--- Log opened Sun Nov 10 00:00:09 2002
--- Day changed Sun Nov 10 2002
00:00 < Mike1> i am off
00:00 < esden> cu Mike1 
00:00 < Mike1> esdy fooblah owl^afk have a great weekend
00:01 < Mike1> esden: god bless you my friend :)
00:01 < Mike1> cu all
00:01 < owl^afk> you too. bye Mike1
00:01 < fooblah> Mike1: cu
00:01 < esden> Mike1: god bless you too 
00:01 < tsa> http://pornview.sourceforge.net/
00:01 < fooblah> Mike1: great weekend too ;)
00:03 < Mike1> damn
00:03 < Mike1> delayed for 1/2 a bit
00:03 < Mike1> tsa: nice link
00:03 < owl^afk> tsa, tsa, tsa... *tstststs*
00:03 < Mike1> now i go
00:03 < Mike1> bye
00:04 < tsa> cu Mike1
00:04 < Mike1> que tengas un buen fin de semana Sebastian
00:04 < tsa> gracias.
00:05 < tsa> tengo mucho trabajo, pero vamos a ver que pasa..
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00:25 < esden> hmm ... I have to test that peace of software ;-)
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00:28 < _NULL> re
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00:34 < esden> re owl 
00:42 < owl> gn8. cu
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01:00 < fooblah> i go to bed now... n8
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01:12 < huebi> re
01:13 < esden> argh ... that is stupid ... when you have no cdrom you can not run "package remove / install" ...
01:13 < huebi> esden: ack
01:13 < esden> hmm .. /me needs to patch a bit ...
01:14 < huebi> esden: Yes, good idea. How about LC display in 1.5?
01:15 < huebi> esden: ??
01:15 < esden> I am not at my machine .. I am currently in munich far away from my machine ... otherwise I would be currently sitting on that ...
01:16 < huebi> esden: on that issue or on that machine? ;-)
01:16 < esden> on that issue
01:16 < huebi> esden: kool. Id would be nice if it comes into 1.5.20.
01:16 < netrunner> esden: if you don't rely on _your_ machine, come here, I'll give you a terminal :)
01:18 < esden> huebi: I do not think that it will be possible ... I am too seldom at home ... and that is the only place where I can do the work
01:18 < huebi> hmmm...
01:18 < huebi> bad boy esden
01:18 < esden> not bad boy ... a busy boy ... ;-)
01:18 < huebi> *g*
01:19 < huebi> busy with the wrong thinks.
01:19 < esden> no ... with the university things ... when I would not have to do something for my university I would not be here in munich ...
01:20 < huebi> esden: only ugly girls in munich?
01:20 < esden> hmm ... no ... 
01:20 < esden> but girls ... are the wrong things curently ...
01:21 < huebi> jung men?
01:21 * -> esden has no time for girls currently ...
01:21 < huebi> *g*
01:21 < esden> iii ...!!!
01:21 < huebi> *LOOOL*
01:21 < esden> huebi: you are ugly
01:21 < esden> !
01:21 < huebi> esden: Ok. I visit the hairdresser on monday.
01:22 < esden> o_O
01:22 < esden>  _$_
01:22 < esden> |o_O|
01:23 < esden> the pharao smeyley
01:23 < esden> the wondering pharao
01:23 < huebi> ;-)
01:25 < owl^zzZZZz> re
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01:25 < huebi> Schlafeule
01:25 < owl> huebi: huh?
01:25 < huebi> owl^zzZZZz
01:25 < owl> DVDeule... ;)
01:26 < huebi> axo
01:26 < owl> hm. war uspruenglich geplant. na ja. habe mich mal wieder _ver_plant :-/
01:26 < esden> owl: das ist da selbe wie eine inproduktive eule
01:26 < owl> aber dieses leih-notebook... das bringt mich ins grab
01:26 < esden> ?
01:27 < owl> esden: *lol* sag' das nicht. au9f morpheus baue ich gerade 1.7 und leech 1.5 sourcen ;P
01:27 < owl> esden: frag' nicht... "your system is too slow" (fuers dvd gucken...) ist ja nur ein 1.4 ghz-notebook
01:28 < esden> ...
01:28 < owl> sound - grausam. lautsprecher - ein witz... console hat man auch erst heftigst mit rumfscken muessen, dass man da nicht in der mitte des bildschirms ein 640x480-console hatte... etc. pp.
01:29 < owl> bin ich froh, dass das nur "mein" temporaeres notebook ist... hoffendlich kommt mein geliebtes asus bald von der reparatur... ;)
01:31 < huebi> autoconf 2.54 und automake 1.7.1 sind jetzt in 1.5
01:32 < huebi> owl: ftp://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/pub/linux/rocklinux/rock-pkg-1.5 <- schneller mirror
01:32 < huebi> meistens jedenfalls
01:33 < owl> huebi: ok. danke. wenn ich noch 'ne schnelle connection haette waere das super :-/
01:34 * huebi updating package source files on stud
01:35 < owl> huebi: liegt an der uni darmstadt immer 'ne aktuelle 1.5er iso?
01:35 < huebi> owl: ab montag
01:36 < owl> huebi: oki. thx. ;)
01:36 < owl> haben die studenten auch zugriff uebers intranet?
01:36 < huebi> jo
01:36 < owl> ok ;)
01:38 < esden> owl du hast probleme ... du hast einfach nicht genug geduld ... und ausdauer ...
01:39 < esden> ok ... ich versuche mir jetzt kde auf meinem lappy anzuschauen
01:39 * -> esden brb
01:39 < owl> esden: quark. ich habe das zeug doch noch zum laufen bekommen. was haste?
01:51 < owl> so. genug jetzt. gute nacht. bye
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01:52 < huebi> cu owl^zzZZZz
02:21 < tsa> n8
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02:52 < huebi> cu later.
02:52 * huebi goes bak to the office... starting a few new builds
02:53 < huebi> ...wech
04:14 < chrisime> hm
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06:22 < paperclip> not much.. just got home..
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10:27 < fooblah|at_bed> anybody here?
