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--- Log opened Fri Oct 04 00:00:30 2002 --- Day changed Fri Oct 04 2002 00:47 < Mike1> bye all 00:47 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 00:50 -!- d4wn [~ceduardo@63.101.133.12] has joined #rocklinux 00:51 -!- d4wn [~ceduardo@63.101.133.12] has left #rocklinux ("Aplicación Saliendo") 00:56 * barthel is away: I'm busy or sleep or whatever ;) 00:57 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5952.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 00:57 < owl> re 00:57 < capchaos> hi owl 00:58 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@77-238.M.dial.o-tel-o.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Nickname Enforcement))) 00:58 -!- owl is now known as _NULL 00:58 < _NULL> hi capchaos 00:58 < bathel_> immer noch nicht im bett ? 00:59 < _NULL> bathel_: nope. no time 00:59 < capchaos> _NULL: what are you working on? 00:59 < bathel_> ;) 01:00 < bathel_> <- sleep, dream... bye folkz 01:00 < capchaos> nite bathel_ 01:00 < _NULL> capchaos: right now i'm trying to complete the installation of postfix... and if my network wouldn't have had a crash, then i might would have been able to do this... *arghl* 01:00 < _NULL> bye bathel_ 01:03 < capchaos> _NULL: why not use sendmail=? 01:04 < _NULL> capchaos: me was told that postfix is more fast and featured than sendmail 01:05 < capchaos> _NULL: you're installing it on rocklinux, right? ;) 01:05 < _NULL> yeah. afaik yes. (it's not my system i'm installing it...) 01:06 < capchaos> you don't know the system you're installing it, huh? 01:06 < _NULL> ;) yes... 01:06 < capchaos> heh 01:06 < _NULL> ;) 01:06 -!- bathel_ [~barthel@pD9E87DE2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.1") 01:14 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-171-20.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 01:30 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-168-25.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:51 < _NULL> gn8. cu 01:51 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5952.pppool.de] has quit ("_NULL moving herself into her bed ;)") 02:02 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@p50817AA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:11 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:14 < capchaos> re Ge0rG 02:14 < Ge0rG> re 02:27 -!- s1x [~tiago@213.58.18.92] has joined #rocklinux 02:42 -!- capchaos [johnny_fra@pD904856B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 03:11 -!- s1x [~tiago@213.58.18.92] has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:11 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-170-27.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 03:20 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-171-20.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:38 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit ("Ich lebe nur weiter, weil es bergab geht und ich nicht in die Pedale treten muss") 03:42 -!- hackbard_ [~hackbard@pD9E0A64C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:00 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0A254.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:51 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-170-88.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 06:08 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-170-27.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06:25 -!- [anders] [anders@62.3.122.161] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:05 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 08:03 < huebi> moin 08:10 -!- term_emu [~pm@p508193D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:12 < term_emu> morning 08:39 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 08:39 < d3mian> hi 09:28 -!- xlock [~jma@rkom.r-kom.de] has quit ("leaving") 09:44 * barthel is back (gone 08:48:18) 09:44 < barthel> moin moin 10:06 < barthel> anybody awake ? 10:07 < d3mian> . 10:14 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 10:26 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E392A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:35 -!- Freak [freak@p50839835.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:25 < rxr> hi Freak 11:26 * -> esden awake ... but afk ... /me needs his fixed line back >_< 11:26 < esden> cu all 11:27 < d3mian> hi esden, Freak , zer0_o^ , rxr 11:41 < Freak> lalala 11:41 < Freak> hi guys 11:41 < barthel> <- lunch ;) 11:41 * barthel is away: I'm busy or sleep or whatever ;) 12:35 * barthel is back (gone 00:53:35) 13:08 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:10 < th> hmmm can't find ucspi-tcp man pages... web has thousands of man2html pages of tcpserver(1) but i can't find the manpage 13:14 -!- Sch0rSch [georg@op-co.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:15 -!- Ge0rG [georg@op-co.de] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: Sch0rSch!georg@op-co.de))) 13:15 -!- Sch0rSch is now known as Ge0rG 13:20 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:20 < tsa> moin. 13:26 < barthel> moin;) 13:27 < tsa> hi barthel 13:30 -!- Netsplit vinge.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: huebi, fake, hackbard_, th, rxr 13:30 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rxr, hackbard_, huebi, th, fake 13:44 -!- [anders]_ [anders@62.3.122.161] has joined #rocklinux 13:45 < tsa> hi [anders]_ 13:56 < barthel> hi [anders]_ ;) 13:56 < barthel> build finished ;))))))))))) 14:05 < tsa> hehe 14:13 -!