--- Log opened Sun Aug 04 00:00:08 2002
--- Day changed Sun Aug 04 2002
00:00 < Mike1> huebi: yeah i can understand a lot of the code
00:00 < Mike1> and sure i will se how i can make it more understandable or at least add a little comment telling what is
00:01 < huebi> When I'm in Vienna I'll concentrate on exact these issues - docu and error handling.
00:02 < fake> i.e. : "bug clifford while he's around"
00:02 < huebi> The Install script must be way more user friendly as it is now.
00:03 < Mike1> huebi: i will be workink around scripts/Internal for a while
00:03 < Mike1> and as fake said i will bug clifford with questions about it :)
00:04 < fake> hehe
00:05 < huebi> fake: And while he can't get away... He said a few days ago he writes no user documentation. So noew he has to explain his code and I write the docs. ROCK Linux _must_ be easy to understand. Then we will get more users for the best "Linux Distribution Build Kit" avaliabl.
00:05 < huebi> +e
00:05 < fake> ack.
00:05 < Mike1> huebi: ACK
00:05 * [anders] is falling asleep... afk -> sleep
00:05 < [anders]> will talk to you guys tomorrow..
00:05 < Mike1> n8 [anders]
00:06 < huebi> sleep very well [anders] . cu tomorrow
00:06 * huebi getting the third beer...
00:06 < huebi> root@zeus:/mnt/disk/rock-linux/base-config# ls /mnt/disk/rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*log |wc -l
00:06 * [anders] is finishing of the 2nd beer (Kronenbourg 1664) and then going to bed..
00:06 < huebi>     344
00:07 < huebi> root@zeus:/mnt/disk/rock-linux/base-config# ls /mnt/disk/rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err |wc -l
00:07 < huebi>       3
00:07 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B503e.pppool.de] has quit ("sunday - another ISP ;)")
00:07 < huebi> "Grohe Export" - My father drunk that, too.
00:07 * Mike1 going to the market in the corner to buy some beer
00:07 * fake is getting a beer, too
00:08 * thalerim is getting an ice
00:08 < Mike1> buch of drunks!!
00:08 < Mike1> *g
00:08 < huebi> never drink and root - su instaed.
00:09 -!- owl [~mail-spam@212.144.169.59] has joined #rocklinux
00:09 < h0h0> why exactly is su safer than loging in as root?
00:09 < owl> re
00:09 < fake> h0h0: you  have to type more to do sth as root
00:09 < fake> so you have more time to think about it
00:10 < h0h0> not if you login as a user and immediatly su
00:11 < fake> h0h0
00:11 < fake> i mean su -c
00:11 < h0h0> oh
00:11 < h0h0> hmm
00:12 < huebi> h0h0: Being root is sth for Windows users. Not to be root is alway preferable. You then can't kill your system.
00:12 < Mike1> why not ssh -l root 127.0.0.1 in stead of su :)
00:13 < fake> you could also run apache as root and have a cgi script installed....
00:14 * h0h0 actualy has root setuid cgi scripts :)
00:14 < huebi> Mike1: "ssh rock" as user huebi logs my in as root on rock without any passwd.
00:14 < fake> lynx http://127.0.0.1/cgi-bin/su.cgi?do=...
00:14 < Mike1> huebi: mm..
00:14 < h0h0> I happen to enjoy the ability to kill my system in 5 seconds should the feds show up
00:14 < h0h0> or some other reason
00:15 < huebi> h0h0: better use fs-encryption.
00:15 < fake> h0h0:electronic magnets
00:15 < h0h0> huebi: I tried to do that. its rediculously hard to setup in linux
00:15 < fake> nack
00:15 < h0h0> fake: Id love to have one of those hot swap drives, so I can rip it out and crush it in 10 seconds
00:16 < fake> justr get the intl patch to the kernel
00:16 < huebi> h0h0: MIL specification wants to have a disk overwriten at least 14 times with random crap.
00:16 < h0h0> disk overwriteing won't work
00:16 < h0h0> the only proper way is to burn it
00:16 < h0h0> or a good degause-er
00:17 < fake> burning doesnt really work
00:17 < huebi> overwrite it often enough. that works.
00:17 < fake> melt it, is faster.
00:17 < h0h0> burning is awsome on floppy disks
00:17 < huebi> or use acid.
00:17 < h0h0> cd's can be crushed easily
00:18 < h0h0> I wouldn't trust acid
00:18 < huebi> cd's are erased in microwave in seconds
00:18 < h0h0> I am only satisfied when I can't tell that the disk existed
00:18 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813309.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos")
00:18 < fake> thermit
00:18 < huebi> use HF
00:18 < fake> Fe2O3
00:18 < fake> +
00:18 < fake> Al
00:18 < fake> ;-)
00:18 < h0h0> heh, for ultimate stegonography, use a hammer
00:19 < huebi> h0h0: thermit is fastes and best.
00:19 < h0h0> why is that any better than h2so4?
00:19 < h0h0> thermit?
00:19 < Mike1> huebi: Clifford is the one maintainer of gnome1 in 1.5 tree, when we move to gnome2 will he still be the maintainer or should it be [anders] and / or I.?
00:19 < fake> h0h0: redox-reaction
00:19 < Mike1> dunno how this things work
00:19 < fake> reaches temperatures of over 5000° C
00:19 < h0h0> what's that?
00:19 < huebi> Mike1: Deside it with [anders]
00:20 < h0h0> wow
00:20 < h0h0> thats in the temperatures-i-can-even-imagin range
00:20 < huebi> h0h0: needed to weld railways
00:20 < fake> h0h0: you get melted ferrum through that reaction
00:20 < h0h0> weld railways?
00:20 < huebi> yep
00:20 < fake> ... with wich railways are repared ;)
00:20 < h0h0> if you for some reason wanted to weld a railway, why not an arc welder or something?
00:21 < fake> too slow
00:21 < huebi> not enough energy
00:21 < h0h0> Ive never seen anyone weld a railway
00:21 < h0h0> or even heard of it being done
00:21 < fake> just bump that mix ( Al+Fe2O3) around it, burn it and WHAM its done
00:21 < huebi> fake: ACK
00:22 < h0h0> what's the Al for?
00:22 < huebi> h0h0: I've seen irt. works really fine
00:22 < fake> h0h0: the =2 gets attached to iz
00:22 < fake> t
00:22 < fake> o2
00:22 < huebi> hoto get the oxygen out of FeO
00:22 < h0h0> so, it doesn't get hot untill you add al?
00:23 < fake> h0h0: you have to get something like 700 °C to start the reaction
00:23 < h0h0> hmm, how hot is that
00:23 < h0h0> mig welder hot? acetilne torch hot?
00:23 < fake> a torch or a fire cracker
00:24 < fake> or something like a little piece of gunpowder
00:24 < h0h0> propane torch?
00:24 < Mike1> huebi: if thats ok with you :)
00:24 < fake> sure, works.
00:24 < h0h0> nice
00:24 < h0h0> where  do you get this stuff?
00:24 < fake> h0h0: rust and aluminium ??
00:25 < fake> look around you ;-)
00:25 < th> re
00:25 < fake> just has to be powdered.
00:25 < fake> hi th
00:25 < huebi> Mike1: Of course it is. I'm only the maintainer of the whole thing. If you want to take over some packages I'm very glad about it.
00:25 < h0h0> isn't there other forms of rust besides Fe2O3?
00:26 < fake> not that i know of *lol*
00:26 < th> h0h0: ack
00:26 < fake> maybe some isotops
00:26 < huebi> hi th
00:26 < h0h0> I thought that there was some other way they would combine
00:26 < th> es gibt Eisen-II-Oxid und Eisen-III-Oxid
00:26 < th> Fe2O3 ist letzteres und rot und der uebliche rost
00:26 < h0h0> yeah, Iron-2 and iron-3
00:26 < th> das andere ist schwarz
00:27 < huebi> "Zunder"
00:27 < th> und FeO oder so
00:27 < fake> th: but it's unusual for ferrum to do that by itself
00:27 < h0h0> can someone tell me what he is saying?
00:27 < th> h0h0: oups sorry
00:27 < fake> h0h0: the brown/red rust
00:28 < h0h0> und rot und der uebliche rost?
00:28 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813309.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
00:28 < thalerim> re
00:29 < th> h0h0: red and the common ferrum-oxid
00:29 < h0h0> brown is ferric-oxide?
00:30 < h0h0> red is ferrous oxide?
00:30 < th> h0h0: no red is a color
00:30 < h0h0> I know that :)
00:30 < th> cool
00:31 < h0h0> so, whats the difference between ferric oxide and ferrous oxide?
00:31 < th> h0h0: spelling
00:31 < h0h0> what?
00:31 < th> h0h0: the only difference is in spelling of the word "ferric" / "ferrous"
00:31 < h0h0> chemical composition is the same???
00:32 < th> h0h0: i don't know the correct english names of what i'm talking about.
00:33 < th> h0h0: but it's also known as "rust"
00:33 < h0h0> heh
00:33 < huebi> http://www.loewensenf.de/ <- fscking hot.
00:33 < h0h0> Iron-II and Iron-III
00:33 < Mike1> huebi: i thanks a lot for caring about my little effords on improving the distro, i know sometimes i bug you to much but as you already said you are the maintainer of the whole thing (also a developer i respect a lot) so your opinion about those matters is always important for me
00:34 < th> h0h0: jepp and iron-III-oxid is the red one.
