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00:03 < rxr> Mike1: the mirros are synced now (exepct the .tux.org) - so please use a mirror
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00:03 < Mike1> rxr: dont worry my friend i had already decided to do that :)
00:03 < Mike1> re WKaibigan
00:04 < WKaibigan> Evening
00:08 < rxr> Mike1: ok - good night alll
00:08 < Mike1> night Rene
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00:23 < Mike1> hi Freak
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00:23 < owl> re
00:24 < Mike1> re owl
00:24 < Freak> hi Mike1
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00:32 < ringo78> what could be the trouble when I run iptables and it can't initialize 'filter' ? Done insmod ip_tables.o ? I am confued...
00:33 < ringo78> s/ued/used/
00:34 < Mike1> ringo78: you forgot to modprobe iptable_filter
00:34 < Mike1> my suggestion also modprobe iptable_nat
00:35 < Mike1> if they are not defined in the kernel as modules you will have to recompile it
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00:37 < Mike1> ?
00:37 < ringo78> ok I recompiled it, can't see iptable_filter.
00:38 < Mike1> ok i got to go
00:38 < Mike1> see you guys later
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02:00 < ringo78> All sleeping ?
02:01 < th> don't think so
02:02 < huebi> no
02:11 < huebi> but now
02:11 < huebi> good night.
02:16 < ringo78> n8 huebi !
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02:28 < tsa> n8
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04:31 < d3mian> re
04:31 < d3mian> dman, i have several probs while building the kernel in rock 1.5.16
04:33 < d3mian> the modversions is set when i dont do it
04:35 < d3mian> so, the "-rc4" EXTRA VERSION in kernel is old and when the modules are loaded, they ask for kernel 2.4.18-rc4, when the current kernel after compiling is 2.4.18
04:36 < d3mian> hehe, and the uname -a says i have a SMP system , when it is false!\
04:37 < d3mian> well, cu
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04:57 < d3mian> re
04:58 < d3mian> umumm, i gui guess all is solved now.. i just did a make symlinks, now it works.. but i need to fix some stuff
04:58 < d3mian> s/gui/
04:59 < d3mian> &j #linux-sparc
05:01 < d3mian> good night!
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06:01 < wilbertnl> Hi guys
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07:42 < [anders]> ok, there are issues with my private snap.. trying to fix them now.. apperantly when you use long options for the compression tool, you need to prefix the short options with a '-'..
08:23 < [anders]> I have uploaded (into upload) the new private snap... It should take care of all problems with tar as I have prefixed all short options with a hyphen where it should matter. 
08:24 < [anders]> I will go through all other bits later, like all the scripts  for building sub-dists etc and update them as well. and then I'll take a look at the ext's..
08:24 < [anders]> now I really do have to go to work. :)
08:24 < [anders]> I'll sort the md5sum when I get to work.. l8r all.
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09:21 < huebi> moin
09:22 < rxr_> moin huebi 
09:22 < huebi> Guten Morgen Rene ;-))
09:22 < huebi> Schoen dich zu sehen. ;)
09:23 < huebi>  /nick rxr ?
09:23 -!- rxr_ is now known as rxr
09:23 < rxr> ;-)
09:23 < huebi> ;-)
09:24 < huebi> rxr: Ich habe das komplette Gnome 1.4 auf den aktuellen Stand gebracht. D.h. alle Packete, die zu Gnome gehoeren sind jetzt aktuell. ;-)
09:26 < rxr> ack
09:28 < [anders]> re huebi 
09:28 < [anders]> re rxr
09:28 < [anders]> huebi: new snap in upload
09:28 < rxr> me is /away to uni (writing an exam) - cu
09:28 < [anders]> shuttle:/drock/DEV# md5sum rock-src-1.5.17.private.tar.bz2
09:28 < [anders]> bcbf33f1b111d6cad70d67885c6aedd2  rock-src-1.5.17.private.tar.bz2
09:29 < huebi> rxr: Viel Erfolg!
09:29 < rxr> ;-) Danke!
09:29 < rxr> cu all
09:29 < [anders]> good luck rxr
09:29 < huebi> [anders]: Thank you ;-)
09:30 < [anders]> huebi: I came across the problem when building it myself.. :)
09:31 < [anders]> It had been in the back of my mind anyway, but the build break confirmed it..
09:32 < [anders]> So when Mike1 turns up, get him to pull the updated private snap.. :)
09:36 < [anders]> erk! build break in mtools..
09:41 < [anders]> hmm.. going to rebuild the lot to make sure there are no errors due to me modding things.. :)
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10:00 < uninvited> Good morning !
10:00 < [anders]> moin uninvited 
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10:15 < tsa> hi
10:17 < tsa> anyone awake?
10:20 < [anders]> re tsa
10:20 < tsa> hi [anders]
10:20 < [anders]> tsa: how's things? :)
10:21 < tsa> hm...i'm fighting with procmail..
10:21 < tsa> it doesn't like me, it seems..
10:21 < [anders]> huebi: how would you like the tar changes being handled? I really would like to make all instances where tar and bzip2 compression is used not depend on short options..
10:21 < [anders]> procmail is not for the fainthearted.. :)
10:22 < tsa> hehe...indeed.
10:22 * [anders] pokes huebi with a stick to see if he is alive..
10:23 < tsa> the entry in /etc/procmailrc was takes from the procmailex(5) man page, but it still doesn't work..
10:23 < [anders]> tsa : what is the entry?
10:23 < tsa> :0:
10:23 < tsa> * ^From.*external.user@domain.com
10:23 < tsa> {
10:23 < tsa>         :0 c
10:23 < tsa>         ! sjaenick@marcant.net
10:23 < tsa>         :0 i
10:23 < tsa>         | procmail -Y -d lokalespostfach
10:23 < tsa> }
10:24 < tsa> should take all mail coming from external.user@domain.com, send me a copy and do local delivery.
10:24 < tsa> currently, it's doing absolutely nothing..
10:24 < [anders]> uhm.. and which bit is it it doesn't do?
10:25 < tsa> no copy for me, no local delivery.
10:26 < tsa> any ideas?
10:26 < [anders]> it begins with :0: as you have it, while the example in the manpage start with :0 
10:26 < tsa> i already tried both, but no difference..
10:28 < [anders]> hmm... it appears the 2nd colon only makes it use a lockfile,.. so not that one..
10:31 < tsa> correct.
10:31 < [anders]> I can not see anything wrong with your recipie..
10:31 < tsa> ok, that's fine.
10:32 < [anders]> I'm reading man-pages and looking at it and afaict, it *should* work. 
10:32 < tsa> procmail seems to be the only one who doesn't like it,..
10:32 < [anders]> mmmm
10:39 < tsa> *grr*
10:39 * tsa building mail loops.
10:39 < tsa> ;-)
10:39 < [anders]> whops.. you _really_ do not want to do that.... :)
10:39 < tsa> hehe ;-)
10:52 < tsa> GNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
10:53 < tsa> :0:
10:53 < tsa> * ^From.*external.user@domain.com
10:53 < tsa> {
10:53 < tsa> :0 c
10:53 < tsa>   ! sjaenicke@marcant.net
10:53 < tsa> }
10:53 < tsa> works!
10:53 < tsa> procmail doesn't like the spaces..
10:53 < tsa> *sigh*
10:54 < [anders]> uhm.. so spaces != tabs then...
11:05 < esden> morning boys and girls
11:07 < SMP> indeed. morning
11:07 < [anders]> re esden 
11:07 < [anders]> re SMP
11:08 * [anders] waiting impatiently for when the running build will reach mtools to see if it will break again
11:14 < tsa> hi esden, SMP
11:27 < tsa> HAHAHA!
11:27 < tsa> www.apple.de
11:29 < esden> lol ... die bei apple blauchen den huebi ... der macht denen ein vernuenftiges recovery system ... nicht nur backup ;-)
11:34 < esden> scheiss minicom
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11:49 < [anders]> hmmm....
11:49 < [anders]> == 10:24:44 =[3]=> Building base package mtools [3.9.8 1.5.17-private].
11:49 < [anders]> Pkg-Config: patches mtools.desc mtools.conf done.
11:49 < [anders]> Building. Writing output to /var/adm/logs/3-mtools.out
11:49 < [anders]> > /usr/include/linux/wait.h:4: warning: `WNOHANG' redefined
11:49 < [anders]> > /usr/include/bits/waitflags.h:26: warning: this is the location of t ..
11:49 < [anders]> > /usr/include/linux/wait.h:5: warning: `WUNTRACED' redefined
11:49 < [anders]> > /usr/include/bits/waitflags.h:27: warning: this is the location of t ..
11:49 < [anders]> > In file included from /usr/include/linux/prefetch.h:13,
11:49 < [anders]> >                  from /usr/include/linux/list.h:6,
11:49 < [anders]> >                  from mformat.c:30:
11:49 < [anders]> > /usr/include/asm/processor.h:56: `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undecla ..
