--- Log opened Mon Nov 11 00:00:27 2002
--- Day changed Mon Nov 11 2002
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00:40 < fooblah> hello ;)
00:46 < chrisime_> hmpf
00:47 < chrisime_> fooblah, hast du ahnung von clock_gettime(...) ?
00:52 < fooblah> aehm
00:52 < fooblah> sry no
00:52 < fooblah> <<is drunken ;)
00:52 < fooblah> and c n00b ;)
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01:15 < esden> re hi all ...
01:15 * -> esden is tired
01:16 < esden> fooblah: drunken ... on sunday ???
01:17 < tsa> hi esden
01:20 < esden> hi tsa 
01:32 < esden> cool ... the solar power guy rulez *rofl*
01:33 < esden> rocklinux running on solar ;-)
01:33 < tsa> hehe, yepp
01:33 < tsa> irgendwie lustig das..
01:34 < esden> rocklinux powered by sun ;-)
01:37 < tsa> still need to get sun powered by rocklinux, hm? ;)
01:41 < esden> yes ... that is our target ;-)
01:41 < tsa> http://www.eqi-clan.de/lego/lego-dope.html
01:42 < esden> ?
01:42 < tsa> just have a look..
01:42 < esden> the url not existing
01:43 < esden> ahh now
01:43 < esden> ok 
01:43 < tsa> hehe
01:46 < fooblah> *hicks*
01:47 < fooblah> i check rocklinux 1.7 - if i able to config - build it
01:47 < fooblah> if yes... i make a howto and a faq ;)
01:48 < fooblah> <<has nothing to do until february.. cause the limit of "zivis?" is full...
01:49 < fooblah> so i have free...
01:50 < fooblah> hmm...
01:50 < fooblah> gnapster suxx...
01:51 < fooblah> mldonkey is much better
01:51 < fooblah> u should add this package
01:51 < fooblah> @developers ;)
01:51 < tsa> hehe, ack.
01:52 < tsa> ..although i have to admit i've never tried mldonkey..
01:53 < tsa> should have a look at ocaml..
02:08 < fooblah> mldonkey is really good
02:09 < fooblah> if i compare "emule" and "mldonkey" ... mldonkey is the better choose
02:09 < tsa> yes, i know..
02:13 < fooblah> rocklinux needs more complete iso's *think*
02:14 < fooblah> eg. optimized for athlon xp, tb etc.
02:14 < fooblah> i'm sure more people would try it
02:56 < esden> re
02:58 < esden> th: ocaml sucks reallly badly ... more then you can imagine ... it is the programakle brainfuck of current days !
02:59 < esden> ok .. good night boys and girls
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03:08 < x1bncwn> hello..what kind of package management does rock use?
03:09 < x1bncwn> also i kinda had a question about why it choose a mirror that had a 280ms ping time over a 180ms ping..when it was choosing a mirror during the installation..heh
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04:54 < maisenhe> re
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05:09 < maisenhe> hallo ?
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09:24 < blindcoder> morning
09:27 < Freak> hihi
09:28 < blindcoder> moin Freak
09:28 < blindcoder> how's it going?
09:28 < Freak> ts fine
09:28 < Freak> tanks. how boutchoo?
09:28 < blindcoder> furking around with 1.7, but don't have to work today :)
09:29 < Freak> yea me neither
09:29 < Freak> it's a good feeling to have the monday off :)
09:29 < blindcoder> And I so hoped I'd be the only one :)
09:29 < Freak> heh
09:30 < Freak> too bad
09:30 < blindcoder> yes, recovering from the weekend
09:30 < Freak> right. I worked the last two days.
09:31 < blindcoder> oh... why that?
09:32 < Freak> regular work in a hospital.
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09:35 < blindcoder> damnit
09:36 < Freak> re
09:36 < blindcoder> re Freak
09:36 < blindcoder> again: why did you have to work yesterday+
09:37 < Freak> regular work in a hospital.
09:37 < blindcoder> oh, I see
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10:49 < rxr> re
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11:14 < fake> gutae morgae
11:17 < blindcod1r> moin fake
11:18 < blindcod1r> fake: cd / && tar xfvI usr/src/rock-src-1.7/build/default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-generic-expert/pkgs/glibc.tar.bz2
11:18 < blindcod1r> geht bislang noch einwandfrei :)
11:18 < blindcod1r> und endlich compiled der ganze scheiss
11:20 * blindcod1r now  off to his garage
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12:47 < fake> club-mate.net ???
12:47 < fake> *grr*
12:47 < th> yea
12:47 < th> ;>
12:47 < th> we did it ;)
12:48 < Ge0rG> hehe.... after I missed irssi.de registration only by some hours ;)
12:48 < fake> http -> redirect to club-mate.de ?
12:49 < fake> KGB
12:49 < fake> Kollektive Getränke Basis
12:49 < fake> Im Kampf gegen den Durst
12:49 < fake> *ROFL*
12:49 < th> Ge0rG: grummel. da war ja noch ne mail pending von dir...
12:52 < Ge0rG> fake: http redirect?
12:53 < x1bncwn> i got a question..during install i keep getting this error
12:53 < x1bncwn> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 265: /usr/bin/time: No such file or directory
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12:56 < fake> HUH?!
12:56 < term_emu> moin
12:56 < fake> my acpi works! weee... *jumparound*
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13:36 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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13:52 < fooblah> hello
13:52 < blindcoder> hi fooblah
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13:58 < fooblah> i've got some problems by building bash/binutils/gcc3.2 - it says that (athlon-tbird) is a bad value?
14:00 < blindcoder> I've had similiar problems here
14:00 < fooblah> hmm...
14:00 < blindcoder> updating to glibc 2.3.1 and gcc 3.2 helps there
14:00 < fooblah> i try to build them manual
14:00 < fooblah> this is gcc3.2 :/
14:01 < fooblah> hmm...
