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00:31 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: anoncvs for 1.5 now up: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5
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00:31 (Users #rocklinux)
00:31 [ [anders]  ] [ coldie] [ fronti  ] [ Mike1  ] [ SMP     ] [ tomik] 
00:31 [ black_jade] [ d3mian] [ h0h0    ] [ owl    ] [ term_emu] 
00:31 [ bluefire  ] [ esden ] [ hackbard] [ praenti] [ th      ] 
00:31 [ chrisime_ ] [ Freak ] [ huebi   ] [ rxr    ] [ thalerim] 
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00:31 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002
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00:31 < th> i *hate* water!
00:32 < owl> th: do you have water in your house?
00:32 < Mike1> thalerim: hehe sorry forgot ur name is Tobias too
00:32 < th> owl: nope
00:32 < Mike1> th whats wrong?
00:32 < owl> th: why do you hate it?
00:32 < th> Mike1: water. tons of water in germany
00:33 < th> owl: this city here is in danger too
00:33 < thalerim> Mike1: in a lot regions of east germany is flood
00:33 < Mike1> th get over here.. there is sun, only sun in Costa Rica :)
00:33 < owl> th: yeah i saw it on tv...
00:33 < black_jade> hey, sorry just reading your webpage.
00:34 < Mike1> thalerim: th ok that really sucks
00:34 < Mike1> black_jade: ?
00:34 < black_jade> owl said hi a while ago.
00:34 < Mike1> ah ok
00:35 < owl> black_jade: *ggg* late, but hi ;PPP
00:38 < th> ~20000 people to be evacuated tomorrow
00:38 < owl> th: that's really shit. :-///
00:39 < thalerim> th: get owl come to you to make coffee. water is there enough 8)
00:39 < th> leased line is down at home caused by the water
00:39 < owl> thalerim: NO!!!! damn! no coffee
00:39 < thalerim> owl: ;) just kidding
00:39 < owl> thalerim: i know ;P
00:39 < th> set up some ssh-tunnels to keep smtp running
00:40 * thalerim thinks owl has some real complexs against the word 'COFFEE'
00:40 < owl> thalerim: yeah. you're right
00:41 * owl is 1n54n3 and 3v1l. not just caused by 'coffee'
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00:57 < Mike1> see you all
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00:57 < thalerim> gn8
00:57 < thalerim> urgs
00:57 < owl> cu Mike1
01:06 < fronti> re
01:07 < owl> re fronti
01:14 < bluefire> good night
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01:39 < fronti> n8
01:39 < huebi> cu fronti
01:40 < fronti> cu huebi
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01:44 < huebi> hi fake
01:52 < huebi> n8
01:52 < owl> gn8 huebi
02:02 < chrisime_> huebi: n8
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02:25 < h0h0> aalmoezenierskamers
02:25 < h0h0> er, thats dutch
02:28 < th> hmmm evacuation has started...
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04:35 < snyke> re owl
04:35 < owl> hi snyke
04:37 < snyke> HI SANDRA
04:38 < owl> what's wrong? why are you screeming? ;)
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04:57 < cavaret> Recuerden mañana la conf online sobre software libre http://www.gigax.org
04:57 < cavaret> #gigax aki en este servidor =))))
04:57 < owl> hi cavaret
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05:08 < cavaret> hi owl
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05:35 < owl_afk> *argh*
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06:29 < rxr> re
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07:15 < rxr> all people who like to use 1.7 should use my rxr tree! Some obvious bugs got already fixed ...
08:15 < huebi> moin
08:37 < fronti> moin
08:39 < huebi> fronti: moin
08:39 < fronti> tach huebi
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10:33 < bluefire> Hi
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10:40 < thalerim> moin all
10:45 < huebi> moin bluefire
10:45 < huebi> moin thalerim
10:45 < bluefire> Moin huebi
10:45 < bluefire> Moin thalerim
10:45 < huebi> thalerim:  ** Finished (08/18/02 09:20:46 - 08/18/02 09:50:04) **
10:45 < bluefire> ;)
10:46 < huebi> thalerim: I test the new iso in an hour or so...