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10:31 < fooblah> blindcoder: hello
10:36 < blindcoder> moin
10:36 < fooblah> <<has a problem :(
10:37 < blindcoder> mhich?
10:37 < fooblah> checking installed Linux kernel header files... TOO OLD!
10:37 < fooblah> configure: error: GNU libc requires kernel header files from
10:37 < fooblah> Linux 2.0.10 or later to be installed before configuring.
10:37 < fooblah> The kernel header files are found usually in /usr/include/asm and
10:37 < fooblah> Linux 2.0.10 or later.  This check uses <linux/version.h>, so
10:37 < fooblah> make sure that file was built correctly when installing the kernel header
10:37 < fooblah> files.  To use kernel headers not from /usr/include/linux, use the
10:37 < fooblah> configure option --with-headers.
10:37 < fooblah> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-glibc.out -> 9-glibc.err
10:37 < fooblah> == 11/10/02 10:33:45 =[9]=> Aborted building package glibc.
10:37 < fooblah> but i've got kernel headers 2.4.19
10:37 < fooblah> and the version.h is in /usr/src/linux and in $root/usr/...
10:37 < blindcoder> ??? haven't had that error...
10:38 < blindcoder> but have a look if /usr/include/asm is is there
10:38 < fooblah> it is
10:38 < fooblah> i try to compile glibc manual
10:39 < blindcoder> okay
10:39 < blindcoder> it looks like the asm-symlink isn't there
10:39 < blindcoder> go to usr/src/linux and do a make sfmlinks
10:39 < fooblah> ok
10:39 < blindcoder> make symlinks
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10:44 < fooblah> :( it won't
10:45 < Eisofen> 'lo
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10:51 < blindcoder> fooblah: with make symlinks? strange
10:51 < blindcoder> hi Eisofen
10:53 * Eisofen just downloads 1.5.19-iso....
10:54 < fooblah> 1.5.20 will release tomorrow - or?
10:55 < Eisofen> I don't want to wait for tomorrow ;-)
10:55 < fooblah> ;)
10:55 < Eisofen> is iso.rocklinux.de restricted to 30k/sec?
10:56 < blindcoder> Eisofen: I don't think so
10:56 < blindcoder> fooblah: it should be today
10:57 < Eisofen> 'cause my dl crawls with only ~30k here...
11:01 < blindcoder> I have the same probs with T-DSL
11:07 < Eisofen> i'm on t-dsl...
11:07 < Eisofen> ;-)
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11:09 < blindcoder> moin tcr
11:09 < tcr> moin all
11:09 < blindcoder> *ARGH: SHIT FUCKING for LOOPS
11:09 < blindcoder> can someone ekplain this to me:
11:09 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# for x in `ls --quoting-style=escape /dvd/` ; do echo $x ; done
11:10 < blindcoder> Abenobashi\
11:10 < blindcoder> Shoutengai\
11:10 < blindcoder> Mahou\
11:10 < blindcoder> -\
11:10 < blindcoder> 01.avi
11:10 < blindcoder> Abenobashi\
11:10 < blindcoder> Shoutengai\
11:10 < blindcoder> Mahou\
11:10 < blindcoder> -\
11:10 < blindcoder> 02.avi
11:10 < blindcoder> Abenobashi\
11:10 < blindcoder> Shoutengai\
11:10 < tcr> what bash version?
11:10 < blindcoder> Mahou\
11:10 < blindcoder> -\
11:10 < blindcoder> 03.avi
11:10 < blindcoder> Abenobashi\
11:10 < blindcoder> Shoutengai\
11:10 < blindcoder> Mahou\
11:10 < blindcoder> -\
11:10 < blindcoder> 04.avi
11:10 < blindcoder> GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i686-pc-linux-gnu)
11:10 < blindcoder> how can I make x hold the complete filename including the ' '
11:10 < blindcoder> ?
11:13 < blindcoder> for x in "a b j" "def" ; do echo $x; done
11:14 < blindcoder> works just fine
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11:21 < blindcoder> WTF does bash behave differently when run from a script instead of interactive? what's that shit good for?
11:22 < tcr> what do you want to use in scripts?
11:22 < fooblah> l8r - i go to mcdonalds - breakfast ;)
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11:23 < blindcoder> tcr: I have filenames containing spaces
11:23 < tcr> jau
11:23 < blindcoder> and I want to use them within a for-loop
11:23 < blindcoder> but:
11:23 < blindcoder> for x in `ls -Q /cdrom/` ; do echo $x ; done
11:24 < blindcoder> when invoked from the console it works just fine
11:24 < tcr> i proposed a way how to handle such filenames, why don't you intend to use it?
11:24 < blindcoder> hmmm it didn't come up here, maybe because of the NetSplit
11:24 < tcr> oks
11:25 < tcr> <blindcoder> how can I make x hold the complete filename including the ' '
11:25 < tcr> <blindcoder> ?
11:25 < tcr> <tcr> while read filename; do echo $filename; done < <( ls $OPTIONS /dvd/ )
11:25 < tcr> <tcr> ls $OPTIONS /dvd | while read filename; do echo $filename; done
11:25 < tcr> <tcr> the first is prefered for big data volumnes
11:25 < blindcoder> definately didn't come up, I'll try it
11:25 < blindcoder> mom
11:27 < blindcoder> sweet! works just fine! I owe you one for that :)
11:28 < blindcoder> btw. what's the difference between the two lines desite the fact that ls comes first?
11:29 < tcr> for var in `command`; do ... ; done
11:29 < tcr> will become for var in result_of_command; do ...; done
11:30 < tcr> e.g. for filename in first filename second filename; do ...; done ... instead of for filename in "first filename" "second filename"; do ...; done
11:30 < blindcoder> yes but the result would contain " around the files according to the -Q parameter
11:32 < tcr> ?
11:32 < tcr> hm
11:32 < tcr> lemme check
11:33 < Eisofen> damn..
11:33 < blindcoder> Eisofen: hm?
11:33 < Eisofen> is there another mirror for 1.5.19-isos somewhere?
11:35 < blindcoder> don't think so, why?
