--- Log opened Wed Aug 21 00:00:19 2002
--- Day changed Wed Aug 21 2002
00:00 < huebi> 880GB ist erstmal ok. Denke ich jedenfalls
00:01 < _NULL> zum geier... wie viel? was? wo? *arghl*
00:02 < tsa> hehe
00:02 < praenti> so haben wir wieder  ein paar ext mehr: gabber, gkrellm, heroes, integrit
00:02 < tsa> _NULL lebt ja auch noch..
00:02 < huebi> owl: noch mal.
00:02 < _NULL> huebi: was _nochmal_
00:02 < huebi> praenti: klasse
00:02 < tsa> .oO( Kaffee? )
00:02 < huebi> owl: noch mal halt.
00:02 < _NULL> tsa: richtig erkannt. /me lebt noch.
00:02 * _NULL is confused. 
00:02 < tsa> gut. geh kaffee machen.
00:02 < _NULL> tsa: never
00:03 < praenti> huebi: und gkrellm test ich mal schnell
00:03 < tsa> _NULL: alternativ 3 sinnvolle rock-patches, bis morgen mittag 12 uhr ueber die liste..
00:03 < _NULL> tsa: bla
00:04 < tsa> Hunk #1 failed at line 0.
00:04 < _NULL> patch 1: owl_nick_change: NULL, patch 2: NULL_life_status: still alive, patch 3: NULL_life_status: dead
00:05 < _NULL> tsa: so, der dritte patch war der beste...
00:05 < _NULL> bzw. waere
00:05 < fake> *blinzel*
00:05 < _NULL> fake ???
00:05 < fake> nichts nichts.
00:05 < tsa> _NULL: man diff, man patch.
00:06 * _NULL kann ned lesen (nur mal so als anmerkung)
00:07 * _NULL listens to: Maximilian Hecker - Today 
00:09 < tsa> _NULL: was kannst du dann?
00:09 < _NULL> der song... yes! "and today / i will kill myself / and today / my heart will stop running / and today / i will leave the world behind me / and today / i will lose you forever / and today, yeah / oh today, yeah / oh today, the world is mine / mother, hold me / hold me tight / i will leave you"
00:09 < _NULL> tsa: nix. niente. nada. net.
00:10 < fake> _NULL: noch ein vortrag ueber... "hey... grow up.. and stuff" ?
00:10 < _NULL> fake: nein. ich bring mich schon ned um... aber trotzdem... der song hat was...
00:11 < fake> dann kleb dir nicht diesen kindischen aufkleber aufs hirn
00:11 < _NULL> fake: ist doch egal
00:12 < fake> wirklich in gefahr sind die, die nicht drueber reden
00:13 < _NULL> fake: hm. normal ja. wie gesagt - ich bringe mich ned um... jedenfalls im augenblick sehe ich keinen ernsthaften grund.
00:14 < fake> schoen.
00:16 < fake> owl: du hast nichts vrstanden.
00:16 < fake> ver..
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00:39 < praenti> i'm going to bed. gn8
00:39 < huebi> n8 praenti
00:40 < fake> n8 praenti !
00:42 < tsa> cu praenti
00:42 < tsa> *gaehn*
00:43 * tsa going to get some sleep, too ..
00:43 < tsa> cu all.
00:43 < huebi> n8 tsa
00:43 < fake> n8 tsa!
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01:04 * _NULL leaves you now
01:04 < _NULL> gn8. cu
01:04 < fake> n8 _NULL
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01:05 < fake> re d3mian
01:05 < d3mian> hi
01:06 < d3mian> hi fake
01:06 < d3mian> im so fucking tired, cya in some hours
01:08 < chrisime> hehe
01:09 < d3mian> ohh, chrisime , are u chris hamilt right ?
01:10 < chrisime> sure i am ;P
01:10 < chrisime> no! dude
01:10 < d3mian> ahh ok ;-)
01:10 < chrisime> you are asking me that crap all the time
01:10 < d3mian> lol
01:11 * chrisime slaps d3mian
01:11 < d3mian> u know im just kidding u ;-)
01:11 < chrisime> yeah
01:11 * chrisime kicks d3mian once more
01:11 < chrisime> ;P
01:11 < d3mian> :p
01:12 < chrisime>  /doublekick d3mian
01:13 * d3mian was kicked to bed .. zZzzZ
01:13 < chrisime> lol
01:13 < chrisime> night dude
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01:51 < huebi> YES! My mp3-server works. Two stereo channels fully controlled over /dev/tts/0. I use 2 soundcards
01:55 < rolla_> does anyone know how to show speed and duplex of a network card under linux ?
