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--- Log opened Thu Aug 08 00:00:41 2002 --- Day changed Thu Aug 08 2002 00:08 * tsa going to bed - cu all. 00:08 < huebi> cu tsa 00:09 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E11F35.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:13 * d3mian building gcc 00:13 < d3mian> cu later too 00:13 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has left #rocklinux () 00:13 < huebi> cu d 00:13 < _NULL> huebi: too late, eh? ;) 00:13 < thaly|nethack> lol 00:14 < thaly|nethack> in nethack: 00:14 < thaly|nethack> You read: "For a good t?me c??? 8?7-5?09". 00:14 < huebi> _NULL: akc 00:14 < _NULL> huebi: *lol* 00:15 < _NULL> huebi: tired or almost dead? ;) 00:16 < huebi> tired 00:16 < _NULL> i c 00:17 < thaly|nethack> go sleeping huebi, you've deserved it ;) 00:17 -!- thaly|nethack is now known as thalerim 00:18 < huebi> thaly|nethack: Now I'm feeling a little bit better. I seept very much today, perhaps I'm a little bit cold. 00:20 < huebi> scsiinfo is now added to 1.5. Very kool to test broken hard disks 00:21 < thalerim> but i will do so in some minutes, but before I will play once again nethack (*grrr* dying all the time isn't that funny!) 00:21 < thalerim> scsiinfo ... broken hard disk? I only know of badblocks 00:21 < _NULL> thalerim: in RL it would be more funny 00:22 < huebi> with scsiinfo you can read the grown defekts list. Then you really see if it's broken or not 00:22 < thalerim> aaaah _NULL ... go away ... ZOMBIE ... *amulet begins to glimmer* 00:22 * Mike1 cant wait for Cabalt RAQ LX to come out, so he can load ROCK on it :) 00:22 < thalerim> huebi: but only for scsi hds? 00:22 < _NULL> thalerim: *ggg* not zombie. 3v1l 00:23 < huebi> thalerim: ACK. 00:24 < thalerim> well, i am setting up a 266mhz pentium II(?) ... to install linux on it and accesing the internet trough a winrouter (actually this PC here) 00:24 < thalerim> ... this PC here i am sitting toward) 00:24 < huebi> thalerim: jo 00:25 < thalerim> but the 266er has two scsi hds :-) 00:26 < huebi> thalerim: test them. 00:26 < huebi> ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/ALPHA/scsi/scsiinfo-1.7.tar.gz 00:28 < thalerim> i think there it's available as a rock-package 00:28 < thalerim> s,there,, 00:29 < huebi> not in 1.5 00:29 < thalerim> <huebi> scsiinfo is now added to 1.5. Very kool to test broken hard disks <-- ???? 00:30 < huebi> erm. Now it's in 1.5. Before it was not. 00:31 < Mike1> gn8 all 00:31 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 00:31 < thalerim> yes ... but when the pc is set up, i'll able to download the rock source ... and so the most recent including this pkg 00:32 < huebi> thalerim: Yes. it's now in cvs 00:32 < huebi> and will be in 1.5.19 00:36 < thalerim> urgs! died again 00:36 < thalerim> due to illness *pfff* 00:37 < huebi> thalerim: looooser! :P 00:37 < thalerim> hey, i am playing it early for 3hours 00:38 < huebi> thalerim: Then You should be a MASTER 00:39 * _NULL leaves you now. 00:39 < _NULL> cu. gn8 00:39 < huebi> cu ow 00:39 < thalerim> no, I wasn't fallen into the kettle of magical trank that was provied by Mathilda as you was, so ... i am not the Master at all 00:39 < thalerim> gn8 00:40 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B52f8.pppool.de] has quit ("back to fscking reality") 00:40 < thalerim> s,was,were,2 00:40 < huebi> ____________________________ 00:40 < huebi> < Thalerim. Become a MASTER. > 00:40 < huebi> ---------------------------- 00:40 < huebi> \ ^__^ 00:40 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______ 00:40 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 00:40 < huebi> ||----w | 00:40 < huebi> || || 00:40 < thalerim> at moment i am just an adjurer ... but i am going to increase my skill 00:42 < huebi> _________________________________________ 00:42 < huebi> < Thalerim. You're better than you think. > 00:42 < huebi> ----------------------------------------- 00:42 < huebi> \ ^__^ 00:42 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______ 00:42 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 00:42 < huebi> ||----w | 00:42 < huebi> || || 00:43 < thalerim> i am t... iiired... 00:43 < huebi> thalerim: More coffee. 00:43 < huebi> sleep can't substitute real cafeine 00:44 < thalerim> actually i wanna go sleep, because i 'll have training tomorrow ... 00:46 < huebi> sleep well then.. ;-) 00:49 < huebi> mtx 1.2.16rel added. Program to control tape and MO vchangers 00:54 < thalerim> so, gute nacht 00:54 < huebi> nacht thalerim 00:54 < thalerim> schlaft alle schön ... und huebi, geh früh ins bett ;) 00:55 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D473.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ich bin ein Teil von jener Kraft, die Böses will, doch Gutes schafft.") 01:38 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9E50ED0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:40 < huebi> tach chrisime 01:40 < chrisime> jo 01:41 < chrisime> www.gnome.org/~chrisime/files/pix/Screenshot.png 01:41 < chrisime> sieht nett aus, gell? 01:42 < Ge0rG> das font-rendering sieht etwas komisch aus 01:43 < chrisime> j 01:43 < chrisime> a 01:43 < chrisime> liegt an der schrift -> X 01:43 < chrisime> kann man nix machen 01:43 < chrisime> xft2 wird besser 01:43 < Ge0rG> tahoma nehmen *duck* 01:44 < chrisime> hmm 01:44 < chrisime> hatte comic sans serif 01:45 * Ge0rG hat tahoma und gdk-xft in einer uralt-version, aber es sieht im browser genial aus... allerdings hab ich auch subpixel-rendering aufm TFT 01:46 < chrisime> hab verdana jetyt 01:46 < chrisime> tahoma gibts hier net 01:47 < Ge0rG> tahoma kann man kostenlos von microsoft.com downloaden ;) 01:47 < huebi> chrisime: Gnome2 haelt wohl bald Einzug in 1.5 01:48 < Ge0rG> warum hat man da eigentlich müll auf dem desktop? ;) 01:49 < chrisime> warum_ 01:49 < chrisime> so halt 01:50 < chrisime> 1.5 01:50 < chrisime> das ist dann 1.6 01:50 < chrisime> und 1.7 is auch so ne dev version 01:50 < huebi> chrisime: Ist dein neues Tastaturlayout noch ungewohnt? *g* 01:50 < chrisime> (verwirr* 01:50 < chrisime> muss wieder auf us key umstellen 01:51 < chrisime> wollt nur ¤ probieren 01:51 < huebi> chrisime: gut so. 01:51 < chrisime> so 01:51 < chrisime> amikeymap wieder 01:51 < huebi> 1.5 wird jetzt sehr bald 1.6 01:51 < huebi> 1.6.0 ist dann die offizielle stabile Rocklinux version. 01:52 < chrisime> werd ich mir dann draufknallen 01:52 < huebi> Es braucht noch so einiges an bugfixes und an Erweiterungen fuer die Benutzerfreundlichkeit. 01:52 < chrisime> ajo 01:53 < chrisime> schon gesehen was openbsd macht 01:53 < chrisime> bzw. n paar jungs 01:53 < huebi> chrisime: Freut mich das zu hoeren. 01:53 < chrisime> www.gobie.net 01:54 < chrisime> aufm laptop hab ich gentoo momentan 01:54 < chrisime> ist recht net 01:54 < chrisime> t 01:54 < chrisime> und v.a. flott 01:54 < chrisime> und sehr klein 01:54 < chrisime> 9 MB wenn der kernel mit allem hochgeladen ist 01:54 < chrisime> und 35 wenn gnome mit X da ist 01:55 < huebi> mit rocklinux hast du das aehnlich klein. Und du kannst es dir selber einfacher zusammenstellen. Rocklinux ist sozusagen besser als Distributionsbuildkit zu sehen 01:56 < chrisime> gentoo ist auch ziemlich feinkoernig zu konfigurieren 01:56 < chrisime> laeuft endlich zufriedenstellend nach 2 anlaeufen 01:56 < huebi> jo, stimmt. 01:57 < chrisime> und die sind seeeeeehr aktuell mit den portages 01:57 < huebi> rock 1.5 ist aktueller *g* 01:59 < chrisime> sicher? 01:59 < huebi> das mit dem aktuell ist so eine Sache. Oft funktioniert mit dem brandneuiestem Kram irgend etwas wieder nicht mehr. 01:59 < chrisime> ich kanns ja mal just for fun wo raufknallen 01:59 < chrisime> meine pladde is eh leer 01:59 < chrisime> und die andere wo debian drauf war ist schrottware 02:00 < chrisime> 67 GB frei oder so 02:00 < huebi> ftp://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.18/rock-ia32-i586-base+opt-1.5.18.iso <- die neueste 02:00 < chrisime> hmm 02:01 < chrisime> iso brennen 02:01 < chrisime> wie gross 02:01 < chrisime> ? 