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02:15 < aszlig> rehi
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03:43 < aszlig> hullo
03:45 < aszlig> all asleep?
03:47 < aszlig> now, im disappointed!
03:49 < aszlig> because there usually are d3mian and litost who are awake!
03:49 * aszlig drinking coffee ;)
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04:01 < litost> hehe
04:01 < aszlig> ey!
04:01 < aszlig> hullo!
04:01 < aszlig> ;)
04:01 < litost> =)...how are ya?
04:01 < aszlig> 1 person is awake ;)
04:02 < aszlig> hey, im fine =)
04:02 < litost> not for long though :)
04:02 < litost> it's approaching my bedtime and i'm tiiirrrreeeddd
04:03 < aszlig> i've got almost more than a week i had not much sleep...
04:03 < aszlig> summarized... erm...
04:03 < litost> why not?
04:03 < aszlig> about 40 hours
04:03 < aszlig> less than 40 hours ;)
04:04 < aszlig> and im still alive ;)
04:04 < litost> i understand. i sleep about 5 hours per night
04:04 < aszlig> thats too much ;)
04:04 < litost> ahaha
04:05 < litost> any less and i'd be a walking zombie
04:05 < aszlig> that im now ;)
04:05 < litost> it's already hard enough to stay awake at work
04:05 < aszlig> hehe, that will be hard for me, too..
04:05 < aszlig> today...
04:05 < aszlig> work begins at 9:00
04:05 < aszlig> am
04:06 < aszlig> :)
04:06 < aszlig> 9:00 utc
04:06 < litost> ahhh...i have class in the morning and go to work at noon
04:07 < litost> it's always hard to stay focused after the lunch hour
04:07 < aszlig> hrhr
04:07 < aszlig> so, now have to finish that fscking webpage-rewrite project
04:08 < litost> i think if i _stop_ drinking caffine then i might not be as sleepy
04:08 < litost> ewww
04:08 * litost is trying to learn opengl
04:08 < aszlig> had to rewrite a page created by m$ frontpage
04:09 < aszlig> s/^had/still have/
04:09 < litost> gross...sounds like workwork
04:09 < aszlig> erm...
04:09 < aszlig> yes, it should be multilingual
04:10 < litost> is it a big site?
04:10 < aszlig> currently working on the admin functions
04:10 < aszlig> erm..
04:10 < aszlig> hmm..
04:10 < aszlig> https://www.e-ventus.de/
04:11 < aszlig> (the first i've done, is that a got rid of that nasty flash thing)
04:11 < aszlig> s/ a / i /
04:12 < litost> wonderful!! it wouldn't have worked for me anyway ;)
04:12 < aszlig> i hate those stupid flash menus
04:13 < aszlig> and that one is a cruel one...
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04:13 < aszlig> blindcod1r: hullo
04:13 < litost> yea, i don't understand why people slap them on homepages
04:14 < aszlig> litost: it was too restrictive...
04:14 < aszlig> litost: because, there was just one layer who is duplicated about ten times
04:14 < litost> i know. i almost when ballistic when my university stuck flash on their front page
04:14 < litost> i see
04:15 < aszlig> litost: and, if you wanted to change something, you have too change it ten time, too :/
04:15 < aszlig> s/have/had/
04:16 < litost> yes, unecessary redundancy is a design flaw
04:16 < aszlig> litost: additionally my boss is an arsehole!
04:17 < litost> ahahaha...i guess he doesn't know how to read irc logs ;)
04:17 < aszlig> litost: he can't understand how difficult it is to tidy up an frontpage-"designed" website
04:17 < aszlig> litost: he doesn't know about irc!
04:18 < litost> aszlig: why did he chose frontpage in the first place?
04:18 < aszlig> litost: because its easy
04:18 < aszlig> litost: and it produces crappy code
04:19 < litost> aszlig: well, you get what you pay for
04:19 < aszlig> litost: really?
04:19 < litost> aszlig: hahaha...maybe not
04:20 < litost> aszlig: but i can understand the desire for simplicity
04:20 < aszlig> litost: hmm, what about that page in other languages...
04:20 < litost> aszlig: how may other languages?
04:20 < aszlig> litost: say... 8?
04:21 < aszlig> litost: then you have to copy that page 8 times with fp
04:21 < litost> aszlig: i see
04:21 * litost has never used frontpage
04:21 * aszlig too ;)
04:22 < litost> aszlig: :)
04:22 < aszlig> k...
04:22 < aszlig> i tried it once
04:22 < aszlig> to convice me that it produces crap
04:23 < litost> aszlig: ummm...i notice there is one very large image. will you shrink it?
04:23 < aszlig> yep
04:23 < litost> cool
04:23 < aszlig> it's now in the database (blob) ;)
04:23 < litost> i'm no web designer by far, but no page should really be bigger than 50k
04:24 < litost> well it's certainly a blob :)...in both senses
04:24 < aszlig> hehe, currently, my version is about 28k, without the downloads
04:25 < litost> great! friendly for us dial users ;)
04:25 < aszlig> yep
04:25 < litost> s/dial/dialup
04:26 < aszlig> yeah, im one of them, too ;)
04:26 < aszlig> urks:
04:27 < aszlig> revision 1.1: 38MB
04:27 < litost> good. i hate when web designers don't consider dialup users. even if i did have flash, or anything crappy like that, it would still take forever to download it
04:27 < aszlig> HEAD: 29KB
04:27 < litost> hrm.
04:28 < aszlig> there is for example a image:
04:28 < aszlig> s/is/was/
04:28 < aszlig> size: 20000x18000
04:29 < litost> whoa!!
04:29 < aszlig> three of them
04:29 < aszlig> now they are 400x375
04:29 < litost> good :)
04:30 < litost> i can't even imagine 20000x18000
04:30 < aszlig> *lol*
04:30 < litost> or even an order of magnitude below
04:30 < aszlig> arrh!
04:30 < aszlig> *shriek*
04:31 < aszlig> have to keep that fscking flash applet!
04:31 < litost> what?! why?
04:31 < aszlig> the client wants it!
04:31 < litost> fsck the client =)
04:32 < litost> hehe
04:32 < aszlig> hehe
04:32 < aszlig> s/client/customer/
04:32 < aszlig> hmm...
04:32 < aszlig> k, then...
04:33 < aszlig> maybe i can convince them killing that ugly flash thingie
04:33 < litost> isn't it possible to build it so that people who are flash impaired (me and you) can still view the page w/o the ugly flash menubar
04:33 < aszlig> hmm...
04:33 < litost> maybe a little more work...but that's more money for you, right?
04:33 < aszlig> i could check the browser...
04:33 < aszlig> that isn't money for me!
04:33 < litost> argh!!
04:34 < litost> you mean you're doing this out of good will?
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04:34 < litost> not that there's anything wrong with that :)
04:35 < aszlig> hrm..
04:35 < aszlig> otherwise my fscking boss will kick me
04:35 < litost> that's not good
04:35 < aszlig> i do a sucking apprenticeship
04:36 < litost> oh i see
04:36 < litost> hrm
04:36 < aszlig> currently seeking a new job...
04:36 < litost> yea me too
04:37 < aszlig> but i think you'll have it easier
04:37 < litost> can't you convince your boss that flash is nonstandard and prevents some people from viewing the site
04:37 < aszlig> *bwahaha*
04:37 < litost> especially if it's a menubar
04:37 < aszlig> my boss...
04:37 < litost> guess not :)
04:37 < aszlig> hehe...
04:38 < aszlig> he is a luser!
04:38 < aszlig> (hrm, maybe coding another lart for him)
04:38 < litost> yea, but when i talk to people like that, i try to convince them that it's actually hurting their business
04:39 < aszlig> erm, what do you mean exactly?
04:40 < litost> i mean that by using flash, people who don't have browsers that are flash capable will have difficulty using the website
04:41 < litost> they get frustrated and go somewhere else
04:41 < aszlig> he don't bother about that...
04:41 < aszlig> btw...
