden> but please as a pcmcia card ;-)
12:54 < blindcoder> esden: amount of money to pay blindcoder: 250 EUR
12:58 < esden> *cry* *heul* *winsel*
12:58 < esden> *jammer*
13:00 < esden> "JHM wonders what Joey did to earn "I'd just like to say, for the record, that Joey rules." -- Seen on #Debian
13:00 < esden> *rofl*
13:00 < esden> yes that is right ...
13:00 < esden> joey rulez
13:01 < blindcoder> who is joey?
13:02 < tsa> martin schulze
13:02 < tsa> debian guy, orga staff linuxtag
13:03 < blindcoder> ic
13:03 * blindcoder thinks about kicking "someone" around for taking too much time... ME HUNGRY! ME WANT KENTUCKY!
13:06 < esden> erdi ???
13:08 < blindcoder> yes
13:08 < huebi> blindcoder: KENTUCKY chried ficken?
13:09 < huebi> or so
13:09 < blindcoder> huebi: sure ;) *schrei*
13:10 < blindcoder> fake: did you already get that URL with the HP FileServer?
13:10 < huebi> hehe
13:14 < blindcoder> ah there he is *hehe*
13:20 < fake> so. wieder mal 20.000 
13:21 < fake> Mails geloescht
13:21 < huebi> fake: weia ;-)
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13:22 < huebi> hi aszlig 
13:22 < fake> Mail/IN.dev.null und Mail/IN.admin ;)
13:22 < fake> blindcoder: unfortunately not. i will call him again later today.
13:23 * fake smoking
13:23 < aszlig> hullo
13:26 < th> 13:24:52 < huebi> th: rm tools/repair.sh; cvs rm tools/repair.sh; cvs ci -m "not nessesary anymore. ROCK Linux 
13:26 < th>                   is now CVS save" tools/repair.sh
13:26 < th> huebi: do you mean s,ci,com,???
13:27 < huebi> ci = commit
13:27 < th> oups?
13:27 < huebi> co = checkout
13:28 < th> ich kannte nur com als abkuerzung fuer commit. ci klingt so nach checkin
13:28 < th> dann nehme ich natuerlich alles zurueck und behaupte das gegenteil
13:28 < esden> scheiss regen ... ich kann mich jetzt hier nicht wegbewegen biss es aufhoert ... 
13:28 < esden> grrr
13:29 < th> hier scheint die sonne
13:29 < esden> th: schoen fuer dich >_<
13:29 < huebi> hier auch
13:29 < th> ein transport koeln > magdeburg > wernigerode von mathe waere kein problem
13:29 < esden> toll jungs ... glueckspilze
13:30 < th> s,mathe,mate,
13:32 < fake> hier is auch schoen sonnig
13:32 < fake> "schoen"
13:37 < esden> mensch ... ich habe dann nur so ein scheiss wetter dass ich ueber mich ergehen lassen muss
13:37 < fake> lieber regen als zu heiss.
13:37 < esden> naja ... wenn ich einen regenschirm/mantel haette wuerde ich dass wetter auch schoen finden ...
13:37 < huebi> echo 1 > esden:/dev/sonne
13:38 < huebi> esden: besser jetzt?
13:38 < esden> *plink* .... ohh sonne ist angegangen
13:38 < esden> huebi sprach es werde licht ... ;-)
13:38 < esden> danke huebi ... aber es regnet immer noch ... 
13:39 < huebi> hmm. Da haben die elektriker wieder gepfuscht. Kein Strom da...
13:40 < esden> nicht gut ... :-(
13:41 < esden> meine mutter muss schon echt ne kriese kriegen ... denn die platte von der natalie muss auf hochturen laufen ... ;-)
13:42 < fake> touren
13:42 < huebi> steht 'natalie' in der Kueche?
13:42 < fake> huebi: steht seine Mutter in der Kueche?
13:42 < huebi> fake: Nee, die sitzt jetz garantiert im Garten.
13:42 < huebi> +t
13:43 < fake> huebi: esden hat keinen garten. aber nen swimmingpool und ne saune
13:43 < huebi> natalie ist wasserdicht und hitzebestaendig!
13:43 < esden> die tuer von meinem zimmer sind offen ...
13:43 < fake> ist offen ;)
13:44 < huebi> zimmern ;-)
13:44 < th> tueren
13:44 < esden> und meine mutter sitzt bestimmt im wohnzimmer .. und dass ist einen meter von der tuer von meinem zimmer entfernt
13:44 < esden> loool
13:45 < esden> also ... ihr seid eindeutig zweideutig ;-)
13:45 < fake> wo?
13:45 < huebi> bei mir sind noch Schlafzimmer und Kinderzimmer bis zum Wohnzimmer dazwischen. Das Klappern von der Tastatur stoert aber am meisten.
13:46 < huebi> zweideutig != doppeldeutig ...um hier mal ein paar Haare zu spalten *g*
13:48 < esden> huebi: solltest sagen hare in doppel zu spalten oder so ...
13:48 < fake> wie kann ich beim gcc3-configure java abschalten?
13:48 < esden> dann waehre der satz perfekt ;-)
13:48 < th> eher in haelften
13:48 < fake> --without-gcj ?
13:48 < esden> th: ja dass ist gut
13:49 < esden> also : zweideutig != doppeldeutig ...um hier mal ein paar Haare in zwei haelften zu spalten
13:49 < th> fake: du faehrst hin und wieder von esden richtung bonn?
13:49 < esden> ist dass besser so ?
13:49 < fake> th> ja... ?
13:50 < th> fake: das waere ein sehr wertvoller teil einer mate-versorgungsstrecke
13:50 < huebi> "Es gibt keine groessere oder kleinere Haelfte. Aber die groessere Haelfte von euch glaubt mir ja sowieso nicht." - Irgendein Mathelehrer.
13:50 < th> hehe
13:50 < esden> lol 
13:51 < fake> --disable-libgcj
13:51 < fake> Specify that the run-time libraries used by GCJ should not be built.
13:51 < th> fake: faehrst du direkt nach bonn oder irgendwo nur in die richtung?
13:51 < esden> i have removed gcj after I run ../configure from the Makefile
13:52 < fake> th> quasi-direkt. ich wohne in hennef, arbeite in Sankt Augustin
13:52 < fake> esden: i want to do it "clean" ;P
13:53 < fake> th> fahre bei Kreuz Bonn/Siegburg von der A3 runter.
13:53 < esden> fake: ok ... 
13:53 < th> fake: koenntest du evtl. mate-kisten fuer abnehmer im bereich sachsen-anhalt (smp und ich) transportieren?
13:55 < th> fake: ich haette eine kontaktperson aus koeln, die sich dann mit dir in bonn oder wo auch immer trifft
13:55 < fake> von wo nach wo?
13:55 < th> fake: von esden (ingolstadt) nach bonn
13:55 < fake> esden hat mate?
13:55 < esden> ja werde ich haben
13:55 < th> fake: ich hab ihm heute gesagt wo er mate herkriegt ;)
13:55 < fake> woher?
13:55 < fake> WO WO WO?
13:55 < th> fake: direkt von der brauerei
13:56 < esden> die kriegt man in einer brauerei nahe nuernberg
13:56 < th> fake: muenchsteinach
13:56 < fake> die is doch in berlin?
13:56 < th> fake: NEIN
13:56 < th> fake: berlin ist nur eine vertriebsstelle
13:56 < fake> uiiii!
13:56 < fake> *freu*
13:56 < fake> Bayern RULEZ!
13:56 < th> fake: berlin will 17EURO meunchsteinach nur ~13EURO
13:56 < esden> fake: ja *auchfreu*
13:56 < esden> fake: sicher !!!
13:57 < esden> vielleicht wenn wir mehr abnehmen kriegen wir rabatt
13:57 < th> fake: und ich wuerde gerne eine versorgungsstrecke fuer geringe mengen mate von der brauerei nach sachsen-anhalt aufbauen
13:57 < fake> aber ich hab nur nen normalen PKW... o_O
13:57 < th> fake: wieviel kisten passen da rein?
13:57 < esden> ich werde mal den benji verdonnern mit seinem grossen und mir da einkaufen zu fahren
13:57 < fake> th> da liesse sich drueber reden.
13:57 < th> fake: sehr schoen
13:57 < fake> WegZoll: ein Kasten.
13:58 < fake> *gg*
13:58 < esden> rofl
13:58 < th> fake: kommt drauf an wieviel kisten du laden kannst ;) *eg*
13:58 < fake> Nein. die verteilung von mate ist ehrensache.
13:58 < esden> ICH HABE ES GEWUSST dass er es sagt 
13:58 < th> fake: sehr schoen
13:58 < fake> esden: was genau?
13:59 < esden> dass mit dem einen kasten zoll
13:59 < fake> das war ein scherz.
13:59 < esden> ich wusste dass du es sagst bevor du auch wusstest dass du mate transportieren willst ;-)
13:59 < esden> ja schon klar
13:59 < th> prima
13:59 < esden> aber ich wusste einfach dass du es sagen wirst 
13:59 < fake> esden - mein held!
14:00 < esden> fake: du bist durchschaubar ...
14:00 < th> esden: welche menge wirst du vorraussichtlich aus der brauerei holen?
14:00 < esden> ich habe es geschafft *jump*
14:00 < th> esden: hast du lagerraum?
14:00 < esden> th: so viel wie in einen alhambra reinpasst
14:00 < th> alhambra?
