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00:00 < zer0_o> wie gayts?
00:00 < holyolli> hm. o.k.
00:01 < zer0_o> nice
00:03 < zer0_o> woher kommst du?
00:03 * zer0_o is a newbie...
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00:06 * holyolli kommt aus deutschland
00:06 < holyolli> und ist noch am arbeiten...daher bbl
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00:54 < TFDML> need some help with hostnames, can anyone help?
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01:40 < Mike1> nacht
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06:49 < nAdIA> Hola
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08:20 < kvak|uninvited> good morning.
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08:21 < plfiorini> heya rock linux rocks
08:21 < plfiorini> yeah
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08:41 < plfiorini> huebi: hi
08:42 < plfiorini> huebi: i am buildi my rock's customization
08:42 < plfiorini> huebi: do you know the status of g2?
08:44 < hioki> rock customization ?
08:45 < plfiorini> i would want do a gnome workstation distro
08:45 < hioki> c00l
08:45 < plfiorini> i really dunno the name ;)
08:45 < hioki> gnome 1.4 or 2.0 ?
08:45 < plfiorini> 2 of course
08:45 < plfiorini> 2.0.1 ;)
08:45 < plfiorini> based on rock 1.7
08:45 < hioki> rock 1.7 has gnome2 ?
08:45 < plfiorini> i think rene
08:46 < hioki> if not, try cvsgnome :)
08:46 < plfiorini> with totem, rhythmbox and other apps that aren't shipped w/g2
08:46 < plfiorini> heh
08:46 < hioki> what is g2?
08:46 < plfiorini> gnome 2
08:47 < hioki> oh..
08:47 < hioki> thnx
08:47 < plfiorini> n/p
08:47 < plfiorini> yeah yeah
08:47 < hioki> did you use gnome2?
08:47 < plfiorini> since beta3
08:47 < hioki> c00l
08:47 < plfiorini> now i am on debian
08:47 < hioki> why?
08:48 < plfiorini> i compiled the rock kernel ;)
08:48 < hioki> i used kde3 since kde3-alpha1
08:48 < plfiorini> and here i have  gnome2
08:48 < hioki> i prefer windowmaker
08:48 < hioki> its faster
08:48 < plfiorini> ehhe
08:48 < plfiorini> i never used wm
08:48 < hioki> its c00l
08:48 < [anders]> I spoke to Rene yesterday and there is Gnome2 in 1.7
08:48 < [anders]> it is working about 95%
08:48 < plfiorini> [anders]: oh thanks
08:48 < plfiorini> yeah yeah
08:49 < hioki> yeah
08:49 < [anders]> Mike1 and I are trying to get Gnome2 into 1.5 as well..
08:49 < plfiorini> c00l
08:49 < hioki> c00l ;)
08:49 < [anders]> in fact, I am about to check the stage 3 build of our gnome2 tree now.. :)
08:49 < plfiorini> [anders]: but i would a customized gnome for my rock-based distro
08:49 < plfiorini> :)))
08:49 < plfiorini> i am happy to hearr about it
08:50 < hioki> have you visited sunshineinabag ?
08:50 < plfiorini> hrm i need a name!
08:50 < plfiorini> hioki: yes
08:50 < hioki> Hioki Linux
08:50 < hioki> ;)
08:50 < plfiorini> hioki: i am wating art.gnome.org
08:50 < plfiorini> ;)
08:50 < hioki> me too
08:50 < plfiorini> i'll ask star
08:50 < hioki> but you can download some wallpapers at www.kde-look.org
08:51 < plfiorini> i saw
08:51 < [anders]> plfiorini: customised gnome? how do you mean?
08:51 < plfiorini> [anders]: a new gtk engine (i am working on it), a new metacity, gdm, etc.. themes
08:51 < plfiorini> [anders]: and some patches
08:51 < hioki> c00l !!!
08:51 < plfiorini> [anders]: now im think about limbo2 patches
08:51 < plfiorini> that are in HEAD for g2.2
08:52 < hioki> where can we download you gtk engine ?
08:52 < hioki> limbo = redhata ?
08:52 < plfiorini> yes
08:52 < plfiorini> hioki: it sucks a lot, the 0.0.1 version is experimental
08:52 < hioki> you = your :)
08:52 < hioki> it doesn't matter
08:52 < hioki> :)
08:52 < hioki> but you have some web page ?