04:41 < litost> i understand
04:41 < aszlig> https://www.stroehmer.de <- website of that fscking company
04:43 < litost> more flash shit
04:43 < aszlig> esden: is it possible to cut that conversation off your irc-logs, or include that in robots.txt (so, that google will not find it ;)
04:43 < aszlig> yeah
04:44 < aszlig> esden: thx in advance ;)
04:44 < litost> i have no sympathy for people who use that on home pages
04:44 < aszlig> hehe :>
04:45 < aszlig> he does not care about non-ie users
04:46 < litost> then fine, it's _his_ problem, and it'll only hurt _his_ business
04:46 < aszlig> erm, btw the menu on stroehmer-page isn't a flash applet
04:46 < aszlig> its crappy dhtml
04:46 < aszlig> using document.all (ie only)
04:46 < aszlig> erm...
04:46 < aszlig> his business...
04:47 < aszlig> but i have to werk like that :(
04:47 < aszlig> s/werk/work/
04:47 < litost> hrm...the source for stroehmer.de seems a little funny
04:47 < aszlig> i know
04:48 < litost> a lot of whitespace between the html and head tags
04:48 < aszlig> there are variable names like "damussthin" (there you must go)
04:48 < litost> i'm using mozilla, so it may just be me
04:49 < aszlig> i'm using mozilla usually too... an trash pages
04:49 < aszlig> s/an/on/
04:49 < litost> it does the same with lynx
04:49 < aszlig> if the page is fine, w3m is much better ;)
04:51 < aszlig> and stroehmer advertises to be a company for "webdesign", too (funny, eh?)
04:52 < litost> why the hell is there so much whitespace on all the pages? :)
04:53 < aszlig> its written in php, but very kinky
04:54 < litost> i now understand why you like termcap files :)
04:55 < aszlig> hehe...
04:55 < aszlig> but terminfo is much nicer than termcap ;)
04:56 < litost> oh yea...termcap was deprecated, right?
04:56 < aszlig> yep
04:56 < aszlig> but its almost the same syntax
04:56 < aszlig> and its much faster, because the files are already compiled
04:56 < litost> cool
04:57 < aszlig> hehe, try infocmp
04:58 < litost> hehe...are you serious?
04:58 < litost> :)
04:58 < aszlig> yes ;)
04:58 < aszlig> infocmp shows the current terminfo
04:58 < aszlig> infocmp <termtype>
04:58 < aszlig> ;)
04:59 < aszlig> for example:
04:59 < litost> hehe...okok..i'm rtfming infocmp
04:59 < aszlig> infocmp screen-w
04:59 < litost> that's usefull :)
05:00 < aszlig> hehe ;)
05:00 < aszlig> i was always fascinated about consoles/escapes/ansi/vtxxx ;)
05:01 < litost> wow...that is certainly a special quality 8)
05:01 < aszlig> and... i never write programs using ncurses ;)
05:02 < litost> ncurses would be cheating for you, wouldn't it? :)
05:02 < aszlig> yep!
05:02 < aszlig> it takes you the purity
05:03 < aszlig> i favour using escapes
05:03 < aszlig> but..
05:04 < aszlig> currently some os have probs with it
05:04 < aszlig> like netbsd
05:04 < litost> why is that?
05:04 < aszlig> so in my current browser-project i have to use ioctls
05:05 < aszlig> netbsd don't understands those escapes
05:05 < aszlig> they doesn't even exist in there!
05:05 < litost> hrm...why not?
05:06 < aszlig> netbsd was designed to be minimalistic
05:08 < litost> well, i really don't know much about the console layer, but are you saying that netbsd has just left out the functionality you need/
05:08 < aszlig> waah!
05:08 < aszlig> look at this code:
05:09 < aszlig> if($mipdflr=="")
05:09 < aszlig> {
05:09 < aszlig> exit();
05:09 < aszlig> }
05:09 < aszlig> elseif($mipdflr!="")
05:09 < aszlig> {
05:09 < aszlig> exit();
05:09 < aszlig> }
05:09 < litost> hunh? :)
05:09 < aszlig> aargh!
05:09 < aszlig> that does hurt!
05:10 < aszlig> *klonk*
05:10 < litost> that takes a genious
05:10 < litost> seriously, please tell me some didn't write that
05:11 < aszlig> that did write somebody!
05:11 < aszlig> aaah!
05:12 < litost> besides the obvious flaw, what the hell is a mipdflr?
05:12 < aszlig> now, you know how the disastrousity of that code!
05:12 < aszlig> dunno
05:12 < aszlig> i dont even know what a dkmt is!?
05:12 < litost> my condolences
05:13 < litost> hahaah
05:13 < aszlig> thats another variable-name
05:13 < aszlig> thx
05:13 < litost> hehe
05:13 < aszlig> or grph
05:14 < aszlig> d
05:14 < aszlig> d
05:14 < aszlig> d
05:14 < aszlig> ...
05:14 < aszlig> hehe
05:14 < aszlig> s/^d/dd/
05:14 < aszlig> ah, dd once more
05:14 < aszlig> ggdG
05:14 < aszlig> better ;>
05:15 < litost> hrm :)
05:15 < aszlig> bwah!
05:15 < aszlig> i _need_ a cigarette!
05:16 < aszlig> brb :Q
05:16 < litost> hehe..k
05:22 < aszlig> re
05:22 < aszlig> hehe, thats a real ggdG-job ;>
05:23 < litost> hehe
05:23 * litost yawns
05:24 < aszlig> litost: huh?
05:24 < litost> ok, time for me to sleep()
05:24 < aszlig> k
05:24 < aszlig> gnu8
05:24 < litost> night :)
05:24 < aszlig> have to proceed ggdG
05:24 < aszlig> hmm...
05:25 < aszlig> ey!
05:25 < aszlig> that will be the new name of the browser ;)
05:25 < aszlig> ggdG
05:25 < aszlig> hrm...
05:28 < aszlig> esden: again... plz don't forget that! k?
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05:48 < nAdIED> H!
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05:56 < aszlig> reu
05:56 < aszlig> s/.$//
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07:03 < aszlig> re
07:10 < litost> argh...
07:10 * litost awakened by thunder
07:11 < aszlig> hehe
07:15 < litost> ok, i'm halting so my computer doesn't get fried...
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07:30 < aszlig> hullo
07:31 < putra-langit> hi
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09:01 < tsa> moin.
09:28 < aszlig> hullo
09:44 < tsa> hi aszlig
09:55 < [anders]> narf!
09:57 < tsa> hi [anders]..
09:57 < tsa> still having fun with fl_wrapper ?
10:04 < [anders]> tsa: oh yes..
10:04 < [anders]> morning tsa.. had a nice weekend?
10:06 < tsa> yes, sure..
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10:11 * [anders] needs to mod the build files to copy the fl_wrapper output file somewhere so it can be analysed to track down where the fault lies..
10:40 < [anders]> Mmm.. the mod was easy, but not complete yet..
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10:43 < barthel> re
10:43 < barthel> moin moin all ;)
10:43 < barthel> <- coffee...
10:52 < barthel> re
10:54 < aszlig> re
10:54 < aszlig> :)
10:55 * aszlig is eating cigarettes all the time ;)
10:56 < aszlig> cause i got nothing to eat today :)
10:56 < barthel> why do you eating cigarettes ?
11:05 < tsa> hm...
11:24 < aszlig> barthel: because i have nothing else to eat
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11:28 < tcr> moin all ]:8)>
11:30 < tsa> hi tcr
11:31 < tsa> aszlig: try eating your keyboard instead..
11:31 < tsa> ;)
11:31 < barthel> ;)
11:31 < barthel> moo tcr
11:33 < tcr> hey keyboards with ketchup doesn't taste so bad
11:33 < tcr> s,es,,1
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13:15 < tsa> bbl
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15:08 < [anders]> narf!! it is the fscking fl_wrapper that is b0rked..
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15:08 < blindWorker> hi guys
15:09 < [anders]> I have said this before, but Clifford didn't believe me.. This time I have the files to prrove it..
15:09 < [anders]> re blindWorker
15:09 < blindWorker> does anyone of you know if there's a tool to configure Closed User groups on an Apache-Webserver?
15:10 * [anders] looks out the window and whistles..
15:10 < blindWorker> I assume that as a "no" :)
15:11 < blindWorker> brb, need some coffee
15:15 < blindWorker> ah, coffee.... *smile*
15:21 * barthel need a sharp zaurus sl5500g ;)
15:22 < blindWorker> what's that?