14:00 < esden> oder wie der minibuss auch wieder heisst
14:00 < th> unable to resolve "alhambra"
14:00 < fake> th> co-branded mitsubishi spacewaggon
14:01 < th> ahja
14:01 < fake> VW Sharan
14:01 < th> eine EU-palette sind 40 kisten
14:01 < fake> *ROFL*
14:01 < esden> ROFL
14:01 < fake> das nennst du KLEINE MENGEN?
14:01 < th> hehe
14:01 < esden> fake: dass ist fuer die nicht viel ... ;-)
14:01 < esden> glaube ich zumindest
14:01 < fake> aber fuer mein gefaehrt
14:02 < th> also hier (WR und md) werde ich 20 kisten recht schnell los
14:02 < th> 10 kisten sind allerdings das maximum fuer eine fahrt bonn<>MD
14:02 < fake> th> wo genau wohnst du?
14:02 < th> fake: magdeburg
14:02 < fake> das problem ist, dass ich mit jeder kiste mher benzin verbrauche...
14:02 < th> fake: kannst du das ueberschlagen?
14:03 < fake> hm... benin zahlt eigentlich mein AG. also is es nicht soo wild.
14:03 < fake> benzin
14:03 < th> lol
14:03 < th> cool
14:03 < fake> ich werd einfach mal gucken, ob ich's ueberhaupt merk.
14:04 < th> 1 kiste sind 10liter. 10 kisten sind also schon 100kg
14:05 < tsa> + tara
14:05 < esden> dass ist alsob eine person mehr fahren wuerde
14:05 < th> jo
14:05 < esden> ich meine eine grosse person ...
14:06 < fake> esden: ein blindcoder.
14:06 < fake> ;))
14:06 < esden> fake: jups ;-)
14:06 < esden> ein blindcoder bitte .. ;-)
14:06 < fake> naja, dann hab ich wenigstens ne bessere strassenlage M)
14:06 < esden> wir machen eine blindcoder vertriebsstrecke auf ;-)
14:06 < blindcoder> esden: du sprichst von mir?
14:07 < esden> blindcoder: ja 
14:07 < blindcoder> okay, the build-CD has reached Stage 2 successfully
14:07 < esden> wir vertreiben dich jetzt in sachsen anhalt
14:07 < blindcoder> und was will ich da oben?
14:07 < esden> als mate spoender dienen
14:07 < th> esden: wann steht die erste ladung in ingolstadt bereit?
14:07 < esden> ich weiss es noch nicht
14:07 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A68.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
14:08 < esden> blindcoder snucki willst du vielleicht bissel mate kaufen ?
14:08 < snyke> HUHU!!!
14:08 < blindcoder> nee net wirklich
14:08 < esden> die brauerei die es macht ist in der naehe von nuernberg
14:08 < blindcoder> ich muss jetzt irgendwie ROCK auf ner 350 MB Platte installieren
14:08 < esden> und ich muesste da hin ... mit nem grossen auto ...
14:09 < esden> ja ... ich habe nicht gesagt jetzt benji ...
14:09 < fake> also ich bin am WE in Ingolstadt
14:09 < esden> fake: super
14:09 < esden> dann muss ich diese woche noch irgendwie in die brauerei
14:09 < fake> hai.
14:10 < esden> und 11 oder 12 kisten kaufen
14:10 < th> meine kontaktperson (K<>MD) faehrt als naechstes am freitag ;)
14:10 < esden> aber mit dem polo schaffe ich es nicht ...
14:10 < th> das ist wohl ein wenig frueh
14:10 < blindcoder> fake: wie isses mit der URL?
14:10 < esden> glaube ich zumindest
14:10 < esden> es seidenn blindcoder hillft mir ...
14:10 < blindcoder> esden: dir is nich mehr zu helfen
14:11 < esden> blindcoder: danke ... :-(
14:11 < snyke> :(
14:11 < esden> hi snyke 
14:12 < fake> th: dann wuerde ich das gute zeug eben von Sonntag bis Freitag einlagern
14:12 < fake> th: schreib mal eine logistik-webapplication oder so.
14:12 < th> fake: es ist noch nicht gesagt, dass meine kontaktperson woechentlich faehrt. ich muss das noch genauer pruefen
14:13 < fake> th: kewl.
14:13 < snyke> *jump*
14:13 < snyke> hi esdi
14:13 < fake> *kick*
14:13 < fake> hi snyke!
14:13 < th> fake: wieviel kisten willst du denn fuer dich von esden zu dir transportieren?
14:13 < th> ich denke ich will 10kisten
14:14 < fake> th> ich denke ich werde erstmal sehen wie viele ich hineinbekomme. eine kiste der so wuerde ich gerne selbst kaufen, usw.
14:15 < huebi> 594 pts/0    DWN    2:26 [dmbr] <- Bloeder Mist! reboot ist angesagt
14:15 < th> auf jeden fall kann esden 12 kisten kaufen und fake guckt dann was er ins auto kriegt ;)
14:15 < fake> th: genau.
14:16 < huebi> fake: kannst du mir vielleicht auch ein vorbeibringen?
14:16 < huebi> +e
14:16 < snyke> hi fake!
14:17 < esden> ojemene ...
14:17 < esden> wir brauchen nen laster .. kaufen 3 - 4 paletten ... und dann fahren wir damit aller rocker ab ... 
14:17 < esden> nee einen vollen laster
14:18 < th> das rechnet sich doch nicht vom sprit her ;)
14:18 < esden> 3-4 paletten ist langweilig
14:18 < blindcoder> fake: *nochmalnervwegenfileserverURL*
14:18 < esden> blindcoder: nervel
14:18 < blindcoder> esden: und stolz darauf
14:19 < esden> :P
14:19 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD9E3364A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
14:19 < esden> hi th 
14:19 < esden> argh
14:19 < esden> hi term_emu 
14:20 < term_emu> hoi 
14:20 < huebi> wie steht das wm spiel?
14:21 < huebi> hier haben die Leute eine Fernseher aufgestellt und sind alle am glotzenn *g*
14:23 < blindcoder> shit... still 30 MB too large
14:23 < term_emu> huebi: 0:0
14:23 < esden> huebi .. ich glaube man sollte puzzle ausfuehren und dass im cvs updaten ...
14:24 < esden> ich habe vergessen vor dem download puzzle auszufuehren ... und dass war schreklich veraltet
14:24 < th> wm spiel? wer spielt denn?
14:28 < term_emu> deutschland gegen suedkorea
14:28 < th> aha
14:28 < th> d.h. halb deutschland sitzt vorm fernseher?
14:29 < tsa> th: aehm..ich fuerchte, es sind mehr..
14:29 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux
14:29 < Ge0rG> hi
14:29 < th> tach Ge0rG 
14:30 < th> Ge0rG: esden ist der provider ab ingolstadt, fake ist ingolstadt<>bonn transporter
14:31 < th> fake: esden: Ge0rG ist abnehmer in md und kontaktmann zum transporter koeln<>md
14:31 * Ge0rG hat babyface verständigt, zur weiteren kommunikation hierher zu kommen. da er im moment knapp bei kasse ist, weiss er noch nicht ob er wirklich kann.
14:31 < th> (und Ge0rG ist begeisterter rocker ;-> )
14:31 < Ge0rG> th: :-P
14:32 * Ge0rG war bestimmt fünf mal am rocklinux-stand aufm LT ;)
14:32 < th> Ge0rG: wirklich was kann?
14:32 < Ge0rG> th: den transport durchführen
14:32 < th> Ge0rG: welchen?
14:32 < th> Ge0rG: den am freitag? der is sowieso zu frueh
14:32 < Ge0rG> von bonn nach MD
14:32 < Ge0rG> ok, also diese woche noch keine frische mate...
14:32 < th> es kommen ja auch wieder bessere zeiten
14:32 < th> Ge0rG: leider nein.
14:33 < th> und ich hab nur noch 3 flaschen :-((
14:33 < Ge0rG> th: also wenns hart auf hart kommt, kannst du ein paar flaschen kriegen
14:33 * th hat schon angefangen "Apollinaris - Classic" zu trinken
14:33 < Ge0rG> aber nichts ist so gut wie das beruhigende gefühl, noch einen vollen kasten im keller zu haben
14:33 < th> hehe
14:36 < fake> hm... entweder kuerzt du stark ab oder mein client kann deine sprache nicht Ge0rG 
14:37 < fake> und hi ;)
14:37 < Ge0rG> hi fake
14:37 < fake> Software Achten Sie auf unseren Office XP Sparvorteil!
14:37 < fake> wow.
14:37 < fake> ich achte nicht, ich aechte.
14:38 < Ge0rG> fake: ich kläre gern aufgekommene missverständnisse
14:38 < fake> ich kl. mehr sehe ich da nicht
14:39 < th> fake: das muss an dir liegen
14:39 < fake> benutzt diu diese haesslichen umlaute?
14:39 < th> fake: ja
14:39 < huebi> 14:23 < esden> huebi .. ich glaube man sollte puzzle ausfuehren und dass im cvs updaten ... <- NEIN, vorsicht ;-) ! Bzw dann nur die neuen indexfiles commiten, sonst sind die ganzen .ext, .desc und .pz files wieder in den extensions.
14:39 < Ge0rG> fake: soll ich auf utf8 umsteigen?
14:40 < th> huebi: nein nicht ganz. solange man kein cvs add macht kommen auch die .pz files nicht rein
14:41 < huebi> th danke, habe ich vergessen. Die dateien in arch-conf werden aber zum Teil auch erneuert.
