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--- Log opened Fri Sep 20 00:00:01 2002
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00:11 < Mike1> see you later guys
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00:34 < demian> umm
00:34 < demian> seems that my ilegal instruction prob was caused by a confusion of gtk+ built :p
00:48 < acm_scl> Hi demian
00:49 < demian> hi acm_scl
00:49 < huebi> hi demian
00:49 < huebi> hi acm_scl
00:49 < acm_scl> hi huebi
00:50 < acm_scl> huebi: Do you use 1.7.0 tree?
00:50 < huebi> acm_scl: no, not at all
00:52 < acm_scl> i want to do a new target, but i'm not a shell guru,..
00:53 < demian> u dunt need to be a shell guru for that afaik :-)
00:53 < acm_scl> well, i want a GOOOOOOG config.in with dependencies check.. L:>
00:54 < demian> they are just a packages selection afaik
00:54 < demian> now i have to go classes, cya
00:55 < huebi> cu demian
00:58 < acm_scl> huebi, can you check the rock-linux mailings list? I wrote a msg.
00:58 < acm_scl> L:D
00:59 < huebi> acm_scl: why?
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01:00 < acm_scl> i want your opinion, is for a minimal target, like the old rescue was...
01:00 < th> sept: 143.08GB bandwith.
01:00 < th> wow
01:00 < huebi> tomorrow.
01:00 < acm_scl> ok,
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01:01 < demian> th: !!!  :)
01:01 < huebi> hi th
01:01 < th> hi all
01:01 < th> ;)
01:01 < huebi> th: what do you mean?
01:02 < th> huebi: mail about iso.rocklinux.org
01:02 < th> From: "Alexander Saers" <alex@saers.com>
01:02 < th> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:35:01 +0200
01:02 < huebi> ah ok
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02:56 < demian> anyone still awake ?
02:56 < th> ack
02:57 < th> demian: what's up?
02:58 < demian> i have probs building sh-utils
02:58 < demian> i think they are probs with automake
02:58 < demian> see the log:
02:59 < demian> https://www.ic-itcr.ac.cr/~jonvargas/sh-utils.err
03:00 < th> sounds like automake / autoconf version problems
03:00 < demian> yes
03:00 < demian> im using 1.6.2
03:00 < th> you might need a lower version
03:01 < demian> 1.5.3 i think, with this i didnt receive probs
03:01 < demian> thanx
03:02 < demian> umm.. is there a way to regenerate the aclocal.m4 file in the sources with my current aclocal version ?
03:02 < th> i've really no experience with automake and autoconf
03:02 < th> sorry
03:03 < demian> ok, no prob, enough help u gave me, ill try an earlier automake/conf version
03:03 < demian> :)
03:06 < th> yepp
03:06 < th> good night for now
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07:02 < EpA> Hey people, i got a weird thing happening. Iam doing a "w" and the text says there are 3 users, i only count 2 below... using pts/0 and pts/1 .. anybody know why??
07:02 < EpA> is there such thing as an invisible user?
07:09 < acm_scl> on your local computer?
07:10 < acm_scl> are you using X?
07:12 < EpA> nope
07:13 < EpA> i just did a "who" and now i can see the 3 users
07:13 < EpA> the third one was at pts/5
07:13 < EpA> this is weird tho..
07:13 < acm_scl> y son todos el mismo usuario?
07:13 < EpA> acm_scl: los dos, si..
07:14 < EpA> pero igual deberia de mostrar todos los usuarios logiados, o no?
07:14 < acm_scl> y con w, si lleva mucho tiempo 'idle' talvez es un ghost.
07:14 < EpA> puede ser, pero bueno..
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07:20 < kasc_> moinsen
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07:22 < huebi> moin
07:23 < kasc> sag mal, der cc1plus, gehört der zum c++ oder zum gcc?
07:23 * kasc reibt sich mal den Schlaf aus den Augen
07:23 < huebi> grep /var/adm/flist/*
07:24 < kasc> wird bei m packet gcc auftauchen, weil da alle Kompiler kompiliert sind...
07:24 < kasc> s/sind/werden/
07:26 < kasc> jep, ist sowohl beim gcc 2 als auch beim gcc 3 mit bei
07:28 * SMP reibt huebi etwas Pfefferspray in die Augen
07:28 < huebi> SMP: AUUUUA;-)
07:28 < SMP> Working file: misc/sysfiles/etc/inittab
07:29 < SMP> revision 1.2
07:29 < SMP> date: 2002/05/26 19:40:49;  author: huebi;  state: Exp;  lines: +1 -1
07:29 < SMP> changed default runlevel from 2 to 3
07:29 < huebi> Moin SMP
07:29 < SMP> Moin huebi :-\
07:29 < SMP> was sollte diese Aenderung denn..?