14:01 < blindcoder> but take care! Updating the glibc means recomiling severas programs
14:01 < fooblah> i know
14:01 < fooblah> i tried to update glibc and then my system didn't boot again... :/
14:01 < blindcoder> I haven't  tried athlon-tbird but k6-2 and pentium4
14:02 < blindcoder> that's why I don't intend to boot it untal I have a new 1.7 Image for it :)
14:02 < fooblah> *gg*
14:02 < fooblah> i trie to build a cc... maybe it will work
14:02 < blindcoder> okay
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14:06 < esden> hi all
14:06 < fooblah> esden: hi
14:06 < esden> hi fooblah 
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14:18 < blindcoder> hi  esden
14:21 < fooblah> ./scripts/Build-Pkg builds usually with cc or gcc?
14:21 < blindcoder> depends what you selected in scripts/Config
14:24 < esden> sweet .... that is something I can use to switch to uClibc hopefully ;-) : http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lwl1/?t=gr,lnxw12=LLP1
14:24 < fake> fooblah: cc-wrapper
14:24 < fake> esden: see through the comments.... *g*
14:26 < blindcoder> hmmm 3 concurrent builds and md5summing whole CDs at the same time kills performance :)
14:29 < fooblah> bye (eating)
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14:29 < esden> fake: ???
14:31 < esden> fake: where are the comments ? o_O /me blind
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14:40 < fake> esden: @slashdot
14:40 < esden> aha ... ok
14:41 < esden> fake: and you mean that there is something interesting ?
14:41 < fake> esden: about that article. but i think i am not on the usual treshhold, so nevermind ;)
14:41 < esden> ahh you answered ?
14:44 < esden> fake: what username do you use for slashdot ?
14:44 < esden> ahh there is it
14:45 < esden> hmm ... no reply ... :-/
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14:46 < Mike1> moin
14:48 < esden> hi Mike1 
14:49 < Mike1> hi esdy
14:51 < blindcoder> moin Mike1
14:51 < Mike1> hi blindy
14:52 < blindcoder> blb
14:53 < x1bncwn> wget ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.19.tar.bz2
14:53 < x1bncwn> whoops
14:53 < Mike1> ping huebi
14:56 < esden> x1bncwn: shell I do /dcc send mykernel now ?
14:56 < Mike1> lol
15:03 < esden> who of you besides fake and me are using 1.7 already ?
15:03 < fake> clifford is
15:03 < fake> and rene
15:04 < Mike1> esden: my build is finished so i will too in a few minutes
15:05 < Mike1> hi fake btw
15:05 < fake> hi Mike1
15:07 < blindcoder> esden: I'm trying to do so
15:07 < blindcoder> but the generic-Target is not compiling
15:08 < blindcoder> I've made a glibc/gcc-Update on crazyhorse and am now compiling from scratch
15:08 < blindcoder> If ih does compile now I'll try with optimisation
15:08 < Mike1> having fun blindcoder?
15:08 < blindcoder> Mike1: not really
15:08 < Mike1> :P
15:09 < esden> ok ... 
15:09 < Mike1> esden: why?
15:09 < esden> I consider kernel panics when using alsa ...
15:10 < esden> does anyone know the blinking codes of the keyboard of a kernel panic ?
15:10 < esden> my capslock diode is blinking after the system crash ...
15:10 < esden> does anyone know what it means ?
15:10 < blindcoder> esden: the codo knows it
15:10 < blindcoder> code :P
15:11 < esden> yes ... :P
15:11 < esden> but I thought someone knows it by hard so I can skip the code reading part ..
15:13 < th> re
15:13 < th> huebi: ping
15:13 < blindcoder> okay... binutils compiled... kernel compiled...
15:13 < blindcoder> anything I'm missing?
15:15 < esden> blindcoder: bootdisk ?
15:15 < blindcoder> nice...
15:15 < blindcoder> esden: on my _running_  system
15:15 < rolla> Mike
15:15 < esden> blindcoder: urgh ...
15:15 < blindcoder> == 15:07:05 =[2]=> Building base/binutils [2.13.90.0.10 1.7-snapshot].
15:15 < esden> you are updating to 1.7 runtime ?
15:16 < blindcoder> sweet! without any packages failing it reached stage 2
15:16 < esden> respect ...
15:16 < esden> but binutils will fail here ...
15:16 < blindcoder> esden: no, just updated to glibc 2.3.1 on my running system
15:16 < esden> that is not a glibc error
15:16 < esden> binutils will fail in the secon stage ...
15:17 < blindcoder> hmm it compiled before
15:17 < esden> +d
15:17 < esden> strange ... ok ... can be
15:17 < blindcoder> we'll see
15:17 < esden> rofl : package/rene/blender/blender.desc
15:17 < blindcoder> I just check if anything needs to be recompiled, too, so that my system _can_ come back up mhen rebooting
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15:18 < esden> rene wants to maintain all rock packets ?
15:18 < blindcoder> most of them
15:18 < esden> he is not able to maintain the packets he already has ...
15:18 < blindcoder> well
15:18 < esden> most of them are broken blindcoder 
15:19 < esden> all the enlightenment stuff is not compiling ...
15:19 < blindcoder> yes...
15:19 < esden> because of imlib2 ...
15:19 < blindcoder> btw: mhat package is libwrap in?
15:19 < esden> no idea
15:19 < esden> grep libwrap /var/adm/flist/*
15:20 < blindcoder> can you grep through your 1.7 flists?
15:20 < blindcoder> I have 1.5 running, esden...
15:20 < esden> ok ... moment I have to start my laptop
15:20 < blindcoder> and there the package is called sslwrap
15:20 < blindcoder> which doesn't exist is 1.7
15:20 < esden> so should I check or not ?
15:21 < esden> so you know where libwrap is ...
15:21 < esden> {
15:21 < esden> ?
15:21 < x1bncwn> its in tcp_wrappers
15:21 < esden> ok ... shutting down laptop
15:21 < blindcoder> x1bncwn: thanks
15:22 < esden> hmm ... I should go for lunch now
15:22 < blindcoder> esden: all the 1.5 stuff doesn't compile with glibc 2.3.1 so I need the 1.7 stuff
15:22 < esden> cu guys ... (lunch and reading the Lightweight Linux article)
15:23 < esden> blindcoder: ok
15:23 * -> esden off
15:23 < blindcoder> an guadn
15:23 * blindcoder off to the electronics-shop
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15:33 < x1bncwn> i keep getting this error
15:34 < x1bncwn> ./scripts/Build-Pkg: line 265: /usr/bin/time: No such file or directory
15:34 < x1bncwn> wtf is /usr/bin/time
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15:43 < Mike1> re
15:43 < rolla> er
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15:55 * Mike1 waiting for huebi to commit his last changes ...
