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--- Log opened Sat Aug 03 00:00:29 2002 --- Day changed Sat Aug 03 2002 00:00 * [anders] uses the hostnames alien, mirage, inspiron, quetzalcoatl and now latest, shuttle... 00:01 < [anders]> huebi: are they in CVS or just in your private tree ? 00:01 < huebi> bin86/bin86.conf bzip2/makefile.patch gcc/gcc.conf <- these are not in cvs 00:02 < [anders]> huebi: ok.. :) 00:02 < huebi> main_bzip2() { 00:02 < huebi> rm -f $root/usr/bin/bz* 00:02 < huebi> make "$makeopt" 00:02 < huebi> make "$makeopt" install PREFIX=$root USRPREFIX=$root/usr 00:02 < huebi> mkdir -p $root/usr/share/doc/packages/bzip2 00:02 < huebi> cp -v manual* bzip2.txt $root/usr/share/doc/packages/bzip2/ 00:03 < huebi> } 00:03 < huebi> custmain="main_bzip2" 00:03 < huebi> wrog window excuse me. 00:05 < Mike1> grr 00:06 < [anders]> hehehehe 00:07 * [anders] is hacking oneliner in shell that will do the replacing of all the MAKE="$MAKE -j1" occurances.. then I can give huebi the oneliner instead of sending a patch.. :-D 00:08 < huebi> It seams to be a little more difficult. Allso more packages now work with make -j16 00:10 < [anders]> hmm.. not as simple as that.. I have to go through each file by hand it seems.. some .conf's need tweaking elsewhere.. 00:11 < [anders]> got to go fetch the gf from the pub now.. back later.. :) 00:12 < Mike1> [anders]: upload rsync? 00:21 -!- kvak|uninvited [uninvited@p50802B12.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 00:53 * Mike1 leaving 00:54 < huebi> cu Mike1 00:54 < Mike1> see you later guys 00:54 < Mike1> huebi: i am going to get the coffee cups printed now 00:54 < Mike1> i will get pics and send them to you :) 00:54 < Mike1> n8 00:55 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 01:13 * owl leaves you now 01:13 < owl> gn8 01:13 < huebi> cu 01:13 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B55c0.pppool.de] has quit ("tired. almost dead") 01:28 < huebi> n8 01:34 < tomik> huebi: :) 01:39 -!- WKaibigan [~Aloicious@ACBADC43.ipt.aol.com] has quit () 01:52 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-143.tin.it] has quit (":wq - g'night") 01:58 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048F29.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:28 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048F29.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:30 < esden> evening 03:07 -!- Freak [freak@p5083893B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 03:09 -!- Freak [freak@p5083893B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:12 < esden> re Freak 03:13 < Freak> re 03:37 -!- [anders]_ [anders@62.3.122.161] has joined #rocklinux 03:38 -!- Sirkull [foobar@n55-1-du-193.202.MDC.vol.com] has joined #rocklinux 03:40 < Sirkull> I keep getting this error when bulding 1.7.0 after stage 1: "Building tools.chroot/wrapper/cc-wrapper. cc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp0': No such file or director". I am running glibc 2.2.5. Any suggestions on getting this to compile? 03:53 -!- Sirkull [foobar@n55-1-du-193.202.MDC.vol.com] has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:54 -!- [anders] [anders@62.3.122.161] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:36 < huebi> moin 07:28 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-317.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 08:10 < plfiorini> wow 2.4.19 is out 08:10 < huebi> plfiorini: hi 08:10 < huebi> great 08:10 < plfiorini> hi huebi 08:10 < plfiorini> i am happy 08:10 * plfiorini still needs a 700mb cdr for rock 08:12 < huebi> plfiorini: That will change in the near future. In the moment I have to fix the whole build system. After that I get out some of the documentation (RFC and XFree86). then it should be small enough again for 650MB 08:12 < plfiorini> hehe well 08:12 < huebi> and no unpacked kernel sources, too 08:49 -!- plfiorini is now known as plfiorini|a 08:54 < huebi> Stage 2 is now co,pletly reviewed and works again, too 08:55 < huebi> 73 packages ;-) 08:57 -!- plfiorini|a is now known as plfiorini 08:57 < plfiorini> good 09:02 * huebi fetching new kernel... 09:09 * plfiorini go to bed 09:09 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-317.tin.it] has quit ("Non abbandonate i cani!") 09:37 < huebi> now make -j16 works, too. No load of about 350 while building the kernel ;-) 10:01 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@62.211.165.204] has joined #rocklinux 10:02 < huebi> hi plfiorini Awake again? 10:02 < plfiorini> hi huebi 10:02 < plfiorini> hhe 10:02 < plfiorini> here's 10 AM 10:02 < plfiorini> i went to bed because i slept about 4 hours 10:02 < huebi> here too 10:03 < plfiorini> are you DE? 10:03 < plfiorini> in DE 10:03 < huebi> yes. I am. 50km in the south of Frankfurt 10:03 < plfiorini> good 10:03 < plfiorini> same time zone 10:04 < huebi> ACK 10:04 < plfiorini> i need a good gnome app to check logs 10:04 * plfiorini writes it 10:05 < plfiorini> huebi: do you use kde, gnome or plain console? 