02:01 < huebi> 569MB 02:01 < huebi> ca 02:01 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50817A4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:01 < chrisime> is das ccompliziert zum installieren? 02:01 < huebi> jo, alles compiliert. 02:02 < huebi> erm 02:02 < huebi> mein 02:02 < huebi> nein 02:02 < chrisime> i586 gibts net i686? 02:02 < chrisime> alles fertig? 02:02 < huebi> jo, alles fertig 02:03 < huebi> https://rocklinux.dyndns.org/howtos/Rocklinux_installation_de.html 02:05 < chrisime> moment 02:05 < chrisime> muss die daten rueberschaufeln 02:06 < huebi> Ich mach immer nur einen upload von i586. das braucht pro image immer 10 -13h 02:12 < chrisime> ouch 02:12 < chrisime> also 02:12 < chrisime> ich lad mal die 10 gigs aufm laptop 02:16 < chrisime> hast glueck dass die pladden schnell sind 02:16 < chrisime> die eine hat knapp 50 MB/s *g* 02:16 < huebi> nett 02:17 < chrisime> jo 02:17 < chrisime> ist n edles stueck 02:17 < chrisime> 8 MB cache 02:17 < chrisime> da geht was 02:18 < huebi> jo, sowas macht richtig Spass 02:18 < chrisime> mhm 02:18 < chrisime> v.a. hoff ich dass die net den geist aufgibt 02:18 < chrisime> die IBM sind ja schrecklich geworden :*( 02:19 < huebi> ACK 02:19 < chrisime> ic35 reihe gehoert aus dem verkehr 02:19 * chrisime held 02:20 < chrisime> ich habs mounten vergessen und wundere mich dass schon no space left ist 02:20 < huebi> weia 02:20 < chrisime> die im laptop is au net 02:20 < chrisime> die hoert man net 02:20 < chrisime> gelgelagert oder so 02:20 < chrisime> is ne toshiba is au leiser als die ibm die ich erst drin hatte 02:21 < huebi> fluidbearings. 02:21 < chrisime> gibts leider nur bis 20 GB 02:21 < chrisime> und s gibt schon 60er mittlerweile 02:21 < chrisime> ich haett die ibm mit 48 GB recht gern 02:22 < huebi> 200GB gibts schon in 2.5" von IGM. Aber nur als muster 02:22 < chrisime> 200GB? 02:22 < huebi> jo 02:22 < chrisime> da gibts jetzt grad mal ne desktop version von WD 02:22 < huebi> 400 in 3.5" 02:22 < chrisime> kostet 400eier 02:23 < chrisime> ich glaub ich lass die pladde richten, verkauf die und kauf mir noch ne 80er 02:23 < huebi> jo, 02:23 < chrisime> waaaaas? 02:23 < chrisime> schon wieder voll! 02:24 < chrisime> *kratz* 02:25 < chrisime> der hat wieder auf / kopiert 02:25 < chrisime> der hirsch 02:26 < chrisime> argh 02:33 < huebi> n8 02:33 < chrisime> oh 02:34 < chrisime> na dann 02:34 < chrisime> ich reiss dir die birne runter 02:34 < chrisime> wenn was danach net geht 02:34 < chrisime> ;) 02:34 < huebi> *g* 02:34 < chrisime> hmpf 02:34 < chrisime> wollt ins bett 02:34 < chrisime> wird wieder nix 04:03 -!- kaerF [freak@pD9E392A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:09 -!- Freak [freak@p50839856.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: kaerF!freak@pD9E392A0.dip.t-dialin.net))) 04:09 -!- kaerF is now known as Freak 04:29 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E392A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04:34 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9E50ED0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I like core dumps") 04:36 -!- Freak [freak@pD95308F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:48 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit ("Irssi - the client of smart and beautiful people") 05:20 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:23 < sockmonk> hi everyone 05:24 < sockmonk> ping 06:22 -!- sockmonk [~wsheldahl@moose.qx.net] has quit ("leaving") 07:38 -!- Hioki [~ceduardo@63.101.133.12] has joined #rocklinux 07:38 < Hioki> hello world 07:49 -!- Hioki is now known as Hioki|cvsgnome 08:16 -!- Hioki|cvsgnome is now known as Hioki^zzZZ 08:38 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:58 < huebi> moin zusammen. 10:58 < huebi> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ps-08.08.02-000/ <- *LOOL* 11:17 < rxr> re 11:18 < huebi> moin rene 11:19 < rxr> moin 11:19 < rxr> just my dayly email session ... 11:19 < huebi> nice. ;-) 11:20 < huebi> I think it would be a good idea to get the kernel configuration of 1.7 backported to 1.5. Nice issue for Wien. 11:25 < rxr> I'll be not there ... 11:26 < huebi> I know. But what do you think about it? 11:26 < huebi> The Sparc64 configuration is, at least for me, unchangeable. 11:26 < rxr> sure - it should be backported correctly ... 11:27 < huebi> ok. I'll do my best on that issue in Wien. 11:27 < rxr> ok - me offline - cu 11:28 < huebi> cu rxr 11:34 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:36 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:36 < holyolli> moin 11:38 < huebi> _________________ 11:38 < huebi> < Hallo, holyolli > 11:38 < huebi> ----------------- 11:38 < huebi> \ 11:38 < huebi> \ \_\_ _/_/ 11:38 < huebi> \ \__/ 11:38 < huebi> (oo)\_______ 11:38 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 11:38 < huebi> ||----w | 11:38 < huebi> || || 11:38 < huebi> 11:38 < holyolli> *fg* 11:39 < holyolli> huhu huebi :)) 11:39 < Ge0rG> hi folks 11:39 < huebi> hi Ge0rG 11:40 < holyolli> hi Ge0rG 12:12 < holyolli> cya l8ter 12:12 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("X-Chat: strong enough for a man, pH-balanced for a woman") 12:41 < [anders]> 2.4.20-pre1-ac1 available.. -pre1 has some Sparc and Sparc64 fixes in it.. 12:43 < Ge0rG> maybe the soundchip on the krups ebus finally works? ;) 12:44 < [anders]> dunno.. was just browsing the 2.4.20 log.. :) 12:48 < huebi> moin [anders] ;-) Nice to see you. 13:05 < [anders]> huebi: hello there Andreas, how are you today? :) 13:06 < huebi> fine. 13:06 * [anders] watched Lord of the Rings last night.. It really is an excellent film.. 13:08 < huebi> I meet a friend this evening. He will give me his movies for the develop meeting in Vienna. ~300 CDs and 2x80GB disks 13:10 < [anders]> hehehe, should take a while to look through all that.. 13:11 < huebi> Yes. ;-) 13:12 < huebi> [anders]: I only have an upload speed of ~1MByte/s. If you want some you can get them next week. 13:15 < [anders]> huebi: nah, it's alright.. But thanks for the offer.. :) 13:16 < [anders]> I don't watch films that often, there isn't enough time in the day to do all I would like to do.. 13:17 -!- ghostboy [~chatzilla@c17860.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #rocklinux 13:17 < [anders]> LotR is such a good film though I could watch it over and over again... 13:17 < ghostboy> hello all 13:17 < [anders]> The bit when they are in the mines of Moria is very very good.. :) 13:17 < [anders]> moin ghostboy 13:17 < huebi> I know that time issue, too. I don't watch films often, I even have no TV. There are 2 TV-cards but I don't like to through a cable through the whole flat. 13:18 < ghostboy> i need some redhat help 13:18 < [anders]> ghostboy: what's the question? (can't guarantee correct answer.. ) 13:18 < [anders]> I'll try though. :) 13:19 < ghostboy> i need to know how to set up my DVD in redhat 13:19 < huebi> ghostboy: Ask. I have a still not opend 7.2 laying here arround. 13:19 < ghostboy> i got 7.3 13:19 < ghostboy> kde has had a bit of a rev 13:19 < huebi> ghostboy: What do you want to do exactly? 13:19 < [anders]> ghostboy: define 'set up DVD' 13:20 < ghostboy> well it knows i have a cdrom, well 2 actually 13:20 < ghostboy> but one is actually a advd 13:20 < ghostboy> and when i try to run xine 13:20 < ghostboy> it says i dont have one 13:20 < ghostboy> so im presuming its not set up 13:20 < ghostboy> :( 13:20 < [anders]> ghostboy: ln -s /dev/cdrom0 /dev/dvd (if cdrom0 is your DVD drive) 13:21 < [anders]> IIRC xine looks for /dev/dvd to play films.. 