15:23 < barthel> a really sice pda ;) https://www.sharp-usa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,699,00.html
15:23 < barthel> s/sice/nice/g
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15:27 < blindWorker> *argh* mozilla just isn't made for Solaris
15:29 < aszlig> re
15:30 < blindWorker> re aszlig
15:30 < barthel> re aszlig
15:30 < aszlig> hehe, i've been fired today :)
15:30 < blindWorker> ???
15:30 < blindWorker> what for?
15:30 < barthel> what ??
15:30 < aszlig> because i'm fed up with my boss :)
15:31 < blindWorker> that's bad...
15:31 < aszlig> bad?
15:31 < aszlig> i feel better now ;)
15:31 < barthel> hhhmmm...
15:31 < barthel> thats good ;)
15:32 < blindWorker> hmm... at least you can stay in bed tomorrow morning :-)
15:32 < barthel> do you have a new job ?
15:32 < aszlig> barthel: nope
15:32 < barthel> and on horizont ?
15:32 < aszlig> dunno
15:32 < barthel> hhhmmm...
15:32 < blindWorker> $ finger aszlig
15:32 < blindWorker> aszlig has no plan :-)
15:33 < barthel> ;)
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15:35 < blindWorker> argh, stupid proxies
15:35 < barthel> aszlig: what was your core-work ?
15:36 < aszlig> barthel: coding on some projects
15:36 < rolla> re
15:36 < barthel> hi rolla
15:36 < aszlig> hullo rolla
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16:03 < blindWorker> sw33t
16:03 < blindWorker> GoogleBot was at my site 14 times in 6 days...
16:03 < barthel> Question: it's possible to start alsa-config script without install-prog. ?
16:04 < blindWorker> phew.... no idea... never used alsa...
16:05 < barthel> ;/ i've a new soundcard... ;)
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16:07 < Mike1> hi all
16:07 < rolla> re mike
16:07 < rolla> galeon grrr
16:07 < Mike1> rolla: ?
16:08 * Mike1 is very happy with his new computer :)
16:08 < barthel> hi Mike1... greetings from good old germany ;)
16:08 < barthel> galeon runs on barthel's rock-gnome2 really nice ;)
16:09 < Mike1> greetings back from warm Costa Rica
16:09 < blindWorker> hi Mike1
16:09 < Mike1> blindWorker: :)
16:11 < blindWorker> don't misinterpret the name.... I"m not really working.... but don't tell anyone
16:12 < [anders]> meep Mike1
16:12 < Mike1> moo [anders]
16:12 < Mike1> :)
16:13 * [anders] has found a rather problematic issue with fl_wrapper and the Debian box he uses.. It misses files and the flist's are not correct..
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16:25 * barthel <- have to go home... motorbike to garage ;)
16:25 * barthel is away: I'm busy or sleep or whatever ;)
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16:29 < blindWorker> *grml* *curse*
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16:56 * Mike1 feels terribly sad
16:56 < Mike1> i think i will be the rest of the day away from my keyboard just inc ase someone try to reach me
16:57 * Mike1 is away: I'm busy
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17:11 < tcr> re all
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18:06 < rolla> re
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19:00 < defbla_> rxr: ping?
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19:10 * Mike1 everything is fucked up i am out of here
19:10 < Mike1> bye
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19:31 < netrunner> sex - drugs and rocklinux?
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19:43 < rolla> re Mike
19:43 < Mike1> re
19:43 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
19:43 < blindcoder> hi all
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19:55 < litost> hi everyone
19:56 < Mike1> hi litost
19:56 < litost> whatcha up to Miguel?
19:58 < Mike1> work and trying to get some bad feeling away from me
19:58 < zer0_o> reallive sucks
19:58 < litost> i'm sorry man...hope everything will be okay.
19:59 < zer0_o> i hate it
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20:00 < blindcoder> real... what??
20:01 < zer0_o> reallife
20:01 < blindcoder> I've heard of it... but I don't think that I have something like that :)
20:01 < blindcoder> sounds like a really dangerous disease :)
20:02 < zer0_o> better you don't know it, it realy sucks... it's full of bad experiences!!
20:02 < zer0_o> and it seems it will never end...
20:03 < blindcoder> hmm
20:03 * blindcoder could plug a third graphics card into his workstation...
20:04 < zer0_o> why ?
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20:04 < blindcoder> cause my two monitors are too crowded....
20:05 < zer0_o> ive got two too..
20:05 < blindcoder> I still have some spare monitors... and one spare card...
20:05 < zer0_o> on this box
20:07 < blindcoder> I'll do so tomorrow... still ave to finish this ROCK-Build
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20:13 < _NULL> moin
20:13 < blindcoder> hey nully
20:14 < _NULL> tach blindy
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20:31 < _NULL> hi jasonmaier_
20:32 < blindcoder> hi jasonmaier_
20:34 < jasonmaier_> hi guys
20:34 < jasonmaier_> i got a problem with 1.5.19 binary installation..
20:34 < blindcoder> schiess los :)
20:34 < jasonmaier_> i installed it ti build my own 1.7 after big problem with building on gentoo
20:35 < jasonmaier_> also nach installation geht die tastatur nicht.
20:35 < blindcoder> in X oder allgemein?
20:35 < jasonmaier_> netzwerk laeuft und
20:35 < jasonmaier_> allgemein, keine pty anmeldung moeglich =(
20:36 < blindcoder> ssh?
20:36 < jasonmaier_> uebers netzwerk angemeldet und gpm gekillt kann ich auch an der konsole mich anmelden
20:36 < blindcoder> ach... ja, das problem kenn ich irgendwoher...
20:36 < jasonmaier_> gpm mit rnlvl... rausgenommen geht alles
20:37 < blindcoder> leider habe ich ausser gpm deaktivieren noch keine moeglichkeit gefunden, dass zu loesen
20:37 < jasonmaier_> warn purer zufall. habe uebers netz versucht agetty re restarten, brachte aber keinen erfolg.
20:37 < jasonmaier_> ich meine gpm ist ja nicht wichtig, aber komisch schon
20:38 < blindcoder> das liegt aber IMHO nicht an ROCK, weil ich das selbe problem auf nem ganz anderen Rechner mit SuSE@Arbeit auch hatte
20:38 < jasonmaier_> okok
20:38 * blindcoder tippt auf PS/2 Probleme...
20:38 < jasonmaier_> aber dachte vielleicht wisst ihr rat. hatte das prob nie unter suse oder gentoo oder gentoo
20:39 < blindcoder> hmm...
20:39 < jasonmaier_> ps/2 ok
20:39 < jasonmaier_> gpm ist glaube ich eh n shit prog
20:39 < jasonmaier_> hab ich mal gehoert
20:40 < blindcoder> hmm.... ich hab mir den code nie angeschaut :)
20:40 < _NULL> jasonmaier_: hast du vielleicht an irgendeinem com-port 'ne maus?
20:40 < jasonmaier_> gibts aber keine alternative habe mir den code auch nie angeschaut.. ob ich ihn verstehen wuerde..
20:40 < jasonmaier_> ??
20:40 < jasonmaier_> keinemaus am com port.. nur ps2
20:40 < blindcoder> *AAARRRGGGHHH*
20:41 < jasonmaier_> und die einstellungen mit denen der installer gpm startete waren auch psaux oder so
20:41 < _NULL> jasonmaier_: und auch im gpm auf psaux gesetzt?
20:41 < blindcoder> MIR IST NE LED DURCHGEBRANNT!!!
20:41 < aszlig> *ledueberpruef*
20:41 < aszlig> *uff* gehn noch alle
20:41 * _NULL hatte mal das probl. dass sie in gpm den falschen (com)-port einstellte --> tatstur ging nicht
20:41 < blindcoder> aszlig: :P
20:42 < jasonmaier_> wisst ihr eigentlich ob bei den aktuellen 1.7 snapshot die ganzen downloadprobs geloest sind ??
20:43 < blindcoder> welche downloadprobs?
20:43 < blindcoder> fehlende files? oder probleme mit curl?