07:29 < SMP> ausser mittlere Katastrophen ausloesen
07:30 < huebi> Noch ein Runlevel extra zwischen single user und "alles geht"
07:31 < SMP> toll :-{
07:31 < huebi> SO DAS IN rl 2 zb nur sshd laeuft
07:32 < SMP> guter Gedanke
07:32 < SMP> nur leider eine inkompatible Aenderung
07:32 < SMP> die mich vorhin _nur_ einen Gang in den Serverraum gekostet hat
07:33 < huebi> rl 4 und 5 sind dann immer noch frei "zur besonderen Verfuegung"
07:34 * SMP hat seinen 1.5 tree mal auf 182 packages runtergestutzt...
07:34 < huebi> SMP: Nett. DFas hoert sich nach wohlueberlegter Serverkonfiguration an. ;-)
07:35 < SMP> und vor allem einen schnelleren compile-turnaround dorthin
07:35 * huebi hat jetzt QoS im kernel. 
07:35 < huebi> QosS muss ich nachhern mal aktivieren. Der Lag ist grauenhaft.
07:37 < huebi> SMP: Wenn X und Konsorten fehlen, sollte der Compile maximal 2-3h dauern.
07:39 < SMP> mal sehen
07:41 < huebi> SMP: hast du mal die Packetliste fuer mich?
07:42 < SMP> nach dem Aufstehen, ok? ;)
07:42 < huebi> BTW: "Die spinnen, die Roemer!" ;->
07:42 < huebi> SMP: ok
07:43 < SMP> huebi: wegen Domain Papierwahn?
07:44 < huebi> SMP: Soll ich die italienische "Waschmaschinenbestellung" mal ins deutsche uebersetzen lassen. Zumindest kann ich mal einen Freun fragen, was da drin steht.
07:46 < SMP> seufz
07:47 < SMP> ok, Bett!
09:24 < th> moin
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09:46 < th> is there no 1.5.18 @iso.rocklinux.de
09:46 < th> ?
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11:51 < [anders]> finally.. IBM has contacted my agency and I will be staying here at IBM for another year.. :)
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12:15 < bluefire> Moin
12:53 < huebi> [anders]: Congratulations
12:53 < huebi> moin [anders]
12:53 < huebi> moin bluefire
13:00 < praenti> hi huebi.
13:00 < praenti> huebi: ich hab dir ne mail geschickt. base filtert er mit meinem systax jetzt richtig. ext haut aber immer noch net hin. aber lies selbst ;-)
13:00 < huebi> hi praenti
13:00 < huebi> jo, mach' ich
13:01 * praenti is a few minutes offline. installing rock-1.5.19-base+opt
13:06 * praenti here again
13:06 < praenti> is the background new in 1.5.19
13:06 < praenti> have somthing about a scheduler in the background
13:06 < huebi> install menu?
13:07 < praenti> yes
13:07 < huebi> yes. tcr rewrote it a little bit
13:08 < praenti> ahh. but about the colors we should talk. i dont like black on red. thats a bit difficult to read. but installmenu lokks very well
13:08 < praenti> ok. i'm now installing rock
13:08 * praenti back in 30 minutes
13:51 * praenti back
13:51 < praenti> huebi: another problem. the ext-pkgs are in the install menu and this search the pakg in base-pkg path
13:52 < praenti> huebi: can you tell me where the install menu selection is generated?
13:52 < th> ext-pkgs are in the install menu????
13:52 < praenti> th: yes. ext is running very amok
13:52 < th> huebi: can you confirm that?
13:53 < th> praenti: are you talking from ROCKLinux Install Shell?
13:53 < praenti> th: yes
13:53 < th> praenti: that you run from cd after mounting /src and /trg?
13:54 < praenti> th: yes
13:54 < th> praenti: you select extensions there?
13:54 < praenti> th: if i know the old way you had to import them
13:54 < th> where do they come from?
13:54 < th> they are not on cd
13:54 < praenti> first. the it wanted to install from an archive in .../base-pkg/*.tar.bz2
13:55 < praenti> th: you are right. they are not on the cd. and if they are on cd they should lie under .../ext-pkgs/*.tar.bz2
13:56 < th> ack
13:56 < praenti> th: you know yesterday where build-all has sorted my compiled ext-pkgs in the base-distribution?
