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00:35 * Mike1 is having fun :)
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00:39 < th> is --bind a kernel-space feature?
00:40 < _NULL> hi th
00:40 < th> my userspace-tool "mount" on an ancient system (mount-2.10m) does not support --bind
00:40 < th> huhu _NULL
00:40 < spender> yes, it has a special implementation in fs/namespace.c
00:40 < th> does 2.2.22 support that?
00:41 < spender> i think it's new in 2.4
00:41 < th> damnit
00:41 < Mike1> th 2.2.x does not support it sorry
00:41 < th> any way of doing something like that with 2.2 kernel?
00:42 < th> hmm
00:46 < th> hmmm nfs from localhost...
00:46 < th> is it possible to reexport such?
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01:04 < c4y0> hi!!!
01:04 < aszlig> hullo
01:05 < Mike1> hi c4y0
01:05 < Mike1> aszlig: what are you doing?
01:05 < aszlig> Mike1: rockstrap
01:05 < Mike1> when am i going to see ur work?
01:05 < Mike1> :)
01:06 < aszlig> tomorrow (i hope i can resist against sleep :)
01:06 < Mike1> aszlig: sleep is just phisicological thing there is nothing to resist against its all in ur mind
01:06 < Mike1> :)
01:07 < aszlig> Mike1: ey! don't tell me, HUMAN!
01:08 < aszlig> :)
01:08 < Mike1> aszlig: sorry Lord aszlig :)
01:08 < aszlig> *gg*
01:08 < Mike1> so far what have you done with asztrap ? *g*
01:09 * _NULL is now playing: ulf tode - revolution 
01:09 < aszlig> Mike1: ey!
01:09 < aszlig> Mike1: either asstrap or rockstrap!
01:09 < Mike1> aszlig: jk :P
01:09 < aszlig> hmm...
01:09 < aszlig> rock-trap
01:10 < aszlig> have to complete the modules-sys...
01:10 < Mike1> :)
01:10 < aszlig> and have go throgh all scripts of rl
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02:16 < _NULL> gn8. cu
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03:20 < Xgates> hey ppl
03:21 < Mike1> hi Xgates
03:21 < Xgates> do this iso rock-intel-base-1.4.0.iso get you up and going to check out Rock ?
03:21 < Xgates> I dont want to build it from src just yet
03:22 < Mike1> go to http://iso.rocklinux.de for latest isos 1.4.0 was released almost 2 years ago
03:23 < Xgates> hehe
03:23 < Mike1> ;)
03:24 < Xgates> yeah I saw that before
03:25 < Xgates> Mike1: what sort of pkg manager is Rock?
03:25 < Xgates> I dont see anything on it
03:25 < Xgates> still looking
03:28 < Xgates> I mean is this like Slack where you go to the site and download the pkgs you want ?
03:28 < Xgates> Rock isn't some online updating distro is it aka apt-get gentoo ports ?
03:29 < Xgates> all I see is this http://www.rocklinux.org/packages/
03:31 < th> speaking of 1.4.0 / 1.5.x rock's packages consist of base and extensions packages
03:31 < th> you get whole base as binary on iso
03:32 < th> and extension package is a file containing src-url + build-instructions
03:32 < th> you can update these files easily
03:35 < Xgates> ok THX guys I'll grab an iso later
03:35 < Xgates> c ya
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04:31 < d3mian__> re
04:32 < d3mian__> th: a question. da u know a way to solve aumix debug message when using gpm ?
04:32 < Mike1> d3mian__: go to bed
04:32 < Mike1> :P
04:32 < Mike1> that was satg
04:32 < d3mian__> umm.
04:32 < Mike1> wie gehts?
04:32 < d3mian__> my lovah.. what is he doing with u ? :-/
04:33 < d3mian__> oh. i have a little tail..
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04:33 < d3mian> that's better now :)
04:33 < Mike1> gut
04:33 < Mike1> que haces boludo?
04:33 < d3mian> algunas extensiones
04:33 < Mike1> satg te esta esperando para una noche de pasion
04:33 < Mike1> :P
04:34 < Mike1> para rock o para el otro proyecto?
04:34 < d3mian> el otro obviamente
04:34 < d3mian> ya tengo mas de 40 paketes pa mi solito :))
04:35 < d3mian>  [ doha ] ~/packages/demian > ls -l | wc -l
04:35 < d3mian>      50
04:35 < d3mian>  [ doha ] ~/packages/demian >
04:35 < d3mian> 50 ;-)
04:36 < Mike1> ah esta bien
04:37 < d3mian> tengo probs building vim
04:37 < Mike1> yo soy el maintainer de vim
04:37 < Mike1> en rock
04:37 < Mike1> tienes problemas en rock?
04:37 < d3mian> no..
04:37 < d3mian> :p
04:37 < d3mian> en la otra
04:38 < d3mian> pero.. me extrana
04:38 < d3mian> no localiza los includes de /usr/nclude
04:38 < d3mian> el script de configure usa /usr/local/include
04:38 < d3mian> me extrana.. es vim61
04:38 < d3mian> te dare mi extension
04:38 < Mike1> pon las lines tu
04:38 < Mike1> un para de cp son tus amigos
04:38 < Mike1> :)
04:38 < Mike1> aunque noe s lo mejor
04:39 < d3mian> un para de cp son tus amigos -> no entendi
04:39 < Mike1> yo lo tenia asi pero ahora uso los defaults de vim
04:39 < Mike1> con dos lineas con cp podes arreglar el problem
04:39 < d3mian> slackware uses glibc2.3.1 :(
04:39 < Mike1> igual no entiendo como te revienta vim es muy simple
04:39 < d3mian> si a mi me extrana
04:39 < d3mian> save
04:40 < Mike1> d3mian: lo mas apropiado es que si haces un build para la otra distro deberias de tener como sistema base la otra distro tambien
04:40 < Mike1> cuando deje ese proyecto usaba slack par aprobar y nunca tuve problemas
04:56 < Mike1> n8
04:56 < d3mian> cya
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05:22 < d3mian> paperclip
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05:34 < d3mian> i need to remove the whole content of a cvs repository i have.. how can i? steps.. :p
05:35 < d3mian> i need to clean my whole repos
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05:40 < d3mian> what's the cvs command line to get clifford's snapshots ?
05:40 < d3mian> 1.7
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09:56 < esden> morning
10:07 < blindcod1r> moin
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10:10 < blindcoder> gone
10:32 < aszlig> moin esden
10:50 < esden> yess !!!
10:50 < esden> bchat geeeht !!!
10:50 < esden> weee
10:50 < esden> hi blindcoder 
10:50 < esden> hi asz
10:50 < esden> ich meine aszlig 
10:50 < esden> woot woot
10:50 < esden> weeee !!!
10:51 < esden> ich kann mit dem client vom benji chatten !!!
10:51 < esden> weee
10:52 < esden> blindcoder: are you here ?
10:52 < esden> blindcoder: PING
10:53 < aszlig> re
10:53 < aszlig> esden: harm!?
