--- Log opened Sat Jun 29 00:00:00 2002
--- Day changed Sat Jun 29 2002
00:12 < rxr> re
00:14 * SMP trying to write devfs support for the javastation flash driver
00:17 < SMP> the javastations are _really_ missing some local attached writable memory :(
00:18 < SMP> like a smart-card
00:21 < fake> SMP: SunRay ;)
00:21 < fake> doesn't it have a com-port?
00:21 < SMP> yes, there is a serial port
00:21 < huebi> fake: Does not boot linux ;( JavaStation E - + smartCard + ide!
00:22 < th> re
00:22 < SMP> SunRays are _no_ comparison to the JavaStations
00:22 < fake> SMP: you can connect a towitoko chipdrive then
00:22 < fake> i know!
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00:22 < fake> but they _do_ have SmartCard Readers .
00:22 < SMP> I know ;)
00:24 < SMP> well the concept of using the flash in the JS is to be able to operate standalone
00:24 < SMP> and use a modem on the serial port
00:25 < SMP> so a smartcard device on the serial port is of limited use ;)
00:25 < fake> then use NAS :P
00:25 < huebi> n8
00:26 < fake> huebi: n8!
00:26 < SMP> g'night huebi
00:28 < SMP> besides if I'd want to buy and operate the JavaStation with any extra storage device I wouldn't use a JavaStation in the first place ;)
00:30 < fake> SMP: then stop whining ;)
00:31 < SMP> pfft ;p
00:44 < th> SMP: is there no way to access flashfs yet?
00:46 < SMP> there is.
00:46 < th> but?
00:47 < SMP> I hate mknod  ;>
00:47 < SMP> and you also can't boot off it with a devfs kernel
00:48 < th> ahh. but it would be possible to mount the flash by using mknod before?
00:48 < SMP> yup
00:48 < th> but i would need to put it back into the krups
00:48 < th> and i don't know if i could boot it from nfs then
00:49 < SMP> have you enabled openprom yet?
00:50 < th> no
00:50 < th> i'm just using the machine. shame on me
00:50 < SMP> you can 'boot net' from the ok prompt
00:50 < th> well... except from some bugreporting
00:50 < SMP> shame on you! ;p
00:51 < th> i do enable the obp by setting some jumpers?
00:51 < SMP> yup
00:51 < th> possible to set boot net as the default?
00:51 < SMP> on the jumper field near the speaker
00:52 < SMP> no, unfortunately the Krups does not have an NVRAM and so you can't set OBP variables :(
00:53 < th> removing the flash can't be the only way to enable net-booting without OBPing every time
00:53 < th> huebi: ping
00:54 < SMP> looks like it really is
00:55 < th> so we need rootfs on flash
00:55 < SMP> well not quite
00:55 < th> so go on writing devfs support for the flash driver :)
00:55 < SMP> you can boot a kernel from flash and have it use nfsroot
00:55 < th> aehm. ok
00:57 < SMP> this is also needed to be able to easily reprogram the flash
00:57 < th> is there anything the ./scripts/Update script is good for in recent 1.5 times?
00:58 < SMP> since the flash filesystem is always read-only and the jflash device (char dev) denies writing when the flash is mounted
00:58 < SMP> which is always the case when it's the root fs ;)
00:59 < th> yes
01:01 < SMP> well, one could boot with /linuxrc from flash and change the root fs from there :>>
01:02 < SMP> create a ramdisk, copy all flash into it, umount ramdisk, tell the kernel to umount / continue with the ramdisk as root
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01:06 < SMP> fortunately, the JavaStation does not lack RAM
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01:07 < SMP> 64MB is quite a chunk for such a device. even on SPARC
01:07 < th> 10MB used here...
01:07 < th> some gettys and ssh
01:14 < th> SMP: what's the cvsweb url?
01:14 < SMP> www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/
01:14 < SMP> IIRC ;)
01:14 < owl> g8. bye
01:15 < th> is it possible to split windows with screen?
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01:17 < th> SMP: ouhm. /home/rockwww/www.cvs.rocklinux.de/htdocs is empty?!
01:17 < th> but aliased?
01:17 < SMP> th: C-a S
01:18 < th> great
01:18 < SMP> yes, it's an alias
01:18 < th> it's splitable
01:18 < th> gimme some more hotkeys please
01:18 < SMP> C-a ?
01:18 < th> grmpf
01:18 < th> ;)
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01:21 < th> was gpm still oopsing?
01:21 < SMP> on the Krups?
01:21 < SMP> never tried it
01:22 < fake> SMP: how do i close the C-a S again? ;-)
01:22 < th> where is /cvs/ aliased to?
01:22 < SMP> fake: C-a X
01:22 < fake> ah.
01:22 < th> is there a vertical split?
01:23 < fake> screen has so many options...
01:23 < SMP> or better C-a Q
01:23 < SMP> th: I don't think so :>
01:23 < th> vim introduced vertical split in 6.0
01:24 < SMP> ScriptAlias /cvs/ /usr/local/viewcvs-0.9.2/cgi/
01:24 < th> thanks
01:27 < th> i adapted Build-Index now to generate recent INDEX files with www.cvs.rocklinux.de reference
01:34 < th> SMP: what does C-a-f do? it's called "flow"
01:36 < SMP> man screen | less +/^FLOW-
01:40 -!- SMP changed the topic of #rocklinux to: call 900-R0CKLINUX now for some daring, naked hotkeys waiting for _your_ soft touch or firm press now !!!
01:40 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux / http://www.rocklinux.org/
01:40 < SMP> hungh
01:41 -!- SMP changed the topic of #rocklinux to: call 900-R0CKLINUX now for some daring, naked hotkeys waiting for _your_ soft touch or firm press now !!!
01:41 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux / http://www.rocklinux.org/
01:41 < SMP> gna!
01:41 < SMP> one last try ;p
01:41 -!- SMP changed the topic of #rocklinux to: call 900-R0CKLINUX now for some daring, naked hotkeys waiting for _your_ soft touch or firm press now !!!
01:42 < SMP> yes!
01:42 < fake> *LOOOL*
01:42 < th> you were unidentified first?
01:42 < SMP> th: yes
01:42 < th> it's better that way then +t and the need to get op
01:43 < SMP> I sure agree
01:44 < th> there is no opt-config in cvs (rock-1.5)
01:44 < th> strange
01:44 < SMP> there never was one
01:44 < th> but where are the .pz and .conf files for opt-packages?
