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--- Log opened Wed Aug 07 00:00:23 2002 --- Day changed Wed Aug 07 2002 00:09 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@pD9E11AE0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:17 -!- angel|of|chaos_ [~Angel@p5082BFF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:22 -!- angel|of|chaos_ [~Angel@p5082BFF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 00:28 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813D7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:28 < thalerim> moin 00:28 < owl> moin 00:34 -!- owl is now known as _NULL 00:36 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 00:37 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@pD9E11AE0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:38 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 00:40 * _NULL listens to Maximilian Hecker - Today 00:40 < ceduardo> hello d3mian 00:41 < d3mian> hi ceduardo 00:41 < d3mian> hi guys 00:41 < ceduardo> he estado aqui desde como a las 12:00 AM 00:41 < ceduardo> sigo despierto 00:42 < d3mian> u shoudnt do that ceduardo, try to sleep, at least a bit, ull feel better ;-) 00:42 < ceduardo> EPIC 00:45 < ceduardo> estoy en vacaciones 00:45 < ceduardo> debo aprovechar 00:46 < _NULL> and today / i will kill myself / and today / my heart will stop running / and today / i will leave the world behind me / and today / i will lose you forever / and today, yeah / oh today, yeah / oh today, the world is mine / mother, hold me / hold me tight / i will leave you 00:46 < _NULL> *sing* 00:52 < d3mian> ohh, rain has stopped, i can go in peace now :) 00:55 < ceduardo> bye 00:55 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has left #rocklinux () 01:25 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5392.pppool.de] has quit ("back to fsking reality. damn it!") 01:25 < chrisFRUST> hm 01:25 < chrisFRUST> esden: da? 01:27 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813D7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 01:32 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 01:33 < Mike1> re 01:42 -!- ceduardo [~ceduardo@63.101.134.37] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:43 -!- gothdaria [gothdaria@dhcp065-025-024-110.neo.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 01:52 -!- chrisFRUST [~chrisime@pD9590652.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:33 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048567.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:38 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5a90.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:38 -!- owl is now known as _NULL 02:38 < Mike1> _NULL: 02:38 < _NULL> re 02:38 < Mike1> :) 02:38 < _NULL> damn. 02:39 < _NULL> stupid life 02:39 < Mike1> ? 02:39 * _NULL hates it 02:39 < Mike1> ?? 02:39 < _NULL> nothing 02:39 < Mike1> ? 02:39 * _NULL defines: life = shit 02:43 * _NULL listens to: zemfira - suicide 02:44 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-169-225.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:45 < Mike1> hey rxr 02:48 -!- root| [~ceduardo@63.101.134.37] has joined #rocklinux 02:48 < _NULL> root - just a second. and i will hack you 02:48 < _NULL> *cyn* 02:50 < Mike1> _NULL: read the username twice 02:50 < Mike1> :) 02:51 * _NULL is to stupid to be able to read 02:51 * _NULL is to stupid for life 02:51 * _NULL should better die 02:52 < Mike1> _NULL: cut that pathetic bullshit!! you got me sick with that!!! 02:52 < _NULL> heh, it's just me. it doesn't matter if i won't appere here anymore 02:52 < _NULL> i'm a nobody 02:52 < _NULL> a NULL 02:55 * _NULL should better continue cutting her skin into pieces 02:59 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-169-152.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:28 -!- tomik [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has joined #rocklinux 03:28 -!