- [anders] [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has joined #rocklinux 14:13 < [anders]> narf! 14:13 < tsa> hehe 14:13 < tsa> re [anders] 14:13 < [anders]> moin tsa.. :) 14:15 -!- [anders] [~guest@imhotep.hursley.ibm.com] has quit ("brb") 14:15 -!- [anders]_ is now known as [anders] 14:15 < [anders]> re 14:15 < tsa> ;) 14:15 < barthel> re ;) 14:16 < [anders]> barthel: good stuff.. you already cut a CD and are installing with it? :) 14:17 < barthel> no... i'm only build packages... 14:17 < barthel> it was a test... now i do it again and build a ISO... 14:18 < barthel> 1 week ago i start with playing rock... ;) 14:18 < [anders]> barthel: ok.. I'm going to be hacking on evolution this weekend I think, apart from saturday when I am driving to and from the Midlands. Only 275km each way or so.. 14:18 < barthel> now i've the first build... a long time... 14:19 < barthel> ;) 14:20 < [anders]> heh.. I remember when I built ROCK 1.4.0.. That was my last build for a loooong time.. About a year and a half or something like that... 14:20 < barthel> how i update my running system with my building packages now ? 14:21 < barthel> without destroying my config's... 14:22 < [anders]> that I do not know.. 14:23 < [anders]> As always, make a backup first.. :) 14:23 < barthel> hhhmmm... 14:23 < barthel> esden, huebi, others ? 14:25 < esden> re 14:26 < barthel> how i update my running system with my building packages now ? 14:26 < barthel> without destroying my config's... 14:26 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p5090936A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("[BX] I came, I saw, I ran away screaming") 14:30 < esden> ok .. gqview patch sent to cliff ... so gqview is back under rock linux packages ;-) 14:31 -!- Netsplit vinge.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, barthel, term_emu, zer0_o^, d3mian, simon, tsa 14:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tsa, zer0_o^, d3mian, term_emu, barthel, rolla, simon 14:31 < esden> barthel: in 1.5 or 1.7 ? 14:31 -!- Netsplit vinge.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: zer0_o^ 14:32 -!- Netsplit over, joins: zer0_o^ 14:32 -!- Netsplit vinge.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, barthel, term_emu, simon, d3mian, tsa 14:32 < esden> argh 14:33 < snyke> MAN DOWN 14:33 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tsa, d3mian, term_emu, barthel, rolla, simon 14:33 < snyke> :) 14:33 < barthel> 1.5.19 14:33 < esden> we have to change irc network 14:33 < esden> >_< 14:33 < esden> that really sux here ... 14:33 < barthel> esden: 1.5.19 14:33 < esden> barthel: pkg-update ? 14:34 < esden> it is not touching anything in /etc 14:34 < esden> so your configs should remain untouched 14:34 < barthel> ah ok... but pkg-update tar-file [tar-file...] 14:37 -!- Netsplit vinge.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rolla, barthel, term_emu, simon, d3mian, tsa 14:37 < esden> yes ... you have to use tar files .. 14:37 < esden> argh !!!!! 14:38 < esden> I will explode ... if it continues ... 14:38 < esden> -lilo(lilo@lilo.staff.freenode)- [Global Notice] Hi all. We're going to rehub a main rotation server. Please 14:38 < esden> bear with us. 14:38 < esden> bla bla bla 14:38 < esden> on and on and on ... 14:38 < esden> all the time ... 14:38 < esden> grrr 14:39 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:39 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 14:39 -!- term_emu [~pm@p508193D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:39 -!- barthel [~barthel@62.206.249.2] has joined #rocklinux 14:39 -!- rolla [~Der@134.244.181.87] has joined #rocklinux 14:39 -!- simon [189c3724c4@62.140.27.4] has joined #rocklinux 14:39 < esden> re guys 14:39 < barthel> suckz ! 14:39 < esden> we really should seriously think about changing the irc network 14:39 < esden> or use our own irc server ... 14:40 < esden> then I know that when there are errors ... who I should hit/kick 14:40 < esden> lilo is too far away ;-) 14:42 < esden> updating from sources ... is also possible some way .. but I really can not say how ... when I update I backup the configs myself .. remove the packet with pkg-remove ... and then I make ./scripts/Build-Pkg 14:42 < esden> that is the way I do it here on my laptop ... 14:42 < esden> but how it is with a server I really can not say ... I still use debian on my server because I had no opportunity to change it till now ... 14:43 < barthel> i've install rock from iso-image and now i would like fock-gnome2... there a lot of packages :/ 14:43 < barthel> ;) 14:43 < barthel> i use it on my workstation... i understand you ;) 14:44 < esden> in 1.7 there is ./scripts/Update-System ... and I heard that it works pretty well ... but I really do not know how it works with a 1.5 system 14:44 < barthel> i need a apt-get dist-update for rock... 14:44 < esden> barthel: ./scripts/Update-System is something like this ... but avalable in 1.7 and not 1.5 14:45 < esden> you can dig in it ... to see how and how good it works 14:45 < esden> I have not tested it yet 14:45 * barthel missing a packagemanagement ;/ 14:45 < barthel> ;) 14:45 < barthel> ok... i build an iso and then checkout 1.7... 14:45 < esden> as I said ... these features will be avalable in 1.7 ... 14:46 < esden> kk 14:46 < barthel> thx 14:46 < esden> denada ;-) 14:47 < esden> ok ... I am off again 14:47 < barthel> how the roadmap of 1.7 ? 14:48 < esden> hmm ... the first usable alpha versian of it ... should be there in december on 19C3 14:49 < barthel> and beta and stable ? 