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00:02 < esden> cu guys
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00:31 < c4y0> Hello!!!!!!
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00:35 < esden> which binary is to get the names of the librarys a binary is linked against ?
00:35 < esden> hi c4y0 
00:35 < tsa> esden: ldd
00:36 < tsa> hi c4y0
00:40 < c4y0> hi!
00:41 < c4y0> if i dont have a lot experience with linux, can i use rock linux?
00:41 < c4y0> i cant find documentacion!!!!!!!!!!
00:41 < c4y0> all is for expert users!!
00:41 < c4y0> :(
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01:01 < esden> c4y0: no ... use mandrake ... but if you want to learn a lot ... then rocklinux is for you
01:02 < esden> but be warned that you will probably undergo mental corruption if you lack linux experience ;-)
01:04 < esden> rocklinux documetnation is it's code ... and the stuff that is in the Documentation directory in the sources of rock
01:05 < esden> g'night
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03:51 < Mike1> moin
03:52 < Mike1> piong huebi
03:52 < Mike1> ping*
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04:27 < x1bncwn> anyone know how to fix this
04:28 < x1bncwn> Building tools in build/default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-pentium3-generic-expert:
04:28 < x1bncwn> -> Building tools.chroot/wrapper/cc-wrapper.
04:28 < x1bncwn> cc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory
04:28 < x1bncwn> alcatraz rock-src-1.7-200211011743 # type -p as
04:28 < x1bncwn> /usr/bin/as
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04:39 < x1bncwn> noone has any idea?
04:52 < capone> of what ?
04:55 < x1bncwn> cc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory anyone know how to fix this error
04:56 < x1bncwn> -> Building tools.chroot/wrapper/cc-wrapper.
04:56 < x1bncwn> during that
04:56 < capone> umm
04:56 < capone> binutils
04:57 < x1bncwn> i just did Build-Pkg binutils
04:57 < capone> u dunt have binutils propertly installed or it is not reachable by the program ur compiling
04:57 < x1bncwn> and im installing from another distro that already has binutils
04:57 < capone> um
04:57 < capone> which distro ?
04:57 < x1bncwn> alcatraz rock-src-1.7-200211011743 # which as
04:57 < x1bncwn> /usr/bin/as
04:57 < x1bncwn> gentoo
04:57 < capone> strange for me
04:58 < capone> da u know about shell scripting ? u could take a look deeper in that script... and search where 'as' is located. i dunt use rock 1.7 yet.
04:59 < x1bncwn> i dont even see what as is called
04:59 < x1bncwn> where*
05:00 < capone> umm, this message is sent by cc.. i could help u more if i had sources, but i dunt. :(. try to ensure obvious things.. PATH, that 'as' really works... and that.
05:01 < x1bncwn> it does
05:01 < x1bncwn> and its in the PATH
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08:47 < fooblah> hello
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09:16 < fooblah> just one problem between me and the iso :(
09:16 < fooblah> make[3]: *** [locale.lo] Error 1
09:16 < fooblah> make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/rock-src-1.7/src.gcc3.1037087378.19045.2136286620/gcc-3.2/objdir/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/src'
09:16 < fooblah> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
09:16 < fooblah> make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/rock-src-1.7/src.gcc3.1037087378.19045.2136286620/gcc-3.2/objdir/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3'
09:16 < fooblah> make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
09:16 < fooblah> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/rock-src-1.7/src.gcc3.1037087378.19045.2136286620/gcc-3.2/objdir/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3'
09:16 < fooblah> make: *** [all-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 2
09:16 < fooblah> can anybody help?
09:42 < fake> mornin
09:43 < fake> which package?
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09:45 < fooblah> gcc3
09:45 < fooblah> i try it again
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09:46 < fake> urgh...
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09:50 < fake> hi [anders] !
09:54 < fooblah|away> same error :/
09:54 < fooblah|away> i try it with gcc2
10:00 < fake> err..
10:00 < fake> that won't work with glibc 2.3.1
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10:08 < blindcoder>  /away
10:09 < blindcoder> moin
10:12 < fooblah|away> hmm... gcc2 works with glibc2.3
10:12 < fooblah|away> == 11/12/02 10:11:37 =[9]=> Finished building package gcc2.
10:12 < fooblah|away> but gcc3 won't work :(
10:12 < fooblah|away> i update it later.. hope it will work
10:15 < fake> huh ?
10:15 < fake> o_O ?
10:15 < fooblah|away> ?
10:15 < fooblah|away> hmm...
10:15 < fooblah|away> i need a bootable iso
10:15 < fake> gcc2 works... ? is you build-systems glibs 2.2.5 by chance?
10:15 < fooblah|away> WARNING: Disk1 is not bootable - no boot options defined.
10:15 < fooblah|away> whats the flag for bootable?
10:16 < fake> under fdisk?
10:16 < fooblah|away> i've got slackware gcc3 with glibc2.1
10:16 < fake> hm..
10:16 < fooblah|away> but i used the cross compiler
10:16 < fooblah|away> cause glibc2.1 makes problems with the march=athlon-tbird
10:17 < fooblah|away> is there a flag for building a bootable iso?
10:17 < blindcoder> the bootdisk target
10:18 * blindcoder updated to glibc 2.3.1 and gcc3 on his host-system to campile Rock
10:18 < blindcoder> well... most rene/* packages still fail, but that's another story
10:19 < fooblah|away> hmm... i've choosen the bootdisk target (boot-, install-, rescue-system)
10:19 < fooblah|away> ah i've forgotten the Config .. ;)
10:20 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off again
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11:27 < esden> morning guys
11:30 < fake> mornin esden
11:30 < esden> ahh ... morgen fake 
11:35 * -> esden got rid of the nasty error message of the linux24 packet
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11:36 < esden> it was my own stupidity
11:44 < esden> hmm ... now is gzip failing
11:46 < [anders]> re fake
11:47 * [anders] is not very active on irc presently.. a little too much to do work-wise and privately. not enough time really..
11:49 < esden> [anders]: that is sad
11:49 < esden> [anders]: and hello so by the way ;-)
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11:54 < esden> hi blindcoder 
11:54 < esden> and cu
11:57 < [anders]> esden: hullo there.. :) hope you are having a little more time available than I do.
11:57 * [anders] is looking back at when I was in school and wish I had that much time spare as I used to have then..
12:12 < fake> [anders]: esden is a a student. he has more time than he needs ;)
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12:50 < x1bncwn> bleh...wtf
12:50 < th> SMP: PING?