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11:05 < thalerim> re (was eating)
11:05 < thalerim> fine @ huebi
11:08 < thalerim> huebi: please create some partitions (preferable usr/, /opt, /var and/or /home) mount them into trg/ and look if they all (except /trg/home/ if it's a partition) are displayed
11:08 < thalerim> when you type 'df' at the prompt, or if you choose "Summary Information" in the menu
11:08 * huebi burning iso
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11:26 < thalerim> moin LocalHero
11:26 < LocalHero> thalerim, hi, whats up?
11:27 < LocalHero> SMP, my site iso.rocklinux.de is switching ip soon. Right now i have 2 ips :).. So we might switch the dns to 194.47.210.41
11:29 < thalerim> LocalHero: i am writing on mount at the mount, i'm pissed off that it doesn't try ext2 if ext3 isn't supported by the kernel. Now i implement it myself.
11:29 < thalerim> s,mount,moment,2
11:30 < LocalHero> thalerim, ahh, oki, but cant you specify it with -t ext2 and get it to work? you mean without the -t option :)
11:31 < thalerim> LocalHero: i wrote in my fstab to use ext3, at startup with a rescue kernel without ext3 support, it isn
11:32 < thalerim> 't possible to get to the login
11:32 < thalerim> i know i could rewrite the mount progress to do it there, but i think it's a nice feature i should implement in mount
11:33 < thalerim> ^- i mean the mount progress in the init scripts
11:33 < LocalHero> thalerim, ahh, ok, now i see your problem :). Well if you do like this. Put auto instead of ext3 in that field and i think it would work nicely
11:35 < thalerim> LocalHero: mom, look me up in the sources
11:35 < thalerim> arghs ... where are my thoughts today? can't write
11:35 < thalerim> LocalHero: mom, let me look up in the sources
11:37 < thalerim> LocalHero: mh, i would have to test it. in the sources it checks for ext2 first, then four the jorunal entry in the superblock. Since this entry is "burned" into the superblock, it must *always* assume ext3, not querying what's supported.
11:41 < LocalHero> thalerim, hmm, oki
11:41 < thalerim> but i am rebooting with 'auto' now
11:41 < thalerim> a test it's worth anyway :-)
11:43 < thalerim> LocalHero: as i said it doesn't work ... hey but thanks for pointing me to this. really you made me get an idea where i could implement my thingie :-)
11:45 < huebi> thalerim: there are line breaks in 'package selektion' first screen
11:46 < thalerim> huebi: several? I only assumed the last one
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11:47 < huebi> sorry it's in summary
11:47 < thalerim> oh
11:47 < thalerim> mh. mom
11:47 < thalerim> i will boot without framebuffer in normal console resolution
11:47 < thalerim> huebi: what line?
11:48 < LocalHero> thalerim, no problem :)
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11:48 < huebi> line 3
11:48 < plfiorini> re
11:48 < thalerim> huebi: erm ... that must be a partition
11:48 < huebi>  /trg ....
11:49 < huebi> thalerim: yes, and the last % sign is in the next line
11:50 < thalerim> okay. then esden (or whoever has written it) had to compute wrong
11:50 < thalerim> but, sec ... i will look now
11:51 < thalerim> huebi: does it takes long until it's displayed?
11:51 < huebi> On the first screen a 'Press <Enter> to continue' is missing
11:51 < thalerim> i use an 24x cdrom drive and a 200mhz and it's *slow*
11:51 < thalerim> huebi: ow, i see
11:51 < thalerim> will be fixed
11:52 < thalerim> okay huebi
11:52 < huebi> thalerim: only about 5 seconds IIRC. Not as slow that it is anoying
11:52 < thalerim> i can reprocude the problem, thanks
11:52 < huebi> +n
11:53 < thalerim> huebi: it's untypically for C programs ... but i found no way to icnrease the speed since the cksums file _on cdrom_ are queried
11:54 < huebi> thalerim: I think the longest time was needed to spin up the cdrom
11:54 < LocalHero> Got to go, cya
11:54 < huebi> cu LocalHero
11:54 < thalerim> bye
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11:55 < thalerim> i feel a bit annoyed ... but i must test it on this PC i am currently chatting at
11:56 < thalerim> or bug #1 is fixed
11:56 < huebi> thalerim: Can you add <Select> <Exit> <Help> to the bottom of the Pkg Selection?