01:44 < th> in base-config?
01:45 < fake> diff: rock-src-mine/build/default-1.7.0-DEV-mips-IP22-R4400-generic-expert/root/usr/doc/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages/packages: Too many le
01:45 < fake> *LOL*
01:45 < SMP> there are not opt-packages and so there are no .pz and .conf files for them
01:45 < SMP> all there is is opt-archive/INDEX
01:47 < th> hmm
01:48 < th> base/opt was what i meant with opt-packages
01:49 < SMP> base packages call the x function in Build-Pkg
01:49 < SMP> opt packages call the o function in Build-Pkg
01:49 < SMP> see scripts/packages
01:49 < SMP> and base.config/*/*.pz
01:50 < th> scripts/packages is a manual-maintained textfile listing all base-packages?
01:50 < SMP> no, scripts/Puzzle generates it
01:51 < th> ahh from .pz files?
01:51 < SMP> yes
01:51 < th> but why is it present in cvs?
01:51 < SMP> Build-All just _executes_ scripts/packages
01:51 < th> if it is puzzled it shouldnt
01:51 < SMP> it's a wonderful hack
01:52 < SMP> th: then we are two who know that generated files don't belong into cvs
01:52 < SMP> and it is of course not in my BitKeeper tree
01:54 < th> SMP: well. we put ext-config/INDEX-1.5 into cvs to be able update extensions with wget
01:55 < SMP> that's superfluous
01:56 < th> why?
01:56 < SMP> ext-config/INDEX.IN
01:56 < th> i like to be able to update the extensions on a system
01:57 < th> SMP: and INDEX.IN references INDEX-1.5 via cvsweb
01:57 < SMP> yes. so no need for INDEX-1.5 to be in cvs
01:57 < th> if it wouldnt be in cvs INDEX.IN would not work
01:58 < th> if INDEX-1.5 would not be in cvs. INDEX.IN's reference would result in 404
01:58 < SMP> aiii!
01:58 * SMP cries
01:58 * th waits for SMP to finish
01:59 < SMP> why is there _yet_ _another_ ext-config/ copy in the 1.5 cvs?!
01:59 < th> i don't understand
02:00 < th> which copy?
02:01 < SMP> not a copy..
02:01 < SMP> worse!
02:01 < SMP> a fork of the rock-package ext-config/ tree at sourceforge
02:01 < th> rock-1.5 does NOT use sourceforge
02:02 < SMP> so ext authors must use YET ANOTHER cvs tree?!
02:02 < th> cvs.rocklinux.de
02:02 < th> ack
02:02 < SMP> I'm beginning to understand
02:02 < rxr> n8#
02:03 < th> n8 rxr 
02:03 < term_aweh> good night
02:03 < SMP> no wonder people swear at the ext authors
02:03 < SMP> because of broken packages
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02:04 < th> is there something rock-1.5 specific at sf?
02:04 < SMP> I put _my_ packages into the sf tree and I'm not going to maintain them in yet another copy someone creates of it
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02:05 < SMP> god damnit!
02:05 < SMP> th: no there isn't
02:05 < SMP> the ext-config tree from 1.3/1.4 is absolutely sufficient
02:05 < th> SMP: sounds like me some months ago
02:05 < th> but huebi started his own cvs-tree
02:06 < SMP> arrrgh this is stupid
02:07 < th> we even generate INDEX-1.4 from within rock-1.5 cvs-tree (cvs.rocklinux.de)
02:08 < th> and because there are no working tools to convert between 1.7 and 1.4/1.5 extensions in both directions we need two trees
02:08 < th> s,two trees,an extra tree for 1.7,
02:10 < SMP> so where in 1.5 is the curl.ext that exists in the sf ext-config tree?
02:11 < th> it's out of sync
02:12 < th> it's absent in 1.5
02:12 < th> perhaps we could set up a mechanism to keep both trees synced
02:13 < th> at least sf -> cvs.rocklinux.de direction
02:13 < th> but i think huebi wont like that
02:14 < th> he just accepts patches or a few people committing themself on cvs.rocklinux.de
02:14 < SMP> huebi has _nothing_ to say about ext-config
02:14 < SMP> he (and his commiters) have the power over everything _but_ ext-config
02:15 < th> rock-1.5 has an ext-config
02:15 < SMP> there should be as single file INDEX.IN in ext-config/
02:16 < th> nak
02:16 < SMP> and it shall reference the INDEX-1.4.all from sf
02:16 < th> rock-1.5 is incompatible to INDEX-1.4.all
02:16 < th> the syntax has changed
02:18 < SMP> bullshit
02:18 < th> guess why rock-1.5/scripts/Build-Index generates to versions of INDEX file? (INDEX-1.4 vs INDEX-1.5)
02:19 < th> it's to provide backward compatibility. so rock-1.4 installation can user rock-1.5's ext-config
02:20 < th> s,user,use,
02:20 < th> s,installation,installations,
02:20 < SMP> I'm sorry. I should have written 'and it shall reference the INDEX.all from sf'
02:20 < th> i know.
02:21 < th> -1.4 was introduced cause it was not possible to install from INDEX.all with 1.4 installation
02:21 < SMP> but anyway - the ext format is compatible and the ext-config layout at sf is, too
02:21 < th> yes.
02:21 < th> it is easy to adapt the INDEX-files
02:22 < th> it WOULD be possible to maintain a rock-1.5 with use of ext-config from sf
02:22 < SMP> so why the hell pull ext-config from sf?!
02:22 < th> ask huebi
02:22 < SMP> there used to 24 users with commit access
02:23 < th> he started his own cvs with a fork of ext-config
02:23 < SMP> many more than have commit access now
02:23 < SMP> oh god
02:23 < SMP> this is worse than I ever feared
02:26 < th> SMP: i have to prepare for the mate-trade tomorrow. getting the empty crates from Ge0rG.
02:28 < th> SMP: i'll be back in about 40 minutes
02:29 < SMP> jep, cu
02:43 * fake will go to bed really soon
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02:47 < mike1> lo
03:11 < mike1> cu
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03:14 < th> re
03:30 < SMP> didum
03:37 < th> didum?
