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--- Log opened Sat Aug 10 00:00:00 2002 --- Day changed Sat Aug 10 2002 00:00 < zer0_o> wie gayts? 00:00 < holyolli> hm. o.k. 00:01 < zer0_o> nice 00:03 < zer0_o> woher kommst du? 00:03 * zer0_o is a newbie... 00:06 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/") 00:06 * holyolli kommt aus deutschland 00:06 < holyolli> und ist noch am arbeiten...daher bbl 00:06 -!- holyolli [~oregehr@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("fnord!") 00:10 -!- Freak [freak@pD9530350.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:17 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@217.160.107.22] has quit ("Lost terminal") 00:25 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@pD9E1195D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (".: https://www.mpm-lan.de :.") 00:53 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816DE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 00:53 -!- TFDML [~TFDML@66-214-59-43.vv-res.charterpipeline.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:54 < TFDML> need some help with hostnames, can anyone help? 01:01 -!- TFDML [~TFDML@66-214-59-43.vv-res.charterpipeline.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:06 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 01:23 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.137] has left #rocklinux () 01:40 < Mike1> nacht 01:41 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 02:03 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@194.230.118.178] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:02 -!- rxr [~rene@212.202.173.216] has joined #rocklinux 03:02 -!- rxr_ [~rene@212.202.173.216] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:02 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:12 -!- crazynd [~crazynd@p50841604.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:29 -!- crazynd_ [~crazynd@pD955D9B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:58 -!- kaerF [freak@pD9530352.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:58 -!- Freak [freak@pD9530350.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:58 -!- kaerF is now known as Freak 06:12 -!- plfiorini|a [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a6.tin.it] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:49 -!- nAdIA [~nando@cii.udea.edu.co] has joined #rocklinux 06:49 < nAdIA> Hola 07:50 -!- nAdIA [~nando@cii.udea.edu.co] has quit ("bYte") 08:20 -!- kvak|uninvited [uninvited@pD9E5033F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:20 < kvak|uninvited> good morning. 08:21 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a6.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 08:21 < plfiorini> heya rock linux rocks 08:21 < plfiorini> yeah 08:28 -!- hioki [~ceduardo@63.101.133.12] has joined #rocklinux 08:41 < plfiorini> huebi: hi 08:42 < plfiorini> huebi: i am buildi my rock's customization 08:42 < plfiorini> huebi: do you know the status of g2? 08:44 < hioki> rock customization ? 08:45 < plfiorini> i would want do a gnome workstation distro 08:45 < hioki> c00l 08:45 < plfiorini> i really dunno the name ;) 08:45 < hioki> gnome 1.4 or 2.0 ? 08:45 < plfiorini> 2 of course 08:45 < plfiorini> 2.0.1 ;) 08:45 < plfiorini> based on rock 1.7 08:45 < hioki> rock 1.7 has gnome2 ? 08:45 < plfiorini> i think rene 08:46 < hioki> if not, try cvsgnome :) 08:46 < plfiorini> with totem, rhythmbox and other apps that aren't shipped w/g2 08:46 < plfiorini> heh 08:46 < hioki> what is g2? 08:46 < plfiorini> gnome 2 08:47 < hioki> oh.. 08:47 < hioki> thnx 08:47 < plfiorini> n/p 08:47 < plfiorini> yeah yeah 08:47 < hioki> did you use gnome2? 08:47 < plfiorini> since beta3 08:47 < hioki> c00l 08:47 < plfiorini> now i am on debian 08:47 < hioki> why? 08:48 < plfiorini> i compiled the rock kernel ;) 08:48 < hioki> i used kde3 since kde3-alpha1 08:48 < plfiorini> and here i have gnome2 08:48 < hioki> i prefer windowmaker 08:48 < hioki> its faster 08:48 < plfiorini> ehhe 08:48 < plfiorini> i never used wm 08:48 < hioki> its c00l 08:48 < [anders]> I spoke to Rene yesterday and there is Gnome2 in 1.7 08:48 < [anders]> it is working about 95% 08:48 < plfiorini> [anders]: oh thanks 08:48 < plfiorini> yeah yeah 08:49 < hioki> yeah 08:49 < [anders]> Mike1 and I are trying to get Gnome2 into 1.5 as well.. 08:49 < plfiorini> c00l 08:49 < hioki> c00l ;) 08:49 < [anders]> in fact, I am about to check the stage 3 build of our gnome2 tree now.. :) 08:49 < plfiorini> [anders]: but i would a customized gnome for my rock-based distro 08:49 < plfiorini> :))) 08:49 < plfiorini> i am happy to hearr about it 08:50 < hioki> have you visited sunshineinabag ? 