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--- Log opened Mon Jul 01 00:00:01 2002
--- Day changed Mon Jul 01 2002
00:00 < huebi> +B
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00:09 * th is bad in bash-scripting...
00:09 < th> how to check wether ! -f file1 OR ! -f file2?
00:09 < th> if [ ! -f foo1 || ... ] doesn't seem to work
00:10 < SMP> s,OR,-o,
00:10 < th> oh
00:10 < th> ok
00:10 < th> tried || before
00:10 < SMP> and it's not bash.1, it's test.1
00:10 < th> yepp. i knew that
00:11 < SMP> so since the shell interprets ||, it can't be an argument to [
00:11 < th> hmm ok
00:11 < th> but i can us ! for not?
00:12 < SMP> the shell does not interpret _that_ :>
00:12 < th> hmm
00:12 < th> what about ()?
00:12 < SMP> (yes, I know history expansion)
00:13 < SMP> () need to be escaped
00:13 < th> but group logical terms?
00:13 < SMP> you better read test.1 ;-}
00:13 < th> grmpf ack
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00:27 < th> huebi: Update-new seems quite usable now
00:27 < huebi> th: jo.
00:27 < th> gerade nochmal committed
00:28 < huebi> ok
00:34 < th> funktioniert jetzt sowohl auf base-config als auch auf ext-config
00:35 < th> und ein scripts/Update-new . matched alles und macht daher alles neu
00:36 < huebi> Ich werde das morgen mal testeten.
00:36 < esden> re hi all
00:36 < esden> hmm
00:37 < th> huebi: wenn du nochmal einen blick auf Build-Index-new werfen willst... ich wuerde es gern gegen das Build-Index  ersetzen. damit das Update auch auf die base tut
00:37 < esden> this gnome is reallyyy slooow ... at least at starting the applications 
00:37 < esden> what is this thing doing
00:37 < esden> huebi: ja ich weiss
00:37 < SMP> ich glaub ja nicht, dass ihr scripts/*-new commited :(((
00:38 < esden> ich muss die batterie austauschen .. habe ich gerade wieder gemerkt ... /me hat seine ganzen kisten abgeschossen gerade
00:38 < esden> douh
00:38 < SMP> oder wofuer CVS tags...
00:38 < SMP> bzw. branches
00:38 < th> SMP: nun. wenn ein -new da ist, kann das parallel zum alten getestet weerden ohne dass man immer gleich mit -r updaten muss
00:39 < tsa> n8
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00:39 < SMP> klar, und wenn man genug getestet hat, benennt man es um und die revision history geht den Bach runter
00:39 < SMP> NOT!
00:40 < th> wozu brauch man die da auch ;>
00:40 < th> und die history ist doch garnicht tot
00:41 < th> ist ja noch in -new drin
00:41 < SMP> %=$)§$(/$
00:41 < th> EPARSE
00:42 < th> SMP: wenn es den gleichen namen tragen wuerde koennten beide versionen nicht nebeneinander existieren um zum einen testen zu koennen und zum anderen noch funktionierend Indexen zu koennen
00:44 < SMP> man _kann_ zwei cvs checkouts gleichzeitig haben
00:44 < th> ja komplette checkouts
00:45 < th> ich kann gut und gerne auf die revision history von einem 20-zeiler verzichten (obwohl ich das ja nichtmal muss) wenn ich dafuer beide files nebeneinander habe zum vergleich und test
00:45 < SMP> aargl
00:45 < th> ja?
00:46 < SMP> cp scripts/Update scripts/Update-old
00:46 < th> pedantisch gesehen hast du natuerlich recht und bin ich deiner meinung
00:46 < SMP> vi scripts/Update
00:46 < SMP> cvs ci (mit branch)
00:47 < th> echo "ich bin stolz auf mich"
00:47 < SMP> --verbose
00:49 < huebi> for i in `echo *bz2`; do bunzip2 $i ; done <- wie bekomme ich denn das bunzip in den Hintergrund, so das mehrere Processe entstehen?
00:49 < esden> argh gnome2 hat eine registry !!! 
00:50 < SMP> huebi: for i in `echo *bz2`; do bunzip2 $i & done
00:50 < SMP> ugh. und das echo ist auch pfui da ;>
00:50 < SMP> for i in *bz2 ; do bunzip2 $i & done
00:50 < SMP> reicht ;)
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00:50 < huebi> SMP: Danke ;-))
00:58 < esden> n8
00:59 < huebi> n8 esden 
01:04 < huebi> so... 1.5.16 entpackt sich jetzt auf der alpha. Das Rescue system von RH taugt nicht viel. kein bzip2 dabei ;(
01:05 < huebi> und tar kann keine tief verschachtelten Verzeichnisse erzeugen ;(
01:06 < huebi> ... und keine hardlinks...
01:07 < SMP> ist es vielleicht gar kein tar?
01:08 < huebi> SMP: Jo, eine uralte busybox v0.52pre
01:08 < huebi> 2001-07-09
01:09 < huebi> Was fuer ein Bloedsinn! Die CD laest sich natuerlich auch nicht unmounten.
01:11 < huebi> wie ist rotkaeppchen eigendlich Marktfuehrer geworden? Irgendwie funktioniert hier einiges wesendlich schlechter, als bei Rocklinux.
01:12 < SMP> aber vieles besser
01:14 < huebi> Jo, da ist einiges besser, aber nicht die Sachen, die ich benutzen will, und auf deren Funktion ich groessten Wert lege. Wie z.B. ein echtes, unabhaengiges Rescuesystem.
01:14 < Freak> du hast rock gegen rh getauscht?!
01:14 < huebi> Freak: Nein! ;-)
01:15 < Freak> ogott ich dachte schon..!
01:15 < huebi> Ich habe das nur genommen, um ROCK auf die Alpha zu kopieren.
01:15 < Freak> hätts da nicht ne bessere möglichkeit gegeben..
01:16 < huebi> Die Alpha CPU wird wirklich ganz schoen heftig warm ....
01:19 < huebi> Freak: bestimmt ;>
01:19 < SMP> netboot waere wohl schmerzfreier gewesen ;)
01:20 < huebi> SMP: Bestimmt. Jetzt entpacke ich mit dem neuen, echtem tar noch einmal alles.
01:21 < huebi> SMP: Debian funktioniert garantiert besser.
01:23 < huebi> RH ist halt fuer EnterpriCe Kunden gedacht ;>
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01:59 < huebi> n8. alpha macht Fortschritte ;-))
02:02 < SMP> n8 huebi 
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07:03 < [anders]> riiight....
07:04 < SMP> right
07:04 < [anders]> The LKML answer as to why a 2.4.18 kernel doesn't work on a FS40 (SHuttle) mo-bo..
07:04 < [anders]> add the 'pci=bios' to the kernel boot line..
07:05 < [anders]> Why do I get the feeling that something is broken somewhere and they don't know how to fix it?
07:06 < [anders]> morning SMP.. :)
07:10 < huebi> Moin
07:11 < [anders]> re huebi 
07:11 < huebi> hi [anders] 
07:13 * SMP off, taking a shower && breakfast
07:15 * [anders] getting breakfast as well..