08:53 < plfiorini> hioki: http://digilander.libero.it/plfiorini/elysium/elysium-0.0.1.tar.bz2
08:53 < hioki> thnx
08:53 < plfiorini> hioki: http://digilander.libero.it/plfiorini/ this is my home
08:53 < plfiorini> n/p
08:53 < hioki> oh
08:53 < hioki> n/p ?
08:53 < plfiorini> oh scuse me
08:53 < plfiorini> hioki: http://digilander.libero.it/plfiorini/elysium/elysium-themes-0.0.1.tar.bz2
08:53 < plfiorini> hioki: i meant no problem
08:53 < hioki> okis
08:53 < hioki> ok
08:54 < plfiorini> i should study for my driving license
08:54 < plfiorini> but before doing it i should build some base packages and think a name...
08:54 < hioki> for the distro ?
08:54 * plfiorini needs a car and drive more
08:54 < plfiorini> yes
08:55 < hioki> Fiorini Linux
08:55 < plfiorini> hahaha
08:55 < hioki> PLFiorini Linux
08:55 < hioki> ops
08:55 < plfiorini> blah ;)
08:55 < hioki> Blah Linux
08:55 < plfiorini> ahaha
08:55 < hioki> G2Linux
08:55 < plfiorini> good name
08:55 < [anders]> plfiorini: Well, if you have packages available and they are working, we could put them in ROCK 1.5
08:55 < plfiorini> [anders]: hrm i have installed rock 1.5 but i am going to use rock 1.7 sources
08:56 < plfiorini> [anders]: i dunno if i can make something for rock 1.5, but i can try
08:56 < [anders]> plfiorini: package details are pretty much interchangeable betweemn the two..
08:56 < plfiorini> [anders]: ok good
08:56 < plfiorini> [anders]: we'll try ;)
08:56 < [anders]> kool.. :)
08:57 * [anders] is now working on build order of things in the Gnome2 tree..
08:57 < hioki> watch:
08:57 < hioki> comic.escomposlinux.org
08:58 < plfiorini> ahahah
08:58 < hioki> there more ones
08:58 < hioki> down
08:59 < plfiorini> hrm i am listening to ac/dc back in black, so... i can call the distro... "black"
08:59 < hioki> scroll down, you'll see :)
08:59 < hioki> Black
08:59 < hioki> mm..
08:59 < hioki> Black Linux
08:59 < hioki> mm..
08:59 < plfiorini> or Rolling
08:59 < plfiorini> Rock n' Rolling ;)
08:59 < hioki> c00l
08:59 < plfiorini> because it's based on rock
09:00 < hioki> BlackRock
09:00 < plfiorini> hrm
09:00 < hioki> 01:03 AM
09:00 < hioki> lately
09:00 < plfiorini> :)
09:00 < hioki> umm..
09:00 < plfiorini> here 9:01 AM ;)
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09:00 < hioki> umm
09:00 < hioki> where do you live?
09:00 < plfiorini> Italy
09:00 < hioki> italiano!
09:01 < plfiorini> si
09:01 < hioki> hablo castellano
09:01 * [anders] is swedish, but living in UK
09:01 < hioki> [anders] c00l
09:01 < plfiorini> [anders]: oh i love UK, i must go in that country
09:01 < hioki> io parlo italiano ?
09:01 < hioki> i cant speak that lang :)
09:01 < plfiorini> :)
09:02 < plfiorini> it is not so easy
09:02 < hioki> spanish?
09:02 < hioki> io = yo
09:02 < hioki> :D :D
09:03 < plfiorini> :8
09:03 < hioki> umm..
09:03 < hioki> Italy is wonderful
09:03 < plfiorini> yes this is true
09:03 < plfiorini> but some people are stupid
09:03 < hioki> why?
09:03 < plfiorini> they follow other people
09:04 < hioki> to another country?
09:04 < plfiorini> no no
09:04 < plfiorini> most italian people are sheep
09:04 < plfiorini> they don't use teir brain
09:04 < hioki> ah.. ok
09:04 < hioki> im from El Salvador
09:05 < hioki> Central America
09:05 < plfiorini> :)
09:05 < plfiorini> and how is life in El Salvador?