11:49 < [anders]> > /usr/include/asm/processor.h:56: requested alignment is not a constant
11:49 < [anders]> > make: *** [mformat.o] Error 1
11:49 < [anders]> pardon the flood.. :-/
11:49 < [anders]> Anyone got any ideas about this one?
11:51 < esden> cu all
11:54 < [anders]> cya esden 
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11:56 < rxr> re
11:56 < [anders]> re rxr
12:01 < uninvite1> grrr
12:07 < [anders]> huebi: you around?
12:09 < fake> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       831300  9. Jul 11:57 Xfbdev
12:09 < fake> wee!
12:11 < uninvite1> wee?
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12:12 < fake> uninvite1: complete configuration- and logfile-less X-Server in 800kb 
12:14 < [anders]> fake: that's good.. how did you manage that?
12:15 < fake> [anders]: KDrive. it comes with X...
12:15 * fake lunch
12:15 < [anders]> fake: it is a way to fine-tune the X-servers I take it.. :)
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12:22 < praenti> hi
12:23 * praenti hates learning for the tests... :-((
12:24 < [anders]> re praenti 
12:24 < [anders]> praenti: an neccessary evil I am afraid. :)
12:25 < praenti> jo
12:25 < praenti> tomorrow marketing and cost management :-(
12:26 < praenti> friday computer architecture and next week software engineering ;-)
12:26 < [anders]> praenti: well, some interesting subjects there.. ;-)
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12:27 < praenti> and the next week after the next week economic basics and databases
12:28 * praenti doesnt study economic science even if you get the impression ...
12:28 < [anders]> hehehehehehehe
12:28 < praenti> but next semester i think this will be the first time you can call it technical computer science
12:30 * [anders] went to uni doing Computer Science and Technology.. Dropped out after just one year.. Only passed one course in that time, the only one not having anything with computers to do..
12:31 < praenti> [anders]: can you continue your study then?
12:32 < [anders]> praenti: I could.. but why should I? I have been working as a consultant for the last four years and my clients are happy.. :)
12:32 < praenti> [anders]: ok thats a reason to not continue
12:33 < [anders]> praenti: heh, that's one way to put it.. I also could not afford to go back to university..
12:33 < esden> re hi all
12:35 < [anders]> yo esden .. :)
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12:36 < praenti> hi esden
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12:43 < huebi> re
12:43 < Ge0rG> hi
12:43 < huebi> [anders]: the temporary solution for mtool follows:
12:43 < huebi> hi Ge0rG 
12:43 < huebi> hi praenti 
12:43 < huebi> hi esden 
12:44 < huebi> re rxr. How was your exam?
12:45 < huebi> [anders]: cd /usr/src/linux
12:45 < huebi> [anders]: make ARCH=i386 include/linux/version.h symlinks
12:45 < huebi> [anders]: mkdir -p /usr/include/asm
12:45 < huebi> cp -av include/asm/* /usr/include/asm
12:46 < huebi> cp -av include/linux /usr/include
12:46 < huebi> touch /usr/include/linux/{modversions.h,autoconf.h}
12:46 < huebi> [anders]: That solved the problems here.
12:47 < [anders]> huebi: should I add that in the mtools.conf ?
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12:50 < huebi> [anders]: no only in the shell. I just have a look at what's wrong in /usr/include:
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12:51 < huebi> usr.orig/include/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/ [....] Too many levels of symbolic links
12:51 < [anders]> huebi: perhaps that is something that has to be added to 1-linux or something like that?
12:52 < [anders]> if stage one of linux/linux-headers creates what is required in /usr/include ?
12:52 < huebi> what you do is just manually redo linux-header.
12:52 < [anders]> huebi: hmm.. and linux-header is run in both stage 1 and 3 ?
12:52 < huebi> [anders]: wait a moment, please
12:53 < [anders]> huebi: np
12:54 < huebi> [anders]: yes in both stages.
12:54 < [anders]> hmm.. something later on must be messing up /usr/include then...
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12:56 < huebi> root@zeus:/var/tmp/usr.orig/include# ll db*
12:56 < huebi> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root            1 Jul  8 12:53 db3 -> .
12:56 < huebi> nasty db3 link
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12:57 < [anders]> huebi: aahh... is this the thing Mike1 came across yesterday?
12:57 < huebi> dist/var/adm/flists/gdbm:gdbm: usr/include/dbm.h
12:57 < huebi> gdbm seems to be broken.
12:58 < [anders]> Hmm.... should we revert back to the 1.5.16 version of gdbm ?
12:59 < huebi> [anders]: we'll see in a few moments ;-)
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13:01 < [anders]> huebi: ok.. :) 
13:01 < huebi> root@zeus:/var/tmp/usr.orig/include/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/linux# <- uuuhh!!!
13:01 < esden> huebi: ?? what have you done ???
13:02 < huebi> esden: This must be gdbm
13:02 < esden> ouh ...
13:02 < esden> hmm ... ok ... whatever ... I have to leave ... >_<
13:02 < esden> cu l8er
13:02 < huebi> cu esden 
13:03 < [anders]> later esden 
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13:26 < [anders]>  anoncvs for 1.5 now up: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs c 
13:26 < [anders]> 11:50 < huebi> [anders]: no only in the shell. I just have a look at what's
13:26 < [anders]>                wrong in /usr/include:
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13:26 < [anders]> 11:50 < huebi> usr.orig/include/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/ [....] Too many levels of
13:27 < [anders]>                symbolic links
13:27 < [anders]> 11:50 < [anders]> huebi: perhaps that is something that has to be added to
13:27 < [anders]>                   1-linux or something like that?
13:27 < [anders]> 11:51 < [anders]> if stage one of linux/linux-headers creates what is required
13:27 < [anders]>                   in /usr/include ?
13:27 < [anders]> 11:51 < huebi> what you do is just manually redo linux-header.
13:27 < [anders]> 11:52 < [anders]> huebi: hmm.. and linux-header is run in both stage 1 and 3 ?
13:27 < [anders]> 11:52 < huebi> [anders]: wait a moment, please
13:27 < [anders]> 11:53 < [anders]> huebi: np
13:27 < [anders]> 11:53 < huebi> [anders]: yes in both stages.
13:27 < [anders]> 11:54 < [anders]> hmm.. something later on must be messing up /usr/include
13:27 < [anders]>                   then...
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13:27 < [anders]> 11:55 < huebi> root@zeus:/var/tmp/usr.orig/include# ll db*
13:27 < Freak> [anders]?
13:27 < [anders]> 11:55 < huebi> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root            1 Jul  8 12:53 db3 -> .
13:27 < [anders]> 11:55 < huebi> nasty db3 link
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13:27 < [anders]> 11:56 < [anders]> huebi: aahh... is this the thing Mike1 came across yesterday?
13:27 < [anders]> 11:56 < huebi> dist/var/adm/flists/gdbm:gdbm: usr/include/dbm.h
13:27 < [anders]> 11:57 < huebi> gdbm seems to be broken.
13:28 < [anders]> 11:57 < [anders]> Hmm.... should we revert back to the 1.5.16 version of gdbm ?
13:28 < Freak> [anders]!
13:28 < [anders]> 11:59 < huebi> [anders]: we'll see in a few moments ;-)
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13:28 < [anders]> 12:00 < [anders]> huebi: ok.. :)
13:28 < [anders]> 12:01 < huebi> root@zeus:/var/tmp/usr.orig/include/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/db3/linux# <- uuuhh!!!
13:28 < [anders]> 12:01 < esden> huebi: ?? what have you done ???
13:28 < [anders]> 12:01 < huebi> esden: This must be gdbm
13:28 < [anders]> 12:01 < esden> ouh ...
13:28 < [anders]> oops
13:28 < huebi> [anders]: do you have a copy and paste problem? ;>
13:28 < [anders]> I *really* didn't intend/mean to do that
13:28 < Freak> was soll das?!
13:28 < [anders]> Freak: I accidentally pasted about 30 odd lines...
13:28 < Freak> next time kill your irc-client
13:29 < Freak> instead of flooding us
13:29 < [anders]> huebi: hehehe... perhaps.. Not anymore though.. Will make sure I don't do that again.. Was having a window focus tinker..
13:29 < huebi> my little daughter Ella did that one time with Mathilda. Really funny ;-)
13:30 < [anders]> Freak: it's irssi I am using, not xchat..
13:30 < Freak> so what?
13:30 < Freak> can't kill irssi or what
13:31 < [anders]> you can't kill irssi by using the mouse..
13:31 < Freak> ?
13:31 < Freak> killall -9 irssi
13:31 < [anders]> while being inside irssi?
13:32 < Freak> hey do you have a *n?x-box over there or what?