15:57 < blindcoder> rehi
15:57 < blindcoder> esden: it's the "Automati documentation creation" that breaks binutils
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16:42 < Mike1> http://odin.informatica.co.cr/~mike/misc/report.txt
16:42 < Mike1> Commets, bug reports, suggestions are very welcome
16:45 < blindcoder> nice
16:45 < Mike1> :)
16:46 < Mike1> that will go to the Rolling ROCK
16:49 < x1bncwn> wtf is this thing downloading all of gnome and such when im trying to do a base installation
16:50 < blindcoder> sure, It's where it belongs :)
16:50 < blindcoder> x1bncwn: the domnloads are target specific
16:50 < blindcoder> if you don't want some packages, then deactivate them in the package selection
16:50 < x1bncwn> ok
16:51 < x1bncwn> but i dont rememeber telling to to choose all that
16:51 < x1bncwn> cant i *not* install all that?
16:51 < x1bncwn> and also i get an error on Build-Pkg something about  /usr/bin/time  which doesnt exist
16:51 < blindcoder> yes in the package selector
16:51 < blindcoder> you need to have `time` installed
16:51 < x1bncwn> well im actually installing from within another distro
16:52 < x1bncwn> i didnt see any option to select packages
16:52 < blindcoder> erm... ROCK 1.5 or 1.7?
16:52 < x1bncwn> 1.7
16:52 < blindcoder> it's in the `expert` functions
16:53 < x1bncwn> it only says
16:53 < x1bncwn> ,----< Package selection rules >----.
16:53 < x1bncwn> | 001:  <new line>
16:53 < x1bncwn> `-----------------------------------'
16:53 < x1bncwn> and show the current package list
16:53 < blindcoder> yes, hit enter on 001:  <new line>
16:53 < x1bncwn> ok
16:53 < x1bncwn> then enter package names?
16:54 < blindcoder> then enter something like `- gnome*`
16:54 < x1bncwn> some you can use wildcards?
16:54 < x1bncwn> so*
16:54 < blindcoder> yes
16:54 < x1bncwn> cool..thanks
16:54 < blindcoder> awk-style regex IIRC
16:54 < x1bncwn> about /usr/bin/time  ..wtf do i get that?
16:54 < blindcoder> maht distro?
16:55 < x1bncwn> there isnt even a /usr/bin/time in gentoo
16:55 < x1bncwn> or mandrake..heh
16:55 < x1bncwn> its a shell builtin
16:55 < x1bncwn> 'time'
16:55 < blindcoder> hmm... wait a minute...
16:55 < x1bncwn> but its a diff time..i switched to just time..and it errores
16:57 < blindcoder> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/time/time-1.7.tar.gz
17:04 < fake> esden: you @bitz around 1915 ?
17:05 < esden> re hi all
17:05 < esden> fake: which train are you taking
17:05 < esden> ?
17:05 < fake> 17:53
17:05 < esden> I have to go to DHR get some things and then get to the train
17:05 < fake> so you will be in bitz later than me?
17:06 < esden> fake could you take a train later ?
17:06 < fake> esden: i could.
17:06 < esden> will you do it /
17:06 < esden> L\
17:06 < esden> argh
17:06 < esden> ?
17:07 < esden> fake: ping
17:08 < blindcoder> *yawn*
17:08 < blindcoder> why oh why can't md5sum be faster >_<
17:09 < esden> blindcoder: get a faster box with better io performance ;-)
17:10 < esden> make a hardware acceleration for md5sum calculation ;-)
17:10 < blindcoder> it's the CD-Drive
17:10 < esden> lol
17:10 < blindcoder> well... it's the DVD-Drive with the CD-Rom inside
17:10 < esden> ok ... fake is not responding ... but I have to go ...
17:10 < blindcoder> bye
17:11 < esden> cu guys ... fake call me please
17:11 < Mike1> cu esden
17:14 < fake> esden: which train will you take?
17:14 < fake> douh.
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17:23 < blindcoder> 2 down, 5 to go
17:23 < x1bncwn> any idea on /usr/bin/time ?
17:23 < blindcoder> 016:51 < blindcoder> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/time/time-1.7.tar.gz
17:24 < x1bncwn> oh...my bad
17:24 < blindcoder> no problem :)
17:24 < blindcoder> just install it to /usr/bin and it should work out just fine
17:25 < x1bncwn> haha i feel really stupid
17:25 < x1bncwn> emerge -s time 'revealed' something to me
17:25 < x1bncwn> heh :P
17:25 < x1bncwn> *  sys-apps/time
17:25 < x1bncwn> 1.7 even
17:26 < x1bncwn> its still downloading all kinds of stuff though
17:26 < blindcoder> hmm
17:26 < x1bncwn> i did a install previously the same config..and it only download like 1/3 of what it is now
17:26 * fake off -> train.
17:26 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Download -required
17:27 < x1bncwn> it should already have everything -required
17:27 < x1bncwn> thats what i ran
17:27 < blindcoder> with -cfg <configname> it shouldn't happen
17:27 < x1bncwn> its downloading qt for christs sake
17:27 < x1bncwn> heh
17:27 < x1bncwn> i think its downloading everything
17:28 < blindcoder> hmm best would be to tell the rock-linux@rocklinux.org about it
17:32 < x1bncwn> ok so is there a way to do just a minimal install without excluding packages?
17:33 < x1bncwn> like what target should i be choosing
17:34 < x1bncwn> generic?
17:34 < Mike1> ... H ... U ... E ... B ... I ...
17:39 < x1bncwn> wtf is a .gem package?
17:40 < blindcoder> It will (is?) used by stone the package manager
17:40 < Mike1> rock linux pkg for Gem Mine pkg manager
17:40 < x1bncwn> oh..so its something new then?
