--- Log opened Sat Aug 31 00:00:37 2002
--- Day changed Sat Aug 31 2002
00:00 < th> hope the machine is ready when i wake up
00:01 < th> have to relocate > 100GB customer data to new raid-hardware...
00:01 < d3mian> btw.. today i was studying raid stuff at the class :p
00:02 < th> hehehe
00:02 < d3mian> im tired.. ill sleep too
00:02 < d3mian> tomorrow another test
00:03 < th> tomorrow is weekend, isn't it?
00:03 < d3mian> yes
00:03 * th lost feeling about time...
00:03 < th> "sense about time" i mean
00:03 < th> either more coffein or sleep...
00:04 < d3mian> sleep
00:04 < d3mian> i wont lose more time, cya
00:04 * d3mian zzzZZzzZzz
00:04 < th> good decision
00:04 < th> gn8
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03:47 < Mike1> n8 all
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07:07 < [anders]> good morning all.. just woken up... *yawn*
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08:34 < huebi> moin
08:34 < huebi> moin [anders] ;-))
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08:39 < thalerim> moin all
08:39 < huebi> moin thalerim
08:40 < thalerim> hier schüttet es gerade wie was
08:41 < huebi> hier kommt gerade die Sonne raus.
08:42 < thalerim> wow.. das letzte mal wo's so geregnet hat, war bei den Unterwetter, die im Osten zu den Überschwemmungen führten
08:44 < thalerim> und nun flacht's ab..
08:45 * thalerim is listening to Theatre of Tragedy - Der Fang der Schatten
08:45 < thalerim> brb (router neustarten)
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08:47 < [anders]> moin huebi
08:47 * [anders] has _finally_ managed to get CVS working as desired..
08:48 < [anders]> when in screen, don't think that group and grouplist changes actually counts for a user that is in a screen session..
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08:48 < huebi> Yes CVS is a little bit tricky.
08:49 < thalerim> re
08:49 < [anders]> you need to log out and log back in again.. (I was tearing my hair out over why the hell I could not create the lock files required in CVS even though all permissions _should_ be correct..)
08:49 < [anders]> re thalerim
08:50 < [anders]> so I tried loggin in again from another box and bang, it worked.. So now I have a cvs server with two rock trees on it, both a bit out of date admittedly..
08:51 < [anders]> at least it is a start. I can work from this point and forwards.
08:51 < huebi> [anders]: very nice ;-)
08:52 < [anders]> huebi: :) it just means the gnome2 tree is now in CVS and more than two people can work on it.
08:53 < [anders]> I just have to update the wiki with the details required for how to get an account in the CVS.. (using ssh2 for access..)
08:59 < huebi> reboot ...
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09:22 < term_emu> moin
09:28 < [anders]> <- afk (shopping)
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10:27 < thalerim> re
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11:16 < theogenis> re
11:16 < theogenis> huebi: SYN
11:18 < redipdown> hi all :)
11:18 < redipdown> damn when I boot from the iso of rock it reboot my computer
11:19 < theogenis> any errors?
11:20 < redipdown> yes when lilo test the bios
11:20 < theogenis> what does it say?
11:20 < redipdown> wait :p
11:20 < redipdown> it's show fast :p
11:21 < theogenis> there may be some lilo options you want to use
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11:21 < redipdown> what type of option ?
11:21 < redipdown> tell me some :p
11:21 < theogenis> dunno, must look up, mom
11:22 < redipdown> :p)
11:22 < redipdown> i will find if i can disable the bios check
11:22 < redipdown> on my other computer it boot normaly :p
11:23 < redipdown> i will rtfm now i think there are option for my problem :p
11:25 < th> someone willing to fix the ogle-extions in rock-1.5?
11:26 < redipdown> Sun Sparc Station 5
11:26 < redipdown> is an good workstation that ?
11:26 < redipdown> :p
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11:51 < th> arg arg arg
11:51 < th> that FSCKing --host in default $confopt
11:52 < th> proftpd and sdl are broken because of it
11:52 < th> huebi!
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12:11 < theogenis> does anyone know a small and resources sparing getty? Each Agetty takes 1/2 MB of RAM
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12:43 < esden> hi all
12:43 < redipdown> hi esden :)
12:43 < redipdown> how are you ? fine ? :)
12:46 < esden> I am fine thanks redipdown 
12:46 < esden> and you ?
12:46 < redipdown> mmh fine too :)
12:47 < redipdown> thanks :)
12:48 * -> esden was fighting nearly the whole yesterday evening with the 1.7 scripts ... but I finally found what I was searching for ... I am really interested if this feature is documented that I found ... :-)
12:48 < redipdown> hehe :p
12:49 < esden> hmm no mails in rlml ?
