--- Log opened Sun Oct 27 00:00:57 2002
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00:25 < huebi> the xfs tools still need some more work.
00:25 < huebi> good night.
00:26 < tsa> cu huebi
00:26 < tcr> hm
00:26 * tcr is going to send a very large email to rock ml *g*
00:27 < tsa> a customer tried to send an iso image by mail last week....i hope it's not _that_ large...
00:27 < tcr> ~24kb
00:27 < tcr> ~45kb
00:29 < huebi> in the moment there are xfsprogs and xfsdump. xfsdump needs another package (dmapi)... I just make one big package for the xfstools
00:29 < huebi> but now I'm off. ;-))
00:30 < tsa> hehe..n8 huebi
00:30 < huebi> cu tomorrow. Then I start to build a new installation CD
00:30 < huebi> wech....
00:30 < tcr> sent 59.209bytes
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00:41 < tcr> tsa?
00:43 < tcr> tsa BEEP
00:43 < tsa> hm?
00:44 < tcr> kannst du mal grad die rock mailingliste abrufen?
00:44 < tsa> mail is schon angekommen..
00:44 < tcr> ich hab so ne doofe email bekommen von einer "Peuss, Sabine" <Sabine.Peuss@db-ig.com>
00:44 < tcr> Ich bin vom 14.10. - 01.11.2002 nicht im Haus.
00:44 < tcr> [...]
00:44 < tsa> jo....die frau ist zu daemlich, nen autoresponder zu konfigurieren..
00:44 < tcr> Ich werde Ihre Mails ab Montag, 04.11.2002 wieder beantworten.
00:44 < tcr> Ihre Mails werden nicht weitergeleitet.
00:45 < tcr> lol achso
00:45 < tsa> kenn ich, hab ich hier auch schon..
00:45 < tcr> hm, gleich mal in die killfile
00:46 < tsa> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:35:38 +0200
00:46 < tsa> From: "Peuss, Sabine" <Sabine.Peuss@db-ig.com>
00:46 < tsa> Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: [rock-linux] /scripts/Config with ¿parsing?
00:46 < tsa> ;-)
00:46 < tcr> ob ich mal diesen typen schreiben soll die da drunter erwähnt sind?
00:46 < tsa> hehe...nur zu ;-)
00:47 < tcr> [ganz sicher, dass das auch nicht owl ist?] *bbbg*
00:48 < tsa> hehe..
00:55 < fake> moin
00:56 < fake> nene, das is nich owl.
00:56 < tcr> schlaumeier :P
00:56 < fake> oder steht da Exchange als mailer oben drin? *g*
00:57 < tcr> internet mail service
01:01 < fake> *blinzel*
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01:05 < tsa> soo..
01:05 < tsa> off fuer heute, bier suchen gehen
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01:06 < fake> hi rene!
01:09 < esden> servuse all
01:16 < fake> esden: bin in 20 min. im bitz, spaetestens.
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01:22 < esden> ok cu l8er
01:40 < esden> re
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01:49 < Mike1> huebi: awake?
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02:00 < th> hmmm
02:01 < th> "ping: unknown protocol icmp." what's my problem
02:01 < Ge0rG> /etc/protocols b0rken/missing?
02:01 < th> ahh thanks
02:03 < th> hmm
02:03 < th> no.
02:03 < th> hmmm need to enter this in nsswitch...
02:05 < th> hmmm still not working...
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02:10 < th> hmmm libc should read nsswitch.conf, shouldn't it?
02:11 < th> ahh nss libs are missing
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04:07 < d3mian> re
04:36 < d3mian> stone.d ...
04:37 < d3mian> stone.d/scripts
04:37 * d3mian away
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07:27 < d3mian> one have to copy terminfo/screencap to /usr/share/term.../s/
07:27 < d3mian> after build screen package
07:28 < d3mian> that way it wor for me, i had this prob a long time ago. compile with --disable-socket-dir will be more secure and cool
07:28 < d3mian> re :p
07:40 < esden> urghs ... cliffooord ! >_<
07:40 < blindcoder> moin
07:40 < esden> hmm ... nevermind ...
07:40 < esden> hi blindcoder 
07:40 < blindcoder> esden: whats up?
07:40 < esden> blindcoder: nacht
07:40 * -> esden going to bed
07:40 < esden> ;-)
07:40 < blindcoder> oh boy...
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07:40 < blindcoder> oyasumi
07:40 < esden> blindcoder: ach ... clifford is adding glibc23 patches
07:40 < aszlig> rehi
07:41 < blindcoder> esden: so?
07:41 < esden> but when you select to compile with glibc22 these patches are being applied and nothing works
07:41 < esden> at least the gcc3
07:41 < d3mian> i got some probs building xfree86 with glibc2.3 :(, this is the only package with prob
07:41 < d3mian> hi aszlig, i got sme music for u
07:41 < d3mian> :)
07:41 < blindcoder> esden: moment
07:41 < blindcoder> esden: are you sure the config-option is being honored?