13:56 < th> yes i remember that
13:56 < praenti> th: that is solved. but the problem now is to copy the exts and have the install-menu right
13:57 < th> praenti: so you are talking of your cd and not an official one
13:57 < praenti> th: and i connot build an ext-iso at the moment
13:57 < praenti> th: yes
13:57 < th> praenti: i never installed an extension from binary
13:57 < praenti> th: the official ones are currently without ext-iso
13:57 < praenti> th: and without ext-pkgs
13:58 < praenti> huebi: dont ci my script at the moment. i will go trough when esden is back in Ingolstadt
13:59 < th> praenti: yea
13:59 < praenti> th: i have to little knowlegde about bash scripting
14:00 < praenti> i think i will print the script out, and have more complete look on that
14:00 < praenti> but first i must compile a new kernel ;-)
14:02 < praenti> th: thinking is really difficult if you're ill...
14:03 < th> praenti: full ack
14:03 < praenti> th: seit der tetanus impfung gestern tut mir alles weh. besonders die schulter wo gepieckst wurde....
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15:20 < praenti> wie heißt gleich nochmal der befehl um die pakete zu sehen, die installiert wurden
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15:21 < praenti> hab ihn schon
15:45 < praenti> somebody know where my parallel prot is in devfs
15:47 < th> parallel port?
15:47 < th> does it still exist?
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15:47 < th> haven't used a parallel port for at least 4 years
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16:04 < praenti> argh. anybody know where i must configure the parallel prot in cups?
16:09 < praenti> das scheiß teil macht immer als device uri parallel:/dev/unknown-parallel0
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16:16 < rolla> re all
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16:19 < rolla> MIKE!!!!
16:19 < Mike1> Good Mourning
16:20 < Mike1> JOEL!!!!
16:20 < rolla> Wie Geht's ?
16:20 < Mike1> very good thanks and you?
16:20 < rolla> doing better
16:21 < Mike1> better.... what happened to you ?
16:21 < rolla> Baby
16:21 < demian> Mike1:
16:21 < demian> hi all
16:21 < Mike1> d3mian !!!!
16:21 < demian> what the hell u did in tratagua machine ?
16:21 < Mike1> i didnt change the pass you are the only person who has ever used root on that box
16:21 < demian> :p
16:22 < Mike1> rolla: ?
16:22 < demian> umm, strange then
16:22 < demian> cause i saw several unknown commands in theindagua user
16:22 < rolla> My wife had a kid :)
16:22 < Mike1> demian: i havent been in tratagua in a long time
16:22 < Mike1> rolla: congratulations !!!
16:23 < Mike1> got pics?? :)
16:27 < Mike1> brb
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16:28 < rolla> thanks
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17:13 < Mike1> re
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17:17 < kasc> auch re :)
17:23 < demian> re
17:23 < demian> im almost dead :p
17:40 * demian at classes again
17:42 < Mike1> demian: almost death .... looks like you have been talking to much to owl ....
17:48 < th> hi mike
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17:54 < Mike1> yo th :)
18:00 < demian> re
18:01 < demian> i arrived late to classes.. maybe the class moved to other classroom :p
18:01 < Mike1> maybe you were to lazy to go to classes and pretended to confuse the class
18:02 < SMP> re
18:02 < demian> nahh. i went and the classroom was empty
18:02 < demian> hi stefan
18:03 < Mike1> re SMP
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18:14 < mUtante> H!
18:20 < praenti> re
18:21 < praenti> hi Mike1
18:21 < praenti> Mike1: do you have a running 1.5 base+opt and ext distribution?
18:21 < Mike1> praenti: hi
18:21 < Mike1> yes i do
18:21 < Mike1> que mas mUtante
18:22 < praenti> Mike1: cause the scripts in huebi's cvs tree have some problems. can you send it too me oer give me a download url
18:22 < demian> mUtante: ?
18:22 < mUtante> Mike1!
18:22 < mUtante> ke mas
18:22 < mUtante> d3mian
18:22 < mUtante> ke mas
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18:23 < nAdIED> bien o pa ke
18:23 < Mike1> praenti: it was my build on 1.5.17, with several features added only for myself i must search for the isos
18:23 < demian> ahh, i see, are u! :-)
18:24 < Mike1> tod bien gratz nAdIED, como esta marce?
