--- Log opened Wed Jul 31 00:00:19 2002
--- Day changed Wed Jul 31 2002
00:00 < owl> huebi: if i would cook coffee, the people would die!
00:00 < huebi> people. But no real men.
00:01 < tsa> huebi: we could send owl_nude_pics.html to her boss.
00:01 * Mike1 suddenly wants some coffee...
00:01 < owl> huebi: _real men_ what do you mean?
00:01 < tsa> Mike1: no problem. just tell owl to make you some..
00:02 < tsa> ./topic Worshippers of caffeine
00:02 < tsa> ;-)
00:03 < huebi> owl: This question can only be asked by a woman who does not want to be one. And the answer can never be understood by her
00:03 < owl> huebi: blafasel
00:04 * owl gives everyone who needs caffeine, a pill (coffeinum)
00:04 < tsa> nononono! COFFEE!
00:04 < owl> nonononononono! pill!
00:05 < huebi> owl: What's with your IQ?
00:05 < tsa> wrong again. the pill is something for women.
00:05 < owl> huebi: it's gone. i destroyed it using death metal *vbeg*
00:05 < tsa> [IQ] (iq@chef.nerp.net) : IQ <- there it is.
00:05 < d3mian> Mike1: ill last more time to arrive there, therefore i consider 15:30 to arrive
00:05 < huebi> tsa: I met one how jumped from a 9 stores building and survived. he landed on gras.
00:06 < tsa> uh.
00:06 < owl> huebi: i'm frustrated. fscking install shield/install script is going to kill me. :-/ damn it.
00:07 < huebi> tsa: his feet made 20cm deep holes he told me.
00:07 < owl> *knurr*
00:07 < Mike1> d3mian: sure
00:07 < huebi> owl: better serve coffee. Believe me. It's your real profession.
00:07 < owl> *argh* i will leave you now. bye.
00:07 < Mike1> d3mian: take ur time i have to finish some stuff here anyways
00:08 < huebi> cu owl.
00:08 < huebi> owl: at a cup of coffee
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00:09 < Mike1> lol
00:09 < Mike1> huebi: what was that all about?
00:10 < d3mian> hehe, a friend of mine who fell down from approx. 5 floors (building levels), he survived but now he cant have children. We use to joke all the time about that man
00:10 < esden> ok hopefully the last run for dietlibc target ... so that I can send the first patch chunk ...
00:11 < huebi> Mike1: Owl is a woman. And she does not believe she has to make coffee for men.
00:12 < d3mian> lol
00:13 < Mike1> well who the hell does she think she is?
00:13 < Mike1> *g
00:14 < huebi> Mike1: I could not find out. But that's normal. Women never know what they wnat/are/like/say/believe....
00:15 < Mike1> true
00:15 < d3mian> she is just a woman!!! they dunt think!  (just popular jokes, dunt want to make feel bad anyone)
00:15 < Mike1> huebi: BTW is nice to see you around you have been pretty much away lately
00:16 < huebi> tsa: point 40: Better use NOS to get the car faster. You could also use any non oxigen gas though.
00:16 < Mike1> tsa: NOS is cool, and perhaps you might wanna have some nicotine while you are driving it :)
00:16 * Mike1 j/k
00:17 < tsa> huebi: hehe
00:17 < huebi> Mike1: better no drugs at all while using it. You could miss sth.
00:18 < esden> hmm ... no nicotine ... weet ;-)
00:18 < huebi> <- built some very hot NOS-Engines with up to +1000% performance her in Germany at the NOS-Dirtibutor.
00:18 < huebi> +s
00:18 < Mike1> d3mian: try to get here at 6 if you like
00:18 < Mike1> huebi: very cool!!!
00:19 < huebi> esden: weed is for wimps! NOS makes you awake in an unbelievable way.
00:20 < esden> huebi: sure that is right
00:20 < huebi> Faith will be your best friend with NOS.
00:20 < tsa> good idea, anyway.
00:22 < esden> huebi: for sure
00:23 < huebi> http://www.nitro-olympics.de/ <- Best Dragrace weekend in Europe.
00:24 * tsa smoooking..
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00:27 < chrisime> :-)
00:28 < esden> re chrisime 
00:30 < [anders]> *gahen*
00:30 < d3mian> ok Mike1 , re chris , [anders]
00:31 < [anders]> Okay, presents wrapped.. Now time to check up on the stage 3 build of the latest 1.5.17 incarnation.. :) (No worries, no gnome2 stuff in there yet..
00:31 < [anders]> )
00:31 < [anders]> yo d3mian - long time no type..  How's things?
00:31 < chrisime> esden: jetzt geht NAT + FW
00:31 < d3mian> fine, thanx, u ok?
00:32 < esden> chrisime: geht bei mir schon seid letzter woche :P
00:32 < [anders]> d3mian: not bad.. starting to get tired now though.. Almost midnight here... and I have to get up at 6am..
00:32 < chrisime> esden: brauch nur noch DHCP, richtiges BIND (config hab ich unter linux) + adzap
00:32 < [anders]> moin zusammen..
00:32 < chrisime> esden: und squid
00:32 < esden> chrisime: ja ... mache dann mal schoen ;-)
00:33 < huebi> chrisime: export LAND=en_GB
00:33 < chrisime> das ding rennt recht gut
00:33 < esden> ich habe keinen squid ... brauche ich auch nicht
00:33 < chrisime> esden: ist goettlich
00:33 < huebi> esden: you too
00:33 < chrisime> esden: ein zusaetzlicher firewall dingsbums ;)
00:34 < huebi> chrisime: proxy.
00:34 < esden> chrisime: nicht wirklich ... nur ein weiterer klump der nervt 
00:34 < esden> proxy's sucken nur
00:34 < chrisime> huebi: yupp
00:34 < tsa> en_US!
00:34 < chrisime> esden: schmarrn
00:34 < esden> sorry
00:34 < chrisime> esden: das toil is goil
00:34 < chrisime> ;)
00:34 < chrisime> oops
00:34 < [anders]> sv_SE ?
00:35 < esden> chrisme is always switching to german ... and i switch automatically too 
00:35 < esden> sorry guys
00:35 < [anders]> Inga problem att snacka svenska, men kan bli lite ensamt eftersom inte så många kan det språket i den här kanalen.. :)
00:35 < chrisime> blah
00:35 < esden> chrisime: :P
00:35 < esden> hehe
00:35 < chrisime> dummerle
00:36 < esden> [anders]: hmpf ... ok i now know how you feel when we talk german
00:36 < [anders]> esden: Inga problem, jag ska sköta mig.. :)
00:37 < [anders]> esden: No problem, I will behave myself.. :)
00:37 < esden> [anders]: I will also try to behave ... 
00:38 < [anders]> I know how easy it is for you guys to slip in to german, especially as a majority of the people on here speaks german... It is a little irritating sometimes however..
00:38 < chrisime> i do understand bits of that swedish whatever stuff :P
00:39 < [anders]> chrisime: where did you learn it?
00:39 < d3mian> setenv LANG SW
00:39 < [anders]> d3mian: swahili?
00:39 < d3mian> yes :)
00:40 < chrisime> [anders]: it's too similar to german
00:40 < chrisime> that's why
00:40 < chrisime> + i worked for IKEA some time ago ;P
00:40 < d3mian> pero el espanol cambia bastante con respecto al ingles, aleman o sueco
00:40 < [anders]> chrisime: It is.. German and Swedish has lots in common, apart from the fact you guys stick the verb right at the end of the sentences..
00:41 < [anders]> d3mian: me no habla espanol, amigo..
00:41 < tsa> hm...tengo que apprender sueco, mejor
00:41 < chrisime> [anders]: yeah, confusing, huh ;)
00:41 < [anders]> chrisime: well, at IKEA you should get exposed to the lingo from time to time.. :)
00:41 < d3mian> tsa: :)
00:41 < tsa> algo mas que necesito?
00:42 < tsa> aleman, ingles, espanol
00:42 < [anders]> suede
00:42 < d3mian> i like to hear tsa speaking in spanish, that's no common here
00:43 < Mike1> tsa: você falas portugues?
00:44 < tsa> d3mian: para mi no hay problema, pero pienso esden o huebi nos van a mar
00:44 < tsa> Mike1: no.
00:44 < [anders]> d3mian: but for us poor souls that has either not studied spanish, or have forgotten most of it (ir - voy vas van, vamos vais van - or thereabouts..) - it isn't easy..
00:44 < tsa> matar
00:44 < d3mian> je parle french too
00:44 < tsa> arrrgh
00:45 < tsa> need common LANG setting. please advise.
00:45 < [anders]> en_US
00:45 < d3mian> #define LANG en_US
00:45 < tsa> ok.
00:45 < [anders]>         Option      "XkbRules" "xfree86"
00:45 < [anders]>         Option      "XkbModel" "pc104"
00:45 < [anders]>         Option      "XkbLayout" "en_US"
00:45 < [anders]>         Option      "XkbVariant" "pc104"
00:45 < tsa> so now we could even talk to each other _and_ understand.
00:45 < [anders]> *g*
00:46 < tsa> hehe
00:46 < Mike1> export lang=sw_SW
00:46 < [anders]> Mike1: oh no you don't.. :)
00:46 < Mike1> [anders]: hehe
00:46 < Mike1> :)
00:46 < d3mian> :)
00:46 < chrisime> i don't get a 'oe' with that setting
00:47 < chrisime> øæ
00:47 < chrisime> ß
00:47 < [anders]> chrisime: Compose - a - o = å
00:47 < [anders]> chrisime: Compose - o - " = ö
00:48 < chrisime> were's compose again
00:48 < chrisime> the window flag key
00:49 < huebi> are 5.5MB/s a normal speed for a 16x DVD-ROM?
00:49 < chrisime> i think i said no deadkeys
00:49 < chrisime> or wsomething
00:49 < [anders]> chrisime: the Xkb settings above force nodeadkeys set..
00:50 < [anders]> my compose key is set to Shift + AltGr..
00:50 < chrisime> doesn't work
00:50 < chrisime> æ
00:50 < chrisime> Æ
00:50 < chrisime> Ø
00:51 < [anders]> --(anders@alien)-[1482]-[Tue Jul 30 23:50:56]-(~)--
00:51 < [anders]> $ cat .Xmodmap
00:51 < [anders]> keycode  13 = 4 dollar currency onequarter
00:51 < [anders]> keycode  59 = comma less aring Aring
00:51 < [anders]> keycode  60 = period greater adiaeresis Adiaeresis
00:51 < [anders]> keycode  61 = slash question odiaeresis Odiaeresis
00:51 < [anders]> keycode 113 = Mode_switch Multi_key
00:51 < [anders]> add mod3 = Multi_key
00:51 < [anders]> => Shift + AltGr = Compose
00:51 < chrisime> i hate xmodmap
00:51 < chrisime> thx
00:52 < [anders]> xmodmap is alright.. it takes some to get used to however.. I have been trying to get this to work for weeks... and it took me about 30 seconds tonight jsut because I am tired probably..
00:53 < chrisime> i did it one time, but i forgot it again
00:53 < chrisime> brb
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00:55 < [anders]> Mike1: still building the stage 3.. I had to tweak the gnome-applets package to get that working.. it didn't like being built make -j2 apperantly..