08:50 < plfiorini> hrm i need a name! 08:50 < plfiorini> hioki: yes 08:50 < hioki> Hioki Linux 08:50 < hioki> ;) 08:50 < plfiorini> hioki: i am wating art.gnome.org 08:50 < plfiorini> ;) 08:50 < hioki> me too 08:50 < plfiorini> i'll ask star 08:50 < hioki> but you can download some wallpapers at www.kde-look.org 08:51 < plfiorini> i saw 08:51 < [anders]> plfiorini: customised gnome? how do you mean? 08:51 < plfiorini> [anders]: a new gtk engine (i am working on it), a new metacity, gdm, etc.. themes 08:51 < plfiorini> [anders]: and some patches 08:51 < hioki> c00l !!! 08:51 < plfiorini> [anders]: now im think about limbo2 patches 08:51 < plfiorini> that are in HEAD for g2.2 08:52 < hioki> where can we download you gtk engine ? 08:52 < hioki> limbo = redhata ? 08:52 < plfiorini> yes 08:52 < plfiorini> hioki: it sucks a lot, the 0.0.1 version is experimental 08:52 < hioki> you = your :) 08:52 < hioki> it doesn't matter 08:52 < hioki> :) 08:52 < hioki> but you have some web page ? 08:53 < plfiorini> hioki: https://digilander.libero.it/plfiorini/elysium/elysium-0.0.1.tar.bz2 08:53 < hioki> thnx 08:53 < plfiorini> hioki: https://digilander.libero.it/plfiorini/ this is my home 08:53 < plfiorini> n/p 08:53 < hioki> oh 08:53 < hioki> n/p ? 08:53 < plfiorini> oh scuse me 08:53 < plfiorini> hioki: https://digilander.libero.it/plfiorini/elysium/elysium-themes-0.0.1.tar.bz2 08:53 < plfiorini> hioki: i meant no problem 08:53 < hioki> okis 08:53 < hioki> ok 08:54 < plfiorini> i should study for my driving license 08:54 < plfiorini> but before doing it i should build some base packages and think a name... 08:54 < hioki> for the distro ? 08:54 * plfiorini needs a car and drive more 08:54 < plfiorini> yes 08:55 < hioki> Fiorini Linux 08:55 < plfiorini> hahaha 08:55 < hioki> PLFiorini Linux 08:55 < hioki> ops 08:55 < plfiorini> blah ;) 08:55 < hioki> Blah Linux 08:55 < plfiorini> ahaha 08:55 < hioki> G2Linux 08:55 < plfiorini> good name 08:55 < [anders]> plfiorini: Well, if you have packages available and they are working, we could put them in ROCK 1.5 08:55 < plfiorini> [anders]: hrm i have installed rock 1.5 but i am going to use rock 1.7 sources 08:56 < plfiorini> [anders]: i dunno if i can make something for rock 1.5, but i can try 08:56 < [anders]> plfiorini: package details are pretty much interchangeable betweemn the two.. 08:56 < plfiorini> [anders]: ok good 08:56 < plfiorini> [anders]: we'll try ;) 08:56 < [anders]> kool.. :) 08:57 * [anders] is now working on build order of things in the Gnome2 tree.. 08:57 < hioki> watch: 08:57 < hioki> comic.escomposlinux.org 08:58 < plfiorini> ahahah 08:58 < hioki> there more ones 08:58 < hioki> down 08:59 < plfiorini> hrm i am listening to ac/dc back in black, so... i can call the distro... "black" 08:59 < hioki> scroll down, you'll see :) 08:59 < hioki> Black 08:59 < hioki> mm.. 08:59 < hioki> Black Linux 08:59 < hioki> mm.. 08:59 < plfiorini> or Rolling 08:59 < plfiorini> Rock n' Rolling ;) 08:59 < hioki> c00l 08:59 < plfiorini> because it's based on rock 09:00 < hioki> BlackRock 09:00 < plfiorini> hrm 09:00 < hioki> 01:03 AM 09:00 < hioki> lately 09:00 < plfiorini> :) 09:00 < hioki> umm.. 09:00 < plfiorini> here 9:01 AM ;) 09:00 -!- kvak|uninvited [uninvited@pD9E5033F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:00 < hioki> umm 09:00 < hioki> where do you live? 09:00 < plfiorini> Italy 09:00 < hioki> italiano! 09:01 < plfiorini> si 09:01 < hioki> hablo castellano 09:01 * [anders] is swedish, but living in UK 09:01 < hioki> [anders] c00l 09:01 < plfiorini> [anders]: oh i love UK, i must go in that country 09:01 < hioki> io parlo italiano ? 09:01 < hioki> i cant speak that lang :) 09:01 < plfiorini> :) 09:02 < plfiorini> it is not so easy 09:02 < hioki> spanish? 09:02 < hioki> io = yo 09:02 < hioki> :D :D 09:03 < plfiorini> :8 09:03 < hioki> umm.. 09:03 < hioki> Italy is wonderful 09:03 < plfiorini> yes this is true 09:03 < plfiorini> but some people are stupid 09:03 < hioki> why? 09:03 < plfiorini> they follow other people 09:04 < hioki> to another country? 