09:05 < hioki> umm..
09:05 < hioki> hard maybe..
09:05 < plfiorini> i don't know El Salvador
09:05 < hioki> the people here are really stupid
09:06 < plfiorini> i never take a tour of the world, but it would be cool
09:06 * hioki no cash $$$
09:06 < plfiorini> same as here
09:06 < plfiorini> probably i'll buy a new home and sell the current
09:07 < hioki> you current' home is old ?
09:07 < plfiorini> no
09:07 < hioki> is ugly ?
09:07 < plfiorini> it's new but it needs $$$
09:07 < plfiorini> 750 euro for month
09:07 < hioki> wua
09:07 < hioki> my kernel
09:07 < hioki> hot hot
09:07 < hioki> 2.4.19
09:07 < hioki> :)
09:08 < plfiorini> my father should give 750 euro for month to bank
09:08 < plfiorini> so he wants sell
09:09 < hioki> do you live with ur father and mother ?
09:09 < plfiorini> and go to live with his sisters and brothers
09:09 < plfiorini> only with my father
09:09 < plfiorini> they are divorced
09:09 < hioki> how many years old are you ?
09:09 * plfiorini is using babelfish
09:09 < plfiorini> 20
09:09 < hioki> im sorry
09:09 < plfiorini> i don't care
09:10 < hioki> why you do use babelfish ?
09:10 < plfiorini> they are not together since 11 years
09:10 < plfiorini> to check the syntax
09:10 < hioki> c00l
09:10 < plfiorini> but it sucks a lot
09:10 < hioki> i dont speak english very well
09:10 < hioki> :(
09:10 < plfiorini> i can only translate some POs
09:11 < hioki> from GNOME apps ?
09:11 < plfiorini> but with IRC is so hard to speak
09:11 < plfiorini> yes
09:11 < plfiorini> www.it.gnome.org
09:11 < hioki> c00l
09:11 < plfiorini> yesterday i finished the nautilus' italian translation
09:11 < hioki> what tool do you use for translate ?
09:11 < plfiorini> vim
09:11 < hioki> COOL !!!
09:12 < plfiorini> www.hadess.net under Spiffy files, then under config (or configs)
09:12 < plfiorini> there's a really good .vimrc
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09:14 < hioki|OrIgiNaL> xchat crashes the connection
09:15 < hioki|OrIgiNaL> well, i must reboot
09:15 < hioki|OrIgiNaL> i ll be back
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09:16 < plfiorini> [anders]: probably i'll do a package for the ericson hm120dp (an usb adsl modem)
09:17 < plfiorini> [anders]: http://www.samba.org/~idra/eciadsl-usermode-italy-0.5.tar.gz
09:18 < [anders]> :)
09:19 * [anders] was trying to track down why the build would not build atk when the package was there and everything looked alright.
09:20 < [anders]> Well, spaces look on the surfact very much like tabs. but they do not work the same way..
09:20 < plfiorini> the order is: glib pango atk gtk
09:20 < plfiorini> i thinkg
09:23 < [anders]> Yep, sure is.. but when the build system keeps telling you there is no such package atk even when you can see the .pz file, the tar.bz2 archive etc... :)
09:25 < plfiorini> :)
09:25 < plfiorini> ok i reboot on rock
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09:58 < plfiorini> oh yeah i am on rock
10:02 < plfiorini> but there's no curl and mozilla fails
10:03 < plfiorini> s/fails/segfaults/g
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12:39 < holyolli> moin
12:40 < angel|of|chaos> moin ollui
12:40 < angel|of|chaos> olli even
12:43 < holyolli> hi angel
12:45 < blindcoder> hello everyone
12:47 < angel|of|chaos> hi blindcoder
12:59 * blindcoder now compiling a new rock-cd to reinstall his f***ed up workstation >_<
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14:05 < bluefire> Moin
14:08 < blindcoder> moin moin
14:08 < blindcoder> hmm valgrind is not that bad... but somehow it detects too much
14:12 < bluefire> blindcoder: That's maybe because there are too much leaks :P
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14:13 < blindcoder> erm... yeah maybe, but the program runs stable without valgrind and valgrind complains about a mutex-deadlock
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14:38 < netcrow> morgen
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14:42 < hackbard> morning
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14:46 < blindcoder> moin net
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15:41 < [anders]> afternoon...
