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00:53 < tsa> cu all.
00:53 < tsa> time to get some sleep.
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03:23 < mnemoc> hello
03:23 < mnemoc> anybody awake?
03:24 < mnemoc> do you know where should i get this package? package/base/glibc22/glibc22.desc 1.7
03:30 < mnemoc> ...
03:30 < mnemoc> :(
03:30 < mnemoc> good nights
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05:00 < Mike1> moin
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05:39 < d3mian> re
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06:38 * Mike1 ping @ [anders] 
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09:23 < tsa> moin.
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09:26 < tsa> moin kasc
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09:33 < blindWorker> moin
09:34 < tsa> hi blindWorker
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09:44 < blindWorker> moin tsa
09:44 < blindWorker> bah... I need more coffee....
09:44 < blindWorker> almost falling asleep...
09:51 < blindWorker> d'ouh
09:51 < blindWorker> I'm so damn stupid...
09:52 < blindWorker> gcc cross-compiler for sprac64 has the /usr/lib64 path hardcoded...
09:52 < blindWorker> there's a patch for glibc 2.2.5 to workaround this...
09:52 < blindWorker> that patch exists both for x86_64 and sparc64...
09:53 < blindWorker> And this idiot (namely me) applied the x86_64 patch and wondered why sparc64-build still does not work *d'ouh*
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09:59 < capchaos> hi
10:01 < blindWorker> hi cap
10:01 * blindWorker <-- telephone
10:01 < capchaos> blindWorker: 0190.. ?
10:05 < blindWorker> betsuni... not realy
10:05 < blindWorker> a customer just called in
10:05 < blindWorker> 0190 are blocked by the telephone-system :(
10:06 < capchaos> too bad
10:06 < blindWorker> yeah..
10:07 < blindWorker> and I would really need a ssh-connection through the http-proxy...
10:07 < tsa> transconnect.
10:08 < blindWorker> what's that?
10:08 < blindWorker> I'd say htun, but I don't have a linux box, just solaris
10:14 < esden> hi all
10:15 < blindWorker> hi esden
10:15 < blindWorker> esden: read above... about me being stupid
10:17 < blindWorker> transconnect... SSSWWW333333TTT
10:21 < blindWorker> TSA!!!!
10:21 < tsa> ?
10:22 * blindWorker GIVES TSA A REALLY BIG HUG
10:22 < tsa> hehe
10:23 < blindWorker> that thing just shoots holes through a firewall/proxy like a Machinegun
10:27 < esden> Jan Veninga added to the gallery
10:27 < blindWorker> good
10:28 < blindWorker> esden: read above?
10:28 < esden> yes ...
10:28 < esden> *no comment*
10:28 < blindWorker> I can fix it from here thanks to tsa :)
10:28 < blindWorker> he showed me transconnect :)
10:29 < tsa> hehe
10:29 < esden> tztz ... blindWorker the proxy/firewall killer ;-)
10:30 < esden> blindWorker: ifnally you can make productive work during the day ;-)
10:30 < blindWorker> hehe
10:32 < blindWorker> I just have to make ssh accept the library
10:35 < fake> hi
10:36 < fake> esden: where is your polish locale?
10:37 < fake> blindWorker: multihead console, anyone?
10:37 < fake> ;)
10:40 < blindWorker> fake: not yet, why?
10:41 < fake> blindWorker: the console layer rewrite supports this, along with hotplugging gfx cards on console-level ;)
10:42 < blindWorker> ?_?
10:42 < blindWorker> hotplugging.... gfx cards???
10:42 < blindWorker> sw33t
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10:46 < fake> o in 2.5.31 Support insane number of processes (Linus Torvalds)
10:46 < fake> *lol*
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10:49 < fake> re rene
10:50 < esden> hi fake 
10:50 < esden> hi rxr 
10:51 < esden> fake: it is in /home/weasel/projects/bWF2/web/WEB-INF/classes/i18nResources_pl.properties
10:52 < esden> please take it ... try to make it working and check in ... if you like
10:52 < fake> esden: ok
10:53 < fake> there is a bug in that file ;)
10:53 < fake> LOGINFAILED is in twice
10:53 < esden> aha ?
10:53 < esden> uuups
10:53 < esden> that could be the problem
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10:55 < fake> nope
10:55 < fake> that's not a problem.
10:56 < esden> hmm ... but the start site is working in polish now
10:56 < esden> only I have no locale to choose in the user profile
10:56 < esden> ok ... I go for lunch I am TERRIBLY hungry
10:56 < esden> cu l8er guys
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11:02 < fake> esden: according to ISO-639 and ISO-3166 the correct value would be pl_PL
11:10 < blindWorker> fake: yes it did work
11:10 < blindWorker> but my xterm crashed
11:13 < fake> uh
11:14 < blindWorker> ah well, shit happens
11:14 < blindWorker> that thing shoots holes into a firewall/proxy like a machinegun through paper
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11:30 < thokra> hi everybody
11:31 < capchaos> hi thokra
11:31 < blindWorker> hi thokra
11:33 < thokra> blindWorker: sorry - but which time you have actually
11:40 < blindWorker> 11:40
11:40 < blindWorker> AM
11:48 < blindWorker> be left back
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11:53 < blindWorker> ok, back
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12:13 < fake> cvs is a spambot...
12:13 < fake> at least on apollo ;)
12:14 < blindWorker> hehe
12:14 < blindWorker> cvs doesn't spam
12:14 < blindWorker> mailboxes.
12:14 < blindWorker> ople spam mboxes
12:14 < blindWorker> people
12:15 < blindWorker> lieber net
12:18 < aszlig> re
12:18 < aszlig> blindWorker: hullo
12:19 < huebi> moin
12:25 < huebi> to which package belongs: libpopt.so.0 ?
12:30 < [anders]> huebi: popt ?