17:40 < blindcoder> mine.... damnit...
17:40 < Mike1> blindcoder: :P
17:40 < Mike1> x1bncwn: yeah its a 1.7 feature
17:41 < blindcoder> I'm getting confused due to lack of coffee
17:41 < x1bncwn> what is it..like a rpm or something?
17:41 < x1bncwn> or is it a tar?
17:41 < Mike1> yet another package manager used only by one distro :)
17:41 < x1bncwn> no i mean the package format
17:42 < Mike1> x1bncwn: more likely to be tar
17:42 < x1bncwn> is it like some new algorithm or somehting?
17:42 < Mike1> rpm and rock linux dont get along at all
17:42 < x1bncwn> so i should choose that ove .tar.bz2?
17:42 < x1bncwn> over*
17:42 < x1bncwn> or it doesnt matter?
17:43 < Mike1> its up to you
17:43 < x1bncwn> the package tool can use both?
17:43 < Mike1> i think so (not totally sure)
17:44 * Mike1 is a 1.5 tree developer
17:44 < x1bncwn> is there like a doc somewhere on the new installer
17:44 < Mike1> blindcoder: ?
17:44 < x1bncwn> i dont get how im suppoe to disable packages
17:44 < x1bncwn> its got like ----    Use "O <pattern>" to disable packages
17:44 < x1bncwn> use O where?
17:45 < Mike1> blindcoder: !!!
17:45 < Mike1> x1bncwn: mom
17:45 * Mike1 troubleshooting a server
17:45 < blindcoder> hm?
17:46 < x1bncwn> whats the deal with the O and X and such to enable/disable packages
17:46 < Mike1> blindcoder: help me out answering rock 1.7 related questions :))
17:46 < x1bncwn> where do you set that
17:46 < x1bncwn> ----    Use "O <pattern>" to disable packages
17:46 < x1bncwn> so like "O gnome*"  ?
17:46 < blindcoder> O = don't install by default X = install by default and - = remove it from the package list
17:47 < blindcoder> with O it will still be built
17:47 < x1bncwn> so like "- gnome*"  then
17:47 < blindcoder> yes
17:47 < x1bncwn> what about all the libs that gnome would install
17:48 < x1bncwn> and stuff...bonobo libxml etc,etc
17:48 < blindcoder> if the dependencies list a disabled package then it won't be built
17:48 < x1bncwn> or do i have to implicitly disabel each one?
17:48 < x1bncwn> cool
17:50 < x1bncwn> ok so theres glibc and glibc22 how can i install only one of them?
17:50 < x1bncwn> !!!!! Syntax error in rule set !!!!!
17:50 < blindcoder> you need to have a ' ' between [XO-] and the package name
17:51 < x1bncwn> there is
17:51 < x1bncwn> "- glibc"
17:51 < x1bncwn> wouldnt that just use glibc22?
17:51 < blindcoder> hmmm you can choose  between glbc22 and 23 with another otion
17:52 < blindcoder> it  will endisable the respective option
17:53 < blindcoder> hmm can you paste youl list?
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18:02 < x1bncwn> for some reason its not working
18:02 < x1bncwn> ive tried "- gnome*" "- gnome/*" and - gnome* and - gnome/*
18:03 < x1bncwn> oh n/m..it seems i can only put one per line
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18:24 < blindcoder> sweet
18:24 < blindcoder> stage 5 without errors
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18:52 < tcr> moin all
18:52 < Mike1> moin tcr
18:54 < huebi> moin
18:55 < Mike1> huebi: !!
18:55 < Mike1> finally :)
18:55 < huebi> I've been to the SUN Benchmark Centre today.
18:55 < Mike1> cool
18:56 < Mike1> huebi: my build went straight to the end nothing broke
18:56 < huebi> I'll be there .
18:57 < tcr> what's up with 1.5.20?
18:57 < Mike1> tcr: its spected to be released ... today, huebi?
18:57 < huebi> I'll be there at the centre at friday morning again. I can test Rocklinux 1.5.20 for sparc 64 then on UltraSparcIII machines.
18:58 < Mike1> huebi: sounds like a lot of fun!! you will be able to build gnome2.1 stuff then
18:58 < Mike1> :)
18:58 < huebi> The release had to wait today because of my visit at SUN.
18:59 < huebi> 1.5.20 will be released till midnight.
18:59 < Mike1> midnight release... :)
19:00 < tcr> huebi: would nice if you could send a messages to the ml about that
19:00 < tcr> so that everyone is informed
19:00 < tcr> i believe there are many more wanting it
19:01 < Mike1> tcr: didnt know you were :)
19:01 < huebi> But I still have no working installation disks. That takes more time as expected. Also no Changes are documented in a way readable for all.
19:01 < huebi> I think I need time till tomorrow morning.
19:02 < tcr> well ... i don't need it today.. but please doesn't let us uninform
19:02 < tcr> doesn't->don't
19:02 < huebi> tcr: I keep you all informed.
19:02 < Mike1> mm...
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19:02 < huebi>  on
19:02 < huebi>                UltraSparcIII machines.
19:02 < huebi>  on
19:02 < huebi>                UltraSparcIII machines.
19:02 < huebi> oops
19:02 * Mike1 is away: meditating about 1.5
19:03 < Eisofen> 'lo
19:03 < tcr> m,oin
19:03 * huebi writing mail to the list.
19:03 < Eisofen> moin tcr
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19:11 < Eisofen> hmm.. 1.5.19-iso boots with Kernel-panic...
19:11 < huebi> Eisofen: What hardware?
19:11 < Eisofen> Athlon tbird, SCSI...
19:12 < Eisofen> panic came right after loading the scsi-layer
19:13 < tcr> what messages did you get
19:13 < Eisofen> ermh...
19:13 < Eisofen> *gruebl*
19:13 < huebi> Eisofen: in 1.5.20 I'll change that so that the modules have to be loaded manually
19:13 < huebi> Eisofen: what SCSI?
19:14 < Eisofen> adaptec
19:14 < Eisofen> one 29160 one 2944
19:14 < Eisofen> huebi: and please use the aic7xxxx_old ;-)
19:14 < huebi> try it with only one controller.