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00:56 < Mike1> [anders]: i see
00:56 < Mike1> [anders]: BTW is got your email Tack så mycket!
00:57 < [anders]> Tomorrow I should be able to start adding things into the tree and see if it builds.. I wonder if this type of environment could be used to build security updates that could be made available on the web somewhere....?
00:57 < [anders]> Mike1: Var så god! :)
00:57 < [anders]> Mike1: didn't know you were speaking swedish.. :)
00:58 < d3mian> da u do it Mike1 ?
00:58 < Mike1> [anders]: cool but please wait for me to finish my changes tonight
01:00 < [anders]> Mike1: no sweat.. do you want me to tar up my private tree and e-mail it to you?
01:01 < Mike1> d3mian: sure, Jag talar engelska, franska, tyska, svenska  och spanska.
01:01 < [anders]> And he sure knows his swedish.. :)
01:01 < Mike1> [anders]: no way! we can use rsync :)
01:02 < [anders]> Err.. /me not very familiar with rsync..
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01:02 < codeq> re
01:02 < Mike1> [anders]: no worry i am :)
01:02 < Mike1> i can teach you
01:02 < [anders]> heh
01:02 < Mike1> mom
01:03 < [anders]> good stuff... if you e-mail me the instructions.. I'll read through and work on it tomorrow yeah? I have to go bed now.. past midnight here and I am getting up in six hours..
01:03 < Mike1> [anders]: just give me one minute please
01:03 < [anders]> ok
01:06 * d3mian leaving
01:06 < [anders]> Mmhmm.. 2.4.19-rc3-ac5 is available now..
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01:12 < tsa> <- going to sleep.
01:12 < tsa> cu all
01:12 < tsa> *gaehn*
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01:14 < esden> ok mail sent to clifford ...
01:15 < esden> now off to get stage 2 compiling
01:15 < [anders]> who was it that was interested in new 2.4.19 patches? it was someone in here...
01:15 < esden> hmm but first sync with the new snap
01:17 < [anders]> esden: /me has a patch against CVS to fix build order of several things and to proof one package against make -jN where N>1
01:19 < esden> but it is the 1.5 tree ... right ?
01:19 < [anders]> esden: correctamundo..
01:20 < h0h0> is that supposed to be a fake spanish word?
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01:22 < [anders]> h0h0: nyet.. only a funny one... ;-)
01:23 < h0h0> what?
01:23 < [anders]> nyet =  no in russian..
01:23 < [anders]> can also be spelled njet depending on who you ask.. :)
01:23 < h0h0> hmm
01:23 < Mike1> God natt [anders]
01:23 < [anders]> God natt Mike1, sov gott när du nu kryper i säng.. :)
01:24 < [anders]> guten nacht alles.. I'm tired and off to bed now.. ~~~
01:27 < huebi> good night [anders]
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01:42 < chrisime> esden: http://stats.distributed.net/participant/phistory.php?project_id=5&id=262878
01:42 < chrisime> esden: die mac's sind effektiv ;)
01:49 < esden> hmm ...
01:49 < chrisime> :P
01:49 < chrisime> >3000 am tag
01:49 < esden> ohhja man sieht es
01:52 < chrisime> esden: wo gibts nen apacge
01:52 < chrisime> apacge
01:52 < chrisime> apache
01:52 * chrisime krise!
01:54 < esden> an apache ... what for ?
01:55 < Mike1> anyone has experience with UML ?
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01:56 < chrisime> Mike1: yo!
01:56 -!- frederic_ is now known as frederic
01:56 < chrisime> esden: wei lich den brauch?!
01:56 < Mike1> chrisime Can i use egcs64 to build user-mode-linux(which contains some userspace and some kernelspace code)
01:56 < Mike1> 64-bit on Ultrasparc?
01:57 < chrisime> oh
01:57 < chrisime> i thought universal modelling language
01:57 < chrisime> unified or whatever
01:57 < Mike1> chrisime: oh :( ok
01:58 < chrisime> Mike1: UML == UML not some linux stuff :P
01:58 * Mike1 needs [anders] :(( and he went to bed
01:58 < Mike1> chrisime: its ok
01:58 < chrisime> heh
02:00 < esden> Mike1: can I ask you what you want to do with uml ? and why you want to compile it with egcs ?
02:00 < esden> i mean on sparc ?
02:01 < esden> are you running a e10k that has nothing to do ? ;-)
02:01 < huebi> good night. See you tomorrow.
02:01 < Mike1> esden: gcc3 has still some problems with the linker
02:01 < esden> n8 huebi 
02:01 < Mike1> n8 huebi
02:02 < esden> Mike1: yes ... gcc3.2 should be out really soon ... if i am right
02:02 < Mike1> and as i said before just need to build user-mode-linux containing some user space and kernel space 64bit code on a Ultrasparc
02:03 < Mike1> so while gcc3.2 comes out what should i compiler should i use?
02:03 < esden> aha ok ... (still no idea what for ... )
02:03 < esden> Mike1: no idea ... /me not sparc
02:04 < Mike1> esden: :(((((
02:04 * Mike1 sad 
02:04 < esden> but I think egcs is currently the choice
02:06 < Mike1> ok thank you very much master esden
02:06 < Mike1> :)
02:07 < esden> denada
02:09 < Mike1> nice spanish there
02:13 < esden> where *lookaround*
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02:17 < Mike1> lol
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02:43 < Mike1> d3mian: !!!
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03:33 < esden> hmm ...
03:34 < Mike1> whats up?
03:34 -!- Mike1 is now known as Mike-d3mian
03:41 * -> esden fighting
03:41 < esden> humm
03:50 < esden> god is this ill ...
03:50 < esden> hmm ... I think that now I can say that all software is real crap ... >_<
03:50 < esden> terrible
03:52 < esden> I can now walk over the place with a t-shirt ... "This is esden and he thinks that _ALL_ software is _REAL_ bullshit"
04:01 < fake> WOW!
04:01 < fake> <- thrilled
04:02 < esden> hi fake 
04:02 < esden> fake: wow ???
04:02 < fake> esden: if you ever by chance come by the movie "Im Fadenkreuz" WATCH IT!!!!!
04:02 < esden> ok will do
04:03 < fake> it's about a _real_ incidence (i didn't know that until the end)
04:03 < fake> remember the 2 NATO pilots that were shot down in bosnien-herzegowina?
04:03 < esden> yes ...
04:03 < fake> it's their story
04:04 < esden> urgh
04:04 < esden> cool
04:04 < fake> it's really...... real.
04:04 < esden> must be very interesting
04:04 < fake> there were two ppl in the jet that was shot down
04:04 < fake> both stayed alive after the crash
04:05 < fake> 1 was injured, so the other ( the navigator ) tried to use his radio from some place further up
04:05 < fake> but he had to watch the pilot being shot into the head by the serbic army...
04:05 < esden> autsh
04:06 < fake> das is so derb
04:06 < fake> dann sagt dem sein vorgesetzter er holt ihn raus, und grade so schafft er es zu dem pick-up-punkt
04:07 < fake> .... als er ankommt, bekommt der commandante die rettungsaktion verboten, weil er den luftraum nicht verletzen darf
04:07 < esden> no toll
04:08 < fake> dann soll er sich in "gesichertes gebiet" begeben - wo er mal nicht von snipern und granaten, sondern von panzern und mgs belaestigt wird
04:08 < fake> da tauscht er dann die uniform mit der eines serbischen soldaten
04:08 < fake> daher kam die meldung dass beide soldaten tot seien (im fernsehen)
04:08 < esden> aja ... weiter ...
04:09 < fake> die serben wussten aber dass er nicht tot ist, wollten ihn nur spaeter aus dem weg schaffen
04:10 < fake> weil sein fungeraet im arsch ist, schlaegt er sich dann ( nach einer weiteren, wegen der totmeldung abgeblasenen rettungsaktion ) zum not-ausstieg-pilotensessel durch
04:10 < fake> und aktiviert das "blip" von dem teil
04:10 < fake> sein vorgesetzter hat ja bis dahin auch gedacht das er tot is
04:10 < fake> und in dem sessel sind die fotos, die sie gemacht haben, bevor sie abgeschossen wurden
04:10 < fake> von so graebern von nem Voelkermord...
04:11 < fake> ( natuerlich alles digital )
04:11 < esden> schoen ... und dann die daten geloescht ... oder ?
04:11 < fake> natuerlich nicht. die serben wussten ja nicht wo die gesperichert wurden.
04:11 < esden> aso .. ok
04:11 < fake> und den sessel hatten sie noch nicht gefunden
04:12 < fake> dann entledigt er sich anhand eines geilen tricks des letzten sniperers
04:12 < fake> ... nur um dann festzustellen, dass weitere 3 Panzer und ein Regiment Infanterie bereistand...
04:12 < fake> ach....
04:12 < fake> den muess ma uns mal geben ;-)
04:13 < esden> toll ... ... sisyfus arbeit ... 
04:13 < esden> ja muss ich mir anschauen unbedingt
04:13 < fake> esden: was isn dieser scheiss call_admin.sh ?
04:14 < esden> fake: frage mich nicht ... irgendein scheiss dsl dreck vom anton >_<
04:14 < fake> hm.... nervig
04:14 < esden> ja auf jeden fall
04:14 < esden> aber als ich gemerkt habe das ich es bekomme war es so spaet das ich den anton nicht mehr anrufen wollte
04:15 < fake> das wunder der email - fuer keine partei zeitlich bindend
04:16 * fake wirft noch den build an, raucht eine und geht dann knacken
04:16 < esden> ja ... wenn bingo ne firma waehre haette ich keine bedenken den anton aus dem bett zu holen ... >_<
04:16 < esden> fake: wie weit und womit bist du jetzt ?
04:17 < fake> esden: rock 1.7 latest, ia32, so gut wie durch
04:17 < esden> asoo ... viele fixes ?
04:17 < fake> das ander zeuch bin ich noch nich zu gekommen - hab die letzten 2 tage nur kiste aufgeraeumt
04:18 < fake> esden: noch kein einziger - ausser netpbm, aber das is schon wieder 2 releases her
04:18 < esden> aja ...
04:18 < esden> ich habe heute einen monsterpatch fuer dietlibc target an cliff geschickt ...
04:19 < fake> kewl ;)
04:19 < esden> und jetzt veruche ich noch mit stage 2 von dem dietilbc target zu kaempfen
04:19 < fake> was is andas?
04:19 < Mike-d3mian> esden: <esden> hmm ... I think that now I can say that all software is real crap ... >_<
04:19 < Mike-d3mian> ????
04:19 < esden> ist echt uferlos
04:19 < Mike-d3mian> wie gets fake?
04:19 < fake> danke, nach 2 bier laessts sichs aushalten! @Mike-d3mian
04:19 < esden> Mike-d3mian: fighting with software that sould compile on dietlibc ... but the software is so crappy ... o
04:20 < esden> fake: *rofl*
04:20 < Mike-d3mian> esden: i see
04:20 * fake wonders wether he got that
04:21 < esden> fake: du bist sooo fiesss ;-)
04:21 < fake> *nargf* how many of those annoying sysmails are there gonna come?