00:34 < h0h0> and Iron-II-oxide is brown rust?
00:34 < th> no
00:34 < th> h0h0: the red one is brown too
00:34 < huebi> h0h0: It's black.
00:34 < th> h0h0: IIRC iron-II-oxid is black
00:34 < h0h0> ahh
00:34 < h0h0> ok
00:34 < h0h0> that works
00:35 < h0h0> damn I wish my school taught german
00:35 < h0h0> y no tengo que tomar espanol
00:35 < huebi> h0h0: or chemistry in normal life ;->
00:36 < h0h0> huebi: all my chemistry knowledge comes from one single nearly worthless class
00:36 < Mike1> h0h0: yo pense que tu hablas español
00:36 < huebi> h0h0: Ok. That explains much.
00:36 < h0h0> que es pense?
00:37 < Mike1> thought
00:37 < fake> <- Anarchist Cookbook early adopt
00:37 < Mike1> like yo pense = i thought
00:37 < h0h0> yeah
00:37 < Mike1> btw hi th :)
00:38 < huebi> <- built about 50 tube b*mbs 20 years ago...
00:38 < h0h0> pipe bombs?
00:38 < h0h0> or electrical tubes?
00:38 < huebi> h0h0: ACK
00:38 < h0h0> SYN
00:38 < huebi> pipe bombs
00:38 < fake> huebi: hehe... we have more in common than i thought ;-)
00:39 < huebi> fake: hehe
00:39 < h0h0> hmm, I thought makeing bombs out of tubes was rather strange
00:39 * fake Goethes Erben with Joachim Witt - Glasgarten
00:39 < huebi> h0h0: no, very easy
00:39 < th> jo hi Mike1
00:39 < h0h0> tubes???
00:39 < fake> huebi: do you knwo the "hellhound" ?
00:39 < h0h0> like they made ENIAC out of?
00:40 < fake> h0h0: plastic or metallic tubes of about 30 cms
00:40 < fake> h0h0: >_< noooooo
00:40 < huebi> steel tubes, of course
00:40 * Mike1 back to code
00:40 < fake> plasti has nice side effects
00:41 * h0h0 really wishes he could speak german now to find out what you are talking about
00:41 < h0h0> so these tube bombs != pipe bombs?
00:42 < huebi> h0h0: I think i mean pipes. steel pipes 1 1/4" of diametre
00:42 < fake> they are called pipe bombs, yes >-<
00:42 < h0h0> ok
00:42 * fake is uploading a nice song
00:42 < h0h0> go fake! nice songs!
00:43 < fake> hm... but it's german
00:43 < fake> huebi: did you listen into the other songs yet?
00:44 < huebi> fake: Yes. but I was almost too drunken to get it it completely.
00:45 < fake> -_-
00:47 < fake> i try not to listen to them when i'm drunk
00:47 < fake> (or otherwise intoxicated)
00:47 < h0h0> hehe, es el superusuario
00:48 < fake> they brind me down far to muchg
00:48 < h0h0> who
00:48 < fake> the songs
00:49 < h0h0> yeah, but what songs
00:49 < fake> Goethes Erben
00:49 < fake> or Joachim Witt aka Wolfsheim
00:49 < fake> both german -_-
00:50 < fake> but they are artists, not commercial songwriters
00:50 < fake> so they are pretty unknown
00:52 < huebi> NowHa. Megaherz!
00:52 < fake> Ahh... megaherz...
00:53 < fake> 65%
00:54 < th> n8
00:54 < fake> 70%
00:54 < huebi> in Mainz-Mombach - in the area where thalerim lives - there is a good hard rock club.  Ramstein and megaherz played
00:54 < huebi> cu th
00:54 < th> b*mbs... mp3-trading... you forgot googlability of what you say? ;->
00:55 < huebi> "Es ist nicht leicht ein Gott zu senn.."
00:55 < thalerim> Mombach ???
00:55 < thalerim> eh well.. i do not know the region of mainz that good :->
00:55 < fake> th: i don't care anymore -_-
00:55 < huebi> thalerim: Jo. Terminus it's called
00:55 < th> fake: thats a great idea
00:56 < th> *detach*
00:56 < fake> eh?
00:58 < fake> 95%
00:58 < fake> http://194.8.220.69/~fake/GoethesErben-Glasgarten.mp3
00:59 < fake> -finished-
00:59 < huebi> FUCK! Too drunk to drive. OK. I wait till next week in Vienna with dancing. I hope clifford makes good dancable music..
00:59 < fake> clifford doesn't like metall/rock too much, iirc
01:00 < huebi> good danceable = constant bass and the rest doesn't matter too much.
01:01 < huebi> house music is good, too. But I don't like techno.
01:02 < huebi> megaherz is very good danceable.
01:03 < huebi> A friend of mine worked for a few years as a dj. She told me that with the bass/percussions. And she is very right with that.
01:03 < fake> huebi: did you get that song above?
01:03 < fake> it's not danceable, but i really like it
01:04 < fake> the contrary voices...
01:05 < huebi> mozilla died on that song...
01:05 < fake> o_O
01:06 < fake> well, it sure is a bit depressive, but i din't mean to convince your  browser to commit suicide
01:06 < fake> wget is your friend
01:06 < huebi> fake: of course. ;-)
01:07 < fake> <- freut sich ein bisschen auf wien
01:12 < thalerim> ich geh pennen gn8
01:12 < fake> n8 thalerim
01:12 < huebi> n8 thalerim
01:12 < thalerim> 22stunden heute auf gewesen *urgs*
01:12 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813309.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("*schnarch*")
01:14 < fake> huebi: i don't want to bug you, but did you listen to the song?
01:14 < huebi> Das Grauen: ftp://ella/pub/15.Alte%20Geigen%20-%20Reprise.MP3
01:15 < huebi> its running
01:15 < huebi> fake: Piiiieeeeep.
01:16 < huebi> fake: Did sth went wrong?
01:16 < fake> eh?
01:16 < huebi> sound card trouble here
01:17 < fake> *argh* HUEBI! WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME?!??!
01:17 * fake is going insane
01:17 < huebi> now it works
01:17 < fake> GNNNN NOOOOO HAVE ... TO... STOP... IT... *ARGH*
01:18 < fake> *phew*
01:18 < fake> that was close
01:18 * fake erases 15.Alte Geigen - Reprise.MP3 with "wipe"
01:18 < huebi> the driver emu10k is not really stable...
01:19 < huebi> fake: *LOOOL*
01:19 < fake> no problems here
01:19 < huebi> <- has been to a Heino concert 18 years ago *ggg*
01:19 < fake> <- *almost* has been to a concert of the "Kelly Family"
01:20 < huebi> fake: If I kill mpg123 with ctrl-c sometimes it does not wor anymore.
01:20 < huebi> s/wor/more/
01:20 < huebi> bloedsinn.
01:20 < fake> it does not more anymore?
01:20 < fake> *g*
01:21 < fake> <- never encoutered any problems
01:21 < fake> use alsa.
01:21 < huebi> If I start mlpayer with an .avi it reinitialises well.
01:21 < huebi> alsa is fscked up in ROCK Linux.
01:25 < owl> huebi,fake: do you know cannibal corpse? or similar bands?
01:25 < fake> the amazone is alive again
01:26 < owl> fake: not really. i'm still almost dead. brain is gone :)
01:26 < huebi> owl: upload to ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/upload
01:27 < owl> eh? why?
01:27 < huebi> owl: Just do it. I want to here it.
01:27 < owl> ok. don't be shocked after listening to it ;)
01:27 < Freak> let's do the timewarp again!
01:28 < huebi> Freak: hehe
01:28 < huebi> Highheals in 47.
01:28 < Freak> (:
01:29 < fake> Es nicht meine Absicht meiner tat, den Kindern ihre traeume zu rauben, aber es wird besser sein sie zu toeten, um sie vor dem kommenden zu bewahren... Ein sanfter tod - unbemerkt - kann etwas sehr sehr schoenes sein...
01:29 < Freak> anyway
01:30 < Freak> take a jump to the left
01:30 < Freak> and then a step to the right
01:30 < Freak> :)
01:31 < fake> boy... cdparanoia is running since today morning
01:31 < huebi> fake: o_O
01:31 < fake> and just because i want some clawfinger while playing ut
01:32 < fake> huebi: cd lay in the rain 2 days and several people stepped on it
01:32 < Freak> lol
01:32 < fake> so cdparanoia takes its time...
01:32 < Freak> nice!
01:32 < Freak> that's how to handle cds
01:32 < huebi> UltraPlex
01:32 < fake> <- Plexstore UltraPlex 40x max
01:33 < huebi> Then the CD is platt.
01:33 < Freak> just don't let Phillips know
01:33 < Freak> hehe
01:33 < fake> die leute die draugestiegen sind hatten springerstiefel an, muss man dazu sagen.
01:33 < fake> <- getting another beer...
01:33 < Freak> ähm
01:33 < huebi> </AOL> me too <AOL>
01:34 < Freak> wieso das?
01:34 < fake> weil bier betaeubt?
01:34 < Freak> nein das davor
01:34 < Freak> warst in münchen?
01:34 < Freak> >:)
01:36 < fake> Freak: ich bin in MUC. aber die leute hatten springer an, weill es ne zeltparty war, und da traegt man eben feste schuhe...