11:35 < tcr> Eisofen: tomorrow 1.5.20 will be released
11:35 < tcr> blindcoder: that seems to be a bash bug
11:36 < Eisofen> because of this 30k/sec speed limit I get here.. takes me ~5 hours to dl that iso....
11:36 < tcr> you should go ahead and ask the mailing list, why it doesnt work ... and if this is intended as it is or not
11:36 < tcr> @ blindcoder
11:37 < Eisofen> ok.. I could build from gentoo (chroot) but the guide is unclear for me at this point....
11:37 < blindcoder> tcr: it's not for ROCK, it's for my private CD-Archive :)
11:38 < blindcoder> or do you mean  the bash-ML?
11:38 < tcr> jap
11:39 < blindcoder> Eisofen: well... a little patience isn't always bad :) but you should check if there are other things running killing your bandwidth
11:39 < blindcoder> tcr: okay
11:40 < blindcoder> TDSL is async that means that 8 kB upstream are killing ~45 kB downstream
11:42 < Eisofen> hehe
11:42 < blindcoder> ?
11:43 < blindcoder> what are you laughing about?
11:44 < Eisofen> but there is nothing than IRC and the download running atm... my firewall rorts that too: Cur Out:
11:44 < Eisofen> 795 Bytes/s
11:44 < Eisofen> anyway...
11:44 < Eisofen> s/rorts/reports
11:44 < blindcoder> strange...
11:45 < blindcoder> you should ask LocalHero about that... it's his box...
11:46 < Eisofen> well.. I think I'm not the only one who will get some from that server ;-)
11:47 < blindcoder> yeah but I don't think there are that many peoplo to kill a 100MBit/s line
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12:52 < owl^zzZZZz> goodp morng oihn
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12:53 < owl> aeh. good morning....
12:54 < Eisofen> morn' owl
12:56 < owl> hi Eisofen
12:58 < owl> *argh* fscking proxy! needs reboot. brb
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13:00 < owl> re
13:02 < Eisofen> .oO( sind ja fast nur deutsche hier..)
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13:52 < esden> morning @ all
14:15 < owl> morgen esden
14:17 < esden> morgen owl
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14:17 < fooblah> hio
14:18 < owl> tach fooblah
14:18 < fooblah> owl: hio
14:19 < chrisime_> esden, jo!
14:19 < fooblah> <<hat nen prob :(
14:19 < esden> hi chrisime_ 
14:19 < esden> hi fooblah 
14:19 < fooblah> esden: hi
14:19 < fooblah> i can't compile glibc3.2 - it needs some kernel headers - they are in /usr/include/.. - so whats wrong? :/
14:21 < esden> you are missing a symlink from /usr/src/linux/include /usr/include/linux ... or so
14:21 < esden> let me check
14:21 < fooblah> i did
14:21 < fooblah> i done:
14:21 < fooblah> make symlink ;)
14:22 < esden> ls -la /usr/include
14:22 < esden> [snip]
14:22 < fooblah> moment
14:22 < esden> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           24 Nov  9 07:37 asm -> ../src/linux/include/asm
14:22 < fooblah> he needs a version.h
14:23 < esden> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           32 Nov  9 07:37 asm-generic -> ../src/linux/include/asm-generic
14:23 < fooblah> this header is in /usr/include...
14:23 < esden> ahh ... then you have not make make menuconfig in your linux kernel source directory
14:23 < esden> after that the header is being created
14:24 < esden> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           26 Nov  9 07:37 linux -> ../src/linux/include/linux
14:24 < esden> ok that are the three symlinks you need
14:24 < fooblah> hmm...
14:25 < fooblah> moment
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14:26 < jbalint> Hi all.
14:26 < esden> hi jbalint 
14:27 * -> esden playing with lego ;-)
14:27 < chrisime_> isses gut nen union in nen struct zu stecken, ich mein in c++
14:27 < chrisime_> net c
14:27 * chrisime_ denkt dass es net gut ist
14:27 < esden> chrisime_: export LANG=en_EN ... otherwise noone will talk with you ...
14:27 < jbalint> I have been thinking about added zisofs to create-iso but I wanted to run it past everyone here.
14:27 < chrisime_> das design wird dadurch net beser
14:27 < chrisime_> esden, aah
14:27 < chrisime_> ;)
14:28 < jbalint> Good/bad thought?
14:29 < esden> jbalint: it is a cool idea ... but what would that bring us ... the cd is consisting already of bz2 compressed packets ...
14:29 < blindcoder> boy is the bootdisk target screwed
14:29 < jbalint> Good point.
14:29 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg amd-boot
14:29 < blindcoder> Error logs from build/amd-boot-1.7-snapshot-ia32-bootdisk-expert/root/var/adm/logs:
14:29 < blindcoder>  [3] base/ncurses          [3] base/perl5            [3] base/groff
14:29 < esden> adding such an option ... would be pretty cool ... yes 
14:29 < blindcoder>  [3] base/nvi              [3] base/autoconf         [3] base/automake
14:29 < blindcoder>  [3] base/procps           [5] base/linux24          [5] base/glibc22
14:29 < blindcoder>  [5] base/bonnie++         [5] base/autoconf         [5] base/automake
14:29 < blindcoder>  [5] base/dialog           [5] base/minicom          [5] base/setserial
14:29 < blindcoder>  [5] base/netkit-telnet    [7] base/perl5
14:30 < blindcoder> 135 builds total, 118 completed fine, 17 with errors.
14:30 < esden> blindcoder: I know that ... >_<
14:30 < esden> I have to take a look at it ... ...
14:30 < jbalint> Maybe I'll investigate a little more and come back when I have more infos.
14:30 < blindcoder> esden: how did you create yours then?
14:31 < esden> I am not there yet ... to create one
14:31 < blindcoder> oh and btw esden: you _really_ should deactivate dietlibc for stage 0 and 1
14:31 < esden> fake made some very bad things to the bootdisk target to get it running ...
14:31 < esden> blindcoder: aha ... should I ?