04:21 < esden> maaaaany ;-)
04:21 * fake kicks antotn
04:21 < fake> -t
04:22 < fake> esden: looks like very ten minutes
04:22 < esden> antotn ... hmm sounds good ;-)
04:22 < esden> yes seems so
04:22 < fake> every
04:22 < fake> makes 6 per hour
04:22 < esden> hmm ... Ralf Baechle writing to the mips mailinglist
04:22 < esden> they are really active there in the last time ...
04:23 < fake> that gives us approximately 4*6 = 24 until anton gets up
04:23 < fake> esden: lots of r4k patches and fixes *happy*
04:23 < esden> i am happy for you too ... 
04:23 < Mike-d3mian> fake: got a beer for me?
04:23 < Mike-d3mian> me = Mike
04:23 < esden> but when will you continue your work on mips ?
04:24 < fake> Mike-d3mian: of course. Erdinger Weissbier, brewed in Munich, bought in Munich, drunk in Munich ;-)
04:24 < Mike-d3mian> fake: lol
04:24 * fake is in Munich
04:24 < Mike-d3mian> fake: i sort of realized that
04:24 < fake> he-he.
04:24 < esden> fake: have not accidently not forgot to ask nos ?
04:25 < fake> esden: not accidently. i forgot it like i told you XD
04:25 < esden> *seufz*
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04:25 < fake> ask _him_ _NOT_ me.
04:26 < fake> <- whined in the NWN Forum today
04:26 < esden> i know ... i will call him tomorrow ... >_<
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04:26 < d3mian> hi guys
04:26 < fake> hi d3mian !
04:26 < esden> hi d3mian 
04:27 < esden> fake: wheenee
04:27 < fake> esden: i said: gimme the source and i stop whining ;-)
04:27 < esden> hehe ;-)
04:27 < fake> hm... maybe even less than 10 minutes?
04:27 < esden> you will port it by yourself ;-)
04:28 < fake> esden: of course. if there's source, there's a way.
04:28 < esden> yes sure ... even if the source sux like the source I fight currently with ... >_<
04:29 < fake> you are looking into netscape? *g*
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04:29 < Mike1> re
04:29 < fake> re Mike1
04:29 < Mike1> :)
04:29 < esden> re Mike1 
04:29 < fake> hm... esden: will the next mai lcome at :31 or :36 ?
04:29 < fake> let's net
04:29 < fake> s,net,bet
04:30 < fake> i say 36
04:30 < esden> i say 32
04:30 < fake> hehe.
04:30 < Mike1> 34
04:30 < fake> what do we bet about?
04:31 < fake> Mike1: you're out. you cheat.
04:31 < Mike1> esdens alpha :)
04:31 < esden> argh
04:31 < fake> algebraic middles are for cheaters ;P
04:31 < esden> I like powers of 2
04:32 < fake> hm... about a beer?
04:32 < esden> no beer here :-(
04:32 < esden> only sleepness
04:33 < fake> nah, you lost anyways
04:33 < fake> it's already :33
04:33 < fake> (apollo-time ;-)
04:34 * d3mian rebooting
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04:34 < Mike1> thats my MACHINE damn it!!
04:35 < fake> hehe
04:35 < fake> Mike1 lost, too ;-)
04:35 < fake> so the only possible remaining winner is... me!
04:35 < fake> what did we bet about? 1k EUR?
04:35 < fake> fine!
04:35 < esden> urgh
04:35 < Mike1> fake no i didnt lose :)
04:35 < fake> it's :35 apollo time
04:36 < fake> and all important times are measured in apollo time, thus you loose ;P
04:36 < Mike1> <fake> Mike1: you're out.
04:36 < Mike1> :P
04:36 < fake> nah. i thought i'd do you a favor and let you take part - in case you loose ;))
04:37 < fake> <- lost, too ?
04:37 < esden> seems so ...
04:37 < Mike1> lol
04:37 < fake> hm.. 15 mins? would make it :41
04:38 < esden> it can also be that anton fixed it ...
04:38 < fake> anyways, i'm off - sleep well
04:38 < Mike1> n8 fake
04:38 < fake> thanks =D
04:38 < esden> n8 fake 
04:38 < esden> sleep well
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04:38 < fake> you too
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04:39 < Mike1> WTF!!
04:39 < d3mian> re
04:39 < Mike1> grrr
04:39 < d3mian> hehe
04:39 < esden> hurgh ?
04:39 < esden> d3mian: do not mess up everything on the bok of Mike1 
04:39 < Mike1> esden d3mian is here with me
04:39 < d3mian> yep
04:39 < esden> Mike1: poor boy *evil_grin*
04:40 < d3mian> hehe
04:40 < Mike1> lol
04:40 < Mike1> esden but no worries he wants u
04:40 < Mike1> :)
04:40 < d3mian> ehh?
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04:41 < esden> meee ??? *run*
04:43 < d3mian> what da you mean Mike1?
04:43 * Mike1 esden who's that phone esden ?
04:43 < Mike1> oops
04:43 < Mike1> d3mian jk
04:43 < d3mian> :)
04:44 < esden> hmm ... 
04:45 < d3mian> is there a way to trap a SIGINT with a shell script ?
04:45 < esden> yes sure ... look in the scripts of rocklinux
04:45 < esden> ;-)
04:46 < Mike1> or fell free to call clifford and ask him
04:46 < Mike1> he will probably feel free to drop the phone in ur fac
04:46 < Mike1> +e
04:46 < Mike1> :P
04:46 < d3mian> what is his phone?
04:46 < esden> i think clifford would kill him ...
04:46 < d3mian> well, i know Mike1 will lend me his phone to call him
04:47 < Mike1> esden if you to call clifford or ripclaw during quality sleep time who would u prefer to call?
04:47 < Mike1> sure
04:47 < Mike1> d3mian ip phone rulez
04:47 < Mike1> :)
04:47 < esden> hmm ... none of them ...
04:48 < Mike1> esden hehe
04:48 < d3mian> i dunt want to deep in scripts, which of them trap the signal?, or gimme a clue to do a grep!
04:49 < Mike1> grep <option> what-you-need scripts/*
04:49 * Mike1 hehe :P
04:49 < d3mian> argg
04:50 * -> esden on the way
04:50 < Mike1> ?
04:52 < esden>         found_error() {
04:52 < esden>                 echo "Command returned exit status $?."
04:52 < esden>                 exit 1
04:52 < esden>         }
04:52 < esden>         trap 'found_error' ERR
04:52 < esden>         set -e # just paranoia
04:52 < esden>         
04:52 < esden>         trap 'echo "Got SIGIN (Crtl-C). Aborting build." ; exit 1' INT
04:52 < esden>         exec < /dev/null
04:53 < d3mian> umm, nice
04:53 < esden> hehe ... I love clifford's paranoia
04:53 < d3mian> :)
04:54 < esden> d3mian: is that what you were searching for ?
04:54 < Mike1> esden you are evil d3mian is trying to blow my machine!!
04:55 < d3mian> yep
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04:55 < Mike1> esden will u help me kick d3mian's GEIL ass if he fucks anything??
04:56 < Mike1> hallo zman_
04:56 < zman_> hi Mike1
04:56 < zman_> just listening tonight
04:56 < esden> Mike1: ohh ... sorry ... >_<
04:57 < Mike1> zman_ ?
04:57 < esden> hi zman_ 
04:57 < zman_> hi esden
04:57 < esden> hmm ... I will have to go sleeping now ... 
04:57 < d3mian> Mike1: if you try to close to me, be sure, ill do a: mike@alicia:~/projects/ROCK/rock-1.5$rm -rf .
04:58 * -> esden needs now some sleep badly ... /me hacked the last 15 hours ... and before that i had to stend that heat ... >_<
04:58 < esden> terrible
04:59 < Mike1> esden so go get some sleep
04:59 < d3mian> oh oh, Mike1, do you have a back up of ur rock stuff ?
04:59 < esden> hmm ... will do ... will do
04:59 < Mike1> d3mian depends, do u have a backup of ur life?
04:59 * -> esden packing stuff together
04:59 < d3mian> :(
05:00 * Mike1 looking for his shotgun
05:00 * d3mian is preparing its knife!!
05:00 * Mike1 drops esden to d3mian 
05:02 < esden> *ruaaaaarrrr* *bite_d3mian* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew* *chew* 
05:03 * Mike1 getting ready to go home 
05:03 < Mike1> esden hehe
05:03 * Mike1 *ROTL*
05:03 < d3mian> LOL
05:03 < esden> ok ... I go home now ... cu guys
05:03 < Mike1> esden me too nacht
05:03 < d3mian> cu esden
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05:04 < esden> good night alltogether
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05:10 < d3mian> cu too
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08:31 < huebi> moin
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10:39 < [anders]> *gahen!*
10:39 < [anders]> moin zusammen
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10:46 < huebi> moin [anders]
10:57 < [anders]> huebi: I overslept this morning.. didn't get up until about 7:15 and then I waited for the gf to get ready and dropped her off at work.,. I am usually in at work before 8am, today I didn't get in until 9:35..
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10:59 < huebi> [anders]: o_O
10:59 < huebi> moin bluefire
10:59 < bluefire> Hellihello ;)
11:00 < [anders]> huebi: x_x more like it...
11:00 < [anders]> I am looking forward to the espresso coffee this morning so I can wake up a bit.
11:01 < huebi> I add some missing programs for SCSI devices to 1.5.17, look for updated pqackages like qt and start a new build later.
11:01 < huebi> [anders]: owl isn't around here. Bad luck. She could make some coffee *g*
11:02 < [anders]> huebi: ok.. I'll pull CVS and make some patches in a bit..
11:03 < huebi> [anders]: nice.
11:04 < [anders]> Hmm.. I should probably send you a patch with the updated build sequence for some of the gnome packages..
11:04 < huebi> [anders]: What do you want to do with Gnome2? Do you want to put it now into cvs or later, when the packages for it are finished?
11:05 < huebi> [anders]: yep, send me the patch. I put it into cvs then.
11:08 < [anders]> huebi: I spoke with Mike1 yesterday about this and he and I are going to co-operate on getting it working. I think we should concentrate on getting 1.6.0 ready and released and then get 1.6.1 out shortly afterwards with Gnome2 in it. Getting gnome2 into 1.5.17 now would be nice, but there are space issue to consider as well as the fact it is a rather big change
11:09 < huebi> (Nice. only 27 degrees in my room today)
11:09 < huebi> [anders]: ACK
11:09 < [anders]> with Gnome2 you can replace perhaps half of Gnome 1.4 with it, but the libraries and some of the packages from Gnome 1.4 will still be needed to build gtk+ 1.x stuff..
11:10 < [anders]> And you are talking about 250MB+ stuff of Gnome2 things when installed.. the base+opt ISO is already nudging on 700MB..
11:10 < huebi> [anders]: and there are more issues to solve like the boot CDs, kernel configuration for all architectures, and the space issue.
11:10 < [anders]> Perhaps we should also into 1.6.1 incorporate the dRock feature of installing from two CD's ?