10:54 < esden> hi aszlig ... *rumjump*
10:54 < esden> wo ist der blindcoder die troete !
10:54 < aszlig> esden: *gg*
10:54 < esden> tut er arbeiten oder was ?
10:54 < aszlig> esden: scheinwahrlich
10:55 < esden> der soll nicht arbeiten ... der soll herkommen !
10:55 < aszlig> esden: bist du im bitz?
10:55 < esden> noe in der uni
10:55 < esden> aber spaeter bin ich im bitz
10:55 < aszlig> esden: echt!?
10:55 < esden> ja ...
10:55 < aszlig> esden: kewl, bis wann?
10:55 < esden> weiss ich nicht
10:56 < aszlig> esden: laenger als ra621
10:56 < esden> boa bin ich heute geil ausgeschlafen ...
10:56 < esden> aszlig: weiss ich nicht ...
10:56 < aszlig> esden: sag den pfeifen mal, dassich linux-mainter machen will...
10:56 < esden> o_O ?
10:56 < aszlig> esden: s/mainter/maintainer/
10:57 < esden> von welchem linux denn ?
10:57 < aszlig> esden: ja, von denen im schulungsraum zum beilstift..
10:57 < aszlig> esden: weilse sich immer beschweren, weilse "dafuer keinen ham"
10:58 < aszlig> esden: hmm, naja stimmt ja, /me macht ja immer alles kaputt :/
10:58 < esden> ja aszlig aber im schulungsraum muss es suse sein ... nur so zu info
10:58 < aszlig> esden: nicht umbedingt...
10:58 < esden> aha ?
10:58 < blindcoder> what's up?
10:58 < esden> das ist mir neu
10:58 < esden> ahh blindcoder !!!
10:58 < aszlig> esden: hehe
10:58 < esden> *knuddel*
10:59 < aszlig> esden: in uml geht auch x :P
10:59 < blindcoder> urks
10:59 < aszlig> esden: habich grad am laufen
10:59 < esden> blindcoder: kannst du mal hier dier nen account holen ? : http://bchat-dev.bingo-ev.de/bWF2-fake/signup.jsp 
10:59 < blindcoder> *seufz* mom
11:00 < esden> und dann auf dem apollo dich mit : /home/bchat/java_bchat einloggen ?
11:00 < aszlig> esden: laeuft sogar bei dem bloeden p200 hier wunderbar..
11:00 < blindcoder> wie? kein suxe im bitz? wie willstn des machen?
11:00 < aszlig> blindcoder: ganz einfach..
11:00 < aszlig> blindcoder: muss susi nur im uml installieren..
11:00 < esden> blindcoder: ich wuerde es auch sehr gerne sehen ...
11:00 < aszlig> blindcoder: "nur"
11:00 < esden> aszlig: aha ...
11:01 < aszlig> blindcoder: es gibt halt n paar probs...
11:01 < aszlig> warum gibt es wohl kein image fuer susi...
11:01 < esden> ja deshalb muss suse drauf sein
11:01 < esden> aber
11:01 < aszlig> aber mit n bissl gefiesel gehts schon
11:01 < esden> aszlig: folgendes ... wenn du zwei clones machst von rock und suse ... dann sollte es auch passen
11:02 < aszlig> esden: jo..
11:02 < aszlig> esden: oder ueber nfs_root
11:02 < blindcoder> esden: chatten geht net :P
11:02 < aszlig> esden: hmm..
11:02 < esden> aszlig: rede halt mit den leuten und denke an das was ich dir gesagt habe ... NICHT uebertreiben ... sonnst gehen die nicht drauf ein
11:02 < aszlig> esden: ja, k...
11:03 < esden> blindcoder: womit versuchst du gerade zu chatten ?
11:03 < blindcoder> mozilla
11:03 < aszlig> esden: hehe...
11:03 < esden> nee ...
11:03 < esden> blindcoder: nimm /home/bchat/java_bchat
11:03 < esden> auf dem apollo
11:03 < aszlig> esden: telnet hostname <bchatportwhichidonotrememberanymore>
11:04 < blindcoder> spaeter, muss jetzt n bisschen was machen
11:04 < esden> und da benutze den benutzernamen und passwort das du zugeschickt bekommen hast
11:04 < esden> ja ist doch nur aufrufen ... 
11:04 < esden> hmm ... ok 
11:04 < esden> wenn du zu tun hast
11:04 < blindcoder> nein, ist ssh zurueck zum apollo ==> lahm ==> nervig
11:05 < aszlig> telnet is immer noch der lustigste und interessanteste client
11:05 < esden> hmm ... ok ...
11:05 < blindcoder> schreibs mir schnell privat damit ichs mir merk :)
11:05 < blindcoder> bis spaeter
11:05 < esden> ? : crash    pts/0    192.35.17.20     10:58    1.00s  0.37s  0.35s  ssh blindcoder@scavenger.homeip.net
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11:05 < esden> ja mache ich 
11:07 < aszlig> hmm... dann kannich ja dann gleich rockstrap weitermachen :)
11:07 < aszlig> is dann ganz gut dassde da bist..
11:09 < aszlig> esden: was haeltste davon, wennich mein alphalein ins bitz stelle?
11:09 < esden> hmm ... 
11:10 < aszlig> der kann dann des zeugs mit nfs_root machen..
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11:10 < aszlig> wb rxr
11:10 < aszlig> hmm..
11:11 < esden> also ... ich persoenlich wuerde es perfekt finden ... (me wuerde die kiste dann gleich mit rock fuettern und wuerde meine standard workstation sein ;-) ) aber ... ich glaube da werden paar bingo spongos wie der marino (erster vorstand) und juergen (ein ziemlicher stresser) und vielleicht paar andere was dagegen haben ... 
11:11 < esden> warum ?
11:11 < aszlig> *createnewprojectfrorockstrap*
11:11 < aszlig> esden: :(
11:11 < aszlig> esden: ey! da laeuft momentan tru64
11:12 < esden> weil sie meinen das das zu viel platz braucht ... und weil es wieder ne kiste ist ... und weil ... weil sie einfach spassverdaerber sind >_<
11:12 < aszlig> esden: wieso sollen die was dagegen haben?
11:12 < aszlig> esden: hmm... stimmt.. die kiste is scho gross..
11:12 < aszlig> esden: aber ich muss die plattentuerme ja net mitnehmen
11:12 < esden> aber ich koennte mal fragen ... weil ich faende es ziemlich geil als ne workstation im vereinsraum ;-)
11:13 < aszlig> hehe...
11:13 < aszlig> des dingens kannma dann mit mannis sgi vergleichen *gg*
11:13 < esden> aber ich wuerde trotzdem tru64 von der kiste backupen und rock draufspielen :D
11:14 < aszlig> esden: nix da..
11:14 < aszlig> esden: *gg*
11:14 < aszlig> esden: obwohl..
11:14 < esden> dann passe auf das ich die kiste nicht in die haende bekomme ... weil du wirst mich nicht davor stoppen koennen ;-)
11:14 < aszlig> esden: des tru64 wolltich eh selber schon killen..