13:21 < ghostboy> whats ln? 13:21 < ghostboy> link? 13:21 < [anders]> yep 13:21 < huebi> o_O 13:21 < ghostboy> in fstab there in no entry for /dev/etc 13:21 < ghostboy> its all /dev/cdrom 13:22 < ghostboy> none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 13:22 < ghostboy> none /proc proc defaults 0 0 13:22 < ghostboy> none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 13:22 < ghostboy> /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 13:22 < ghostboy> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 13:22 < ghostboy> /dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 13:22 < ghostboy> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 13:22 < ghostboy> /dev/hdb1 /mnt/vfat vfat defaults 1 1 13:22 < ghostboy> but one is a dvd 13:22 < huebi> ghostboy: which one? 13:22 < ghostboy> ill find out 13:22 < huebi> I bet /dev/cdrom1 13:23 < ghostboy> its /dev/cdrom 13:23 < [anders]> ghostboy: /dev/cdrom is perhaps already a symlink to /dev/cdrom0 13:23 < ghostboy> soz 13:23 < [anders]> ghostboy: in that case, "ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd" 13:24 < ghostboy> now? 13:24 < ghostboy> now what 13:24 < [anders]> try xine again.. :) 13:24 < ghostboy> one sec :) 13:24 * [anders] is sure that this is mentioned in the Xine README... 13:25 < [anders]> long time since I built Xine.. version 0.5 something I think.. :) 13:26 < ghostboy> now it says there is no xine-ui avaliable 13:26 < ghostboy> i guess i need to get that 13:26 < ghostboy> off the net 13:27 < ghostboy> will the link still be good after reboot 13:28 < ghostboy> hello? 13:28 < huebi> ghostboy: jo 13:28 < ghostboy> what happened? 13:28 < huebi> if you don't use devfs 13:29 < ghostboy> whats devfs? 13:29 < th> a virtual filesystem for device-files 13:29 < th> moin 13:29 < huebi> moin th 13:29 < ghostboy> thanks 13:30 < huebi> ghostboy: "ls /dev/* |wc -l" 13:30 < huebi> ghostboy: what number do you get? 13:31 < th> hehehe 13:31 < ghostboy> 14217 13:31 < th> that NO devfs 13:31 < ghostboy> is this a joke on the noob lol 13:31 < th> no 13:31 < th> with devfs the device-files are structured 13:31 < th> there are some directories 13:32 < huebi> ghostboy: Definitly no devfs. 13:32 < ghostboy> oh lol, how do i change my hostname to survive a reboot? 13:32 < th> ghostboy: hostname is set on boot. most distributions set it from content of /et/HOSTNAME 13:33 < huebi> vi /etc/HOSTNAME <- put your hostname in it. 13:33 < ghostboy> there is no /etc/HOSTNAME , should i create one? 13:33 < th> no 13:33 < ghostboy> so then what? 13:33 < th> you should have a look where your distributions sets the hostname 13:33 < th> ghostboy: what distribution? 13:33 < ghostboy> well... 13:33 < ghostboy> RH 7.3 13:34 < th> do you have /etc/init.d 13:34 < th> ? 13:34 < ghostboy> yeah 13:34 < ghostboy> of course 13:34 < th> cd into it 13:34 < th> and "grep hostname *" 13:35 < ghostboy> nothing 13:35 < th> very strange 13:35 < ghostboy> anacron cups ipchains kudzu nfslock random smb xfs 13:35 < ghostboy> apmd functions iptables lpd nscd rawdevices snmpd xinetd 13:35 < ghostboy> atd gpm kdcrotate netfs ntpd rhnsd snmptrapd ypbind 13:35 < ghostboy> autofs halt keytable network portmap sendmail syslog 13:35 < ghostboy> crond identd killall nfs radvd single winbind 13:35 < ghostboy> thats my init.d 13:35 < ghostboy> there is a command hostname <name> 13:35 < ghostboy> but it doesnt survive a reboot 13:35 < th> yea and it sets the hostname. but it must be called for every boot 13:36 < ghostboy> yeah 13:36 < th> so it should be done via init-scripts 13:36 < huebi> "grep hostname /etc/*" 13:36 < ghostboy> oh 13:36 < th> or "grep -r hostname /etc" 13:36 < huebi> or "grep -rl hostname /etc" 13:36 < huebi> ;-) 13:36 < th> huebi: these fscking "i-do-it-another-way"-distributions... 13:36 < huebi> th ACK ACK ACK 13:36 < ghostboy> halt 13:36 < ghostboy> ipchains 13:36 < ghostboy> rhnsd 13:37 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 init.d]# cd .. 13:37 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# cd .. 13:37 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 /]# grep hostname /etc/*" 13:37 < ghostboy> > 13:37 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 /]# grep -r hostname /etc* 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup: if need_hostname; then 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup: PUMPARGS="${PUMPARGS} --lookup-hostname" 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-wireless: NICKNAME=`/bin/hostname` 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post:# don't set hostname on ppp/slip connections 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post: if need_hostname; then 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post: eval `/bin/ipcalc --silent --hostname ${IPADDR}` 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post: set_hostname $HOSTNAME 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions:need_hostname() 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions: if [ "`hostname`" = "(none)" -o "`hostname`" = "localhost" -o \ 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions: "`hostname`" = "localhost.localdomain" ]; then 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions:set_hostname() 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/network-functions: hostname $1 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess:# pattern list of hostnames and/or macros ... 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess:# pattern CHOOSER list of hostnames and/or macros ... 13:37 < th> ok 13:37 < ghostboy> Binary file /etc/X11/X matches 13:37 < th> enough 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/csh.cshrc: set prompt=\[`id -nu`@`hostname -s`\]\$\ 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/csh.login:setenv HOSTNAME `/bin/hostname` 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/profile:HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname` 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/services:hostname 101/tcp hostnames # usually from sri-nic 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/services:hostname 101/udp hostnames # usually from sri-nic 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/rc.d/rc:# things, such as setting the hostname. 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname` 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:# Set the hostname. 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit:action $"Setting hostname ${HOSTNAME}: " hostname ${HOSTNAME} 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: # Reset the hostname. 13:37 < ghostboy> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit: action $"Resetting hostname ${HOSTNAME}: " hostname ${HOSTNAME} 13:37 < ghostboy> Binary file /etc/alternatives/mta matches 13:37 < th> ahhh 13:37 < ghostboy> Binary file /etc/alternatives/mta-mailq matches 13:38 < ghostboy> Binary file /etc/alternatives/mta-newaliases matches 13:38 < th> it's getting interestin 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cron.daily/00-logwatch: $HostName = `hostname`; 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/mail/helpfile:helo HELO <hostname> 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/mail/helpfile:ehlo EHLO <hostname> 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/mail/helpfile:etrn ETRN [ <hostname> | @<domain> | #<queuename> ] 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/mail/helpfile:etrn Run the queue for the specified <hostname>, or 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/mail/helpfile:-bt /canon hostname :try to canonify hostname. 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/info-dir:* hostname: (sh-utils)hostname invocation. Print or set system name. 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/rc:# things, such as setting the hostname. 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/client.conf:# ServerName: the hostname of your server. By default CUPS will use the 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/client.conf:# hostname of the system or the value of the CUPS_SERVER environment 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:# ServerName: the hostname of your server, as advertised to the world. 