14:49 < esden> but if you are hard and brave enough ... you can install it already now ... some people have done it ... I run a 1.5 1.7 hybrid system on my laptop 14:49 < barthel> ;) 14:49 < esden> barthel: that is unpredictable ... when it is ready ... I would say 14:49 < barthel> ;) ok... ;) 14:50 < esden> barthel: co 1.7 and take a look in it ... then you can say if it is already something for you ... ;-) 14:51 < barthel> yep... 14:51 < esden> and do not hesitate to ask questions here an channel ... and/or on the mailinglist ... 14:52 < esden> but prior to thins try to read the documentation .. and source ... ;-) 14:53 < esden> cu all 14:57 < barthel> cu 15:02 < barthel> [anders]: is the cvs down ? 15:04 < [anders]> barthel: no, it should be available now.. 15:05 < barthel> [anders]: i run cvs up only in galeon-dir... but nothing comming... 15:05 < barthel> [anders]: timeout error 15:06 < [anders]> barthel, that is because it is in a branch.. and it will not build either.. 15:06 < [anders]> and also, someone is downloading an ISO, so the link gets a bit slow then.. 15:06 -!- barthel_ [~barthel@pD9E871C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:08 < barthel> [anders]: which branch i've to checkout to build galeon ? 15:08 < rolla> re all 15:08 < barthel_> re rolla ;) 15:10 < barthel> [anders]: i drilled the tiger ;) 15:10 < barthel> s/[anders]/rolla/g 15:12 < [anders]> barthel: I posted instructions to the mailinglist last night about it.. :) 15:13 < barthel> [anders]: i thought it was for evolution... ok i read it carrfully again ;) 15:16 < rolla> yeah I saw that anders is your machine up again ? 15:16 < [anders]> uhm.. my bad, I misread galeon as evolution.. tired today.. 15:16 < [anders]> rolla: yeah, since 12:44 BST.. 15:17 < rolla> cool 15:17 < [anders]> galeon should be in the main tree.. 15:17 < barthel_> cool ;) 15:17 < [anders]> someone is pulling an ISO from it at the moment though, so the latency is horrendous.. 15:18 < rolla> yeah I know that fun 15:21 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 15:21 < Mike1> h 15:21 < Mike1> i 15:21 < [anders]> moin Mike1 15:21 < Mike1> god morgon [anders] :) 15:21 < barthel> h 15:21 < barthel> i 15:21 < [anders]> <- lagging badly.. 15:21 < barthel> M 15:21 < barthel> i 15:21 < barthel> k 15:21 < barthel> e 15:21 < barthel> 1 15:21 < barthel> ;) 15:21 < Mike1> :) 15:22 < rolla> Mike 15:22 < Mike1> hi rolla 15:23 * Mike1 is fscking falling asleep !! 15:26 < barthel_> <- reboot new rock-gnome2... 15:26 < rolla> sweet 15:26 * barthel_ pray to MATHILDA and hope 15:26 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E78D3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:26 -!- barthel_ [~barthel@pD9E871C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.1") 15:26 < martin_> hi al 15:26 < Mike1> hehehe 15:26 < martin_> hi all, hi rxr 15:26 < Mike1> hi martin_ 15:26 < martin_> hi Mike1 15:29 * Mike1 wonders why barthel is taking so long to come back 15:30 < barthel> fschk... / not clean unmounted ;/ 15:30 * Mike1 guesses he didnt compile his kernel and doesnt have support for his lan :) 15:30 < Mike1> ah :) 15:30 * barthel setup ext3 15:32 < Mike1> ok guys i must get off irc for 1/2 a bit see you later 15:32 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 15:32 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E78D3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 15:33 < blindcoder> hi all 15:35 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:44 < barthel> [anders]: how do i start gnome2 ? :/ 15:44 < rolla> ;) 15:54 < tsa> barthel: /path/to/gnome-session ;) 15:55 < barthel> yea.. gnome-session --version 1.4.1 ... 15:55 < barthel> i've gnome2 not really installed... i think ;( 15:58 < tsa> wrong gnome-session, it seems. 15:58 < tsa> /opt/gnome2/bin/gnome-session ? 15:58 < barthel> no file or directory... 15:59 < tsa> hm..where did you install your gnome2 stuff, then? 16:00 < barthel> i build it and run pkg-install * 16:01 < tsa> on rock 1.5? 16:01 < tsa> or 1.7? 16:01 < barthel> 1.5 16:01 < tsa> uhm. 16:01 < tsa> you should ask mike1 then, he should know. 16:01 < barthel> yep ;) 16:02 < tsa> i'm not too much involved with 1.5 nowadays.. 16:02 < tsa> spending too much time with 1.7 ;) 16:06 < barthel> tsa: it's possible to port the 'packagemanagement' to 1.5 ? do you know about that ? 16:06 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 16:07 < Mike1> re 16:08 < barthel> tsa: it's possible to port the 'packagemanagement' to 1.5 ? do you know about that ? 16:09 < [anders]> barthel: uhm.. /usr/bin/gnome-session should be for gnome2 16:10 < barthel> i'm really stupid ! i've pfg-instal _._ * the root-dir is NOT . :/ 16:10 < barthel> s/pfg-/pkg/g 16:13 < rolla> how is rock for ultra sparc ? 16:13 < barthel> rolla: cool ? ;) 16:15 < Mike1> rolla rock is running under Ultra Sparc 16:15 < Mike1> but it has been tested to run only base without opt and ext 16:15 < Mike1> sparc32 port is currently under development 16:16 < rolla> okay 16:16 < rolla> I want a iso for ultrasparc 16:16 < rolla> I have a sun blade 1000 here that needs rock ;) 16:16 < Mike1> i have a couple of 1.5.12 isos which i made when i had an Ultra 5 16:16 < Mike1> Sun Blade 1000 ?? OMG 16:16 < Mike1> you got one of those 16:17 < esden> re hi 16:17 < Mike1> rolla perhaps send an email to armijn he does have the latest isos for sparc64 16:17 < rolla> yeah under my desk at work 16:17 < Mike1> hi esden 16:17 < esden> argh ... cvs is sooo slooow .. >_< 16:18 < esden> hi Mike1 16:18 < Mike1> esden actually the cvs is ok but ur conection sucks :P 16:18 < rxr> re 16:18 < Mike1> you have to get back to DE soon 16:18 < esden> that too ... but it is not really faster when I am on a faster connection ... 