11:14 < esden> naja ... nachdem ich mir tru angeschaut habe ;-)
11:14 < aszlig> esden: dann darfste die platten ausbauen
11:15 < aszlig> esden: soweit kommste net..
11:15 < aszlig> esden: :>
11:15 < aszlig> esden: wieder einbauen wird dann n prob..
11:15 < esden> argh ... der fake koennte endlich zurueck aus der berufsschule sein
11:15 < aszlig> esden: hab des ganze nur mit tru64 hingekriegt...
11:15 < aszlig> esden: _jetzt_ schon!?
11:16 < esden> JA !
11:16 < aszlig> esden: der hat erst um 3 oder 4 aus..
11:17 < esden> ach mennoo ...
11:18 < aszlig> wenner um 3 aushat, dann bring ich ihn um!
11:18 < esden> lol
11:18 < aszlig> dann hat der sack naemlich immer eine stunde frueher aus, als wir..
11:19 < esden> aszlig: wo bist du eigentlich ? arbeit ?
11:19 < aszlig> esden: ja..
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11:19 < aszlig> esden: bstle grade am mul rum..
11:19 < esden> tztztz
11:19 < aszlig> esden: s/mul/uml/
11:19 < esden> und ich kriege hunger ...
11:19 < aszlig> esden: kein problem, den habich schon..
11:29 < esden> hmm ok ... /quit und /exit gehen ... /leave faehlt noch ...
11:36 < esden> ok /me geht jetzt auch
11:36 < esden> soo ... /link machma noch
11:36 < esden> danach muss ich mir noch ueberlegen wie ich /msg mache ...
11:37 < esden> aber da habe ich auch ne idee
11:41 < esden> ok /link geht jetzt auch
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12:05 < esden> ok die userliste geht jetzt auch ;-)(
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12:07 < blindcoder> hehe
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12:07 < blindcoder> bin nur kurv da
12:07 < esden> hmm ... ok ...
12:08 < esden> sei willkommen ;-)
12:08 < blindcoder> esden: wie um alles in der welt kann ROCK 1.7 mit optimisations compilen?
12:08 < esden> ??
12:08 < blindcoder> mit glibc 231 geht net weil ich 225 auf meinem system fuehre
12:09 < esden> ohh man die kochen da draussen und ich habe so nen derben hunger >_<
12:09 < blindcoder> mit glibc 225 krieg ich "invalid value for -march"
12:09 < esden> o_O
12:09 < esden> da scheint was kaputt zu sein ...
12:09 < blindcoder> egal ob pentium4 oder k6-2
12:10 < esden> tja scheint mir das da was rumspinnt ... in rock ... @ blindcoder 
12:11 < blindcoder> you don't say... ich sag ihm mal dass das ganze ein cross-compile is und probiors nochmal mit 231
12:11 < blindcoder> das ging zumindest bei sparc64
12:11 < blindcoder> okay bin wieder wech
12:11 < esden> ok cu
12:12 < esden> blindcoder: bist nur hergekommen um dampf abzulassen ... gell ? (/me schaut blindcoder durch ;-) )
12:15 < esden> soo ... 
12:15 * -> esden lunch
12:15 * -> esden be back
12:28 < esden> re hi all
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13:38 < esden> ok ... I think I drive back to IN now
13:38 < esden> cu all
13:56 < aszlig> c'ya esdi ;)
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14:56 < slack__> hello again
14:56 < slack__> i've got problem with rocklinux again :(
14:56 < slack__> chroot: cannot execute bin/sh: No such file or directory
14:56 < slack__> mount: fs type devfs not supported by kernel
14:56 < slack__> chroot: cannot execute bin/sh: No such file or directory
14:56 < slack__> mount: fs type devfs not supported by kernel
15:00 < blindcoder> hi slack__
15:00 < slack__> blindcoder: hello
15:00 < slack__> <<fooblah ;)
15:00 < blindcoder> deutsch oder english?
15:00 < slack__> deutsch waere mir lieber
15:00 < slack__> ;)
15:00 < blindcoder> okay
15:00 < blindcoder> schaut aus als haettest du kein devfs in deinem kernel
15:01 < slack__> es is aber drinnen
15:01 < slack__> hab extra davor n neuen kernel gebaut
15:01 < blindcoder> hmm
15:01 < blindcoder> kannst du es von hamd mounten?
15:02 < slack__> hmm...
15:02 < slack__> sek tele
15:02 < blindcoder> jo
15:03 < slack__> hmm...
15:04 < slack__> ne
15:04 < blindcoder> hmm... dann isses nicht in deinem laufenden kernel
15:04 < slack__> unter welcher karte ist des? file systems?
15:04 < slack__> hab grad make xconfig laufen
15:05 < blindcoder> ja, filesystems
15:05 < blindcoder> [*] /dev file system support
15:05 < slack__> und heist: /dev file systems support (EXPERIMENTAL)
15:05 < slack__> jo
15:05 < slack__> hmm...
15:05 < blindcoder> genau
15:06 < slack__> es is aber an...?!
15:06 < slack__> ich bau mal n neuen kernel..
15:06 < blindcoder> probiers einfach nochmal
15:06 < SMP> cat /proc/filesystems
15:07 < blindcoder> oder hast du mehrere auswahlmoeglichkeiten beim booten und die falsche erwischt?
15:07 < blindcoder> hi SMP
15:07 < slack__> in proc/filesystems steht auch nix...
15:08 < slack__> ich hohl mir einfach nen neuen source und bau ihn neu
15:08 < slack__> und versuchs nochmal
15:08 < blindcoder> mhm
15:08 < blindcoder> und des andere: "chroot: cannot execute bin/sh: No such file or directory"
15:09 < slack__> hmm...
15:09 < blindcoder> schaut aus als haette entweder bash nicht gebaut oder der symlink /bin/sh -> /bin/bash is nicht da
15:10 < slack__> sh-2.05a#
15:10 < SMP> das laesst sich ja leicht ueberpruefen...
15:10 < slack__> es is da
15:10 < slack__> hab grad /bin/sh gemacht
15:10 < SMP> ehem
15:10 < SMP> und das bin/sh dort wohin du chrooten wolltest?
15:12 < slack__> hmm...
15:13 < slack__> ln -s /bin/sh /bin/bash ?
15:13 < blindcoder> also irgendwo in der art von ../rock-1.5/build/root/bin
15:13 < blindcoder> irgendwo da sollte bash und sh sein
15:13 < SMP> was versuchst du eigentlich generell zu tun?
15:14 < slack__> SMP: rocklinux zu builden
15:14 < slack__> bash is nich dabei - hab mich vorhin vertippt
15:14 < rolla> re
15:14 < blindcoder> re rolla
15:15 < SMP> zu welchem Zeitpunkt dabei tritt dieser Fehler auf?
15:15 < slack__> aehm *gruebel*
15:15 < slack__> glaub nach dem packet flex..
