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--- Log opened Thu Oct 03 00:00:13 2002
--- Day changed Thu Oct 03 2002
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00:57 * _NULL moving herself to bed. 
00:57 < _NULL> gn8. cu
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01:02 < rolla> re
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01:03 < rolla> mike
01:03 < Mike1> rolla
01:03 < Mike1> damn COMUNICATIONS MONOPOLLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:03 < rolla> ?
01:04 < Mike1> Costa Rica had no internet conecting since 1:20pm!!!!
01:04 < Mike1> untill 30 seconds ago
01:04 < rolla> suck
01:04 < Mike1> fucking bastards
01:04 * Mike1 is pissed off
01:08 < rolla> what is that going to get you ?
01:10 < Mike1> dunno
01:11 * Mike1 grabs a beer
01:14 < rolla> cool get me one too
01:20 * Mike1 gives rolla a beer
01:20 < Mike1> cheers :)
01:23 < rolla> thanks
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01:30 < Mike1> _NULL:
01:30 < _NULL> hi Mike1
01:30 < _NULL> i'm off again. gn8. cu
01:30 < Mike1> arrg
01:31 < _NULL> sorry, but i'm tired (almost dead) feeling like a zombie and it's 01:33 a.m. in germany! so, don't complain.
01:34 < Mike1> arrg
01:35 < Mike1> *complain* *complain*
01:35 * Mike1 hugs _NULL
01:35 < Mike1> n8 my friend
01:37 < rolla> nacht
01:37 < Mike1> rolla you are leaving too?
01:37 < rolla> no
01:37 < Mike1> ok :)
01:37 * Mike1 gives rolla another beer ... want some "nachos"?
01:40 < rolla> noe I am good
01:40 < Mike1> k
01:47 < Mike1> ok i am leaving now
01:47 < Mike1> see you later guys
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07:48 < [anders]> meep... that was a decent nights sleep.. feeling somewhat refreshed now..
07:49 < [anders]> Mike1/rolla: no, was not here last night.. my estranged wife decided to phone and make silly demands for money again..
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09:04 < [anders]> moin zusammen, morning everyone, god morgon allihopa
09:04 < term_emu> mornin auch
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09:36 < rxr> re
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09:49 < [anders]> re rxr wie gehts?
09:53 < aszlig> re
09:53 < aszlig> uuh, im getting tired..
09:53 < aszlig> need some coffein ;)
09:54 < aszlig> brb
09:55 < [anders]> caffein.. coffein sounds like you are getting burried alive... ;-)
09:57 < _NULL> dood morngin
09:57 < _NULL> s/*/good morning
09:57 * _NULL is back (gone 08:27:38)
10:13 < [anders]> moin _NULL .. how's things?
10:14 < _NULL> [anders]: i dunno. i just got up half an hour ago. so i still don't know how they are. thx. ;P and to you?
10:14 < [anders]> _NULL: *g* well, my life is a mess, but working on fixing that..
10:15 < [anders]> other than that, I think things are actually quite good..
10:16 < _NULL> [anders]: *g* fixing life? how it works? which prog. language is used for fixing life? ;P
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10:46 < huebi> Moin ;-)
10:47 < _NULL> hi huebi.
10:47 < _NULL> huebi: how are you ?
10:47 < _NULL> when will the next rock-iso released?
10:47 < huebi> hi _NULL
10:48 < huebi> Perhaps this weekend. I have a working kernel configuration script for sparc64 since 2h.
10:48 < _NULL> ok. thx.
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12:27 < aszlig> does somebody want an image of an user-mode-rocklinux?
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12:29 < aszlig> hullo
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12:43 < huebi_> nick huebi
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13:11 * barthel is back (gone 18:18:41)
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13:12 < bathel_> re
13:15 < rxr> hi bathel_
13:16 < bathel_> hi
13:16 < bathel_> Mike, rolla, [anders] anybody awake ?
13:17 < [anders]> barthel: awake or here is debatable.. ;-)
13:18 < barthel> ;)
13:18 < barthel> now i've problems with build iptables :/
13:19 < [anders]> iptables 1.2.6a ?
13:19 < barthel> 1.2.7a ...
13:19 < [anders]> okay.. let me just state that it built for me.. :)
13:20 < barthel> but i chroot dist/ and ./scripts/Build-Pkg -3 iptables was successf. done...
13:20 < barthel> it was an ld error...
13:27 < barthel> -> PIZZA ;)
13:30 < fake> ARGH
13:30 < fake> hi
13:30 < [anders]> barthel: sounds like space issues with the ld failures..
13:30 < [anders]> fake: meep
13:31 < fake> now i know why glibc fails on debian boxen with newer dpkg
13:31 < fake> $backup='/var/backups/infodir.bak';
13:31 < fake> system ("cp $infodir/dir $backup")
13:32 < fake> Created file outside basedir: /var/backups/infodir.bak
13:32 < fake> DOUHG
13:33 < barthel> [anders]: wich file i've to check... ?
13:33 < barthel> .conf ?
13:34 < [anders]> barthel: not sure.. are you certain you are not using tmpfs?
13:35 < barthel> i'm not using tmpfs... it doesn't work for me :_/
13:36 < [anders]> not sure, what does the 3-iptables.err say when you build normally?
13:38 < bathel_> == 13:15:35 =[3]=> Building base package iptables [1.2.7a 1.5.19-Gnome2].
13:38 < bathel_> Pkg-Config: iptables.desc iptables.conf done.
13:38 < bathel_> Building. Writing output to /var/adm/logs/3-iptables.out
13:38 < bathel_> > iptables.o(.text+0x34ec): undefined reference to `iptc_is_chain'
13:38 < bathel_> > iptables.o(.text+0x3583): undefined reference to `iptc_is_chain'
13:38 < bathel_> > iptables.o(.text+0x3787): undefined reference to `iptc_delete_num_en ..