11:57 < huebi> like in 'make menuconfig'?
11:58 < thalerim> mh ... i dunno how ... i would have to look up in the source of dialog how it's done there. I will take a look after finishing work on mount
11:59 < thalerim> huebi: but what about the esthetics?
11:59 < thalerim> where do you want the buttons?
12:00 < thalerim> imho, it wouldn't fit at all
12:20 < thalerim> huebi: okay. formatting bug fixed as well. But it displayed _all_ partition it should display?
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12:34 < thaly^mount> today comes Formel1
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13:17 < owl> good morning
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14:42 < thalerim> re
14:43 < owl> hi thalerim
14:45 < thalerim> for everyone who's interested, my mount problem could be solved without modifying the code: You can use several filesystems in the fstab devided by a comma. So now i use "... ext3,ext2 ... 0 1"
14:46 < thalerim> at start mount will try if the device can be mounted with ext3 and if it fails, it'll try ext2
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14:57 < thalerim> moin snyke
15:11 < owl> thalerim: the kernel( i downloaded from ftp.kernel.org) is also not working...
15:11 < owl> or better: is not compiling without errors
15:16 < thalerim> tobrit@freebits send the whole output of make bzImage
15:16 < thalerim> tobrit@freebits.de
15:17 < owl> it's a computer without ethernet...
15:17 < thalerim> disk?
15:18 < owl> hm?
15:18 < thalerim> ist ein diskettenlaufwerk drin?
15:18 < owl> ja...
15:18 < thalerim> dann machs doch darüber
15:18 < owl> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
15:19 < thalerim> ich weiß nicht ob ich helfen kann, wenn nicht wirst du wohl die lkml anscheiben müssen/wollen/dürfen
15:19 < owl> hmm...
16:02 < tomik> hi all
16:04 < thalerim> re tomik
16:35 < praenti> hi
16:35 < praenti> uff. this two ext-pkgs are very big...
16:35 < praenti> (sdl and xine)
16:39 < huebi> re
16:39 < huebi> thalerim: did you fix the line break?
16:39 < huebi> moin praenti
16:39 < huebi> moin owl
16:41 < thalerim> huebi: yes, of course. but i didn't uplaod new diffs, do you want them?
16:41 < huebi> thalerim: yes,
16:41 < thalerim> okay, mom
16:42 < huebi> h0h0: can you do something that the feeling is like in make menuconfig?
16:42 < huebi> thalerim, even
16:42 < thalerim> ah yeah right, i wanted to look ... ehm, remind me later again please, i'll take a shower in some minutes
16:45 < thalerim> ok, it's up
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16:53 < thaly^shower> brb
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16:58 < huebi> moin SMP
16:58 < SMP> seufz
16:59 < SMP> Hallo huebi
16:59 < huebi> SMP: how are you?
16:59 < SMP> I need a shower. but fine otherwise ;)
17:06 < owl> hi huebi
17:06 < owl> hi all
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17:08 < huebi> hi owl
17:09 < huebi> bbl
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17:55 < thalerim> huebi: please notify me when you return
18:01 < praenti> does anyone know what i must do if i need adding a directory to the include directive in a compile?
18:01 < owl> hi praenti
18:01 < thalerim> praenti: -I/an/example
18:02 < thalerim> praenti: if i got you rightly
18:02 < praenti> thalerim: das mach ich wenn ich gcc aufrufe aber nicht bei configure/make
18:02 < praenti> das war doch was mit CCFLAGS
18:04 < thalerim> praenti: ah
18:04 < thalerim> praenti: CFLAGS
18:04 < thalerim> you can verify if it's "supported" by ./configure --help
18:05 < thalerim> usually used environment variables are listed tehre
18:05 < thalerim> there
18:09 < praenti> thalerim: no. the includedir i need is not supported. i have it done like that: CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -I..." ./configure ...