11:11 < [anders]> or even three CD's.. Once we have that feature we should be able to do a lot more with Rock 1.6.x
11:12 < [anders]> <- afk - coffee
11:12 < huebi> I want to solve the space issue with a modified linux-src(no whole sourectree in there. Instead of that only a build script for the tree.) and XFree86 package (no documentation anymore) and I will move rfc to ext.
11:13 * huebi getting coffee, too.
11:19 < huebi> got it ;-)
11:39 * [anders] is back, fueled up with caffeine and running a port glitching test on an experimental build at work..
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12:20 < th> re
12:26 < snyke> hi th
12:31 < huebi> moin th
12:34 < th> jo hi
12:38 < [anders]> huebi: anders.patches.1.5.17.020731.tbz2 uploaded, as is the md5 file. take a peek at it and let me know if they makes sense. :)
12:39 < huebi> an jo, I do so.
12:39 < huebi> [anders]: jo, I do so.
12:48 < [anders]> huebi: okidoki.. I will probably go though building stage 3 again now then. I wanna make sure it builds and works before doing any Gnome2 stuff..
12:49 < [anders]> huebi: oh, and I have regressed gettext in that patch-set. 0.10.40 is required for Gnome2. Once Gnome2 builds on later versions, I'll send you a patch progressing the version used of gettext again.
12:49 < [anders]> you don't have to use that patch, but my builds will be using that version of gettext...
13:11 < [anders]> huebi: could you take a look at the openssl.pz.patch and if you agree with it, apply it to teh CVS repository at earliest convenient..
13:12 < [anders]> I have just uploaded it and only just found it
13:12 < huebi> [anders]: Jo.
13:15 < [anders]> I have tested it myself (not built it though) and it downloads and converts to bz2 fine..
13:26 < [anders]> just fired off another stage 3 build. Should see later tonight or tomorrow morning how it goes.. It should build fine..
14:23 < [anders]> It is a bit quiet in here today, isn't it.. Is everybody hung over or just busy with work/school? :)
14:24 < huebi> [anders]: I cleaned my desk and I'm now reading news.
14:25 < [anders]> huebi: I've been testing/building things here at work trying to a) track down an elusive bug and b) to try and get a new build out to testers today.. :)
14:25 * th is just in a very bad mood.
14:26 * [anders] hands th a cup of tea and a biscuit in the hope it will make th feel a little better..
14:27 < th> i'm afraid that can't help a bit :-/
14:27 < th> thanks anyway
14:28 < huebi> th: So what can help you?
14:28 < [anders]> th: sorry to hear you are having a bad day, anything we can do?
14:29 < th> thanks guys. but you can't help. /me is having worst days of my live. trouble with my girlfriend.
14:30 < [anders]> th: I know the feeling.. I had several weeks of that just before the separation from my wife..
14:31 < th> i can't eat. i can't sleep. i have no fun in hacking :-(
14:31 < [anders]> th: yep.. and until the trouble with your gf is sorted it will not really change..
14:32 < [anders]> there is nothing really I can tell you that will cheer you up in this situation..
14:33 < th> she wanted some separation for a week or two. to think about her feelings to me.
14:33 < huebi> I found only two days ago a first solution with my wife for our problems we have.
14:34 < th> had her in my arms yesterday. then i had to say goodbye. waiting to hear something from her is a torture.
14:34 < huebi> Separation is _no_ solution for us because we both want to be there for our daughter.
14:35 < [anders]> huebi: in my case the separation was agreed to because it would mean less friction and less chance of things turning sour..
14:36 < [anders]> And also, the love had gone.. There is very little dto do when that happens..
14:36 < huebi> th: perhaps you can call her and talk to her over this longer distance. For me that helped to find out the real problems and a solution for them
14:37 < th> huebi: no. no communication at all. i must not call her. we had a weekend relationship where telephone was our major communication
14:37 < th> so it would be no separation with phoning her
14:38 < th> the problem is - things go so slow if you have no fun.
14:38 < huebi> [anders]: Love is feeling that must be taken care of. Like a small plant that will die if you don't give it some water and light.
14:40 < huebi> th: OK. Then an other idea is to meditate aboub what you for yourself - only for yourself - really want. And what is good for you. And then go for it without any doubt.
14:42 < th> huebi: i really want to get her back in my arms. i want to hear her car approaching. i want to see her
14:42 < th> huebi: all i want is not possible ATM
14:43 < th> i'm really really afraid to get her final goodbye.
14:44 < [anders]> huebi: I know that, not so easy when forced to work far from home because wife is spending money faster than I could earn it. Travelling home every weekend was not possible as I would have become so tired I could not have done my work properly and probably would have got fired..
14:45 < [anders]> love needs to be cared for and nurtured by both sides, not just one side...
14:45 < huebi> [anders]: ACK.
14:47 < [anders]> I did try and provide a better life for my family by moving to Sweden, but was forced to carry on working in UK to try and pay of the debt my wife had run up. And that was what broke the marriage completely. I was never home as I was trng hard to pay the debts and meanwhile she was busy creating new debt with the phone..
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14:49 < huebi> moin Ge0rG
14:49 < [anders]> moin Ge0rG , wie gehts?
14:51 * Ge0rG ist eigentlich gar nicht da ;(
14:51 < Ge0rG> ;)
14:53 < huebi> [anders]: If I look at the cost of a family, how much money I have to spend for it, then it's allway a bad deal. Luckily my wife does not spend more money than I earn. But to get woken up in the morning after only 4h of sleep by my daughter who wants to play with me is really worth it.
14:54 < [anders]> huebi: I really really miss my daughter, but I would still not get to see her more often than I do now.. Perhaps in ten years time I would have...
14:55 < [anders]> Perhaps with the way things are now, I will be able to afford to take two weeks holiday now and then and I get to see her 24/7. As things were, I could not have done that..
14:56 < rolla> re
14:56 < huebi> moin rolla
14:57 < rolla> how are you doing huebi ?
14:58 < huebi> fine. And hungry. Time for lunch it's 14:58 here
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14:58 < rolla> where is here ?
14:59 < huebi> Germany
14:59 < huebi> Frankfurt
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14:59 < rolla> cool :0
14:59 < rolla> it is breakfest time here
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15:03 < rolla> who is the main drock maintainer ?
15:03 < [anders]> rolla: Rene Rebe (rxr)
15:03 < rolla> okay
15:03 < huebi> rxr_away but he is in Denmark on vacation.
15:04 * [anders] figures that a family is the fastest way to both happiness and heartache.. Probably both at the same time..
15:04 < rolla> great
15:04 < rolla> I pulled down newest version and it cannot find files already :(
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15:15 < hackbard> hi again
15:20 < huebi> Hallo hackbard. How are you?
15:22 < hackbard> hi huebi, thanks i am fine, you too?
15:22 < huebi> jo
15:23 < hackbard> need to read the last 3 weeks mails to see the progress of rock :)
15:23 < huebi> hackbard: have fun ;-)
15:24 < hackbard> danke :)
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15:47 < Mike1> moin all
16:09 < esden> morning
16:09 < Mike1> hi esden
16:09 < Mike1> how are you today?
16:09 < esden> good thanks ... 10 hours sleep are ok ;-)
16:09 < esden> and you ?
16:10 < Mike1> i am ok too 6 hours of sleep can do miracles too :)
16:12 < esden> hehe ... I know ... ;-)
16:12 < Mike1> :)
16:12 < esden> but these are lost hours ... if you ask me ...
16:13 < esden> but one needs it ... >_<
16:13 < Mike1> yeah i know
16:13 < esden> hmm ... clifford is not here ... >_<
16:13 * -> esden was too stupid to send the patch yesterday >_<
16:13 < esden> terrible ...
16:13 < Mike1> why?
16:14 < esden> I have not attached it ...
16:14 < Mike1> hehe
16:15 < Mike1> so just sent the mail again with the patch attached
16:16 < esden> already done it ...
16:17 < Mike1> then why are you so concerned?
16:19 < esden> hmm ... I think I have sent it ... I will see if I get a reply ... "applied" or "you forgot to attach it once more"
16:19 < Mike1> esden just hold on he's probable as usaul busy
16:19 < Mike1> usual*
16:20 < Mike1> but if you are really stressed you can just give him a call :)
16:23 < esden> hehe ... yes ... requesting a irc query by phone ... my next book ... will appear at orilly
16:24 < th> *g*
16:25 < esden> hi th 
16:26 < rolla> hallo th
16:29 < [anders]> moin Mike1
16:29 < Mike1> God mordon [anders]!
16:29 < Mike1> :)
16:29 < [anders]> God morgon Mike1, sovit gott? :)
16:30 < Mike1> good u?
16:30 < [anders]> Not bad, but to little.. I am tired today.. Got the e-mail?
16:30 < Mike1> [anders]: happy b-day to your gf
16:31 < Mike1> [anders]: yes i got it
16:31 < [anders]> Mike1: thanks, I'll tell her that.. :)
16:31 < Mike1> i made a copy of rock-private and made rock-gnome2
16:31 < Mike1> so you will be having both in ur rsync dir
16:32 < Mike1> [anders]: so we can keep as you said different trees with gnome versions
16:32 < [anders]> oh, okay.. so you have copied things about and when I down next time I'll get two dirs of things? :)
16:33 < Mike1> yes
16:33 < Mike1> i have not upload anything on it yet
16:33 < Mike1> but i will later today
16:33 < [anders]> ok.. I'm just downing it now to see what I get.. :)
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16:33 < Mike1> also the will be a little changelog file in the base dir so we both can know what the othe ris doing
16:33 < armijn> re
16:34 * [anders] is spinning the stage 3 in the provate tree at the moment... it's building qt at the moment and no errors so far..
16:34 < Mike1> [anders]: no need to download no there is nothing on it
16:34 < Mike1> re armijn
16:34 < armijn> hiya
16:35 < Mike1> [anders]: note that the changelog file must be edited by hand
16:35 < [anders]> Mike1: ah, ok.. I thought you said you had done two trees..
16:35 < [anders]> Mike1: yeah, not a problem.. I know how vim works.. ;-)
16:35 < Mike1> [anders]: yes i made it but i have not upload it from my workstation to the server :)
16:35 < armijn> vim...
16:35 < [anders]> Mike1: aahh.. that makes sense to me now.. :) Silly me.. :-D
16:36 < [anders]> moin armijn
16:36 < armijn> moin?
16:36 < [anders]> uhm, hello, tjena, yo.. :)
16:36 < Mike1> [anders]: i thought you were into emacs
16:36 < armijn> emacs?
16:36 < [anders]> Mike1: I am, which is why I use vimacs.. :)
16:36 < huebi> re
16:37 < huebi> moin Mike1 esden armijn
16:37 < Mike1> re huebi :)
16:37 < [anders]> moin huebi
16:37 < huebi> esden: Did you get the packet?
16:37 < Mike1> armijn: so you are into making questions today?
16:37 < huebi> hi [anders]
16:37 < armijn> mike1: questions?
16:37 < armijn> :)
16:37 < Mike1> lol
16:37 < armijn> hopefully will get an old PC of a friend...
16:37 < armijn> will try LFS
16:38 < Mike1> armijn: sounds like fun
16:38 < Mike1> huebi: did you get to do the sparc report?
16:38 < esden> huebi: not yet ...