01:55 < huebi> rolla_: mom
01:59 < huebi> rolla_: http://www.scyld.com/diag/
01:59 < rolla_> danke
01:59 < huebi> ftp://ftp.scyld.com/pub/diag/mii-diag.c
02:00 < rolla_> okay now that tells me what it is at how do I change it :(
02:02 < rolla_> nevermind I found it :)
02:10 < rolla_> it doesn't work :(
02:12 < huebi> rolla_: http://www.scyld.com/diag/ <- search a little bit arround. I forgot how it worked for me exactly.
02:12 < rolla_> hmm I am now wondering if the card can do 100 :('
02:15 < huebi> rolla_: Whats the name of the chip on it?
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03:55 * fake drives home
03:55 < fake> cu later
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07:29 < nAdIeD> H!
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08:19 < huebi> moin
09:32 < [anders]> morrn morrn..
09:32 < [anders]> Gnome2 ISO again available.. make -j1 and full stage 5 re-build so all _should_ be okay.. http://62.3.122.161:8080/
09:33 < [anders]> will try and get Evolution to build in that build as well... But that is if I have time.. work is busy now...
09:35 < huebi> moin [anders] ;-)
09:37 < huebi> <- busy, too. Building a multi channel MP3-Server fully controllable over /dev/tts/0
09:45 < [anders]> moin huebi, wie gehts? :)
09:46 < huebi> [anders]: fine. I got all big questions answered last night for the MP3-Server. Now I make an offer for it.
09:47 < [anders]> :-) Good stuff. :)
09:47 < [anders]> Did rxr make any ammendments to the linux* patch in the end?
09:47 < huebi> Yes, and pure ROCK Linux again in a commecial solution.
09:47 < [anders]> well done.. :)
09:48 < huebi> [anders]: no, he didn't.
09:49 < huebi> Today I copy/write a first Coding Style Guide for ROCK Linux.
09:49 < [anders]> Ah well, hopefully there will be a working patch later..
09:50 < praenti> moin
09:51 < [anders]> tjena praenti
09:51 < huebi> [anders]: I don't think so. rxr can not write easy to understand and well commented code.
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09:51 < huebi> moin praenti
09:51 < huebi> moin bluefire
09:51 < bluefire> moin moin
09:52 < [anders]> huebi: hmm. if I had more time I would sit down and take a look at the linux configuration and build..
09:52 < bluefire> huebi: wie heisst deine Kaffeemaschiene (Java box) doch gleich nochmal? Dann die Java-Bytecode direkt interpretieren?
09:52 < [anders]> (linux as in kernel)
09:52 < [anders]> tjena bluefire
09:53 < huebi> bluefire: "Krups" or JavaStation-10. Yes it can interpret Java-Bytecode but the virtual machine is very old.
09:53 < bluefire> huebi: so it's not doting it in hardware, but has a VM firmware running?
09:56 < huebi> bluefire: Yes there is a 8MB Flash with the firmware inside and a normal 100MHz MicroSparcIIep
09:56 < huebi> no hardware Java
09:57 < bluefire> Ok. I thought it was doing it in hardware. Schad eigentlich.
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11:19 < holyolli> moin
11:21 < huebi> Muhh holyolli
11:21 < huebi> ;-)
11:21 < holyolli> *fg* remuuuuuh huebi
11:21 < holyolli> :-))
11:21 < huebi> *LOL*
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11:26 < martin_> hi all.  hi rxr
11:26 < holyolli> hi martin_
11:26 < huebi> hi martin
11:27 < martin_> hi holyolli
11:27 < martin_> hi huebi
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11:54 < bluefire> huebi: how about "#join dalug"?
11:54 < bluefire> huebi: It's always a little empty there
11:54 < huebi> bluefire: jo
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12:17 < martin_> hello ...
12:18 < holyolli> re martin_
12:19 < martin_> hi holyolli
12:21 < martin_> rxr? you are in Berlin :) ?
