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--- Log opened Sun Aug 18 00:00:42 2002 --- Day changed Sun Aug 18 2002 00:31 -!- esden [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:31 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: anoncvs for 1.5 now up: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5 00:31 -!- Topic set by esden [Mon Jul 15 16:08:37 2002] 00:31 (Users #rocklinux) 00:31 [ [anders] ] [ coldie] [ fronti ] [ Mike1 ] [ SMP ] [ tomik] 00:31 [ black_jade] [ d3mian] [ h0h0 ] [ owl ] [ term_emu] 00:31 [ bluefire ] [ esden ] [ hackbard] [ praenti] [ th ] 00:31 [ chrisime_ ] [ Freak ] [ huebi ] [ rxr ] [ thalerim] 00:31 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 21 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] 00:31 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002 00:31 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 16 secs 00:31 < th> i *hate* water! 00:32 < owl> th: do you have water in your house? 00:32 < Mike1> thalerim: hehe sorry forgot ur name is Tobias too 00:32 < th> owl: nope 00:32 < Mike1> th whats wrong? 00:32 < owl> th: why do you hate it? 00:32 < th> Mike1: water. tons of water in germany 00:33 < th> owl: this city here is in danger too 00:33 < thalerim> Mike1: in a lot regions of east germany is flood 00:33 < Mike1> th get over here.. there is sun, only sun in Costa Rica :) 00:33 < owl> th: yeah i saw it on tv... 00:33 < black_jade> hey, sorry just reading your webpage. 00:34 < Mike1> thalerim: th ok that really sucks 00:34 < Mike1> black_jade: ? 00:34 < black_jade> owl said hi a while ago. 00:34 < Mike1> ah ok 00:35 < owl> black_jade: *ggg* late, but hi ;PPP 00:38 < th> ~20000 people to be evacuated tomorrow 00:38 < owl> th: that's really shit. :-/// 00:39 < thalerim> th: get owl come to you to make coffee. water is there enough 8) 00:39 < th> leased line is down at home caused by the water 00:39 < owl> thalerim: NO!!!! damn! no coffee 00:39 < thalerim> owl: ;) just kidding 00:39 < owl> thalerim: i know ;P 00:39 < th> set up some ssh-tunnels to keep smtp running 00:40 * thalerim thinks owl has some real complexs against the word 'COFFEE' 00:40 < owl> thalerim: yeah. you're right 00:41 * owl is 1n54n3 and 3v1l. not just caused by 'coffee' 00:53 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD95021A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:57 < Mike1> see you all 00:57 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 00:57 < thalerim> gn8 00:57 < thalerim> urgs 00:57 < owl> cu Mike1 01:06 < fronti> re 01:07 < owl> re fronti 01:14 < bluefire> good night 01:14 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50816D94.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 01:23 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p5081372A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 01:30 -!- term_emu [~pm@p508199DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zz") 01:39 < fronti> n8 01:39 < huebi> cu fronti 01:40 < fronti> cu huebi 01:44 -!- fake [fake@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:44 < huebi> hi fake 01:52 < huebi> n8 01:52 < owl> gn8 huebi 02:02 < chrisime_> huebi: n8 02:03 -!- chrisime_ [~chrisime@p50803FB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("I like core dumps") 02:14 -!- black_jade [~cwinters@pcp079474pcs.arnysm01.nj.comcast.net] has quit ("[x]chat") 02:25 < h0h0> aalmoezenierskamers 02:25 < h0h0> er, thats dutch 02:28 < th> hmmm evacuation has started... 02:29 -!- uniplex [~zip@ip68-99-105-125.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #rocklinux 02:36 -!- uniplex [~zip@ip68-99-105-125.hr.hr.cox.net] has left #rocklinux () 03:33 -!- owl [~mail-spam@dialin-212-144-168-169.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:35 -!- owl [~mail-spam@dialin-212-144-168-169.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:35 < snyke> re owl 04:35 < owl> hi snyke 04:37 < snyke> HI SANDRA 04:38 < owl> what's wrong? why are you screeming? ;) 04:56 -!- cavaret [~cavaret@63.74.28.211] has joined #rocklinux 04:57 < cavaret> Recuerden mañana la conf online sobre software libre https://www.gigax.org 04:57 < cavaret> #gigax aki en este servidor =)))) 04:57 < owl> hi cavaret 05:06 -!- Netsplit bear.