18:09 < praenti> and this lokks good
18:10 < praenti> s/lokks/looks
18:11 < thalerim> mh? it's exactely what i said
18:12 < thalerim> but never mind, the central point is it works :-)
18:15 < praenti> thalerim: ok. now i got you correct. you mean CFLAGS are supported by configure and you can read that if they are supported?
18:16 < praenti> argh. ich kann heut nimmer gradaus denken#
18:16 < thalerim> *g*
18:16 < praenti> ich machs jetzt mal auf deutsch
18:17 < praenti> also ich hab dich richtig verstanden, wenn CFLAGS geht dann stehts in ./configure --help drin
18:17 < thalerim> das ist guter programmierstil, autoconf macht das autoamtisch
18:18 < praenti> ich hab ein wo's nicht da steht ;-)
18:18 < praenti> aber funzt trotzdem
18:18 < praenti> xine-lib
18:35 * owl is away: I'm busy
18:36 < owl> *grml* damn x-chat
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18:36 < owl> sorry
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19:58 < tsa> tag
20:05 < rxr> hi tsa
20:06 < tsa> hi rxr
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20:22 < tsa> hi thalerim
20:22 < thalerim> re
20:22 < thalerim> ah, hi tsa ... nice to meet you
20:22 < thalerim> are you familiar to perl?
20:26 < tsa> hm...not really.
20:27 < thalerim> anyone else?
20:27 < thalerim> i have a nice idea regarding rock
20:28 < tsa> which is?
20:28 < thalerim> ok, let me it describe:
20:28 < tsa> <- curious
20:33 < thalerim> A Perl script that fetchs the up to date version of each package that is in ROCK every week from the 3 biggest and most recent linux app pages (freshmeat etc. - theese 3 must be choosen anyway). Furthermore this script creates a table with 4 cols: #1 current version of the Package in ROCK, #2 most recent version of app site 1, #3 most recent ... of app site 2, #4 most recent ... of app site 3. This generated table is sent to the list in orde
20:33 < thalerim>  to update packages. Maybe this script could even sort the list in "Packages to be updated" and "... not to be updated".
20:34 < thalerim> Sorry it's takes a while, i had to do something
20:35 < tsa> have a look at http://www.distrowatch.com/rock.php
20:35 < thalerim> i know it
20:35 < tsa> ah
20:36 < thalerim> but a) it doesn't include all packages, b) nobody really cares about (that's why the script should be send a mil  to the list)
20:38 < tsa> hm...
20:38 < tsa> i'm not sure if all people on the list would like that.
20:38 < thalerim> why not?
20:38 < tsa> anyway, you could send a mail to the distrowatch people and ask them for their script.
20:39 < thalerim> it's php ... not as good as perl would be in this case, imo
20:39 < tsa> we have a lot of packages now, so if this would be done, it should be on an extra list.
20:40 < thalerim> however these are details
20:41 < thalerim> do know anyone being able to realize this?
20:41 < thalerim> th?
20:41 < thalerim> dunno ...
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20:56 < tsa> hm...no idea.
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20:59 < tsa> re rxr_
21:00 < thalerim> hum
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21:12 < holyolli> moin
21:14 < praenti> re
21:14 < tsa> huhu holyolli
21:15 < holyolli> tach tsa
21:16 < praenti> weiß jemand wie ich raw devices bekomme?
21:16 < holyolli> moin praenti
21:16 < praenti> im /dev sind nämlich keine da
21:17 < thalerim> mh?
21:17 < praenti> zum einen wo die kernel option ist (kann ja sein dass ich das gar nicht drin hab) und zum anderen der eintrag in der devfs.conf
21:18 < thalerim> welche raw devices?