20:44 < jasonmaier_> probs mit curl, faksche urls (gnome, xml2 ....) bei mir warens ueber 70 dateien die er nicht laden konnte mit aktuellen curl und wget
20:45 < blindcoder> ja, gnome hat die verzeichnisstruktur auf den FTPs umgestellt...
20:45 < blindcoder> bin mir nicht sicher ob das bereits behoben ist...
20:45 < jasonmaier_> hab dan haufen patches geschickt bekommen
20:46 < blindcoder> hab letztens bei 1.5 erst fast 50 URIs nachgezogn (hauptsaechlich gnome, aber auch libxml[,2] und orbi)
20:48 < jasonmaier_> machte ich bei 1.7 und dann schlug der build fehl wegen irgendwas mit dem ursprungssystem...
20:49 < blindcoder> hmm... warte mal da hab ich letztens auf der mailingliste was gelesen...
20:49 < blindcoder> dass eni paket ausserhalb von $root files erzeugt und dadurch der flist_wrapper alarm schlaegt
20:49 < jasonmaier_> habe jetzt 1.5.19 auf dem zielsystem per iso installiert, werde es von dem aus noch einmal versuchen
20:49 < _NULL> blindcoder: aber das war auf debian, ja?
20:50 < blindcoder> _NULL: hmm... stimmt...
20:50 < blindcoder> jasonmaier_: viel erfolg
20:50 < jasonmaier_> danke
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21:02 * netrunner hat gestern 2mal eine iso-installation von drock durchzufuehren. Jedesmal waren Archive kaputt. recht frustrierend.
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21:02 < tsa> tag
21:02 < blindcoder> hi tsa
21:02 < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm... dRock hab ich nie ausprobiert...
21:02 < _NULL> moin tsa
21:04 < netrunner> blindcoder: wo ist der unterschied? bringt rock normal keine gui mit? oder fehlen nur dinge wie mplayer/libdecss und andere bunte dinge?
21:05 < Freak> ihr stinker
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21:05 < _NULL> Freak: hi.
21:05 < blindcoder> selber stinker :)
21:06 < Freak> *_NULLanspring*
21:06 < Freak> *totknuddel*
21:06 < _NULL> FREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:06 < Freak> _NULL: ho.
21:06 < blindcoder> netrunner: ich weiss es nicht, das ist es ja :)
21:06 < _NULL> ./kill Freak
21:06 < blindcoder> hi Freak
21:06 < Freak> AUTSCH *ohrabfall*
21:06 < blindcoder> netrunner: XFree, KDE (wer ihn will), mplayer und so ist eigentlich alles da
21:06 < _NULL> Freak: ich steche dich gleich, mit meinem silbernen dolch ab, wenn du mich nochmal "knuddelst" bzw. "anfasst"
21:07 < Freak> *antatsch*
21:07 < blindcoder> $ touch mail-spam@B55e2.pppool.de
21:07 < Freak> weder geknuddelt, noch geanfasst.
21:07 < _NULL> blindcoder: das selbe gilt fuer duich!
21:07 < _NULL> Freak: <Freak> *_NULLanspring*
21:07 < _NULL> <Freak> *totknuddel* << was war dann des?
21:07 < blindcoder> hmm... _NULL: kriegst morgen im Zug n bussi :)
21:08 < Freak> na das war bevor du es mir verboten hast
21:08 < Freak> sweet
21:08 < _NULL> blindcoder: na glueckklicherweise fahre ich morgen nicht zug
21:08 < blindcoder> verdammt >_<
21:08 < _NULL> Freak: das ist bei mir default und sollte eigentlich jeder schon wissen
21:08 < netrunner> blindcoder: urgs: "dRock has not some unneeded server programs" ich glaube ich will doch den puren rock ;)
21:09 < Freak> _NULL: du kannst das aber nicht einfach voraussetzen.
21:09 < _NULL> blindcoder: haha *gemein_grins*
21:09 < _NULL> Freak: sicher.
21:09 < Freak> aber.. ehrlichgesagt.. ich wusste es und wollte nur eine reaktion wie diese provozieren
21:09 < Freak> nein
21:09 < Freak> eine reaktion
21:09 < Freak> nicht wie diese, ehrlichgesagt
21:09 < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm... vielleciht sollte ichs mir doch mal anguggen... wenn ich meine Worksation zum.... 3 mal in 6 Monaten neu aufsetze :)
21:09 < Mike1> are
21:09 < Mike1> e
21:09 < Mike1> ug
21:09 < _NULL> Freak: du bist unmoeglich!
21:09 < Mike1> re
21:09 < blindcoder> re Mike1
21:09 < _NULL> hi Mike1
21:10 < Mike1> Como estas _NULL?
21:10 < blindcoder> Mike1: these dvorak-layouts are tricky, aren't they= :)
21:10 < Freak> _NULL: ich weiss *g
21:10 < Mike1> blindcoder: ack
21:10 < _NULL> Mike1: horrible is a positive word for my current feeling.thx. and how are you ?
21:10 < netrunner> blindcoder: "dRock has many additional desktop programs ... has additional audio and video tools" ... und kaputte isos. wobei das auch an meinen billigrohlingen liegen kann ;)
21:11 < Mike1> _NULL: great i am even feeling worst than you are thanks for remembering it to me
21:11 < blindcoder> netrunner: hmm... meine rohlinge kosten auch nur 20 EUR die 50er-spindel....
21:11 * blindcoder currently feels JUST GREAT!!! Anyone cares?
21:11 < _NULL> Mike1: welcome in the club of loosers or so.
21:11 < Freak> HEY can't you just PRETEND to be fine?
21:12 < Mike1> _NULL: feeling bad != looser
21:12 < _NULL> Mike1: then not welcome in the club of loosers
21:12 < blindcoder> _NULL: Usually I'd say something along "Welcome to Reality"...
21:12 < Mike1> Freak: i am usually fine just some shit around is freaking me out
21:12 < _NULL> blindcoder: when? for what?
21:12 < blindcoder> _NULL: if someone is just as or even more down than me
21:13 < Mike1> perhaps i will read BOFH that might cheer me up
21:13 < Freak> hum hum
21:13 < _NULL> blindcoder: yep. reality suckz. people suckz. life suckz. feelings suckz. everything suckz.
21:13 < blindcoder> Mike1: sounds like a good idea :)
21:13 < Freak> well
21:13 < Freak> I'm fine :)
21:13 < blindcoder> or the complete archives of UserFriendly or MegaTokyo
21:13 < Freak> at least me.
21:13 < blindcoder> Freak: ME TOO! ME TOO!
21:14 < tsa> _NULL: do you suck, too?
21:14 < Freak> ha! just pretending - but thats fine for me :)
21:14 < _NULL> blindcoder: wait until wednesday... then you won't feel great anymore...
21:14 < _NULL> tsa: of course. i'm a looser
21:14 < blindcoder> Freak: noooo :3 not pretending....
21:14 < tsa> _NULL: on what do you suck, then?
21:14 < tsa> *duck*
21:14 < blindcoder> _NULL: but you will :P
21:14 < Freak> bluefire: oh, thats even better :)
21:14 * Mike1 imagines _NULL sucking
21:14 < blindcoder> *LOL*
21:14 < _NULL> tsa: on my fscking gericom-notebook
21:14 < _NULL> *eg*
21:15 < _NULL> tsa: 1:0 for me! i won. now you are the looser!
21:16 < tsa> _NULL: i didn't see you suck on anything. no points for you, then.
21:16 < _NULL> tsa: and you will never see me doing it...
21:16 < blindcoder> tsa: we will have to wait until 19C3 then :)
21:16 < _NULL> blindcoder: do you wanna be killed?!
21:17 < blindcoder> _NULL: am I allowed to defend myself?
21:17 < _NULL> blindcoder: if you kill me, then: yes
21:17 < blindcoder> _NULL: we'll see...
21:17 < tsa> _NULL: i don't want to..
21:17 * blindcoder will hug _NULL to death :D
21:17 < tsa> hehe
21:17 < _NULL> OMG!
21:17 * _NULL running away
21:18 * blindcoder now REALLY looking forward to Wednesday *hehe*
21:18 < tsa> what's on wednesday?
21:18 < _NULL> blindcoder: fear the running NULL-pointer... especially if this NULL-pointer wears army boots... *vvvbeg*
21:18 < blindcoder> We'll meet on the train :)
21:19 < tsa> hehe....have fun.