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: praenti 05:08 < cavaret> hi owl 05:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: praenti 05:33 -!- owl is now known as owl_afk 05:35 * owl_afk is away: I'm busy 05:35 * owl_afk is back (gone 00:00:06) 05:35 * owl_afk is away: I'm busy 05:35 * owl_afk is back (gone 00:00:03) 05:35 < owl_afk> *argh* 05:43 -!- Netsplit bear.openprojects.net <-> irc.openprojects.net quits: praenti 05:46 -!- cavaret is now known as Cava-Xphre-nAdie 05:55 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-232.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 05:58 -!- Cava-Xphre-nAdie is now known as cavare-nadied 06:27 -!- cavare-nadied is now known as nadied 06:29 < rxr> re 06:40 -!- snyke [~snyke@pD95021A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("°ShowDowN v12 PrO° since 1996: https://www.sci.fi/~showdown/") 06:47 -!- nadied [~cavaret@63.74.28.211] has quit () 07:15 < rxr> all people who like to use 1.7 should use my rxr tree! Some obvious bugs got already fixed ... 08:15 < huebi> moin 08:37 < fronti> moin 08:39 < huebi> fronti: moin 08:39 < fronti> tach huebi 10:32 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD952271E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:33 < bluefire> Hi 10:40 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D09B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:40 < thalerim> moin all 10:45 < huebi> moin bluefire 10:45 < huebi> moin thalerim 10:45 < bluefire> Moin huebi 10:45 < bluefire> Moin thalerim 10:45 < huebi> thalerim: ** Finished (08/18/02 09:20:46 - 08/18/02 09:50:04) ** 10:45 < bluefire> ;) 10:46 < huebi> thalerim: I test the new iso in an hour or so... 10:46 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-2-232.tin.it] has quit ("ci vediamo tra un pochin o") 10:52 -!- term_emu [~pm@p50819C76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:05 < thalerim> re (was eating) 11:05 < thalerim> fine @ huebi 11:08 < thalerim> huebi: please create some partitions (preferable usr/, /opt, /var and/or /home) mount them into trg/ and look if they all (except /trg/home/ if it's a partition) are displayed 11:08 < thalerim> when you type 'df' at the prompt, or if you choose "Summary Information" in the menu 11:08 * huebi burning iso 11:26 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@dhcp-228.lunds.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 11:26 < thalerim> moin LocalHero 11:26 < LocalHero> thalerim, hi, whats up? 11:27 < LocalHero> SMP, my site iso.rocklinux.de is switching ip soon. Right now i have 2 ips :).. So we might switch the dns to 194.47.210.41 11:29 < thalerim> LocalHero: i am writing on mount at the mount, i'm pissed off that it doesn't try ext2 if ext3 isn't supported by the kernel. Now i implement it myself. 11:29 < thalerim> s,mount,moment,2 11:30 < LocalHero> thalerim, ahh, oki, but cant you specify it with -t ext2 and get it to work? you mean without the -t option :) 11:31 < thalerim> LocalHero: i wrote in my fstab to use ext3, at startup with a rescue kernel without ext3 support, it isn 11:32 < thalerim> 't possible to get to the login 11:32 < thalerim> i know i could rewrite the mount progress to do it there, but i think it's a nice feature i should implement in mount 11:33 < thalerim> ^- i mean the mount progress in the init scripts 11:33 < LocalHero> thalerim, ahh, ok, now i see your problem :). Well if you do like this. Put auto instead of ext3 in that field and i think it would work nicely 11:35 < thalerim> LocalHero: mom, look me up in the sources 11:35 < thalerim> arghs ... where are my thoughts today? can't write 11:35 < thalerim> LocalHero: mom, let me look up in the sources 11:37 < thalerim> LocalHero: mh, i would have to test it. in the sources it checks for ext2 first, then four the jorunal entry in the superblock. Since this entry is "burned" into the superblock, it must *always* assume ext3, not querying what's supported. 11:41 < LocalHero> thalerim, hmm, oki 11:41 < thalerim> but i am rebooting with 'auto' now 11:41 < thalerim> a test it's worth anyway :-) 11:43 < thalerim> LocalHero: as i said it doesn't work ... hey but thanks for pointing me to this. really you made me get an idea where i could implement my thingie :-) 11:45 < huebi> thalerim: there are line breaks in 'package selektion' first screen 11:46 < thalerim> huebi: several? I only assumed the last one 11:47 -!