--- Log opened Tue Aug 06 00:00:05 2002
--- Day changed Tue Aug 06 2002
00:01 * fake is off, visiting home again after a loooo~ng time
00:16 < th> hmmm fake you know what to do?
00:16 < th> .oO(iga iga iga iga)
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00:22 < Ge0rG> hrhr
00:22 < Ge0rG> th: you know what? crosscompile sdl + scummvm for the krups and you double its value ;)
00:22 < th> wuoahaha
00:23 < th> scumm scumm scumm
00:23 < Ge0rG> btw, did you test X with my fb patch?
00:23 < th> Ge0rG: i don't want X with less or equal 60Hz
00:24 * Ge0rG isn't sure if his patch broke X behaviour
00:24 < th> sure it did ;)
00:25 < th> btw. anyone knows whether it was a bug or a feature that linux-2.4.19 extracts to linux-2.4.19 instead of linux?
00:25 < Ge0rG> its a feature
00:25 < Ge0rG> introduced with one of the 2.5.x kernels its just better[tm]
00:25 < th> the first thing i did after each extraction was moving it to linux-$ver
00:26 < Ge0rG> now you don't need to
00:26 < th> yea. it's great :)
00:27 < th> i was really confused yesterday
00:27 < th> i extracted the source
00:27 < th> and it was gone
00:27 < th> no linux directory there
00:27 < th> i extracted it twice
00:27 < th> still not there
00:27 < th> then i even did a "ls -l"
00:27 < th> that made it clear
00:28 < Ge0rG> maybe its noticed in the documentation... somewhere in linux/.. err... linux-$ver ;)
00:28 < th> who cares...
00:28 < Ge0rG> -FUNDRAISING(fr@fundraising.staff.opn)- suxx.... *ignore*
00:29 < th> gib mir mal die irssi-syntax
00:29 < Ge0rG> /ignore FUNDRAISING!fr@fundraising.staff.opn
00:29 < th> ich will diese bloeden global-notices auf OPN nicht mehr
00:29 < Ge0rG> ;)
00:29 < th> naja issn anfang
00:29 < Ge0rG> /ignore *!*@*.staff.opn
00:29 < Mike1> lol
00:30 < Ge0rG> if we move to OFTC we don't get this spam anymore ;)
00:30 < th> Ge0rG: so establish a proxy-service
00:30 < th> hmm
00:30 < th> hmm
00:30 < Ge0rG> so we still get spam in the other network? ;)
00:30 < th> i would miss tab-completion
00:31 < th> Ge0rG: no a proxy-client connected to both channels on each net
00:31 < th> just distributing channel-traffic
00:31 < th> ich glaub ich hab morgen LOTR als dvd im briefkasten :)
00:32 < Ge0rG> dvd? pfui!
00:32 * th liebt DVDs
00:32 * th fuehlt sich besser mit DVDs
00:32 < th> libdvdcss is mein freund :)
00:33 < Ge0rG> DVDs verkörpern DMCA, MPAA, CSS und grosskonzerne...
00:33 < SMP> wie wahr
00:33 < th> SMP: Ge0rG hat mir 3 kaesten mitgebracht
00:34 < SMP> ja, hab's gelesen..
00:34 * Ge0rG wartet noch darauf, dass die fleissigen mitICMPler bilder von unserem nissan micra ins netz stellen.
00:34 < th> all diese unterhaltungsmedien zum berieseln werden von grosskonzernen verkoerpert
00:35 < Ge0rG> nur die, die kopierschutzmechanismen enthalten und für die die grosskonzerne geld bekommen
00:36 < th> moin SMP ersma
00:37 < th> Ge0rG: wann is deine naechste auslandsreise?
00:37 < Ge0rG> th: in zwei wochen.
00:37 * Ge0rG wird aber wohl nicht so grosse kapazitäten haben...
00:37 < Ge0rG> naja, ma kucken... heut früh dachten wir auch, dass ins auto nicht mehr als 5 kisten passen ;)
00:39 < th> hehe
00:40 < th> decken 3 EURO pro kiste den transport nach magdeburg ausreichend ab?
00:40 < th> dann koennte ich ja auch mal ne fahrt machen
00:40 * th bezweifelt das aber
00:40 < Ge0rG> th: nein. wenn wir kostendeckend arbeiten würden, müssten wir um die 20 eur berechnen *schätz*
00:40 < Ge0rG> oder wir brauchen nen transporter
00:41 < th> hast du mit den leuten von der brauerei geredet?
00:41 < th> betreffs lieferung?
00:41 < th> welche konditionen ab welche abnahmemenge?
00:41 < Ge0rG> th: der, der die führung machte, ist zu wichtig, um solche details zu kennen ;)
00:41 < Ge0rG> th: er verwies auf die sekretärinnen, die das wissen ;)
00:41 < th> mist
00:42 < th> und zu denen haste dich nich getraut?
00:42 < Ge0rG> th: einfach anrufen und nach konditionen fragen
00:42 < Ge0rG> es war sonntag ;)
00:42 < th> oh
00:42 < th> ;>
00:42 < th> ic
00:44 < Ge0rG> es gibt bereits mehrere personen, die sich gedanken über das liefern nach MD machen...
00:44 < Freak> fake, huebi, Mike1, owl: should I try to open another bottle of breezer?
00:44 < th> Ge0rG: ach?
00:44 < Freak> <owl> ja. und diesmal ins auge!!!