14:41 < fake> Ge0rG: nein, auf ASCII-7bit ;))
14:41 < th> huebi: man sollte kein puzzle machen und dann committen!
14:41 < Ge0rG> fake: das ist ja oede ;)
14:41 < th> huebi: find ich zumindest
14:42 < fake> Ge0rG wenn ich buchstaben mit punkten will schreib ich sie hintereinander: U: = UE, A: = AE etc. is doch viel huebscher!
14:43 < huebi> vielleicht ist es eine gute Idee, Puzzle von ./scripts/Config aufzurufen..
14:43 < fake> &aauml;
14:43 < th> huebi: nicht unbedingt, da ein puzzle nach jeder aktualisierung der .exts notwendig ist
14:43 < th> huebi: bzw. anders: ja es ist eine gute idee aber nicht ausschliesslich
14:44 < th> fake: aber du schreibst huebscher statt hu:bscher.
14:44 < Ge0rG> fake: h\"ubscher w\"are auch m\"oglich. aber wer will das schon lesen? iso8859-15 ist doch vollkommen ok
14:45 < th> \" gef\"allt mir noch am besten... muss wohl am tex liegen ;)
14:45 < fake> ach was weiss ich ;) ich hab keinen bock nachzusuchen was los is ;P
14:46 < Ge0rG> fake: installiere irssi *schleichwerbungmach*
14:46 < huebi> Also ich wuerde es ganz schoen finden, wenn die INDEX Dateien aktuell sind, damit solche Pannen, wie sie ebend gerade esden passiert ist, nicht mehr so einfach vorkommen.
14:46 < th> huebi: wo hat er denn die sourcen her? ausgecheckt?
14:46 < fake> Ge0rG: koennte ich. sekunde.
14:46 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("[BX] Whyismyspacebarnotworking?!")
14:46 < th> huebi: hat dann jemand das Build-Index vergessen?
14:47 < huebi> ae, ue, oe und ss find ich, da Dudenkonform, sehr gut. 
14:47 < th> das ist dudenkonform?
14:47 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux
14:48 < armijn> well...seems like the "Mannschaft" is doing quite well *cough*
14:48 < th> rofl
14:48 < th> hi armijn 
14:48 < armijn> hi th
14:48 < esden> hi ar
14:48 < esden> hi armijn 
14:48 < huebi> th: Ich glaube, ich weiss jetzt woran das liegt. Die Indexfiles generiere ich nur in /rock-linux und cvs mache ich nur in /rock-orig
14:48 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux
14:48 < fake> re.
14:48 < esden> re fake 
14:48 < armijn> in South-Korea travel agencies are offering trips to Guus Hiddinks town...
14:49 < esden> huebi: lasse dir was einfallen ...
14:49 < esden> ;-)
14:49 < fake> hm...
14:49 < armijn> I mean...there's absolutely *nothing* there
14:49 < fake> wieso macht irssi meinen namen nicht fett? *grml*
14:49 < huebi> jo esden
14:49 < fake> üüü
14:49 < fake> hehe. geht immernoch nicht.
14:49 < fake> ÖÄÜ
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14:49 < th> huebi: oha. also checkst du alte index-files ein...
14:50 < huebi> üüüüüüüüüüüü <- with amercanski keykoard ;-)
14:50 < esden> huebi: how ?
14:50 < Ge0rG> got a compose key?
14:50 < esden> other layout ?
14:50 < huebi> th: I think I don't ci them at all ;(
14:50 < th> compose key? /me just abuses "AltGr" ;)
14:50 < huebi> esden: copy'n'paste hehe
14:50 < esden> huebi: this is the best way
14:50 < th> huebi: i see...
14:51 < Ge0rG> <compose> <"> <u> should do the trick, while compose being shift+alt or alt+shift
14:51 < esden> cuz when they are not there then such a mistake can not happen
14:52 < huebi> no composekey does work here ;( 
14:52 < esden> here nither
14:52 < armijn> heh, still 0-0?
14:52 < esden> football fans >_<
14:52 < armijn> no, not a fan...I just want germany to lose >:->
14:53 < th> /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode 113 = Mode_switch'
14:53 < th> /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode 117 = Multi_key'
14:53 < th> /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode  38 = a A adiaeresis Adiaeresis' 
14:53 * Ge0rG has bound windows-menu-key to compose.
14:53 < th> so AltGr + A results in Ae (Ä)
14:53 < Ge0rG> 117 is the windows menu key...
14:53 * huebi has no spare keys on the SGI keyboard..
14:53 < esden> æ
14:54 < esden> that is altgr-a
14:54 < Ge0rG> who needs æ? ;)
14:54 < armijn> a what?
14:54 < th> esden: /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode  38 = a A adiaeresis Adiaeresis' 
14:54 * blindcoder is now going to abuse the buergernetz-pcs for a root-on-nfs-test
14:55 < esden> ???
14:55 < esden> blindcoder you ill ... bilindcoder ...
14:55 < esden> or so
14:55 < blindcoder> esden: I know that I'm sick, but I see no other way of getting a USABLE ROCKLinux onto my router...
14:56 < armijn> so, maybe South-Korea will win...
14:56 * blindcoder is going to boot his router over NFS *hehe*
14:56 < esden> arrrgggh ... Jean Jordaan want's to forward my gentoo test to the gentoo mailinglist ... 
14:56 < blindcoder> let him do so
14:56 * -> esden will be flamed to death
14:57 < blindcoder> esden: procmail's your friend :D
14:57 < esden> blindcoder: hehe ... sure
14:57 < blindcoder> and the 'd' doesn't get worn out that quickly
14:57 < blindcoder> 'd'-key
14:57 < huebi> esden just wants to test his new spam filter *g*
14:57 * -> esden has to subscribe to their mailinglist to watch the answers
14:57 < armijn> esden will switch to gentoo?
14:58 < esden> armijn: NEVER NO
14:58 < esden> armijn: gentoo is ill crap
14:58 < esden> I will not switch
14:58 < blindcoder> armijn: yes, he likes the sick dependencies and the colorful boot-screen
14:58 < esden> blindcoder: I love them
14:59 < armijn> hmm, a colorful bootscreen?
14:59 < esden> gentoo is a distribution for suse users that want to be l33t and want to say that they use a source distribution
14:59 < armijn> then what am I doing here!
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14:59 < blindcoder> armijn: yes, it reminds one of SuSE :D
14:59 < esden> armijn: yes .. looks like redhat
14:59 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux
14:59 < armijn> :)
14:59 < armijn> heheh
14:59 < blindcoder> hehe
14:59 < esden> [14:59] < blindcoder> armijn: yes, it reminds one of SuSE :D
14:59 < esden> [14:59] < esden> armijn: yes .. looks like redhat
15:00 < esden> armijn: your place is in gentoo ;-)
15:00 < esden> *GG*
15:00 < esden> *run*
15:00 < armijn> well, ok then.
15:00 * armijn leaves for gentoo
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15:01 < huebi> und wech isser...
15:02 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux
15:02 < armijn> ha! you guys got shit scared!
15:02 < Ge0rG> hehe
15:02 < huebi> 1:0 for gernay
15:03 < huebi> Germany, I mean
15:03 < Ge0rG> everyone talks about soccer. why does it have much more attention on geek channels than e.g. robocup?
15:03 < esden> armijn: no ... you could never go to them  ...  you are not insane enough to do it ;-)
15:04 * -> esden answered the guy to forward the mail ... 
15:04 * -> esden scared
15:04 < armijn> I know some people that do RoboCup...
15:05 < armijn> from the Dutch national team...
15:05 < armijn> it still sucks
15:05 < Ge0rG> soccer sucks more IMHO.
15:05 < armijn> excuse me? soccer?
15:05 < armijn> soccer is for americans..
15:05 < armijn> in Europe, it's football :)
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15:12 < fake> re.
15:12 < esden> re fake 
15:12 < huebi> re fake 
15:12 < fake> lag an dem system wo ich das term offenhabe, nicht am apollo/irc-client.
15:12 < blindcoder> re fake 
15:12 < fake> äääÄÄÄöööÖÖÖüüüÜÜÜßßß
15:12 < fake> hehe. wie eklig.
15:13 < Ge0rG> ümläutë
15:13 < fake> öümlöätöe
15:13 < Ge0rG> bäñäñë
15:14 * blindcoder wird schlecht
15:14 < fake> bläindcödeä `
15:14 < th> nü hö¤rt döch aüf
15:14 < fake> aifbäbbsch!
15:15 < fake> aifabäbbsch.
15:15 < armijn> new automake...
15:17 < huebi> *click*
15:18 * -> esden successfully subscribed to gentoo-dev && gentoo-users
15:18 < esden> mailinglists 
15:18 * -> esden switching to gentoo ;-)
15:18 < fake> esden: mailaddress: esden@rocklinux.org ? ;))
15:18 < esden> yepp
15:18 < fake> >_<
15:19 < huebi> hehehehe
15:19 < esden> noo ... only joking
15:19 < fake> polish espionage techniques.
15:19 < armijn> yeah, I heard they weren't too successful
15:19 * -> esden setting up echelon for gentoo ;-)
15:20 < huebi> esden@cia.pl
15:21 < huebi> esden@cia.us.pl <- now nobody will find out how esden is ;-))
15:21 < huebi> hmm, a perl script?
15:22 < fake> *lol*
15:22 < fake> esden's just a perl script.
15:22 < armijn> quick and dirty
15:22 < fake> esden@polish.security.agency.gov.pl
15:23 < esden> I will replace you all with a very small shell script !!!!