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:# By default CUPS will use the hostname of the system. 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:# By default CUPS will use "root@hostname". 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:# Listen hostname 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:# Listen hostname:80 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:# Listen hostname:631 13:38 < th> ghostboy: STOP IT 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:# fully-qualified hostname. This defaults to Off for performance reasons... 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:# The hostname/domainname restrictions only work if you have turned hostname 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:# Allow: allows access from the specified hostname, domain, IP address, or 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:# Deny: denies access from the specified hostname, domain, IP address, or 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf:# The host and domain address require that you enable hostname lookups 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/printers.conf:#DeviceURI socket://hostname:port 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/printers.conf:#DeviceURI tftp://hostname/path 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/printers.conf:#DeviceURI ftp://hostname/path 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/printers.conf:#DeviceURI https://hostname[:port]/path 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/printers.conf:#DeviceURI ipp://hostname/path 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/cups/printers.conf:#DeviceURI smb://hostname/printer 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/sendmail.cf:# shall we sort the queue by hostname first? 13:38 < ghostboy> /etc/sendmail.cf:# hostnames ending in class P are always canonical 13:39 < ghostboy> /etc/sendmail.cf:# pass to name server to make hostname canonical 13:39 < ghostboy> /etc/sendmail.cf:### check_relay -- check hostname/address on SMTP startup 13:39 < ghostboy> /etc/sendmail.cf:# handle non-DNS hostnames (*.bitnet, *.decnet, *.uucp, etc) 13:39 < ghostboy> /etc/sendmail.cf:# pass to name server to make hostname canonical 13:39 < ghostboy> /etc/rc.sysinit:HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname` 13:39 -!- ghostboy [~chatzilla@c17860.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit (Excess Flood) 13:39 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o th] by ChanServ 13:39 < huebi> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit <- Thats it. 13:39 <@th> yea 13:39 < huebi> th: danke 13:39 <@th> ich hab nix getan 13:40 < huebi> chanserve war schneller 13:40 <@th> noe 13:40 <@th> ich hab mir nur bei chanserv nen op geholt 13:40 <@th> aber opn hat ihn wegen floodens gekantet 13:40 < huebi> Ah so geht das. 13:40 -!- ghostboy [~chatzilla@c17860.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #rocklinux 13:40 < ghostboy> soz 13:40 < ghostboy> i cut and paste in one go 13:40 < huebi> ghostboy: NEVER DO THIS AGAIN, please. 13:41 < ghostboy> lol 13:41 < ghostboy> soz 13:41 < huebi> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit <- Thats it. 13:41 <@th> ghostboy: and now have a look to your /etc/rc.sysinit 13:41 <@th> aehm 13:41 <@th> whereever 13:43 < huebi> ghostboy: If there is a file "/etc/HOSTNAME" is mentioned then "vi /etc/HOSTNAME" and put the name in it. 13:43 < ghostboy> there are a few times in the script where it sets the host name, but i can find where it gets it from 13:43 < ghostboy> there is no /etc/HOSTNAME 13:43 < ghostboy> HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname` 13:43 < ghostboy> that is the first variable 13:44 < huebi> ghostboy: Put the file online somewhere and paste only the url of it. 13:44 < ghostboy> ok, one min 13:47 < ghostboy> https://iweb1.cs.rmit.edu.au:57055/itsnothere.html 13:47 < ghostboy> its not very readable 13:47 < ghostboy> one sec 13:48 < ghostboy> there 13:49 -!- UMA is now known as SMP 13:49 < huebi> moin SMP 13:50 < huebi> ghostboy: execute "/bin/hostname" please 13:51 < ghostboy> it sets it but it doesnt keep it 13:51 < huebi> ghostboy: then 'echo "computer" > /etc/HOSTNAME' 13:51 < huebi> ghostboy: the output please 13:52 < ghostboy> there is no /etc/HOSTNAME 13:52 <@th> it will be created by that command 13:52 < huebi> ghostboy: execute "/bin/hostname" please 13:52 < huebi> and give the output. 13:52 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 rc.d]# hostname 13:52 < ghostboy> valhalla 13:52 < huebi> ok. now: 13:53 < huebi> ghostboy: then 'echo "computer" > /etc/HOSTNAME' 13:53 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 rc.d]# 'echo "computer" > /etc/HOSTNAME' 13:53 < ghostboy> bash: echo "computer" > /etc/HOSTNAME: No such file or directory 13:53 < huebi> touch /etc/HOSTNAME 13:53 <@th> arg 13:53 < ghostboy> i can create it 13:53 <@th> ghostboy: you should not type the ` 13:53 <@th> just type what was inside the ` 13:53 < ghostboy> oooopps 13:54 <@th> and no need to touch /etc/HOSTNAME 13:54 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# echo "valhalla" > /etc/HOSTNAME 13:54 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# cat HOSTNAME 13:54 < ghostboy> valhalla 13:54 < ghostboy> i dont think it stands a reboot 13:54 <@th> ghostboy: your unix-experience can't be greater than half an hour, hein? 13:54 -!- tomik [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:54 -!- tomik [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has joined #rocklinux 13:54 < ghostboy> lol 13:54 < ghostboy> ive had a bit 13:55 < ghostboy> but i just shed the shackels of windows 13:55 <@th> so now continue to follow huebi's instructions ;) 13:55 < ghostboy> lol 13:55 < ghostboy> :) 13:55 < ghostboy> rm -r 13:56 < huebi> ghostboy: /bin/hostname 13:56 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# /bin/hostname 13:56 < ghostboy> valhalla 13:56 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("snyke has no reason") 13:56 < ghostboy> i dont think it will survive a reboot 13:57 < huebi> ghostboy: echo "computer" > /etc/HOSTNAME 13:57 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# cat HOSTNAME 13:57 < ghostboy> valhalla 13:57 < ghostboy> its there 13:57 < ghostboy> but i put it there, and there was not HOSTNAME 13:57 < huebi> just do it. I know whats there. 13:58 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# echo "valhalla" > /etc/HOSTNAME 13:58 < ghostboy> yeah 13:58 < huebi> ok 13:58 < ghostboy> and ... 13:58 < huebi> ghostboy: /bin/hostname 13:58 <@th> huebi: hmm you don't believe hostname queries /etc/HOSTNAME? 13:59 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# echo "test" > /etc/HOSTNAME 13:59 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# /bin/hostname 13:59 < huebi> I think hostname reads HOSTNAME in RH 13:59 < ghostboy> valhalla 13:59 < ghostboy> it doesnt 13:59 < ghostboy> i changed it to test to show you 13:59 <@th> well you put valhalla in it 13:59 < ghostboy> hostname <name> sets it 14:00 < ghostboy> i did after i set it with hostname 14:00 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# echo "test" > /etc/HOSTNAME 14:00 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# /bin/hostname 14:00 < ghostboy> valhalla 14:00 < ghostboy> this was run as is 14:00 <@th> ok 14:00 < ghostboy> i know its like that in slackware 14:00 <@th> gimme that url again please 14:01 < huebi> /bin/hostname -F `cat /etc/HOSTNAME` 14:01 < ghostboy> i just removed it 14:01 < ghostboy> one sec 14:01 <@th> huebi: NO 14:01 <@th> huebi: -F /etc/HOSTNAME 14:01 <@th> not `cat ...