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--- Log opened Mon Nov 11 00:00:27 2002 --- Day changed Mon Nov 11 2002 00:09 -!- paperclip is now known as paperclip|mcedit 00:11 -!- paperclip|mcedit is now known as paperclip 00:40 -!- fooblah [~slackware@pD9546421.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:40 < fooblah> hello ;) 00:46 < chrisime_> hmpf 00:47 < chrisime_> fooblah, hast du ahnung von clock_gettime(...) ? 00:52 < fooblah> aehm 00:52 < fooblah> sry no 00:52 < fooblah> <<is drunken ;) 00:52 < fooblah> and c n00b ;) 01:03 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048F63.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8") 01:15 < esden> re hi all ... 01:15 * -> esden is tired 01:16 < esden> fooblah: drunken ... on sunday ??? 01:17 < tsa> hi esden 01:20 < esden> hi tsa 01:32 < esden> cool ... the solar power guy rulez *rofl* 01:33 < esden> rocklinux running on solar ;-) 01:33 < tsa> hehe, yepp 01:33 < tsa> irgendwie lustig das.. 01:34 < esden> rocklinux powered by sun ;-) 01:37 < tsa> still need to get sun powered by rocklinux, hm? ;) 01:41 < esden> yes ... that is our target ;-) 01:41 < tsa> https://www.eqi-clan.de/lego/lego-dope.html 01:42 < esden> ? 01:42 < tsa> just have a look.. 01:42 < esden> the url not existing 01:43 < esden> ahh now 01:43 < esden> ok 01:43 < tsa> hehe 01:46 < fooblah> *hicks* 01:47 < fooblah> i check rocklinux 1.7 - if i able to config - build it 01:47 < fooblah> if yes... i make a howto and a faq ;) 01:48 < fooblah> <<has nothing to do until february.. cause the limit of "zivis?" is full... 01:49 < fooblah> so i have free... 01:50 < fooblah> hmm... 01:50 < fooblah> gnapster suxx... 01:51 < fooblah> mldonkey is much better 01:51 < fooblah> u should add this package 01:51 < fooblah> @developers ;) 01:51 < tsa> hehe, ack. 01:52 < tsa> ..although i have to admit i've never tried mldonkey.. 01:53 < tsa> should have a look at ocaml.. 02:08 < fooblah> mldonkey is really good 02:09 < fooblah> if i compare "emule" and "mldonkey" ... mldonkey is the better choose 02:09 < tsa> yes, i know.. 02:13 < fooblah> rocklinux needs more complete iso's *think* 02:14 < fooblah> eg. optimized for athlon xp, tb etc. 02:14 < fooblah> i'm sure more people would try it 02:56 < esden> re 02:58 < esden> th: ocaml sucks reallly badly ... more then you can imagine ... it is the programakle brainfuck of current days ! 02:59 < esden> ok .. good night boys and girls 03:07 -!- x1bncwn [kryptic@md-wstmstr-cuda1-c2a-85-a.wmnsmd.adelphia.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:08 < x1bncwn> hello..what kind of package management does rock use? 03:09 < x1bncwn> also i kinda had a question about why it choose a mirror that had a 280ms ping time over a 180ms ping..when it was choosing a mirror during the installation..heh 03:16 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD95251FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:20 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Man gewöhnt sich dran!") 04:20 -!- jbalint [~chatzilla@dhcp065-024-224-136.insight.rr.com] has joined #rocklinux 04:32 -!- fooblah [~slackware@pD9546421.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:54 -!- maisenhe [~maisenhe@adsl-65-69-57-225.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 04:54 < maisenhe> re 05:04 -!- jbalint [~chatzilla@dhcp065-024-224-136.insight.rr.com] has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.1/20021023]") 05:09 < maisenhe> hallo ? 07:43 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p5080252D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:20 -!- paperclip [~joe@ip68-11-78-14.no.no.cox.net] has quit () 08:21 -!- paperclip [~joe@ip68-11-78-14.no.no.cox.net] has joined #rocklinux 08:52 -!- Freak [freak@pD9530E10.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:24 < blindcoder> morning 09:27 < Freak> hihi 09:28 < blindcoder> moin Freak 09:28 < blindcoder> how's it going? 09:28 < Freak> ts fine 09:28 < Freak> tanks. how boutchoo? 09:28 < blindcoder> furking around with 1.7, but don't have to work today :) 09:29 < Freak> yea me neither 09:29 < Freak> it's a good feeling to have the monday off :) 09:29 < blindcoder> And I so hoped I'd be the only one :) 09:29 < Freak> heh 09:30 < Freak> too bad 09:30 < blindcoder> yes, recovering from the weekend 09:30 < Freak> right. I worked the last two days. 09:31 < blindcoder> oh... why that? 09:32 < Freak> regular work in a hospital. 09:33 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p50801ADC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:35 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p50801ADC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:35 < blindcoder> damnit 09:36 < Freak> re 09:36 < blindcoder> re Freak 09:36 < blindcoder> again: why did you have to work yesterday+ 09:37 < Freak> regular work in a hospital. 09:37 < blindcoder> oh, I see 10:33 -!- blindcod1r [~blindcode@pD958F488.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:49 < rxr> re 10:57 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p50801ADC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:12 -!- chrisime_ is now known as chrisUNI 11:14 < fake> gutae morgae 11:17 < blindcod1r> moin fake 11:18 < blindcod1r> fake: cd / && tar xfvI usr/src/rock-src-1.7/build/default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-generic-expert/pkgs/glibc.tar.bz2 11:18 < blindcod1r> geht bislang noch einwandfrei :) 11:18 < blindcod1r> und endlich compiled der ganze scheiss 11:20 * blindcod1r now off to his garage 11:54 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc2-stoc3-4-cust193.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:32 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:47 < fake> club-mate.net ??? 12:47 < fake> *grr* 12:47 < th> yea 12:47 < th> ;> 12:47 < th> we did it ;) 12:48 < Ge0rG> hehe.... after I missed irssi.de registration only by some hours ;) 12:48 < fake> http -> redirect to club-mate.de ? 12:49 < fake> KGB 12:49 < fake> Kollektive Getränke Basis 12:49 < fake> Im Kampf gegen den Durst 12:49 < fake> *ROFL* 12:49 < th> Ge0rG: grummel. da war ja noch ne mail pending von dir... 12:52 < Ge0rG> fake: http redirect? 