16:25 < praenti> hi
16:26 < praenti> anybody here with skills in apache configuration?
16:27 < [anders]> not really..
16:27 < [anders]> been having a look at apache2 and that's what's running on my private box..
16:27 < [anders]> but I wouldn't say I am any good at it. :)
16:29 < [anders]> where's Mike when you need him...
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16:35 < th> praenti: what's your problem?
16:36 < praenti> i have an url like this: http://localhost/test.php?make=sth
16:36 < th> ok
16:36 < praenti> in php i make an echo $make and see nothing
16:36 < th> that's ok
16:37 < praenti> and the other ting is. i want to know waht module i need, that apache writes the / at the end of the url when it is not typed
16:37 < th> it was ok to decide not to compile your php with the --please-fuck-up-my-namespace-with-http-parameters
16:38 < praenti> ??
16:38 < th> praenti: use $_GET["make"]
16:39 < praenti> th: die compile-vorlage war deine ext. ist die a bissal ...?
16:39 < th> a bissel was?
16:39 < praenti> naja läuft die nicht ganz astrein?
16:39 < th> praenti: der default ob die http-variablen in deinen global-namespace reingebratzt werden hat sich wohl bei 4.2.1 geaendert
16:39 < th> praenti: ich habe mit der keine probleme
16:39 < praenti> aso
16:40 < th> IMHO ist es krank jede get-variable sofort als variable im php-code zu haben
16:41 < praenti> stimmt irgendwo. in c macht man das ja auch nicht, dass alle externen vars gleich global sind
16:41 < th> $_GET oder $_SERVRE["argv"] sind dein freund
16:41 < praenti> ls
16:41 < praenti> shit wrong window
16:41 < th> should i emulate ls output for you
16:41 < th> ?
16:42 < th> total 0
16:42 < th> (dir was empty)
16:42 < praenti> *lol*
16:43 < th> that was even ls -l
16:43 < praenti> th: can you tell me what module i need to get the / for example after http://localhost/phpMyAdmin
16:43 < th> praenti: no
16:44 < th> praenti: i see no reason for such a behaviour at the moment
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16:44 < th> hi Ge0rG
16:44 < Ge0rG> moin th
16:47 < praenti> th: ich bin tippfaul ;-)
16:47 < praenti> a nochwas, was heißt die zeile:
16:48 < praenti> Warning: stat failed for (errno=2 - No such file or directory) in /usr/local/apache/share/htdocs/include/fuss_mo1032.php on line 6
16:48 < praenti> ähhm. mom. ich galub das is jetzt ein fehler von mir
16:49 < th> denke ich auch
16:50 < praenti> ich versteh jetzt bloß nicht, warum das auf den anderen beiden kisten läuft
16:50 < praenti> da steht ein: echo date("d.m.Y.",fileMtime("$PATH_TRANSLATED"))
16:51 < Ge0rG> hm... ich hab mir jetzt auf ner rock-kiste /etc/conf/isdn und /etc/init.d/isdn gebastelt - besteht an soetwas bedarf? :)
16:51 < praenti> wir haben zwar fast alle dsl aber ich galub dass wir das schon brauchen, oder?
16:52 < praenti> Ge0rG: schick da einfach mal ne mail an die Liste
16:52 < th> praenti: ich mag php ueberhaupt nicht und moechte jetzt nicht in sprach-details abtauchen
16:52 < praenti> ok
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16:54 < Ge0rG> praenti: bin aber nicht subscribed ;) weiss nicht ma, welche adresse die hat *:=
16:54 < Ge0rG> :)
16:54 < term_emu> re
16:55 < th> Ge0rG: koennte man das zu irgendeinem paket zugehoerig erklaeren?
16:56 < blindcoder> praenti: mod_rewrite
16:56 < blindcoder> you need to do URL-rewriting to accomplish that
16:57 < Ge0rG> th: isdn4k-utils
16:59 < th> clifford is da maintainer... aber an 1.5 maintained er wohl nicht viel
16:59 < th> Ge0rG: werd doch maintainer ;)
16:59 < Ge0rG> th: dazu rocke ich einfach zu wenig ;)
16:59 < th> Ge0rG: dann aendere das
16:59 < Ge0rG> th: ausserdem lasse ich viele dinge gern schleifen.