` 14:01 < huebi> th: ack 14:01 < huebi> sorry 14:01 <@th> huebi: /bin/hostname does not read /etc/HOSTNAME 14:02 <@th> huebi: it's from uname 14:02 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# /bin/hostname -F /etc/HOSTNAME 14:02 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 etc]# hostname 14:02 < ghostboy> test 14:02 <@th> there must be a point where /bin/hostname is used to set the hostname from bootup 14:02 <@th> ghostboy: yea but that doesn't help 14:02 < ghostboy> ill read the man pages 14:02 <@th> ghostboy: please gimme taht url again 14:03 < ghostboy> k ill set it again 14:03 < huebi> /bin/hostname -F /etc/HOSTNAME <- This line must be used in a script run before rc.sysinit. 14:03 <@th> huebi: might be /etc/rc 14:03 < huebi> https://iweb1.cs.rmit.edu.au:57055/itsnothere.html 14:04 <@th> just get 404 14:04 -!- Ge0rG is now known as ge0rg 14:04 <@th> ghostboy: please put your /etc/rc online for me 14:04 < ghostboy> hold on 14:04 < ghostboy> there 14:05 <@th> ack 14:05 < ghostboy> ive got a quize for you guys 14:05 <@th> you don't need to html format it 14:05 <@th> i'm reading it by wget -O - url | vim - 14:05 <@th> the <pre> is not more than funny 14:05 < ghostboy> well.... 14:05 < ghostboy> lol 14:05 <@th> is this /etc/rc? 14:06 <@th> no 14:06 <@th> it's /etc/rc.sysinit 14:06 < ghostboy> as etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit 14:06 <@th> ghostboy: gimme your /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit now 14:06 < ghostboy> that is it 14:06 <@th> so they are the same? 14:06 <@th> ok 14:06 <@th> so give me your /etc/rc now 14:06 < ghostboy> i think 14:06 < ghostboy> ok 14:06 <@th> don't think! be sure or check it! 14:06 < ghostboy> lol 14:07 < ghostboy> ok 14:07 < ghostboy> thats under rc.html 14:08 <@th> stop naming them html... 14:08 <@th> oh boy. 14:08 <@th> ok 14:09 < ghostboy> rc_sysinit.html 14:09 < ghostboy> soz, i want to see too lol 14:10 <@th> it not necc. that it is calle html to see it 14:10 < ghostboy> how then? 14:10 <@th> just copy them without renaming 14:11 <@th> ok /etc/rc is just for rc.d stuff 14:11 < ghostboy> oh, ok 14:11 < ghostboy> i c 14:11 < ghostboy> no more .html 14:12 <@th> so who calls rc.sysinit 14:12 < ghostboy> me 14:12 < ghostboy> lol 14:12 < ghostboy> i have no idea 14:12 <@th> ghostboy: do you get output on "diff /etc/rc.sysinit /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit"? 14:12 < ghostboy> what can a unix box do that a no 14:12 < ghostboy> no 14:13 < ghostboy> what can a unix box do taht a windows one cant? 14:13 <@th> ghostboy: you could set up a nonprivileged user account it would make things a lot easier 14:13 < ghostboy> ive been having a debate 14:13 <@th> a unix box can do all you want 14:13 <@th> a windows box can do all it wants 14:14 < ghostboy> ok ill set it up 14:15 < ghostboy> how do i make it 14:15 < ghostboy> lol 14:15 < ghostboy> so its nonprivelaged? 14:16 < ghostboy> im serious about the windows unix thing 14:16 < ghostboy> im haveing a debate 14:16 <@th> my answer was serious 14:16 <@th> it's unprivileged by default 14:17 <@th> just don't give me you root-password 14:17 < ghostboy> there user th, pass th 14:21 <@th> ghostboy: gimme your /etc/sysconfig/network 14:21 < ghostboy> [root@dhcppc3 sysconfig]# cat network 14:21 < ghostboy> NETWORKING=yes 14:21 < ghostboy> HOSTNAME=localhost.localdomain 14:21 < ghostboy> lol there it 14:21 < ghostboy> is 14:21 < ghostboy> i think 14:22 < ghostboy> is that it 14:22 <@th> seems so 14:22 < ghostboy> ill try 14:22 < ghostboy> i guess ill have to reboot to see 14:23 <@th> yes 14:23 < ghostboy> ill be back, thanks again everyone 14:23 -!- ghostboy [~chatzilla@c17860.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #rocklinux () 14:23 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a87.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 14:24 < plfiorini> hi 14:28 -!- ghostboy [~chatzilla@c17860.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #rocklinux 14:28 < ghostboy> [root@valhalla xine-ui-0.9.13]# :) 14:28 < ghostboy> root@valhalla :) 14:28 < ghostboy> thank you 14:28 <@th> no matterm kid 14:28 <@th> no matter, kid 14:29 < ghostboy> you make my day 14:29 < ghostboy> now how can i explain to a windows man that windows sucks 14:29 <@th> that's not possible most times 14:29 < ghostboy> lol, true 14:30 <@th> and in my opinion not needed 14:30 < ghostboy> how can we use voice? 14:30 <@th> voice? 14:30 < ghostboy> true for most, but this is a really stubborn windows man 14:30 < ghostboy> cant we use voice in irc now? 14:31 <@th> why should we? 14:31 -!- mode/#rocklinux [+v ghostboy] by th 14:31 <@th> here you are 14:31 <@th> *shrug* 14:31 <+ghostboy> lol 14:32 <+ghostboy> so tell me waht unix can but mr bill cant 14:32 <@th> "be understood" 14:32 <+ghostboy> well 14:33 <@th> i mean it 14:33 <+ghostboy> how do i transfer files in irc? 14:33 <@th> i don't know how you do that 14:33 <@th> i don't 14:33 <+ghostboy> i know there is a way 14:33 <@th> yes there is 14:34 <@th> but i don't use it. and i don't know whether you do 14:34 <+ghostboy> back to google lol 14:34 <@th> ghostboy: you should start asking precise questions 14:35 -!- crazynd [~crazynd@pD955DA2C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:35 <+ghostboy> moin crazynd 14:35 <@th> ghostboy: i would have answered that you are looking for /dcc send and /dcc get 14:35 <+ghostboy> yes 14:35 < crazynd> cheers 14:35 <+ghostboy> lol 14:35 <+ghostboy> so send me something interesting 14:35 <@th> no i won't 14:36 <@th> as i set i don't use dcc to transfer files in irc 14:36 <@th> s,set,said, 14:36 <+ghostboy> why? 14:36 <@th> why should i? 14:36 <+ghostboy> well 14:37 <@th> it's very easy for me to put a file on a webserver 14:37 <@th> so one can get it 14:37 <+ghostboy> fair enough 14:37 <+ghostboy> so are you into hacking? 14:38 <@th> oh boy. do you know what hacking is? 14:38 <+ghostboy> ... 14:38 <+ghostboy> phreaking cracking hacking 14:38 <+ghostboy> ... 14:38 <+ghostboy> i am doing computer science 14:38 < crazynd> hehe 14:38 <@th> ghostboy: you do NOT know what hacking is 14:38 <+ghostboy> im just not very experieced with unix 14:38 <+ghostboy> or with hacking 14:39 <+ghostboy> 3rd year 14:39 <@th> ghostboy: www.jargon.org read something about what a hacker is 14:41 <@th> ghostboy: perhaps you should try www.dict.org and lookup hacker in the jargon file 14:41 <+ghostboy> ok 14:42 <+ghostboy> so introduce me 14:42 <@th> introduce you into what? 14:43 <+ghostboy> the 'world of hacking' 14:43 <@th> there is nothing to introduce 14:44 <@th> ghostboy: you don't know what you are talking about 14:44 <@th> ghostboy: lookup hacker at www.dict.org 14:44 <+ghostboy> hacker 14:44 <+ghostboy> n 1: someone who plays golf poorly :) 14:44 <+ghostboy> 2: a programmer for whom computing is its own reward; may enjoy 14:44 <+ghostboy> the challenge of breaking into other computers 14:45 <+ghostboy> 3: one who works hard at boring tasks [syn: hack, drudge] 14:45 <+ghostboy> im guessing the golf one 14:45 <@th> ack 14:45 <@th> so i can't introduce you into the world of playing golf poorly 14:45 <@th> sorry 14:46 <+ghostboy> lol 14:46 <+ghostboy> i can do that myself 14:46 <+ghostboy> so are you into the security thing? 14:46 * th escapes. 14:46 <+ghostboy> do you like finding weaknesses in computer security 14:47 * th is not here. 14:47 <+ghostboy> lol 14:47 <+ghostboy> well 14:48 <+ghostboy> ... 14:48 <+ghostboy> anyway, ive got to go. thank you again 14:48 <+ghostboy> cya 14:48 -!- ghostboy [~chatzilla@c17860.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #rocklinux () 14:50 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:50 < holyolli> re 14:57 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a87.tin.it] has quit ("Non abbandonate i cani!") 15:03 < rolla> re 15:05 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD9E4920F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:05 < thalerim> moin all 15:08 < thalerim> mh ... is the author (or current maintainer, however) of the ROCK Guide here sometimes? 15:23 < holyolli> esden? 15:23 < thalerim> dunno.. 