12:30 < [anders]> moin huebi  :)
12:31 < huebi> [anders]: moin ;-)
12:31 < huebi> hmm. I'll test it.
12:31 < [anders]> huebi: /me is currently trying to compile Gnome 2.1... having lots of fun disabling gnome 1.4 packages that no longer is valid..
12:32 < [anders]> Going to try newer versions of all packages in base that need gtk+
12:32 < [anders]> (that does not already compile with gtk+ 2.1.0 :)
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12:36 < blindWorker> one should apply patches in the right directory, or they screw up
12:37 < blindWorker> +++ libc/linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sparc/sparc64/Makefile is just plain WRONG
12:37 < blindWorker> especially if you are in the libc-directory...
12:37 * blindWorker looking like this http://apollo.bingo-ev.de/blah.gif
12:43 < fake> kuhl
12:43 < fake> if i am lucky i can soon connect a cassiopeia to my cassiopeia ;))
12:56 < fake> btw, has clifford been banned from #rocklinux ?
13:00 < huebi> fake: I think not. But he does not like irc. For him it's a waste of time he said a few months ago.
13:05 < fake> well, the information is a but unfiltered, that's right.
13:05 < fake> s,but,bit,
13:08 < blindWorker> hmm
13:08 < blindWorker> ah lunch is something good :)
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13:35 < blindWorker> ...
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13:36 < fake> aaaw! finally i have a crosscompiled "vmlinux" for my cassiopeia *jump*
14:04 * [anders] giving mozilla 1.2b a try..
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14:14 < huebi> [anders]: I just added 1.2b to my sources. If it compiles i commit it to the cvs tonight.
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14:19 < blindWorker> test :-)
14:19 < blindWorker> ah good
14:20 < blindWorker> :)
14:21 < huebi> blindWorker <- transconnect junky *ggg*
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14:23 < blindWorker> huebi: jepp :)
14:24 < blindWorker> huebi: this way I can now start ROCK compiles from work :)
14:24 < huebi> blindWorker: I used to use transconnect for allmost 6 months from inside a bank
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14:25 < blindWorker> hehe. yes, it's useful for making swiss cheese out of firewalls :D
14:25 < blindWorker> hi bluefire
14:25 < bluefire> moin
14:26 < blindWorker> at these moments I really love the "Datenschutz-Richtlinien" here
14:26 < huebi> hi bluefire
14:27 < huebi> blindWorker: You can also make a connetcion to your PC at home and use your PC at work from home. At least this must be possible.
14:28 < blindWorker> connection-hitchhiking?
14:29 < blindWorker> but if I want to do that, I just dial in into work ;)
14:29 < huebi> VPN, or stunnel or sth like that.
14:29 < blindWorker> well... if the comm-server is up again, that is...
14:29 < blindWorker> VPN would be nice... controlling the e10k from home and compiling ROCK there :D
14:30 < blindWorker> crosscompiling from sparc64 ti ix86 :D
14:30 < blindWorker> s/ti/to/
14:31 < huebi> hehe. "A normal ROCK Linux build needs about 20 to 22 mins for me.."
14:31 < huebi> including extensions...
14:31 < bluefire> huebi: was mach dein Multimedia Projekt?
14:31 < blindWorker> *lol*
14:33 < blindWorker> gebt mir mal ne eingebung...
14:33 < huebi> bluefire: Fertig. Und der Kunde ist begeistert. Alles so mit Icons zum anklicken (Super-DAU sicher!).
14:33 < blindWorker> ich muss per ssh ein script auf dem server redbull ausfuehren (als root)
14:33 < blindWorker> und das zweimal taeglich und nicht per cron
14:34 < blindWorker> ich will aber den daemon der das macht nicht als root laufen lassen...
14:34 < huebi> blindWorker: Die deamontools vielleicht?
14:34 < blindWorker> auf solaris...
14:34 < [anders]> okidoki.. I am trying to get something working with Gnome 2.1
14:35 < blindWorker> daemontools? welche meinst du?
14:35 < bluefire> huebi: Ich hab gedacht das ganze soll privat für dich sein... und jetzt? War das eine one-shot Geschichte, oder wird das Ding jetzt richtig vertrieben?
14:35 < [anders]> @ huebi
14:35 < blindWorker> hi [anders]
14:35 < [anders]> re blindWorker
14:35 < blindWorker> omg... I don't think I will get ANYTHING more done today... boss's birthday today
14:37 < huebi> bluefire: Der wird noch ein bischen erweitert und wird dann ein streaming server fuer Hotels. Sonst wird der Server in Homeautomationprojekten eingesetzt. Er ist also keine Eintagsfliege, der zweite ist auch schon fast in Auftrag gegeben.
14:38 < bluefire> huebi: fließt was davon zurück in die OpenSource?
14:38 < huebi> blindWorker: rock-1.5/ext-config/daemontools/daemontools.ext
14:39 < blindWorker> huebi: I'll have a look at it
14:39 < bluefire> huebi: ansonsten schonmal: herzlichen Glückwunsch zu dem erfolgreichen Projekt!
14:39 < blindWorker> and boy, cross-compiling for for sparc64 is a Pain in the Butt....
14:39 < huebi> bluefire: Es hat noch garkeine neue Software gebraucht. Ich kann aber vielleicht irgendwann mal ein Howto dazu schreiben
14:39 < huebi> bluefire: Danke.
14:40 * huebi still has to produce some documentation for that server...
14:40 < blindWorker> oh... the evil D-Word
14:41 < huebi> *LOOOL*
14:41 < blindWorker> brb... healing the PitB from gcc having hardcoded library-paths for 64-Bit cross-compiling...
14:45 < huebi> does somebody know the URL for viewcvs.cgi on cvs.rocklinux.de?
14:46 < blindWorker> back
14:47 < tsa> hm..
14:48 < huebi> moin tsa ;-)
14:48 < tsa> huhu huebi
14:48 < tsa> huebi: monitor rechnung schicken post geld ueberweisen froehlich sein?