21:19 < blindcoder> _NULL: I've seen hot-glue glueing ANYTHING to the floor :D
21:19 < _NULL> blindcoder: ???
21:20 < blindcoder> _NULL: how do you want to use your boots when they are glued to the floor?
21:20 -!- tsa is now known as tsa|ut2k3
21:20 < blindcoder> tsa|ut2k3: frag some for me too!
21:20 < _NULL> blindcoder: hm... i dunno. i still have my gericom and my knife to defend myself
21:21 < _NULL> blindcoder: frag the virtal blindcoder for me, please ;P
21:21 < blindcoder> gericom doesn't count, it cracks at first usage
21:21 < _NULL> blindcoder: ack. i already remarked it...
21:21 < blindcoder> and the knife... try to stick it through me :D you'll have some _fat_ problems :D
21:23 < _NULL> hm. ok. the "klinge" is about 3 cm or so... but normally you really feel pain, if you get cut by it... (believe me... )
21:23 < blindcoder> I'll have to get some pills then :)
21:24 < aszlig> _NULL: you meant the blade?
21:24 < blindcoder> Or drachi's Chainmail
21:24 < aszlig> re
21:24 < blindcoder> re ast
21:24 < blindcoder> re aszlig
21:24 < aszlig> *gg*
21:24 < _NULL> blindcoder: which pills? if you get some zyankali --> here!
21:24 < blindcoder> erm... ringmail was that
21:24 < blindcoder> _NULL: no fscking way
21:24 < _NULL> aszlig: blade = klinge... yeah?
21:25 < _NULL> blindcoder: dammit *cries*
21:25 < blindcoder> BA-BY! BA-BY!
21:25 < _NULL> btw, what is chainmail?
21:25 < _NULL> blindcoder: memme!
21:25 < blindcoder> Aber ne ganz harte!
21:25 < _NULL> *lol*
21:25 < Freak> he
21:25 < aszlig> _NULL: you dunno chainmail?
21:25 < blindcoder> Chainmail = Kettenruestung
21:25 < Freak> heh
21:25 < _NULL> aszlig: i really dunno it..
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21:25 < blindcoder> Ringmail = sowas aehnliches :)
21:25 < _NULL> wuahaha.
21:26 < aszlig> _NULL: too late ;)
21:26 < kasc> moinsen
21:26 < _NULL> evil
21:26 < _NULL> moin kasc
21:26 < kasc> *mampf*
21:26 < blindcoder> _NULL: your blade will ahve to be VERY small to get through the ringmail :D
21:26 < blindcoder> moin moin kasc
21:26 < _NULL> blindcoder: dammit. that's bad
21:26 < kasc> will wer bratkartoffeln?
21:26 * blindcoder VICTORY
21:26 < blindcoder> kasc: no thanks, I'm satiated
21:26 * aszlig can dive very good with his platemail ;)
21:27 < Freak> what's this 80's song..
21:27 < blindcoder> aszlig: but what about surfacing?
21:27 < _NULL> kasc: bratkartoffeln incl. poison? --> here
21:27 < Freak> ah I remember.. "I'm still standing" .. wasnt that elton john or someone?
21:27 < aszlig> blindcoder: erm...
21:27 < kasc> _NULL: i could spice them that way if you want to?
21:27 * blindcoder gives _NULL a general Antidote IV
21:27 < kasc> s/?//
21:27 < _NULL> kasc: hm. spice doesn't kill, does it?
21:27 < blindcoder> I don't think it was elton...
21:28 < Freak> oh yea it is
21:28 < _NULL> blindcoder: ?
21:28 < Freak> I love that song
21:28 < aszlig> blindcoder: it just won't come into my mind to surface and swim!?
21:28 < blindcoder> _NULL: IV = intravene
21:28 < kasc> just have to take the 'spices' from the cupboard next to the one with the original spices...
21:28 < blindcoder> aszlig: hehe
21:28 < _NULL> blindcoder: and "antidote"?
21:28 < blindcoder> _NULL: gegengift :)
21:28 < _NULL> kasc: hm. oki. what kills me fast?
21:28 * kasc is a chemists... 'spice' can include quite a lot ;)
21:28 < blindcoder> _NULL: nothing :)
21:28 < aszlig> _NULL: try some yoruga
21:29 < kasc> _NULL: what do you want?
21:29 < _NULL> ./me is going to lynch blindcoder
21:29 < blindcoder> *MWAHAHAHA*
21:29 < aszlig> hehe
21:29 < _NULL> kasc: i dunno. i'm not a chemist...
21:29 < _NULL> aszlig, blindcoder?
21:29 < blindcoder> kasc: slow and painful :)
21:30 < _NULL> kasc: nope. fast and without pain
21:30 < aszlig> a quick&dirty(TM) poision
21:30 < kasc> _NULL: what way do you want do die? quick and with lots of pain or slow with even more pain? >;)
21:30 < blindcoder> kasc: ignore her, she doesn't really count ;)
21:30 * _NULL = feige --> no pain && fast
21:30 < aszlig> _NULL: erm..
21:30 < _NULL> aszlig: ?
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21:31 < aszlig> i think she cannot sicide, cause shes a wimp
21:31 < kasc> _NULL: Äther oder Chloroform.
21:31 < aszlig> s/sicide/suicide/
21:31 < _NULL> aszlig: you are right.
21:31 < kasc> _NULL: but its difficult to keep it in a meal
21:31 < _NULL> kasc: that's bad
21:32 * blindcoder votes for traditional methods
21:32 < blindcoder> decapitation for example
21:32 < _NULL> *grml*
21:32 < blindcoder> you'll feel the pain at your neck for about 2-4 minutes ni addition to the lack of Oxygen
21:32 < _NULL> au!au! au! *jammer*
21:32 < blindcoder> not to mention the bloodloss your brain will suffer
21:33 * aszlig is selling fresh naftan!
21:33 < blindcoder> or the *bump* when your head hits the floor
21:33 < blindcoder> and is being played soccer with
21:33 < _NULL> hm
21:33 < _NULL> then i don't feel it anymore
21:33 < blindcoder> oh, but you will
21:33 < kasc> blindcoder: thats cruel... that bumping on the floor can cause a serious headache...
21:33 < blindcoder> at least tese 2-4 minutes :)
21:34 < blindcoder> kasc: oh, damnit... you're right...
21:34 < blindcoder> we should place a few cushions under the guilloitine then
21:34 < aszlig> but zithabar is more devestating
21:35 < _NULL> omg. lauter psychopathen...
21:35 < kasc> lol
21:35 < aszlig> *harhar*
21:35 < blindcoder> _NULL: see who's talking
21:35 < aszlig> *gg*
21:35 < kasc> _NULL: wir sind nur um dein Wohlergehen besorgt ;)
21:35 * blindcoder thinks he caught a cold >_<
21:35 < aszlig> cat /dev/sda > /dev/null
21:35 < _NULL> kasc: wer's glaubt
21:35 < kasc> jumping from a high building is kinda painless
21:36 < blindcoder> aszlig: ???
21:36 < _NULL> blindcoder: welcome in the club. i guss in the train today the window was opened.
21:36 < aszlig> harm...
21:36 < kasc> most ppl die from the fear to hit the ground, not from hitting it itself ;)
21:36 < blindcoder> _NULL: no, I shouldn't have been running around in a sweated T-Shirt yesterday
21:36 < _NULL> blindcoder: oki.
21:36 < aszlig> maybe i have to highlight that: cat /dev/sda > /dev/_NULL
21:36 < blindcoder> kasc: that's when jumping from a skyscraper
21:37 < _NULL> aszlig: ;PPP
21:37 < blindcoder> and why sda??
21:37 < aszlig> blindcoder: ey!
21:37 < aszlig> blindcoder: hmm..
21:37 < blindcoder> kasc: there's one occurance of someone surviving a "Ground Touch" - hitting the gruond after the ... "Fallschirm" ... didn't open
21:38 < aszlig> blindcoder: k youre right, scsi discs arent worth of that
21:38 < blindcoder> _s_uicide _d_evice _a_ ??