13:38 < bathel_> > iptables.o(.text+0x38ff): undefined reference to `iptc_create_chain'
13:38 < bathel_> > iptables.o(.text+0x3937): undefined reference to `iptc_rename_chain'
13:38 < bathel_> > iptables.o(.text+0x3955): undefined reference to `iptc_set_policy'
13:38 < bathel_> > iptables.o(.text+0x3983): undefined reference to `dump_entries'
13:39 < bathel_> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
13:39 < bathel_> > make: *** [iptables-save] Error 1
13:39 < bathel_> > rm libiptc/libip6tc.o libiptc/libip4tc.o libipulog/libipulog.o libip ..
13:39 < bathel_> /var/adm/logs/3-iptables.out -> 3-iptables.err
13:39 < bathel_> == 13:15:46 10/03/02 =[3]=> Aborted building package iptables.
13:40 < [anders]> okay.. the problem there is that something is not ready when the linker tried to link.. you might have to edit the .conf and add the line: makeopts="$makeopts -j1"
13:41 < [anders]> barthel: to me it looks like a 'make -jN where N>1' problem..
13:42 < barthel> yes it's 2...
13:42 < [anders]> try editing the .conf and add the line I gave above at the top..
13:43 < barthel> ok...
13:44 < huebi> makeopt="$makeopt -j1" - would be better
13:44 < [anders]> huebi: Ah.. could not remember if there was an 's' there or not.. :)
13:45 < huebi> hi [anders]
13:45 < huebi> [anders]: no there aren't 's's
13:45 < [anders]> hullo there huebi, how are things and did you get the wlan working?
13:45 < bathel_> hi huebi
13:46 < huebi> [anders]: No, I did not get it working but now I know how it should work. I need a much better antenna on both sides.
13:46 < huebi> hi bathel_
13:46 < fake> hi huebi !
13:46 < [anders]> huebi: that is usually the problem.. there are booster antennas to get that would give you about 5km reach.. ;-)
13:47 < huebi> fake: hi, nice to see you. ;-))
13:47 < fake> huebi
13:47 < fake> the pleasure is mine ;)
13:47 < huebi> https://www.wireless.org.au/~jhecker/ <- Very good site for some selfmade stuff....
13:51 * barthel barthel jumped to level (stage) 4 ;)
13:51 < _NULL> re.
13:55 < [anders]> barthel: I guess the make -j1 did the trick then.. :)
13:55 < [anders]> I suppose I should run a build with make -j6 or something just to flush out build-breaks...
13:57 < bathel_> ok... i run with -j2 now...
13:57 < bathel_> if possible to update the galeon-version ? or i've to test the 'old' to get it working ?
13:57 < [anders]> -j2 is not always enough to hit the problems with parallel compiling.. on a UP box, you might have to go higher to start hitting the problems..
13:58 < bathel_> aha...
13:58 < [anders]> dunno if there is a new verison of Galeoon to work with Mozilla 1.1 yet.. Not seen one, but I don't tend to use Galeon that much...
14:00 < bathel_> act. is 1.2.6 and in rock is 1.2.5
14:03 < [anders]> hmm.. perhaps time to hack the tree abit..
14:03 < [anders]> ooh.. there is Galeon2 as well.. :)
14:04 < barthel> is alpha... ;)
14:05 < [anders]> yeah, saw that.. and Mozilla doesn't have all the bits yet either..
14:05 < [anders]> galeon 1.2.6 it is then.. I'll give it a twirl and see if I can get it to build.. :)
14:07 * bathel_ stage 5 build ;) happy !
14:19 * [anders] is now attempting to build galeon 1.2.6, if this works, will be checked into cvs in the next few mins..
14:20 < [anders]> <- afk(on another screen)
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14:22 < bluefire> Moin
14:23 < barthel> moin;)
14:23 < _NULL> hi bluefire
14:24 < huebi> bluefire: hi
14:26 * bluefire findet Arbeitsplatte in Küche einpassen scheiße... vor allem wenn die Kanten nicht genau im 90 Grad Winkel laufen
14:27 * bathel_ wie ich das kenne bluefire ;-/
14:27 < _NULL> bluefire: *g*
14:27 * bathel_ großes bedauer an !
14:27 * _NULL only needs a place for her sweet computers. nothing else. :P
14:28 * bluefire wonders if _NULL_ can live inside a PC case
14:28 < huebi> _NULL: And a workin coffee machine?
14:28 < bluefire> hehe
14:28 < _NULL> bluefire: *g* i can't. but in a room full of compouters ;)
14:28 < [anders]> barthel: cvs and anoncvs updated. Galeon now builds!
14:28 < bluefire> naa... too loud
14:29 < _NULL> huebi: nope. i don't drink coffee
14:29 < barthel> cool ;)
14:29 < bluefire> besides, I already got a room full of computers, now I need a decent kitchen
14:29 < _NULL> (/me even don't serve it... ;P )
14:29 < Ge0rG> computers are cool... they don't make your heart bleed...
14:29 < bluefire> Ge0rG: really?
14:30 < huebi> Ge0rG: If you dont drop them...
14:30 < _NULL> Ge0rG: you are right. no people/relationships --> no cry
14:30 * bluefire remembers several times when a computer went down and took lots of work with it
14:30 < _NULL> bluefire: you need a kitchen for doing what? ;)
14:30 < bluefire> _NULL: food
14:30 < _NULL> bluefire: but work is cool.
14:30 < bluefire> work sucks
14:30 * bluefire makes a pause
14:30 < _NULL> bluefire: don't you have a "toaster" and/or a "pizza service"?
14:31 < _NULL> bluefire: you are lazy ;P
14:31 < bluefire> pizza service -> expensive
14:31 < bluefire> toaster -> nice, but I don't want to eat toast 24/7/365
14:31 * bluefire dreams of a nice yellow rice and indian chicken tomorrow
14:32 < aszlig> argh!