14:49 < huebi> Au ja!
14:49 < tsa> hehe
14:49 < tsa> na denn mach mal.
14:49 < huebi> jo
14:49 < tsa> btew
14:49 < tsa> http://cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/
14:50 < huebi> dankoe
14:50 < tsa> -rw-------   1 rockcvs  rockcvsu   659456 Oct 10 13:10 /home/rockcvs/core
14:50 < tsa> hm... ;-)
14:50 < blindWorker> sw33t
14:51 < tsa> anyone need a core?
14:51 < blindWorker> does that mean viewcvs.cgi dumped core?
14:51 < blindWorker> aah... no thanks, dumped my own right now :)
14:51 < tsa> i don't know which program the corefile is from....see permissions, i can't read it..
14:51 < tsa> hehe
14:52 < Freak> Yo' momma's so fat, I have to take a plane, a train, and an automobile just to get on her good side!
14:54 < blindWorker> hehe
15:05 < [anders]> huebi: moz 1.2b seems to work, falls over on the patch for run-mozilla.sh, encase the $0 with double-quotes in the mozilla.conf and it should work. testing that now..
15:06 < huebi> [anders]: sounds nice
15:06 * [anders] been fighting with mozilla for the last few hours.. 
15:13 < blindWorker> [anders]: who won?
15:14 * huebi updates KDE to 3.0.4
15:18 < tsa> i'd rather suggest removing it ;-)
15:18 < [anders]> blindWorker: I think I am winning..
15:19 < [anders]> aiming to have no pre-Gnome2 stuff left by tomorrow..
15:19 < huebi> tsa <- evil wm freak! I knew it!
15:19 * tsa considers using twm again
15:19 < tsa> yes, twm is really nice and fast...it only lacks multiple desktops.
15:20 * [anders] wonders if it would be possible to select wether to build Gnome, KDE or neither from the Config
15:20 < tsa> (and i don't like fvwm..)
15:20 < [anders]> tsa: how about ctwm ?
15:20 < huebi> tsa: twm is for wimps. It still needs a mouse.
15:20 < tsa> don't know it.
15:20 < [anders]> tsa: or ICEwm ?
15:21 < tsa> hm..i don't like icewm, but ctwm looks promising.
15:22 < tsa> does anyone have a screenshot of ctwm _without_ any theme?
15:23 < blindWorker> ratpoison!!!
15:23 < [anders]> no... it's quite plain and I think solid color bg's..
15:23 < [anders]> @tsa
15:23 < [anders]> you get 8 vd's as standard IIRC
15:23 < tsa> guess i'll give it a try tonight.
15:24 < [anders]> it's quite fast, even on old equipment
15:24 < [anders]> and very configurable
15:25 < tsa> sounds good.
15:25 < tsa> i'm getting bored by all this gnome and kde bloat.
15:25 < tsa> eating up all my memory and being so slowwww..
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15:28 < [anders]> tsa: agreed, but some of the things in Gnome2 is quite nice. MetaCity is a nice wm actually, apart from the 'flipping and twisting box when minimizing a window' junk..
15:29 < [anders]> I suppose I should e-mail the writer and ask him how to switch that darn thing off..
15:29 < huebi> Here the one and only WM: http://evilwm.sourceforge.net/
15:30 < [anders]> huebi: a bit too stripped down I am afraid.. :)
15:31 < huebi> [anders]: ACK. It's really good for i386 with only 8MB RAM
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15:34 * fake uses ratpoison
15:39 * blindWorker uses rat-poison to kill off insects
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15:46 < huebi> I made some experiments with "screen". I think the normal compile options for the build are wrong. If I build it separate it works fine.
15:49 < [anders]> huebi: yeah, but wehn you have 512MB RAM and a P-III 750MHz, you can afford a somewhat better WM
15:49 < blindWorker> hmm... for me the usual Build-Pkg screen worked fine after turning off termlib (or was it termcap? which is older?) in ncurses-compilation
15:50 < blindWorker> [anders]: icewm is just fine for anything if you don't neet Xinerama
15:50 < blindWorker> s/neet/need/
15:51 < huebi> blindWorker: --with-termlib is now disabled in ncurses
15:51 < blindWorker> I don't know if that's enough... I used --without-termlib to be on the safe side
15:53 < huebi> blindWorker: Ok. I changed it to :confopt="$confopt --with-normal --with-shared --without-termlib"
15:53 < tsa> cu
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15:54 < [anders]> blindWorker: metacity works for me. :)
15:55 < blindWorker> huebi: okay, give it a try
15:55 < blindWorker> [anders]: haven't tried it yet...
15:55 < blindWorker> used KDE2 for 2 days, switched to icewm for a year, tried window-maker for a few weeks, switched back to icewm and stuck with it :)
15:55 < [anders]> huebi: mozilla 1.2b build..
15:57 < huebi> [anders]: kool. What did you need to change? Can you ddc me a patch?
15:57 < [anders]> huebi: I'll dcc you the .conf and the .pz, is that ok? :)
15:57 < huebi> [anders]: Yes, ok
15:58 < huebi> [anders]: Do the home-bookmarks.patch and set-ldpath.patch still work?
15:59 < [anders]> they appear to..
15:59 < [anders]> I only tweaked the gtk2 bit (you probably want to remove that line in the .conf file) and the patch..
15:59 < huebi> [anders]: I got the files ;-))
16:00 < [anders]> okidoki.. :)
16:01 < huebi> [anders]: no, I didn't
16:01 < huebi> [anders]: can you dcc them again?
16:02 < [anders]> huebi: sure. :)
16:03 < huebi> [anders]: can you dcc mozilla.conf again?
16:05 < [anders]> sure. :)
16:05 < [anders]> huebi: did you get it?