12:53 < x1bncwn> i got a question..during install i keep getting this error 12:53 < x1bncwn> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 265: /usr/bin/time: No such file or directory 12:54 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD9E0A4E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:56 -!- term_emu [~pm@p50818988.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 12:56 < fake> HUH?! 12:56 < term_emu> moin 12:56 < fake> my acpi works! weee... *jumparound* 13:36 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 13:36 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 13:52 -!- fooblah [~slackware@pD9EBB25B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:52 < fooblah> hello 13:52 < blindcoder> hi fooblah 13:56 -!- kaerF [freak@pD95308B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:58 < fooblah> i've got some problems by building bash/binutils/gcc3.2 - it says that (athlon-tbird) is a bad value? 14:00 < blindcoder> I've had similiar problems here 14:00 < fooblah> hmm... 14:00 < blindcoder> updating to glibc 2.3.1 and gcc 3.2 helps there 14:00 < fooblah> i try to build them manual 14:00 < fooblah> this is gcc3.2 :/ 14:01 < fooblah> hmm... 14:01 < blindcoder> but take care! Updating the glibc means recomiling severas programs 14:01 < fooblah> i know 14:01 < fooblah> i tried to update glibc and then my system didn't boot again... :/ 14:01 < blindcoder> I haven't tried athlon-tbird but k6-2 and pentium4 14:02 < blindcoder> that's why I don't intend to boot it untal I have a new 1.7 Image for it :) 14:02 < fooblah> *gg* 14:02 < fooblah> i trie to build a cc... maybe it will work 14:02 < blindcoder> okay 14:02 -!- Freak [freak@pD9530E10.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:06 < esden> hi all 14:06 < fooblah> esden: hi 14:06 < esden> hi fooblah 14:08 -!- kaerF [freak@pD95308B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 14:11 -!- Freak [freak@p508392DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:18 < blindcoder> hi esden 14:21 < fooblah> ./scripts/Build-Pkg builds usually with cc or gcc? 14:21 < blindcoder> depends what you selected in scripts/Config 14:24 < esden> sweet .... that is something I can use to switch to uClibc hopefully ;-) : https://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lwl1/?t=gr,lnxw12=LLP1 14:24 < fake> fooblah: cc-wrapper 14:24 < fake> esden: see through the comments.... *g* 14:26 < blindcoder> hmmm 3 concurrent builds and md5summing whole CDs at the same time kills performance :) 14:29 < fooblah> bye (eating) 14:29 -!- fooblah [~slackware@pD9EBB25B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 14:29 < esden> fake: ??? 14:31 < esden> fake: where are the comments ? o_O /me blind 14:31 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD904844F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #Rocklinux 14:34 -!- netrunner [~netrunner@p508024E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #rocklinux 14:40 < fake> esden: @slashdot 14:40 < esden> aha ... ok 14:41 < esden> fake: and you mean that there is something interesting ? 14:41 < fake> esden: about that article. but i think i am not on the usual treshhold, so nevermind ;) 14:41 < esden> ahh you answered ? 14:44 < esden> fake: what username do you use for slashdot ? 14:44 < esden> ahh there is it 14:45 < esden> hmm ... no reply ... :-/ 14:46 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 14:46 < Mike1> moin 14:48 < esden> hi Mike1 14:49 < Mike1> hi esdy 14:51 < blindcoder> moin Mike1 14:51 < Mike1> hi blindy 14:52 < blindcoder> blb 14:53 < x1bncwn> wget ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.19.tar.bz2 14:53 < x1bncwn> whoops 14:53 < Mike1> ping huebi 14:56 < esden> x1bncwn: shell I do /dcc send mykernel now ? 14:56 < Mike1> lol 15:03 < esden> who of you besides fake and me are using 1.7 already ? 15:03 < fake> clifford is 15:03 < fake> and rene 15:04 < Mike1> esden: my build is finished so i will too in a few minutes 15:05 < Mike1> hi fake btw 15:05 < fake> hi Mike1 15:07 < blindcoder> esden: I'm trying to do so 15:07 < blindcoder> but the generic-Target is not compiling 15:08 < blindcoder> I've made a glibc/gcc-Update on crazyhorse and am now compiling from scratch 15:08 < blindcoder> If ih does compile now I'll try with optimisation 15:08 < Mike1> having fun blindcoder? 15:08 < blindcoder> Mike1: not really 15:08 < Mike1> :P 15:09 < esden> ok ... 15:09 < Mike1> esden: why? 15:09 < esden> I consider kernel panics when using alsa ... 15:10 < esden> does anyone know the blinking codes of the keyboard of a kernel panic ? 15:10 < esden> my capslock diode is blinking after the system crash ... 15:10 < esden> does anyone know what it means ? 15:10 < blindcoder> esden: the codo knows it 15:10 < blindcoder> code :P 15:11 < esden> yes ... :P 15:11 < esden> but I thought someone knows it by hard so I can skip the code reading part .. 15:13 < th> re 15:13 < th> huebi: ping 15:13 < blindcoder> okay... binutils compiled... kernel compiled... 15:13 < blindcoder> anything I'm missing? 15:15 < esden> blindcoder: bootdisk ? 15:15 < blindcoder> nice... 15:15 < blindcoder> esden: on my _running_ system 15:15 < rolla> Mike 15:15 < esden> blindcoder: urgh ... 15:15 < blindcoder> == 15:07:05 =[2]=> Building base/binutils [2.13.90.0.10 1.7-snapshot]. 15:15 < esden> you are updating to 1.7 runtime ? 15:16 < blindcoder> sweet! without any packages failing it reached stage 2 15:16 < esden> respect ... 15:16 < esden> but binutils will fail here ... 15:16 < blindcoder> esden: no, just updated to glibc 2.3.1 on my running system 15:16 < esden> that is not a glibc error 15:16 < esden> binutils will fail in the secon stage ... 15:17 < blindcoder> hmm it compiled before 15:17 < esden> +d 15:17 < esden> strange ... ok ... can be 15:17 < blindcoder> we'll see 15:17 < esden> rofl : package/rene/blender/blender.desc 15:17 < blindcoder> I just check if anything needs to be recompiled, too, so that my system _can_ come back up mhen rebooting 15:18 -!