12:50 < [anders]> fake: heh... :)
12:50 < x1bncwn> i cant get 1.7 to install
12:50 < x1bncwn> error after error
12:51 < x1bncwn> first it couldnt find time
12:51 < x1bncwn> then it couldnt find as
12:51 < x1bncwn> now it can even find freakin bin/sh
12:51 < x1bncwn> wtf is wrong with it
12:51 < x1bncwn> this is all after waiting like 3 hrs on each time
12:52 < x1bncwn> it builds most of the stuff..then for no apparent reason..just errors
12:52 < x1bncwn> alcatraz rock-src-1.7-200211011743 # ./scripts/Build-Target
12:52 < x1bncwn> chroot: bin/sh: No such file or directory
12:53 < x1bncwn> im guessing its broken
12:54 < x1bncwn> oh well..guess i wont be checking rock out then..heh
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12:59 < x1bncwn> is there any docs on doing an install from a ramdisk or from within another distro
12:59 < x1bncwn> maybe i gotta chroot something
13:01 < x1bncwn> theres only one line in Build-Target with the line chroot in it..so it has to be there
13:01 < x1bncwn> #   This script is the ROCK work-horse. It builds in a chroot environment
13:01 < x1bncwn>  [ $stagelevel -gt 1 ] && cmd_root="$cmd_root -chroot"
13:02 < x1bncwn> or do you all of you doing an install from a cd or something
13:04 < x1bncwn> any of you know?
13:04 < x1bncwn> where would i chroot to?
13:07 < SMP> you are mixing things up
13:07 < x1bncwn> it wont find sh or as or anything
13:07 < x1bncwn> i need to chroot somewhere
13:07 < SMP> do you say "install" and mean "build"?
13:07 < x1bncwn> where?
13:08 < x1bncwn> yea..build
13:08 < x1bncwn> chroot build/default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-pentium3-generic-expert/root /bin/bash
13:08 < x1bncwn> chroot: /bin/bash: No such file or directory
13:09 < SMP> is that a command you typed?
13:09 < x1bncwn> yea
13:09 < x1bncwn> alcatraz rock-src-1.7-200211011743 # ./scripts/Build-Target
13:09 < x1bncwn> chroot: bin/sh: No such file or directory
13:09 < x1bncwn> see?
13:09 < SMP> ahh
13:10 < x1bncwn> does the same thing with as
13:10 < SMP> I don't know the 1.7 tree very well
13:10 < x1bncwn> well it obviously needs to chroot to somewhere
13:10 < x1bncwn> where would that be in say 1.5?
13:11 < x1bncwn> i mean if its looking for the /bin/sh it built
13:11 < x1bncwn> i have to be chrooted to that /root dir in order to use it dont i
13:11 < x1bncwn> ?
13:12 < SMP> no, you don't chroot anywhere
13:12 < x1bncwn> then the build script is broken
13:12 < x1bncwn> this is like the 4th attempt
13:12 < x1bncwn> each time a new error
13:13 < x1bncwn> it cant find bin/sh
13:13 < x1bncwn> not the lack of a preceeding /
13:13 < x1bncwn> which means it has to be chrooted to that root dir
13:13 < x1bncwn> or bin/sh doesnt exist
13:14 < x1bncwn>  /bin/sh does
13:14 < th> SMP: was war'n grad los? war ein link von euch down?
13:14 < x1bncwn> but not bin/sh
13:14 < SMP> th: ja, die Leitung nach WR
13:15 < x1bncwn> this is exactely what i did
13:15 < x1bncwn> i dled the src..extracted it to my /home dir
13:15 < x1bncwn> ran ./scripts/Config
13:16 < th> SMP: es gab uebrigens seltsamerweise garkeine lieferung
13:16 < x1bncwn> selected the packages i wanted
13:16 < x1bncwn> then i ran ./scripts/Download -required
13:16 < x1bncwn> then i ran ./scripts/Build-Target
13:16 < x1bncwn> each time
13:16 < x1bncwn> a diff error..at a diff stage in building
13:18 < x1bncwn> ok..let me try a diff aproach..does anyone in this channel..actually use ROCK 1.7
13:18 < x1bncwn> or has anyone installed it previously
13:19 * th is still on 1.5. using it productiv.
13:19 < x1bncwn> any ideas why it cant find bin/sh or it cant exec `as'
13:20 < x1bncwn> its not chrooting where its suppose to right?
13:20 < th> wrong architecture?
13:20 < x1bncwn> its configed right
13:20 < x1bncwn> its not being chrooted
13:20 < x1bncwn> the script chroots itself or something
13:20 < x1bncwn> its not working
13:20 < x1bncwn> see if im in /
13:20 < x1bncwn>  bin/sh works
13:20 < x1bncwn> but if im anywhere else
13:21 < x1bncwn>  bin/sh doesnt exist
13:21 < x1bncwn> thats th problem
13:21 < x1bncwn> it needs to chroot to the `root' dir inside the build dir
13:22 < x1bncwn> but it wont work
13:23 < x1bncwn> chroot build/default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-pentium3-generic-expert bin/bash
13:23 < x1bncwn> chroot: bin/bash: No such file or directory
13:23 < x1bncwn> or with the / either
13:23 < x1bncwn> chroot: /bin/bash: No such file or directory
13:23 < SMP> that's probably just the effect of (a) previous error(s) in the build
13:23 < x1bncwn> there was no previous errors
13:23 < x1bncwn> it was looping
13:24 < x1bncwn> chroot: bin/sh: no such file or directory
13:24 < x1bncwn> over and over
13:24 < th> looping sounds like an error to me
13:24 < x1bncwn> a error in the script it was it sounds like to me
13:24 < x1bncwn> it hasnt errores twice in the same spot yet
13:24 < x1bncwn> in 4 attempts
13:25 < x1bncwn> inconsistency == something wrong with the script
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13:28 < x1bncwn> bah..i will not be defeated by a mere syntax error!
13:32 < x1bncwn> cmd_root="-root ${build_root}"
13:33 < x1bncwn> [ $stagelevel -gt 1 ] && cmd_root="$cmd_root -chroot"
13:33 < x1bncwn> thats the only instance of 'chroot' in Build-Target
13:37 < x1bncwn> well its calling pkgloop_action before its been (){} defined.. not sure if that matters..i thought it executed commands as they were read rather then parsing the entire script first
13:49 < blindcoder> x1bncwn: double-check if bash built in stage 1
13:49 < blindcoder> that error occured here, too, and it was bash that didn't build
14:19 < fake> if bash didn't build the chroot will fail for sure
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14:25 < fooblah> have a problem :(
14:25 < fooblah> loop: can't open device /dev/loop/*: No such file or directory
14:25 < fooblah> !> No free loopback device found!
14:26 < fake> yeah
14:26 < [anders]> fooblah:
14:26 < fake> i know that
14:26 < [anders]> err..
14:26 < fooblah> hmm...
14:26 < fake> you need to have devfs on the system you build on to create the iso
14:27 < [anders]> if you have used a loop device, and unmounted it again.
14:27 < fooblah> i have devfs
14:27 < [anders]> it might still be in use..
14:27 < fake> you should do a mount -t devfs none /dev
14:27 < fake> BUT
14:27 < [anders]> and since you by default only habe 8 of them.