21:38 < aszlig> hrhr
21:38 < aszlig> ;)
21:38 < aszlig> :>
21:38 < _NULL> pah
21:38 < _NULL> keine anspielungen
21:39 < blindcoder> anspielungen?? _ICH_ doch nicht :P
21:39 < aszlig> *rotfl*
21:39 < _NULL> blindcoder: stimmt. du doch nie
21:40 < blindcoder> endlich siehstes ein :)
21:40 < _NULL> blindcoder: never.
21:40 < blindcoder> :P
21:41 < kasc> blindcoder: und was hat er gesagt, wie's war?
21:42 < _NULL> kasc: ???
21:42 < kasc> _NULL: na der Typ, der den Sprung mit kaputtem Fallschirm überlebt hat
21:43 < blindcoder> kasc: war ne frau
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21:43 < kasc> blindcoder: und deßhalb hat sie überlebt? *wunder*
21:43 < _NULL> kasc: ah so. na ja. frage doch den oktoberfestbesucher, ueber den die u-bahn gefahren ist, und der's ueberlebt hat... (siehe TZ)
21:44 * kasc ließt keine TZ
21:44 < _NULL> hmhm. egal.
21:45 < kasc> hat sich eigentlich schonmal wer an der dietlibc probiert?
21:48 * kasc detex: wohl nicht...
21:48 * aszlig hat noch n paar tage schlaf aufzuholen...
21:48 < aszlig> gnu8
21:49 < kasc> n8 aszlig
21:49 < _NULL> aszlig: bist du krank??
21:50 < _NULL> gn8. bye aszlig
21:50 * _NULL schmeisst sich weg: --> https://www.zyn.de/bushnsaddam
21:59 < blindcoder> wow...
21:59 < blindcoder> 44 Stunden fuer 1.5-CVS
21:59 < _NULL> blindcoder: hm? auf welcher kiste?
22:00 < blindcoder> auf meiner crazyhorse.... aber nur mit halber Prozessorpower
22:00 < _NULL> toll und iwe schnell ist die?
22:00 < blindcoder> die andere haelfte hat ein falsch geniceter ML-Donkey gefressen
22:00 < blindcoder> 1.8 GHz P4
22:00 < _NULL> *lol*
22:00 < blindcoder> sonst waer des schon gestern abend fertig gewesen *grml*
22:01 < _NULL> hahah ;P *blindcoderauslach*
22:01 < blindcoder> *_NULLknudddel*
22:01 < _NULL> NEIN
22:02 < blindcoder> hehe
22:04 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D641.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
22:04 < blindcoder> hoi tcr
22:05 < _NULL> tach tcr
22:05 < tcr> re all
22:05 < blindcoder> okay, und nu auf zum naechsten ROCK-Build :)
22:05 < tcr> moin ihr beiden..
22:05 < _NULL> blindcoder: have fun
22:05 < blindcoder> betsuni
22:06 < _NULL> blindcoder: german && english channel... nicht japanisch...
22:06 < blindcoder> betsuni = nicht wirklich
22:06 < _NULL> jaja. japanisch war's trotzdem... :P
22:07 < blindcoder> so desu ka.
22:07 < _NULL> haeh?
22:07 < blindcoder> hhehe
22:07 < blindcoder> so[,u] desu ka == is that so? == na und?
22:07 < _NULL> tcr: kak dela?
22:08 < tcr> ficken??
22:08 < _NULL> tcr: *g* wie geht's? ;P
22:08 < tcr> ne, jetzt ne
22:08 < _NULL> (kak dela = wie geht's)... um das sprach-gewirr mal zu vervollstaendigen
22:08 < tcr> naja
22:09 < tcr> gayt schon
22:09 < _NULL> tcr: ??? was gaytn jetzt ab?
22:09 < blindcoder> _NULL: Ogenki desu ka. (== Gehts dir gut?) waehrend: Daijoubu desu ka. (== Alles in Ordnung? (zum Beispiel nach nem Sturz))
22:10 < _NULL> blindcoder: hilfeeeeee!
22:10 < tcr> blindcoder: du sollst doch keine Produkte essen, die in Taiwan hergestellt werden...
22:10 < _NULL> tcr: s/Taiwan/Japan
22:11 < tcr> alles das selbe
22:11 < _NULL> noe. ned wirklich
22:11 < tcr> doch
22:11 < tcr> ferner osten, das reicht ;)
22:11 < blindcoder> tcr: y? WanTan-Kloesschen schmecken gar net schlecht
22:11 < _NULL> tststs
22:11 < blindcoder> aber ich muss mal fragen, welche Rasse sie da rein haben
22:11 < tcr> genau frag du mal
22:12 < _NULL> blindcoder: es gibt bald eine neue... tcr-zermetzelt...
22:12 < tcr> na igitt
22:12 < blindcoder> wiesoo? hat er dich *GEKNUDDELT* ?? *g*
22:12 < tcr> wer will das denn essen?
22:12 < _NULL> blindcoder: ruhe!!!
22:12 < _NULL> tcr: der blindcoder
22:12 < blindcoder> ruft mich wie ihr wollt, nur nciht zu spaet zum essen :)
22:12 < tcr> na iiiih
22:13 < blindcoder> also, ich hau mich ins bett
22:13 < blindcoder> oyasumi nasai mina-san!
22:13 < _NULL> blindcoder: tststs. gn8. bye
22:13 < tcr> also wirklich
22:13 < _NULL> blindcoder, du memme ! ;P
22:13 < tcr> gedeihe gut
22:13 < _NULL> tcr: irgendwie zynisch heute?
22:14 < tcr> normal
22:14 < _NULL> hilfe! ;)
22:14 < tcr> naja
22:15 < _NULL> hm?
22:16 < tcr> ach ich steh grad vor nem core dump
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22:17 < _NULL> tach hackbard
22:17 < Mike1> divxteam.de ...
22:17 < _NULL> hm. "i like core dumps"
22:18 < tcr> At least i know now where the reason of that core dump lays
22:18 < _NULL> hm.
22:18 < _NULL> tcr: haste songs von "letzte instanz"?
22:19 < hackbard> hi
22:19 < tcr> ich hatte mal welche in der queue, aber mehr auch ne
22:19 < _NULL> tcr: :-( danke.
22:29 < kasc> moin hackbard
22:29 < hackbard> moin ;)
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22:30 < defbla> rxr: zufaellig da?
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22:42 < hackbard> nick defbla
22:42 -!- hackbard is now known as defbla
22:42 < defbla> re :p
22:44 < [anders]> bedtime.. night night people..
22:45 < kasc> night [anders]
22:45 < [anders]> night kasc
22:46 < _NULL> gn8 [anders]
22:47 * tcr is listening to Rage - Set This World On Fire
22:47 < [anders]> gn8 _NULL
22:47 < tcr> jo gute nacht anders
22:47 < _NULL> tcr: kennst du "totenmond"?
22:47 < [anders]> guten nacht tcr
22:47 < tcr> _NULL: hm, nö ... müsste ich?
22:48 < _NULL> tcr: jep. gothic-metal... genial... ;)
22:48 < tcr> rage ist feinster metal... das unity album ist der hammer
22:48 < tcr> najo...
22:48 < _NULL> hm. muss ich die kennen? ;)
22:49 < _NULL> tcr: kennst du wenigstens tristania?
22:49 < tcr> so ein paar lieder würden sich lohnen
22:49 < tcr> joh
22:49 < tcr> hab world of glass original
22:49 < _NULL> tcr: ah so. rage against the machine?
22:49 < tcr> ista ber nicht so mein ding
22:49 < _NULL> hm. warum ned?
22:49 < tcr> ne, einfach nur Rage
22:50 < tcr> world of glass zumindestens ist nicht so besonders
22:50 < _NULL> hm. oki.
22:51 * tcr is dreaming to Lacrimosa - Alleine zu zweit
22:51 < _NULL> tcr: was hoerst du alles fuer musik? eher metal...?