07:16 * huebi buildung kernel for alpha with devfs in chroot...
07:25 < huebi> uiui, 17mins
07:32 < [anders]> bbl, getting ready for work...
07:32 < huebi> cu [anders] 
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08:06 < term_emu> mornin
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08:51 < [anders]> morning all
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09:17 < [anders]> err..
09:18 < [anders]> re rxr tsa
09:18 < tsa> hi aszlig
09:18 < tsa> aeh...
09:18 < tsa>  [anders]
09:19 < tsa> damn tab-completion ;)
09:19 < [anders]> tsa: *lol*
09:19 < [anders]> got the solution to the Shuttle SS40 not working on kernel 2.4.18...
09:19 < tsa> should punish my irc client with some 'kill -9's ..
09:19 < [anders]> append 'pci=bios' to the kernel command line...
09:20 < tsa> so the bios has better support for your pci stuff than the linux kernel itself?
09:20 < tsa> interesting..
09:21 < tsa> and definitely worth a mail to LKML..
09:21 < [anders]> tsa: well, the kernel doesn't yet know how to talk to the Sis chipset in raw mode..
09:21 < [anders]> tsa: and the solution came from the LKML..
09:22 < tsa> ah, i see..
09:22 < [anders]> so until the kernel gets fixed, I have to use it this way.. Not that I complain to loudly..
09:23 < tsa> hehe
09:24 < odd_amrimp> question, for whater reason,
09:24 < odd_amrimp> when I'm compiling up rock it dies on glibc,
09:24 < odd_amrimp> because no compiler optimizations are done
09:25 < tsa> ah..
09:25 < odd_amrimp> (which in term doesn't pull in assembly, etc.)
09:25 < tsa> problem is know..
09:25 < tsa> +n
09:25 < tsa> should be fixed in rene's current snapshots.
09:25 < odd_amrimp> k-o, so howto fix ?
09:25 < odd_amrimp> hrm
09:25 < odd_amrimp> Ah,
09:25 < odd_amrimp> I need to re Download then eh?
09:25 < odd_amrimp> (rather than just sync up with the rsync repository?)
09:26 < odd_amrimp> One other thing..., it's not setting up symlinks for the "cc", so it dies if I don't do it by hand
09:26 < tsa> no, you don't
09:26 < tsa> no re-download is needed.
09:26 < odd_amrimp> k, then how to pull down the latest stuff?
09:26 < odd_amrimp> (newbie with rock, but been using and making everything from source for years)
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09:28 < tsa> https://www.rocklinux.org/mailing-list/rock-linux/2002-6/173.html
09:28 < tsa> rsync against the URL's mentioned there...
09:28 < tsa> ..and don't use "--delete" with rsync, as this would indeed delete your downloaded stuff, then..
09:29 < odd_amrimp> k
09:29 < odd_amrimp> thanks
09:30 < odd_amrimp> (Yes, that took quite a while to d/l, don't want to re-pull from scratch ;) )
09:33 < odd_amrimp> also, why always check the swap?.., I'm getting ready to just hack the kernel to say it's on
09:33 < [anders]> kaffe-dags, espresso tror jag...
09:34 < odd_amrimp> (Tired of re-hacking the check-system after every pull :)
09:34 < tsa> hehe ;)
09:35 < rxr> re
09:36 < [anders]> re rxr
09:36 < tsa> hi rxr
09:36 < rxr> hi tsa [anders] 
09:36 < tsa> so you're still alive?
09:36 < rxr> tsa: sure ...
09:36 < rxr> I was around in this channel the last two days ...
09:36 < tsa> been busy during the last days, it seems..
09:37 < tsa> ah, i see.
09:37 < rxr> tsa: jups - I currently experience the girlfriend symptom
09:37 < tsa> i see.
09:37 < tsa> who's girlfriend are you by now, then?
09:38 < tsa> *G*
09:39 < [anders]> rxr: aaahh.. the gf syndrome... physical fatigue and all that.... ;-)
09:39 < tsa> hehe
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09:39 < freed> hi all
09:41 < [anders]> rxr: so did you get out of bed at all this weekend? *G*
09:41 < [anders]> re freed 
09:48 < tsa> [anders]: i guess we don't want to know..
09:48 < tsa> but we should consider buying a webcam for rxr.. ;-)
09:49 < tsa> hi freed
10:01 < [anders]> tsa: web-cam option sounds promising... ;-D
10:02 < tsa> [anders]: hehe, i know....but some photos would be nice, too...
10:09 < [anders]> tsa: indeed...
10:09 < [anders]> but he seems to have gone all shy on us now.. ;-)
10:10 < tsa> hehe ;)
10:36 < tsa> [anders]: perhaps she doesn't allow hin to write anything else ;-)
10:39 < [anders]> tsa: that is a possibility... ;-)
10:40 < [anders]> tsa: or she persuaded him to leave the computer alone and come back to bed for a while.....
10:42 < tsa> hehe...
10:42 < tsa> "for a while"..
10:42 < tsa> we don't want to know that... ;)
10:44 < [anders]> hehehe
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10:52 < huebi> re
10:52 < tsa> moin huebi
10:53 < huebi> How can I measure the time for the whole "for i in *bz2 ; do bunzip2 $i & done" ?
10:53 < huebi> moin tsa ;-)))
10:53 < fake> time `for...
10:53 < fake> time for i in blabla
10:53 < huebi> moin fake 
10:53 < fake> morgen
10:53 < huebi> fake: Danke
10:54 < fake> <--- tot +
10:54 < [anders]> re huebi 
10:54 < [anders]> re fake
10:54 < huebi> re [anders] 
10:54 < huebi> fake: Did you sleep at all?
10:54 < fake> yes.
10:54 < [anders]> huebi: kernel 2.4.18 now working on the Shuttle..
10:54 < huebi> [anders]: Yes, I read the log ;-)
10:55 < [anders]> huebi: :-)
10:55 < [anders]> going to play with getting X working tonight..
10:57 < huebi> small abstract from my todo list:
10:58 < huebi> get ROCK on alpha
10:58 < huebi> get ROCK on Netra-X1
10:58 < tsa> get ROCK on HP Calculator?
10:58 < tsa> get ROCK on Coffee machine?
10:59 < huebi> get ROCK on CASIO fx-8000G
10:59 < tsa> ;)
10:59 < [anders]> kaffe
10:59 < tsa>  /etc/init.d/coffee start
11:02 < huebi> coffee is an internal kernel funktion: echo "1" > /proc/coffee/machine1
11:02 < huebi> coffee is an internal kernel funktion: echo "1" > /proc/coffee/machine0 <- first one ;-)
11:03 < tsa> oh, you have an RAICM? (redundant array of independent coffee machines)
11:05 < huebi> tsa: Yes, of course. It's a life support system so no failures are allowed.
11:05 < tsa> hehe ;-)
11:06 < huebi> Well known error message: "Coffee not found. Operator haltet!"