12:49 < esden> the linux* fight seems to calm down ;-)
12:50 < esden> ok ... I will be back in some hours
12:50 < esden> cu l8er
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12:59 < netcrow> hiho
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13:20 < esden> re hi all
13:20 < esden> ahh that is good ... 
13:22 < esden> 6kB down ... that is ok
13:22 < esden> errm I mean 60kB
13:26 < snyke> ;)
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13:30 * -> esden sucks ;-)
13:30 < esden> hi term_emu 
13:30 * -> esden sucks the net ;-)
13:32 < snyke> *g*
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13:47 < praenti> hi
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13:58 < esden> hi brand
14:01 < praenti> esden: wann kommst du wieder zurück nach IN?
14:01 < esden> in 3 bis 4 wochen
14:01 < esden> ich muss noch auf meinen neuen pass warten
14:01 < esden> leider
14:02 < praenti> esden: ach stimmt. hat mir irgendjemand galube der fake erzählt. also wenn ich dich richtig versteh kannst du im moment nicht deutschland einreisen?
14:05 < esden> doch kann ich ... 
14:05 < esden> aber ich muss den neuen pass selber abholen
14:05 < praenti> ah. des is blöd
14:06 < esden> den deutschen macht es nichts aus das das photo im pass teilweise nicht befaestigt ist
14:06 < esden> aber ich will es nicht ausreizen ... 
14:06 < huebi> esden: Geht das nicht auch im polnischen Konsulat in Deutschland?
14:06 < esden> wenn ich nen neuen pass habe habe ich ruhe fuer 10 jahre
14:06 < esden> nein das geht nicht
14:06 < praenti> hi huebi
14:06 < huebi> hi praenti
14:06 < huebi> hi esden
14:07 < praenti> und heißts immer deutsche beamte wären so schlimm
14:07 < esden> das muss ueber irgendein ministerium abgewickelt werden
14:07 < huebi> Bei Amerikanern geht das auch im Konsulat.
14:07 < praenti> die tschechischen sind anscheind schlimmer
14:07 < esden> ach frage mich nicht ... es geht einfach nicht
14:08 < esden> praenti ... wenn ich ein deutscher waehre ... wurde den tschechien es nichts ausmachen ...
14:08 < esden> aber die tschechien hassen pollen
14:08 < esden> ich meine polen
14:08 < esden> aus welchem grund auch immer
14:09 < huebi> Heuschnupfen!
14:09 < huebi> *g*
14:09 < praenti> lol
14:09 < praenti> obwohl des is irgendwie gemein des lol
14:10 < esden> ja ... schon .. ;-)
14:10 < esden> ich liebe verschreiber ;-)
14:10 * -> esden freut sich das in polen nicht so viele pollen rumfliegen ... ;-)
14:10 * -> esden hasst pollen ;-)
14:11 < snyke> *g*
14:11 < huebi> hihi
14:11 < esden> *gg*
14:11 < praenti> esden: naja. pollen machen mir nix aus. ich hasse bloß hausstaubmilben
14:12 < praenti> zum glück gibts kein land namens haustaub. dann ist missverständnissen vorgebeugt *g*
14:12 < huebi> esden: Ich habe gestern mal ein 16x2 LC-Display ausprobieren koennen. Funktioniert auch , braucht aber eine etwas andere Ansteuerung.
14:12 < esden> huebi ... korrekt
14:12 < esden> ich habe auch ein 16x2 display
14:13 < huebi> ich meine alles ist so ein bischen abgehackt.
14:13 < esden> aber ich habe nicht wirklich lust die lcd unterstuetzung fuer beide arten zu schreiben ... denn dynamisch ist es ziemlich schwierig zu implementieren ...
14:13 < esden> huebi: ack
14:14 < huebi> esden: nee, das muessen dann 2 getrente softwaremodule sein.
14:16 < praenti> ich werd mich mal langsam an ein paar exts machen. nämlich die die ich selber brauch. ich hab ein paar fehler im meinem linux
14:17 < praenti> berechtigung vorwiegend. irgendwie ist mir da was beim kopieren auf die andere platte verloren gegangen
14:17 * -> esden wird nachdem er in de ist ... sein eigenes respository an cliff schicken ;-)
14:18 * praenti will cvs für 1.7 und wird nie eins bekommen...