- paperclip [~joe@ip68-11-78-14.no.no.cox.net] has quit ("rebooting bbif (hopefully)") 15:18 < esden> rene wants to maintain all rock packets ? 15:18 < blindcoder> most of them 15:18 < esden> he is not able to maintain the packets he already has ... 15:18 < blindcoder> well 15:18 < esden> most of them are broken blindcoder 15:19 < esden> all the enlightenment stuff is not compiling ... 15:19 < blindcoder> yes... 15:19 < esden> because of imlib2 ... 15:19 < blindcoder> btw: mhat package is libwrap in? 15:19 < esden> no idea 15:19 < esden> grep libwrap /var/adm/flist/* 15:20 < blindcoder> can you grep through your 1.7 flists? 15:20 < blindcoder> I have 1.5 running, esden... 15:20 < esden> ok ... moment I have to start my laptop 15:20 < blindcoder> and there the package is called sslwrap 15:20 < blindcoder> which doesn't exist is 1.7 15:20 < esden> so should I check or not ? 15:21 < esden> so you know where libwrap is ... 15:21 < esden> { 15:21 < esden> ? 15:21 < x1bncwn> its in tcp_wrappers 15:21 < esden> ok ... shutting down laptop 15:21 < blindcoder> x1bncwn: thanks 15:22 < esden> hmm ... I should go for lunch now 15:22 < blindcoder> esden: all the 1.5 stuff doesn't compile with glibc 2.3.1 so I need the 1.7 stuff 15:22 < esden> cu guys ... (lunch and reading the Lightweight Linux article) 15:23 < esden> blindcoder: ok 15:23 * -> esden off 15:23 < blindcoder> an guadn 15:23 * blindcoder off to the electronics-shop 15:27 -!- paperclip [~joe@ip68-11-78-14.no.no.cox.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:29 -!- chrisUNI_ [~chrisime@p50802E10.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:33 < x1bncwn> i keep getting this error 15:34 < x1bncwn> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 265: /usr/bin/time: No such file or directory 15:34 < x1bncwn> wtf is /usr/bin/time 15:34 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 15:35 -!- paperclip [~joe@ip68-11-78-14.no.no.cox.net] has quit () 15:43 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 15:43 < Mike1> re 15:43 < rolla> er 15:45 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:46 -!- chrisUNI [~chrisime@pD95904BD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:55 * Mike1 waiting for huebi to commit his last changes ... 15:57 < blindcoder> rehi 15:57 < blindcoder> esden: it's the "Automati documentation creation" that breaks binutils 16:01 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:10 -!- term_emu [~pm@p50818988.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:42 < Mike1> https://odin.informatica.co.cr/~mike/misc/report.txt 16:42 < Mike1> Commets, bug reports, suggestions are very welcome 16:45 < blindcoder> nice 16:45 < Mike1> :) 16:46 < Mike1> that will go to the Rolling ROCK 16:49 < x1bncwn> wtf is this thing downloading all of gnome and such when im trying to do a base installation 16:50 < blindcoder> sure, It's where it belongs :) 16:50 < blindcoder> x1bncwn: the domnloads are target specific 16:50 < blindcoder> if you don't want some packages, then deactivate them in the package selection 16:50 < x1bncwn> ok 16:51 < x1bncwn> but i dont rememeber telling to to choose all that 16:51 < x1bncwn> cant i *not* install all that? 16:51 < x1bncwn> and also i get an error on Build-Pkg something about /usr/bin/time which doesnt exist 16:51 < blindcoder> yes in the package selector 16:51 < blindcoder> you need to have `time` installed 16:51 < x1bncwn> well im actually installing from within another distro 16:52 < x1bncwn> i didnt see any option to select packages 16:52 < blindcoder> erm... ROCK 1.5 or 1.7? 16:52 < x1bncwn> 1.7 16:52 < blindcoder> it's in the `expert` functions 16:53 < x1bncwn> it only says 16:53 < x1bncwn> ,----< Package selection rules >----. 16:53 < x1bncwn> | 001: <new line> 16:53 < x1bncwn> `-----------------------------------' 16:53 < x1bncwn> and show the current package list 16:53 < blindcoder> yes, hit enter on 001: <new line> 16:53 < x1bncwn> ok 16:53 < x1bncwn> then enter package names? 16:54 < blindcoder> then enter something like `- gnome*` 16:54 < x1bncwn> some you can use wildcards? 16:54 < x1bncwn> so* 16:54 < blindcoder> yes 16:54 < x1bncwn> cool..thanks 16:54 < blindcoder> awk-style regex IIRC 16:54 < x1bncwn> about /usr/bin/time ..wtf do i get that? 16:54 < blindcoder> maht distro? 16:55 < x1bncwn> there isnt even a /usr/bin/time in gentoo 16:55 < x1bncwn> or mandrake..heh 16:55 < x1bncwn> its a shell builtin 16:55 < x1bncwn> 'time' 16:55 < blindcoder> hmm... wait a minute... 16:55 < x1bncwn> but its a diff time..i switched to just time..and it errores 16:57 < blindcoder> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/time/time-1.7.tar.gz 17:04 < fake> esden: you @bitz around 1915 ? 17:05 < esden> re hi all 17:05 < esden> fake: which train are you taking 17:05 < esden> ? 17:05 < fake> 17:53 17:05 < esden> I have to go to DHR get some things and then get to the train 17:05 < fake> so you will be in bitz later than me? 17:06 < esden> fake could you take a train later ? 17:06 < fake> esden: i could. 17:06 < esden> will you do it / 17:06 < esden> L\ 17:06 < esden> argh 17:06 < esden> ? 17:07 < esden> fake: ping 17:08 < blindcoder> *yawn* 17:08 < blindcoder> why oh why can't md5sum be faster >_< 17:09 < esden> blindcoder: get a faster box with better io performance ;-) 17:10 < esden> make a hardware acceleration for md5sum calculation ;-) 17:10 < blindcoder> it's the CD-Drive 17:10 < esden> lol 17:10 < blindcoder> well... it's the DVD-Drive with the CD-Rom inside 17:10 < esden> ok ... fake is not responding ... but I have to go ... 17:10 < blindcoder> bye 17:11 < esden> cu guys ... fake call me please 17:11 < Mike1> cu esden 17:14 < fake> esden: which train will you take? 17:14 < fake> douh. 17:16 -!- Freak [freak@p508392DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:23 < blindcoder> 2 down, 5 to go 17:23 < x1bncwn> any idea on /usr/bin/time ? 