16:18 < Mike1> hi rxr 16:18 < Mike1> mmm i see 16:18 < esden> hmm ... let me see if my box at home is online ;-) 16:19 < Mike1> :) 16:19 < esden> Welcome to OpenBSD: 16:19 < esden> cool my router is online ! 16:19 < esden> that is good ;-) 16:20 < rxr> esden: your router is not running ROCK ? 16:20 < Mike1> i thought it was netBSD 16:21 < blindcoder> hi esden 16:21 < esden> rxr: nope ... cuz I wanted to test openbsd ... and that was a good oportunity ... and I still wait that someone cleans the router target up 16:21 < esden> hi blindcoder 16:21 < rxr> ah ... 16:22 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B55c0.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:22 < _NULL> hi 16:22 < esden> ok ... the update is finished ... 16:22 < esden> hi null 16:22 < rxr> my router is dRock-1.4.0-dev + security updates ... 16:22 < blindcoder> hi owly! 16:22 < _NULL> hi esden, blindcoder 16:22 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 16:22 < armijn> re 16:23 < armijn> hi rolla 16:23 < Mike1> re? 16:23 < _NULL> hi armijn 16:23 < rolla> ja 16:23 < armijn> rolla: first you will have to install a Linux distribution on your blade 16:23 < rolla> okay other than debian what is the best ? 16:24 < armijn> I installed aurora on my sparcstation 20 this week 16:24 < armijn> it's red hat based 16:24 < Mike1> hi armijn 16:24 < armijn> gentoo might also be a good choice 16:24 < armijn> hi mike1 16:24 < armijn> hi _NULL 16:24 < rolla> okay 16:24 < rolla> where might i find aurora ? 16:24 < Mike1> rolla: gentoo is evil got for splack 16:24 < armijn> https://auroralinux.org/ 16:25 < armijn> splack is also an option 16:25 < rxr> armijn: aurora linux crashed on my U5 during the installation 16:25 < rolla> I will try this aurora 16:25 < rxr> with version 0.3.0 and 0.3.x ... 16:25 < Mike1> rxr: what distro are you running currently? 16:25 < Mike1> on ur Ultra 5 i mean 16:25 < armijn> rxr: so I installed 0.4 ;-) 16:26 < rolla> 5 disks wow 16:26 < armijn> rolla: you'll need the first 2 16:26 < rolla> good 16:27 < rxr> Mike1: rock 1.5.x of Jan ... 16:27 < rxr> + xfree hacks ... 16:27 < rolla> this should be cool :) 16:27 < rxr> and I'll rebuild using the ROCK 1.7 scripts in the next days ... 16:27 < armijn> rolla: 1.5.19 needs a few tweaks, otherwise it won't build correctly... 16:28 < rolla> okay 16:28 < armijn> still need to send in some patches 16:28 < rolla> once I get it download and installed I shall talk to you about best rock for the box 16:28 < armijn> well, to be honest, I never tried 1.7 16:28 < armijn> so I am totally biased... 16:29 < rxr> armijn: I'm currently fixing our Build-CrossCC for the gcc-3.2 ... 16:29 < armijn> rxr: also as the kernel compiler? 16:29 < armijn> good luck. 16:29 < rolla> fine by me 16:29 < rxr> armijn: we already discussed this very often ... - Yes. The gcc-3.2 works fine - especially as kernel compiler. 16:30 < armijn> haha.. 16:30 * armijn quotes an e-mail from David Miller (sparc64 maintainer) from october 2 16:31 < armijn> "Don't use gcc-3.2 to build the kernel. It has known problems" 16:32 < armijn> now...whom should I believe? The kernel maintainer? Or rxr? 16:32 < rxr> armijn: I already posted some months ago - that D.S.M. said it should work - but he would prefer bug reports with the old one ... 16:32 < esden> armijn: the maintainer ... you also should not compile c++ programs with it ... I had a really "good" experiance with it ... 16:33 < armijn> esden: exactly 16:33 < rxr> esden: C++? With the gcc-3.2 ? 16:33 < esden> 3.2 is buggy like hell ... and that are really very obvious bugs ... 16:33 < armijn> what you guys do with 1.7 is your choice, but 1.5 will use egcs64 16:33 < esden> rxr: yes C++ 16:33 < armijn> otherwise, I'm out :) 16:33 < _NULL> aszlig: are you here? 16:33 < rxr> esden: No! It is the best compilier for C++ I know of ... 16:34 < rxr> maybe your source was not C++ ... 16:34 < armijn> hmm...the intel C++ compiler for linux performs better 16:34 < esden> rxr: believe what you want to believe .. but try to compile the newest wvstreams (out of wvdial) and you will see the bugs 16:35 < esden> I know what I say ... /me not stupid 16:35 < rxr> esden: this is not a believe. I do much C++ and GCC 3.2 is magnitues more advanced ... 16:35 < rxr> that wvdial is not C++ might be another issue ... 16:36 < esden> wvdial is C++ my friend ... go inform you and we can talk then ... 16:36 < armijn> but still, the egcs64 vs. gcc 3-2 is a non-issue for me... 16:36 < rxr> esden: I know that it is buggy C++ ... 16:36 < rxr> the source is defect. 16:36 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C646.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:37 < esden> nope ... it is a gcc problem ... If you can tell me how to fix the bug in wvstreams not fixing gcc then tell me you will get a symbolic price of 3.75 eur 16:38 < rxr> esden: ok. I just powered on my gcc32 laptop ... 16:38 < esden> good 16:38 * Mike1 away 16:38 < esden> you can email me 16:38 < esden> modem is expensive 16:38 < esden> cu guys 16:39 < _NULL> by esden 16:42 < armijn> ok, am off 16:42 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 16:49 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:50 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 16:52 < Mike1> re 16:57 * barthel crashed... power down... libc6 damaged :( no journ. fs... return to start :( 16:58 < rxr> qhm 16:58 < _NULL> hi barthel. still compiling? 