14:32 < blindcoder> esden: otherwise no dietlibc package will build... unless you have it on your host-system
14:32 < esden> Error logs from build/default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-athlon-tbird-generic-expert/root/var/adm/logs:
14:33 < esden> 1076 builds total, 902 completed fine, 174 with errors.
14:33 < esden> hmm ... 
14:33 < blindcoder> I'm net through with generic yet...
14:34 < esden> most of the errors are the rene and X11 repository1s
14:34 < blindcoder> And I'm hungry...
14:34 < esden> blindcoder: then eat something .... !!
14:34 < blindcoder> because of imlib2 faising about half of renes packages don't build
14:35 < esden> yes ... that is correct
14:35 < blindcoder> I don't know what. and eating alone is no fun
14:35 < esden> but you are not hungry after that ...
14:36 < blindcoder> yes but I don't want to eat right now when having to eat lonely
14:36 < esden> get some bread ... some meat and some cheese and that is it ..
14:36 < blindcoder> I'm currently reindexing 200+ CD's (including md5sums)
14:36 < fooblah> drink a coffee ;)
14:36 < blindcoder> fooblah: same thing had to go down to the kitchen
14:38 < esden> blindcoder: when you are to lazy to go down to the kitchen then do not wheenee around that you are hungry !
14:38 < blindcoder> :P
14:39 < blindcoder> then I will whine about ROCK not gompiling!
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14:43 < blindcoder> hmmm anyone here with a K6 Image of ROCK 1.5?
14:43 < esden> hmm ... blindcoder do not whine ... fix it !
14:43 < blindcoder> esden: how if I don't even know WHY it fails?
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14:44 < blindcoder> for one thing: I can only compile with gcc2
14:44 < blindcoder> for another: ncurses says that the C PreProcessor fails the sanity check... wtf?
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14:45 < blindcoder> I can't do anything about it if I don't understand the error tor know if I even compile ROCK the ricgh way
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14:51 < blindcoder> checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
14:51 < blindcoder> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
14:52 < blindcoder> esden: maybe _you_ can say something about it
14:53 < fooblah> for what is dietlibc?
14:53 < fooblah> an alternate to glibc?
14:55 < blindcoder> fooblah: dietlibc is a very small libc
14:55 < blindcoder> designed/intended to be used in devices where hard disx space is minimal
14:56 < blindcoder> it can also be used for boot-disks because there, spaco  is limited to 2.88 MB
14:56 < blindcoder> and that's where ROCK uses it :)
14:57 < blindcoder> it's not "stable" yet, as in "you can use anything with it"
14:58 < esden> blindcoder: I am now compiling the bootdisk target ... and will take a look at it when it fails
14:58 < blindcoder> okay thanks
14:59 < blindcoder> what compiler?
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15:06 < esden> 3.0
15:06 < esden> i mean 3.2
15:06 < esden> i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc-3
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15:13 < blindcoder> hmm I use 2.95 cause 3.2 doesn't work
15:13 < blindcoder> 001:  - gcc3
15:13 < esden> hmm ... 3.2 is working very good for me
15:14 < blindcoder> it crashes when using optimisations or when compiling glibc221/gcc3
15:14 < esden> the err list I have posted earlier was compiling with 3.2
15:14 < blindcoder> but I can give it another try
15:15 < esden> blindcoder: then it seems that it is your setup that has problems ... 
15:15 < blindcoder> hmm compiling ROCK you need to switch back and forth betweet gcc2 and gcc3
15:15 < blindcoder> not only mine if you have a look at the mailinglist
15:15 < fooblah> <<has problems building glibc3.2
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15:16 < blindcoder> glibc2.3 or gcc 3.2?
15:16 < fooblah> when will a new snapshot release?
15:16 < fooblah> glibc
15:16 < blindcoder> fooblah: seldom... I use CVS
15:16 < fooblah> hmm...
15:17 < fooblah> lets try the cvs ;)
15:17 < blindcoder> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `vncviewer.man'
15:17 < blindcoder> *lol*
15:17 < blindcoder> just spotted this in the build-process :)
15:18 * blindcoder getting something to eat
15:22 < fooblah> whats better - use gcc3.2 or the pseudo cross compiler? gcc - isn't it?
15:29 < blindcoder> it's the same
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15:30 < blindcoder> it basically means to use the compiler an your system
15:30 < blindcoder> or build a npecial one and compile with that
15:30 < fooblah> i know - so i take gcc - the pseudo compiler takes some time - doesn't it?
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15:32 < blindcoder> if you deactivate the pseudo then your hosts gcc is used which doesn't always worx out. you can try without compiling a new one (takes ~5 minuten here) but you may encounter problems
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15:37 < esden> geil ... geil !!! woot ... weeee !!! http://www.bchat.net .... we will get problems when marino gets aware of it !!! 
15:38 < blindcoder> yes we will
15:38 < blindcoder> see http://www.bingo-chat.de
15:38 < esden> so he should not get aware of it
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15:39 < esden>     About 0 documents matched the query bingo-chat.de
15:39 < esden> no matches
15:40 < esden> answer from denic
15:40 < blindcoder> is was registered some time ago... and thon pointed to www.bingo-ev.de because of marino
15:41 < esden> yes I know ... that was in the days of alex
15:41 < esden> and marino ... stupid ... 
15:42 < blindcoder> hmm... I thimk I know why cpp is not working...
15:42 < esden> ?
15:43 < blindcoder> buildng gcc3 fails very late... so the cpp gets built and - as it seems - installed
15:43 < blindcoder> but half the gcc-libs are missing
15:46 < owl> re
15:47 < esden> blindcoder: hmm ... 
15:47 < blindcoder> hi owly
15:47 < blindcoder> well let's see if it compilos new >_<
15:48 < blindcoder> I have two builds in parallel so it takes a while
15:49 < blindcoder> and there it failed again
15:50 < esden> <flood> 
15:50 < esden> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/data/1.7/build/src.linux24.1036939689.14432.3426988646/linux-2.4.19'
15:50 < esden> .depend:1: *** multiple target patterns.  Stop.