14:18 < esden> meine todo ... ist ziemilch voll damit
14:18 < esden> praenti ... du kannst es dir selber einrichten ... und mic cliffs releases abgleichen ...
14:18 < esden> da werden sich viele darueber freuen
14:19 < praenti> genau das ist mein problem. ich bin auf cliffords snaps angewiesen
14:19 < praenti> na mal schauen. vielleicht mach ich das mal
14:20 < praenti> esden: haben wir auf der ss10 genug power um eins zu hosten?
14:23 < praenti> kann mir einer sagen ob es freeamp noch gibt?
14:24 < praenti> seite down seit 2 wochen. auf freshmeat und sf is auch nix mehr
14:26 < th> hmmm. ogle fixed again... now it's playing encrypted DVDs again
14:26 < th> aehm
14:26 < th> s/again//
14:27 < esden> praenti: ja ... es wird reichen
14:27 < esden> scheisse ... ich finde es echt toll dass wenn ich nicht in bingo jede paar tage bin ... hinter meinem ruecken entschieden wird
14:27 < esden> suppertoll
14:27 < esden> deppen
14:28 < esden> ich werde es echt jetzt mit der standleitung in polen machen ... dann bin ich endlich von bingo raus ... und ruhe ist
14:28 < praenti> esden: was wird na entschieden?
14:29 < esden> ja ... das apollo auf eros umgezogen werden soll ... der eros ist scheiss instabil ... was wir schon gesehen haben vor nicht allzulanger zeit ...
14:29 < esden> weil mailsys umgezogen werden muss weil poseidon nicht genug power hat
14:29 < esden> und eros auch nicht schnell genug ist
14:30 < praenti> esden: das wird erst entschieden wenn du da bist.
14:30 < esden> der anton hat gesagt das das prob nicht an der hardware liegt ...
14:30 < praenti> da haben ich erdi und fake darauf wert gelegt
14:30 < esden> gut ... 
14:30 < esden> aber wieso erfahre ich das da ueberhaupt was im gange ist ... erst jetzt ... und vom snyke ?
14:31 < esden> und das irgendwelche gespraeche am 18 sind ?
14:32 < praenti> am 18. ist gespräch mit anton, was er zu der idee sagt. wenn er sagt, dass das nix ändern wird, bleibt das so.
14:33 < praenti> wies jetzt ist
14:33 < praenti> ansonsten warten wir auf dich.
14:33 < esden> ok ... gut
14:33 < esden> hast mich beruhigt ..
14:33 < praenti> das ganze ist uns letzte woche gekommen, nachdem wir riesenprobs mit dem mailsystem fetgestellt haben
14:34 < esden> ja ich habe es mitbekommen
14:34 < esden> aber ... ich sage euch ... apollo wird auch abkacken ... nur so zu info
14:34 < esden> das ist alte hardware ... und das raid ... hat mir schon probleme bereitet
14:34 < praenti> wieso? ist der hardwaretechnisch auch nicht ganz ohne
14:34 < praenti> axo
14:35 < esden> wenn da mehr bewegung auf dem raid ist ... dann ist in nullkommanix die kiste fuer den schrott
14:36 < praenti> ok. das werd ich dann gleich ansprechen
14:36 < th> i was that strange man-pager problem solved in 1.5.18?
14:36 < esden> fuer mailsys ... wenn es umgezogen wird ... braucht man gute ... am besten neue hardware ... weil wenn wir wieder was recyclen ... dann haben wir in paar monaten wieder probleme
14:36 < th> ESC-characters aren't evaluated
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14:36 < esden> das ist meine meinung
14:37 < praenti> esden: das werd ich so auch mal zursprache bringen. wenn du am 18. zeit hast um 19:30 dann hätt ich gesagt machen wir diskussion über icq?
14:37 < praenti> was häst du davon
14:37 < praenti> s/häst/hälst
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14:38 < praenti> ich hack dann das was der rest redet in chat
14:38 < praenti> zer0_o: have you fixed your boot problem?
14:38 < esden> gute idee ... hmm ... ja ich sollte in in sein ...
14:38 < esden> argh
14:38 < esden> ich meine da sein
14:38 < huebi> th: no, it isn't
14:39 < th> huebi: but how do i solve it?
14:39 < esden> ich werde mir zeit freinehmen
14:39 < zer0_o> no, i wanted to install it all new .. but i don't think that's gona help
14:39 < zer0_o> hi, btw =)
14:39 < esden> irc waehre mir aber lieber ... ich habe kein icq auf dem lappy
14:39 < praenti> zer0_o: have you running a 2.4.19 kernel?