17:00 < th> Ge0rG: das was du gemacht hast, scheint in in /etc/setup.d/xy-isdn zu gehoeren
17:00 < th> Ge0rG: ich weiss ;)
17:00 < th> Ge0rG: dieses paket BRAUCHT dich einfach ;)
17:00 < th> Ge0rG: wenn du dich nicht stark involvieren willst, kannst du auch einfach nen patch gegen das aktuelle im cvs schicken
17:01 < Ge0rG> th: setup.d ist doch zum einmaligen aufrufen? mein isdn-script muss man immer dann starten, wenn man über isdn ins netz will ;)
17:01 < th> Ge0rG: aber dieses setup.d ding soll ja gerade dieses start-script erstellen
17:01 < Ge0rG> bzw. nach jedem reboot
17:01 < th> wo dann ein paar abfragen kommen
17:02 < th> credentials vielleicht... telefonnummern, etc
17:02 < Ge0rG> ieks! :)
17:04 < th> you name it
17:05 < Ge0rG> hm... im stile von 20-network liesse sich das wohl machen... example backuppen und dann mit sed die variablen umändern
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17:05 < holyolli> moin
17:07 < praenti> ho holyolli
17:08 < holyolli> hi praenti
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17:14 < thalerim> moin all
17:16 < thalerim> need help ... i am seting up another PC ... without bootable cdrom drives, i copied the floppies/boot-disk.img with rawrite onto a disk, lilo prompt appears but loading the ramdisk fails. How can i manage this? (is there a document about that? - the rock guide, even if it handle this topic, is only provided as latex source, unsufficient in my case.
17:17 < thalerim> damn
17:18 < thalerim> oh i think i know now ...
17:18 < thalerim> brb
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17:36 < snyke> re
17:36 < holyolli> re snyke
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17:39 < praenti> hi snyke
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18:14 < plfiorini> [anders]: hi
18:15 < plfiorini> [anders]: what's the status of the gnome2 packages?
18:15 < plfiorini> [anders]: if i can help out.... i am here ;)
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19:11 < [anders]> plfiorini: hi there.. soz, was elsewhere.. :)
19:11 < plfiorini> [anders]: :)
19:11 < [anders]> uhm, well, I think things are pretty much in hand, but if you want to test things when we have a working build, that'd be great. :)
19:12 * [anders] is currently changing the priority on pretty much every single package touched in stage 3..
19:12 < plfiorini> [anders]: ok good
19:12 < [anders]> not always changing the order things are built in, but tidying up the priorities a bit.. :)
19:12 < plfiorini> [anders]: the gnome2 packages shipped with 1.7 are old :)
19:13 < plfiorini> :)
19:13 < plfiorini> [anders]: do you'll put gstreamer?
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19:13 < plfiorini> btw i'll ship totem and acme
19:13 < [anders]> plfiorini: the ones used in the 1.5.18 tree are the ones from the initial 2.0 release.. I will go through and update all of them to latest stable version once I get everything to build in the right order.
19:14 < [anders]> plfiorini: and yes, gstreamer is on the list of things.. :)
19:14 < plfiorini> [anders]: ok, shipp also rhythmbox 0.3 :)
19:14 < [anders]> plfiorini: e-mail me the list of requested packages and I'll do my best.. anders.karlsson@meansolutions.com
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19:54 < thalerim> re all
19:54 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly^install
19:54 < thaly^install> i have managed it ... now i even see the shell prompt ... nothing prevent me to install it noooow
19:58 < thaly^install> mhm ... why aren't rock-1.5.18 using Bash? IIRC in .17 and .16 it did
20:00 < thaly^install> this shell pretty sucks
20:02 < thaly^install> each two times I type the same commando in it prints "/bin/sh: <command>: not found"
20:02 < thaly^install> but when type it in again, it works ... err strange
20:02 < thaly^install> +I
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20:15 < esden> hi all
20:16 < thaly^install> hi esden
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20:16 < fake> re
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20:16 < esden> hi fake sweety ;-)
20:16 -!- thaly^install|as is now known as thaly^asterix
20:17 < fake> greetz from Vienna ;)
20:19 < esden> yes ... greets from far away in the deep austria
20:19 < esden> +a
20:20 < fake> we are camping in the alps, at clifford's cave
20:20 < fake> clifford was hunting, and now he is cooking ;-P
20:21 < fake> clifford good hunter *ugh*
20:33 < huebi>  _________
20:33 < huebi> < Hi, all >
20:33 < huebi>  ---------
20:33 < huebi>         \   ^__^
20:33 < huebi>          \  (oo)\_______
20:33 < huebi>             (__)\       )\/\
20:33 < huebi>                 ||----w |
20:33 < huebi>                 ||     ||
20:33 < plfiorini> what is this? a dog, a cow or what else?