17:23 < blindcoder> 016:51 < blindcoder> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/time/time-1.7.tar.gz 17:24 < x1bncwn> oh...my bad 17:24 < blindcoder> no problem :) 17:24 < blindcoder> just install it to /usr/bin and it should work out just fine 17:25 < x1bncwn> haha i feel really stupid 17:25 < x1bncwn> emerge -s time 'revealed' something to me 17:25 < x1bncwn> heh :P 17:25 < x1bncwn> * sys-apps/time 17:25 < x1bncwn> 1.7 even 17:26 < x1bncwn> its still downloading all kinds of stuff though 17:26 < blindcoder> hmm 17:26 < x1bncwn> i did a install previously the same config..and it only download like 1/3 of what it is now 17:26 * fake off -> train. 17:26 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Download -required 17:27 < x1bncwn> it should already have everything -required 17:27 < x1bncwn> thats what i ran 17:27 < blindcoder> with -cfg <configname> it shouldn't happen 17:27 < x1bncwn> its downloading qt for christs sake 17:27 < x1bncwn> heh 17:27 < x1bncwn> i think its downloading everything 17:28 < blindcoder> hmm best would be to tell the rock-linux@rocklinux.org about it 17:32 < x1bncwn> ok so is there a way to do just a minimal install without excluding packages? 17:33 < x1bncwn> like what target should i be choosing 17:34 < x1bncwn> generic? 17:34 < Mike1> ... 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I ... 17:39 < x1bncwn> wtf is a .gem package? 17:40 < blindcoder> It will (is?) used by stone the package manager 17:40 < Mike1> rock linux pkg for Gem Mine pkg manager 17:40 < x1bncwn> oh..so its something new then? 17:40 < blindcoder> mine.... damnit... 17:40 < Mike1> blindcoder: :P 17:40 < Mike1> x1bncwn: yeah its a 1.7 feature 17:41 < blindcoder> I'm getting confused due to lack of coffee 17:41 < x1bncwn> what is it..like a rpm or something? 17:41 < x1bncwn> or is it a tar? 17:41 < Mike1> yet another package manager used only by one distro :) 17:41 < x1bncwn> no i mean the package format 17:42 < Mike1> x1bncwn: more likely to be tar 17:42 < x1bncwn> is it like some new algorithm or somehting? 17:42 < Mike1> rpm and rock linux dont get along at all 17:42 < x1bncwn> so i should choose that ove .tar.bz2? 17:42 < x1bncwn> over* 17:42 < x1bncwn> or it doesnt matter? 17:43 < Mike1> its up to you 17:43 < x1bncwn> the package tool can use both? 17:43 < Mike1> i think so (not totally sure) 17:44 * Mike1 is a 1.5 tree developer 17:44 < x1bncwn> is there like a doc somewhere on the new installer 17:44 < Mike1> blindcoder: ? 17:44 < x1bncwn> i dont get how im suppoe to disable packages 17:44 < x1bncwn> its got like ---- Use "O <pattern>" to disable packages 17:44 < x1bncwn> use O where? 17:45 < Mike1> blindcoder: !!! 17:45 < Mike1> x1bncwn: mom 17:45 * Mike1 troubleshooting a server 17:45 < blindcoder> hm? 17:46 < x1bncwn> whats the deal with the O and X and such to enable/disable packages 17:46 < Mike1> blindcoder: help me out answering rock 1.7 related questions :)) 17:46 < x1bncwn> where do you set that 17:46 < x1bncwn> ---- Use "O <pattern>" to disable packages 17:46 < x1bncwn> so like "O gnome*" ? 17:46 < blindcoder> O = don't install by default X = install by default and - = remove it from the package list 17:47 < blindcoder> with O it will still be built 17:47 < x1bncwn> so like "- gnome*" then 17:47 < blindcoder> yes 17:47 < x1bncwn> what about all the libs that gnome would install 17:48 < x1bncwn> and stuff...bonobo libxml etc,etc 17:48 < blindcoder> if the dependencies list a disabled package then it won't be built 17:48 < x1bncwn> or do i have to implicitly disabel each one? 17:48 < x1bncwn> cool 17:50 < x1bncwn> ok so theres glibc and glibc22 how can i install only one of them? 17:50 < x1bncwn> !!!!! Syntax error in rule set !!!!! 17:50 < blindcoder> you need to have a ' ' between [XO-] and the package name 17:51 < x1bncwn> there is 17:51 < x1bncwn> "- glibc" 17:51 < x1bncwn> wouldnt that just use glibc22? 17:51 < blindcoder> hmmm you can choose between glbc22 and 23 with another otion 17:52 < blindcoder> it will endisable the respective option 17:53 < blindcoder> hmm can you paste youl list? 17:58 -!- kasc [~shaman@p5090B419.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:01 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-zh-23-2-dialup-119.freesurf.ch] has joined #rocklinux 18:02 < x1bncwn> for some reason its not working 18:02 < x1bncwn> ive tried "- gnome*" "- gnome/*" and - gnome* and - gnome/* 18:03 < x1bncwn> oh n/m..it seems i can only put one per line 18:04 -!- kasc [~shaman@p50909F49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:21 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@p50803F0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:24 < blindcoder> sweet 18:24 < blindcoder> stage 5 without errors 18:27 -!- chrisUNI_ [~chrisime@p50802E10.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:43 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD952260C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:51 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D183.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:52 < tcr> moin all 18:52 < Mike1> moin tcr 18:54 < huebi> moin 18:55 < Mike1> huebi: !! 18:55 < Mike1> finally :) 18:55 < huebi> I've been to the SUN Benchmark Centre today. 18:55 < Mike1> cool 18:56 < Mike1> huebi: my build went straight to the end nothing broke 18:56 < huebi> I'll be there . 18:57 < tcr> what's up with 1.5.20? 18:57 < Mike1> tcr: its spected to be released ... today, huebi? 18:57 < huebi> I'll be there at the centre at friday morning again. I can test Rocklinux 1.5.20 for sparc 64 then on UltraSparcIII machines. 18:58 < Mike1> huebi: sounds like a lot of fun!! you will be able to build gnome2.1 stuff then 18:58 < Mike1> :) 18:58 < huebi> The release had to wait today because of my visit at SUN. 18:59 < huebi> 1.5.20 will be released till midnight. 18:59 < Mike1> midnight release... :) 19:00 < tcr> huebi: would nice if you could send a messages to the ml about that 19:00 < tcr> so that everyone is informed 19:00 < tcr> i believe there are many more wanting it 19:01 < Mike1> tcr: didnt know you were :) 19:01 < huebi> But I still have no working installation disks. That takes more time as expected. Also no Changes are documented in a way readable for all. 19:01 < huebi> I think I need time till tomorrow morning. 