15:50 < esden> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/data/1.7/build/src.linux24.1036939689.14432.3426988646/linux-2.4.19'
15:50 < esden> make: *** [dep-files] Error 2
15:50 < esden> </flood>
15:50 < esden> argh !!!
15:50 < esden> what does it mean ???
15:51 < blindcoder> no idea
15:51 < blindcoder> what does thi mean:
15:51 < blindcoder> /R.work/src.gcc3.1036938212.22965.2410290527/gcc-3.2/objdir/i386-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/include/i386-pc-linux-gnu/bits/ctype_noninline.h:78: `
15:51 < blindcoder>    X__ctype_tolower' undeclared (first use this function)
15:51 < esden> X__ctype_tolower seems not to be defined ...
15:51 < esden> strange !
15:51 < blindcoder> you don't say... it,s in locale.lo
15:52 < esden> what gcc have you installed on your host system ?
15:52 < blindcoder> BUT:
15:52 < blindcoder> =*=         Disable National Language Support
15:52 < blindcoder> now THAT'S strange
15:52 < blindcoder> gcc2
15:52 < blindcoder> and I use a cross-gcc3
15:52 < blindcoder> and it is already stage 2
15:52 < esden> then install gcc3 and your problems will be gone
15:53 < esden> I suppose at least so ... 
15:53 < blindcoder> hmmm you think I can use Build-Pkg from 1.7 or better 1.5?
15:53 < blindcoder> you SUPPOSE?
15:53 < esden> 1.7
15:53 < esden> do it ... 
15:53 < esden> do not discuss ...
15:53 < esden> ;-)
15:53 < blindcoder> So I might as well screw up  my build-environment
15:54 < esden> no you will not screw up
15:54 < esden> I have on my host system (rock 1.5.12) installed gcc2 (1.7 snapshot) and gcc3 (1.7 snapshot )
15:54 < esden> and I do not have your problems
15:56 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Build-Pkg gcc3
15:56 < blindcoder> well I have 1.5.19 ... that may say something...
15:56 < blindcoder> hmm
15:57 < blindcoder> for x in package*/* ; do Build-Pkg $x ; done
15:57 < blindcoder> :D
15:57 < blindcoder> for x in package/*/* ; do Build-Pkg $x ; done
15:57 < blindcoder> one / missing :)
16:00 < owl> /KILL PARENTS! *AAAAAAAAARGH*
16:00 < blindcoder> well, that's a _loud_ statement
16:01 < esden>  /KILLOWL! *AAAAAAAAARGH*
16:01 < owl> yes.
16:01 < owl> esden: you even don't know my fscking parents. so let me kill them if _i_ want!
16:01 < blindcoder> esden: whun gcc3 is finished then just rebuild the cross-compiler and the Stage [01] gcc ?
16:01 < esden> yes ... think so ... 
16:02 < blindcoder> hmm\
16:02 < esden> but I am not sure because I have first built gcc3 and then started to build rock
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16:03 < blindcoder> from my point of view it shouldn't matter because of the pseudo-cc
16:04 < blindcoder> that's what it is there for, after all
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16:08 < blindcoder> esden: what libc have you running
16:09 < blindcoder> Error logs from build/amd-1.7-snapshot-ia32-generic-expert/root/var/adm/logs:
16:09 < blindcoder> 567 builds total, 512 completed fine, 55 with errors.
16:09 < blindcoder> and because it is so funny:
16:09 < blindcoder> == 15:48:48 =[9]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2 1.7-snapshot].
16:09 < blindcoder> -> Reading package configuration from pkg dir.
16:09 < blindcoder> -> Preparing build in src.gcc3.1036939721.20207.1157911437
16:09 < blindcoder> -> Building. Writing output to /var/adm/logs/9-gcc3.out
16:09 < blindcoder> !> /usr/src/rock-src-1.7/src.gcc3.1036939721.20207.11579114 ..
16:09 < blindcoder> !>    undeclared identifier is reported only once for each  ..
16:09 < blindcoder> !>    in.)
16:09 < blindcoder> !> make[3]: *** [locale.lo] Error 1
16:09 < blindcoder> !> make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/rock-src-1.7/src.gc ..
16:09 < blindcoder> !> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
16:10 < blindcoder> !> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/rock-src-1.7/src.gc ..
16:10 < blindcoder> !> make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
16:10 < blindcoder> !> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/rock-src-1.7/src.gc ..
16:10 < blindcoder> !> make: *** [all-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 2
16:10 < blindcoder> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-gcc3.out -> 9-gcc3.err
16:10 < blindcoder> == 11/10/02 16:01:38 =[9]=> Aborted building package gcc3.
16:10 < blindcoder> I think I'll install the 1.5.19 gcc3
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16:15 < _NULL> re
16:27 < blindcoder> andonce again THAT SHIT FUCKING gcc3 does NOT compile\
16:28 < blindcoder> with te very same error
16:28 < blindcoder> == 16:12:46 =[9]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2 1.7-snapshot].
16:28 < blindcoder> -> Reading package configuration from pkg dir.
16:28 < blindcoder> -> Preparing build in src.gcc3.1036941144.9306.4131295880
16:28 < blindcoder> -> Building. Writing output to /var/adm/logs/9-gcc3.out
16:28 < blindcoder> !> /usr/src/rock-src-1.7/src.gcc3.1036941144.9306.413129588 ..
16:28 < blindcoder> !>    undeclared identifier is reported only once for each  ..
16:28 < blindcoder> !>    in.)
16:28 < blindcoder> !> make[3]: *** [locale.lo] Error 1
16:28 < blindcoder> !> make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/rock-src-1.7/src.gc ..
16:28 < blindcoder> !> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
16:28 < blindcoder> !> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/rock-src-1.7/src.gc ..
16:28 < blindcoder> !> make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
16:28 < blindcoder> !> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/rock-src-1.7/src.gc ..
16:28 < blindcoder> !> make: *** [all-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 2
16:28 < blindcoder> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-gcc3.out -> 9-gcc3.err
16:28 < blindcoder> == 11/10/02 16:20:01 =[9]=> Aborted building package gcc3.