10 beeps? 16:58 < rxr> wvdial compiles with a 4 and 1/2 line patch just created by me ... 16:59 < barthel> _NULL: no :( rebuild me mashine... libc6 and other are damaged by powerlost 16:59 < Mike1> _NULL: sure he even made a fix now in stead if 10 beep it does... 16:59 < Mike1> while [ 1 = 1 ] ; do 16:59 < Mike1> echo -en \\007 ; sleep 1 ; echo -en \\007 ; sleep 1 16:59 < Mike1> done 17:00 < _NULL> barthel: uh. dammit. that suckz 17:00 < barthel> yep :,( 17:00 < _NULL> Mike1: *argh* 17:09 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-mu-3-1-dialup-47.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 17:10 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-mu-3-1-dialup-47.freesurf.ch] has quit (Client Quit) 17:23 < rolla> https://www.theonion.com/onion3836/riaa_sues_radio_stations.html 17:24 < huebi> << 17:24 < huebi> re 17:24 < Mike1> hi huebi 17:24 < huebi> hi Mike1 17:25 < _NULL> moin huebi 17:25 < huebi> hi _NULL 17:25 < _NULL> huebi: how are you ? 17:25 < barthel> hi huebi 17:26 < huebi> _NULL: fine. Just tested our new car ;-))) 17:26 < Mike1> huebi: i am going to modify vim.conf now 17:26 < huebi> Mike1: yes, do i. ;-) 17:26 < huebi> +t 17:26 < huebi> hi barthel 17:28 < _NULL> huebi: *g* what car? 17:28 < huebi> '98 BMW 325tds touring 17:29 < Mike1> huebi: nice! 17:30 < huebi> Mike1: Yes it is. I have big fun with it. 17:30 < Mike1> i am definitly sure you do :) 17:30 < blindcoder> rolla: sw33t... the problem is that I think RIAA is really actually up to something like that :) 17:30 < rolla> :) 17:30 < rolla> huebi sweet car 17:31 < Mike1> Checking in base-config/vim/vim.conf; 17:31 < Mike1> /home/rockcvs/cvs/rock-1.5/base-config/vim/vim.conf,v <-- vim.conf 17:31 < Mike1> new revision: 1.7; previous revision: 1.6 17:31 < Mike1> done 17:31 < Mike1> ok guys we now use vim defaults cp lines have been removed 17:32 < rolla> huebi: you like bmw's ? 17:32 < blindcoder> good thing :) 17:32 < huebi> rolla: Yes. and really fast. here on the "Autobahn" I got it to over 200km/h (130mph) 17:32 < rolla> you suck 17:32 < rolla> I have 2001 325ci 17:32 < rolla> my wife has 2002 325i 17:32 < rolla> very good cars 17:32 < huebi> rolla: Yes, I do. 17:32 * blindcoder has a nice Seat Ibiza and is happy with it :) 17:32 < rolla> but you get to buy nice desil 17:33 * [anders] is getting a '96 VW Golf VR6 in about three weeks... 17:33 < rolla> you people in europe get to buy all the nice cars :( 17:33 < huebi> rolla: Yes, they are. Much better than Mercedes 17:33 < rolla> ja and cost less 17:33 < rolla> I want a 330d 17:33 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off for the rest of the day. 17:33 < blindcoder> bye 17:33 * Mike1 got mountain bike :) 17:34 < [anders]> A 330d would be really nice, they are a tad expensive here in UK though.. 17:34 < rolla> in UK everything is expensive 17:34 < huebi> In about 4 months I'm going to bye a 740iLA. The long version. It will cost about 13000 EUR. 17:34 < [anders]> but best of all would be a M3.. I can not afford the insurance however.. 17:34 < rolla> you guys pay 30% over what the rest of the world pays 17:35 < rolla> what year ? 17:35 < [anders]> rolla: tell me about it.. 17:35 < huebi> 1996- 1998 17:35 < rolla> yes a M3 would be nice but I don't have the 52K (US) to buy it 17:35 < rolla> sweet 17:35 < rolla> if I went to canada it would cost 40k (US) 17:36 < rolla> BMW NA sucks the big one for pricing :( 17:36 < huebi> rolla: Bye a used one even from Europe. These Sportscars loose 30% in the first year. 17:38 < rolla> yeah but the shipping would be hell 17:38 < rolla> plus getting is federalized would kill it 17:41 < huebi> sometimes there are also use BMWs avaliable with US specs here in germany 17:41 < rolla> yeah but still shipping hurts :( 17:41 < rolla> oh well enjoy your nice car 17:42 < Mike1> eupean bmw's kick ass 17:42 < Mike1> european even 17:44 * [anders] has a friend who is thinking about putting NOS in his old M3. (from the 80's sometime.) 17:44 < Mike1> COOL 17:45 < rolla> NOS kills cars 17:46 * rolla has to call england 17:47 < huebi> [anders]: I've broken about 6 engines with NOS. If he has much money he can do that but it's something only for dragsters. 17:47 < rolla> yes 17:48 < huebi> I got about 5 times the power out of the engine after I broke the 5th one *g* 17:49 < huebi> The compression rate had to go down to 1:6 to 1:7 instead of 1:10 to 1:12 17:49 < rolla> grin 17:54 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:04 -!- barthel_ [~barthel@62.206.249.2] has joined #rocklinux 18:05 < rolla> qt takes forever to build 18:05 < barthel_> re 18:07 < Mike1> rolla ack 18:08 < Mike1> rolla qt stage 5? 18:09 < [anders]> qt takes about 45 minutes for me on a XP1900+ with 512MB RAM 18:10 < Mike1> arrgg 18:18 < rolla> yeah 18:21 < [anders]> hometime.. will work on Evolution this weekend.. Sunday probably.. 18:22 < Mike1> [anders]: btw i am consuming a little of ur bandwidth 18:22 < Mike1> getting ur latest iso 18:22 < Mike1> i am moving more extensions to base today 18:22 * [anders] noticed.. latency is baaaaaad.. 18:22 < Mike1> and including gnome2 extension to rock-.1.5.19 18:23 < Mike1> sorry but i will finish fast 18:23 * [anders] adding QoS and traffic shaping to ToDo list.. 18:23 < Mike1> :) 18:23 < Mike1> hehe 18:23 < Mike1> mmm 11k 18:24 < Mike1> it will take me all day 18:24 < Mike1> ah well 18:24 < Mike1> :P 18:48 < huebi> 18:23 * [anders] adding QoS and traffic shaping to ToDo list.. <- Noew in the new default kernel configuration. 