14:39 < praenti> esden: ich mein natürlich irc. das war ein typo
14:39 < esden> kk
14:40 < zer0_o> i've copied the one from the 1.5.x distro
14:40 < esden> gut ... ich werde mir dann den 18 vermaerken
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14:40 < huebi> th: my first idea is groff.
14:40 < praenti> zer0_o: with a 2.4.19 kernel you must add another append-path to lilo
14:40 < th> huebi: i thought it was an environment problem
14:40 < zer0_o> paraenti
14:41 < praenti> because of a bug /dev/discs/disc0/partx wont work
14:41 < zer0_o> just a moment i boot the linux box
14:42 < praenti> zer0_o: you need s.th like that append="root=/dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part6"
14:42 < huebi> th: http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/groff/groff.pz.diff?r1=1.1&r2=1.2 <- groff got updated only in 1.5.18
14:42 < huebi> http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/groff/groff.pz
14:43 < th> huebi: so i should try downgrading then
14:45 < huebi> th: groff has some major changes in 1.18. You can ether dig in it for the error or downgrade it
14:46 * -> esden ist gespannt auf die zukunft ...
14:46 < huebi> (Networkload is quite high on world.)
14:46 * -> esden hate's kde ... it is so BIG !
14:47 < huebi> * esden loves his i386/25MHz 8Mb
14:47 < huebi> hostname: Pager.
14:47 * -> esden hugs his "pager"
14:47 < huebi> *g*
14:48 < esden> or better an overclocked pocketcalculator ;-)
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14:58 < huebi> th: do you downgraade groff?
15:00 < th> no yet
15:00 < th> huebi: but i'll try that now
15:00 < huebi> th: Ok. Thank you
15:05 < th> huebi: 1.17 works fine
15:05 < huebi> nice.
15:06 < huebi> th: Yours was the first bugreport in the last 4 to 6 weeks.
15:06 < th> perhaps we should revert the cvs commit
15:06 * praenti is coffee drinking
15:06 < huebi> th: Do you know how to do it? I don't know that.
15:06 < th> huebi: yea 1.5.18 seemed quite stable to me
15:06 * -> esden will go in some minutes home ... eat something
15:06 < th> huebi: i can do it
15:07 < huebi> esden: Have fun ;-))
15:07 < huebi> th: How do you do it? I'm really interested in that.
15:08 < esden> huebi: thanks ... I will have ;-)
15:08 < esden> ok ... cu guys !
15:08 < huebi> cu esden
15:08 < th> huebi: cvs up accepts -rX.Y as revision argument
15:09 < th> huebi: so i did a cvs up -r1.1 groff.pz
15:09 < th> (that becomes sticky)
15:09 < th> but i noticed that the former version was 1.17.2 not 1.17
15:09 < huebi> th: What can you do against these fscking sticky tags?
15:09 < th> but it works with 1.17
15:10 < huebi> please use 1.17.2
15:10 < th> huebi: rm -r the directory and cvs up -d again... (the quick'n'dirt way)
15:10 < th> huebi: or...
15:10 < th> huebi: doing something like -rHEAD
15:11 < th> or...
15:11 < th> editing CVS/Entries
15:12 < th> just removing the TX.Y after last //
15:12 < th> huebi: i'll commit that now if you don't mind
15:13 < huebi> th: please also remove the patches.
15:13 < huebi> moment
15:14 < th> when where these patches intropduced?
15:15 < huebi> with 1.18
15:15 < huebi> http://www.cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/groff/?only_with_tag=rock-src-1_5_17 <- this is working and up to date
15:15 < huebi> all revisions must be 1.1
15:16 < th> huebi: you really love that cvs-cgi, hein ;-)
15:16 < huebi> th: Yess! I do. best way to see differences fast.
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15:18 < th> huebi: yea. you're rigth
15:19 < th> huebi: oups. world does no longer resolve for me :-/
15:21 < th> huebi: so i'll co this tag and commit it as head
15:26 < th> huebi: done
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15:26 < th> huebi: gonna test it again..
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15:30 < th> huebi: ok. it's all fine now.
15:30 < huebi> th: The HEAD tag is the newest tag in cvs? Do I understand that right?
15:30 < th> huebi: yes
15:31 < huebi> Ahh, koool
15:31 < huebi> th: thank you ;-))
15:31 < th> aehm
15:31 < th> moment
15:31 < th> stop
15:31 < th> The HEAD tag is a virtual tag and represents the newest revision. not the newest tag.
15:31 < huebi> ok.