16:38 < huebi> Mike1: no not yet
16:38 < armijn> argh, so little time, so much to do...
16:39 < Mike1> [anders]: i will make some work around then i will upload it and sent you an email
16:39 < armijn> does the alpha port already "work"?
16:39 < armijn> or at least produce a workable system?
16:39 < Mike1> huebi: perhaps if you and armijn help me a little bit i can do it as well
16:39 < huebi> armijn: No. esden did not fix qt
16:40 < huebi> Mike1: good idea. Do it and ask what you need.
16:40 < [anders]> Mike1: ok.. Looking forward to that. :) I will see if I have time to do anything later tonight, probably not. Tomorrow I should have time however.
16:40 < armijn> I think there's still some problems with SILO
16:40 < armijn> and X
16:40 < armijn> but I don't give a ***'
16:40 < armijn> about X that is
16:40 < armijn> argh, too hot
16:40 < Mike1> [anders]: sounds good to me :), btw excellent work on those scripts :)
16:41 < armijn> next week I will install GenToo
16:41 < Mike1> armijn: so far the system gets build but silo brakes
16:41 < [anders]> Mike1: you mean I am good with the delete key.... ;-) All I did was to tweak Build-All and it was huebi that told me where to look to do the tweaking.. :)
16:42 < Mike1> and the have been not work around X right?
16:42 < armijn> mike1: well, ehr, yeah, kinda...
16:42 < armijn> mike1: and we need a better kernel config
16:42 < Mike1> armijn: was the dietlibc issue fixed already? i havent get much work on the port lately
16:42 < armijn> those are the major problems
16:42 < armijn> dietlibc on sparc?
16:43 < armijn> we don't even use that
16:43 < huebi> armijn: rene proposed to fix it before he left to Denmark. Now there is no working kernel configuration system.
16:43 < armijn> huebi: he's not working on 1.5
16:43 < huebi> armijn: But he proposed it.
16:43 < armijn> to use it in 1.5?
16:43 < Mike1> so anyways the majors problems are that the kernel config is not working properly
16:43 < armijn> mike1: and SILO
16:44 < armijn> the major problem is SILO
16:44 < Mike1> armijn: yeah proposed it for 1.5
16:44 < huebi> ripclaw wanted to fix SILO
16:44 < armijn> well, I don't think it is really a good idea to use dietlibc in 1.5
16:44 < armijn> huebi: ripclaw wants many things
16:44 < huebi> armijn: ACK
16:46 < armijn> huebi: sent packet out to me?
16:46 < armijn> as well?
16:47 < [anders]> dietlibc is something we can try and work on to incorporate later in 1.6.x
16:47 < huebi> armijn: Yes, I sent it.
16:47 < armijn> cool
16:47 < armijn> finally :)
16:47 < huebi> [anders]: ACK
16:47 < [anders]> if we really want it that is..
16:47 < armijn> well, why would we want it to?
16:48 < Mike1> [anders]: that would be cool
16:48 < Mike1> but i think this have to be done for 1.6.1 or so
16:48 < armijn> I mean, what makes it so specia?
16:48 < Mike1> huebi: how come everyone gets packets and not me :(
16:49 < armijn> and if we do it, why incorporate it in 1.6.x and not in 1.5 (which is the development tree)?
16:49 < armijn> mike1: well, you have to be really nice for huebi
16:49 < armijn> if you know what I mean...
16:49 < armijn> like "nice"
16:49 < esden> ahh climatization is something really good
16:49 < esden> hi armijn 
16:49 < Mike1> armijn: because if we keep adding features on 1.5 is going to take for ever to stabilize
16:49 < armijn> hi esden
16:50 < armijn> mike1: so, no dietlibc in 1.6 then
16:50 < [anders]> 1.6.0 should still use Gnome 1.4 and glibc.. We can modify things into 1.6.1 and/or 1.6.2
16:50 < Mike1> armijn: not for 1.6.0
16:50 < armijn> hmm...
16:51 < huebi> Mike1: You want a big packet. That often needs longer.
16:51 < huebi> *g*
16:51 < armijn> so, I still don't get why we'd need dietlibc...
16:51 < armijn> +it
16:51 < [anders]> if I have understood things right, for 1.6.1 we want Gnome2... we could leave dietlibc for 1.6.2
16:51 < huebi> armijn: full X, mozilla on one diskette
16:51 < Mike1> armijn: [anders]and i are currently working on a separe tree with gnome2 if we get it to work before 1.6 is release it will be added but no promisses yet
16:51 < [anders]> armijn: space? glibc is rather large
16:52 < esden> dietlibc in 1.6 tree ? what for ?
16:52 < armijn> yeah, glibc is large...but so is Mozilla ;-)
16:52 < armijn> and GNOME
16:52 < huebi> armijn: and KDE
16:52 < Mike1> hehe
16:52 < armijn> esden: i need alpha stuff
16:52 < esden> I willl _NOT_ get dietlibc working in 1.6 forget it !
16:52 < Mike1> huebi: i would settle with a small packet :)
16:53 < Mike1> esden: looks like you kind of hate dietlibc since the last couple of days
16:53 < esden> armijn: moment ... I have the iso here
16:53 < Mike1> :)
16:53 < [anders]> esden: what is required to get it working? masses of patches to the packages being built?
16:54 < esden> [anders]: not only masses of patches ... but the whole build system must be able to deal with the dietlibc parameters
16:54 < Mike1> armijn: is the kernel config issue for both sparc and sparc64 userland?
16:55 < esden> [anders]: you can some day take a look at target/dietlibc in the 1.7 tree ... 
16:55 < esden> [anders]: it is really a mess
16:55 < [anders]> esden: so you are saying we should leave dietlibc out of 1.6.x completely.. To forget about it?
16:55 < esden> but I get it running in 1.7 but I will not do the work twice ... and porting it to 1.6 is like porting the whole build system of 1.7 to 1.6
16:56 < esden> [anders]: yes the best thing is to forget about dietlibc in 1.6 ... or you do it by yourself because I will not do it
16:58 < huebi> esden: What about QT on alpha?
16:59 < huebi> (another question disappearing in the endles universe...)
16:59 < esden> huebi: hmm ... I will do it some time ... what do you need it for ? o_O
17:00 < huebi> esden: KDE
17:00 < huebi> I will do it some time <- 2017 or even later?
17:00 < esden> huebi: urgh ... WHO NEEDS THE KDE CRAP ... ARGH
17:01 < esden> noo ... I will do in in the next weeks but not before the meeting in vienna
17:01 < huebi> esden: People who like a full featured desktop.
17:01 < [anders]> esden: no problem. I can understand the problem a bit better now..
17:01 < esden> I have a full featured desktop and do not use kde ... 
17:01 * -> esden <-- alien ???
17:01 < huebi> esden: So it's you why 1.6 is haltet on alpha?
17:02 < huebi> *esdenaerger*
17:02 < esden> huebi: I _WILL_ do it just after vienna ... *verzweifel*
17:02 < huebi> esden: Stop sleeping and do it now, please.
17:03 < esden> huebi: ;_;
17:03 < huebi> esden: Don't waste time with living just code.
17:03 < Mike1> esden: yeah already sleep 10 hours thats enought for the rest of the week
17:03 < Mike1> :)
17:05 < esden> Mike1: yes right ... 
17:06 * Mike1 getting coffee and a sandwish
17:10 < armijn> mike1: kernel config? userland?
17:10 < armijn> esden: ah, will you put the ISO (bootable) somwehere?
17:10 < armijn> +e
17:10 < esden> I can not promise that it is bootable ... but I hope so ...
17:16 -!- hoho is now known as h0h0
17:26 * armijn installing CygWin
17:36 < huebi> esden: Where is the problem with testing if it's bootable?
17:37 < armijn> he just has one type of alpha
17:37 * Mike1 back from breakfast
17:37 * [anders] is listening to Massive Attack - Karmakoma
17:37 < esden> huebi: no cdrom ... ?
17:37 * -> esden waiting still for the packet from huebi
17:37 * Mike1 too
17:37 * -> esden -> nicotine
17:38 < huebi> esden: Take a microscope and make a bit test then. *g*
17:39 < th> huebi: he would need to check two reed-solomon codes by hand then
17:39 < armijn> wow, cygwin has kinda finished
17:39 < huebi> esden: Packets for Aliens must cue up in front of the wormhole to get passed to the Receiver
17:39 < Mike1> armijn: cygwin? finished?
17:41 < armijn> yeah, my install of cygwin
17:53 < huebi> th: It's like counting sand at the beach.
17:53 < th> huebi: exactly
17:54 < huebi> better fixing qt in the time of waiting for a CDROM
17:54 < th> huebi: i'm searching a number of a girl which is a good friend of mine. perhaps she has some time for me
17:56 < armijn> hmm...girls :)
17:57 < huebi> th: It's the wrong number if it starts with 0190-...
17:57 < huebi> armijn: Yep!
17:57 < th> huebi: of course not
18:01 < th> the number was the right one. she would have time for me on friday :-/
18:03 < esden> re
18:03 < esden> huebi: kk ... will interpret the binarydato in my brain
18:03 * -> esden porting rocklinux to his brain
18:04 < huebi> esden: You should not interpret the Matrix srceensaver.
18:04 < huebi> esden: too many Mathidas in there
18:07 < esden> huebi: mathilda is only grazing/browsing there
18:07 < armijn> heh...set the useragent in your browser to "mathilda"
18:08 * armijn getting some beer
18:08 < esden> huh ... leo.org says that grazing is a synonym to browse ... coll
18:08 < armijn> bbr
18:08 * -> esden did not know that ...
18:08 < esden> prost armijn 
18:15 < [anders]> <- afk - going home, having nice evening with gf. Her birthday today..
18:15 * Mike1 away coding
18:15 < huebi> [anders]: Have a great evening with her.
18:16 < armijn> ok, got myself two beers...
18:18 < armijn> should be enough for the next ten minutes :)
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19:00 < owl> hi
19:06 < huebi> hi owl
19:08 < owl> moin huebi
19:29 < rolla> grr
19:30 < rolla> drock is all kinds of broken
19:30 < huebi> rolla: ack
19:30 < rolla> I thought it was stabel ?
19:30 < huebi> usable != stable.
19:31 < huebi> That's one reason 1.6.0 still needs some time
19:31 < rolla> ah ;)
19:31 < rolla> heck the thing can't even find all of it packages
19:36 < rolla> what is the name/ip of the fast mirror for the rock ?
19:36 < huebi> iso.rocklinux.de
19:37 < armijn> break early, break often
19:38 < rolla> thanks
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19:38 < Mike1> re
19:43 < blindcoder> good evening everyone
19:43 < owl> hi blindcoder
19:43 * armijn expecting heavy showers
19:43 < Mike1> armijn: showers?
19:43 < huebi> armijn: Here they stopped
19:43 < armijn> rain
19:43 < Mike1> rain?
19:43 < Mike1> *g
19:43 < armijn> huebi: yeah, all coming to .nl now
19:43 < armijn> mike1?
19:44 < Mike1> armijn: jk
19:44 < armijn> jk?