15:24 < thalerim> one is pjotr and piotr ... eeeh 15:24 < holyolli> ups 15:25 < holyolli> sorry..thalerim...i didn't want to answer...i wanted to get esden on his keyboard 15:25 < holyolli> =) 15:25 < thalerim> good excuse 15:26 < holyolli> hehe 15:27 < tomik> esden: :) 15:30 < thalerim> er scheint verhindert 15:30 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 15:30 < Mike1> moin 15:30 < thalerim> s,v\(.\)r\(.*\),b\1\2, 15:30 < thalerim> ;) 15:30 < thalerim> moin Mike1 15:32 < thalerim> weel, i must leave now ... maybe see you this evening 15:32 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD9E4920F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("...") 15:33 < holyolli> hi Mike1 15:41 <@th> hi Mike1 15:43 < Mike1> hi th all mighty chan operator :) 15:45 <@th> ouhm 15:45 <@th> it's just been because that kid... 15:45 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o th] by th 15:46 < Mike1> th? 15:46 < th> jo? 15:46 < Mike1> what kid? 15:46 < th> the one that joined some hours agpo 15:46 < th> and flooded the channel 15:47 < Mike1> so you kicked his ass? 15:47 < th> irc-server disconnected him because of flood just a second before i was armed 15:48 < Mike1> haha 15:48 * Mike1 browsing logs :) 15:51 < th> "ghostboy" was the one 15:53 < Mike1> th: yeah it wasnt hard to find 15:53 < Mike1> damn what a flood! 15:53 < Mike1> funny thing is... why the fsck would someone join #rocklinux to asking for help on red hat... 15:54 < rolla> :) 15:54 < th> don't know that either ;) 15:54 < Mike1> is just like if i joined #mandrake asking how does the Build-Target script works 15:55 < th> not that i would have a problem with rathead... 15:55 < th> i think it's because i don't have problems with things i don't touch ;) 15:55 < Mike1> th: sure rh is a nice user friendly distro, i have no problem with it cuz i dont use it :) 15:55 < Mike1> hehe same here 15:56 < th> it's the opposite when talking of women 15:56 < Mike1> lol of course 15:56 < th> "don't have problems with things i don't tocuh" ;-> 15:56 < Mike1> too bad owl isnt here *g 15:56 < th> hey cool, i got my cynism back.. 15:57 < th> reason enough to start hacking at once. 15:57 < Mike1> btw did i already told you that there are new Sun Cobalts comming up in about a week or so? 15:58 < Mike1> they no longer run only rh on them.. i am moving contacts over here with SUN, might get the chance to get one of those rocked :) 15:59 < th> Mike1: can't await getting the hardware shipped from your site. 15:59 < Mike1> th :) i know 16:00 < Mike1> th i think it would be cool to get involved into making a projecto to run rock on those machines 16:01 < Mike1> and make some web-interface dummy admin aplications 16:01 < Mike1> maybe with php 16:01 < th> Mike1: hmmm shouldn't this be an almost trivial task? 16:01 < th> or what do you mean by "project"? 16:02 < Mike1> th: project more as in making the admin dummy web tools 16:02 < Mike1> to run under linux 16:02 < Mike1> rock linux 16:02 < th> i hate admin dummy web tools 16:02 < Mike1> and definine a target for it 16:03 < Mike1> th i hate web admin tools as well but pehaps i think it would be a cool thing to get rock on those machines and get people to use it in production enviroments 16:04 < th> ahh you are not talking about a rock-project 16:04 < th> but something in company with sun? 16:04 < Mike1> th not exactly 16:04 < Mike1> is just more like having a rock target or subsdist or whatever you wanna call it with som special features for cobalt 16:05 < Mike1> thought i guess no body else in care about those things i belive could have a big jump on the market with something like that 16:06 * [anders] is having a bad day at the office and his brain is already threatening to explode... 16:06 < Mike1> ah well but in the other hand dummy web tools != rock philosophy so i guess it wont happen here 16:07 < Mike1> [anders]: God morgon 16:07 < [anders]> Mike1: hullo there Miguel, how's things? :) 16:07 * [anders] also had a bad nights sleep last night... 16:07 < th> Mike1: i've no problem with "creating dummy web tools for profit" ;-) 16:07 < Mike1> [anders]: everything great thanks , I'm not busy today ! 16:07 < [anders]> th: *g* indeed.. :) 16:07 * Mike1 cant believe it 16:08 < Mike1> th :) 16:24 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@80.128.60.174] has joined #rocklinux 16:29 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@80.129.126.13] has joined #rocklinux 16:31 < bluefire> Hi 16:31 < holyolli> hi bluefire 16:50 -!- Freak [freak@pD95308F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 16:53 -!- Freak [freak@pD95308F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:57 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-174-159.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:58 < holyolli> re Freak 16:58 < holyolli> hi rxr 17:00 < Freak> re 17:06 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@p5082B803.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:06 < holyolli> huch... hi angel 17:06 < angel|of|chaos> huhu olli 17:08 < angel|of|chaos> wie schauts ? 17:08 < holyolli> och ja....ganz gut eigendlich. und selber? 17:09 < angel|of|chaos> naja so lala 17:09 < angel|of|chaos> läuft nich alles wie es soll 17:10 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-204.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:14 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-169-255.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:24 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has joined #rocklinux 17:24 < d3mian> hi 17:25 < Mike1> hi d3mian 17:25 < holyolli> hi d3mian 17:26 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-174-159.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:42 * th is away for getting some food 17:42 -!- wolfpup [~wolfpup@h24-67-44-116.lb.shawcable.net] has quit ("Reconnecting") 17:43 -!- wolfpup [~wolfpup@h24-67-44-116.lb.shawcable.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:49 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@p5082B803.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (".: https://www.mpm-lan.de :.") 17:49 * [anders] is not having a good day at the office despite being asked to stay on for another six months (pending the decision on if they'll get funding to pay me) 17:49 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5784.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:50 < [anders]> moin owl 17:50 < owl> hi 17:50 < owl> hi [anders] 17:50 < Mike1> hola owl 17:50 < d3mian> hi owl 17:50 < owl> hello all ;))) 17:51 * [anders] is listening to Christina Milian... (she's hot.. ;-) 17:52 < rolla> owl 17:53 < owl> rolla ;) 17:59 * [anders] is having a look at Oakley sunglasses while waiting for about 10 minutes of I/O to complete.. 18:08 -!- wolfpup [~wolfpup@h24-67-44-116.lb.shawcable.net] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.1 -- Are we there yet?") 18:26 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:26 < huebi> re 18:26 < d3mian> hi snyke 18:26 < d3mian> hi huebi 18:27 < huebi> hi @ all 18:27 < owl> hi snyke 18:28 * huebi testing webssh 18:28 < huebi> bbl 18:28 < owl> hi huebi 18:30 < Mike1> hey Andreas :) 18:34 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("snyke has no reason") 18:39 -!- Freak [freak@pD95308F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Excess Flood) 18:39 -!- Freak [freak@pD95308F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:42 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@80.130.184.3] has joined #rocklinux 19:01 -!- d3mian is now known as [zulu] 19:01 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!") 19:01 -!- Hioki^zzZZ is now known as Hioki 19:07 < Hioki> good morning! 19:08 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@80.130.184.3] has quit (".: https://www.mpm-lan.de :.") 19:08 < owl> hi hioki 19:08 < Hioki> hi owl 19:18 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:25 * Hioki #nvidia 19:26 -!- Hioki [~ceduardo@63.101.133.12] has quit ("Aplicación Saliendo") 19:27 -!- kvak|uninvited [uninvited@pD959064F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:27 < kvak|uninvited> Hello !? 