14:27 < fake> you will have to re-boot your system after you created the iso
14:27 < [anders]> you might have to do losetup -d /dev/loop/? to free them up
14:27 < fake> fooblah: is devfs mounted on /dev ?
14:28 < fooblah> *confused*
14:28 < fooblah> *gg*
14:28 < fooblah> aehm
14:28 < fake> simply type "mount"
14:28 < fake> and see wether /dev is a mounted devfs
14:28 < fooblah> none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
14:28 < fooblah> none on /proc type proc (rw)
14:28 < fake> if not, listen to me, otherwise listen to [anders]
14:28 < fake> so no, you build system is not using devfs.
14:28 < fooblah> there are missing hda1, hda3 and hda6
14:29 < fooblah> hmm...
14:29 < fake> it supports it, but it does not use it
14:29 < fake> if you now mount it on dev
14:29 < fake> you will bnno longer be able to log in, once you logged out
14:29 < fake> (except with ssh... etc)
14:29 < fake> until reboot
14:29 < fake> but i did that two times, to be able to burn the isos
14:30 < fake> so just do
14:30 < fake> mount -t devfs none /dev
14:30 < fake> then scripts/Create-ISO...
14:30 < fake> then reboot ;)
14:30 < fooblah> ok - there are some packages i have to build... then i try it
14:30 < fake> okay
14:32 < blindcoder> 77 Packages failed
14:32 < fooblah> hmm... i can't play musik?
14:32 < blindcoder> most af them rene/*
14:32 < fooblah> since i make the mount ...
14:33 < blindcoder> cd /dev && ln -s sound/* .
14:34 < blindcoder> that should do the trick
14:34 < fooblah> yeah ;)
14:35 < fooblah> so what will happen if i reboot now?
14:35 < fake> nothing...
14:35 < fake> try it. if you created the iso, log ot
14:35 < fake> (Ctrl+D)
14:35 < fake> and try to login again ;)
14:35 < fake> after a reboot devfs will remain unmounted again, and your console devices will be in order.
14:36 < blindcoder> fake: 1753 today?
14:36 < fake> (among others)
14:36 < fake> 7331 ;)
14:36 < fake> blindcoder: yes, i assume so.
14:36 < blindcoder> the only script that needs devfs is Create-ISO
14:37 < blindcoder> and one of these days I'll patch it so it works with and without it
14:37 < fake> ... unfortunately. but i will no longer complain about it - it only annoyed me _once_ ;))
14:39 < fooblah> bash-2.05a# ./scripts/Download -cfg bootdisk termcap
14:39 < fooblah> ERROR: Unknown file: termcap.
14:39 < fooblah> hmm...?
14:40 < blindcoder>  ./scripts/Download -cfg bootdisk -required
14:40 < fake> termcap is no moreew
14:40 < fake> more
14:40 < fooblah> ok
14:40 < fake> we now use ncurses's termcap emulation
14:41 < fooblah> last package - gcc - i hope it will work
14:41 < fake> .. which brings new problems ;)
14:43 < blindcoder> root@se-sendling:/pvol14# ls -lh
14:43 < blindcoder> ls: illegal option -- h
14:43 < blindcoder> have I _ever_ menhioned how much I hate Solaris ?
14:45 < fake> hehe
14:45 < fake> do a ls --help
14:45 < fake> illegal option -- -
14:45 < fake> illegal option -- h
14:45 < fake> illegal option -- e
14:45 < fake> illegal option -- l
14:45 < fake> illegal option -- p
14:46 < blindcoder> yes, that, too....
14:46 < fake> hehe ;)
14:46 < fake> ls -abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz replaces --help...
14:46 < fake> count the ones left out
14:47 < blindcoder> &lol8 but what about uppercaseletters?
14:47 < blindcoder> sundance:~$ ls --help
14:47 < blindcoder> ls: illegal option -- -
14:47 < blindcoder> ls: illegal option -- h
14:47 < blindcoder> ls: illegal option -- e
14:47 < blindcoder> usage: ls -1RaAdCxmnlogrtucpFbqisfL [files]
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14:47 < blindcoder> hi bluefire
14:49 * blindcoder now X-forwarding  netscape, Mozilla, StarOffice and 2 gkrellms
14:50 < bluefire> hi blindcoder
14:57 < fake> alias ls='ls -1RaAdCxmnlogrtucpFbqisfL'
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15:01 < Mike1> moin\
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15:03 < Mike1> hackbard: moin
15:05 < hackbard> Mike1: moin du :)
15:13 < Mike1> <<< ping huebi >>>
15:13 < fooblah> Mike1: hi
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15:13 < Mike1> hi fooblah how are you today?
15:13 < Mike1> mmm...
15:17 < rolla> Mike1
15:17 < Mike1> hi rolla
15:17 < rolla> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/doc/binutils/asconfig.texi': No such file
15:18 < Mike1> uhh 0_o
15:18 < Mike1> ?
15:19 < rolla> stage 2 binutils died :(
15:19 < Mike1> 1.7?
15:19 < rolla> yup
15:21 < Mike1> i think its currently a normal issue on 1.7
15:21 < rolla> great
15:24 < blindcoder>          rolla deactivate automatic docu creatiion
15:24 < blindcoder> and it works fine
15:25 < blindcoder> argh.. typing still hard... need some... help...
15:25 < rolla> ?
15:25 < rolla> and how do I do that ?
15:26 < blindcoder> ./scripts/Config
15:26 < blindcoder> somewhere near the bottom
15:27 < rolla> yeah I found it thanks
15:28 < Mike1> hi blindy
15:28 < blindcoder> hmmm.. somehow... almost half of rene's packages are broken, or am I misteken?
15:28 < Mike1> blindcoder: i am fixing then now so do spect a patch flood later today
15:29 < blindcoder> sweet
15:29 < blindcoder> I have only ~75 failing packages and about 40 of them are rene/*
15:30 < Mike1> blindcoder: if there are just 40 i think i can fix then easily
15:31 < Mike1> or at least some of them :PP
15:31 < blindcoder> good , looking forward to it :)
15:31 < Mike1> blindcoder: lets see how it works
15:31 < Mike1> blindcoder: first i need to update his packages many of them are really out of date
15:32 < Mike1> then we will get them to build
15:32 < blindcoder> well... personally I thnk he's maintaining a few packages too much
15:32 < capone> hi
15:33 < blindcoder> hi capone
15:33 < fooblah|away> WARNING: Disk1 is not bootable - no boot options defined.
15:33 < fooblah|away> hmm...
15:33 -!- fooblah|away is now known as fooblah
15:33 < fooblah> why?! :/
15:34 < fooblah> bash-2.05a# ./scripts/Create-ISO bootdisk
15:34 < Mike1> blindcoder: i guess he is just busy with something else, dunno what but he is definitly busy
15:34 < fooblah> is there a mistake?
15:34 < blindcoder> fooblah: did you use the bootdisk target and have you told Create-ISO to use it?