07:42 < esden> fake has finished his 1.7 build today ... and only had problems with some gnome stuff
07:42 < blindcoder> I still have problems booting my Sun from net >_<
07:42 < esden> blindcoder: it is not being honored while patches selection/application
07:43 < blindcoder> esden: I couldn't find ANY place where it is honored a week ago...
07:43 < esden> urgh >_<
07:43 * -> esden smacks clifford
07:43 < blindcoder> esden: of course that doesn't mean there ISN'T any
07:43 < esden> aha ?
07:44 < esden> o_O
07:44 < blindcoder> just that I didn't find it
07:45 < esden> blindcoder: grep -r ROCKCFGSET_PKG_GLIBC22_USEIT *
07:45 < blindcoder> hmm... I'm not sure... maybe I just looked in scripts/* ... don't remember
07:46 < esden> blindcoder you know that not all scripts are is scripts ... I hope
07:46 < blindcoder> like I said... I'm not sure
07:46 < esden> alpha:/usr/local/data/1.7/new/rock-src-1.7.0# grep -r ROCKCFGSET_PKG_GLIBC22_USEIT *
07:47 < esden> package/base/glibc22/config-400.in:             ROCKCFGSET_PKG_GLIBC22_USEIT=1
07:47 < esden> alpha:/usr/local/data/1.7/new/rock-src-1.7.0#
07:47 < esden> >_<
07:47 < blindcoder> erm...
07:47 < blindcoder> that means I was right...
07:47 < esden> terrible !!! argh !!! *ausrast*
07:47 < d3mian> esden: smack clifford ? :p
07:48 < blindcoder> esden: you know why I meant: "I' not sure if there will be a pre on CCC?"
07:48 < esden> blindcoder: this is only small stuff ... 
07:48 < esden> really
07:49 < esden> that is not such a big problem
07:49 < blindcoder> small stuff? Selecting a c-library is "small stuff"? Okay, you say it...
07:49 < esden> I think I can fix it in some hours ... and cliff can fix in in some minutes
07:49 < esden> but it should be done
07:50 < esden> blindcoder: it IS small stuff a c library is important ... but implementing a selection is not such a big problem ...
07:50 < esden> perhups I am wrong
07:50 < esden> but currently this is my opinion
07:50 < blindcoder> okay, go ahead
07:52 < esden> no not now ... I need sleep ... i will only produce junk at the moment
07:53 < blindcoder> you should get a normal sleep-wake-cycle
07:53 < d3mian> some of u have any idea how to make a c listener (or library) which log each file accesed ?
07:53 < esden> blindcoder: no you should ;-)
07:53 < blindcoder> hmm... a proposal... not actual code
07:53 < blindcoder> esden: don't even think about that. I'm happy as it is
07:54 < esden> :P
07:54 < blindcoder> well...  sorry....
07:54 < esden> ok n8
07:54 < blindcoder> you propably are happy with it, too
07:54 < esden> cu guys ... in some hours
07:54 < esden> blindcoder: yes I am ;-)
07:55 < blindcoder> d3mian: something like the flist_wrapper.so
07:55 < blindcoder> okay, I'm breakfast
07:56 < d3mian> blindcoder: ROCK flist does that ? ill have a look then.. thanx. umm.. yeah, ROCK flist should do it.. :)
07:59 < d3mian> cya
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08:55 < tcr> moin all
09:16 < blindcoder> rehi
09:51 < blindcoder> hmmm i just don't get it...
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09:54 < blindcoder> moin hackbard
09:55 < hackbard> morning
09:56 * blindcoder being stupid or what?
09:56 < blindcoder> what do I have to include for print ?? (C)
09:57 < tcr> stdio.h
09:57 < tcr> print? you certainly mean printf
09:57 < blindcoder> *argh*
09:58 * blindcoder _really_ being stupid
09:58 < blindcoder> thanks >_<
10:01 * blindcoder just compiled a static hello-world program to see why the kernel complains about "no init found"
10:02 < tcr> mostly a forgotten hd driver is the cause
10:02 < blindcoder> okay... the hello world runs...
10:02 < blindcoder> I'm booting via nfs
10:02 < blindcoder> and nfs gets mounted and the static hello-world executes just fine
10:03 < blindcoder> but the init itself won't run
10:03 < tcr> strace it
10:04 < blindcoder> how could I? it's a cross-build for sparc64 hosted on i686... I'm noww giving init=/bin/kiss and trying...
10:06 < blindcoder> hmm... strange...
10:07 < blindcoder> something really strange is going on here...
10:07 < blindcoder> ldconfig got signalled with sig 11
10:07 < blindcoder> erm... not good...