00:44 < Freak> <owl> dass ich sagen kann: "das ging ja dann voll ins auge" :PPP
00:44 < Ge0rG> vielleicht wirds nen CCC-organisierten transport geben
00:44 < owl> no.
00:44 < Mike1> Freak: try 2
00:44 < Freak> fieser vogel
00:44 < Mike1> and sent pictures
00:44 < Freak> heh
00:44 < Freak> two at once?!?
00:44 < Mike1> ja
00:44 < owl> Freak: ich bin immer fies
00:44 < Mike1> why not
00:45 < Freak> heh
00:45 < Freak> can't drink em both now!
00:45 * Ge0rG hat heute 120l club mate durch die gegend bewegt, und hat keine einzige flasche mit nach oben genommen
00:45 < Freak> I'm not a drink0R
00:45 < d3mian> re
00:46 < th> Ge0rG: nobel
00:46 < th> oder doch eher daemlich
00:49 < huebi> SMP: Ping.
00:49 < huebi> ripclaw just left.
00:50 < Mike1> mr d3mian
00:50 < d3mian> Master Mike1
00:50 * Mike1 blushes... you sure you got the right mike?
00:51 < th> hi Mike1
00:51 < d3mian> hehe
00:51 < Mike1> lo th
01:00 < SMP> huebi.
01:00 < SMP> huebi: we're running out of space on world:/home
01:01 < th> ouhm
01:01 < th> i think we could remove some old isos...
01:01 < th> hmmm
01:01 < SMP> huebi: I'd vote for removing some old 1.5.x ISOs
01:01 * ripclaw going to bed
01:01 < ripclaw> n8
01:01 < Mike1> SMP: perhaps i have room to host some of those isos so they dont get lost if you like
01:02 < SMP> there's still 5GB unallocated in the VG, but I'd like to not grow /home right now
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01:02 < SMP> well personally I don't mind them getting lost
01:02 < th> me neither
01:03 * huebi has a lok about it.
01:03 < Mike1> as you wish
01:03 < huebi> +o
01:03 < SMP> the source should stay, but who needs a 1.5.13 or so release anymore..
01:05 < huebi> Seriuosly nobody needs the old stuff, I think. There are too many exploits in it.
01:05 < th> i think we can remove them
01:06 < th> i think the last two versions are enough
01:06 < huebi> and one image for i386
01:06 < huebi> no sec image.
01:07 < huebi> no src image.
01:07 < huebi> no src image is needed.
01:07 < huebi> we have the whole source files here, too
01:07 < huebi> I clean up now
01:08 < th> yea keep some i386 stuff
01:08 < th> preferrably current ones
01:08 < th> ;-)
01:08 < th> 1.5.18 or sorta ;)
01:08 < huebi> SMP: Can you release some space of the 5% reserved for root on /home?
01:09 < huebi> th: I build one new image for i386 tomorrow
01:09 < th> huebi: it's not urgent for now ;)
01:10 < huebi> I have the time to do it. So why not? ;-)
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01:11 < huebi> Now we need a really good and open for the future solution for booting off of the CD.
01:12 < huebi> I thought about several boot images to boot for netinstall, installation from cdrom on an SCSI controller.
01:13 < huebi> And I want to have a usable rescue systen right on the boot cd
01:14 < huebi> SMP: Do you want  to have some extra disks for world?
01:15 < SMP> nooooooooo!
01:15 < SMP> ;-\
01:15 < huebi> erm. Why?
01:16 < SMP> it was a horror the last time I messed with it :}
01:16 < huebi> ACK. I remember.
01:16 < d3mian> cu
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01:16 < th> you need external USB mass-storage
01:16 < th> *jk*
01:17 < huebi> USB 2.0
01:19 < SMP> btw. I'll be attending the Vienna meeting
01:20 < huebi> SMP: kool.
01:20 < huebi> SMP: From Frankfurt there is a seat left empty if you need it.
01:20 < huebi> in my car.
01:21 < SMP> I'm going by plane
01:21 < huebi> from WR *g*
01:21 < SMP> 90 minutes to Vienna. can't beat that =)
01:21 < SMP> from Hanover
01:21 < huebi> What's the price for that?
01:22 < SMP> 2X0 EUR
01:22 < SMP> both ways.
01:23 < huebi> Cheaper than the gas for the car.
01:23 < huebi> world:~$ df -h
01:23 < huebi> /dev/vg00/lv04         16G   13G  2.5G  84% /home
01:23 < SMP> it's less expensive than train, too
01:23 < huebi> of course
01:23 < huebi> Darmstadt Bremen with ICE 184 EUR for 500km
01:25 < huebi> <- must by a car. The old one does start to get too old.
01:27 < SMP> did you remove any files yes?
01:27 < SMP> yet
01:27 < huebi> 1.5.13 and 1.5.15
01:32 < huebi> argh! rock (Ultra30) is running in full diag mode. 10mins to start booting.
01:34 < huebi> Init Psycho
01:35 < huebi> hehe nice boot message.
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01:59 < Mike1> re
01:59 < owl> rehi
02:00 < Mike1> owl: :)
02:03 < owl> don't laugh :) that's forbidden :PPP
02:04 < Mike1> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
02:04 < Mike1> ok
02:04 < owl> sorry, i'm insane today.
02:05 < Mike1> let me know when you are not, i dont think i have ever seen you sane
02:05 < Mike1> :PP
02:06 < owl> thx. a lot :)
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02:29 < Mike1> see u!