15:15 < slack__> also bei ./scripst/Build-Target - so richtung flex... aber weis nich ganz genau
15:16 < slack__> hab da nich wirklich aufgepasst
15:16 < SMP> aha. 1.7
15:16 < blindcoder> ls -l ..../rock-1.5/build/root/var/adm/logs/*err
15:17 < blindcoder> ach 1.7...
15:17 < SMP> sorge dafuer dass du einen devfs Kernel hast und dann viel Spass
15:17 * blindcoder is in letzter Zeit irgendwie nich auf der hoehe
15:17 < slack__> hmm... k
15:18 < slack__> bin wieder weg - falls es nich klappt stoere ich wieder ;)
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15:20 * blindcoder geht auch mal wieder
15:30 < esden> re hi all
15:30 < esden> blindcoder: r u here ?
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15:36 < Mike1> moin
15:37 < rolla> Mike
15:37 < Mike1> hi Joel
15:45 < esden> hi Mike1 
15:45 < esden> hi rolla 
15:47 < aszlig> Mike1: hello
15:47 < Mike1> hi esden , aszlig
15:47 < snyke> hi aszlig!
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15:52 < Mike1> hi rxr
15:54 < aszlig> hoi snyke
16:03 * Mike1 rebooting brb
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16:06 < Mike1> re
16:06 < aszlig> wb mike
16:09 < Mike1> :)
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16:29 < blindcoder> esden: PONG
16:29 < blindcoder> :)
16:32 < snyke> mh
16:33 < blindcoder> hi snyke
16:42 < aszlig> re
16:42 < blindcoder> tach
16:43 < aszlig> blindcoder: era you to bitz today?
16:43 < aszlig> s/era/are/
16:44 < blindcoder> irgendwann um 19 hur zum AK-T
16:44 < aszlig> blindcoder: kewl :)
16:44 < blindcoder> wenn nix gscheits los is geh ich wieda
16:44 < aszlig> blindcoder: ey!
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16:45 < aszlig> esden kommt beilstiftsweise auch
16:45 < aszlig> wb Mike1
16:45 < Mike1> re
16:45 < blindcoder> aszlig: und?
16:45 < blindcoder> das hindert mich doch net am gehen
16:45 < aszlig> Mike1: german telco closed my connection
16:45 < aszlig> blindcoder: hmm..
16:46 < Mike1> aszlig: ?
16:46 * blindcoder now goinc home
16:47 < esden> hi all
16:47 < esden> puhh
16:47 < Mike1> hi esdy
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17:42 < Mike1> 0_o
17:43 < Mike1> :)
17:46 < zer0_o> o_0
17:46 < zer0_o> ;D
17:46 < Mike1> how are you ?
17:46 < zer0_o> fine thanks
17:47 < zer0_o> and you?
17:47 < Mike1> i am great thanks :)
17:47 < zer0_o> but .. uhm.. i have to pay some bills .. =|
17:47 < zer0_o> that's not gona make me happy =P
17:48 < Mike1> ah well :)
17:48 < Mike1> run a fresh rock build, that will help
17:49 < zer0_o> yeah =)
17:49 < zer0_o> i think so too
17:50 < zer0_o> there's so much to learn
17:50 < Mike1> there's where the fun begins
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17:55 < zer0_o> yeah... but at the moment i learn php c++ and sql together , theres not much time left for else =|
17:57 < Mike1> mm... what do you do between 02:00 and 06:00 ?
18:00 < zer0_o> working ;) lol
18:00 < Mike1> i see
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18:02 < zer0_o> why do you mean ?
18:04 < Mike1> when do you sleep?
18:04 * rolla hates his company
18:04 < Mike1> sleep is just a phisicological thing so you can easily invest that time in something usefull such as learning :)
18:05 < zer0_o> lol
18:05 < zer0_o> i can't learn when i almost fall asleep..
18:07 < Mike1> :P
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18:34 < owl> seid gegruesst
18:34 < aszlig> hullo
18:34 < owl> aszlig: hi. das nenne ich mal reaktion ;P
18:39 < th> anyone ext3 experience on 2.2.22?
18:40 < Mike1> th nope, but why dont you just go for 2.4.19?
18:40 < th> not sure what the userland thinks of 2.4 on this old system
18:40 < Mike1> i have seen you looking for several 2.4 stuff to work on 2.2.22
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18:41 < armijn> re
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18:41 < armijn> hmmm, owl here?
18:41 < armijn> yep!
18:41 * armijn hugs owl
18:41 < th> Mike1: very true. but this server is almost mission critical ;-) i'm just a  bit afraid of switching from 2.2 to 2.4
18:41 < Mike1> hi armijn
18:41 < armijn> blah
18:41 < owl> hi armijn. without hug
18:42 < owl> hi th
18:42 < th> hi owl
18:42 < armijn> that was a long meeting...
18:42 < armijn> argh.
18:42 < armijn> 5 hours...
18:42 < Mike1> th: difine mission critical
18:42 < Mike1> WOW 5 hours meeting wtf was that??
18:43 < th> Mike1: quite expensive when not working perfectly between 0600 and 2000
18:43 < armijn> mike1: the author of Vim came by to discuss his new project...we're working on similar things, so...
18:43 < th> bram?
18:43 < Mike1> armijn: NICE
18:43 < Mike1> wanna tell us about it? *g*
18:44 < Mike1> th: mmm... can you have a 3 - 8 minutes downtime?
18:44 < armijn> mike1: www.a-a-p.org
18:45 < th> Mike1: i can have downtimes between 2000h and 0600h
18:45 < th> Mike1: should be no problem to compile a new kernel and test it
18:45 < Mike1> so do it
18:45 < armijn> yeah! go for it girl!
18:46 < th> Mike1: but i can't be really sure if all works...
18:46 < Mike1> well if it doesnt work you just go back to the working image and remove the lilo.conf lines
18:46 < Mike1> big deal
18:46 < th> Mike1: i'm afraid only the customer can tell me if it works
18:46 < th> ;>
18:47 < Mike1> you will never be sure if it'll work till you try it
18:47 < th> that's true
18:47 < Mike1> is there a way to get the costummer to test it between 2000 and 0600?
18:47 < armijn> I'm completely wasted :)
18:47 < armijn> ah well...
18:47 < Mike1> armijn: get a beer :)
18:48 < th> Mike1: should be.
18:48 < armijn> mike1: well, in about 30 minutes I've got another meeting...all the authors of the dutch magazine I write for are invited for a pub night ;-)
18:48 < armijn> spanish things, so hopefully lots of wine..
18:48 < armijn> and I don't have to pay a thing :))
18:49 < Mike1> th: so compile 2.4.19 and edit lilo.conf get everything ready then reboot and ask the guys for testing i dont think it will take too long will it?
18:49 < Mike1> armijn: COOL
18:49 < th> Mike1: no. it's not really a problem it's just that i don't want to test the system too much
18:50 * Mike1 realizes he should begging writing for magazines ...
18:50 < th> aehm
18:50 < th> Mike1: s,test,touch,
18:50 < th> ok i should start booting myself with some mate...