19:28 < owl> hi 19:33 < tomik> hi 19:57 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-375.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 20:09 < blindcoder> konban wa, mina-san! 20:09 < owl> hi blindy 20:24 < Freak> owl: lalala 20:25 < owl> Freak: wo liegt dein problem? ;PPP 20:25 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@80.128.60.174] has quit ("I like core dumps") 20:27 < Mike1> got a meeting with SUN people in an hour , hope i can get some sponsorship, see you guys tomorrow 20:27 < Mike1> nacht 20:27 < Freak> owl: stinky bavarian miss :) 20:28 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-375.tin.it] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:28 < owl> ./ignore Freak 20:28 < Mike1> Freak: make her open 3 bottles :) 20:28 < Freak> omigod 20:28 < Mike1> bye 20:28 < Freak> heh Mike1 20:28 < blindcoder> Mike1: good luck :) 20:28 < Freak> cu 20:28 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-375.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 20:28 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 20:40 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50803CAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:40 -!- [zulu] is now known as d3mian 20:42 < Freak> I _love_ Julia Stiles. 20:43 < owl> ??? 20:43 * owl loves asus l3c... 20:45 < Freak> I was actually talking about non-tech-stuff this time 20:45 < owl> i know :P 20:59 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082AE86.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:59 < tsa> tag 20:59 < owl> moin tsa 20:59 < tsa> moin owl 21:03 -!- ge0rg is now known as Ge0rG 21:11 < tsa> hi geo 21:11 < tsa> hi Ge0rG 21:12 < Ge0rG> 'lo tsa :) 21:12 -!- h0h0 [~hoho@3ffe:80ee:7c6:0:0:0:0:fe] has joined #rocklinux 21:13 -!- Enchanter_tim [~Lucien@cust.88.89.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #rocklinux 21:14 < snyke> not always so many users ;) 21:15 < Enchanter_tim> :) 21:15 < tsa> hi snyke 21:15 < tsa> hi Enchanter_tim 21:15 < Enchanter_tim> well, I heard about rock on the sane conference, and am just checking things out :) 21:16 < Enchanter_tim> hey tsa 21:21 < Enchanter_tim> hmm.. is there a prebuild environment for mips? 21:21 < Enchanter_tim> I saw something on the site, but I cant find anything on the ftp site 21:22 < tsa> hm... 21:23 < tsa> i don't know....fake is working on the mips stuff AFAIK, but he doesn't seem to be awake.. 21:24 < Enchanter_tim> Ill mail him .. 21:25 < Enchanter_tim> im a bit unhappy about installing debian on this machine .. 21:26 < snyke> anybody here having experience in installing joysticks ??????????? 21:26 < tsa> no, sorry. don't have one.. 21:26 < th> on what target? ;-] 21:29 < Enchanter_tim> heh 21:29 < owl> snyke: bill gates = target??? 21:30 < th> don't want to think of targets where one can mount a joystick 21:30 < snyke> no 21:31 < snyke> a user using debian is searching help in our game-channel how to install a joystick 21:31 < snyke> he included ... in kernal but still doesn't work. 21:31 -!- disposable [~michal@host213-1-72-60.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:38 -!- mirabile [tg@mirabilos.tsps1.freenet6.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:38 < mirabile> hi all, I have two questions: 21:39 < mirabile> a) does the default kernel of the rescue .tbz2 have NTFS support? 21:39 < owl> hi mirabile 21:39 < mirabile> b) where can I get a bootdisc image... 21:39 < mirabile> this system is driving me crazy... 21:39 < owl> of rock or drock?? what did you download? 21:39 < mirabile> lilo not booting, NTFS damages... 21:39 < th> mirabile: dd is able to create a bootdisc for you 21:39 < mirabile> rock-rescue-1.3.11 or someting 21:39 < mirabile> th: yes _if_ I had an image 21:40 < th> mirabile: dd if=vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 21:40 < mirabile> th: the only operating system I can boot has read/write but no creation support for ext2fs... and nor could it execute lilo 21:40 < th> mirabile: you can build vmlinuz from kernel-source 21:40 < mirabile> no _I_ cannot because I only can boot OpenBSD... 21:41 < th> mirabile: so there is no linux installed? 21:41 < th> ah 21:41 < th> mirabile: and you have no other machine available to make a kernel> 21:41 < mirabile> and no, I can't start rdev to modify a vmlinuz directly written to disc either... 21:41 < mirabile> no 21:41 < mirabile> I'm going to make a new distribution, and start with the rock "rescue" image 21:41 < mirabile> as if I would compile rock linux 21:42 < disposable> hi, the doc on rocklinux website says that rocklinux distro can be created on other distributions as well (with a bit of hacking) 21:42 < mirabile> I only have my laptop running OBSD, and the "desktop" box with rock (lilo doesn't work) and a damaged NTFS partition... :( 21:42 < disposable> the question is, is it much more difficult? 21:42 < mirabile> and furthermore I need to save some megabytes off the NTFS partition first 21:42 < mirabile> everything no problem if I had a boot floppy with devfs and ntfs support... 21:43 < mirabile> I tried the debILLian CD from the linuxtag to no success 21:43 < th> disposable: you can install a binary rock. 21:43 < disposable> ehm: i'm a newbie... can you explain? 21:43 < th> mirabile: so what is the rootfs you want to boot? 21:44 < th> disposable: why do you want to build rock on an alien-system when you can install rock from binary-cd and compile it afterwards? 21:44 < mirabile> th: it is on my "desktop" box, ext2fs and from the university in vienna, I don't recall the filename, something like "rock-rescue-i386-1.3.11.tar.bz2" 21:44 < mirabile> the archive is expanded just fine and works, just I have no lilo to boot it 21:45 < mirabile> disposable: it is much like this: 21:45 < mirabile> you back up your data first 21:45 < mirabile> then install a rock linux snapshot 21:45 < mirabile> then restore the data 21:45 < disposable> th: i want to build a distro that would fit on 8cm miniCD, cos i do a lot of travelling and i don't like bootable distros that use ramdisks 21:45 < th> hmmm lilo can boot a tbz2? 21:45 < mirabile> then re-compile to get the latest bleeding edge features 21:45 < d3mian> disposable: u can download the rock-install iso, boot from it and start installation without build anything 21:46 < mirabile> th: no it is a root tarball (/bin /etc etc...) 21:46 < disposable> d3mian: aaaah, that sounds more like it... 21:46 < mirabile> it is the 43MB (IIRC) so-called rescue system containing 21:46 < th> mirabile: i know whats in that rescue-tbz2 21:46 < mirabile> <quote>all you need to build</quote> 21:46 < mirabile> :) 21:46 < mirabile> and to the addition, I HAVE no lilo... 21:47 < mirabile> if you could make a boot floppy (1440k, i386) and send it me, or someting? 21:47 < disposable> d3mian: where can i find that iso? 21:48 < d3mian> disposable: www.rocklinux.org/getting.html 21:48 < disposable> d3mian: ;) oops 21:48 < mirabile> I just need something to dd on a floppy from my openbsd box 21:49 < mirabile> I have these files (vmlinuz, boot.b, lilo.conf) but can't use them :( 21:50 < th> mirabile: and why do you want to use lilo? 21:50 < mirabile> ... because I have to boot a linux kernel? 21:50 < th> you can dd the directly to floppy 21:50 < mirabile> I know I could just write vmlinuz to the disc, BUT 21:50 < th> s,the,the kernel, 21:50 < mirabile> I can't use rdev... 21:51 < th> why? because just bsd? 21:51 < mirabile> so it won't have the correct root 21:51 < mirabile> yup, bsd with no linux emulation installed 21:51 < th> mirabile: ok. use grub 21:51 < mirabile> I neither have grub... 21:51 < th> mirabile: you can download it 21:51 < esden> hi all 21:51 < th> i think 21:51 < owl> hi esden 21:51 < mirabile> it's not in our ports tree, so it probably won't work either 21:52 < d3mian> hi esden 21:52 -!