02:29 < owl> cu
02:29 < huebi> su Mike1
02:29 < huebi> cu even
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02:31 * Ge0rG has patched the kernel to allow wider linux_logo in the bootscreen. now there is a club mate advertisement ;)
02:31 < huebi> Ge0rG <- really adicted *g*
02:32 < Ge0rG> huebi: you saw the links I posted today?
02:32 < huebi> no.
02:33 < Ge0rG> http://op-co.de/icmp/ - we visited the loscher brewery yesterday :)
02:34 < huebi> nice pictures.
02:35 < huebi> Ah. Now I know where it is.
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02:45 < Mike1> ahh i stay a little more
02:46 < owl> re
02:46 < Mike1> if leave as pissed off as i am now i will end up doing something stupid
02:47 * huebi started a new build of 1.5.18 on sparc64
02:48 * huebi started a new build of 1.5.18 for i386
02:48 * Mike1 wonders if current cvs is 1.5.18
02:48 < huebi> Mike1: it is. and you can co the 1.5.18 branch
02:49 * Mike1 checking out
02:49 < huebi> in the moment it's currently unchanged 1.5.18
02:49 * Mike1 hates been sparcless :(((
02:49 < owl> huebi: can you plaese burn an .18 iso for me on friday? tia.
02:49 < huebi> owl: for which CPU?
02:50 < owl> eh... 586 (workstation) and 686(notebook)
02:50 < owl> eh. ix
02:50 < huebi> k6?
02:50 < huebi> and i686?
02:51 < owl> k6 (workstation) and p2 celeron
02:51 < huebi> ok
02:51 < owl> thx :)
02:51 * Mike1 grabing a beer, he WILL get drunk tonight
02:51 < owl> eh. what do i need for a p1, 210 mhz???
02:51 < huebi> for k6 the i386 should be the fastest version.
02:51 < owl> please burn it too
02:51 < owl> oki
02:52 < huebi> stage 1 finished for i386.
02:52 < huebi> 30 min as usual...
03:05 < Ge0rG> bye
03:07 < huebi> cu Ge0rG
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03:21 < huebi> 16 min for stage 2
03:21 * Mike1 grabs another beer
03:22 < huebi> good night
03:22 < Mike1> huebi: going to sleep?
03:24 * th entering sleep-stage-1
03:25 < Mike1> nacht
03:30 < owl> gn8 th
03:37 < th> yea cya now.
03:37 < th> n8 folks
03:51 * owl leaves you now
03:51 < owl> gn8
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03:51 < Mike1> nacht owly
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04:29 < Mike1> ok i now go to bed
04:29 < Mike1> n8
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07:37 < nAdIA> H!
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08:23 < huebi> moin
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09:11 < tsa> moin.
09:11 < huebi> moin tsa
09:11 < tsa> moin hube
09:11 < tsa> huebi
09:11 < tsa> hm..
09:11 < huebi> *g*
09:11 < tsa> jaja, es ist noch zu frueh..
09:11 < tsa> ;-)
09:12 * huebi fixinf linux-src and linux-header
09:12 < huebi> tsa: Und owl hat auch noch keinen Kaffee gekocht.
09:12 < tsa> huebi: hmpf.
09:12 < tsa> frauen.
09:12 < tsa> schlecht erzogen vermutlich.
09:13 < huebi> Jo. Immer diese antiauthoritaeren Erziehungsmethoden...
09:16 < huebi> also X-Anwendungen lassen sich auf sparc64 starten und auf ein anderes DISPLAY exportieren.
09:17 * huebi hat gvim entdeckt. ;-))
09:17 < tsa> hehe
09:17 < tsa> grausam ;)
09:18 < huebi> Die Farbdarstellung spinnt sonst in der Konsole von KDE
09:20 < tsa> KDE ist ebenfalls grausam.
09:20 < tsa> du laesst nicht wirklich KDE auf der Sun laufen, oder?
09:21 < huebi> tsa: noch nicht. Darmstadt ist aber schon seit Jahren die Hochburg von KDE-auf-SUN, hehe
09:22 < huebi> KDE 3,.0.2 habe ich 2 Wochen bevor es heraus kam schon auf einer E300 laufen sehen.
09:23 < tsa> pfui...
09:23 < huebi> E3000
09:23 * tsa will ne U60
09:23 * huebi 'ne Exx00. Ripclaw hat noch 7 CPU's
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09:23 < huebi> 250MHz
09:24 < k4r1oz> hello
09:24 < huebi> tach auch k4r1oz
09:24 < huebi> ;-)
09:24 < k4r1oz> well, i speak english & spanish
09:24 < k4r1oz> im sorry
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09:24 < tsa> no hay problema
09:25 < ceduardo> tsa?
09:25 < huebi> k4r1oz: Just a friendly greating in the style of northern Germany.
09:25 < ceduardo> huebi: thnx !
09:25 < tsa> mejor hablemos en ingles, huebi no sabe espanol
09:25 < ceduardo> quien eres?
09:25 < tsa> ;)
09:26 < tsa> hm...que tengo que decir? soy yo..
09:26 < tsa> ;)
09:26 < ceduardo> d3mian, mike ?
09:26 < tsa> no.
09:26 < ceduardo> ah
09:26 < ceduardo> ok
09:26 < tsa> i'm german ;)
09:26 < ceduardo> im downloading the rock sources
09:26 < ceduardo> yet...
09:26 < ceduardo> i'm from El Salvador
09:27 < ceduardo> my name is Carlos Eduardo
09:27 < tsa> ah, i see...