- tomik_ [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:40 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5a90.pppool.de] has quit ("back to fscking stupid reality. damn. hating life. wanna die") 03:43 < bluefire> Good night all. 03:43 < Mike1> nacht bluefire 03:43 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1CDF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 03:43 -!- ceduardo [~ceduardo@63.101.134.37] has joined #rocklinux 03:43 < ceduardo> ñ 03:43 -!- tomik [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:43 -!- tomik [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has joined #rocklinux 03:45 -!- root| [~ceduardo@63.101.134.37] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:09 -!- kaerF [freak@p50839856.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:09 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E392E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: kaerF!freak@p50839856.dip.t-dialin.net))) 04:09 -!- kaerF is now known as Freak 04:26 -!- ceduardo [~ceduardo@63.101.134.37] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:43 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 05:05 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit ("Irssi - the client of smart and beautiful people") 05:27 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-171-140.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:36 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 05:44 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-169-225.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05:58 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 06:54 -!- gothdaria [gothdaria@dhcp065-025-024-110.neo.rr.com] has quit ("OMG! UH!") 07:20 -!- nAdIeD [~nando@cii.udea.edu.co] has joined #rocklinux 07:22 -!- nAdIeD [~nando@cii.udea.edu.co] has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 08:02 < huebi> moin 08:29 < coldie> morning 08:29 < huebi> hi coldie 08:41 -!- Hioki_ [~ceduardo@63.101.134.37] has joined #rocklinux 08:41 < Hioki_> hw 08:59 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-168-77.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 09:02 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-171-140.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09:17 -!- Hioki_ [~ceduardo@63.101.134.37] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:15 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:16 < snyke> hi all 10:16 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:16 < snyke> hi holyolli 10:16 < holyolli> moin 10:16 < holyolli> hi snyke 10:16 < huebi> moin holyolli 10:16 < holyolli> huhu huebi 10:16 < huebi> hi snyke 10:16 < huebi> Ich baue gerade libnet und rarpd in base ein. 10:17 < huebi> Wird gebraucht fuer netboot von sparc maschinen. 10:25 < huebi> A SparcStation IPC is _really_ slow. It gets it's tftpboot image with ~30KByte/s 10:26 < huebi> reset 10:26 < huebi> oops. ww 10:29 < holyolli> hehe 10:40 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:40 < tsa> moin. 10:42 < holyolli> huhu tsa 10:43 < huebi> hallo tsa ;-) 10:44 < huebi> (Alles muss man hier selber machen - Sogar Kaffeee kochen.) 10:46 < tsa> huebi: jo, ich weiss.... *seufz* 10:46 < huebi> Wien wird ein Kaffeekochkurs fuer owl. Dann ist sie unter Maennern so richtig beliebt. *g* 10:47 < huebi> Die IPC ist kool. Die braucht zum booten von Solaris7 genau so lange, wie ich zum duschen 10:51 < holyolli> hm. huebi braucht also ganz schön lange zum duschen... =) 10:52 < huebi> holyolli: ACK 10:57 < tsa> hehe 11:10 < huebi> Booting Linux... 11:10 < huebi> Ahh 12:27 < SMP> see what funny things the 'Glamour' magazine has to say ;-) : https://world.cabal1.net/~stefanp/geek.jpg 12:27 < huebi> *click* 12:28 < holyolli> weia 12:28 < tsa> hehe 12:29 < huebi> Ich erinnere mich jetzt, warum ich nur sehr selten Zeitschriften kaufe. 12:30 < SMP> ich musste mal zufaellig das Frauenklo hier benutzen. da lag das Teil rum ;> 13:06 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!") 13:21 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-171-201.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:27 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-168-77.