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10:18 < blindcoder> okay, building a kernel once more...
10:20 < blindcoder> masaka...
10:21 < blindcoder> be left back
11:01 < blindcoder> okay that's at least one step further...
11:07 < blindcoder> hmm nfs doesn't export symlinks, does it?
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11:15 < blindcoder> hmm
11:15 < blindcoder> somethings strange with the libraries...
11:16 < blindcoder> they all segfault...
11:17 < blindcoder> hmm... I could rebuild and compile everything static....
11:23 < blindcoder> but first I'll try something different
11:32 < hackbard> disable libsafe
11:35 < blindcoder> is libsafe in stage 0 or 1?
11:37 < blindcoder> libsaef is only compiled in stage 5, so I don't even have it
11:41 < hackbard> eeh, i just read that sig 11 prob - no that you are crosscompiling for sparc64 on i686
11:42 < hackbard> ofcourse u cant run sparc64 bins on i686 ... but maybe i get sth wrong here ..
11:42 < blindcoder> yes you can't, I'm nfs-root booting a Sun Ultra here
11:43 < blindcoder> I booted it with init=/bin/kiss
11:43 < blindcoder> in fact, any static program runs just fine
11:43 < blindcoder> but any other terminate with sig 11
11:44 < blindcoder> I think I got something wrong in gcc's specs file so that it built against i686 glibc's and not against the sparc64 glibc
11:44 < blindcoder> if that does not work, I'll really try compiling the whole lot static
11:48 < hackbard> the problem might be that you still cant build a 64bit glibc (or 64bit userland in geberal)
11:49 < hackbard> s/geberal/general/
11:49 < blindcoder> hmm... but then... why do static binarys run just fine?
11:49 < hackbard> but i didn't read ybout it a long time now, so ...
11:49 < hackbard> yes, rene reported that too sometime ago
11:50 < hackbard> that he has probs dynamically linking the 64bit glibc, but static ones work ..
11:51 < blindcoder> hmm... what about compiling the cross-build static and then on the sparc machine compiling the rest of the packages normal (ie. dlinked)?
11:54 < blindcoder> I'll give it a try :)
11:56 < hackbard> yes :)
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13:12 < term_emu> moin
13:13 < aszlig> re
13:13 < aszlig> wb term_emu ;)
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13:30 < blindcoder> *ARGH* THAT'S JUST A LOAD OF BULLSHIT!
13:30 < blindcoder> If I compile it dynamically it won't rnu
13:30 < blindcoder> If I compile it statically it won't COMPILE!!
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13:51 < blindcoder> hi Freak
13:52 * Freak (with stormy noise around him) says hi
13:53 < blindcoder> Freak: stormy?
13:53 < blindcoder> In Ingolstadt there still is not a single air-movement
13:53 < blindcoder> although everything is fastened to the ground
13:54 < Freak> yea well storm aproaches here first
13:55 < Freak> s/here/us;?
13:55 < Freak> vergisses jedenfalls gings um zwölf los
13:56 < Freak> der mann einer kollegin is feuerwehrmann und der is auf bereitschaft. die haben ab zwölf uhr erhöhte bereitschaftsdingens
13:56 < blindcoder> kann ich mir vorstellen
13:57 < blindcoder> naja, hier kann man dann wohl von "ruhe vor dem Sturm" reden
13:57 < blindcoder> Stromausfaelle?
13:57 < Freak> und es hat mich auch ganz schön durchgeschüttelt als ich grade nach hause fuhr
13:57 < Freak> noch nichts
13:57 < Freak> aber die warnung gilt von 12 bis morgen 12
13:57 < blindcoder> hauptsache heil angekomemn :)
13:57 < blindcoder> bis morgen mittag 12 uhr?
13:57 < Freak> jo war noch nix kaputt
13:58 < Freak> also keine bäume.. nichtmal zweige auf der straße..
13:58 < Freak> japp
13:58 < blindcoder> hmm... nur gut, dass ich ausreichend ueberstunden hab :)
13:58 * blindcoder trampelt ein wenig auf seiner SUN rum *grrr*
14:00 < Freak> und nen Regenbogen hab ich auch schon gesehen. ui jetzt wehts aber... ich hab noch pflanzen vor dem fenster.. hmm..
14:00 < Freak> huch
14:00 < blindcoder> sicher dass du die noch hast? :)
14:00 < Freak> in diesem moment nicht mehr.
14:00 < Freak> plumps.
14:00 * Freak geht mal aufräumen
14:01 < blindcoder> viel spass
14:06 < Freak> hmhm..
14:09 < blindcoder> is there a possibility to force core dumps?
14:11 < Freak> $ core --force=dump
14:11 < blindcoder> hae?