19:02 < tcr> well ... i don't need it today.. but please doesn't let us uninform 19:02 < tcr> doesn't->don't 19:02 < huebi> tcr: I keep you all informed. 19:02 < Mike1> mm... 19:02 -!- Eisofen [grunz@p508173D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:02 < huebi> on 19:02 < huebi> UltraSparcIII machines. 19:02 < huebi> on 19:02 < huebi> UltraSparcIII machines. 19:02 < huebi> oops 19:02 * Mike1 is away: meditating about 1.5 19:03 < Eisofen> 'lo 19:03 < tcr> m,oin 19:03 * huebi writing mail to the list. 19:03 < Eisofen> moin tcr 19:07 -!- [anders] [anders@62.3.122.161] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:11 < Eisofen> hmm.. 1.5.19-iso boots with Kernel-panic... 19:11 < huebi> Eisofen: What hardware? 19:11 < Eisofen> Athlon tbird, SCSI... 19:12 < Eisofen> panic came right after loading the scsi-layer 19:13 < tcr> what messages did you get 19:13 < Eisofen> ermh... 19:13 < Eisofen> *gruebl* 19:13 < huebi> Eisofen: in 1.5.20 I'll change that so that the modules have to be loaded manually 19:13 < huebi> Eisofen: what SCSI? 19:14 < Eisofen> adaptec 19:14 < Eisofen> one 29160 one 2944 19:14 < Eisofen> huebi: and please use the aic7xxxx_old ;-) 19:14 < huebi> try it with only one controller. 19:15 < huebi> Eisofen: why old 19:15 < Eisofen> since the new aic7-driver won't do here.... 19:15 -!- [anders] [anders@62.3.122.161] has joined #rocklinux 19:15 < huebi> Eisofen: you can choose the one _you_ want in the future. 19:15 < huebi> re [anders] 19:16 < Eisofen> huebi: huu? I Thought it's not possible to compile both? 19:16 < huebi> Eisofen: as modules it should be 19:16 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 19:16 < armijn> re 19:17 < armijn> sourceforge mirror seems to be down 19:17 < huebi> moin armijn 19:17 < armijn> for the webpage 19:17 < armijn> hi huebi 19:17 < armijn> is esden here? 19:17 < Eisofen> huebi: do you need the panic-message? 19:17 < tcr> moin armijn 19:17 < tcr> Eisofen: depends 19:17 < huebi> Eisofen: No, Please test it tomorrow with 1.5.20 again and let me here about it then. 19:18 < tcr> Eisofen: whas it just a kernel panic, or even a kernel oops? 19:18 < Eisofen> no, panic 19:18 < huebi> armijn: 18:55 < huebi> I've been to the SUN Benchmark Centre today. 19:18 < huebi> armijn: 18:57 < huebi> I'll be there at the centre at friday morning again. I can test Rocklinux 1.5.20 for sparc 64 then on 19:18 < huebi> UltraSparcIII machines. 19:18 < huebi> 1 19:18 < Eisofen> oops I'll get when I try to boot gentoo 1.2 ;-) 19:19 < armijn> huebi: nice 19:19 * Eisofen got a Sun U30... 19:19 < huebi> armijn: Mr. Frenk is very cooperative. 19:19 < armijn> Mr. Frenk... 19:20 * tcr taking shower 19:20 < armijn> huebi: does everything compile and boot for 1.5.20/ 19:20 < Eisofen> huebi: when will 1.5.20 up? 19:20 < huebi> compile yes, boot not yet 19:20 < armijn> huebi: so what's the problem? 19:21 < huebi> Eisofen: tomorrow. I post it here and on the mailing list. 19:21 < huebi> armijn: time. 19:21 < Eisofen> ok, thanks 19:21 < armijn> huebi: but why doesn't it boot? worng kernel config? 19:22 < huebi> armijn: no, I had no time today. SUN had a very much higher priority for me. 19:22 < armijn> but that doesn't really answer my question :) 19:23 < huebi> armijn: I have very fine kernels for IPC, SparcClassic, SparcStation 10, U5 and U30. 19:23 < armijn> ah, both sparc and sparc64? 19:23 < huebi> ACK 19:23 < armijn> and does that port work as well? 19:24 < Eisofen> *drool* 19:24 < armijn> no way, sparc was supposed to be my task :)) 19:24 < huebi> armijn: I did not built as boot CD. But what I've tested worked very, very good. 19:24 < armijn> well, I do have a working ROCK on sparc64, so... 19:25 < armijn> a few minor glitches though 19:25 < huebi> armijn: Ok, just send me the bootable sparc kernel. This is the only differece to the sparc64 port. 19:26 < armijn> heh, I haven't gotten around to actually do stuff on sparc ;-) 19:29 < armijn> huebi: so it's just the boot CD missing for sparc64? 19:33 < huebi> armijn: yes, only the boot cd is missing. 19:33 < armijn> ah, so no big deal then... 19:33 < huebi> I must leave now. Cu later tonight. 19:33 < huebi> armijn: yes, no big deal but it needs time I spend at SUN today 19:34 < huebi> cu 19:34 < huebi> ...wech 19:35 < armijn> ok 19:35 * armijn gone as well 19:35 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 19:42 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:56 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-zh-23-2-dialup-119.freesurf.ch] has quit () 20:00 < fake> huebi: the test center in langen? 20:00 < fake> Ruediger "The Gummibear" Frenk ? 20:01 < fake> douh. 20:06 * tcr re 20:09 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc3-stoc3-4-cust114.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:14 * snyke kicks fake 20:14 * blindcoder too 20:14 < snyke> fake: move your ass to bitz (esden) 20:15 < blindcoder> esden: ROCK 1.7 compiled straight through to stage 5 20:16 < blindcoder> == 19:23:26 =[5]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2 1.7-snapshot]. 20:16 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg amd 20:16 < blindcoder> Error logs from build/amd-1.7-snapshot-ia32-generic-expert/root/var/adm/logs: 20:16 < blindcoder> 559 builds total, 82 completed fine, 0 with errors. 20:16 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# 20:16 < snyke> (esden) ehm. ja. 20:17 < blindcoder> someone should add "Update to glibc 2.3.1 and gcc3 to succesfully compile ROCK" to the dokus 20:23 < blindcoder> esden: mbtw, please tell me what you think of https://scavenger.homeip.net/archive.php (the content) 20:25 < snyke> esden makes coffee 20:25 * Mike1 is back (gone 01:23:06) 20:26 < Mike1> re 20:27 < Mike1> huhu [anders] 20:27 < snyke> The archive is currently empty 20:27 < snyke> .oO( esden ) 20:27 < snyke> lain ist nicht da schaeme dich ;-) (esden) 20:28 < blindcoder> HAE??? 20:28 < blindcoder> wie "The archive is currently empty"??? 