15:34 < fooblah> blindcoder: yes
15:34 < Mike1> *gg*
15:35 < blindcoder> Wiit's a woman. They usually demand a _huge_ amount of time
15:35 < Mike1> fsck he is maintaining 170 packages
15:35 < blindcoder> fooblah: hmm... Strange
15:36 < blindcoder> Mike1: yes...
15:36 < Mike1> this will take me at least 3-4 days to just update all the broken links and update versions
15:37 < blindcoder> :(
15:37 < Mike1> blindcoder: i am just trying to be realistic
15:37 < Mike1> blindcoder: still i will see how much progress i can have today
15:37 < blindcoder> yes, I know... that's why I'm sad...
15:38 < blindcoder> I want to geget rid of debian on my router which will become my sparc32 Testmachine
15:39 < fooblah> hmm... ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg bootdisk - output:
15:39 < fooblah> Creating disk images:
15:39 < fooblah> mktemp: invalid option -- p
15:39 < fooblah> Usage: mktemp [-q] [-u] template
15:39 < fooblah> loop: can't open device /dev/loop/*: No such file or directory
15:39 < fooblah> !> No free loopback device found!
15:39 < blindcoder> hmm mktemppp I've seen that error before...
15:40 < Mike1> fooblah: does /dev/loop/* exist?
15:40 < fooblah> no
15:40 < Mike1> blindcoder: of course you need to have loopback support on ur kernel
15:40 < capone> mktemp: invalid option -- p -> that's a prob first
15:40 < Mike1> else it wont work
15:40 < fooblah> hmm... *confused* whats /dev/loop?
15:41 < Mike1> fooblah: you need to re-compile ur kernel
15:41 < capone> mktemp [-q] [-u] template
15:41 < fooblah> ok
15:41 < capone> in slack this is a problem too
15:41 < Mike1> fooblah: su , cd /usr/src/linux ; make menuconfig
15:41 < fooblah> i know how to build a kernel ;)
15:41 < blindcoder> edit scripts/Create-ISO and replace the two occurances of `mktemp` with "/tmp/tmp1" and "/tmp/tmp2"
15:41 < Mike1> fooblah: ok in block devices
15:41 < fake> fooblah: ./scripts/Create-ISO bootdisk otherconfig
15:42 < Mike1> enable the "loopback device support"
15:42 < Mike1> that will do the trick for you :)
15:42 < fooblah> it is enabled
15:42 < fake> fooblah: mounted devfs?
15:42 < fooblah> yes
15:42 < Mike1> fooblah: what linux distro do you use?
15:43 < fooblah> aeh mom
15:43 < fooblah> none on /dev type devfs (rw)
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15:43 < capone> hi capchaos :)
15:43 < fooblah> is this ok?
15:43 < Mike1> fooblah: /dev/loop exist?
15:43 < capchaos> hi capone
15:43 < Mike1> but not /dev/loop/* right?
15:43 < fooblah> no - but it is in the kernel
15:43 < fooblah> there is no dev/loop :(
15:44 < fooblah> ah sry it is
15:44 < Mike1> fooblah: re-compile ur kernel
15:44 < fooblah> there is: /dev/loop0 - /dev/loop15
15:44 < Mike1> and make sure the loopback device support is static not a module
15:44 < capone> the prob with this guy is mktemp version
15:44 < fooblah> it is static
15:44 < Mike1> fooblah: what distro are you using?
15:44 < fooblah> slackware 8.1
15:44 < capone> see !!!
15:44 < capone> how i said above !!
15:44 < fooblah> hmm... :(
15:45 < Mike1> ah
15:45 < Mike1> that the shit
15:45 < Mike1> cd /etc/
15:45 < fooblah> :(((
15:45 < fooblah> k
15:45 < capone> one need to use a different option to build in slack
15:45 < Mike1> vi devfsd.conf
15:45 < capone> to use mktemp
15:45 < fooblah> ok
15:45 < Mike1> LOOKUP loop/* MODLOAD
15:45 < Mike1> :)
15:45 < blindcoder> fooblah: regarding the mktemp problem: edit scripts/Create-ISO and replace the two occurances of `mktemp` with "/tmp/tmp1" and "/tmp/tmp2"
15:45 < capone> fooblah: try to compile a new mktemp binary
15:46 < capone> use the same version that rock has actually
15:47 < fooblah> ok scripts/Create-ISO is changed
15:48 < capone> nice
15:48 < fooblah> no loop/LOOP in /etc/devfsd.conf
15:48 < blindcoder> that should at least fix the mktemp problem
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15:48 < fooblah> yeah!!
15:48 < fooblah> it workz!! :D
15:48 < capone> :)
15:48 < fooblah> oh no
15:48 < Mike1> fooblah: add that line to ur devfsd.conf
15:48 < fooblah> it doesn't *gg*
15:49 < fooblah> the same problem with mktemp :(
15:49 < capone> Mike1: he already has loops in /dev/loop
15:49 < blindcoder> fooblah: ??
15:49 < Mike1> capano oldstyle loop
15:49 < Mike1> capone: *
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15:49 < blindcoder> you sure you have replaced both `mktemp` ?
15:49 < Mike1> kike loopX
15:49 < capone> ic
15:49 < Mike1> not as in loop/
15:50 < Mike1> that line will do the tric for him so in staed of loopX he will have loop/X
15:50 < fooblah> ok
15:50 < fooblah> i changed it
15:50 < Mike1> which is what he needs
15:50 < fooblah> blindcoder: yes i'm sure
15:50 < Mike1> fooblah: you will have to restart devfsd
15:50 < blindcoder> fooblah: be sure to not use the same filename twice... that will screw up
15:51 < Mike1> if it doesnt work you will have to do a painfull reboot
15:51 < blindcoder> hmm.... strange
15:51 < fooblah> how can i restart the devfsd?
15:51 < fooblah> umount?
15:51 < blindcoder> killall -HUP devfsd
15:51 < fooblah> killal?
15:51 < fooblah> ah ok
15:51 < fooblah> bash-2.05a# killall -HUP devfsd
15:51 < fooblah> devfsd: no process killed
15:51 < fooblah> :(
15:51 < fooblah> i restart
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15:52 < blindcoder> then it simply is not running
15:52 < blindcoder> hmm... 2l8
15:52 < Mike1> blindcoder: perhaps he didnt compile his kernel with devfs support on his kernel
15:52 < capone> :pp
15:53 < Mike1> still slackware is such crap
15:53 < blindcoder> hmm it should be enough to create a few symlinks then
15:53 < blindcoder> cd /dev
15:53 < Mike1> blindcoder: ack
15:53 < blindcoder> mkdir loop
15:53 < blindcoder> cd loop
15:53 < blindcoder> for x in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ; do ln -s ../loop$x $x ; done
15:53 < Mike1> blindcoder: yes but still that would not be the best solution
15:54 < Mike1> at least not a clean solution
15:54 < blindcoder> doesn't matter. he won't have that installation for a long time anyways
15:54 < Mike1> *gggg*
15:54 < blindcoder> anymore
15:55 < blindcoder> he should make it clean mhen ROCK is installed. Everything else is irrelevant. We are the Borg.