22:51 < _NULL> oh ja, der song ist geil
22:51 < tcr> ich finde bei Tristina keine wirkliche melodie
22:51 < tcr> mir kommt's sehr viel auf die melodie an
22:52 < tcr> ne metall find ich eigentlich nicht so gut
22:52 < _NULL> hm. ich weiss ned. bei tristania laeuft's mir kalt den ruecken runter... die songs sind einfach... mama mia! ;)
22:52 < tcr> aber bei dem unity album von Rage ist der Refrain meistens ein Frauenchor mit sehr gtuen gitarren beats, das rockt
22:52 < _NULL> hmhm
22:53 < tcr> entwine find ich z.B. übersaumäßiighamergeil
22:53 < _NULL> sacht mir gar nix...
22:53 < _NULL> welcher stil ist das?
22:53 < tcr> hmm
22:53 < tcr> weiß ich nicht
22:54 < _NULL> tststs.
22:54 < tcr> ich kenn auch nichts vergleichbares
22:55 < tcr> totenmond klingt aber interessant... kann ich ziehen? ...
22:55 < _NULL> hm. /me leecht mal ein paar songs... ;)
22:55 < tcr> ich glaub es wär gut, wenn du mal ein ftp aufmachen würdest
22:55 < tcr> ich hab kein bock 8)
22:55 < _NULL> sorry. ne. im moment nix. sind auf meinem notebook... :-( --> kein ethernet im mometn
22:56 < tcr> hrm
22:56 < tcr> mal neu connecten
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23:00 < _NULL> re tcr
23:00 < tcr> welche lieder läds du dir grad runter? von rage?
23:03 < _NULL> nur das, das du nanntest
23:04 < tcr> empfehlen kann ich: dies irae, down, Set this world on fire und from the cradle to the grave
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23:04 < tcr> hm, ich lad grad totenmond - neonazi
23:05 < _NULL> hmhm.
23:05 < kasc> klingt irgendwie alles nicht allzu lebensbejaend... *find*
23:06 < _NULL> kasc: *ggg*
23:06 < _NULL> kasc: kein gothic/metal/rock-hoerer? ;P
23:06 < kasc> nicht wirklich
23:06 < tcr> solang kein hiphop/rab oder techno hörer, ist alles i.o.
23:07 < kasc> 'ich bin ein fröhlicher Mensch und höre fröhliche Musik' [tm]
23:07 < tcr> naja wer volksmusik gut findet, dem ist eh nicht mehr zu helfen :->
23:07 < kasc> ;)
23:07 < _NULL> tcr: *ggg* genau.
23:07 < _NULL> kasc: mit anderen worten: du hoerst pop?
23:07 < tcr> meine einstellung steht auch kontrovers zu dem Bild, was die meisten mit solch einer Musik implizieren
23:08 < kasc> Schunkelmusik ist nicht allzu toll, aber echte Volkslieder, insbesondere aus Irland oder Schottland, finde ich schon hörenswert
23:08 < tcr> nur als folkmetal
23:08 < kasc> _NULL: nein. Pop ist keine Musik, Pop ist Kommerz
23:08 * tcr rocks to Cruachan - Ossian's Return
23:08 < _NULL> kasc: hm. celtic ist imho auch noch geil... (loreena mckennit...)
23:08 < tcr> irish folkmetal
23:09 < kasc> oder Jazz, Klassik, 'Fernweh-Musik', ...
23:09 < _NULL> kasc: jazz && klassik sind auch genial. "fernweh-musik"?
23:10 < kasc> _NULL: dazu zähle ich Titel wie 'Adiemus' oder Künstler wie Enya
23:10 < tcr> uhi
23:10 < tcr> gothic ist nichts anderes
23:11 < kasc> tcr: der Unterschied ist der Grad an Depressivität...
23:11 < tcr> nur sind meistens die texte eher traurig und auf die Liebe oder den Tod bezogen
23:11 < _NULL> tcr: enya ist imho auch eher celtic...
23:12 < _NULL> tcr: z.b. mantus - daran kann 's sogar ein blinder erkennen imho...
23:12 < tcr> naja
23:12 < tcr> die sängerin von mantus singt ein wenig zu monoton, imo
23:13 < tcr> das hört sich an als ob die gekifft hätte und irgendwo anders wär %)
23:13 * tcr träumt zu ASP - Und Wir Tanzten
23:13 * kasc hat hier Herbie_Hancock/The_Complete_Blue_Note_60s_Sessions im Angebot *g*
23:13 < _NULL> tcr: hm? aber imho ist genau das, was mantus ausmacht... --> gedrueckte stimmung, traurigkeit, monotonie, resignation...
23:13 < kasc> 6 cd's
23:13 < Mike1> huebi: awake?
23:13 < _NULL> kasc: ??? whois is this person?
23:13 < tcr> find ich ne so dolle
23:14 * Mike1 needs huebi
23:14 < kasc> _NULL: Jazz...
23:14 < tcr> Mike1: who doesn't do it?
23:14 < Mike1> hi tcr
23:14 < kasc> _NULL: Hörprobe?
23:14 < Mike1> When will 1.5.20 be released?? /me needs journalized fs
23:15 < _NULL> kasc: hm. heute nimmer... ich lebe nicht mehr so lange heute...
23:15 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@pD9E50548.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:15 < kasc> sollte mit dsl recht schnell gehen...
23:15 < chrisime> mike1, ?
23:16 < kasc> aber die mp3's laufen auch nicht weg ;)
23:16 < kasc> (hoffentlich)
23:16 < _NULL> kasc: *lol* /me ist arme, geplagte isdn-userin *heul* *schnief*
23:16 < Mike1> chrisime: :)
23:16 < Mike1> chrisime: i am almost finished with the tut
23:16 < kasc> _NULL: soll ich nochmal mit bzip2 drüber gehen? *fg*
23:17 < Mike1> i am working around to include gnome2 extension to current tree so i we publish the tut and it can for sure be usefull
23:17 < _NULL> kasc: *lol* nee, danke... hast du den rechner aus vormittags an? wenn ja, dann leeche ich mir am mittwoch mal ein paar...
23:17 < chrisime> mike1, man! 1 week and still not done, lazy dude ;-))
23:17 < Mike1> chrisime: not really lazy just been busy with several stuff around
23:17 < kasc> _NULL: an prinzipiell schon, aber keinen zugänglichen server
23:18 < Mike1> chrisime: but i do have in mind my commitment to finish the tutorial
23:18 < kasc> hatte in letzter Zeit recht viele Attacken...
23:18 < chrisime> mike1, ;-)
23:18 < _NULL> kasc: das ist natuerlich schlecht... :-(
23:18 < kasc> hab heute alleine 117M in meiner /var/log/messages gehabt ;)
23:18 < tcr> "und wir tanzten im schnee vergangnes jahr, und der mond schien sanft in deinem haar, und es tut auch kaum mehr weh, wenn ich alles vor mir seh, als ob's letzte nacht gewesen sternen klar. deine haut und stolz bleibt mir schon lang nicht mehr, ich gänbe alles für ein zaubermittel her, als dass dich mich liebe macht, länger als nur eine nacht, doch meine arme und nächte bleiben leer. Nur dieses eine mal noch schenk mir kraft für einen neuen t
23:18 < tcr> ag, ich stehe nackt und hilflos vor dem morgen, nie war ich so stark; nur einen tag noch kraft und ich reiß all die mauer ein, nur wer sich öffnet lässt auch die liebe in sich ein... "
23:18 < tcr> *träum*
23:18 < _NULL> oh. sweet. was machst du denn mit denen?
23:19 < _NULL> tcr: welcher song?
23:19 < tcr> s.o.
23:19 * _NULL plays: anicent - satanschildren
23:19 < _NULL> s/anicent/ancient
23:20 < kasc> _NULL: mit den logfiles?
23:20 < _NULL> lycantroph ist imho geil
23:20 < _NULL> kasc: jo. klar.
23:20 < kasc> _NULL: echo >/var/log/messages
23:20 < kasc> ;)
23:20 < _NULL> kasc: *loool* warum 117 mb... --> ursache dafuer?
23:21 < kasc> Oct 7 23:06:43 Moria kernel: denied incoming tcp: IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=62.57.17.244 DST=80.144.162.50 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x20 TTL=113 ID=53458 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1039 DPT=4899 WINDOW=16384 RES=0x00SYN URGP=0 <-- und ziemlich viel von sowas...
23:22 < kasc> ziemlich sehr viel ;)
23:22 < tcr> lol
23:22 < tcr> iptables zuviel loggen gelassen?