18:50 < armijn> mike1: first chilling here with some music...metal!
18:51 < th> it's almost 7PM and i haven't reached my preferred runlevel yet...
18:51 < Mike1> th: hehe well my friend you have 2 options, you can stick with 2.2.22 and keep asking us stuff about getting 2.4 features to work on 2.2 and pissbly not get answers or you can just touch the machine for a few hours and get rid of the sh*t
18:52 < Mike1> armijn: sounds like a very interesting meeting i can tell
18:52 < Mike1> th: forget about temporary solutions, do the right thing :)
18:54 < armijn> mike1: it will be...
18:54 < armijn> ok, it's beer/wine time...
18:54 < Mike1> armijn: so enjoy it
18:54 < armijn> hmm, I do sound like an alcoholic...
18:54 < armijn> ah well :)
18:54 * armijn -> pub
18:54 < Mike1> armijn: i would be afraid if you didnt
18:54 < armijn> cu
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19:16 < tcr> re all
19:24 < owl> hi tcr
19:24 < tcr> moinsen
19:25 < owl> is there a possibility to "clean" the MBR completely? (cuz of a previous winXP which was installed on this acer... and now the acer is not able to boot from HD after installing lilo...)
19:25 < tcr> jo
19:26 < owl> how?
19:26 < owl> please tell me, then you rescue me from death :)
19:28 < tcr> sorry, quite busy
19:28 < tcr> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<path>/<to>/<disk> bs=512 count=1
19:29 < owl> ok. thx
19:30 < tcr> but well
19:31 < owl> hard disk boot sector invalid --> :-//
19:31 < tcr> what path did you use
19:31 < owl>  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
19:32 < tcr> hum
19:32 < owl> i guess this notebook is strange in some ways
19:33 < tcr> why don't you just overwrite it?
19:33 < owl> i tried it. but then i got  "Int 0x13 function 8 and fucktion 0x48 return different head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80"
19:34 < owl> hm... fdisk shows me that it successfully was deleted...
19:34 < owl> ok. another try of installing rock...
19:35 < owl> strange. now the count of cylinders is also different ...
19:37 < tcr> hm?
19:38 < owl> when i installed rock the first time, the "last cylinder" was something over 2800 now it's 2432
19:39 < tcr> *g*
19:39 < owl> heh, don't laugh. it's not funny...
19:39 < tcr> you format the disk completely
19:40 < tcr> should
19:40 < owl> how do you mean? i'm using fdisk and deleting all partitions etc. do you mean that as "completely"?
19:41 < Mike1> windows fdisk will not clean up mbr
19:42 < owl> Mike1: i deleted win... and does the fscking XP also is able to clean up it...?
19:42 < tcr> didn't you run a format c:\ ?
19:42 < Mike1> owl you should have run lilo -U beofre removing linux it would have been the easiest way
19:42 < owl> tcr: nope.
19:43 < owl> Mike1: hm. on this strange acer no linux had ever been installed.
19:43 < tcr> what does the linux version of fdisk say?
19:43 < owl> tcr: huh? nothing... wyh?
19:44 < Mike1> then what is the damn problem you are having with mbr?
19:44 < Mike1> owl: try linux fdisk if you find it too complicated cfdisk is ur friend
19:45 < tcr> no not cfdisk
19:45 < owl> Mike1: i used fdisk, installed rock & lilo, wanted to boot into rock... -->  hard disk boot sector invalid
19:45 < owl> tcr, Mike1: i have no problems with partitioning the HD with fdisk
19:45 < Mike1> tcr: :P
19:46 < Mike1> owl: boot from , mount , chroot , check lilo.conf and re run 'lilo' then reboot
19:46 < owl> btw, does someone know which HW components in general are included in an ACER ASPIRE 1300?
19:46 < owl> Mike1: i did.
19:46 < Mike1> lspci
19:47 < tcr> i'm out, must do homeworks
19:47 < owl> Mike1: of course. but... hmm..
19:47 < owl> tcr: have fun. bye
19:47 < owl> thx for your help
19:47 < Mike1> owl: do you have lba32 in ur lilo.conf?
19:47 < owl> yep
19:47 < Mike1> is the path to the disc and to the partitons fine?
19:47 < owl> yes
19:48 < Mike1> do you get any errors when you re run 'lilo' ?
19:48 < owl> yes. this one: Int 0x13 function 8 and fucktion 0x48 return different head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80"  << but just a warning.
19:48 < blindcoder> hi *yawn*
19:48 < owl> hi blindcoder
19:49 < owl> blindcoder: my ASUS is defekt *crying*
19:49 < blindcoder> *LOOOOOOOL*
19:49 < Mike1> mom phone
19:49 < owl> blindcoder: don't laugh!
19:49 * blindcoder pointing to owl and laughs
19:49 < owl> now a i have a ACER as "leihgeraet" and i have thousands of problems. help!
19:49 < owl> blindcoder: wait. next monday...
19:50 < blindcoder> *ROTFL*
19:50 < owl> blindy, blindy, blindy... TS!
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19:50 < owl> moin huebi
19:50 < huebi> Moin
19:50 < Mike1> hi huebi
19:50 < blindcoder> *MUAHAHAHA*
19:50 < blindcoder> hi huebi
19:50 < huebi> hi owl
19:50 < huebi> hi Mike1
19:50 < huebi> hi blindcoder
19:50 < Mike1> wie gehts?
19:51 < huebi> Mike1: Klasse. sparc32 does fail (at least the fl_wrapper library) on the dual CPU SparcStation 10 from ripclaww
19:52 < Mike1> huebi: arrrg that sucks
19:52 < Mike1> whats the fl_wrapper error?
19:52 < huebi> owl: I need to burn 2 CD-Images for you so that you can start to use the JavaStation 10 immediatly.
19:53 < Mike1> owl have a JavaStation ? 0_o
19:53 < owl> huebi: ok. thx. when will you send the krups to me?
19:53 < owl> Mike1: not yet :)
19:53 < huebi> Mike1: It only finds the 4 files generated by Build-Package (flist,md5sum...)
19:54 < Mike1> mmm.... this is strange,
19:54 < Mike1> did it work fine on sparc64?
19:55 * blindcoder hates ROCK 1.7 *AARRGGHH*
19:55 < huebi> Mike1: yes, it did.
19:55 < Mike1> blindcoder: why? glibc?
19:55 < huebi> blindcoder: I can understand that, too.
19:55 < Mike1> huebi: any possible ideas on what could be making it brake?
19:56 < blindcoder> Mike1: it compiles wonderful with 231 for sparc(32|64)
19:56 < huebi> owl: I hope tomorrow. I have to fix a server tonight and perhaps tomorrow morning.
19:56 < blindcoder> but I can't get past Stage 0 on x86
19:56 < owl> huebi: ok. thx.
19:56 < Mike1> blindcoder: ack neither do i
19:56 < Mike1> and dont understand the error
19:56 < blindcoder> but how did fake do it?