21:18 < thalerim> ach im kernel, joh da weiner *überleg*
21:18 < thalerim> ich glaub in "Generic"
21:22 < praenti> thalerim: /dev/raw/raw1 zum beispiel
21:22 < praenti> sind im normalfall character devices. aber da ist keine option drin
21:22 < thalerim> ich weiß nur dass es eine kernel option dafür gibt, wie das mit devfs funktioniert weiß ich nicht ... vielleicht mit MKOLDCOMPAR
21:23 < thalerim> MKOLDCOMPAT
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21:25 < LocalHero> Hi all :)
21:25 < LocalHero> SMP, thanx for changing the dns entry :)
21:25 < holyolli> hej LocalHero ;-)
21:25 < LocalHero> holyolli, whats up?
21:25 < holyolli> hm. nothing special...compiling rock...havin a bud...
21:25 < holyolli> ;-)
21:26 < LocalHero> holyolli, nice :). Life is wounderfull? ;)
21:26 < huebi> re
21:26 < huebi> thalerim: I'm back
21:26 < holyolli> LocalHero: jepp ;-)
21:27 < holyolli> hi huebi :)
21:27 < praenti> thalerim: also ich hab jetzt mal die zeile REGISTER raw MKOLDCOMPAT drin. seh aber immer noch keine
21:27 < thalerim> huebi: read some lines above, what do you think about?
21:29 < thalerim> praenti: mach vielleicht mal .* ... ich weiß's nit, sorry
21:30 < huebi> thalerim: ./scripts/Internal  checkver
21:31 < thalerim> huebi: what does it?
21:32 < huebi> checking the versions of the packages
21:33 < praenti> argh. ich bekomm immer noch keine raw devices. und rtfm is nich. die drechscheiße is mal wieder nirgends dokumentiert *sauerbin*
21:33 < thalerim> mh ... lol ... i assumed it *grinsel*  ;-)
21:35 < praenti> habs. kruzamfix. der devfsd is aber selten dämlich
21:35 < huebi> praenti: wie geht das?
21:37 < praenti> huebi: manuell erstellt
21:37 < praenti> zuerst mknod /dev/rawctl c 162 0
21:37 < thalerim> huebi: how the hell does it work?!
21:37 < praenti> dann mknod /dev/raw/raw1 c 162 1
21:38 < huebi> thalerim: I don't know. Ask clifford for comments
21:38 < praenti> danach raw /dev/raw/raw1 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
21:38 * praenti must boot his workstation
21:44 < thalerim> huebi: it would be possible ... and creating the buttons even easy ... but i don't think they will fit well.
21:44 < thalerim> why do you wish them?
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21:48 < nAdIeD> Kedan invitados a la conf ke se hara en estos momentos en #gigax , acerca de software libre.. about free soft
21:49 < thalerim> moin nAdIeD :-D
21:49 < tsa> hola nAdIeD
21:51 < thalerim> tsa: what did he say? i just understand he invites us to #gigax about any topic of fre software ...
21:52 < tsa> thalerim: that's it. an invitation to a conference about free software.
21:52 < tsa> taking place on #gigax
21:52 < thalerim> you?
21:53 * tsa taking a look
21:53 < thalerim> okay tell then, i guess it's in spanish
21:54 < thalerim> huebi: this fscking programm starts *a lot* of processes
21:54 < thalerim> 1500 in a few minutes
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21:56 < LocalHero> must go now, cya all
21:56 < tsa> cu LocalHero
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22:01 < th> re
22:01 < th> *stoehn*
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22:08 < th> kann mal wer den wasserhahn abdrehen?
22:09 < thalerim> *grinsel* wo wohnst du denn?
22:09 < tsa> hm..
22:09 * owl is back (gone 03:33:11)
22:09 < owl> re
22:09 < thalerim> re owl
22:09 < owl> hi tsa
22:09 * th wohnt in magdeburg
22:09 < thalerim> *gg* da geht's doch noch
22:09 < thalerim> hat jemand heute die Berichte von Torgau gesejem?
