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00:00 < Mike1> holyolli: tsa ya me voy
00:00 < Mike1> nos vemos despues
00:00 < Mike1> holyolli: que tengas unas felices vacaciones
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00:01 < Mike1> see you tomorrow
00:01 < holyolli> Mike1: debemos integrar el babelfish en rocklinux...
00:01 < holyolli> ;-)
00:01 < Mike1> holyolli: lo haremos
00:01 < theogenis> Mike1: it's tomorrow
00:02 < theogenis> 00:02
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00:03 < tsa_> hm..
00:03 < theogenis> hrhr
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00:06 < d3mian> nice spanish chat
00:06 < holyolli> hola d3mian
00:08 < d3mian> hola holyolli , que tal ?
00:08 < holyolli> bien. i tu?
00:09 < d3mian> bien, grax
00:10 < d3mian> cya
00:10 < tsa> cu d3mian
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00:18 * -> esden -> tv
00:18 < holyolli> kommt was interessantes?
00:18 < tsa> wohl kaum - war das schon jemals so?
00:19 < _NULL> hm. kam doch mal afaik ein bericht ueber LT.
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00:34 < rolla> re all
00:34 < _NULL> re rolla
00:38 < rolla> you seen mike ?
00:40 < _NULL> rolla: yeah.
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00:50 < SMP> rolla: no public-away please
00:51 < _NULL> hi SMP
00:52 * SMP fears dereferencing a NULL pointer ;>
00:52 < holyolli> *lol*
00:52 < holyolli> hi smp, btw. ;)
00:53 < _NULL> ;)
00:53 < _NULL> nullpointers are funny... especially if you're using windoze ;P
00:58 < tsa> hm..
00:58 < tsa> i don't.
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01:07 < rolla> SMP : Sorry about that damn BitchX
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01:17 < fronti> n8
01:17 < tsa> cu fronti
01:17 * tsa going to bed, too.
01:17 < tsa> cu all.
01:17 < fronti> cu tsa
01:18 < holyolli> n8 tsa
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01:24 < rolla> re all
01:25 < rolla> s
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02:11 < huebi> good night
02:12 < maisenhe> nacht
02:12 < _NULL> ciao huebi. gn8
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02:19 < holyolli> re
02:42 < holyolli> cya
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02:52 < maisenhe> cool
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08:36 < huebi> moin
08:39 < plfiorini> hi *
08:39 < plfiorini> it's too much hot
08:48 < huebi> plfiorini: I shut off all except one computer last night. now it's cold (22 degree) inside here.
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09:30 < [anders]> huebi: good morning.. :)
09:30 < [anders]> moin zusammen
09:31 < [anders]> huebu: ping
09:32 < [anders]> huebi: ping
09:32 < [anders]> *g* can't even type straight this morning..
09:34 < [anders]> huebi: I have a small problem you might be able to help straighten out. The problem is that if I do an end-to-end build but leave out stage 5, I seem to end up with packages that are missing files..
09:35 < [anders]> huebi: for example, the linux package was missing the lib/modules directory, vim is missing usr/bin/vim and there are probably other packages like it. All files are built as they are still in the build tree..
09:36 < [anders]> it has me stumped as I thought it might have been something with make -j2 and flist_wrapper not getting on, but that does not seem to be the case.
09:39 < [anders]> huebi: the problem definately lies somewhere with the flist_wrapper as I have just looked through tthe build log for vim and it is creating lots of files, but only 6 ends up in the flist, and four of them are the var/adm files..
10:04 < fronti> moin
10:10 < [anders]> <- afk
10:38 < huebi> re
10:39 < huebi> [anders]: I start a build later today. Then we can see whats wrong.
10:39 < huebi> tach fronti
10:39 < fronti> tach huebi
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10:41 < thalerim> moin all
10:41 < huebi> hi thalerim
10:42 < thalerim> hehe ... whoever has written the pkg-selector of the Install Menu, should get a big fat asskick by Mathilda
10:43 < thalerim> there is not only one comment ...
10:44 < huebi> thalerim: No comments and cryptic code - the usual ROCK Linux problems.
10:44 < huebi> Source code encryption - nice feature
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10:55 < Krylathon> urgs, re
10:55 -!- Krylathon is now known as thalerim
10:58 < thalerim> huebi: there's a difference between C-programms and shellscripts.
10:58 < huebi> thalerim: really?
10:58 < thalerim> at least for me
10:59 < huebi> thalerim: What is the difference?