14:32 < _NULL> bluefire: *g*
14:32 < _NULL> aszlig: ???
14:32 * fake dreams of a cute, blonde chick tomorrow ;)
14:32 < aszlig> should never use ping in screen using uml!
14:32 < bluefire> fake: hehe
14:32 < fake> j/k
14:33 < _NULL> fake: tststs. you want to eat a girl? evil man
14:33 < fake> _NULL: i knew you wouldn't know what to do with a nice, young, blonde ;)
14:33 < fake> besdies trying to eating her.
14:33 < fake> s,eating,eat,
14:34 < _NULL> fake: yep. if he is a hacker --> well. let's talk about PCs... or so... :P
14:34 < fake> *laughing*
14:34 < fake> peecees suck
14:34 < fake> i want it all!
14:34 < bluefire> fake: actually most of the time they blow
14:34 < Ge0rG> is it possbile to be a hacker AND socially competent anyway?
14:34 < bluefire> ;o)
14:34 < _NULL> fake: is that really you? are you mutated?
14:35 < fake> _NULL: peecees.... pieces... i want it all... got it?
14:35 < _NULL> Ge0rG: look at me --> it isn't possible
14:35 < _NULL> fake: ah so.
14:35 < fake> Ge0rG: no. we're like monks...
14:36 * _NULL dreams about moving far away from her current place and owning a server farm with sweet machines ;) 
14:37 < fake> in berlin, for no particular reason, i suppose.
14:37 < Ge0rG> I've got an imac keyboard some days ago... all the people around me are laughing when I tell them that it's sexy :/
14:37 < _NULL> fake: i dunno where. i dunno how long staying there. just moving. and moving again... and so on. till end of life or so.
14:37 < fake> Ge0rG: that's why irc is so popular - we understand you.... ;)
14:38 * fake once fell in love with the "pulsing" light of a powerbook
14:38 < fake> _NULL: great plan.
14:38 < _NULL> fake: of course.
14:39 < fake> <- having cigarette
14:39 < _NULL> fake: guten "appettit"
14:54 < esden> hi all
14:55 < bathel_> hi esden
14:55 < huebi> moin esden
14:55 < fake> hi esden
14:55 < _NULL> hi esden ;)
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14:56 * fake is installing the i18n taglib...
14:56 < fake> esden: bchat web-frontend in kanji ? ;)
14:56 < huebi> esden: Are you still in Poland?
14:58 < esden> yes I am still in poland
14:58 * -> esden sent an issue patch to clifford
14:59 < esden> fake: good idea ;-)
14:59 < esden> now you can select an alternative issue in rock 1.7 ;-)
14:59 < esden> 1..7 gets more and more flexible 
15:00 < huebi> ...and more complicated...
15:00 < esden> huebi: I will take a look at the display stuff when I am back and I have my exam behind me
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15:00 < huebi> esden: kool
15:00 < [anders]> meep rolla
15:00 < esden> that will be 12.10.2001 or so
15:01 < esden> huebi: I have not forgotten about this ;-)
15:01 < esden> hi rolla 
15:01 < huebi> * esden must have _much_ money. 2 month holidays in Poland...
15:02 < esden> huebi: yes and more complicated ... but if you ask me it is pretty straightforward ... 
15:02 < esden> I understand 1.7 ... 
15:02 < fake> <AOL> Me, too! </AOL>
15:02 < esden> huebi: I have no money ... I am living at my granny ... 
15:03 < huebi> *g*
15:03 < esden> I can not wait till huebi starts to complain that 1.7 is to complicated and not commented enough ... I see it coming ;-)
15:03 < huebi>  <AOL> Me, too! </AOL>
15:03 < rolla> re
15:04 < fake> re rolla!
15:04 < rolla> fake still problems with screen :(
15:05 < fake> :(
15:05 < huebi> esden: I just through away _all_ the linux*.conf stuff. Now it's really simple but needs a new kernel.config each time a new kernel is released.
15:05 < esden> huebi: I have implemented a help system to ./scripts/Config in 1.7 some weeks ago ... all config stuff that I wrote is now commented ... all other stuff is not my thing ... so ... I have not wrote it yet ... and would like to invest my time in other things then these ... (really trivial) documentation
15:17 < esden> will you make it more flexible ? or will you leave it so simple ?
15:17 < esden> simple & unflexible
15:18 < esden> hmm
15:20 < esden> huebi seems not to like me anymore :-(
15:23 < esden> hmm ... ok ... 
15:23 < esden> then I am off
15:23 < esden> cu guys
15:24 < fake> cya
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15:24 < Mike1> Hi all
15:25 < th> hi Mike1
15:25 < barthel> hi Mike1
15:26 * barthel stage 5 now building ;)
15:26 < Mike1> th i will remove the two cp lines from vim.conf
15:26 < Mike1> barthel: excellent
15:26 < th> Mike1: cool
15:26 < rolla> Mike
15:26 < Mike1> hi Joel
15:27 < rolla> wie geht's ?
15:27 < Mike1> ok thanks and you?
15:28 < rolla> okay email is down :(
15:28 < Mike1> ?
15:29 < Mike1> what do you mean by email is down?
15:29 < _NULL> oops. bye esden
15:29 < rolla> my companies email is dead like the exchange server it is on :(
15:29 < Mike1> _NULL
15:29 < _NULL> hi Mike1
15:29 < Mike1> rolla exchange? wtf is that?
15:29 < bathel_> rolla: ;-(  exchange hhhmmm...
15:30 < Mike1> rolla you _must_ get rid of that """"mail server""""
15:30 < rolla> yeah my compnay is msart
15:30 < rolla> smart
15:30 < rolla> they are too big for me to kill it :(
15:31 < bathel_> it's nor really comlicated to kill a exchange-server ;)
15:31 < bathel_> s/nor/not/g
15:32 < Mike1> rolla well it is wroth to kill it no matter how big the company is
15:32 < barthel> ;)
15:34 < barthel> but really guy's what's alternative to exchange ? domino ?? *ggrr*
15:35 < rolla> qmail / sendmail
15:35 < barthel> i mean exchange as gropware... not as email-server... there are alt. enough !