18:24 < praenti> Mike1: i need more the sources. 1.5.19 has not divided the ext from the base+opt pkgs
18:24 < praenti> Mike1: so there musst be difference in build-scripts which i do not find
18:25 < Mike1> praenti: i am currently building a 1.5.19 system but the build is not ready and its only base+opt
18:25 < praenti> Mike1: shit. i need a build with base+opt+ext
18:25 < Mike1> if you give a few days i can finish a full featured (base+opt+ext) system and give you the binaries and / or the iso images
18:25 < nAdIED> marce good
18:25 < nAdIED> working...
18:26 < praenti> Mike1: the only thing i want that somebody else try such a build cause mine is not running correct.
18:27 < praenti> Mike1: because if other persons have the problem. than its not a problem on my box
18:29 < Mike1> praenti: ok look i will be camping from this afternoon untill monday, on monday i will go over a full build, how does that sound for you ?
18:29 < demian> have fun Mike1 ;-)
18:30 < praenti> Mike1: that would be great
18:30 < Mike1> demian: i will :)
18:30 < praenti> big thx
18:31 < Mike1> praenti: so count on it lets just keep in touch and compare our problems and try to solve issues
18:31 < demian> an article said judae people is guilty about september 11 incidents
18:31 < demian> 4000 judae people didnt go to WTC that day
18:32 < Mike1> i see
18:36 < praenti> Mike1: ok. i will start a new build today for my laptop. perhaps the problem was somewhere in my build cause of many modification
18:36 < praenti> like exts does not compile and so on
18:37 < Mike1> praenti: most ext are broken so we will have to do a lot of work around
18:37 < Mike1> but just to get some more ideas what are ur hardware specs?
18:42 < praenti> athlon 1000mhz asus a7v mainboard
18:42 < praenti> and 512mb ram
18:42 < praenti> sdram
18:42 < Mike1> athlon ...
18:43 < Mike1> i have seen people having problems building rock with k6 and k7 processors never heard anything bad about athlons
18:43 < Mike1> what optimization are you using praenti?
18:44 < praenti> athlon
18:44 < Mike1> praenti: btw LocalHero, the guy from iso.rocklinux.de was looking for you yesterday
18:44 < praenti> i will do a intel build now
18:44 < Mike1> praenti: maybe you want to try i386 ?
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18:44 < demian> i have probs with k6-2, with duron, athlon and others higher dunt have probs :-)
18:44 < praenti> Mike1: i think so. i 've written him an email
18:45 < praenti> but the isos are not clean
18:45 < Mike1> praenti: what isos?
18:45 < praenti> demian: asm erros?
18:45 < Mike1> huebi's isos?
18:45 < praenti> praenti: no. my own. without scsi but with reiserfs and an ext iso
18:45 < demian> praenti: nahh.. binaries dunt run as they should, i receive sth liek this:
18:46 < demian> which grep
18:46 < demian> /usr/bin/grep
18:46 < demian> grep
18:46 < demian> /usr/bin/grep: no such file or dir
18:46 < demian> $ /usr/bin/grep
18:46 < demian> /usr/bin/grep: no such file or dir
18:46 < nAdIED> haha
18:46 < th> Mike1: you wrote the interface for iso.rocklinux.de?
18:46 < demian> this happen me with awk, grep and textutils
18:47 < praenti> argh. today i cannot type.
18:47 < Mike1> th: no i did not but i am admin why the question?
18:47 < demian> and of course they have +x permissions
18:47 < praenti> demian: i dont have this problem
18:47 < demian> too strange for me..
18:47 < th> Mike1: i would like to see md5sums...
18:47 < demian> k6-2 machines are very stange, as i see
18:47 < praenti> ;-)
18:48 < th> Mike1: when downloading via ftp it's strongly needed to check the transfer
18:49 < Mike1> demian: k6-2 users are also very strange sometimes :P
18:50 < Mike1> th: i will talk to Alex i dont think it would be any problem at all to make this, and i belive it sure is a great idea to ahve it
18:50 < th> Mike1: ack. thanks.
18:51 < th> Mike1: and i'm missing 1.5.18 iso. we could remove 1.5.17 but should upload 1.5.18
18:51 < demian> where can i find a 1.5.13 iso ?
18:52 < th> demian: do you really need that?