19:44 < armijn> :)
19:45 < armijn> funny...at this moment they're playing "Rain" (Status Quo) on the radio
19:49 < armijn> but it didn't start raining...yet
19:52 < Mike1> more funny it just started raining here
19:52 < armijn> yeah, but I don't care about that!!!
19:52 < armijn> :)
19:53 < Mike1> .
19:55 < armijn> just kidding
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20:01 < tsa> tag
20:01 < owl> moin tsa.
20:01 < tsa> hi owl - kaffee?
20:01 < huebi> moin tsa
20:02 < tsa> hi huebi
20:02 < huebi> tsa: No, I think owl must be a man.
20:02 < tsa> ah, i see.
20:02 < tsa> how do you know?
20:03 < huebi> Does not want to make coffee at all.
20:03 < tsa> hm .. i see.
20:03 < tsa> perhaps owl even has a girlfriend.
20:04 * owl hits tsa with her notebook!
20:04 < tsa> oh, your pink notebook!
20:05 < owl> yeah. of course. i changed the color of it today. :P
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20:09 < ripclaw> helo
20:09 < tsa> hi ripclaw
20:09 < armijn> helo
20:09 < owl> hi ripclaw
20:09 * ripclaw is dead-tired
20:09 < armijn> so what else is new?
20:09 < tsa> hehe
20:10 < tsa> ripclaw: you're getting old, it seems.
20:10 < tsa> ;)
20:10 < armijn> instead of complaining he'd better start fixing SILO :)
20:11 < huebi> armijn: ACK. hehe
20:11 < tsa> hm...we also still need a fix for owl - she still refuses to make coffee..
20:12 < WKaibigan> Flower, chocolates and diamonds may work on owl at least ;-)
20:13 < th> compliments you forgot
20:13 < WKaibigan> Not expensive enough :-)
20:15 < huebi> What else does raise the performance in making coffee?
20:16 < th> oh it's just a performance problem
20:16 < th> ?
20:16 < armijn> ripclaw fell asleep
20:16 < tsa> no, owl doesn't make coffee at all.
20:17 < tsa> armijn: hehe...
20:17 < tsa> armijn:
20:17 < tsa> psst...
20:17 < tsa> RIPCLAW, WAKE UP!
20:17 < tsa> ;-)
20:18 < tsa> hm... let's just wait an hour and see what happens.
20:18 < th> tsa: you should really read esden's new book
20:18 < huebi> Perhaps there is a man missing in her life as a catalytic converter for making coffee?
20:18 < tsa> esden's new book?
20:18 < th> huebi: possibly
20:18 < huebi> owl? Is that right?
20:19 < th> tsa: "Establishing IRC-Queries by phone-call"
20:19 < th> tsa: going to be an o'reilly one.
20:19 < tsa> huebi: do you want to volunteer?
20:19 < tsa> hehe
20:19 < huebi> tsa: I'm very sure what my wife thinks about that.
20:20 < huebi> NO
20:20 < huebi> NEVER
20:20 < tsa> ;)
20:20 < tsa> huebi: so we'll have to find somebody else.
20:20 < tsa> any suggestions?
20:21 < huebi> tsa: Yes. armijn
20:21 < armijn> wa?
20:21 < tsa> ah, ok..
20:21 < huebi> armijn: You are the catalytic converter of owl to get her making coffee
20:22 < tsa> armijn: have fun ;)
20:22 < armijn> her?
20:22 < huebi> armijn: and coffee
20:22 < huebi> ;-)
20:23 < armijn> whom does she belong to?
20:23 < tsa> armijn: you.
20:23 < tsa> from now on forever.
20:23 < armijn> she's german right?
20:23 < th> ack
20:24 < tsa> that's not a problem. you don't have to allow her to speak.
20:24 < owl> tsa: shut up!
20:24 < tsa> we're just interested in coffee ;)
20:24 < armijn> I don't like coffee
20:24 < armijn> hmm...pictures?
20:25 < owl> armijn: so, what do you like? pills which contains caffeine? ;P
20:25 < armijn> "I like to watch"
20:25 < armijn> I quitted caffeine
20:25 < owl> armijn: tststststs...
20:25 < armijn> because now, whenever I need it, just one can of cola suffices...
20:25 * th needs an command-line audio mixer that compiles on ppc
20:25 < tsa> http://www.jaenicke.org/owl_nude_pics.html
20:26 < armijn> ooh :)
20:26 < tsa> i'll get killed by her, anyway..
20:26 < armijn> tasty :)
20:27 < armijn> but no pictures?
20:27 < armijn> awww..
20:27 < armijn> now my day is ruined...
20:28 < owl> armijn: hahaha! i'm not a nude! forget to see pictures of me. you will never see them!
20:28 < armijn> not even normal pictures?
20:29 < owl> armijn: _no_ pictures. no normal pictures. no other pictures
20:29 < armijn> ah, you're one of those people...
20:29 < esden> tsa: Not Found
20:29 < esden> The requested URL /owl_nude_pics.html was not found on this server.
20:30 < armijn> daylight isn't *that* bad you know...
20:30 < esden> tsa: :-(
20:30 < esden> hi owl
20:30 < armijn> neither is a social life...
20:30 < owl> hi esden.
20:30 < armijn> which reminds me...I've to get one :)
20:30 < huebi> armijn: With owl, of course.
20:31 < owl> huebi: shut up!
20:31 < armijn> I will not move to germany...
20:31 < armijn> few days in berlin (CCC) was enough for one year
20:31 * owl remarks, that she is already fallen in love. with the sw33t asus notebook she "met" yesterday :P
20:32 < huebi> owl: I wouldn't say anything if you would serve the human mankind coffee.
20:32 < armijn> unless owl turns out to be a nice blonde vamp...
20:32 < armijn> or brunette...
20:32 < armijn> or a redhead...
20:32 < armijn> but probably not, because:
20:32 < owl> armijn: hahaha! you're dreaming.
20:32 < armijn> A - she's on IRC at this time of the day
20:32 < huebi> and makes coffee
20:33 < armijn> B - she uses ROCK Linux
20:33 < armijn> (I guess)
20:33 < armijn> no one who uses ROCK Linux can be pretty
20:33 < tsa> hehe
20:33 < armijn> all the ROCK developers I met so far are butt ugly
20:33 < armijn> including myself
20:33 < esden> armijn: she is not using rock ... she is using windows ...
20:33 < owl> armijn: you're right. i'm not pretty.
20:33 < armijn> even worse...
20:33 < tsa> armijn: typical geek problem, i guess.
20:34 < armijn> yeah...
20:34 < esden> armijn: I am not butt ugly ;-)
20:34 < armijn> there's only one solution...more beer...
20:34 < owl> esden: on all of my computers i also have ROCK installed!!!
20:34 < esden> armijn: talk only for yourself ;-)
20:34 < armijn> esden: yes you are...you just think you aren't
20:34 < esden> armijn: ok ... good to know 
20:34 < armijn> esden: sorry if I crushed your self confidence there
20:34 < huebi> esden: You're an alien with long toungh. You're not in the human beauty contest.
20:34 < th> esden: gimme a ppc-audio-mixer!
20:35 < tsa> armijn:
20:35 < tsa> -owl- VERSION mIRC v6.01 Khaled Mardam-Bey
20:35 < tsa> doesn't look like ROCK Linux to me...
20:35 < th> tsa: wine?
20:35 < owl> tsa: eumex!!!
20:35 < armijn> but she does use ROC
20:35 < armijn> +K
20:35 < armijn> so, she's ugly
20:35 < huebi> owl: make a quick binary hack for it on rocklinux.
20:35 < armijn> sorry about that.
20:36 < armijn> darn, beer shortage...
20:36 < tsa> owl: do you actually use ROCK Linux?
20:36 < huebi> <- 38 bottles of beer left.
20:36 < tsa> or SuSE?
20:36 < huebi> tsa: SuXE
20:36 < th> DO NOT CALL THIS NAME
20:36 < owl> tsa: yeah. on k0y0r0, my main workstation
20:36 < armijn> huebi: what kinda name?
20:36 < th> PLEEASE
20:36 < th> "suse"
20:36 < th> :-/
20:37 < armijn> I installed SuSE a week ago...
20:37 < armijn> actually, worked on it a few minutes ago
20:37 < th> i lost suse yesterday :-(
20:37 < Mike1> owl how do you make a cross build for ppc over the rock Build-Cluster?
20:37 * Mike1 testing owl
20:37 < armijn> huebi: ehr, beer that is
20:37 < huebi> armijn: SuXE!
20:37 < armijn> d'oh!
20:37 < tsa> Mike1: hehe
20:37 < huebi> Grohe Export.
20:37 < armijn> mixing things...
20:37 < owl> mike1: i'n using rock, not coding!
20:37 < armijn> Gross Export?
20:37 < Mike1> owl: thats not coding
20:37 < huebi> no. Grohe is a local brewery.
20:37 < armijn> just finished my 2nd can of "Wieckse Witte"
20:38 < owl> mike1: bla
20:38 < armijn> huebi: then why is it "export"?
20:38 < Mike1> owl: blo
20:38 < armijn> blow?
20:39 < tsa> armijn: was that a request?
20:39 * tsa waiting for owl's answer.. ;-)
20:39 < Mike1> armijn: your asking owl for a blow?
20:39 * owl says nothing anymore
20:39 < tsa> Mike1: it seems so.
20:41 < huebi> armijn: Export is a type of beer like Pilserner or stout.
20:41 < th> stout? you mean stdout?
20:41 < huebi> Pilsener
20:41 < tsa> th: ;)
20:41 < th> a beer called stdout?
20:41 < th> strange
20:41 < huebi> Guinness = stout.
20:41 < armijn> well, export here is what we ehr...export
20:42 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a74.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux
20:42 < tsa> hi plfiorini
20:42 < th> stdin would be a better name for a beer
20:42 < Mike1> ciao plfiorini
20:42 < th> hi plfiorini
20:42 < plfiorini> hi
20:42 < plfiorini> hi Mike1 th and tsa
20:42 < WKaibigan> Export is what they call it in order to charge more :-)
20:42 < plfiorini> Mike1: have you looked this www.it.gnome.org/seegnome.html
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20:45 < esden> th: what do you need a ppc mixer for ?? o_O
20:45 < Mike1> yes i have
20:46 < Mike1> plfiorini: yes i have
20:46 < th> esden: my dbox2
20:46 < esden> armijn: i had never a selfconfidence that this could break ;-)
20:46 < armijn> esden: exactly
20:46 < esden> huebi: hehe ... I am an alian ... you are a human ... I thing that it is much better to be an alian ;-)
20:47 < armijn> you know, my guess is...actually owl is just lurking on IRC to "score"
20:47 < armijn> I just feel that...
20:47 < esden> th: hmm ... sorry ... none here ... I need first a ppc box 
20:47 < armijn> or maybe it's the beer...that's another possibility
20:47 < plfiorini> Mike1: good
20:47 < huebi> esden: Alien have to pay higher taxes on eearth.
20:47 < esden> huebi: aha ... I never paid taxes till now ...
20:48 -!- codeq [dennis@pD9E4DFE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:48 < codeq> hi
20:48 < tsa> hi codeq
20:48 < huebi> esden: you camouflage as a studen from Poland.
20:48 < armijn> yeah, I never trusted the polish
20:48 < armijn> I mean, look at their notation!