09:04 < plfiorini> no no 09:04 < plfiorini> most italian people are sheep 09:04 < plfiorini> they don't use teir brain 09:04 < hioki> ah.. ok 09:04 < hioki> im from El Salvador 09:05 < hioki> Central America 09:05 < plfiorini> :) 09:05 < plfiorini> and how is life in El Salvador? 09:05 < hioki> umm.. 09:05 < hioki> hard maybe.. 09:05 < plfiorini> i don't know El Salvador 09:05 < hioki> the people here are really stupid 09:06 < plfiorini> i never take a tour of the world, but it would be cool 09:06 * hioki no cash $$$ 09:06 < plfiorini> same as here 09:06 < plfiorini> probably i'll buy a new home and sell the current 09:07 < hioki> you current' home is old ? 09:07 < plfiorini> no 09:07 < hioki> is ugly ? 09:07 < plfiorini> it's new but it needs $$$ 09:07 < plfiorini> 750 euro for month 09:07 < hioki> wua 09:07 < hioki> my kernel 09:07 < hioki> hot hot 09:07 < hioki> 2.4.19 09:07 < hioki> :) 09:08 < plfiorini> my father should give 750 euro for month to bank 09:08 < plfiorini> so he wants sell 09:09 < hioki> do you live with ur father and mother ? 09:09 < plfiorini> and go to live with his sisters and brothers 09:09 < plfiorini> only with my father 09:09 < plfiorini> they are divorced 09:09 < hioki> how many years old are you ? 09:09 * plfiorini is using babelfish 09:09 < plfiorini> 20 09:09 < hioki> im sorry 09:09 < plfiorini> i don't care 09:10 < hioki> why you do use babelfish ? 09:10 < plfiorini> they are not together since 11 years 09:10 < plfiorini> to check the syntax 09:10 < hioki> c00l 09:10 < plfiorini> but it sucks a lot 09:10 < hioki> i dont speak english very well 09:10 < hioki> :( 09:10 < plfiorini> i can only translate some POs 09:11 < hioki> from GNOME apps ? 09:11 < plfiorini> but with IRC is so hard to speak 09:11 < plfiorini> yes 09:11 < plfiorini> www.it.gnome.org 09:11 < hioki> c00l 09:11 < plfiorini> yesterday i finished the nautilus' italian translation 09:11 < hioki> what tool do you use for translate ? 09:11 < plfiorini> vim 09:11 < hioki> COOL !!! 09:12 < plfiorini> www.hadess.net under Spiffy files, then under config (or configs) 09:12 < plfiorini> there's a really good .vimrc 09:13 -!- hioki|OrIgiNaL [~ceduardo@168.243.218.75] has joined #rocklinux 09:14 < hioki|OrIgiNaL> xchat crashes the connection 09:15 < hioki|OrIgiNaL> well, i must reboot 09:15 < hioki|OrIgiNaL> i ll be back 09:15 -!- hioki|OrIgiNaL [~ceduardo@168.243.218.75] has quit (Client Quit) 09:16 < plfiorini> [anders]: probably i'll do a package for the ericson hm120dp (an usb adsl modem) 09:17 < plfiorini> [anders]: https://www.samba.org/~idra/eciadsl-usermode-italy-0.5.tar.gz 09:18 < [anders]> :) 09:19 * [anders] was trying to track down why the build would not build atk when the package was there and everything looked alright. 09:20 < [anders]> Well, spaces look on the surfact very much like tabs. but they do not work the same way.. 09:20 < plfiorini> the order is: glib pango atk gtk 09:20 < plfiorini> i thinkg 09:23 < [anders]> Yep, sure is.. but when the build system keeps telling you there is no such package atk even when you can see the .pz file, the tar.bz2 archive etc... :) 09:25 < plfiorini> :) 09:25 < plfiorini> ok i reboot on rock 09:25 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a6.tin.it] has quit ("rock rock rock and roll") 09:28 -!- hioki [~ceduardo@63.101.133.12] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:57 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a6.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 09:58 < plfiorini> oh yeah i am on rock 10:02 < plfiorini> but there's no curl and mozilla fails 10:03 < plfiorini> s/fails/segfaults/g 10:05 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:09 -!- plfiorini 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reinstall his f***ed up workstation >_< 12:59 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@pD9E1195D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (".: https://www.mpm-lan.de :.") 13:09 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@217.14.165.35] has quit ("X-Chat: your way, right away") 14:04 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9522CB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:05 < bluefire> Moin 14:08 < blindcoder> moin moin 14:08 < blindcoder> hmm valgrind is not that bad... but somehow it detects too much 14:12 < bluefire> blindcoder: That's maybe because there are too much leaks :P 14:13 -!