15:35 < Mike1> barthel: err... mandrake?
15:35 < Mike1> *G*
15:36 < barthel> ???
15:36 < barthel> s/mean/understand/g
15:36 < Mike1> would it count as an alternative?
15:36 < Mike1> i wouldnt count it as linux distro :P
15:37 < barthel> mandrake is a linux-distr. ?!
15:37 < Mike1> <Mike1> i wouldnt count it as linux distro :P
15:40 < barthel> my company for ex. has around 20 coworker... 3 of them (i'm included) working permanently under linux. the others are Windows user... i don't know a groupware there provide both... my boss don't change to another client. he like outlook :-/
15:40 < barthel> understand what i mean ?
15:41 < Mike1> ah i see
15:41 < Mike1> alternative for windows... incredimail
15:42 < Mike1> my sugestion move then all to linux use evolution
15:42 < Mike1> :)
15:42 < barthel> i cry it once per day over the floor ;-)
15:43 < Mike1> ?
15:44 < barthel> i use evolution... but the exchange-connector to exchange is to expensive for my boss :-/, so i know at least from meetings and so :-/
15:45 < Mike1> mmm...
15:46 < barthel> yep ;)
15:46 < barthel> [anders] has galeon build ;)
15:47 < Mike1> in four year i have not been unlucky asked to run an exchange server at any of my jobs
15:47 < barthel> ;)
15:47 < Mike1> just sendmail :)
15:47 < Mike1> barthel: when did he told you?
15:47 < Mike1> [anders]: here????
15:48 < barthel> 1,5 h ago...
15:48 < Mike1> ...A...N...D...E...R...S...
15:49 < Mike1> barthel: mmm did you he downgrade mozilla to 1.0?
15:49 < barthel> he looks on other display...
15:49 < barthel> no. he build galeon with mozilla  1.1
15:50 < Mike1> mmmm
15:50 < barthel> but i don't know exactly
15:50 < Mike1> Galeon has been updated to version 1.2.6 and builds with Mozilla 1.1
15:50 < Mike1> now. All in CVS and anoncvs.
15:50 < rolla> yeah anders said he had it fixed :_)
15:50 < barthel> yep. he tould that...
15:50 < Mike1> now i know how it was fixed
15:50 < barthel> ;)
15:51 < Mike1> yes he just sent a mail to our high traffic mailing lists :)
15:51 < Mike1> btw i still have not fixed it :)
15:51 < barthel> a i see ;)
15:52 < [anders]> meep
15:52 < Mike1> moo [anders]
15:52 < bathel_> == 15:49:33 =[5]=> Building base package xfree86 [4.2.0 1.5.19-Gnome2]
15:52 < huebi> barthel: www.phpgroupware.org
15:52 < Mike1> barthel: congrats
15:52 < Mike1> Master huebi !
15:53 < huebi> hi Mike1
15:53 < Mike1> how are you ? great to see you here
15:53 * [anders] just updated gnupg to version 1.2.0
15:54 < [anders]> locally.. I still have to look through the rock code and see if it a) is there and b) needs updating..
15:54 < huebi> Mike1: Fine. I did much on linux* in the last days
15:54 * Mike1 is improving features of rock-gnome2 and adding gnome2 extension to rock 1.5.19
15:54 < [anders]> if it isn't there, I might just go and add it.. :)
15:55 < Mike1> huebi: nice so you think now /usr/src/linux-X will actually contain the linux sources and not just the include directory?
15:56 < huebi> Mike1: Yes, I fix that till the weekend.
15:56 < Mike1> huebi: good
15:57 < Mike1> what about the journalized fs support?
15:57 * Mike1 really needs it 
15:57 < huebi> Mike1: Journaled fs will be in there at version 1.5.20.
15:57 < huebi> also an xfs kernel will be added
15:58 < barthel> GREAT !!!
15:59 < Mike1> oh Goddess Mathilda THANKS for finally hearing my prays
15:59 < Mike1> :)
15:59 < Mike1> huebi: excellent
15:59 < huebi> Muuuh....
16:04 < rolla> anyone know of good place to download the source for mii-diag from ?
16:05 < huebi> rolla: moment
16:07 < huebi> ftp://ftp.scyld.com/pub/diag/mii-diag.c
16:07 < huebi> rolla: Read it till the end. Compile instructions are there.
16:09 < rolla> well that site is having trouble
16:09 < huebi> rolla: moment
16:10 < rolla> I got it now
16:10 < rolla> thanks alot
16:10 < huebi> ftp://rocklinux.dyndns.org/pub/mii-diag.c
16:10 < Mike1> *g
16:15 < [anders]> moin Mike1
16:15 * [anders] back on this screen for alittle while..
16:16 < Mike1> great
16:16 < Mike1> how are you [anders]
16:17 < [anders]> Mike1: not too bad.. feeling tired though.. all the hassle with the divorce is weighing heavily..
16:17 < Mike1> i see
16:17 < Mike1> is the new company thiny ready?
16:18 < [anders]> it'll be ready next week..
16:18 < Mike1> good
16:18 < Mike1> are you still willing to include evolution on our tree?
16:19 < [anders]> Mike1: Oh yes, I need to do some work on that however..
16:20 < [anders]> I will create the bits required and start trying to build it today...
16:20 * Mike1 is adding features to the gnome2 tree as well
16:20 < [anders]> won't commit to cvs until it works however..
16:20 < Mike1> :S
16:20 < barthel> i'ts fortunate day today ;)
16:21 < Mike1> barthel: ?
16:21 < barthel> stage5, journ. fs and now evolution ;) i need that all too ;)
16:22 < Mike1> barthel: an dthe is more comming :)
16:22 < Mike1> there*
16:23 < barthel> what's dthe ?