19:57 < Mike1> blindcoder: i dont know
19:57 < blindcoder> he said it works just about perfect
19:57 < Mike1> are you suing cliff's cvs tree?
19:57 < Mike1> what optimization did fake used?
19:57 < huebi> fake has magic software fingers
19:57 < Mike1> huebi: how do you mean?
19:58 < blindcoder> Mike1: yes, cvs. Opt: pntium4, k6-2, none. each fais for one reason or another in Stage 0 or 1
19:58 < huebi> Mike1: he hacks arround the bugs till it works.
19:58 < Mike1> blindcoder: it failed for me for athlon , i386 and i686
19:59 < Mike1> huebi: i see, still the problem with glibc on 1.7 is very weird, you dont really get to much feedback to find the bug
19:59 < blindcoder> but taking aside three or four packages and 3 lines of manual patching and it works for sparc... *ARGH*;2~
20:00 < huebi> Mike1: Gnome 2.1 will definitly get into 1.5.21
20:00 < Mike1> huebi: YEAHHH!! :)
20:00 < blindcoder> Mike1: I think if you use glibc231 on the hst it will work just fine
20:00 < Mike1> btw when will 1.5.20 be released?
20:01 < Mike1> mmm... i am currently using 2.2.5
20:01 < huebi> Mike1: in 3 days. I need to adopt the new install disks from clifford and I also have to make a bootable CD for Sparc64.
20:01 < Mike1> guess i will have to update
20:01 < Mike1> huebi: oh that will be just cool
20:02 < blindcoder> Mike1: me, too
20:02 < Mike1> huebi: and btw thanks for considering our effords to get gnome2.x working on the 1.5 tree
20:02 < huebi> k7 and i586 just compile straight through, on sparc64 gnome1 fails - a well known problem of gnome 1.4
20:03 < Mike1> blindcoder: i am downloading sources to fix some broken links, then i will runa  build
20:03 < blindcoder> okay
20:03 < Mike1> blindcoder: i will update glibc just after finishing download
20:03 < huebi> Mike1: My goal is to get ROCK Linux on x86-64 this year.
20:03 < Mike1> which would be about 2 hours or so
20:04 < blindcoder> Mike1: could you please tell me if it worked?
20:04 < Mike1> huebi: i think we will get it to work
20:04 < Mike1> blindcoder: yes i will
20:04 < blindcoder> thanks! *hugs_Mike1*
20:04 < huebi> Mike1: it's easier than on sparc64 but needs gcc-3.2 and glibc-2.3.1
20:05 < Mike1> ah well as you already know count me in for working on it :)
20:05 < huebi> Mike1: Thanks. ;-)
20:06 * spender is away: auto-away 30m -fz-
20:06 < Mike1> anyways i am hungry
20:06 < Mike1> i will come back in an hour or so
20:06 * Mike1 is away: lunch
20:07 < huebi> cu Mike1
20:09 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:02:55)
20:09 < Mike1> changed my mind
20:10 < owl> *ARGH*
20:10 < owl> fscking acer!
20:10 < blindcoder> *lol*
20:11 < huebi> brb. must go to the office again.
20:11 < Mike1> huebi: when will you come back
20:11 < Mike1> ?
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20:12 < owl> bye huebi
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20:13 < owl> wtf is this stupid acer unable to boot from HD?!?
20:14 < owl> Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80
20:14 < owl>   fn 08: 1023 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors
20:14 < owl>   fn 48: 38760 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors
20:14 < owl> Added rock *
20:14 < owl> ^^^^^why???
20:15 * blindcoder going to bed
20:15 < blindcoder> good night
20:16 < tcr> did you try verbose?
20:16 < owl> gn8 blindcoder
20:16 < owl> tcr: verbose? how?
20:16 < owl> in lilo`?
20:16 < tcr> jo
20:16 < owl> nope
20:20 < huebi> re
20:21 < huebi> owl try grub. Grub is _way_ better than lilo.
20:21 < huebi> owl: info grub.
20:21 < owl> hm..
20:22 < owl> it would help if the BIOS wouldn't give me error messages... :)
20:22 < huebi> owl: you only have to install it once and if you change your menu.lst it will find out itself.
20:22 < tcr> grub is unnecessarily complicate, imo
20:22 < Mike1> re huebi
20:22 < owl> YEHAW!!!
20:22 < owl> i won!
20:23 < huebi> re Mike1
20:23 < owl> lilo lost the game ;P
20:23 < huebi> tcr: It's similar to silo
20:23 < Mike1> silo rulez :)
20:23 < huebi> tcr: lilo is not usable if you want to install it not on the first BIOS disk.
20:23 < owl> ok. kernel panic... but better than no boot :)
20:24 < Mike1> lol
20:24 < huebi> owl: in  the grub shell you could now just add the right rootfs
20:24 < huebi> no more emergency boots needed.
20:25 < owl> hm. yes. but it's just a "leihnotebook" cuz my asus has displaying problems since today. so - i just need some files and a running rock... if the booting from HD would not have worked, then i would have used floppy...
20:27 * Mike1 is away: on the phone
20:28 < owl> pandora login:
20:28 < owl> great ;)
20:46 * huebi is rsyncing all the actuall sourses to the master ftp server.
20:47 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:20:45)
20:47 < Mike1> huebi: ???
20:48 < huebi> hmm. heavy load on that server. I don't get my line used completly
20:49 < huebi> Mike1: ftp://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/pub/rocklinux/ just gets an update.
20:49 < Mike1> huebi: tu-wien server ?
20:49 < Mike1> huebi: ah
20:49 < Mike1> ok please tell me when you are finished so i can update my box
20:49 < huebi> Mike1: no. The stud is the only master I take care about.
20:49 < Mike1> huebi: yeah i just figured that
20:50 < Mike1> huebi: do you still want me to take care of the rsync thingy ?
20:50 < Mike1> or you wanna get it done from stud?
20:51 < huebi> Mike1: I the moment please do care about it. I don't know when I get all things and people together to get a rsyncserver running on it.
20:52 < Mike1> huebi: it will be my honor to keep taking care of it
20:52 < huebi> Mike1: Thank you very much.
20:52 < Mike1> so please let me know when you are done so i can update the sources on my box and get the tu-wien maintainer update
20:53 < Mike1> huebi: no need to thank me :)
20:53 < huebi> ahhh, koool. linesaturation is reached here.
20:53 < Mike1> 0_o
20:54 < Mike1> having fun?
20:54 < huebi> Mike1: yes. and big lag.
20:54 < Mike1> lol
20:54 < huebi> QoS is somewthing I ever wanted to test and use.
20:55 < Mike1> nice
20:55 < Mike1> i must go after it
20:55 < Mike1> sometime before the year is over
20:55 < Mike1> :)
20:55 < Mike1> guess now i will have you to bug with questions 8)
20:56 < huebi> Mike1: yes, do it ;-)
20:56 < Mike1> you know i will
20:59 < Mike1> ok finally i will eat
20:59 * Mike1 is away: having an amazing lunch
20:59 < huebi> Mike1: have fun. and a nice meal./
20:59 < Mike1> huebi: thanks i will >_<
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21:23 < owl> I DIE!