- g6j2q7n9p [~snyke@pD9502A5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:13 < blindcoder> erm... yeah maybe, but the program runs stable without valgrind and valgrind complains about a mutex-deadlock 14:16 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: g6j2q7n9p!~snyke@pD9502A5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de))) 14:16 -!- g6j2q7n9p [~snyke@pD9502A5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Client Quit) 14:16 -!- snyke 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has quit ("leaving") 15:13 -!- netcrow [netcrow@213.70.214.67] has quit ("leaving") 15:19 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/") 15:41 < [anders]> afternoon... 16:25 < praenti> hi 16:26 < praenti> anybody here with skills in apache configuration? 16:27 < [anders]> not really.. 16:27 < [anders]> been having a look at apache2 and that's what's running on my private box.. 16:27 < [anders]> but I wouldn't say I am any good at it. :) 16:29 < [anders]> where's Mike when you need him... 16:29 -!- crazynd [~crazynd@p50841604.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Changing server") 16:35 < th> praenti: what's your problem? 16:36 < praenti> i have an url like this: https://localhost/test.php?make=sth 16:36 < th> ok 16:36 < praenti> in php i make an echo $make and see nothing 16:36 < th> that's ok 16:37 < praenti> and the other ting is. i want to know waht module i need, that apache writes the / at the end of the url when it is not typed 16:37 < th> it was ok to decide not to compile your php with the --please-fuck-up-my-namespace-with-http-parameters 16:38 < praenti> ?? 16:38 < th> praenti: use $_GET["make"] 16:39 < praenti> th: die compile-vorlage war deine ext. ist die a bissal ...? 16:39 < th> a bissel was? 16:39 < praenti> naja läuft die nicht ganz astrein? 16:39 < th> praenti: der default ob die http-variablen in deinen global-namespace reingebratzt werden hat sich wohl bei 4.2.1 geaendert 16:39 < th> praenti: ich habe mit der keine probleme 16:39 < praenti> aso 16:40 < th> IMHO ist es krank jede get-variable sofort als variable im php-code zu haben 16:41 < praenti> stimmt irgendwo. in c macht man das ja auch nicht, dass alle externen vars gleich global sind 16:41 < th> $_GET oder $_SERVRE["argv"] sind dein freund 16:41 < praenti> ls 16:41 < praenti> shit wrong window 16:41 < th> should i emulate ls output for you 16:41 < th> ? 16:42 < th> total 0 16:42 < th> (dir was empty) 16:42 < praenti> *lol* 16:43 < th> that was even ls -l 16:43 < praenti> th: can you tell me what module i need to get the / for example after https://localhost/phpMyAdmin 16:43 < th> praenti: no 16:44 < th> praenti: i see no reason for such a behaviour at the moment 16:44 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:44 < th> hi Ge0rG 16:44 < Ge0rG> moin th 16:47 < praenti> th: ich bin tippfaul ;-) 16:47 < praenti> a nochwas, was heißt die zeile: 16:48 < praenti> Warning: stat failed for (errno=2 - No such file or directory) in /usr/local/apache/share/htdocs/include/fuss_mo1032.php on line 6 16:48 < praenti> ähhm. mom. ich galub das is jetzt ein fehler von mir 16:49 < th> denke ich auch 16:50 < praenti> ich versteh jetzt bloß nicht, warum das auf den anderen beiden kisten läuft 16:50 < praenti> da steht ein: echo date("d.m.Y.",fileMtime("$PATH_TRANSLATED")) 16:51 < Ge0rG> hm... ich hab mir jetzt auf ner rock-kiste /etc/conf/isdn und /etc/init.d/isdn gebastelt - besteht an soetwas bedarf? :) 16:51 < praenti> wir haben zwar fast alle dsl aber ich galub dass wir das schon brauchen, oder? 16:52 < praenti> Ge0rG: schick da einfach mal ne mail an die Liste 16:52 < th> praenti: ich mag php ueberhaupt nicht und moechte jetzt nicht in sprach-details abtauchen 16:52 < praenti> ok 16:53 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD9E3381B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:54 < Ge0rG> praenti: bin aber nicht subscribed ;) weiss nicht ma, welche adresse die hat *:= 16:54 < Ge0rG> :) 16:54 < term_emu> re 16:55 < th> Ge0rG: koennte man das zu irgendeinem paket zugehoerig erklaeren? 16:56 < blindcoder> praenti: mod_rewrite 16:56 < blindcoder> you need to do URL-rewriting to accomplish that 16:57 < Ge0rG> th: isdn4k-utils 16:59 < th> clifford is da maintainer... aber an 1.5 maintained er wohl nicht viel 16:59 < th> Ge0rG: werd doch maintainer ;) 16:59 < Ge0rG> th: dazu rocke ich einfach zu wenig ;) 16:59 < th> Ge0rG: dann aendere das 16:59 < Ge0rG> th: ausserdem lasse ich viele dinge gern schleifen. 