- praenti [mo1032@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 11:47 < huebi> sorry it's in summary 11:47 < thalerim> oh 11:47 < thalerim> mh. mom 11:47 < thalerim> i will boot without framebuffer in normal console resolution 11:47 < thalerim> huebi: what line? 11:48 < LocalHero> thalerim, no problem :) 11:48 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@62.211.165.153] has joined #rocklinux 11:48 < huebi> line 3 11:48 < plfiorini> re 11:48 < thalerim> huebi: erm ... that must be a partition 11:48 < huebi> /trg .... 11:49 < huebi> thalerim: yes, and the last % sign is in the next line 11:50 < thalerim> okay. then esden (or whoever has written it) had to compute wrong 11:50 < thalerim> but, sec ... i will look now 11:51 < thalerim> huebi: does it takes long until it's displayed? 11:51 < huebi> On the first screen a 'Press <Enter> to continue' is missing 11:51 < thalerim> i use an 24x cdrom drive and a 200mhz and it's *slow* 11:51 < thalerim> huebi: ow, i see 11:51 < thalerim> will be fixed 11:52 < thalerim> okay huebi 11:52 < huebi> thalerim: only about 5 seconds IIRC. Not as slow that it is anoying 11:52 < thalerim> i can reprocude the problem, thanks 11:52 < huebi> +n 11:53 < thalerim> huebi: it's untypically for C programs ... but i found no way to icnrease the speed since the cksums file _on cdrom_ are queried 11:54 < huebi> thalerim: I think the longest time was needed to spin up the cdrom 11:54 < LocalHero> Got to go, cya 11:54 < huebi> cu LocalHero 11:54 < thalerim> bye 11:54 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@dhcp-228.lunds.lu.se] has quit () 11:55 < thalerim> i feel a bit annoyed ... but i must test it on this PC i am currently chatting at 11:56 < thalerim> or bug #1 is fixed 11:56 < huebi> thalerim: Can you add <Select> <Exit> <Help> to the bottom of the Pkg Selection? 11:57 < huebi> like in 'make menuconfig'? 11:58 < thalerim> mh ... i dunno how ... i would have to look up in the source of dialog how it's done there. I will take a look after finishing work on mount 11:59 < thalerim> huebi: but what about the esthetics? 11:59 < thalerim> where do you want the buttons? 12:00 < thalerim> imho, it wouldn't fit at all 12:20 < thalerim> huebi: okay. formatting bug fixed as well. But it displayed _all_ partition it should display? 12:23 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly^mount 12:34 < thaly^mount> today comes Formel1 12:40 -!- plfiorini is now known as pleat 12:50 -!- pleat is now known as plfiorini 13:02 -!- thaly^mount is now known as thalerim 13:07 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@62.211.165.153] has quit (":wq") 13:17 -!- owl_afk is now known as owl 13:17 < owl> good morning 13:25 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly^afk 14:42 -!- thaly^afk is now known as thalerim 14:42 < thalerim> re 14:43 < owl> hi thalerim 14:45 < thalerim> for everyone who's interested, my mount problem could be solved without modifying the code: You can use several filesystems in the fstab devided by a comma. So now i use "... ext3,ext2 ... 0 1" 14:46 < thalerim> at start mount will try if the device can be mounted with ext3 and if it fails, it'll try ext2 14:56 -!- snyke [~snyke@p3E9ECFDF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:57 < thalerim> moin snyke 15:11 < owl> thalerim: the kernel( i downloaded from ftp.kernel.org) is also not working... 15:11 < owl> or better: is not compiling without errors 15:16 < thalerim> tobrit@freebits send the whole output of make bzImage 15:16 < thalerim> tobrit@freebits.de 15:17 < owl> it's a computer without ethernet... 15:17 < thalerim> disk? 15:18 < owl> hm? 15:18 < thalerim> ist ein diskettenlaufwerk drin? 15:18 < owl> ja... 15:18 < thalerim> dann machs doch darüber 15:18 < owl> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... 15:19 < thalerim> ich weiß nicht ob ich helfen kann, wenn nicht wirst du wohl die lkml anscheiben müssen/wollen/dürfen 15:19 < owl> hmm... 16:02 < tomik> hi all 16:04 < thalerim> re tomik 16:35 < praenti> hi 16:35 < praenti> uff. this two ext-pkgs are very big... 16:35 < praenti> (sdl and xine) 16:39 < huebi> re 16:39 < huebi> thalerim: did you fix the line break? 