16:28 < blindcoder> if I could be sure that my system deosn't crash totally I would try with glibc 2.3.1
16:29 < blindcoder> esden: you're not by any chance here, are you?
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16:40 < esden> yess alsa works !!!
16:41 < esden> hmm ... sorry crash ... but I do not know this error ...
16:41 < esden> there is nomething really messed up ...
16:42 < blindcoder> esden: can I just install glibc231 into my running system?
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17:02 < Eisofen> ree
17:04 < esden> blindcoder: should be possible
17:05 < lightweight> exim
17:09 < lightweight> Villageidiot : /etc/X11/something with error
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17:11 < capchaos> hi
17:11 < owl^DVD> hi capchaos
17:12 < capchaos> owl^DVD: moin owl, you are available in DVD format now?
17:13 < owl^DVD> capchaos: *lol* not really. or not yet? ;)
17:13 < capchaos> owl^DVD: coming soon?
17:13 < owl^DVD> capchaos: i still dunno. ;)
17:16 < lightweight> emacsen: use proc for information and bring it up with ifconfig
17:17 < lightweight> Villageidiot check /etc/X11/
17:18 < owl^DVD> lightweight: ???
17:18 < owl^DVD> lightweight: wrong channel ...?
17:19 < capchaos> <flame> Vi is to Emacs like masturbation is to sex - always available but not the first choice. </flame>
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17:21 < martin> hi all.
17:22 < capchaos> hi martin
17:22 < owl^DVD> hi martin
17:22 < martin> hi capchaos, hi owl^DVD
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17:23 < esden> who would buy owl on DVD ?
17:23 < esden> perhups I will then get her convert to MPEG4 and pack on a disc ...
17:24 < owl> esden: eh!
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17:24 < esden> owl: ?
17:24 < esden> you do not want to be packed on a DVD disc ?
17:24 < esden> you want for sure !
17:25 < esden> then you can be inserted in dvd players .. you like such things ... I am sure ...
17:25 < owl> esden: i don't wanna packed to a DVD or even to a CD
17:25 < esden> ach ... you are lying ... !
17:26 < owl> esden: nope. not really. i just prefer fscking my computers... not becoming inserted to a dvd-device...
17:27 < esden> then you can fsck your computers for real !
17:27 < esden> from the inside !
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17:27 < owl> esden: thx a lot. i prefer doing it from outside.
17:28 < owl> esden: but as it sounds - you wanna fsck your computers from inside... might someone should burn you onto a dvd or cd...
17:28 < esden> ahh ... yes right ... you are femail so you prefere computers being inserted in you ... ;-)
17:29 < owl> esden: of course ;P
17:30 < esden> tztz
17:30 < owl> esden: *g* where exactly is your problem? ;)
17:31 < esden> nowhere ...
17:31 < esden> why ?
17:31 < capchaos> owl: maybe esden wants to be a computer ;)
17:31 < owl> esden: because of this: <esden> tztz
17:32 < owl> capchaos: *g* but if esden would be a computer, i would stop fscking computers...
17:38 < capchaos> owl: and fsck what instead?
17:38 < capchaos> owl: cell phones?
17:39 < capchaos> mine has a nice vibration, maybe i could lend it to you ;)
17:39 < owl> capchaos: yep ;P
17:39 < owl> capchaos: no thx.
17:40 < blindcoder> sweet
17:41 < blindcoder> gcc3 rompiles just fine with glibc231
17:41 < esden> blindcoder: good
17:47 < blindcoder> and just about anything else
17:48 < esden> you were not using glibc231 ? 
17:48 < esden> hmm ... I think I should read your posts correctly ...
17:49 < blindcoder> no I wasn't
17:50 < blindcoder> because it broke
17:50 < blindcoder> I think one has to switch back and forth when comiling on a non-1.7 non-glibc231 non-gcc3 system
17:52 < esden> hmm ... strange ....
17:52 < esden> I had not to switch ...
17:52 < esden> you have done something wrong I think
17:54 < blindcoder> I have no gcc3
17:54 < blindcoder> that's the only thing left
17:54 < martin> bye
17:54 < blindcoder> I will now compile the remaining packages and do a test-install
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19:07 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg amd-boot
19:07 < blindcoder> Error logs from build/amd-boot-1.7-snapshot-ia32-bootdisk-expert/root/var/adm/logs:
19:07 < blindcoder> 138 builds total, 138 completed fine, 0 with errors.
19:07 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7#
19:07 < blindcoder> YEAH!!!!
19:10 < esden> hae ?
19:10 < esden> how have you done it ?
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19:16 < fake> ahoi
19:16 * fake testing clusterbuild
19:16 < blindcoder> hi fake
19:16 < blindcoder> esden: switched gcc and glibc
19:16 < blindcoder> but now it telss me that it has no init...
19:17 < fake> error in lilo.conf
19:17 < blindcoder> fake: have you hhad it, too?
19:17 < fake>  /dev/disc symlinks not there, use /dev/ide/...
19:18 < blindcoder> hmm booting from the ROCK 1.7 boot-disc-target-cdrom
19:18 < blindcoder> what do I have to pass to ramdisk?
19:18 < fake> nothing?
19:19 < fake> oh... bootdisk.. oh...
19:19 < fake> ok...
19:19 < blindcoder> hm?
19:19 < fake> err, noidea.
19:19 < fake> the root is a ramdisk (as the name suggests)
19:19 < fake> so...
19:20 < blindcoder> so it safs that there's no init
19:20 < fake> init is a rock script, iirc
19:20 < fake> the one to mount the cdrom with the 2nd-stage fs to be decompressed into ram
19:20 < blindcoder> that shouldn't matter
19:21 < fake> you could loopback-mount the bootimage and have a look at it, can't ya?
19:21 < tcr> how could init be a shellscript?
19:21 < blindcoder> I've loopback mounted initrd.img and guess what?
19:21 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/mnt# ls -l sbin/
19:21 < blindcoder> total 0
19:21 < fake> make that /etc/initscript
19:22 < blindcoder> what etc?