03:46 < th> zzZZzz
03:47 < SMP> /root/rootfs.img on /mnt type cramfs (rw,loop=/dev/loop/0)
03:47 < SMP> hmm
03:47 < SMP> n8 th
03:51 < SMP> /dev/jsfd/0 on /mnt type cramfs (ro)
03:51 < SMP> jikes!
08:37 < huebi> moin
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09:09 < [anders]> re
09:09 < huebi> hi [anders]
09:10 < [anders]> morning huebi :)
09:14 * [anders] finished building the shuttle box last night.. trying to get Debian installed now..
09:18 < [anders]> at least the new cardbus ethernet card worked straight out of the box
09:20 < [anders]> I can thoroughly recommend the SS40G case... It is incredibly quiet when the fan is spun down..
09:25 < huebi> [anders]: do you have a URL to the case?
09:25 < [anders]> huebi: one sec..
09:26 < huebi> I'm trying to boot an Alpfh Personal Workstation 433a I got last evening from Ripclaw
09:26 < [anders]> url to viahardware review of the case : http://www.viahardware.com/ss40g_1.shtm
09:26 < huebi> *click*
09:27 < [anders]> url to hompage of makers : http://www.spacewalker.com
09:27 < [anders]> huebi: so how's it going with the alpha?
09:29 < [anders]> btw, when I bought the case, (barebone system), they shupped in the box an USB 2.0 PCI card also
09:30 < [anders]> s;shpped;shipped;
09:30 < [anders]> my speling is attrocious..
09:31 < huebi> I still try to find out how to boot the RH 7.1 CD
09:34 < [anders]> huebi: isn't there some sort of firmware you can enter that will assist you in booting the CD?
09:35 < [anders]> I think I heard someone say that you want to flip the Alpha from NT mode to Unix mode...
09:43 < huebi> [anders]: It's easy to flip that. also a VMS console is avaliable ;-))
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09:46 < huebi> moin snyke 
09:46 < snyke> moin
09:48 < [anders]> huebi: makes things easier ... :)
09:48 < [anders]> re snyke 
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09:56 < huebi> http://www.support.compaq.com/alpha-tools/redhat/ig/index.html <- Yes, I found it. And RH 7.2 is out, too
09:57 < [anders]> rh72 for dec ?
09:57 < [anders]> kewl...
09:57 * [anders] is very happy at the moment.. 
09:57 < huebi> http://www.support.compaq.com/alpha-tools/redhat/download.html
09:58 < [anders]> the new cardbus eth card is working perfectly in linux..
09:58 * [anders] not got an alpha..
09:58 < huebi> [anders]: kool
09:59 < [anders]> decided to go for a 3Com.. one of those with the built in connector.. So no wire to plug in the card before the eth cable..
09:59 < [anders]> which make things easier, less to remember to bring and less things to break..
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10:20 < [anders]> re netcrow 
10:20 < netcrow> Morgen
10:20 < [anders]> wie gehts?
10:21 < [anders]> or how it now is spelled...
10:21 < netcrow> good, thank you ;)
10:21 < netcrow> and you?
10:21 < huebi> hi netcrow 
10:22 < [anders]> netcrow: not bad thanks... :)
10:31 < huebi> YES! It boot off of the CD. I changed to a SCSI CDROM from my Ultra 30
10:32 < huebi> +s
10:37 < fake> mojen.
10:37 < fake> huebi: hast du schon abgeschickt? ich hoffe nich
10:37 < huebi> hi fake ;-)
10:38 < huebi> fake: Ich bin gerade am packen...
10:38 < fake> huebi: ich fahr heute eh BN->IN
10:38 < huebi> kool
10:38 < huebi> Kommst du vorbei?
10:38 < fake> mach ich halt so nen schlenker ;)
10:39 < huebi> fake: Wann kommst du so ungefaehr?
10:40 < fake> hm... muss noch schnell in der firma vorbei...
10:41 < huebi> * The Alpha installs "Rotkaeppchen"
10:41 < fake> ich bin so in ner stunde auf der autobahn hoffe ich
10:41 < fake> huebi: reicht es wenn ich dir das geld dann naechste woche ueberweise?
10:41 < huebi> ca 14h00 ?
10:42 < huebi> fake: jo. kannst du machen..
10:42 < fake> hm... ich brauche von BN->F ca. 1.5 stunden
10:42 < huebi> schoener waere es allerdings wenn du gleich bezahlen koenntest.
10:43 < fake> huebi: mom
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10:43 < bluefire> Moin
10:43 < huebi> hi bluefire 
10:44 < bluefire> huebi: Haben sich die Wogen wieder geglättet? Hat sich jemand als Webmaster gemeldet?
10:44 < huebi> spiegelblanke See. Nein, noch kein Webmaster in Sicht ;-))
10:45 < bluefire> Dumm das.
10:45 * bluefire bugfixing
10:49 < esden> morning
10:49 < fake> mornin!
10:53 < esden> huebi: r u here ?
10:53 < esden> morging fake 
10:54 < huebi> Jo esden I am here
10:54 < netcrow> hi esden 
10:54 < esden> hi netcrow 
10:54 < esden> hi huebi 
10:54 < esden> huebi: /me preparing the iso
10:54 < huebi> Moin esden ;-)) *froi*
10:55 < blindcoder> morning, everyone *yawn*
10:55 < esden> morning blindy
10:55 < huebi> esden: Ich habe jetzt herausgefunden, das RH 7.2 gibt.
10:56 < blindcoder> esden: Ich glaub ich weiss jetzt woran des mit meiner Verbindung liegt >_<
10:56 < esden> blindcoder: woran denn ?
10:56 < blindcoder> esden: mldonkey
10:56 < esden> huebi: ja redhat, debian und rocklinux ... sonnst noch was ?
10:57 < blindcoder> esden: packet los mit mldonkey: 56%
10:57 < blindcoder> esden: packet loss ohne mldonkey: 0%
10:57 < fake> blindcoder: hehehe.
10:57 < huebi> das CDROM wollte nicht booten, dann habe ich das alte aus meine Ultra 30 genoimmen und jetzt geht es.
10:57 < esden> blindcoder: ja dass habe ich mir auch gedacht als du gesagt hast dass als du deinen konkey aus hattest du eine lange verbindungs zeit hatteste
10:58 < blindcoder> fake: moin. hast du des bei dir daheim auch?
10:58 < esden> blindcoder: ja und deine verbindungen werden auch stabil gell ?