19:15 < huebi> Eisofen: why old
19:15 < Eisofen> since the new aic7-driver won't do here....
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19:15 < huebi> Eisofen: you can choose the one _you_ want in the future.
19:15 < huebi> re [anders]
19:16 < Eisofen> huebi: huu? I Thought it's not possible to compile both?
19:16 < huebi> Eisofen: as modules it should be
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19:16 < armijn> re
19:17 < armijn> sourceforge mirror seems to be down
19:17 < huebi> moin armijn
19:17 < armijn> for the webpage
19:17 < armijn> hi huebi
19:17 < armijn> is esden here?
19:17 < Eisofen> huebi: do you need the panic-message?
19:17 < tcr> moin armijn
19:17 < tcr> Eisofen: depends
19:17 < huebi> Eisofen: No, Please test it tomorrow with 1.5.20 again and let me here about it then.
19:18 < tcr> Eisofen: whas it just a kernel panic, or even a kernel oops?
19:18 < Eisofen> no, panic
19:18 < huebi> armijn: 18:55 < huebi> I've been to the SUN Benchmark Centre today.
19:18 < huebi> armijn: 18:57 < huebi> I'll be there at the centre at friday morning again. I can test Rocklinux 1.5.20 for sparc 64 then on
19:18 < huebi>                UltraSparcIII machines.
19:18 < huebi> 1
19:18 < Eisofen> oops I'll get when I try to boot gentoo 1.2 ;-)
19:19 < armijn> huebi: nice
19:19 * Eisofen got a Sun U30...
19:19 < huebi> armijn: Mr. Frenk is very cooperative.
19:19 < armijn> Mr. Frenk...
19:20 * tcr taking shower
19:20 < armijn> huebi: does everything compile and boot for 1.5.20/
19:20 < Eisofen> huebi: when will 1.5.20 up?
19:20 < huebi> compile yes, boot not yet
19:20 < armijn> huebi: so what's the problem?
19:21 < huebi> Eisofen: tomorrow. I post it here and on the mailing list.
19:21 < huebi> armijn: time.
19:21 < Eisofen> ok, thanks
19:21 < armijn> huebi: but why doesn't it boot? worng kernel config?
19:22 < huebi> armijn: no, I had no time today. SUN had a very much higher priority for me.
19:22 < armijn> but that doesn't really answer my question :)
19:23 < huebi> armijn: I have very fine kernels for IPC, SparcClassic, SparcStation 10, U5 and U30.
19:23 < armijn> ah, both sparc and sparc64?
19:23 < huebi> ACK
19:23 < armijn> and does that port work as well?
19:24 < Eisofen> *drool*
19:24 < armijn> no way, sparc was supposed to be my task :))
19:24 < huebi> armijn: I did not built as boot CD. But what I've tested worked very, very good.
19:24 < armijn> well, I do have a working ROCK on sparc64, so...
19:25 < armijn> a few minor glitches though
19:25 < huebi> armijn: Ok, just send me the bootable sparc kernel. This is the only differece to the sparc64 port.
19:26 < armijn> heh, I haven't gotten around to actually do stuff on sparc ;-)
19:29 < armijn> huebi: so it's just the boot CD missing for sparc64?
19:33 < huebi> armijn: yes, only the boot cd is missing.
19:33 < armijn> ah, so no big deal then...
19:33 < huebi> I must leave now. Cu later tonight.
19:33 < huebi> armijn: yes, no big deal but it needs time I spend at SUN today
19:34 < huebi> cu
19:34 < huebi> ...wech
19:35 < armijn> ok
19:35 * armijn gone as well
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20:00 < fake> huebi: the test center in langen?
20:00 < fake> Ruediger "The Gummibear" Frenk ?
20:01 < fake> douh.
20:06 * tcr re
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20:14 * snyke kicks fake
20:14 * blindcoder too
20:14 < snyke> fake: move your ass to bitz (esden)
20:15 < blindcoder> esden: ROCK 1.7 compiled straight through to stage 5
20:16 < blindcoder> == 19:23:26 =[5]=> Building base/gcc3 [3.2 1.7-snapshot].
20:16 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg amd
20:16 < blindcoder> Error logs from build/amd-1.7-snapshot-ia32-generic-expert/root/var/adm/logs:
20:16 < blindcoder> 559 builds total, 82 completed fine, 0 with errors.
20:16 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7#
20:16 < snyke> (esden) ehm. ja.
20:17 < blindcoder> someone should add "Update to glibc 2.3.1 and gcc3 to succesfully compile ROCK" to the dokus
20:23 < blindcoder> esden:  mbtw, please tell me what you think of http://scavenger.homeip.net/archive.php (the content)
20:25 < snyke> esden makes coffee
20:25 * Mike1 is back (gone 01:23:06)
20:26 < Mike1> re
20:27 < Mike1> huhu [anders]
20:27 < snyke> The archive is currently empty
20:27 < snyke> .oO( esden )
20:27 < snyke> lain ist nicht da schaeme dich ;-) (esden)
20:28 < blindcoder> HAE???
20:28 < blindcoder> wie "The archive is currently empty"???
20:28 < blindcoder> ich bin noch am wiederaufbauen
20:28 < snyke> (esden :Q)
20:28 < snyke> he searched for "lain" and got "The arch..."
20:29 < blindcoder> hmm then it's a bug
20:29 < blindcoder> search for %
20:31 < snyke> (esden) sweet
20:31 < snyke> esden @ :-Q
20:31 < Mike1> snykesden?
20:33 < blindcoder> what a mix >_<
20:34 < Mike1> blindcoder: :)
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20:34 < Mike1> kaerf ih
20:35 < blindcoder> care free?
20:35 < Freak> 1ekiM ih
20:35 < Mike1> :)
20:35 < Mike1> blindcoder: ??
20:36 < blindcoder> 20:23 < Mike1> kaerf ih (sounds like care free :)
20:36 < Freak> heh
20:37 < Mike1> blindcoder: lol :)
20:37 < Mike1> oki go back to source
20:37 * Mike1 porting gnome2.1 to the official 1.5 tree
20:41 < Mike1> ping huebi
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20:44 < snyke> brb
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20:53 * blindcoder now off te bed
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20:53 < maisenhe> re
20:53 < blindcoder> oyasumi nasai, mina-san! (Good night, everyone!)