15:56 < Mike1> true who cares about a lame slackware system
15:56 < capone> for x in `seq 1 1 9`; do ln -s ../loop$x $x ; done
15:56 < capone> :)
15:56 < blindcoder> seq? I don't know that... seems to be worth a look
15:57 < capone> trake it, it's very useful
15:57 < capone> trake/take
15:57 < blindcoder> oh... sweet!
15:58 < blindcoder> finally a clean wayinstead of 1 2 3 ... <infinite>
15:58 < capone> Mike1: why not take care about other Build environments?
15:58 < capone> like slackware
15:58 < blindcoder> capone: his build is finished. he just needs ho create the iso...
15:59 < blindcoder> hmm... maybe I'll patch Create-ISO today to finally work with non-devfs systems
15:59 < blindcoder> IIRC it's the only script that really needs it
16:00 < Mike1> because ""distributions"" like slackware are always really out of date, give several problems for having considerable differences with rock, and simply its not worth it
16:00 < Mike1> blindcoder: still there is nothing like a ROCK system to build ROCK linux
16:01 < capone> blindcoder: rescue, install-disks and those bootable targets also need it
16:01 < capone> iirc
16:01 < blindcoder> hmm... right... I think I've seen it there... but it shouldn't be too much work....
16:01 < blindcoder> Mike1: correct :)
16:02 < blindcoder> capone: a simple `if [ -e /dpv/loop/0 ] ; then ` should suffice
16:03 < capone> i think so
16:03 < capone> :)
16:03 < blindcoder> But I can't make it from here... I'm already busy enough keeping ssh via https-proxy running >_<
16:03 -!- capone is now known as d3mian
16:04 < blindcoder> hmm and I think I'll get myself another cup of coffee
16:04 < d3mian> i leave right now
16:04 < d3mian> cya
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16:05 < blindcoder> I _really_ have to find another solution t connect to my morkstation @home
16:07 < blindcoder> WS@work --> another solaris-WS --> proxy via transconnect --> pseudo-shell-server@buergernetz --> my router@home --> my WS@home
16:08 < blindcoder> and there I wonder about my backspace-key showing strange behaviour...
16:09 < blindcoder> brb
16:12 < blindcoder> re
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16:14 < owl> moin
16:14 < capchaos> hello owl
16:14 < Mike1> hi sed
16:14 < owl> hi capchaos, Mike1
16:15 < blindcoder> hi owly!
16:15 < owl> eh, owl != application
16:15 < owl> moin blindy
16:15 < blindcoder> sed?
16:15 < Mike1> owl: who said i was refering to the sed package :)
16:15 < owl> Mike1: don't say it!
16:15 < Mike1> owl: no i wont tell no worries
16:15 < owl> thx
16:15 < blindcoder> what's owl got to do with sed?
16:16 < Mike1> blindcoder: nothing just a joke between owlita and i
16:16 < owl> blindcoder: how is it at work? i have spare time since 12:45 h ;PPPP
16:16 < blindcoder> owl :P
16:17 < blindcoder> that means I can't bug you at the train today?
16:17 < owl> blindcoder: *g* of course not... it's tuesday... you remeber... school-time... ;P
16:17 < blindcoder> oh, I forgot >_<
16:17 < blindcoder> then I'll do so on Thursday :)
16:18 < owl> blindcoder: why thursday? aren't you on train tomorrow0ß
16:18 < owl> =?
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16:21 < blindcoder> no, I'm going by car tomorrowm
16:21 < owl> blindcoder: uhm. why so? a bit lazy? ;P
16:21 < blindcoder> meeting that will most likely take until 2330 again
16:22 < owl> omg! have fun then...
16:22 < blindcoder> I will! Boss pays for all the food and drinks :(
16:22 < blindcoder> :)
16:23 < owl> blindcoder: *g*
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16:23 < capone> re
16:23 < capone> Mike1
16:23 < blindcoder> In essence, my whole camapany (7 people) meet and talk and have fun :)
16:23 < owl> re capone
16:23 < capone> im talking with daniel
16:23 < blindcoder> re cappy
16:23 < owl> bussiness meeting or more or less "private" meeting?
16:24 < capone> Mike1: he said me u never called him to agree about the router.. finally he bought a cisco one and the guy of my uni configured it
16:24 < capone> hi owl
16:25 < blindcoder> owl: a private businezss weeting :)
16:25 < blindcoder> no one has to attend but anyone who does usually has fun and lunch for free :)
16:26 < owl> blindcoder: *lol*
16:26 < blindcoder> so far I've only missed one meeting due to illness
16:27 < owl> uh. in three years you missed _one_ meeting???
16:29 < blindcoder> in 5 months
16:29 < fake> *lol*
16:29 < blindcoder> I'm with this company since July
16:30 < blindcoder> fake: ??
16:30 < owl> ah so.
16:31 < owl> moin fake, btw.
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16:35 < capone> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2002/11/07/linux_threads.html
16:36 < esden> re hi all
16:36 < owl> moin esden
16:36 < esden> hi owl
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16:40 < blindcoder> hi esden
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16:40 * capchaos likes ion
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16:43 < capone> hi esden
16:44 < esden> hi blindcoder 
16:44 < esden> hi capone 
16:45 < capone> cya
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16:46 < blindcoder> 559 builds total, 485 completed fine, 74 with errors.
16:50 < esden> hmm ... i think it is comparable with my results
16:51 < blindcoder> well most of it is renes stuff ( I keep repeating myself)
16:55 < esden> blindcoder: that is the same observation that I had
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16:57 < blindcoder> esden: okay, then I'm relieved and start a pentium4 build now and after that a k6-2 build and will reinstall my box on the weekend hopefully
16:58 * blindcoder now going home
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17:10 < litost> hi everyone
17:10 < owl> hi litost
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17:10 < litost> how are you today owl?
17:11 < owl> litost: great. thx. and you?
17:11 < litost> awake and suprisingly productive :)
17:12 < owl> hehe :) why so? what are you doing?
17:12 < litost> i got 8 hours of sleep for one thing 8)
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17:13 < litost> i'm working on j2ee stuff for werk
17:13 < owl> litost: haha ;P who needs so much sleep? don't you prefer the black rings under your eyes? ;P
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17:13 < holyolli> moin
17:13 < owl> litost: congratulations... you re working ;P
17:13 < owl> hi holyolli
17:13 < holyolli> hi owl
17:14 < Mike1> litost: hello my working friend
17:14 < owl> my eyes! i'm dying!