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12:41 < holyolli> hi anders
12:49 < huebi> Now it's time for PIZZA! ;-)
12:49 < holyolli> *g*
12:49 < holyolli> guten appetit
12:49 < huebi> holyolli: danke
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13:21 * praenti hofft dass der compile hinhaut *zitter*
13:22 < holyolli> was kompilierst du denn?
13:22 < praenti> die mysql-ext
13:22 < holyolli> ah
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13:23 < praenti> holyolli: wenn hinhaut ist die im cvs
13:24 < holyolli> was lief denn daran nicht?
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13:24 < holyolli> oder ist das die neue version, die vorgestern auf fm stand?
13:24 < praenti> die mysql-version war alt. und 2 files gabs nicht mehr
13:25 < holyolli> ah
13:27 < praenti> und der fl_editor macht jetzt erstmal ärger
13:34 < praenti> erklärt mir mal einer die zeile: const char *temp = name ? fl_filename_name(name) : NULL;
13:34 < praenti> das is doch schwachsinn, oder?
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13:43 < [anders]> tjena holyolli
13:43 * [anders] realises there has been some network problems during the day...
13:45 * praenti must write a patch for fl_editor
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13:57 < defbla> praenti: wieso?
13:58 < praenti> defbla: ansonsten kompiliert er nicht
13:59 < defbla> nein, ich meine was an oberer zeile ncht stimmt ..
14:01 < defbla> btw, wo finde ich die ..? :)
14:02 < praenti> die ist in den fl_editor sourcen drin. was da nicht stimmt ist, dass keine bedingung vor dem ? steht
14:02 < praenti> d.h. kein ansi-c und das hab ich dick...
14:02 < defbla> doch, name
14:03 < defbla> *temp = ( name ? ... : .... )
14:03 < defbla> so ist das imho zu lesen
14:04 < praenti> defbla: nöö. die = heißt ich schreibe den inhalt von name in temp. das ist kein vergleichendes =, das wär nämlich ==
14:05 < defbla> habe ich auch nie behauptet!
14:06 < praenti> ahh. mom. der schaut nach ob name != NULL ist. bäh ist das ein ekliger programmierstil
14:06 < defbla> ansonsten ist halt der rueckgabewert von (*temp=name) die bedingung, ich glaube nicht das clifford = und == verpeilt ..
14:06 < defbla> tjo :p
14:06 < defbla> elitaer halt :)
14:07 < praenti> defbla: das hat ja auch nicht clifford geschrieben ;-) bei ihm könnte ich mir das auch nicht vorstellen, nebenbei programmiert er lesbarer
14:07 < defbla> ahso ..
14:08 < defbla> ich dachte es geht um das flist wrapper zeug ..
14:08 < defbla> :)
14:09 < praenti> nene. der funzt ja wunderbar
14:09 < praenti> das ist der fl_editor für fltk. ist ein gui zuckerl für mysql
14:10 < praenti> da sind aber mehrere böse fehler drin. ich probier mal einen downgrade
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14:23 < term_emu> tag
14:23 < defbla> re term_emu!
14:24 < defbla> praenti: habe mal nachgeschaut, ?: wird vor = evaluated ..
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14:28 < thalerim> moin all
14:28 < praenti> defbla: wusste ich auch noch nicht. scheint nicht sehr häufig gemacht zu werden
14:29 < praenti> is aber anscheinend doch ok
14:32 < praenti> der scheiß regt mich langsam auf. das configure is auch steinalt. kennt noch keine CCFLAGS und CCPFLAGS
14:32 < praenti> scheiße das war ein fehler von mir
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15:07 < praenti> ok. mysql-ext is in the cvs
15:07 < holyolli> great :)
15:08 < praenti> and i need a break
15:09 < holyolli> ./dcc send praenti coffee ;)
15:26 < chrisime> hmpf
15:26 < chrisime> anyone has an idea how to work around that damn thing:
15:26 < huebi> chrisime: rm -rf /
15:26 < chrisime> bin/sh: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Keine Berechtigung
15:26 < chrisime> ich hasse das
15:26 < chrisime> habs immer wieder mal
15:27 < chrisime> hab bash nochmal compiliert
15:27 < thalerim> ls -l /bin/sh
15:27 < thalerim> ls -l /bin/bash
15:27 < thalerim> ls -l file
15:27 < chrisime> file <--? which
15:28 < thalerim> the shellscript that yo uwant to execute.