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13:50 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:59 < tsa> *gaehn* 13:59 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-171-201.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:59 < tsa> hi rxr 13:59 < tsa> hmpf. 13:59 < tsa> cu rxr. 13:59 < tsa> hi Ge0rG 13:59 < Ge0rG> good morning tsa 14:02 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-204.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:07 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50817A4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:07 < tsa> re rxr 14:07 < tsa> hi bluefire 14:07 < bluefire> Hi tsa 14:07 < bluefire> Hi folks 14:07 -!- Ge0rG is now known as ge0rg 14:19 < [anders]> huebi: hmm.. I've found a little bit og a problem with libnet and rarpd.. 14:19 < [anders]> s/og/of/ 14:19 < huebi> [anders]: Jo. the version of libnet must be 1.0.2a 14:19 < huebi> I cvs ci it now 14:20 < [anders]> aahh, okay.. I read the docs in rarpd and that suggested libnet 0.99g 14:21 < huebi> ok. it's up. 14:22 * [anders] is trying really hard to update the Gnome2 tree from the CVS and is not having much luck.. I need to talk to Mike1 about how to progress this further.. 14:22 < huebi> libnet changed a bit in 1.1.0. I got rarpd fixed for the ARP_H and ETH_H issue but not for the rest. 14:22 < [anders]> (ah, no, have not tried to build it yet either..) 14:22 < [anders]> huebi: Ok.. I'll grab CVS later.. got some work work to do now.. :) 14:23 < huebi> [anders]: OK. Make big money. *g* 14:24 * [anders] was also surprised to find out that there apperantly is no problem in building an updated glibc on your live box if you want to update it even though the standing advice has always been 'No, Don't! Reinstall instead" 14:24 * [anders] is really curious to find out when this changed..... 14:25 < [anders]> Perhaps I picked the wrong package as an example.. I should have picked something in Gnome instead as the dependencies there are more obscure.. 14:26 < huebi> [anders]: The trick is to replace the lib files atomicly instead of first removing them and then install the new ones. Then you're without them in the time between. 14:27 < [anders]> As in, you want to update Evolution, that requires a later version of bonobo which needs a later version of libbonobo which in turn might require some other package to be updated as it uses libbonobo but the difference in versions of libbonobo is to great for it to carry on working. 14:28 < [anders]> That type of chain of events needs to be handled, and preferably handled correctly.. 14:32 < [anders]> There are all sorts of things that needs to be handled. Remember the update in libz, the security fix? That should trigger updates to a fair few packages that might link statically to libz. I think there was even suggestions that some things using libz should be relinked to ensure things were working. 14:33 < huebi> [anders]: Yes, you're right. In the moment this is an issue for 1.7. To implement it in 1.5 is too much for a new feature. I'd better like to fix the scripts and I only add small (more hardware related things) which are more or less essential like scsiinfo, mt-st, mtx. All programs missing e.g in Slowlaris and which are needed for scsi hardware. 14:34 < huebi> Also nice and userfriendly error handling is needed to get more people faster involved in Rocklinux 14:43 < [anders]> Yes.. But the point I was trying to make on the mailing list was that there might be features missing in ROCK's package handling. 14:43 < [anders]> I guess that making that suggestion did not go down to well.. :) 14:44 < [anders]> For example, if you decide to uninstall libpng, you might break an awful lot of packages that depends on it, will the new ROCK pakage format cope with this and tell you what else you need to uninstall if you do pull out libpng? 15:06 -!- ge0rg is now known as Ge0rG 15:22 -!- Netsplit vinge.