01:36 < Freak> mmhh..
01:36 < fake> is auch schon 2 jahre her
01:37 < Freak> mag man so oder so sehen.
01:37 < owl> huebi: cannibal corpse - hammer smashed face... upload laeuft.
01:37 < fake> . o O ( with isdn speed )
01:37 < huebi> owl: danke
01:37 < fake> springerstiefel mit schwarzen schuhbaendern
01:37 < Freak> ja
01:37 < fake> muss ich dazusagen
01:37 < fake> weder rot noch weiss ;-)
01:37 < Freak> bei springerstiefeln geht mir trotzdem das messer in der tasche auf.
01:38 < fake> *schluck*
01:38 < owl> freak: danke.
01:38 < fake> dann stich mich auch ab, Freak
01:38 < Freak> bitte?
01:38 < Freak> ach ihr versteht mich nicht
01:38 < fake> <- springerstiefeltraeger
01:38 < Freak> bzw. falsch
01:39 < fake> was meinst denn?
01:39 < huebi> <- hat 'ne Schwester mit DocMartins.
01:39 < fake> Doc's sind springer fuer wannabes *g*
01:40 < huebi> fake: hehe
01:40 < Freak> ich mein ich halt besser meine klappe, entweder versteht ihr mich alle falsch oder ihr wollt mich falsch verstehen oder ich drück mich missverständlich aus oder wasweissich jedenfalls setze ich keine zeichen, indem ich insignien teile.
01:40 < owl> <- hat seit der 4.klasse springer ...
01:40 < fake> Freak: oh, nein, so is das nicht. fuer mich sind springer einfach schuhe.
01:40 < fake> Genau wie lederhosen
01:41 < huebi> owl: kannst du dadrin auch kaffee kochen? *LOOL*
01:41 < fake> du kaufst dir einmal springer, und das schuhe-problem ist fuer 15 Jahre oder laenger erledigt
01:41 < owl> huebi: noe.
01:41 < huebi> owl: hab' ich mir gedacht.
01:41 < fake> lederklamotten halten ein leben lang
01:42 < huebi> fake: besser Red Wing Schuhe.
01:42 < owl> huebi: auf unqualifizierte bemerkungen achte ich ab jetzt nicht mehr
01:42 < fake> ich bin marken-nicht-beachter. was is das huebi?
01:42 < fake> owl: gut das!
01:42 * Mike1 grabing 4th beer, maybe when get drunk he can understand what you guys are talking about
01:43 < owl> fake: warum denn? ;)
01:43 < Freak> hahaha :)
01:43 < fake> sorry Mike1
01:43 < Freak> Mike1: I'll fetch a drink as well now
01:43 < huebi> fake: AMI Arbeitsschuhe. halten bei uebelster Beanspruchung immer noch >2 Jahr
01:43 < fake> Mike1: about err... military boots and leather clothing and stuff
01:43 < fake> huebi: nice ;-)
01:43 < Mike1> fake: lol
01:44 < fake> that's not funny ;P
01:45 < huebi> fake: A lether throuser lasts only till the next motorcycle crash
01:45 < fake> huebi: that's a life's length *g*
01:45 < Mike1> huebi: you got a motorcycle?
01:45 < fake> if the trouser is really unreparably damaged, you're dead anyways
01:45 < huebi> Belstaff our Barbour Jackets are also very good.
01:46 < huebi> Mike1: I had 11
01:46 < Mike1> cool
01:46 < Mike1> i only have one
01:46 < fake> huebi: did you count the women you had, alos?
01:46 < fake> also
01:46 < huebi> now I have none.
01:46 < Mike1> as i race on motocross
01:46 < fake> j/k
01:46 < huebi> fake: no ;-)
01:47 * fake seriously tried to sum them up
01:47 < fake> but i always forgot some *dg*
01:47 < fake> boy... my youth was wild
01:47 < Mike1> fake: how old are u?
01:47 < fake> huebi: by the way, you might want to try "Crematory"
01:48 < fake> huebi: they are a bit like "Megaherz", just harder
01:48 < fake> Mike1: 20
01:48 < huebi> fake: souns kool
01:48 < fake> huebi: shall i... ?
01:48 < huebi> yep, please
01:48 < fake> k'
01:50 < fake> ncftp /upload > put "Crematory - Tears of time.mp3"
01:53 < Freak> scheisse wieso verkaufen die säcke eigentlich immer ungestanzte Breezer-Flaschen?
01:53 < Freak> die kriegste dann wieder nur mit der Zange auf
01:53 < Freak> son kack
01:53 < Freak> *zangesuch*
01:57 < fake> Breezer *schauder*
01:58 < fake> huebi: the first is finished
01:58 < fake> ncftp /upload > put "Crematory - Ist es wahr.mp3"
01:59 < huebi> Stoping Herzeleid...
01:59 < fake> rammstein rules, too
02:00 < Freak> fake: bier find ich eklig
02:01 < fake> Freak : wo wohnst du? *dg*
02:01 < fake> ein alien in bayern
02:02 < Freak> SEH ICH AUS WIEN BAYER?!
02:02 < Freak> NA SCHÖNEN DANK
02:02 * Freak ist und bleibt Bremer.
02:02 < fake> weiss ich nich, ich weiss ja auch nich wie du ausguggst *ph*
02:03 < Freak> also ich bin 1,87 groß, habe dunkelblondes, kurzes haar, blaugraue augen und meine hobbies sind..
02:03 < owl> *lol*
02:03 * owl schmeisst sich weg
02:03 < Freak> <owl> bremer?!?
02:03 < Freak> <Freak> WAS DAGEGEN?
02:04 < huebi> Freak: meine Frau kommt aus Bremen (wenn auch in Muenchen geboren)
02:04 < Freak> wenn du's so siehst, komme ich dann aus Pforzheim, ich bin aber Bremer.
02:04 < Freak> okay
02:04 < Freak> Exilbremer.
02:04 < fake> Freak : WAS ISDT SCHLECHT DARAN, EIN BAYER ZU SEIN?
02:04 < Freak> BAYERN STINKEN
02:04 < fake> oops. scheiss shift-lock
02:05 < Freak> hehe
02:05 < owl> freak: danke vielmals
02:05 < Freak> ausreden.
02:05 < Freak> :)
02:05 < Freak> hehehe
02:05 < fake> <- bayer
02:05 < Freak> ihr stinkt alle
02:05 < huebi> Stoop I need first a beer. RThenn I want to see blood
02:05 < Freak> hahahaha
02:05 < huebi> OK.
02:05 < owl> huebi: besser als tv oder? ;P
02:05 < huebi> ACTION!
02:05 < huebi> owl: jo
02:05 < fake> ichj stinke bestialisch
02:05 * Freak holt sich Popcorn und lehnt sich dann zurück.
02:06 < Freak> du bist ja auchn bayer
02:06 < huebi> Crematory is kool
02:06 < Freak> muahahaha
02:06 < Freak> *feindemach*
02:06 < huebi> realy kool.
02:06 < huebi> +l
02:06 < fake> huebi: wait for the next soigns ;)
02:06 < huebi> fake: ACK
02:06 < fake> >_< songs
02:07 < fake> ETA 0:25
02:07 * huebi needs a beer resistant aspell for irssi
02:07 * Freak hat sich beim versuch, die Flasche mit dem Schraubenzieher zu öffnen, am linken Zeigefinger verletzt
02:07 < fake> Freak: fingernagel eiongerissen?
02:07 < Mike1> huebi: got a link for me to get some "Crematory" songs?
02:07 < owl> Freak: selbst schuld.
02:08 < Freak> jetzt holt er sich verbrennungen und quetschungen der rechten hand-innenfläche, beim versuch, das teil aufzudrehen.
02:08 < huebi> Freak: Au scheisse
02:08 * Mike1 interested in the stuff too
02:08 < fake> huebi: "Ist es wahr" is finished
02:08 < Freak> Mike1: heh
02:08 < Freak> Mike1: fetch a translation bot or something ;)
02:08 < huebi> Mike1: Freak injures himself.
02:08 < Mike1> Freak: i understand a little german too
02:08 < Freak> isnt it to be hisself?
02:09 < Freak> I know that :)
02:09 < huebi> too dump to get a botlle opened.
02:09 < Freak> ok
02:09 < Freak> now wait
02:09 < Freak> I take pictures!
02:09 < Freak> I have PROOF
02:09 < Freak> I'm injured!
02:09 < Freak> and it burns burns burns
02:09 < Mike1> Freak: how the hell did you get injured?
02:09 < owl> Freak: you're insane. not insured.
02:09 < owl> s,insured,injured
02:10 < fake> but injured
02:10 < Mike1> owl: of course he is insane he is a Freak
02:10 < huebi> Freak: Are you a "Schlitzpisser"? - then it's herself
02:10 < fake> huebi: you are drunk
02:10 < huebi> fake: ACK.
02:10 < Mike1> talking about frunks...
02:10 * Mike1 grabs another beer
02:10 < fake> me too *eg*
02:11 < Freak> stinky bavarian fools
02:11 < Mike1> s/frunks/drunks
02:11 < huebi> <AOL> me too <AOL/>
02:11 < Freak> now I will prove my injures to yoo!
02:11 < fake> Freak: huebi is not bavarian ;P
02:11 < Mike1> Freak: how did you get injured?
02:11 < huebi> Freak: That's not really kool if you have an insurance for that.