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11:16 < term_aweh> re
11:17 < fake> E_FILTER, E_POWDER and E_WATER are common Error codes.
11:23 < tsa> hi term_aweh
11:23 < tsa> hi fake
11:23 < fake> hi tsa
11:26 < term_aweh> hi tsa, fake
11:26 < huebi> hi term_aweh 
11:27 < term_aweh> hoi huebi :)
11:27 < term_aweh> hi all
11:34 < th> re
11:35 < huebi> moin th ;-)
11:35 < tsa> moin th
12:05 < fake> SMP: SYN
12:08 < blindcoder> moin everyone
12:08 < huebi> moin blindcoder 
12:08 < fake> hi bc
12:08 < blindcoder> fake: gut heimgekommen?
12:10 < fake> ging so.
12:10 < fake> irgendwann hab ich mich gewundert wozu die hebel neben meinem lenkrad eigentlich da sind...
12:10 < blindcoder> net eingepennt?
12:10 < fake> dann hab ich scheibenwischer und blinker vertauscht...
12:11 < fake> blindcoder: nicht gaenzlich. 
12:11 < blindcoder> *lol*
12:11 < aszlig> hrhr
12:11 < fake> fand ich jetz nich so witzig
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12:11 < aszlig> mir isses auch schon bei 'ner fahrstunde passiert
12:13 < fake>  *   written: ???? by ????, simplified & adopted by FAKE, 01-08-15
12:13 < fake> oh shit
12:14 < fake> ich hab keine ahnung mehr was ich da gemacht hab >_<
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12:14 < Oberlehrer_huebi> fake: lies doch in deiner Doku nach... *g*
12:14 -!- Oberlehrer_huebi is now known as huebi
12:15 < fake> hab ich doch grade. ich habe es "simplified and adopted".
12:16 < tsa> noe - du hast deine eigene doku kaputtgemacht, weil du sie nicht mehr verstanden hast ;-)
12:17 < huebi> simplified: Alle Kommentare geloescht. adopted: Inlineassembler verschluesselt eingebaut, damit niemand sieht, das das Program nur Caffee kocht.
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12:20 < fake> huebi: andersrum. simplified: Inlineassembler vschl. eingebt., Adopted: die obsoleten kommntare geloescht.
12:20 < huebi> *LOL*
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12:22 < fake> re rxr
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12:31 < esden> hi all
12:32 < huebi> moin esden
12:32 < esden> moin huebi 
12:32 < fake> hi esden
12:32 * -> esden fixed packet time
12:33 < esden> hi fake .. how was your trip ?
12:35 < fake> exciting.
12:35 < esden> exciting ? what happened ?
12:42 < huebi> esden: Die Alpha bootet jetzt schon mal einen Kernel ;-)
12:44 < blindcoder> hi esden 
12:50 < huebi> die kernel .config sollte per default wohl ext2 fest mit einkompiliert haben.
12:52 < huebi> KDE 3.0.2 wird fuer Solaris9 uebrigens auf einer Enterprice 3000 "Minibar" kompiliert...
12:59 < blindcoder> boy, I love mathematics...
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13:04 < fake> esden: don't ask
13:12 < [anders]> right.. now I have firewalled my box at home..
13:13 < [anders]> (Oh, the faith needed to enable a firewall when not sitting at the console..)
13:13 < tsa> hehe
13:13 < [anders]> well, packet-filter anyways,.....
13:15 < [anders]> Mmmmmmmm... Erasure - Stop!
13:18 < tsa> cu.
13:18 < tsa> bbl.
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13:22 < [anders]> rxr: you got wire problems today?
13:24 < rxr> [anders]: seems so ...
13:26 * [anders] will try and get XFree86 4.2.0 working on the Shuttle tonight, if successfull, building of ROCK is the next things to do..
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13:31 < armijn> re
13:31 < huebi> moin armijn ;-)
13:31 < armijn> hi huebi
13:32 < [anders]> re armijn :)
13:32 < armijn> huebi: what's the status on sparc?
13:32 < armijn> sparc64 that is
13:32 < armijn> I got a sparcstation 20 last week
13:32 < armijn> still need to clean it (got a few stains on it), test it, etc.
13:33 < armijn> then I will run Solaris8 on it for a while, before I start with installing Debian
13:35 < armijn> hi [anders]
13:36 < huebi> armijn: nothing changed the last days. But feel free to have a look on fels (U5) and rock (U30)
13:36 < armijn> huebi: k
13:36 < armijn> huebi: so, still no news about the SILO stuff?
13:37 < huebi> I have an alpha from ripclaw since friday and start to get ROCK Linux running on it.
13:37 < armijn> huebi: but, we need sparc64 first!
13:38 < huebi> armijn: No. Could you try to do the fixes for devfs in SILO?
13:38 < huebi> armijn: ACK sparc64 first.
13:39 < armijn> huebi: you got the patches?
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13:42 < huebi> armijn: are there patches for devfs for silo?
13:42 < armijn> huebi: you said ripclaw had some
13:42 < huebi> armijn: mom
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13:47 < huebi> armijn: Ripclaw wanted to patch/fix the source himself. But he had no time for that the last week.
13:48 < huebi> armijn: so can you do that job?
13:48 < armijn> I don't know what to do, so...
13:49 < huebi> armijn: mom
13:53 * armijn waits...
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13:59 < esden> re hi all
13:59 < [anders]> rehi esden 
13:59 < huebi> hi esden 
13:59 * huebi searching in silo code...
14:00 < esden> huebi: hmm ... welchen kernel hast du jetzt gestartet ?
14:00 < esden> huebi: wieso ist in 1.5 di aalib nicht mehr drinnen ?
14:01 < armijn> [armijn@humbolt ~]$ echo $LANG
14:01 < armijn> en_UK
14:01 < esden> sorry armijn 
14:01 < armijn> heh :)
14:01 < esden> huebi: which kernel have you used to start the alpha now ?
14:01 < huebi> aalib was not in 1.5 IIRC. I searched myself for it, too
14:01 < armijn> 2.4.18-rc4?
14:02 < esden> --- rock-old/ext-config/aalib/aalib.desc        2002-06-26 14:43:46.000000000 +0200
14:02 < esden> +++ rock-new/ext-config/aalib/aalib.desc        1970-01-01 01:00:00.000000000 +0100
14:02 < esden> @@ -1,12 +0,0 @@
14:02 < esden> -[A] Jan Hubicka <hubicka@users.sourceforge.net>
14:02 < esden> ...
14:02 < esden> compleatly removed ... >_<
14:02 < armijn> heh
14:03 < huebi> esden: ??? https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/ext-config/aalib/aalib.ext?rev=1.3&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
14:04 < esden> I made the up 20 mins ago 
14:04 < esden> and there it is removed ...
14:04 < huebi> https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/ext-config/aalib/
14:04 < huebi>  commit of rock-src-1.5.13_2002-02-16_16h48
14:05 < esden> strange
14:05 < huebi> esden: https://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs.html
14:05 < huebi> armijn: I got it:
14:06 < armijn> huebi: k
14:06 < esden> huebi: ok ok ... :-(
14:06 < huebi> armijn: the source: https://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs.html
14:07 < armijn> the SILO source at cvshome?