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: rolla, fake, rxr 15:22 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr, rolla, fake 15:27 < SMP> [anders]: updating glibc by compiling it has only been deprecated when switching from libc5 to glibc unless you 'know what you are doing' 15:34 < tsa> hehe 15:35 * tsa updated glibc 2.1.3 -> 2.2.5 a while ago. ./scripts/Build-Pkg basically works, but some old .h files were still left on the system. 15:36 < tsa> i'd recommend booting another system, chroot'ing into the old system, pkg-remove / glibc, install the new one, ldconfig, reboot.. 15:39 < huebi> tsa: But what happens after pkg-remove? 15:52 < th> i'd remove the package without chrooting into the target 15:52 < huebi> th: ACK 15:53 < tsa> huebi: you'll have a pretty unusable system.. 15:54 < tsa> huebi: therefore i should have written: remove old glibc while chrooted, install new one while not chroot'ed .. 15:54 < huebi> tsa: jo. I had to mention sth similar with a backup system while restoring a life system. 15:54 < th> tsa: hmm why removing it while being chrooted? 15:55 < th> pkg-remove /trg glibc 15:55 < th> i thought 15:55 < huebi> pkg-install /trg /glibc-new - after that. 15:57 < SMP> why boot into another system? ;> chroot into a rescue system from your production system and remove the libc on the production system from there :> works fine as long as you keep the copy in the chroot 16:00 < huebi> I think almost everything X-related on sparc64 works except the Xserver themselfs 16:11 < [anders]> SMP: da, I hav gathered (after the last few days) that glibc seems to be simple to update. Perhaps a poor example picked by me, but something I asked about back when using 1.3.9 wanting to update to 1.3.10 and then getting strongly discouraged.. 16:12 < th> SMP: hmmm very good. i'll that from now on. 16:12 < th> SMP: that requires nfs mount from production system / into chroot? 16:13 < huebi> th: just copy all needed tstuff to disabled swap. 16:13 < SMP> just mount the filesystems a second time in th chroot 16:13 < SMP> or maybe --bind could work 16:14 < th> i see 16:14 < th> huebi: i could disables swap before 16:14 < th> s,bles,ble, 16:15 < huebi> SMP --bind is not needed. I testet that yesterday (mnount of a filesystem a 2nd time in chroot) 16:16 < huebi> th: of course. And a fs could also be quite handy there. 16:16 < th> hmm? 16:16 < th> an extra fs inside chroot? 16:17 < huebi> on the swap partition, I mean. 16:17 * SMP also notes inits u(pgrade) option 16:18 < th> huebi: why that? 16:18 < th> SMP: where is that documented? 16:18 < SMP> init.8 16:18 < th> hmmm currently on it 16:18 < th> nothing on "/upgrad" 16:19 < huebi> th You can disable swap, mke2fs on swap partition, cp rescue system to swap, chroot swap 16:19 < th> huebi: ok. so i would be almost independent from production fs 16:21 < huebi> th: ACK. zalberich on #reallife told me that he upgraded remotely a debian system like that. 16:21 < th> chroot seems more mightful than i ever thought 16:22 < th> *note to self*: increase size of swap-partitions on new installations 16:25 < SMP> actually, I always keep a dedicated rescue-system on the second partition 16:25 < SMP> and yes, I would not hesitate a single second from reinstalling a system that way 16:26 < SMP> but that would only be necessary if I could not do that from the running system :) 16:27 < th> SMP: btw ich hab hier nen kasten mate fuer dich 16:27 < huebi> SMP leaves the chat... 16:27 < SMP> ja, schoen.. hilft mir ja nicht _so_ viel ;> 16:27 < SMP> huebi: ;-) 16:27 < th> jo ich weiss 16:28 < th> SMP: ausserdem ist dein aktueller bedarf sicher ein wenig groesser, als ich zu decken in der lage bin 16:29 < SMP> 'geht so' 16:29 < SMP> fuer mich alleine ist einer erstmal wieder genug 16:29 < th> ahh 16:29 < th> aber du bist nicht zufaellig in kuerze in md? 16:29 < SMP> andere die das ueber mich beziehen wollen haben eh nix zu melden ;> 16:29 < SMP> th: hatte ich nicht vor 16:31 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 16:31 < Mike1> moin 16:32 < huebi> good morning Miguel 16:34 < Mike1> hi Andreas :) 16:35 < th> hi there, Mike1 16:35 < Mike1> th: :) 16:36 < Mike1> th: you are running apache 2.0 right? 