- Enchanter_tim [~Lucien@cust.88.89.adsl.cistron.nl] has quit ("Client Exiting") 21:53 < disposable> d3mian: i've tried several mirrors, but i can't find any rock-install iso.... 21:53 < mirabile> th, do you at least know whether rock linux has NTFS support by default? 21:53 < th> mirabile: i don't think so. but you can install grub on a disc by just using dd 21:54 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50803CAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:54 < th> dd if=stage1 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=1 ; dd if=stage2 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 seek=1 21:54 < mirabile> ... compiling the files first, I assume? 21:54 < th> or get them on the net 21:54 < mirabile> no, I'll try to use the midnight commander in place of rdev 21:55 < mirabile> I've done this years ago, and I know to insert 0301, just I don't recall where... 21:55 < mirabile> now just need to get a kernel with ntfs... 21:55 < mirabile> and the rdev man page 21:55 < mirabile> but the latter should be no problem 21:55 < d3mian> mirabile: copy ntfs modules u need to a floppy and load them from rock 21:56 < mirabile> hey, I don't have any modules, that is my problem 21:56 < disposable> d3mian: i've tried several mirrors, but i can't find any rock-install iso.... 21:56 < mirabile> (maybe they 21:56 < mirabile> 're in the image) 21:56 < mirabile> hrm, just how to append "init=/bin/sh" - argh, where are these SuSE images with syslinux? *lol* 21:57 < th> mirabile: grub would be your friend 21:57 < th> mirabile: grub could read the kernel from ntfs 21:58 < mirabile> at least I know how to edit msdosfs files ;) 21:58 < mirabile> eh no, I don't have the _kernel_ on ntfs 21:58 < th> or from fd 21:58 < mirabile> just some data to rescue before I newfs the partition 21:58 < mirabile> I found an old suse bootdisc image somewhere on ftp 21:59 < mirabile> looking whether that'd work 21:59 < mirabile> now, part II, getting a kernel with devfs 22:00 < th> huebi: you removed the rescue tbz2 from the cd, did you? 22:01 -!- disposable [~michal@host213-1-72-60.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #rocklinux () 22:02 < mirabile> still thank you, at least I found the idea ;) 22:07 -!- mirabile [tg@mirabilos.tsps1.freenet6.net] has left #rocklinux () 22:15 -!- mirabile [tg@mirabilos.tsps1.freenet6.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:15 < mirabile> th: nevermind, got it with the suse disc (syslinux.sys) and the rock rescue kernel... 22:15 < mirabile> thanks though 22:15 < mirabile> cu 22:15 -!- mirabile [tg@mirabilos.tsps1.freenet6.net] has left #rocklinux () 22:20 < Ge0rG> ,oO( /ignore *!*@*.opn ) 22:20 < tsa> ;) 22:21 < Ge0rG> if I open a new OSS channel, it will be on OFTC... 22:23 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@80.129.126.13] has quit ("leaving") 22:34 < h0h0> is it really necessary to give your address when buying a domain name? 22:35 < tsa> yes. 22:46 -!- kvak|uninvited [uninvited@pD959064F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 22:55 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-375.tin.it] has left #rocklinux (":wq") 22:58 < tsa> hm.. 22:58 < tsa> an irc client with vi-like commands would be really cool. 23:01 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50803CAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:02 < tsa> hi chrisime 23:02 < chrisime> jo 23:02 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/") 23:02 < chrisime> ich hab kein euro 23:02 < chrisime> symbol 23:02 < chrisime> irgendwas spinnt 23:03 < tsa> ich auch nicht. 23:03 < tsa> macht nix. 23:03 < tsa> einfach weiter in DM zaheln ;) 23:03 < chrisime> lol 23:03 < chrisime> naja 23:03 < chrisime> gestern gings 23:03 < owl> hi chrisime 23:07 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has left #rocklinux () 23:08 < esden> chrisime: hi 23:08 < esden> chrisime: bist du nicht in dem lego projekt ? 23:09 < chrisime> noe 23:09 < chrisime> ham mich rausgeschmissen 23:09 < chrisime> weil ich kein attest hatte wg. monat 23:10 < chrisime> montag 23:10 < chrisime> koennen mich mal 23:10 < chrisime> ich knall mir mal rocklinux 1.5.18 auf die kiste 23:15 < esden> und wieso warst du nicht am montag da ? 23:15 < chrisime> esden: hast du euro? 23:15 < chrisime> esden: arbeit 23:15 < esden> aja 23:15 < chrisime> musste nen server einrichten 23:15 < chrisime> bzw. nety 23:15 < chrisime> netrz 23:15 < chrisime> netz 23:15 < esden> ehh ... euro ??? 23:16 < chrisime> euro symbol 23:16 < chrisime> meins will nimmer 23:16 < esden> noe 23:16 < chrisime> PRIVMSG #rocklinux :€ 23:16 < chrisime> öäü 23:16 < chrisime> hmm 23:16 < esden> wozu braucht man sowas ... 23:16 < chrisime> ich 23:16 < esden> jaja ... du brauchst auch komische sachen ... 23:17 < chrisime> heh 23:17 < esden> soo .. ich schreibe noch ne email und dann baue ich meinen rechner ab .. 23:20 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@p5082B803.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:21 < chrisime> aja 23:28 -!- disposable [~michal@host62-7-74-223.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #rocklinux 23:28 < esden> soo ... es ist soweit 23:28 < esden> cheers an alle 23:30 < disposable> i would like to build a custom distro for my girlfriend, but i don't know whether rock is the right one. does it have hardware autodetection during installation? (i've never used rocklinux) 23:30 < owl> ciao esden 23:31 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-8-5-2-dialup-225.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 23:31 < chrisime> so 23:31 < chrisime> ich hau mal meine kiste an 23:31 < zer0_o> huhu =) 23:32 < owl> eh? 23:32 < zer0_o> <- newbie 23:32 < owl> hi zero 23:32 < zer0_o> rocklinux hat mich gepackt =) 23:32 -!- angel|of|chaos_ [~Angel@pD9525246.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:32 < owl> *gg* 23:32 < zer0_o> habs geschafft mit fdsik n paar partitionen zu machen 23:32 < zer0_o> =D 23:32 < owl> willkommen im club. und ich packe rockinux... ;PP nein, ich packe tasche... brb 23:33 < zer0_o> das ist auch schon alles 23:33 < zer0_o> hf 23:33 < owl> hm 23:34 < zer0_o> hm? 23:34 < owl> nix 23:35 < zer0_o> bin nur hier, weils vorhin bissel zuviel war... aber nu geh ich ins bett.. 23:35 < owl> ah ja... 23:35 < zer0_o> woher kommst du ? 23:35 < owl> mars 23:36 < zer0_o> irgendwie krieg ich in jedem linux/bsd irc channel die selben antworten ;) 23:36 < owl> *ggg* wundert's dich? 23:37 < zer0_o> nö... wenn ich mich so an gewisse freaks erinnere die ich in rl getroffen hab.. kann ich den wohnort gut verstehn.. 23:37 < owl> ach ja... uebrigens... bei mir ist's mars, 9. strasse, ecke blick auf erde, mond 23:37 < owl> und warum bist du dann hier? 23:38 < zer0_o> ich will auch aufm mars wohnen 23:38 < owl> ah ja. 23:38 < owl> tipp... #nasa 23:38 < owl> oder das russische aequivalent dazu 23:38 < zer0_o> was ist mit esa? 23:39 < owl> hm... alternativ jemanden so lange nerven, bis er/sie/es dich auf den mars tritt... (tipp: jemanden mit army boots aussuchen... ist effektiver) 23:39 < zer0_o> *g* 23:40 < owl> sorry. zynismus ist gesund und macht spass ;P 23:40 < zer0_o> joah =) 23:40 < zer0_o> was machst du noch hier, zur späten stunde? 23:41 < owl> nix 23:50 -!- disposable [~michal@host62-7-74-223.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:50 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@p5082B803.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:53 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-8-5-2-dialup-225.freesurf.ch] has quit ("/me ROCKs a little bit... but not much") 23:53 -!- angel|of|chaos_ [~Angel@pD9525246.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (".: https://www.mpm-lan.de :.") 23:53 * tsa being tired. 23:53 < tsa> cu all 23:53 < tsa> n8 23:54 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082AE86.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:57 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-ls-8-3-2-dialup-46.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Fri Aug 09 00:00:15 2002