09:27 < ceduardo> 01:30AM
09:27 < tsa> never been there, though..
09:27 < tsa> hehe.
09:27 < huebi> 09:27 < ceduardo> 01:30AM
09:27 < ceduardo> wow
09:27 < tsa> so you probably just started to work? ;-)
09:27 < ceduardo> :)
09:28 < ceduardo> libxml2...
09:29 < ceduardo> what do you do, tsa ?
09:31 < tsa> currently? configuring cisco router (1603)
09:31 < ceduardo> i've never watched one
09:32 < tsa> just a small router - ethernet, isdn, x21 interfaces
09:32 < ceduardo> cool
09:32 < tsa> in this case, used for a 2mbit line
09:33 < tsa> nice toy, but still pretty expensive ;-)
09:33 < ceduardo> do you are in the job ?
09:33 < ceduardo> ..or home :) ?
09:33 < tsa> i'm at work..
09:33 < huebi> ceduardo: That doesn't nessesarily mean that he works *g*
09:34 < huebi> *LOL*
09:34 < ceduardo> huebi: XD
09:34 < tsa> indeed.
09:34 < huebi> I'm at home. But I do work. *ROTFLOL*
09:34 < ceduardo> i'm at home
09:34 < ceduardo> i'm a student yet...
09:36 < ceduardo> tengo sueño
09:36 < ceduardo> i must sleep
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09:39 < ceduardo> zzzzzZZZZZ
09:39 < ceduardo> 01:42 AM
09:39 < huebi> cu ceduardo
09:41 < tsa> cu ceduardo
09:41 < tsa> hi snyke
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09:52 < ceduardo_> hola
09:52 < ceduardo_> hello
09:55 < tsa> re ceduardo
10:04 * tsa bing tired.
10:04 < tsa> being
10:04 < tsa> ...and too dumb to type
10:04 < tsa> ;)
10:04 < huebi> echo 1 >tsa:/proc/coffe
10:08 < tsa> echo 99999999 > tsa:/proc/coffee
10:08 < tsa> better ;)
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10:09 < huebi> cat tsa:/proc/heardbeat
10:09 < huebi> 180
10:09 < huebi> cat tsa:/proc/heardbeat
10:09 < huebi> 250
10:09 < tsa> hehe
10:12 * tsa will get a new disk tomorrow.
10:12 < tsa> <- happy.
10:13 < tsa> getting rid of the last piece of IDE crap.
10:13 < huebi> nice. What disk?
10:15 < tsa> IBM 36GB U160
10:15 < huebi> koool
10:15 < tsa> yes, i know.
10:16 < huebi> Prize?
10:16 < tsa> all my disks are filled up, i need some new space for mp3z ;)
10:16 < huebi> <- uses a DLT-8000 for  that
10:16 < tsa> 264 eur
10:16 < tsa> hehe..
10:17 < huebi> nice.
10:17 < tsa> earlier, i always burned CD's ...
10:17 < tsa> but i realized that you don't listen to them anymore if you don't have them right on your disk..
10:17 < huebi> ACK
10:18 < tsa> always used my 13gb ide disk for mp3z, but now it's just full (15mb left)..
10:19 < tsa> so i hope i'll be lucky with this one for at least one year..
10:20 < huebi> in 30 mins the new 1.5.18 iso will be ready.
10:20 < tsa> ah, nice.
10:20 < tsa> i have a 1.7.0-dev build running at home..
10:20 < huebi> Well, tsa, I bought 4 75GB disks in December. They are filled up now.
10:20 < tsa> currently somewhere in stage 3 ..
10:20 < tsa> huebi: urghs.
10:21 < tsa> huebi: with what? just mp3z?
10:21 < huebi> tsa: have a look on ella ;-)
10:21 < huebi> mpg's
10:21 < tsa> aah, pr0n
10:21 < tsa> ;-)
10:22 < huebi> not too much *g*
10:22 < tsa> hehje
10:22 < tsa> drwx------    3 huebi    huebi          72 May 22 21:14 filme
10:24 < huebi> huebi@zeus:~ > du -sm  CD-Images/
10:24 < huebi> 23843   CD-Images
10:25 < tsa> hehe
10:25 < huebi> 15 rock-isos
10:25 < tsa> urghs
10:27 < huebi> Well I just have to clean up again. Then there will be only a few gigs left #GB for the rock linux ftp service
10:27 < huebi> 3GB
10:27 < tsa> i'd recommend you to update openssl to 0.9.6e
10:29 < huebi> tsa: ACK. and openssh and apache and all the other exploits. I do that this week. Or better I did it. Now I have to change the PC.
10:30 < tsa> ok.
10:30 < huebi> 1.5.18 ;-) With all fixes.
10:30 < tsa> hehe
10:31 < tsa> being offline at home has some advantages, too...at least now i have about 90% of my mp3z correctly named and tagged..
10:32 < tsa> although i can't wait to get online back again....lots of private mail awaiting me..
10:33 < huebi> in the moment I'm fixing linux-src. I don't want to have a /etc/setup.d/xx-linux-src script to generate all sources in /usr/src from the stuff under /usr/src/kernel
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10:33 < huebi> I do want.
10:33 < tsa> huhu holyolli
10:33 < holyolli> moin
10:33 < holyolli> huhu tsa
10:33 < huebi> moin holyolli
10:33 < holyolli> moin huebi
10:34 < huebi> huebi@zeus:~ > ll /mnt/disk/rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err
10:34 < huebi> ls: /mnt/disk/rock-linux/dist/var/adm/logs/*err: No such file or directory
10:34 < huebi> nice.