10:07 < huebi> plfiorini: I use KDE. I like the style of Kde. But I mainly use it to get all the consoles open ;-) 10:07 < plfiorini> huebi: i'd prefer gnome and the new terminal with antialiased fonts, and tabs like kde does since 2.x 10:08 < huebi> also KDE is xinerama aware. Gnome 1.4 officially not 10:09 < huebi> though I got it running with xinerama 10:09 < plfiorini> i don't meant xinerama, but terminal with tabs 10:09 < plfiorini> i don't know how gnome or kde support xinerama, because i have only 1 display :) 10:10 < huebi> <- 4800x1200 10:10 < plfiorini> god 10:10 < plfiorini> hehe 1024x768 is good for me :) 10:11 < huebi> I had that on the notebook. And I used to work as a CAD designer about 5 years ago. Now the display does not get any smaller anymore 10:11 < plfiorini> wow 10:12 < plfiorini> but there's a good cad on linux? 10:12 < huebi> it was CATIA on AIX 10:13 < plfiorini> argh! aix 10:13 < plfiorini> i hope there will be a good cad, i don't care much because i don't use cads but we needs a killer app 10:14 < huebi> AIX is much better than Windows. That was the reason I switched the company 10:14 < plfiorini> the unix i saw are only linux and hurd 10:15 < plfiorini> i like hurd because it uses a microkernel 10:15 < plfiorini> linux-2.4.19.tar.bz2: ETA: 14:39 0,16/ 24,84 MB 28,73 kB/s 10:16 < huebi> the commercial ones have also some nice features. 10:17 < plfiorini> yeah, features that linux has taken from commercial ones 10:17 < plfiorini> like the new journaled file systems, as jfs or xfs 10:17 < plfiorini> devfs 10:18 < huebi> ACK. And these features are way better implemented because they stared where the commercials stopped. 10:18 < plfiorini> oh yes 10:19 < huebi> Here a screenshot of Gnome 1.4 with buggy Xinerama: https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/files/xinerama.jpeg 10:21 < huebi> The right 3rd works fine, too. But on the screenshot it looks buggy. 10:21 < plfiorini> hrm 10:21 < plfiorini> i hope g2.2 will fix it 10:24 < huebi> gnome2 has fixed it IIR 10:24 < huebi> C 10:24 < plfiorini> oh great 10:24 < plfiorini> gnome2.2 should fix some things 10:24 < plfiorini> i started a list of what i hate on g2.0 10:25 < plfiorini> i would want to use vte for xchat 10:25 < plfiorini> i think vte works better than xtext (or how it's caleld) 10:25 < plfiorini> called 10:27 < huebi> I use irssi 10:27 < plfiorini> i saw ;) 10:27 < plfiorini> i'd prefer a gui client 10:33 < huebi> I like to have it running in a screen session. When I reboot I have no problem to see what happened since then. 10:35 < huebi> 121 packages are fixed now. 10:38 < huebi> 122 10:41 < plfiorini> well 10:41 < huebi> 123 10:43 < plfiorini> i must buy a virgin cdr 10:45 < huebi> plfiorini: what do you mean? 10:46 < plfiorini> huebi: i must buy a virgin cdr, so I'll write the iso of rock 10:52 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:57 < huebi> 124 10:57 < huebi> moin snyke 10:58 < snyke> moin 11:00 < huebi> snyke: 2.4.19 is out (and in 1.5.17 now) 11:05 < plfiorini> huebi: 2.4.19 compiled :) 11:05 < huebi> plfiorini: here too 11:06 < huebi> 125 11:07 < huebi> 130 11:07 < huebi> 132 11:10 < huebi> 136 11:10 < snyke> where? 11:10 < snyke> what? 11:10 < snyke> how? 11:10 < snyke> why? 11:10 < snyke> ah 11:10 < snyke> Kernel? 11:10 < huebi> how: ftp PUT ;-) 11:10 < snyke> :) 11:11 * snyke is kein Rocklinux-Mensch(?) 11:11 < snyke> ;o) 11:11 < huebi> 138 11:13 < huebi> snyke: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.19.tar.bz2 11:13 * snyke @ 4.6-STABLE :) 11:13 < snyke> argh 11:13 < snyke> was will ich mit nem linux kernel auf FreeBSD ?! :) lol 11:14 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@62.211.165.204] has quit ("ok i should go out") 11:16 < huebi> snyke: Lernen, wie es richtig geht *g* 11:16 < snyke> noeee 11:16 < huebi> *LOL* 11:16 < snyke> :) 11:16 < snyke> ich bleib da wo ich bin 11:16 < snyke> jedem das seine ;) 11:16 < snyke> .oO( mir das meisste HRHR ) 11:16 < huebi> snyke: ACK. 11:16 < snyke> joke 11:17 * snyke war gestern mit dem Esdi unterwegs 11:17 < snyke> hoert der gerade zu? 11:17 < snyke> *esdiping* 11:18 < huebi> snyke: Der ist bestimmt noch am Matratze abhorchen... 11:20 < huebi> 146 packages fixed 11:26 < huebi> 152 11:26 < snyke> hmm 11:26 < snyke> gut 11:26 < snyke> obwohl 11:26 < snyke> um gottes willen nein :) 11:26 < snyke> der tut bestimmt Logs lesen 11:34 < huebi> 156 11:35 < snyke> schoen 11:35 < huebi> jo, geht recht schnell 11:37 < huebi> macht Spass... 11:44 < huebi> hmm. Die Sonne knallt und die Voegel bruellen - eigendlich viel zu laut zum schlafen. 11:49 < huebi> 162 12:25 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-473.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 12:25 < plfiorini> re 12:26 -!