16:05 < huebi> ok. now I've got them
16:06 < [anders]> huebi: you will not need "--enable-default-toolkit=gtk2" if you are building with Gnome 1.4
16:08 < blindWorker> I HATE MAKE!!!
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16:08 < fake> i make hate!
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16:09 < blindWorker> if it wants TABs instead of SPACES at Begin-of-Line in a Makefile then WHY DOESN'T IT SAY SO??
16:09 < blindWorker> but noooooo, it complains about a "Missing Separator" *ARGGH*
16:10 < blindWorker> What do you want to use or apply [be-g] ? _
16:10 < blindWorker> f
16:10 < blindWorker> Who do you want to use your machine-gun on? _
16:10 < blindWorker> `cat /usr/src/make/AUTHORS`
16:11 < blindWorker> *GRRR*
16:11 < blindWorker> fake: you're on the train today?
16:12 < huebi> [anders]: Ok. Mozilla 1.2b is now commited to cvs. Also KDE-3.0.4 is commited.
16:12 < [anders]> cool :)
16:13 < blindWorker> be left back
16:13 < [anders]> huebi: is all the other changes committed as well, like the journaling filesystems, and all the other goodies?
16:14 < huebi> [anders]: I go to my office now. The changes for the kernel and the bootable iso are the things I want to do tonight.
16:14 < fake> blindWorker: of course
16:15 < [anders]> huebi: I might be grabbing your cvs tomorrow and have a play with it then.. :)
16:15 < [anders]> huebi: have a nice day today. :)
16:15 < huebi> [anders]: Thanks. mbuffer is also needed in 1.5 for tape drive use
16:17 < blindWorker> fake: okay, then I can tell you why GNU suxx
16:18 < blindWorker> GNU libc, GNU CC, GNU make... they suck  BIG TIME
16:18 < blindWorker> btw.: is there a possibility already built-in to apply patches only when CROSS-COMPILING to a specific platform?
16:19 < blindWorker> ie: only apply this patch if cross-compiling from a 32-bit System to sparc64
16:20 < blindWorker> I only found *patch.<arch>
16:21 < blindWorker> ah damnit, I'll just write it to glibc_custmain()
16:26 < [anders]> huebi: sounds like there are lots of changes coming in 1.5
16:26 < fake> klibc...?
16:26 < blindWorker> klibc?
16:27 < fake> if libc sucks?
16:27 < fake> a minimalistic c library inside the kernel... don't you read your newspaper?
16:27 < huebi> [anders]: mostly updates. but the kernel configuration stuff and the install disks will be completly new.
16:27 < blindWorker> it's not glibc's that it sucks, gcc makes it suck, so it sucks
16:28 < blindWorker> fake: only one day later... if at all...
16:30 < blindWorker> seems like that sicko-patch by redhat actually works... glibc seems to successful cross-compile to sparc64...
16:31 < blindWorker> at least the compile is going on longer than the last one... for about 3 minutes longer right now...
16:31 < blindWorker> *suspicious look*
16:31 < fake> blindWorker: when it starts generating locales, you are almost through.
16:32 < blindWorker> it's now going for 25 minutes...
16:32 < blindWorker> up till now it broke after 21 minutes
16:32 < fake> expect about 1.5 hrs max onn you config
16:32 < blindWorker> I think that's a good sign
16:35 < blindWorker> *yawns*
16:35 < fake> fresh:
16:35 < fake> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root      1588248 Oct 22 16:35 vmlinux-mipsel-e125-withramdisk-stripped
16:35 < fake> finally ;)
16:35 < fake> no more windows cd *mwahaha*
16:35 < fake> ce
16:37 < blindWorker> on your pda?
16:37 < blindWorker> hmm... sw33t... it currently runs through the patch-code
16:40 < fake> blindWorker: i will be able to test it when i get home - no connection possible here ;(
16:41 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux
16:41 < Mike1> re
16:42 < litost> what's up Mike1!
16:42 < huebi> moin Mike1 ;-)
16:42 < Mike1> hi litost nothing much, and you ?
16:42 * Mike1 checking mail
16:42 < litost> ehh...this Java poopoo i'm working on is somewhat functional
16:45 < rolla> Mike
16:45 < Mike1> @ rolla :)
16:47 < blindWorker> *argh*
16:47 < blindWorker> customers are so DAMN STUPID
16:47 < blindWorker> nothing but bloody ID10T-Errors!!
16:50 < capchaos> . o O ( hehe, maybe we should reincarnate the death penalty )
16:51 < blindWorker> sometimes I'd really need a button labeled 'E' on my phone...
16:52 < blindWorker> 'E' like "Let that dummys telephone _E_xplode
16:52 < blindWorker> hmm... maybe I could patch the HiCom...
16:53 < huebi> cu later / tomorrow
16:53 * [anders] is pondering how to do this.. galeon 2.0 is _only_ available in cvs, no archive to download anywhere.
16:53 < Mike1> huebi: moo und bye
16:53 < Mike1> [anders]: mm...
16:55 < [anders]> I'll check out from cvs, create a tar archive, get the cksum, compress it, tweak the .pz and then try and build it.
16:57 < praenti> hi
16:57 < Mike1> hi praenti
16:57 < Mike1> [anders]: good lets go for it remember to drop an email to our ML so we all can get the package and run a build
16:57 < blindWorker> hi praenti
16:58 < blindWorker> okay, I'm off
16:58 < praenti> argh my 1.7 dont compile ...
16:58 < blindWorker> c ya in about 3 hours
16:58 < [anders]> schure, I'll stick the package I create on my box, so it'll be available via http
16:58 < blindWorker> praenti: mine does now *smile* (well... cross-compile, but nevermind)
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17:07 < Mike1> hi NUMA
17:08 -!- NUMA is now known as SMP
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17:18 < fake> hi Multiquad ;)
17:26 < esden> hi all
17:26 < praenti> hi esden
17:26 < esden> ok me finally back in IN
17:26 < esden> hi praenti 
17:26 < fake> esden: co
17:26 < fake> works now
17:26 < esden> k
17:29 -!- term_emu [~pm@pD958B4C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
17:29 * fake -> off -> home -> pda+=linux -> bitz
17:30 < fake> esden: you @bitz?