15:23 < th> esden: i wear that tshirt in the moment
15:23 < aszlig> esden: hehe, thats from fortune :)
15:23 < fake> th, the tshirt guy.
15:24 < aszlig> re
15:24 < esden> uaaaaaarrrggghh ... I am surrounded by freax .... let me out of here !!!!
15:24 < aszlig> esden: *lol*
15:24 < huebi> http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/automake/ <- ROCK is faster than freshmeat ;-))
15:24 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh
15:25 < armijn> freshmeat sucks.
15:25 < aszlig> esden: r u at bitz?
15:26 < aszlig> deadly silence :/
15:26 < huebi> more silence....
15:27 < armijn> what did you say? are u a bitch?
15:27 < huebi> even more silence....
15:27 < aszlig> armijn: /me?
15:27 < armijn> well, seems like germany won
15:27 < aszlig> arhg! i hate it!
15:27 < tsa> won what?
15:27 < aszlig> armijn: damn germany!
15:27 < huebi> armijn: you get a second chance to see Germany not becoming world champion ;-))
15:28 < tsa> aaa...the football thingie again..
15:28 < tsa> *sigh*
15:28 < fake> soccer :P
15:28 < armijn> huebi: well, they shouldn't have become world champion in 1974
15:28 < armijn> fake: FOOTBALL! not soccer
15:28 < armijn> bloody amercanski!
15:28 < fake> soccer soccer niahahah.
15:28 < Ge0rG> mhm... 6 channels with soccer as the main topic. the rest is idle. isn't there anyone wanting to talk about regular topics? ;)
15:28 < huebi> sex?
15:28 < armijn> ge0rg: FOOTBALL! not soccer
15:29 < Ge0rG> armijn: that depends.
15:29 < huebi> on sex?
15:29 < armijn> ge0rg: on what?
15:29 < Ge0rG> armijn: BE or AE
15:29 < armijn> ge0rg: BE of course. DUH
15:29 * -> esden wants to talk about normall stuff
15:29 < huebi> armijn: ACK
15:29 < huebi> esden: sex?
15:29 < aszlig> yeah /me too
15:29 < armijn> my motto: "buy European, speak European" :)
15:29 < esden> but all people prefere footcrap
15:29 < aszlig> huebi: hrhr
15:30 < esden> huebi: sex is ok ... but I prefere to talk about it with my girlfriend ... ;-)
15:30 < Ge0rG> could anyone port locate for reallife? I'd like to index my room so I can faster find things... like my english dictionary
15:31 < fake> sex is not as good as rock linux.
15:31 < fake> especially now that i finally found out why gcc3 wouldn't compile on the mips
15:32 < blindcoder> esden: did germany by any chance win just now?
15:32 < armijn> compiling gcc3 is better than sex?
15:32 < huebi> The boyfriend of my sister in law comes from England. So speak british, please. 
15:32 < esden> blindcoder: yes they did
15:32 < armijn> yeah, speak british, buy dutch
15:33 < blindcoder> no wonder everyone around behave like 3year-old children...
15:33 < esden> blindcoder: yepp ... here too ... I am afraid to go home now ...
15:33 < huebi> armijn: I bought about 100 engines for "Bromfits?" in the Netherlans a few years ago ;-)
15:34 < armijn> huebi: but you need to buy more!
15:34 < armijn> but, don't start about tomatoes, ok?
15:34 < fake> blindcoder: seems like they just now noticed their... err. hupe?
15:34 < armijn> we fixed them...
15:34 < blindcoder> fake: yes, and now they want to use it
15:34 < fake> excessively.
15:35 < esden> fake: when turks can use them then the germans can too ;-)
15:35 < huebi> *ROFLOL* dutch tomatoes... rote Wassersaeckchen..
15:35 < armijn> yeah, I don't like dutch tomatoes either...
15:35 < huebi> esden: some germans learned something ;-))
15:36 < esden> huebi: it seems so ;-)
15:36 * fake just finished his XML Parser Shell-Script ;)
15:37 < armijn> ROXML?
15:37 < armijn> why not make all the bootscripts in XML as well?
15:37 < armijn> <boot>
15:37 < armijn> </boot>
15:37 < fake> armijn: no, for work.
15:37 < huebi> What is the shortest time you can meassure? The time between a traffic light gets yellow in Israel and the second one in the queue starts to honk...
15:37 * armijn needs to puke
15:37 < fake> we got some newsfeed that comes as XML.
15:38 < fake> armijn: too much <heinecken/> ?
15:38 < armijn> I don't drink Heineken
15:38 < armijn> it gives me a headache
15:38 < blindcoder> <Budweiser/>?
15:38 < armijn> except when it's free :)
15:39 < esden> yak ... /me hates budwiser
15:39 < fake> Kaiserkrone!
15:39 < fake> *g*
15:39 < esden> heineken is ok when you have nothing else to choose
15:39 < esden> <Gutmann/>
15:39 < armijn> well, there's a difference between the dutch heineken and the export heineken
15:39 < armijn> export heineken is *way* better
15:40 < fake> heineke is actually the only beer you can drink someway in France
15:40 < armijn> well, kronenbourg is drinkable...
15:41 < fake> jep. that was the other one - i forgot. they sell it in these nice little 0.25l bottles.
15:41 < fake> you can play Cpt. Bluff with them ;)
15:41 < huebi> armijn: You should visit Franken in the north of Bavaria. In every litte village there is a little brewery.
15:41 < fake> huebi: armijn likes no german beer. especially no bavarian.
15:42 < fake> because he thinks i suck an everything i like sucks too.
15:42 < armijn> there's a beer called "bavaria" here
15:42 < armijn> it's dutch.
15:42 < huebi> Stout! and nothing else I say. Nothing=Grohe Export from Darmstadt.
15:43 < huebi> Ahh, I understand Bavarians are dutch?
15:43 < fake> Durch are Bavarian.
15:43 < fake> dutchmen.
15:44 < fake> hm. oops.
15:53 < armijn> be careful with that fake...
15:53 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-168-68.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
15:55 < huebi> Where can I find out where a computer is located with having it's IP?
15:55 < armijn> traceroute?
15:56 < huebi> armijn: There I get the route. I want to have a map of the world with the location marked.
15:56 < armijn> heh, tough luck
15:56 < Ge0rG> there are several visual routing apps for windows, don't know of a linux one
15:56 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-33.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux
15:57 < Ge0rG> but they arent precise anyway - they show wrong data for most computers...
15:57 < huebi> Ge0rG: There is one but I don't find it anymore.
15:57 < huebi> hi rxr 
15:57 < tsa> hi rxr
15:58 < tsa> huebi: 
15:58 < tsa> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3august/xt/index.html
15:58 < esden> kk
15:59 < esden> mail arrived on gentoo-user 
15:59 * -> esden already answered
15:59 < tsa> guess that''s what you've been looking for..
15:59 < hackbard> oh, openssh mal wieder ..
15:59 < tsa> jo..
15:59 < huebi> tsa: Jo, thank you!
16:00 < esden> http://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-user/2002-June/026454.html
16:01 < huebi> hackbard: fixed 2 days ago...  http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/openssh/
16:01 < esden> but I think that this mailinglist is having too much traffic so that there will be no real discussion ...
16:01 < hackbard> huebi: the rock package?
16:02 < huebi> hackbard: jo
16:02 < hackbard> _alle_ versionen vulnerable
16:02 < huebi> hackbard: doesn't matter
16:02 < hackbard> keiner weiss nen fix
16:02 < hackbard> why ?
16:02 < armijn> heh, are we propellerheads?
16:03 < armijn> I do have a beanie hat, with a propeller...
16:03 < huebi> openssh sshd now running privsep by default
16:03 < tsa> huebi: uhh...mom.
16:04 < tsa> huebi: this only works if the default kernel is 2.4.x
16:04 < tsa> openssh-3.3 doesn't like the mmap() implementation in linux 2.2.x kernels..
16:07 < huebi> tsa: Yes, you mentioned that. I think it will take a few days till a really good working version is out.
16:09 < esden> armijn: it seems so ;-)
16:09 < fake> Ein hinduistischer Shadu Baba spielt im nepalesischen Kathmandu auf einer Flöte. Die etwa 300 Heiligen Männer im Pashupati-Tempel sagen Gläubigen und Touristen gegen eine Spende die Zukunft voraus. 
16:09 < tsa> huebi: i hope that version will be released before gobbles' next mail to bugtraq get's accepted..
16:10 < huebi> I hope so, too. 
16:14 < esden> a question ... what is a propellerhead ??? I can imagine what it is but I am not sure.
16:15 < esden> It is not in the jargon file
16:15 < esden> and in no online dictionary I know
16:16 < huebi> Very intelligent people having the mad squirrel desease
16:16 < huebi> or so
16:16 < huebi> or not
16:16 < esden> mad squirrel desease ???
16:17 < huebi> like mad cow desease only for squirrels.
16:17 < huebi> BSE!
16:17 < tsa> Mathilda!
16:17 < huebi> BSE fuer Streifenhoernchen ;-)
16:18 < huebi> (And here she is again, Mathilda)
16:18 < huebi> MuH!
16:18 < hackbard> huebi: na und, dann landet der attacker halt im chroot, aber die attacke selbst wird nicht verhindert ..