20:53 < Mike1> yo maisenhe
20:53 < Mike1> oyasumi nasai blindy
20:58 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9E11B11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
20:58 < tsa> moin.
20:58 < Mike1> hola tsa
20:59 < tsa> holy Mike1
20:59 < tsa> s,y,a
20:59 < Mike1> holy tsa
20:59 < Mike1> :P
20:59 < tsa> hehe
20:59 < tsa> <- too dumb to type
20:59 < Mike1> tape
20:59 < Mike1> :)
21:02 * tsa refetching complete 1.7 sources.
21:02 < tsa> *sigh* more than half of rene's packages seem to have broken download locations..
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21:13 < _NULL> seid gegruesst/hi
21:13 < tsa> hi owlita
21:13 < tsa> *hug*
21:13 < _NULL> tsa: hi. nicht schon wieder!!!
21:15 < Mike1> 1...
21:15 < Mike1> 2...
21:15 < Mike1> 3...
21:15 < _NULL> hi Mike1
21:15 < _NULL> stop!
21:15 * Mike1 hugs owlita
21:15 < Mike1> hi owlita
21:15 < _NULL> nonono
21:15 < Mike1> SO GLAD TO SEE U !
21:15 < _NULL> thx. the same to you.
21:17 < esden> re hi all
21:17 < Mike1> re esden
21:17 < tsa> _NULL: prefieres un beso?
21:17 < tsa> hi esden
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21:18 < tsa> (de Mike1, por supuesto)
21:18 < _NULL> hi esden
21:18 < Mike1> huhu [anders]_
21:18 < Mike1> wtf?
21:18 < _NULL> tsa: not again!
21:18 < tsa> _NULL: por que?
21:18 < Mike1> tsa come on dude just go and do it
21:18 < Mike1> i know you want it
21:18 < _NULL> tsa: no hable espanol
21:18 < _NULL> s/hable/hablo
21:19 < Mike1> tsa hehe creo que ya ahora si me dieron ganas de hablar espanol
21:20 < Mike1> tsa que estas experando :)
21:20 < Mike1> esperando*
21:26 < tsa> nada....solo bromeando con _NULL ..
21:27 < _NULL> tsa: huh?
21:27 < Mike1> tsa: hehe ni si quiera sabe si esta mos bromeando o hablando cosas malas
21:28 < Mike1> eres malo con _NULL sabes? hehe
21:28 < tsa> hehehe
21:29 < _NULL> Mike1, tsa: *lynch*
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21:29 < tsa> what for? just because you don't understand what we're talking about?
21:33 < tsa> _NULL: enojada?
21:34 < Mike1> tsa: como siempre
21:34 < tsa> si, probablemente..
21:34 < Mike1> dale un besito para que se le quito lo enojada
21:34 < Mike1> :P
21:34 < tsa> nunca! jamas!
21:35 < Mike1> nunca digas nunca :P
21:35 < tsa> es tu novia, no es la mija..
21:35 < Mike1> como que mi novia?
21:35 < Mike1> estas loco
21:35 < tsa> ack ;)
21:36 < tsa> _NULL: still alive?
21:36 < Mike1> tsa: http://odin.informatica.co.cr/~mike/personal/pics/we.png
21:36 * Mike1 pokes owlita with a stick
21:37 < Mike1> esa si es mi novia
21:37 < Mike1> :P
21:37 < tsa> hehe
21:37 < tsa> cuantos anos tiene tu novia?
21:37 < Mike1> 21
21:37 < Mike1> :P
21:38 < tsa> joven..
21:38 < tsa> muy joven..
21:38 < Mike1> atras podras ver mi jetsky :)
21:38 < _NULL> huh??
21:38 < _NULL> tsa: nope. almost dead.
21:38 < Mike1> tsa yo tambien tengo 21 que esperabas ?
21:38 -!- _NULL is now known as zombie
21:38 < Mike1> zombie: are you a blood donator?
21:39 < tsa> zombie: saludos al diablo..
21:39 < Mike1> tsa: tu tienes otra novia ademas de owl?
21:39 < zombie> huh?
21:39 < Mike1> tsa zombie es la amante del diablo
21:39 < zombie> i'm just a almost-dead owl/_NULL
21:39 < Mike1> :PP
21:39 < zombie>  zombie != diablo
21:40 < tsa> Mike1: no y no.
21:40 < tsa> Mike1: no es mi novia.
21:40 < Mike1> zombie: knows what diablo is?
21:40 < tsa> tengo una, pero no es owl.
21:40 < Mike1> tsa hehe
21:40 < zombie> zombie: a devil...?
21:40 < Mike1> pero tienes novia?
21:40 < tsa> si
21:40 < Mike1> zombie: devil = weak in spanish
21:40 < Mike1> tsa: tienes fotos?
21:40 < Mike1> :)
21:41 < zombie> Mike1: urhgs.
21:41 < Mike1> zombie: eres devil?
21:41 < zombie> Mike1: ???
21:41 < zombie> tsa = devil...? yes
21:42 < zombie> s/=/==
21:42 < Mike1> zombie: ¿¿¿
21:42 < zombie> ???
21:42 < Mike1> ¿¿¿
21:42 < zombie> omg
21:43 < Mike1> tsa: en cuanto tiempo crees que reviente de enojo (otra vez)?
21:46 < tsa> hm...diez anos?
21:46 < tsa> ;)
21:46 < Mike1> diez minutos?
21:46 < Mike1> :P
21:47 < tsa> hm..
21:47 < tsa> vamos a ver..
21:47 < Mike1> owl te gusta comer tortillas de maiz?
21:48 < Mike1> tsa: hablamos incoherencias?
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21:49 < fooblah> hello
21:49 < tsa> Mike1: hm?
21:49 < Mike1> hi fooblah
21:49 < Mike1> tsa: nevermind
21:49 * Mike1 on the phone
21:49 < tsa> sigh..seems i'm getting old ;)
21:49 < Mike1> :P
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21:50 < zombie> tsa: you _ARE_ old...
