--- Log opened Thu Jul 25 00:00:59 2002
--- Day changed Thu Jul 25 2002
00:12 < esden> hi all
00:12 < esden> hi Mike1 !!
00:12 < Mike1> hello esden :)
00:12 < Mike1> how are you?
00:13 < esden> I am fine
00:13 < esden> I am diving in work, and having fun ;-)
00:13 < Mike1> hehe
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00:48 < chrisime_> esden: jo
00:48 < esden> hi chrisime_ 
00:48 < esden> I am currently setting up openbsd on my router
00:52 < chrisime_> esden: des teil rockt totalk
00:52 < chrisime_> so schoen einfach zu koonfigurieren
00:52 < chrisime_> ausser dass dhclient ziemlich viel meckert
00:52 < chrisime_> liegt wohl an der config vom server (debian)
00:55 < esden> chrisime_: so einfach zu konfigurieren ?
00:56 < esden> ich habe bis jetzt es nicht so ganz gemerkt
00:56 < esden> sage mal ne RTFM oder so
00:56 < chrisime_> http://www.fmi.uni-passau.de/~grafj/openbsd/
00:56 < chrisime_> hat mir n typ gegeben
00:56 < chrisime_> der das als server so einsetzt
00:56 < chrisime_> habs aber total ohne das konfiguriert
00:58 < chrisime_> http://www.gstreamer.net/images/gst-nautilus-2.png <-- kewl
00:58 < chrisime_> kde kann langsam einpacken ;-)
00:59 < esden> wwoooot ... sieht echt geil asu
01:00 < esden> aber ich habe bis jetzt gnome2 nicht ohne probleme zum laufen gebracht
01:00 < esden> unter debian zickt es gewaltig
01:00 < chrisime_> hm
01:00 < chrisime_> habs unter gentoo geschafft
01:00 < chrisime_> unter openbsd gibts nix in /usr/ports
01:00 < esden> und wenn ich garnome benutze zickt es auch schreklich
01:00 < chrisime_> muss mal selber compilieren
01:00 < chrisime_> echt?
01:01 < esden> ja ... er braucht um irgendein gnome programm zu starten halbe ewigkeit
01:01 < chrisime_> autsch
01:01 < esden> unter garnome meine ich
01:01 < chrisime_> beim ersten start dauerts sehr lang
01:01 < esden> ich weis nicht was da kaputt ist
01:01 < chrisime_> also der start an sich
01:01 < chrisime_> brb
01:01 < esden> ja aber nicht _halbe_ stunde
01:01 < chrisime_> muss mal schnell gdm2 testen
01:01 < chrisime_> gibts endlich n debian paket
01:01 < chrisime_> esden: autsch
01:01 < chrisime_> also brb
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01:12 < chrisime> wow, cool
01:16 < esden> ???
01:16 < chrisime> esden: http://www.gnome.org/~chrisime/files/pix/gdm-Screenshot.png
01:16 < esden> kk
01:16 < chrisime> das der neue gdm
01:16 < chrisime> der is so themeable
01:16 < chrisime> rockt halt
01:16 < esden> hmm ... sieht gut aus
01:17 < chrisime> jo
01:17 < esden> wieder eine sache die im lain target aufgenommen wird
01:17 < chrisime> sunshineinabag hat au n paar themes dafuer
01:17 < esden> sunshinebag ???
01:18 < chrisime> http://www.lucidus.uklinux.net/gdm/tn_blueish-gdm.png
01:18 < chrisime> www.sunshineinabag.co.uk
01:19 * Mike1 is bored
01:19 < chrisime> yeah ;)
01:20 < chrisime> brb
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01:21 < esden> Mike1: then do something
01:21 < esden> there is enough work in the world ;-)
01:21 < Mike1> esden: i am but i still feel bored
01:22 < esden> Mike1: hmm ... not good
01:22 < Mike1> hehe i guess so
01:22 < esden> Mike1: what are you doing ?
01:22 < esden> Mike1: how are "my" photos ?
01:23 < Mike1> esden: Downloading sources for 1.5 , working on the rock guide spanish, compiling some elks stuff and replying to wemails
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01:23 < Mike1> esden: good question i havent get the time to get then developed :(
01:23 < Mike1> re chrisime
01:23 < chrisime> jo
01:23 < chrisime> wow
01:23 < chrisime> gdm rocks
01:24 < esden> Mike1: be ashamed !!! ;-)
01:24 < Mike1> esden: hehe maybe if the had had 48 hours i could have one or 2 hours free :)
01:25 < Mike1> s/had/day
01:25 < chrisime> hmpf
01:26 < chrisime> is there no mozilla-bsd version available
01:32 < esden> who needs x on bsd ... o_O
01:32 < esden> bsd is for servers ... not for playing around ;-)
01:34 < chrisime> heh
01:34 < chrisime> i know
01:34 < chrisime> just for my laptop
01:34 < chrisime> i'm using it to learn more of it
01:35 < chrisime> to get it installed as quick as possible on my server
01:35 < esden> chrisme ... it is pretty hard ... as I see now to get a router running with it
01:36 < chrisime> that's why i'm trying it on my laptop first
01:40 < fake> aaaw.
01:40 < fake> hehe.
01:40 < fake> now i like it:
01:40 < fake> http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/
01:42 < esden> hehe ... your firm logo on the first page ... am I right ?
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01:52 < aszlig> hoi
01:53 < chrisime> hmpf
01:53 < chrisime> ich brauch mal so nen 486 rechner
01:53 < chrisime> der frisst dann net so viel strom und is net so laut
01:55 < Ge0rG> und übersteht kurze spannungsschwankungen besser als ein neueres system ;)
01:59 < chrisime> mmm
01:59 < chrisime> im das gehts net
01:59 < chrisime> aber mein k6III400 is zu fett IMHO
02:03 < fake> esden: yes.
02:04 < fake> http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/CTs/winter-2001/P1010042.JPG <-- esden
02:05 < fake> http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/CTs/winter-2001/P1010061.JPG <-- esden in  heaven
02:06 < fake> http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/CTs/winter-2001/P1010032.JPG <<-- fake.
02:06 < fake> *biahaha*
02:09 < esden> hi aszlig 
02:09 < esden> hi Ge0rG 
02:09 < Ge0rG> 'lo esden
02:11 < esden> argh ... this image is terrible
02:11 < esden> I mean the first one >_<
02:11 < fake> looks like an animal on first sight ;-)
02:11 < esden> urgh ... yes >_<
02:11 < Mike1> nice pic esden *g
02:12 < esden> I think I want to kill someone
02:12 < Mike1> haha
02:12 < fake> Yes
02:12 < esden> ahh cool ... now I have bash on my naru
02:12 < fake> KILL ME!
02:12 < fake> NOW!
02:13 < esden> fake: FORGET IT !!!
02:13 < fake> :(
02:13 < fake> why not?
02:14 < fake> will i have to put up ... those... photos?
02:14 < esden> which those photos ?
02:14 < Mike1> fake: so you got more photos?
02:15 < fake> y'know... _those_ ... *points_under_his_bed+
02:15 * Mike1 ROTL
02:15 < fake> . o O ( imaginary bed, of course )
02:15 < esden> fake: do what you can not leave ...
02:16 < fake> noo. i am 3v1l, but i am not de-coffeinated-3vl.
02:16 < fake> esden: do the bus stops in IN also advertise JOLT?
02:19 < fake> anyways. i'm driving home.