14:12 < Freak> n/m
14:13 < th> blindcoder: yes. just send a signal that causes core dumps
14:13 < th> blindcoder: man 7 signal;
14:13 < blindcoder> well... I have a kiss (that works) and every other programm I call gets segfaults
14:14 < blindcoder> according to that man sig11 _should_ coredump
14:21 < th> perhaps you have core-limits
14:22 < blindcoder> hmm... the question is: will it coredump if ld-linux.so.2 is at fault?
14:22 < th> blindcoder: and a programm can set handlers..
14:22 < th> blindcoder: so try some other coring signals
14:22 < blindcoder> I can't send signals... as soon as i start _any_ dynamic program it terminates with 11
14:22 < blindcoder> I'll just rebuild everything with glibc 2.3.1 and see what happens... *hope*
14:23 < th> ouhm
14:23 < th> write a static kill ;)
14:23 < blindcoder> *lol*
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14:24 < blindcoder> I tried to compile everything(!) static but binutils failed...
14:24 < blindcoder> maybe with new glibc and binutils...
14:25 < blindcoder> aaah, some wind is coming up
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15:46 < owl> seid gegruesst / hi
15:48 < blindcoder> hi owl
15:50 < owl> hi blindcoder
15:52 * owl listens: the exploited - fuck religion
16:08 < rolla> re
16:09 < owl> hi rolla
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16:09 < rolla> hallo owl
16:09 < owl> rolla: how are you ?
16:09 < rolla> tired
16:09 < c4y0> hi!!!!!!!!
16:10 < owl> hi c4y0
16:10 < blindcoder> hi rolla c4y0
16:10 < c4y0> hi every body!!!!!!! =)
16:10 < owl> rolla: hehe ;) tired = normal, isn't it? ;)
16:11 < rolla> yes
16:11 < rolla> that is so
16:11 < rolla> I am up way too early :(
16:12 < owl> rolla: *g* forgot to disable the alarm clock? ;)
16:12 < rolla> I can't
16:12 < rolla> I have baby remmber
16:13 < owl> rolla: ah so. i forgot.
16:13 < rolla> he goes off whenever he wants
16:13 < owl> rolla: *g* have fun with your baby ;PPP
16:14 < rolla> thanks
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16:21 < c4y0> i'm back! :)
16:24 < c4y0> i thing have troubles with my cd-rom.  how can install a minimalist rocklinux?
16:27 < c4y0> ?
16:31 < owl> c4y0: minimalist? you have to chose the packages you want to install, manually... if you type "menu" (?) after Install
16:31 < owl> and then you can select the packages which you want to install, there...
17:18 < blindcoder> THE SUN WORKS!!!
17:19 < blindcoder> THE SUN WORKS!!!
17:19 < blindcoder> THE SUN WORKS!!!
17:19 < blindcoder> YEEEAAAHHHH!!!!!!
17:19 < blindcoder> YAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
17:21 < owl> blindcoder: congrats ;P
17:22 < blindcoder> thanks :)
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17:42 < owl> c4y0: you are alive again?
17:42 < c4y0> yes
17:43 < owl> great. already installed rock?
17:44 < c4y0> rock dont wont install in my compaq!!!!!  :'(
17:44 < rolla> re again
17:44 < owl> c4y0: what's wrong with it?
17:44 < owl> re rolla
17:45 < c4y0> cant pass to 3 or 4 package
17:47 < c4y0> all say FATAL ERROR:
17:47 < c4y0> :(
17:47 < owl> aehm. in installation?
17:48 < c4y0> maybe is because i'm installing directly from the cdrom?
17:53 < blindcoder> *ARGH*
17:53 < blindcoder> Why is './' in my PATH=????
18:13 < esden> hi all
18:13 < owl> hi esden
18:13 < blindcoder> hi esden
18:14 < blindcoder> esden: THE CROSS-BUILD WORKS!! THE SUN BOOTS!!!
18:15 < c4y0> i thing to i have  trouble with the permiss
18:15 < c4y0> :S
18:15 < esden> blindcoder: respect ;-)
18:16 < blindcoder> esden: switched from glibc-2.2.5 to glib-2.3.1 and binutils some.freaky.numbers.here.10 and it worked like a charm
18:17 < praenti> hi
18:17 < esden> blindcoder: good
18:17 < esden> hi brand
18:17 < praenti> esden: i need some help from you
18:17 < blindcoder> hi praenti
18:17 < esden> praenti: what kind ?
18:17 < praenti> esden: the dietlibc does not compile
18:18 < esden> praenti: use uClibc
18:18 < esden> kill dietlibc !
18:18 < praenti> esden: always say invalid march. athpn and pentium3
18:18 < esden> dietlibc sux >_<
18:18 < praenti> ok.