16:19 < hackbard> auch nich schoen 
16:19 -!- rolla [~Der@stlmaisenhel.ugs.com] has joined #rocklinux
16:19 < esden> hi rolla 
16:19 < rolla> hallo 
16:19 < huebi> hackbard: chroot is empty! nothing in there only access to nowhere
16:19 < tsa> hi rxr
16:19 < tsa> aargh..
16:19 < rolla> 1:0 :)
16:19 < huebi> hi rolla 
16:19 < tsa> hi rolla
16:20 < th> huebi: is there a shell?
16:20 < tsa> th: nope.
16:20 < huebi> th: no nothing
16:20 < th> ouhm
16:20 < esden> yes ... rolla the people here in munich are standing on their hoops ... 
16:20 < th> ok
16:20 < th> ;>
16:20 < tsa>  /var/empty is just empty, nothing else.
16:20 < rolla> :)
16:20 * -> esden gets insain
16:20 < huebi> ll /var/empty
16:20 < huebi> .
16:20 < huebi> ..
16:20 < huebi> nothing
16:20 < th> ll /var/empty/nothing
16:20 < fake> hi rolla !
16:21 < rolla> :)
16:22 < rolla> too bad about ballack :(
16:22 < hackbard> naja, das machst schwieriger, aber man kommt schon raus .. local security is mehr illusion als remote security ;)
16:25 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
16:25 < esden> hi Mike1 
16:26 < Mike1> hi all
16:26 < Mike1> re esden ;)
16:26 < armijn> pfrt
16:26 < huebi> hackbard: How should that be done?
16:26 < esden> armijn: ???
16:26 < huebi> hi Mike1 
16:26 < armijn> just pfrt
16:27 < esden> good armijn ... our ueberpropellerhead .. 
16:27 < esden> i like this word ;-)
16:29 < huebi> http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/ip <- does not work and looks like this:
16:29 < huebi> #!/bin/bash
16:29 < huebi> echo `/sbin/ifconfig -a| /bin/grep P-t-P`
16:29 < huebi> any ideas?
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16:33 < tsa> huebi: erhm..
16:33 < fake>  echo `/sbin/ifconfig -a | echo`
16:33 < fake> doesn't work either
16:33 < tsa> echo Content-Type: text/html
16:33 < tsa> echo
16:33 < tsa> echo `ifconfig -a`
16:33 < fake> huebi: ifconfig ppp0 ?
16:34 < huebi> testing...
16:35 < huebi> /sbin/ifconfig -a <works
16:36 < fake> huebi: https://fake.by-infonet.de/trace.php?ip=<hostname>
16:37 < fake> huebi: extra fuer dich auf 443 ;)
16:38 < tsa> fake: BAD IDEA
16:38 < huebi> dankoe
16:38 < fake> tsa: yeah?
16:38 < tsa> https://fake.by-infonet.de/trace.php?ip=127.0.0.1;cat%20/etc/passwd
16:38 < tsa> hva fun
16:38 < tsa> have fun
16:38 < fake> oops
16:38 < tsa> hahahaha
16:38 < tsa> *giggle*
16:38 < huebi> aiii...
16:38 < tsa> that one was _too_ easy..
16:39 < fake> :P
16:39 < tsa> "hacking for beginners, part 1" ;-)
16:39 < fake> removed. will look at it.
16:39 < huebi> part 0. before you start....
16:39 < esden> fake: aaaarrrrgggghhh >_<
16:39 < fake> esden: calm down. i don't want to know how buggy bchat is ;)
16:40 < fake> it's removed now, anyways.
16:40 < esden> fake: I do not want to know !!
16:40 < esden> but I have escaped all such things correctly in bchat code
16:40 < armijn> esden: more stuff for you to test
16:40 < armijn> http://www.bablokb.de/gendist/
16:41 < huebi> [Tue Jun 25 16:31:45 2002] [error] [client 196.40.25.179] Premature end of script headers: /opt/apache_1.3.24/cgi-bin/ip hmmmm
16:42 < tsa> ok, feierabend,
16:43 < tsa> cu all.
16:43 < hackbard> huebi: wenn root invalid chroot setzen und ab gehts ins richtige root.
16:43 < huebi> cu tsa 
16:43 -!- tsa [~tsa@sec-01.bi.devcon.net] has quit ("wech.")
16:43 < hackbard> huebi: das kann doch nicht komplett leer sein, ohne bin/sh funktioniert doch kein chroot?
16:43 < blindcoder> *STRIKE* root on nfs up and running :D
16:44 < hackbard> huebi: also ich kanns bestimmt nicht exploiten, aber es gibt bestimmt leute die irgendwelche wege finden ..
16:44 < armijn> huebi: have you started a new build on "rock"?
16:45 < armijn> a fresh build that is
16:45 < huebi> armijn: no I didn't
16:45 < armijn> will you start one?
16:45 < armijn> pleeeeease?
16:45 < armijn> with a new kernel config (that works)
16:45 < huebi> huebi@ella:~$ ssh root@rock
16:45 < huebi> ssh: connect to address 192.168.100.9 port 22: No route to host
16:46 < armijn> bwah
16:46 < huebi> armijn: when I come home I do that.
16:46 < huebi> on rock and on fels
16:46 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D668.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
16:46 < armijn> whoohoo!
16:46 < huebi> huhu thalerim ;-)
16:46 < armijn> yeah, getting dinner.
16:46 < armijn> brb
16:46 < armijn> \
16:46 < esden> armijn: they are too small ...
16:47 < esden> therey should be left alone ;-(
16:47 * huebi having dinner... ;-)
16:47 < esden> ups
16:47 < thalerim> moin
16:47 < esden> )
16:47 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1CDC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving")
16:47 < esden> hi thalerim 
16:47 < armijn> esden: is that what the girls say as well? "it's too small!"
16:47 < armijn> ;-)
16:47 * armijn afk
16:47 < thalerim> man ich könnte kotzen
16:48 < huebi> thalerim: think about your keyboard...
16:49 < thalerim> mal abgesehen davon dass deutschalnd im finale steht :->
16:49 < thalerim> und auch mal abgesehen davon, dass ich einen bäneriss im vorderen knöchel habe
16:49 < thalerim> ist mir gestern aufgefallen, dass meine festplatte plötzlich kaputsch war
16:50 < thalerim> und bis ich mir dann mal ne neue organisiert hatte (man bedenke dem bänderiss)
16:50 < thalerim> und linux installiert hatte - und nun ist es wieder hin
16:51 < thalerim> why the heck is fsck a dummy on the rocklinux-cd?????
16:52 < thalerim> huebi: 1.5.15 is still the newest iso?
16:53 < huebi> no
16:53 < fake> itnick, saying, 'I had access to most, if not all, of the switches in Las Vegas,' and tells how he came up with a list of 100 challenge-response codes."
16:53 < huebi> mom
16:53 < huebi> http://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.16/
16:54 < huebi> fake: URL?
16:54 < fake> huebi: on slashdot
16:54 < esden> muahahaha 
16:54 < esden> lough
16:55 < fake> huebi: NYT. registration-blahblah.
16:55 < thalerim> who's responsible for the installdisks (1.5er tree)
16:55 * -> esden gets his propeller hat and puts it on ;-)
16:55 < huebi> thalerim: me
16:55 < esden> I need such a propeller hat for 19C3 !!!
16:56 * blindcoder replaces esdens propellar with a sharp razor and puts it upside down on esdens head
16:56 < thalerim> <thalerim> why the heck is fsck a dummy on the rocklinux-cd????? <-
16:56 < thalerim> i really _need_ it
16:56 < esden> thanks blindcoder *jump*
16:56 < huebi> * esden now looks like a "Moench"
16:56 < blindcoder> monk
16:56 < fake> monk of pure code.
16:56 * -> esden is a rockmonk
16:56 < fake> prayer to the god of source.
16:57 < huebi> thalerim: because ther is not enough space on the boot disk ;-(
16:57 < fake> seeking wisdom in the depths of the linux kernel
16:57 < fake> hunted by the closed source devil
16:58 < thalerim> huebi: ok then run a 'ldd fsck' on you system, please (i cannot, sitting toward a winblows box)
16:58 < huebi> IMF00YC7:~# ldd /sbin/fsck
16:59 < huebi> libe2p.so.2 => /lib/libe2p.so.2 (0x4001c000)
16:59 < huebi> libext2fs.so.2 => /lib/libext2fs.so.2 (0x40021000)
16:59 < huebi> libcom_err.so.2 => /lib/libcom_err.so.2 (0x40036000
16:59 < huebi> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40039000)
16:59 < huebi> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
16:59 < huebi> ok
16:59 * -> esden updating download paths in 1.5
16:59 * -> esden is bored by this ...
17:00 * -> esden wants to see cool bugs to chew on them ;-)
17:00 < thalerim> huebi: i assume the first three will miss.. or are they on the ramdisk?
17:02 < thalerim> rock-src-1.5.16.iso <- what's the meaning of the src? does it contain the source of the files (and i'll have to compile) or the compiled binaries?
17:02 < esden> these are the sources of the packets 
17:02 < esden> you have to compile it ...
17:03 < thalerim> ####
17:03 < thalerim> actually i need the newest "just install it" iso
17:04 < huebi> thalerim: I know the big problem of the too small bootdisk. So the next two weeks are completely reserved for ROCK Liunx. I have to fix mant things and I want to build a few more install disks (xfs/reiserfs) you can then choose from while booting from cd
17:04 < huebi> thalerim: CPU?