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21:35 < Mike1> cool
21:35 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:36:16)
21:36 < Mike1> re
21:36 < huebi> Mike1: I'm still uploading (and writing a mail to the list about server and the 1.5 homepage)
21:36 < Mike1> huebi: excellent
21:37 < Mike1> huebi: did you succesfully build 1.5 with gnome2.1?
21:38 < huebi> Mike1: No, I could not test it now. But the kernel build now works fine for ia32, sparc and sparc64.
21:38 < Mike1> great
21:38 < Mike1> what about ppc and alpha?
21:38 < Mike1> and ia64
21:38 < Mike1> *g*
21:39 < huebi> ia64 iscrapp. the disk in the alpha is broken, as i had to mention yesterday.
21:39 < huebi> has somebody a ppc for me?
21:42 < Mike1> huebi: some weeks ago armijn told me he was going to work around alpha
21:42 < Mike1> i am waiting for rolla to give me access to his alpha so i can work on it as well
21:43 < Mike1> rolla: whats the status on this btw?
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21:46 < Mike1> who is the ppc port maintainer?
21:46 < huebi> I think clifford
21:47 < Mike1> arrggg then i guess he will not help us out getting 1.5 to build on ppc
21:47 < Mike1> huebi: we need a ppc
21:47 < huebi> ACK
21:47 < Mike1> i need an alpha and a sparc as well :(( damn i feel empty
21:49 < Mike1> huebi: mmm.... there are 58 broken links on the base archive
21:49 < Mike1> guess its time for me to work around this
21:52 < rolla> Mike1: sorry it should be up by monday
21:52 < huebi> Mike1: can you gib=ve me a list or can you fix it in cvs?
21:54 < Mike1> rolla: sure no worries :)
21:54 < Mike1> huebi: i will fix it dont worry
21:54 < huebi> Mike1: kool thanks
21:55 < Mike1> already working on it
22:00 < Mike1> huebi: do you want me to commit each pz file at the time or the 58 fixes in at one?
22:01 < huebi> Mike1: each at a time with a small comment what you have changed exactly would be great.
22:01 < Mike1> huebi: i always do my friend
22:02 < huebi> ;-)
22:05 < praenti> hi
22:05 < praenti> I HATE 1.7
22:06 < Mike1> praenti: how are you
22:06 < Mike1> praenti: hehe glibc stage 0 ?
22:06 < praenti> Mike1: no
22:06 < praenti> ./chew: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by ./chew)
22:06 * Mike1 has heard that expression at least 4 times today all from different people
22:06 < praenti> binutils stage 1
22:06 < huebi> praenti: moin
22:07 < Mike1> praenti: no idea i am still stuck with glibc
22:07 < praenti> and i dont know why this happen
22:07 < praenti> moin hub
22:07 < praenti> huebi
22:08 < praenti> huebi: how are you? "im stress"?
22:11 < huebi> praenti: not too much. only 98% of the maximun stress level is reached *gg*
22:11 < praenti> Mike1: i think you have a warm weather in cr? argh it is very cold here. and i dont like that...
22:11 < owl> hi praenti
22:11 < d3mian__> hi all
22:11 < Mike1> praenti: yes sunny with very soft and nice wind around
22:11 < Mike1> damn i love my country :)
22:11 < d3mian__> me2
22:12 < Mike1> hi d3mian__
22:12 < Mike1> praenti: though i like winter sports very much
22:12 -!- d3mian__ is now known as d3mian
22:13 < praenti> huebi: i know that at the moment. three professors are totally away from learning us s.th. now i must learn it by myself...
22:13 < d3mian> i hate winter sports btw ... prefer to play soccer and do things under sun
22:13 < d3mian> brb
22:13 < huebi> praenti: hard stuff...
22:13 < Mike1> huebi: how is the upload doing?
22:14 < praenti> Mike1: I'm not a winter sports freak. we have i think 2 or 3 weeks with snow and must of the time it is too little for skiing
22:14 < praenti> s/must/most
22:14 < Mike1> praenti: i see
22:14 < huebi> Mike1: I just download it directly on that server *g* 10MBit are 10MBit.
22:15 < Mike1> hehe
22:15 < Mike1> so its finished?
22:15 < Mike1> you should wait for my fixes btw
22:15 < Mike1> so far 3 packages fixed
22:15 < praenti> huebi: software engineering and physic and databases (but there i have a little more knowlegde as the rest)
22:15 < huebi> Mike1: not yet.
22:15 < huebi>  9216K ........ ...                                         100%  325.89 KB/s
22:16 < huebi> better than 16KB/s
22:16 < Mike1> nice
22:16 < Mike1> lol
22:16 < huebi> Connecting to ftp.kde.org[131.220.60.97]:21... connected.
22:16 < huebi> only 3 or 4 hops away
22:17 < praenti> webmaster. hey thats a cool idea
22:18 * praenti hopes for a better design and structure ;-)
22:18 < praenti> i know i'm too optimistic
22:18 < d3mian> anyone knows what's the cvs cmd to get clifford 1.7 sources ?
22:18 < huebi> praenti: Yes, we need one not involved in development at all.
22:19 < Mike1> huebi: wanna stick with eel-1.0.2 or can update it to 1.1.17 version?
22:19 < huebi> is eel 1.1.17 good for gnome 1 and 2?
22:19 < Mike1> d3mian: cvs -z 9 -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs checkout -P rock-src-1.7
22:19 < huebi> If yes, then do it.
22:19 < d3mian> s/checkout/co -> brief
22:20 < d3mian> thanx
22:20 < Mike1> huebi: for gnome 1 i guess so for gnome 2 i would go for 2.1
22:20 < praenti> huebi: i will ask a few persons in my university. there are some persons who have better ideas.
22:21 < Mike1> d3mian: welcome
22:21 < Mike1> huebi: perhaps i will stick with 1.0.2 as will will soon update to 2.1.x anyways
22:21 < Mike1> ok?
22:21 < huebi> ok
22:21 < praenti> d3mian: cvs -z 9 -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs checkout -P rock-src-1.7
22:22 < d3mian> than praenti 2 :)
22:22 * praenti must learn now a little bit. cu tomorrow
22:22 < huebi> Mike1: just fix the download locations, please, if possible. I don't want to update packages in the moment. That needs too much fixing and testing.
22:23 < Mike1> huebi: ack
22:23 < huebi> I want to release 1.5.20 in 3 days for sparc64 and ia32. I have enough work with the boot CDs.
22:24 < Mike1> huebi: yeah no worries but remember i am still supporting you :)
22:24 < huebi> good idea to download directly from the original places to the mirror server.
22:24 < Mike1> ack great idea actually
22:25 < huebi> Mike1: I know about your support and I'm very happy about it.
22:25 < d3mian> does rock's flist wrapper knows which files are created or modificated by the Build scripts ?
22:25 < huebi> d3mian: Yes, it does.