10:58 < blindcoder> mhm...
10:59 < esden> huebi: http://home.esden.net/rock/iso/rock-alpha-1.5.16.iso
11:00 < esden> blindcoder: dass kommt von dem dauer leechen ... ;-) 
11:01 < esden> naja ... ich brauche irgendeinen audio galaxy ersatz
11:01 < blindcoder> esden: :P
11:01 < esden> kazaa oder so ?
11:01 < fake> gnutella?
11:01 < esden> blindcoder: was schlaegst du vor
11:01 < esden> gnutella ... hmm
11:01 < fake> www.gnutella.org
11:03 < blindcoder> fake: hast du diese disconnects auch?
11:03 < fake> blindcoder: nicht dass ich wuesste... lasse edonkey aber auch gefirewallt laufen
11:03 < blindcoder> fake: hmm... also den port einfach geforwardet?
11:03 < fake> blindcoder: jep
11:04 * fake faehrt in die firma
11:05 < blindcoder> wieso das?
11:05 < fake> muss noch was erledigen
11:05 < netcrow> hehe, feuer legen
11:13 < Freak> is jemand wach?
11:13 < Freak> hilft mir jemand bei ner Rede?
11:13 < Freak> bin am verzweifeln
11:15 < esden> Freak: rede ? ueber was denn ?
11:15 < esden> hier sind keine sprachfutzies glaube ich ... ;-)
11:16 < Freak> esden: ich muss auf der Abifeier heute abend ne Rede über einen Lehrer halten
11:16 < Freak> wir haben ihm verschiedene Gegenstände gekauft, die für uns zu zwei Jahren mit ihm passen..
11:16 < Freak> unter anderem auch Wodka-Fläschchen, weil er mitgetrunken hat, als wir abends zusammen auf den Zimmern saßen während eines Ausflu
11:16 < Freak> gs.
11:17 < Freak> aber ich kann ja nicht sagen "wir haben uns kräftig besoffen und Herr K. war auch dabei"
11:17 < Freak> kann man das nicht irgendwie andeuten?!
11:17 < esden> aja dass ist klar
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11:18 < esden> wenn der DHR hier waehre koennte er es dir sagen ... aber ich bin nicht so sprachbegabt tut mir leid ...
11:18 < Freak> (: danke
11:18 < Freak> trotzdem
11:18 < Freak> naja ich hab noch ein paar Stunden Zeit, bis ich sie halten muss..
11:18 < Freak> und dann kann ich ja noch ein paar Deutsch-LKler fragen ;)
11:19 < esden> ojemene ... viel erfolg
11:19 < Freak> ;)
11:19 < Freak> wird schon.. *bibber*
11:19 < Freak> naja hab eh keine Zeit mehr, muss duschen & dann auch schon los zur Vorbereitung
11:19 < Freak> byebye & danke trotzdem :)
11:20 < esden> huebi: ziehst du im momment von mir ?
11:20 < huebi> esden: Wie ein grosser ;-)) 16KB/s
11:20 < esden> ja cu @ Freak 
11:21 < esden> huebi: kannst es nicht drosseln ? ;-)
11:21 < esden> ich muss mei bei mir qos einrichten
11:21 < huebi> esden: Ich weiss nicht wie.. mit Trfficshaper habe ich noch nichts gemacht.
11:21 < huebi> +a
11:22 < esden> ich will mir gerade gnome 2 ziehen und mein upstream bremst meinen downstream gewaltig
11:22 < blindcoder> what ports do I have to forward for a ssh connection? only 22 tcp/udp?
11:22 < esden> only 22 tcp afaik
11:22 < esden> argh ... /me getting hungry
11:23 < huebi> esden: /me too...
11:24 < esden> loool wer hat den topic gemacht ???
11:24 < esden> der ist echt cool
11:25 < blindcoder> esden: could you try to ssh to scavenger.homeip.net on port 2222
11:26 < blindcoder> hmm... the request is forwarded but the local sshd doesn't accept it >_<
11:27 < esden> blindcoder: hmm ... it seems not to work
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11:27 < blindcoder> moment... I increase the loglevel to DEBUG
11:27 < esden> hi term_emu 
11:28 < blindcoder> okay, it's the forwarding that doesn't work...
11:28 < term_emu> hi all
11:28 < blindcoder> hi term_emu 
11:29 < blindcoder> HA! GOT YA!!
11:29 < blindcoder> esden: try again, please
11:32 < huebi> The Alpha now installs RH 7.1. A little buggie RH. kernel panics while formating the hd.
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11:41 < esden> blindcoder: ssh: connect to address 80.128.12.10 port 2222: Connection refused
11:42 < blindcoder> sorry... 2202
11:42 < blindcoder> forgot to mention >_<
11:42 < esden> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
11:43 < esden> -> working
11:43 < blindcoder> okay, thanks!
11:43 < blindcoder> With that, I can goto lunch... ja ne
11:44 < esden> huebi: could you interrupt your download ? and continue in one hour ?
11:44 < fake> huebi?
11:45 < esden> I need my bandwith ... then I am out for eating and then you can suck my machine dry
11:49 < huebi> esden: I interupt it NOW
11:49 < fake> *argh*
11:49 < huebi> hi fake ?
11:50 < fake> huebi: the Anschlusstelle Seeheim-Jugenheim is on the A3 or the A67 ?
11:50 < huebi> A5
11:50 < fake> kewl. 
11:51 < fake> Jeder Routenplaner sagt mir Pfungstadt als Ausfahrt
11:51 < huebi> Darmstaedter Kreuz -> A5 -> Pfungstadt ->  Seeheim-Jugenheim
11:51 < huebi> fake: Die Routenplaner koennen halt nicht Autofahren. ;-)
11:51 < fake> aaah. cool. gut. dann bis in 1.5 stundne ~
11:51 < fake> huebi: ich auch nich ;)
11:51 < huebi> cu fake ;-)
11:52 < huebi> ich freue mich auf deinen Besuch 
11:52 < fake> aber erst trin ich noch mein kaffee aus.
11:52 < fake> wenn ich schonmal in der firma bin....
11:52 < huebi> hehe
11:53 < fake> hey... "Yellow Dog Linux 2.3 Released" they are also reported...
