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--- Log opened Thu Aug 15 00:00:48 2002 --- Day changed Thu Aug 15 2002 00:01 -!- angel|of|chaos [AngelofCha@p5082BCE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (".: https://www.mpm-lan.de :.") 00:02 < huebi> Mike1: no, I updated binutils and tested eject. eject now works on ia32 and sparc64 00:02 < Mike1> huebi: sweet!, did you need to change anything? 00:02 < esden> re 00:02 < esden> holyolli: ? 00:02 < Mike1> re esden 00:03 < huebi> only the 2nd line in eject.pz. The spaces must be tabs. 00:03 < Mike1> huebi: this is very strange i always make it with tabs 00:03 < Mike1> ans always need to be fixed 00:05 < huebi> if you use copy and paste with the mouse the tabs become spaces 00:05 < holyolli> esden: do you know a way to chance the g++-flags during compile? or do i have to patch the makefile? 00:05 < holyolli> esden: it's because of qt on alpha. 00:06 < holyolli> i have to chance from -O2 to -O0 00:06 < thalerim> ah esden 00:06 < thalerim> ... it's fscking 00:06 < holyolli> otherwise the build process coredumps (and probably also on ppc and sparc) 00:07 < esden> holyolli: you mean you want to change the flags during the compile of qt ? 00:07 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@217.89.2.95] has joined #rocklinux 00:07 < holyolli> well i want to chance them from qt.conf 00:07 < holyolli> but i think that "wildes herumpatchen" is not the right way.. ;) 00:08 < tsa> https://fun.drno.de/txt/german/kindermund.txt 00:08 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@217.89.2.95] has quit (Client Quit) 00:08 < tsa> lol. 00:08 < tsa> Ein Pfirsich ist wie ein Apfel mit Teppich drauf. 00:09 < holyolli> hehe 00:09 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD959025F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:09 < esden> loool 00:10 < tsa> auch ziemlich cool.. 00:10 < tsa> https://fun.drno.de/pics/kiwi.gif 00:11 < owl> tsa: spinner 00:11 < tsa> hehe 00:12 < tsa> https://fun.drno.de/pics/english/FemaleAnatomy.jpg 00:12 * tsa duckt sich mal besser.. 00:13 * owl tritt tsa so richtig!!! 00:14 < thalerim> lol 00:16 < owl> thalerim: hier wird nicht gelacht 00:17 < thalerim> warum nicht? 00:17 < thalerim> Kann owl etwa nicht Witze über sich selbst machen? :-) 00:17 < thalerim> bzw. ertragen 00:17 < owl> thalerim: ist so. gesetz. paragraph 938, rocklinux-gesetzbuch 00:18 < thalerim> ich bin priviligiert, ich darf alles 00:18 < thalerim> ;-P 00:18 < owl> thalerim: du bist ein mann, du darfst nix 00:18 < tsa> owl: sei friedlich, geh Kaffee kochen. 00:18 < thalerim> yup ... (jetzt hast du angefangen) ... du darfst dafür kaffee machen 00:18 < owl> tsa: noe. nie. und friedlich - was ist das? 00:19 < owl> bla 00:20 < thalerim> lol ... 00:20 < owl> was ist der unterschied zwischen einem mann und joghurt? 00:20 -!- aszlig [~aszlig@paradome.de] has quit ("Lost terminal") 00:20 < owl> joghurt hat kultur! 00:20 < thalerim> owl: du bist so süß, wenn du dich aufregst *hihi* 00:20 * Mike1 leaves for some nice vacation 00:20 < Mike1> might come back for a bit on friday 00:20 < owl> thalerim: sr??? 00:20 < thalerim> hehe, have phun @ Mike1 00:20 < Mike1> see you all my friend 00:21 < thalerim> dear about your wife 00:21 < Mike1> thalerim: sure i will 00:21 < tsa> have fun, Mike1 00:21 < owl> have fun, Mike1 00:21 < Mike1> bye 00:21 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 00:21 < owl> bye 00:21 < huebi> cu owl 00:21 < owl> nix cu... 00:21 < owl> ich meinte nur "bye Mike1" 00:22 < owl> :P 00:22 -!- Ge0rG is now known as ge0rg 00:22 < thalerim> <owl> thalerim: sr??? <- sr? 00:22 < tsa> thalerim: frau versucht zu tippen.. 00:23 < owl> thalerim: was hattest du geschrieben??? 00:23 < thalerim> owl: du bist so süß, wenn du dich aufregst *hihi* <- 00:23 < owl> tsa: nein, ich vermute stark, dass thalerim umlaute verwendet hat... 00:23 < thalerim> achso 00:23 < thalerim> suess 00:23 < owl> thalerim: waaaaas? 00:23 < tsa> hehe 00:23 < thalerim> *g* 00:24 * tsa ueberreicht thalerim den goldenen Bagger. 00:24 < tsa> *duck* 00:24 < esden> this is really cute !! : https://fun.drno.de/pics/perl.jpg 00:24 < esden> ;-) 00:24 < thalerim> lol ... 00:24 < thalerim> tsa: interpretier das wie du willst :-P 00:24 < esden> this girl has been signed ;-) 00:25 < tsa> ah, yesss ;) 00:25 < owl> wuah!!! 00:25 < tsa> esden: is this owl? 00:25 < owl> tsa: shut up!!! 00:25 < thalerim> puh, esden ... ich hab kein bock mehr 00:25 < esden> tsa ... no ... why??? 00:25 < thalerim> ich kreiere jetzt den patch 00:25 < tsa> esden: just curious.. 00:25 < esden> thalerim: du gibst auf ? 00:26 < thalerim> lol für heute schon 00:26 < tsa> esden: just thought you might know owl's ass better than i do.. *tiefduck* 00:26 < thalerim> du kannst ja mal versuchen, da ne passende farbe rein zu kriegeen 00:26 < esden> thalerim: keine ausdauer was ? ;-) *fg* 00:26 < huebi> esden: kann man den Kontrast am LCD irgendwie einstellen? 00:26 * owl koepft tsa!!!!!!!!!!!!! 00:26 < holyolli> .oO(tsa bückt sich heute erstaunlich oft und doll... ;-) 00:27 < esden> tsa: hehe ;-) not really 00:27 < tsa> holyolli: muss sein - sonst waer der kopp jetzt weg.. 00:27 * -> esden is searching a new ass to explore ;-) 00:28 < owl> esden: tsssssssssssssssss. 00:28 < holyolli> urks 00:28 < owl> esden: du hasst probleme 00:28 < esden> young ... crunchy ... and wellformed please 00:28 < esden> and femail 00:28 < esden> if possible ;-) 00:28 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A68.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/") 00:29 < owl> *gggg* 00:29 < tsa> esden: choose any female that is currently available here.. 00:29 < owl> *tsa_auf_mond_tret* 00:29 < holyolli> https://fun.drno.de/txt/german/seminarangebot_fuer_frauen.txt <-- hehehe 00:29 < owl> s,mond,mars 00:29 < holyolli> should we also create fRock...female Rock.. ;-) 00:30 < tsa> rotfl. 00:30 < owl> holyolli: nein!!! 00:30 < esden> tsa: no. 00:30 < holyolli> doch...easy to install. insert cd. boot. run linux. 00:30 < owl> holyolli: hast du die falsche freundin erwischt? 00:31 < holyolli> mh? warum? 00:31 < esden> huebi: you now know what your next project is 00:31 < tsa> holyolli: most important point: no root access for user, system does not accept any kind of input. 00:31 < owl> *esdenkill* 00:31 < holyolli> tsa: jepp 00:31 < tsa> (otherwise, it would be broken pretty fast.. 00:31 < owl> *holyollikill* *tsakill* 00:31 < tsa> ) 00:31 < esden> owl: traust dich eh nicht 00:31 < holyolli> tsa: and... NO INTERNET! 00:31 < holyolli> ;-) 00:31 < holyolli> *wegrenn* 00:31 < owl> esden: sicher 00:31 < esden> ne tust du nicht 00:32 < tsa> holyolli: full ack. 00:32 < thalerim> esden: https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/patches/install_menu/ 00:32 < tsa> women on the internet are a very bad idea. 00:32 < thalerim> ich mach morgen, oder sonstwann weiter 00:32 < holyolli> jepp 00:32 < owl> esden: na das werden wir mal sehen... pass' nur auf... 00:32 < holyolli> expensive 00:32 < tsa> just remember melissa. 00:32 < holyolli> hehe 00:32 < esden> lool ... a cool mouse for owl ... as a windoof user ;-) : https://fun.drno.de/pics/mice.jpg 00:32 < esden> owl: ok ... ich warte 00:32 < esden> thalerim: thanks 00:33 < owl> esden: still! ich bin gerade unter linux! also!!! meckermode_off, bitte! 00:33 < esden> kk 00:33 < tsa> esden: too many mouse buttons. 00:33 < tsa> https://www.jaenicke.org/fun/users.jpg <- better 00:34 < owl> tsa: ich geb's auf. ich bin zu friedlich... verdammt ;-/ 00:34 < holyolli> *rotfl* 00:35 < owl> holyolli: lach mich ned aus 00:35 < tsa> owl: nanu, einsichtig obwohl weiblich? 00:36 < owl> tsa: nein. nicht einsichtig. nur friedlich! 00:36 -!- rxr_ [~rene@212.202.200.119] has joined #rocklinux 00:36 < thalerim> esden: please apply it right now ... 00:37 < tsa> oh, owl ist beim seminar bereits bei modul I, schritt 1. 00:37 < holyolli> owl: ich lache dich nicht aus. ich hab mich über das lustige bild von tsa amüsiert... 00:37 < tsa> 1.)Das Schicksal akzeptieren lernen: Ich bin als Frau geboren. 00:37 < tsa> 2.)Den gewohnten Lebensraum kennen lernen: Die Küche. <- Ha! Ab morgen macht owl hier Kaffee fuer alle.. 00:37 < owl> :PPPPPPPPPP 00:38 < owl> tsa: du brauchst einene lektion im umgang mit IRC wie mir scheint... _umlaute aus_ !!! _bitte_ 00:38 < owl> und, nein kaffee gibt's nee 00:38 < owl> d 00:38 < tsa> öwl. 00:39 < thalerim> ßöäüüöäßüöäüößääöüßöüäöü`ö`äüàèìíéîâ 00:39 < tsa> copy&paste beherrscht bisher leider noch keine automatische umwandlung von umlauten.. 00:39 < owl> tsa: dann wandle es manuell um 00:39 < tsa> warum? 00:40 * tsa kann hier auch umlaute lesen. 00:40 < owl> weil mein client keine umlaute versteht 00:40 < holyolli> thalerim: wo war denn das å? 00:40 < owl> (/me verwendet im moment noch knoppix) 00:40 < esden> thalerim: on it ... 00:41 < thalerim> owl: consolechars -f /usr/share/kbd/consolefont*/lat0-12* 00:41 < huebi> Umlaute ausschliesslich mit arabischer Tastatur und hebraeischem Zeichensatz 00:41 < owl> thalerim: bla 00:41 < tsa> owl: und was ist mit farben? 