10:35 < huebi> The whole build of 1.5.18 needs now about 8:10
10:35 < tsa> hehe
10:35 < tsa> on what hardware?
10:36 < huebi> 2x XP1800+, 1GB RAM
10:36 < tsa> hm...
10:36 < tsa> nice.
10:36 < huebi> ROCKCFG_MAKE_JOBS='8'
10:36 < tsa> hehe
10:37 * tsa using 4
10:37 < tsa> still want to be able to use the machine during a build..
10:37 < huebi> the rock-debug package must be multi threaded in the future.
10:38 < huebi> tsa: with -j8 that's absolutly no problem.
10:38 < tsa> huebi: on your machine, yes.
10:38 < tsa> <- dual p3-750, 384mb
10:39 < huebi> tsa: Try at least -j4. Better for IO performance
10:39 < huebi> faertischh
10:39 < huebi>  ** Finished (08/06/02 02:21:11 - 08/06/02 10:38:17) **
10:39 < tsa> hehe
10:39 < holyolli> huebi: you are also using alpha hardware, don't you?
10:40 < huebi> holyolli: Yes I do. But esden needs first to fix qt.
10:40 < holyolli> huebi: did you also encounter the error that the smp kernel crashes during boot?
10:41 < huebi> holyolli: I don't remember
10:41 < holyolli> huebi: i tried to run 2.4.17-smp and it crashes the same way as 2.4.[18|19]
10:42 < huebi> hmm. ugly. Sth for the LKM I think.
10:43 < holyolli> lkm?
10:43 < holyolli> ah
10:43 < holyolli> never mind ;)
10:53 < rolla> re all
10:53 < holyolli> hi rolla
10:54 < ceduardo_> hi
10:54 < ceduardo_> everybody
10:54 < rolla> man is it early :(
10:54 < ceduardo_> 02:57 AM
10:54 < rolla> well that is earlier than it is here where are you ceduardo_ ?
10:55 < praenti> hi
10:55 < ceduardo_> central america
10:55 < rolla> nod I am in central US :)
10:56 < ceduardo_> >:-P
10:56 < ceduardo_> :D
10:56 < ceduardo_> El Salvador
10:56 < ceduardo_> the sun will appear, soon
10:56 < praenti> huebi: do you know of any problems with your cvs-tree?
10:56 * ceduardo_ is downloading rock sources yet !
10:57 < ceduardo_> RFC-all.tar.gz
10:57 < rolla> :)
10:57 < rolla> oh well back home for some sleep
10:58 < praenti> ceduardo_: what rock version?
10:59 < praenti> s/what/which
11:04 * praenti downloading 1.5 cvs-tree sources
11:04 < [anders]> Meow..
11:04 < praenti> moin [anders]
11:04 < [anders]> moin praenti
11:04 < [anders]> moin zusammen
11:05 < praenti> [anders]: do you know of any build-problems with the current 1.5 cvs-tree?
11:06 < praenti> or run problems
11:08 < th> praenti: there are lots of problems
11:08 < th> praenti: you could contribute some extension-fixes
11:10 < praenti> th: ok. i will do that before i start the build. but my question was more focused on the base+opt
11:10 < praenti> and ia32 architecture
11:10 < th> i thought you mean that
11:10 < th> ok
11:11 < praenti> th: when we have there bigger probs i would try to stabilize my build before.
11:17 < ceduardo_> praenti: 1.5.17
11:17 < ceduardo_> im sorry :)
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11:19 < praenti> ceduardo_: get you all the sources you need?
11:19 < praenti> hallix aszlig
11:24 < ceduardo_> ?
11:24 < ceduardo_> yes
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11:24 < ceduardo|zzzZZ> err
11:24 < ceduardo|zzzZZ> bye - 03:27 AM
11:25 < th> cya ceduardo|zzzZZ
11:25 < tsa> cu ceduardo|zzzZZ
11:25 < huebi> cu ceduardo|zzzZZ
11:25 < ceduardo|zzzZZ> thnx
11:25 < th> huch. der channel lebt ja.
11:25 < huebi> th moin
11:25 < esden> morning
11:25 < huebi> tach esden.
11:25 < th> moin alle
11:25 * -> esden here only for few minutes
11:26 < praenti> MoeP esden! (zum wach werden *g*)
11:26 < esden> hi huebi, th 
11:26 < esden> how are you guys ?
11:26 < praenti> cya ceduardo|zzzZZ
11:27 < huebi> esden: Kannst du das Display, auch ohne Gehaeuse, und die 9GB Festplatte mit nach Wien mitbringen?
11:27 < praenti> esden: wann fährst du zum clifford?
11:29 * praenti at lunch
11:30 < huebi> esden: ?
11:35 < esden> huebi: ja werde ich machen
11:35 < huebi> gut.
11:36 < esden> ich habe leider die letzte woche wegen meinem praktikum an der uni scheiss wenig zeit ... deshalb ist bissel entwicklungsflaute bei mir
11:36 < huebi> ja, ist ok. Dafuer tut sich hier mal wieder einiges.
11:36 < esden> soo ich muss an die roboter wieder drann
11:37 < esden> cu
11:37 < huebi> [anders] hat ein 500k patch einspielen muessen
11:37 < huebi> cu esden
11:37 < esden> aja 
11:37 < esden> ich schaue mir die chlogs an
11:37 < huebi> 145 Dateien geaendert.