10:59 < thalerim> C is somewhat cryptic, in shellscripts i only must take look around, and parts - that could be improved - stick in my eyes immeadiately
11:00 < thalerim> immediately
11:03 < huebi> Sometimes in the shell scripts there are nice pipes with many regular expressions you first have to debug beforeyou can even try to get an idea what it could do.
11:03 < thalerim> huebi: for instance: if in a shellscripts is something like: cat blah | grep 'foo', this causes headache
11:03 < thalerim> yes, but you can find it out easierly
11:04 < thalerim> debugging is a lot easier and quicker
11:05 < thalerim> in shellscript you have to imagine what the shell'll do with this line, then you're able to improve it automaticely
11:07 < huebi> elif [ "$1" = "devel-update" -a $# = 2 ] ; then
11:07 < huebi>         ./scripts/Download -list | grep -v '^ext-c' | sed 's,gz$,bz2,' |
11:07 < huebi>         paste - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | while read x ; do
11:07 < huebi>         find $x -type f -printf "%s %p\n" 2> /dev/null ; done > cur-files.txt
11:08 < huebi> No Comments. This needs about 1h to 1 day to find out what it does and why.
11:09 < thalerim> why?
11:10 < huebi> why it does what it does
11:11 < thalerim> i must only look up the %s and %p
11:12 < huebi> yes, this example is easy. But there are very much worse ones.
11:13 < thalerim> but you can split it into pieces
11:14 < thalerim> in fact, you could improve this line as well
11:15 < thalerim> the grep is not necessary 'cause sed is also able to do this
11:15 < huebi> thalerim: I just want to know what it does exactly. I don't want to invest some time in code sbd. wrote in an ugly unreadable style. So comments are a must in all the ROCK Linux code to get not only super programmers to get involved into ROCK Linux.
11:15 < thalerim> then you would spare one process and its *big* overhead
11:15 < thalerim> of course ... i only say shellscripts are easier to understand
11:16 < huebi> ACK. Shell script syntax is more human readable.
11:17 < thalerim> the problem with sed is, it's cryptic
11:17 < huebi> thalerim: This line can be approved, of course. But If I read a comment what the line does exactly, it's possible to start imediatly with the improving.
11:17 < thalerim> mom
11:18 < thalerim> ack
11:23 < thalerim> ./scripts/Download -list | sed -e '/^ext-c/d' -e 's,gz$,bz2,'
11:25 < huebi> thalerim: applied
11:25 < huebi> ;-)
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11:28 < thalerim> huebi: improving shellscripts means - actually - to remove unnecessary pipes etc. - it causes a lot of overhead you can spare
11:28 < bluefire> Moin
11:28 < huebi> moin bluefire
11:28 < thalerim> huebi: i saw the following used: cat < file | grep 'foo'
11:28 < thalerim> lol!!!
11:28 < huebi> hehe
11:30 < thalerim> #1 bash opens 'file', dup2()d the filedescriptor, then forks it to cat, cat opens it again and prints it to stdout, then grep reads it and greps for 'foo'
11:30 < thalerim> grep 'foo' file
11:34 < huebi> thalerim: Obviously your example gets faster and at the same time the readability improves. Normally the readability gets worse with faster code. That's the point where I come with my "Request For Comments".
11:35 < thalerim> it's obviously clifford's guilty, he missed to add them.
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12:52 < esden> morning
12:53 < fronti> hello esden
12:53 < esden> hi fronti 
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13:47 < huebi> esden: moin
13:53 < tomik> esden: hi
13:58 < thalerim> huebi: hm. you'll test the install menu today, right?
13:59 < thalerim> huebi: i'm not entirely sure whether I fixed the df-bug properly
14:00 < thalerim> huebi: i'll load a new diff up later, must only fix one thing now
14:06 < esden> hi huebi 
14:06 < esden> hi tomik 
14:07 < esden> hi thalerim 
14:07 < esden> thalerim: good ... then I can hack a bit when I am away on it
14:07 < tomik> esden: upgrade your theme .) "feel sexy enough? use rock-linux!" :)
14:07 < esden> tomik: where can I get it from ?
14:08 < thalerim> esden: btw. have you access to the chanserv of this channel?
14:08 < tomik> nowhere... yet :)
14:08 < tomik> rocklinux is better than sex, but not better than sex with two girls .)