16:38 < th> nak 16:38 < th> Mike1: modpython-support for apache 2.0 is still alpha 16:38 < th> Mike1: and we need modpython 16:38 < th> Mike1: so we are still at 1.3 16:38 < Mike1> th: ah ... 16:40 < Mike1> i am working on having php support, with share module filter, but somehow its braking while running make 16:40 < Mike1> anyways, i am trying the source package from another location... lets see 16:46 < Mike1> grrrr still brakes 16:46 < th> Mike1: perhaps i'm able to give you a hand on this. but for now i need sleep. 16:47 < huebi> Mike1: 2.0.39? 16:47 < Mike1> th: sure go get some sleep 16:47 < Mike1> huebi: yes 16:47 < huebi> Mike1: moment 16:48 < huebi> * GPL warez trading... 16:48 < Mike1> huebi: i had no problem with apache, but i am having problems running make on php it brakes 16:48 < Mike1> :) 16:48 < huebi> source for apache 2.0.39? 16:49 < Mike1> huebi: ? 16:49 < huebi> what can't you download? 16:49 < Mike1> huebi: its not a download problem, is a build problem 16:50 < huebi> of apache or php? 16:50 < Mike1> php 16:50 < Mike1> php 4.2.2 16:50 < [anders]> God Morgon Miguel! :) 16:50 < [anders]> Jag har väntat på dig ett tag nu. :) 16:50 < SMP> Mike1: try the PHP CVS HEAD branch 16:51 < Mike1> god morgon [anders] gee i havent seen you a few days, how is everything? 16:51 < [anders]> Mike1: still very very tired.. At least I am not driving to Essex again tonight.. 16:52 < Mike1> SMP: mmmm..... i dont oftenly like to run cvs sources on production enviroments but i guess i have no other choise 16:52 < Mike1> SMP: i will try it 16:52 < SMP> don't use Apache 2 in production enviroments 16:52 < Mike1> SMP: warun? 16:53 < SMP> still far too unstable 16:53 < SMP> MPMs regularly break in random way 16:53 < Mike1> SMP: i see, so ur advice is stick with 1.3.26? 16:53 < SMP> the documentation is often still plain wrong 16:54 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9E50ED0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:54 < SMP> yes, stick with 1.3 until next year 16:55 < Mike1> SMP: mmm i will follow ur advice Master SMP, thanks :) 17:05 < rolla> re 17:06 < Mike1> hi rolla 17:20 < rolla> how are you doing ? 17:21 < Mike1> rolla: everything cool, you? 17:21 < rolla> same 17:27 < tomik> :) 17:42 < huebi> Ultra 30, time for mozilla: 17:42 < huebi> == 14:03:19 =[3]=> Building base package mozilla [1.0 1.5.18]. 17:44 < huebi> Creating tars/sparc64-mozilla.tar.bz2 ... 17:45 < SMP> not too bad 17:45 < SMP> er 17:45 < huebi> still waiting... 17:45 < SMP> oh, that's not 17:03:19 17:45 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B52f8.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:45 < huebi> hi owl 17:45 < owl> hi 17:45 < huebi> I thought bzip2 is faster. 17:46 < huebi> == 17:46:39 08/07/02 =[3]=> Finished building package mozilla. 17:46 < SMP> bzip2 is dead slow 17:46 < huebi> SMP: But 10 - 15% smaller archies thab gzip. 17:46 -!- owl is now known as _NULL 17:46 < huebi> Time on dual XP1800+: 17:46 < huebi> Build [3] at 08/06/2002 from 06:32:56 to 06:57:34 MEST 17:50 < huebi> the dual XP is slightly more than 9 times faster. 17:52 < huebi> 1533/296 17:52 < huebi> ww 18:07 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:15 -!- Ge0rG is now known as ge0rg 18:36 < [anders]> <- afk. (going home.. 18:36 < [anders]> ) 19:04 -!- wolfpup [~wolfpup@h24-67-44-116.lb.shawcable.