00:41 < owl> *knurr* 00:42 < thalerim> owl: dann ist dir nicht zu helfen ... äöü âôêîêèéàùß ... 00:42 < tsa> bjy ung qbbsr buera 00:43 < owl> thalerim: na und? 00:43 -!- owl is now known as _NULL 00:43 < thalerim> nix ... ich tu nur nicht deine faulheit untersützen, und wandle die umlaute um 00:44 < _NULL> ach ist mir doch wurscht 00:44 < thalerim> dann reg dich doch nicht so künstlich auf 00:44 < _NULL> thalerim: lass mich doch aufregen so viel wie's mir passt! 00:44 < chrisime> oh je 00:44 < chrisime> null in action? 00:44 < tsa> .oO( Thou shalt not follow the NULL pointer ) 00:45 < chrisime> lol 00:45 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5624.pppool.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:45 < tsa> .oO( noch 10 minuten weiter so, dann beisst owl in die Eumex.. ) 00:45 < thalerim> _NULL: nö, irgendwer muss ja auf deinen blutdruck aufpassen ... bei der gesellschaft hier ... hum 00:45 < tsa> lol. 00:46 < thalerim> och schon weg 00:46 < tsa> hab mich um 10min verschaetzt.. 00:46 < thalerim> +gg* 00:46 < thalerim> tsa: hör mal lieber in der nächsten zeit auf, sie zu ärgern ... die kirget ja schon komplexe ... *lol* 00:46 < chrisime> des is ne nudel 00:46 < thalerim> ... gegen männer ... *hrh* 00:46 < chrisime> die gibt sichs immer selbst 00:47 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-172-51.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:47 < tsa> hm.. 00:47 < tsa> vielleicht braucht owl nen mann. wer am naechsten dran wohnt, muss sich opfern, ok? 00:48 < chrisime> hmm 00:48 < chrisime> wo wohnt die? 00:48 < tsa> afaik ingolstadt. 00:48 < huebi> chrisime: neben dir 00:48 * chrisime fluechtet im falle eines falles 00:48 < tsa> duerfte also esden oder fake treffen.. 00:48 < tsa> *G* 00:49 < chrisime> *g* 00:50 -!- WKaibigan [~Aloicious@ACB45095.ipt.aol.com] has quit () 00:50 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5624.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:50 -!- owl is now known as _NULL 00:50 < _NULL> re 00:51 < tsa> re _NULL 00:51 < tsa> eumex? 00:51 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5624.pppool.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:52 -!- _NULL [owl@B5624.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:52 < _NULL> re 00:52 < tsa> hm...was machst du da? 00:52 * _NULL erschiesst ihr notebook! 00:53 < _NULL> tsa: mein hardwareschrott (notebook) hat diverse probleme 00:54 < tsa> _NULL: rein interessehalber: wer vom channel hier wohnt am dichtesten bei dir? 00:55 < _NULL> gute frage 00:57 -!- _NULL is now known as NULL 00:58 < tsa> .oO( ..und der gewinner heisst..? ) 00:58 < NULL> haeh? 01:00 < tsa> NULL: egal.. 01:00 -!- tomik [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has joined #rocklinux 01:00 < tomik> hi 01:00 < NULL> hi tomik 01:05 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D2A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:10 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M092P026.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:12 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD95223A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:13 -!- Mike1 [~mike@mail.costarica.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:13 < Mike1> re 01:13 < Mike1> :) 01:14 < NULL> re Mike1 01:14 < tsa> re Mike1 01:14 * Mike1 has to come back for half a bit 01:14 < Mike1> incridible but true i am using dialup to loggin my box :) 01:14 * Mike1 havent use dialup in so long 01:18 < NULL> https://www.the-gothicworld.de/lyrics/184.htm 01:20 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M112P017.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 01:21 < Mike1> ok i go now 01:21 < Mike1> bye 01:21 -!- Mike1 [~mike@mail.costarica.net] has quit ("Read error: 1.732050808 (Excessive square root of 3)") 01:22 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD959025F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I like core dumps") 01:32 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@217.89.0.157] has joined #rocklinux 01:57 -!- ge0rg is now known as Ge0rG 02:03 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@217.14.165.35] has left #rocklinux ("X-Chat: double your pleasure, double your fun!") 02:46 -!- NULL [owl@B5624.pppool.de] has quit ("back to fscking reality") 02:52 < tsa> n8 02:52 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E1138C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:20 -!- chrisime 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==> CWD /pub/gimp/v1.3/v1.3.7 ... done. 09:37 < plfiorini> fuck! i have already gimp-1.3.7.tar.bz2 09:37 < plfiorini> i dunno why wget downloads it! 09:38 < [anders]> Wow.. if more packages could be converted to gtk+ 2.0 we could drop gtk+ 1.2 completely.. It's only needed for a few things.. 09:38 < plfiorini> [anders]: i'll add other things, i have added also openjade and updated reiserfsprogs, etc.. 09:38 < plfiorini> yeah 09:38 < plfiorini> gimp 1.3.7 works well on debian woody (here) 09:39 < plfiorini> i need only my adsl :( 09:39 * plfiorini hates his provider 09:39 < plfiorini> [anders]: i have my rolling tree merged with the your gnome2 tree, i have added some descriptions and i'll do some customization to the gnome environment 09:40 < plfiorini> i am happy 09:41 < plfiorini> and i'll make some themes packages 09:41 < plfiorini> like redhat limbo's wonderland, cleanice.... 09:41 < [anders]> plfiorini: Debian Woody have not yet moved to Gnome2 (and Gtk+ 2.0) so Gimp probably still uses the old Gtk+ toolkit.. 09:41 < plfiorini> [anders]: nope 09:42 < plfiorini> [anders]: i use gimp from sources, and i know the difference to gtk 1.2 and 2.0 09:42 < [anders]> plfiorini: is there flags in configure then to specify which one to use? :) 09:42 < plfiorini> [anders]: nopèe 09:42 < plfiorini> nope 09:44 < [anders]> so they made a clean break over to gtk2.. interesting.. 09:44 * plfiorini will suicide himself because he's removed gnome1 from the rolling tree 09:44 < plfiorini> [anders]: yes 09:44 < plfiorini> the first stable gnome2 of mrproject is released! yeah 09:46 < [anders]> nice.. :) 09:47 < plfiorini> :) 09:47 < plfiorini> :( 5.12 KB/s 09:47 < [anders]> have they fixed bonobo yet to not rely on old crappy gnome 1.4 packages yet? 09:48 < [anders]> Galeon required bonobo which required gnome-vfs and gnome-print from Gnome 1.4 iirc.. 09:48 < plfiorini> what do you mean? 09:48 < plfiorini> the dependencies are a sort of 09:49 < [anders]> I suppose I could build Galeon w/o bonobo/Gnome support.. 09:49 < plfiorini> but g2 has lib{bonobo|gnome}[ui] 09:49 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:49 < [anders]> moin tsa 09:49 < tsa> hi * 09:49 < tsa> hi [anders] 09:49 < plfiorini> hi tsa 09:49 < tsa> hi plfiorini 09:49 < [anders]> plfiorini: yeah, but bonobo made specific requests to what versions of what it wanted.. and it wasn't asking for G2 stuff... 09:53 < plfiorini> [anders]: ah, then... libgnome 2.0.0 requires libbonobo 2.0.0 09:53 < plfiorini> [anders]: libbonoboui requires libgnomecanvas and libgnome 09:53 < plfiorini> >= 2.0 09:54 < plfiorini> the libraries have different abi since the previous beta releases 10:00 < esden> morning @ all new ;-) 10:03 < tsa> hi esden 10:03 < [anders]> moin esden 10:13 < rxr_> the new copy-right notices suck 10:14 < esden> but we need them ... rxr_ 10:14 < esden> ahh ... ok ... IRC stats updated 10:15 * plfiorini gnupg path updated in the .pz file 10:22 < esden> hmm ... 10:22 < plfiorini> ok my pstn requires $$$ so i quit 10:23 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@ppp-162-154.26-151.libero.it] has quit ("telecom devi morire") 10:25 < tsa> *yawn* 10:25 < tsa> <- tired 10:26 < tsa> hehe... esden: you're 20 words behind me in the stats ;-) 10:30 < esden> hehe ... ok so I have to write more 10:30 < esden> it really sux that I have so little time to chat in the last time 10:30 < esden> and I will be away for the next 4 weeks at least 10:36 -!- Netsplit vinge.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: Freak 10:36 < [anders]> esden: I know the feeling.. I have not been able to chat much at all in the last two weeks or so.. 10:36 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Freak 10:36 < [anders]> Been busy trying to get Gnome2 working.. 10:37 < esden> I hope that when my university time start's again I have more time to chat 10:37 < esden> and code for rock 10:38 < [anders]> esden: give it a month or so into the term bef expecting much time to be available.. 10:38 < [anders]> before even.. 10:41 * [anders] is getting more and more accustomed to Gnome2 and Nautilus.. Makes things look nice while still being quite usable.. 10:42 < esden> hmm hmm ... 10:42 < [anders]> For work at least it is quite handy. Metacity is a nice WM to use with ut as well as it suffers less from featureitis than sawfish 10:42 < [anders]> s/ ut / it / 10:43 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A68.