14:08 < esden> thalerim: yes
14:09 < esden> thalerim: I am the owner of this thannel ;-)
14:09 < esden> s/thannel/channel/
14:09 < thalerim> esden: in the desciption of the channel that is send to all joiners contains some errors
14:09 < thalerim> Welcome _in_ the RockLinux Developers' Channel
14:09 < esden> ohh ... ok ... tell me the corrected version please
14:10 < thalerim> and "See our homepage _at_ ..."
14:10 < thalerim> should be correct, does anyone protest?
14:13 < thalerim> so i will create now the diffs to upload them
14:13 < thalerim> it must be tested in a real installation environment
14:14 < esden> entrymsg set
14:15 < thalerim> damn ... i need clifford
14:18 < tomik> ;-)
14:22 < thalerim> esden: i haven't made comments to graphic_pkg_information() so far
14:24 < esden> that is ok i think ... I am able to read code ... 
14:25 * -> esden installing his laptop... 
14:25 < esden> thalerim: I will take your code with me in my vacation ... and clean up my own code ... and take a look at your's
14:26 < thalerim> so i should not send it to the list?
14:26 < thalerim> +at all
14:26 < esden> you can send it to the list ... 
14:26 < esden> why not ?
14:27 < thalerim> never mind
14:27 < thalerim> http://www.freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/patches/install_menu/
14:29 < thalerim> huebi: please test it in an install environment ... I don't think I fixed it properly.
14:31 < thalerim> (i talk about the get_df() bug)
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16:47 < rxr> re
16:54 < rxr> hm cliff is away ? - I have some updates and will fix many things in the next weeks. So my rxr rsync tree on my server is again the place to merge changes ?
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17:10 < esden> hi rxr 
17:10 < esden> rxr: seems so
17:11 * -> esden is away for at least 2 weeks is 2 hours too
17:12 < rxr> hi esden
17:27 < esden> ok ... I go now 
17:27 < esden> I have to do some things before leaving
17:30 < rxr> much fun esden !
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17:47 < rxr> hi chrisime
17:54 < rxr> [anders]: are you here ?
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17:58 < owl> hi
18:01 < rxr> hi owl
18:01 < huebi> hi owl
18:02 < owl> hi rxr, hi huebi
18:02 < rxr> hi huebi
18:02 < huebi> hi rxr
18:03 < huebi> esden: Have fun in your hollidays
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18:17 < tsa> hi
18:17 < owl> hi tsa
18:17 < tsa> hi owl
18:20 < term_emu> hi
18:21 < owl> hi
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18:34 < tsa> fektschreibtischlampe
18:34 < tsa> grrr
18:34 < tsa> ww
18:47 < rxr> tsa: hi!
18:47 < tsa> hi rxr
18:49 < tsa> Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhh!
18:49 < tsa> *droehn*
18:50 * tsa hat grad den pre-amped Output der soundkarte wiedergefunden.
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18:51 < tsa> hi plfiorini
18:51 < plfiorini> hi tsa
18:51 < plfiorini> hi *
18:52 < huebi> tsa: lol
18:53 < owl> ciao plfiorini
18:54 < rxr> tsa: in my 1.7 tree many gnome2 updates are included (and some others, too) ...
18:54 * tsa hatte sich schon gewundert, wieso das eigentlich immer viel leiser war als erwartet..
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18:54 < tsa> rxr: nice.
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18:55 < tsa> re huebi
18:55 < plfiorini> ciao owl
18:55 < huebi> re
18:55 < huebi>  /upgrade failed because it did not find the binary
18:55 < tsa> hehe
19:08 < chrisime> hi rxr
19:11 < rxr> hi chrisime
19:11 < rxr> yesterday I updated all gnome-2 packages in ROCK Linux ;-)!
19:13 < chrisime> aaah
19:13 < chrisime> gnome2.0.1
19:14 < chrisime> ^^hoffentlich
19:14 < rxr> chrisime: I took the latest version for each package ...
19:15 < plfiorini> rxr: i will do other packages than acme (now i have only acme)
19:15 < chrisime> rxr: ah fine
19:15 < plfiorini> rxr: and i'll made available my tree, but you should port it to 1.7 :)
19:15 < chrisime> rxr: i hope it did go well
19:16 < rxr> plfiorini: what tree are you talking about ?
19:16 < thalerim> huebi: PING?
19:17 < plfiorini> rxr: mine
19:18 < rxr> plfiorini: wow - and what is in "that tree" ?