17:30 < term_emu> hoi
17:30 < fake> na, will ask later
17:31 < esden> ak works
17:31 < esden> fake: respect ;-)
17:31 < esden> fake: /me bitz
17:31 < esden> fake: you ?
17:32 < esden> hi term_emu 
17:32 < esden> fake: ask later what ?
17:32 < esden> ahh
17:32 < esden> ok ... you are on the way ...
17:35 < Mike1> hi esden
17:35 < esden> hi Mike1 
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18:00 * praenti hopes that 1.7 compiles now
18:35 < esden> ...
18:37 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812895.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
18:38 -!- owl [~mail-spam@b51c3.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux
18:38 < owl> seid gegruesst (hi)
18:38 < tcr> moin all
18:38 < capchaos> hallo owl *hug*, hi tcr
18:39 < owl> hi capchaos, tcr
18:39 < owl> tcr: ned schon wieder
18:40 < tcr> 8) was
18:41 < owl> tcr: ?
18:42 < tcr> ???
18:42 < Freak> /nick _EINS
18:42 < owl> *g* hi Freak
18:42 < Freak> *wink*
18:42 < Freak> flüstern am tisch is unhöflich.
18:43 < Freak> ;)
18:43 < owl> aehm. ja. egal. ;P
18:43 < Freak> hehe
18:43 < Freak> sonst hol ich Knigge..
18:44 < Freak> pscht
18:44 < Freak> pscht jetzt!
18:44 < owl> knigge, knigge. /whois knigge - ach ja, _der_ knigge.
18:45 < Freak> jop
18:45 < Freak> genau der.
18:45 < Freak> un jetz is amol a ru do!
18:45 < owl> Freak: welche sprache wae denn das, fischkopp?
18:46 < Freak> eine stinkende.
18:46 < owl> ;PPP
18:47 < owl> eigentlich dachte ich ja immer, dass fische stinken wuerden... aber der herr (aka Freak) will uns ja eines besseren beleheren
18:48 * tcr freut sich Karten für die LOTR 2 premier bekommen zu haben und stimmt sich schonmal ein mit Blind Guardian - LOTR
18:49 < owl> tcr: cool. wann/wo ist die? woher hast du die karten?
18:49 < tcr> 16dez glaub ich
18:49 < tcr> wo ? hier 8)
18:49 < tcr> woher? beziehungen 8)=
18:49 < owl> haha. super.
18:50 < Freak> owl: diesen irrtum werde ich dir nicht nachtragen, nichtdestotrotz ist die bezeichnung irreführend.
18:50 < owl> *ggg*
18:50 < tcr> so eine findet doch in jeder größeren stadt statt
18:50 < tcr> ich meine _nicht_ die _offizielle_ premiere
18:50 < tcr> die eine woche früher stattfindet
18:50 < owl> tcr: ah so...
18:50 < Freak> tcr: dafür dürftest du keine karten bekommen ;)
18:50 < tcr> kein bock nach berlin zu trampen
18:51 < tcr> ahwas 8)=
18:51 < Freak> hehe
18:51 < owl> *gg* nach berlin? sofort ;)
18:51 < owl> zahlt mir die anreise, hotel (aber dann bitte gleich 2 wochen) und die eintrittskarten, dann bin ich dort ;P
19:14 < d3mian> hi all
19:15 < capchaos> buenas noches d3mian
19:15 < owl> hi d3mian
19:16 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD9E490F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:17 < d3mian> hi thalerim
19:17 < thalerim> sers d3mian
19:19 < huebi> re
19:20 < d3mian> hi huebi
19:20 < thalerim> wb
19:20 < huebi> hi d3mian
19:20 * thalerim fetching sth. to drink
19:21 < owl> hi huebi
19:21 < huebi> hi owl
19:22 * thalerim is rocking to Children of Bodom - Touch Like Angel Of Death
19:24 * d3mian listens Marduk - Funeral Bitch
19:25 < thalerim> yes!
19:26 * capchaos listens Apocalyptica - Inquisition Symphony
19:30 * Freak doesn't listen at all.
19:31 < thalerim> no wonder, you're a sucker
19:31 < thalerim> [maent literatually]
19:31 < owl> *g* thalerim, you are _so_ right ;)
19:31 < thalerim> [meant literally]
19:32 * thalerim is kicking tcr's ass... fuck off ghost
19:32 < owl> thalerim: didn't you register the nick?
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19:34 < tcr> this is the second time you asked
19:34 < tcr> and still, no
19:34 < Freak> tcr: du bist ein literatürliches arschloch.
19:35 < huebi> moment, please. I need a beer first - then fight!
19:35 < tcr> c'mon guy, keep kool, lean down.. and suck
19:35 * Freak sharpens his teeth
19:35 < tcr> just do your job
19:35 < tcr> just do what you're paid for ;P
19:38 * owl listens nightwish - end of all hope
19:38 < owl> what a song!
19:39 < tcr> Freak: hey where do you remain
19:39 < tcr> Freak: yoga fan? 8)
19:39 < owl> tcr: uhuh. you are evil ;P
19:41 < Freak> what am I supposed to say or do?
19:41 < capchaos> Freak: eat him!
19:42 < Freak> I ate a baby this morning
19:42 < Freak> /nick FatBastard
19:42 < Freak> ;)
19:42 * tcr enjouys his evil trait and is listening to Childern of Bodom - Hate me!
19:42 < capchaos> thats why you as if you would get one?