02:19 < Mike1> cu fake
02:20 < fake> cya
02:20 * Mike1 leaving
02:20 < Mike1> n8 all
02:21 < th> later Mike1 
02:21 < Mike1> th BTW i'm not going to honduras so i talk to you tomorrow
02:21 < th> Mike1: ahh ok. good to know that :)
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02:22 < esden> fake: hmm ... no ...
02:23 < esden> are they advertising in bonn ?
02:45 < esden> hmm ... bsd does not like two isa ne2k cards at once ...
02:45 < esden> strange
02:49 < chrisime> esden: probs
02:49 < chrisime> siehe URL die ich dir gegeben hab
02:50 < esden> ja ... ich schaue schon rein ... ist sehr hilfreich
02:51 < chrisime> mhm
02:51 < chrisime> ich werd au noch probs mit meinen 2 PCI karten ham
02:51 < chrisime> eine is 8039
02:51 < chrisime> schmarrn
02:51 < chrisime> 8129 die andere 8139
02:51 < chrisime> C
02:57 < esden> hmm ... OpenBSD is not as secure as I thought
02:57 < chrisime> ?
02:57 < esden> there some daemons that running after the install
02:58 < esden> that could be switched off
02:58 < esden> there is rocklinux much better ...
02:58 < chrisime> naja
02:58 < chrisime> kannst ja superschnell auschalten
02:58 < chrisime> einfach auf off
02:58 < chrisime> fertig
03:00 < esden> ja schon klar ... aber wenn du das system installierst ... dann sollte alles per default aus sein ... und nicht das du dach denken musst das du es noch ausschalten musst
03:00 < esden> sonnst vergisst man es ... und naja ... cheisse
03:00 < chrisime> also, es is sicherer als suse ;-D
03:00 < esden> genauso ssh erlaubt root loginns per default ...
03:00 < esden> das ist scheisse
03:01 < esden> chrisime: ich habe gehofft das es sicherer ist als rocklinux ... aber ich werde langsam aber sicher entteuscht
03:01 < chrisime> esden: es warnt dich beim root
03:01 < esden> aber es hat auch gute sachen
03:01 < esden> wenn du nicht in der gruppe wheel bist darfst nicht su ausfuehren
03:01 < esden> finde ich super
03:02 < chrisime> eben
03:02 < esden> also im grossen und ganzen sind die jungs nicht konsequent
03:02 < chrisime> hab mich gleich in wheel rein
03:02 < chrisime> gentoo hat das auch
03:02 < esden> ja ... muss man bei rock auch einfuehren
03:02 < chrisime> bpf8
03:02 < chrisime> wassn des fuern device
03:02 < chrisime> ich brauch das fuer nmap
03:03 < esden> hmm ... no ider
03:03 < esden> ich meine no idea
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03:04 < chrisime> makdev bpf8 bringt au nix
03:04 < chrisime> da normal fuer die firewall
03:04 < chrisime> also so wie ipchains/iptables
03:04 < chrisime> hallo clifford_ 
03:08 < esden> hi clifford_ 
03:08 < esden> chrisime: hmm ... scheisse wieso will die kiste meine zweite netzwerkkarne nicht erkennen
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03:25 < esden> argh ... the bsd kernel is stupid >_<
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03:25 < esden> hmm ... but I have to go home now
03:25 < esden> cu all
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06:32 < th> hmm
06:32 < th> immernoch nicht im bett angekommen.
06:32 < th> grmpf
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08:17 < owl> hi
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09:00 < clifford> moin.
09:30 < fake> moin
09:44 < fake> fsck!
09:44 < fake> fsck fsck fsck!
09:44 < fake> jetz is mein rechner daheim aus/nicht erreichbar
10:02 < [anders]> moin
10:06 * [anders] has not had a particularly good time... kernel 2.4.19-rc3-ac3 does not work on my machine at home, so no USB joy there.. 
10:06 < [anders]> and on top of that, when installing new gdm, there has been endless pissing about trying to get it to compile.. :-/
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16:22 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: anoncvs for 1.5 now up: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5
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16:22 (Users #rocklinux)
16:22 [ [anders]  ] [ coldie  ] [ Freak] [ praenti ] [ snyke    ] 
16:22 [ aszlig    ] [ dorphell] [ Ge0rG] [ rolla   ] [ th       ] 
16:22 [ blindcoder] [ esden   ] [ h0h0 ] [ rxr_away] [ tomik_   ] 
16:22 [ clifford  ] [ fake    ] [ huebi] [ SMP     ] [ WKaibigan] 
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16:22 < esden> re hi all
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16:22 < esden> ok now it works
16:22 < fake> hm.
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16:38 * fake is emailing his former german teacher
16:39 < fake> i try to convince her that she'd not teach any Umlauts any more
16:41 < h0h0> some problem with umlauts?
16:41 < fake> http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/parties/abschluss/Image-51.JPG
16:41 < fake> me and my former german teacher *g*
16:41 < fake> . o O ( BOY were we drunk! )
16:42 < fake> h0h0: there are none.
16:42 < h0h0> what?
16:42 < fake> h0h0: it's an illusion...
16:42 * h0h0 is confused
16:43 * clifford is understanding very well ...  :-)
16:43 * h0h0 bludgons clifford
16:45 < fake> clifford: you know my ... intentions... ;-))
16:45 < fake> clifford: i fixed netpbm
16:46 < esden> hi clifford 
16:47 < clifford> hi esden.
16:48 < fake> clifford: netpbm.conf doesn't work any more.
16:48 < esden> clifford: I am playing around with OpenBSE and I gothered some neat ideas to make rocklinux more secure by default
16:49 < clifford> fake: patch?
16:49 < clifford> esden: OpenBSE ???   ;-)
16:50 < esden> clifford: yes BS_E_ ;-)
16:51 < fake> clifford: coming
16:51 < fake> clifford: btw: minicom, libxslt, doxygen and ghostscript are marked as broken
16:51 < fake> but they compile fine here
16:52 < fake> had no chance to test more - wanted to fix pango
16:53 < clifford> fake: I started a new reference build 10 minutes ago. So expect updated broken flags in two days ... :-)
16:54 < fake> ookay.
16:55 < tomik_> re
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16:56 < fake> clifford: patch sent.
16:58 < fake> clifford: did you have a look at libgd by chance?
16:58 < fake> there's a weird header problem - freetype : freetype2
16:59 < fake> xawd3 is also funny...
16:59 < fake> ( but i solved that )
16:59 * fake having a cigarette while waiting for clifford ;)
17:09 < fake> ...
17:16 * fake Umbra et Imago - Ein Kleines Maerchen
17:19 < fake> erwachet... erwachet.. erwachet aus euremschlaf..
17:28 < WKaibigan> Anybody know how to get around the following errors when compiling Eterm 0.9.1 .libs/libEterm.so: undefined reference to `XmuInternAtom'
17:28 < WKaibigan> .libs/libEterm.so: undefined reference to `_XA_CLIPBOARD'
17:30 < fake> hm... no idea
17:30 < fake> imlib is there?
17:30 < WKaibigan> Yeah I have imlib and imlib2 installed.
17:30 < fake> hm.... 
17:30 < fake> <-- no idea
17:31 < WKaibigan> I hate all these library dependency problems you get when compiling stuff.
17:32 < fake> WKaibigan: *lol*
17:33 < fake> that's like: i hate all that traffic stuff when i want to drive somewhere...