20:33 < fake> MATHILDA!
20:33 < plfiorini> ahaha
20:34 < huebi> MATHILDA - the allmighty
20:34 < thaly^asterix> huebi: scroll up
20:35 < huebi> thaly^asterix: date? time? ;-)
20:35 < thaly^asterix> 19:54
20:36 < huebi> ok
20:36 < esden> hi mathilda !!! the allmighty !!! *bow*
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20:37 < huebi> tach tsa
20:37 < tsa> tag
20:37 < tsa> hi huebi
20:38 < huebi> thaly^asterix: on the install disk is just busybox - a very small and not so mighty sh.
20:39 < thaly^asterix> i don't like, esp. due to the use of devfs
20:39 < thaly^asterix> the pathnames are pretty long (but logical!)
20:40 < thaly^asterix> and this shell hasn't command history even, so ... :-/
20:41 < huebi> thaly^asterix: This is the _install_ shel.
20:41 < thaly^asterix> but i have to manage admistrative things with
20:41 < thaly^asterix> administrative.
20:43 < thaly^asterix> huebi: before bash was used, wasn't it? Why this move?
20:43 < tsa> hm...
20:43 < tsa> what do you guys think about adding a staticall linked shell to rock and make it root's default shell?
20:44 < tsa> something like /sbin/sh on solaris..
20:44 < fake> busybox ?
20:44 < thaly^asterix> i don't need autocompletition (but i miss it anyway), but at least command history it should provide
20:45 < tsa> fake: i don't care....but it should be static and in /sbin
20:45 < tsa> ;)
20:45 < fake> eh, root will be renamed to "pr0n" anyways
20:45 < thaly^asterix> heh
20:45 < tsa> (yes, i did fuck up my system with broken libs several times..)
20:46 * thaly^asterix is advocating!
20:46 < fake> thaly^asterix: command history and autocompleteion is tha last thing you need if your ld-linux is gone
20:46 < tsa> fake: uhm...no, ~pron is /vol/multimadia/movies... ;-)
20:46 < fake> tsa: then make it "mathilda"
20:47 < huebi> the install system on the CD will be much bigger and having a full featured bash tomorrow.
20:47 < tsa> fake: would be nice to have it, too, if that doesn't result in a 10mb shell binary..
20:47 < tsa> fake: ;-)
20:47 < thaly^asterix> huebi: tomorrow ... lol ... one day too late ;-)
20:47 < thaly^asterix> damn thing
20:47 < fake> tsa: 10MB? with built in user-mode-linux?? ;-)
20:47 < thaly^asterix> fake: ACK!!!
20:47 < tsa> huebi: i don't speak about the install system, but the readily installed rock
20:48 < tsa> we could consider introducing /sbin/static with some tools, too..
20:48 < tsa>  /sbin/static/tar
20:48 < tsa> bzip2
20:48 < thaly^asterix> no
20:49 < thaly^asterix> i would prefer a package including a rescue disk
20:49 < tsa> enough stuff to install a rock pkg and rescue your system - without needing a rock cdrom...
20:49 < thaly^asterix> especially a statical vi
20:50 < tsa> ack.
20:50 < tsa> solaris has some good ideas in this direction, although still with minor flaws..
20:50 < thaly^asterix> in 1.5.18 even ed seems to miss
20:51 < thaly^asterix> but i know the trouble the floppies are causing for huebi :-)
20:51 < thaly^asterix> or at least were causing ... not being up to date ;)
20:52 < tsa> ( /usr/sbin/static/* is a very bad idea, should be /sbin/static/ ..)