21:50 < zombie> hi fooblah
21:51 < Mike1> ohhh tsa that must hurt comming from a zombie
21:51 < zombie> Mike1: *g* nope. just the evil master of cynism ;P
21:52 < Mike1> oh
21:52 < Mike1> Master zombie>?
21:52 < zombie> master yoda ;P
21:52 < Mike1> "Wonderfull the mind of the child is"
21:53 < zombie> nope. i'm jsut tired and stressed and annoyed by many things...
21:54 * fooblah is listening to Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody ;)
21:54 * zombie is listening to AMD K6-II && intel pentium 1 cooler...
21:54 < tsa> zombie: which are?
21:55 < zombie> tsa: my relatives (especially my cousins), the fscking "deutsche bahn", moving (the office) and so on... and i'm damned tired but can't sleep
21:55 < tsa> hm..
21:56 * Mike1 listens to 2, 4 amd athlon 1.5 mp machines next to him
21:56 < zombie> Mike1: send some of those machines to me! ;)
21:57 < esden> Mike1: send some of them here too ;-)
21:57 < zombie> esden: nope, you are male, you don't get one ;P
21:57 < Mike1> well ur a zombie so neither you will get one :P
21:58 < zombie> ;PPP
21:58 < Mike1> but hey tsa is my a good friend
21:58 < Mike1> so he might have a chance is he's got a pretty sister or friend
21:58 < Mike1> *ggg*
21:58 < zombie> uh. you and tsa have a relationship...
21:59 < zombie> tstststs...
21:59 < esden> owl can you stop changing your nicks ? !!!
21:59 < zombie> esden: nope. why should i?
21:59 < esden> that is starting to go on my nerves >_<
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22:00 < zombie> esden: your problem. not mine.
22:00 * Mike1 feel esden's anger
22:00 < Mike1> the zombie will be destoyed
22:00 < esden> zombie: it can become your problem too ...
22:01 < zombie> esden: if you're frustrated you should leave the house, go to the city anf have look for girls who wanna fsck with you or things like that. _but stop offending/annoying me_!!!
22:03 < Mike1> zombie: whats ur problem with esden?
22:03 < zombie> Mike1: better you should ask esden what's his problem with me
22:03 < Mike1> if you got problems with esden then guess what you got problems with me too
22:04 < Mike1> zombie: simple you should stick a single nick name, it becomes a pain to have someone talking to you with a diferent nickname all the time, without mentioning the god damn flood in the channel with just nick switch advices
22:06 < Mike1> </flame war>
22:07 < zombie> Mike1, esden: "Ge0rG is still looking for that perfect nick after 119 changes thalerim (73)" << what about these people?
22:07 < zombie> i have just _3_ nicks!
22:08 < Mike1> owl you change nicks at least once every hour
22:08 < Mike1> thats a lot different
22:08 < zombie> oh great
22:08 < zombie> and bye
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22:09 < Mike1> damn no you cant tell her anything
22:09 < Mike1> s/no/now*
22:09 < fooblah> hmm...
22:10 < fooblah> girls... ;)
22:10 < Mike1> fooblah: yeah
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22:28 < esden> rofl owl rulez ! ;-)
22:29 < Mike1> hehe of course
22:29 < tsa> y?
22:29 < tcr> tsa: the patches sent to list, are these for 1.5 or 1.7?
22:30 < tcr> or both :?
22:30 < tsa> 1.7
22:30 < Mike1> tsa nice patch flood btw :)
22:30 < tsa> hehe
22:30 < tcr> well, could you point them to huebi?
22:30 < Mike1> tcr: ?
22:30 < tsa> huebi reads the list, doesn't he?
22:31 < Mike1> tcr: 1.5 when a patch if for 15 it is specified on the subject else it is taken as it is for 1.7
22:32 < tcr> oks
22:32 < Mike1> tcr: no worries i take care of availability of 1.5 ;)
22:32 < tcr> i hope they will go in 1.5.20
22:32 < tcr> thats the whole point for me
22:32 < Mike1> tcr: we will see
22:33 < Mike1> tcr: 1.5.20 release is only missing a few fixes for install disks from huebi
22:33 < Mike1> tcr: all packages have the right download url and have been tested to build straight - no problems
22:33 < tcr> well maybe some of them are already in 1.5
22:34 * tsa sending next patch..
22:34 < Mike1> so i will not update any more packages untill 1.520 is released
22:34 < tcr> it pretty sucks that there isn't any communication between 1.5 and 1.7
22:34 < Mike1> which is about a few hours
22:34 < tcr> seems to be two completely different projects from time to time!
22:34 < Mike1> tcr: 1.7 and 1.5 are totally different
22:34 < tcr> that's not the point
22:35 < tcr> in issues like e.g. pkg updating it should be one base
22:35 < tcr> s,be,exist
22:35 < tcr> on that both trees relies!
22:37 * tcr brb
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22:38 < tcr> lilo and e2fsprogs should be up to date in 1.5
22:39 < Mike1> tcr: will check it out
22:40 < tcr> tsa: i pointed some outdated pkgs to huebi some days ago
22:40 < tcr> tsa: please verify if the following are outdated in 1.7 too:
22:40 < tcr> sed 4.x
22:40 < tcr> procps 3.x
22:40 < Mike1> tcr: send me a list of the packages and i will update them
22:40 < tcr> these are the important ones!
22:40 < tcr> 'cause they changed the branch-version-number
22:41 < tcr> sed 4.0 contains merges with super-sed, and it rulez that's why :D
22:41 < tcr> and procps 3.x rulez anyway!
22:41 < tcr> Mike1: in 1.5 they are updated
22:41 < Mike1> tcr: ok
22:41 < tsa> tcr: just sent a patch for sed
22:42 < Mike1> tcr: you could also provide us patches :)
22:42 < tcr> i don't use 1.7
22:42 < Mike1> tcr: for 1.5
22:43 < tcr> i pointed them to huebi in order to let them get in 1.5.20 -- so that he will verify a prope building of them
22:43 < tsa> fsck.