16:23 < Mike1> s/an dthe/ and there
16:23 < Mike1> :P
16:24 < barthel> ;))))) i'm really happy ! i say this often today ;)
16:25 * barthel fetch a coffee and come back soon ;)
16:26 < barthel> re
16:27 < barthel> hot... black... with a piece of milk... hhhmmm  ;)
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16:35 < barthel> re...
16:48 < barthel> OT: pls give me keyserver-uri's for gpg- or pgp-keys... pgp.net don't answer... :/
16:51 < [anders]> wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net
16:51 < rolla> damn
16:51 < rolla> e2fsprog still broken
16:53 < barthel> ok thx... better: host -l pgp.net | grep www
16:56 < barthel> [anders]: send me your public key... no keyserver found your key :/
16:58 < [anders]> barthel: ok.. one moment..
17:01 < [anders]> barthel: on the way..
17:02 < barthel> thx
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17:15 < d3mian> saludos
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17:17 < Mike1> salutos d3mian
17:18 < d3mian> Mike1: hola miguel, lamento mucho lo de antier..
17:24 < d3mian> no pude salir tempranno de aqui a causa de la lluvia
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17:26 < Mike1> [anders]: are already working on evolution?
17:26 < Mike1> i would like to test ur work on it even if you dont add it yet to cvs
17:28 < [anders]> Mike1: I'm off home now, but I'll get some work done on it tonight.. I have an idea what might fix things.. :)
17:29 * Mike1 is away: busy
17:30 < [anders]> Mike1: I'll read up on CVS and branches and tags.. There might be a way I can add the evolution package to cvs w/o making it available in the main branch..
17:30 < Mike1> hehe ok
17:30 < barthel> [anders]:
17:30 < huebi> [anders]: cvs tag -b - these are branch tags.
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17:34 < litost> hi everybody
17:35 < Mike1> hi litost
17:47 < barthel> hi
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19:01 < Mike1> re
19:02 < barthel> rere ;)
19:02 < bathel_> == 18:58:10 =[5]=> Building base package gimp [1.2.3 1.5.19-Gnome2]
19:02 < Mike1> barthel: looks like it will build till tyhe end :)
19:02 < bathel_> it runs a long time... but it build ;)
19:02 < Mike1> s/tyhe/the
19:02 < bathel_> i hope...
19:03 < bathel_> one week ago i start with rock ;)
19:03 < Mike1> nice one week and now you are almost finished with ur first build
19:05 < barthel> yep... and if it successf. installed i play around gnome2 and rock ;) to build THE linux distr. ;))
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19:10 * barthel fighting with tomcat 4.1.12 :/
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19:11 < _NULL> re
19:11 < Mike1> .
19:17 * Mike1 realmente è alesato 
19:24 < rxr> hi Mike1
19:25 < _NULL> hi rxr
19:25 < Mike1> hi rxr
19:26 < barthel> hi rxr
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19:33 < rolla> barthel you work with tomcat ?
19:34 < bathel_> yea *stöööhhhnnn
19:35 * bathel_ listening to 'Ton, Steine, Scherben' ;)
19:36 < barthel> yes i've to work with the tiger ;)
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19:39 < aszlig> i had to wark with tomcat, too :(
19:39 < _NULL> re
19:39 < Mike1> aszlig: whats so bad about tomcat?
19:40 < aszlig> Mike1: i don't like the java-thigies
19:40 < aszlig> s/igi/ingi/
19:40 < Mike1> ah i see
19:40 * Mike1 has never used tomcat
19:40 < litost> but you like termcap files? ;)
19:40 < aszlig> and its a mess to configure
19:41 < aszlig> litost: yes
19:41 * bathel_ i write configfiles for the tiger now ;(
19:41 * _NULL enjoying: nightwish - the kinslayer
19:41 < bathel_> UUUUUHHHHHHHHH 10 beeps :(
19:42 < _NULL> bathel_: ?
19:42 < _NULL> bathel_: are you compiling rock...?
19:43 < bathel_> yea... stage5 bonobo-activation :(
19:43 < bathel_> "/usr/bin/install: cannot stat `./html/index.sgml': No such file or directory"
19:43 < _NULL> bathel_: then the beeps are really sucking...
19:43 < bathel_> yep
19:44 < aszlig> _NULL: turn them off ;)
19:44 < bathel_> no ! for gnome2
19:45 < _NULL> aszlig: *g* yeah. of course.
19:46 < Mike1> bathel_: mmm... i have that error on my very early builds od rock-gnome2
19:46 < Mike1> also [anders]
19:46 < Mike1> i thought [anders] had fixed it.... [anders]????
19:47 < bathel_> go home ~1h ago...
19:47 < Mike1> bathel_: i didnt had that problem on this weeks build but i didnt run stage5
19:47 < bathel_> ;/
19:48 < Mike1> mail to our list
19:48 < Mike1> :)
19:48 < bathel_> i don't have a mailer on my build-computer ;/
19:49 < Mike1> 0_o
19:49 < bathel_> the files exists in the .bz2 but not in src/
19:49 < Mike1> ssh to mail server?
19:49 < Mike1> mm...
19:49 < Mike1> yeah i remember to have the problem
19:49 < bathel_> smtp by hand ;) ? the real good old school ;))
19:50 < Mike1> but [anders] was the one who fixed it, please sent the error to the list
19:50 < bathel_> i think i extract the files in the dir... what do you think ?
19:50 < Mike1> old school rulez
19:51 < bathel_> ok ;)
19:51 < Mike1> yeah give it a try
19:59 < praenti> esden: here?
19:59 < Mike1> praenti: we have finally made an ext package mirror
20:00 < praenti> Mike1: cool
20:00 < Mike1> ftp://rock.maisenhelder.net
20:00 < Mike1> brb
20:18 < barthel> Mike1: do you know the fix from [anders] ? it's a inmake="touch api-docs/html/index.sgml" in .conf file ?