19:21 < plfiorini> rxr: it's the tree of my distro, i have a small 0.0.1 version but no iso and no website :)
19:21 < plfiorini> rxr: it works fine here, and i'll release a new version soon, with an iso and the tree
19:23 < thalerim> rxr: mh ... what do you think about an option of ./scripts/Download that contact a ROCK server to choose the most recent pkg version to be downloaded? I'm not fully satisfied with the current way of just using the local base (i know about ./script/Update)
19:24 < huebi> thalerim: pong
19:24 < thalerim> or this option could print that i must update this pkg
19:24 < thalerim> or something like this
19:24 < thalerim> huebi: ah fine. Did you test it already?
19:25 < huebi> thalerim: no, I first want to finish a new build.
19:26 < thalerim> okay. please do it soon since i want to finish my work on it
19:30 < rxr> thalerim: No this would suck - because the patches (and other build details) would not match. But I agree that the "Check-PkgVersio" should be improved ...
19:31 < thalerim> well ... don't come up with this 1.7 stuff ;-)
19:32 < rxr> thalerim: hm ?!?
19:32 < thalerim> <- 1.5
19:32 < thalerim> no check-pkgversion
19:33 < rxr> thalerim: ? Really not? I think we have it for some time now ...
19:33 < thalerim> checkvers.sh
19:33 < thalerim> -s
19:34 < thalerim> what the heck?
19:35 < thalerim> lol
19:37 < rxr> plfiorini: what is your dist about ?
19:39 < owl> rxr: do you have experience with hauppauge devices (tv-card) ?
19:39 < tsa> which chipset?
19:39 < owl> aeh... mom
19:39 < plfiorini> rxr: workstations
19:40 < plfiorini> rxr: i need it mainly at home, but probably i'll use it at work
19:40 < plfiorini> s/mainly/mostly/g
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19:43 < chrisime> s/owl/NULL ?
19:43 < chrisime> *renn*
19:44 < LocalHero> Hi all :)
19:44 < chrisime> rxr: ahnung von ftp server? meiner will net
19:45 < owl> tsa: i just know that it's a wintv primio fm from hauppauge
19:46 < rxr> plfiorini: ever noticed dRock (Desktop ROCK Linux) ?
19:46 < tsa> owl: at least you're sure it's something for a computer, hm?
19:46 < rxr> chrisime: urgh - nee nur mit dem bsd-ftp  Linux port - wu-ftp oder so nehme ich nicht ...
19:47 < huebi> chrisime: vsftpd - simple to use
19:47 < owl> tsa: sorry. i'm still looking for the chipset... but in the manual... chipset... wuah... what is it *grml*
19:47 < tsa> owl: i see.
19:47 < plfiorini> rxr: yes but it's not what i want
19:47 < huebi> owl: Use a srewdriver for looking.
19:48 < tsa> owl: so it is a card for a computer. has it any chips on it?
19:48 < plfiorini> rxr: i don't hate your work, of course
19:48 < tsa> *g*
19:48 < plfiorini> rxr: you can take my patches, anyway - it's gpl :)
19:48 < plfiorini> oh food is done!
19:48 < owl> tsa: hm. what sort of chips ;P
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19:49 < tsa> owl: black ones..
19:49 < tsa> :P
19:49 < huebi> owl: black big chip on the board. BT-878 or so
19:49 < tsa> $chip =~ /BT\d+/
19:50 < owl> huebi: yeah. i know. but i don't know if it's the BT-878 or the BT-848
19:50 < tsa> *sigh*
19:50 < chrisime> huebi: iwas using pureftp
19:50 < tsa> women..
19:50 < chrisime> and now what openbsd offers
19:50 < owl> and you really can't see it. cuz the case is still a BAT...
19:50 < chrisime> both donät work
19:50 < huebi> owl: Just read the magic white signs on the chip
19:50 < owl> tsa: shut up ;P
19:51 < tsa> owl: perhaps you should better stick with making coffee for sysadmins ;)
19:51 < tsa> huebi would appreciate that, too, i guess..
19:51 < owl> huebi: i can't. cuz you can't see them. without removing all cards and so on...
19:51 < huebi> owl: Then remove only the tv card.
19:52 < huebi> owl: lspci?
19:52 < owl> it's also impossible... kernel's compiling
19:52 < owl> huebi: thx.
19:52 < owl> BT-878
19:52 < huebi> owl: why is it impossible? It's more easy than making coffee
19:53 < owl> huebi: *gml*
19:53 < owl> s,gml,grml
19:53 < tsa> can someone try to exploit this: http://www.jaenicke.org/cgi-bin/trace.cgi ? any feedback welcome..