13:32 < Freak> you have several terminals to log in to and kill irssi
13:32 < [anders]> also, this irssi is running on a different box to my workstation I am using right now..
13:32 < huebi> Freak: If it is pasted kill -9 does not do nothing any more.
13:32 < huebi> Freak: You should know that if you know Linux
13:32 < [anders]> Besides, I don't want to kill my irc client..
13:33 < Freak> well afaik irssi uses a buffer for that stuff
13:33 < Freak> so if you kill it, the buffer doesn't get sent anymore.
13:33 < huebi> Freak: Yes, but it's send far too fast.
13:33 < Freak> no it isnt
13:33 < [anders]> you have to be bloody quick to kill your irc client to stop the buffer being sent if you by accident pasted a lot into it..
13:33 < Freak> if it was sent that fast the server would kick him
13:37 < huebi> Freak: you are right. I tested it. Interesting that buffer thing.
14:09 < fake> now i'm at 790 kb
14:18 < fake> that's less than 400 when gzip-compressed
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14:23 < fake> grml. the ia32 Xfbdev has 690 kb.
14:24 < [anders]> fake: you mean it is 100kB smaller ?
14:25 < fake> yes.
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14:31 < [anders]> huebi: any luck with the /usr/include problem? I have not been able to look closer at it..
14:34 < esden> re hi all
14:37 < esden> fake: have you got your hp box running ?
14:37 < esden> fake: you wanted to send me the link about the crosscompiler building ...
14:38 < huebi> [anders]: Jo, I think I found it. Now I must test it.
14:38 < esden> huebi: is minicom compiling in the current 1.5 cvs tree under on intel?
14:38 < esden> -under
14:39 < [anders]> huebi: excellent.. let me know when it is in the CVS and I will replicate and add it into my tree...
14:39 < [anders]> I have a few things I have to port across from the CVS already..
14:39 < huebi> == 10:01:35 =[3]=> Building base package minicom [2.00.0 1.5.17_2002-07-08_09h20].
14:39 < huebi> == 10:01:47 07/08/02 =[3]=> Finished building package minicom.
14:39 < esden> hmm ... 
14:40 < esden> ok ... strange ...
14:40 < huebi> esden: linx* is broken. I test the new version now.
14:40 < huebi> +u
14:41 < esden> hmm ... ok ... tell me when it is not broken anymore
14:41 < esden> so I can update my tree and continue with my alpha work
14:42 < huebi> == 14:41:04 =[1]=> Building base package linux-src [2.4.18 1.5.17_2002-07-08_09h20].
14:42 * -> esden making -alt-dir extination to ./scripts/Download
14:44 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813C2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
14:44 < huebi> Moep thalerim 
14:44 < huebi> ;-)
14:45 < thalerim> meep huebi
14:45 < thalerim> hello
14:45 < thalerim> amsg ;P
14:45 < esden> hi thalerim 
14:46 < thalerim> moin esden :)
14:48 < huebi> == 14:47:27 =[1]=> Building base package linux-src [2.4.18 1.5.17_2002-07-08_09h20].
14:48 < thalerim> heh, have anyone ever compared Alan Cox with Santa Claus?
14:49 < huebi> SMP: kooooool irssi does not quit with ctrl-c anymore. Great!!
14:51 < esden> huebi: mine never did it ... o_O
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15:18 < thalerim> re
15:19 < huebi> re thalerim 
15:19 < praenti> 
15:20 * praenti want to know what ctrl-c do in irssi
15:20 < praenti> looks like nothing
15:21 < huebi> blubb
15:21 < huebi> praenti: yes, nothing
15:22 < huebi> add_flist () does not work ;(
15:22 < praenti> anybody know how i can use gpg with mozilla?
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15:24 < esden> praenti: use something usefull ... and get mutt *fg*
15:24 < esden> praenti: there it works perfectly ;-)
15:24 < huebi> praenti: Open the Webshell with Mozilla on your mail server, start mutt or pine and have fun *kidding*
15:25 < esden> huebi: goood idea ;-)
15:25 < huebi> praenti: enable the webshell.cgi on port 443
15:26 < huebi> praenti: all encoded then
15:26 * fake currently running a 690kb small X Server with enlighenment ;))
15:26 < huebi> praenti: to be even more secure use a Kangi font for the shell.
15:26 < fake> i never thought enlightenment could be so fast
15:26 < esden> fake: respect ... read scrollback
15:27 < huebi> fake: on ia32?
15:27 < fake> huebi: yes. i am at work...
15:27 < esden> argh ... the redhat server sux
15:28 < fake> esden: remind me again when i'm at home
15:28 < esden> fake: kk
15:28 < huebi> esden: argh ... the redhat server SuXSed
15:28 < huebi> hehe
15:28 < esden> hehe
15:29 < huebi> SuXed <- even better...
15:29 < esden> huebi: I am getting vim srpm's from them ... they got vim 6.1 to compile on alpha ... I am asking myself how ... 
15:29 < esden> I suppose that the srpm will also not compile an alpha but it is worth a try
15:30 < fake> hm.. how can i find out how much memory a process is using?
15:30 < huebi> esden: Wear a RotKaeppchen ;-) Then it knows you're the master
15:30 < fake> huebi: Error: Missing beard.
15:31 * [anders] has now synced up against CVS as best as he can..
15:31 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@217.14.165.35] has joined #rocklinux
15:31 < [anders]> re holyolli 
15:31 < esden> huebi: ok ... RotKaepchen aufsetz ... yuk ... that feels ugly .. my brain is melting ...
15:31 < holyolli> moin
15:31 < esden> hi holyolli 
15:31 < holyolli> hi anders
15:31 < holyolli> hi esden
15:31 < tsa> huhu holyolli
15:31 < holyolli> tach tsa
15:32 < holyolli> tsa: was gibts?
15:32 < fake> hm... any ideas ?
15:32 < fake> process-size in RAM? how to find out?
15:32 < esden> top ?
15:32 < [anders]> huebi: how did the testing go with gdbm ?
15:33 < fake> esden: top is inadequate
15:33 < huebi> [anders]: I'm on the linux-header issue...
15:33 < [anders]> huebi: /usr/include you mean? Ok.. :)
15:34 < fake> ha ha ha... gnome-terminal eats twice as much RAM as Xfbdev *lol*
15:34 < thalerim> fake: cat /proc/<pid>/stat{,us}
15:34 < fake> thalerim: thanks
15:35 < fake> VmSize:    9504 kB
15:35 < fake> o_O
15:35 < esden> root@natalie:/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES# ls | wc -w
15:35 < esden>     121
15:35 < esden> root@natalie:/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES#
15:35 < fake> thats too huge
15:35 < esden> outsh
15:35 < fake> VmExe:     648 kB (*g*)
15:38 < esden> root@natalie:/usr/src/redhat/SPECS# rpm -ba ./vim.spec
15:38 < esden> error: Architecture is excluded: alpha
15:38 < esden> muahahaha
15:38 < esden> stupid ass*****
15:38 < holyolli> *lol*
15:39 < holyolli> ./dcc send esden vim-alpha-6.1.tar.bz2
15:39 < holyolli> ;-)
15:40 < esden> holyolli: what have you done to compile it ???
15:40 < holyolli> esden: using rocklinux ;-)
15:40 < tsa> esden: ./configure; make; make install
15:40 < tsa> ;-)
15:41 < esden> hahaha ... tsa ... it is not working ... I get ... mom
15:42 < huebi> esden: ./configure; make; make install <- That's the common way for GNU Software (I think you should now get rid of the RotKaeppchen) *eg*
15:42 < holyolli> .oO(just use joe....not vim ;-)
15:42 < huebi> holyolli: echo >>
15:42 < huebi> hehe
15:42 < esden> i get 984 lines of error messages
15:43 < esden> holyolli: joe ... you want to die reght ?
15:43 < holyolli> hehe
15:43 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
15:43 < Mike1> Hi all
15:43 < esden> i use nvi currently ... it is ok .. but i would like to have syntax highlighting ...
15:43 * holyolli flüchtet schnell unter die dusche...
15:43 < esden> hi Mike1 
15:43 < holyolli> hi Mike1
15:44 < thalerim> ewww nvi!!!
15:44 < huebi> Hello Mike1 ;-)
15:44 * -> esden verfolgt holyolli und ersticht holyolli in der dusche ... damit es nicht so viel zum aufreumen gibt ;-)
15:44 < Mike1> :)
15:44 < thalerim> moin mikel
15:44 < thalerim> s,l,1,
15:44 < thalerim> damn xchat fontset
15:44 < esden> thalerim: nvi is really cool ... and has nearly everything I need beside syntax highilghting
15:45 < thalerim> huh?
15:45 < Mike1> thalerim: is ok :)
15:45 < thalerim> nvi tries to be a fully clone of the original vi
15:46 < esden> I do not need anything else of the gimmicks vim provides ... when I have them ok ... but when they are not there it is ok too ... but the syntaxhighlighting is a thing that i really appreciate
15:46 * huebi fixing sysfiles...