17:04 < fake> hm... the mips chroot of rock is _much_ faster then the debian
17:04 < thalerim> i686
17:04 < fake> *grin*
17:04 < huebi> thalerim: http://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.16/rock-ia32-i686-base+opt-1.5.16.iso
17:05 < thalerim> ok
17:06 < thalerim> is a listing which pkg that contains anywhere?
17:07 < thalerim> well, actually i mean, does it provide vim ?
17:08 < esden> haha ... an answer on the gentoo-user mailinglist!!!
17:08 -!- WKaibigan [~Aloicious@ACB66BB7.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux
17:08 < esden> http://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-user/2002-June/026460.html
17:13 < thalerim> huebi: kannst du mir mal bitte ein kompiliertes packet von vim irgendwo hochladen? (ich will nur nur ein ausweich system aufstellen, weil ich noch ein paar Sachen an dialog machen muss und das möglichst bald; ohne syntax-highlighting keine chance)
17:13 < huebi> thalerim: jo
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17:15 < thalerim> thx!
17:27 < fake> ls
17:27 < fake> >_<
17:29 < huebi> thalerim: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/ia32-vim.tar.bz2
17:29 < huebi> thalerim: installs under /opt/vim
17:30 < huebi> optimized for i686
17:30 < huebi> thalerim: You'll feel the differece - typing is now *way* faster *g*
17:31 < huebi> +n
17:32 < esden> hmm ... the discussion on the list starts to be interesting ... i will have to bring in some rocklinux concepts ;-)
17:33 < fake> esden: no, don't.
17:33 < esden> fake: why ... it will be fun ;-)
17:33 < fake> esden: keep observing.
17:33 < esden> fake: sure
17:35 < huebi> th: huhu, noch da?
17:36 < esden> ok ... cu all
17:36 < huebi> esden: let them read the source of rock. If they are interested they will do it and adopt some thing of ROCK.
17:36 * -> esden must go to the tarin
17:36 < huebi> tarin?
17:36 < fake> his priest
17:36 < fake> priest of rock.
17:36 < huebi> esden: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!
17:36 < esden> hehe ... muahahaha
17:37 < esden> huebi: read the thread there
17:37 < esden> I am not a flamewar assasin
17:37 < esden> ok ...
17:37 < esden> cu all
17:37 < fake> cya!
17:38 < huebi> esden: They'll discuss it or not. I'm very interested in an abstract like in LWN ;-)
17:38 < thalerim> cu
17:38 < huebi> thalerim: did you get it
17:38 < huebi> ?
17:38 < thalerim> i startet it a minute ago
17:38 < thalerim> started
17:38 < huebi> vim too?
17:39 < thalerim> <thalerim> i startet it a minute ago - it = vim
17:39 < thalerim> iso: 10%, vim 20%
17:39 < huebi> ah ok. Have fun. Und alles gute fuer deinen Fuss.
17:40 < huebi> (Wird wohl mindestens 4-6 Wochen dauern)
17:40 < fake> der fuss oder der download? ;-)
17:40 < thalerim> 6wochen bandage
17:40 < huebi> fake LOL
18:11 < fake> cal
18:11 < fake> *argh*
18:11 < fake> ah. cool. friday is money-day :)
18:12 < huebi> fake: :-)
18:21 < fake> blindcoder (18:20): ich red mit ira darüber dass ich mit esden schlafe 
18:21 < fake> o_O
18:21 < fake> *fg*
18:22 < huebi> Ich hab's doch geahnt...
18:22 < huebi> LOL
18:23 < huebi> mail is out to the list. ;-))
18:24 < th> huebi: jetzt ja
18:24 < th> huebi: vim?
18:25 < huebi> vim kommt auch mit in opt
18:26 < th> grmpf. also weg aus all meinen ext-config
18:26 < fake> wird hart : the ISO-Images are made for ia32 i585.
18:26 < fake> we have binaries before there's even silicon!
18:27 < huebi> fake: ROCK is just _very_ uptodate *g*
18:28 < huebi> i chaged the arch intel to ia32 as in 1.7
18:28 < huebi> +n
18:28 < fake> actually that's what in the kernel-menu-help for the SB1 Processor (MIPS)
18:28 < th> huebi: working on 1.7?
18:28 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D668.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos")
18:29 < huebi> th: no talking to clifford and we found it is more consistent with this naming chene.
18:30 < th> huebi: unable to resolve "this"
18:30 < th> huebi: ich hab eben ein paar stunden geschlafen und nicht zugehoert
18:30 < fake> == 06/24/02 20:33:35 =[2]=> Finished building package gcc3.
18:30 < fake> JEEE!
18:30 < fake> finally.
18:30 < fake> --disable-libgcj was what it was all about...
18:31 < huebi> th: 18:28 < huebi> i chaged the arch intel to ia32 as in 1.7
18:31 < th> huebi: ahh ok.
18:31 < huebi> cu later ;-)
18:31 < huebi> have to leave...
18:32 < fake> cu huebi !
18:34 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5518.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux
18:34 < owl> hi
18:35 < fake> hi owl!
18:39 < rolla> owl
18:40 < blindcoder> fake: for the record: I'm NOT homosexual!
18:40 < fake> sagt ja keiner? ;-)
18:40 < blindcoder> 18:21 < fake> blindcoder (18:20): ich red mit ira darüber dass ich mit esden schlafe 
18:41 < fake> blindcoder: i just thought it's funny
18:42 < fake> blindcoder: but as nobody reads the irclogs except google your little secret is safe ;-)))
18:44 < blindcoder> ... ... ...
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18:55 < snyke> hmm
18:57 * fake geht ma eine stauben.
18:58 < snyke> tz
18:59 < SMP> phew
19:01 -!- SMP changed the topic of #rocklinux to: OpenSSH remote vuln. upcoming; upgrade to OpenSSH 3.3 and enable PrivSep! Now! (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openssh-unix-dev&m=102495293705094&w=2)
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19:06 < fake> hi SMP
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19:18 * fake compiling openssh 3.3p1
19:19 < th>  /topic $topic | or consider ssh.com
19:19 < Ge0rG> ssh.com rocks
19:19 < fake> ssh.com ?
19:19 < th> www.ssh.com the original ssh
19:20 < fake> s/original/commercial/ ?
19:20 < th> the one openssh tries to be compatible with
19:20 < th> fake: free for commercial use on linux and bsd systems
19:20 < fake> sweet.
19:20 < th> as well as for non-commercial use
19:20 < SMP> *rotfl*
19:20 < Ge0rG> anyway, what does "open" in openssh mean?
19:21 < th> it's open
19:21 < fake> but i'll stick to openssh....
19:21 < th> fake: i know
19:21 < th> fake: you all do
19:21 < SMP> OpenSSH has privsep - ssh.com doesn't
19:22 < fake> just because there are no bug/vuln reports because it's closed source doesn't mean there are none ;)
19:22 < SMP> _you really want to have privsep_
19:22 < SMP> seriously. I'd wish ssh.com were implementing it
19:22 < th> SMP: well OpenSSH really needs privsep
19:22 < SMP> th: and ssh.com doesn't, because there are no bugs?
19:22 < th> fake: the source is not closed
19:23 < th> SMP: i did not say it that direct ;)
19:23 < fake> you mean - it's open source, but on OSI compliant license?
19:23 < fake> on=no
19:23 < SMP> th: but if you're thinking it, you deserve getting 0wn3d
19:24 < th> fake: don't know how the license is called. you download the source-code and compile it. and it's free for non-commercial use and for non-commercial and commercial use on linux and bsd
19:24 < fake> y34h. you d3s3rv3 b3ing 0wnz0r3d! ;)
19:25 < fake> th> so if i got into the city and read the source out loud everybdoy has a cool, bug-free ssh. open-source.
19:25 < th> SMP: tons of bug/vuln reports made me feel afraid of openssh
19:25 < fake> th: better lots of reports than none...
19:26 < Ge0rG> there are reports on ssh... it just doesnt have so many bugs ;)
19:26 < SMP> Ge0rG: have you been on #linux.de last Friday (21.6.)?
19:26 < th> fake: but tell me: why are there _almost_ no bug reports for ssh.com?
19:26 < Ge0rG> SMP: nope
19:26 < SMP> Ge0rG: on IRCnet I mean
19:27 < SMP> oh, yes you have
19:27 < Ge0rG> SMP: I was on that channel one or two times...
19:27 < SMP> Ge0rG: so you were the one who changed to topic for the irssi crash?
19:27 < Ge0rG> SMP: uhm... aeh...
19:28 < SMP> so?
19:29 < Ge0rG> it might have been me...
19:29 < Ge0rG> I've toggled the irssi bug on several channels, don't remember if I did it on #linux.de too
19:30 < SMP> so you think this was funny?
19:30 < SMP> or a good idea?
19:34 < SMP> would you mind explaining yourself?
19:36 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o SMP] by ChanServ
19:36 < th> "StGB §328, Abs. 2, Nr. 3: Mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu fünf Jahren oder mit Geldstrafe wird bestraft, wer eine nukleare Explosion verursacht oder einen anderen zu dieser Handlung verleitet oder eine solche Handlung fördert."
19:36 < th> SMP: (das ist dein mate supplier)
19:36 < Ge0rG> SMP: at that time I thought so.
19:37 < Ge0rG> sometimes its just great to forget about the consequences and to do something evil.
19:39 <@SMP> so - are you trying to say that you have changed you mind?
19:40 <@SMP> 'your mind'
19:41 < th> SMP: if he had not done so - would you still use buggy irssi?