18:52 < demian> nat so much... but im needing some old packages
18:52 < th> oldest i have for now is 1.5.16
18:53 < demian> some were removed of the sources dir, so i can get them back
18:53 < th> ./1.5.12/rock-i686-base-1.5.12-DEV.iso
18:54 < demian> i686.. it should be for a i586 or lower arch :(
18:55 < th> grmpf
18:55 < th> hmm
18:56 < th> -rw-r--r--    1 rock     users    540999680 Jun 21 14:37 rock-ia32-i386-base+opt-1.5.16.iso
18:57 < demian> :/ , i have a 1.5.16 iso :-)
19:00 < SMP> holy shit
19:01 < SMP> 2.4.19 make menuconfig crashes screen
19:01 < th> and hangs on old terms
19:02 < praenti> ok. now i must go. cu
19:02 < demian> tell me sth.. the install_bin console colors changed in 1.5.19?
19:02 < Mike1> SMP: o_O ???
19:02 < demian> cya praenti
19:02 < Mike1> praenti: ok talk to you on monday
19:02 < Mike1> :)
19:03 < demian> when u leave Mike1 ?
19:03 < Mike1> at 5pm
19:03 < Mike1> today
19:03 < demian> i received a red background and the C source as foreground runnig the install_menu
19:04 < demian> :p
19:07 < zer0_o> hm ?
19:07 < zer0_o> someone wrote a part of my nick =þ
19:08 < zer0_o> mike! you did =)
19:08 < th> 19:02:34 < Mike1> SMP: o_O ???
19:08 < th> ;>
19:08 < th> lol
19:08 * zer0_o slaps Mike1 with a Cheesburger
19:13 < SMP> hmm, that screen version must be buggy
19:14 < demian> when a package install fails in install_binm the counter is increased, even if the package is the same
19:14 < demian> so.. at the end u got sth like..:
19:14 < demian> 100% (225/221).......................10393 files [xfree86]
19:14 < demian> 222 is the total of packages and 225 was the counter
19:17 < th> someone willing to create a rock-1.5 gradio extension?
19:17 < th> https://freshmeat.net/projects/gradio/
19:22 < Mike1> zer0_o: hehe well o_O :P
19:34 < th> anyone has md5sum for rock-ia32-i586-base+opt-1.5.19.iso?
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19:40 < demian> my 1.5.19 iso has linux-src package damaged :-(
19:41 < th> doesn't matter
19:42 < SMP> just a second
19:42 < demian> da u need it right now ?
19:42 < SMP> 59a4c3de3afc570c9483de24c4e6312a  /mnt2/rock-ia32-i586-base+opt-1.5.19.iso
19:42 < th> SMP: thanks
19:42 < th> hmm
19:42 < th> mismatch
19:42 < th> oh
19:42 < th> de51a9ea05128e5a3b24d8ff1afed737  rock-ia32-i586-base+opt-1.5.19.iso
19:42 < th> damn
19:48 < zer0_o> mike ;)
19:51 < praenti> Mike1: still here?
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19:59 < Mike1> praenti: always
20:01 < praenti> Mike1: how do you build your binary. with Build-All LINK odr with Build-All COPY
20:01 < praenti> s
20:02 < praenti> oh shit. i should not move my mouse. gpm is runnig amok
20:03 < Mike1> praenti: most of the times COPY but i use lINK too
20:03 < Mike1> and you?
20:06 < praenti> Mike1: mostly LINK. I thought perhaps that result my problem. At the moment i'm building via COPY
20:08 < Mike1> i see, thought i believe it will not make any difference for you
20:08 < Mike1> praenti: do you get any asm problems? as i said before i have seen some strange behaviors on amd processors
20:09 < praenti> Mike1: yes. then I've tried to build a pkg without the gcc-warpper.
20:09 < praenti> Mike1: Result then is perfectly compiled...
20:10 < praenti> Mike1: i will do some debugging on the gcc-wrapper when this build is finished
20:11 < Mike1> :)
20:12 < Mike1> let me know how the build works :)
20:13 < praenti> Mike1: but the base ext dividing problem is not a problem from gcc-wrapper. the asm-errors are in linux 2.4.19 (2.4.18 has no) and mplayer
20:13 < praenti> Mike1: ok. i will tell you
20:14 < Mike1> praenti: anyway i must warn you _ALOT_ are out of date and / or broken
20:14 < Mike1> btw i have seen ur effors on keeping the extensions up to date excellent work :)
20:14 < praenti> Mike1: i have fixed a lot the last 4 days ;-)
20:15 < praenti> Mike1: nearly the half is now compiling. Broken are packages like mpich and all dependent pkgs
20:15 < Mike1> yes i  have seen this
20:15 < Mike1> also we will have to include some more extensions
20:15 < praenti> Mike1: and some other scientific pkgs. i did not need ;-)
20:15 < Mike1> for explample abiword and gnumeric will require aditional stuff
20:16 < praenti> Mike1: what is missing in abiword?