15:32 < huebi> MAKE="$MAKE -j1" mist be replaced with makeopt="$makeopt -j1" in groff.conf, too
15:32 < huebi> s/mist/must/
15:33 < th> done
15:33 < huebi> th: can you do that, too.?
15:33 < huebi> ok thanks
15:33 < huebi> so, now I'm off to the flee market. cu later...
15:33 < th> later
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18:12 < thalerim> moin all
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18:19 < owl> hi
18:19 -!- owl is now known as _NULL
18:20 < thalerim> re _NULL
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18:26 < huebi> re MoeP!
18:27 < _NULL> hi huebi
18:28 < _NULL> huebi: wie geht's?
18:28 < huebi> gut ;-)
18:29 < _NULL> huebi: hm. schicke mal was von den kleinen bunten pillen bitte...
18:30 < huebi> O <- Pille
18:30 < _NULL> hm. danke. *schlöuck* wirkt ned. :-(
18:33 -!- Krylathon [~tobrit@p50813761.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
18:33 < Krylathon> hr
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18:43 < huebi> *ROTFLOL* http://www.riaa.org/storymain.htm
18:47 < _NULL> wtf is that? *confused*
18:47 < huebi> <ironic> changed politics </ironic>
18:48 < _NULL> yeah. but _why_ and - are they crazy now. or wtf is that? :)
18:48 < thalerim> they were hacked
18:49 < thalerim> riaa = recording industry association of america
18:49 < _NULL> ah. i see. ;)))
18:49 < _NULL> *lol*
18:49 < huebi> And they are still hacked - very stupid
18:49 < thalerim> these guys have been closing all the p2p networks
18:49 < _NULL> hehe ;) why so? it's cool. but i prefer songs from 'joo kraus' ... ;)
18:50 < _NULL> thalerim: that suckz.
18:51 * thalerim is listening to Theatre of Tragedy - Der Tanz der Schatten
18:51 < thalerim> ^- wunderschönes lied!
18:52 < _NULL> hm. mantus - fremde welten - *.cda kann ich auch empfehlen... bzw. eigetnlich alles von mantus...  ;)
18:53 < thalerim> kenn ich nicht 8)
18:53 < _NULL> hehe ;) www.mantus.de --> genialst. das ist nicht mehr musik, das ist [faellt_mir_kein_treffender_ausdruck_fuer_ein]
18:54 < thalerim> ich steh mehr auf wundervollen frauengesang, wie nightwish oder ToT
18:54 < _NULL> hmmm... thalia = frau
18:54 < thalerim> ???
18:55 < _NULL> hmm... warst du auf der website?
18:55 < thalerim> na, noch net ;)
18:55 < thalerim> *klick*
18:55 < _NULL> tssssssssssssss... erst gucken, dann meckern...
18:56 < thalerim> ich adchte das wär ein solokünstl_er_ ... mant_us_ ;)
18:56 < _NULL> thalerim: *lol*
18:57 < _NULL> http://mantus.weltfremd.org/texte-abschied.htm#8 << unbeschreiblich imho
18:59 < thalerim> du hast nicht zufällig ein ftpd? *G*
18:59 < _NULL> hm? warum? ;)
18:59 * _NULL hat nicht mal "backups" von den audio-cds (!!!)
18:59 < thalerim> psss... riaa hört mit
18:59 < _NULL> :PPP
18:59 < thalerim> dann fertigst du eben welche an ;)
19:00 < _NULL> hehe ;) ich habe auch leider nur "fremde welten"
19:00 < _NULL> vorerst zumindest _nur_...
19:00 < thalerim> reicht doch für den anfang 8D
19:00 < _NULL> wie gesagt: fuer den anfang. aber diese musik macht suechtig...
19:01 < thalerim> also, ich geh jetzt ne stunde weg und in der zeit rippste *g* ... ich werd' dich dann auch untersützen wenn irgendwer wieder mit kaffee a nfängt ;)
19:01 < _NULL> *lol* noe danke
19:02 < thalerim> bitte!!!..
19:02 < _NULL> aber ich kann mal gucken von wegen rippen...
19:02 < thalerim> sf.net -> cdex 8)
19:02 < _NULL> hehe ;) i know... nur hat eine meiner kisten eine macke...
19:02 < thalerim> jajaja
19:03 -!- thalerim is now known as thaly^friend
19:03 < thaly^friend> mach bitte
19:03 < thaly^friend> *anbet*
19:03 < thaly^friend> .oO(wenn das mathilda sehe)
19:04 < praenti> huebi: da?