18:51 < Mike1> huebi: cool 18:51 < Mike1> huebi: have you commit the new kernel stuff? 18:56 < rolla> qt still sucks 18:56 < Mike1> hehe 19:16 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B55c0.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:16 < rolla> bye Null 19:19 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5906.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:19 < _NULL> re 19:20 * barthel_ <- come back in 3h 19:21 * barthel_ is away: I'm busy or sleep or whatever ;) 19:23 -!- litost [~stephen@ajc224-197.ajc.com] has joined #rocklinux 19:23 < Mike1> hi Stephen 19:24 < litost> hey Miguel, how are you? 19:24 < Mike1> i am great thanks ! :) 19:24 < Mike1> and you? 19:24 < litost> awesome!...can't wait to leave work :) 19:24 < Mike1> hehe 19:25 < Mike1> partying tonight? 19:25 < litost> nah, probably not. i'm a little low on cash 19:25 < litost> so i think i'm gonna stay home and try to spend some time learning opengl :) 19:25 < Mike1> ah well you stay on and study about sparc v9 :) 19:26 < litost> that too! 19:27 < litost> i have this idea of creating some insanely threaded opengl app to benchmark the new nptl 19:28 < Mike1> 0_o 19:48 < esden> hi all 19:49 < _NULL> rehi esden 19:49 < rxr> hi esden 19:49 < rxr> you read the mail ? ;-) 19:49 < Mike1> re esden 19:49 < esden> not yet 19:49 < esden> moment 19:50 < esden> ok ... that is what I meant ... the const value 19:50 < esden> ok ... I recognized that too ... but it looks more like gcc is ignoring the const value ... otherwise it would bring an error 19:51 < esden> or am I wrong ? 19:51 < rxr> esden: this is only the second "big" C++ bug in gcc-3.2 ... - and it suports many many many more ANSI C++ features ... 19:52 < rxr> esden: the g++ seems to be unable to sort the signature into the right place in the namespace ... 19:52 < esden> hehe ... I have not said that gcc-3.2 is bad ... i said that it is buggy ... otherwise such big bugs would not appear 19:52 < esden> ;-) 19:52 < rxr> it is not a BIG bug ... 19:52 < esden> yes that is what I thought too 19:52 < esden> ok .. ok 19:53 < esden> not a big bug ... a bug ;-) 19:53 < rxr> ack 19:53 < esden> I am not really familiar with the gcc code ... and I had no time to review this 19:53 < esden> otherwise I would fix it 19:53 < Mike1> https://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/10/04/virus.bugbear/index.html 19:54 < rxr> currently the GCC people rewrite the whole C++ parser because they concluded that with the current one they will never be able to fix all of such little subtele bugs .. 19:54 < esden> I have also downloaded the cvs version of 3.2 19:54 < esden> there is no fix 19:54 < esden> and in the bugtracker there is no mention abouth this 19:54 < esden> aha ... I did not know that ... 19:55 < esden> so let them rewrite it ... and when they are ready we can use it in productive use 19:55 < esden> namely 1.5 1.6 19:55 < rxr> it is not yet in the official bruch ... 19:55 < esden> in 1.7 it is other thing ... 1.7 is devel ... so we also can use unstable tools 19:56 < rxr> the rewrite will be merged in a future version 19:56 < esden> yes .. so as you said ... they can not fix all bugs till they rewrote the parser 19:56 < rxr> the gcc-3.2 is stable (with the usual tiny bugs ... - but much more stable then 2.95.3 ...) 19:56 < esden> hmm ... I never had such problems with 2.95.3 ... sorry ... 19:56 < rxr> but remeber that gcc-2.95.3 has many more bugs and tons of missing features ... 19:57 < esden> hmm ... ok ... 19:57 < rxr> esden: let me guess - you never used C++ seriously ? 19:57 < rxr> when Valentin and I developed the basics of GSMP - we had ro work around a bug after another ... 19:57 < esden> nope ... I did not have to ... but all programs that use C++ are currently running without problems with 1.95.3 19:58 < esden> i mean 2.95.3 19:58 < esden> but they break with 3.2 19:58 < rxr> wow - they are developed with 2.95.3. But when you compile the programs with 3.x or an commercial compiler you have to fix much , because gcc-2.95.3 is not ANSI C++ 19:58 < esden> that is prooven ... in the example I showed you ... 19:59 * barthel_ is back (gone 00:38:39) 19:59 < esden> and the fix you are bringing me ... is a plug the whole fix ... not make the whole dissapear 19:59 < rxr> it simply does not use the correct syntax - that is why you have (e.g.) modify all the friend and template definitions ... 20:00 < rxr> esden: sure it is a work-around. But all the existing programs already have many of such things to make the code work with 2.95.3 ... 20:01 < esden> hmm ... ok ... 20:01 < rxr> in GSMP we even had many GCC_SUCKS_XYZ classes which worked around bugs ..,. 20:01 < esden> I will use this workaround ... for now ... and try to see if I find the right place in gcc3 to fix it ... 20:02 < esden> if you could me help with this I would really appreciate ... I do not want to discuss something that does not need a discussion 20:02 < esden> what we have to do ... is to fix the problem the one way or another ... 20:02 < rxr> esden: we both might not know enought of gcc internals. 20:02 < esden> yes ... 20:03 < esden> so perhups ask the gcc developers ? 20:03 < esden> what do you think ? 20:03 < rxr> the best would be to write a simple code fragment which can reproduce this and put it into the bug-tracking system of GCC ... 