15:28 < chrisime> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root            4 08-21 15:18 /bin/sh -> bash
15:28 < chrisime> chrisime@speeder gnome-fifth-toe $ ls -l /bin/bash
15:28 < chrisime> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       470372 08-21 15:18 /bin/bash
15:29 < chrisime> ls -l configure
15:29 < chrisime> -rwxrwxr-x    1 500      500        254304 07-01 11:08 configure
15:30 < thalerim> is the partition noexec mounted?
15:31 < chrisime> doh!!!
15:31 < chrisime> dev/hda9 on /work type xfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
15:31 < chrisime> what a crap
15:31 < chrisime> thx
15:32 < thalerim> np
15:33 < thalerim> chrisime: btw. you can ban noexec from your fstab
15:33 < thalerim> it's pretty unnecessary
15:33 < chrisime> argh
15:34 < chrisime> and now i cannot unmount it
15:34 < chrisime> device in use
15:34 < thalerim> man fuser ; man lsof
15:34 < chrisime> fuser -k doesn't help either
15:35 < chrisime> thalerim: problem is, there;s no noexec in fstav
15:35 < chrisime> thalerim: problem is, there;s no noexec in fstab
15:36 < thalerim> ?
15:36 < thalerim> lol ...
15:37 < thalerim> grep -R 'noexec' / | grep -v 'Binary' | less
15:39 < thalerim> ok, i am away now ... must learn some greek vocables
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15:41 < chrisime> ouch
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15:51 < rolla_> re all
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15:54 < rolla_> grrr iptables grrr
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16:06 < huebi> hi rolla
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16:30 < thaly^greeky> re
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16:36 < Mike1> hi
16:36 < huebi> hi Mike1
16:36 < thalerim> moin Mikel
16:36 < Mike1> huebi: wie gehts?
16:36 < thalerim> tell about the party!
16:36 < Mike1> thalerim: hehe
16:37 < Mike1> thalerim: i'll make a summary, when i went back home i only had time to take a quick shower to get to work (got late btw)
16:38 < Mike1> i had very nice night :)
16:38 < thalerim> hehehe
16:39 < huebi> Mike1: Great birthday party ;-))
16:39 < Mike1> huebi: yup hopefully some time i will be in de and i could party with the rockers :)
16:40 < thalerim> hm, then you must be able to swim well *hihi*
16:40 < Mike1> hehe i can bet
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16:46 < thalerim> rofl
17:00 * [anders] thinks snyke is partial to i, w and 3...
17:11 < snyke> heh??????????
17:12 < [anders]> 15:45 -!- i9i3w3i7w [~snyke@pD9502A7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux
17:12 < [anders]> 3xi, 2x3 and 2xw.. :)
17:13 < thalerim> [anders]: ggVGg?
17:14 < thalerim> ^- vim key sequence :-)
17:22 < [anders]> ??
17:22 < thalerim> just open a file with vim and press these keys
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17:25 < [anders]> thalerim: ggVG selects everything, what does the last g do ?
17:26 < thalerim> do ? on the selected mask
17:26 < thalerim> g? does encrypt the text with Rot13. the whole command encrypt the whole file
17:28 < thalerim> s,rot13,red13,
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17:28 < Mike1> d3mian!!!
17:29 < [anders]> thalerim: hehehe... I think I prefer gnupg and 4096 bit ElGamal encryption.. ;-)
17:30 < thalerim> [anders]: it's pretty useful: just create a short key doing this sequence and when somebody comes who shouldn't see what you're editing, press this key and he won't get anything from the text
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17:32 < [anders]> thalerim: crafty.. :)
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20:38 < holyolli> re
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20:39 < owl> hi
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20:43 < tsa> tag
20:43 < holyolli> tsa!
20:44 < holyolli> welch überraschung! ;)
20:44 < holyolli> *tsaknuddel*
20:44 < tsa> *patsch*
20:44 < holyolli> hehe
20:44 < thalerim> ficken?
20:44 < holyolli> thalerim: mit dir?