17:15 < owl> what horrible website is that?!!! the design is killing me! http://www.worldwidepunk.com/interviews/SOIA/
17:15 < litost> owl:  though black rings look sexy on a geek, i have a date tonight with a non-geek and i'm trying to impress ;)
17:15 < owl> litost: *ggg* have fun then ;P+#
17:15 < litost> Miguel!
17:15 < litost> thanks owl =)
17:16 < owl> you are welcome ;P
17:16 < fake> litost: what does a non-geek look like? i can't remember... ?
17:16 < fake> ;)
17:17 < esden> re fake 
17:17 < litost> hehe...go outside :)
17:17 < esden> litost: you mean the big blue room ?
17:17 < litost> esden: yep, the concrete jungle
17:18 < fake> the one with the lightning fast rendering..
17:18 < litost> and antialiasing
17:19 < esden> and an amazing resolution ! 
17:19 < fake> and force feedback
17:19 < esden> how much was it once more ?
17:19 < fake> and emotion engine(tm)
17:19 < litost> and 10^7 refresh rates
17:19 < esden> yes 
17:20 < Mike1> owl: wanna see a _REALLY_ ugly webdesign?
17:20 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba44ad.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux
17:20 < Mike1> http://www.thecrichtongroup.biz/
17:21 < Mike1> check it out owly
17:21 < Mike1> thats what i call SUCK
17:23 < owl> wtf is _that_???
17:23 < Mike1> :)
17:23 < owl> but more horrible imho: http://www.neuburg.net
17:23 < Mike1> http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/
17:23 < Mike1> :)
17:23 < owl> let's start the contest of having a look to the most horrible website of the www ;P
17:24 < fake> www.hamsterdance.de ?
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17:27 < litost> owl: did you see that bit about Craig from SOIA being in a porn? :)
17:27 < owl> litost: nope.
17:28 < litost> at any rate it's at the end of that interview on that link you posted
17:28 * litost is a SOIA fan
17:28 < owl> :) do you own the song "closed"?
17:29 < owl> (as mp3 or so...?)
17:29 < litost> hmmm...don't think so
17:30 < litost> unfortunately, some bastard broke into my car and stole a bunch of my CD's...SOIA being one of them
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17:30 * fake -> train
17:30 < fake> l8ters
17:30 < owl> :-//
17:30 < owl> bye fake. viel spass in der schule morgen
17:31 < owl> litost: if you want you can download some songs from me ... tomorrow or so... (if i converted the "dive in a dive" songs to mp3...)
17:33 < litost> owl:  that would be great, thanks!!  i'll be here more often the next few days.
17:34 < owl> litost: you re welcome ;) ok. i will send you the link, then.
17:35 < litost> owl:  i'll make some mp3's if you're interested of a local band that has it's roots in SOIA
17:35 < owl> yes. why not ;) thx a lot
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17:37 < litost> I think you'll like them.  i'll send a link tomorrow
17:37 < owl> ok. thank you. what style of music is it? hardcore? punk?
17:37 < litost> it's definately old school hardcore
17:39 < litost> short songs, fast guitars and drums, with a catchy melody and all kinds of singalong fun :)
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17:43 < owl> :))
17:43 < owl> do you know system of a down, too?
17:44 < Mike1> owlycity?
17:44 < owl> toxcity ;P
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17:45 < litost> ummm...heard of them, but i haven't really listened to them much
17:45 < owl> tstststs... ;) that's bad...
17:46 < litost> i used to do a radio show at school and i remember playing them once ;)
17:46 < litost> it's metal, right?
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17:47 < owl> yes it's metal
17:47 < owl> nu-metal or so...
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17:55 < owl> re
17:56 < capchaos> re owl
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18:01 < owl> hi tcr
18:01 < tcr> moin all
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18:18 < huebi> Moin
18:18 < owl> moin huebi
18:18 < huebi> moin owl
18:18 < owl> wie geht's dir?
18:18 < esden> hi huebi 
18:18 < huebi> muede
18:18 < huebi> hi esden
18:19 < owl> ist die krups schon weg?
18:19 * -> esden ist gerade aufgewacht als er auf der tastatur eingepennt ist
18:19 < huebi> owl: Leider noch nicht. Ich bin noch an den Installationsdisketten.
18:19 < owl> guten morgen esden... ;)
18:19 < owl> huebi: oki. macht nix. wann wird sie in etwa "rausgehen"?
18:20 < esden> morgen morgen >_<
18:20 * owl needs a tuete deutsch
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18:26 < rolla> crap gcc3 just died :(
18:26 < esden> ahh coffee
18:28 < holyolli> .oO(good idea...)
18:28 < holyolli> hi esden, btw.
18:28 < holyolli> ;)
18:29 * tcr brb
18:31 < esden> hi holyolli 
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18:46 < owl> moin fooblah
18:46 < fooblah> owl: hiho
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18:52 < fooblah> hmm... i still got the error: No free loopback device found and mktemp :/
18:54 < esden> *yawn*
18:54 < owl> esden: geh' ins bett ;P
18:54 * -> esden drinks coffee
18:55 < fooblah> *hrhr*
18:58 < tcr> re all
19:01 < esden> re tcr 
19:08 < esden> woot: http://www.deviantart.com/view/748405
19:10 < huebi> Mike1: moin. Do zou test a mail bomb program? *g*
19:10 < huebi> [5 new messages! Most recent from Miguel A. Bolanos]
19:10 < Mike1> lol
19:10 < Mike1> hi huebi
19:10 < Mike1> huebi: expect 11 more
19:11 < Mike1> 9 more*
19:11 < Mike1> :P
19:11 < esden> huebi: these are 13 msg's from Miguel A. Bolanos
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19:11 < Mike1> huebi: whats the status on the install disks?
19:12 < Mike1> esden: what cant i send patches sometimes?
19:12 < Mike1> *gg*
19:12 < huebi> Mike1: still not working. But I work hard on that issue.
19:12 < Mike1> esden: btw they were 14 total
19:12 < Mike1> huebi: ok
19:12 < esden> ah ... so I have to wait for the last one ;-)
19:13 < esden> ahh there is the last one
19:13 < Mike1> esden: huebi spect another mail bomb in a couple of hours maybe it will be bigger
19:13 < Mike1> :P
19:13 < esden> tztztz
19:14 < Mike1> huebi: how are you today btw?
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19:14 < huebi> Mike1: tired. These install-disk stuff is very confusing.
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19:15 < Mike1> whats the problem?
19:16 < Mike1> ok i am going to get my self something to eat
19:17 < tcr> good luck
19:17 * Mike1 is away: having lunch with his lady :)
19:23 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
19:23 < owl> moin moin blindcoder
19:23 < esden> woot my desktop looks pretty good now
19:24 < esden> hmm ... deviantart rulez ;-)
19:27 < huebi> esden: What's up with the LCD patch?
19:31 < blindcoder> damn... need to reboot
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19:33 < esden> huebi: not yet there ...
19:33 < huebi> esden: why?
19:34 < huebi> esden: or better whjen will it be?