- plfiorini is now known as plfiorini|a 12:47 < huebi> 169 12:49 < huebi> 173 12:53 < huebi> 176 12:55 < esden> re hi all 12:56 < esden> hi huebi 12:58 < huebi> hallo esden 12:58 < huebi> esden: die umstellung auf make $makeopt kommt gut vorran. 12:59 < esden> makeopt ... was wird dass ? 12:59 < huebi> ersatz fuer $MAKE. <- Das kann nicht funktionieren. 13:00 < esden> hmm ... ja das ist eine variable die von make gesetzt wird ... 13:00 < hackbard> moin 13:00 < esden> hi hackbard 13:00 < huebi> moin hackbard 13:00 < hackbard> und dann einfach wie confopt in den .conf dateine definieren? 13:01 < huebi> esden: nein, eine Variable, die von make ausgewertet wird. Und genau das ist das problem. 13:01 < huebi> hackbard: jo, 13:02 < esden> aja ... ok 13:02 < hackbard> cool 13:02 -!- plfiorini|a is now known as plfiorini 13:02 < esden> re plfiorini 13:02 < esden> oder besser hi ... 13:02 < plfiorini> re 13:02 < huebi> so einige Programme funktionieren jetzt wieder einwandfrei mit make -j16 13:02 < plfiorini> hi esden 13:05 < huebi> netpbm 10.6 does not compile... 13:05 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+c] by ChanServ 13:17 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C73B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:17 < bluefire> Moin moin 13:18 < huebi> hi bluefire 13:25 < huebi> 183 13:28 < huebi> argh. qt just started. needs again 40 mins or so. 13:29 < SMP> someone imported the fix for the glibc PRC code overflow already? 13:29 < huebi> not me. 13:30 < huebi> SMP: can you do that for 1.5.17? 13:31 < esden> hi SMP 13:31 * -> esden not 13:33 < SMP> I don't feel qualified enough .. but before someone else fucks up, I'll try ;) 13:33 < huebi> SMP: kool. Thank you. 13:33 < SMP> first polish up openssh a bit.. 13:36 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@xs3.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 13:46 -!- plfiorini is now known as plfiorini|a 13:47 < blindcoder> hi all 13:48 < esden> hi blindcoder 13:48 < huebi> moin blindcoder 13:48 < esden> blindcoder: wirst im bitz vorbeikommen ? 13:48 < huebi> esden: Did you test the disk? 13:49 < blindcoder> esden: sure thing, do you have a Sparc Iso lying around? 13:49 < blindcoder> and has zero brought the 2Gig Disk? 13:49 < esden> hubi: no ... when ... ? 13:49 < esden> blindcoder: no sorry ... 13:49 < blindcoder> shit... then it's debian or solaris 13:49 < huebi> today between 3h and 4h in the morning. When else? *g* 13:50 < esden> yea sure 13:50 < blindcoder> and localheros site is still down >_< 13:51 < blindcoder> esden> should I bring crazyhorse so we can watch some anime? 13:51 < huebi> gvim is quite nice to use... 13:52 < esden> hmm ... whenn will you be here ? 13:52 < blindcoder> 10 - 15 minutes 13:52 < th> huebi: and evim is even easy to use ;) 13:52 < blindcoder> depends on traffic 13:52 < esden> I do not know how long I will stay here ... :-( 13:52 < th> moin btw 13:52 < huebi> moin th 13:52 * th faehrt heut nach berlin 13:52 < esden> blindcoder: if you whish you can take it with you ... 13:53 < blindcoder> esden: okay, see you 13:53 < esden> cu 13:53 < esden> hi th 13:53 < esden> th: mate holen oder ? 13:53 < th> esden: nein 13:53 < [anders]_> *g* 2.4.19-rc5 was released as 2.4.19 with no changes.. Uhm, I am running 2.4.19-rc5-ac1.... 13:53 < th> www.city-nacht.de 13:54 < huebi> moin [anders]_ 13:54 < [anders]_> moin huebi 13:54 -!- [anders]_ is now known as [anders] 13:54 < esden> [anders]_: so you have a newer kernel then the official ;-) 13:54 < esden> th: aso ... 13:54 < [anders]> esden: indeed.. as of yesterday actually.. :) 13:55 < esden> [anders]: hehe ;-) 13:55 * [anders] will keep an eye open for further -ac patches to 2.4.19-rc5.. Alan Cox's patches has always been good to me.. :) 13:55 < th> ge0rg is aber gerade in bayern unten und wird mate hochbringen 13:57 * huebi made a BIG update in cvs 13:58 < [anders]> huebi: so you think I should grab it then.. :) 13:59 < huebi> [anders]: Yes. but update before qt is finished. 14:00 < [anders]> huebi: how do you mean, before qt is finished? 14:01 < huebi> I testet all configs till qt. 14:02 < huebi> So stage 1,2 and 3 till qt should work now. 14:05 < [anders]> but at qt it will fail? 14:06 * [anders] is looking at the patches realising that stage 1+2 will need to be rebuilt now.. 14:07 < huebi> [anders]: qt will finish in about 10 minutes... I still don't know if it failes but it looks good 14:08 < [anders]> huebi: ah, okay.. I thought you ment that qt would fail.. :-) What I found yesterday was that qt would work, but later on in the kde packages something (can't remember what) would fail.. 14:09 < huebi> [anders]: I found some errors in the kde confs. It must have failed 14:10 < [anders]> huebi: ok.. you fixed them yes? 14:10 * [anders] waiting for kernel 2.4.19 to download now.. 14:11 < SMP> arrgh 14:12 < huebi> [anders]: I fixed nay things. But I did not test them all till now. 14:12 * SMP slaps tsa on the head with a heavy UNIX manual 14:14 < huebi> qt did work 14:14 < th> ...but lacks static libs ;) 14:15 < th> (i suppose) 14:16 < huebi> th ACK. It needed 46 mins for the non-static stuff. 