15:46 * -> esden away: smoking
15:46 * Mike1 creating ext-src iso
15:47 < thalerim> esden: then you do not know about all the pretty cool things of vim, I even feel a major difference between them... my 6th sense :-)
15:49 < esden> thalerim: I know ... that is true ... I love the features of vim ... but I can live without them ...
15:49 < esden> I also love windowmaker ... but I can alse work with evilwm
15:49 < thalerim> PAGAN!!!!
15:50 < esden> ???
15:50 < thalerim> Pagane ist das deutsche word
15:50 < thalerim> pagane, heide, gottloser ...
15:51 < esden> thalerim: if you think so ...
15:52 < thalerim> highest god of all Vi-gods is VIM... 
15:52 * thalerim prays: Oh Lord, forgive him ... he doesn't know what he says ;)
15:53 < Mike1> ROTL
15:54 < thalerim> esden: *knuddel* just kidding ;0)
15:56 < [anders]> re Mike1 
15:56 < [anders]> right, my snap is now up2date against CVS.. (apart from my tweaks)
15:56 < esden> thalerim: *rofl* I know ...
15:56 * -> esden fighting with vim on alpha ... 
15:56 * -> esden vs. alpha
15:57 < esden> !!fight!!
15:57 < [anders]> erk.. vi is an abomination.. emacs is much better..
15:57 < holyolli> .oO(head shot!)
15:57 < holyolli> .oO(hm. good idea...we can play ut since a long time again..)
15:58 < esden> [anders]: PAGAN!!!
15:58 < esden> ;-)
15:58 * thalerim kicks [anders]'s godless ass in assignment of Lord himself
15:58 < Mike1> [anders]: nice, i am still working on the ext src cd and also a new base one hopefully i will be done in a couple of hours
15:58 < thalerim> ****** must die *******
16:00 * -> esden smoking
16:00 < thalerim> [anders]: well, i was not born with 12 or even 14 fingers, so I am just not able to use emacs ...
16:01 < holyolli> cu later
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16:01 < huebi> [anders]: When we all meat at 18C3 in december suddenly the question came up: "Does sombody know if our emacs package is even working?"
16:02 < huebi> No, answer...
16:02 < huebi> -,
16:03 * Mike1 *g
16:03 < tsa> who cares...
16:03 < tsa> emacs isn't important.
16:03 < thalerim> no wonder, we are akk leaded by Mathilda, and Mathilda is the most evil supporter of VIM-ow-GOD
16:03 < huebi> tsa: LOL
16:03 < thalerim> s,akk,all
16:03 < tsa> i don't remind using emacs.
16:04 < tsa> [tsa@azathoth ~]$ pkg-list |grep emacs
16:04 < tsa> [tsa@azathoth ~]$ 
16:05 < Mike1> i haven't even tryed it, am i loosing anything?
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16:06 < [anders]> huebi: it was working in 1.4.0
16:07 < Mike1> huebi: there are a bunch of broken links on the ext files
16:07 * thalerim delights at the 'was'
16:08 < [anders]> Mike1: the editor of choice for people usually depends on the first editor they were shown..
16:08 < [anders]> thalerim: I will make damned sure it works in 1.5.17 as well.. :)
16:08 < thalerim> hm
16:09 < Mike1> [anders]: mmm maybe, though the first ""editor"" that someone showed me was joe
16:09 < Mike1> and i use vim :)
16:09 < esden> you are all wrong ... the best editor ever is ed ;-)
16:09 < [anders]> when I first started off with unix I was shown Emacs and I have used it since.. I can suffer VI for smaller edits, like config files where you only want to mod a line or two.. For bigger edits, Emacs it is..
16:09 < Mike1> esden: hell yeah :)
16:10 < [anders]> thalerim: and you don't need 14 fingers for emacs.. :)
16:10 < Mike1> [anders]: what things does emacs offer to you that you like more than vim?
16:10 < [anders]> However, anyone only typing with their indexfingers will probably have a problem with Emacs..
16:10 < thalerim> you have to know at least a bit about the vi syntax, Vi is the standard editor in our unix world
16:11 < thalerim> actually it's ed, but vi also
16:11 < esden> [anders]: try to put emacs on a boot disk ... or run on a terminal that is not transferring meta keys
16:11 < thalerim> Mikel: a lot of things nobody wants
16:11 < [anders]> Mike1: how long is a piece of string? I find the search and replace function easier to use, the way buffers works, multiple windows editing the same file etc..
16:12 < Mike1> [anders]: i see
16:12 < [anders]> esden: that's what you got the ESC key for.. ;-)
16:12 < thalerim> [anders]: how do you open a new window
16:12 < thalerim> with emacs
16:13 < [anders]> thalerim: in X, C-x 5 2
16:13 < thalerim> 5 2 stands for?
16:13 < [anders]> open new window.. :)
16:13 < thalerim> oh my g od
16:14 < [anders]> It is a linked type of window so you can see the one file in both windows at the same time..
16:14 < thalerim> in vim it's ctrl + W + s
16:14 < thalerim> and to open a filename under the cursor you type ctrl + w + f
16:15 < [anders]> C-x C-f opens a file... :)
16:15 < thalerim> [S] and [F] is closer to [W] than [5] [2] to [X] at all
16:15 < thalerim> :P
16:15 < [anders]> (and no, you don't need to let go of the C key between x and f)
16:16 < thalerim> [anders]: actually vi pretty sucks, but Vim is divine... absolutely divine
16:16 < [anders]> thalerim: Gnome or KDE? tar or cpio? mutt or pine? There are plenty of choices out there and that is a good thing..
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16:17 < thalerim> NO, EMACS HAS TO BE DESTROYED !!!!
16:17 < Mike1> postfix or sendmail 
16:17 < [anders]> I happen to prefer Emacs for serious editing, like you prefer vim. 
16:18 < thalerim> [anders]: yea, no problem with this ... I'm kidding as the most of the time :-)
16:18 < [anders]> thalerim: :-)
16:18 < huebi> 16:17 < thalerim> NO, EMACS HAS TO BE DESTROYED !!!! <- We are not in the middle east (at least I think so) ;-)
16:18 < thalerim> huebi: we are
16:19 < Mike1> I dont really care about what editor anyone use, we certainly have differences which is ok because we can make great things and look a the things in different ways, anyways all that matters is that we make some nice code :)
16:19 < [anders]> vi is handy for quick things.. but I would not want to use it as my editor in mutt for example.. *shudder*
16:19 < thalerim> because's our leader is a Cow... 
16:19 < huebi> Mike1: ACK!!
16:19 < [anders]> Mike1: Ack!
16:20 < huebi> [anders]: I came to vi because I had to admin several different UNIX/Linux boxes. The common editor was vi.
16:20 < huebi> s/common/only common/
16:20 < thalerim> i wanted to write almost the same, I have absolutely no prejudices against what people uses i.r.t. OS, Editor, *clients or whatever
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16:21 < bluefire> Hi
16:21 < huebi> moin bluefire 
16:22 < bluefire> huebi: Phew. Gtk-gnutella läuft jetzt auch mit Gtk2.
16:22 < Mike1> Quoting a good friend of mine (esden) we are all like familly here, and we sure have our differences be we still support eachother thats the cool thing
16:22 < thalerim> what's the female counterpart of Lord?
16:22 < Mike1> Lady
16:22 * fake is the family member everybody pretends not to know :)
16:23 < Mike1> fake: hahaha
16:23 < thalerim> fake: huh? do i know you`?
16:23 < fake> thalerim: Mistress ;)
16:23 < fake> Mike1: see?!
16:24 < Mike1> lol
16:24 < thalerim> I am reading now, cu later
16:24 < Mike1> cu thalerim
16:24 < fake> cya.
16:25 < huebi> cu thalerim 
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16:29 < huebi> sysfiles is now fixed ;-)) http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/sysfiles/sysfiles.conf.diff?r1=text&tr1=1.1&r2=text&tr2=1.4&diff_format=h
16:31 < [anders]> huebi: that is why many unix admins swear by VI.. it is there by default...
16:36 * [anders] really needs to go to one of these Linux gatherings...
16:36 < [anders]> If nothing else, to meet people I chat lots with.. :)
16:36 * Mike1 too
16:37 < huebi> [anders]: I'd be glad to remember the first editor I used on IBM mainframes in 1982
16:38 < [anders]> Mike1: you might want to hold off with the private 1.5.17, I don't think it builds straight through yet.. huebi is looking at the /usr/include problem and before that is fixed, I doubt this will build cleanly..
16:38 < [anders]> huebi: there was a VM editor, and a pretty nasty one at that.. Can't remember it though..