17:00 < th> Ge0rG: das was du gemacht hast, scheint in in /etc/setup.d/xy-isdn zu gehoeren 17:00 < th> Ge0rG: ich weiss ;) 17:00 < th> Ge0rG: dieses paket BRAUCHT dich einfach ;) 17:00 < th> Ge0rG: wenn du dich nicht stark involvieren willst, kannst du auch einfach nen patch gegen das aktuelle im cvs schicken 17:01 < Ge0rG> th: setup.d ist doch zum einmaligen aufrufen? mein isdn-script muss man immer dann starten, wenn man über isdn ins netz will ;) 17:01 < th> Ge0rG: aber dieses setup.d ding soll ja gerade dieses start-script erstellen 17:01 < Ge0rG> bzw. nach jedem reboot 17:01 < th> wo dann ein paar abfragen kommen 17:02 < th> credentials vielleicht... telefonnummern, etc 17:02 < Ge0rG> ieks! :) 17:04 < th> you name it 17:05 < Ge0rG> hm... im stile von 20-network liesse sich das wohl machen... example backuppen und dann mit sed die variablen umändern 17:05 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:05 < holyolli> moin 17:07 < praenti> ho holyolli 17:08 < holyolli> hi praenti 17:13 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D21D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:14 < thalerim> moin all 17:16 < thalerim> need help ... i am seting up another PC ... without bootable cdrom drives, i copied the floppies/boot-disk.img with rawrite onto a disk, lilo prompt appears but loading the ramdisk fails. How can i manage this? (is there a document about that? - the rock guide, even if it handle this topic, is only provided as latex source, unsufficient in my case. 17:17 < thalerim> damn 17:18 < thalerim> oh i think i know now ... 17:18 < thalerim> brb 17:36 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:36 < snyke> re 17:36 < holyolli> re snyke 17:39 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D21D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 17:39 < praenti> hi snyke 17:39 -!- term_emu is now known as term_aweh 17:44 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("X-Chat: it adds that extra uNF to your sex life!") 17:50 -!- Ge0rG is now known as ge0rg 18:14 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-122.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 18:14 < plfiorini> [anders]: hi 18:15 < plfiorini> [anders]: what's the status of the gnome2 packages? 18:15 < plfiorini> [anders]: if i can help out.... i am here ;) 18:24 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-172-227.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 18:31 -!- rxr [~rene@212.202.173.216] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18:51 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD95901B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:11 < [anders]> plfiorini: hi there.. soz, was elsewhere.. :) 19:11 < plfiorini> [anders]: :) 19:11 < [anders]> uhm, well, I think things are pretty much in hand, but if you want to test things when we have a working build, that'd be great. :) 19:12 * [anders] is currently changing the priority on pretty much every single package touched in stage 3.. 19:12 < plfiorini> [anders]: ok good 19:12 < [anders]> not always changing the order things are built in, but tidying up the priorities a bit.. :) 19:12 < plfiorini> [anders]: the gnome2 packages shipped with 1.7 are old :) 19:13 < plfiorini> :) 19:13 < plfiorini> [anders]: do you'll put gstreamer? 19:13 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9E50A54.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:13 < plfiorini> btw i'll ship totem and acme 19:13 < [anders]> plfiorini: the ones used in the 1.5.18 tree are the ones from the initial 2.0 release.. I will go through and update all of them to latest stable version once I get everything to build in the right order. 19:14 < [anders]> plfiorini: and yes, gstreamer is on the list of things.. :) 19:14 < plfiorini> [anders]: ok, shipp also rhythmbox 0.3 :) 19:14 < [anders]> plfiorini: e-mail me the list of requested packages and I'll do my best.. anders.karlsson@meansolutions.com 19:43 -!- term_aweh [~pm@pD9E3381B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:44 -!- plfiorini is now known as plfiorini|eat 19:51 -!