22:43 < tsa> login incorrect for metalab.unc.edu
22:43 < Mike1> tcr: already did :)
22:43 < tcr> but.. well
22:44 < tcr> I also suggest huebi to append a list of all changed pkgs
22:44 < tcr> in his release mail
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22:44 < tcr> so the 1.7 people will get the chance to see what pkg might be outdated
22:45 < Mike1> tcr: that would be too time consuming everything is on the changelog
22:45 < Mike1> and i they wanna see the package versions they can fetch cvs run Puzzle and read scripts/packages
22:46 < tsa> procps patch done, too.
22:46 < tcr> every release mail should contain such a list
22:46 < tcr> the cvs changelogs aren't very good to read
22:47 < tcr> it's better to have one table: old -> new
22:47 < Mike1> old new ....
22:48 < Mike1> that would require me or huebi to read changelog and do it manually
22:48 < Mike1> ah well i guess i will have to do it, thought 1.7 developers dont really care about whats going with 1.5
22:48 < tsa> ok, i guess 15 patches (+1 sent directly to cliff) will be enough for today of clifford will possibly kill me..
22:48 < tcr> he said it's a good idea, and he will do it
22:48 < tsa> s,of,or,
22:48 < tcr> Mike1: but /me cares
22:49 < Mike1> tsa: nah just sent him 15 more :)
22:49 < tsa> hm...did anyone talk to rxr in the last days?
22:49 < Mike1> tcr: ok if he agreed it will be that way
22:50 < Mike1> tcr: and btw thanks a lot for caring
22:50 < Mike1> it really means a lot to us
22:50 < tsa> i really wonder what's up with him - most of his packages are outdated or have broken download urls...
22:50 < Mike1> THANKS :)
22:50 < tcr> Mike1: the 1.5 tree should release a new release monthly .. this release mail should contain - besides urls/commandos to get/update - a list of new features or changed things, and also a list of updated pkgs
22:50 < tsa> strange..
22:50 < Mike1> tsa: thats because other sent him 16 packages a day and keep him to busy to update his own
22:50 < tcr> that would be a profession and very apprecipate way
22:50 < Mike1> *ggg*
22:51 < tsa> Mike1: i did not send any patches for rene's stuff..
22:51 < Mike1> tcr: you are right, nice suggestions
22:51 < tsa> Mike1: just base, ia32 and my own stuff..
22:51 < Mike1> tsa: i know
22:51 < Mike1> btw whos more out of date rene or cliff?
22:51 < tsa> rene.
22:52 < Mike1> hehe
22:53 < tsa> jsut a quick example - evolution 1.0.8 was released months ago, the new 1.2 tree introduced yesterday - rene still has 1.0.7 in his packages.. *sigh*
22:53 < Mike1> mm....
22:53 < tcr> he seems very busy currently
22:53 < tcr> that means with other things
22:54 < Mike1> i have not talk / hear from him in a lot of time
22:54 < tsa> tcr: which means women, in most cases...
23:00 < tsa> perhaps we should post some wild romours to the mailing list..
23:00 < tsa> s,o,u,
23:01 < tsa> hm...what do you think about "rene is pregnant"? ;-)))
23:04 < Mike1> ROTL
23:04 < tsa> *G*
23:04 < tsa> eeehrm...
23:04 < tsa> WTF?
23:04 < tsa> we still don't have xfree 4.2.1 in 1.7?
23:04 < tcr> lol++++++
23:05 < tcr> in 1.5?
23:05 < tsa> tcr: don't know.
23:05 < tcr> well.. i don't care.. console rulezS
23:05 < tsa> at least definitely not in 1.7
23:05 < tsa> hehe
23:05 < tsa> i'll send rene a mail.
23:05 < tsa> off-list.
23:06 < tcr> "Ey, bist du schwanger oder was?"
23:06 < tsa> we planned pre2.0 stuff for this year, but > 50% of all packages seem to be broken...*sigh*
23:06 < tsa> lol.
23:06 * paperclip is away: sniffing crack
23:07 < tsa> cracking sniff?
23:08 < tsa> curl: (22) The requested file was not found
23:08 < tsa> NARF!
23:08 < tsa> always the same thing.
23:10 < paperclip> don't you guys mirror packages on ibiblio?
23:11 < tsa> nope
23:11 < paperclip> hmm gentoo does.. at first i thought it was a waste..
23:12 < fooblah|away> best band of world: Allman Brothers Band (song: whipping post) ;)
23:12 < tsa> well, we have several mirrors, but that doesn't help if the master site doesn't have the software anymore because it's just outdated..
23:13 * tsa throws en empty bottle at rxr - "go, fix packages!" ..
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23:25 < esden> cool 1.7 rulez !!!
23:26 < tsa> ?
23:27 * -> esden has updated nearly all his machines to 1.7 ... and it seems to work nearly perfectly
23:27 < esden> besides some shortcommings in stone ... and some other minor problems
23:27 < esden> like the missing pcmcia startup script
23:28 < tcr> shortcommings?
23:28 < tcr> "zu kurz kommen" ?
23:28 < esden> yes ... it is in many places not working properly like detection of the root partition for lilo/grub
23:28 < tcr> let me see
23:29 < esden> shortcommings = vernachlaessigungen/faehlende features
23:30 < esden> also selection and deselection of whole packet categorys
23:30 < tcr> hm
23:30 < tcr> dunno if clifford applied my patch for using rootfs
23:30 < tcr> s,for,when,
23:31 < tcr> the detection of the root device should work unless you're using rootfs
23:32 < tcr> modutils were updated in 1.5
23:32 < esden> ? o_O
23:32 < tcr> regarding to tsa
23:33 < esden> tcr: you are thalerim ? sorry for this question in advance.
23:33 < tsa> hehe
23:33 < tcr> yes
23:34 < esden> hehe ... ahh good ... because thalerim disappeared suddenly and you came here ;-)
23:34 < tsa> lol.
23:35 < tcr> naturally
23:35 < esden> yes ... ;-)
23:38 * tcr gn8 all
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23:48 < snyke> hm
23:52 < esden> hi snyke 
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