14:17 < [anders]> huebi: uhm.. you'll need to update bin86 again.. it's version 0.16.7 that is available on his page now.. 14:18 * huebi made the last big update now in cvs. 14:18 < huebi> [anders]: well faster than I ever thought. 14:19 < huebi> gimp failed 14:24 < [anders]> ok.. 14:25 < SMP> ok, openssh.conf plays really nice now 14:25 * [anders] is now building stage 1+2 again to make a new dist archive.. 14:26 < [anders]> well, that failed faster than lightning.. 14:26 < [anders]> > Applying '/rock-build/misc/linux/01-2.4.18-rc4.patch'... 14:26 < [anders]> > 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.rej 14:26 < huebi> [anders]: just delete it 14:26 < [anders]> huebi: ok.. 14:27 < huebi> [anders]: now it's fixed in cvs 14:28 * [anders] is downloading CVS again to patch up the kernel bits.. 14:28 < huebi> "cvs up -dP" 14:29 < [anders]> huebi: dcc'ing you the updated bin86.pz (works, I have tested it..) 14:30 < huebi> thank you 14:30 < [anders]> huebi: nemas problemo... :) 14:36 < huebi> gimp is fixed 14:38 < [anders]> ok.. /me is building stage 1+2 again.. it's on glibc now.. Will detail later what happens.. Time to get ready to go the shops.. 14:39 < huebi> good idea. I need sth to eat. 14:45 -!- plfiorini|a is now known as plfiorini 15:15 -!- kaerF [freak@pD9E3981A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:16 -!- Freak [freak@p5083893B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: kaerF!freak@pD9E3981A.dip.t-dialin.net))) 15:17 -!- kaerF is now known as Freak 15:19 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-473.tin.it] has quit ("Non abbandonate i cani!") 15:36 < huebi> 236 pkgs now build again. 15:52 < th> auf nach berlin 15:52 < th> bis spaeter 15:52 < huebi> th viel Spass 16:04 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:04 < netcrow> hi 16:05 -!- netcrow [netcrow@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has quit (Client Quit) 17:04 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B503e.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:04 < owl> hi 17:34 -!- ringo78 [ringo78@xs3.xs4all.nl] has quit ("Lost terminal") 17:43 -!- WKaibigan2 [~Aloicious@ACB6AD6B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 17:43 -!- WKaibigan2 is now known as WKaibigan 17:51 -!- WKaibigan [~Aloicious@ACB6AD6B.ipt.aol.com] has quit () 18:29 < rxr_away_> re 18:29 -!- rxr_away_ is now known as rxr 18:33 < rxr> someone here? 18:38 < owl> hi rxr 18:43 < rxr> a hi 18:45 < rxr> I'm back from holiday - but I leave again in a few minutes ... 18:57 < blindcoder> g'evening 18:57 < owl> moin blindcoder 19:06 < huebi> moin owl 19:06 < owl> moin huebi. gerade aus dem sarg gestiegen.? ;) 19:07 < huebi> owl: Wieso? Du hast doch gar keinen Kaffee gekocht. *gg* 19:07 < rxr> hi huebi. /me back - and away again, in some minutes .... 19:08 < owl> huebi: jo. noch ned. ;PPP aber du scheinst ja tot gewesen zu sein. genau wie der gesamte channel ;PPP 19:08 * blindcoder killing a SparcStation 20 with a ROCK compile >:-> 19:16 * rxr away again 19:16 < rxr> aber diesmal mit i-net ... 19:16 < huebi> cu rxr 19:16 < rxr> cu online - next week ... 19:16 < rxr> cu huebi 19:16 -!- rxr is now known as rxr_away 19:49 < huebi> install path of gdbm is fixed now. Needed a patch 19:51 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@faim.Physik.Uni-Augsburg.DE] has quit ("leaving") 19:51 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@137.250.82.190] has joined #rocklinux 19:58 < huebi> gdbm is now cleaned up. 20:06 < huebi> sawfish and tetex fixed 20:13 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813309.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:14 < huebi> hi thalerim 20:14 < huebi> how are you? 20:14 < thalerim> Ave, Adherent of the obscure Mathilda Clan Cult! 20:15 < thalerim> eh well, two weeks vacation in denmark ... so actually fine 20:15 < huebi> Nice to hear that. 20:16 < thalerim> I've read rene is on the way over denmark either 20:16 < huebi> ________________ 20:16 < huebi> < Hello Thalerim > 20:16 < huebi> ---------------- 20:16 < huebi> \ ^__^ 20:16 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______ 20:16 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 20:16 < huebi> ||----w | 20:16 < huebi> || || 20:16 < thalerim> brb 20:19 < huebi> 262 packages are fixed now. 20:24 < thalerim> re 20:24 < thalerim> sorry, i we're still unpacking 20:24 * thalerim saltutates! 20:25 * thalerim salutes! 20:25 < thalerim> oh, there must be the typo ghost around *shake* 20:27 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly|asterix 20:27 < thaly|asterix> "Asterix bei den Briten" rocks! 