- plfiorini|eat is now known as plfiorini 19:54 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p5081358E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:54 < thalerim> re all 19:54 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly^install 19:54 < thaly^install> i have managed it ... now i even see the shell prompt ... nothing prevent me to install it noooow 19:58 < thaly^install> mhm ... why aren't rock-1.5.18 using Bash? IIRC in .17 and .16 it did 20:00 < thaly^install> this shell pretty sucks 20:02 < thaly^install> each two times I type the same commando in it prints "/bin/sh: <command>: not found" 20:02 < thaly^install> but when type it in again, it works ... err strange 20:02 < thaly^install> +I 20:05 -!- ge0rg is now known as Ge0rG 20:15 < esden> hi all 20:16 < thaly^install> hi esden 20:16 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:16 < fake> re 20:16 -!- thaly^install is now known as thaly^install|as 20:16 < esden> hi fake sweety ;-) 20:16 -!- thaly^install|as is now known as thaly^asterix 20:17 < fake> greetz from Vienna ;) 20:19 < esden> yes ... greets from far away in the deep austria 20:19 < esden> +a 20:20 < fake> we are camping in the alps, at clifford's cave 20:20 < fake> clifford was hunting, and now he is cooking ;-P 20:21 < fake> clifford good hunter *ugh* 20:33 < huebi> _________ 20:33 < huebi> < Hi, all > 20:33 < huebi> --------- 20:33 < huebi> \ ^__^ 20:33 < huebi> \ (oo)\_______ 20:33 < huebi> (__)\ )\/\ 20:33 < huebi> ||----w | 20:33 < huebi> || || 20:33 < plfiorini> what is this? a dog, a cow or what else? 20:33 < fake> MATHILDA! 20:33 < plfiorini> ahaha 20:34 < huebi> MATHILDA - the allmighty 20:34 < thaly^asterix> huebi: scroll up 20:35 < huebi> thaly^asterix: date? time? ;-) 20:35 < thaly^asterix> 19:54 20:36 < huebi> ok 20:36 < esden> hi mathilda !!! the allmighty !!! *bow* 20:37 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B70C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:37 < huebi> tach tsa 20:37 < tsa> tag 20:37 < tsa> hi huebi 20:38 < huebi> thaly^asterix: on the install disk is just busybox - a very small and not so mighty sh. 20:39 < thaly^asterix> i don't like, esp. due to the use of devfs 20:39 < thaly^asterix> the pathnames are pretty long (but logical!) 20:40 < thaly^asterix> and this shell hasn't command history even, so ... :-/ 20:41 < huebi> thaly^asterix: This is the _install_ shel. 20:41 < thaly^asterix> but i have to manage admistrative things with 20:41 < thaly^asterix> administrative. 20:43 < thaly^asterix> huebi: before bash was used, wasn't it? Why this move? 20:43 < tsa> hm... 20:43 < tsa> what do you guys think about adding a staticall linked shell to rock and make it root's default shell? 20:44 < tsa> something like /sbin/sh on solaris.. 20:44 < fake> busybox ? 20:44 < thaly^asterix> i don't need autocompletition (but i miss it anyway), but at least command history it should provide 20:45 < tsa> fake: i don't care....but it should be static and in /sbin 20:45 < tsa> ;) 20:45 < fake> eh, root will be renamed to "pr0n" anyways 20:45 < thaly^asterix> heh 20:45 < tsa> (yes, i did fuck up my system with broken libs several times..) 20:46 * thaly^asterix is advocating! 20:46 < fake> thaly^asterix: command history and autocompleteion is tha last thing you need if your ld-linux is gone 20:46 < tsa> fake: uhm...no, ~pron is /vol/multimadia/movies... ;-) 20:46 < fake> tsa: then make it "mathilda" 20:47 < huebi> the install system on the CD will be much bigger and having a full featured bash tomorrow. 20:47 < tsa> fake: would be nice to have it, too, if that doesn't result in a 10mb shell binary.. 20:47 < tsa> fake: ;-) 20:47 < thaly^asterix> huebi: tomorrow ... lol ... one day too late ;-) 20:47 < thaly^asterix> damn thing 20:47 < fake> tsa: 10MB? with built in user-mode-linux?? ;-) 20:47 < thaly^asterix> fake: ACK!!! 20:47 < tsa> huebi: i don't speak about the install system, but the readily installed rock 20:48 < tsa> we could consider introducing /sbin/static with some tools, too.. 20:48 < tsa> /sbin/static/tar 20:48 < tsa> bzip2 20:48 < thaly^asterix> no 20:49 < thaly^asterix> i would prefer a package including a rescue disk 20:49 < tsa> enough stuff to install a rock pkg and rescue your system - without needing a rock cdrom... 20:49 < thaly^asterix> especially a statical vi 20:50 < tsa> ack. 20:50 < tsa> solaris has some good ideas in this direction, although still with minor flaws.. 20:50 < thaly^asterix> in 1.5.18 even ed seems to miss 20:51 < thaly^asterix> but i know the trouble the floppies are causing for huebi :-) 20:51 < thaly^asterix> or at least were causing ... not being up to date ;) 20:52 < tsa> ( /usr/sbin/static/* is a very bad idea, should be /sbin/static/ ..) 