19:35 < esden> no time ... no idea when it will be ... when I have time to look at it ... i thought some time ago that I will have time to look at it ... but as you can see I am not sending any patches to no tree not the 1.7 and not the 1.5 ... -> no time >_<
19:36 < huebi> esden <- needs a time expander...
19:36 < esden> yes that is true
19:37 * tcr eatin
19:38 < SMP> *muahaha*
19:38 < SMP> YES, BIND 4/8 is screwed again
19:39 < huebi> SMP: LOL
19:39 < owl> moin SMP
19:39 < huebi> SMP: What do you think about replaceing bind with djbdns in 1.5.20?
19:40 < SMP> DON'T
19:40 < huebi> ?
19:40 < Mike1> hi SMP
19:41 < Mike1> huebi: keep bind please :)
19:41 < SMP> djbdns is not a complete replacement and people should be able to run BIND if they want to.
19:41 < huebi> license conform I mean. as source for building it yourself (I think it should better staz an extension.)
19:44 < SMP> well we can put the djbdns-1.05.tar.gz on the cdrom
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19:46 < huebi> SMP: I suggest /usr/src/djbdns as source directory.
19:46 < huebi> no
19:47 < huebi> better to all the other packages in opt-archive.
19:47 < SMP> yes
19:48 * Mike1 is back (gone 00:31:28)
19:49 < Mike1> huebi: BTW dont worry about the updates i made for 1.7 tree packages i will take care of updating them as well in 1.5 later today
19:49 < esden> huebi: when will be 1.6 out ?
19:50 < huebi> esden: When your patches for LCD apply cleanly and work perfect.\
19:50 < Mike1> *ggg*
19:51 < esden> no ... LCD patch is not essentias ... that is not as showstopping feature ... so when you want to release it and I am not ready with the patch remove the sutff that is it
19:51 < esden> s,essentias,essential,
19:52 < esden> ok I ask once more ... when is the 1.6 deadline ?
19:52 < huebi> esden: It's afeature added in december. So feel free to finish your work. I can really wait for it.
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19:53 < esden> ok ... you are the maintainer of the tree
19:53 < blindcoder> re
19:53 < esden> re blindcoder 
19:54 < huebi> esden: Also the install disks are broken because of the bigger kernel and the more modules added.
19:54 < huebi> btw. how want's to make silo devfs aware?
19:55 < huebi> who even
19:55 < esden> huebi: you ? ;-)
19:56 < huebi> esden: When? Too many people left there crap as it was in 1.5.12. So I must first fix that.
19:56 < huebi> their even.
19:57 < huebi> :-)
19:57 < esden> yes ... right ...
19:57 < blindcoder> huebi: then fix that crap, release 1.6 and addd features _then_
19:57 < esden> and what is still not working and not a showstopper remove it ...
19:57 < esden> and/or disable
19:58 < huebi> blindcoder: Fixing is making features reliable. at least in 1.5
19:58 < esden> 1.6 should be out for many months
19:58 < huebi> esden: LCD should have been finished in january
19:59 < esden> yes ... that is right ... but when it is not there ... is it so bad ? is it a showstopper ... ?
19:59 < esden> NO 
19:59 < blindcoder> huebi: sure... but why do you need gnome2? xfs? and anything else that's been added over the past few moths?
19:59 < Mike1> blindcoder: gnome2 has not been aded to 1.5
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20:00 < Mike1> blindcoder: at least not yet
20:00 < blindcoder> Mike1:  not? I thought it was... Sorry! My mistake!
20:00 < huebi> blindcoder: Just send me your patches for Gnome 1.4 to build on sparc64.
20:00 < Mike1> blindcoder: i have it on my own personal 1.5 tree but not on the official tree
20:00 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:/usr/src/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Create-ISO -size 700 x86 x86-boot x86
20:00 < huebi> blindcoder: Do I get them tonight??
20:00 < blindcoder>   [20:02:06] Removing old files with same prefix ..
20:00 < blindcoder>   [20:02:07] Reading configs and creating ISO index ...
20:00 < blindcoder>                 Shared:   33188 kB in  2624 files
20:00 < blindcoder>                 Disk 1:  683824 kB in   611 files  (boot)
20:00 < blindcoder>                 Disk 2:  558836 kB in   265 files
20:01 < blindcoder>                 Total:  1275848 kB in  3500 files
20:01 < blindcoder> huebi: most certainly not. I never tried to compile 1.5 on/for sparc64
20:01 < blindcoder> I took 1.7 and within a week it booted via nfs on my Ultra...
20:02 < huebi> blindcoder: Gnome 1.4 is _not_ possible on sparc64 without heavily patching it.
20:02 < Decayer> who is the guy from Sweden ?
20:02 < tcr> anders?
20:02 < huebi> LocalHero.
20:02 < Decayer> ok
20:03 < [anders]> narf
20:03 < blindcoder> Then deactivate either Sparc64 or Gnome for Ultra.
20:03 * [anders] will soon head off to drive g/f to church.. Will do work tonight on rock-gnome2 though.. For as long as I have time.. 
20:03 < blindcoder> We need a stable 1.6 if for nothing else than publicity.
20:04 < Mike1> huhu [anders]
20:04 < [anders]> trying to check out / update the rock-1.5 repository a.t.m.
20:04 < huebi> Do you all remember the flame about linux* a few months ago?
20:04 < [anders]> huhu Mike1
20:04 < [anders]> huhu huebi
20:04 < huebi> hi [anders]
20:04 < blindcoder> not really... micht have it in the archive though
20:04 < [anders]> only stopping briefly.. in fact, heading off out right this very moment..
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20:06 < huebi> It took my time for rock for 3 months. Nobody contributed to it to fix it. So if somebody wants to have 1.6 out faster just send patches to fix the broken stuff.
20:12 * SMP sighs deeply
20:12 * -> esden *no comment*
20:13 < fooblah> huebi: where do you from?
20:14 < Mike1> huebi: full ack
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20:15 < esden> re blindcoder 
20:16 < blindcoder> "dumb move. You strained a muscle."
20:17 < blindcoder> accidentally switched to framebuffer-console with the nvidia-kernel-module loaded >_<
20:24 < esden> huebi: could you please send me the lcd patch that I gave you at rock devel meeting ?
20:24 < tcr> lcd?
20:24 < tcr> blindcoder: the nvidia fb driver sucks!
20:25 < esden> tcr: blindcoder has fixed frequency monitors ... he has to use framebuffer ...
20:25 < huebi> esden: Yes, I send it to you as fast as possible. It's now in the office but I have it here online when I come back from the office.
20:25 < esden> ok ... I can not find the patch on my harddisk ... 
20:25 < tcr> esden: VESA driver is much better, though slowlier
20:26 < esden> hmm ... ok ... 