19:06 < thaly^friend> thx in advance @ _NULL :P
19:06 < thaly^friend> bbl
19:12 < huebi> praenti: jo.
19:14 < praenti> huebi: hast du mal versucht einen aktuellen snap aus dem cvs zu compilieren
19:14 < huebi> nein
19:14 < praenti> perl sagt keinen error und trotzdem aborted das pkg
19:15 < praenti> noch ein versuch. falls nix geht sag ich dir nochmal bescheid
19:20 < praenti> huebi: ok. hab ihn wieder. ich probier mal nur einen make prozess. ich schick dir das log aber mal schnell zu
19:24 < praenti> huebi: mail is unterwegs
19:37 < praenti> huebi: mit 1 prozess läufts richtig
19:44 < praenti> did someone compiled rock on a 2.4.x preemtible kernel?
19:45 < praenti> i only say low load average. GREAT
19:47 < praenti> *monolog*
19:49 < praenti> and on high load average very good reaction
19:55 < d3mian> re
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19:56 < tsa> hi
19:56 < d3mian> hi tsa
19:56 < praenti> hi tsa
20:00 < _NULL> moin tsa
20:05 < praenti> huebi: linux does not compile in stage 3
20:07 < praenti> huebi: i think the binutils are the problem. on my running system the configuration works
20:12 < tsa> huebi: awake?
20:14 < praenti> huebi: the problem are the binutils
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20:23 < praenti> hi zer0_o
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20:26 < praenti> how can i get the binutils version?
20:27 < tsa> $ nm -V
20:27 < tsa> $ as -V
20:27 < tsa> ..
20:29 < praenti> häh
20:30 < tsa> wo sein problem?
20:36 < praenti> tsa: ich will in die bash einen befehl eintippen der mir sagt was für eine binutils version ich drauf hab
20:36 < tsa> siehe oben.
20:36 < tsa> GNU nm 2.12.90.0.1 20020307
20:36 < tsa>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
20:36 < tsa> da is doch..
20:37 < praenti> ich depp. is schon ok. ich sollte weniger in der root shell arbeiten;-)
20:37 < tsa> lol.
20:37 < tsa> $ pkg-list |grep binutils| cut -d' ' -f2
20:37 < tsa> ..oder so
20:39 < praenti> jo. dürfte auch gehen
20:48 < thaly^friend> re
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20:51 < thalerim> _NULL: !!!!
20:51 < _NULL> hmß?
20:51 < _NULL> ?
20:51 < thalerim> gemacht?
20:51 < _NULL> still ripping.
20:52 < thalerim> okilidokili
20:52 < _NULL> thalerim: ??? was ist denn jetzt schief?
20:53 < thalerim> mh??
20:54 < huebi> re
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20:57 < d3mian> hi huebi
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20:58 < tsa> ah
20:58 < huebi> hi d3mian
20:58 < tsa> huhu huebi
20:58 < tsa> hi theogenis
20:59 < huebi> hi tsa
20:59 < huebi> tsa: Did you get the monitor?
20:59 < tsa> huebi: monitor arrived yesterday..
20:59 < tsa> yes.
20:59 < huebi> tsa: Is it ok?
20:59 < theogenis> re
20:59 < huebi> I mean not broken while transport?
20:59 < tsa> didn't yes have the time to test it, i'll probably do that tomorrow
20:59 < theogenis> _NULL: what should be wrong with me ???
20:59 < huebi> hi thalerim
21:00 < tsa> huebi: physical condition is very good, i'd say.
21:02 < huebi> tsa: Great that it is ok for you. I saw some light transport maks on the top IIRC
21:02 < huebi> +r
21:04 < tsa> huebi: ack, but they're nearly unvisible..
21:05 < tsa> (i don't plan looking on top of the crt too often, anyway ;)
21:05 < tsa> i think the front side is far more interesting..
21:05 < huebi> ACK
21:10 < huebi> Does somebody wants to have a SGI Octane, 250MHz (also a second one is possible), 256MR RAM (or more if needed), SI Graphics, price about 1000 EUR +tax and transport? I can get a few for this good price. Normaly one has to by 100 or more of them for that price.
21:11 < huebi> This is the normal price, 5.500 EUR: http://www.livingston-europe.com/shop/shop.php/lk=de/sk=de/pid=318/pt=pis
21:12 < huebi> hmm, I think the MIPS port is sleeping ;-)
21:14 < tsa> hehe
21:14 < tsa> huebi: are you buying everything livingston has in stock? ;)
21:16 < huebi> tsa: Well, I have some very good connetions to Livingston. I worked for a few months for them. So now I can get really good prices sometimes.