16:39 < huebi> moin praenti 16:39 < huebi> moin owl 16:41 < thalerim> huebi: yes, of course. but i didn't uplaod new diffs, do you want them? 16:41 < huebi> thalerim: yes, 16:41 < thalerim> okay, mom 16:42 < huebi> h0h0: can you do something that the feeling is like in make menuconfig? 16:42 < huebi> thalerim, even 16:42 < thalerim> ah yeah right, i wanted to look ... ehm, remind me later again please, i'll take a shower in some minutes 16:45 < thalerim> ok, it's up 16:53 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.cabal1.net] has quit ("leaving") 16:53 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly^shower 16:53 < thaly^shower> brb 16:57 -!- SMP [stefanp@world.cabal1.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:58 < huebi> moin SMP 16:58 < SMP> seufz 16:59 < SMP> Hallo huebi 16:59 < huebi> SMP: how are you? 16:59 < SMP> I need a shower. but fine otherwise ;) 17:06 < owl> hi huebi 17:06 < owl> hi all 17:07 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a211.tin.it] has joined #rocklinux 17:08 < huebi> hi owl 17:09 < huebi> bbl 17:34 -!- thaly^shower is now known as thalerim 17:55 < thalerim> huebi: please notify me when you return 18:01 < praenti> does anyone know what i must do if i need adding a directory to the include directive in a compile? 18:01 < owl> hi praenti 18:01 < thalerim> praenti: -I/an/example 18:02 < thalerim> praenti: if i got you rightly 18:02 < praenti> thalerim: das mach ich wenn ich gcc aufrufe aber nicht bei configure/make 18:02 < praenti> das war doch was mit CCFLAGS 18:04 < thalerim> praenti: ah 18:04 < thalerim> praenti: CFLAGS 18:04 < thalerim> you can verify if it's "supported" by ./configure --help 18:05 < thalerim> usually used environment variables are listed tehre 18:05 < thalerim> there 18:09 < praenti> thalerim: no. the includedir i need is not supported. i have it done like that: CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -I..." ./configure ... 18:09 < praenti> and this lokks good 18:10 < praenti> s/lokks/looks 18:11 < thalerim> mh? it's exactely what i said 18:12 < thalerim> but never mind, the central point is it works :-) 18:15 < praenti> thalerim: ok. now i got you correct. you mean CFLAGS are supported by configure and you can read that if they are supported? 18:16 < praenti> argh. ich kann heut nimmer gradaus denken# 18:16 < thalerim> *g* 18:16 < praenti> ich machs jetzt mal auf deutsch 18:17 < praenti> also ich hab dich richtig verstanden, wenn CFLAGS geht dann stehts in ./configure --help drin 18:17 < thalerim> das ist guter programmierstil, autoconf macht das autoamtisch 18:18 < praenti> ich hab ein wo's nicht da steht ;-) 18:18 < praenti> aber funzt trotzdem 18:18 < praenti> xine-lib 18:35 * owl is away: I'm busy 18:36 < owl> *grml* damn x-chat 18:36 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E39ADF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb") 18:36 < owl> sorry 18:36 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E39ADF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:50 * praenti away 18:55 -!- Ge0rG [~georg@pD901447C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:58 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD952271E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 19:28 -!- plfiorini is now known as plfiorini|a 19:51 -!- Ge0rG is now known as ge0rg 19:53 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D09B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 19:58 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B670.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:58 < tsa> tag 20:05 < rxr> hi tsa 20:06 < tsa> hi rxr 20:22 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D09B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:22 < tsa> hi thalerim 20:22 < thalerim> re 20:22 < thalerim> ah, hi tsa ... nice to meet you 20:22 < thalerim> are you familiar to perl? 20:26 < tsa> hm...not really. 20:27 < thalerim> anyone else? 20:27 < thalerim> i have a nice idea regarding rock 20:28 < tsa> which is? 20:28 < thalerim> ok, let me it describe: 20:28 < tsa> <- curious 20:33 < thalerim> A Perl script that fetchs the up to date version of each package that is in ROCK every week from the 3 biggest and most recent linux app pages (freshmeat etc. - theese 3 must be choosen anyway). Furthermore this script creates a table with 4 cols: #1 current version of the Package in ROCK, #2 most recent version of app site 1, #3 most recent ... of app site 2, #4 most recent ... of app site 3. This generated table is sent to the list in orde 20:33 < thalerim> to update packages. Maybe this script could even sort the list in "Packages to be updated" and "... not to be updated". 