20:36 < esden> hi all
20:37 < _NULL> hi esden
20:40 * Mike1 is away: having luch
20:41 < barthel> hi esden
20:43 < rxr> hi esden
20:46 < esden> hmm ... I bet to leave vim as it is ... you still can use nvi ... and it is installed as vi per default ...
20:47 < esden> hi _NULL, barthel, rxr 
20:50 < esden> hmm ... no comments on this ... 
20:50 < barthel> i don't know about the problem... but i us vim very often...
20:51 < barthel> s/us/use/g
20:53 < esden> barthel: that is the problem described in the mailinglist ... I do not want to add ... an <AOL> me too </AOL> tag there ... so I am writing it here ;-)
20:55 < barthel> ;)
20:58 < barthel> ok... i read some of the postings... i thing let it like the original conf file from the maint./developer of vim
20:59 < esden> yes ... I would leave it as it is ...
21:00 < esden> so as I said it is an AOL
21:00 < barthel> the most of configfile i've to edit and customized for my own work... why not vim ?
21:00 < esden> I use my own config ...
21:00 < esden> my config is also really big ...
21:00 < esden> or ... better .. tweaked ... ;-)
21:01 < barthel> anyone has a ~.vimrc or so they con customized this file...
21:01 < barthel> ;)
21:01 < barthel> do put it in the example-project ??
21:01 < esden> but one thing that we will have to add in 1.7 is the syntax highliting file I have written for .desc files ... ;-)
21:01 < barthel> s/do /do you/g
21:02 < esden> I have sent a patch to clifford today that is adding issues that I have created some time ago ... the thing that is missing is the desc file
21:03 < esden> barthel: I have not added it yet ... it is based on the one my friend wrote some time ago ... 
21:03 < esden> I am not sure if he added his to the project ...
21:03 < barthel> ask him and put it into...
21:05 < barthel> the example-project it at moment not really existend... 2 or 3 files :-/ for as newRocker really low ;)
21:06 < esden> hmm ... I think I missed something ... which example-project ... *confused*
21:08 < barthel> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/example-conf/
21:09 < esden> ahh ... this thing
21:09 < barthel> yep ;)
21:09 < esden> ok I will add it there ...
21:09 < barthel> ;) cool...
21:09 < barthel> thx
21:09 < esden> and my .inputrc ... and my old bashrc
21:11 < bathel_> ;)
21:16 < esden> argh ... what is creating these f***** debug messages in w3m >_< ... I will explode in some minutes .... aaaaaaarrrrrrggggghhhh
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21:16 < _NULL> esden: relax...
21:18 < barthel> keep cool esden...
21:20 * -> esden jumps around ... and kicks stuff
21:20 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:40:00)
21:20 * Mike1 snaps esden whats up???
21:21 < esden> ahhhh ... there it is !!!! this is the fscking gpm !!!
21:21 < esden> ok ... I do not need gpm support in w3m ... if someone needs it can fix the problem by himself ;-)
21:22 * -> esden calms down... 
21:22 * -> esden sits now in front of his laptop and codes
21:22 < esden> ok ... I am off ... be back tomorrow
21:23 < _NULL> bye esden. and keep cool :P
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21:23 < esden> cu guys ... the w3m packet should be sent to cliff as a patch tomorrow ... when it is avalable depends on him
21:23 < esden> cu
21:26 < rolla> Mile ?
21:26 < Mike1> ?
21:26 < barthel> yep
21:26 < barthel> cu esden say moo and keep cool
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21:51 < [anders]> bonobo-activation.. I saw the very same problem, but third or fourth re-run of trying to build it, worked.. I have no idea why it fails..
21:52 < [anders]> re all
21:53 < barthel> your words in MATHILDA's ears ;)
21:53 < [anders]> I played around with the .conf for it, but nothing I did would make the package build, and then it just built.. :-?
21:54 < barthel> i start build 5 times... :-/
21:57 < [anders]> huebi: you around?
21:58 < [anders]> Mike1: you might want to re-commit your changes to cvs, I can't seem to see them?
21:59 < [anders]> barthel: I think the problem is that in the 'inmake' step, the scripts are not cd'ing into the source archive root dir.. one moment..
22:00 < barthel> i start now a watch -n1 -d "touch dist/rock-linux/src/bonobo-activation/api-docs/html/infex.sgml" ;)
22:01 < [anders]> barthel: try chaning the line in the bonobo-activation.conf to: inmake="cd $srcdir && touch api-docs/html/index.sgml"
22:02 < [anders]> or: inmake="touch $srcdir/api-docs/html/index.sgml"
22:03 * bathel_ ÜBERLISTET ;)
22:03 < bathel_> done with watch ;)
22:04 < [anders]> hehehehehe, a hack, but it worked.. :)
22:04 < bathel_> yep
22:05 < Mike1> re
22:05 < Mike1> [anders]: ??
22:07 < s1x> rock linux script is great! it's great for downloading and making an iso for another computer, especially to me that i only have broadband conn at school
22:07 < [anders]> Mike1: for some reason your commit's seem to hang, and leave two cvs server processes and a vi /tmp/cvsblah process..
22:08 < [anders]> Mike1: I don't quite get it why, but you can try with cvs commit -m "your comment" so it doesn't spawn an editor..
22:09 < Mike1> i did
22:09 < Mike1> the cvssbla sh*t can be removed i had problems before using -m
22:09 < Mike1> :)
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22:09 < [anders]> hehehe
22:10 < [anders]> I don't know if it has something to do with network latency to where you are.. rolla doesn't seem to get that problem and I have not had it, bit we are both a little closer to where this box is..
22:10 < [anders]> s/bit/but/
22:12 < [anders]> I think I need SDSL... :-/
22:12 < [anders]> Can't really afford that at the moment though..
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22:13 < [anders]> re rxr
22:15 < [anders]> weird!! cvs update didn't pick up your mods, but cvs checkout did.... *shake head*
22:16 < barthel> read and not write access...