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:04 < wolfpup> hello all 19:05 < blindcoder> hi 19:05 < _NULL> hi blindy 19:05 < _NULL> hil wolfpup 19:05 < wolfpup> hello 19:05 < wolfpup> everyone havin a good day so far? 19:06 < blindcoder> well... not really, but thanks for asking. how are you? 19:06 < _NULL> good day? wtf is that? *looking_in_dictionary_for_explanation* 19:06 < wolfpup> im fine thanks 19:07 < wolfpup> I'm looking at Rock Linux now, how are you finding it? 19:09 < Mike1> wolfpup: https://download.rocklinux.de 19:09 < wolfpup> yeah, I'm there, thanks 19:10 < blindcoder> really good if you have (like me) some "speacial" hardware like fixed-frequency monitors that need special framebuffer in the installation-kernel and if you don't like bloated distributions and like knowing what actually _happens_ inside your system 19:11 < wolfpup> yeah, I use RH on 2 machines and Mandrake on one, and I'm tired of all the extras I never use 19:12 < wolfpup> I'll read some more, thanks 19:12 < blindcoder> haven't tried any of those two 19:12 < _NULL> but RH (7.3) is imho not bad... 19:13 < wolfpup> well, I tried it 19:14 < _NULL> hm. what do you need in linux? what was unused in RH, when you tried it? 19:14 < wolfpup> well, I dont use netscape or mozilla (prefer Opera) 19:15 < wolfpup> and in 7.3 I had no lynx for example, and a lot of other things wouldnt work as good as 7.1 19:15 < _NULL> then choose "manual installation" (or something like that) - it's quite ok... and install opera manually 19:15 < wolfpup> couldn't compile Epic for one 19:15 < _NULL> hmhm. 19:15 < wolfpup> even after running up2date 19:16 < _NULL> hm. the "kernel updates" r very "funny" (zynism) i guess... 19:16 < wolfpup> yeah 19:16 < wolfpup> I just got a burner, so been looking at all the distros 19:17 < wolfpup> I like the looks of Rock tho, might be ontrack with my needs 19:17 < _NULL> i see. tstststs... choose rock :) it's the best ;P 19:17 < wolfpup> heh 19:17 < wolfpup> brb, doorbell 19:17 < _NULL> don't laugh. it's forbidden ;P 19:26 < wolfpup> okay 19:26 < wolfpup> well seems I'm needed elsewhere, so I'll be back, thanks for the info 19:26 * wolfpup is away 19:27 < _NULL> ok. have fun. :-/ 19:43 < rxr> re 19:44 < _NULL> hi rxr 19:44 < Mike1> rxr: hallo! 19:44 < blindcoder> hi rxr 19:45 < rxr> oh my ISP's line is back to normal ; with "286.34 kBit/s" 19:46 < rxr> is s.th. important to know ? 19:46 < huebi> rxr: When do you start to fix the linux* packages in 1.5? 19:50 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-494.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 19:50 < plfiorini> hi 19:52 -!- plfiorini is now known as plpappa 19:55 < rxr> huebi: I wrote to you that I had not the time before my hliday. And I'm still not back ... Did noone other had time to fix the packages ? 19:56 < rxr> huebi: I'll be back in Berlin on Monday. I can fix them in that week ... 19:56 * rxr now swithcing thmy brother's modem off ... cu 19:56 < _NULL> cu rxr 19:56 < huebi> rxr: The code is quite complicated, not as easy to understand, at least for me, to fix it. Ok. You're still in holiday. Have big fun there. Perhaps we can alltogeter get it running next weekend. 19:57 < huebi> in Vienna 19:58 * Mike1 away for lunch 20:04 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-494.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 20:04 -!- plpappa [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-494.tin.it] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:10 -!- lmay [lmay@world.cabal1.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:13 -!- lmay [lmay@world.cabal1.net] has quit (Client Quit) 20:14 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9E50ED0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:33 < Mike1> Anyone would like recommend me a webmail package? doesnt matter if it needs pop3 or imap2 20:33 * Mike1 looking for new options 20:34 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-494.tin.it] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:37 < SMP> Mike1: frederick, openwebmail, v-webmail, jawmail, ilohamail 20:37 < SMP> every webmail app is fucked up in a slightly differeny way, tho 20:38 < Mike1> SMP: yeah i know but oh some people are just to stupid to use mutt 20:39 < Mike1> anyways i will have a look at those packages, thank you 20:39 < SMP> they should use pine. ;) 20:39 < SMP> pine is for people who are afraid of computers. 