02:12 < fake> Freak: and iut's not the beer thatr made me... like i am now ;p ;P
02:12 < Freak> I don't give shit, bavarians stink. period.
02:12 < Freak> Mike1: trying to open a bottle
02:12 < owl> Freak: no, no and finally: no!!!
02:12 < huebi> <- comes from Lower Saxony
02:12 < fake> Freak: your actions shifted you 5 points towards evil.
02:12 < Mike1> Freak: how the hell could anyone ever get hurt opening a bottle?
02:13 < Freak> Mike1: I can manage it
02:13 < Freak> and I have PROOF
02:13 < huebi> Mike1: Only real masochists can achive that.
02:13 * fake is real masochist
02:13 < Freak> Mike1: don't listen to the stinky bavarian-friend
02:13 < Mike1> huebi: actually you have to be a Freak to do it
02:14 < huebi> brb. geting more beer
02:16 < Freak> http://linuid.dhis.org/~freak/guckmal/PROOF!/
02:16 < Freak> owie.
02:16 < Freak> I'm hurt!
02:16 < Freak> and all you do is laugh!
02:17 * fake laughes even louder
02:17 < Freak> HA!
02:17 < Freak> I MANAGED IT!
02:17 < Freak> WHADDAYASAY NOW!
02:17 * Freak is godlike.
02:17 < Freak> and injured
02:17 < Freak> and unstinky.
02:17 < fake> adept - inhuman - godlike - Fre4ak
02:17 < Freak> AND THAT'S THAT!
02:17 < fake> -4
02:17 < fake> huebi: Temple of Love finished ( a Sisters of Mercy covger)
02:18 < owl> Freak: and almost dead! wait a second! /me is going to kill Freak
02:18 < Freak> stinky bavarian dirn, komm nur
02:18 < owl> Freak: shut up!
02:18 < fake> dirndl ;)
02:19 < owl> fake: w0s?
02:19 * fake stellt sich owl im dirndl vor
02:19 < Mike1> Freak: wanna hear a story about an injury?
02:20 < huebi> owl: wearing a "dirndl" and Armyboots - good picture *g*
02:20 < Freak> altho it was overwhelming, I wasn't able to take stinking-samples from bavaria.
02:20 < Freak> Mike1: yezz pleeez
02:20 * fake is a live sample
02:20 < Freak> cheers, stinky bavarians and fellow-sufferers
02:20 < owl> huebi: omg!! never!
02:21 < owl> armybots - yes. but no "dirndl"
02:21 < huebi> owl: Not even for a joke?
02:21 < owl> huebi: no.
02:21 < fake> but i like girls waering dirndls *g*
02:21 < huebi> and red pumps?
02:21 < owl> fake: *lol*
02:21 < owl> fake: you should ask my grandma... might she 'll do it :PPP
02:21 < Mike1> 3 years ago i was on Mountain Bike race, got of the trail and went down a 60mts hill full of rocks and trees. i broke my left shoulder, my arm, hurt my neck, i had to get a surgery on my spine, so thats wht i call an ijure
02:22 < Mike1> injure*
02:22 < huebi> owl: Only fresh virgin meat is accepted
02:22 < owl> huebi: haha! forget it.
02:22 < fake> <- made first almost-death experiences with 9 yrs
02:22 < Mike1> and thats not counting the scratches, and other small hurts i had that also hurt as hell
02:23 < fake> huebi: i need virgin mat at for other things *eg*
02:23 < fake> meat for, that is
02:23 < huebi> owl: You will never be as nasty as you try to be. hehe
02:24 < owl> huebi: why do you think so?
02:24 < huebi> Mike1: That sound really bad.
02:24 < Freak> http://linuid.dhis.org/~freak/guckmal/PROOF!/.cache/100x75-Verletzung%20-%20verdeutlichende%20Darstellung.jpg
02:24 < Freak> oopsie
02:24 < Freak> http://linuid.dhis.org/~freak/guckmal/PROOF!/Verletzung%20-%20verdeutlichende%20Darstellung.jpg
02:25 < Freak> that is: Verletzung - verdeutlichende Darstellung.
02:25 < Mike1> huebi: yeah but i am totally recovered now :)
02:25 < huebi> Mike1: That's really great.
02:25 < huebi> nice toi hear that.
02:26 < fake> i think i will nevebr recover
02:26 < huebi> Freak: I want blood! This is just for wimps. The finger is not cut of. So please shut up.
02:27 < huebi> fake: You're right. But only after we arrived in vienna. hehe
02:27 < Mike1> perhaps fake is got a knife and wanna bring some real blood out of Freak's finger
02:27 < Freak> huebi: IT IS BLEEDING!
02:27 < fake> if'd never hurt somebody else first
02:27 < Freak> I have a monstrously big pflaster on it now!
02:27 < Mike1> huebi: thanks, it took me just a few months for me to feel ok and get on my bike again :)
02:27 < fake> huebi: i dopn't think you can shock me
02:28 < fake> huebi: and "Das Licht in dir" just fnished
02:28 < fake> and that's it for now
02:28 < Freak> and it's itching!
02:28 < Freak> it HURRRRTS!
02:28 < Freak> dammit
02:28 < Freak> stinky bavarians
02:28 * Mike1 wornder if someone will ever give him some "Crematory" songs
02:28 < Freak> stinky bavarians don't know PAIN yet
02:28 < Freak> *braaaaaaiiiiins*
02:29 < Mike1> Freak: dont be chicken shit is just a little injure :)
02:29 < huebi> Freak: It is only bleeding when blood comes out in the rythem of yopur heard.
02:29 < owl> Freak: what do you want? brain? oh i see *vbeg*
02:30 < Freak> owl: Freak no wantin yoo. owl brain tWoo schmall!
02:30 < fake> Freak: you think i don't know pain?
02:30 < Freak> bavarians will FEELZ the PAIIIN
02:30 < Freak> when I getcha BRAAAAAAAINS
02:31 < fake> *shakes head*
02:31 < fake> b4k4
02:34 < Mike1> Freak: you got a problem with bavarians?
02:34 < huebi> Mike1: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/pub/music/
02:35 < owl> Mike1: not yet, but he will become a big problem if he won't shut up :P
02:35 < fake> when shall i become my beefsteak, waiter?
02:35 < fake> I hope never sir
02:36 < fake> become = werden, to get = bekommen
02:36 < Freak> Mike1: me wanz them braaaaaaaains
02:36 < huebi> Freak: I got the brain out of a cow. was quite interestin. You have to stirr the grey mass very well inside the head to get it out of the base of the scull.
02:36 < fake> huebi: o_O why did you do that?
02:37 < huebi> I wanted to have a cow skull.
02:37 < Mike1> huebi: thanks :)
02:37 < huebi> *flump* next beer.
02:37 < owl> fake: thx.
02:37 < fake> was is a female cow? then it's ok.
02:37 < Mike1> owl: is from bavaria too?
02:37 < owl> Mike1: yeah.
02:38 < Mike1> huebi: where are you from?
02:38 < huebi> owl: <- "Out Of Rosenheim"
02:38 < owl> huebi: nooooo!
02:38 < fake> Neuburg
02:38 < fake> Newcastle *g*
02:38 < huebi> owl: You are not a fat ugly dump bitch?
02:38 < Freak> huebi: lol
02:38 < fake> we once had a good public gothic party there...
02:38 < Freak> hey!
02:39 < Freak> this movie is great!
02:39 < Freak> don't make fun of it
02:39 < owl> huebi: who knows
02:39 < huebi> Freak: ACK
02:39 < huebi> owl: URL of a photo of you?
02:39 < fake> "Kinder der Nacht"... Dark Angels Party I im Marstall
02:39 < owl> huebi: the only things i know are that i'm insane, stupid, a NULL and so on.
02:40 < owl> huebi: http://www.closeup.de/articles/large/737180.jpg
02:40 < fake> the Marstall Neuburg really is acool location
02:40 < owl> fake: why do you think so?
02:40 < huebi> owl: and I never believe that untill you forced my logic thinking to believe you.
02:40 < Freak> shit I don't find that comic..
02:40 < Freak> anymore..
02:40 < Freak> shit shit shit
02:41 < huebi> owl: I don't *click* on that. dcc one.
02:41 < fake> owl: because it's big, it's dark, it looks like an old castle hallway, and - it's empty!
02:41 < owl> huebi: forget it.
02:42 < fake> almost looks like a mausoleum from the inside
02:42 < owl> fake: yeah. but i guess the castle is much more great... or do you know the "catacombs" in "speyrer dom"?
02:42 < fake> . o O ( and with a working nebular machine )
02:42 < huebi> owl: do you come to vienna? or are you too "schuechtern"?
02:42 < Freak> shy
02:42 < fake> huebi: wir koennten sie entfuehren, ich weiss wo sie wohnt
02:42 < huebi> Freak: thanks
02:42 < fake> *eg*
02:43 < huebi> fake: Yes.
02:43 < huebi> Good idea.
02:43 < Freak> mich wollte sie nicht mal in icq adden und ihr wisst schon wo sie wohnt.. tsäs
02:43 < owl> huebi: a) ich bin mkein dev von rock b) meine eltern wuerden mich _nie_ lassen c) weiss ich noch nicht ob ich arbeiten muss (auch wen ich urlaub habe) d) schuechtern e) wie soll ich dahin kommen?