22:09 < thalerim> ein *sehr* guter Freund wohnt da
22:09 * tsa spendet schwimmfluegel
22:09 < thalerim> *grinsel* und ich kaffee
22:09 * holyolli nen tauchsieder
22:10 < th> thalerim: noch. ich war seit 1500 daemme bauen
22:10 < thalerim> irgendwie muss man ja das wasser aufbrauchen
22:10 < th> *keuch*
22:10 < tsa> holyolli: gute idee...einfach das wasser verkochen..
22:10 < thalerim> th: *grinsel* man sieht's dir an, hast endlich mal Farbe bekommen ... hgihi :o)
22:10 < holyolli> tsa: genau! aber keiner will meine genialen einfälle haben....
22:11 < tsa> holyolli: versuch mal nen paar tauchsieder mehr..
22:11 < holyolli> tsa: es war genauso wie mit meiner idee, instant-wasser herzustellen... ;-)
22:11 < tsa> holyolli: hm?
22:12 < holyolli> tsa: na instant wasser halt...wasser in trockenform.... ;-)
22:12 < tsa> holyolli: achso..
22:12 < th> nur wasser zugeben und man hat wasser, wie?
22:12 < holyolli> th: genau
22:12 * tsa friert das immer ein und hebt es auf, kochendes wasser kann man immer gut gebrauchen..
22:12 < thalerim> hehe!!!
22:13 < thalerim> extern volatile __freeze(char *s location);
22:14 < thalerim> wer schreibt die bibliothek? *bg*
22:14 < holyolli> hehe
22:14 < tsa> libwater ?
22:15 < holyolli> libaggregatzustand
22:16 < huebi> thalerim: I want to have a style similar to 'menuconfig'. This is known by many people and the install menu is almost not self explaining
22:16 < thalerim> *g* und für owl entwerfen wir ein void make_coffee_easiely_even_for_women();
22:16 < holyolli> hehe
22:16 < tsa> lol.
22:16 < owl> :PPPPPPPP
22:17 < owl> *aetsch* *zungerausstreck*
22:17 < tsa> owl: coffee for everybody, please.
22:17 < owl> tsa: with poison....
22:17 < tsa> (without water for th, i guess)
22:17 < thalerim> void make_coffee_easiely_even_for_women(void); /* <- man richte seine aufmerksamkeit auf das void *g* */
22:17 < owl> th: just the coffein containing stuff?
22:17 < owl> without water? ;)
22:18 < tsa> owl: i guess th already has enough water..
22:19 < owl> tsa: yeah. you're right, i guess.
22:19 < thalerim> huebi: Tell it clifford, he will design a new menu for 1.7 based on dialog. Why should I create it by my own, if clifford writes a new one anyway.. you see?
22:19 < huebi> This weekend was the 750th aniversary of 'Burg Frankenstein'
22:20 < huebi> thalerim: Just to get 1.6 out
22:20 < huebi> released
22:22 < thalerim> huebi: why couldn't you feel satisfied with the current controlling? I respect you and I am not against this, but I don't think we should almost completely rewrite it. But ... you could phone esden, he has some free time and said he will look at my modifies ...
22:23 < huebi> thalerim: Did you upload the new patch for the line breaks?
22:23 < thalerim> yes, i said it already
22:23 < huebi> thalerim: It's ok like it is. But it could be improved.
22:24 < huebi> *wegeting*
22:24 < thalerim> huebi: of course! But since clifford planned a complete new one (even not written in the same language, so we couldn't copy parts out of)
22:25 < thalerim> ...
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22:32 * plfiorini is away: i need a cold beer
22:35 < praenti> re
22:36 < huebi> openssh is broken. the setup script does not work anymore
22:36 < tsa> hm..
22:37 < tsa> let's guess... --prefix=/etc/ssh, but the setup script still uses /etc ?
22:37 < huebi> tsa: ACK
22:37 < huebi> tsa: fixed. I test it now.
22:45 < h0h0> whats a leet sounding german word?
22:46 < holyolli> hoho: krass ;-)
22:46 < h0h0> needs to be long
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22:46 < h0h0> mabey entschidungsproblem?