20:28 < blindcoder> ich bin noch am wiederaufbauen 20:28 < snyke> (esden :Q) 20:28 < snyke> he searched for "lain" and got "The arch..." 20:29 < blindcoder> hmm then it's a bug 20:29 < blindcoder> search for % 20:31 < snyke> (esden) sweet 20:31 < snyke> esden @ :-Q 20:31 < Mike1> snykesden? 20:33 < blindcoder> what a mix >_< 20:34 < Mike1> blindcoder: :) 20:34 -!- Freak [freak@p50838DCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:34 < Mike1> kaerf ih 20:35 < blindcoder> care free? 20:35 < Freak> 1ekiM ih 20:35 < Mike1> :) 20:35 < Mike1> blindcoder: ?? 20:36 < blindcoder> 20:23 < Mike1> kaerf ih (sounds like care free :) 20:36 < Freak> heh 20:37 < Mike1> blindcoder: lol :) 20:37 < Mike1> oki go back to source 20:37 * Mike1 porting gnome2.1 to the official 1.5 tree 20:41 < Mike1> ping huebi 20:44 -!- maisenhe [~maisenhe@adsl-65-69-57-225.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:44 < snyke> brb 20:51 -!- paperclip [~joe@ip68-11-78-14.no.no.cox.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:53 * blindcoder now off te bed 20:53 -!- maisenhe [~maisenhe@adsl-65-69-57-225.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:53 < maisenhe> re 20:53 < blindcoder> oyasumi nasai, mina-san! (Good night, everyone!) 20:53 < Mike1> yo maisenhe 20:53 < Mike1> oyasumi nasai blindy 20:58 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E11B11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:58 < tsa> moin. 20:58 < Mike1> hola tsa 20:59 < tsa> holy Mike1 20:59 < tsa> s,y,a 20:59 < Mike1> holy tsa 20:59 < Mike1> :P 20:59 < tsa> hehe 20:59 < tsa> <- too dumb to type 20:59 < Mike1> tape 20:59 < Mike1> :) 21:02 * tsa refetching complete 1.7 sources. 21:02 < tsa> *sigh* more than half of rene's packages seem to have broken download locations.. 21:03 -!- maisenhe [~maisenhe@adsl-65-69-57-225.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit ("leaving") 21:12 -!- _NULL [~mail-spam@B537d.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 21:13 < _NULL> seid gegruesst/hi 21:13 < tsa> hi owlita 21:13 < tsa> *hug* 21:13 < _NULL> tsa: hi. nicht schon wieder!!! 21:15 < Mike1> 1... 21:15 < Mike1> 2... 21:15 < Mike1> 3... 21:15 < _NULL> hi Mike1 21:15 < _NULL> stop! 21:15 * Mike1 hugs owlita 21:15 < Mike1> hi owlita 21:15 < _NULL> nonono 21:15 < Mike1> SO GLAD TO SEE U ! 21:15 < _NULL> thx. the same to you. 21:17 < esden> re hi all 21:17 < Mike1> re esden 21:17 < tsa> _NULL: prefieres un beso? 21:17 < tsa> hi esden 21:17 -!- [anders]_ [anders@62.3.122.161] has joined #rocklinux 21:18 < tsa> (de Mike1, por supuesto) 21:18 < _NULL> hi esden 21:18 < Mike1> huhu [anders]_ 21:18 < Mike1> wtf? 21:18 < _NULL> tsa: not again! 21:18 < tsa> _NULL: por que? 21:18 < Mike1> tsa come on dude just go and do it 21:18 < Mike1> i know you want it 21:18 < _NULL> tsa: no hable espanol 21:18 < _NULL> s/hable/hablo 21:19 < Mike1> tsa hehe creo que ya ahora si me dieron ganas de hablar espanol 21:20 < Mike1> tsa que estas experando :) 21:20 < Mike1> esperando* 21:26 < tsa> nada....solo bromeando con _NULL .. 21:27 < _NULL> tsa: huh? 21:27 < Mike1> tsa: hehe ni si quiera sabe si esta mos bromeando o hablando cosas malas 21:28 < Mike1> eres malo con _NULL sabes? hehe 21:28 < tsa> hehehe 21:29 < _NULL> Mike1, tsa: *lynch* 21:29 -!- [anders] [anders@62.3.122.161] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:29 < tsa> what for? just because you don't understand what we're talking about? 21:33 < tsa> _NULL: enojada? 21:34 < Mike1> tsa: como siempre 21:34 < tsa> si, probablemente.. 21:34 < Mike1> dale un besito para que se le quito lo enojada 21:34 < Mike1> :P 21:34 < tsa> nunca! jamas! 21:35 < Mike1> nunca digas nunca :P 21:35 < tsa> es tu novia, no es la mija.. 21:35 < Mike1> como que mi novia? 21:35 < Mike1> estas loco 21:35 < tsa> ack ;) 21:36 < tsa> _NULL: still alive? 21:36 < Mike1> tsa: https://odin.informatica.co.cr/~mike/personal/pics/we.png 21:36 * Mike1 pokes owlita with a stick 21:37 < Mike1> esa si es mi novia 21:37 < Mike1> :P 21:37 < tsa> hehe 21:37 < tsa> cuantos anos tiene tu novia? 21:37 < Mike1> 21 21:37 < Mike1> :P 21:38 < tsa> joven.. 21:38 < tsa> muy joven.. 21:38 < Mike1> atras podras ver mi jetsky :) 21:38 < _NULL> huh?? 21:38 < _NULL> tsa: nope. almost dead. 21:38 < Mike1> tsa yo tambien tengo 21 que esperabas ? 21:38 -!- _NULL is now known as zombie 21:38 < Mike1> zombie: are you a blood donator? 21:39 < tsa> zombie: saludos al diablo.. 21:39 < Mike1> tsa: tu tienes otra novia ademas de owl? 21:39 < zombie> huh? 21:39 < Mike1> tsa zombie es la amante del diablo 21:39 < zombie> i'm just a almost-dead owl/_NULL 21:39 < Mike1> :PP 21:39 < zombie> zombie != diablo 21:40 < tsa> Mike1: no y no. 21:40 < tsa> Mike1: no es mi novia. 21:40 < Mike1> zombie: knows what diablo is? 21:40 < tsa> tengo una, pero no es owl. 21:40 < Mike1> tsa hehe 21:40 < zombie> zombie: a devil...? 21:40 < Mike1> pero tienes novia? 21:40 < tsa> si 21:40 < Mike1> zombie: devil = weak in spanish 21:40 < Mike1> tsa: tienes fotos? 21:40 < Mike1> :) 21:41 < zombie> Mike1: urhgs. 21:41 < Mike1> zombie: eres devil? 21:41 < zombie> Mike1: ??? 21:41 < zombie> tsa = devil...? yes 21:42 < zombie> s/=/== 21:42 < Mike1> zombie: ¿¿¿ 21:42 < zombie> ??? 21:42 < Mike1> ¿¿¿ 21:42 < zombie> omg 21:43 < Mike1> tsa: en cuanto tiempo crees que reviente de enojo (otra vez)? 21:46 < tsa> hm...diez anos? 21:46 < tsa> ;) 21:46 < Mike1> diez minutos? 21:46 < Mike1> :P 21:47 < tsa> hm.. 21:47 < tsa> vamos a ver.. 21:47 < Mike1> owl te gusta comer tortillas de maiz? 21:48 < Mike1> tsa: hablamos incoherencias? 21:48 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D183.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 21:49 -!- fooblah [~slackware@pD9EBB25B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:49 < fooblah> hello 21:49 < tsa> Mike1: hm? 21:49 < Mike1> hi fooblah 21:49 < Mike1> tsa: nevermind 21:49 * Mike1 on the phone 21:49 < tsa> sigh..seems i'm getting old ;) 21:49 < Mike1> :P 21:50 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813DDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:50 < zombie> tsa: you _ARE_ old... 21:50 < zombie> hi fooblah 21:51 < Mike1> ohhh tsa that must hurt comming from a zombie 21:51 < zombie> Mike1: *g* nope. just the evil master of cynism ;P 21:52 < Mike1> oh 21:52 < Mike1> Master zombie>? 