11:54 < fake> Yellow Dog Linux hat den 2.4.19 kernel
11:54 < fake> (de er noch nicht gibt)
11:54 < fake> s,de,den
11:58 < fake> i hate kernel changelogd
11:58 < fake> i hate kernel changelogds
11:58 < fake> >_<
11:58 < fake> egal. kaffee leer. auf gehts
11:58 < fake> *wink* baba
12:14 < blindcoder> ree hi
12:15 < esden> wink fake 
12:15 < esden> re blindcoder 
12:16 * -> esden stirbt gleich vor hunger ... >_<
12:16 < blindcoder> dann iss was
12:17 < th> moin!
12:17 < esden> ich darf nicht ... weil meine tollen eltern haben sich einfallen lassen dass die auf nem komischen sommerfest der firma von meinem vater essen wollen und nicht zuhause
12:17 < esden> argh
12:17 * -> esden killt gleich jemanden
12:17 < esden> hi th 
12:17 < th> oups
12:17 < th> hi esden 
12:18 < blindcoder> hi th
12:18 < blindcoder> esden: schmier dir ein paar brote
12:18 < esden> dass mache ich echt gleicht
12:18 < esden> -t
12:18 < th> huebi: anwesend?
12:18 < esden> jetzt bin ich gespannt ob die glib compilert
12:19 < esden> sie wollte nicht mit gcc2 compileren
12:19 < esden> aber die habe gemeint dass wenn man gcc3 nimmt dann soll es gehen
12:21 * -> esden braucht neuen gnome weil er antialiaste fonts ueberall haben will ;-)
12:21 < esden> ausserdem brauche ich den neuesten gimp !!!
12:22 < esden> jaa glib hat wirklich compiliert ..  geil ;-)
12:22 * th ist auf der suche nach einem consolenwebbrowser mit https support
12:23 < th> wie hiess dieses ding...
12:23 < esden> w3m ?
12:23 < esden> oder links ?
12:23 < th> w3m wars glaub ich
12:23 < esden> es gibt aber auch eine version von lynx die es auch kann
12:24 < th> naeh ich will bei der gelegenheit gleich frames :)
12:24 < esden> aja ... dann w3m oder links ... ich finde links sogar besser
12:25 < blindcoder> moving 1.1G over a 900kB/sec line is reeeaaally time-consuming >_<
12:26 < esden> get gigabit @ blindcoder 
12:26 < esden> fc gigabit or so
12:27 < blindcoder> That will come with my fileserver... a FibreOptic-Backbone to my Workstation :D
12:27 < esden> ahh ok 
12:27 * -> esden wants to earn money too >_<
12:28 * -> esden heul
12:28 < esden> +t
12:29 < blindcoder> then DO so
12:30 < rxr> re
12:30 < esden> re rxr 
12:30 < esden> long time no see @ rxr 
12:47 * blindcoder needs a cooling device for his harddisk >_<
12:48 < esden> get a water pipe and insert it in your bok
12:48 < esden> x
12:48 < esden> and then open the water
12:49 < esden> then all get's cooled ;-)
12:50 < blindcoder> jokey, aren't you?
12:50 < blindcoder> nah, I need Slot Fans like Eros has
12:50 < blindcoder> 23,99 EUR ;(
12:51 < esden> hmm ... why you do not switch for water cooling ... yes it is expensive and heavy .. but it is very performant and silent
12:51 < esden> and l33t ;-)
12:52 < blindcoder> cause that would be a "little" overkill for my temporary router/fileserver
12:52 < esden> lool ... yes
12:53 < esden> I need this in my main intel box ... but I need a lot of things ...
12:53 < esden> what I need more is a cooling device for my monitors
12:53 < esden> so that the heat is being carried out of my room ...
12:53 < blindcoder> yes.. me too
12:54 < blindcoder> turn them off
12:54 < blindcoder> work with your laptop via ssh
12:54 < esden> hahah .. lough ... you can not compile gnome2 with gcc2 ... you need gcc3 !!! *ROFL*
12:54 < esden> blindcoder: that is a good idea but I need my dual head setup
12:56 < blindcoder> use 2 laptops
12:58 < esden> wenn man vom teufel spricht ... slashdot: http://www.xentex.com/voyager/index.html
13:00 < blindcoder> douh
13:00 < esden> dass ist total scheisse wenn du mich fraegst
13:01 < blindcoder> sag mal...bin ich blöd oder mein filesystem?
13:01 < blindcoder> du sagt des Verzeichnis hat 1.1 Gig
13:01 < blindcoder> aber wenn ic die Dateigröße zusammenrechne bin ich auf 6 Gig
13:01 < esden> denn ich kan auch meinen laptop nehmen einen balken mitten in mein display reinbauen und dann habe ich auch 2 displays ... aber nicht doppelt so viel platz ... >_<
13:01 < blindcoder> hallo... das ist EIN display, aber der laptop ist FALTBAR
13:02 < esden> ohh ...
13:02 < esden> douh
13:03 < blindcoder> esden: kann du keine 6 gig verwalten9;2~? kann des sein?
13:04 < esden> ich ... 
13:04 < esden> 6 GIG verwalten ... nee dass ist zu viel fuer mich ...