20:16 < Mike1> i do not remember right now but i know something was missing i tried to include in the base of my private tree
20:16 < Mike1> i will tell you later :P
20:16 < praenti> ok
20:16 < Mike1> i go for lunch now
20:16 * Mike1 is away: having lunch
20:19 < praenti> Mike1: the only thing i know was a typo. the one in huebi's cvs compiled on my box. a good eating!
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20:54 < _NULL> hi
20:55 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:38:25)
20:55 < demian> re Mikey
20:55 < Mike1> re all
20:55 < Mike1> ahh lunch was great :)
20:55 < demian> :-)
20:57 < nAdIED> Mike1
20:57 < nAdIED> hi
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20:58 < Mike1> tag chrisime
20:59 < Mike1> nAdIED: que mas
21:02 < nAdIED> almorzando
21:02 < nAdIED> aki\
21:02 < nAdIED> jeje
21:02 < demian> bien o no hermano ?
21:02 < nAdIED> d3mian es el otro yo de mike1 ?_
21:03 < Mike1> nAdIED: no, master demian un amigo guru de linux
21:03 < demian> lol
21:03 < nAdIED> uuu
21:03 < nAdIED> guru
21:03 < nAdIED> eso es mucho
21:03 < Mike1> nAdIED: nos conocemos desde hace algun tiempo :)
21:04 < nAdIED> roclinux por ke no tiene icono en linuxiso
21:05 < demian> iso.rocklinux.de
21:05 < nAdIED> pero porke no hay imagen en linuxiso
21:05 < nAdIED> solo ta el nombre
21:05 < demian> si hay un espacio ahi
21:06 < demian> ah.. quien sabe.. debe ser que no han puesto nada aun :p
21:09 < Mike1> nAdIED: talvez porque los de linuxiso son demaciado brutos para poder bajar la imagen y ponerla?
21:09 < nAdIED> no se
21:09 < nAdIED> no se como se maneja eso
21:09 < Mike1> :)
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21:09 < nAdIED> pero si deberian tener loguito
21:09 < Mike1> nAdIED: ROCK Linux has a logo!!
21:10 < Mike1> linuxiso people are the ones who have not post on their site
21:10 < Mike1> btw nAdIED demian please export LANG=en_US so everyone here understand :)
21:10 < demian> no prob
21:11 < nAdIED> undestand what?_
21:11 < demian> understand what we say
21:11 < Mike1> nAdIED: what we are talking
21:11 < Mike1> yup
21:11 < nAdIED> i dont understand
21:11 < nAdIED> explain me
21:12 < nAdIED> whats the LANG env ?_
21:13 < Mike1> omg
21:13 < Mike1> solo que cambiemos de language a ingles :)
21:13 < demian> lol
21:13 < nAdIED> pero lo traduce o ke?_
21:13 < nAdIED> jajaja
21:14 < nAdIED> el canal traduce?_
21:14 < nAdIED> lol
21:14 < nAdIED> ok no problem
21:14 < nAdIED> i can try speak in english
21:14 < demian> that's better :)
21:14 < nAdIED> then i can practice my poor english here!
21:15 * Mike1 have been considering on creating #rocklinux-es channel if the spanish speaking users list keeps growing
21:16 < nAdIED> haha
21:16 < demian> this week i met 3 spanish-speakers guys
21:17 < demian> 2 ones from chile, and an argentinian
21:17 < nAdIED> god
21:17 < nAdIED> in gigax all the people speak english =)
21:18 < nAdIED> hey
21:18 < nAdIED> i have to go now
21:18 < nAdIED> see ya lata
21:18 < Mike1> see you
21:18 < nAdIED> =)
21:19 < Mike1> demian: how about #rocklinux-bin ... we accept questions only in binary language
21:19 < demian> cya nAdIED , bring nadia sometime around here
21:19 < Mike1> demian: nADIED = nADIA
21:20 < demian> Mike1: 010010101010 01010 101 01 01 !!! 0101010 , 00101 !!!   101
21:20 < Mike1> demian: 111101100
21:20 < Mike1> :PPPP
21:20 < demian> i know, waht happen is that he is middle-woman
21:20 < nAdIED> nop
21:20 < nAdIED> d3mian
21:20 < demian> what about ur pretty colombian legs ?