14:07 < huebi> armijn: silo-1.2.5/silo/silocheck.c line 301 ff
14:07 < armijn> ah
14:07 < esden> ohh god I am so stupid !!!
14:08 < armijn> esden: sure you are
14:08 < huebi> esden: How did you mention? *g* (kidding)
14:09 < esden> forget it boys >_<
14:09 < armijn> esden: can you repeat what you just said?
14:09 < esden> no I can not ;-)
14:09 < armijn> ah?
14:09 < armijn> pleeeease?
14:10 < esden> nope :P
14:10 * armijn quotes esden
14:10 < armijn> <esden> ohh god I am so stupid !!!
14:10 < armijn> I think I'm even going to print that out on paper...
14:10 < esden> armijn I said that You have to forget it ...
14:10 < armijn> <esden> ohh god I am so stupid !!!
14:10 < armijn> I like that.
14:11 < esden> hmm ... really ... ?? pipe it through banner and then to lpt
14:11 < armijn> <esden> ohh god I am so stupid !!!
14:11 < armijn> I really like it :)
14:12 < esden> armijn: you should go to a doctor ... a soul doctor
14:12 < armijn> <esden> ohh god I am so stupid !!!
14:12 < esden> *rofl*
14:12 < armijn> I will write a bot that will output that line everything esden says something
14:13 < armijn> but I will not see a shrink
14:16 < esden> Checking in arch-conf/alpha/config.in;
14:16 < esden> /home/rockcvs/cvs/rock-1.5/arch-conf/alpha/config.in,v  <--  config.in
14:16 < esden> now the 30 different alpha processors should be selectable
14:16 < armijn> https://www.linux-kongress.org/2002/workshops/index.html
14:16 < armijn> 30 different?
14:16 < armijn> esden: you doing 1.5?
14:17 < huebi> esden: Are the dependencies to the systemboards ok too?
14:17 < armijn> hmm...Cologne...how far is that into Germany?
14:17 < armijn> is that Ruhrgebiet?
14:17 < armijn> or am I completely wrong here?
14:17 < huebi> armijn: next to bonn
14:18 < armijn> hmm
14:18 < armijn> so, does anyone live there/
14:18 < armijn> I mean, a ROCK person?
14:19 * fake lives near Cologne
14:19 < armijn> fake: going to Linux Kongress?
14:19 < esden> huebi: should be
14:19 < fake> huh?
14:19 < fake> where/what/www
14:19 < huebi> esden: did you check it?
14:20 < armijn> fake: https://www.linux-kongress.org/2002/index.html
14:20 < armijn> The 9th Linux-Kongress 2002 will take place from September 4 to September 6, 2002, on the campus of the University of Cologne in Germany. 
14:20 < huebi> I'll be there.
14:21 < esden> huebi: nope ... that is why I say should
14:21 < armijn> https://www.linux-kongress.org/helpus.html
14:21 < esden> otherwise I would say it is working
14:22 < huebi> esden: ok
14:22 < fake> huebi: mind if i join?
14:22 < huebi> fake: hmm?
14:22 < fake> Linx Kongress
14:22 < esden> huebi: we should prevent that the same as with the cd's happens once more ;-)
14:23 < armijn> there's a a train going from Utrecht to Cologne a few times a day...
14:23 < huebi> fake: Yes join it.
14:23 < fake> esden: LinuxKongress would be a nice chance to visit me.
14:23 < huebi> The cheese train...
14:23 < esden> yes that is right ... 
14:23 < esden> I will be on linuxkongress too
14:23 < fake> s,chance,opportunity,
14:24 < huebi> we need a booth
14:24 * fake has one left over
14:24 < fake> ;-)
14:24 < armijn> what happened to the CDs?
14:26 < huebi> for the kernel lamer mode we need some special IP headers.. *g*
14:26 < armijn> what happened to the CDs?
14:27 < esden> huebi: yes we need ... someone has too much time to implement it ?
14:27 * fake donates esden 1 min.
14:28 < fake> oh, btw. i digged though my hardware dump in my room in Wettstetten yesterday and found an EISA Network Card from intel @esden
14:28 < huebi> esden: what happened to the CDs?
14:28 < fake> perfect for m PA-RISC powered router
14:28 * fake banning Intel
14:28 < esden> fake: >_<
14:29 < esden> fake: have fun ... I still have to go to bitz with a car and get my box
14:29 < fake> esden: if i come there next week and you still didn't fetch it, i'll take it.
14:29 < fake> :P
14:31 < esden> if you want to ... *schulterzuck*
14:31 < armijn> yeah! schulterzuck!
14:31 < armijn> you're just a damn schulterzuck!
14:31 < armijn> ha!
14:32 < esden> armijn: ??? are you ok ?
14:32 < armijn> esden: no :)
14:32 < armijn> because of my "schulterzuck"
14:32 < esden> armijn: yes it seems so ;)
14:33 < armijn> I'm experiencing heavy "schulterzucks"
14:33 < esden> armijn: too much coffee ?
14:34 < armijn> nah, don't drink coffee
14:34 < esden> or pitr cola or so ?
14:34 < armijn> nah, I hardly use caffeine
14:34 < armijn> maybe it's too little beer :)
14:34 < esden> ok then cocain ?
14:34 < esden> or how it is spelled
14:35 < esden> armijn: so get a beer
14:35 < armijn> cocaine??
14:35 < armijn> hey, you people have got the wrong view of .nl
14:35 < armijn> that's for sure!
14:35 < armijn> no f***ing cocaine!
14:35 < armijn> people who use stuff like that are brainless
14:36 < armijn> and if they die, who cares.
14:36 < esden> armijn: have I said thot the cocaine is because you are in .nl ?
14:37 < armijn> no :)
14:37 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/Koksen.mpeg
14:37 < esden> you see ;-)
14:37 < armijn> but many people think drugs here are legal
14:37 < armijn> that weed is legal here
14:37 < armijn> well, it's not
14:37 < esden> I know that only weet is legal
14:37 < esden> legal in coffee shops
14:38 < armijn> no, it's not legal
14:38 < esden> what is it then ?
14:38 < armijn> "allowed"
14:38 < armijn> which is different
14:38 < esden> ohh ok ...
14:38 < esden> how much different ?
14:38 < armijn> it's not legal, but they won't arrest you for it
14:38 < th> armijn: whats the diff?
14:38 < esden> armijn: ok
14:38 < th> won't arrest...
14:39 < th> something else?
14:39 < armijn> if you've got it in small quantities (5 grammes)
14:39 < th> no punishment at all?
14:39 < armijn> th: if you've got more than that (kilos), which are meant for dealing, then yeah, they will arrest you
14:39 < armijn> but the punishment will be pretty low
14:41 < th> i see
14:41 < th> are there taxes on it?