19:22 < blindcoder> crazyhorse:/mnt# ls -l
19:22 < blindcoder> total 564
19:22 < blindcoder> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         1024 Nov 10 18:58 dev
19:22 < blindcoder> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        69405 Nov 10 18:58 gzip
19:22 < blindcoder> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       113268 Nov 10 18:58 insmod
19:22 < blindcoder> drwx------    2 root     root        12288 Nov 10 18:58 lost+found
19:22 < blindcoder> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         1024 Nov 10 18:58 net
19:22 < fake> blindcoder: there you have your problem.
19:22 < blindcoder> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         1024 Nov 10 18:58 proc
19:22 < blindcoder> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         1024 Nov 10 18:58 sbin
19:22 < blindcoder> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         1024 Nov 10 18:58 scsi
19:22 < blindcoder> -rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       369972 Nov 10 18:58 tar
19:22 < blindcoder> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         1024 Nov 10 18:58 tmp
19:22 < fake> yes yes yes.... *sogh*
19:22 < blindcoder> GAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
19:22 < blindcoder> *hrmpf* *grmpf*
19:23 < blindcoder> Why the hell isn't there anything?
19:23 < chrisime_> any vim dude around?
19:23 < tcr> chrisime_: depends on you question
19:23 < chrisime_> easy one
19:24 < chrisime_> vim indents in case you put a line on top of each file
19:24 < chrisime_> do you know how the line has to look
19:24 < chrisime_> it's like those // c++ id:...
19:24 < chrisime_> like that
19:25 < owl> re. (finally back)
19:25 < tcr>  /* vim:tabstop=8:expandtabs:shiftwidth=8 */
19:25 < chrisime_> cool
19:25 < chrisime_> thx
19:25 < tcr> in the first or the last line
19:25 < tcr> i prefer the last anyway
19:25 < chrisime_> yeah
19:26 < chrisime_> what do these : mean
19:26 < chrisime_> it should expandtabs to 8
19:26 < chrisime_> i normally have sts and expandtabs is perfect
19:27 < chrisime_> BTW, what is shiftwidth?
19:27 < chrisime_> ok
19:27 < chrisime_> never mind
19:27 < chrisime_> :h helps
19:28 < blindcoder> fake: any idea why it isn't there?
19:28 < fake> blindcoder: uhm, because of an... aeh... error? *g*
19:28 < tcr> sorry was away
19:29 < fake> blindcoder: no. i don't know why my bootdisk decided to work at all this time, i had severe problems at first...
19:29 < tcr> chrisime_: shiftwith is the same as tabstop, but it affects shifting operators (>>, <<)
19:29 < fake> blindcoder: but suddenly it decided to compile, and i didn't ask.
19:30 < chrisime_> tcr, you mean it indents them
19:30 < tcr> chrisime_: it's the number of spaces used to indent when you use >> or <<
19:30 < blindcoder> fake: fake I think I know why... target/bootdisk/build.sh assumes you have that _damned_ _dietlibc_ on your host system
19:31 < tcr> chrisime_: or ctrl-p in insert mode
19:31 < chrisime_> keyword compl?
19:31 < chrisime_> wow
19:31 < chrisime_> never used it
19:31 < chrisime_> ehat'S that
19:31 < chrisime_> what's
19:31 < tcr> chrisime_: ctrl-t sorry
19:32 < fake> blindcoder: ACK. that's right.
19:32 < chrisime_> tcr, never used that either
19:32 < blindcoder> BUT I DON'T HAVE IT nor do I want it there
19:32 < tcr> chrisime_: what??? you do not know about completition in vim ?!
19:32 < chrisime_> no
19:32 < fake> blindcoder: stop whining.
19:32 * chrisime_ ducks
19:33 < chrisime_> wow, that's cool!
19:33 < blindcoder> fake: no that's a design failure in ROCK if you ask me (I know you don't)
19:34 < tcr> chrisime_: indeed! ctrl-p and ctrl-n (previous, next) searches for possible completitions in the following places:
19:34 < tcr> 1. current file
19:34 < aszlig> 2. include files
19:34 < aszlig> re
19:34 < tcr> 2. all files in splitted windows
19:34 < tcr> 3: all files of the whole buffer
19:34 < aszlig> s/^./4/
19:34 < blindcoder> fake: can I safely do a Build-Pkg dietlibc without screwing my whole system?
19:35 < tcr> 5. (most powerfull) in current tags' files
19:35 < tcr> and 6. in included files
19:35 < aszlig> tcr: okay, 6th :)
19:35 < fake> blindcoder: you tell me
19:36 < tcr> chrisime_: and:
19:36 < blindcoder> fake: *grmpf* I'll phone esden
19:36 < tcr> if you put 'k' into 'complete' it additionally looks for a completition in the path of 'dictionary'
19:37 < tcr> :set dictionary=/usr/dict/words
19:37 < fake> blindcoer:
19:37 < fake> just tar xfvI ditelibc-bla.tar.bz2 from the downlod-dir and freakin' make it
19:37 < fake> and stop whining
19:38 < fake> [optional]
19:39 * blindcoder does as told and continues whining
19:39 < fake> blindcoder: there will be errors if you just make ; make install
19:39 < fake> ignore them
19:40 < fake> they are about not  being able to install the dynamic linker you don't want and need.
19:40 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Build-Pkg dietlibc
19:40 < fake> *sigh* no...
19:40 < blindcoder> okay okay
19:41 < fake> and don't forget to patch in base/dietlibc/*.patch
19:41 * fake having cigarette
19:41 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/dietlibc-0.21# make && make install
19:41 < blindcoder> better that way?
19:46 < blindcoder> still the same
19:46 < blindcoder> VFS: Mounted roon (ext2 filesystem)
19:46 < blindcoder> Mounted devfs on /dev
19:47 < owl> does someone know a _good_ tutorial, documentation, description etc. about subnetting, calculating the binary adresses, and so on...?