21:20 < demian> aeh ?
21:21 < nAdIED> im a man
21:21 < nAdIED> but i have a friend called NaDIa
21:22 < nAdIED> then i use this nick sometimes
21:22 < nAdIED> thats all
21:22 < demian> k
21:22 < nAdIED> and my girlfriend is emarch= marcela
21:22 < nAdIED> i gonna met you with her
21:23 < nAdIED> how can i say that?_
21:23 < nAdIED> i go to buy a book
21:24 < nAdIED> byte
21:24 < nAdIED> i going to buy a book
21:24 < nAdIED> or i gonna buy a book
21:24 < nAdIED> lol
21:24 < nAdIED> see ya!
21:24 < Mike1> cu
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21:38 < Mike1> re chrisi
21:39 < praenti> Mike1: no problem if you speak sometimes in spanish. we have often LANG=de and that should not be ;-)
21:39 < Mike1> praenti: ack mein freund :)
21:40 < praenti> btw. how did you come to the rocklinx project?
21:40 * demian also wanna listen..
21:40 < Mike1> like what made me get interested in rock?
21:40 < Mike1> demian: lol
21:41 < praenti> yes and why you join developer-team
21:42 < Mike1> some years ago when i was a slackware user (/me ashamed) a friend of mine told that there was a linux distro names ROCK Linux which was known as the most difficult of all, and that only insane people would ever dare to use it
21:42 < Mike1> he was amazed on the fact rock could be build by just getting the sources from floppy
21:43 < Mike1> personally i liked the way it sounded
21:43 < Mike1> one moment phone call
21:43 < praenti> some people still say that rock is difficult
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21:44 < demian> i think not
21:44 < demian> just complex :)
21:44 < Mike1> praenti: yes thats true, userfriendly distros users think so
21:44 < praenti> i've heard about rock from esden. he is a very good friend. so i decided to drive to 18c3 with some other people
21:45 < demian> thats history is familiar for me...oo
21:45 < Mike1> praenti: but hey when i finally got 1.2.0 running on my box i was like hey this distro really kicks ass
21:46 < praenti> and there i thought, cool team, a little bit like a family and a very cool idea
21:46 < Mike1> and then i started to read the list, finally i decided to contribute with something so i translated and redited pjotr prins rocklinux guide to spanish
21:46 < Mike1> then started looking at more stuff and made contact with cliff
21:47 < Mike1> then boom i decided work around devs, its been almost 2 years since then :)
21:48 < Mike1> what about you praenti?
21:49 < praenti> Mike1: as i said before i must join ;-) most time i had to learn how rock-linux is working but now i know some parts. and thats cool
21:50 < Mike1> praenti: but i have seen you in the rock devs gallery :) so you must be doing some nice stuff around
21:51 < praenti> Mike1: only patchworking. but now i want to come to that point, that i can also do some shellandscript-work
21:51 < praenti> let me say i do a lot of patchwork
21:52 < Mike1> yes i have noticed
21:52 < demian> long changelog u have praenti :)
21:52 < Mike1> the extensions man :)
21:52 < praenti> i want to get 1.5 stable, to 1.6 and then i will join the 1.7 people
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21:52 < praenti> Mike1: yes
21:53 < Mike1> praenti: yes i am doing almost everything for 1.5 but sometime i will work on both
21:54 < praenti> Mike1: perhaps i cannot multitask. i've tried that but i lost my view for both
21:55 < praenti> so i concentrated in 1.5
21:55 < praenti> s/in/on
21:55 < Mike1> praenti: you will get used to multi devel with the time :)
21:56 < Mike1> right demian?
21:56 < demian> ohh yeah, sure
21:56 < demian> whoever could have several rolls of projects ;-)
21:58 < praenti> demian: in which projects are you involved?
21:59 < rxr> re
21:59 < rxr> Hi Mike1
21:59 < Mike1> praenti: how did you know i was focusing my devel work on 1.5? (today was the first time that praenti has spoke to mike)
21:59 < Mike1> hi rxr !!! how is everything doing?
21:59 < demian> praenti: none afaik
21:59 < demian> :p
22:00 < praenti> Mike1: dont think so. but most time you was talking when i was away and backwards
22:00 < demian> im trying to learn and make some mistakes, that's what i like :)
22:00 < Mike1> demian: hdw?