20:57 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-27.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:00 < tsa> hi rxr 21:02 < thaly^asterix> i wonder 21:02 < thaly^asterix> fdisk /dev/discs/disc1/disc 21:02 < thaly^asterix> p 21:02 < thaly^asterix> says: 21:02 < thaly^asterix> Partition 1 [...] 82 Linux swap 21:02 < thaly^asterix> [...] 21:02 < thaly^asterix> w 21:03 < thaly^asterix> [...] 21:03 < thaly^asterix> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4 21:03 < thaly^asterix> but swapon /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1 doesn't work 21:04 < praenti> re 21:06 < thaly^asterix> huh ... why the heck doesn't it work 21:09 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-172-227.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21:09 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-27.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:10 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 21:10 < Mike1> moin 21:10 < thaly^asterix> lol ... i forgot to mkswap ... *doh* 21:11 < plfiorini> heya Mike1 21:11 < thaly^asterix> moin mikel 21:11 < plfiorini> thaly^asterix: ahah 21:12 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-171-215.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:13 < thaly^asterix> re rxr 21:16 -!- tsa_ [~tsa@p5082BC07.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:16 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B70C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: tsa_!~tsa@p5082BC07.dip.t-dialin.net))) 21:16 -!- tsa_ is now known as tsa 21:16 < Mike1> hola tsa 21:16 < tsa> re.. 21:16 < tsa> hi Mike1 21:16 < tsa> como te va? 21:16 < th> hi Mike1 21:16 < Mike1> lo 21:34 < thaly^asterix> urgs 21:34 < thaly^asterix> typing the long name of the source dir sucks ... really 21:45 -!- snyke [~snyke@eros.bingo-ev.de] has quit ("snyke has no reason") 21:46 < thaly^asterix> who has written the install menu? 21:46 < thaly^asterix> IIRC esdem ... right? 21:46 < thaly^asterix> er esden 21:47 < thaly^asterix> Anyone AWAKE ??? 21:48 < praenti> yes SIR 21:48 < praenti> ;-) 21:49 < praenti> thaly^asterix: yes, esden has written that. but i havent looked at it, yet 21:50 < thaly^asterix> esden: BEEP 21:50 < praenti> not here in think. he is in vienna, austria 21:50 < praenti> s/in/i 21:51 < thaly^asterix> however ;-) 21:51 < thaly^asterix> he must be here if i want him 21:51 < thaly^asterix> immediately 21:52 -!- Netsplit vinge.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: chrisime, fake, rxr, tomik_ 21:52 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr, fake, chrisime, tomik_ 21:52 < thaly^asterix> oh 21:52 < thaly^asterix> *g+ 21:56 < thaly^asterix> praenti: is it written in C ? 21:56 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:56 < praenti> yes. it is written in C with n_curses 21:57 < thaly^asterix> ok, then I'll take a look myself ... just wonder why Summary Information takes a while (really untypical for C programms) 21:58 < thaly^asterix> mh, rocklinux should include diffstat ... will create a package ... at anytime when i'm bored 21:58 < praenti> esden told me that there are s.ths in it, which are not so clean programmed 21:58 < thaly^asterix> praenti: it takes 2 or 3seconds ... this must be very badly programmed then 21:59 < praenti> thaly^asterix: do you understand german? 21:59 < thaly^asterix> huebi: Why is 'alsa' in 'net' ? 21:59 < thaly^asterix> praenti: na klar ;-) 22:00 < praenti> ja weiß nämlich nicht wie die engläder zu verkette liste sagen 22:00 < thaly^asterix> concated lists? 22:00 < thaly^asterix> so ähnlich auf jeden fall *h+ 22:00 < thaly^asterix> *g* 22:00 < praenti> kannst aber gerne einen binären suchbaum (aber bitte als avl-baum) draus basteln. der is garantiert schneller 22:01 < thaly^asterix> catenate lists glaub ich 22:01 < thaly^asterix> praenti: ich red nicht vom eigentlichen install-baum, der ist normal... 22:02 < thaly^asterix> musst dir mal die neue version anschauen, da gibst auch "Summarize Information" oder so 22:03 < thaly^asterix> huebi: beep ... 22:05 < praenti> also bin dann wech 22:05 < praenti> gn8 22:05 < thaly^asterix> gn8 22:11 < Ge0rG> irgendwer interessiert an scummvm auf der krups? ;) 22:16 < thaly^asterix> urgs!!! Wie kann man die installation stoppen? 