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:43 < [anders]> heh, the only reason I started down the road on gnome2 was the fact that I wanted to try out Metacity.. :-D 10:43 < [anders]> moin snyke 10:44 < snyke> moin 10:45 < esden> I WANT THIS T-SHIRT: https://fun.drno.de/pics/bomb.jpg 10:47 < esden> hi snyke 10:47 < esden> [anders]: you are allowed to use on your desktop what you like 10:50 < tsa> esden: hehe...nice shirt 10:51 < tsa> https://fun.drno.de/pics/caffeinebox.jpg <- nice machine. 10:59 < [anders]> esden: I know... Sawfish was irritating me, WindowMaker was nice but not quite what I was looking for, Enlightenment was taking too long and was getting very bloated... 10:59 < [anders]> What I wanted was something functional, still looking nice and something that 'just worked'... 10:59 < [anders]> Gnome2 + Metacity + Nautilus = solution... 11:00 < [anders]> Time to tag on all the other little bits that make a system usable... 11:01 * [anders] needs squid, junkbuster, xmms and preferably something to replace JPilot with a calendar/mail/pim tool.. (Evolution...) 11:15 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958DC28.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:16 < thalerim> moin all 11:25 < esden> rofl die : https://fun.drno.de/pics/german/der_wahre_grund.jpg 11:25 < thalerim> esden: What do you say about my improvements? And have you added anything/modified it somewhat? 11:25 < esden> brb 11:26 < thalerim> mh? i came you go ... hrhr 11:26 < tsa> esden: have a look at the movies there.... cool stuff 11:28 < esden> thalerim: no time yet to test ... sorry ... 11:28 < esden> thalerim: I will do it now 11:28 < thalerim> humpf 11:30 < esden> thalerim: sorry ... :-( 11:35 < esden> hmm ... thalerim it looks strange ... I make a screenshot ... 11:36 < thalerim> ..hmpf.. 11:37 < esden> hehe schedulercode as background ... I like it ;-) 11:39 < thalerim> what's with the strange appearence? 11:39 < esden> thalerim: mom 11:41 < esden> thalerim: https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/rock_menu_installer.png 11:41 < esden> thalerim: white on gray ... ??? 11:42 < esden> but I must say I love this blue, red, black kombination, very much! 11:42 < thalerim> mh ??? 11:42 < thalerim> try it in the console 11:42 < esden> thalerim: kk 11:43 < thalerim> huh ... 11:43 < thalerim> i haven't tested it in an xterm so far since I have no color displayable xterm 11:44 < esden> thalerim: ahh in the console it looks great !! 11:44 < thalerim> puuh ... 11:45 < esden> hehe 11:45 < thalerim> the pkg info isn't complete yet ... must add the colons (they're cutted so far) ... and a good highlighting mix 11:46 < esden> thalerim: have fun with highlighting ... that is a lot of string work ... and not trivial afaik 11:47 < thalerim> hehe ... i was sitting almost 3hours on it ... yesterday ... now it's nearly ready ... 11:47 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:47 < bluefire> Moin 11:47 < esden> thalerim: I am looking forward to see your next version of the patch 11:48 < esden> hi bluefire 11:48 < hackbard> export TER=linux ... and the colors appear :) 11:48 < hackbard> +M 11:48 < thalerim> esden: yup, must fix the df thing 11:49 < thalerim> enter "summary information", you'll get only the informartion of one partition instead of all ... but i know where the error lays. 11:49 < esden> thalerim: yes I know the problem ... bet had no time to take a deeper look on it 11:51 < esden> [anders]: I am using wmaker currently and like it very much ... from time to time I also use evilwm ... I like it a lot too 11:52 < esden> [anders]: the only thing I miss in evilwm is xinerama support 11:52 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit ("leaving") 11:56 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly^ROCKlinux 12:01 < [anders]> esden: https://trudheim.org/Screenshot.png 12:02 < Freak> wow 12:02 < Freak> nice 12:05 < [anders]> I kond of like it.. ;-) 12:05 < [anders]> s/kond/kind/ 12:06 < Freak> heh :) 12:08 < esden> https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/menu_console_1.png 12:08 < esden> https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/menu_console_2.png 12:08 < esden> https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/menu_console_3.png 12:08 < esden> https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/menu_console_4.png 12:08 < esden> https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/menu_console_5.png 12:08 * -> esden loves framebuffer ;-) 12:09 < esden> [anders]: your trash is really BIG ;-) 12:09 < Freak> hehehe 12:10 * -> esden want's alpha blending in X !!! >_< 12:10 < Freak> uhhm 12:11 < esden> full featured alpha blending not emulation of this effect 12:11 < Freak> I can download the latest snapshot, compile it on my faster (non-ROCK) box and burn the iso to install it on my other box, right? 12:12 < esden> Freak: yes ... if you get the other non rock box to compile rock ... all should be fine 12:12 < esden> I mean all will be fine 12:12 < Freak> can I precompile it here? 12:12 < Freak> because this is 800mhz and the other box is.. 333 iirc 12:12 < Freak> yeah, 333mhz 12:13 < esden> yes you can procompile it on the 800mhz 12:13 * -> esden would like to see a complete anyncron cpu ... that must be fsckng fast 12:13 < Freak> mmkay thanks :) 12:14 < esden> Freak: denada 12:15 < tsa> anyncron? 12:16 < [anders]> esden: framebuffers are okay, but I like having several windows side by side to compare things.. 12:16 < thaly^ROCKlinux> [anders]: screen 12:16 < [anders]> and the theme used in my Nautilus is the ScalableGorilla theme.. using svg gfx.. :) 12:17 < [anders]> thaly^ROCKlinux: 'side by side' 12:17 < thaly^ROCKlinux> I *love* framebuffer with my matrix patch 12:17 < tsa> hehe 12:17 < tsa> esden: what's anyncron? 12:18 < [anders]> asynchronus he must mean.. 12:18 < tsa> aaah! 12:18 < tsa> been there, done that. 12:18 < tsa> https://www.techfak.uni-bielefeld.de/ags/ti/lehre/PSALM/ 12:18 < tsa> (german, sorry) 12:18 < esden> [anders]: dualhead is your friend ;-) 12:19 < esden> [anders]: but I also use X because I still not have mozilla running on framebuffer 12:19 < esden> or better the gecko engine ... that would be enough 12:19 < Freak> esden: should I make it a generic or a dROCK-build? it's my first build and .. actually I wanna have gnome2, too ;) 12:20 < Freak> that's all it should be there for :) 12:20 < esden> 1.7 ... you are really sure you want to compile the development vorsion ... 12:20 < [anders]> hmm.. I'd like accelerated fb and to be able to use X apps on that w/o having to use XFree86 as such.. should be a lot faster.. 12:21 < esden> Freak: it is not installable yet ... you can install it by hand but there are no bootable CD's yet 12:21 < esden> afaik 12:21 < Freak> esden: hmm 12:21 < Freak> esden: the destination box is in my LAN, can't I just.. no of course I cant.. 12:21 * [anders] have built 1.5.18-Gnome2 and have all the install packages but needs to sort out the install disks problem.. 12:21 < esden> [anders]: https://www.directfb.org/ 12:22 < Freak> mnkay.. 12:22 < Freak> btw: ./scripts/Create-PkgList: line 104: gawk: command not found 12:22 < [anders]> esden: not quite production level yet though, is it? 12:22 < Freak> that's nothing to worry about, huh ;) 12:22 < esden> Freak: you can create a bootdisk with net support and nfs support 12:22 < thaly^ROCKlinux> [anders]: yes ... fb is crawling 12:22 < esden> then you can install the remote box 12:23 < Freak> esden: so I could build 1.7 here and then transfer it to the destination box? 12:23 < esden> [anders]: I do not know their current status ... 12:23 < [anders]> thaly^ROCKlinux: any idea when fully accelerated fb will be avialable? 12:23 -!- thaly^ROCKlinux is now known as thaly^gradnma 12:23 < esden> Freak: you could if you create the install/bootdisk by hand ... 12:23 < Freak> is that hard? 12:23 < thaly^gradnma> [anders]: mh ... no idea must research .. but it'd be interesting, I'll do it later when i finished the install menu 12:23 < thaly^gradnma> cya 12:24 < esden> Freak: or plug the disk of the other machine in the 800mhz machine ... mount the partition and tar xfvI the packages on it 12:24 < Freak> no that would mean losing my three weeks of uptime heh ;) 12:24 < Freak> I know.. uptime is obsolete ;) 12:24 < Freak> ok .. 12:24 < Freak> so I'll just go and get the stable. 12:25 < esden> Freak: but all this is the hard way to get rock ... you could also get 1.5.x tree and compile this ... 12:25 < Freak> heh ;) 12:25 < Freak> but I want bleeding edge easy! ;) 12:25 < esden> Freak: 1.5 the lame way to get rock ... 1.7 the l33t way to get rock ;-) 12:25 < Freak> https://www.rocklinux.org/releases/rock-src-1.5.12.tar.bz2 -> is that the latest? 12:25 < Freak> hrhr 12:26 < Freak> I mean.. just tell me which one to take 12:26 < [anders]> esden: oh behave.. ;-) 12:26 < esden> Freak: both trees are bleeding edge ... 