22:00 < praenti> demian: ;-)
22:00 < Mike1> praenti: true
22:01 < praenti> cause i'm ill today i stayed at home, normally i'm dancing
22:01 < Mike1> dancing?
22:02 < praenti> yes. chacha, rumba, samba, jive and some standard.
22:03 < Mike1> hehe sounds like fun
22:03 < demian> Mike1: praenti should know costa rica rythms then ;-)
22:03 < praenti> yes it is. i need that in my spare time when i'm not working on rock ;-)
22:03 < demian> praenti: da u study ?
22:04 < Mike1> praenti: yeah you should come over here, i got lots of pretty friends whon love to dance
22:04 < praenti> demian: yes. computer science
22:04 < demian> ohh, excellent ;-)
22:05 < demian> how does it goes ?
22:06 < praenti> Mike1: cool. perhaps next summer. perhaps i will coming not alone
22:06 < praenti> s/coming/come
22:06 < praenti> i think i'm too tired to think english...
22:06 < praenti> ;-)
22:06 < Mike1> praenti: cool guess we will have a rock devs meeting in CR next summer
22:07 < Mike1> :)
22:07 < demian> will i be there Mike1 ?
22:07 < Mike1> no
22:07 < demian> :-(
22:07 < Mike1> of course yes demian :PP
22:07 < demian> :-)
22:08 < demian> im tired too, havent sleep yet
22:08 < praenti> demian: what did you mean by does it goes. how difficult it is or how you can study?
22:09 < demian> ill sleep 1 hour . and later ill go to throw kicks
22:09 < Mike1> praenti: is more like if you are doing good on it
22:09 < demian> praenti: how diffic
22:10 < Mike1> demian: i will leave camping in less than 2 hours will have no phone no laptop, no mail, no net will come back untill monday
22:11 < praenti> demian: it is difficult but you can do it
22:11 < praenti> now i must go
22:11 < praenti> gn8
22:11 < Mike1> praenti: nacht
22:11 < Mike1> see you on monday
22:12 < demian> Mike1: survivor
22:12 < demian> sleep fine praenti
22:12 < demian> the same for me, cya
22:12 < demian>  anoncvs for 1.5 now up: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5
22:12 < demian>  anoncvs for 1.5 now up: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co rock-1.5
22:12 < demian> sorry, damn gpm..
22:12 < demian> bya
22:12 < Mike1> arrgg
22:12 < Mike1> bye
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22:59 < holyolli> re (finally) and hi all! :)
23:02 < Mike1> Cap. holyolli :))
23:04 < holyolli> buenas tardes mike :))
23:04 < holyolli> mike: that will still take a long time until "cpt"... ;-)
23:06 < demian> re -> still raining :-(
23:06 < demian> hi holyolli
23:06 < holyolli> hi demian
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23:09 < Mike1> demian: sonny with a soft wind here
23:09 < Mike1> just perfect weather :)
23:09 < demian> :-(
23:10 < demian> u know, cartago is the bermudas-triangle in costa rica
23:10 < Mike1> holyolli: i will looking forward for us to fly for a while when you get a licence
23:10 < holyolli> mike: hehe...when you've the right plane with the right thrust... ;-)
23:11 < Mike1> demian: i guess but i have noticed something funny... it only rains in san jose when you are around, even it rains alajuela when you go there, also it rains in cartago when you are there, are you sure cartago is the real bermudas-triangule?
23:11 < Mike1> *G*
23:12 < demian> lol
23:12 < holyolli> *lol*
23:13 < Mike1> holyolli: ah well i have expericence on hard landings, when i was getting my private licence and had only 15 hours the motor of the "piper" i was flying started to make strange sounds, the engine stopped about 30 seconds after take off
23:13 < Mike1> it was a hard landing at park but i made it :)
23:15 < holyolli> mike: that's the most important thing...that you get out of this in one pieve...
23:15 < holyolli> piece even
23:16 < Mike1> hehe yup
23:22 < holyolli> o.k. i'm leaving now...have a nice day :)
23:22 < holyolli> hasta luego! :)
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23:28 < nAdIED> hola
23:28 < nAdIED> volvi
23:28 < nAdIED> hi
23:28 < nAdIED> im here
23:29 < Mike1> welcome back
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23:51 < Mike1> ok i go for holydays now see you in 3 days :)
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