11:40 < esden> uii nicht schlecht
11:40 < esden> worum geht es da ... sf pakete gefixed ?
11:40 < esden> oder was groebered
11:41 < esden> upsa
11:41 < huebi> groeber.
11:41 < esden> ich meine groeberes
11:41 < esden> naemlich ?
11:41 < huebi> $MAKE in 'make "$makeopt"' umgebaut
11:41 < esden> aja richtig
11:41 < esden> habe ich muitbekommen das du was daran gemacht hast
11:41 < huebi> rfc ausgebaut
11:42 < esden> rfc ??? habt ihr es entfernt ?
11:42 < huebi> und jetzt linux* fixen. (mal wieder)
11:42 < th> woas?
11:42 < th> rfc is raus?
11:42 < esden> ja linux* unser sorgenkind
11:42 < huebi> esden: Jo RFC hat 64MB auf der CD. Das ist nichts fuer die Install-CD
11:42 < tsa> re.
11:42 < tsa> huh?
11:43 < tsa> RFC _ist_ wichtig.
11:43 < th> huebi: ahja. aber du hast doch hoffentlich gleich eine extension draus gemacht?
11:43 < esden> ja stimmt das muss raus auf ne erweiterumgscd
11:43 < esden> ja rfc ist wichtig
11:43 < esden> sehr sogar
11:43 < esden> aber es muss nicht auf der ersten cd drauf sein ...
11:43 < esden> und ausserdem hat man fuer die rfc's iner ;-)
11:44 < esden> ich meine inet
11:44 < huebi> ACK. Wir brauchen trotzdem noch ein neues boot system.
11:44 < esden> ja aber ich wuerde es nicht vor 1.6.0 machen sondern in 1.6.1 oder so
11:44 < esden> wenn du mich fraegst
11:44 < esden> denn sonnst kommt 1.6.0 nie raus ...
11:45 < esden> grr ... ich muss jetzt echt weg
11:45 < esden> sorry jungs
11:45 < th> huebi: ein grub von cd waere sehr vorteilhaft. das ermoeglicht tausende moeglichkeiten
11:45 < esden> man sieht sich
11:45 < th> later esden
11:45 * -> esden detatched
11:45 < huebi> der neue kernel ist jetzt viel zu gross. D muss jetzt definitiv was anderes her.
11:45 < th> huebi: da kann man sich den kernel manuel auswaehlen genau wie das rootfs
11:45 < huebi> cu esden
11:47 * th weiss aber nicht, ob grub auch iso9660 lesen kann. sieht erstmal nicht so aus
11:47 < huebi> th: sehr gute idee. das sehe ich mir genau an.
11:47 < th> huebi: kann man auf die CD ausser dem iso kram noch ein anderes filesystem kriegen?
11:47 < th> vllt gibts ja auch zusatzmodule, so dass grub iso9660 lesen kan
11:48 < th> dann waere eine vielzahl von kerneln ueberhaupt kein problem mehr
11:52 < [anders]> praenti: no, just built stage 3 and no errors apart from slang, but the fix was simple.. Will feed that back to huebi shortly..
11:52 < [anders]> huebi: I'll take a look at that and thy and merge it. :)
11:52 < [anders]> s/thy/try/
11:52 < huebi> ok
11:53 * [anders] is still tired as hell.. Not getting enough sleep is not helping me very much..
11:56 < tsa> [anders]: why don't you just sleep during workhours? ;-)
11:59 < th> is it possible to have ext2 on a cdrom?
12:02 < [anders]> tsa: uhm.. not quite the done thing is it.. :)
12:02 < [anders]> th: yes, as long as you use a 2k blocksize..
12:02 < th> huebi: i think the problem is that most BIOSes do not provide a way to access the cdrom
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12:12 < holyolli> hi rxr
12:12 < tsa> tag rxr
12:14 < th> is it possible to have multiple 2.88MB floppys emulated from cdrom?
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12:16 < holyolli> hi Ge0rG
12:16 < tsa> hi Ge0rG
12:16 < Ge0rG> guten morgen :)
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12:33 < th> huebi: hmmm.it should be possible to be prompted by grub to insert a floppy containing the kernel
12:34 < tsa> bbl - looking for food.
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13:16 < bluefire> Moin
13:17 < holyolli> hi bluefire
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13:33 < tsa> re.
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13:42 < thalerim> moin
13:44 < thalerim> huebi: what's about the 1.5.18base+opt iso?
13:45 < huebi> it's ok.
13:45 < thalerim> stable? or anything what I should know about?
13:45 < thalerim> ok
13:45 < thalerim> Is there a possiblity to see what packages it contains?
13:45 < huebi> stable. oonly linux-src is broken.
13:46 < huebi> thalerim: cvs
13:46 < thalerim> mh? i mean the iso
13:46 < thalerim> i could mount it loopback ... but then it must already be downloaded
13:47 < th> thalerim: do you want a find output of it?
13:47 < thalerim> an ls of the packages dir(s?)
13:48 < huebi> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/pub/build.out
13:49 < th> thalerim: the output of a "find /mnt/cd"
13:49 < thalerim> thx@huebi
13:50 < thalerim> th: heubi's url is sufficient ;)
13:50 < th> thalerim: ok great
13:50 < thalerim> huebi's i mean ...
13:50 < thalerim> forgive me masta
13:52 < thalerim> download.rocklinux.de <-- does this server withstand downloading the file four times simutanely?
13:52 < th> thalerim: what are you planning to do?