17:35 < WKaibigan> Yeah that too ;-)
17:36 < fake> == 17:33:58 =[1]=> Building base/bash [2.05b 1.7.0-DEV].
17:36 < fake> > Hunk #1 FAILED at 486.
17:36 < fake> ...
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17:37 < Mike1> Hi all
17:37 < fake> hi Mike1 !
17:37 < Mike1> fake: :)
17:38 < WKaibigan> Hi Mike1
17:43 < fake> clifford: cross.patch fails for the new bash version
17:46 < fake> as does rl-minor-version.patch...
17:55 * Mike1 rebooting brb
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18:05 * clifford is fixing bash ..
18:11 < fake> clifford: you could do me a favour and compile ncurses as last packet in Stage 1
18:12 < fake> i alays have to build-pkg it manually
18:12 < fake> because it is present in my build system bash is built against it
18:12 < fake> and then i get " error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5" when chrooting
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18:14 < clifford> fake: ncurses is using c++ ..
18:14 < blindcoder> rehi
18:14 < fake> urgh
18:14 < blindcoder> fake: there was a problem with the moving of the homedirectories: My screen couldn't open any more screens
18:15 < blindcoder> fake: getcwd(): couldn't get current working directory
18:15 < fake> blindcoder: restart screen
18:16 < blindcoder> yes, i already did that, but I like whining, as you know :)
18:17 < fake> blindcoder: no idea?
18:17 < fake> clifford: doesn't bash have a --no-ncurses something?
18:21 < clifford> fake: I still don't understand how it is possible that bash is built with curses on your side.
18:21 < clifford> .. it should be built using termcap ..
18:22 < blindcoder> okay, I'm gone 
18:22 < blindcoder> baba
18:36 < fake> clifford: hm. i have had this problem always iirc
18:39 < clifford> fake: hmm.... 
18:39 < fake> clifford: just calling Build-Pkg is easier than digging into it.
18:41 < fake> checking which library has the termcap functions... using libtermcap
18:41 < fake> hm :-/
18:41 < fake> ncurses is not even mentioned in bash's logfile
18:42 < clifford> see!
18:53 < fake> hm?
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18:53 < fake> hi owl
18:53 < owl> hi
18:54 < th> hi owl
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18:55 < Mike1> re
18:56 < owl> hi Mike1
18:56 < Mike1> hello owl :)
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19:01 < Mike1> huebi: here?
19:02 < Mike1> or even [anders]?
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19:11 < Mike1> good day clifford
19:11 < owl> hi clifford
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19:19 < Mike1> hi there oversize
19:19 < oversize> hi 8)
19:19 < oversize> i think now i m ready to install ;)
19:19 < owl> hi oversize
19:19 < oversize> hi
19:20 < Mike1> oversize: excellent :)
19:20 < Mike1> oversize: BTW what ROCK version are you working with? 1.5.17?
19:21 < clifford> Hi Mike1, hi owl, hi oversize.
19:21 < clifford> fake: applied your patch.
19:22 < oversize> 1.5.15
19:22 < clifford> also: in the next snap bash will be built in stage 1 even without termcap.
19:22 < fake> clifford: thanks.
19:22 < fake> clifford: have you encountered the xaw3d problem yet?
19:23 < clifford> no: "=[3]=> Building base/linux" so far
19:23 < Mike1> oversize: i am currently building rock-1.5.17, with some modifications on the source to make it build for my needs, would you like an iso of it when i finish?
19:24 < fake> clifford: xaw3d is setting CC to "C" somehow.
19:24 < fake> (note: '"C"'
19:24 < fake> )
19:24 < clifford> aha. funny.
19:25 < oversize> ehm yes... 8) how easy/though is an update? is it even possible? should i wait for your iso ?
19:25 * Mike1 realized that the problems that he was havving with some gnome packages were solved just by modifying the priority order of some packages :)
19:26 < oversize> so i should .....
19:28 < oversize> well i will install anyway 1.5.15 just to have it done for one time... and than do it again on 1.5.17 8)
19:28 < Mike1> oversize: update, mmm depends, i think i will have my iso tonight or tomorrow mourning (afternoon your time) i only offered to you, if you want to use, but you can do well with the one you already have, its up to you
19:29 < Mike1> oversize: of course 1.5.17 has more updated packages and has some significative changes, eg we included kde on the base system
19:30 < fake> clifford: as i am lame i don't know why
19:30 < oversize> sure sure .... thx well it will be available public than soon right ?
19:31 < fake> ( or how )
19:31 < clifford> fake: I need to rebuild gcc on the local system first. As soon as this is finished I will have a look at xaw3d.
19:31 < Mike1> oversize: sure i will upload an iso soon, but as i said before i made some changes on the code as it is my Dev source, i will for sure have it online tomorrow
19:31 < fake> clifford: it is fixed if you add CC=$CC manually behind
19:31 < fake> $MAKE $makeopts
19:31 < fake> in xaw3d.conf
19:32 < fake> err
19:32 < fake> i mean CC=gcc-2
19:32 < fake> for example.
19:32 < fake> in debug.buildenv, however, $CC is gcc-2.
19:32 < clifford> fake: is realy $CC set to the wrong value or is "CC=.." set somewhere in the makefiles?
19:33 < clifford> ok - you anwered already the question.
19:33 < oversize> Mike1: nice... 8)
19:33 < clifford> so adding CC="$CC" to the list of make options should solve it.
19:33 < Mike1> btw could you give me the link to your page again i couldnt get to see it yesterday
19:33 < clifford> can you try that and send my a patch?
19:33 < fake> clifford: in $makeopts, it _IS_ there
19:34 < oversize> me ?
19:34 < Mike1> oversize: yup
19:34 < oversize> www.bonadt..de
19:34 < oversize> uups
19:34 < Mike1> -.
19:34 < Mike1> :)
19:34 < fake> then debug says that CC=\"\$CC\"
19:34 < oversize> its not that big 8)
19:34 < clifford> hmm... oups. pls. wait a minute ..
19:35 < fake> not then, i mean but.
19:35 < oversize> hm seem down right now
19:35 < oversize> oh no
19:36 < clifford> fake: just try >> eval "$MAKE $makeopt" ; eval "$MAKE install" << in xaw3d.conf.
19:36 < Mike1> :((
19:36 < fake> clifford: i started a new build at 15:30. i note it down.
19:37 < clifford> fake: I'm pretty sure that this is the problem. Since a month or so all calls including stuff like $MAKE, $makeopt, $confopt and so on should use the eval command ..
19:37 < Mike1> oversize: where do you host your site?
19:38 < fake> clifford: i see. i already wondered... ;-)
19:38 < clifford> I made a change in Build-Pkg yesterday which depends on the use of 'eval' for $makeopt.
19:38 < Mike1> have you guys seen huebi lately?
19:38 < fake> Mike1: yes
19:38 < fake> at about 14:00 IIRC
19:39 < fake> he showed me Mathildas Nice Bull
19:39 < esden> ok ... the alias file of bingo should be clean now ...
19:39 * clifford is grepping for other problems like this one ...
19:39 < Mike1> fake: ah see why she has been away, :)
19:39 < esden> re hi all ... so by the way
19:39 < fake> *lol*
19:39 < fake> re esden 
19:39 < Mike1> hi esden :)
19:40 < oversize> Mike1: dont know... its not my site, the one from my chef
19:41 < Mike1> oversize: what do you mean by 'chef'?