22:16 < [anders]> barthel: Mike has r/w axx to the cvs repository.. :)(
22:16 < [anders]> -(
22:16 < Mike1> :)
22:16 < barthel> ;)
22:17 < Mike1> [anders]: what do you think about my changes BTW
22:17 < Mike1> is just the frist part of a bunch stuff i just need to find the time to do it
22:17 < [anders]> they are good.. I will probably carry on using xscreensaver though.. :)
22:17 < Mike1> lol ok
22:17 < [anders]> Mike1: I'll hack on evolution in a bit.. Got to get prepared for the solicitor tomorrow first..
22:18 < Mike1> also i have been getting advices from some gnome people so i will be working arounmd getting very nice and featured gnome2 :)
22:18 < Mike1> [anders]: ok
22:18 < [anders]> Mike1: remember to delete the packages from ext if you move them into base.. otherwise you'll get a build-break..
22:18 < Mike1> [anders]: hehe yes i know
22:19 < Mike1> i havent remove those ones from ext btw
22:19 < Mike1> :)
22:19 < [anders]> I noticed.. ;-D
22:19 < [anders]> Hmm.. Now to read up on branches in CVS so I can in a branch add Evolution and work on it and when done merge it in to main stream..
22:20 * barthel wish a progressbar ;)
22:20 < Mike1> [anders]: mmmm so you will not allow me to play around evolution huh?
22:21 < [anders]> Mike1: I'll let you know which branch it is.. :)
22:21 < [anders]> that way you can hack on it as well..
22:21 < Mike1> ah thats much better :))
22:22 < esden> re
22:22 < esden> ok ... I have finished w3m packet
22:23 < esden> that thing is amazyng ... when you run it in xterm it even displays the craphics ... incredible!
22:23 < esden> s,craphics,graphics,
22:23 < Mike1> 0_o
22:23 < Mike1> cool
22:27 * rolla jumps for joy 
22:27 < esden> Mike do you have a 1.7 tree avalable ? You can have the patch with the w3m packet. You can test it if you want
22:27 < rolla> email is back
22:27 < esden> email is back ? can you explain what you mean with it ?
22:27 < _NULL> re esden
22:27 * -> esden is uninformed :-(
22:27 < rolla> my email server is back up
22:27 < Mike1> esden: no i dont have it, my effords are focused on the 1.5 tree
22:28 < barthel> rolla: pray MATHILDA and change the MTA ;)
22:28 < esden> rolla: ahh ... kk
22:28 < esden> I am happy for you ;-)
22:28 < Mike1> esden: but i can easily get in without 2 or 3 hours
22:28 < Mike1> esden: wanna send me the patch
22:29 < esden> Mike1: kk I send it to you mike at rocklinux dot org ?
22:29 < Mike1> esden: ack
22:29 < Mike1> rolla congratulations
22:30 < Mike1> now go kill that exchange _server?_ and load sendmail :)
22:31 < esden> Mike1: <AOL> You have mail. </AOL>
22:31 < Mike1> esden: thanks i just got it :)
22:31 < Mike1> :P
22:31 < esden> *GG*
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22:38 < esden> argh ... the fingerworx page is /.ed ... that sux
22:39 < Mike1> esden: Kiedy sa wy wracajacy do Niemiec?
22:39 < Mike1> btw my polish sucks so dont laugh
22:40 < barthel> [anders]: <AOL>your have mail</AOL>
22:42 < esden> Mike1: you mean: "Kiedy wracasz do Niemiec?" you are doing pretty well I could understand you. I go back on Tuesday. 
22:46 < Mike1> hehehe :)
22:46 < Mike1> good
22:46 < esden> rofl : https://www.courtoffside.com/images/keyboard.jpg
22:46 < esden> really good ... I nead this key !
22:46 < esden> or better keyboard with such a key
22:47 < Mike1> hehehe nice key
22:47 < Mike1> but my key kicks ass
22:47 < esden> I will hit it probably most time I am coding ;-)
22:47 < Mike1> it had a penguin in stead of the ms win flag
22:47 < Mike1> s/had/has
22:48 < esden> hmm ... I DO NOT have windows keys in my keybord ... that is even better ;-)
22:48 < Mike1> i do have penguin keys :)
22:48 < Mike1> :P
22:48 < esden> only for protocol I have not ripped them out ... my keyboard never had them ;-)
22:49 < _NULL> esden: but what do you need such a keyboar (with that key) for?
22:49 < Mike1> lol
22:49 < esden> and is ps2 ... not din ;-)
22:49 < Mike1> very nice esden
22:49 < Mike1> but the fuck it key would be cool :)
22:49 < barthel> footy1.jpg --> really AAAUUUUTTTSSSCCCCHHHH
22:50 < esden> _NULL: so I can do things with my computer you can not even imagine ;-)
22:50 < _NULL> esden: your poor computer ;P
22:51 < Mike1> esden: btw do you miss Natalie?
22:51 < esden> _NULL: I have to compensate things that I can not do with things that are intended to such things ... because they need a lot of time overhead ... 
22:51 < esden> Mike1: sure I miss her ... 
22:52 < esden> but I will see her next week ... she is missing me too for sure ....
22:52 < Mike1> yeah i am sure she does
22:54 < _NULL> esden: i c. so you need a GF which you can "aus dem schrank holen" if you need her... :P or am i wrong? ;P
22:54 < esden> hmm ... sweet: https://philip.greenspun.com/WealthClock
22:54 < esden> _NULL: yes that is it ;-)
22:55 < _NULL> esden: *lol* welcome in the club of workaholics or something like that :P
22:56 < Mike1> _NULL: CODE-AHOLICS
22:56 < _NULL> Mike1: ok. maybe that. ;)
22:57 < Mike1> i admit i am a code-aholic, i dont even sleep anymore!