21:52 < zombie> master yoda ;P 21:52 < Mike1> "Wonderfull the mind of the child is" 21:53 < zombie> nope. i'm jsut tired and stressed and annoyed by many things... 21:54 * fooblah is listening to Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody ;) 21:54 * zombie is listening to AMD K6-II && intel pentium 1 cooler... 21:54 < tsa> zombie: which are? 21:55 < zombie> tsa: my relatives (especially my cousins), the fscking "deutsche bahn", moving (the office) and so on... and i'm damned tired but can't sleep 21:55 < tsa> hm.. 21:56 * Mike1 listens to 2, 4 amd athlon 1.5 mp machines next to him 21:56 < zombie> Mike1: send some of those machines to me! ;) 21:57 < esden> Mike1: send some of them here too ;-) 21:57 < zombie> esden: nope, you are male, you don't get one ;P 21:57 < Mike1> well ur a zombie so neither you will get one :P 21:58 < zombie> ;PPP 21:58 < Mike1> but hey tsa is my a good friend 21:58 < Mike1> so he might have a chance is he's got a pretty sister or friend 21:58 < Mike1> *ggg* 21:58 < zombie> uh. you and tsa have a relationship... 21:59 < zombie> tstststs... 21:59 < esden> owl can you stop changing your nicks ? !!! 21:59 < zombie> esden: nope. why should i? 21:59 < esden> that is starting to go on my nerves >_< 21:59 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813DDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 22:00 < zombie> esden: your problem. not mine. 22:00 * Mike1 feel esden's anger 22:00 < Mike1> the zombie will be destoyed 22:00 < esden> zombie: it can become your problem too ... 22:01 < zombie> esden: if you're frustrated you should leave the house, go to the city anf have look for girls who wanna fsck with you or things like that. _but stop offending/annoying me_!!! 22:03 < Mike1> zombie: whats ur problem with esden? 22:03 < zombie> Mike1: better you should ask esden what's his problem with me 22:03 < Mike1> if you got problems with esden then guess what you got problems with me too 22:04 < Mike1> zombie: simple you should stick a single nick name, it becomes a pain to have someone talking to you with a diferent nickname all the time, without mentioning the god damn flood in the channel with just nick switch advices 22:06 < Mike1> </flame war> 22:07 < zombie> Mike1, esden: "Ge0rG is still looking for that perfect nick after 119 changes thalerim (73)" << what about these people? 22:07 < zombie> i have just _3_ nicks! 22:08 < Mike1> owl you change nicks at least once every hour 22:08 < Mike1> thats a lot different 22:08 < zombie> oh great 22:08 < zombie> and bye 22:08 -!- zombie [~mail-spam@B537d.pppool.de] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:09 < Mike1> damn no you cant tell her anything 22:09 < Mike1> s/no/now* 22:09 < fooblah> hmm... 22:10 < fooblah> girls... ;) 22:10 < Mike1> fooblah: yeah 22:13 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E499A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:28 < esden> rofl owl rulez ! ;-) 22:29 < Mike1> hehe of course 22:29 < tsa> y? 22:29 < tcr> tsa: the patches sent to list, are these for 1.5 or 1.7? 22:30 < tcr> or both :? 22:30 < tsa> 1.7 22:30 < Mike1> tsa nice patch flood btw :) 22:30 < tsa> hehe 22:30 < tcr> well, could you point them to huebi? 22:30 < Mike1> tcr: ? 22:30 < tsa> huebi reads the list, doesn't he? 22:31 < Mike1> tcr: 1.5 when a patch if for 15 it is specified on the subject else it is taken as it is for 1.7 22:32 < tcr> oks 22:32 < Mike1> tcr: no worries i take care of availability of 1.5 ;) 22:32 < tcr> i hope they will go in 1.5.20 22:32 < tcr> thats the whole point for me 22:32 < Mike1> tcr: we will see 22:33 < Mike1> tcr: 1.5.20 release is only missing a few fixes for install disks from huebi 22:33 < Mike1> tcr: all packages have the right download url and have been tested to build straight - no problems 22:33 < tcr> well maybe some of them are already in 1.5 22:34 * tsa sending next patch.. 22:34 < Mike1> so i will not update any more packages untill 1.520 is released 22:34 < tcr> it pretty sucks that there isn't any communication between 1.5 and 1.7 22:34 < Mike1> which is about a few hours 22:34 < tcr> seems to be two completely different projects from time to time! 22:34 < Mike1> tcr: 1.7 and 1.5 are totally different 22:34 < tcr> that's not the point 22:35 < tcr> in issues like e.g. pkg updating it should be one base 22:35 < tcr> s,be,exist 22:35 < tcr> on that both trees relies! 22:37 * tcr brb 22:37 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E499A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 22:38 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508130D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:38 < tcr> lilo and e2fsprogs should be up to date in 1.5 22:39 < Mike1> tcr: will check it out 22:40 < tcr> tsa: i pointed some outdated pkgs to huebi some days ago 22:40 < tcr> tsa: please verify if the following are outdated in 1.7 too: 22:40 < tcr> sed 4.x 22:40 < tcr> procps 3.x 22:40 < Mike1> tcr: send me a list of the packages and i will update them 22:40 < tcr> these are the important ones! 22:40 < tcr> 'cause they changed the branch-version-number 22:41 < tcr> sed 4.0 contains merges with super-sed, and it rulez that's why :D 22:41 < tcr> and procps 3.x rulez anyway! 22:41 < tcr> Mike1: in 1.5 they are updated 22:41 < Mike1> tcr: ok 22:41 < tsa> tcr: just sent a patch for sed 22:42 < Mike1> tcr: you could also provide us patches :) 22:42 < tcr> i don't use 1.7 22:42 < Mike1> tcr: for 1.5 22:43 < tcr> i pointed them to huebi in order to let them get in 1.5.20 -- so that he will verify a prope building of them 22:43 < tsa> fsck. 22:43 < tsa> login incorrect for metalab.unc.edu 22:43 < Mike1> tcr: already did :) 22:43 < tcr> but.. well 22:44 < tcr> I also suggest huebi to append a list of all changed pkgs 22:44 < tcr> in his release mail 22:44 -!