20:44 < holyolli> neeee
20:44 < holyolli> ich werd dem tsa doch nicht untreu ;-P
20:44 < thalerim> passt scho
20:44 < holyolli> *g*
20:46 < thalerim> tsa: ficken?
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21:21 < tsa> zuviele Drogen?
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21:28 < thaly^shower> spielverderber
21:29 < thaly^shower> so bbl
21:29 < tsa> irgendwer .plan von Mathe?
21:29 < tsa> (Stochastik)
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21:35 < th> hat mal jemand major und minor von nem /dev/sda2 parat?
21:36 < tsa>  /dev/sda2: block special (8/2)
21:37 < th> 8,2 sind also maj,min ?
21:37 < tsa> jupp
21:37 < th> danke
21:38 < tsa> siehe auch /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt, sofern vorhanden
21:40 < th> schlage mich gerade mit nem alten P133 rum
21:40 < tsa> ah.
21:40 < th> sobald grub auf die platte zugreift passiert ein spontaner reboot
21:40 < th> scsi
21:41 < tsa> strange.
21:41 < tsa> lilo auch mal getestet?
21:41 < th> noch nich.
21:42 < huebi> kann man bei 'make modules_install' auch ein anderes Ziel angeben?
21:44 < th> das frage ich mich auch regelmaessig
21:44 < th> ich move dann immer /lib/modules/2.4.X in sicherheit und machs dann
21:44 < tsa> huebi: wozu willst du das?
21:45 < huebi> th: genau so mache ich das auch gerade.
21:45 < tsa> nur temporaer oder sollen sie auch von dem anderen Ort aus geladen werden koennen?
21:45 < huebi> tsa: nur temporaer. Ich mache gerade so etwas wie eine Crossinstallation eines kernels
21:46 < tsa> hm..
21:46 < th> damn wie soll ich die kiste jetzt noch booten?
21:46 < th> kernel auf diskette geht zwar aber nach 3 zeilen punkten schmiert er ab
21:46 < tsa> hm..
21:46 < tsa> hardwareschaden?
21:46 < th> eher nein
21:46 < th> hoechstens ein zu altes bios
21:46 < huebi> sparc kernel auf der U30 compiliert und jetzt soll der auf die platte der IPC
21:47 < tsa> huebi: /usr/src/linux/Makefile
21:47 < tsa> MODLIB  := $(INSTALL_MOD_PATH)/lib/modules/$(KERNELRELEASE)
21:47 < huebi> tsa: danke
21:47 < tsa> (untested, sollte aber wohl tun..)
21:48 < th> ich kann nicht glauben dass alle disketten fuern arsch sind
21:48 < huebi> :q
21:48 < huebi> ww
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21:59 < owl> hi
21:59 < Mike1> re
22:00 < owl> hi Mike1
22:00 < Mike1> hi owl
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23:32 < holyolli> gnarf!
23:32 < owl> hi holyolli
23:32 < holyolli> damn...just found out that anders know about the devfs-tty-vmware-problem
23:32 < holyolli> huhu owl
23:37 < tsa> huhu owl
23:37 < owl> hi tsa
23:37 < tsa> KAFFEE.
23:37 < owl> tsa: siehe howto
23:37 < holyolli> *lol*
23:38 < holyolli> <-- fand den klasse...
23:38 < owl> holyolli: *g* gibt auch linuxdoc.org wirklich ein minihowto...
23:38 < holyolli> ich weiss.. ;)
23:38 < tsa>  /usr/share/doc/mini-HOWTOs/Coffee
23:38 < tsa> das da vermutlich
23:39 < owl> *gggg*
23:39 < tsa> owl: dann spricht ja eigentlich nichts mehr dagegen, dass du so langsam doch mal versuchst, sowas hinzukriegen..
23:39 < owl> tsa, du bist ein spinner
23:39 < owl> tsa: was hinkriegen?
23:39 < tsa> kaffee
23:40 < owl> tsa: noe, will ich nicht hinkriegen.
23:40 < owl> tsa: gehe in den nachesten laden, der jolt hat und kaufe dir ein paar paletten
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23:56 < huebi> good night.
23:56 < holyolli> n8 huebi
23:56 < tsa> cu huebi
23:57 < owl> bye huebi
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