20:34 < thalerim> Sorry it's takes a while, i had to do something 20:35 < tsa> have a look at https://www.distrowatch.com/rock.php 20:35 < thalerim> i know it 20:35 < tsa> ah 20:36 < thalerim> but a) it doesn't include all packages, b) nobody really cares about (that's why the script should be send a mil to the list) 20:38 < tsa> hm... 20:38 < tsa> i'm not sure if all people on the list would like that. 20:38 < thalerim> why not? 20:38 < tsa> anyway, you could send a mail to the distrowatch people and ask them for their script. 20:39 < thalerim> it's php ... not as good as perl would be in this case, imo 20:39 < tsa> we have a lot of packages now, so if this would be done, it should be on an extra list. 20:40 < thalerim> however these are details 20:41 < thalerim> do know anyone being able to realize this? 20:41 < thalerim> th? 20:41 < thalerim> dunno ... 20:50 -!- plfiorini|a is now known as plfiorini 20:56 < tsa> hm...no idea. 20:58 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-173-225.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:59 < tsa> re rxr_ 21:00 < thalerim> hum 21:06 -!- rxr [~rene@212.202.200.119] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:12 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@217.14.165.35] has joined #rocklinux 21:12 < holyolli> moin 21:14 < praenti> re 21:14 < tsa> huhu holyolli 21:15 < holyolli> tach tsa 21:16 < praenti> weiß jemand wie ich raw devices bekomme? 21:16 < holyolli> moin praenti 21:16 < praenti> im /dev sind nämlich keine da 21:17 < thalerim> mh? 21:17 < praenti> zum einen wo die kernel option ist (kann ja sein dass ich das gar nicht drin hab) und zum anderen der eintrag in der devfs.conf 21:18 < thalerim> welche raw devices? 21:18 < thalerim> ach im kernel, joh da weiner *überleg* 21:18 < thalerim> ich glaub in "Generic" 21:22 < praenti> thalerim: /dev/raw/raw1 zum beispiel 21:22 < praenti> sind im normalfall character devices. aber da ist keine option drin 21:22 < thalerim> ich weiß nur dass es eine kernel option dafür gibt, wie das mit devfs funktioniert weiß ich nicht ... vielleicht mit MKOLDCOMPAR 21:23 < thalerim> MKOLDCOMPAT 21:24 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@dhcp-228.lunds.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 21:25 < LocalHero> Hi all :) 21:25 < LocalHero> SMP, thanx for changing the dns entry :) 21:25 < holyolli> hej LocalHero ;-) 21:25 < LocalHero> holyolli, whats up? 21:25 < holyolli> hm. nothing special...compiling rock...havin a bud... 21:25 < holyolli> ;-) 21:26 < LocalHero> holyolli, nice :). Life is wounderfull? ;) 21:26 < huebi> re 21:26 < huebi> thalerim: I'm back 21:26 < holyolli> LocalHero: jepp ;-) 21:27 < holyolli> hi huebi :) 21:27 < praenti> thalerim: also ich hab jetzt mal die zeile REGISTER raw MKOLDCOMPAT drin. seh aber immer noch keine 21:27 < thalerim> huebi: read some lines above, what do you think about? 21:29 < thalerim> praenti: mach vielleicht mal .* ... ich weiß's nit, sorry 21:30 < huebi> thalerim: ./scripts/Internal checkver 21:31 < thalerim> huebi: what does it? 21:32 < huebi> checking the versions of the packages 21:33 < praenti> argh. ich bekomm immer noch keine raw devices. und rtfm is nich. die drechscheiße is mal wieder nirgends dokumentiert *sauerbin* 21:33 < thalerim> mh ... lol ... i assumed it *grinsel* ;-) 21:35 < praenti> habs. kruzamfix. der devfsd is aber selten dämlich 21:35 < huebi> praenti: wie geht das? 21:37 < praenti> huebi: manuell erstellt 21:37 < praenti> zuerst mknod /dev/rawctl c 162 0 21:37 < thalerim> huebi: how the hell does it work?! 21:37 < praenti> dann mknod /dev/raw/raw1 c 162 1 21:38 < huebi> thalerim: I don't know. Ask clifford for comments 21:38 < praenti> danach raw /dev/raw/raw1 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 21:38 * praenti must boot his workstation 21:44 < thalerim> huebi: it would be possible ... and creating the buttons even easy ... but i don't think they will fit well. 21:44 < thalerim> why do you wish them? 21:48 -!