21:16 < tsa> ah, i see..
21:16 < tsa> what else did you already got for yourself last week?
21:17 < huebi> SGI and IBM are very good with their conditions and special offers but the SUN department is a bit nasty with prices...
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21:19 < huebi> also 2 IBM P202. One of my old ones has a problem with the "Ost-West-Entzerrung" and I sold my Iiyama "Vision Master P500"
21:20 < tsa> <- currenty sitting in front of an iiyama vision master 451
21:20 < tsa> (19")
21:21 * th sitting in front of an iiyama vision master too.
21:22 < huebi> IIyama is not bad - but the 21" Sony monitors are much better.
21:23 < th> 22" iiyama... well it's not a perfect one...
21:24 < huebi> th: hehe. The linearity of the Sony tubes is better. That was my first reason to by a IBM P202
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21:28 < huebi> With the IBMs I had only a few problems with the graphic adapters and the Video cords. The cards themself sometimes give no sharp picture and I had to replace the video cord with the big ferrit perls with a normal one to get the picture sharp, too.
21:35 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
21:35 < Mike1> hi
21:36 < Mike1> rxr: awake?
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21:37 < huebi> moin Mike1
21:37 < Mike1> huhu huebi
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21:40 < theogenis> re
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21:51 < owl> re
21:52 < d3mian> wb owl
21:53 < owl> if someone wants cool music --> query
21:53 < owl> (but it's only ISDN)
21:56 -!- owl is now known as _NULL
21:58 < theogenis> _NULL: *meep*
21:58 < _NULL> hmm...
21:59 < theogenis> i hate winrouters ... must reboot again *G*
21:59 < theogenis> brb
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22:04 < Mike1> hi owly
22:04 < Mike1> i want cool music
22:04 < Mike1> but i will poses ur isdn bandwidth
22:05 < Mike1> *g
22:05 < tsa> hm...
22:05 < Mike1> hey sebastian
22:05 < _NULL> hi Mike1. it's music which is in german language...
22:05 < tsa> hi Mike1
22:05 < tsa> hm..
22:06 < Mike1> _NULL: so go ahead gimme a link
22:06 < tsa> any recommendations regarding a SVCD player for linux?
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22:09 < Mike1> tsa xine
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22:10 < huebi> tsa: I use mplayer to play the video track.
22:10 < tsa> ok, thanks
22:10 < tsa> == 22:10:06 =[9]=> Building rene/mplayer [0.90pre6 1.7.0-DEV].
22:16 < tsa> hm..
22:16 < tsa> gives a strange-looking picture
22:17 < Mike1> SMP: awake?
22:20 < esden> hi all
22:20 < esden> is rxr here ?
22:20 < huebi> huhu esden
22:20 < d3mian> hi esden
22:20 < esden> hi huebi d3mian 
22:21 < Mike1> huhu esden
22:21 < esden> hi Mike1 
22:21 < _NULL> hi esden
22:21 * -> esden needs rxr
22:21 < esden> hi _NULL 
22:28 * tsa building xine
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22:28 < tsa> == 08/31/02 22:28:22 =[9]=> Aborted building package xine.
22:28 * -> esden fixing gkrellm packet structure ;-)
22:28 < tsa> hm...no, i don't
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22:29 * -> esden will probably also fix the gnome build structure too ... 
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22:29 < esden> that can by made much cleaner then rxr did it
22:30 < esden> this include files that he uses in not the right way to do it ...
22:32 < huebi>  ____________________________
22:32 < huebi> < Esden, don't eat me again. >
22:32 < huebi>  ----------------------------
22:32 < huebi>           \      (__)
22:32 < huebi>            \     /oo|
22:32 < huebi>             \   (_"_)*+++++++++*
22:32 < huebi>                    //I#\\\\\\\\I\
22:32 < huebi>                    I[I|I|||||I I `
22:32 < huebi>                    I`I'///'' I I
22:32 < huebi>                    I I       I I
22:32 < huebi>                    ~ ~       ~ ~
22:32 < huebi>                      Scowleton
22:32 < huebi> hehe
22:32 < esden> urgh 
22:33 < esden> sorry mathilda
22:33 < esden> I did not mean to
22:33 < esden> I was hungry ...
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22:34 < huebi>  _____________________________________
22:34 < huebi> < Esden. I start feeling better again >
22:34 < huebi>  -------------------------------------
22:34 < huebi>         \   ^__^
22:34 < huebi>          \  (oo)\_______
22:34 < huebi>             (__)\       )\/\
22:34 < huebi>                 ||----w |
22:34 < huebi>                 ||     ||
22:35 < esden> goood
22:35 < esden> I am very happy bout it !