1.5 is even more bleeding edge ... at least in package numbers 12:26 < Freak> hmmm :) 12:27 < esden> 1.7 is technologically more advanced ... but to get rock running you will not nesseserily need this ... 12:27 < esden> [anders]: *GG* 12:27 < Freak> so should I download this 1.5.12? 12:27 < esden> Freak: no ... wait 12:28 * [anders] needs to fix the install-disks scripts.. 12:28 < [anders]> Freak: there is a 1.5.18 available 12:28 < Freak> gimme that ;) 12:28 < esden> Freak: https://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.18/rock-src-1.5.18.tar.bz2 12:28 < Freak> sourceforge? 12:28 < Freak> ah 12:28 < [anders]> 1.5.18 proper do not have Gnome2 12:29 < Freak> but me wants it 12:29 < esden> Freak: you can also get the iso directly ... : https://download.rocklinux.de/1.5/1.5.18/rock-ia32-i586-base+opt-1.5.18.iso 12:29 < Freak> heh 12:29 < [anders]> Mike1, me and a few others are working on porting Gnome2 into it.. 12:29 < Freak> does it have gnome2?` 12:29 < Freak> [anders]: your packages working yet? 12:29 < esden> Freak: not this tree ... there is an other tree containing gnome2 12:29 < [anders]> Freak: no released working ROCK release have Gnome2 yet.. 12:30 < esden> [anders]: besides drock I think 12:30 < [anders]> Freak: it builds, but fails on the install disks part.. I can have an installable ISO for i686 in a few hours.. 12:30 < Freak> [anders]: that would be cool 12:30 < esden> [anders]: coool ! 12:30 < [anders]> esden: does dRock have a working GNome2 installation? :) 12:30 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:31 < esden> [anders]: I am not sure but I think so ... 12:31 < Freak> so should I get dRock instead? 12:31 < esden> [anders]: I do not know drock and I do not use it 12:31 < esden> I only use pure rock ;-) 12:31 < [anders]> now, I am not saying I have the ideal solution in packages and so on, but the base of Gnome 2.0.1 is there and it builds. Some Gnome 1.4 stuff is there to allow backwards compatibility.. 12:31 < [anders]> Freak: you get what you want to use.. :) 12:32 < Freak> but I dunno the differences! 12:32 < [anders]> dRock have more stuff in it, but is a little bit different to plain ROCK.. 12:32 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:33 < Freak> I don't need more stuff, I need gnome2 ;) 12:34 < [anders]> Freak: Then you need to be patient.. ;-) 12:34 < esden> I think that I fix my lcd ... and then write the lcd plugin for 1.7 ;-) 12:34 < Freak> heh 12:34 < Freak> [anders]: so I wait till your iso's done, right? 12:35 < [anders]> Freak: Gnome2 is very bleeding edge.. I have only built it, not tested the results of the build.. :) 12:35 < [anders]> my Gnome2 install was done outside of ROCK, by hand and by trial and error.. 12:35 < [anders]> but it works for me.. ;-) 12:36 < [anders]> If I can get the ISO done, you can try it out if you wish.. :) 12:36 < Freak> I do :) 12:36 < Freak> I mean will 12:36 < Freak> +I 12:36 < esden> here is the lcd of huebi ;-) : https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/hacking/devmeeting-02/12.jpg 12:37 < Freak> .oO(I mean I will) 12:37 < Freak> .oO(need sleep?!) 12:38 < Freak> esden: huh when was that? 12:41 < esden> it was last weekend at clifford in vienna 12:42 < esden> first rock developers meeting 12:43 < Freak> so that's owl? 12:44 < Freak> on 3, 4 and 15 12:44 < esden> yes 12:44 < Freak> doesnt even look like a geek girl haha ;) 12:45 < tsa> hehe 12:45 < tsa> yeah 12:46 < [anders]> barf!! pcmcia modules doesn't work.. 12:46 < esden> [anders]: fix it please !!! *beg* 12:47 < [anders]> esden: the problem is in the way the linux.tar.bz2 is created.. it doesn't include /lib/modules/.....blah 12:48 < [anders]> this is what rxr was going to fix iirc.. 12:48 < tsa> hm.. 12:48 < tsa> we need pretty chix in here. 12:49 < Freak> lol 12:49 < tsa> we should start a chicks-for#rockers-Project. any volunteers? 12:50 < tsa> buy one, get one for free. ;) 12:50 < Freak> lol 12:50 < tsa> anyone knows pretty women with a surname that is _not_ Jpeg? 12:54 < Freak> I didnt know there were any 12:55 < tsa> hm... 12:58 < tomik_> tsa: :)))))) 12:59 -!- tomik_ is now known as tomik 13:03 < thaly^gradnma> re 13:03 -!- thaly^gradnma is now known as thalerim 13:06 < [anders]> Hmmm... /me needs to figure out why the kernel package ends up having *no* modules installed at all.. 13:16 < [anders]> right.. some hacking of linux.conf required to debug this.. and the 2.4.18-rc4 junk is no longer required as we are using 2.4.19 13:16 < [anders]> Freak: if I can get the modules built and end up in the linux.tar.bz2, I can generate an ISO for you to download.. 13:17 < Freak> great :) 13:17 < Freak> but take your time 13:17 < Freak> ;)# 13:20 < [anders]> Well, I would sort of like this to work.. ;-) 13:23 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:23 < holyolli> moin 13:24 < tsa> tag holyolli 13:24 < holyolli> huhu tsa 13:31 < [anders]> sussed it.. :) 13:31 < [anders]> moin holyolli 13:32 < [anders]> linux.tar.bz2 now contains the modules in lib/modules/2.4.19/ 13:32 < holyolli> hi anders 13:33 < Freak> [anders]: so you build the cd now? 13:38 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M119P028.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 13:39 < holyolli> hi clifford_away 13:40 < [anders]> Freak: it is building the rock-debug package now.. I will generate an ISO as soon as I can 13:41 < Freak> yea ok 13:42 < Freak> I will be gone from 15:30 to about 17/18 cet .. so it would be cool if you could just send me a msg when you're done :) 13:42 < thalerim> clifford_away: still away? 13:42 < clifford_away> no. 13:43 -!- clifford_away is now known as clifford 13:43 < tsa> h clifford 13:43 < tsa> +i 13:43 < thalerim> clifford: being working on the install menu, take a look: https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/menu_console_4.png 13:43 < clifford> tsa: just applied your patches. 13:43 < tsa> clifford: ok, thanks. 13:44 < Freak> ok brb 13:44 < clifford> (hope rene didn't also apply the x11 [atches since that would cause troubles when re-syncing ... ;-) 13:45 < clifford> thalerim: why do you use the kernel scheduler as background? 13:45 < [anders]> Freak: I will let you know.. it will show up on https://62.3.122.161:8080/ sometime later today.. 13:46 < thalerim> clifford: no idea why, just for fun ... I'll send today or tomorrow the diffs through the list, you can use whatever you think to be adequate 13:46 < [anders]> Freak: I have not yet tested this, so I have NO idea of the size of the ISO.. it might not fit on a 72min CD-R... 13:47 < clifford> this will only be for interest to the 1.5/1.6 people. In 1.7 we will have a entirely new shell-scripted install tool using dialog as menu frontend. 13:48 < thalerim> lol ... that should be told me 13:49 < [anders]> clifford: nice.. will it use the dependency settings of packages as well? :) 13:49 < thalerim> clifford: apropos dialog, why do you use the old one? 13:49 < clifford> .. it's not fix yet. I will write a prototype within the next weeks. 13:49 < clifford> 0.9b-20020519 is the latest version I was ablo to find .. 13:50 < thalerim> hehe, there'are already two others 13:51 < thalerim> https://invisible-island.net/dialog/CHANGES 13:51 < thalerim> on which I did contribute 13:52 < thalerim> clifford: I am quite familiar to this dialog ... If you need help, call me 13:52 < clifford> yes: why are there no version numbers??? 13:52 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@linus.regehr.net] has quit ("X-Chat: Everybody was Kung Fu fighting!") 13:52 < thalerim> mh? 13:53 < clifford> it's just "dialog.tar.gz 13:54 < thalerim> it's a symlink to the most recent snapshot 13:54 < thalerim> mom 13:54 < clifford> aha! I have it already .. 13:55 < thalerim> ftp://invisible-island.net/dialog/dialog-0.9b-20020814.tgz 13:55 < clifford> dickey should use version numbers on the homepage ... 13:55 < thalerim> i prefer ftp anyway ;-) 13:56 < esden> hi clifford ! 13:56 < clifford> hi esden. we need to talk about dietlibc. 13:56 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13:57 < esden> yes sure 13:59 < esden> you told me in vienna that you would like to include in package.conf an option to let the packet compile with dietlibc ... is that right ? 13:59 < esden> or do you want to do it in an other way 13:59 < esden> ? 13:59 < clifford> thalerim: I added the following note to dialog.desc: 13:59 < clifford> [T] Dialog is initally written by Savio Lam and various branches do exist 13:59 < clifford> [T] (e.g. "lxdialog" which is used for a linux kernel "make menuconfig"). 13:59 < clifford> [T] This is the branch maintained by Thomas Dickey. 13:59 < clifford> is that correct? 14:00 < esden> I do not know if I like this idea ... because it is producing a lot of redundant code ... 14:00 < clifford> esden: why? 14:01 < clifford> where? 14:01 < esden> when you include this logic in the package.conf files ... 