18:19 < esden> ich habe zu viel zeit vergeudet mit dem scheiss >_<
18:19 < esden> haette schon lange her uClibc nehmen sollen
18:19 * blindcoder now trying to compile ROCK an an nfs-booted Sun Ultra (Cross-Build :)
18:20 < rolla> very cool
18:20 < rolla> blindcoder let me know if you want me to test iso or something :)
18:20 < rolla> I have a ultra sparc doing nothing ;)
18:20 < blindcoder> rolla: sure.
18:21 < blindcoder> I could make an iso which you can nfs-export (root-nfs) and init=/bin/bash and use
18:21 < praenti> argh. macht keinen cvs co oder update
18:21 < blindcoder> it has almost nothing in it (you can't even use scripts/Config due to lack of curses) but it works :)
18:21 < esden> praenti: ?
18:21 < praenti> egrep: package/base/linux/linux.desc: No such file or directory
18:21 < praenti> !> No linux: download/base/linux/linux-.tar.bz2 -> abort!
18:22 < rolla> cool
18:22 < praenti> beim cross-buiold
18:22 < blindcoder> praenti: you have to edit scripts/Build-CrossCC
18:22 < esden> praenti: 
18:22 < rolla> ;)
18:22 < blindcoder> linux="linux" has to be edited
18:22 < blindcoder> clifford has messed it up (again)
18:22 < esden> argh ... forget it ... otherwise I start to flame >_<
18:22 < blindcoder> rolla: you want it?
18:23 < rolla> sure
18:23 < blindcoder> okay, just a minute... tar.bz2 or .iso? i think tar.bz2 would be more appropriate in this situation
18:23 < rolla> sure
18:24 < rolla> tar.bz2 should be fine
18:24 < blindcoder> rolla: erm... the kernel (boot/vmlinux) is still in ELF... you'll have to convert it to a.out before booting
18:24 < esden> <PATCH FLOOD>
18:24 < esden> --- rock-old/scripts/Build-CrossCC      Sun Oct 27 06:55:51 2002
18:24 < esden> +++ rock-new/scripts/Build-CrossCC      Sat Oct 26 20:09:32 2002
18:24 < esden> @@ -71,9 +71,9 @@
18:24 < esden>  # Auto-Detect linux, glibc, binutils and gcc versions
18:24 < esden>  #
18:24 < esden> -pkg="linux"
18:24 < esden> +pkg="linux24"
18:24 < esden>  ver=`egrep '\[V\]' package/base/$pkg/$pkg.desc | cut -f2 -d' '`
18:24 < esden> -linux="download/base/$pkg/$pkg-$ver.tar.bz2"
18:24 < esden> +linux="download/base/$pkg/linux-$ver.tar.bz2"
18:24 < esden>  if ! [ -f "$linux" ]
18:24 < esden>  then echo_error "No linux: $linux -> abort!" ; exit 1
18:24 < esden>  else echo_status "Found: $linux." ; fi
18:24 < esden> </PATCH FLOOD>
18:25 < rolla> okay
18:26 < praenti> esden: no. thats not the problem
18:27 < blindcoder> praenti: yes it is
18:27 < esden> praenti: yes it is ... and it is tested 
18:27 < blindcoder> I've had the very same problem this morning
18:27 < blindcoder> clifford seems to add features without testing them _at_ _all_
18:27 < praenti> esden: no. the problem is that the desc-file is not here. so i get no version ;-)
18:27 < blindcoder> like: "Oh well, jsut throw it in"
18:28 < esden> praenti: argh
18:28 < blindcoder> praenti: package/base/linux2[45]
18:28 < esden> you are talking junk
18:28 < esden> there is no linux packet anymore
18:28 < blindcoder> praenti: open your Eyes, and you will see
18:28 < praenti> the kernel file are now under download/base/linux/linux-$ver.tar.bz2
18:28 < esden> NO
18:28 < praenti> i have checked that and thats true here
18:28 < esden> bullshit
18:29 * blindcoder opening his BS-Bag
18:29 < praenti> root@gutmann:/rock/rock-src-1.7 # cd download/base/linux/
18:29 < praenti> root@gutmann:/rock/rock-src-1.7/download/base/linux # ls
18:29 < praenti> .  ..  linux-2.4.19.tar.bz2
18:29 < praenti> there is the evidence
18:29 < blindcoder> then you have messed up
18:29 < esden> it should be in download/base/linux24/ directory
18:29 < blindcoder> why do you think base/linux/linux.desc is missing
18:29 < praenti> i have no linux24 directory
18:29 < blindcoder> then do a cvs up
18:30 < praenti> cause:
18:30 < blindcoder> for god's sake
18:30 < esden> then you have not used -Pd parameter for cvs up
18:30 < praenti> egrep: package/base/linux/linux.desc: No such file or directory
18:30 < praenti> !> No linux: download/base/linux/linux-.tar.bz2 -> abort!