19:53 < huebi> tsa: Readl adress of that server?
19:53 < huebi> -d
19:54 < tsa> 217.14.162.244, with lots of aliases.
19:54 < thalerim> tsa: written in?
19:54 < tsa> perl.
19:55 < huebi> tsa: city? street?
19:55 < tsa> huebi: hehe.
19:55 < chrisime> rxr: http://primates.helixcode.com/~miguel/gnome-history.html
19:55 < tsa> huebi: ravensberger str 10g, 33602 bielefeld.
19:55 < huebi> tsa: hehe...
19:59 < huebi> I have a remote exploit task force. Just call 110 and tell some stories about a pr0n server atravensberger str 10g, 33602 bielefeld. They often behave a little bit like idiots would do but if not (what almost never happens except in unrealistic movies) they are very efficient.
20:02 < tsa> *G*
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20:05 < huebi> Actually they would destroy the building and leave all the servers in there untouched and guard them after getting into the building like blood dogs.
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20:16 < thalerim> aaarghs ... rxr!!!
20:16 < thalerim> btw. hi snyke
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20:29 < holyolli> moin
20:29 < owl> hi holyolli
20:29 < holyolli> hi owl
20:30 < tsa> huhu holyolli
20:30 < h0h0> bleben?
20:30 < h0h0> blebin?
20:30 < holyolli> hi tsa
20:30 < h0h0> either of those mean anything to anyone?
20:31 < tsa> nope
20:32 < h0h0> I must be bad at spelling german
20:32 < h0h0> im pretty confident I am
20:32 < thalerim> h0h0: may you mean bleiben?
20:33 < h0h0> it probably could be
20:34 < praenti> hi
20:35 < praenti> huebi: chimera2 and courier should work now
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20:41 < tsa> damn evolution.
20:41 < tsa> compiles. but does nothing but segfault.
20:42 < owl> *g*
20:42 < owl> damn kernel. compiles. until error. :-/
20:43 < tsa> error?
20:43 < owl> yeah.
20:43 < owl> 2.4.19 vanilla... it seems to hate me
20:43 < tsa> what error?
20:43 < tsa> what system?
20:44 < owl> amd-k6, error... moment... i have to try compiling again...
20:49 < tsa> *waiting*
20:52 < tsa> *waiting*
20:53 < tsa> *waiting*
20:54 < owl> 1000 years later
20:57 < thalerim> huh what the -
20:57 < thalerim> Build-Pkg seems to own $ROCK-SRC/src to root automaticely, why?
20:58 < thalerim> s,own,chown,
20:58 < thalerim> rxr!!! i must talk to you about Build-Pkg anyway
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21:36 < Mike1> Hi all
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21:37 < owl> hi Mike1
21:37 < Mike1> hi owl how are you today?
21:37 < owl> Mike1: i don't know. don't wanna think about it. and you?
21:38 < Mike1> i great, i finally got a proper build on rock-1.5.18-Gnome2, runs very nice on the station i installed it
21:39 < owl> ;) i have problems compiling a new kernel, using 1.5.18... i just get asm-messages and errors... :-/
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21:41 < Mike1> owl: strange, anyways i am not using cvs official sources, i am using a tree updated with cvs but with other cool stuff and modifications made by me and [anders] the major of then a complete and funtional Gnome2
21:41 < Mike1> owl: no kernel compiling problems for me :)
21:41 < thalerim> Does anyone know where the `mount' sources are located?
21:41 < thalerim> or which rock-pkg contains mount
21:42 < thalerim> moin freak, everything fine?
21:42 < owl> Mike1: yeah. maybe my usual "luck"... :)
21:42 < thalerim> owl: huebi has said something about a broken kernel pkg in 1.5.18
21:42 < tsa> thalerim: util-linux
21:42 < thalerim> thx!
21:43 < thalerim> oh i forgot, i am on ignore ... hwat a pity
21:43 < owl> thalerim: hm. i'm using 2.4.19 kernel.
21:43 < owl> *g* not really. i just ignored your comments for a while. better: didn't read them ;P
21:44 < thalerim> owl: dunno, i used the iso and downloaded the original source from kernel.org
21:44 < Freak> thalerim: lost my 25day-uptime :)
21:44 < Freak> thalerim: what to do if nfs fails to start after a init 1, init 5
21:44 < owl> thalerim: i used the iso huebi gave me last weekend and using the source from him, too
21:44 < Freak> and booting stops going on..