14:02 < clifford> I don't think that you got my idea right. 14:02 < thalerim> clifford: no not fully correct. Someone began a new branch: cdialog - Dickey took over the maintaining ... See in the "Authors" part of the Manpage 14:02 < esden> hmm ... you had an idea in vienno how to solve the problem with dietlibc ... right ? 14:02 < clifford> I want to move we stuff we currently have in target/dietlibc to package/base/dietlibc 14:03 -!- tomik [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has quit ("irssi rulezz") 14:03 < clifford> Dietlibc would add a config option like "building all packages which do support dietlibc with dietlibc" and "disable all packages which do not support dietlibc". 14:03 < clifford> The dietlibc target would simply preset this options - as e.g. the install disk would also do. 14:04 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5964.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:04 < owl> hi 14:04 -!- owl is now known as _NULL 14:04 < [anders]> Freak: uhm.. I hope you are going to install this on a i686 arch box.. 14:04 < [anders]> moin owl 14:04 < clifford> Maybe we don't even need an extra "dietlibc target" in this case since that could easily be configured thru the generic target. 14:04 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5964.pppool.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:05 < clifford> thalerim: what description text would you suggest instead? (regarding the history of dialog) 14:05 < esden> hmm ... ok ... but there are patches to the packages ... that are only applied to them when you comple them with dietlibc ... 14:05 < esden> I think I not really get the point ... 14:05 -!- _NULL [owl@B5964.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:05 < _NULL> re 14:05 < esden> hi _NULL 14:05 < _NULL> hi esden 14:06 -!- tomik [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has joined #rocklinux 14:06 < clifford> this patches are stored as package/base/dietlibc/*.diff (not *.patch) and are added to the patch file list of those packages by package/base/dietlibc/parse-config 14:06 < clifford> (as it's done now in the target) 14:06 < esden> clifford: ohh ... yes ... 14:06 < esden> cool ... I like this idea ... 14:07 < clifford> great. do you send me a patch or should I simply do it? 14:07 < esden> clifford: if you like to do it ... do it ... I would need probably lot of time to get it working ... 14:08 < esden> clifford: but I would like to still have the dietilbc target there 14:08 < clifford> I don't want to steal you the expirience and fun of doing it .. ;-) 14:08 -!- Ge0rG is now known as ge0rg 14:08 < esden> marked as experimental 14:08 < clifford> no problem. 14:08 < esden> ok ... I will do it then 14:09 < esden> I hope I get it running ... 14:09 < clifford> that is a problem - we have nothing implemented for marking config options as experimental 14:09 < esden> that is something you could do ;-) 14:09 < _NULL> hi clifford 14:10 < clifford> we could simple write "(EXPERIMENTAL)" to the end of the option. I think that should be enought ... ;-) 14:10 < esden> hmm ... currently yes ... but lateron when we have more of such options we need a switch for it 14:11 < [anders]> rock-ia32-i686-base+opt-1.5.18-Gnome2.iso is available from https://62.3.122.161:8080/ and the ISO is about 540MB in size. 14:11 < clifford> Hi _NULL. Since NULL does not exist in a real world you are just an illusion or at least only able to "non-exist" in a virtual world. 14:11 < [anders]> Untested so far, but if anyone wants to give it a go, feel free to.. DL speed is not huge, so pulling the image will take a while.. 14:11 * clifford needs more jolt cola ... 14:12 < blindcoder> moin everyone 14:12 < [anders]> moin blindcoder 14:12 < esden> clifford: we need to make the rockdev03 longer ... It was great but bit short ;-) 14:12 < esden> hi blindcoder 14:12 -!- tomik [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:12 -!- tomik [~tomik@212.11.125.147] has joined #rocklinux 14:12 < thalerim> clifford: something like "The originial author of Dialog was Savio Lam <lam836@cs.cuhk.hk>, at anytime Pako <demarco_p@abramo.it> branched this version to his own "cdialog"; currently Thomas E Dickey <dickey@herndon4.his.com> takes the job over to care about dialog, but the other persons are still contributing patches from time to time" 14:12 < _NULL> clifford: or i'm just an owl... ;) 14:12 < clifford> esden: yes. you are absolutely right. 14:12 < _NULL> hi blindcoder 14:12 < [anders]> esden: the lack of modules in the linux.tar.bz2 was fixed by commenting out a few lines in the linux.conf.. (At least I think that is what solved the problem..) 14:13 < esden> [anders]: ohh ... ok ... send a patch to huebi please 14:13 < [anders]> esden: in any case, the build completed and I made an ISO.. 14:13 < [anders]> esden: ok.. :) 14:13 < thalerim> so I'll dear about my social contact, see you later, guys (and owl) 14:14 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958DC28.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("...") 14:14 * [anders] has now done the good deed of the day so should now concentrate on work.. 14:14 < esden> please someone mirror [anders] iso on a fast connection ... for example on world 14:15 < esden> or iso.rocklinux.de 14:15 -!- r8o2z6i1i [~snyke@pD9502A78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:15 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A68.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: r8o2z6i1i!~snyke@pD9502A78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de))) 14:15 -!- r8o2z6i1i [~snyke@pD9502A78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Client Quit) 14:15 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:18 < esden> I love my sound system here !!! 14:19 < esden> and my parents are not here ... that is great ... *jumparound* 14:19 < esden> my whole room is jumping yeppiiii 14:19 < blindcoder> hehe 14:19 < esden> blindcoder: would you like to come by ? 14:19 < blindcoder> no time 14:20 < blindcoder> drachi comes round at 1600 and I have to clean my car 14:20 < esden> toll 14:20 < blindcoder> gomen 14:20 < blindcoder> and I need to pack... 14:20 < esden> verraeter 14:20 * [anders] thinks this is nice stats, uptime 21 days 16:19, Rcv 14GB, Xmt 19GB 14:21 < esden> frauenversteher ;-) 14:21 < [anders]> the counter on eth0 seems to wrap now and then.. :) 14:21 < blindcoder> nix da ich muss ihr den Hack Sign OST kopieren 14:21 < blindcoder> [anders]: you should start worrying if it's in the negatives 14:21 < esden> aha ... ich habe schon gedacht du willst was anderes mit ihr anstellen ;-) 14:22 < blindcoder> *hits esden around with a large spiked club* 14:22 < esden> ahh ... that is great ... I want more 14:22 < esden> ;-) 14:24 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off again 14:25 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:27 < clifford> esden: are the output hooks ok as they are ? 14:27 < rolla> re all 14:30 < rolla> [anders] : you around ? 14:33 < [anders]> rolla: somwhat 14:33 < [anders]> somewhat even.. :) 14:38 -!- chriZzzz is now known as chrisime 14:40 < rolla> :) I am having trouble with old-gnome-vfs 14:40 < [anders]> rolla: what type of problems? :) 14:40 < rolla> onfigure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is gener .. 14:40 < rolla> /var/adm/logs/3-old-gnome-vfs.out -> 3-old-gnome-vfs.err 14:41 < [anders]> rolla: gnome-libs must be built before old-gnome-vfs.. 14:41 < [anders]> I have fixed this in my tree but I think you got your version before I got that fix in.. 14:42 < rolla> nod 14:42 < [anders]> I need to sync back to Mike1 as well.. (lots to do now.. but have the i686 binary ISO on the web now..) 14:42 < rolla> cool 14:43 * [anders] going afk, for URL, do '/whois [anders]' for the URL 14:50 < esden> clifford: they are ok ... but I have not yet started to implement the lcd stuff there I will need some more hooks ... like the count how many packages are in the current stage and how many errors aso ... 14:50 < esden> but I will implement them by myself ... that is ok ... 14:50 < esden> ok ... I go to blindcoder cu l8er 15:00 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD9E331BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:01 < term_emu> hoi 15:07 -!- _NULL [owl@B5964.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:13 -!- _NULL [trilluser@B56ce.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:13 < _NULL> re 15:22 < tsa> trilluser@ ? 15:22 < _NULL> aeh? 15:22 < tsa> --> _NULL (trilluser@B56ce.pppool.de) has joined #rocklinux 15:22 < _NULL> ned wirklich 15:23 < _NULL> eigentlich momentan mirc 15:23 < _NULL> und gestern x-chat... 15:23 < _NULL> strange 15:23 < _NULL> moment. ich reconnecte mal 15:23 -!- _NULL [trilluser@B56ce.pppool.de] has quit () 15:24 -!- _NULL [trilluser@B56ce.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:24 < _NULL> re 15:25 < tsa> > _NULL (trilluser@B56ce.pppool.de) has joined #rocklinux 15:25 < tsa> ... 