18:30 < praenti> esden: ok. that can be. wait a moment
18:30 < blindcoder> praenti: linux is no more. it is replaced by linux2[45]
18:31 < esden> god let the brains rain ...
18:31 < praenti> can be that it was the Pd. we will see in a few minutes
18:32 < praenti> ok. it was the Pd. no the right directories are coming
18:32 < owl> re. hi praenti
18:35 < esden> praenti: ...
18:38 < praenti> esden: sag nix. normalerweise geb ich ja im verzeichnis cvs up ein und fertich. bei 1.7 geht das komischerweise nich
18:38 < esden> nicht komischerweise
18:38 < blindcoder> praenti: bei mir hat cvs up gereicht
18:38 < praenti> blindcoder: sollte eigentlich.
18:38 < esden> wenn verzeichnisse dazukommen oder weggehen dann musst du -Pd benutzen
18:39 < praenti> blindcoder: ich hab das gefühä dass mein co damals wegen schlechter leitung irgendein wasweißich abbekommen hat
18:39 < esden> P steht fuer purge (leere verzeichnisse entfernen) und d fuer verzeichnisse erstellen
18:39 < blindcoder> rolla: http://scavenger.homeip.net/sparc64_nfs_root.tar.bz2
18:39 < blindcoder> rolla: I suggest wget -c
18:40 < esden> stop leeching ;-)
18:40 < esden> @ blindcoder 
18:40 < blindcoder> esden: no fucking way
18:40 < praenti> esden: das macht er automatisch wenn du im co -verz. bist und cvs up eintoppst. ansonsten ist der cvs-server falsch konfiguriert
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18:41 < blindcoder> praenti: nicht falsch. anders.
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18:41 < praenti> blindcoder: ähh. sorry mein ich ja
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18:42 * blindcoder now Downloading several hundred packages for compile on sparc64 :)
18:43 < blindcoder> crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7$ ./scripts/Create-Diff /usr/src/rock-src-1.7/ /tftpboot/fuckup/usr/src/rock-src-1.7/ >/usr/src/my.diff
18:43 < blindcoder> okay, let's see what I changed... hmm... is it possible to show only what has _not_ changed?
18:43 < rolla> thanks
18:43 < blindcoder> np
18:46 < blindcoder> hmm... it isn't that much...
18:46 < blindcoder> most of it is the kernel.conf...
18:47 * praenti macht gard einen kompletten neuen co
18:47 < blindcoder> I changed... 23 lines... to make it compile...
18:47 < blindcoder> *argH*
18:52 < esden> *heul* why are people sending patches to the mailinglist encoded base64 ? why oh why oh why
18:52 < esden> as if plaintext would be not enough
18:53 < owl> *gg* poor esden
18:55 < esden> I think I see people make mistakes all around me ...
18:55 < esden> I have slept too much ;-)
18:55 < blindcoder> hmm... should I put CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y as standard?
18:55 < blindcoder> I think not...
18:56 < esden> hae ?
18:57 < blindcoder> okay... again 88 Lines of patch
18:58 < blindcoder> lets make that 44... the other 44 lines aren't ready yet...
18:58 < blindcoder> need some... cleanup
18:59 < kasc_> so, kein weiteres update hier mehr vor 2.0! *bestimm*
18:59 < kasc_> moin, btw
19:00 < blindcoder> kasc_: ROCK?
19:00 < kasc_> jep
19:02 < kasc_> bei 1.7 hab ich ein build abgepasst, der halbwegs lief, der Rest muß jetzt von Hand gehen ;)
19:03 < esden> hi kasc_ 
19:03 < kasc_> hi esden
19:03 < kasc_> for when is rock 2.0 sceduled? end of this year?
19:04 < owl> fscking irda!!! HATE!!!
19:04 < owl> hi kasc_
19:04 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082A996.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:04 < owl> tag tsa
19:04 < kasc_> hi owl
19:05 < tsa> moin
19:05 < kasc_> moin tsa
19:05 -!- kasc_ is now known as kasc
19:05 < tsa> hi kasc_
19:05 < tsa> huhu owlita *hug*
19:05 < owl> tsa: pfui. aus. lass das!
19:06 < tsa> hehe
19:06 < esden> hi tsa
19:07 < esden> owl: die suesse von tsa 
19:07 < tsa> hi esden
19:07 < esden> tsa: ihr habt euch ganz lieb
19:07 < esden> gell ?
19:07 < owl> esden: BITTE! WAS! *aussteig*
19:07 < esden> schoenes paar owl und tsa ;-)
19:08 < owl>  /lynch esden
19:08 < esden> wann heiratet ihr ?
19:08 < tsa> esden: *tret*
19:08 < owl> esden: wann heiratest du natalie?
19:08 < esden> ach ... seid doch nicht so geheimissvoll ...
19:08 < owl> esden!!!!