13:53 < thalerim> downloading 4 segements of the file
13:53 < thalerim> simultaneously
13:53 < thalerim> in the end they will be cut together, you see?
13:53 < th> for better performance?
13:53 < thalerim> yes
13:53 < th> i don't see why this should improve performance
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13:54 < huebi> brb
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13:55 < tsa> KAFFEE!
13:55 < thalerim> th: first i had 49 kb/s with only one download, now i do twice and i have 67kb/s ...
13:55 < owl> hi
13:55 < owl> tsa: tolle begruessung :P
13:56 < tsa> ;-)
13:56 < tsa> hi owl
13:56 < owl> moin tsa :P
13:56 < tsa> :-PP
13:56 < thalerim> moin owl..
13:56 < th> thalerim: isn't your site the slower one?
13:57 < thalerim> yes
13:57 < thalerim> but i do not know how powerful the server is, i don't want to custome the whole bundle of bandwith
14:00 < thalerim> huebi: can you grep 'Finished' build.out please?
14:02 < huebi> thalerim: what for? can't you do it yourself?
14:03 < thalerim> no ...
14:03 < huebi> ok
14:03 < thalerim> otherwize i haven't asked ;)
14:03 < tsa> huebi: btw...did you already recieve your daily coffee from owl?
14:03 < huebi> tsa: No, not at all.
14:04 < tsa> huebi: we really need to do something about this.
14:05 < owl> *g*
14:05 < tsa> huebi: do you attend the dev-meeting in vienna?
14:05 < huebi> thalerim: ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/pub/build.out.Building
14:05 * huebi on the phone
14:05 < thalerim> may thanks *knuddel*
14:05 < tsa> huebi: if you do - take a pic from owl for the gallery..
14:05 < tsa> ;-)
14:06 * owl kills tsa right now!
14:06 < tsa> hehehe
14:07 < tsa> owl: you know you want to be added there, you're just too shy to give us your pic, hm?
14:07 < owl> hm
14:07 < thalerim> wonderful ...
14:08 * thalerim sits back and is watching the download of the new rock iso ...
14:16 < thalerim> owl: und wie finste Cradle of Filth? :->
14:16 < owl> aehm.
14:43 < tsa> aehm?
14:43 < owl> nix
14:44 < owl> tsa: verstehst du eh nicht. also versuch's nicht erst zu begreifen. hat keinen sinn. :P
14:50 < thalerim> http://www.live365.com/play/239059 .... mhmmm
14:50 < owl> verdammtes dsl.
14:51 < thalerim> brb
14:52 * owl leaves you now again.
14:52 < owl> cu later
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15:19 < tsa> re praenti
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15:24 < LocalHero> Hi all
15:24 < thalerim> moin
15:26 * thalerim sets mode -obviously -idling
15:30 < LocalHero> Anybody know if there are any other software that functions like wmvare?
15:30 < LocalHero> ups vmware
15:32 < thalerim> yes, there is at least one
15:32 < thalerim> but i forgot the name ...
15:32 < thalerim> VirtualPC ...?! ... dunno
15:32 < th> win4lin
15:32 < th> pcemu?
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15:42 < LocalHero> Ahh, oki, anybody have any to recomend of the following?
15:42 < thalerim> sorry ... have no one tested so far
15:42 < LocalHero> oki :)
15:54 < hackbard> morning!
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16:00 < Ge0rG> http://pics.dorfbrunnen.de/icmp/P1010092.JPG ;)
16:01 < tsa> lol.
16:02 < holyolli> hehe...
16:07 < rolla> re all
16:07 < holyolli> Ge0rG bist du da drauf?
16:07 < tsa> re rolla
16:12 < tsa> bbl.
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16:13 < Ge0rG> holyolli: jo
16:13 < Tevion> tag :-)
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16:17 < Tevion> hmm
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16:20 < Mike1> moin
16:21 < holyolli> hi Mike1
16:32 < holyolli> esden?
16:38 < rolla> rxr: you around ?
16:38 < holyolli> huebi?
16:39 < rolla> can someone tell me why the drock-i586-1.6.0-CD-boot.iso is only 8.8M ?
16:39 * holyolli not
16:40 < rolla> ?
16:40 < holyolli> i don't know it
16:41 < rolla> nod
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17:26 < holyolli> cya later
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17:45 < Mike1> huebi: here?
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18:13 < huebi> re
18:14 < Mike1> re Master huebi
18:18 < blindcoder> g'evening
18:32 < Mike1> hallo blindcoder
18:32 < th> hi miguel
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19:11 < Mike1> 'lo Tobias
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19:22 < th> hmmm
19:22 < Mike1> ?
19:23 < th> huebi: an installed 1.5.17 shows / mounted twice
19:23 < th> rootfs and /dev/root
19:23 < th> is this a 2.4.19 kernel issue?
19:25 < huebi> keine ahnung
19:25 < th> huebi: was meinst du dazu? passiert das bei 1.5.18 immernoch?
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19:27 < ceduardo> hello world
19:27 < Mike1> hello Carlos
19:27 < ceduardo> me acabo de despertar...
19:28 < Mike1> haha dormilon!!
19:28 < ceduardo> i just got wake up ?
19:28 < Mike1> i just woke up*
19:28 < ceduardo> a.. gracias
19:28 < ceduardo> 11:31 AM
19:28 < Mike1> ceduardo: como te fue con la instalacion de ROCK Linux anoche?