20:03 < fake> hi 20:03 < esden> i started with this ... but I am not finished yet ... had another things to do 20:04 < esden> hi fake 20:04 < _NULL> moin fake 20:04 < barthel_> hi fake 20:04 < rxr> esden: i can do this 20:04 < Mike1> 0_o fake 20:04 < Mike1> hi fake :) 20:05 < esden> cool ... 20:05 < esden> then I really owe you the 3.75 eur ;-) 20:05 -!- barthel_ [~barthel@62.206.249.2] has quit ("Client Exiting") 20:05 < esden> you will get them when we see eachother on 19C3 20:05 < rxr> ;-) 20:05 -!- barthel [~barthel@62.206.249.2] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:05 -!- barthel [~barthel@62.206.249.2] has joined #rocklinux 20:06 < rxr> I'll try to write such a sample after the tagesschau ... 20:06 < barthel> re :/ no my day ;/ 20:06 < esden> kk ;-) 20:06 < esden> please send it to me too 20:06 < rxr> sure 20:06 < esden> only for my archives ;-) 20:06 < esden> or better ... _protocol_ ;-0 20:07 < rxr> in the GNATs og gcc you still find a unfixed bug from valentin and me from one or two years ago ;-) 20:08 < esden> urgh ... 20:08 < esden> these guys ... do not fix everithing ... if I see it correctly ;-) 20:09 < rxr> no - the current parser sucks so much that it is ont easyly fixable 20:09 < _NULL> aszlig: fertig mit kopieren und server online? 20:09 < rxr> we already got 2 or 3 mails like: "Tested ... Still present in current CVS HEAD ..." ... 20:09 < esden> hmm ... I hope the new one will be better ... 20:09 < _NULL> aaeh. sorry. wrong window... 20:10 < aszlig> _NULL: not yet 20:10 < rxr> esden: the current is bison - the new one will be self-written C ... 20:10 < _NULL> aszlig: when do you think that it will be finished? 20:10 < esden> aha ... so bison sux ... am I right ? 20:11 < rxr> hm - it is old and could be better. It sucks not completely. But for big/complex parsers it sucks. Yes. ;-) 20:11 < aszlig> _NULL: it is already booting ;) 20:11 < Mike1> _NULL: when will the coffee be ready? 20:12 < _NULL> Mike1: never. 20:12 < _NULL> aszlig: ok ;) do you know if the disconnect this night was caused by the problem you had with the server or was it caused by too much load of my ssh-connection? 20:12 < esden> no esden ... no ... you will not start a flamewar ... >_< (talking about the vi/vim thread) 20:16 < aszlig> _NULL: too heavy load ;) 20:16 < _NULL> aszlig: uah. i just did "make install"... but how can i install postfix if i can't execute this command, please? 20:17 < esden> lool ... 20:17 < esden> aszlig: have you overclocked the machine ... ??? 20:18 < _NULL> esden: why overclocked? ;) 20:18 < aszlig> esden: *lol* how do i overclock an uml? 20:19 < esden> lool ... 20:19 < esden> an overclocked uml ... otherwise ... it is inpossible that you bring a box down because of heavy load ... 20:19 < esden> or something is really wrong 20:19 < esden> bug in uml ? 20:19 < aszlig> esden: it is possible 20:20 < esden> is it so unstable ? 20:20 < aszlig> esden: nope 20:20 < esden> but not with a make install ... sorry 20:20 < aszlig> esden: i activated selinux in the host-sys 20:20 < esden> ahh ... 20:21 < aszlig> and uml runs as unprivileged user 20:21 < esden> hmm ... I think that it is stupid to send a patch for two typos ... :-/ 20:22 < esden> aszlig: yes I know what uml is ;-) 20:22 < esden> you would be pretty stupid to run it as root ;-) 20:23 < aszlig> *fuck* 20:24 < aszlig> something is wrong with the tuntap-device 20:24 < aszlig> s 20:24 < esden> ? 20:24 < esden> humm humm ... 20:24 < esden> ahh ... coooooool .... I have a solution for snyke !!!! 20:24 < aszlig> _NULL: sorry, i'll fix it when i'll bbl 20:25 < esden> *jumparound* 20:25 < aszlig> esden: ? 20:25 < esden> and for bchat """" 20:25 < esden> !!!! 20:25 < aszlig> esden: ah ;) 20:25 < _NULL> aszlig: oki. thx. 20:25 < esden> hehe ... aszlig ... you are my god ;-) 20:25 < esden> why did I not think about it before ??? 20:25 < _NULL> esden: *lol* 20:25 < aszlig> esden: why didn't you ask me before? 20:26 < esden> hmm ... sorry aszlig ... will do next time 20:26 < aszlig> esden: thx ;) 20:26 < esden> hihi ... I have a use for uml *jumparound* 20:26 < aszlig> esden: great ;) 20:26 < esden> so I have something geeky to play around with !!! 20:26 < esden> hehe ;-) 20:27 < fake> esden: don't geek around on a production systewm 20:27 < fake> -w 20:27 < aszlig> esden: do you want a 1gb image af uml-rock? 20:27 < aszlig> fake: ey! thats uml! 20:27 < fake> is it up and running fast enough so nobody notices it? 20:28 < fake> think reboot. 20:28 < esden> fake: *GGG* the right one says something like this ;-) 20:28 < aszlig> k, have to go... 20:28 < aszlig> c'ya later ;) 20:28 < fake> well, yes. bye. 20:28 < esden> aszlig: how fast is uml ? 20:28 < esden> ok ... bye ... aszlig 20:29 < aszlig> esden: it runs quite well on my p100 router with 32 meg ram ;) 20:29 < esden> fake: we will se when it is running on apollo ... ;-) 20:29 < aszlig> hehe :> 20:29 < fake> "quite well" sounds intersting 20:29 < aszlig> ;) 20:29 < aszlig> k, c'ya 20:29 < fake> esden: what would it be good for? 20:30 < esden> fake: snyke ... and others that want to hook up on apollo 20:30 < esden> I prefere that they work on their "own" machine ;-) 20:31 < esden> I am really interested how stable it is ... that could be a problem ... 20:31 < esden> I have enough time to think about it ... till I am back in germany 20:31 < fake> esden: fine, but do we NEED it, or do we WANT it? 20:31 < esden> we need it ... fake 20:32 < esden> and we want it ... 20:32 < esden> because so we can gain more security ... hopefully more securiti... if it prooves itself 20:32 < huebi> tach esden 20:32 < esden> hi huebi 20:32 < fake> snyke-does-not-need-an-account-on-apollo-for-any-noticeable-reason! 