14:41 < esden> so weed is on the edge of legality
14:41 < armijn> th: no taxes, because it's not legal
14:42 < th> ok
14:42 < esden> rofl ... they are funny ... so the punishments are the taxes ;-)
14:42 < armijn> it's a bit bizarre :)
14:42 < armijn> but still effective
14:42 < esden> effective in how far ?
14:42 < armijn> because now, it's not that attractive anymore for young people to smoke weed
14:42 < armijn> because it's too easy to get and it's not forbidden
14:43 < esden> that is true
14:43 < esden> for sure
14:43 < armijn> weed usage in france and england is about twice as high
14:43 < th> yea
14:43 < armijn> so I think they should give it completely free, make it legal
14:43 < esden> but smoking is legal and still lot's of young and older people do it ...
14:43 < fake> esden: smoking is advertised
14:44 < esden> fake: ok ... 
14:44 < armijn> but at the same time inform people about the risks
14:44 < esden> when weet is legal it will be advertised too
14:44 < th> bad things always seem to attract people
14:44 < huebi> Please remember that weed was legal in Germany till 1935 or so. 
14:44 < armijn> hehe...smoking advertisements will be gone here soon
14:44 < armijn> in a few years
14:45 < esden> I am ok with that 
14:45 < armijn> tobacco companies are eeeevil
14:46 < aszlig> re
14:46 < huebi> aszlig: ACK
14:46 < aszlig> armijn: why?
14:46 < armijn> have you ever noticed how much these so called "anti-globalists" smoke?
14:46 < aszlig> hmm
14:46 < armijn> even though tobacco companies are exactly the type of companies they try to fight?
14:46 < armijn> :)
14:47 < armijn> they're just hypocryts...
14:47 < hackbard> then let us just smoke weed without tabaco :>
14:48 < armijn> hackbard: hehe :)
14:48 < armijn> many companies are hypocrytical as well
14:48 < esden> hackbard: rofl
14:49 < armijn> you probably know that the "allied forces" more or less introduced Coca-Cola as a kind of "freedom beverage" in world war 2
14:49 < armijn> but until the attack of Pearl Harbour, one of their biggest customers were the Nazis
14:49 < armijn> Hitler just loved Coca Cola...
14:50 < armijn> for Coca Cola, WW2 was just pure marketing
14:51 < armijn> (yes, I tend to see history as an economical thing)
14:51 < armijn> my motto is "sla vaker een kraker", which translates to "hit squatters more often"
14:51 < armijn> :)
14:51 < esden> armijn: tztztz
14:52 < armijn> many people are just bull shitting around
14:52 < armijn> instead of actually doing stuff
14:52 < armijn> and that pisses me off
14:53 < armijn> so, let's work all on ROCK and improve this world :)
14:54 < armijn> see, I actually am positive :)
14:54 * -> esden working on rock in the moment
14:54 < armijn> good!
14:54 < armijn> esden: alpha? 1.5?
14:54 < esden> ond drinking jolt
14:55 < esden> armijn: yes alpha 1.5
14:55 < esden> we need jolt as a sponsor for rocklinux ;-)
14:56 < armijn> I'd rather go for a brewery :)
14:57 < armijn> maybe we could do something like, roll specialized distros for companies
14:57 < armijn> "Heineken Linux, free with every crate"
14:57 -!- freed [~bofh@konzentrat.tfh-berlin.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
14:57 < armijn> not that I like Heineken
14:57 < armijn> it's just an example
14:58 < armijn> wish I had music here
14:58 < esden> hehe 
14:58 * -> esden making music
14:58 < esden> lalala ... lala ;-)
14:58 < armijn> I want my SOD!
14:58 < armijn> (Stormtroopers Of Death)
14:58 < armijn> politically incorrect :)
14:59 < armijn> in the Dutch C'T there was an article about TINI
14:59 < armijn> pretty neat stuff
14:59 < esden> yes the name sounds so
15:00 < esden> tini ?
15:00 < armijn> TINI
15:00 < esden> what is it ?
15:00 < armijn> https://www.ibutton.com/TINI/index.html
15:00 < armijn> embedded stuff
15:00 < armijn> embedded Java
15:01 * armijn afk for little while
15:01 < armijn> brb
15:01 < esden> that is based on java ... pfui ... bleah ... yuk
15:02 < huebi> esden: how long does your alpha need for a kernel?
15:02 < esden> hmm ... never mesured ... but not very long ...
15:03 < huebi> esden: Can you have some sex in that time or is the time shorter? *g*
15:03 < esden> it is shorter ;-)
15:04 < huebi> I measured 17 mins here
15:04 < esden> it takes less then one esden
15:04 < hackbard> *hust*
15:04 < hackbard> :>
15:05 < hackbard> 17 mins .. wow :p
15:06 < huebi> hackbard: 2m10s on 2xXP1800+
15:07 < hackbard> hehe, dual? that means having sex with 2 girls, right? :>
15:07 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux
15:08 < huebi> 2 girls 2 mins - f***ing fast!!
15:08 < hackbard> hi bluefire 
15:08 < hackbard> lol huebi 
15:08 < th> fscking?
15:08 < huebi> hi bluefire 
15:08 < rxr> hackbard: hi!
15:08 < hackbard> hi rene
15:08 < th> but what a block-device is "girl"?
15:09 < rxr> /dev/girls/* ...
15:09 < th> ahh lemme look
15:09 < th> not mounted
15:09 < huebi> th: missing device?
15:09 < th> huebi: seems so
15:10 < huebi> driver not loaded?
15:10 < th> perhaps i should mknod them to /tmp
15:10 < hackbard> isnt girls.o devfs aware? :>
15:10 < huebi> th: No. FHS say /dev
15:11 < esden> cat /dev/girls/random > /dev/bed
15:11 < th> FHS?
15:11 < th> for girl in /dev/girls/*; ...
15:12 < huebi> esden: sort and sed them or you get the fat and ugly ones, too. (120kg+)
15:12 < th> yea. one should pipe them somehow
15:12 < esden> yuk 
15:13 < esden> cat /dev/girls/random | /home/esden/bin/girlfilter.awk > /dev/bed
15:13 * rxr busy learning Rechner Architektur ... (exam @ 18.oo ...)
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15:14 < hackbard> rxr: much luck!
15:14 < esden> rolla: much luck
15:14 < esden> hi rolla 
15:16 < esden> *cry* I need a faster alpha :-((( I want also such compile times as huebi on his intel on my alpha  ... alpha was always called that it is fscking fast ... 
15:16 < esden> so I want a prove
15:16 < rolla> re
15:17 < esden> s/rolla: much luck!/rxr: much luck!/
15:18 < esden> huebi: what ram are you using in your alpha ?
15:19 < huebi> 100MHz, SDRAM, 128MB, ECC.   _not_ reistered
15:19 < fake> *ARGH*
15:19 < fake> did anyone of you _ever_ get:
15:20 < fake> Uncompressing Linux...
15:20 < fake> crc error
15:20 < fake> -- System halted
15:20 < fake> ?
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15:22 < rolla> esden what kind of alpha do you have ?