- nAdIeD [~nando@cii.udea.edu.co] has joined #rocklinux 21:48 < nAdIeD> Kedan invitados a la conf ke se hara en estos momentos en #gigax , acerca de software libre.. about free soft 21:49 < thalerim> moin nAdIeD :-D 21:49 < tsa> hola nAdIeD 21:51 < thalerim> tsa: what did he say? i just understand he invites us to #gigax about any topic of fre software ... 21:52 < tsa> thalerim: that's it. an invitation to a conference about free software. 21:52 < tsa> taking place on #gigax 21:52 < thalerim> you? 21:53 * tsa taking a look 21:53 < thalerim> okay tell then, i guess it's in spanish 21:54 < thalerim> huebi: this fscking programm starts *a lot* of processes 21:54 < thalerim> 1500 in a few minutes 21:55 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E39ADF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:55 -!- nAdIeD [~nando@cii.udea.edu.co] has left #rocklinux ("ok.. see you") 21:56 < LocalHero> must go now, cya all 21:56 < tsa> cu LocalHero 21:57 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E392CE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:01 < th> re 22:01 < th> *stoehn* 22:06 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@dhcp-228.lunds.lu.se] has quit () 22:08 < th> kann mal wer den wasserhahn abdrehen? 22:09 < thalerim> *grinsel* wo wohnst du denn? 22:09 < tsa> hm.. 22:09 * owl is back (gone 03:33:11) 22:09 < owl> re 22:09 < thalerim> re owl 22:09 < owl> hi tsa 22:09 * th wohnt in magdeburg 22:09 < thalerim> *gg* da geht's doch noch 22:09 < thalerim> hat jemand heute die Berichte von Torgau gesejem? 22:09 < thalerim> ein *sehr* guter Freund wohnt da 22:09 * tsa spendet schwimmfluegel 22:09 < thalerim> *grinsel* und ich kaffee 22:09 * holyolli nen tauchsieder 22:10 < th> thalerim: noch. ich war seit 1500 daemme bauen 22:10 < thalerim> irgendwie muss man ja das wasser aufbrauchen 22:10 < th> *keuch* 22:10 < tsa> holyolli: gute idee...einfach das wasser verkochen.. 22:10 < thalerim> th: *grinsel* man sieht's dir an, hast endlich mal Farbe bekommen ... hgihi :o) 22:10 < holyolli> tsa: genau! aber keiner will meine genialen einfälle haben.... 22:11 < tsa> holyolli: versuch mal nen paar tauchsieder mehr.. 22:11 < holyolli> tsa: es war genauso wie mit meiner idee, instant-wasser herzustellen... ;-) 22:11 < tsa> holyolli: hm? 22:12 < holyolli> tsa: na instant wasser halt...wasser in trockenform.... ;-) 22:12 < tsa> holyolli: achso.. 22:12 < th> nur wasser zugeben und man hat wasser, wie? 22:12 < holyolli> th: genau 22:12 * tsa friert das immer ein und hebt es auf, kochendes wasser kann man immer gut gebrauchen.. 22:12 < thalerim> hehe!!! 22:13 < thalerim> extern volatile __freeze(char *s location); 22:14 < thalerim> wer schreibt die bibliothek? *bg* 22:14 < holyolli> hehe 22:14 < tsa> libwater ? 22:15 < holyolli> libaggregatzustand 22:16 < huebi> thalerim: I want to have a style similar to 'menuconfig'. This is known by many people and the install menu is almost not self explaining 22:16 < thalerim> *g* und für owl entwerfen wir ein void make_coffee_easiely_even_for_women(); 22:16 < holyolli> hehe 22:16 < tsa> lol. 22:16 < owl> :PPPPPPPP 22:17 < owl> *aetsch* *zungerausstreck* 22:17 < tsa> owl: coffee for everybody, please. 22:17 < owl> tsa: with poison.... 22:17 < tsa> (without water for th, i guess) 22:17 < thalerim> void make_coffee_easiely_even_for_women(void); /* <- man richte seine aufmerksamkeit auf das void *g* */ 22:17 < owl> th: just the coffein containing stuff? 22:17 < owl> without water? ;) 22:18 < tsa> owl: i guess th already has enough water.. 22:19 < owl> tsa: yeah. you're right, i guess. 22:19 < thalerim> huebi: Tell it clifford, he will design a new menu for 1.7 based on dialog. Why should I create it by my own, if clifford writes a new one anyway.. you see? 22:19 < huebi> This weekend was the 750th aniversary of 'Burg Frankenstein' 22:20 < huebi> thalerim: Just to get 1.6 out 22:20 < huebi> released 22:22 < thalerim> huebi: why couldn't you feel satisfied with the current controlling? I respect you and I am not against this, but I don't think we should almost completely rewrite it. But ... you could phone esden, he has some free time and said he will look at my modifies ... 22:23 < huebi> thalerim: Did you upload the new patch for the line breaks? 