13:04 < esden> ;-)
13:04 < blindcoder> <FLOOD>
13:05 < blindcoder> crazyhorse:~/scavenger/mldonkey-distrib/temp$ ls -lh
13:05 < blindcoder> total 1.1G
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-rw-r--    1 blindcod 1001         146M Jun 29 09:07 077412CA217FC0A784D335039C5CF9F8
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-rw-r--    1 blindcod 1001         147M Jun 29 09:07 0779BA4E5BE939616181F1D5C720DA8A
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         234M Jun 29 09:07 257CA1925C2A3B4DAD03FA9E431C49AD
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         223M Jun 29 09:07 266C5EB7514D77CC8D6C7AED29A4B11B
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         220M Jun 29 09:07 298457206ED7ED910833E99018F01FB3
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         186M Jun 29 09:07 4ABA838195B8B867D0DB386B54FA4DD4
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-rw-r--    1 blindcod 1001         137M Jun 29 09:07 53F3DE2077D5F82AE03F297389A9339C
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         173M Jun 29 09:08 583601C8DC7713B6B21C4E851584D857
13:05 < blindcoder> -rwxrwxr-x    1 blindcod 1001          33M Jun 29 09:07 593983D2505C445C51EBCBBAD273C936
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-rw-r--    1 blindcod 1001         187M Jun 29 09:07 6CE039DC93F6E650F5A9B59AB55E373E
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-rw-r--    1 blindcod 1001         163M Jun 29 09:07 7BC56A0CF953D07D56F07C19015AA37F
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-rw-r--    1 blindcod 1001         148M Jun 29 09:07 7EC2C5ED5089677CE674969B24C99FDE
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         238M Jun 29 09:07 85F29202EAC774C76C6F8CCACDD122B5
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         175M Jun 29 09:07 9787C685A614BC13D9DF308CDA58C04C
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         195M Jun 29 09:07 A09D4B14886EB3FD597F76C54C58A70A
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-rw-r--    1 blindcod 1001         160M Jun 29 09:07 A4EB5DE460FDB4B93BAD175005DD87BA
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         232M Jun 29 09:07 B5BE50A760B1B19A9003A6F7DA825A54
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         222M Jun 29 09:07 B71CBB3FE421BB045EFD94C10072485E
13:05 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         564M Jun 29 09:07 B99128E049F681E607265BD078EB1E32
13:06 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         197M Jun 29 09:07 C2F00EAA9D515D0CDC764DFE0A6F5856
13:06 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         131M Jun 29 09:07 C93874A088EBAC74E438945973F3AA31
13:06 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         172M Jun 29 09:07 DC34165F6B139DC0FCBAC19D6E68FE47
13:06 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         664M Jun 29 09:07 DDEA8CA5F91CDC10EA1DC95B1166EF79
13:06 < blindcoder> -rw-rw-r--    1 blindcod 1001         277M Jun 20 12:34 EB05059B61DCD7F21B8983F62F2E86C0
13:06 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         235M Jun 29 09:07 EE4F62D40FA1A32808ADDEFA6839C347
13:06 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         137M Jun 29 09:07 EEAF9AEC8A788F1C4A46415D5FCB0321
13:06 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         288M Jun 29 09:07 F88313FFF807615F2A26421C117B74C9
13:06 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         160M Jun 29 09:07 F9FB4840A0833C07AF18788A0929439B
13:06 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         163M Jun 29 09:07 FCF4C57B3DF859465A85E842CB6AE17E
13:06 < blindcoder> -rw-r--r--    1 mysql    1001         233M Jun 29 09:07 FE1BEDD0C4723952D14063C9B25417FB
13:06 < blindcoder> </FLOOD>
13:06 < blindcoder> so, jetzt erklär mir das total 1.1G
13:07 < esden> vielleicht sind es hardlinks ;-)
13:07 < esden> nee ich habe keine ahnung ...
13:07 < blindcoder> ganz sicher nicht
13:07 < esden> ist vielleicht ein bug im ls ... ka
13:07 < blindcoder> hmmm oder ext3 macht automatische compression :D
13:08 < esden> hmm ... wieso nicht ...
13:08 < blindcoder> weil das meiste in diesen files ist NULL
13:08 < esden> tja dann kann man es gut komprimieren ...
13:08 < esden> ;-)
13:09 < blindcoder> sicher
13:18 * -> esden out hunting
13:26 < huebi> re
13:29 < blindcoder> re huebi 
13:30 < huebi> hi blindcoder 
13:33 < blindcoder> huebi: I've found why the link from /usr/share/terminfo to /usr/lib/terminfo is missing. it's the isofs
13:34 < blindcoder> I'm currently testing it with a tar.bz2 that has to be untar'ed onto the harddisk. That should help with this problem
13:34 < huebi> blindcoder: Ok
13:34 < blindcoder> that's why ncurses and and ./scripts/Config weren't working with the build-cd
13:36 < huebi> blindcoder: can you give me the link to your resources again? ;-)
13:37 < blindcoder> http://www.crash-override.net/rocklinux/becd.tar.bz2
13:37 < blindcoder> but that one's currently not working because of the softlink-problem
13:38 < huebi> *Ctrl-D*
13:38 < blindcoder> :)
13:39 * huebi burning RH 7.2 for alpha...
13:45 < th> ah huebi!
13:45 < huebi> moin th ;-))
13:45 < th> endlich mal erwischt
13:51 < huebi> fake ist da ;-)))
13:51 < th> gruss an fake
13:52 < rxr> bye
13:54 < blindcoder> fake: how ahve you done it with mldonkey? it's now on my workstation (with the ports forwarded) and again i have packet losses @30$%
13:56 < th> blindcoder: sind bei deinen 1.1GB hardlinks dabie?
13:56 < blindcoder> th> nein
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14:54 < uninvited> Guten Tag ! Hello !
14:55 < netcrow> Hello unefinded 
14:55 < netcrow> s/unefinded/undefinded
14:56 < uninvited> ?
15:06 < huebi> th: Gruss zurueck ;-)
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15:25 < esden> 850K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 58% @   1.49 KB/s
15:26 < esden> urgh scheisse ist dass langsam ...
15:26 < esden> naja ... egal
15:26 < blindcoder> esden: tja
15:26 < blindcoder> esden: jetzt hab ich meinen mldonkey so konfiguriert wie der fake und immer noch 30% packet loss und verbindungsabbrüche >_<
15:26 < uninvited>  langsam?
15:26 < esden> ich werde meinen router echt neu installieren muessen
15:27 < esden> mit qos >_<
15:27 < fake> hullo
15:27 < esden> ich freue mich schon darauf dass wir im bitz dsl haben ... dass wird rasen >_<
15:28 < esden> re fake
15:28 < blindcoder> re fake
15:28 < esden> wo bischt ?beim huebi ?
15:28 < uninvited> hihi
15:29 < fake> esden: jop.
15:29 < esden> huebi ... der iso leecher ;-)
15:29 < fake> hehe.
15:29 < fake> esden: killall -9 sshd
15:29 < fake> ne
15:29 < fake> is ja gar nich scp.
15:29 < fake> :)
15:29 < esden> ist wget ... rate ich mal ;-)
15:29 < huebi> esden: das duert noch: 150528K ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ ........ 26% @  16.31 KB/s
15:30 < esden> wieviel prozent von der iso hat er schon ?
15:30 < esden> asoo
15:30 < fake> du sehen
15:30 < esden> ja ich sehen
15:31 < fake> ich bin wieder wech -> muss weiter
15:31 < esden> die ssh session auf den apollo fuehlt sich an alsob ich an einer 9600 baud leitung haengen wuerde ...