20:28 < huebi> jo 20:28 < thaly|asterix> still no tv? 20:28 < huebi> noe 20:31 < thaly|asterix> tomorrow or so I will create a matrix-tarball with the console-diff (for normal vga and framebuffer), and matrix-screensaver ... will inform you, you may want to implant into rocklinux however ;-) 20:53 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 20:53 < Mike1> hi all 20:53 < huebi> moin Mike1 20:53 < Freak> have a look at this: https://linuid.dhis.org/~freak/guckmal/screenshots/20020803_20.44.jpg?width=800 20:53 < Freak> btw hi Mike1 20:54 < Mike1> huebi: i now got my unofical ROCK Linux Coffee Cup :)) 20:54 < Mike1> hallo Freak 20:55 < huebi> Freak: looks very nice. 20:56 < Freak> heh :) 20:56 < Freak> I was so proud having gotten quicktime to run :) 20:57 < owl> hi Mike1 20:57 < Mike1> hi owl 21:00 < huebi> Mike1: Have you a photo of the "Costa Rica ROCK Linux Cup" 21:00 < huebi> ? 21:02 < Mike1> not yet 21:02 < Mike1> well take it in a bit 21:02 < Mike1> :) 21:08 < fake> hi 21:08 < huebi> hi fake 21:11 < fake> hi huebi 21:12 < thaly|asterix> hi Mike1, fake ... how's business? 21:12 < fake> huebi: you will drive over to cliff on 07 Aug, right? 21:13 < huebi> fake: ACK. Do you want to be picked up by me? 21:13 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-326.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 21:13 < blindcoder> g'evening again 21:13 < fake> huebi: if you by chance come by munich/ingolstadt... 1 day is a bitshort 21:13 < thaly|asterix> moin plfiorini 21:13 < plfiorini> hi all 21:13 < thaly|asterix> re blindcoder 21:13 < huebi> fake: ok. I can arrage that. 21:14 < huebi> +n 21:14 * huebi on the phone 21:14 < fake> huebi: great, thanks! 21:14 < blindcoder> fake: the SS20 only has 1 processor, but 3 SCSI (2xwide, 1xuwide) and 3 ethernet(2x100, 1x10 TP) 21:14 < owl> hi fake 21:15 < fake> blindcoder: oh well, you could try to get a 2nd processor 21:17 < blindcoder> fake: you bet, I will 21:35 * thaly|asterix sets mode +idle 22:02 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-326.tin.it] has quit ("Non abbandonate i cani!") 22:03 * Mike1 rebooting brb 22:03 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 22:07 * fake ist deprimiert 22:08 < thaly|asterix> :-( 22:08 -!- thaly|asterix is now known as thalerim 22:08 < fake> fsck js 22:08 < huebi> fake: What's up? 22:09 < fake> huebi: i wanted to start hacking the fb today 22:09 < fake> but after i set everything up - serial console, etc - i noticed that i can't load the fb as module 22:09 < fake> >_< 22:09 < thalerim> fb? 22:10 < fake> framebuffer 22:10 < huebi> thalerim: framebuffer 22:10 < thalerim> i thought it, but wasn't sure ;) 22:10 < bluefire> good night 22:10 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C73B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 22:11 < thalerim> well ... 2.5.30 won't work here even 22:11 < thalerim> very odd that all 22:11 < fake> and still no gcc-3.2 22:11 < thalerim> i think i must reinstall ... depmod got crazy as well as some symlinks or so 22:12 < thalerim> in 2.5.30 first a devfs part in fs/partition/check.c wasn't right, after comparing the code with 2.5.25-htree I added three letters and it compiles now 22:12 < thalerim> (there was a pointer as an index for an array *hurgs*) 22:12 < thalerim> i thought it's just a typo 22:13 < thalerim> ... but depmod complains unresolved symbols ... devfs_find_and_unregister in snd.o 22:13 < thalerim> this function is 100% in the kernel and an entry is in System.map as well as 22:13 < fake> thalerim: 22:13 < thalerim> I don't know what that message means exactly so ... 22:14 < fake> cat /proc/ksyms | grep dvfs 22:14 < fake> devfs 22:14 < thalerim> eh well, i did want try that, but the kernel won't boot 22:15 < fake> i don't have devfs_find* in 2.4.18 either 22:15 < thalerim> (if I choose some options which doesn't work with each other) 22:15 < thalerim> I should try the .config of 2.5.25-htree 22:15 < thalerim> fake: yes, it's new of /usr/src/linux/fs/devfs/base.c 22:16 < fake> ah. 22:16 < thalerim> s,of,in, 22:16 < thalerim> this function is used by other kernel parts as well, which compiled into the kernel ... 22:17 < thalerim> but i don't want to compile sound support into the kernel, this will enlarge the kernel size unnecessary 22:18 < thalerim> eh well ... 22:18 * thalerim is still waiting for this pizza, fuckin service ... they just won't come :-/ 22:18 < thalerim> s,this,his, 22:24 < [anders]> good evening people... 22:25 < thalerim> by [anders] 22:25 < thalerim> bye [anders] 22:25 * [anders] is wondering what the hell it is that is breaking glibc this time around.. unless there has been mods to Build-All 22:25 < huebi> good morning [anders] ;-)) 22:25 < thalerim> btw. i like sweden pretty more than denmark :-) 22:25 < [anders]> thalerim: /me not going, /me just arrived again.. :) 22:26 < owl> hi [anders] 22:26 < [anders]> hola huebi.. did you do any updates to Build-All previously today? 22:26 < [anders]> moin owl, wie gehts? 