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21:00 < tsa> hi rxr
21:02 < thaly^asterix> i wonder
21:02 < thaly^asterix> fdisk /dev/discs/disc1/disc
21:02 < thaly^asterix> p
21:02 < thaly^asterix> says:
21:02 < thaly^asterix> Partition 1 [...] 82 Linux swap
21:02 < thaly^asterix> [...]
21:02 < thaly^asterix> w
21:03 < thaly^asterix> [...]
21:03 < thaly^asterix>  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4
21:03 < thaly^asterix> but swapon /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1 doesn't work
21:04 < praenti> re
21:06 < thaly^asterix> huh ... why the heck doesn't it work
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21:10 < Mike1> moin
21:10 < thaly^asterix> lol ... i forgot to mkswap ... *doh*
21:11 < plfiorini> heya Mike1
21:11 < thaly^asterix> moin mikel
21:11 < plfiorini> thaly^asterix: ahah
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21:13 < thaly^asterix> re rxr
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21:16 < Mike1> hola tsa
21:16 < tsa> re..
21:16 < tsa> hi Mike1
21:16 < tsa> como te va?
21:16 < th> hi Mike1
21:16 < Mike1> lo
21:34 < thaly^asterix> urgs
21:34 < thaly^asterix> typing the long name of the source dir sucks ... really
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21:46 < thaly^asterix> who has written the install menu?
21:46 < thaly^asterix> IIRC esdem ... right?
21:46 < thaly^asterix> er esden
21:47 < thaly^asterix> Anyone AWAKE ???
21:48 < praenti> yes SIR
21:48 < praenti> ;-)
21:49 < praenti> thaly^asterix: yes, esden has written that. but i havent looked at it, yet
21:50 < thaly^asterix> esden: BEEP
21:50 < praenti> not here in think. he is in vienna, austria
21:50 < praenti> s/in/i
21:51 < thaly^asterix> however ;-)
21:51 < thaly^asterix> he must be here if i want him
21:51 < thaly^asterix> immediately
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21:52 < thaly^asterix> oh
21:52 < thaly^asterix> *g+
21:56 < thaly^asterix> praenti: is it written in C ?
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21:56 < praenti> yes. it is written in C with n_curses
21:57 < thaly^asterix> ok, then I'll take a look myself ... just wonder why Summary Information takes a while (really untypical for C programms)
21:58 < thaly^asterix> mh, rocklinux should include diffstat ... will create a package ... at anytime when i'm bored
21:58 < praenti> esden told me that there are s.ths in it, which are not so clean programmed
21:58 < thaly^asterix> praenti: it takes 2 or 3seconds ... this must be very badly programmed then
21:59 < praenti> thaly^asterix: do you understand german?
21:59 < thaly^asterix> huebi: Why is 'alsa' in 'net' ?
21:59 < thaly^asterix> praenti: na klar ;-)
22:00 < praenti> ja weiß nämlich nicht wie die engläder zu verkette liste sagen
22:00 < thaly^asterix> concated lists?
22:00 < thaly^asterix> so ähnlich auf jeden fall *h+
22:00 < thaly^asterix> *g*
22:00 < praenti> kannst aber gerne einen binären suchbaum (aber bitte als avl-baum) draus basteln. der is garantiert schneller
22:01 < thaly^asterix> catenate lists glaub ich
22:01 < thaly^asterix> praenti: ich red nicht vom eigentlichen install-baum, der ist normal...
22:02 < thaly^asterix> musst dir mal die neue version anschauen, da gibst auch "Summarize Information" oder so
22:03 < thaly^asterix> huebi: beep ...
22:05 < praenti> also bin dann wech
22:05 < praenti> gn8
22:05 < thaly^asterix> gn8
22:11 < Ge0rG> irgendwer interessiert an scummvm auf der krups? ;)
22:16 < thaly^asterix> urgs!!! Wie kann man die installation stoppen?
22:16 < thaly^asterix> ich will nicht für jedes Paket ^C drücken
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22:25 < thaly^install> lol ... i got a kernel panic, how sweet
22:36 < thaly^install> I must say ... this shell decrease the speed taking the installation for 50%
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23:00 < [anders]> Mike1: u awake?
23:01 -!- nAdIeD [~root@cii.udea.edu.co] has joined #ROCKLINUX
23:01 * [anders] works in screen, so be patient if trying to get my attention..