19:41 < fake> Mike1: boss
19:41 < fake> oversize: chef = koch ;-)
19:41 < Mike1> fake: ah
19:42 < Mike1> oversize: s/chef/chief :)
19:42 < oversize> boss ;)
19:42 < oversize> chef s german
19:42 < oversize> *g
19:42 < Mike1> ah i see :)
19:42 < owl> moin esden
19:42 * Mike1 turns on english-german mode
19:42 < esden> hi owl 
19:42 < oversize> thoigth would be the same in englisch
19:43 < oversize> hehe
19:43 < oversize> -i
19:52 < oversize> is it possible to load another keyset during installation (i.e. de-latin1) ?
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20:00 < kob> hi
20:02 < Mike1> oversize: i think no
20:17 * owl is getting espresso again. brb.
20:19 < esden> oversize: not yet
20:19 < oversize> 8)
20:19 < esden> oversize: I am also missing the dvorak keyset ;-)
20:20 < oversize> but its possible to change when having installed !?
20:21 < Mike1> oversize: yes its possible
20:34 < Mike1> In file included from gnome-vfs-mime-private.h:26,
20:34 < Mike1>                  from gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:32:
20:34 < Mike1> ../libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-mime-monitor.h:28: gtk/gtkobject.h: No such file or directory
20:35 < Mike1> which package contains gtkobject.h??
20:37 < fake> gtk+ ?
20:39 < Mike1> some how gtk+ has been already build but i get this error :(
20:39 < fake> Mike1: is'nt the file there?
20:39 < fake> Mike1: you could grep through the flist files for it
20:41 < Mike1> fake: 
20:41 < Mike1> root@alicia:/mnt/disk/rock-1.5.17-Mike/dist# find -name gtkobject.h
20:41 < Mike1> ./usr/include/gtk-1.2/gtk/gtkobject.h
20:41 < Mike1> root@alicia:/mnt/disk/rock-1.5.17-Mike/dist# 
20:42 < Mike1> its right there damn i think i will have to do some hands works
20:42 < fake> hm.
20:42 < fake> check the -I's for /usr/include/gtk-1.2
20:45 < Mike1> fake: ?
20:45 < fake> -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2
20:45 < fake> then gtk/gtkobject.h should work
20:48 -!- clifford is now known as clifford_away
20:54 -!- Ge0rG is now known as ge0rg
20:57 < [anders]> meow...
20:57 < fake> *wuff*
20:57 < Mike1> [anders]: !!
20:57 < Mike1> [anders]: hi
20:57 < [anders]> yo dudes.. how's it hanging..?
20:58 < Mike1> [anders]: good just geeting some trouble with gnome-vfs wanna help
20:59 < Mike1> ?
20:59 < esden> woot woot ...
20:59 < [anders]> humma.. --with-gtk=/usr ?
20:59 < [anders]> :)
20:59 < Mike1> [anders]: so you were there already :)
20:59 < esden> ahh is it a good feeling to downloading things without having bad feeling about it ;-)
20:59 * fake is hungry
21:00 < [anders]> Mike1: I didn't have a problem with that actually.. But there might be a possibility you might have to specify where the gtk stuff was installed..
21:00 < Mike1> yes that exactly my prblem thanks [anders]
21:01 * oversize forgot his piyya in the oven 8(
21:01 < oversize> oh no zz *g
21:01 < esden> fake: then get something to eat
21:01 < fake> esden: wa wa. i do.
21:02 < esden> good fake ... nice fake ;-)
21:02 < [anders]> Mike1: an alternative is that you use CPPFLAGS to define extra -I arguments for the ./configure script..
21:02 < [anders]> like: CPPFLAGS='-I/usr/include/gtk-1.2' ./configure
21:03 < fake> oversize: i forgot my pizza in the store.
21:03 < Mike1> [anders]: yes thats better i will try
21:04 < [anders]> Mike1: not all makefiles use CPPFLAGS, you might have to use CFLAGS instead..
21:05 < Mike1> i will try with CPPFLAGS first
21:05 < [anders]> okidoki.. :)
21:05 < Mike1> else i go for CFLAGS
21:05 < fake> or export CC=$(CC) -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 
21:05 < fake> *evil_grin*
21:06 < [anders]> fake: no, that is downright nasty.. :)
21:06 < Mike1> hehe
21:07 < [anders]> the best thing to do is check ./configure --help in gnome-vfs and see if there is a --with-gtk option there..
21:08 * fake is getting food
21:09 < Mike1> fake: enjoy it!
21:09 * Mike1 restarting build
21:18 < esden> god is the testsuite of bsd big !
21:19 < fake> aw...
21:19 < fake> food...
21:20 < fake> this is the first time i get something to eat since friday...
21:21 < Mike1> fake: what are you eating?
21:21 * Mike1 needs to go for lunch soon
21:21 < fake> Mike1: baked noodles with chicken (chinese)
21:22 < Mike1> sounds yummy enjoy it
21:22 * fake . o O ( technically it's my bank's food )
21:22 < fake> Mike1: i do!
21:23 < esden> fake: enjoy your food
21:24 * [anders] is now downloading Evolution... 
21:25 < [anders]> Mike1: any joy with your gnome-vfs build ?
21:26 < Mike1> just broke again i am going to look at the err file mom
21:26 * owl subway to sally - traum vom tod
21:28 * [anders] has now downloaded Evolution.. Building will ensue shortly.... ;-)
21:28 * Mike1 looking forward to have evolution too
21:28 * fake sticks with mutt
21:28 -!- owl is now known as NULL
21:29 -!- NULL is now known as _NULL
21:29 < [anders]> Mike1: Evolution is not gnome2 yet.. which is a little irritating, but not surprising..
21:29 < th> owl?
21:29 < WKaibigan> Evolution is nice once you get it to compile :-)
21:29 < [anders]> fake: I use mutt as well.. updated to 1.4i today..
21:29 < fake> [anders] oh! *looks*
21:29 < _NULL> th: net. nada. niente. nix.
21:29 < fake> niet...
21:29 * _NULL megaherz - schizophren
21:31 * [anders] runs ./configure in evolution-1.0.8 and prays..
21:32 < Mike1> haha
21:33 < [anders]> shite! I need db3 installed.. feck and arse!!
21:33 * [anders] goes off to find db3..
21:33 < WKaibigan> It has to be a certain version of db3 as well. 
21:33 < [anders]> checking db3 header version... configure: error: Found db.h is not version 3.1.17
21:33 < Mike1> [anders]: it finally fscking worked !! :))
21:34 < [anders]> Mike1: congrats. :)
21:34 < Mike1> oh wait
21:34 < Mike1> no it didnt work :((
21:34 < [anders]> right, which package is db3 ? i.e. where do I get it and so on and so forth..
21:39 < fake> *BUUUURP*
21:39 < fake> awwww..... that was _yummy_ !
21:39 < Mike1> pleasant food huh :)
21:41 < WKaibigan> I can send you the db3 package if you want anders.
21:41 < [anders]> WKaibigan: do you have the actual tar.gz ? :)
21:41 < WKaibigan> Yeah
21:42 < [anders]> WKaibigan: that'd be great if you could.. :) 
21:42 < WKaibigan> Which way do you want it, DCC or mail?
21:42 * [anders] not sure if dcc works..
21:42 < [anders]> e-mail I am sure will work.. anders.karlsson@meansolutions.com
21:43 < WKaibigan> Sending now by email.
21:44 < th> huebi: ping
21:44 < WKaibigan> Just under two megs in size.