02:44 < owl> Freak: *lol* ja. fake kenne ich auch aus dem RL.
02:44 < fake> a) schnauze b) bring sie um c) tus einfach nicht d) mei e) mit huebi und mir *g*
02:44 < owl> fake: sicher, dass ich die fahrt ueberleben wuerde? ;)
02:45 < fake> kommt drauf an ob du lebend einsteigst
02:45 < Freak> owl: omg
02:45 < owl> fake: *g* noe, in meinem zustand ned lebending einsteigend :)
02:46 < Freak> also ihr müsst jetzt alle wach bleiben
02:46 < Freak> damit ich nach dem comic suchen kann
02:46 < fake> wiefo?
02:46 < huebi> owl: If you're not stinking you can come with us.
02:46 < Freak> der mein BRAAAAAAINS erklärt ;)
02:46 < fake> www.megatokyo.com DER COMIC
02:47 < huebi> ROCK Linux - the best text adventure
02:48 < fake> ROCK Linux - the best sex adventure ( fuer moenche )
02:49 < fake> huebi: but i stink
02:49 < Freak> yup
02:49 < Freak> stinky bavarian
02:49 < owl> Freak: ...
02:50 < fake> Freak: i hate bavarians, too...especially me.
02:50 < Freak> what, stinky bavarian girl who doesnt add me?
02:50 < Freak> guys pleeeeeze just don't take me serious ;)
02:50 < huebi> fake: real men do stink. Only wimps ignore that.
02:51 < owl> Freak: here! /me doesn't add you!
02:51 < Freak> yoo meen bavarian woman also stinky non-wimpy men?
02:51 < Freak> owl: you have yes also all ground.
02:51 < huebi> *LOOOL*
02:51 < fake> i'm not a real man. i don't even have a motorcycle. how could i be a man?
02:52 < Freak> how?
02:52 < Freak> you still stink ;)
02:53 < owl> Freak: how many bottles of beer did you drunk today?
02:53 < fake> wobei ich vor dem bayerischen bildungsministerium den hut ziehe - nachdem ich in NRW auf der schule war
02:53 < huebi> fake: just writ 816 on a wall - replaces a motorbike
02:53 < fake> 816 ?
02:53 < fake> BIG ?
02:54 < huebi> Hells Angel Forever.
02:54 < huebi> +s
02:54 < fake> 816 ? how is that ment to become HAF ?
02:54 < Freak> owl: I do not drink stinky beer.
02:55 < owl> Freak: ....
02:56 < huebi> <- has been working as cheif engineer at Buell Germany (now a Harley Davidson Company) for 2 years.
02:56 < huebi> Freak: not drunken and that confused? .oO
02:57 < Freak> that is: normalzustand.
02:59 < huebi> Freak: hmm..
03:01 * fake Silke Bischof - Hold Me
03:02 < huebi> fake: URL?
03:02 < fake> hehe
03:02 < fake> i'll upload it
03:02 < fake> last song for today
03:02 < huebi> fake: dankoe
03:03 < fake> huebi: i'll tkae my mp3 collection along to vienna ;)
03:03 < huebi> kool. And I take a few tape drives with me.
03:03 < fake> Welcome to FTP service for thalerim. ?
03:04 * owl will go to bed right now.
03:04 < owl> cu later. gn8
03:04 < fake> n8 owl!
03:04 < huebi> owl: scwaechlest du etwa?
03:04 < huebi> nacht owl
03:04 < fake> Koffeeinallergikerin *g*
03:05 < huebi> fake: hehe
03:05 < owl> haha. ich habe die letzten wochen so viel von dem zeug genommen, mir ist uebel nur noch davon...
03:05 < owl> aber egal. urlaub -> kein koffein. -> schlafen. ciao
03:05 < fake> ciao
03:06 < fake> huebi: is you connection somehow overused?
03:06 < Mike1> n8 owl
03:06 < huebi> in this moment not
03:06 < fake> ah, now
03:06 < huebi> sleep well owl.
03:06 < huebi> come to vienna.
03:07 < huebi> huebi@zeus:~$ find . -name "*mp3" |wc -l
03:07 < huebi> 15417
03:09 < huebi> I bring my mp3's and mpg's also to  Vienna
03:09 < fake> br1ng j00r 0wn pr0n p4rty ?
03:10 < fake> hehe. smp will come. so there will be lots of pr0n *eg*
03:10 < huebi> *LooL8
03:10 * Mike1 regrets not to be able to go to wien :((
03:10 < fake> Mike1: why not?
03:10 < huebi> I think "lolita" has not so much disk space
03:11 < fake> +rofl* lolita
03:11 < fake> that was my idea, IIRC ;-)
03:11 < Mike1> fake: if i go now i wont be able to be at 19c3
03:12 < fake> Mike1 : oh.... then go to 19c3. there will be more rock people there.
03:12 < Mike1> fake: and also my boss has been a little paranoid so he wouldnt let me have some vacation now
03:12 < Mike1> fake: for sure
03:12 < Mike1> fake: actually i will go to 19c3 then i go visit some friends in augsburg and places around
03:12 < huebi> Mike1: 19C3 is very interesting. More People but all in german.
03:13 < fake> augsburg? kewl! thats like 60 km from my place XD
03:13 < Mike1> huebi: you mean all conferences and papers in german?
03:13 < Mike1> and people speaking ONLY german?
03:13 < Mike1> fake: ich wiess
03:13 < Mike1> i might get to visit you when i go to esden's
03:14 < fake> Mike1: the rock folk will speak enghlish when you are around
03:14 < huebi> Mike1: Most people are speaking also englih. but the  conferences are in german.
03:14 < fake> but the default language there is german, until someone begs for english
03:14 < Freak> AHHH ICH HAB DEN COMIC GEFUNDEN!
03:14 < Mike1> huebi: no problem fake will translate for me
03:14 < Mike1> *eg*
03:14 < fake> o_O
03:14 < huebi> hehe
03:15 < fake> to prtuguesae *g*
03:15 * Mike1 will beg for english
03:15 < Mike1> fake: eu fallo portuguess :)
03:15 < Mike1> but my mother language is spanish
03:15 < fake> mi casa es su casa
03:15 < huebi> Well  I know a Gilr from CR. Perhaps she wants to do that.
03:15 < Mike1> huebi: cool she lives there?
03:15 < fake> asstamaniana
03:16 < Freak> not closely....
03:16 < Mike1> fake: actually hasta mañana :)
03:16 < fake> Que?
03:16 < Freak> give me another 5mins
03:16 < huebi> Mike1: about 250km from Berlin.
03:16 < huebi> or 200
03:16 < fake> Mike1: i only heard it from a spanish friend...
03:16 < Mike1> huebi: she'll be there?
03:17 < huebi> Mike1: I don't think so.
03:17 < huebi> sorry
03:17 < Mike1> fake: lol my accept is way TOO different from some one who lives in Spain
03:17 < fake> huebi: Silke Bischoff - Hold Me.mp3 has finished
03:17 < Mike1> huebi: oh ok
03:18 < Freak> GOTCHA
03:18 < Freak> http://www.altbrand.com/solitaryconfinement/destructo03.php
03:18 < Mike1> huebi: i finished to apply the patched for gnome2 i had sent, now i will include the rest of the packages
03:18 * fake watched Apocalypse Now! yesterday
03:19 < fake> i throwed myself away
03:19 < Freak> threw
03:19 < fake> "I love the smell of napalm in the morning"
03:19 < Freak> >;P
03:19 < fake> Freak: snobbish bremer
03:19 < Freak> stinky bavarian fool
03:19 < Freak> will eat.. BRAAAAAAAINS
03:21 < fake> ...
03:21 < fake> wannabe :P
03:22 < huebi> fake: I had to work with a man involved in that war "very interesting" experience.
03:23 < fake> huebi: they all went mad...
03:24 < huebi> fake: ACK.
03:24 < huebi> Very bay for the US to kill all their souls.
03:24 < fake> huebi: do you know apocalypse now?
03:24 < huebi> fake: Yes.
03:25 < huebi> s/bay/bad
03:25 < fake> "Charlie - surft - nicht !"
03:25 < huebi> music by "Wagner"
03:26 < fake> YES
03:26 < fake> i really laughed my ass off
03:26 < Mike1> huebi: i now have the crematory songs thank you so much
03:26 < fake> but the end is ueber-psycho
03:26 < huebi> Mike1: you're welcome.
03:26 < huebi> ;-)
03:26 < fake> Mike1: what do you say?
03:26 < fake> do you like that kind of music?
03:28 < huebi> War is absolutly not normal. To survive it many soldiers had to become insane.
03:29 < fake> huebi: yes. it's self-protection
03:29 < Mike1> fake: hell yeah
03:30 < Mike1> fake: got some more of this stuff for me?
03:30 < fake> Mike1: my connection is really crappy here
03:31 < huebi> fake: owls it worse
03:31 < Mike1> fake: :(
03:31 < fake> Mike1: i don't have anymore good Crematory songs
03:31 < fake> at least i don't think the others are equally good
03:31 < Mike1> you guys maybe we could have an agreement to help eachother
03:32 < Mike1> i could provide some space on my station on weekends so anyone here could donwload and upload stuff
03:32 < Mike1> i have a t1 so it could be fast enought to share
03:32 < Mike1> what do you say?
03:33 < fake> sw33t
03:34 < fake> i'll start uploading when i'm back to work ....