16:39 < Mike1> [anders]: for the only thing i am doing with pribvate sources is downloading the base and ext packages sources to create cds, i will hold the build :)
16:39 < [anders]> Mike1: okidoki.. :)
16:40 * huebi building glibc again. I erased the include files *g*
16:40 < [anders]> Mike1: are you updating the ext's with new URL's etc when you find b0rken ones?
16:40 < [anders]> huebi: oops
16:41 < esden> muahaha ... it was only one line irrelevant code that produced these tons of errors in vim
16:42 < Mike1> [anders]: i am intending to, then i sent patches
16:42 < Mike1> [anders]: you think its a bad idea?
16:44 < [anders]> Mike1: no, it is a very good idea! (just checking to see when the ISO might be ready.. ;-)
16:44 < Mike1> [anders]: hopefully soon, there are also a few problems with soem base pkgs so i will take care of that too
16:45 < [anders]> base pkgs? only one I have problems with at the moment is linux-2.2.21 and then only cksum error..
16:45 < Mike1> [anders]: I am pretty sure i will finish by today with both base and ext cd
16:45 < [anders]> Mike1: good stuff. :)
16:45 < Mike1> [anders]: thanks
16:49 < huebi> http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/scripts/unsorted.pz <- fixed 30h ago ;-)
16:49 < huebi> linux-2.2.21
16:49 < Mike1> huebi: oh nice
16:51 < [anders]> huebi: aaahhh, so that is what the unsorted.pz is for.. :)
16:52 < huebi> [anders]: Yes, for the source files not needed for any package.
16:54 < [anders]> huebi: well, patch is applied and will be tested shortly..
16:56 < Mike1> Anyone has ever used netsaint?
17:02 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux
17:03 < Mike1> Hola h0h0
17:04 < h0h0> `lo
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17:06 < Mike1> hi WKaibigan
17:06 -!- coldie [jeff@232pc232.sshunet.nl] has joined #rocklinux
17:06 < WKaibigan> Hi there.
17:06 < Mike1> re coldie, how are you today jeffrey?
17:15 < th> 9005:0080: AIC-7892A U160/m seems to be adaptec controler. but adaptec website doesn't list it
17:16 < th> very strange
17:18 < esden> th: perhups it is so bad that they do not want anyone knows about this product ;-)
17:18 < esden> .
17:18 < esden> ups
17:18 < th> esden: i don't think so
17:19 < esden> th: was only an idea
17:19 < th> perhaps AIC7892A is just the chip
17:21 < esden> can be
17:21 * Mike1 fixing cksum errors on a few estension packages
17:21 < Mike1> [anders]: i'm almost finished
17:21 < esden> *jump_around* I have vim !!! woot woot
17:24 < huebi> 00:0b.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec 7892A (rev 02)
17:25 < huebi> 29160
17:26 < [anders]> Mike1: nice one.. :)
17:27 < th> huebi: yea. thanks.
17:27 < th> huebi: i really need some cabling advise
17:27 < huebi> th jo, gret. Ask.
17:27 < huebi> +a
17:28 < th> huebi: well. i have the ecrix autopak 1/15 connected to the ext. 68pin LVD/SE
17:29 < huebi> ecrix autopak 1/15 < a tape library?
17:29 < th> huebi: ack
17:30 < th> huebi: i'm afraid it's a question of that autoloader how to terminate or not terminate the LVD/SE cable
17:31 < esden> boah ... is the download script in 1.5 ill ... X-(
17:31 < huebi> LVD is normaly terminated at the end of the cable.
17:32 < th> huebi: the autoloader has to 68pin connectirs
17:32 < th> huebi: the autoloader has to 68pin connectors
17:32 < th> huebi: ATM i connected the cable to one of them and a terminator to the other
17:33 < huebi> th should be ok
17:33 < th> huebi: it does not seem so
17:34 < th> scsi0: Unexpected busfree in Message-in phase
17:34 < th> SEQADDR == 0x168
17:34 < th> tons of them
17:34 < th> scsi0:0:3:0: Cmd aborted from QINFIFO
17:34 < th> aic7xxx_abort returns 0x2002
17:34 < th> a lot of trash in dmesg output
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17:36 < huebi> th: can you use an other SCSI controller? Taps are often a little bit tricky. And use one bus only for the autoloader. No extra disks on that bus.
17:36 < th> huebi: there is nothing else connected to that adaptec controller
17:37 < huebi> th: Try an other one preferable LSI-Logic or so..
17:38 < th> huebi: but i need another LVD controller
17:38 < SMP> th (and huebi, too): since install-disks no longer needs the empty directories - any objections if I rmdir them in the repository?
17:38 < th> SMP: should be ok.
17:40 < SMP> *WAAAHHHG*
17:40 < SMP> configure:11378: checking for ALSA version >= 0.9.0
17:40 < SMP> configure:11449: gcc -o conftest -g -O2    conftest.c -lasound   1>&5
17:40 < SMP> configure:11405: empty file name in `#include'
17:40 < SMP> [...]
17:40 < SMP> #include <>
17:40 < th> huebi: is that a problem with adaptec controllers?
17:43 < huebi> th: no, normaly the scsi controller in the tape is not the best one.
17:44 < th> huebi: but you do think LSI-Logic controller should do a better job here?
17:44 < huebi> SMP: Yes, delete them with cvs rm, pleas. (for backward checkouts)
17:44 < huebi> +e
17:44 < SMP> huebi: you can't 'cvs rm' directories
17:45 < Mike1> huebi: where is this stored:
17:45 < Mike1> File previously not found, so skipping.
17:45 < Mike1> when i try to download a file and then i try to re fetch it?
17:45 < huebi> Mike1: rm -f src/N*
17:46 < Mike1> huebi: thanks you so much
17:46 < SMP> done.
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17:50 < owl> ´hi
17:50 < Mike1> hi owl
17:51 < th> huebi: ?
17:51 < huebi> SMP: I just made a backup of the repository did you delete the directoties before that?
17:52 < huebi> th cat /proc/scsi/scsi does not work?
17:52 < th> huebi: of course it does
17:52 < huebi> th paste it, please
17:53 < th> Attached devices: 
17:53 < th> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00
17:53 < th>   Vendor: ECRIX    Model: VXA-1            Rev: 2A6A
17:53 < th>   Type:   Sequential-Access                ANSI SCSI revision: 02
17:53 < th> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00
17:53 < th>   Vendor: SPECTRA  Model: 215              Rev: E012
17:53 < th>   Type:   Medium Changer                   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
17:53 < huebi> th: looks good.
17:53 < SMP> huebi: I don't know when 'just' was ;). but: 17:46| < SMP> done.
17:53 < th> huebi: yes
17:53 < huebi> SMP: Then I was too late ;(
17:54 < SMP> well the directories were no big deal at all
17:54 < huebi> -rw-r--r--   1 huebi    users     4525302 Jul  9 17:49 rockcvs-2001-07-09.tar.bz2
17:54 < huebi> SMP: doesn't matter..
17:56 * SMP nuckelt an der Mate Flasche rum und hat Hunger, ist aber zu traege zum Essen
17:56 < huebi> th: try the other connector on the controller. the SE one.
17:57 < Mike1> [anders]: take a look at private:
17:57 < Mike1> ls ext-config/kdelibs/kdelibs.ext*
17:58 < fake> SMP: X in 790 kb (uncompressed)
17:58 < SMP> fake: yes, seen it. great!
17:58 < fake> statically linked complete all-in-one binary
17:59 < fake> SMP: uClibc-based X coming soon ;-)
17:59 < esden> huebi: I have added the -alt-dir option to ./scripts/Download ... should I commit it to the cvs ... ?
18:00 < huebi> esden: jo, do it.
18:00 < th> huebi: 29160 has only 1 external 68pin connector
18:00 < esden> huebi: kk
18:01 < [anders]> Mike1: yeah, there are some files in there.. :)
18:01 < [anders]> Which one were you interested in?
18:01 < huebi> th: Get a big grinding machine and get rid of the case of the computer.. ;-)
18:01 < Mike1> [anders]: none of then is just damn html code 
18:02 < Mike1> i was just making sure i was not the only one with that shit
18:02 < [anders]> the files are just html?
18:03 < Mike1> cat any of those files and see it by ur self
18:03 * huebi tries to get to the ground of a 1.95583 kg glas of Nutella.
18:03 < [anders]> Mike1: in ext-config/kdelibs/ there are some files, they are okay for me however..
18:05 < Mike1> yes i know
18:05 < Mike1> only the *.ext* are fucked up
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18:05 < th> huebi: ok. thanks for now
18:05 < th> bbl folks
18:05 < huebi> cu th
18:06 < [anders]> Mike1: I don't have a ext-config/kdelibs/kdelibs.ext file·..
18:07 < Mike1> [anders]: actually is something like this:
18:07 < [anders]> hmm... I have not tried to fetch any ext-files yet however..