20:39 < huebi> pine is really easy. At least for me. 20:39 < huebi> + to use 20:39 < SMP> sure 20:40 < Mike1> SMP: you mean like those who think a computer can explote or something just touching it? 20:40 < SMP> that's what I meant 'afraid of computers' ;> 20:40 < Mike1> :) 20:40 * SMP wonders why lmay doesn't come back ;-O 20:42 < SMP> apropos pine 20:42 * SMP likes his new mutt setup with imap over ssh ;-} 20:43 < Mike1> sounds very cool 20:43 < Mike1> *g 20:47 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-494.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 20:53 < fake> hi 20:53 < _NULL> hi 20:57 < Mike1> lo fake 20:58 < huebi> hi fake 20:59 < rolla> re fake 21:19 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9E50ED0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:27 < huebi> I like finger. 1st use after 3 years and the one hase a .plan 21:30 < fake> frauen kriegen ja auch keinen... oder? 21:31 < fake> *g* 21:31 * fake bibbert vor angst 21:31 * _NULL ist heute zu friedlich. bzw. zu down um sich zu beschweren 21:31 < huebi> *AuWEIA* 21:31 < _NULL> hm... viel spass am freitag... und nicht wundern, woher die schnitte am handruecken kommen 21:32 < fake> vom haargel? 21:32 < huebi> Does somebody know a fingerd _without_ 150+ exploits? 21:33 < rolla> :) 21:47 < SMP> yes, it's funny. finger is such a dead simple protocol 22:01 < huebi> booting a SUN IPC or IPX with rarpd and tftpd is not so easy it seems. At least the debian stuff fails different on both machines. 22:07 -!- SMP is now known as NUMA 22:07 -!- NUMA is now known as SMP 22:07 < huebi> o_O SMP has new hardware uprade 22:09 -!- SMP is now known as UMA 22:09 < UMA> n8 22:09 < huebi> n8 UMA 22:16 -!- ge0rg is now known as Ge0rG 22:18 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9525047.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:18 < tsa> Yesssss!!! 22:18 < tsa> online again. 22:18 < huebi> tsa: kooooool 22:18 < tsa> <- happy. 22:18 < _NULL> hi tsa 22:18 < tsa> got my new dsl modem 22:18 < tsa> oh...kaffee? *duck* 22:19 < tsa> hi _NULL 22:19 < _NULL> hmm... telekomiker 'nen messer an die kehle gehalten? 22:19 < _NULL> kaffee. noe 22:19 < tsa> neee, hat sogar so geklappt.. 22:19 < _NULL> wahnsinn... unglaublich. 22:21 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9E50ED0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I like core dumps") 22:21 * _NULL sollte mal mit einem messer in den bus steigen... und dem fahrer drohen, wenn er nicht puenktlich abfahert... 22:21 < _NULL> *zyn* 22:21 < snyke> hrhr 22:25 < fake> h tsay 22:25 < fake> -< 22:25 < tsa> hi fake 22:32 -!- tsa_ [~tsa@pD9E11F35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:32 < tsa_> narf. 22:33 < tsa_> scheiss schaltleiste. 22:33 < tsa_> scheiss katzenvieh. 22:33 < tsa_> *tret* 22:33 < fake> *squeek* 22:33 < huebi> tsa: besser *schiess* 22:33 < tsa_> ACK!!!!! 22:33 < fake> *sq33k* 22:33 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9525047.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: tsa_!~tsa@pD9E11F35.dip.t-dialin.net))) 22:33 -!- tsa_ is now known as tsa 22:33 < _NULL> huebi"! hier! mich!!! erschiessen! 22:34 < huebi> https://www.waffenhq.de/infanterie/desert-eagle.htm <- dmit. Bester Katzentoter von Welt. 22:34 < huebi> +a 22:34 < huebi> +e 22:34 < _NULL> und welche waffe fuer menschen??? also zum gehirnwegschiessen??? 22:35 < huebi> mirconukes sollen da ganz gut sein 22:35 < _NULL> hmm... 22:35 < _NULL> wie viel kosten die??? 22:35 < _NULL> wo gibt's die´? 22:35 < huebi> Sadam fragen, der sucht die auch. 22:36 < _NULL> hmm... haste seine email-adresse? *zyn* 22:36 < huebi> ...bekannt aus Funk und Faernseen 22:37 < _NULL> jaja. nur uber radio und tv kann man so schlecht mit sadam kommunizieren... ich brauche schon email... inkl seinem pgpkey... 22:40 < tsa> _NULL: Einen Kaffee, bitte. 22:40 < _NULL> ja. mit gift 22:40 < _NULL> aber den brauche ich dann selbst 22:40 < tsa> nein danke. schwarz reicht. 22:40 < fake> ah, mir auch 22:40 < _NULL> (aber eines, das schnell toetet) 22:40 < fake> oder Kaba 22:40 < _NULL> noe 22:40 < fake> "mit" 22:41 < _NULL> fake: noe. 22:43 < huebi> Also ein muss man dem SUN Geraffel ja lassen. Wenn's net will, dann will es net. 22:44 < huebi> Using TP Ethernet Interface 22:44 < huebi> External loopback test -- Lost Carrier (transceiver cable problem?) 