20:48 < armijn> all reversed!
20:49 < huebi> armijn: so esden will be payed taxes
20:51 < armijn> that's what he *thinks*
20:51 < armijn> ok, am off
20:51 < armijn> cu
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20:52 < th> esden: ok. aumix just works fine
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20:54 < esden> huebi: pssst !!
20:54 < tsa> hm...
20:54 < tsa> armijn is gone.
20:55 < tsa> esden: do you want to have owl?
20:55 < huebi> esden: to spend your tax
20:55 < owl> tsa: *aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh*
20:56 < tsa> huebi: did he just say "yes"?
20:56 < huebi> tsa: Sure. That's the default.
20:58 < tsa> ok.
20:58 < tsa> esden: first, you'll have to show her how to make coffee.
20:59 < tsa> hm.
20:59 < tsa> esden: did you just die?
21:00 < tsa> huebi: what now?
21:01 < huebi> esden just controls his new star ship: http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/NCC-1864.jpg
21:02 < tsa> lol.
21:03 < huebi> tsa: he really needs it now. The last time he was driving a car the last thing he remebers is this: http://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/speed-limit.jpg
21:04 < owl> lol :)
21:05 < tsa> *G**
21:06 < huebi> can you see the container for coffee bean on to of the helicopter? It's obvious that it is a womans aircraft.
21:06 < huebi> +s +p
21:06 < tsa> haha
21:06 < owl> huebi: what are you thinking about the whole day - coffee?! incredible
21:07 < huebi> rotor with integrated coffee mill
21:08 < owl> *gggg*
21:11 * owl currently listens to cannibal corpse - i will kill you...
21:11 < owl> huebi... :PPPP
21:11 < huebi> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/anw-31.07.02-004/ <- YES!
21:13 < huebi> owl: I see your long alien toungh. Now I know you belong to esden
21:13 < esden> huebi: your information is protty old ... this ship is pretty old ...
21:14 < huebi> esden: I also didn't see you with a new car.
21:14 < esden> huebi: what car are you driving ? ... have you checked if it is still where you left it ?
21:15 < huebi> yes.
21:15 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a74.tin.it] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:15 < esden> good ... ;-)
21:15 < owl> huebi: never.
21:16 < esden> huebi: are you also sure that it is not a hologram what you saw ?
21:16 < huebi> esden: Sag' doch einfach: "Vier fahn Golf!"
21:17 < huebi> esden: Absolutly sure. polish holograms don't hit the car make and alien holograms are only flyable
21:19 < Mike1> can anyone please give an example of how to export a variable from a html file to a shell script?
21:19 < esden> huebi: your information is really old ... *headshake*
21:20 < th> Mike1: bash?
21:20 < Mike1> th yes
21:20 < th> Mike1: so you have a bash CGI-script?
21:21 < Mike1> th thats what i am trying to do
21:21 < th> Mike1: there is a difference in doing so between http-POST and http-GET
21:21 < th> Mike1: talking about <FORM>? or just about ?foo=bar added to url?
21:21 < Mike1> th but i need to read $1 and $2 from a form on a html file
21:22 < th> Mike1: a form. ok. so it depends on your method="xyz" setting
21:22 < th> Mike1: is it get or post?
21:22 < Mike1> post
21:23 < th> post can be read on stdin
21:23 < Mike1> then i need to run my shell script get the ouput back to html
21:23 < th> get can be found in environment
21:23 < Mike1> +t
21:23 < th> Mike1: therefore you need to sent content-type header
21:23 -!- codeq [dennis@pD9E4DFE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+ssfe")
21:27 < esden> hmm ... now all this stuff here gets pretty messy ... :-/
21:27 < Mike1> hehe
21:28 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@pD9E11762.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:30 < esden> hmm ... /me missing clifford
21:32 < Mike1> esden: call him :)
21:34 < esden> *yawn*
21:34 * fake is laughing
21:34 < fake> hi there ;))
21:34 -!- angel|of|chaos is now known as angel^shower
21:34 < fake> women are really..... really....
21:35 < fake> it's undescribable
21:35 < angel^shower> <-- thinks that fake is right
21:35 < fake> it's fun watchting women cat-fighting each other as long as you're not involved
21:35 < fake> hehe
21:35 < angel^shower> *lol*
21:35 < angel^shower> yep
21:36 < fake> *rolf*
21:36 < fake> man ich schmeiss mich so weg
21:36 < angel^shower> wobei ?
21:36 < fake> das is besser als jede comedy
21:37 < fake> maaaan....
21:38 < fake> real-life-anime
21:38 < esden> hi fake !!!
21:38 < esden> fake: women ??? o_O
21:40 < fake> GIRLS!
21:40 < fake> *ARGHH*
21:40 < esden> girls ?? what girls ?
21:40 < fake> esden: i wonder what'd happen if you lock up tora, drachi and kawaii in one room for a finite chunk of time
21:41 < fake> say, 48 hrs
21:41 < esden> urgh ... you then open the door and you see only ... _RED_
21:41 < esden> fake: are they @ nos ?
21:43 < tsa> re.
21:43 < rolla> fake
21:44 * tsa finished writing invoices.
21:44 < fake> esden: i'd feel sorry for the room
21:44 < fake> esden: no.
21:44 < fake> hi rolla !
21:44 < fake> hi tsa
21:44 < tsa> hi fake.
21:44 < tsa> fake: want to have owl?
21:45 < th> fake: has to work on iga. do NOT disturb him
21:45 < fake> he he he
21:45 < fake> tsa: eh?
21:46 < owl> fake: tsa is insane today. don't wonder.
21:46 < fake> th: i didn't even start yet -_-
21:46 * fake feels guilty
21:46 < fake> olw: that's like he always acts, right?
21:46 < th> fake: *slap*
21:46 < th> fake: get to work
21:46 < tsa> fake: you don't have to. we (huebi and /me) decided that owl needs a man who teaches her how to make coffee.
21:47 < tsa> huebi was not interested, armijn left and esden died by shock. it's your turn now.
21:48 < owl> tsa: thanks. now i feel much better.
21:48 * fake can't make any coffee
21:48 < fake> th: i'll do, tomorrow. i finally finished cleaning up my hard drive(s)
21:49 < tsa> fake: the idea is that owl will make the coffee for you.
21:49 * owl will never do it.
21:49 < th> fake: and after getting iga to work you should read `man rm`
21:49 < huebi> fake: Now it's your chance to get a coffee machine who also cleans up the fscking kitchen.
21:50 < fake> th: no. man cdrecord :P
21:50 < fake> huebi: l33t!
21:50 < fake> tsa: but i can't teach her.
21:51 < fake> "Auf alten raedern lernt man das fahren"
21:51 < tsa> fake: you still can tell her to RTFM..
21:51 < huebi> fake: teaching is impossible. Force her!
21:51 < fake> huebi: you mean with BDSM and stuff? *harr*
21:52 * fake imagines owl in BDSM outfit
21:52 < owl> ./ignore fake *argh*
21:53 < huebi> http://www.imi.co.il/ <- very good and approved stuff to force sbd to do/be sth.
21:53 < owl> ./ignore huebi
21:53 < owl> ./ignore tsa
21:53 < tsa> ;)
21:53 < huebi> owl: /ignor owl is missing
21:53 < owl> huebi: why should i ignore myself?
21:53 < fake> huebi: you can't ignore yourself. i tried.
21:54 < tsa> fake: lol
21:54 < huebi> http://www.imi.co.il/ <- very well proven as know from the daily "CNN-Ad-Show"
21:54 < huebi> +n
21:55 < huebi> owl: that's obvious. Please raise your IQ.
21:55 < fake> *klick*
21:55 < fake> *ROFL*
21:55 < owl> *argh*
21:56 < fake> he huebi, you're in a good modd today, eh? ;-)
21:56 * owl destroyed her brain.
21:56 < fake> s,modd,mood,
21:56 < huebi> fake: yep, hehe.
21:56 < th> hmmm can i select from multiple tables (not joining) with one SELECT?
21:57 < fake> yes
21:57 < th> how?
21:57 < th> imagine a table foo and a table bar
21:57 < fake> SELECT foo.bar, bar.bar, bar.foo, foo.foo
21:57 < th> no that will result in a join
21:57 < fake> FROM foo,bar
21:58 < fake> a simple left join, but that doesn't matter
21:58 < th> with tuple (foo.bar, bar.bar, bar.foo, foo.foo) in each row of result
21:58 < fake> foo.bar AS foobar, bar.foo AS barfoo
21:59 < th> i want to have rows with pairs of (tablename, value)
21:59 < huebi> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/daa-31.07.02-000/ <- They have now PCs only coffee machines *g*
21:59 < huebi> -w
21:59 < fake> foo.bar AS bar.foo ?
21:59 < th> ouhm?
22:00 < th> ok.
22:00 < th> again
22:00 < th> i have two tables
22:00 < th> first table is foo, 2nd is bar
22:00 < th> foo has a column foo
22:00 < tsa> *giggle*
22:00 < th> bar has a column bar
22:00 * tsa ordering submachine gun
22:00 < th> i want to do a magic select with the following result
22:01 < th> the result shall be the same as i get from "select "foo", foo.foo from foo; select "bar", bar.bar from bar"
22:02 < fake> select "foo", foo.foo, "bar", bar.bar FROM foo, bar
22:02 < fake> ?
22:02 < fake> or do you mean 2 separate tables?
22:03 < th> that would result in a 4-tuple resultset
22:03 < th> i want a 2-tuple result-set
22:03 < fake> th: that dowsn't work
22:03 < th> fake: so i have to do 2 selects?
22:03 < fake> ( how should it? )
22:04 < fake> yes.
22:04 < huebi> tsa: http://www.shooting-center.de/de.htm <- better for kitchen use
22:05 -!- angel^shower is now known as angel|of|chaos
22:07 < fake> das is besser: http://www.waffenhq.de/infanterie/g36.html
22:08 < fake> http://www.waffenhq.de/infanterie/g36-40mmgranatw.jpg
22:08 < fake> son granatwerfer unten dran, und schon is ruhe im karton
22:08 < owl> fake: wen willst du denn umbringen? den huebi?
22:09 < fake> noch.
22:09 * fake zeigt sein "Ich schiesse nur auf Frauen"-T-Shirt her
22:09 < owl> danke.
22:10 < owl> ich habe doch gar nix gemacht... :-/ und schon werde ich erschossen. finde ich jetzt ganz freundlich ...
22:10 < fake> du bist weiblich. das is grund genug.
22:10 < owl> danke.
22:10 < fake> bitte.
22:10 < huebi> fake: ACK
22:11 < tsa> hehe
22:13 < fake> fuer die kueche finde ich das am besten: http://www.heckler-koch.de/html/german/behoerden/06_grenademachinegun/06_01_index.html
22:13 < fake> duerfte bis ins wohnzimmer reichen
22:14 < fake>  Angetrieben durch den Verschluß, werden die gegurteten Granaten durch eine gleichmäßige Vor- und Rückwärtsbewegung des Verschlusses sauber zugeführt. Dabei kann die Zuführung ohne Werkzeuge von der linken auf die rechte Seite verlegt werden.