03:34 < fake> ... my firm is now officially bankrupt, by the way
03:34 < fake> we will stop business by 30. Aug 2002
03:34 < fake> -_-
03:34 < fake> and i'll go to bed now
03:35 < fake> <- still has no real bed
03:35 < Mike1> fake: ok
03:35 < huebi> fake reminds me to get my field bed to vienna
03:35 < Mike1> n8 fake
03:35 < huebi> cu fake
03:35 < huebi> fake: sleep well
03:35 < fake> huebi: yeah, i thought about that right now, too ;-)
03:36 < fake> thanks, sleep even better you two
03:36 < Mike1> huebi: how many hours a day do you sleep?
03:36 < fake> and you too, Berner snob ;P
03:36 < huebi> Mike1: about 5 to 6
03:36 < fake> *detach*
03:39 < Mike1> huebi: how come i sleep 3 - 4 and even like that you are always here when i log in and whn i log out?
03:41 < Freak> hmm
03:44 < huebi> </AOL> hmm too <AOL>
03:58 < huebi> Mike1: I don't know. But I go to slep soon now,
03:58 < Mike1> huebi: sure my friend
03:59 < Mike1> have some very nice sleep :)
03:59 < huebi> rock-debug now builds. then I create a new cd Image.
03:59 < huebi> <- has to setup his gatway
03:59 < Mike1> cool
04:00 < huebi> Mike1: when Will Gnome2 be tested?
04:00 < Mike1> todays
04:01 < Mike1> i am just finishing to add a few packages that i am missing
04:01 < huebi> kool
04:01 < Mike1> i guess there will be some broken packages so i will be working around the conf files tomorrow
04:01 < Mike1> as i wont be online anyways
04:02 < Mike1> on monday i will get in touch with you and tell you how did i go
04:02 < Mike1> and let [anders] test my tree with all the stuff i made untill that
04:02 < Mike1> how does that sound to you?
04:03 < Mike1> even if you like i can let you have the private tree as well
04:03 < huebi> very nice. In Vienna Gnome2 could be finished I think.
04:04 < Mike1> is the meeting next weekend?
04:05 < huebi> from the 7th to the 11th
04:05 < Mike1> that gives me and [anders] one week
04:06 < huebi> and the time there, too
04:06 < Mike1> huebi: i will work as hard as posible on this and as you said we could have gnome2 finished by then
04:07 < Mike1> and included on cvs on the other week if everything works good enought
04:07 < huebi> Mike1: I think so, too
04:07 < Mike1> huebi: if we succeed on this we will go for evolution and multi cd stuff :)
04:08 < huebi> great
04:09 < Mike1> funny thing i was hesitating on working on already released snaps now i am working on a private tree with untested stuff and feel confident
04:10 < Mike1> huebi: you have been teaching me a lot thank you
04:10 < huebi> Mike1: I was a great pleasure to teach you that things.
04:11 < huebi> Mike1: Thank you to let me do it.
04:12 < Mike1> huebi: of course Master :)
04:12 < Mike1> just hope you still keep teaching me
04:12 < Mike1> i think i have made a lot of progress during the past few weeks
04:12 < Mike1> thought thats only my point of view
04:13 < huebi> Mike1: Yes, you did.
04:13 < Mike1> hopefully working around gnome2 well help more :)
04:18 < Mike1> excellent 26 gnome2 packages ready to be tested, still missing 35 though :(
04:18 < huebi> Mike1: look good.
04:20 < Mike1> huebi: mmm yeah but i dont think i will finish with all if them tonight
04:20 < Mike1> ahh .. i will keep working a few more hours :)
04:21 < huebi> here apmd and kdepim fails. But thats all.
04:22 < Mike1> nice
04:33 < huebi> good night. I go to sleep
04:33 < Mike1> nacht huebi
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05:37 < Mike1> re h0h0
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05:56 < Mike1> hi FooJam
05:56 < FooJam> speaking of CVS
05:56 < FooJam> Hola
05:57 < Mike1> FooJam: ?
05:57 < FooJam> thought id ask this
05:57 < Mike1> sure whats up?
05:57 < FooJam> I use Tortoise now, but looking for a CVS server that supports SSH2 PKA know of any?
05:58 < FooJam> prob not the area to ask but i saw the CVS reference hehe
05:58 < FooJam> just tell me to go away if its not :)
05:58 < Mike1> FooJam: not sure
05:59 < FooJam> k
05:59 < FooJam> well thought id ask, be cool
05:59 < Mike1> but i think it is supported on any
05:59 < FooJam> k
05:59 < Mike1> i use rsync and it is possible
05:59 < Mike1> but i have not much experience with cvs sorry
05:59 < FooJam> you tried, least you had a pulse :) Many dont
05:59 < FooJam> peace
05:59 < Mike1> have a look at the cvs doc you may find ur answer there
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08:55 < huebi> moin Mike1
08:56 < Mike1> mojn huebi :)
08:56 < Mike1> moin*
08:57 < Mike1> sleeped well my friend?
08:59 < huebi> yes. And too short and too much beer yesterday.
09:04 < Mike1> lol
09:04 < Mike1> i run out of beer about an hour ago
09:04 < Mike1> thought i didnt get drunk
09:05 < Mike1> right night i am fetching private tree sources and fixing gnome2 cksum-errors
09:08 < huebi> I'm fixing install-disks
09:08 < Mike1> good
09:08 < huebi> too much stuff for the installdisk
09:08 < Mike1> btw are you still going to create install disks with support for reiserfs and ext3?
09:08 < Mike1> i am pretty interested on those
09:08 < huebi> Mike1: yes, of course.
09:09 < Mike1> good
09:09 < Mike1> because i am sure that once we get them a lot more production servers will run rock
09:11 < huebi> Yes. for a production server a journaled fs is a must.
09:11 < Mike1> i know very well that many people think that we are adding to much features, but honestely i dont want the "old style build" to simply disapear when 1.6.0 is released, i would like it to continue as a pararell work, even if only a few us use it and work on it
09:13 < huebi> Mike1: That's also my intention. The time till 1.7 get usable and the even longer time till it gets stable will be too long. And not all features of 1.7 are needed for a good "Distribution Build Kit"
09:14 < Mike1> huebi: definitly
09:15 < Mike1> its funny but i believe that we are pretty much turning to the right way with the ideas that we have for the future and the ones that have been achived already
09:16 < huebi> ACK.
09:16 < Mike1> i have great spectatives the results that we will have :)
09:19 < Mike1> i know that i am not as skilled as you or [anders] are or even as a lot of people here are, but i think i am just starting to cooperate, and that there is a lot of work that i can contribute with
09:20 < huebi> Mike1: We still have a very good results. And I can see if there is more direct guidance of the user directly from the scripts, ROCK Linux will be more easy to use and then also get many more users.
09:21 < Mike1> ACK
09:23 < huebi> Mike1: You just have other skills and you actually do sth on ROCK Linux. And only that counts. If you have questions about ROCK it's a problem of ROCK not to have taken care of your skill level and not your problem;-)
09:24 < Mike1> lol
09:25 < Mike1> so i can actually blame the 1.5 tree maintainer whn i dont understand something?
09:25 * Mike1 *evil grin*
09:25 < huebi> Mike1: Yep and the people who wrote the code.
09:26 < Mike1> oh well i feel more confident and oriented withthe time
09:26 < Mike1> i no longer feel lost
09:27 < Mike1> i know how to fix the common problems and pretty much how everything works around
09:27 < Mike1> well thats because i have a great master :)
09:27 < huebi> Einstein said  a long time ago sth like this: "Really good things are easy." And he was fscking right with that.
09:29 < Mike1> huebi: yeah some people believe that the only way rock can become easy is be turning it into another userfriendly ""distro"", i certainly dont share this option, i believe that if things are well commented and the code is clean, anyone can work around easilly, without been an experienced linux guy
09:30 < huebi> ACK. Only a few things are needed to be known then.
09:32 < Mike1> yup which is exactly the way that we are going to :)
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09:48 < Mike1> moin snyke
09:49 < snyke> moin
09:50 < huebi> moin snyke
10:03 < blindcoder> moin everyone
10:03 < huebi> hi blindcoder
10:04 < Mike1> hi blindcoder
10:05 < blindcoder> hi Mike1, huebi
10:08 < blindcoder> a kernel build on a SS20 takes quite some time...
10:08 < huebi> blindcoder: joo..
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10:09 < nAdIA> H!
10:09 < Mike1> welcome nAdIA
10:09 < nAdIA> Buenas madrugadas
10:09 < blindcoder> hi nAdIA
10:10 < nAdIA> aa exelente
10:10 < Mike1> nAdIA: actually 90% of the people her are from germany
10:10 < Mike1> so its 10am over there
10:11 < nAdIA> ok here  3:05 AM =)
10:11 < huebi> hi nAdIA. Where are you from?
10:12 < nAdIA> im colombian
10:12 < huebi> Thank you nAdIA
10:12 < huebi> I'm german
10:13 < nAdIA> good!, nice to meet you
10:13 < huebi> nice to meet you, too.
10:13 < Mike1> huebi: nAdIA is trying to get more information regarding rock
10:13 < Mike1> perhaps you might wanna give her one of those nice explanations that only you can give :)
10:14 < huebi> nAdIA, Mike1: OK just ask. ;-)
10:17 < Mike1> huebi: how are you doing with the install-disks?