15:25 < _NULL> *confused* 15:26 < tsa> https://fake.by-infonet.de/pics/hacking/devmeeting-02/03.jpg <-- _NULL 15:26 * _NULL is going to kill fake and tsa!!! 15:27 < tsa> sure.. 15:27 < tsa> you're planning this since weeks.. 15:28 < _NULL> hm. tomorrow i will kill fake. 15:28 < tsa> why tomorrow? 15:28 < _NULL> and if i'll see you next time, you'll be killed by me too 15:28 < _NULL> cuz he will give me a isdn-card tomorrow 15:29 < tsa> ...ah...i already thought you were meeting to spend a night together *evilgrin* 15:29 < tsa> c'mon, kill me! ;-) 15:29 < _NULL> eh!!!!! 15:32 < [anders]> tsa: so who is in pic2 and in pic5 ? 15:32 < tsa> 2 is clifford. 15:32 < tsa> 5 is esden 15:32 < [anders]> and pic 6 ? 15:33 < tsa> huebi 15:33 < [anders]> kewl.. :) I thought pic 1+2 might be clifford, didn't know any of the others.. :) 15:33 < [anders]> tsa: so where's the pic of you then? :) 15:34 < [anders]> rolla: how much have you managed to DL so far then? :) 15:34 < _NULL> [anders]: tsa was too lazy to go to the dev-meeting 15:34 < tsa> oh, i wasn't in vienna at that time.. 15:34 < [anders]> _NULL: you think I was to lazy as well? :) 15:35 < _NULL> [anders]: yep ;P 15:35 * tsa wonders why fake made so many pictures with owl.. 15:35 < [anders]> tsa: no, but you might have pics stashed somewhere else.. :) 15:35 < [anders]> _NULL: So the fact I live just a little bit further away didn't come in to play at all? ;-) 15:35 < tsa> https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/gallery/ 15:36 < _NULL> [anders]: i was just kiddin' 15:36 < rolla> [anders] : 12% :( 15:36 < tsa> _NULL: is there anything between you and fake you might want to tell us about? *G* 15:36 < _NULL> tsa: NOOOOO! 15:37 < tsa> .oO( what exactly do women mean when saying "no"? it was "yes", wasn't it? ) 15:37 * _NULL hits tsa! 15:39 * tsa slaps _NULL with a big UN*X manual...ouch, that hurts! 15:40 < [anders]> _NULL: I know.. :) 15:40 < [anders]> rolla: it'll get there.. it's a slow link even though it is ADSL.. 15:41 < _NULL> [anders]: ADSL == slow???? try isdn, then you know, what slow means... ;P 15:42 < rolla> _NULL: ADSL is slow 15:43 < _NULL> hm. 15:45 < [anders]> _NULL: even though ADSL is faster than ISDN and modem, it is still much slower than a T1 15:46 < _NULL> [anders]: yeah. but i really would be happy, if i would have ADSL... 15:50 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #rocklinux 15:57 < [anders]> _NULL: is it not available in your area then? 15:58 < [anders]> tsa: short hair.. :) 15:58 < _NULL> [anders]: it isn't. here you could get TDSL, but not in my town. 15:58 < [anders]> _NULL: it'll get there.. eventually.. 15:59 < _NULL> hm 16:16 < tsa> ..in ten years. 16:16 < _NULL> no. telekom means "even not in 200 years" 16:24 -!- rxr_ is now known as rxr 16:24 < tsa> hi rxr 16:24 < rxr> hi tsa 16:24 < _NULL> moin rxr 16:25 < rxr> but I'm online for half a day now ;-) ... 16:26 < SMP> ahh, Rene 16:27 < rxr> hi SMP! 16:28 < SMP> hmmm 16:29 < Freak> <[anders]> Freak: uhm.. I hope you are going to install this on a i686 arch box.. -- certainly 16:31 < SMP> rxr: do you still want to know why that 'copyright crap' appeared in each and every file? 16:32 < _NULL> hi SMP 16:32 < [anders]> Freak: https://62.3.122.161:8080/ 16:32 < rxr> SMP: sure! 16:32 < [anders]> Freak: rolla is downloading as well, so you'll have to share the bandwidth.. 16:33 < Freak> dang 16:33 < Freak> :) 16:33 < SMP> rxr: I took a look at the packman package manager from Arch Linux at the meeting and I noticed that they had taken significant amounts of code from ROCK Linux scripts into theirs 16:34 < tsa> hehe 16:34 < Freak> [anders]: dang get yourself t3 or something ;) 16:35 < SMP> rxr: without giving credit. Clifford concluded that to be given credit, there should be such a header in each and every file 16:36 < SMP> rxr: thus spake Clifford and wrote a tool to insert and modify it automagically all around the sources 16:36 * clifford reading scrollback 16:37 < clifford> aha. 16:38 < clifford> the script which generates the copyleft notives is scripts/Create-CopyPatch 16:38 < clifford> The last snapshot contains this additional note: 16:38 < clifford> This copyright note is auto-generated by ./scripts/Create-CopyPatch. 16:38 < clifford> Please add additional copyright information _after_ the line containing 16:38 < clifford> the ROCK-COPYRIGHT-NOTE-END tag. Otherwise it might get removed by 16:38 < clifford> the ./scripts/Create-CopyPatch script. Do not edit this copyright text! 16:47 < rxr> clifford: ok - seems resonable - I have not yet noticed other copy from ROCK ... 16:49 < clifford> Arch linux had in a build script multiple pages of 1:1 copies from our sources. 16:49 < rxr> clifford: urgs. 16:50 < clifford> Which is ok (since we are open source) but they had no note about ROCK. 16:51 < rxr> clifford: do they have now? 16:53 < clifford> i don't think so - I didn't sent them a mail. 16:57 < Freak> [anders]: is that ip permanent? 16:59 < [anders]> Freak: sure is.. :) 16:59 < Freak> heh 16:59 < Freak> hey it seems to be a private account so .. that's not so sure. 16:59 < [anders]> Freak: private account?? 16:59 < Freak> it's pretty unusual to have a permanent ip for private access ;) 17:00 < Freak> private 17:00 < Freak> dangit 17:00 < Freak> uhhhm 17:00 < Freak> private is wrong word.. 17:00 < Freak> searching for right expression 17:00 < [anders]> Heh, I have a block of 8 static IP's with my ADSL account.. :) 17:00 < Freak> 0 results returned 17:00 < Freak> grabbing dic 17:00 < [anders]> Freak: static 17:01 < [anders]> Freak: or did you mean 'non-commercial' ? 17:01 < Freak> ok let's say .. in germany it's usual to have .. 17:01 < Freak> right 17:02 < Freak> to have .. uhm dynamic ips from dialups. 17:02 < Freak> I just guessed you had a non-commercial dialup-account and therefore thought it was dynamic 17:03 < [anders]> Freak: no, I have an ADSL subscription with static IP addresses. 17:03 < Freak> it's expensive to get that in germany 17:04 < Freak> (its cheaper in bigger cities I guess) 17:04 < tsa> cu later. 17:04 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 17:04 < [anders]> £30/month here in UK, 512kbit down and 256kbit up 17:04 < Freak> uh 17:04 < Freak> I pay ~40eur/month for 768/128 17:05 < [anders]> availability depends on wether the telephone exchange has been upgraded to cope with it or not. 50:1 contention ratio 17:05 < Freak> same here 17:05 < [anders]> Freak: so you have better DL speed, but worse UL speed than me.. 17:05 < Freak> you got it ;) 17:05 < [anders]> And only a little bit cheaper.. 17:06 * [anders] wants a T1.. 1.5Mbit each way, always on, no contention.. 17:06 < Freak> static ip would be around 60 I guess 17:06 < Freak> but I don't quite remember. 17:06 < [anders]> Freak: worth it though.. 17:06 < Freak> nah 17:06 < Freak> dhis does a good job 17:14 < rxr> clifford: your setup of your computers and keyboards is cool ;-)! 17:21 -!- clifford_ [~clifford@M123P017.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 17:22 < SMP> download.rocklinux.de will be unavailable starting midnight 17:22 < SMP> until further notice 17:22 -!- clifford [~clifford@M119P028.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:24 -!- clifford_ is now known as clifford 17:25 < clifford> rxr: did you apply the KOffice 1.2-rc1 update patch from Sirkull <no-one@phreaker.net> ? 17:35 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 17:36 -!- owl [trilluser@B5b38.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 17:36 < owl> re 17:37 -!- _NULL [trilluser@B56ce.pppool.de] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: owl!trilluser@B5b38.pppool.de))) 17:37 -!- owl is now known as _NULL 17:39 < rxr> clifford: not yet. I did this in dRock - and it is trival. Feel free to apply it ... 17:39 < rxr> I start a build tomorrow. Patches will follow ... 17:40 * rxr away 17:40 < rxr> cu 17:42 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD9E49005.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:44 < thalerim> re 17:48 < [anders]> moin thalerim 17:49 -!- zoran [~commander@pD9E4421D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:56 < zer0_o^> lo 18:04 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p50803082.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:04 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p50803082.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:05 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p50803082.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:06 -!- angel|of|chaos [AngelofCha@pD9E1104D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:08 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:08 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 18:10 < _NULL> re zer0_o^ 18:13 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:15 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 18:19 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50803B5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:28 < clifford> SMP: are you listening? 