19:42 < capchaos> +look
19:43 < owl> np: iced earth - frankenstein
19:43 < tcr> Freak: c'mon ... there were times you weren't that boring and unimaginative
19:44 < Freak> capchaos: huh?
19:45 < Freak> tcr: I'm not as childish as you are, sorry :)
19:45 < tcr> no wonder, you're a sucker
19:45 < tcr> and whoever claims me to be infantile, well. I am.
19:46 < tcr> I am the re-incarnation of the devil in a very infantile manner
19:47 < Freak> like Dr. Evil?
19:47 < tcr> that's okay... *slaugthering*
19:47 < Freak> (literaturally)
19:48 * tcr feels a evil wave passing trough his body an listens to Dimmu Borgir - Hybrid Stigmata
19:48 < tcr> Dr. Evil .. is that the new psychiater for owl?
19:49 < owl> tcr: heh!
19:49 * owl kills tcr with "blicke"
19:49 < Freak> lol
19:50 * Freak kills tcr softly with his words.
19:52 < tcr> just two crazy people more wanting me to be killed
19:52 < Freak> not wanting but doing it.
19:52 < Freak> (softly)
19:52 < Freak> (with their song)
19:53 < owl> tcr:  i'm not crazy
19:53 < Freak> (naaaah.. na-naaahaa.. nanananaaa nanaaa nananaaa-hahahaaaaaa)
19:53 < tcr> ..still waiting
19:54 * tcr wants huebi to share his good with /me
19:56 < tcr> Freak: ;P schlechte leistung heute...
19:56 * tcr is cooking now.
19:57 * Freak has brought tcr to the cooking. sweet.
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20:15 < fake> re
20:15 < owl> tag fake
20:16 * fake ftp's to his PDA ;)
20:18 < owl> huh? what are you doing?
20:18 -!- ripclaw [~ripclaw@pD9522E63.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:18 < fake> backing up my data before installing linux ;)
20:18 < fake> hi ripclaw !
20:19 < ripclaw> helo
20:19 < ripclaw> hi fake
20:19 < owl> fake: on your PDA? casiopeia?
20:19 < fake> owl: from
20:19 < Mike1> @ ripclaw :)
20:19 < owl> *g* killing windows? ;P
20:19 * ripclaw running cables under tables
20:19 < fake> there is now an ftpserver running on it and i dialed in with pppd from my notebook...
20:19 < ripclaw> hi mike
20:19 < d3mian> hi fake , ripclaw
20:20 < owl> moin ripclaw
20:20 < ripclaw> hi d3mian und owl
20:21 * litost has successfully managed to contort the semantics of C in Java (=
20:22 < owl> fake: evil but sounds cool
20:22 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@alexander.lunds.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux
20:22 < LocalHero> Hi all
20:22 < owl> btw, what would be with rock on mobile phones? wouldn't that be great? *cyn*
20:22 < owl> hi LocalHero
20:22 < LocalHero> Suddenly i get this error while running x11 over ssh :(
20:22 < LocalHero> Error: Can't open display: oggy:10.0
20:24 < d3mian> hi LocalHero
20:24 < fake> this is odd... sending is twice as fast es recieving...
20:25 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
20:25 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
20:25 < fake> hi blindcoder
20:26 < blindcoder> fake: on T-DSL sending is also 6x as fast as receiving :D
20:26 < blindcoder> if this doesn't work now then I'll patch the specs file by hand...
20:26 < fake> blindcoder: it crashed again?
20:26 < blindcoder> yes...
20:27 < blindcoder> it doesn't overwrite the specs file... so I'll kill all references to /usr/lib64 myself
20:27 < blindcoder> in a mail on a mailinglist totally unrelated to this problem I've found a hint that it just _might_ work
20:28 < owl> moin blindcoder
20:28 < blindcoder> moin owl
20:30 < owl> has someone experience with alsa && intel8x0 sound?
20:30 < esden> hi blindy
20:30 < owl> tach esden
20:31 < blindcoder> hi esden
20:31 < blindcoder> owl: nope
20:32 < owl> hm. this combination seems _not_ to work. (or it's another layer-8-error *g*) but i can do what i want. (also reading docs) - no sound... that's really bad. :-/
20:33 < blindcoder> you sure to use the correct devices? devfs? devfsd?
20:33 * -> esden is currently talking crap ... and all this crap has to do with university >_<
20:33 < esden> I am getting insain
20:34 < blindcoder> hehe
20:34 < blindcoder> everyone works as expected
20:34 < esden> and I love guys that are coming to a chat and doing so as thay were girls >_<
20:34 < blindcoder> @esden
20:34 < owl> blindcoder: yes. i think so. i can use alsamixer and set the volume and so on... but sound... uh... n/a
20:34 < owl> esden: wtf are you talking?
20:34 < blindcoder> hmm... have you turned up the volume on the hardware? :D
20:35 < blindcoder> esden is talking crap... as usual...
20:35 < esden> owl ... I am talking about someone in the bchat >_<
20:35 < owl> blindcoder: of course! in fenster i have sound... without any problems.
20:35 < esden> blindcoder: you are getting one more point on your "KillMe" list >_<
20:35 < d3mian> hi esden , blindcoder
20:35 < owl> esden: ah. i c.
20:35 < esden> hi d3mian 
20:36 < bluefire> hi ripclaw
20:36 < blindcoder> esden: that would add to a total of 1.433.876.234.042 point
20:36 < bluefire> ripclaw: was macht's lernen?
20:37 < ripclaw> hi bluefire. bin grad am lernen. deswegen latency :=
20:37 < bluefire> ripclaw: nanana.... beim lernen im irc... dann will ich dich mal nicht aufhalten.
20:41 < ripclaw> bluefire - ich lern nicht beim irc... ich idle hier nur.
20:42 < ripclaw> hast du evtl ne ahnung was ne appian ethernet fuer einen treiber bruacht ?