23:01 < nAdIeD> H!
23:02 < [anders]> lo nAdIeD
23:02 < thaly^install> moin [anders] ;)
23:02 < thaly^install> moin nAdIeD
23:02 < [anders]> moin thaly^install
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23:02 * [anders] is working on a oaf hotfix to get it compiling
23:03 < thaly^ice> it's installing right now ... time to get my reward due to the hard work today ;-)
23:03 < [anders]> thaly^ice: what is installing? ROCK 1.5.18 ?
23:04 < thaly^ice> of course
23:05 < [anders]> thaly^ice: 1.5.18 builds very nicely indeed.. I have not cut any ISO's of it yet, but it built stages 1-3 no problem..
23:06 < Mike1> re
23:06 < Mike1> [anders]: i am awake now
23:06 < Mike1> :)))
23:07 < thaly^ice> no ... i depend on the ISOs ... well yet ... but soon ... :-) *happy*
23:07 -!- thaly^ice is now known as thalerim
23:08 < thalerim> but there's no ice in house :'-(
23:08 < [anders]> Mike1: heh.. I have updated the Gnome2 tree a little bit today.. And more is on the way.. :)
23:08 < Mike1> [anders]: exellent
23:08 < [anders]> Mike1: I am re-doing the priority of all packages in stage 3..
23:09 < Mike1> did you sync anything?
23:09 < Mike1> [anders]: yeah i knew that would have to be done
23:09 < Mike1> so far how is it doing?
23:09 < Mike1> did you had problems building libtiff?
23:09 < thalerim> mh ... maybe one of you can say me, why alsa is in net ?
23:09 < [anders]> Mike1: yes, have synced some, the reworking of priorities is not synced though.. It builds right up to about gconf
23:10 < [anders]> Mike1: no, libtiff worked a treat for me..
23:10 < [anders]> thalerim: no idea, sounds like a mistake
23:10 < thalerim> also i'd like splittet netbase packages into server and client
23:10 < Mike1> [anders]: great i guess my system is a little messed up :)
23:11 < thalerim> i personally need on my workstation only the clients
23:14 < Mike1> [anders]: i still need to work around too got the sources but didnt have time start building
23:15 < Mike1> i falled asleep last night as soon as got to my room
23:17 < thalerim> huebi: want you to discuss something
23:17 < [anders]> Mike1: I'll be updating versions of packages as well in a bit..
23:18 < Mike1> [anders]: so i will wait for ur updates :)
23:20 < [anders]> Mike1: ok.. I might not have time to update all versions tonight, but I am working on getting oaf to build, just got the hotfix for ./configure ready.. Will test it now.. :)
23:21 < Mike1> [anders]: super! i will watch how far you get then i will contribute on updating :)
23:22 < [anders]> Mike1: okidoki.. :)
23:30 * [anders] just created hotfix2.patch for oaf...
23:31 * Mike1 anxious to see [anders] fixes :)
23:33 < Mike1> mmmm ...
23:33 * Mike1 see's someone new here, but its a know face
23:33 < Mike1> Hola nAdIeD :)
23:34 < nAdIeD> Jum!, te salude hacerato!
23:36 < Mike1> nAdIeD: mis disculpas no te habia visto
23:36 < Mike1> todo bien?
23:36 < nAdIeD> all right!
23:50 < thalerim> re all
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23:51 < thalerim> mh ... what is the /etc/networks for?
23:52 < Mike1> re thalerim
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23:54 < [anders]> Mike1: I tried to fix oaf so it would build with orbit2 but there was so much wrong I have instead re-instated orbit
23:54 * thalerim misses the allknowing huebi 
23:55 < Mike1> [anders]: O_o??
23:55 < hioki> hi Mike1
23:55 < Mike1> hi hioki
23:55 < Mike1> [anders]: you mean ur patch messed ur work enviroment?
23:55 < hioki> Mike1: i cant compile hdw' bash on rock 1.4
23:56 < hioki> Mike1: many lib errors
23:56 < [anders]> Mike1: I mean oaf 0.6.10 does not build when only having orbit2..
23:56 < [anders]> <- afk
23:58 < Mike1> ok so we will need to have both orbit2 and orbit1 ... ok first package to keep .
23:58 < Mike1> <- afk too
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