19:08 < esden> owl: wir haben schon laengst geheiratet
19:09 < owl> esden: hmm... und was ist dann mit deiner neuen?
19:09 < tsa> esden: am tag der geburt deines kindes mit blindcoder
19:09 < esden> wieso wollt ihr eigentlich eure liebe geheim halten ... das verstehe ich nicht ...
19:09 < owl> esden: du hast heute echt zu viel gepennt...
19:09 < esden> tsa: das dauert nicht mehr lange ... der blindcoder ist schon ziemlich lange schwanger ... gell blindy ?
19:09 < tsa> .oO( esden muss irgendwas genommen haben.. )
19:10 < owl> tsa: oder so. aber ich glaube keine droge dieser welt koennte diese wirkung haben...
19:10 < esden> tsa: leider habe ich nichts genommen ... >_<
19:11 < tsa> esden: hm...dann muss das wohl angeboren sein.. ;)
19:11 < esden> was "das" ?
19:11 < esden> definier
19:11 < owl> esden: deine verruecktheit
19:12 < tsa> esden: allgemeine verpeiltheit? *duck*
19:12 < tsa> ;)
19:20 < esden> verpeiltheit ?
19:20 < esden> hmm ... coole wortschoepfung
19:20 < esden> naja ... ich wuerde eher sagen evilheit ... aber naja
19:21 < esden> wenn du meinst
19:21 < owl> esden: du und evil? --> muhahahahaha! /me schmeisst sich weg!
19:23 < owl> btw, does someone know if it's possible to use intel speedstep with 2.4.19-kernel and set the speed of the CPU manually?
19:26 < owl> (eh, with intel pentium 4 mobile...)
19:29 < tsa> dunno
19:29 < esden> ok dann einfach dumm
19:29 < esden> egal 
19:29 * -> esden away
19:30 < owl> bye esden
19:30 < owl> np: slipknot - people = shit
19:39 < owl> np: blutengel - i'm dying alone
19:41 < tsa> nett.
19:41 < tsa> hm...ich hab "Child of glass" und "Seelenschmerz" beide komplett...gibt's noch mnehr?
19:42 < tsa> -n
19:43 < owl> hm. gute frage... www.terminal-choice.de oder so...?
19:43 < tsa> jo, schon dabei.
19:44 < owl> :) hast du auch mp3s oder oggs von terminal-choice?
19:44 < tsa> "bloody pleasures", "black roses", "vampire romance", "angel dust" <- mal suchen muss.
19:44 < owl> hehe ;)
19:45 < tsa> jo.
19:45 < blindcoder> yuk.... downloading several hundred packages really takes ages >_<
19:45 < tsa> Collective suicide hab' ich
19:45 < tsa> ...und nen haufen unsorted....da sind bestimmt auch noch 2 oder 3 alben komplett drin
19:45 < tsa> $ locate Terminal\ Choice|wc -l
19:45 < tsa>      57
19:45 < owl> aaaaaaaaaah.
19:45 < tsa> hm?
19:46 < owl> tsa: du bist fies!
19:46 < tsa> wieso?
19:46 < owl> flatrate (oder wie war das...?) und dann ganze alben leechen, hm?
19:46 < tsa> hehe
19:47 < owl> ich sach's ja - fies. ;P
19:47 < tsa> erstmal finden irgendwo...das ist teilweise nicht so ganz einfach..
19:47 < owl> na ja. aber wenn man's dann mal gefunden hat...
19:47 < tsa> ;)
19:48 < owl> bei isdn ist ja das problem, dass die leute dann oft auch so ca. bei 95 % einfach sagen "noe, du hast genug von dem song - und tschuess" :-/
19:49 < owl> tsa: kennst du wolfsheim?
19:49 < tsa> jo
19:50 < owl> auch komplette alben?
19:52 < tsa> 55578, Singles 1987-1995
19:52 < tsa> Dreaming Apes
19:52 < tsa> No Happy View
19:52 < tsa> Spectators
19:52 < tsa> ;)
19:52 * owl schweigt :)
19:53 < tsa> *giggle*
19:53 < owl> pah
19:53 < tsa> hm...
19:53 < tsa> terminal choice - khaosgott <- fehlen 2 tracks
19:57 < owl> na wunderbar. doch so viele...
19:58 < owl> muss ich dich ja direkt bemitleiden, oder? *zynisch_grins*
20:01 < tsa> jupp
20:02 < owl> :P nix da
20:05 < blindcoder> maaannnnn ich bin schon wieder tot müde
20:06 < blindcoder> scheiss zeitumstellung
20:07 < tsa> hm...terminal choice - navigator fehlen auch zwei tracks
20:12 < esden> blindcoder: du bist zu frueh aufgestanden ;-)
20:12 < blindcoder> esden: und du zu spaet ins bett
20:12 < blindcoder> esden: ich schmeiss jetzt dann den build auf der Sun an
20:14 < blindcoder> go Go GO!