22:14 < huebi> http://users.intercomm.com/agw/pictures.html <- fuer'n Garten.
22:15 < huebi> http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifles_82A1.html <- even better
22:16 < fake> huebi: snipern ruled!
22:17 < fake>     * Retail Price $7,300
22:17 < tsa> nice but expensive.
22:17 < huebi> fake: No real sniper rifles. But if there is a 1m thick wall between you and the target there is no problem to hit it.
22:18 < tsa> owl: if i were you, i'd consider making coffee soon... ;-)
22:18 < huebi> for use in the whole hose without need to move your ass.
22:18 < huebi> +u
22:18 < owl> tsa: no, why should i make coffee.
22:19 < huebi> owl: 21:55 < huebi> owl: that's obvious. Please raise your IQ.
22:19 * owl hebt den kopf provokativ hin und malt sich 'ne zielscheibe auf den kopf.
22:19 < huebi> which head?
22:19 < owl> so. erschiesst mich! :PPP
22:19 < owl> auf meinen. welche sonst?
22:19 < huebi> warum?
22:19 * fake schnappt seine Springfiled '03, laedt durch, zielt, feuert, blut spritzt.
22:20 < fake> ein zeh weniger ;-)
22:20 < owl> schlecht.
22:20 < fake> s,Springfiled,Springfield,
22:20 < owl> in den kopf habe ich gesagt! verdammt, nie die befehle ausfuehren hier... pah!
22:20 < owl> warst wohl ned beim bund, eh?
22:20 < fake> huebi: did you know Heckler&Koch are baknrupt?
22:20 < huebi> fake erst ziehen und zielen - dann erst schiessen
22:21 < huebi> fake: No, I didn't.
22:21 * -> esden getting a g36 and shooting all femail beingns ;-)
22:21 < esden> hruaaarrr
22:21 < fake> owl: vom kopf hast nix gesagt. und befehle erteilst du mir sowieso net
22:21 < fake> huebi: they designed a new sniper, that was too powerful
22:21 < owl> fake: lesen will gelernt sein...
22:21 < fake> chances of death 90% - no matter where you shot you enemy
22:21 < angel|of|chaos> i ever knowed that you guys are crazy ...
22:22 < fake> huebi: nerve-shock on impact
22:22 < esden> angel|of|chaos: that is nothing new ... ;-)
22:22 < fake> even with "hartkernmunition"
22:22 < huebi> fake: Jacky Chan sagt immer: "Warum soll ich jemanden mit einem Schuss toeten wenn es auch tausende sein koennen?"
22:22 < angel|of|chaos> esden: but i thought with more stile *gg*
22:22 < esden> huebi: because munition costs money ;-)
22:22 < angel|of|chaos> style even
22:22 < fake> the genfer convention says the chance of staying alive must be better than 40%
22:22 < fake> and the bundeswehr doesn't want dead enemies
22:23 < fake> one injured enemy disables 2 other enemies who have to care about the injured one
22:23 < huebi> fake: ACK. Airguns are also cool to kill ....
22:23 < fake> thus, Heckler & Koch are bankrupt
22:24 < fake> airguns? you mean killing birds? ;-)
22:24 < fake> ( only the female ones, of course )
22:25 < huebi> fake: no, humans. Lasts longer..
22:25 < fake> huebi: you have to hit the... "schlaefen" pretty precisely ?
22:26 < esden> ahh ...
22:26 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@80.129.120.3] has quit (Remote closed the connection)
22:26 * -> esden hitting his *schlaefen*
22:26 < esden> does not work >_<
22:27 < huebi> fake: no, not nessesarily
22:27 < fake> or you have to feed them with the ammo. plumbium is toxic.
22:27 < tsa> .oO( ripclaw just hit the keyboard with his head, it seems )
22:27 < fake> esden: mit beiden haenden flach, gleichzeitig fest auf die ohren hauen
22:28 < fake> !! NICHT !!
22:28 < tsa> esden: bleistift ins ohr stecken und draufhauen.
22:28 < fake> tsa: you'll only get disabeld by that
22:28 < esden> fake: hmm ... warum nicht ?
22:28 < fake> disabled
22:28 < esden> tsa: good idea
22:28 < fake> esden: weil das wirklich verdammt toedlich ist
22:28 < fake> dauert aber so 2 stunden
22:28 < esden> fake: das ist guuut !!! *freu*
22:28 < tsa> c00l.
22:28 < tsa> folter.
22:29 < huebi> Luft gewehr dauert 2 Wochen.
22:29 < fake> huebi: where do you have to shoot?
22:29 * fake got shot by an airgun pretty often XD
22:30 < huebi> fake: only on the body - more than 1000 times.
22:30 < fake> *lol*
22:31 < fake> huebi: i prefer dying by sugar then
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22:34 < huebi> fake: A sniper rifle is to human. An Airgun let you know longer that you're going to die - and there is hope not to die...
22:34 < huebi> till you are dead.
22:38 < fake> hm... right.
22:38 < fake> 1000 shots into the stomach
22:39 < huebi> all over the body. Then an infection...
22:39 < th> fake: i'd prefer a pizza
22:40 < fake> th: good idea.
22:40 * fake making pizza
22:40 < tsa> fake: would prefer weed cookies.. ;-)
22:42 < esden> tsa: do you have some ?
22:42 < tsa> esden: no, currently not.
22:43 < fake> ha-ha *g*
22:43 < tsa> would like to, but currently don't have enough supplies..
22:44 * fake gives tsa a mathilda-steak
22:44 < tsa> hehe
22:44 < tsa> thanks, fake
22:44 < fake> you're welcome
22:49 < huebi> http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,135916,00.jpg <- first test flight of esdens new star ship
22:52 < fake> USS Enterprise NCC 1701-D
22:52 < fake> HOT ship
22:52 -!- ge0rg is now known as Ge0rG
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22:59 < spiketz> hy @all
23:00 < owl> hi spiketz
23:00 < spiketz> when i start XFree86 under framebuffer in the left corner the cursor is blinking, how can i remove it?
23:01 < fake> Option "SWCursor" "true"
23:01 < fake> in the device section
23:03 < spiketz> this option doesn't help
23:04 < spiketz> it's the prompt cursor, which is blinking
23:05 < fake> aw
23:06 < fake> no idea.
23:08 * owl is going to kill the developers of M$-ISWI and installshield. *arghl*
23:09 < fake> go ahead.
23:10 < owl> yeah. it's real sh**. and i'm still connected to my company and working with it... damn!
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23:10 < fake> then stop it
23:11 < owl> i can't. my TODO is about 10 kilometres long... have to finish this stuff until friday afternoon. and then vacation.
23:11 < huebi> owl: Work more there. you can't make coffee so work more.
23:12 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-370.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux
23:13 < plfiorini> re
23:13 * owl makes inserts so much caffeine-pills in the coffee, that huebi dies (if he'll drink it)
23:14 < fake> owl: that would have to be more coffeine-tablets than thos fitting into the mug
23:14 < owl> fake: did i tell something about a mug?
23:15 < fake> owl: the concentration is always the same
23:15 < owl> a large can of coffee... :PP
23:15 < owl> oh huebi seems to be dead now.... *vbeg*
23:15 < fake> you can't solve more than a specific amount of something in a liquid
23:16 < owl> hm. ok. nevermind
23:16 < esden> fake: you have to take pure caffein and solve it in water ...
23:17 < huebi> fake: senceless to try to make her understand it.
23:17 * owl currently listens to "korn - all my hate" (is related to my job... ) *argh*
23:17 < owl> huebi: blablabla
23:18 < huebi> 23:17 < owl> huebi: blablabla <- starts to speak ununderstandable stuff....
23:18 < esden> be nace to eachother ... >_<
23:18 < owl> yeah. from now on i can just "speak" InstallScript. damn. :-/
23:18 < huebi> esden: Ok. I take the big gun.
23:18 < esden> huebi: goood
23:18 < owl> esden: i'm always nice.
23:19 < huebi> owl: Photo, please.
23:19 * fake takes the BFG1000
23:21 < fake> iddqd
23:21 < fake> idkfa
23:21 < owl> huebi: wait a second. i will publish the URL here.
23:21 < fake> *BADABUUM*
23:23 < huebi> * now owl is a "Grillhuehnchen"
23:23 < owl> http://www.closeup.de/articles/large/690195.jpg  << here's my photo
23:23 < huebi> owl: I don't believe.
23:24 < owl> hahaha *vbeg*
23:24 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9590DC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:24 < owl> sorry, i'm insane and evil today
23:24 < fake> owl and me: http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/chatter/sundj.jpg
23:24 < fake> *sigh* the good old times
23:25 < owl> hm
23:25 < fake> and this is how she looks now: http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/spic3.jpg
23:25 < tsa> hahahaha
23:26 < fake> http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/angels/torstenp10.JPG
23:26 < fake> a good friend of mine ;-)
23:26 < huebi> o_O Too many fight in the kitchen. owl loves big knifes.
23:27 < fake> me too: http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/angels/jaxi_schwert.jpg
23:27 < chrisime> hmpf
23:27 < chrisime> esden: there?
23:27 < fake> ( and yes, that is really me )
23:27 < huebi> fake: A photo 10 seconds later please.
23:27 < owl> huebi: to cut my skin into pices, yeah.
23:28 < fake> huebi: surfing pr0n sites: http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/angels/torstenp2.JPG
23:29 < huebi> hehehe
23:29 < owl> the only and the one porn site: http://notebooks.asuscom.de/
23:30 * fake is having a bath
23:30 < tsa> http://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/friends/chatter/piot-doris.jpg  <---- ROTFL
23:30 < owl> -s
23:30 < fake> cu later
23:30 < fake> tsa: yes, that's esden
23:30 < owl> cya fake
23:30 < huebi> owl: cu fake
23:30 * Ge0rG has got his own pr0n site... http://ge0rg.boerde.de/pr0n/ ;)
23:30 < fake> huebi: wrong route
23:34 < tsa> owl: for you:
23:34 < tsa> http://www.geocities.com/lukketto/
23:35 < owl> tsa: haha!
23:36 * owl makes espresso right now.
23:36 < huebi> owl: That must be a lie!
23:36 * Mike1 cant believes his eyes, owl is making coffee, finally!
23:36 < tsa> YESSSS!
23:36 < huebi> But where is the man?
23:36 < owl> eh guys, this espresso is just for myselfe!!!
23:36 < owl> -e
23:42 < huebi> (the espresso is a fake. Just a cup of tea.)
23:42 < tsa> * fake is having a bath
23:43 < tsa> fake + bath = espresso?
23:43 < owl> eh???
23:44 < Mike1> tsa: exaclty
23:44 < owl> i'm drinking espresso. cuz i was so dead yesterday, that i felt asleep when i was sitting in fron of my computers. and in the morning (in the train) i was so dead that i slept and forgot that i travel to munich cuz it's morning.
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23:46 * th would love to feel tired now
23:47 * th would love to start a new day NOW. :-/
23:47 < tsa> th: no problem - go to work..
23:47 < Mike1> tsa: NO! he is helping me :)
23:48 < tsa> ah, ok.
23:48 < th> tsa: i AM at work
23:49 < tsa> oh..ok
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