18:07 < Mike1> kdelibs.ext\?logsort\=date\&search\=None\&hideattic\=1\&sortby\=file\&hidecvsroot\=1\&diff_format\=h.1
18:07 < [anders]> Hmmm.. Nope, not got that one..
18:08 < huebi> Mike1, [anders]: I'm going to move kde to base in the next days. And I update to KDE 3.0.2
18:09 < [anders]> huebi: eek.. Okay.. moving all of kde into base? Base will be huge.. Will it still fit on one CD?
18:09 < huebi> [anders]: I'll test that.
18:10 < huebi> on slowlaris it nees 185 as binaries.
18:10 < huebi> +d +MB
18:11 < [anders]> Hmm.. the CD is already 550MB in ROCK 1.5.16...
18:12 < [anders]> I suppose it will fit on an 80 minute CD... But only just..
18:12 < huebi> jo, I must find out how big the packages are and if it's too big Ileave some packages in ext.
18:13 < [anders]> there are probably a few things that could go into ext already.. 
18:22 < Mike1> so i exclude all kde stuff from the cd?
18:23 < huebi> Mike1: Allmost all, I think. But I don't know it really all
18:23 < huebi> comes to base
18:24 < fake> aaah... my car is being washed for free.
18:24 < Mike1> ok i just make and ext cd without everything that starts with kde
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18:24 < uninvited> re
18:24 < Mike1> if something missing we take care of it later
18:24 < Mike1> re uninvited
18:24 < uninvited> Buenos dias !
18:25 < Mike1> Buenos dias uninvited ;)
18:26 < uninvited> hehe
18:27 < huebi> Mike1: fine.
18:30 < fake> -Dlinux -D__arm__ (so ein trottel... wie kommt denn der jetz auf ARM?)
18:33 < huebi> fake: Acorn A3000 irgend wo in der Naehe? *g*
18:39 < esden> fake: anscheinent ist dein processor ein armer kerl oder so ;-)
18:40 < fake> esden: Dual SuperSparc?
18:41 < esden> lool ... hmm ... vielleicht bist du gemein zu denen ... deshalb meinen die dass die arm sind ... ;-)
18:42 < esden> ich will mal einen dual arm palm haben ;-)
18:43 < fake> esden: einen Palm mit einem ARM-Prozessor haette ich auch gerne.
18:43 < fake> dummerweise haben die dinger Dragons drin.
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18:45 < Mike1> hi Freak
18:45 < Freak> huhu
18:45 < Freak> uhm
18:45 < Freak> hi ;)
18:46 < esden> fake: hehe ... drachen in palms ... interessant ... ;-)
18:48 < uninvited> can anyone explain me AUTOMOUNT support while configuring samba ?
18:48 < fake> esden: Jargon File, "SEX".
18:48 < uninvited> What does AUTOMOUNT actually do ?
18:48 < fake> You can't have sex with an apple, but you can with a dragon.
18:49 < fake> ANL + ORL
18:49 < esden> viel spass mit palm dann .... ;-)
18:54 < esden> argh ... hedwig is so stupid ... argh
18:55 < esden> sorry I had to say it somewhere ... 
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19:08 * Mike1 feels like shit right now
19:08 < Mike1> i think i should go :(
19:08 < huebi> Mike1: what's up?
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19:09 < FireHazard> anyone remember mne
19:09 < FireHazard> me*
19:09 < FireHazard> :P
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19:11 < esden> FireHazard: schould we ?
19:12 < FireHazard> no, i am differnet
19:12 < FireHazard> lol
19:12 < FireHazard> there any place to get 1.6 - 1.7 binary isos?
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19:14 < fake> FireHazard: if your IP Stack allows time-travelling, yes
19:14 < FireHazard> i take it no one has even tried to compile 1.7 yet
19:15 < fake> FireHazard: well, yes of course
19:15 < fake> but there are no isos for 1.7 yet
19:15 < FireHazard> ahh.
19:15 < fake> and a lot of work is being done to stabilize 1.5 into 1.6
19:16 < esden> FireHazard: yes some people have compiled 1.7
19:17 < huebi> FireHazard: have a look at the changelog: http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/
19:17 < esden> I menaged it also some times .. but 1.7 is not made to compile for now ... it is there to implement new cool stuff ... and when it is implemented then it will also compile without big effort ...
19:19 < rxr> 1.7 compiles mostly 
19:19 < rxr> 969 builds total, 843 completed fine, 126 with errors.
19:19 < rxr> the errors are Enlightenment 17 and some Gnome2 stuff only ...
19:20 < chrisime> hallo rxr
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19:20 < rxr> hi all
19:20 < Mike1> re
19:20 < Mike1> Hi rxr
19:20 < chrisime> oh sigh!
19:20 < chrisime> hat wer ahnung von perl?
19:20 < Mike1> huebi: we must update lsof from 4.63 to 4.64
19:21 < Mike1> or add a /OLD/ dir on the dir of the .pz file :)
19:21 < FireHazard> bummer
19:21 < Mike1> also i noticed there is a mistake on the kiss file
19:21 < FireHazard> gnome 2 is a requirement :P
19:21 < Mike1> it is looking for a tar.gz.gz file
19:21 < Mike1> must fix the typo
19:21 < Mike1> huebi: ?
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19:24 < huebi> Mike1: re
19:24 < Mike1> sorry i left a bit ago, i just feel a little bit sad
19:25 < huebi> Mike1: I do the update now
19:27 < fake> huebi: BTW. the setenv output-device screen:-thing did not work
19:28 < fake> huebi: the JS accepted it, but cut off everything after "screen"
19:28 < Mike1> huebi: gut
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19:30 < huebi> * 33 degree centigrade in here - time for an air condition
19:31 < Mike1> huebi: 21 degree here :)
19:32 < fake> huebi: any further advice?
19:33 < fake> NULL degree here (unmeasured)
19:36 < huebi> fake: only 4 computers are running. 2 others are shut down.
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19:37 < fake> huebi: i ment regarding the js ;-)
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19:40 < huebi> fake: hehehe ;-))
19:41 < huebi> Mike1: http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/lsof/ Thank you.
19:42 < Mike1> huebi: you are welcome
19:42 < Mike1> huebi: did you fix the kiss typo?
19:43 < huebi> Mike1: what is with kiss?
19:43 < huebi> Mike1: Ah, I see
19:43 < Mike1> well at least in the private sources it looks for a tar.gz.gz file
19:43 < Mike1> so of course it doesnt exist
19:44 < Mike1> have a look at the kiss.pz file
19:44 < Mike1> please
19:46 < huebi> Mike1: http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/kiss/kiss.pz?rev=1.3&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
19:46 < huebi> Mike1: Thank you. ;-))
19:46 < Mike1> huebi: welcome
19:46 < Mike1> hope you dont mind me bothering around with this stuff
19:47 < huebi> Mike1: No, of course not. It's a great help. 
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19:49 < Mike1> great to hear that
19:51 < [anders]> okay.. I'm home..
19:51 < huebi> culata [anders] 
19:51 < Mike1> [anders]: 
19:52 < Mike1> [anders]: i am almost done with the 2 cds missing less than 8 packages
19:52 < [anders]> Mike1: that is excellent news.. :)
19:52 < [anders]> cya later huebi 
19:52 < Mike1> later [anders]
19:52 < [anders]> huebi: if you are going that is.. :)
19:52 < huebi> ;-))
19:52 < [anders]> Mike1: I'm not going.. :)
19:52 < [anders]> 18:50 < huebi> culata [anders] 
19:53 < huebi> ok thanks
19:53 * huebi learned sth *g*
19:53 < Mike1> [anders]: in bit more and you will have the cds
19:53 < fake> sed -e s,I'm driving home,I'm at home, < /dev/huebi/mind
19:54 < [anders]> Mike1: very nice, many thanks.. :)
19:54 < Mike1> bitte
19:57 < [anders]> huebi: any luck with the linux-header package ?
19:57 < huebi> [anders]: yes, it seems to look good. I check it in now.
19:58 < [anders]> huebi: good news.. I'll grab CVS and patch my tree.. once that's done, I'll make .tar.bz2 and upload it..
19:59 < huebi> ok
19:59 < [anders]> pi**ing about with the patch is what takes time...
19:59 < [anders]> :-/
20:00 < [anders]> avoid hand-editing unified diffs if you can chaps.. ;-)
20:00 < Mike1> huebi: perhaps when i finish the isos it might be a good chance for a new snap with ur changes and the stuff that anders and i have contributed with?
20:02 < huebi> linux* is now in cvs
20:02 < huebi> Mike1: I want to make a new snap tonight.
20:03 < Mike1> huebi: excellent
20:03 < Mike1> i hope i can have the base and ext src cds before then
20:07 < [anders]> huebi: you will have to update the kiss/kiss.conf as well I think.. Look at it and you'll see what I mean..