19:41 <@SMP> hehe
19:42 < Ge0rG> SMP: at least I've stopped exploiting it everywhere I get ;)
19:43 < Ge0rG> SMP: but whats the problem? a crashing irssi is a pretty regular thing...
19:43 <@SMP> I am accepting this as an apology..
19:43 < Ge0rG> happens here once in a while too
19:43 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o SMP] by SMP
19:43 < th> lol
19:43 < Ge0rG> SMP: sorry that I've hit you. it was really nothing personal.
19:44 < th> nice show, SMP 
19:44 < SMP> go watch Spider-Man and learn how great power implies great responsiblity ;>
19:44 * fake cant resist imagining SMP with a big double-bladed sword...
19:45 < th> SMP: LOL
19:45 < fake> <-- playing too much Neverwinter Night s>_<
19:45 < Ge0rG> fake: hehe
19:45 < th> SMP: spiderman was great ;)
19:45 < SMP> (Op needed for pending /kick)
19:45 < th> fake: (-!- mode/#rocklinux [-o SMP] by SMP) and he just put his sword back on his back.
19:46 < fake> th: i know ;)
19:46 < SMP> 'sword' isn't the word
19:46 < SMP> I use a LART
19:46 < th> hehe
19:46 < Ge0rG> ,oO( channel is -t.... must resist... no topic games... ;) )
19:46 < fake> LART?
19:46 < th> SMP: Ge0rG could be 120% LART resistant
19:47 < th> fake: Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool
19:47 < fake> *LOL*
19:47 < Ge0rG> being LARTed would be really humiliating...
19:48 < SMP> Ge0rG: the problem isn't "a crashing irssi". it is that denying people communication cannot be accepted
19:50 < Ge0rG> SMP: I know. thats why I always did reset the topic after a minute or so
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19:51 < armijn> re
19:51 < fake> SMP what is the # of the sshd user?
19:51 < SMP> pardon?
19:52 < SMP> ah..
19:52 < SMP> uid=19(sshd) gid=19(sshd) groups=19(sshd)
19:52 < fake> tnx...
19:52 < armijn> blah.
19:52 < SMP> at least in 1.4 / 1.5
19:52 < armijn> I ran out of beer.
19:52 * fake on suse >_<
19:52 < fake> at work - not my choice.
19:52 < SMP> uhm
19:53 < SMP> you better not use 19 then
19:53 < Ge0rG> fake: maybe its time for some knoppix-like rock which can be cd-booted and used on the fly? ;)
19:53 < armijn> I heard that this knoppix stuff was pretty kool
19:53 < fake> SMP: well, it's not really important which number it is, as long as it is not 1, right?
19:53 < SMP> Ge0rG: in theory it has been done already
19:54 < SMP> s,0,1, ;>
19:54 < SMP> argh
19:54 < SMP> other way round
19:54 < SMP> I need breakfast, damnit
19:54 < fake> yeah.
19:54 < th> y,01,10,
19:54 < armijn> breakfast?
19:54 < fake> especially coffee ;)
19:55 < armijn> SMP: had rough night?
19:55 < SMP> recovering from monday morning
19:55 < th> a cool club-mate is a cool idea
19:56 < SMP> th: mind dropping some here when you're visiting SO next time? ;)
19:57 < armijn> SMP: recovering from monday morning?
19:57 < th> SMP: i'll do so as soon the supply is established through esden and fake
19:57 < armijn> SMP: that was yesterday morning...
19:57 < SMP> [X] armijn can count
19:57 < SMP> ;p
19:58 < Ge0rG> #rocklinux, the secret club mate network
19:58 < th> SMP: i've only 3 bottles left. perhaps Ge0rG has some left for you
19:58 < armijn> SMP: so, what happened yesterday morning?
19:58 < Ge0rG> mhm... let me think about it....
19:58 < armijn> SMP: if it was really rough, I'd go for the English breakfast
19:59 < esden> re hi all
20:00 < armijn> hi esden
20:01 < SMP> armijn: monday morning I had to repair a broken down harddisk in one packetfilter. after already being awake 14hrs. driving 1,5hrs. then not having the right screwdriver. then not knowing OpenBSD fdisk well enough
20:01 < Ge0rG> SMP: I think that'll go ok, but it depends on when the "distribution network" will be running
20:02 < SMP> Ge0rG: I don't need to many ATM. I hope th agrees to bring them around next chance. th?
20:02 < armijn> SMP: and no breakfast.
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20:02 < Babyface> hoi
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20:02 < Ge0rG> I've promised someone to give him a crate, but I think he can wait until the distro works... then I'd give it to th and you 'd get some bottles too
20:03 < armijn> bottles of what?
20:03 < SMP> armijn: Club-Mate
20:03 < Ge0rG> ok, babyface is responsible for the koeln-magdeburg link :)
20:03 < armijn> ah...mate...
20:04 < Ge0rG> fake: still here?
20:04 < SMP> Ge0rG: who's that? th?
20:04 < th> SMP: no
20:04 < SMP> th: sorry ;)
20:04 < th> hehe
20:04 < th> ;)
20:04 < fake> damn it.
20:04 < SMP> maybe we should all join #club-mate ..? ;)
20:04 < fake> my just-compiled sshd does not work.
20:04 < armijn> nah
20:04 < Ge0rG> hm... boerde.de might go offline in the next minutes
20:05 < fake> Jun 25 22:06:44 freia sshd[17998]: fatal: mmap(65536): Invalid argument
20:05 < fake> *ARGH*
20:05 < armijn> SMP: I'd go for the english breakfast.
20:05 < fake> DONT TELL ME
20:05 < fake> 2.2
20:05 < fake> *DOUH*
20:05 < fake> 2.2.19
20:06 < fake> ok... forget about privsep for now...
20:06 < SMP> armijn: we're having a BBQ right now. maybe I should go over..
20:06 < SMP> fake: PAM?
20:06 < armijn> SMP: yeah, maybe you should
20:06 < fake> SMP: yes
20:06 < th> SMP: next WE SO comes here... have to ask her for _our_ plans in a fortnight
20:06 < fake> wee. and now i have to go upstairs to fix it - just kicked me out.
20:07 < SMP> privsep does have problems with PAM..
20:07 < SMP> bug your vendor..
20:07 < fake> suse suxx bug time.
20:07 < fake> well... i'll try without PAM then.
20:07 < fake> cya later
20:08 < SMP> th: yeah, whatever.. as I said.. 'next time possible'
20:09 < th> SMP: no problem
20:10 < Ge0rG> ,oO( 20 club mate crates start in muenchsteinach, 2 reach smp, rest vanishes )
20:10 < SMP> I have a crate of empty bottels here, btw. ..
20:11 < SMP> can I get the refund at any supermarket?
20:11 < Ge0rG> mate bottles?
20:11 < th> SMP: i really don't know
20:11 < Ge0rG> I doubt it.
20:12 < SMP> or do empty crates have to travel 'upstream' to suppy-chain? ;)
20:12 < SMP> supply-chain ..
20:12 < Ge0rG> if you drive them to berlin you get 50¢ more for them ;)
20:12 < th> Ge0rG: refund in berlin is higher?
20:12 < th> Ge0rG: hey that's an real-world exploit!
20:13 < Ge0rG> th: at least I had to pay more. I suppose if I pay 5¤ for the crate plus 12 for the content, then I get 5¤ back when returning the crate
20:14 < th> hope so
20:14 < Ge0rG> th: not really - imagine the cost for transferring empty bottles from muenchsteinach (I should make an alias for that word) to berlin
20:16 < praenti> hi
20:17 < th> Ge0rG: muenchsteinach (word xbuffered) has no empty botles for us. we have empty bottles in ST
20:19 < Ge0rG> th: they've got full bottles. getting them empty is a hard job too ;)
20:19 < praenti> does anyone know how clifford is?
20:19 < praenti> nerd is offline, he is offline
20:20 < armijn> who's clifford?
20:20 < th> Ge0rG: we really need to care about empty crates...
20:21 < praenti> armijn: ... ;-)
20:21 < praenti> perhaps the omnipotent person?
20:22 < praenti> or better clifford=root?
20:22 < praenti> ok. i'm away. cya tomorrow
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20:33 < Ge0rG> that was an irssi crash ;)
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20:39 < d3mian> hi all!
20:44 < esden> hi d3mian 
20:45 < armijn> hi
20:45 < d3mian> ahhmm!, i feel so gut, ive left the Uni!
20:46 < armijn> finished studies?
20:46 < esden> d3mian: ?????
20:46 < armijn> or are you just another drop out?
20:47 < d3mian> no, vacations! .. the end of semester
20:47 < esden> arggggghhh
20:47 < th> d3mian: i thought it would be something interesting
20:47 < esden> d3mian: I HATE YOU
20:47 < d3mian> ill leave the Uni in 6 yrs i guess!
20:47 < d3mian> hehe, da u continue studying hard esden?
20:48 < esden> yes ... I have three exams next month ...
20:49 < d3mian> ouch, ic
20:49 < armijn> grrr
20:50 < fake> SMP: it's not the PAM support. PAM works.
20:50 < fake> it's indeed an incompatibility to the 2.2 kernel
20:51 < armijn> heh
20:52 < fake> this traps me in a problematic situation.
20:52 < fake> i could either dump the 2.2.19-suse kernel which is certified and the only one officially allowed for doing IPSec with SAP
20:53 < fake> and use 2.4, also replacing that damn brainfsckd SuSE firewall script
20:53 < fake> or i could just leave it there wit no PrivSep and wait until my employer dies.