22:23 < thalerim> yes, i said it already 22:23 < huebi> thalerim: It's ok like it is. But it could be improved. 22:24 < huebi> *wegeting* 22:24 < thalerim> huebi: of course! But since clifford planned a complete new one (even not written in the same language, so we couldn't copy parts out of) 22:25 < thalerim> ... 22:32 -!- term_emu [~pm@p50819C76.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zz") 22:32 * plfiorini is away: i need a cold beer 22:35 < praenti> re 22:36 < huebi> openssh is broken. the setup script does not work anymore 22:36 < tsa> hm.. 22:37 < tsa> let's guess... --prefix=/etc/ssh, but the setup script still uses /etc ? 22:37 < huebi> tsa: ACK 22:37 < huebi> tsa: fixed. I test it now. 22:45 < h0h0> whats a leet sounding german word? 22:46 < holyolli> hoho: krass ;-) 22:46 < h0h0> needs to be long 22:46 -!- plfiorini [~plfiorini@r-bo043-5a211.tin.it] has quit (":q!") 22:46 < h0h0> mabey entschidungsproblem? 22:47 < thalerim> entsch-ei-dungsproblem :) 22:47 < holyolli> hehe 22:48 < h0h0> ok, I say Im doing pretty good to only miss one letter there 22:48 < thalerim> h0h0: since the new spelling there are some weird words like Schifffahrt 22:48 < thalerim> the three 'f's are righ 22:48 < thalerim> +t 22:48 < thalerim> or Betttuch 22:48 < thalerim> ... 22:49 < h0h0> new spelling? 22:49 < holyolli> h0h0: jepp... "neue deutsche rechtschreibung" some changes in the language 22:49 < h0h0> since when? 22:49 < holyolli> one/wto year(s)? 22:49 < thalerim> 2000 or so 22:50 < h0h0> wow 22:51 < h0h0> what does schifffahrt mean? 22:51 < huebi> Sauerstoffflasche <-old spelling 22:51 < thalerim> h0h0: mainly it was to write words as they're spoken 22:51 < thalerim> h0h0: navigation 22:51 -!- owl [~mail-spam@dialin-212-144-168-169.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 22:51 < h0h0> haha, I like the old spelling better 22:51 < thalerim> shipping 22:51 < thalerim> ... 22:52 < thalerim> huebi: du Toiletten-Tiefsee-Taucher ;-P 22:52 < huebi> Sauerstoffflasche = bottle of oxigen 22:53 < h0h0> thalerim: the new spelling or the old spelling was used for that? 22:53 < thalerim> h0h0: rofl ... it's kind of sentence in germany 22:54 < thalerim> h0h0: it's a nice meant insult 22:54 * h0h0 is confused 22:55 < h0h0> what is an insult? and what is 'to write words as their spoken, navigation, shipping'? 22:55 < thalerim> h0h0: Toiletten = toilet, Tiefsee = deep-sea, Taucher = diver ... in english it would be "dude" or something like ... 22:55 < thalerim> h0h0: insult is english ... 22:55 < thalerim> Schifffahrt means navigation/shipping 22:55 < h0h0> "Sauerstoffflasche = bottle of oxigen" 22:55 -!- owl [~mail-spam@dialin-212-144-168-169.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:55 < owl> re 22:55 < h0h0> ? 22:56 < thalerim> and the spelling reform was introduced, actually, to make words be spelled as they are spoken 22:56 < thalerim> h0h0: A Sauerstoffflasche is a bottle of oxigen 22:57 < h0h0> oh, so schifffahrt is *not* the new spelling of Sauerstoffflasche, ok. 22:57 < owl> thalerim: who do you wanna kill? 'Sauerstoffflasche'? omg!!! 22:57 < thalerim> h0h0: hehe ;) 22:58 < thalerim> owl: is memtest running? 22:58 < huebi> thalerim: !st call of summary needs about 35 seconds 22:58 < owl> thalerim: yeah. since about 04:30 hours... 22:58 < thalerim> huebi: ??? what are you talking about? 22:58 < owl> thalerim: still 0 errors 22:58 < huebi> thalerim: menu 22:59 < thalerim> thalerim: what is !sf? 22:59 < thalerim> s,thalerim,huebi, 22:59 < huebi> 1st 22:59 < thalerim> yes as i said really slow, but you gave the background of why 23:00 < rxr_> tsa: more fixed on my 1.7 tree ... 23:00 < tsa> ack 23:01 < rxr_> I'll now remove my half chaotic build and restart from scratch. Cu tomorrow ;-) 23:01 < thalerim> ok guyes (and owl) ... i will go sleepin now ... tomorrow school starts again *mhpf* 23:01 < huebi> rxr_: When do you fix the linux* pkgs? 23:01 < thalerim> see you 23:01 < owl> thalerim: gn8. have fun... ;PPP cu 23:02 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D09B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("blubb @ owl") 23:02 < rxr_> huebi: after my holiday and some important other work I fixed the most important 1.7 issues the last two days ... Maybe I have the time tomorrow ... 