23:22 < _NULL> hehe :)
23:22 < kasc> tcr: dabei hab ich da schon ein recht restriktives -m limit davor gesetzt ;)
23:24 * _NULL plays: totenmond - ragnarok *herumspring*
23:24 * tcr is listening to Die Apokylptischen Reiter - The March Of Revenge
23:26 < tcr> test
23:26 < tcr> ping?
23:26 < _NULL> test failed...
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23:26 < tcr> ah
23:27 * tcr is listening to Eisregen - Dreizehn
23:28 * _NULL plays: wolfsheim - kuenstliche welten
23:29 < _NULL> *heul* *heul* *heul* dieser song hat was
23:29 < kasc> was hat der song denn?
23:29 < tcr> das gewisse etwas
23:29 < _NULL> kasc: hm. der text passt irgendwie... zu meinem leben ein wenig... etc.
23:31 < kasc> _NULL: ein Lied über eine künstliche Welt passt zu deinem Leben? chatsüchtig? *g*
23:31 < _NULL> https://mordeth.pankurokku.com/journal/lyrics/wolfsheim--artificial_worlds.php
23:31 < _NULL> kasc: les' durch...
23:32 < tcr> theatre of tragedy - tanz der schatten ist auch sehr gut
23:32 < _NULL> kasc: eher computersuechtig
23:32 < kasc> oweh... *X hochfahr*
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23:34 < tcr> moin LocalHero
23:34 < _NULL> tach LocalHero
23:34 < LocalHero> Hello :)
23:34 < Mike1> LocalHero: hi
23:35 < LocalHero> Has anybody tryed to port rocklinux to powerpc or macintosh?
23:35 < kasc> moin LocalHero
23:36 < kasc> _NULL: jemand (oder du selber) hat dir eine tolle Scheinwelt erschaffen? *wildvermut*
23:36 < _NULL> kasc: huh?
23:36 < kasc> _NULL: na das hab ich so beim Überfliegen aus dem Text gezogen...
23:37 < tcr> mist
23:37 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49FE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos")
23:37 < _NULL> kasc: nope. leider ned. ich traeume mehr oder weniger davon... na ja. bzw. diese zeit gab's kurz... aber wieder "zerbrochen"
23:38 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812F6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:38 < tcr> _NULL: gib nochmal url zu dem text
23:38 < kasc> och, mit einer mathematischen Lebenseinstellung kann man sich ganz leicht eigene tolle Welten erschaffen ;)
23:38 < _NULL> https://mordeth.pankurokku.com/journal/lyrics/wolfsheim--artificial_worlds.php
23:39 < fake> *ARGH*
23:39 < _NULL> kasc: klar. oder mit der informationstechnischen... nur leider habe ich trotzdem noch zu viel zeit zum nachdenken
23:39 < _NULL> fake: was?
23:39 < fake> MANN
23:39 < _NULL> fake: was meckerste denn?
23:39 < fake> ../config.h:3:3: #error "glibc cannot be compiled without optimization"
23:40 < fake> how the hell could _ANY_ compile using the pseudo-crosscompiler ever work?
23:40 * fake doesnt get it
23:40 < kasc> _NULL: die Zeit kann man gut damit verbringen, der Welt einfach zuzusehen, statt sich immer nur selbst zu beobachten. ;)
23:40 < fake> kasc: *applaudier*
23:40 < _NULL> kasc: hm. verzichte ich drauf.
23:41 < kasc> fake: danke :)
23:41 < _NULL> *grml*
23:41 < fake> clifford or rene or jimmy aren't here by chance?
23:42 < kasc> _NULL: 'die Welt ist schön! du mußt nur hinschauen' [tm]
23:42 < kasc> ;)
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23:42 < _NULL> kasc: *lol* klar. schoen. wo? nirgends.
23:42 < tcr> meine eigene welt schon %) *fg*
23:42 < fake> wir sind der singende, tanzende abschaum der welt...
23:42 < kasc> _NULL: also die Welt um mich herum ist schön ;)
23:43 < _NULL> fake: ? wer ?
23:43 * tcr singt und tanzt efreut sich seines Daseins als Abschaum... juhu
23:43 < kasc> so, mal sehen, ob mein derzeitiger rock build noch heute nacht mit 'nem Fehler unterbricht oder erst morgen...
23:43 < _NULL> kasc: meine rechner auch. aber was nuetzen mir 6 (bald 7) rechner, wenn der rest nur schrott ist?
23:44 < kasc> _NULL: besteht deine Welt denn nur aus Rechnern?
23:44 * fake denkt an das wort "egozentrik"
23:44 < _NULL> kasc: jep.
23:44 < _NULL> fake: warum denn?
23:44 < fake> nur so
23:45 < tcr> was ist dabei?
23:45 < _NULL> fake: glaub' ich ned. raus mit der sprache
23:45 < tcr> ich kümmer mich um mich, und nur um all das, was mir von vorteil sein könnte
23:45 < tcr> und dass ich ein arschloch bin, weiß ich
23:45 < fake> warning: Warning: GDB can't find the start of the function at 0x55581320.
23:46 < kasc> _NULL: hat der Raum mit deinen Rechnern ein Fenster?
23:46 < fake> mir, meine, ich, mich sind die harufigsten woerter in meinen saetzen..
23:46 < tcr> fake: übrigens, egozentrismus ist nomen zu egozentrisch ;-P
23:46 < _NULL> fake: na und?
23:47 < _NULL> kasc: jep. aber mit rollo (zu)
23:47 < fake> tcr: fsck neue rechtschreibung, bei mir heisst des egozentrik ;P
23:47 < kasc> _NULL: was ist denn jenseits des Fenters?
23:47 < tcr> gibst nicht
23:47 < fake> neologismus herrscht.
23:47 < _NULL> kasc: ein kellerabgang...
23:48 < fake> egozentrik(C)
23:48 < tcr> kasc: man, wenn sie kein bock hat, sich an der welt zu ergötzen, dann ist das ihre Angelegenheit, ihr pech, ihr bier
23:48 < kasc> _NULL: oh, na dann kann ich verstehen, daß die Rechner interessanter sind *g*
23:48 < fake> OpenLanuage compliant license
23:49 < fake> *Language
23:49 < kasc> tcr: sicher, sagt auch keiner was gegen
23:49 * tcr is listening to Die Apokalyptischen Reiter - Vom Ende Der Welt
23:49 < tcr> ;0)
23:49 < _NULL> oder auch genannt: rechtschreibreform... kann eh keiner mehr deutsch
23:49 < tcr> doch, ich schon
23:50 < fake> na wenigstens schreibt man fsck noch nicht mit doppel-k und ypsilon.. oder vogel-v
23:50 < tcr> ?
23:50 < fake> vykken?
23:50 < _NULL> das ist ja auch nicht deutsch. die briten haben noch keine gestoerten sprachwissenschaftler
23:50 < fake> wie schaut denn des aus. *schauder*
23:50 < tcr> hä
23:50 < fake> FICKEN!
23:50 < tcr> okay
23:50 < fake> *argh* *brettervondenkoepfenreisst*
23:50 < tcr> bück disch, du made
23:51 * fake *feuermach*
23:51 * fake geht
23:51 < fake> bis denne
23:51 < tcr> schon?
23:51 < _NULL> bye fake
23:51 < fake> hmhm, noch Andromeda Staffel 3 erste folge anschauen mag
23:51 < tcr> das suckt doch
23:51 < fake> vorher noch boese mail an die liste *g*
23:52 < _NULL> fake: have fun. gn8
23:52 * fake ist anderer meinung
23:52 < fake> n8!
23:52 < tcr> jojo schlag guat
23:52 < tcr> erm, schlaf
23:54 < kasc> n8 fake
23:57 < kasc> so, bin auch mal weg... hoffentlich wärmt der build heut nacht genug...
23:57 < _NULL> ist samba eigentlich in der 1.5.19.iso drinne?
23:58 < _NULL> bye kasc. gn8
23:59 < th> _NULL: ja muesste
23:59 < th> RCS file: /home/rockcvs/cvs/rock-1.5/base-config/samba/samba.pz,v
23:59 < th> symbolic names:
23:59 < th> rock-src-1_5_19: 1.1.0.2
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