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20:08 < huebi> [anders]: just done ;-)
20:08 < Mike1> [anders]: ???
20:08 < huebi> ...and tested
20:09 < [anders]> Mike1: the kiss tar.gz was doubly compressed.. kiss.conf highlighted this.. 
20:09 < [anders]> the archive kiss.conf would try to extract was tar.gz.bz2.. :)
20:10 < Mike1> [anders]: oh hehe
20:12 < [anders]> :)
20:13 * Mike1 thinks we are really close to a stable tree
20:16 < Mike1> huebi: minicoms url must be updated also needs to be fixed mksum i think better make a patch on this, or you prefer me the give you those 2 things here?
20:17 < esden> Mike1: I fixed the chksum
20:18 < esden> and the url
20:18 < Mike1> esden oh :) great
20:18 < esden> I will update the cvs is some minutes
20:19 < Mike1> esden: great :)
20:20 * [anders] has just finished hacking the patch for the private tree... hopefully I can get the linux-headers from anoncvs in a minute or two and add that as well..
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20:23 < Mike1> re WKaibigan
20:23 < WKaibigan> Evening
20:24 < huebi> esden: make a cvs up -dP of minicom first!!!
20:25 < huebi> esden: before you cvs ci a file this is nessesary.
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20:29 < Mike1> re h0h0
20:30 < h0h0> `lo mike1
20:31 * [anders] has now added the 2nd patch..
20:32 * Mike1 has finished to download all base src files now creating iso
20:32 < Mike1> Almost done with ext src files too
20:32 < huebi> Mike1: kool ;-)
20:33 < Mike1> huebi: cksum error for linux-2.2.21 already fixed right?
20:33 < huebi> Mike1: yes
20:34 < Mike1> huebi: download url for grub is down but i had test it before
20:34 < esden> ahh it stopped to rain ... cool
20:36 < huebi> Mike1: you can also use ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rock-pkg-1.5/ 
20:37 < esden> huebi: -alt-dir option in the cvs
20:37 < esden> the minicom update coming soon ... or have you fixed it already ?
20:37 < Mike1> huebi: hehe oh nice thanks
20:37 < huebi> * never rm -rf /usr/include/* if you want to compile sth later *g*
20:38 < esden> I saw there something ... but the path ended with index.html ... and that could not be right ... or am I wrong ?
20:38 < huebi> esden: http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/minicom/minicom.pz?rev=1.3&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
20:38 < huebi> ?
20:39 < esden> huebi: there is http://www.netsonic.fi/~walker/minicom.html ... that is not right ... i think
20:40 < huebi> esden: it works...
20:41 < huebi> esden: but i need to correct the cksum.
20:41 < Mike1> huebi: 4020884271
20:42 < esden> hmm ... strange ...
20:42 < rxr> huebi: maybe the site got cracked?
20:42 < rxr> huebi: it might be worth to inform the author about the changed checksum ...
20:42 < huebi> rxr: 3392044057 <- my cksum ???
20:43 < esden> my minicom.pz contains now this line ... and works ... (tested): 3392044057 minicom/minicom-2.00.0.src.tar.gz http://www.netsonic.fi/~walker/
20:43 < Mike1> mmmm...
20:43 < huebi> very starange
20:44 < huebi> 370627223 <- this is the old one.
20:44 < esden> huebi: i test yours now ...
20:44 < huebi> esden: mom
20:45 < esden> huebi: in the cvs is the wrong chksum ... ???
20:45 < huebi> first test the files.
20:45 < huebi> esden: it's the old one.
20:45 < esden> my file is tested ... seems to be ok
20:46 < huebi> esden: Is it the same as the old one?
20:46 < esden> huebi: yes I know ...
20:46 < esden> hmm ...
20:46 < esden> I have not the old one ... with the other chksum ... do you have it ?
20:47 < huebi> esden: I test it.
20:47 < esden> kk
20:49 < huebi> they are different...
20:49 < esden> in how far ?
20:50 < huebi> Only all URLs and mail adresses got changed
20:50 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# cvs ci -m"new download path new checksum. All URLs and mail adresses got changed" base-config/minicom/minicom.pz 
20:51 < huebi> Checking in base-config/minicom/minicom.pz;
20:51 < huebi> /home/rockcvs/cvs/rock-1.5/base-config/minicom/minicom.pz,v  <--  minicom.pz
20:51 < huebi> new revision: 1.4; previous revision: 1.3
20:51 < huebi> done
20:51 < huebi> -URL:           http://www.pp.clinet.fi/~walker
20:51 < huebi> +URL:           http://www.netsonic.fi/~walker
20:52 < huebi>  and even more of that. 
20:53 < esden> ok ... so i will get yours
20:54 < esden> huebi: could you please test the -alt-dir option ? if all is ok ?
20:56 < Mike1> huebi: whats the Create-CD scripts syntaxis again please, somehow is not working
20:56 < huebi> esden: Yes, I do that.
20:58 < Mike1> huebi: nevermind it worked
20:58 < huebi> Mike1: ok
20:58 < esden> Mike1: don't you get an error message ?
20:58 < Mike1> esden: yes i was getting an error seems like the script is defectuos
20:58 < huebi> mom
20:59 < Mike1> but i just used the one from my previous source tree
20:59 < huebi> Mike1: get the new one from cvs
21:00 < Mike1> huebi: later i am creating isos :)
21:00 < huebi> http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/rock-1.5/scripts/Create-CD?rev=1.6
21:00 < Mike1> huebi: btw where cna i upload them?
21:01 < [anders]> --20:00:11--  ftp://vic.cc.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/lsof_4.64.tar.gz
21:01 < [anders]>   (try: 8) => `base-archive/lsof/lsof_4.64.tar.gz'
21:01 < [anders]> Connecting to vic.cc.purdue.edu[128.210.135.168]:21... connected.
21:01 < [anders]> Logging in as anonymous ... 
21:01 < [anders]> The server refuses login.
21:01 < [anders]> Retrying.
21:01 < [anders]> err, any idea anyone? 
21:01 < huebi> [anders]: server ist overloaded..
21:02 < Mike1> [anders]: yes they only accept 28 connections they were full a bit ago
21:02 < [anders]> huebi: aah.. that makes sense.. :)
21:02 < huebi> [anders]: moment...
21:02 < Mike1> [anders]: i finished the base+opt src cd iso
21:02 < Mike1> i will now upload it for you
21:02 < Mike1> still finishing ext iso
21:02 < esden> [anders]: I have the file here ... it came slowly but it came ...
21:03 < esden> [anders]: do you want me to put it somewhere online ?
21:03 < huebi> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rock-pkg-1.5/base-archive/lsof/lsof_4.64.tar.bz2
21:03 < esden> ohh ok ...
21:04 < [anders]> I'll pull it from there instead then.. :)
21:04 < [anders]> Mike1: excellent. :) is the ISO online somewhere?
21:04 < [anders]> ah, it will be.. in a bit :)
21:04 < Mike1> [anders]: not yet i was hoping huebi would give me some space but i dunno
21:05 < huebi> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/rock-pkg-1.5/ <- here is my local source mirror <- but very slow to the outside.
21:05 < Mike1> anyone wanna help?
21:05 < SMP> why the hell do you need a src iso?!
21:05 < Mike1> SMP: so you dont need to download sources from their url and deal with broken links or mksum errors maybe
21:06 < [anders]> I think I have most the base+opt sources anyway.. the ext ISO would be very handy though..
21:07 < Mike1> [anders]: ok give some more time i go to have lunch now and then i finish it
21:07 * SMP linking all his 1.5 trees into one giant src mirror
21:08 < Mike1> SMP: my iso is not with 1.5 trees it has the base and ext packages sources
21:08 < Mike1> not the 1.5 tree
21:08 * fake off
21:08 < SMP> for which ROCK version?
21:09 < Mike1> 1.5.17
21:09 < SMP> *sigh*
21:12 < esden> boys ... how do you like the logo someone posted on rock-doc-pr ?
21:17 < Mike1> huebi: 
21:17 < Mike1> [root@marte rock-src-1.5.17.private]# ./scripts/Create-CD source base 
21:17 < Mike1> ./scripts/Create-CD: source: filename argument required
21:17 < Mike1> source: usage: source filename
21:17 < Mike1> [root@marte rock-src-1.5.17.private]#        
21:17 < Mike1> thats with the latest cds script
21:17 < Mike1> s/cds/cvs
21:18 < Mike1> ??
21:26 < huebi> Mike1: ohh, must fix this...
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21:26 < rxr> hi tsa 
21:26 < tsa> moin
21:26 < tsa> tag rxr
21:27 < huebi> moggen tsa 
21:27 < tsa> huhu huebi
21:27 < [anders]> re tsa, rxr
21:27 < tsa> hi [anders]
21:27 < owl> hi tsa
21:27 < tsa> hi owl
21:28 < huebi> tach owl 
21:28 < owl> moin huebi
21:31 < esden> hi owl
21:31 < owl> *g* hi esden :)
21:32 < esden> have I already said it ... ?? I HATE GLIBC !!!