15:22 < bluefire> Moin allesamt
15:24 < huebi> fake: Wich platform?
15:24 < fake> huebi: ia32
15:26 < huebi> make bzImage I would suggest. vmlinuz is just a gziped vmlinux on sparc64 and alpha.
15:26 < fake> but how could that happen?
15:27 < fake> *argh* i have too much caffeine... i can't take it... *ARRRGH*
15:27 < fake> damn ultra-quadro-espressi
15:28 < huebi> fake: broken archive. failed Harddrive. If you get random SIG 11 on a non overclocked machine your memory/CPU could be broken.
15:28 < armijn> I hate network hick ups
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15:29 < fake> huebi: the machine was overclocked
15:29 < huebi> fake: The white instand coffee is pitr coffe - be carefull ;>
15:30 < huebi> fake: That could be the reason. a "rotten bit"
15:31 < fake> huebi: but i reset it a week ago
15:32 < fake> and huebi: the quadro-espressi this machine does are 4times the powder for 1 espresso 
15:32 < fake> and 4 of those in one cup
15:32 < fake> so it's 16 espressi in one cup
15:33 < huebi> fake - The Instant Programer - just add 2^x espressi
15:35 < armijn> pfrt
15:36 < armijn> fake: the espresso machine was overclocked?
15:36 < fake> i'll just dump that damn intel-wannabe-computer into the waste and set up the SS20
15:36 < huebi> fake: very good idea ;-)
15:37 < fake> *sigh* now that i got used to and enjoyed triple-head... :(
15:37 < armijn> well, you can put 4 CPUs in the ss20 :)
15:38 < huebi> fake: and 2 more gfx-boards.
15:38 < fake> huebi: give me.
15:41 < huebi> fake: a tgx?
15:41 < fake> oh, and two additional monitors, too.
15:42 < fake> or two 13W3-SUBD15
15:42 < armijn> argh, lots of network hickups here
15:42 < armijn> getting onworkable :(
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15:48 < mike1> Good day all
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16:02 < esden> huebi:
16:02 < esden> root@natalie:/usr/src/linux# time make
16:02 < esden> real    10m16.318s
16:02 < esden> user    9m40.713s
16:02 < esden> sys     0m32.861s
16:02 < huebi> esden: fast ;-)))
16:02 < esden> yepp ;-)
16:03 < esden> but not fast enough 
16:03 < esden> I need one of the 1Ghz alpha processors
16:07 * fake driving home
16:08 < mike1> kernel hackers: https://lwn.net/Articles/3470/?format=printable
16:40 < rxr> hi mike1 
16:40 * fake feels like dead
16:47 < mike1> hi rxr great to see you again
16:49 -!- freed [~bofh@konzentrat.tfh-berlin.de] has joined #rocklinux
17:03 < rxr> hi freed +
17:05 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux
17:05 < armijn> re
17:06 < mike1> re armijn
17:07 < huebi> re
17:08 < huebi> hi mike1 
17:08 < huebi> hi freed 
17:09 < armijn> re
17:12 < armijn> almost vacation..
17:12 < armijn> as in, last week here
17:12 < armijn> then it will be time to get some work done :)
17:14 < mike1> armijn: nice
17:15 < huebi> Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! Ok. I put it on(serial)line ;-))
17:16 < huebi> Alpha is not so easy and now it needs 18min for a kernel ;(
17:16 < armijn> awww...
17:19 -!- uninvited [uninvited@pD9E50494.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ROCKLINUX
17:19 < uninvited> HELLO ALL !
17:20 < armijn> ARGH! PRESSED YOUR CAPS LOCK KEY ONCE AGAIN??
17:21 < huebi> huebi@mail:~ > uptime
17:21 < huebi>   5:21pm  up 370 days,  6:47,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
17:21 < huebi> Wow I like that ;-))
17:22 < huebi> Welcome to SuSE Linux 6.3 (i386) - Kernel 2.2.13 (pts/0).
17:22 < huebi> But that _not_
17:23 < uninvited> armijn> no, júst wanted every1 to hear me ;-)
17:23 < armijn> ah
17:23 < huebi> uninvited: use figlet ;>
17:23 < uninvited> ...but now i ll got ssshhht ;-)
17:24 * mike1 heard uninvited
17:24 < uninvited> huebi> figlet, i heard about that one...but never used it before.
17:24 < uninvited> mike1> thank yar ;-)
17:25 < uninvited> Blindcoder you there ?
17:25 < uninvited> I got some information for ya
17:25 < bluefire> bbl
17:25 < mike1> huebi: really like figlet dont u?
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17:26 < huebi> mike1: Yes. it looks goot (and is loud) ;-))
17:26 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/figlet22.tar.gz
17:26 < esden> uninvited: I do not hear you ... what do you say ?
17:27 < armijn> hmm...
17:27 < huebi> esden: o_O
17:27 < uninvited> esden> get away M.M from your ears ;-)
17:27 < esden> M.M ??? 
17:27 < armijn> well, another festival this weekend
17:28 < uninvited> Marylin Manson ;-)
17:28 < esden> ohh ... 
17:28 * -> esden switching on M.M
17:28 < armijn> marilyn manson
17:28 < armijn> yuck.
17:28 < uninvited> armijn> why yuck ?
17:28 < armijn> he sucks
17:29 < armijn> it's all image
17:29 < uninvited> armijn>  ah okay, i accept that...
17:31 < uninvited> blindcoder come in, this is patrol uninvited speaking...come in blindcoder <crackle> <crackle>
17:31 < esden> armijn: I like the music ... these are good covers ... if you ask me
17:31 < uninvited> Hmmm. covers ?
17:32 < esden> yes most of the things that mm is singing are covers
17:32 < uninvited> since i saw britney spears covering I LOVE ROCK N ROLL, the word cover gets a shitty meaning to me.
17:32 < SMP> re
17:32 < mike1> re SMP
17:33 < armijn> aah, britney
17:34 < uninvited> thats what i call "image"
17:35 < armijn> yeah, well, but you have to admit, britney is prettier to look at than Marilyn Manson :))
17:39 < armijn> huebi? can you put the silo stuff on the mail to rock-ports?
17:39 < esden> re SMP 
17:39 < huebi> hi SMP 
17:40 * uninvited is shutting down brain...
17:40 < huebi> armijn: You mean :
17:40 < huebi> 14:06 < huebi> armijn: the source: https://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs.html
17:40 < huebi> 14:07 < armijn> the SILO source at cvshome?
17:40 < huebi> ?
17:41 < huebi> 14:07 < huebi> armijn: silo-1.2.5/silo/silocheck.c line 301 ff
17:41 < armijn> huebi: that last thingie...
17:41 < armijn> I don't need theURL for CVS home :)
17:41 < huebi> armijn: can you do that?
17:59 < armijn> huebi: dunno
18:01 < armijn> sent it
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18:08 < mike1> armijn: whats the status on the sparc64 port?
18:08 < armijn> mike1: well...