22:26 < [anders]> thalerim: Sweden is more varied naturewise than Denmark.. and larger.. :) 22:26 < owl> [anders]: i'm feeling fine, thx. and you? 22:27 < thalerim> [anders]: uhm ... erm ... well ... eh ... I am missing my daily pizza, so i am not that judicious at moment 22:27 < huebi> [anders]: https://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/scripts/Build-All.diff?r1=1.14&r2=1.15 22:28 < thalerim> [anders]: denmark sucks, the prices are *very* high and the service pretty sucks 22:28 < [anders]> owl: I'm alright as well.. waiting for the beer to cool down.. (Freezer is good for that..) 22:29 < huebi> [anders]: Only because owl doesn't serve coffee... *g* 22:29 < owl> [anders]: beer. ts. :P espresso is much better :PPP 22:29 < [anders]> thalerim: well, you are talking scandinavia.. service is usually quite good in sweden though.. 22:29 < [anders]> owl: espresso at work in the week.. beer at the weekend at home.. 22:29 < [anders]> huebi: ok, give me a sec.. 22:29 < owl> huebi: yes, yes and finally: yes. i won't serve coffee ;P 22:30 < huebi> owl: Why the hell not? 22:30 < owl> [anders]: ts: ;) 22:30 < thalerim> [anders]: no, i talk about denmark precisely 22:30 < owl> huebi: without reasons. 22:30 < thalerim> 25% VAT ... 22:30 < owl> s,reasons, any reason 22:30 < fake> WOMEN 22:31 < fake> illogical 22:31 < [anders]> huebi: nothing in there that would make glibc break then.. 22:31 < huebi> owl: I knew it. No logic reason behind it. 22:31 < thalerim> *gg* 22:31 < huebi> [anders]: ack 22:31 < owl> fake: yes! and i like it! 22:31 < huebi> owl can not think logic. 22:32 < owl> huebi: yeah, yeah, yeah. 22:32 < fake> and she doesn't even have a problem with that. 22:32 < huebi> fake: No, she has. hehe 22:32 < owl> huebi: there's a logic that you just can't understand. 22:33 < fake> owl: female logic is no logic 22:33 < huebi> fake: ACK 22:33 < owl> fake: why should i have a problem with it? i'm alive, i'm currently enjoying life, i'm using rock and i'm trying to code a little bit :) --> life = great ;) why should i have problems with something? 22:33 < [anders]> huebi: I'll have a play with the glibc.conf.. it breaks and I wonder what might have changed.. 22:33 < fake> yes 22:33 < fake> why should you have problems with making coffee? 22:33 < owl> fake: man logic is no logic, too. 22:34 < owl> fake: cuz someone wants me to make coffee. force me to do smthg. --> forget it all 22:34 < fake> why? 22:34 < huebi> owl: What you say is not worth to even be a thesis what 22:35 < owl> fake: i'm really _hating_ to be forced by someone. 22:35 < fake> why? 22:35 < fake> give me a logical reason 22:35 < huebi> owl: You're never forced to do sth. 22:35 < thalerim> owl: you must pay taxes to the gov 22:35 < owl> fake: cuz i just make something i really want to do. 22:35 < fake> why? 22:35 < owl> fake: *argh* 22:36 < fake> so why don't you want to make coffee? 22:36 < huebi> 22:35 < owl> fake: *argh* <- No answers left. Brain empty 22:36 < fake> i still see no reason. 22:36 < thalerim> ow, i ringed 22:36 < huebi> fake: You can't because there is none 22:36 < thalerim> ow, it ringed 22:36 < owl> fake: you're man, you can't understand me :P 22:36 < thalerim> must be the pissa deliverer 22:36 < fake> it's easy. if you don't make coffee we will use some nice armor on you. 22:37 < fake> owl: you're a woman, you're insane by default 22:37 < owl> fake: yeah. and i love to be 1n54n3 22:38 < huebi> fake: hehe. This one I'd prefer: https://www.waffenhq.de/infanterie/desert-eagle.htm 22:38 < fake> *sigh* 22:38 < fake> i'll stick to my good ol' Springfield 22:38 < huebi> fake: naa 22:39 < owl> fake, huebi: whua. you have _real_ problems. ts.! 22:39 < fake> "Eine Mark VII mit 10" Lauf und aufmontiertem Zielfernrohr. 22:39 < fake> " 22:39 < fake> sw33t 22:39 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly|pizza 22:40 < owl> fake: but you can't use it ;P 22:41 < fake> owl: do you want me to try? 22:41 < owl> fake: not really. 22:41 -!- frederic [~hannes@pD95901C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:44 < huebi> Mark XIX is even better. with cal. 50AE and 14" barrel 22:46 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 22:47 * fake owl ich sagte: ganz normal 22:47 < fake> muss ich es als topic setzen? 22:48 < thaly|pizza> https://www.linux-rtfm.de/ 22:52 < [anders]> weapons? 22:52 < [anders]> mmmm 22:52 < huebi> [anders]: ACK 22:53 < [anders]> https://www.glock.at/g34.htm 22:54 < [anders]> Glock 34... Takes up to 19 rounds of 9mm ammunition and almost never misfires... One of the best handguns in the world.. 22:55 < huebi> [anders]: The Desert Eagle .50AE is the most precise one, IMHO. 22:56 < owl> huebi: how did you test it? 22:56 < [anders]> huebi: for what? killing elephants? ;-) no way you need .50 calibre unless you want to kill really really big things... 22:57 < [anders]> In fact, I'd like to see a Glock with a calibre of 6.5mm.. Now that is a professional calibre.. A good shot should be able to hit almost anything with that calibre. 