22:44 < huebi> Autonegotiation failed. 22:45 * fake killed his own dumb self 22:46 < Mike1> fake: whats up? 22:46 < fake> Mike1: UT ;-) 22:46 < Mike1> ? 22:46 < huebi> fake: hehe 22:47 < huebi> Mike1: Ultra Turnament - Sth like Quke 22:47 < fake> Mike1: i was quoting a line from Umreal TOurnament i see pretty often when playing ;) 22:47 < huebi> quake 22:48 < Mike1> ah i see 22:48 < _NULL> fake: you're losing often in UT? why not enabling "god-mode"? ;P 22:48 * Mike1 is not into gaming since a long ago now 22:48 < fake> because cheating suxx big time 22:48 < fake> and dying doesn't mean loosing 22:48 < _NULL> fake: but it's great if you kill everything and everyone 22:48 < fake> as long as i have twice as many frags as deaths ;) 22:49 < huebi> I only play text adventures like rocklinux 22:49 < Mike1> fake: got an url to get it? or do i have to purchase it? 22:49 < fake> huebi: UT is good for relaxing 22:49 < _NULL> huebi: nice game. but i'm too stupid for it 22:49 * _NULL is too stupid for everything 22:49 < fake> Mike1 "purchase" : www.edonkey2000.com 22:49 < huebi> _NULL: That will change in very near future 22:49 < fake> www.sharereactor.com -> Linux Ureal Tournament 22:50 < fake> you will learn how to make coffee at clifford's *g* 22:50 < _NULL> huebi: no. cuz in my head, there's no brain. no brain --> stupid. no chance to change something 22:50 < _NULL> fake: no 22:50 < fake> we will train your muscles directly 22:51 * _NULL takes a gun and shots fake 22:51 < _NULL> sorry, fake 22:51 < Mike1> fake: and hse has no brain i am sure there could be a brain implant or something :) 22:51 < fake> you missed. *BABOOOOOM* 22:51 < _NULL> damn. 22:52 < Mike1> _NULL: the pink laptop was more eficient than the gun 22:52 < _NULL> Mike1: no. 22:52 < fake> NOOO! NOT THE PINK HELLO-KITTY-Laptop! 22:52 < _NULL> fake: wtf do you mean? 22:52 < Mike1> fake: hehe 22:53 * _NULL takes a gun and shots Mike1, too 22:53 < _NULL> enemy spotted 22:53 < _NULL> shot! 22:53 < _NULL> btw, where's bill gates??? 22:53 < Mike1> _NULL: sorry you missed! 22:53 < _NULL> damn. :-/ 22:54 < _NULL> i'm even too silly to shot someone. 22:54 < Mike1> _NULL: its ur father you should now 22:54 < _NULL> Mike1: nooooooooooooo! 22:54 < Mike1> _NULL Gates ... :) 22:54 < fake> i love my blubsi 22:55 < _NULL> Mike1: i understood what you meant, but he's not my dad 22:55 < _NULL> fake: you love _what_??? 22:55 < fake> my blubsi. 22:55 < _NULL> what is it? 22:55 < _NULL> blubsi??? haeh??? *confused* 22:55 < fake> it's small, it's brown-red and it goes bubblebubblebuubble 22:56 < fake> it's about 15cm high ... 22:56 < _NULL> hmmm...??? 22:56 < fake> and has 3 holes... 22:56 < _NULL> cat??? or what? 22:56 < Mike1> _NULL: will you marry Bill Gates? 22:56 < _NULL> Mike1: no. 22:56 < fake> a big one, a thighter one and really small one 22:57 < fake> and now i go telefragging. 22:57 < fake> *waves* cya 22:57 < _NULL> hm. bye 22:57 < Mike1> cu fake 22:58 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@p5082BD6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:58 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@p5082BD6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:06 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/") 23:22 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 23:22 < huebi> hi d3mian 23:22 < d3mian> hi all, huebi 23:23 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-494.tin.it] has quit ("g'night") 23:29 < tsa> hi d3mian 23:43 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D473.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:43 < thalerim> moin 23:43 < _NULL> moin thalerim 23:43 < d3mian> hi thalerim 23:44 * thalerim is @, the avater, a chaotic elven Wizard. 23:45 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly|nethack 23:45 < thaly|nethack> ;) 23:46 < thaly|nethack> any nethack players here? 23:49 < huebi> hi thaly|nethack --- Log closed Thu Aug 08 00:00:41 2002