20:42 < esden> hi rippy
20:42 < esden> kann das sein das du mich versucht hast anzurufen rippy ?
20:42 < ripclaw> hi esden, ya
20:42 < bluefire> ripclaw: keinen Dunst
20:42 < bluefire> ripclaw: google
20:43 < esden> oha ... da war ich irgendwie abwesend ... und beschaeftigt glaube ich ...
20:43 < ripclaw> bluefire - yo, wenn ich da fuendig waere, fragte ich nicht :/
20:44 < ripclaw> esden - *BFG*
20:46 < esden> ripclaw: kannst mich jetzt im bitz anrufen wenn du lust und zeit hast ...
20:46 < bluefire> ripclaw: was sind das denn für Karten?
20:47 < ripclaw> keine ahnung, hab die kiste gekriegt, wie se is - sagt was von 1097:9200 Appian Technology Network Driver.
20:49 < bluefire> ripclaw: mal in der SuSE Hardwaredatenbank gesucht?
20:50 < fake> argh.
20:50 < ripclaw> hmpf. nee, grad die kiste rebootet - sagt 3c905c tx, aber der netzwerkdriver will nicht, weil kernel behauptet es waere eine appian... und die bauen nu mal nur grafikkarten
20:51 < fake> why do i get "Unable to open an initial console" ?
20:51 < fake> i had that once, but i forgot why...
20:52 < ripclaw> bluefire: reboot und es ist wieder ne 3com 905 c tx/tx-m. eklig
20:52 < bluefire> ripclaw: is wohl putt
20:52 < bluefire> ripclaw: oder halt mal eben kernel patchen
20:52 < ripclaw> nee, tut full speed. sogar unter bsd. linux is putt.
20:52 < ripclaw> evtl. sollt man keinen warmstart machen, sondern voll stopö
20:53 < bluefire> ripclaw: patch halt die ID in den Kernel rein?
20:53 < fake> keiner nen schimmer?
20:53 * ripclaw ahnungslos
20:53 < fake> das haelt mich vom rock-mips-image-boot ab ;)
20:53 * bluefire auch
20:53 < fake> console=/dev/console ?
20:54 < esden> ahh fake alive
20:54 < esden> ;-)
20:55 < d3mian> fake: cause consle is not in /dev/console , i think u have not mounted devfsd
20:55 < d3mian> but im not sure, just my guess
20:56 < bluefire> ripclaw: Du kennst dich doch mit sowas aus... Wie kann man einen C64 an einen modernen VGA Monitor anschliessen?
20:57 < ripclaw> bluefire: stromkabel verdrillen :) nee, mal im ernst, da geht nur cga oder amiga (C=1084) monitor. mit vga hab ichs noch nie gesehen. tv-in am pc ?
20:59 < bluefire> ripclaw: am C1084 hab ich ihn hängen... mal sehen...
21:00 < ripclaw> dann sollte er auch tun. wie warm wird der vic ?
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21:01 < ripclaw> bluefire: join cbm64. der channel is eh mir.
21:02 < fake> d3mian: shady, but it might be it
21:02 < bluefire> ripclaw: keine Ahnung. Das Problem ist nicht das der C1084 nicht tut, sondern das er auf meinem Schreibtisch zu viel Platz weg nimmt.
21:03 < ripclaw> www.c64.net oder org.  evtl hat wer nen umbauplan oder so. oder probier ueber tv-in auf der tv-karte.
21:03 < bluefire> ripclaw: die Qualität is dann zu mies.
21:04 < ripclaw> ouch. viel mehr gibts aber nicht. der hat 300x240 oder so in basis.
21:05 * fake haette noch non C128er monitor...
21:05 < fake> aber das passende kabel fehlt leider
21:05 < fake> belgegung steht aber im handbuch *g*
21:06 < bluefire> ripclaw: jo, aber mein TV-in is einfach mies.
21:06 * bluefire fudda
21:06 < owl> *g* moderner monitor? wie waere es mit TV ?
21:06 < owl> ging glaube ich am c64er... falls ich mich richtig erinnere... *gruebel*
21:09 < bluefire> Ich frag mich ob FBAS und S-Video was miteinander zu tun haben... was spuckt der C64 denn eigentlich as? Composite wohl nicht.
21:09 < fake> esden: machst du schonmal kaffee? *g*
21:09 < bluefire> Sein 3 Kabel... Ton, 2xVideo.
21:10 < ripclaw> bluefire - normales fernsehsignal, was genau weis ich nicht mehr. hat das bis morgen zeit ? hab noch handbuch.
21:10 < ripclaw> aber wo.
21:10 < fake> ich habs hier
21:10 < fake> vim c128
21:10 < fake> moment
21:11 < fake> isses der 80-zeichen oder der 40-zeichen-stecker>
21:11 < fake> es gibt ja 2
21:12 < fake> der 40er is Lumincance/Chrominance/Video
21:12 < fake> der 80er is RGBI SubD9, 15,625 MHz Zeilenfrequenz...
21:13 < ripclaw> pinbelegung auf pin-outs.com
21:13 < fake> oder in Anhang L - Seite 2
21:13 < fake> *g*
21:13 * fake kurz wech
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21:18 < ripclaw> bluefire: finde mein manual nich auf die schnelle.
21:19 < ripclaw> gotta go and log of, need someone to phyisically talk to about opengl stuff for university.
21:19 * ripclaw is back
21:19 * ripclaw is back
21:20 * ripclaw is away: AFK learning for university
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21:24 < owl> re
21:27 < bluefire> fake: das würde bedeuten, daß der 40er stecker wohl im Endeffekt ein S-Video Signal liefert (Luminance/Chominance) und das dritte Kabel is für'n Ton...