22:58 < huebi> And then a barrel made of the new steel for camshafts of the 2004 Renault F1 engine... 2900 N/m^2 22:58 -!- thaly|pizza is now known as thalerim 22:58 < thalerim> re 22:58 < huebi> [anders]: No killing. Long distance shooting. 22:58 < [anders]> huebi: get a rifle.. 22:58 < fake> the springfield '03 22:59 < fake> good ol' rifle 22:59 < huebi> https://users.intercomm.com/agw/nates50.html <- Would be an idea. 22:59 * thalerim pheers about the current conversation... are you guys going to shoot Mathilda ??? 23:00 < [anders]> for elk, 9.3x57, for most other things a 30-06 and for misc things, a 20 gauge shotgun and a .222 rifle.. 23:01 < huebi> My idea behind a big pistol is this high strength steel I can get. Also a small barrel is not that big problem to machine. 23:01 * fake reminds that owning a weapon is _very_ uncommon in germany 23:01 < fake> weapon as in gun 23:02 < [anders]> fake: I'd only own a handgun if I were in sweden and was active member of a handgun club.. 23:02 < h0h0> like, 5 in 10 people own a gun? 23:02 < huebi> h0h0: 5 in 100 23:02 < [anders]> if I was an active hunter (again if living in sweden) I would probably keep the rifles at home.. 23:02 < h0h0> heh 23:03 < fake> h0h0: maybe gas weapons, but no real guns 23:03 * h0h0 *would* have one, but most places don't seem to like selling to minors 23:03 < fake> i'm curious wether you can lend a gun for 5 minutes 23:04 < fake> i wouldn't be able to return it, though 23:04 < h0h0> if you have a background check 23:04 < huebi> h0h0: But in Germany it's really common to drive fast on the Autobahn. 23:04 < h0h0> haha 23:04 < h0h0> strange how the fastest and best made cars come from germany/italy 23:05 < huebi> italy: FIAT and Ferrari only produce crap. 23:05 < h0h0> fastest 23:09 < huebi> I've been working in the race business for many years. I had the luck to be able to test a BMW M3 set up for races in normal traffic. It needs sth very special to drive with 180 MPH in normal traffic without having an accident. That was a really big fun that car (till the first piston started to fail because of an injection problem) 23:10 < huebi> kdepim still failes. 23:11 * owl is away: shocking some relatives 23:12 -!- frederic [~hannes@pD95901C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 23:14 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 23:14 < Mike1> re 23:14 < huebi> hi Mike1 23:14 < Mike1> huebi: you are always here arent you? 23:15 < huebi> allmost always. 23:15 < [anders]> yo Mike1 .. How's things? 23:17 < Mike1> lo [anders] everything great thanks 23:17 < Mike1> how aboyut u? 23:18 < [anders]> working on gettin drunk... ;-) 23:18 < Mike1> huebi: is always to see the people i respect and care about saying hi even when i go and come back 1000 times a day 23:18 < Mike1> [anders]: and you are succeding? 23:19 < [anders]> Mike1: still working on it.. *g* 23:19 < Mike1> [anders]: have you uploaded ur lates tree? i will now get rid of genome 1.4 and move on to genome 2 23:19 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("<=- Hiroshima -45, Cjernobyl -86, Windows -95 -=>") 23:19 < huebi> [anders]: </AOL> Me too <AOL> 23:19 < Mike1> that ok with you? 23:19 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a224.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 23:20 < [anders]> Mike1: go for it.. :) 23:20 < thalerim> huebi: what the hell is the meaning of this phrase you use usually ?? 23:20 < Mike1> how come you guys start party without me? 23:21 < huebi> thalerim: </AOL> Me too <AOL> <-that phrase? "Ich auch!" 23:21 < thalerim> lol ... i don't mean the translation, i mean the <aol> tags .. .;-) 23:22 < [anders]> thalerim: you know the September that never ended ? 23:22 < thalerim> *???* 23:23 < [anders]> The september that never ended.. News groups tend to see a surge in use around september when all the new university students discover newsgroups.. 23:23 < thalerim> aha 23:23 < [anders]> it tails off as the students gets used to news and start posting less regularly.. 23:23 < [anders]> when AOL started.. news saw a surge but never a tail-off.. 23:24 < [anders]> and the <AOL></AOL> thing is because AOL users would quote a whole 200 line message just to add Me too!! at the bottom.. 23:25 < [anders]> (usually several of them would do it in sequence as well...) 23:25 < thalerim> ah ... 23:25 < [anders]> thalerim: does that answer the question? :) 23:25 < thalerim> yup ... 23:30 -!- adrian [~adrian@196.40.64.235] has joined #rocklinux 23:32 < Mike1> Hola adrian 23:33 < adrian> hola miguel 23:33 < Mike1> adrian: te conosco? 23:33 < adrian> Mike1: claro 23:34 < adrian> Mike1: cual otro tico puede venir por etos lados? 23:34 < Mike1> [anders]: is our private tree updated with current cvs? 23:34 < Mike1> adrian = demian? 