22:16 < thaly^asterix> ich will nicht für jedes Paket ^C drücken 22:24 -!- thaly^asterix is now known as thaly^install 22:25 < thaly^install> lol ... i got a kernel panic, how sweet 22:36 < thaly^install> I must say ... this shell decrease the speed taking the installation for 50% 22:51 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-122.tin.it] has quit ("a tra pochissimo") 23:00 < [anders]> Mike1: u awake? 23:01 -!- nAdIeD [~root@cii.udea.edu.co] has joined #ROCKLINUX 23:01 * [anders] works in screen, so be patient if trying to get my attention.. 23:01 < nAdIeD> H! 23:02 < [anders]> lo nAdIeD 23:02 < thaly^install> moin [anders] ;) 23:02 < thaly^install> moin nAdIeD 23:02 < [anders]> moin thaly^install 23:02 -!- thaly^install is now known as thaly^ice 23:02 * [anders] is working on a oaf hotfix to get it compiling 23:03 < thaly^ice> it's installing right now ... time to get my reward due to the hard work today ;-) 23:03 < [anders]> thaly^ice: what is installing? ROCK 1.5.18 ? 23:04 < thaly^ice> of course 23:05 < [anders]> thaly^ice: 1.5.18 builds very nicely indeed.. I have not cut any ISO's of it yet, but it built stages 1-3 no problem.. 23:06 < Mike1> re 23:06 < Mike1> [anders]: i am awake now 23:06 < Mike1> :))) 23:07 < thaly^ice> no ... i depend on the ISOs ... well yet ... but soon ... :-) *happy* 23:07 -!- thaly^ice is now known as thalerim 23:08 < thalerim> but there's no ice in house :'-( 23:08 < [anders]> Mike1: heh.. I have updated the Gnome2 tree a little bit today.. And more is on the way.. :) 23:08 < Mike1> [anders]: exellent 23:08 < [anders]> Mike1: I am re-doing the priority of all packages in stage 3.. 23:09 < Mike1> did you sync anything? 23:09 < Mike1> [anders]: yeah i knew that would have to be done 23:09 < Mike1> so far how is it doing? 23:09 < Mike1> did you had problems building libtiff? 23:09 < thalerim> mh ... maybe one of you can say me, why alsa is in net ? 23:09 < [anders]> Mike1: yes, have synced some, the reworking of priorities is not synced though.. It builds right up to about gconf 23:10 < [anders]> Mike1: no, libtiff worked a treat for me.. 23:10 < [anders]> thalerim: no idea, sounds like a mistake 23:10 < thalerim> also i'd like splittet netbase packages into server and client 23:10 < Mike1> [anders]: great i guess my system is a little messed up :) 23:11 < thalerim> i personally need on my workstation only the clients 23:14 < Mike1> [anders]: i still need to work around too got the sources but didnt have time start building 23:15 < Mike1> i falled asleep last night as soon as got to my room 23:17 < thalerim> huebi: want you to discuss something 23:17 < [anders]> Mike1: I'll be updating versions of packages as well in a bit.. 23:18 < Mike1> [anders]: so i will wait for ur updates :) 23:20 < [anders]> Mike1: ok.. I might not have time to update all versions tonight, but I am working on getting oaf to build, just got the hotfix for ./configure ready.. Will test it now.. :) 23:21 < Mike1> [anders]: super! i will watch how far you get then i will contribute on updating :) 23:22 < [anders]> Mike1: okidoki.. :) 23:30 * [anders] just created hotfix2.patch for oaf... 23:31 * Mike1 anxious to see [anders] fixes :) 23:33 < Mike1> mmmm ... 23:33 * Mike1 see's someone new here, but its a know face 23:33 < Mike1> Hola nAdIeD :) 23:34 < nAdIeD> Jum!, te salude hacerato! 23:36 < Mike1> nAdIeD: mis disculpas no te habia visto 23:36 < Mike1> todo bien? 23:36 < nAdIeD> all right! 23:50 < thalerim> re all 23:51 -!- nAdIeD [~root@cii.udea.edu.co] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:51 < thalerim> mh ... what is the /etc/networks for? 23:52 < Mike1> re thalerim 23:53 -!- hioki [~ceduardo@63.101.133.12] has joined #rocklinux 23:54 < [anders]> Mike1: I tried to fix oaf so it would build with orbit2 but there was so much wrong I have instead re-instated orbit 23:54 * thalerim misses the allknowing huebi 23:55 < Mike1> [anders]: O_o?? 23:55 < hioki> hi Mike1 23:55 < Mike1> hi hioki 23:55 < Mike1> [anders]: you mean ur patch messed ur work enviroment? 23:55 < hioki> Mike1: i cant compile hdw' bash on rock 1.4 23:56 < hioki> Mike1: many lib errors 23:56 < [anders]> Mike1: I mean oaf 0.6.10 does not build when only having orbit2.. 23:56 < [anders]> <- afk 23:58 < Mike1> ok so we will need to have both orbit2 and orbit1 ... ok first package to keep . 23:58 < Mike1> <- afk too --- Log closed Sun Aug 11 00:00:35 2002