19:28 < ceduardo> sigo bajando
19:29 < ceduardo> qpopper
19:29 < Mike1> wow
19:29 < Mike1> algo lento
19:29 < ceduardo> connect: Connection timed out
19:29 < Mike1> i see
19:29 < ceduardo> pero he estado bajando como 70k/s
19:29 < ceduardo> 100k/s algunos tarballs
19:29 < esden> re hi all
19:30 < ceduardo> hi esden
19:30 < esden> hi ceduardo 
19:30 < Mike1> carlos 11% [===>                                 ] 25,142,056   241.91K/s    ETA 11:10
19:30 < Mike1> hi esden :)
19:31 < ceduardo> (try:12) => `ext-archive/qpopper/qpopper4.0.3.tar.gz'
19:32 < ceduardo> :(
19:32 < Mike1> ceduardo: should have download only the base packages >_<
19:32 < ceduardo> Mike1: sure
19:32 < ceduardo> Ctrl-C
19:32 < Mike1> ceduardo: las estensiones estan muy desactulizadas o con las direcciones mal
19:33 < Mike1> ademas tendras mil problemas compilandolas
19:33 < Mike1> mejor usa solo las base
19:33 < ceduardo> ok
19:33 < ceduardo> viene KDE en la base?
19:33 < Mike1> si
19:33 < Mike1> y gnome
19:33 < ceduardo> bonito
19:34 < Mike1> ceduardo: kde3 por cierto
19:34 < ceduardo> yo ocupo los dos
19:34 < ceduardo> XD
19:34 < Mike1> ?
19:34 < ceduardo> los dos estan bien hechos
19:34 < Mike1> k
19:34 < ceduardo> k?
19:35 < Mike1> k = ok
19:35 < ceduardo> tengo hambre
19:35 < Mike1> vaya desayune
19:35 < ceduardo> me rugen las tripas !
19:36 < ceduardo> kuiz kas truicks
19:36 < ceduardo> prrz truicks ruaks
19:36 < ceduardo> :)
19:36 < ceduardo> slack# /scripts/Download -base
19:37 < ceduardo> slack# ./scripts/Download -base
19:37 < ceduardo> ya corri el Puzzle
19:37 < ceduardo> ...pero el /Doc*/FAQ sigue vacio
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19:58 < Mike1> Master rxr_ :)
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20:00 < Mike1> hi owly :)
20:00 < owl> hi
20:00 < owl> eh!
20:01 < esden> argh ... that are many mails !!!!
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20:30 < d3mian> good afternoon over there
20:30 < Mike1> lo d3mian
20:31 < d3mian> hi Mike1
20:34 < owl> hi d3mian
20:36 * Mike1 finshed 1.7 build, booting on it....
20:36 < Mike1> brb
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20:47 < Mike1> :) its boots :)
20:47 < Mike1> re
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20:50 < Mike1> re d3mian
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21:14 < netcrow> hi
21:14 < owl> moin
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21:46 < huebi> Mike1: We definitly need 'eject'. At least for sparc.
21:46 < Mike1> grrrr... i knew
21:47 < Mike1> huebi: so we are including it?
21:47 < Mike1> btw huebi how are you today?
21:48 < huebi> Yes, we include it.
21:48 < huebi> Tired.
21:48 < Mike1> huebi: i will do it if you like
21:49 < huebi> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/utils/disk-management/eject-2.0.12.tar.gz <- I think this is good.
21:49 < huebi> Mike1: Yes, please.
21:49 < Mike1> but after i come back from lunch ;) /me is hungry!
21:49 < huebi> ACK.
21:49 < Mike1> huebi: :)
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21:55 < snyke> esden?
21:55 < snyke> netcrow?
21:55 < snyke> fake?
21:56 < huebi> Mathilda?
21:57 < snyke> ney.
21:59 < huebi>  _____________
21:59 < huebi> < Hallo Snyke >
21:59 < huebi>  -------------
21:59 < huebi>         \   ^__^
21:59 < huebi>          \  (oo)\_______
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21:59 < huebi> 
22:00 < snyke> flood =)
22:19 < d3mian> cu
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22:20 * Mike1 is away: I'm busy
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22:20 < Mike1> re
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22:25 < ripclaw> helo
22:25 < Mike1> Hi ripclaw
22:25 < owl> hi ripclaw
22:25 < huebi> tach ripclaw
22:26 < ripclaw> moin
22:26 < ripclaw> huebi: netra x1 kernel crashed when trying to mount cdrom.
22:26 < ripclaw> doesnt boot in the u5.
22:26 < ripclaw> any other ideas ?
22:27 < huebi> all known problems.
22:27 < huebi> s/x1/t1/
22:28 < ripclaw> $$$ ? wer schenkt mir geld ?
22:30 < ripclaw> huebi - any other ideas how to get kernel source on the ide box ? mount from x86 ?
22:31 < ripclaw> did you already try that the last time ?
22:31 < huebi> mount disk in x86 was the solution for me
22:31 < ripclaw> ok. so i`ll do that.
22:31 < ripclaw> beg ye all pardon, but i`ll have to reboot for that :)
22:31 < ripclaw> l8r
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23:36 < Mike1> hi capchaos
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23:39 < huebi> o_O chrisFRUST
23:39 < chrisFRUST> scheiss ibm
23:39 < chrisFRUST> meine pladde is putt
23:39 < chrisFRUST> sind diese verdammten ic35er
23:43 < owl> hi
23:44 < huebi> huhu owl.
23:44 < owl> *wink* huebi :)
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23:55 < huebi> libnet is moved from ext to base and rarpd is added to base.
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