23:35 < adrian> yep, im testing a new connection from a friend PC, using 1.5.16 23:35 < [anders]> Mike1: no, not yet.. I'll do that now if you want.. :) 23:35 < adrian> mom 23:35 < thalerim> te conosco and claro i get :-) 23:35 < Mike1> [anders]: yes please i will do a lot of work on the tree this weekend 23:35 < Mike1> adrian: so have fun, 23:36 < thalerim> venir == come, but the whole phrase "cual otro tico puede venir por etos lados?" ... mh 23:36 < Mike1> adrian: dile a tu amigo que se una al clan :) 23:36 < Mike1> thalerim: tico = popular way to say costarican in Costa Rica 23:37 < Mike1> thalerim: the whole sentence= Which other costarican would be around here 23:37 < Mike1> [anders]: let me know when you are done please 23:38 < Mike1> master huebi have you been able to build a clean rock-1.5.17 snap without a single package brake? 23:38 < [anders]> Mike1: done. 23:39 < [anders]> Mike1: unfortunately it breaks on glibc in stage 1.. and I have not been able to figure it out yet.. 23:39 < huebi> Mike1: Not with the changes of th 2 last days. But I'm fixing it in the moment. kdepim and apmd still fail. 23:39 < Mike1> [anders]: mm... strange i will work on it 23:40 < [anders]> Mike1: I am looking at it as well.. Well, trying to anyway.. 23:41 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@dhcp024-210-222-139.woh.rr.com] has quit ("I don't care. I don't give a shit. Now Shut up.") 23:41 < huebi> [anders]: I'm allmost through the build. I try it then again. perhaps I find out why it failes 23:41 < blindcoder> g'night everyone 23:41 < huebi> cu blindcoder 23:41 < Mike1> blindcoder: n8 23:41 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@3ffe:80ee:7c6:0:0:0:0:fe] has joined #rocklinux 23:42 < huebi> Stage 4 is now reached. 23:42 < Mike1> huebi: i will compare it with my private tree (build almost weeks ago) but only vim failed 23:42 < Mike1> and i had already fixed it 23:42 < Mike1> thought i didnt include any kde stuff on it 23:43 < Mike1> [anders]: so we are updated? 23:43 < huebi> Mike1: have a look at vim.conf now. I found out that there are some example rc-files. Icopied them with the right name to the right place 23:44 < [anders]> huebi: ok.. looking forward to that. :) 23:44 < [anders]> Mike1: Oh yes.. :) 23:44 < Mike1> huebi: yes i have noticed that :) 23:45 < huebi> I put the RFC's in the extensions. 44MB is way too for the installation CD 23:45 < Mike1> [anders]: ok i will fetch it now and go on with gnome2, i hope we can make gnome2 build before 1.6.0 is released 23:46 < huebi> Mike1: <AOL> me too ;-) </AOL> 23:46 < Mike1> huebi: btw as paralel thing we are working on porting the drock thing to install multiple cds 23:46 < huebi> Mike1: That's kool. 23:47 < Mike1> but as far as now i have not done many things, hopefully i will have progress this weekend as i will lock my self in the room to make some serious devel :) 23:47 < huebi> and I want to have a look at some other distributions on how they handle the boot off of a cd. 23:48 < huebi> but I have not too much time for that. 23:48 < Mike1> huebi: i think having the multi-cd install will help us alot 23:49 < Mike1> huebi: as i have seen on drock is just a matter of umounting src mount the second cd on src again and type Install again 23:49 < Mike1> so i guess it need some little changes to install cd 23:49 < Mike1> s/cd/script 23:49 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a224.tin.it] has quit (":wq") 23:50 < Mike1> i know that is still not like other distros do it but it can be a temporary solution 23:50 < Mike1> dont you think? 23:51 < Mike1> [anders]: source fetched from now on please look at the changelog file in the base dir, as i will comment my hacks there, hope you do the same 23:51 < Mike1> adrian: you there? 23:52 < [anders]> Mike1: Yeah, not modified anything in the tree apart from when I sync up with cvs... 23:53 < adrian> Mike1: so so, a bit busy.. but with available time :) 23:54 < Mike1> [anders]: ok 23:55 < Mike1> but you will modify stuff after include gnome2 i am sure 23:55 < Mike1> :) 23:56 < huebi> I'm not against features. If they are implemented _and_ testet and known to work I really have no problem with it. The biggest issue is to get documentation in the build scripts and sth which could be called sufficient error handling. I think about sth like this. If you start ./scripts/Download and you have not run ./scripts/Puzzle befor it must tell you: No INDEX files in ... found. please run ./scripts/Puzzle before you strt the download." 23:56 < huebi> Just to clear up things a little bit. 23:56 < adrian> cu 23:57 < huebi> If Gnome2 is tested and it works it will be in 1.6.0 23:57 -!- adrian [~adrian@196.40.64.235] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 23:57 < Mike1> huebi: ack 23:58 < Mike1> huebi: i already promissed to work around documenting stuff in scripts/* 23:58 < Mike1> and i will :) 23:59 < huebi> Mike1: That is really great. If you understand the scripts an you think you can rewrite some portions to be more easy to understand - Just do it. --- Log closed Sun Aug 04 00:00:08 2002