18:28 * clifford has a problem with cdb .. 18:29 < SMP> sort of 18:29 < clifford> great. 18:29 < clifford> cdb_make_addbegin needs already the datalenght as parameter. 18:30 < clifford> this is bad because that means I would have to store the tar.bz2 first as temp file on the disk .. 18:31 < clifford> I liked to popen tar and write the stuff directly to the cdb (which is possible, if I do know the total lenght of the tar.bz2 file) 18:31 < clifford> any ideas? 18:32 < SMP> I think that writing the tar.bz2 to a file is the best solution 18:32 < clifford> .. but it's not very nice. 18:32 < SMP> the alternative it to do the tar-ing twice :> 18:32 < clifford> I don't see why cdb needs that information already here .. 18:33 < SMP> because the length of a record is stored before the record 18:34 < clifford> hm.... pls wait a sec. 18:34 < SMP> and since cdb can create databases that don not fit into memory.. 18:36 < clifford> yes, yes. but doesn't need to seek the cdb lib into the file anyways for creating the hash?? 18:36 < clifford> oh god! (please overread the gramar in my messages as usual ;-) 18:36 < SMP> ;} 18:37 < SMP> I don't know how exactly that is implemented 18:38 < clifford> ok. I'll change the 'mine' command line for creating an archive file to: 18:38 < clifford> mine -C var-adm-dir package-tar-bz2 package-name gem-file 18:39 < clifford> (If creating a seperate tar.bz2 file is needed anyways I prefer doing that outside 'mine') 18:40 < SMP> in theory you don't even need any cdbmake functions inside mine ;> 18:40 < SMP> you could just popen cdbmake 18:41 < clifford> no. cdbmake e.g. creates a new key whenever a newline is passed to it. 18:42 < clifford> .. great for e.g. creating email-address databases but not good if you want to store binary data. 18:42 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:44 < SMP> clifford: that's not true 18:44 < SMP> "key and data may contain any characters, including colons, dashes, newlines, and nulls." 18:45 < clifford> oh yes. key and data lenght are passed as part of the input. you are right. 18:46 < clifford> however - the cdb api isn't that hard and it might be even more code to convert the datastream than simply creating the file directly. 18:47 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 18:48 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Client Quit) 18:48 < SMP> clifford: yes, mine should rely on as few external tools as possible 18:49 < clifford> .. also this is a good example for getting used to the cdb api. 18:49 < clifford> (it's much easier to create the gem files than working with them) 18:50 < clifford> .. also it's hard to test the rest if one can't create gem files ;-) 18:56 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/") 19:08 < clifford> SMP: Do we store keys and text data with or without a trailing \0 ?? 19:08 < clifford> (I'd say without) 19:09 < SMP> without of course 19:13 < clifford> good. I'll add that to the binary documentation 19:20 < SMP> oh, do we have a plan on how to make tar do atomic renames instead of just overwriting files? ;) 19:20 < clifford> hmmm - no. not yet. 19:21 < clifford> adding a non-standard option ?? 19:21 < SMP> packman used libtar to step though the archive 19:21 < SMP> and could to backups and renames this way 19:22 < clifford> no - we need to use libtar anyways. 19:22 < SMP> good, so now we have a plan ;) 19:22 < clifford> But I'll add that when I'm finished with the rest. 19:23 < SMP> but libtar can't handle bzip2 compressed archives AFAIK 19:23 < clifford> (I need to step thru the archive because I also need to check the md5sums of already installed files and not overwrite them if they have been modified 19:24 < clifford> as soon as libtar can read from an open filedescriptor I can run bunzip2 and a child proc of mine in a pipe .. 19:24 < clifford> s/soon/long/ .. 19:24 < clifford> ('mine' is a very confusing name, btw. but I like it ;-) 19:25 < SMP> ;-) 19:25 < SMP> this package manager is mine, not your's! ;> 19:27 < clifford> hmmm .. this cdb.a only contains a small subset of the required object files. 19:27 < SMP> you also need cdbmake.a 19:28 < clifford> no. 19:28 < clifford> cdbmake.c is the application cdbmake, there is no cdmkae.a 19:28 < clifford> cdb_make.o is part of cdb.a 19:28 < clifford> but I also need alloc.a buffer.a byte.a and unix.a 19:29 < SMP> I see. I only used the old 0.55 interface 19:29 < SMP> clifford: hold on a second 19:29 < clifford> well - "interface" is good. there is almsot no documentation .. 19:31 < thalerim> re all 19:31 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly^menu 19:33 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD9502A78.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:35 -!- angel|of|chaos [AngelofCha@pD9E1104D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (".: https://www.mpm-lan.de :.") 19:36 < thaly^menu> clifford: the structure of the packages' files are *always* the same? (aside the description which is different, of course) 19:37 < clifford> thaly^menu: yes. why do you ask? 19:37 < thaly^menu> then the higlighting for the menu is almost ready 19:37 < thaly^menu> +h 19:37 < thaly^menu> you will see, just want to be sure 19:38 < clifford> vi Makefile 19:38 < clifford> .. oups . 19:42 < praenti> hi 19:42 < praenti> huebi: here? 19:44 < clifford> Aaaaarg! this CDB is crap! 19:46 < thaly^menu> clifford: line four of the package description, is something like "Build on $(uname -a)" - could you change it in "Build on: $(uname -a)" ? 19:47 < clifford> why? do you use the colon as seperator? 19:47 < thaly^menu> yup 19:48 < clifford> thaly^menu: no problem. but why do you need to evaluate this line? 19:49 < clifford> :q 19:49 < thaly^menu> hehe 19:49 * clifford needs a seperate keyboard for irc .. 19:49 < thaly^menu> why? 19:50 < thaly^menu> (me ircs on another PC :-D) 19:50 < thaly^menu> so i must never leave my vim 19:51 < clifford> what do you need the 'Build on' info for? 19:52 < thaly^menu> damn thing ... I recognized i could have done it easier ... urgs ... must rewrite 19:52 < thaly^menu> clifford: you needn't, sorry i know a better way now 19:52 < clifford> ok. 19:54 < thaly^menu> oh 19:56 < thaly^menu> *g* there's only one problem, i thought of just "overreading" the prefixes (like "Package Name and Version"): sscanf(cur_line, "Package Name and Version:%s", tmp); 19:56 < thaly^menu> the problem is that %s ends on spaces 19:56 < thaly^menu> any idea? 19:58 < thaly^menu> i have one :-) 20:10 < thaly^menu> I've just written my own function ;-) 20:24 < rolla> gcc 3.2 is now out :) 20:24 < huebi> fake: WAKE UP! 20:24 < huebi> re btw 20:24 < rolla> yeah I already tried him 20:24 < praenti> hi huebi 20:24 < huebi> hi rolla 20:25 < huebi> hi praenti 20:25 < praenti> huebi: can you say me how i can delete a extension from your cvs 20:25 < _NULL> hi huebi 20:25 < praenti> cvs remove ... 20:25 < praenti> broadcast doesnt exist anymore ;-) 20:25 < huebi> praenti: cd ext-config 20:26 < praenti> ok 20:26 < huebi> praenti: cd <package> 20:26 < huebi> rm <package>.ext 20:26 < huebi> cvs rm <package>.ext 20:27 < huebi> cvs ci -m "I removed the package because ....." 20:27 < huebi> praenti: which package? 20:27 < huebi> praenti: axo 20:28 < huebi> praenti: broadcast is cool. Perhaps we just need an other download location/mirror 20:30 < praenti> huebi: there is a new package called cinelerra 20:30 < praenti> https://heroines.sourceforge.net/bcast2000.php3 20:30 < huebi> praenti: did you test it? 20:31 < praenti> huebi: no. i need to write the extension first. ok i'll let it in the respository until i have the new ext 20:31 < huebi> great 20:31 < praenti> huebi: have you tested the abiword ext already? 20:32 < huebi> praenti: no, I didn't 20:33 < praenti> huebi: another thing *hope that i'm not going on your nerves* is cfengine. we have a new version 20:33 < praenti> the problem is that in the makefile i have a line above the patch which is dynamic. so this patch will not work in the build 20:34 < praenti> how can i do the patch? 20:34 < praenti> huebi: i post the complete patch in the #aol 20:34 < huebi> ok 20:59 < SMP> repost: 20:59 < SMP> 17:22| < SMP> download.rocklinux.de will be unavailable starting midnight 20:59 < SMP> 17:22| < SMP> until further notice 21:01 < huebi> SMP: This meens world is wech... 21:02 < SMP> no, just download.rocklinux.de 21:02 < huebi> SMP: ok thanks. 21:04 -!- WKaibigan [~nick@ACB5B56F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #rocklinux 21:05 < huebi> SMP: When do you think you can manage to setup the mailinglist for the mails out of cvs? 21:05 < SMP> I though about that today 21:05 < SMP> maybe during the weekend 21:05 < chrisime_> huebi: hi 21:06 < chrisime_> huebi: ahnung von sendmail/postfix? 