- fooblah is now known as fooblah|away 22:44 < tcr> so the 1.7 people will get the chance to see what pkg might be outdated 22:45 < Mike1> tcr: that would be too time consuming everything is on the changelog 22:45 < Mike1> and i they wanna see the package versions they can fetch cvs run Puzzle and read scripts/packages 22:46 < tsa> procps patch done, too. 22:46 < tcr> every release mail should contain such a list 22:46 < tcr> the cvs changelogs aren't very good to read 22:47 < tcr> it's better to have one table: old -> new 22:47 < Mike1> old new .... 22:48 < Mike1> that would require me or huebi to read changelog and do it manually 22:48 < Mike1> ah well i guess i will have to do it, thought 1.7 developers dont really care about whats going with 1.5 22:48 < tsa> ok, i guess 15 patches (+1 sent directly to cliff) will be enough for today of clifford will possibly kill me.. 22:48 < tcr> he said it's a good idea, and he will do it 22:48 < tsa> s,of,or, 22:48 < tcr> Mike1: but /me cares 22:49 < Mike1> tsa: nah just sent him 15 more :) 22:49 < tsa> hm...did anyone talk to rxr in the last days? 22:49 < Mike1> tcr: ok if he agreed it will be that way 22:50 < Mike1> tcr: and btw thanks a lot for caring 22:50 < Mike1> it really means a lot to us 22:50 < tsa> i really wonder what's up with him - most of his packages are outdated or have broken download urls... 22:50 < Mike1> THANKS :) 22:50 < tcr> Mike1: the 1.5 tree should release a new release monthly .. this release mail should contain - besides urls/commandos to get/update - a list of new features or changed things, and also a list of updated pkgs 22:50 < tsa> strange.. 22:50 < Mike1> tsa: thats because other sent him 16 packages a day and keep him to busy to update his own 22:50 < tcr> that would be a profession and very apprecipate way 22:50 < Mike1> *ggg* 22:51 < tsa> Mike1: i did not send any patches for rene's stuff.. 22:51 < Mike1> tcr: you are right, nice suggestions 22:51 < tsa> Mike1: just base, ia32 and my own stuff.. 22:51 < Mike1> tsa: i know 22:51 < Mike1> btw whos more out of date rene or cliff? 22:51 < tsa> rene. 22:52 < Mike1> hehe 22:53 < tsa> jsut a quick example - evolution 1.0.8 was released months ago, the new 1.2 tree introduced yesterday - rene still has 1.0.7 in his packages.. *sigh* 22:53 < Mike1> mm.... 22:53 < tcr> he seems very busy currently 22:53 < tcr> that means with other things 22:54 < Mike1> i have not talk / hear from him in a lot of time 22:54 < tsa> tcr: which means women, in most cases... 23:00 < tsa> perhaps we should post some wild romours to the mailing list.. 23:00 < tsa> s,o,u, 23:01 < tsa> hm...what do you think about "rene is pregnant"? ;-))) 23:04 < Mike1> ROTL 23:04 < tsa> *G* 23:04 < tsa> eeehrm... 23:04 < tsa> WTF? 23:04 < tsa> we still don't have xfree 4.2.1 in 1.7? 23:04 < tcr> lol++++++ 23:05 < tcr> in 1.5? 23:05 < tsa> tcr: don't know. 23:05 < tcr> well.. i don't care.. console rulezS 23:05 < tsa> at least definitely not in 1.7 23:05 < tsa> hehe 23:05 < tsa> i'll send rene a mail. 23:05 < tsa> off-list. 23:06 < tcr> "Ey, bist du schwanger oder was?" 23:06 < tsa> we planned pre2.0 stuff for this year, but > 50% of all packages seem to be broken...*sigh* 23:06 < tsa> lol. 23:06 * paperclip is away: sniffing crack 23:07 < tsa> cracking sniff? 23:08 < tsa> curl: (22) The requested file was not found 23:08 < tsa> NARF! 23:08 < tsa> always the same thing. 23:10 < paperclip> don't you guys mirror packages on ibiblio? 23:11 < tsa> nope 23:11 < paperclip> hmm gentoo does.. at first i thought it was a waste.. 23:12 < fooblah|away> best band of world: Allman Brothers Band (song: whipping post) ;) 23:12 < tsa> well, we have several mirrors, but that doesn't help if the master site doesn't have the software anymore because it's just outdated.. 23:13 * tsa throws en empty bottle at rxr - "go, fix packages!" .. 23:20 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-200-5.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:21 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508130D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 23:22 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508128A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:23 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD904844F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8") 23:24 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-201-107.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:25 < esden> cool 1.7 rulez !!! 23:26 < tsa> ? 23:27 * -> esden has updated nearly all his machines to 1.7 ... and it seems to work nearly perfectly 23:27 < esden> besides some shortcommings in stone ... and some other minor problems 23:27 < esden> like the missing pcmcia startup script 23:28 < tcr> shortcommings? 23:28 < tcr> "zu kurz kommen" ? 23:28 < esden> yes ... it is in many places not working properly like detection of the root partition for lilo/grub 23:28 < tcr> let me see 23:29 < esden> shortcommings = vernachlaessigungen/faehlende features 23:30 < esden> also selection and deselection of whole packet categorys 23:30 < tcr> hm 23:30 < tcr> dunno if clifford applied my patch for using rootfs 23:30 < tcr> s,for,when, 23:31 < tcr> the detection of the root device should work unless you're using rootfs 23:32 < tcr> modutils were updated in 1.5 23:32 < esden> ? o_O 23:32 < tcr> regarding to tsa 23:33 < esden> tcr: you are thalerim ? sorry for this question in advance. 23:33 < tsa> hehe 23:33 < tcr> yes 23:34 < esden> hehe ... ahh good ... because thalerim disappeared suddenly and you came here ;-) 23:34 < tsa> lol. 23:35 < tcr> naturally 23:35 < esden> yes ... ;-) 23:38 * tcr gn8 all 23:38 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p508128A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 23:39 -!- Freak [freak@p50838DCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 23:44 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 23:48 < snyke> hm 23:52 < esden> hi snyke 23:52 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc3-stoc3-4-cust114.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:54 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc3-stoc3-4-cust114.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux --- Log closed Tue Nov 12 00:00:45 2002