21:45 < fake> arp -d
21:45 < fake> pong
21:45 < fake> ;-)
21:45 < th> fscking arp poisener
21:45 < [anders]> WKaibigan: muchos gracias amigo.. :)
21:46 < th> can i use huebi's fels to build a kernel for the krups?
21:46 < WKaibigan> No problem. Went through the process of compiling Evolution the other day so have what is needed.
21:46 < th> well it's sparc64
21:47 < Mike1> hi th
21:48 < th> hi Mike1 
21:48 < fake> th: yes
21:48 < fake> th: sparc32 bash
21:48 < th> fake: anything special to do?
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21:49 < fake> th: run the shell in sparc32 explicitly, 
21:49 < fake> but that's covered in the JS-HowTo
21:49 < th> fake: ok so gimme that url please
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21:49 < fake> th: linuxdoc.org?
21:50 < fake> moment
21:51 < fake> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/JavaStation-HOWTO/
21:55 < th> you should perform a sparc32 bash first to switch to 32-bit mode
21:55 < th> hmmm
21:55 < th> how do i perform a sparc32 bash?
21:55 < fake> 'sparc32 bash' ?
21:55 < fake> <return>
21:55 < th> bash: sparc32: command not found
21:55 < fake> ;-)
21:56 < fake> th: hm. sparc<tab> ?
21:56 < th> sparc64-linux-gcc 
21:56 < fake> hm...
21:57 * fake is using a cross-compiler now
21:57 * Mike1 wonders if nothing was looking for something
21:57 < fake> and i only have a sparc32 here
21:58 < [anders]> Mike1: what was it that failed in the gnome-vfs building?
21:59 < Mike1> [anders]: In file included from gnome-vfs-mime-private.h:26,
21:59 < Mike1>                  from gnome-vfs-application-registry.c:32:
21:59 < Mike1> ../libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-mime-monitor.h:28: gtk/gtkobject.h: No such file or directory
21:59 < Mike1> [anders]: perhaps that braking while running make not 'sh configure'
21:59 < th> fake: so i can't compile a kernel on fels for my krups :-/
22:00 < fake> th: give it a try?
22:00 < fake> it costs you ... 15 m?
22:00 < Mike1> damn gnome-vfs is starting to get on my nerves
22:00 < huebi> th: make ARCH=sparc manuconfig 
22:00 < huebi> th: make ARCH=sparc menuconfig 
22:00 < huebi> th: make ARCH=sparc dep vmlinux
22:00 < Mike1> huebi: hi :)
22:00 < th> hi huebi 
22:01 < huebi> moin alltogether ;-)
22:01 < Mike1> [anders]: any ideas?
22:04 < Mike1> huebi: did you had any trouble building gnome-vfs?
22:04 < huebi> Mike1: not at all
22:05 < Mike1> :((
22:06 < Mike1> ok gnome-vfs pissed me off, i'm out of here
22:06 < Mike1> see you guys tomorrow
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22:11 < th> strange... native build of krups kernel always fails for me
22:12 < fake> th: did you apply the jsflash -devfs patch?
22:12 < th> fake: no. why should i?
22:13 < th> fake: my flash is outside
22:13 < fake> oh.
22:13 < fake> nevermind.
22:13 < fake> what goes wrong?
22:14 < th> rtc.c:82: `PCI_IRQ_NONE' undeclared here (not in a function)
22:14 < th> rtc.c: In function `rtc_init':
22:14 < th> rtc.c:703: `PCI_IRQ_NONE' undeclared (first use in this function)
22:14 < th> rtc.c:703: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
22:14 < th> rtc.c:703: for each function it appears in.)
22:14 < th> make[3]: *** [rtc.o] Error 1
22:14 < th> ...
22:14 < th> disabled SYSRQ now
22:14 < huebi> th disable rtc
22:14 < th> rtc
22:14 < th> oh
22:14 < th> ok
22:14 < fake> th:
22:14 < fake> no no no
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22:15 < th> CONFIG_SUN_MOSTEK_RTC=y
22:15 < fake> th: in the header #include <asm/pci.h> or something
22:15 < th> CONFIG_RTC=y
22:15 < fake> th: that's actually in there!
22:15 < fake> but it's only enabled for __sparc_v9
22:15 < fake> just move it out
22:15 < fake> in rtc.c, not in the header. *douh*.
22:16 < th> disabled rtc for now
22:16 < th> hat mal jemand ne funktionierende .config?
22:17 < fake> th: du musst nur SMP's kernel anschauen
22:17 < fake> der liegt auch irgendwo auf fels
22:17 < huebi> oder rock
22:17 < th> den hab ich ja auch
22:17 < th> ok
22:17 < th> versuch ich mal die config
22:17 < fake> th: da sind die patches drin!
22:17 < fake> himmelhergott...
22:18 < th> hmm?
22:18 < fake> th: du _musst_ rtc.c patchen
22:18 < th> ahh
22:18 < th> hmm
22:18 < th> ok
22:18 < fake> das is 1 (in worten: eine) zeile
22:19 < th> okok
22:19 < fake> ;-)
22:19 < huebi> fake: Was muss da gemacht werden?
22:19 < th> ok. welche rtc.c??
22:19 < fake> huebi: du musst den pci-header in rtc.c includen
22:19 < th> ./drivers/char/rtc.c
22:19 < th> ./drivers/sbus/char/rtc.c
22:19 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B30A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:20 < tsa> hi all.
22:20 < huebi> moin tsa
22:20 < _NULL> hi tsa
22:20 < tsa> hi huebi
22:20 < tsa> hi _NULL
22:20 < fake> th: the sbus one
22:21 < fake> hi tsa.
22:21 < tsa> hi fake
22:25 < th> i always do a menuconfig, overwrite .config and menuconfig again... is there a faster way for just using another .config?
22:25 < fake> th: make ARCH=sparc oldconfig
22:25 < tsa> Frauen sind total unbestechlich: Manche nehmen nicht einmal Vernunft an. 
22:26 < tsa> hm..
22:26 < fake> *PRUUUUST*
22:26 < oversize> 8)
22:26 < oversize> oder schucksal
22:26 < oversize> uups -u +i
22:27 < _NULL> maenner sind unmoeglich. i will replace them with a very small shell script. u can understand shell scripts, but you will never understand men.
22:27 < tsa> Warum können Frauen nicht boxen?
22:27 < tsa> Weil Sie keine Rechte haben 
22:27 < tsa> *G*
22:28 < oversize> kommen jetzt die "cheauvies" an den start ? 8)
22:28 * _NULL koepft tsa mal wieder
22:28 < tsa> aua.
22:29 < _NULL> oversize - gibt es sonst noch maenner? imho doch ned. *sigh*
22:29 < oversize> ?
22:29 < _NULL> oversize: versuche es erst gar nicht zu verstehen. du wirst immer daran scheitern.
22:29 < tsa> hehe
22:29 < tsa> Der liebe Gott erschuf zuerst den Mann. Dann erschuf er die Frau. Als er sah was er angerichtet hatte, sorgte er für Tabak und den Alkohol.
22:29 < oversize> mkay
22:30 < _NULL> damit sich die frauen die ge´hirnzellen ersaufen damit sie die maenner besser ertragen
22:30 < oversize> hattet ihr schon mal ne beziehung ?
22:30 * th wuenscht sich vim auf fels.
22:31 < oversize> *g
22:31 < tsa> oversize: sicher, wieso?