10:17 < huebi> still too big
10:18 < Mike1> mmm... size = ?
10:19 < huebi> 2830 blocks with fs
10:20 < huebi> only 10 blocks are left. Thats not enough for lilo to write the map
10:36 < Mike1> huebi: mmm true
10:36 < Mike1> what are you adding on it?
10:39 < huebi> the new kernel is bigger.
10:40 < Mike1> perhaps some stuff could be removed?
10:40 < nAdIA> yep
10:41 < Mike1> huebi: also i dont know if you are currenlty working on the install-disks with support for reiserfs and ext3 but i think we should keep each one of then independant
10:41 < huebi> Mike1: ACK.
10:41 < Mike1> otherwise the bzImage will be huge!
10:42 < huebi> In the moment I just want to have a bootable CD
10:42 < Mike1> <AOL> me too </AOL>
10:44 < huebi> I kicked out the SCSI modules. now it's small enough.
10:44 < nAdIA> byte byte
10:44 < nAdIA> see Ya!
10:44 < Mike1> gutte nacht nAdIA
10:44 < huebi> cu nAdIA
10:44 < huebi> sleep well nAdIA
10:44 < nAdIA> thx huebi
10:45 * Mike1 is 1/2 a bit sleepy , getting a red bull can :)
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10:48 < Mike1> so i guess we'll have to make another adiational image for scsi support
10:50 < huebi> Mike1: Well, it needs something new. I think about it later.
10:53 < Mike1> ja
11:00 < Mike1> huebi: when we make multicd install, would you like to add kde and gnome to the cd2 ?
11:00 < Mike1> note that cd2 != ext
11:09 < huebi> Mike1: This is now the size of the CD: 286256 extents written (559 Mb)
11:09 < Mike1> mm...
11:10 < huebi> I removed rescue, rfc and some Xfree86 docs.
11:10 < Mike1> ah i see
11:10 < huebi> I put back the XFree86 docs
11:10 < Mike1> very nice :)
11:11 < huebi> If we get a full featured rescue system on the bootable CD we have all we need I think.
11:11 < Mike1> yes
11:12 < huebi> Only a few more boot images are needed to get the CD booted everywhere
11:12 < Mike1> true
11:12 < Mike1> and a few utils in root disks :)
11:13 < huebi> There can also be a netboot/install image on it
11:13 < Mike1> eg mkreiserfs and and ext3 :)
11:13 < huebi> The CD can also be booted as a netinstall server.
11:13 < Mike1> huebi: i have been thinking about netinstall too, even metion it a couple of times but no one cared, glad you want it to be done :)
11:13 < huebi> The Whole CD can be the root. Then we have plenty of space on it.'
11:14 < Mike1> yeah thats cool
11:15 < huebi> We only need several boot images on it because the harddisk emulation of many CD-ROMs does not work fine.
11:16 < huebi> But floppy boot almost everytime succides
11:17 < Mike1> yup
11:18 < huebi> We first will boot off of a floppy(-image), mount then the CDROM as /
11:20 < Mike1> err .... always necesary to use floppys?
11:21 * Mike1 would prefer to boot directly from cd
11:21 < huebi> I prefer it, too
11:22 < huebi> But floppy images are the start of it.
11:22 < Mike1> you mean as a temporary solution?
11:22 < huebi> No
11:23 < huebi> On a bootable CDROM is just a floppy image which is booted
11:23 < Mike1> mm...
11:23 < huebi> 1.44MB and 2.88MB (old IBM floppy format) are possible.
11:25 < Mike1> huebi: i guess but i still dont like the idea of booting from floppies ...
11:26 < huebi> A cdrom boot emulates a floppy drive. So the same image can be used for booting off of a cd and off of a floppy.
11:26 < Mike1> ok thats much better :)
11:27 < huebi> Mike1: Sorry that I did not express it as clear as nessesary
11:27 < Mike1> huebi: no its ok, is just that i am a little sleepy
11:28 < Mike1> its almost 4 am here and i have hardly sleep 2-3 hours in the past 2 days
11:29 < huebi> hmm. I suggest sleep ;-)
11:33 < Mike1> huebi: yeah but in a few more hours
11:33 < Mike1> i want to finish a few morethings before i go to bed
11:34 < Mike1> other wise i will not be able sleep with all that code in my head
11:34 < Mike1> :)
11:38 < huebi> ;-)
11:57 < huebi> Mike1: Do you like the music of Lisa Stansfield?
11:58 < Mike1> never heard her, but if you have something for me i can hear it and tell you :)
11:59 * huebi ripping...
11:59 * Mike1 waiting
12:04 < owl> good morning
12:04 * huebi compiling lame
12:04 * owl is going to kill her father. *argh*
12:04 < Mike1> moin owl
12:04 < huebi> good morning owl ;-)
12:04 < huebi> owl: which gun do you prefer for that?
12:05 < Mike1> huebi: a cup of coffee of course
12:05 < owl> i still don't know. maybe (how is it called in half life) i guess it's the sniper...???
12:05 < owl> Mike1: no, that takes too much time
12:06 < Mike1> not for you :)
12:06 < huebi> "Shot by a cup of coffee" nice
12:06 < owl> wuah. how stupid can a human be? see my father. he even can't use windows 98 with office installed! damn, damn, damn!!!
12:07 * owl is running against a wall and hopes her brain will be destroyed by this
12:07 < huebi> http://users.intercomm.com/agw/paula-wr.jpg <- owl
12:09 < huebi> owl: I can't use Windows, too. *g* I can only use unix
12:09 < Mike1> huebi: what is windows?
12:09 < huebi> http://users.intercomm.com/agw/flame1.jpg <- father strikes back
12:10 < huebi> Mike1: This stuff to close holes in walls
12:10 < owl> huebi: yeah.  but if my father would have to use *nix, then he would kill me! damn!
12:10 < Mike1> huebi: ah
12:11 < owl> huebi: *loooooooooool*
12:11 < Mike1> also i have heard it is like suse but with a bunch more of bugs and very limited, how true is this?
12:12 < owl> more bugs... no. you can't say this.
12:12 < huebi> SuXE is a GPL Windows.
12:12 * owl listens to: subway to sally - traum vom tod
12:13 < Mike1> huebi: what some crappy thing named Lindows?
12:13 < owl> how stupid can a man be... wow! incredible, if you see my father. i wake up when he screamed.!!!
12:14 * owl is away: breakfast
12:14 < Mike1> enjoy owl
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12:19 < blindcoder> rehi
12:19 < Mike1> re blindcoder
12:20 < huebi> huhu blindcoder
12:26 < huebi> Mike1: I found a good solution to rip audio cds. rip, lame and cdparanoia. Kool think
12:27 < huebi> s/k/g/
12:29 < th> moin
12:31 < Mike1> hello tobias
12:31 < huebi> Mahlzeit th
12:32 < Mike1> huebi: what does "Mahlzeit" mean?
12:32 < Mike1> huebi: nice ripping stuff :)
12:33 < huebi> last track...
12:35 < huebi> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/pub/music/faceup/
12:35 < Mike1> huebi: how do you say "do you speak spanish?" in german?
12:36 < huebi> "Sprechen Sie spanisch?"
12:36 < Mike1> huebi: danke
12:55 < owl> re
12:56 < owl> hi blindcoder
12:56 < huebi> re owl
13:00 < blindcoder> hi owl
13:03 < Mike1> huebi:
13:03 < Mike1> mike@alicia:/mnt/devel/rock-private$ ./scripts/Download -passive-ftp -base
13:03 < Mike1> mike@alicia:/mnt/devel/rock-private$
13:03 < huebi> Mike1: yes?
13:03 < Mike1> :) now i have all the sources with cksums fixed
13:04 < Mike1> all gnome2 packages included
13:04 < Mike1> time to start testing :)
13:05 < huebi> Great. Gnome2 gets on it's way into ROCK Linux.
13:06 < Mike1> huebi: of course :)
13:06 < Mike1> huebi: it's already time for me to do something important for rock :)
13:28 < blindcoder> #monster
13:28 < blindcoder> n
13:28 < blindcoder> You're Breath fo Fire bounces.
13:28 < blindcoder> The hobbit is killed
13:28 < Mike1> blindcoder: ???
13:29 * blindcoder just ate some "Hot" Chicken Wings
13:29 < Mike1> ah i see :)
13:29 < Mike1> enjoy
13:45 < Mike1> huebi: i finally got all the music thanks
13:46 * Mike1 going home to start gnome2 testing and get A LOT of sleep
13:46 < huebi> Mike1: you're wlecome. enjoy
13:46 < Mike1> huebi: i will
13:46 < Mike1> have a nice day
13:46 < Mike1> bye
13:46 < huebi> sleep well Mike1
13:46 < huebi> bye
13:46 < Mike1> I WILL :)
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15:31 < fake> boo
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15:34 < esden> morning
15:34 < Freak> moin
15:35 < owl> moin
15:36 < fake> moin snobbish bremer
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16:01 < blindcoder> servus
16:02 < owl> re blindcoder
16:02 < blindcoder> re owl
16:02 < fake> tach stinky-bavarian-colleague blindcoder
16:02 < blindcoder> fake: it's a pleasure :)
16:03 < blindcoder> okay, after 4 hours of downloading I'm almost finished getting all sources...