22:35 * -> esden hugs mathilda
22:37 < huebi>  __________
22:37 < huebi> < Muh. ;-) >
22:37 < huebi>  ----------
22:37 < huebi>        \   ,__,
22:37 < huebi>         \  (oo)____
22:37 < huebi>            (__)    )\
22:37 < huebi>               ||--|| *
22:39 < huebi> th: Which IDE-RAID Controller do you use? Do you have an URL for me?
22:40 < th> huebi: www.3ware.com
22:40 < huebi> th which model?
22:40 < th> huebi: but i'm still "diff -r"ing the backup
22:40 < th> 7500-8b
22:40 < th> 8port
22:40 < th> i will install it in a few hours
22:40 < th> i can tell you more later
22:42 < huebi> th: I think about to use a IDE-RAID Controller, too. Not enough interups and not enough performance are left
22:42 < th> yea
22:42 < esden> huebi: interruptsharing *duck*
22:43 < huebi> esden: Does not work for the 3 Nvidia cards inside ;(
22:43 < th> huebi: performance is terrible with more than a drive per bus
22:43 < th> huebi: and software raid sucks
22:43 < huebi> th ACK
22:43 < esden> yes ... /me loves intel hardware ... 
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22:43 < esden> huebi: add additional interruptwires to your motherborard ;-)
22:44 < redipdown> hi all :-)
22:44 < esden> hi redipdown 
22:45 < huebi> hi redipdown
22:45 < esden> ok .... I go off ... modem costs too much ...
22:45 < esden> cu then
22:45 < huebi> cu esden
22:46 < redipdown> bye esden :)
22:47 < th> huebi: if you want to bye the controller. i bought it at ctt.de. i took 27 hours from submitting the form to opening the door for UPS
22:47 < th> s,bye,buy,
22:50 < th> s,27,26,
23:03 < huebi> 550 EUR is quite much money for that controller...
23:03 < huebi> <-Geizhals ;-)
23:03 < th> hmmm
23:03 < th> 550?
23:03 < th> no
23:03 < th> wait
23:04 < th> 399,-EURO netto
23:05 < huebi> th: sound better ;-)
23:05 < th> mit versand+versicherung+verpackung+mwst fuer 476.91
23:05 < huebi> jo, danke.
23:08 < redipdown> what type of controller ?
23:08 < huebi> #ware 7500-8b
23:08 < th> redipdown: IDE-hardware-raid controller. raid 0,1,5,10 and JBOD.
23:08 < huebi> 3ware 7500-8b
23:09 < th> redipdown: up to 8 ide drives
23:09 < th> redipdown: installs itself as scsi-device
23:14 < redipdown> huuuuuuu
23:14 < redipdown> :p
23:14 < redipdown> kewl
23:14 < redipdown> it's realy interesting
23:15 < th> ok... on my way to that customer
23:15 < th> need to install that thing
23:15 < Mike1> huebi: tsa hehe i finally hacked it :)
23:16 < tsa> ah, cool. what have you done?
23:16 < Mike1> mom
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23:21 < huebi> Mike1: Now charge him tomorrow at least 1000$. Special service at the weekend.
23:21 < huebi> hehe
23:21 < thalerim> re all
23:21 < Mike1> huebi: of course :)
23:21 < thalerim> _NULL: finished? I'd like to download them to burn
23:22 < Mike1> huebi: a few more of those jobs and i will get paid my little vacation to DE
23:22 < th> jobs?
23:22 * th has a highlight on "jobs" and "getting paid".
23:22 < huebi> hehe
23:22 < thalerim> lol
23:23 < Mike1> th nt admin pass recovery jobs
23:23 < Mike1> :PP
23:23 < th> ouhm.
23:23 * th declines THAT job.
23:23 < redipdown> lol
23:23 * Mike1 not :)
23:23 < th> now away for that sweet 7500-8b
23:23 * Mike1 uses a linux boot disk for such job
23:24 < _NULL> thalerim: yep
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23:27 < Mike1> owl!!!
23:29 < thalerim> damn
23:29 * Mike1 getting something to eat
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23:39 < thalerim> hmmm
23:40 < d3mian> cya later guys
23:40 < thalerim> *waiting*
23:40 < thalerim> bye
23:40 < d3mian> there will be several parties at my town those days
23:41 < thalerim> hrhr ...
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23:57 < tsa> olli!
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