22:31 < fake> miteinander?
22:31 < oversize> witzig... ich mein nicht generell sonder euch beide ...
22:31 < fake> *g*
22:32 < _NULL> fake: *colaaufmonitorprustvorentsetzen*
22:32 < _NULL> oversize: nein. 
22:32 < tsa> fake: ich wuerde dir doch niemals fremdgehen *schmatzergeb*
22:32 < fake> tsa: *knuddel*
22:32 < fake> have you hugged your geek lately?
22:32 < _NULL> *lol*
22:33 < tsa> hehe
22:33 < tsa> .oO( hinterlistige gruppenknuddelattacke ;)
22:34 < fake> es war gruppenzwang!
22:35 < tsa> auf jeden fall..
22:35 < oversize> alle wolten es
22:35 < fake> natuerlich, sonst gaebs haue.
22:35 < oversize> am end mit der peitsche ?
22:36 < fake> ne. soll doch ne bestrafung sein.
22:36 < _NULL> oversize: nein, mit einem notebook. 
22:36 < fake> keine belohnung
22:36 < _NULL> s,einem,meinem,
22:36 < tsa> gericom?
22:36 < _NULL> fake: belohnung? wo denn?
22:36 < fake> http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/parties/abschluss/Image-59.JPG
22:37 < fake> ( the little sister of my best friend *g* )
22:37 < tsa> hm..
22:37 < _NULL> tsa: klar gericom
22:38 < tsa> fake: irgendwer bei den bildern dabei, den man kennt?
22:38 < _NULL> tsa: schrott (gericom) zu schrott (mir/mich/ich/...)
22:38 < fake> tsa: ja, ich netcrow und... aeh... daswars ;-)
22:40 < tsa> fake: /me sieht lauter bekifft aussehende leute..
22:40 < fake> tsa: das kann kein zufall sein.
22:40 < fake> esden: http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/parties/kawaii_party/104-0443_IMG.JPG
22:40 < fake> *g*
22:40 < fake> ALIEN-ESDEN
22:41 < fake> http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/parties/kawaii_party/104-0465_IMG.JPG
22:41 < fake> blindcoder
22:41 < fake> http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/parties/kawaii_party/104-0458_IMG.JPG
22:41 < fake> me, my ex-gf, my best friend and his now-gf XD
22:42 < fake> http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/parties/kawaii_party/105-0515_IMG.JPG
22:42 < tsa> hehe
22:42 < fake> owl
22:42 < fake> ( not 
22:42 < fake> )
22:42 < _NULL> fake? was?
22:42 < fake> scherz.
22:42 < _NULL> ist auch gesuender fuer dich. sonst...
22:43 < fake> sonst?
22:43 < fake> involviert "sonst" kperperliche schmerzen?
22:43 < _NULL> *mitspringerstiefelaufmondtret*
22:43 < th> _NULL: sag lieber nein
22:43 < fake> mond?
22:43 < _NULL> ja.
22:43 < fake> hm.... trittst aber hoch
22:44 < _NULL> jo. klar doch. mars waere auch noch eine geeignete destination. *cyn*
22:44 < fake> mars is besser.
22:45 < fake> da is der aufschlag haerter
22:45 < _NULL> genau. 
22:46 * fake macht kaffee. wer will?
22:46 < _NULL> hier!
22:46 < th> fake: also das hinzufuegen von pci.h reicht nicht
22:46 < fake> th: fuer rtc?
22:46 < th> rtc.c:82: `PCI_IRQ_NONE' undeclared here (not in a function)
22:46 < th> rtc.c: In function `rtc_init':
22:46 < th> rtc.c:703: `PCI_IRQ_NONE' undeclared (first use in this function)
22:46 < th> rtc.c:703: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
22:46 < th> rtc.c:703: for each function it appears in.)
22:46 < th> make[3]: *** [rtc.o] Error 1
22:46 < th> make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/th/linux/drivers/char'
22:46 < fake> oh.
22:46 < fake> wohl doch in char/rtc >_<
22:47 < th> #ifdef __sparc__
22:47 < th> #include <asm/ebus.h>
22:47 < th> #ifdef __sparc_v9__
22:47 < th> #include <asm/isa.h>
22:47 < th> #endif
22:47 < th> oder was soll ich da tun?
22:49 < tsa> insert a "#define broken"
22:49 < tsa> ;)
22:50 < fake> eeeh.. ebsu!
22:50 < fake> ebus
22:50 < fake> hm.
22:50 < fake> passt eigentlich
22:50 < fake> schreib mal ueber ebus
22:50 < fake> #include <asm/pci.h>
22:51 < fake> ( welche kernelversion is das ? )
22:52 * fake Ooomph - Das weisse Licht
22:52 < fake> -o
22:52 * tsa knipst mal den schalter aus.
22:52 < th> fake: 2.4.18
22:52 < huebi> 2.4.18-rc4
22:53 < fake> tsa: huh?
22:53 < tsa> oh, huebi lebt ja auch noch ;)
22:53 < th> hmm?
22:53 < tsa> fake: schalter aus, nu is nix mehr mit weissem licht.
22:53 < fake> tsa: :P
22:53 < fake> das hab ich von dir
22:53 < tsa> ich weiss.
22:53 < th> huebi: nein kein rc4
22:54 < fake> du schwarz
22:54 < fake> th: sollte gehen...
22:54 < fake> mit pci.h
22:54 < tsa> *anguck*
22:54 < tsa> tatsache, fake hat recht.
22:54 < th> fake: und drivers/sbus/char/rtc.c kann ich wieder um pci.h erleichtern?
22:55 < fake> th: ... err... wahrscheinlich ... ahahaha
22:56 < th> fake: irgendwo war doch ebus_chain doch nur beschraenkt definiert, oder?
22:57 < fake> th: aha?
22:57 < th> fake: ich dachte du haettest sowas mal gesagt
22:57 < fake> eh oeh das war bi audio
22:57 < fake> bei
22:57 < fake> iirc
22:59 < fake> th: hab ich aber noch nix gemacht
22:59 < fake> lass audio einfach wech
22:59 < th> gnaa
22:59 < th> ich mach das gerade damit ich audio hab ;)
23:00 < fake> th: enjoy. das wollte ich nach iga machen. ( .. schreiben. )
23:07 < th> wie installier ich die module in ein anderes verzeichnis als /lib/modules?
23:07 < th> ich wuerde ungern die module auf fels ruinieren ;)
23:07 < fake> ehm oeh aeh keine ahnung
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23:09 < fake> hi chrisime 
23:09 < chrisime> jo
23:09 < esden> hi chrisime 
23:09 < _NULL> moin chrisime
23:10 < chrisime> ich muss den scheiss laptop doch einschicken
23:10 < chrisime> der tft flimmert doch
23:10 < chrisime> das nun zum dritten mal, hintereinander!
23:10 * -> esden compiling bsd kernel ... *wait* *wait* *wait*
23:10 < _NULL> schoen. welchen hast du denn? gericom?
23:10 < chrisime> compaq
23:10 < chrisime> die ham den tft ausgetauscht
23:10 < chrisime> keine ahnung warum
23:10 < _NULL> hmm... 
23:10 < chrisime> esden: kernel bei openbsd
23:10 < chrisime> wie des
23:10 < _NULL> solange es dich nichts kostet
23:10 < chrisime> kostet mich au nix
23:10 < chrisime> ausser nerven
23:11 < esden> chrisme ... ja weil der falsche parameter fuer meine netzwerkkarten enthalten hat ...