21:32 < tsa> esden: remove it..
21:32 < tsa> pkg-remove / glibc
21:32 < tsa> have fun.
21:32 < esden> I will ... but it takes time ... I have to fix a lot of problems with dietlibc
21:35 < huebi> esden: Write a new one...
21:36 < huebi> glibd hehe
21:36 * [anders] is now building 1.5.17.private again..
21:36 < esden> huebi: I write evillibc or esdenlibc or so ...
21:37 < SMP>  . o O ( glibberc )
21:37 < huebi> esden: Pitrlibc... even more evil
21:37 < esden> yes that for sure
21:37 < esden> ;-)
21:44 * huebi rummurksing on Create-CD
21:45 < tsa> hehe
21:46 < esden> ok I will go sleeping now
21:46 < esden> cu al
21:46 < Mike1> n8 esden
21:46 < Mike1> huebi: found anything?
21:47 < huebi> Mike1: NOW THE NAMING WORKS BUT:
21:47 < huebi> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     581697536 Jul  9 21:40 rock-src-base+opt-1.5.17_2002-07-08_09h20.iso
21:47 < huebi> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     581697536 Jul  9 21:41 rock-src-ext-1.5.17_2002-07-08_09h20.iso
21:47 < Mike1> wtf?
21:48 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D8E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:49 < Mike1> hi thalerim
21:49 < tsa> hi thalerim
21:49 < tsa> *gaehn*
21:49 < thalerim> re
21:50 < Mike1> huebi: what was all that?
21:50 -!- HannibalL [~steven261@62.46.6.197] has joined #rocklinux
21:51 * huebi still testing...
21:52 * SMP goes to bed
21:53 < huebi> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     581697536 Jul  9 21:50 rock-src-base+opt-1.5.17_2002-07-08_09h20.iso
21:53 < huebi> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     12517376 Jul  9 21:51 rock-src-ext-1.5.17_2002-07-08_09h20.iso
21:53 < huebi> Mike1: ./scripts/Create-CD source ext
21:53 < huebi> ./scripts/Create-CD source base
21:53 < huebi> both now work.
21:53 < SMP> huebi: can you upload your ext-archive tree?
21:53 < SMP> I don't need any src ISOs
21:53 < Mike1> SMP: not finished yet 
21:54 < huebi> SMP: jo, I do so..
21:54 < Mike1> SMP: give a bit more and i will finish 
21:54 < SMP> my {base,opt}-archive will be complete again very soon
21:54 < Mike1> huebi: where do i get the update of the script
21:54 < huebi> root@zeus:/rock-linux# du -sm /home/ftp/rock-pkg-1.5/*
21:54 < huebi> 1076    /home/ftp/rock-pkg-1.5/base-archive
21:54 < huebi> 910     /home/ftp/rock-pkg-1.5/ext-archive
21:54 < huebi> 72      /home/ftp/rock-pkg-1.5/opt-archive
21:55 < SMP> and I even kept the pre 1.5.12 and 1.5.13 sources
21:55 < tsa> huebi: du solltest den user "ftp" mal loeschen...der muellt dir ja die ganzen platten voll..
21:55 < huebi> tsa: hehe
21:56 < SMP> <0>stefanp@world[rock-1.5](502)$ du -sm *archive
21:56 < SMP> 995     base-archive
21:56 < SMP> 0       ext-archive
21:56 < SMP> 61      opt-archive
21:56 < SMP> oh well.. ;)
21:56 < huebi> SMP: I make a diff of ls -R and upload it.
21:56 < SMP> don't upload any base/opt stuff please
21:56 < huebi> * it's time to get world mirrored.
21:57 < Mike1> SMP: ext?
21:57 < SMP> and since I don't have any of ext-archive the diff is fairly trivial ;>
21:58 < huebi> SMP: yes, it is. And I copy all the new base stuff, too.
21:58 < Mike1> huebi: link to get the fixed Create-CD script please
21:58 < SMP> are you listening to me? no base/opt stuff. none at all. please
21:58 < huebi> Mike1: jo...
21:59 < SMP> Mike1: /topic
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21:59 < Mike1> SMP: got space for me to upload my ext tree?
21:59 < huebi> Mike1: http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/rock-1.5/scripts/Create-CD?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain
22:00 < huebi> SMP: Why no base+opt stuff?
22:01 < SMP> Mike1: I'm waiting for huebi to upload his first
22:01 < SMP> huebi: because I already have it all?
22:01 < Mike1> SMP: k
22:01 < SMP> at least 1.5.16+
22:01 < huebi> SMP: ahh, ok ;-))
22:02 < SMP> and I don't think I want any more < 1.5.16 sources than I already have
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22:06 < huebi> SMP: upload is running...
22:08 < SMP> ok, I've changed cvs.rocklinux.de IP
22:08 * Mike1 away
22:08 < SMP> it's now the same as {www,www.cvs,anoncvs,download,sources}.rocklinux.de
22:13 < SMP> and so this <http://cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/> works now
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22:14 < SMP> and I'm finally, really going to bed now ;-}
22:15 < huebi> SMP: sleep well, cu tomorrow ;-)
22:15 < rolla> re
22:15 < [anders]> ahem.. /me is going bed now.. cross-eyed...
22:16 < huebi> cu [anders] ;-)
22:16 < [anders]> in the morning, I'll pull CVS again, roll a patch and try and merge it..
22:16 < [anders]> huebi: do you want my private archive tonight?
22:17 < bluefire> Bye
22:18 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9522CAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving")
22:18 < huebi> [anders]: yes, please..
22:19 < [anders]> huebi: on its way, when I can connect..
22:19 < huebi> [anders]: line is free now ;-)
22:19 < [anders]> huebi: :-D
22:21 < huebi> [anders]: thank you
22:22 < [anders]> huebi: ok, archive and md5sum file there now..
22:22 < huebi> [anders]: good night ;-))
22:22 * huebi thinks about QOS
22:23 < [anders]> huebi: If you can, integrate the tar changes.. They don't break anything (I've tested them) and they will make the scripts and .conf's portable as long as there is bzip2 installed on the build host..
22:23 < [anders]> you can skip the tar-bzip2.patch, all it does is change I to j..
22:23 < huebi> [anders]: ok, I do so.
22:24 < [anders]> Look at the changes I have made, should be v. easy to see what I have done.. :)
22:24 < [anders]> not rock'et science exactly.. ;-D
22:24 -!- jonathan| [~jonathan@200.9.59.101] has joined #rocklinux
22:24 < huebi> hi jonathan| 
22:25 < [anders]> ok.. /me <- väck..
22:25 < [anders]> night night all
22:25 < huebi> [anders]: good night ;-)
22:25 < jonathan|> hi
22:33 < tsa> bbl
22:33 -!- tsa is now known as tsa|afk
22:43 < rxr> so much text for the German ROCK Linux article finished ;-)
22:43 * rxr searches for the bed now ...
22:44 < rxr> cu
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23:12 < Mike1> re
23:32 -!- ge0rg is now known as Ge0rG
23:41 -!- tsa|afk is now known as tsa
23:41 < Mike1> re tsa
23:41 < owl> re tsa
23:42 < huebi> hi tsa 
23:42 < tsa> hi Mike1, owl, huebi
23:42 < Mike1> huebi: didnt know you were awake
23:42 < Mike1> thank God you are here
23:42 < tsa> Mike1: huebi didn't know he was awake, too ;-)
23:42 < Mike1> haha
23:43 < Mike1> huebi: i my Create-CD script is so messed up :(
23:43 < huebi> Mike1: I know it since a few minutes. I'm working on it.
23:44 < Mike1> huebi: it creates the iso but when it finish the god damn iso is gone :(((((\
23:44 < huebi> Mike1: ls -la ?
23:45 < Mike1> lol
23:45 < Mike1> why the hell is it named .iso ?
23:45 < Mike1> i mean where is the rest of the stuff?
23:45 < huebi> Mike1: isn't it hidden?
23:45 < Mike1> yes
23:46 * Mike1 needs to forget about complicated stuff and use logic
23:46 < tsa> hehe
23:46 < huebi> Mike1: run ./scripts/Config and configure a build for ia32 i686 and optional packages.
23:47 * owl needs to disable brain - and disable logic :P
23:47 < huebi> then it should work.
23:47 * Mike1 necesita a aowl
23:47 < Mike1> huebi: Do you have space for me iso on ur server?
23:48 < huebi> Mike1: It's the server of SMP.
23:48 < Mike1> und he doesnt want my isos :((
23:49 < Mike1> ok i will set up a temporary place just for my friends to get the isos :)
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