15:32 < esden> gute weiterfahrt @ fake 
15:32 < huebi> ..und brenn mal eine JavaStation CD-ISO
15:32 < fake> esden: IP-over-Buschtrommel
15:32 < fake> danke!
15:32 < fake> bis nacher. esden: bis du heute abend im bitz?
15:32 < esden> bitte !
15:32 < fake> oder poppst du ?
15:32 < esden> fake es kommt drauf an wann du da bist
15:32 < esden> ich poppe nicht ich mache schluss ;-)
15:33 < fake> ich bin ab 19:00 etwa in der stadt und treff mich mit owl
15:33 < esden> *gg*
15:33 * -> esden braucht seine freiheit ;-)
15:33 < fake> im ernst?
15:33 < esden> 19 uhr ist gut ich bin bis 20 uhr im bitz
15:33 < fake> kewl.
15:33 < esden> man sieht sich @ fake
15:33 < esden> bringe owl verbei
15:34 < fake> dann sehen wir uns ja. gehst du dann heute abend nicht ins kino wenn du schluss machen willst?
15:34 < esden> ich schulde ihr einen knuddel ;-)
15:34 < esden> fake: weiss ich nech nicht
15:34 * fake aergert sich dass er kein Op ist ... /kick esden
15:34 < esden> danke fake
15:34 < fake> ;p
15:34 * -> esden fuehlt sich getreten
15:35 < fake> danke, sehr feinfuehlig ;)
15:35 < esden> ahh tut dass gut ;-)
15:35 < fake> also, bis heute abend
15:35 < esden> ja bis dann
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15:42 < uninvited> What is this...a NETSPLIT ?
15:44 < esden> that happens when two irc servers of the OPN network loose connection
15:44 < esden> to eachother
15:45 < uninvited> ok. sounds cool.
15:45 < uninvited> sound mean
15:46 < esden> ahh merlin manson ... or how his name is being spelled ... I love his sound ...
15:47 < esden> he is ill but makes a really good music!
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15:48 < uninvited> Marylin Manson - I don t like the drugs, the drugs like ME !
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15:48 < uninvited> kinda weirdo guy
15:49 < esden> yes ... that is true 
15:49 < esden> korn rulez too
15:50 < esden> *headbang*
15:51 < uninvited> did you see that korn video in manga style ?
15:51 < esden> yes I have! that was really cool
15:52 < esden> guys do you know OroborOSX
15:52 < esden> that is a free clone of the aqua user interface of OS X
15:53 < esden> but it is only working on OS X >_<
15:53 < esden> I want aqua on my intel/alpha
16:30 * blindcoder has found the ultimate solution for using a computer:
16:30 < esden> as a hammer ?
16:30 < blindcoder> using a Human Brain Interface during artificial coma
16:31 < esden> hurgh ?
16:31 < blindcoder> esden: klar. du wirst in ein künstliches Koma versetzt während du an deinen Computer angeschlossen bist und künstlich ernährt wirst
16:31 < blindcoder> somit wären die 2 größten Zeitfresser eliminiert :D
16:32 < esden> blindcoder: zu viel .hack/sign geschaut ?
16:32 < blindcoder> :D
16:32 < blindcoder> achja: .hack//sign ist ein PS2 Spiel
16:32 < esden> ich habe gewusst dass es ist !!!
16:32 < esden> YESSS!!!
16:32 < blindcoder> die .hack//sign OVAs werden jeweils mit den vier Teilen des Spiels ausgeliefert
16:32 < esden> Ich bin ein hellseher !!!
16:32 < esden> heute ist auch ein ungerader tag
16:32 < blindcoder> die ersten 2 gibts schon
16:33 < esden> dass passt !!!
16:33 < esden> ;-)
16:33 < esden> blindcoder: wann hast du dass spiel da ... oder hast es schon runtergeladen ?
16:34 < blindcoder> weder noch
16:34 < esden> dass spiel heisst world oder ?
16:34 < blindcoder> PS2... kein PS2 Emulator bislang
16:34 < esden> wieso nicht ?
16:34 < blindcoder> keine ahnung... des stand in dem thread nicht drin
16:34 < esden> asoo ... naja dann lege dir ne ps2 zu
16:34 < esden> hehe ... du musst dir viel zulegen @ bc
16:35 * blindcoder hits esden around with a large trout
16:35 < esden> yess ... that is fun !! MORE ! MORE!
16:35 * blindcoder stops sadistically
16:36 < huebi> Sooo. fake ist wieder unterwegs.
16:36 < esden> hmm ... ok ... I was punisched enough 
16:36 * blindcoder knocks esden out
16:36 < huebi> esden: MuuuhhHHHAAARRRGGGLLLll!!
16:36 < esden> huebi: ich hoffe du hast ihn auf die fahrt gut verpflegt ;-)
16:37 < esden> blindcoder: #-)
16:37 < esden> papa huebi hat sich bestimmt gut um unseren faki schnucki putzi gekuemmert ;-)
16:38 < esden> ahh depeche mode rult
16:38 < huebi> LOOOL
16:38 < esden> motherless child ist eins der besten lieder die die gemacht haben ... 
16:39 < esden> sometimesss I feeel like a motheeeerless child *sing*
16:39 < huebi> Jo, fake ist mit der JavaStation mit 64MB! und Einem kompletten Abbild der Bootumgebung auf CD sowie der Netra J 3.0 Software von dannen gezogen.. ;-)
16:40 < esden> ja dass ist ne gute verpflegung ;-)
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17:06 < esden> ROCK Linux developer: The nice ROCK from the neighbourhood. ;-)
17:06 < esden> Guys do you know where from comes the orginal ?
17:17 < esden> hahahaha ... *lol* the orginal tainted love is from depeche mode !!! uaaa ... cool !!! *jump*
17:18 < huebi> cu later ... Feschtle...
17:19 < esden> Fesch was ?
17:19 < esden> ok cu
17:20 < huebi> jo Mit grillenn und Bier...
17:21 < esden> asoo ... viel spass ;-)
17:27 < uninvited> cool qdsl liefert die ip-addresse gleich mit ;-)
17:29 < esden> uninvited: no_O
17:29 < esden> I mean o_O
17:37 < SMP> kitz
17:38 < esden> hi SMP 
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17:51 * SMP off
17:52 < esden> cu SMP 
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18:06 < uninvited> Ciao all !