23:11 < chrisime> ich werd den morgen zulabern
23:11 < _NULL> hehe ;) es ist ein luxus noch nerven zu haben. also: was soll's.
23:11 < chrisime> den ich vor 2 wochen dran hatte hoerte sich schon so gelangweilt an. musste noch mal anrufen, weil das teil net abgeholt wurde, diese penner
23:12 < esden> hmm ... ich hoffe das der bis morgen fertig ist mit dem compilieren ...
23:12 < chrisime> esden: wie geht das, kernel compileren
23:12 < esden> du musst vom ftp/cd die src.tar.gz und die scrsys.tar.gz in /usr/src entpacken
23:12 < chrisime> twm rockt! hab schon lange nicht mehr damit gearbeitet (arbeiten muessen) ;-)
23:13 < chrisime> erm
23:13 < chrisime> mal suchen
23:13 * chrisime mounts
23:13 < chrisime> erm
23:13 < chrisime> wie mounted man unter bsd
23:13 < chrisime> ;-)
23:13 < esden> dann die datei /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/config/GENERIC editieren
23:13 < chrisime> aja, das ne krankheit, kannte das doch noch von freebsd
23:13 < esden> dann config GENERIC ausfuehren
23:14 < chrisime> ich muss erstma die cd mounten
23:14 < chrisime> und null plan!
23:14 < chrisime> wie issn des dev vom lw
23:14 < esden> dann in /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC wechseln ... und make depand
23:14 < esden> und make ausfuehren
23:14 < chrisime> esden: hallo!!
23:14 < esden> mount cd0 oder so ...
23:15 < chrisime>  /dev/cd0 oder so 
23:15 < chrisime> aja
23:15 < chrisime>  /dev/cd0a isses
23:16 < fake> . o O ( ja, auch cds kann man partitionieren )
23:16 < chrisime> bsd ist krank :P
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23:19 < _NULL> chrisime: warum sollte *BSD krank sein?
23:19 < chrisime> dieses ldconfig is au komisch
23:19 < chrisime> muss man nix in ne datei eintragen sondern einfach den pfad dahinter angeben
23:19 < chrisime> aber ich hab die befuerchtung dass ich damit was kaputt gmacht hab
23:20 < chrisime> _NULL: bin zu sehr linuxabhaengig
23:20 < _NULL> hmm...
23:20 < chrisime> und BSD ist mal wieder neu fuer mich, wie vor 2 jahren schon
23:20 < chrisime> da hatte ich freebsd 3.4 und 3.5
23:20 < chrisime> aber freebsd mag ich irgendwie nicht
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23:35 < fake> BUUUH!
23:36 < _NULL> fake? was?
23:36 < fake> nix. wollte nur mal ein paar leute wachrruetteln.
23:37 < fake> is ja schlimmer als beim scharping hier.
23:37 < _NULL> *lol* 
23:37 < chrisime> laaaaangsamm
23:37 < chrisime> gaaaaaanz laaaaaaaaangsaaaaaam
23:37 < _NULL> das koffein wird alle... daran wird's wohl liegen... :-/
23:37 * chrisime braucht keine drogen :P
23:37 < _NULL> wuah! 
23:38 < chrisime> koffein is einbildung
23:38 < fake> einbildung is auch ne bildung
23:38 < chrisime> wennsd meinst
23:38 * _NULL kann nicht ohne ihre drogen leben
23:38 < fake> chrisime: ne glaub ich nich. spruch.
23:38 < fake> kaffee is einfach lecker.
23:38 < chrisime> ok
23:38 < chrisime> wenn du meinst
23:39 < chrisime> lebst halt kuerzer :P
23:39 < fake> hehe, gut das ;)
23:39 < _NULL> chrisime: was macht das?
23:39 < chrisime> kaffee geht toal aufm kreislauf
23:39 < chrisime> total
23:39 < _NULL> chrisime: leben gefaehrdet die gesundheit
23:39 < fake> hm... rauchen auch
23:39 < chrisime> jupp
23:39 < fake> und ich mach's trotzdem
23:39 < _NULL> hmm... 
23:39 < fake> wenn ich wirklich irgendwann endlich mal sterbe kann ich wenigstens sagen:
23:40 < chrisime> ich rauch und sauf nicht (zweites nimmer)
23:40 < fake> "Ich hab wenigstens graucht!" XD
23:40 < _NULL> ich arbeit immer noch. trotz fieber und zombie-feeling. pfeif drauf. 
23:40 < chrisime> der letzte rausch liegt schon 3 monate zurueck
23:40 < chrisime> ohgott
23:41 < chrisime> zu schulzeiten hab ich solch eine zeitspanne nicht geschafft
23:41 < _NULL> ich rauche nicht, ich drinke nicht - ich nehme tabletten.
23:41 < chrisime> _NULL: also, du gibts dir die absolute kante ;)
23:41 < _NULL> nope. ich brauche das zeug - weil ich sonst in der arbeit sitze und einpenne!
23:42 < chrisime> was das fuer ein 'leiden' ?
23:42 < chrisime> es gibt hyperaktive
23:42 < _NULL> haeh? wie was wo?
23:42 < chrisime> und du bist dann das gegenteil?
23:42 < _NULL> nein. nur uebermuedet. dauer-uebermuedet
23:43 < chrisime> ist das ein prognostizierte krankheit oder wie auch immer bei dir?
23:43 < chrisime> s/ein/eine
23:43 < _NULL> *lol* ja. die ich-habe-besseres-zu-tun-als-im-bett-zu-liegen-krankheit. schon mal was von gehoert?
23:44 < chrisime> *nixkapier*
23:44 < _NULL> egal
23:44 < chrisime> was das fuer ne verarschungs tour
23:44 < chrisime> ?
23:44 < _NULL> nein. sorry, bin mies drauf.
23:44 < chrisime> ascho
23:44 < chrisime> dann geh ausm haus
23:44 < chrisime> das beste
23:44 < _NULL> was denn machen?
23:45 < chrisime> besser als rumhocken
23:45 < chrisime> _NULL: wo hin gehen
23:45 < chrisime> also ich mach das normal wenns kacke is
23:45 < chrisime> wirkt
23:45 < _NULL> vielleicht ein paar gehirntoten, oder goldloeffelfressern begegnen? oder alleine ins kino? danke, nein. ich verzichte
23:45 < chrisime> oder geh pennen
23:45 < _NULL> penne. kann ich nicht
23:45 < _NULL> s,penne,pennen,
23:45 < chrisime> _NULL: ruf an spezl halt an
23:45 < chrisime> s/spezl/freund
23:45 < chrisime> sorry
23:46 < fake> spezl? das is baiuvarisch ?!
23:46 < chrisime> hmm
23:46 < chrisime> joa
23:46 < fake> mein bruder!
23:46 < _NULL> freund? *such*
23:46 < chrisime> fake: haeh?
23:46 * fake <- ein bayer in NRW
23:46 < fake> ploetzlich magst du alle bayern XD
23:46 < chrisime> _NULL: dann darfst halt net immer daheim rumhocken, aber ich will jetzt keine predigt halten
23:47 < chrisime> fake: oh du arme sau. ich waere da suicidgefaehrdet
23:47 < _NULL> chrisime: siehe oben. never, never, never leave the house, if you don't wanna get depressed.