20:53 -!- [anders] [~guest@62.3.122.161] has joined #rocklinux
20:53 < fake> btw: i couldn't bug SuSE because it's 6.4 - which is no longer supported.
20:56 * fake wirft eine runde bruehend heissen espresso in den channel
20:56 < fake> *flatsch*
20:56 -!- WKaibigan [~Aloicious@ACB63B0B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux
20:56 < fake> btw: i chosse #2 ;-)
20:56 < esden> fake: danke
20:56 < esden> dass brauche ich jetzt
20:58 * -> esden heizt sich wasser fuer einen cappu auf
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21:01 * fake listening to Rammstein - Wollt Ihr nicht auch das Bett in Flammen sehen?
21:01 * d3mian listen Dimmu Borgir - Burn in Hell
21:01 < fake> hm. das sollte wohl Wollt Ihr das Bett in Flammen heissen.
21:02 < fake> Dimmu Borgir rulez ;)
21:02 < fake> In Death's Embrace is my fav
21:02 < d3mian> sure ! :)
21:02 < d3mian> Puritanicals mine
21:02 < fake> thoug a Succubus in Rapture (?) is also good.
21:03 < fake> yeah like Puritanicals too ;)
21:03 < d3mian> dunno, never listened about that song
21:03 < d3mian> well, have to leave now
21:03 < fake> cya!
21:03 < Ge0rG> hm... i should put the ram back into the 486 before booting it...
21:03 < d3mian> ill be @ home for a long time, without contact!
21:03 < snyke> hmm
21:03 < d3mian> rammstein is funny too
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21:04 < fake> perl is a bitch.
21:05 < snyke> muahaha
21:06 < esden> fake: ... good to fuck ;-)
21:06 < rolla> perl is not a bitch ;)
21:09 < [anders]> perl is handy...
21:09 * [anders] use it frequently at work..
21:10 < rolla> ja
21:11 < fake> bash is better ;-)
21:12 < [anders]> depends what you do.. if you do lots of pattern matching and stepping through lines, search&replace... perl is better..
21:12 < fake> it's a question of personal favour i think.
21:12 < rolla> yes it is :)
21:12 < fake> rolla: gcc3 now compiles on mips.
21:13 < fake> after i found out that gcj is simply not supported on mips yet - and no configure test warns you / disables it.
21:13 < [anders]> I use bash when I want to type a problem fast, if I want to try an elegant sollution, perl it is.. ;-)
21:13 < [anders]> solution even..
21:14 < rolla> sweet
21:16 < Ge0rG> "perl" and "elegant" don't belong in the same sentence ;)
21:16 < th> ack
21:17 < rolla> it is one own opion :)
21:17 < fake> Ge0rG: ym friend ;-)
21:17 < fake> my
21:18 < th> i'm using python for more complex scripting tasks
21:18 * fake drives home now
21:18 < Ge0rG> "is there any perl analogon to the obfuscated C contest?" -- "Yes, it's called CPAN"
21:19 < Ge0rG> Uncompressing Linux...
21:19 < Ge0rG> this 486 sucks :)
21:19 < th> Ge0rG: hehe :)
21:20 < esden> cu all
21:20 < th> lat0r esden  ;)
21:20 < Ge0rG> lat0r is l33t sp34k...
21:21 < Ge0rG> hey, it boots! :)
21:21 < rolla> I found typo in Documentation :(
21:21 < th> Ge0rG: it rocks
21:22 < Ge0rG> mhm... would knoppix boot with 36mb ram? ;)
21:22 < th> which tasks is knoppix for?
21:23 < Ge0rG> having fun on foreign machines? ;)
21:23 < Ge0rG> the 486 root disk contains "dmesg" as a link to busybox but the busybox module isnt compiled.
21:24 < th> Ge0rG: please specify "fun" in that sense
21:25 < Ge0rG> dunno
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21:41 < [anders]> woohooo.. /me got hold of an old Erasure song, "Neverending Story"...
21:41 < [anders]> I wasn't aware Erasure had done it, but it does sound very much like Erasure..
21:44 < WKaibigan> Wasn't that sung by Limahl
21:47 < Ge0rG> hm... having a "real" shell with history and tab completion on the root floppy would be a dream... is it possible?
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21:48 < fake> hm. i'd really like to have a short, violent chat with the guys from the "Verbraucherschutzministerium".
21:49 < fake> everybody - even non smokers - know what a lighter costed at the gas station before the euro was invented - 1 DM.
21:49 < fake> guess what the exactly same lighter costs now...
21:49 < fake> bingo. 1 EUR.
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21:49 < Ge0rG> re
21:49 < fake> it's really disgusting
21:49 < Ge0rG> hm... having a "real" shell with history and tab completion on the root floppy would be a dream... is it possible?
21:50 < fake> Ge0rG: i'd prefer to have fsck.ext2 first.
21:51 < Ge0rG> fake: ok, thats a point
21:51 < fake> Ge0rG: huebi will work extensively on the boot/install-disks in the coming two weeks
21:52 < Ge0rG> yet another bug (is anyone writing that down?): I've got /mnt and /mnt/boot mounted (/mnt is install target), and when I make df in the rock install shell (1.5.16, i486), I get only the space on /mnt/boot displayed.
21:52 < rxr> Ge0rG: in dRock we have all this on the install-disk ... 
21:52 < fake> esden also did a lot of work an a dietlibc-target, which will be used for the 1.7/2.0 install/boot disks
21:52 < rxr> ext2/3, reiserfs and bash (with completion and history ...) ...
21:52 * rxr off learning ...
21:53 < th> Ge0rG: /trg is dedicated mountpoint for installtarget
21:54 < th> Ge0rG: just mount /trg and /src and run "Install" or just untarbz2 all base-pkgs to /trg
21:55 < th> Ge0rG: root-kombo still has bash, IIRC
21:55 < th> Ge0rG: and btw... just untarbz2 bash.tar.bz2 and run bash
21:55 < th> Ge0rG: could be untared to target or ramfs
21:57 < Ge0rG> I've tried /dst which wasn't there so I took /mnt ;)
21:57 < th> Ge0rG: /trg is there
21:57 < Ge0rG> th: I was too lazy to type ls /
21:58 < th> Ge0rG: you were too lazy to read
21:58 < th>  /trg is the default target for Install binary. did u use install-shell?
21:59 < Ge0rG> nope, Install.bin in the rock-dir
21:59 < Ge0rG> reading is for the case where everything else has failed.
21:59 < th> just use "Install"
21:59 < Ge0rG> ok, next time then
21:59 < th> mount /src and /trg and "Install" without arguments ;)
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22:06 < fake> hi simon-! any luck?
22:07 < fake> SMP ?
22:07 < SMP> fake?
22:08 < fake> SMP: now i see 3 sshds running when logged in. 2 as root and one as the user logged in...
22:08 < fake> shouldn't one of those be running as sshd ?
22:08 < SMP> no.
22:09 < fake> hm... and i'll have to wait for the exploit to test wether it worked ;)
22:09 < SMP> one of the three is the daemon listening on the socket. it has nothing to do with your login (anymore)
22:09 < SMP> on the other ones:
22:10 < SMP> http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/provos/ssh/privsep.html
22:11 < huebi> re
22:12 < SMP> basically, what you are seeing is the 'user-privileged' sshd
22:12 < SMP> the 'unprivileged' sshd only exists until the authentication has completed
22:13 < fake> aaaw! i always wondered what it's doing while waiting for authentication.
22:13 < fake> re huebi !
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22:20 * huebi reading log ;-)
22:26 < rolla> argh now rsync is dead 
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23:03 < holyolli> re
23:06 < fake> re holyolli 
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23:30 < fake> gm... damn it.
23:30 < fake> ldconfig segfaulting again
23:42 < Ge0rG> mhm.... default kernel should maybe have sysrq
23:42 < fake> ldconfig is segfaulting. without ltrace/strace able to compile - how can i find out what's wrong?
23:46 < SMP> Ge0rG: I talked to Clifford about that at 18C3. he said he'd disable sysreq (again) because it's security problem (with is correct IMO)
23:47 < Ge0rG> SMP: sure it is, but everyone who can spell security builds his own kernel anyway :)
23:48 * Ge0rG remembers the rocklinux stand on 18C3
23:48 < SMP> security should be for everyone
23:48 < SMP> even if it is sometimes hard to do
23:49 < fake> can nobody gimme a hint?
23:49 < SMP> /usr/bin/gdb
23:49 < fake> gdb doesn't work
23:49 < SMP> uh-oh
23:49 < fake> well gdb works, but it doesn't report the problem.
23:49 < SMP> printf()-debugging then
23:49 < SMP> ;-(
23:49 < fake> SMP> *ugh*
23:50 < fake> well.. what the hell. it's just 2 .c files.
23:50 < fake> ld.so :D
23:53 < fake> *ARGH*
23:53 < fake> it's even worse
23:53 < fake> i just copied over debian's strace
23:53 < huebi> I just found sth: "Internet Public Access Guide" - "A Guide for Accessing the Internet through Unix-based Computer Systems" from 1994
23:53 < huebi> kool!
23:54 < fake> it works for some libraries, but then it segfaults. guess what? always segfaulting when working on another lib.
23:54 < fake> this is uber-nasty
23:54 < huebi> 29 lines about www. hehe
23:54 < fake> old_mmap(NULL, 228416, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 4, 0) = 0x2aaa9000
23:55 < fake> --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
23:56 < fake> no, i have to correct: seems to be at libreadline...
23:57 < fake> nope.
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