22:47 < thalerim> entsch-ei-dungsproblem :)
22:47 < holyolli> hehe
22:48 < h0h0> ok, I say Im doing pretty good to only miss one letter there
22:48 < thalerim> h0h0: since the new spelling there are some weird words like Schifffahrt
22:48 < thalerim> the three 'f's are righ
22:48 < thalerim> +t
22:48 < thalerim> or Betttuch
22:48 < thalerim> ...
22:49 < h0h0> new spelling?
22:49 < holyolli> h0h0: jepp... "neue deutsche rechtschreibung" some changes in the language
22:49 < h0h0> since when?
22:49 < holyolli> one/wto year(s)?
22:49 < thalerim> 2000 or so
22:50 < h0h0> wow
22:51 < h0h0> what does schifffahrt mean?
22:51 < huebi> Sauerstoffflasche <-old spelling
22:51 < thalerim> h0h0: mainly it was to write words as they're spoken
22:51 < thalerim> h0h0: navigation
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22:51 < h0h0> haha, I like the old spelling better
22:51 < thalerim> shipping
22:51 < thalerim> ...
22:52 < thalerim> huebi: du Toiletten-Tiefsee-Taucher ;-P
22:52 < huebi> Sauerstoffflasche = bottle of oxigen
22:53 < h0h0> thalerim: the new spelling or the old spelling was used for that?
22:53 < thalerim> h0h0: rofl ... it's kind of sentence in germany
22:54 < thalerim> h0h0: it's a nice meant insult
22:54 * h0h0 is confused
22:55 < h0h0> what is an insult? and what is 'to write words as their spoken, navigation, shipping'?
22:55 < thalerim> h0h0: Toiletten = toilet, Tiefsee = deep-sea, Taucher = diver ... in english it would be "dude" or something like ...
22:55 < thalerim> h0h0: insult is english ...
22:55 < thalerim> Schifffahrt means navigation/shipping
22:55 < h0h0> "Sauerstoffflasche = bottle of oxigen"
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22:55 < owl> re
22:55 < h0h0> ?
22:56 < thalerim> and the spelling reform was introduced, actually, to make words be spelled as they are spoken
22:56 < thalerim> h0h0: A Sauerstoffflasche is a bottle of oxigen
22:57 < h0h0> oh, so schifffahrt is *not* the new spelling of Sauerstoffflasche, ok.
22:57 < owl> thalerim: who do you wanna kill? 'Sauerstoffflasche'? omg!!!
22:57 < thalerim> h0h0: hehe ;)
22:58 < thalerim> owl: is memtest running?
22:58 < huebi> thalerim: !st call of summary needs about 35 seconds
22:58 < owl> thalerim: yeah. since about 04:30 hours...
22:58 < thalerim> huebi: ??? what are you talking about?
22:58 < owl> thalerim: still 0 errors
22:58 < huebi> thalerim: menu
22:59 < thalerim> thalerim: what is !sf?
22:59 < thalerim> s,thalerim,huebi,
22:59 < huebi> 1st
22:59 < thalerim> yes as i said really slow, but you gave the background of why
23:00 < rxr_> tsa: more fixed on my 1.7 tree ...
23:00 < tsa> ack
23:01 < rxr_> I'll now remove my half chaotic build and restart from scratch. Cu tomorrow ;-)
23:01 < thalerim> ok guyes (and owl) ... i will go sleepin now ... tomorrow school starts again *mhpf*
23:01 < huebi> rxr_: When do you fix the linux* pkgs?
23:01 < thalerim> see you
23:01 < owl> thalerim: gn8. have fun... ;PPP cu
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23:02 < rxr_> huebi: after my holiday and some important other work I fixed the most important 1.7 issues the last two days ... Maybe I have the time tomorrow ...
23:03 < rxr_> tsa: "./scripts/Update-System" is cool! It is running on my laptop ;-) But many packages needs some work to not  destroy the existing configs ...
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23:03 < tsa> rxr: ack. i know..