21:27 -!- Freak [freak@pD9E39C6C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:29 < d3mian> i though there were just me and Mike from amrica using ROCK, now i know there are guys from US and Chile .. and some colombian newbies with ROCK
21:29 < d3mian> :)
21:30 < Mike1> d3mian: yes we are around 8 people using it seriouly
21:30 < Mike1> there are 2 brazilians as well but i have not heard from then for a while
21:33 < d3mian> umm..  damn screen. now it works again :p
21:36 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0AEDD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:36 < d3mian> hackbard!!
21:36 < owl> tach hackbard
21:37 < hackbard> hi !
21:38 < Mike1> @ hackbard
21:40 < bluefire> Hmpf.
21:41 < bluefire> Looks like a C64 can output both: S-Video and Composite. But I don't have a decent cable for either.
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21:49 < LocalHero> Anybody know anything about x11?
21:49 < d3mian> LocalHero: maybe that terminal is busy or not placed in inittab
21:50 < d3mian> or x11 through ssh is missing in ur config
21:50 < LocalHero> d3mian, well i havent done anything except copied all files to another harddrive when my old one broke :(
21:51 < LocalHero> d3mian, doing ssh to another rock-1.4 host works fine. Running xclock will display a clock right away :(
21:52 < d3mian> Error: Can't open display: oggy:10.0
21:52 < d3mian> which is this hostname, oggy? remote one ?
21:53 < LocalHero> oggy is the server. I tunnel the x11 information to the client. And i have an xwin32 application that accepts connections from localhost
21:54 < d3mian> i see
21:56 < LocalHero> d3mian, hmm, kind of funny :(
21:57 < LocalHero> d3mian i have tried to do pkg-remove xfree86 and then install it again. Doesnt work :/
21:57 < Freak> hey what's those scripts you get on my nerves with "np: blah"?
21:58 < d3mian> well, i think u must set DISPLAY to localhost:0.0.. to tranfer X11 apps to the client (x11) .. but i dunno the way how that xwin32 app does
22:00 < LocalHero> Error: Can't open display: localhost:0.0
22:00 < LocalHero> :(
22:00 < LocalHero> Must be some authentication problem :(
22:01 < d3mian> dunno, sorry
22:01 < LocalHero> d3mian, well thanx anyway :)
22:14 < LocalHero> Hurra. Finaly, i had forgot to run xf86config
22:29 < bluefire> Good night
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22:36 < d3mian> cya
22:38 < LocalHero> cya all
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22:42 < owl> good night. cu
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22:43 < tsa> tag
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22:54 < owl> re
22:54 < owl> somebody still awake?
22:54 < tsa> no, doesn't seem so.
22:54 < tsa> hi owl.
22:54 < tsa> *hug*
22:54 < owl> hi tsa. Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. are you using alsa and 1.5.19?
22:54 < tsa> uhm...no.
22:54 < owl> (with 2.4.19 kernel)
22:55 < owl> thx. :-///
22:55 < tsa> 2.4.19, but no alsa stuff.
22:55 < owl> hm. that's bad
22:56 < owl> cuz i had a look to my problem with alsa... "no sound"... and if i'm running setup-script for alsa in 1.5.19 then i got a "depmod unresolved symbols..."
22:57 < tsa> hm..
22:58 < tsa> something missing in kernel config?
22:58 < owl> something with fs/nfs.o... but i have it configured in config... but we will see... compiling kernel again...
23:00 < owl> btw, tsa. how are you ?
23:01 < tsa> tired.
23:01 < tsa> very tired.
23:01 < tsa> could really need a warm bed for at least 4 weeks or something.
23:02 < owl> tsa: hehe ;) yes. a bed is something very useful ;) bed and books are even better imho ;P
23:03 < Mike1> owly many things can be done in a bed i agree
23:03 < tsa> ack. although i've never tried sleeping in a book.
23:03 < Mike1> hi tsa
23:03 < tsa> Mike1: for example?
23:03 * Mike1 away again
23:03 < tsa> hi Mike1
23:03 < Mike1> tsa: ask owly she knows
23:04 < tsa> hehe ;)
23:04 < owl> Mike1: *lol*
23:04 < owl> me? i know nothing
23:04 < tsa> ack
23:04 < tsa> *G*
23:05 < owl> tsa: you should better shut up. you re male. you have no rights. you even haven't the right to have an own opinion or tell your opinion to someone
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23:06 < kasc> re
23:07 < owl> hi kasc
23:10 < tsa> re.
23:10 < tsa> owl: uhm...well
23:10 < owl> tsa: don't complain about it.
23:10 < tsa> owl: you're null, which is equal to nobody. so since you are not "someone" i can tell you whatever i want to.
23:11 < tsa> :-PPP
23:11 < owl> _NULL = just a nick... nothing else
23:13 < tsa> owl = nick
23:13 < tsa> i understand.
23:13 < owl> zyniker ;P
23:13 < tsa> owl = nick carter from the backstreet boys, i guess *GGG*
23:13 < tsa> *duck*
23:14 < owl> TSA!!! do you wanna kill me?!!!
23:14 < tsa> am i supposed to do that?
23:16 < owl> tsa: aehm. nope. please not.
23:16 < tsa> hm...ok.
23:17 < owl> but you should tell me - if possible - why i can't hear sound... now the "unresolved symbols" i "fixed" and alsa-modules compiled in kernel. volume set up to highest level and mp3s are not defect and so on...
23:17 < tsa> turn on stereo.
23:17 < owl> huh?
23:18 < tsa> stereoanlage/aktivboxen anmachen.
23:18 < owl> grrrrrrr. it
23:18 < owl> 's in my notebook and the speakers are enabled
23:18 < tsa> it?
23:18 < owl> rtnl
23:20 < owl> argh
23:22 < owl> that's incredible. xmms doesn't complain about not having sound-devices and so on. modules are compiled in and everything should work... but i hear nothing. and this is not caused by my own deafness... :-//
23:28 * owl leaves you now
23:28 < owl> gn8. cu
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23:48 < Freak> sorry for the rejoining flood..
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