23:03 < rxr_> tsa: "./scripts/Update-System" is cool! It is running on my laptop ;-) But many packages needs some work to not destroy the existing configs ... 23:03 -!- rxr_ is now known as rxr 23:03 < tsa> rxr: ack. i know.. 23:03 < huebi> rxr_: Can you be a little bit more pecise. I just want to know when it is definitly finished. Not when it might/should...bla 23:03 < tsa> hm...strange discussion on minimal install on the list 23:04 < praenti> huebi: btw. sdl and xine are now fixed. so we have a cool extension reanimated ;-) 23:05 < tsa> my minimal rock install was 23mb, but i don't rememer the pkg list.. 23:05 < huebi> praenti: thank you. 23:05 < rxr> huebi: 1.5 is NOT my tree. I already contributed more I had time. I have dRock, 1.7 and (most important GSMP). I wanted to do this before my holiday - but missed the time ... Now I finished all the important needs here in Berlin. I can do it tomorrow if this is ok. 23:05 < praenti> tsa: believe me it was the same package list i worte in the mail ;-) 23:05 < praenti> s/worte/wrote 23:05 < huebi> tsa: glibc has 57Mb. How do you get this smaller? 23:06 < tsa> praenti: no, it was more than that. bash, nmap, .. 23:06 < tsa> huebi: manual deletion of unneeded crap .. 23:06 < praenti> tsa: ok how do you get it smaller? 23:06 < praenti> but 23mb is very small 23:06 < tsa> praenti: remove man-pages, docs, etc. 23:07 < praenti> we need a new target ;-) 23:07 < tsa> no compiler on the system. no need for .h files. 23:07 < praenti> rock 1.7 without any docs ;-) 23:07 < tsa> hehe 23:07 < tsa> most locale stuff deleted, too 23:08 < praenti> ok. i try it if i have sometime too much time 23:09 < praenti> but now i'm going to bed. gn8 23:09 < tsa> i had iptables, telnet, nmap 23:09 < tsa> ok 23:09 < tsa> cu praenti 23:09 < rxr> huebi: why was the kernel-config not done in Vienna ? 23:10 < huebi> rxr: No time for that. And you said you fix it. 23:11 -!- owl [~mail-spam@dialin-212-144-168-169.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:11 < h0h0> Geisterwelt? 23:12 < rxr> huebi: I only offered to fix it in 1.5 because you complained that it is unreadable all the time ... 23:12 < rxr> I do it tomorrow. 23:12 < huebi> rxr: Gret. Thank you. 23:12 < huebi> +a 23:12 < rxr> btw. solaris has also still not arrived ... ;-) 23:13 < huebi> rxr: give me your address again, please 23:13 * tsa going to bed. 23:13 < holyolli> n8 tsa 23:13 < rxr> n8 tsa 23:13 < huebi> cu tsa 23:13 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B670.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 23:14 < huebi> rxr: If you put a bigger disk in your U5 just start the solaris installation to get a working disklabel. 23:15 < huebi> rxr: Do you have a list of all pkgs needed for gnome 1.4? 23:16 < huebi> rxr: I want to separate it from X11 23:16 < rxr> hm. For now the 10 Gig IBM is in the box. And this will stay in the box the next weeks - but thanks. 23:16 < th> qmail experts in here? 23:16 < rxr> huebi: no sorry. You can obtain a gnome2 list by grepping for the gnome category in 21.7 ... 23:16 < th> SMP: ? 23:16 < rxr> but there is no Gnome 1.4 in it anymore ... 23:16 < huebi> rxr: Only interesting for disks bigger than 40GB or so. linux fdisk fails 23:16 -!- owl [~mail-spam@dialin-212-144-168-169.arcor-ip.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:16 < owl> re 23:17 < rxr> ok good night * 23:17 < holyolli> <-- also to bed 23:17 < holyolli> n8 23:17 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@217.14.165.35] has quit ("X-Chat: its what's for lunch") 23:36 < SMP> th: yes 23:36 < th> SMP: ahh cool 23:36 < th> SMP: already got info from #qmail i wanted to know how to do that what is done when sending SIGALRM to qmail-send 23:37 < huebi> rxr: Is openSSH is now fixed for the new configuration location under /etc/ssh 23:37 < SMP> ok 23:37 < huebi> openSSH is now fixed for the new configuration location under /etc/ssh 23:38 < th> SMP: some lines are down due to flood in MD. 23:38 < th> SMP: so i established ssh-tunnel to keep smtp going 23:46 -!- ge0rg is now known as Ge0rG 23:55 -!- owl [~mail-spam@dialin-212-144-168-169.arcor-ip.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:57 < fake> elo. 23:59 < huebi> huhu fake --- Log closed Mon Aug 19 00:00:00 2002