21:45 < thalerim> owl: i would try the original sources
21:46 < owl> from kernel.org or what do you mean?
21:46 < thalerim> huebi: you should remove all backup files before you create an ISO
21:46 < thalerim> owl: yup
21:46 < owl> hm. oki. i will try it. thx.
21:46 < thalerim> assembler errors are pretty unlikely in the 2.4 tree
21:48 < tsa> thalerim: /usr/include/asm is pretty unlikely a directory, too..
21:48 < Mike1> plfiorini: awake?
21:48 < owl> thalerim: sw33t. and all are available there, i'm currently seeing, i guess :)
21:48 < thalerim> huh? it's a symbolic link, mostly to /usr/src/linux that links to the current sources
21:48 < plfiorini> Mike1: yes
21:49 < plfiorini> hi Mike1
21:49 < owl> thalerim: on my system, it wasn't a slink... it was a dir.
21:49 < Mike1> plfiorini: hi, i finally have a stable iso for rock-1.5.18-Gnome2
21:49 < Mike1> plfiorini: wanna get the iso?
21:49 < tsa> so owl's system is broken somewhere.
21:49 < owl> thalerim: but i changed it. result: still asm errors
21:49 < plfiorini> Mike1: i am not sure, i have mine that works fine here :)
21:50 < Mike1> tsa: of course its broken she is oftenly hitting you with her pink laptop ;)
21:50 < plfiorini> Mike1: with ogg-vorbis and other updated packages, like reiserfsprogs and gnupg
21:50 < plfiorini> Mike1: and elinks
21:50 < thalerim> owl: huh, sorry ... on my current system as well.. strange
21:50 < Mike1> plfiorini: ok then have fun :)
21:50 < owl> tsa: hm. so every 1.5.18 system should have this probmlem
21:50 < plfiorini> Mike1: :)
21:50 < owl> thalerim: yeah. really strange ;)
21:50 < Mike1> owl: not mine
21:50 < tsa> owl:
21:50 < tsa> $ cat /etc/ROCK-LINUX
21:50 < tsa> ROCK Linux 1.4.0 i686 (native, 2001/04/28)
21:50 < thalerim> i think my old system was somewhat broken then
21:51 < tsa> i don't know
21:51 < owl> tsa: ;)
21:51 < owl> Mike1: strange!
21:51 < tsa> (where 1.4.0 could be anything from 1.4.0 to 1.7.0-DEV ;)
21:51 < Mike1> tsa: hehe
21:52 < owl> tsa: *lol*
21:53 * owl 's trying to install rock 1.5.18 on another system and test the problems she had a little bit
21:53 < tsa> $ pkg-list |grep 1.4.0$|wc -l
21:53 < tsa>      10
21:54 < owl> is there scsi support available, if i 'm booting, using floppy disks (*g*)? ;)
21:54 < thalerim> owl: try a new kernel first
21:54 < thalerim> from kernel.org
21:54 < thalerim> owl: it's compiled int othe kernel
21:55 < thalerim> i hadn't any problems
21:55 < owl> thalerim: not just because the kernel... (and btw, downloading takes a while (ISDN)) also the /usr/include/asm problem... and the systems need an OS... so, why not testing :)
21:56 < thalerim> owl: what problem? /usr/include/asm is a directory here too - i think my old system was broken
21:56 < tsa> thalerim: no, it has to be a symlink
21:56 < thalerim> hm ... lol
21:57 < thalerim> okay, then i was right ... but why that on 1.5.18?
21:57 < tsa> [tsa@azathoth ~]$ file /usr/include/asm
21:57 < tsa> /usr/include/asm: symbolic link to ../src/linux/include/asm
21:57 < tsa> [tsa@azathoth ~]$ file /usr/src/linux/include/asm
21:57 < tsa> /usr/src/linux/include/asm: symbolic link to asm-i386
21:57 < owl> tsa: thx :)
21:58 * thalerim sets mode +hunting +huebi +to +blame
21:58 < owl> thalerim: hehe ;)
22:00 < thalerim> so ... getting util-linux sources now, to modify mount a bit
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22:02 < SoniA> Mike!
22:02 < thalerim> moin SoniA
22:03 < Mike1> hi SoniA
22:03 < tsa> hi SoniA
22:04 < Mike1> tsa: SoniA is from Colombia
22:04 < tsa> Mike1: yes, already seen that..
22:05 < Mike1> tsa: hehe de acuerdo
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23:53 * tsa going to bed
23:53 < tsa> cu all
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