16:03 < blindcoder> now I only need an uptime of several weeks to compile ROCK
16:03 < fake> o_O of what machine?
16:04 < blindcoder> SparcStation 20
16:04 < fake> blindcoder: 1.5 or 1.7 compile?
16:05 < blindcoder> 1.5
16:05 < blindcoder> I want to be able to INSTALL it afterwards
16:05 < fake> ah, good choice for sparc ;-)
16:05 < fake> blindcoder: i have 1.7 running here
16:05 < fake> but the sparc port is pretty alpha in 1.7
16:05 < blindcoder> or... *incoherentmumbling*
16:05 < blindcoder> I could compile it @ work
16:06 < fake> under solaris? *eg*
16:07 < blindcoder> no, redhat
16:07 < fake> rathead :-/
16:07 < blindcoder> we have one or two redhats lying around
16:07 < blindcoder> I don't think it will compile under solaris :)
16:08 < fake> why not debian ?
16:08 < blindcoder> cause redhat is commercial and debian is not
16:08 < blindcoder> you can spend money on it and blame them if it does not work
16:08 < fake> so rathead is for whiners *g*
16:09 < blindcoder> It wasn't my choice, was it?
16:09 < fake> i didn't imply that
16:09 < blindcoder> besides: I'm the only one really knowing what to do on Linux
16:09 < blindcoder> okay, now NFS-export the source and compile it on the SS20
16:09 < blindcoder> damn tha t 2GB drive
16:10 < fake> makes you a valuable emplyoee
16:10 < blindcoder> sure :)
16:15 < blindcoder> damn it... what debian packages do i need to be able to mount an nfs-share
16:16 < fake> that should be in base o_O
16:16 < fake> portmap, mountd ?
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16:17 < bluefire> Hi
16:17 < blindcoder> sundance:/usr/remote# mount 192.168.43.2:/usr/remote/rocksparc/ rocksparc/
16:17 < blindcoder> mount: RPC: Program not registered
16:17 < blindcoder> hi bluefire
16:17 < th> blindcoder: consider running portmap,and nfsd
16:18 < blindcoder> so i need the nfs-server to mount shares from another server?
16:19 < th> i do NOT know what you need.
16:19 < blindcoder> sorry for asking
16:19 < th> hmm?
16:20 < th> there is no problem
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17:08 < owl> re
17:10 < snyke> re
17:27 * fake istrying cinarella
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18:48 < snyke> huhi
18:49 < fake> re snyke
18:49 < huebi> re
18:49 < huebi> moin zusammen
18:50 < fake> moin huebi!
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19:00 < blindcoder> rehi
19:07 < owl> re
19:08 < huebi> re owl
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20:01 < huebi> +3928144210 util-linux/util-linux-2.11u.tar.bz2 ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/
20:01 < huebi> update.
20:02 < huebi> one bug less now
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22:16 < huebi> owl: http://www.rocklinux.org/people/clifford/Meeting200208/
22:16 < huebi> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/clifford/Meeting200208/
22:16 < owl> thx.
22:17 < owl> weisst du wie weit das von l. nach wien ist?
22:17 < huebi> noe.
22:17 < th> und wie weit es erst von meiner residenz bis dahin ist...
22:18 < th> zu weit fuer nen WE-kurztrip :-/
22:18 < owl> schlecht. :-/ in l. ist scheint es irgendwie nur ein hotel (oder was immer das darstellen soll) zu geben...
22:18 < huebi> th: Nimm deinen Firmen Lear Jet.
22:19 < th> das is natuerlich ne idee
22:20 < huebi> qt knirscht hier auf der Platte so vor sich hin... braucht noch 20min
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22:42 < [anders]> mmpfh.. glibc is not in a happy mood.. it does not want to build at all..
22:43 < [anders]> re all.. only just made it back in after driving to Essex and back..
22:43 < owl> hi
22:44 < [anders]> hi there owl.. how's it going?
22:44 < owl> super. and at you? ;)
22:44 < [anders]> not bad.. but tired.. having something small to eat, doing some hacking on ROCK and then off to bed..
22:46 < owl> i see
22:47 < huebi> moin [anders]
22:47 < [anders]> moin huebi , wie gehts?
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22:47 < holyolli> hi
22:47 < [anders]> moin holyolli
22:48 < huebi> I just started a new build of 1.5.18
22:48 < holyolli> hi anders
22:48 < owl> hi holyolli
22:48 < holyolli> hi owl
22:48 < huebi> moin holyolli
22:48 < holyolli> tach huebi :)
22:48 < [anders]> huebi: it's been rolled up to 1.5.18 has it? :)
22:48 < huebi> [anders]: A little bit tired but fine
22:48 < holyolli> <-- ist now back from vacations and can now go on compiling ;-)
22:49 < huebi> [anders]: Yes. If it now works - I'll see it in a few hours - I officialy make the new version 1.5.18
22:51 * [anders] just pulled CVS and will check how big a patch it becomes..
22:54 < [anders]> fsck!! 0.5MB patch.. eek.. how much have you been tweaking huebi???
22:56 < huebi> [anders]: Almost all .conf files had to be changed to get working again after the change from '$MAKE' to 'make "$makeopt"'
23:00 < [anders]> heh.. I also discovered that the CVS directories has had a small alteration and that pulled in rather a lot of stuff..
23:01 < huebi> this looks to be more than it is. Now the kernel build works also on small computers again with make -j32
23:02 < huebi> orbit is fixed ogain (2 mins ago)
23:03 < [anders]> hmmm.. glibc compiled this time.. *confused*
23:03 < [anders]> Ok, will stop my stage 1+2 compile, add your patches and then build it again..
23:03 < huebi> ACK
23:05 < huebi> glibc could be a problem with $MAKE
23:18 < [anders]> indeed.. I think that was the problem with it..
23:21 < [anders]> stage 1+2 kicked off again.. once built, I'll tar up dist and fire off a stand-alone stage 3 build..
23:21 < [anders]> If everything works okay that is.. :)
23:29 < huebi> I started the build 4h ago. It should need another 4h.
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23:43 < [anders]> huebi: yeah, you have a faster box than I do though.. :)
23:44 < holyolli> huebi: 8h for a complete build?!?
23:44 < huebi> holyolli: yes.
23:44 < huebi> without Stage 5
23:44 < holyolli> urgs!
23:45 < holyolli> what machine are you using?
23:45 * [anders] can build Stage 1-5 in about 18-20 hours..
23:45 * holyolli too
23:45 < huebi> Dual XP1800+
23:45 < [anders]> Single XP1900+
23:45 < [anders]> :)
23:45 < [anders]> .5GB RAM..
23:45 * holyolli is excited about the build times of this new machine =)
23:45 < huebi> 1GB RAM
23:46 < [anders]> There are some rather nice boxes available from IBM.. 16way Xeon boxes.. ;-)
23:46 < [anders]> Unfortunately they are slightly outside my range at the moment.. *g*
23:46 < holyolli> hehe
23:46 < th> "slightly"
23:46 < huebi> holyolli: There is in the moment nothing faster on the market for a price of about 1500EUR
23:46 * holyolli had some luck on ebay...so nothing from ibm but from api networks
23:47 < huebi> holyolli: URL?
23:48 < [anders]> The build box we use at work for the project I work on there is a 4-way P-III Xeon 1.6GHz with 2GB RAM and about .5TB FCAL storage.. running hdparm -tT on those disks return 50MB/s every single time..
23:48 < holyolli> huebi: the site is down at the moment...but it's an alpha
23:48 < holyolli> alpha cs20
23:48 < huebi> holyolli: kool
23:49 < holyolli> it's quite nice, because of the small measurements (1U)
23:49 < huebi> [anders]: Do you have a price for the box?
23:50 * huebi fixing bonobo
23:50 * holyolli trying to compile a kernel with serial console...
23:50 -!- snyke is now known as snyk3
23:50 < holyolli> btw. this feature should be added to the kernelconfig-defaults
23:50 < huebi> holyolli: ack
23:50 < th> ack
23:51 < huebi> In Vienna I will adopt the new kernel conf stuff from 1.7 to 1.5.
23:51 < th> huebi: cool
23:51 < holyolli> huebi: when was vienna again?
23:52 < huebi> http://www.rocklinux.org/people/clifford/Meeting200208/
23:52 < th> 7.8. to 11.8.
23:52 < huebi> The kernel conf solution we had/have now is far from stable.
23:52 < holyolli> huebi: thx
23:54 < holyolli> hm. how long is vienna from frankfurt?
23:55 < holyolli> s/long/far/g;
23:55 < huebi> don't know. I think about 7h
23:55 < [anders]> huebi: which one?
23:55 < huebi> bonobo is fixed cvs updated
23:56 -!- snyk3 is now known as snyke
23:56 < huebi> 4-way P-III Xeon 1.6GHz with 2GB RAM and about .5TB FCAL storage <- that one
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23:57 < [anders]> huebi: if you are talking about the quad P-III Xeon, they are rather expensive with all 4 cpus in them.. I think from memory they were talking over 5000 GBP for the box, and then you have to add the storage afterwards.. I can try and look on the IBM webpages for it..
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23:59 < [anders]> fsck! I knew it was expensive, but not that expensive.. Ok, the box we have, is the X360... URL:  http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=2344267&smrfnbr=2072488&cntrfnbr=1&cgmenbr=1&cntry=840&lang=en_US&scrfnbr=73
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