22:25 < d3mian> or flist logs also files created or modified by external applications during Build ?
22:26 < d3mian> how does it makes difference between files created by build scripts and and others ?
22:26 < huebi> d3mian: _all_ files created and deleted by Build-Pkg. directly or not.
22:26 < huebi> d3mian: no difference
22:26 < Mike1> huebi: btw how many of us are still on the 1.5 tree?
22:27 < huebi> Mike1: not enough to get it stable fast.
22:27 < d3mian> huebi: so if one created or modify a file during a build.. this file will be logged in the package flist ?
22:27 < huebi> d3mian: ack
22:27 < Mike1> huebi: :(
22:27 < d3mian> damnit
22:27 < d3mian> :'(
22:28 < d3mian> will be cool to log fopen calls which have build scripts as parent process.
22:28 < d3mian> but too hard
22:28 < tcr> gn8 all
22:28 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508137F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos")
22:28 < huebi> cu tcr
22:30 < d3mian> have u think any way to solute that prob? (avoid logging of file created by external processes - not rock's build scripts)
22:30 < huebi> d3mian: No, I havn't
22:31 < d3mian> i had an idea some days ago.. parse fopen calls by build scripts.. but a lot of files and libraries are open too when compiling or running apps. and if one do it, this will take a long time :(
22:42 < fake> 22:41:09 up 171 days, 0 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.10, 0.10, 0.05
22:42 < fake> weee!
22:42 < Mike1> nice fake
22:42 * fake away again (driving IO home)
22:42 < rolla> cool
22:42 < Ge0rG> 171 days? is it a rock?
22:42 < fake> err... *blushes* not yet,
22:42 < huebi> SMP: longer times please ;-)
22:43 < huebi> hi fake
22:43 < Mike1> huebi: hehe thats evil :)
22:43 * Ge0rG is going to celebrate 2 years uptime soon
22:43 < huebi> ~850 days?
22:43 < fake> o_O
22:43 < Mike1> fake: ok you just got ur ass kicked
22:44 < fake> well, that is a devbox, so it's rather amusing that we have such a great uptime
22:44 < Ge0rG>  10:44pm  up 690 days,  8:04,  2 users,  load average: 1.45, 1.16, 1.05
22:44 < Mike1> mm....
22:44 < huebi> Ge0rG: uname -a?
22:45 < d3mian> strace -etrace=open and then grep for O_CREAT .. will this work ?
22:45 < Ge0rG> huebi: Linux bender 2.2.16 #11 Tue Aug 22 12:21:12 CEST 2000 i486 unknown
22:45 < huebi> Ge0rG: kool ;-)
22:45 < fake> *lol*
22:45 < Mike1> Ge0rG: nice
22:46 < fake> however. l8ers ;)
22:46 < Ge0rG> bye fake
22:46 < Mike1> cu fake
22:48 < d3mian> da u think that use strace for this purpose.. log fopen calls could take a long time ?
22:48 < d3mian> if i use it and filter O_CREATE calls, i think this will work for a specific process
22:49 < d3mian> sth like:  strace <process>  -etrace=open | grep O_CREAT and some extra stuff
22:51 < d3mian> umm..
22:52 < d3mian> for modified files. one could use -etrace=open,write,erase
22:52 < huebi> Mike1: The upload is allmost finished.
22:52 < Mike1> neat
22:52 < Mike1> one more hours and i will finish the broken url packages fix
22:53 < huebi> owl: please /msg me your address
22:53 < Mike1> huebi: owl@msn.com
22:53 < Mike1> *g*
22:54 < owl> Mike1: *arghl*
22:54 < huebi> *lol*
22:54 < owl> huebi: got it?
22:55 < huebi> Mike1: base-archive is up to date
22:55 < huebi> owl: YES.
22:55 < Mike1> huebi: ok i will wget now
22:55 < Mike1> thanks huebi
22:57 < owl> *argh* that notebook kills me!
22:57 < owl> has someone experience with a acer aspire 1300?
22:58 < d3mian> cya -> making some tests
22:58 < owl> with s3 savage4 ...?
22:58 < Mike1> have fun d3mian
22:58 < owl> bye d3mian
22:59 < Mike1> huebi: BTW only base-archive right?
22:59 < Mike1> what about ext-archive and opt-archive?
22:59 < term_emu> good night
22:59 < huebi> Mike1: ack. opt is still running but must also be finished soon.
23:00 < huebi> cu term_emu
23:00 < Mike1> huebi: ah nice
23:00 -!- term_emu [~pm@p50819244.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("zz")
23:09 < huebi> opt-archive is ready, too
23:10 -!- Freak [freak@p5083903A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
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23:12 < d3mian> hackbard
23:12 < d3mian> Freak
23:12 < d3mian> re
23:12 < Freak> d3mian
23:12 < Freak> tanks
23:13 < Mike1> huebi: thanks already fetching :)
23:14 < Mike1> hi Freaky und hackbard
23:14 < Freak> hi mike
23:15 < hackbard> hi
23:15 < Freak> all is full of "hi".
23:15 < owl> hi hackbard, Freak
23:15 < Mike1> Freak: ?
23:15 < Freak> ;)
23:15 < Freak> nevermind
23:16 < Mike1> aszlig: awake?
23:21 < owl> gn8
23:21 -!- d3mian [~demian@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux ()
23:21 < huebi> cu owl
23:21 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B59a3.pppool.de] has quit ("_NULL stops fighting with the fscking acer --> zzZZZzz")
23:29 < Mike1> huebi: as you said on ur mail to the RLML my 1.5 sources will be up to date by tomorrow
23:30 < huebi> Mike1: very nice. A next big mail about 1.5.20 will be sent in a short time.
23:30 < Mike1> oh yeah?
23:30 < Mike1> i will be looking forward to read it :)
23:30 < Mike1> have you updated the ext-archive as well btw?
23:31 < huebi> gzip->bzip2 + cksum-test: ext-archive/mysql/mysql-3.23.51.tar.gz
23:31 < huebi> just now....
23:33 < Mike1> :)
23:39 < Mike1> *yawn*
23:39 * Mike1 getting coffee
23:53 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BE7D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:53 < tsa> hola!
23:54 < Mike1> hola tsa
23:54 < tsa> hola Mike1, como te va?
23:54 < Mike1> muy bien gracias Dios y a ti?
23:54 < tsa> ah, muy bien, gracias.
23:54 < Mike1> que bueno
23:55 < Mike1> donde has estado no te habia visto hoy
23:55 < tsa> ah...
23:55 < tsa> si, tuve que trabajar mucho hoy.
23:56 < tsa> pero ahora estoy muy borracho ;-=)
23:57 < Mike1> ah borracho ... y por que no me invitaste a la fiesta? no es justo olvidarse de los amigos!!
23:58 < Mike1> mmm... Cliffords reply to huebi's mail doesnt look so good
23:58 < tsa> no, not really. clifford seems to be kind of "pissed off", i'd say..
23:59 < Mike1> tsa: welll what can he spect there arent to many of us working on 1.5 anymore...
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