20:32 < fake> hi huebi ! 20:33 * -> esden rewinds his thinking casette ... and plays once more ... 20:33 < esden> yes you are right fake 20:34 < esden> but if he has a reasonable reason ... I have a solution 20:34 < huebi> hi fake 20:34 < rolla> Fake 20:35 < fake> hi rolla! 20:35 < esden> but we have to fix the freaking bug in bchat ... >_< 20:35 < fake> we have to fix that freakin' bchat in that bug... err.. nevermind ;) 20:36 < esden> crash tryed to and faild .. now he is rewriting bccs ... with linked lists ... writing the linked lists code by himself ... 20:36 < esden> *no-comment* 20:37 < esden> yes freakin' ... thanks 20:37 < fake> :P 20:39 < snyke> what? 20:39 < snyke> i dunno need apollo... 20:39 < snyke> NEVER 20:39 < snyke> ARGH 20:39 < snyke> look at my hostmask :) 20:40 < snyke> I DONT NEED THAT APOLLO 20:40 < huebi> snyke: Do you need zeus? 20:40 * fake needs some aphrodite 20:40 < huebi> hehe 20:41 < snyke> no. 20:41 < barthel> fake: ;) 20:41 < snyke> eros is rul0r 20:41 < esden> he seems to be angry ... :-/ 20:42 * snyke is 20:42 < fake> face the facts.. 20:43 * snyke will never restart that bchat 20:43 < snyke> should be down for masses of hours 20:43 < snyke> incredible high times 20:43 < snyke> 25hours a day 20:44 < fake> snyke: WHAT - DO - YOU - NEED - IT - FOR ? 20:45 < esden> ok ... I have to go ... 20:45 < esden> cu guys ... 20:45 < barthel> cu esden 20:45 < _NULL> bye esden 20:46 < fake> cu esden 20:52 < fake> snyke: i still have no answer. i count that as zero. 20:56 < th> how to match a line by e.g. grep that contains a word twice? 20:56 < th> something like: "<td><a name="env" href="env">" 20:56 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5906.pppool.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:57 < th> hey regexp-gurus wake up! 20:57 < fake> <- regexp-lamer 20:57 < fake> sorry. 20:59 < huebi> 'name="env"*href="env"' 20:59 < huebi> oda so... 20:59 < th> huebi: ich will die zeile aber auch, wenn das wort nicht "env" heisst 21:01 < fake> und nicht name= oder href= ? 21:01 < fake> <- suggests human intelligence 21:02 < th> fake: naja, dass die worte href oder name sind koennen wir ausschliessen 21:02 < th> bzw. 21:02 < th> nein 21:02 < th> name und href sind ja nicht in quotes 21:05 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5906.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:05 < _NULL> re 21:06 < th> [^"]*"\([^"]*\)"[^"]*"\1"[^"]*$ 21:06 < th> !!! 21:07 < th> yeah yeah yeah 21:07 < Mike1> hi th 21:07 < th> hi Mike1 21:07 * Mike1 away having lunch 21:08 < rxr> esden: still here 21:08 < rxr> ? 21:10 * barthel videoconference with a DAU customer :/ 21:13 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5906.pppool.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:17 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5906.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:23 < th> echo foo | read bar 21:24 < th> that doesn't work 21:24 < th> strange 21:25 * th is confused. 21:26 < rolla> does anyone know how to get rid of an ntfs mbr ? 21:27 < th> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdxy bs=512 count=1 21:28 < huebi> th ack 21:32 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-business-212-101-24-88.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 21:32 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-business-212-101-24-88.solnet.ch] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:36 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-business-212-101-24-88.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 21:37 * barthel is away: I'm busy or sleep or whatever ;) 21:41 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-business-212-101-24-88.solnet.ch] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:43 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B5906.pppool.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:48 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-business-212-101-24-88.solnet.ch] has joined #rocklinux 21:48 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-business-212-101-24-88.solnet.ch] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:53 < rolla> okay thanks th 22:09 < snyke> re 22:13 < rolla> hey th that didn't work 22:13 < rolla> mount still thinks the partition is ntfs 22:15 * rolla wonders where his bulk magnate is 22:20 < th> hmm 22:20 < th> what command did you enter? 22:21 < rolla> d if=/dev/zero of=/dev/discs/disc0/disc bs=512 count=1 22:21 < rolla> s/d/dd/ 22:21 < rolla> then I fdisked it 22:21 < rolla> then mkfs it 22:21 < th> perhaps you should of to your partition 22:22 < th> use -t ext2 to mount it 22:22 < rolla> okay I shall 22:22 < th> and you should dd to the partition not to the disc 22:26 < rolla> ah okay 22:26 < rolla> adding the -t worked I guess I should have tried that sooner 23:13 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@pD9589C16.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:13 < holyolli> hi 23:14 * holyolli is now back in live - i 23:14 < holyolli> have internet..! ;-) 23:14 < Mike1> holyolli: welcome :) 23:14 < holyolli> hi Mike1 :) 23:20 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@pD9589C16.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit () 23:38 -!- litost [~stephen@ajc224-197.ajc.com] has quit ("home") 23:51 < Mike1> bye all 23:51 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") --- Log closed Sat Oct 05 00:00:48 2002