20:15 < owl> re
20:15 * blindcoder still taking bets if mine will compile :D
20:16 < owl> tsa: irgenwie denke ich, dass du mich ärgern willst, ne? ;P
20:19 < tsa> nicht wirklich ;)
20:20 < tsa> so....nu aber erstmal ne runde vor die glotze...
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20:21 * blindcoder just want's to see if mine compiles and then throws himself into bed *sleepy*
20:33 * blindcoder going to bed
20:33 < blindcoder> n8
20:42 < huebi> moin
20:45 < owl> hi huebi
20:45 < huebi> moin owl
20:46 < owl> huebi: wie geht's?
20:47 < tsa|TV> moin auch, huebi..
20:47 < owl> tsa|TV: pro7?
20:47 < huebi> gehts so. make depend funktioniert bei linux-heder untersparc nicht :-(((
20:47 < huebi> huhuts
20:48 < huebi> huhu tsa|TV
20:48 < tsa|TV> owl: jupp.
20:48 < owl> tsa|TV: willkommen im club
20:48 < owl> huebi: das ist schlecht
20:49 < tsa|TV> ;)
20:55 < owl> huebi: schon ueber den preis nachgedacht?
20:56 < tsa|TV> preis?
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20:56 < owl> tsa|TV: nix fuer dich ;P
20:58 < huebi> tsa|TV: Kannst du Dir ehh nicht leisten. *g*
20:59 < tsa|TV> hehe
20:59 < Freak> sweet
21:01 < jhidalgo> why it is call rocklinux if u speak german _?
21:03 < jhidalgo> this will rock you ........
21:03 < Freak> ...
21:03 < jhidalgo> i'm asking cause i came here and......
21:03 < jhidalgo> i don't understand anything about your distro
21:04 < jhidalgo> :(
21:04 < huebi> jhidalgo: just ask. ;-))
21:04 < jhidalgo> why rock uses xinetd instead of inetd
21:05 < huebi> ROCK Linux 1.5.19 uses inetd. I don't know anything about 1.7.
21:05 < jhidalgo> http://www.rocklinux.org/packages/
21:06 < jhidalgo> ask tsa !
21:06 < jhidalgo> xinetd 2.3.9 tsa xinetd
21:06 < tsa|TV> hehe
21:06 < huebi> jhidalgo: thats 1.7
21:07 < tsa|TV> the xinetd package was taken from the old sourceforge repository - i don't know what happened to the original inetd, though..
21:07 < jhidalgo> .......
21:07 < jhidalgo> so there is no reason ?
21:08 < jhidalgo> Hm... i'm thinking about using rock..., that's why i'm asking !  :)
21:08 < tsa|TV> ah....just found it
21:08 < tsa|TV> inetd is in package netkit-base
21:08 < tsa|TV> so it's still there..
21:08 < Freak> how come you think about using it if you don't know anything about it? or do you know about the concept?
21:09 < jhidalgo> to me, Freak ?
21:09 < Freak> yup
21:09 < Freak> or did I missunderstand you..
21:10 < jhidalgo> that's why i'm here, i'm learning about rocklinux, that's why i'm asking !
21:10 < jhidalgo> :S
21:10 < Freak> yea right but how can you want to use it if you don't know about it.. yea well.. just inform yourself well
21:11 < Freak> then use it.
21:11 < Freak> (or just stay here cause you like the regulars ;)
21:12 < jhidalgo> <Freak> yea right but how can you want to use it if you don't know about it..
21:12 < jhidalgo> that's why! u freak!
21:13 < Freak> okay nevermind
21:13 < Freak> just stay calm
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21:56 < owl> np: sarah mclachlan - gloomy sunday
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22:23 < tsa|TV> soo...re
22:24 < huebi> re tsa|TV
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22:53 < huebi> 24 people in this channnel at the moment. Much more than a year ago...
22:54 < tsa> ack
22:55 < huebi> Any idea why the kernel compilation or better "make depend" fails in the normal build and works if I do it by hand?
22:56 < tsa> running multiple instances of make, perhaps?
22:56 < tsa> make -j1 <--> make -j<something>
22:56 < huebi> no, make -j1. I changed the $PATH a few times with different failures but with no working compilation.
22:57 * huebi needs just to run "make depend" to create 2 header files in linux-header.
22:57 < tsa> hm...
22:58 < huebi> I think in the build environment only 32 bits are seen.
22:59 < huebi> Also if I work arround the glibc_wrapper it fails.
23:00 < tsa> strange
23:02 < huebi> I'll compare it to the old scripts. I should be an environment problem.
23:31 < huebi> good night. I go back to the office. Perhaps I can find the error...
23:31 < huebi> wech....
23:36 < owl> gn8
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