22:57 < Mike1> *g
22:57 < _NULL> Mike1: then you are not a code-aholic, then you are like a zombie ;P
22:57 < snyke> hi esden
22:58 < Mike1> lol
22:58 < Mike1> hallo snyke
22:58 < _NULL> moin snyke. are you still alive?
22:59 < esden> Mike1: ACK CODE-AHOLICS also called geeks ... hackers ... or as you like ;-)
22:59 < esden> hi snyke 
22:59 < _NULL> dammit. why still can't i move? that suckz
23:00 < esden> ???
23:01 * _NULL = frustrated
23:01 < esden> what is going on owl +
23:01 < esden> ?
23:01 < _NULL> esden: nothing important. frustrated about not having BF. and seeing no sense in staying here any longer.
23:02 < Mike1> esden: would you like to be _NULL's BF?
23:02 < Mike1> even snyke
23:03 < _NULL> Mike1: i even haven't time for a BF. i want one and i don't want one
23:04 < Mike1> _NULL: you know want him :P
23:04 < _NULL> Mike1: nope!
23:05 < Mike1> is hard to believe sorry, if you would want it, you would have definitly alreayd ./kill me :PPP
23:05 < esden> Mike1: she is a nice girl but not my type sorry
23:05 < Mike1> _NULL: btw you have to make sure the he makes coffee or he will dump you in less than a week
23:06 < Mike1> esden: jk ;)
23:07 < _NULL> Mike1: dumping me?
23:07 < Mike1> leaving you
23:07 < Mike1> as you dont make coffee
23:07 < _NULL> Mike1: i c.
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23:08 < _NULL> i will never have this problem, cuz i even can't catch one. dammit
23:08 < Mike1> lol
23:08 < esden> some time it will be your time _NULL 
23:08 < Mike1> learn to make coffee and boys will come to you
23:08 < _NULL> esden: yeah. if i'm dead
23:08 < _NULL> Mike1: forget it.
23:09 * _NULL listens to: totenmond - ragnarok
23:10 < Mike1> :P
23:10 < _NULL> Mike1: ?
23:10 < Mike1> nevermind _NULLy
23:11 < _NULL> ASZLIG!!!
23:11 < _NULL> *arghlÜ
23:12 * _NULL 's going to kill aszlig right now...
23:12 * barthel hate UTF-8 <--> UNICODE <--> LOCALE ...
23:12 < _NULL> sorry...
23:12 < Mike1> :)
23:12 * snyke shoots
23:13 < esden> _NULL: why do you want to kill him ?
23:13 < Mike1> hehe
23:13 < _NULL> snyke: shooting him?
23:13 < _NULL> s/him/aszlig
23:14 < _NULL> esden: cuz i have connection to one of his servers and i'm compiling a program... and now my ssh-connectoin got killed. not so fun
23:14 < esden> what are you searching on servers of aszlig ?
23:14 < esden> are you hacking them ?
23:14 < _NULL> nope
23:14 < esden> bad girl ;-)
23:14 < _NULL> *ggg*
23:15 * Mike1 scared getting ready to plug off lan cable in case _NULL hacks him
23:16 < _NULL> *ggg* i won't hack you. i even wouldn't have enough knowledge for hacking your system
23:24 < esden> aha .. Mike1 be aware she only wants to lowery your caution .. so she can easier enter your system ;-)
23:24 < Mike1> esden i know
23:24 < Mike1> she has probably gained access already
23:25 < _NULL> Mike1: ?
23:25 < Mike1> or is even making the ping of death ot my box
23:25 < esden> arrgh ... I see owls image on my laptop screen ... help !!!! she hacked my box !!!!
23:25 < esden> owl ... get off my box !!!
23:25 < _NULL> esden: *lol*
23:25 < esden> hmm .. image gone ... what is she doing .. now
23:25 < Mike1> esden: yeah owl and her pink laptop are evil
23:25 < esden> I better go off now
23:26 < _NULL> esden: faule ausrede ;P
23:26 < esden> yes ... they are surely evil
23:26 < _NULL> yeah of course ;P
23:26 < Mike1> yes esden run before she formats ur drive
23:26 * -> esden runs
23:27 < esden> owl and her little kitty laptop ... *shivvers*
23:27 < esden> cu all
23:27 < _NULL> esden: you better should fear the running NULL pointer to disaster... :P
23:27 < Mike1> cu esdy
23:27 < _NULL> bye esden
23:27 < barthel> cu esden... moo
23:28 * barthel ~70 packages till end of build ;)
23:29 < _NULL> barthel: beep. beep. beep. beep. beep. beep. beep. beep. beep. beep.
23:29 < _NULL> building failed...
23:30 < barthel> _NULL: *ggggrrrrrr
23:30 * snyke shoots
23:30 * barthel frißt alles was beep macht !
23:30 < snyke> beep
23:30 < _NULL> *lol*
23:30 * snyke shoots barthel
23:30 * snyke hides
23:30 < barthel> snyke: :-[              ]
23:31 * _NULL shoots snyke
23:31 * snyke shoooooooooots
23:31 < _NULL> yeah. kill me!
23:31 < snyke> *bruuuuuuu* *bruuuuuuu* Ich bin eine Taube. *bruuuuuuu* *bruuuuuuu*
23:31 < barthel> *loll peng ;)
23:31 < snyke> pff
23:32 * _NULL falls down to earth and dies. 
23:32 < barthel> snyke: luft raus ?
23:33 < Mike1> _NULL: got something nicer for barthel
23:33 < Mike1> _NULL: try this...
23:33 < Mike1> while [ 1 = 1 ] ; do
23:33 < Mike1> ` echo -en \\007 ; sleep 1 ; echo -en \\007 ; sleep 1`
23:33 < Mike1> done
23:36 < Mike1> btw remove the "`"
23:36 < [anders]> huebi: here?
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23:48 < [anders]> <- sleep
23:49 < Mike1> nacht [anders]
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