23:03 < huebi> rxr_: Can you be a little bit more pecise. I just want to know when it is definitly finished. Not when it might/should...bla
23:03 < tsa> hm...strange discussion on minimal install on the list
23:04 < praenti> huebi: btw. sdl and xine are now fixed. so we have a cool extension reanimated ;-)
23:05 < tsa> my minimal rock install was 23mb, but i don't rememer the pkg list..
23:05 < huebi> praenti: thank you.
23:05 < rxr> huebi: 1.5 is NOT my tree. I already contributed more I had time. I have dRock, 1.7 and (most important GSMP). I wanted to do this before my holiday - but missed the time ... Now I finished all the important needs here in Berlin. I can do it tomorrow if this is ok.
23:05 < praenti> tsa: believe me it was the same package list i worte in the mail ;-)
23:05 < praenti> s/worte/wrote
23:05 < huebi> tsa: glibc has 57Mb. How do you get this smaller?
23:06 < tsa> praenti: no, it was more than that. bash, nmap, ..
23:06 < tsa> huebi: manual deletion of unneeded crap ..
23:06 < praenti> tsa: ok how do you get it smaller?
23:06 < praenti> but 23mb is very small
23:06 < tsa> praenti: remove man-pages, docs, etc.
23:07 < praenti> we need a new target ;-)
23:07 < tsa> no compiler on the system. no need for .h files.
23:07 < praenti> rock 1.7 without any docs ;-)
23:07 < tsa> hehe
23:07 < tsa> most locale stuff deleted, too
23:08 < praenti> ok. i try it if i have sometime too much time
23:09 < praenti> but now i'm going to bed. gn8
23:09 < tsa> i had iptables, telnet, nmap
23:09 < tsa> ok
23:09 < tsa> cu praenti
23:09 < rxr> huebi: why was the kernel-config not done in Vienna ?
23:10 < huebi> rxr: No time for that. And you said you fix it.
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23:11 < h0h0> Geisterwelt?
23:12 < rxr> huebi: I only offered to fix it in 1.5 because you complained that it is unreadable all the time ...
23:12 < rxr> I do it tomorrow.
23:12 < huebi> rxr: Gret. Thank you.
23:12 < huebi> +a
23:12 < rxr> btw. solaris has also still not arrived ... ;-)
23:13 < huebi> rxr: give me your address again, please
23:13 * tsa going to bed.
23:13 < holyolli> n8 tsa
23:13 < rxr> n8 tsa
23:13 < huebi> cu tsa
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23:14 < huebi> rxr: If you put a bigger disk in your U5 just start the solaris installation to get a working disklabel.
23:15 < huebi> rxr: Do you have a list of all pkgs needed for gnome 1.4?
23:16 < huebi> rxr: I want to separate it from X11
23:16 < rxr> hm. For now the 10 Gig IBM is in the box. And this will stay in the box the next weeks - but thanks.
23:16 < th> qmail experts in here?
23:16 < rxr> huebi: no sorry. You can obtain a gnome2 list by grepping for the gnome category in 21.7 ...
23:16 < th> SMP: ?
23:16 < rxr> but there is no Gnome 1.4 in it anymore ...
23:16 < huebi> rxr: Only interesting for disks bigger than 40GB or so. linux fdisk fails
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23:16 < owl> re
23:17 < rxr> ok good night *
23:17 < holyolli> <-- also to bed
23:17 < holyolli> n8
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23:36 < SMP> th: yes
23:36 < th> SMP: ahh cool
23:36 < th> SMP: already got info from #qmail i wanted to know how to do that what is done when sending SIGALRM to qmail-send
23:37 < huebi> rxr: Is openSSH is now fixed for the new configuration location under /etc/ssh
23:37 < SMP> ok
23:37 < huebi> openSSH is now fixed for the new configuration location under /etc/ssh
23:38 < th> SMP: some lines are down due to flood in MD.
23:38 < th> SMP: so i established ssh-tunnel to keep smtp going
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23:57 < fake> elo.
23:59 < huebi> huhu fake
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