23:47 < chrisime> alles oberhalb der donau is fuer mich ausland
23:47 < fake> chrisime: *schieflaechel* nicht nur du. aber bald hab ichs hinter mir.
23:47 < chrisime> _NULL: seltsame einstellung , aber ok
23:47 < chrisime> fake: was machste in dem drecksteil von D dann
23:48 < _NULL> chrisime: aliens werden verachtet, noch nicht gewusst. aber egal.
23:48 < fake> chrisime: arbeitne
23:48 < chrisime> _NULL: zieh dir musik nei, evtl. hilft des
23:49 < chrisime> fake: in BY nix gfunden?
23:49 < _NULL> jo. ich hoere 24-[zeitinderichschlafe]musik
23:49 < fake> chrisime: sah es als "herausforderung"
23:49 < fake> EEEK. fehler.
23:49 * fake wird nirgendwo mehr arbeiten wo es kein Gutmann gibt
23:49 < chrisime> eeek, seltsam
23:49 < chrisime> wo was
23:49 < chrisime> _NULL: huh?
23:49 < esden> argh .. this kernel needs an eternity to compile >_<
23:50 < _NULL> fake: gutmann? wtf ist das denn?
23:50 < chrisime> hier laufen vielleicht depressive typen rum
23:50 < fake> GR34T B33R!
23:50 < chrisime> esden: was?
23:50 < chrisime> ascho
23:50 * _NULL ist kein typ *argh*
23:50 < fake> typ(w)
23:50 * chrisime mag fast ka anderes bier als des von BY
23:50 < fake> chrisime: Gutmann kennst aber?
23:50 < chrisime> na
23:51 < esden> chrisime: dann hast du noch kein gutes bier getrunken ;-)
23:51 < fake> eek. fehler.
23:51 < chrisime> _NULL: also, was?? typ(w) daraus schliess ich -> madel
23:51 < chrisime> esden: wo gibtsn des
23:51 < esden> in ingolstadt ;-)
23:51 < _NULL> chrisime: ja, andere moeglichkeiten gibt's ja nimmer.
23:51 < chrisime> ascho
23:51 < esden> aber ich wette auch in mingen
23:51 < chrisime> _NULL: however ;-)
23:52 < chrisime> naja, meine schwester verbringt teils ihrer zeit au in so komischen lovechats aber die geht au no ausm haus
23:52 < fake> minga
23:52 < chrisime> esden: was bistn du fuer einer
23:52 * fake macht urlaub in minga
23:52 < chrisime> fake: dann sag mir bescheid
23:52 < chrisime> koennen uns mal treffen 
23:52 < _NULL> minga?
23:52 < chrisime> muenchen
23:53 < chrisime> auf hochdeustch
23:53 < chrisime> s<->t
23:53 < _NULL> danke.
23:53 < fake> chrisime: in err... der Konrad-Celtis-Str. oder so
23:53 < esden> sorry ... ich bin kein bayer ... oder so ...
23:53 < chrisime> bidde
23:53 < chrisime> fake: wo das
23:53 * -> esden ist nur ein scheiss pole
23:53 < chrisime> stadtteil?
23:53 < chrisime> lol
23:53 < fake> chrisime: keine ahnung >_< weiss nich mal wie der stadtteil heisst
23:53 < fake> esden: wo wohnt na da nos?
23:53 < chrisime> das sind die die immer die raeder von autos klauen
23:53 < chrisime> *renn*
23:53 < esden> harras
23:53 < fake> o_O
23:53 < chrisime> ah da
23:53 < fake> sicher?
23:53 < esden> ja fake sicher
23:54 < chrisime> naja, net der beste stadtteil ;-)
23:54 < fake> oke... wenn du das sachst
23:54 < chrisime> ist U6
23:54 < chrisime> ubahn
23:54 < fake> chrisime: da sind haeuser. mit daechern. da kann man wohnen. 
23:54 < esden> das ist die ubahn station ... wo man aussteigt wenn man zu ihm will .. @fake
23:54 < fake> axo.
23:54 < chrisime> dachte wellblech huetten
23:54 < chrisime> ;)
23:54 < esden> loool
23:54 < fake> sendling...genauer am harras
23:54 < fake> sagt er grade
23:54 < _NULL> chrisime: nope. strohdaecher. wie in afrika.
23:54 < chrisime> sendling
23:55 < chrisime> ok
23:55 < fake> so strohdaecher
23:55 < chrisime> _NULL: warst schonmal in mchn
23:55 < fake> wie in NL
23:55 < _NULL> *lol*
23:55 < fake> hehe
23:55 < fake> jeden tach
23:55 * _NULL ist jeden tag in munich.
23:55 < chrisime> oops
23:55 < _NULL> hin und wieder zurueck
23:55 < chrisime> ?
23:55 < huebi> _NULL: Daecher in ZA sind mit Ried gedeckt, wenn kein Wellblech.
23:55 < _NULL> bahn-geplagte ergo: berufspendler
23:56 < _NULL> *in
23:56 < chrisime> ahja
23:56 < _NULL> ried, wohl eher ries, eh?
23:56 < chrisime> die tolle sbahn situation
23:56 < _NULL> eh?
23:56 < fake> ried
23:56 < th> objdump -x vmlinux.o | ./btfixupprep > btfix.s
23:56 < th> Wrong use of 'disable_irq' in '.text.exit' section. It can be only used in .text, .text.init, .fixup and __ksymtab
23:56 < th> make[1]: *** [btfix.s] Error 1
23:56 < th> grmpf
23:56 < chrisime> bin froh dass ich das nur noch naechste woche mitmachen muss
23:56 < th> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/th/linux/arch/sparc/boot'
23:56 < th> make: *** [_dir_arch/sparc/boot] Error 2
23:56 < chrisime> dann is die uni endlich in garching
23:56 < fake> chrisime: wo wohnst du?
23:56 < chrisime> neufarhn
23:57 < _NULL> chrisime: wo ist denn sonst uni?
23:57 < chrisime> shit
23:57 < chrisime> neufahrn
23:57 < chrisime> _NULL: in muenchen?
23:57 < chrisime> halt die TU
23:57 < chrisime> koenigsplatz<->teresienstrasse
23:57 < _NULL> neufahrn <-> munich wie weit ist das denn?
23:57 < chrisime> 20 km
23:57 < chrisime> approx.
23:57 < _NULL> na das geht doch.
23:57 < chrisime> na toll
23:57 < chrisime> 30 minuten sbahnm
23:57 < th> das kann man joggen
23:57 < chrisime> dann 10 minuten laufen
23:57 < th> ;>
23:58 < fake> th: schon. bei Y-Tours.
23:58 < chrisime> brauch mind. 40 minuten
23:58 < chrisime> nach garching die haelfte mitm radel
23:58 < th> fake: hilf du mir lieber bei dem strange problem da oben
23:58 < chrisime> mitm auto 7 minuten
23:58 < fake> th: mit boot?
23:58 < th> fake: das war das ende eines make ARCH=sparc vmlinux
23:59 < fake> th: was loesch die sektion aus dem .s
23:59 < th> fake: EGRAMMAR?
23:59 < chrisime> th: mach ma make ARCH=i386 auf der sparc ;-)
23:59 < fake> th: dd
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23:59 < fake> chrisime: also in Rchtg. ingolstadt?
23:59 < th> fake: "was loesch die sektion aus dem .s" EDIDNTGETIT
23:59 < chrisime> hmm
23:59 < chrisime> a9
23:59 < chrisime> ja
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