21:06 < huebi> SMP: It would be great till next week. 21:06 < huebi> chrisime_: Noe. 21:09 < chrisime_> habs so halbwegs, aber sendmail suckt 21:15 -!- WKaibigan [~nick@ACB5B56F.ipt.aol.com] has quit ("Client Exiting") 21:16 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pc19.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21:21 < esden> re hi all 21:22 < _NULL> tach esden 21:22 < huebi> huhu esden 21:23 < esden> muhh huebi 21:23 < esden> hi owl 21:24 < _NULL> esden: not owl, NULL 21:29 < rolla> NULL 21:30 < praenti> hi esden 21:32 < esden> hi praenti 21:32 < esden> hi rolla 21:32 < esden> huebi: have you seen the changes of thaly^menu ? 21:32 < huebi> esden: no, I didn't 21:33 < esden> https://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/menu_console_[12345].png 21:34 < chrisime_> hoi esden 21:34 < chrisime_> is there any difference: owl <-> NULL 21:34 < esden> hi chrisime_ 21:34 < chrisime_> sounds both like sh** erm strange 21:35 < thaly^menu> esden: I am completely rewriting the pkg-info part 21:35 < _NULL> chrisime_: yes. NULL = owl_depressed 21:35 < chrisime_> esden: openssh auf bsd hat nen boesen bug, weisst ja 21:35 < chrisime_> _NULL: bist du doch immer 21:35 < huebi> esden, thaly^menu: looks good. I must test it. 21:35 < chrisime_> _NULL: NULL : owl == 1: 10 21:36 < _NULL> chrisime_: das ist mir so richtig sch...(oen) egal... 21:36 < thaly^menu> huebi: later you'll get a patch 21:36 < esden> huebi: I like it very much ... hehe we need plugin support for it so we can make package selection on our lcd displays ;-) 21:37 * SMP shoots esden 21:37 < _NULL> SMP: shoot me! not esden!!! 21:37 < chrisime_> esden: guckt kewl aus 21:37 < huebi> esden: That would be kool. But then we also should think about a LCD with keyboard as micro terminal. 21:37 < esden> I knew that SMP will do something nasty to me when I propose this ;-) 21:37 < esden> huebi: correct ;-) 21:37 < chrisime_> _NULL: the better 21:38 < SMP> _NULL: you should seek professional help. :-| 21:38 < huebi> thaly^menu: I like to have the same feeling as in 'make menuconfig' in the kernel. 21:38 < _NULL> SMP: yeah. a gun. or so 21:39 < esden> hmm ... i think someone is suicid here ... 21:39 < chrisime_> esden: std installer? 21:39 < esden> chrisime_: yes 21:39 < chrisime_> _NULL: hehe, mit waffen spielt man net 21:39 < huebi> _NULL: IMI Desert Eagle .50AE would be my favorite choice for a gun. 21:39 < chrisime_> esden: besser als der jetzige 21:39 < thaly^menu> huebi: mh? you do you mean? Tell it clifford, he said in 1.7 a completely new installation menu based on dialog will be created. - My updated version is for 1.6 only. 21:40 < thaly^menu> s,you,how,1 21:40 < _NULL> huebi: is it free for "U18"-people? 21:40 < huebi> thaly^menu: I mean just the feeling - keybindings - as in menuconfig. 21:40 < esden> chrisime_: das ist der jetzige ... mit veraenderten farben ... und mit einem zusaetzlichen befaehl ... 21:40 < chrisime_> haeh? 21:41 < chrisime_> esden: ich will kein bunti klicki 21:41 < chrisime_> die installation von rocklinux 1.5.18 war einfach 21:41 < chrisime_> aber fehlerhaft 21:41 < huebi> _NULL: It's the bigest pistol avaliable. Used by the Terminator and by the agents in "Matrix" 21:41 < thaly^menu> huebi: mh ... okay, i will change the keybindings a bit 21:41 < esden> chrisme where do you see a mouse there ? 21:41 < _NULL> chrisime_: fehlerhaft? was machst du falsch? 21:41 < esden> hehe ... well said _NULL 21:42 < _NULL> huebi: sw33t. give it to mee! here, my address is... 21:42 < chrisime_> _NULL: na ganz dumm bin ich au net, v.a. wenn kernel panic ist und ich weiss was falsch ist 21:42 < chrisime_> in der lilo.conf!!!!!!!! 21:43 < chrisime_> *sigh* 21:43 < _NULL> chrisime_: tja. ich verkneife mir besser weitere bissige kommentare 21:44 < chrisime_> mach das, 21:44 < chrisime_> sonst kriegst noch die krise 21:44 < chrisime_> und das will ich net 21:45 < chrisime_> so instabile leute... 21:45 * chrisime_ already forgot how to install webmin 21:48 < esden> der starke chrisMAMPF meldet sich der aus programmierpraktikum rausgeworfen wird ;-) 22:00 < thaly^menu> to convert an integer to a string, is there a macro? Or will the implicit converting be sufficient? 22:03 < esden> strtoa or so 22:04 < thaly^menu> no, oyu mix that up with atoi 22:04 < thaly^menu> array to integer 22:05 < esden> ahh ... right 22:05 < thaly^menu> mh ... i must use sprintf then ... what is quite ugly 22:06 < _NULL> https://www.the-gothicworld.de/lyrics/167.htm 22:07 < _NULL> what a text!!! it's great!!! 22:08 < chrisMAMPF> esden: huh 22:08 -!- chrisMAMPF is now known as chrisime 22:10 < esden> thaly^menu: yes 22:10 < esden> thaly^menu: or you write your own conversion routine ;-) 22:11 < thaly^menu> how meant? 22:18 < esden> thaly^menu: write your own conversion routine ... it will be smaller then sprintf 22:21 < thaly^menu> esden: mh ... okay 22:21 < huebi> kool. I stopped the kernel boot with a 'break' on the U5 and continued it with 'go'. Promt is now there. 22:29 < thaly^menu> esden: urgs, ich steh grad auf dem schlauch. Ich brauch eine zahl die soviele Nullen hat, wie groß `num - 1' ist. 22:30 < thaly^menu> 10^(num-1) 22:30 < thaly^menu> (wird der divisor für die konvertions-funktion) 22:36 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD9E331BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zz") 22:37 < thaly^menu> esden? 22:38 -!- theogenis [~tobrit@pD9E49005.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:39 -!- angel|of|chaos [AngelofCha@pD9E1104D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:40 -!- angel|of|chaos [AngelofCha@pD9E1104D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:40 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@pD9E1104D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:41 -!- angel|of|chaos [~Angel@pD9E1104D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) 23:13 < esden> re 23:14 < _NULL> re esden 23:14 < esden> thaly^menu: urgh ... 23:15 < thaly^menu> esden: never mind, do it now otherwise 23:15 < esden> kk 23:19 -!- zoran [~commander@pD9E4421D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:23 -!- nAdIeD [gigax@cable200-75-64-107.epm.net.co] has joined #rocklinux 23:23 < nAdIeD> H! 23:23 < esden> hi nAdIeD 23:24 < nAdIeD> ke mas komo van 23:24 < thaly^menu> *g* 23:26 < esden> nAdIeD: bien i tu ? 23:26 < esden> or so ... 23:27 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@pD9590AD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:27 < thaly^menu> co = columbia ... do they speak Portuguese? 23:28 < esden> no! 23:28 < esden> they speek spanish 23:28 < thaly^menu> ok 23:28 < esden> my mother was in columbia for many years ... 23:28 < thaly^menu> mike speaks it either, doesn't he? 23:30 < esden> mike speaks spanish ... I donno if he speaks portuguese ... but when you know spanish it is not very difficult to understand portuguese 23:30 < thaly^menu> no, I spoke about spanish 23:30 < esden> ahh ok 23:30 < thaly^menu> this fuckin highlighting needs a lot of code 23:31 < esden> I told you that before 23:31 < esden> this is parsing code ... and that is always a lot ! 23:31 < thaly^menu> mh, no trivial things, i should have packed them in a function 23:31 < thaly^menu> er 23:31 < thaly^menu> they're trivial 23:32 < thaly^menu> I dunno well about the color and modes managment of Curses 23:32 < thaly^menu> that'll have to be corrected maybe 23:32 < esden> so do it ... and pack them in functions 23:32 < esden> thaly^menu: create clean code please 23:32 < thaly^menu> i do 23:32 < esden> I know that the installer is a mess ... but do not do it worse 23:32 < esden> ;-) 23:34 < thaly^menu> yo ... i should have packed them in a function 23:34 < thaly^menu> hmpf 23:34 < thaly^menu> will do it tomorrow 23:35 < esden> roofl : https://www.softpink-bubblegum.com/pictures/band_9.jpg 23:35 < esden> kk ... do it thaly^menu 23:38 < thaly^menu> esden: i must a lot of wattrset()s 23:38 < thaly^menu> 'cause i don't know how to mark some parts of a strings as to be colored in whatever 23:38 < thaly^menu> and i don't think it's possible 23:42 < thaly^menu> lol, damn i produced crap :-D 23:43 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50803082.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Success) 23:44 < thaly^menu> at least the first 4 lines are being highlighted 23:45 -!- theogenis [~tobrit@pD9E49005.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("ircII EPIC4-1.0.1 -- Are we there yet?") 23:45 * thaly^menu is shutting down the other PC 23:46 -!- thaly^menu is now known as thalerim 23:54 < esden> hmm ... 23:54 < esden> thalerim: I want a screenshot ! 23:54 < esden> or a patch 23:56 < thalerim> now ... for the first i must install a frambuf grabber (fb is affected by my matrix patch anyway), and #2 ... no, i must shame otherwise 23:56 < thalerim> s,now,no 23:56 < thalerim> also the PC is alredy shutted down 23:57 < thalerim> you'll get it tomorrow 23:59 < esden> matrixpatch ??? --- Log closed Fri Aug 16 00:00:03 2002