18:08 < armijn> depends on what you want and/or expect
18:09 < mike1> well just i havent seen any progress reports in a while 
18:09 < armijn> very well possible
18:09 < mike1> wel i have been as usually busy but i like to keep an eye on it
18:09 < armijn> we haven't made that much progress the last few weeks
18:09 < mike1> i see
18:10 < armijn> still the same problems:
18:10 < mike1> are you still woring on the 1.5 tree or you moved to 1.7?
18:10 < armijn> silo + devfs, install disks, good kernel config
18:10 < armijn> still 1.5
18:10 < mike1> nice
18:10 < mike1> i thought silo was solved
18:10 < armijn> mike1: so did I :(
18:11 < armijn> huebi: did ripclaw say anything about it? that it worked or so?
18:11 < mike1> havent heard anything from ripclaw 
18:11 < armijn> or was it just one of his usual ramblings like "if we do that, it will work and we can <blah blah blah blah>"?
18:11 < mike1> something like that
18:11 < armijn> probably
18:11 < armijn> huebi: when will ripclaw return?
18:12 < mike1> hehe
18:12 < mike1> armijn: btw you are going on vacation too?
18:12 < armijn> yeah, in september
18:13 < mike1> damn i wanna get some vacation but i have to wait
18:13 < mike1> if i get my vacation now i wont be able to go to 19c3
18:14 < armijn> yeah, just go in the winter
18:14 < armijn> when it's cold and it snows and such
18:14 < armijn> and everything is icy, etc.
18:14 < armijn> instead of going to the beach, have a BBQ, etc.
18:14 < mike1> its ok with me i like winter sports i hope i can get to do some snowboarding
18:15 < armijn> snowboarding? in Berlin?
18:15 < armijn> unlikely
18:15 < armijn> at least not outdoors :)
18:15 < mike1> armijn: i am planning to spending 2 or 3 weeks there
18:15 < mike1> and not only in berlin
18:15 < mike1> i'm going to frankfurt and ausburg
18:16 < armijn> well, I'm not german, but the area between .nl and berlin was rather much like .nl, so *flat*
18:16 < mike1> and i dunno i will find out a place for boarding
18:16 < mike1> i see
18:17 < mike1> armijn: about beach i dont need to fly to ther side of the world to do that beach is only 1 hour away from my place we have great beaches and awesome girls
18:17 < armijn> yeah, I know
18:17 < armijn> well, that you've got a beach that is
18:17 < mike1> you should actually come over here i am sure youd like it
18:17 < mike1> ;)
18:17 < armijn> dunno about the girls...
18:17 < armijn> heh, I guess...
18:17 < armijn> although I'm not really a beach person
18:19 < esden> is praenti here ?
18:20 < armijn> who's praenti? who's praenti?
18:47 < esden> cu all
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19:10 < mike1> re esden
19:41 < blindcoder> anyone care to play bzflag against me?
19:41 < blindcoder> s/care/dare/
19:42 < blindcoder> hmm.. okay...
19:43 < mike1> blindcoder: maybe later
19:43 < h0h0> bzflag!
19:43 < mike1> i am busy at the moment
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19:43 < blindcoder> okay
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19:44 < blindcoder> esden and me set up a bzflag server for rocklinux-people
19:44 < blindcoder> at apollo.bingo-ev.de
19:44 < blindcoder> we should try to get 4,5 people some evening :D
19:45 < blindcoder> I'm back later... say... the time one needs to get satiated :)
19:45 < blindcoder> jane
19:47 < armijn> bzflag?
19:47 < armijn> is that a game?
19:47 < armijn> as in, who knows the most flags (options) for bzip?
19:47 < mike1> armijn: yeah a battle game
19:47 < mike1> hehe
19:48 < mike1> https://www.bzflag.org/
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19:48 < mike1> re praenti
19:54 < uninvited> bzflag ?
19:54 < uninvited> @bingo `?
19:54 < uninvited> rocking
19:55 < armijn> ROCKing?
19:56 < uninvited> yeah
19:56 < uninvited> ;-)
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20:12 < tsa> re
20:12 < armijn> hi tsa
20:12 < tsa> hi armijn
20:14 < mike1> hey there tsa
20:14 < snyke> huh!
20:15 < tsa> him igel
20:15 < tsa> hi mike1
20:15 < tsa> s,him igel,,
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21:02 < tsa> re uninvited
21:03 < uninvited> re.
21:03 < uninvited> netsplits sux
21:10 < fake> uninvited: PS2?
21:13 < uninvited> fake> 1. Kandidat NEIN.
21:13 < uninvited> 2. Kandidat erst am Wochenende unterwegs
21:14 < fake> axo.
21:14 < fake> oke.
21:14 < uninvited> still looking
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21:27 < fake> rxr: ping
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21:31 < mike1> re capchaos
21:31 < capchaos_> hi miguel :)
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21:43 < fake> SMP: SYN
21:47 < fake> SMP: SYNSYNSYNSYNSYNSYNSYN (SYN-Flood ;)
21:49 < fake> huebi: ?
21:49 < fake> anyone?
21:53 < snyke> fake?
21:55 < blindcoder> me
21:57 < fake> ich will mit rxr schmipfen
21:57 < fake> und von SMP brauch ich a) die anleitung wie ich den Proll ins flash bekomm
21:57 < fake> und b) die Images
21:57 < fake> huebi weiss vielleicht SMP/a
21:58 < fake> th evtl.
21:58 < th> wie?
21:58 < fake> blindcoder: mldonkey funzt jetz?
21:58 < fake> th: hat die SMP offenbart wie er den PROLL ins flash bekommen hat?
21:58 < th> fake: nein
21:59 < fake> *seufz*
21:59 < fake> oke.
21:59 < fake> <-- RTFM
21:59 < blindcoder> fake: liegt net an mldonkey, sondern an incoming traffic
21:59 < blindcoder> weil mit IRC-Filetransfers hab ich as selbe Problem
22:02 < fake> das sagtest du. wie gedenkst du dich dessen zu erwehren?
22:03 < blindcoder> ich krieg morgen vom erdi ein ausauschmodem... vielleicht lietrgs daran
22:03 < blindcoder> wenn nicht wird der "router" plattgemacht
22:03 < blindcoder> der ist eh ein wenig... komisch
22:03 < blindcoder> nfsmounts dauern so... 5 minuten
22:03 < fake> komisch?
22:04 < blindcoder> also auf dem router laeuft ein nfs-daemon...
22:04 < blindcoder> und von dem was zu mounten dauert an die 5 minuten
22:04 < blindcoder> mindestens aber 3
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22:14 < ripclaw> helo / afk(working)
22:17 * ripclaw is away: still reading but working
22:19 < fake> hi ripclaw !
22:20 < SMP> fake!
22:20 < ripclaw> hi fake SMP
22:21 < SMP> https://www.sk-pism.de/lotr.avi <- rotfl
22:22 < SMP> fake, I'll be back in max. 30 min. TTYL then
22:23 < fake> *wee*
22:23 < fake> Mim-Type: x-msvideo >_<
22:23 * ripclaw whacks the encoder...