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18:31 < esden> cu all
18:37 < [anders]> bizarre.... if i run the 2.4.18-k7 (or 686) on the shuttle, I do not get PCI access...
19:05 < esden> re hi all
19:06 < [anders]> rehi esden
19:07 < esden> [anders]: do you know steve vai ?
19:08 < [anders]> esden: no, sorry.. who is he?
19:08 < esden> he is one of the most tallented young guitarist currently
19:09 < [anders]> esden: soz, never heard of him.. :)
19:09 < esden> get some of tracks he played you will be amazed ... of course if you like rock
19:09 < esden> ;-)
19:09 < [anders]> rock, pop, classic, trance, dance.. I listen to most.. :)
19:09 < esden> good ... try it you will love it ;-)
19:09 < [anders]> ;-)
19:09 < [anders]> where do I get the track(s)
19:10 < esden> hmm ... AG is no more working ... 
19:10 < esden> kazaa or gnutella ...
19:10 < [anders]> ok
19:11 < [anders]> xnap perhaps..
19:11 < esden> hmm .. that should work too
19:11 < esden> I hope
19:11 < esden> ;-)
19:12 < [anders]> bought some CD-R media today.. I didn't know CD-R could be written at 32x speed nowadays..
19:15 < esden> yes it is possible .. but do not try to run this disks in any older cdplayer when you burn at a such speed ;-)
19:15 < [anders]> :)
19:23 < [anders]> erk.. have to try and figure out why kernel 2.2.20 works and 2.4.18 doesn't....
19:25 < th> btw. 2.2.21 is out ;)
19:26 * [anders] wants 2.4.x
19:38 < [anders]> hoookay.. trying to make a .deb of 2.4.19-rc1
19:40 < [anders]> should be a bit quicker now when the ram and the cpu both run on a 133 MHZ FSB rather than the 100MHz default.. ;-)
19:45 < esden> cu all
19:45 < [anders]> cu esden 
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20:36 < tsa> tag
20:37 < fake> chullo.
20:37 < tsa> hi fake
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21:04 < th> is it possible to compile mod_ssl as a shared object so that no patching of apache-source is necc.?
21:16 < tsa> hm..dunno.
21:17 < tsa> might cause problems within EAPI
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22:01 < uninvited> hi
22:07 < tsa> hi uninvited
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22:37 < uninvited> hi tsa
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22:41 < thalerim> guten abend
22:42 < [anders]> re thalerim 
22:42 < thalerim> rxr: being here?
22:42 < thalerim> hi anders :)
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22:44 * thalerim is sitting back to his chair and enjoys the "funny" violence of an old series of Celebrity Deathmatch on MTV 
22:45 < thalerim> rxr: tuut!
22:47 < tsa> hi thalerim
22:47 < tsa> hi bluefire
22:47 < tsa> thalerim: hm...rxr was pretty quiet during the last days..
22:47 < bluefire> hi tsa (re)
22:47 < tsa> ;-)
22:48 < thalerim> tsa: i'm not looking for you, but nice to meet you anyway ;)
22:48 < thalerim> uhm, what's a pity
22:48 < tsa> hehe..
22:48 < tsa> i don't know about rxr...perhaps he has some other work to get done..
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22:48 < mike1> Hi
22:49 < tsa> hi mike1
22:49 < mike1> How are you Sebastian?
22:49 < thalerim> I wanted to say, that libsvg is out of date - the developers might got crazy and jumped from 1.16 to 2.0
22:50 < thalerim> i assume it's because of the GNOME 2.0 release... it looks more pretty libsvg-2.0 on GNOME 2.0 :->
22:51 < thalerim> anyone here being ready to take this job over?
22:52 < thalerim> hey kool
22:52 < thalerim> SOAD on MTV
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22:55 < thalerim> "And we are the ones that want to chose, always want to play, but you never want to lose."
22:55 < thalerim> Aerials, in the sky, when you lose small mind, you free your life.
22:55 < thalerim> SOAD rocks
22:57 < uninvited> what is SOAD, i only know SOAP !
22:57 < thalerim> System Of A Down
22:58 < uninvited> i see
22:58 < uninvited> Aeon Flux rocks
22:58 < thalerim> :P
22:59 < thalerim> In Extremo, Corvus Corax, Eichenschild ... :P
23:23 < huebi> moin
23:23 < thalerim> moin huebi (:
23:23 < huebi> esden: Kannst du mal http://home.esden.net/ wieder einschalten?
23:23 < tsa> huhu huebi
23:23 < huebi> hi thalerim 
23:23 < huebi> hi tsa 
23:24 < thalerim> pro7 -> AHX
23:24 < tsa> ahx?
23:24 * huebi nis faernseen
23:24 < th> huebi: ?
23:25 < huebi> hi th`
23:25 < th> oha`
23:25 < huebi> das Feschtle war schoen ;)
23:25 < th> und jetz torkelste auf der tastatatur rum?
23:25 < th> huebi: meine mail gelesen?
23:26 < huebi> th: Nee, noch nicht.
23:27 < th> na dann mal husch ;-)
23:27 < huebi> Torkeln noch nicht so ganz - aber gleich ;-)
23:27 < tsa> hehe
23:28 < thalerim> tsa: American History X
23:28 < tsa> achso.
23:32 < th> huebi: kannst du mir mal erklaeren warum base-archive/INDEX im cvs is?
23:32 < th> oder bist du dazu jetzt nicht in der lage?
23:33 < huebi> Die idee dahinter war/ist, das nach einem cvs co kein ./scripts/Puzzle notwendig ist.
23:34 < huebi> Da sich aber das laufend aendert, die Datei sowieso generiert ist schliesse ich mich der Meininug an, das die aus dem cvs herausgenommen wird.
23:34 < th> danke
23:34 < th> ich mache das dann jetzt
23:35 < th> done
23:35 < huebi> th: super ;)
23:35 < huebi> danke
23:35 < th> ich ueberlege gerade ob es sinn macht, in base-config irgendwelche index-files einzufuehren
23:36 < th> das wuerde das sourcen-updaten per wget-script analog zu den exts ermoeglichen
23:36 < th> und gebaut werden die dann auch mit dem Build-Index
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23:37 < th> *auf statement von huebi wart*
23:38 * huebi mit fgrau quatsch ...
23:41 * th hat jetz auch ext-archive/INDEX geflext
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