19:47 < blindcoder> Fpreeing unused kernel memory: 124k freed
19:47 < blindcoder> Kernel panic: No init foun.  Try passing init= option to the kernel
19:48 < tcr> owl: how do you mean
19:48 < blindcoder> owl: a pocket alculator that gan do binary
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19:49 < _NULL> *argh*
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19:50 < tcr> owl: how do you mean
19:52 < owl> tcr: urghs. if you have ip-address 192.159.200.1 e.g. and class C net, then you can change the subnet somehow... but i need the documentation or whatever _how_ this is done and calculated...
19:53 < fake> owl: hehe, didn't listen in class?
19:53 < aszlig> owl: you got it already :P
19:54 < blindcoder> HA!! STRIKE!! GOTCHA!
19:54 < fake> cisco.netacad.net ?
19:54 < blindcoder> on the initrd
19:54 < owl> fake: first - hi. second - aehm... maybe
19:54 < blindcoder> there's a file /linuxrc
19:54 < owl> aszlig: jaja
19:54 < blindcoder> and THAT one has to be /sbin/init
19:54 < owl> fake: cisco...? what is with cisco..? can i findsemeomthing there? or what? *confused today+
19:57 < blindcoder> erm... why isn't there agetty in the bootdisk-target?
19:57 < fake> owl: take the lessons?
19:57 < blindcoder> hasn't anyone _ever_ tried to use it?
19:58 < owl> fake: i dunno if it's there. we "learned" (should have learned) it at school... but /dev/misc/brain --> no such file or directory..
20:00 < fake> blindcoder: i have a perfectly working bootdisk.
20:01 < fake> owl: then how do you plan on learning it now?
20:02 < owl> fake: k.a. just _have_ to learn it...
20:02 < blindcoder> fake: then either you or I have changed or tweaked the scripts. And I knom I didn't
20:03 < blindcoder> fake: I get thousands of lines of "agetty not found"
20:09 * tcr eatin
20:18 < blindcoder> hmmm
20:20 * tcr back
20:21 < blindcoder> substituting `agetty` with `/sbin/agetty` works wonders
20:22 < blindcoder> *lol*
20:22 * tcr watching tv
20:22 < blindcoder> Set console k_a_yboard mapping
20:26 < fake> 21:26 2002-11-10:   --- current status ---
20:26 < fake> Build-Job (daemon mode)       running on jana with PID 11383
20:26 < fake> Build-Job (daemon mode)       running on jana with PID 9141
20:26 < fake> he he.
20:26 < blindcoder> hmm
20:26 < blindcoder> regarding the boot-disks... they are missing _a_ _lot_ :)
20:28 * blindcoder burning a cd
20:29 < blindcoder> hmm after rebooting and adding hdc=ide-scsi
20:30 < blindcoder> be left back
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20:31 < fake> 21:30 jana:         finished job '1-gcc3' (ERROR)
20:31 < fake> damn it..
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20:31 < tsa> tag
20:39 < fake> hi tsa!
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20:47 < blindcoder> rehi
20:50 < owl> hi tsa, blindcoder
20:52 < blindcoder> re owl
20:57 < chrisime_> tcr, your line doesn't work here
20:57 < tcr> hmm
20:58 < chrisime_> i got /* vim:tabstop=80:softtabstop=8:shiftwidth=8 */
20:58 < chrisime_>  now
20:58 < tcr> could I see it again? XD
20:58 < tcr> ah
20:58 < chrisime_>  /* unknown option
20:58 < blindcoder> wow! a whole terminal of tab :)
20:59 < chrisime_> blindcoder, i can't disable tabstop
20:59 < chrisime_> i tried
20:59 < chrisime_> it doesn't take tabstop=0
20:59 < chrisime_> so i do =80
20:59 < blindcoder> hmm... okay...
20:59 < tcr> erm
21:00 < tcr> you should never change tabstop
21:00 < chrisime_> haha
21:00 < chrisime_> i hate tabstops
21:00 < blindcoder> set them to 1?
21:00 < tcr> you should make you clear what tabstop and what softtabstop is
21:01 < chrisime_> I'm using sts
21:01 < chrisime_> vim doesn't like expandtabs in that line either
21:03 < chrisime_> tcr, solution?
21:03 < chrisime_> hint?
21:06 < tcr> the option is called expandtab
21:07 < chrisime_> mhm
21:07 < chrisime_> sec
21:07 < tcr> :h tabstop
21:07 < tcr> there several ways are listed how you could operate
21:08 < chrisime_>  // vim:tabstop=80:sts=8:shiftwidth=8
21:08 < chrisime_> maybe that helps
21:09 < tcr> no
21:09 < tcr>  /* vim:tabstop=8:sts=4:shiftwidth=4 */
21:09 < chrisime_> it doesn't like */ here
21:09 < tcr> i think that you want
21:09 < chrisime_> "xlibDraw.cc" 123L, 4015C
21:09 < chrisime_> Error detected while processing modelines:
21:09 < chrisime_> line  123:
21:09 < chrisime_> Unknown option: */
21:10 < tcr> oh
21:10 < chrisime_> mhm
21:10 < tcr> okay
21:11 < chrisime_> what?
21:11 < tcr>  /* vim: set tabstop=8 sts=4 shiftwidth=4: */
21:11 < chrisime_> ah
21:12 < chrisime_> works
21:12 < chrisime_>  vim: set et sts=8 shiftwidth=8:
21:13 < tcr> yes
21:14 < tcr> there are to ways for such modelines
21:14 < tcr> (:h modeline)
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21:53 < blindcoder> n8 everyone
21:53 < esden> n8 blindcoder 
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23:18 < c4y0> hello!!!!!!!!!!
23:18 < tcr> hi
23:18 < owl> moin c4y0
23:19 < c4y0> hey! i'm try to install a network card in my rock linux, but i not have idea!!!!!!!
23:19 < c4y0> can helpme please?
23:20 * owl now playing: megaherz - wer bist du
23:20 < tcr> c4y0: did you load the required module ?
23:20 < tcr> after that, just run a ifconfig <dev> <ip> up
23:22 < owl> gn8. cu
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23:25 * tcr gn8 all
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23:28 < c4y0> how to i can config the eth0 in rock linux?
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23:29 < c4y0> exist some application to config the net?
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