22:24 < fake> that's a stupid mime-magic in Apache IIRC
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22:26 < owl> hi
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22:27 < fake> SMP: das video sieht lustig aus. Allerdings ohne ton n bisschen fad ;)
22:39 -!- reutter [reutter@athalle1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] has joined #rocklinux
22:42 < reutter> Hi all.
22:43 < mike1> hi reutter
22:43 < huebi> re MoeP!
22:43 < fake> re huebi.
22:43 < huebi> hi fake 
22:46 < rxr> fake: PONG
22:46 < fake> rxr: when i compile the current snapshot, all the base pkgs build fine.
22:47 < fake> the first rene pkg fails.
22:47 < fake> (cups)
22:47 < praenti> hi
22:47 < rxr> fake: oh - I'll start a 1.7 build tomorrow ... - feel free to run a "no-stop-on-errors" build ...
22:47 < praenti> esden: da?
22:48 < fake> rxr: i'll grep for rene in *.err and | mail it to you ;P
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22:48 < holyolli> moin
22:49 < huebi> hi  holyolli 
22:49 < holyolli> hu huebi
22:51 < ripclaw> hi huebi holiolli
22:51 < holyolli> hey ripclaw :)
22:51 < huebi> hi ripclaw ;)
22:51 * praenti is away (hedwig)
22:51 < ripclaw> ich koennt kotzen, ich hab den stundenzettel von letztem monat nicht mehr,....
22:52 < huebi> ripclaw: juni?
22:52 < holyolli> ./dcc send ripclaw stundenzettel...?
22:52 < holyolli> ;-)
22:52 < tsa> hi ripclaw
22:52 < holyolli> .oO(ARGS! es is ja schon wieder nen monat rum...da sagste was =)
22:52 < holyolli> hi tsa...schon rechnung geschrieben?
22:52 < tsa> hehe.
22:52 < tsa> holyolli: sicher.
22:52 < holyolli> .oO(scheisse)
22:52 < holyolli> ;-)
22:52 * tsa hat vorhin schon den quartals-abschluss hinter sich gebracht..
22:53 < holyolli> weia
22:53 < ripclaw> NEEEEEIN.... deswegen brauch ich das scheiss toilettenpapier doch !!!!
22:53 < huebi> bei mir erst nach Sonnenaufgang wieder Rechnungen schreiben..
22:54 < fake> huebi: wenn bei der JS nur ein ? anstatt tasse kommt... ?
22:55 < fake> ah. dhcpd.
22:55 < fake> hm.. IP hatse.
23:02 < SMP> re
23:02 < holyolli> hi smp
23:02 < SMP> das Video hat halt eigentlich schon Ton
23:02 < huebi> hi SMP 
23:03 < ripclaw> huebi - ich haett gern einen sushi-grill, falls ich das zettel nicht finde.
23:03 < fake> SMP: aber ich keine Soundkarte ;)
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23:03 < SMP> dumm das
23:03 < fake> SMP: unresolved symbol das :P
23:03 < SMP> hehe
23:03 < fake> SMP: jemand meinte du haettest den PROLL ins flash befoerdert. wie?
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23:05 < SMP> ja
23:05 < SMP> den kernel willst du aber schon noch ueber's Netz booten?
23:06 < fake> nicht wenn ich nichts muss.
23:06 < fake> ich will am liebsten auf den 8 MB ROM den Kernel drauf haben und n X.
23:06 < fake> *g*
23:06 < SMP> deine JS laeuft aber im Moment schon, ja?
23:07 < fake> ja. naja- compile noch schnell das NFS Kernelmodul hier aber ja.
23:08 < holyolli> cya
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23:08 < SMP> fake: immer schoen langsam eins nach dem anderen..
23:09 < fake> *wuselwusel*
23:09 < SMP> hast du das flash abgezogen?
23:09 < fake> noe
23:09 < SMP> oder den Jumper fuer's OBP gesetzt?
23:09 < fake> noch nicht.
23:10 < SMP> aber sie laedt trotzdem den PROLL schon ueber's Netz?
23:10 < fake> SMP: ja. Alt+T
23:10 < SMP> ahh
23:10 < SMP> hast du schon ein root filesystem?
23:10 < fake> ja. das von huebi/dir
23:10 < SMP> ok..
23:11 < fake> (nehme ich an - 1.5.12)
23:11 < SMP> hast du nen Account auf world / cvs.rocklinux.de?
23:12 < fake> nicht dass ich wuesste
23:12 < fake> ich kann mit maintain.sh arbeiten, aber das is ja rocklinux.org. oder?
23:12 < SMP> ja
23:12 < fake> brb - reboot mit NFSD unterstuetzung.
23:14 < huebi> * Der Resetknpf der Alpha zeigt schon erste Abnutzungserscheinungen ... *gg*
23:14 < huebi> fehlt schon das o ;-)
23:15 < ripclaw> huebi: lass sie erst mal booten :-)
23:15 < huebi> der kernel ist noch ein Panic generator....
23:24 < fake> SMP: nicht weglaufen
23:26 < fake> bin gespannt ob ich es irgendwie schaffe auf dem ding divx abzuspielen
23:26 < SMP> [ ] das ist der richtige Plan
23:27 < fake> so server decoded in ein wenig prozessorlastiges format -> Netzwerk -> Frambuffer
23:28 < fake> SMP: warte nur bis WINE darauf laeuft. *"X"-setz*
23:28 < fake> *g*
23:33 < fake> so. jetzt sollte es klappen.
23:38 < fake> sodale.
23:38 < fake> jetzt NFS hab.
23:40 < fake> SMP: okay. jetzt laueft die Krups.
23:42 < fake> *dumdideldumpfeiff*
23:43 < fake> *kernelneucompile*
23:43 < huebi> fake <- *auch18minwatr*
23:44 < fake> huebi: was? nur 18 min? auf der 100MHz kiste?
23:44 < huebi> boot dkc100
23:44 < huebi> fake: nee, auf der Alpha
23:45 < fake> poehoeh. bin mal gespannt wie lange das auf der NC dauert
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23:45 < huebi> hi owl
23:45 -!- the][owl [~mail-spam@B546c.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux
23:45 < huebi> hi owl
23:46 < fake> hi owl
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23:46 < fake> hi owl
23:46 < owl> re
23:48 < mike1> re owl
23:48 < fake> SMP: SYN SYN SYN...
23:49 < SMP> was denn?
23:49 < fake> SMP: warte noch auf weiterfuehrende erklaerung betzuegl. Flash.
23:52 * huebi auch gespannt lauscht...
23:53 < huebi> koool! Farbe ueber die serielle Console mit minicom!!
23:53 < fake> minicom -c on ?
23:53 < huebi> minicom -c on -m
23:53 < fake> -m is ja nur metakey
23:53 < huebi> jo, und praktisch
23:54 < fake> wieso versucht make menuconfig jetz die ganze Zeit binfmt-4c46 zu laden?
23:55 < fake> (was soll das sein?)
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23:57 < SMP> gut ..
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