20:26 * -> esden is lucky not to have nvidia stuff in his box ;-)
20:27 < esden> so I have no problems wich this crap ;-)
20:27 < huebi> binutils-2.13.90.0.10, bison-1.75, e2fsprogs-1.32, python-2.2.2 built without any problems.
20:27 < huebi> rpm is still running...
20:28 < huebi> 4.1
20:29 < blindcoder> tcr: yes, but give me an asternative for using OpenGL
20:29 < tcr> opengl with fb? uh
20:29 < huebi> blindcoder: SGI drivers?
20:30 < huebi> tcr: hehe, I'd like to to have an OpenGL emulation for the xvfb. *gg*
20:33 < blindcoder> tcr: no, X
20:34 < huebi> blindcoder: SGI has some very nice OpenGL drivers for NVidia cards.
20:35 < blindcoder> hmm
20:35 < blindcoder> maybe worth a look
20:37 * paperclip is away: reading the fart book to my kid
20:37 * blindcoder needs te re-build MySQL
20:38 < esden> ok ... my lcd is reattached now ... and running
20:38 < huebi> esden: Thank you very much for doing that. :-))))
20:39 < esden> huebi: denada ...
20:39 < blindcoder> hmm... that's the fifth package I need to re-build...
20:39 < Mike1> weee!!! esden cool
20:44 < esden> ok getting 1.5 sources
20:45 < esden> i mean packet sources ...
20:45 < huebi> hmm. A slightly overclocked Celeron (Mendocino) with 450 MHz is _way_ to slow for Rocklinux compile runs.
20:45 < esden> so I have something to test
20:46 < blindcoder> huebi: I'm goieng to compile ROCK an a Dual-50MHz-SparcStation20 so don't complain :)
20:47 < huebi> blindcoder: Be carefull. SMP seems to be broken on sparc. the flistwrapper does not get all files.
20:47 < blindcoder> hmm... then I'll rip one processor out, put it into the SS10 and start a cluster-build :)
20:48 * huebi compiling 1.5 on a 50MHz SparcClassic since 3 days. expected time: 38 days *ggg*
20:48 < blindcoder> sweet
20:48 < huebi> rpm-4.1 also compiles.
20:49 < huebi> my SparcStation IPC is broken. That would be the longest time Rocklinux would have been build.
20:51 < blindcoder> hmm... I have an IPX
20:51 < huebi> <AOL> me too, me too </AOL>
20:52 < huebi> gnome-python-1.4.2 rebuilt, too.
20:53 < blindcoder> AARRGGHH
20:53 < blindcoder> HHUUEEBBII
20:54 < huebi> blindcoder: Yes, what's up ?
20:54 < blindcoder> pkg-remove should _entirely_ _refuse_ to remove mysql
20:54 < blindcoder> root@crazyhorse:~# ls -l /etc/passwd
20:54 < blindcoder> ls: /etc/passwd: No such file or directory
20:55 < huebi> blindcoder: Argh. But thank zou for that bugreport.
20:55 < Mike1> blindcoder: got some news for you
20:56 < blindcoder> huebi: no... problem...
20:56 < blindcoder> Mike1: hm?
20:56 < Mike1> blindcoder: i will finish the pkg version updates on rene's tree today :)
20:57 < blindcoder> Mike1: fes, I've seen about a dozen updates sent by you
20:57 < blindcoder> Mike1: nice work. thanks!
20:57 < Mike1> blindcoder: btw do spect anyther mail bomp in a moment :)
20:58 < blindcoder> hehe
20:58 * Mike1 thinking who's tree will be next ...
20:58 * blindcoder currently trying to re-create his /etc/passwd
20:58 < blindcoder> I have no name!@crazyhorse:~$
20:59 < huebi> blindcoder: do zou need an /etc/passwd?
21:00 < blindcoder> huebi: that would be nice, so I know at least what users I have to create
21:00 < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$
21:00 < huebi> blindcoder: mom
21:00 < blindcoder> ah, better
21:09 < huebi> I search a new maintainer for mysql in 1.5. It's completly broken and skaar does not do anything on it.
21:09 < blindcoder> brb
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21:13 < blindcoder> re
21:13 < Mike1> huebi: i will maintain it
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21:18 < owl> oh gott. der tsa. hi
21:18 < tsa> tag
21:18 < tsa> hehe
21:19 < tsa> hi owl. *hug*
21:19 < tsa> *G*
21:19 < Mike1> hi tsa
21:19 < tsa> hi Mike1
21:19 < owl> ... der tsa kommt nicht allein... ein hug kommt mit herein...
21:19 < tsa> hast du gesoffen?
21:19 < owl> tsa: *lol* nein. bin nur gut gelaunt, warum?
21:19 < tsa> hehe
21:19 < tsa> das ist gut.
21:20 < owl> ;)
21:20 < owl> wie geht's, channel-fast-opa...
21:20 < tsa> hehe..gut eigentlich
21:21 < owl> tsa: ;) gut so
21:22 < tsa> owl: deine froehlichkeit verwirrt mich...haben Mike1 und du endlich zueinandergefunden?
21:22 < tsa> *duck*
21:23 < huebi> re
21:23 < tsa> moin huebi
21:23 < huebi> moin tsa
21:23 < Mike1> tsa: no molestes ya sabes que ella es toda tuya
21:24 < owl> tsa: *lol* nein, nur eine reihe buecher von nietsche und hesse und k.a. einfach alles :)
21:24 < Mike1> re huebi
21:24 < huebi> tsa: rechnug kommt naechste Woche.
21:24 < owl> tach huebi
21:24 < tsa> huebi: hehe...das glaub ich erst, wenn ich die auf dem tisch hab ;-)
21:24 < tsa> was macht 1.5.20?
21:24 * huebi just commiting a huge bunch of changes/fixes.
21:24 < Mike1> huebi: if you like i will maintain mysql
21:25 < huebi> Mike1: reat. yes, please do it.
21:25 < huebi> +G
21:25 < Mike1> huebi: ok thanks :)
21:26 < Mike1> and btw please let me when commit is finished
21:27 < huebi> Mike1: ack
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21:34 < esden> woot! : http://www.esden.net/desktops/shots/rock-on-desktop.png
21:34 < esden> new cool desktop design by esden ;-)
21:35 < blindcoder> SHIT FUCKING
21:35 < esden> ?
21:35 < blindcoder> why the fuck can't I compile mysql??
21:35 < esden> o_O
21:37 < blindcoder> I get fucking errors mith unresolved sfmbols in libstdc++.so.5
21:38 < esden> hmm ... unresolved symbols is the always returning problem ...
21:38 < esden> but i do not know a fix for it ...
21:40 < blindcoder> when updating the glibc seems to have been a bad idea for "everyday things"
21:41 < blindcoder> and it's quarter to ten again already
21:41 < blindcoder> need to pick up drachi tomorrow...
21:42 < blindcoder> make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/mysql-3.23.51/sql'
21:42 < blindcoder> g++ -DMYSQL_SERVER                      -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME="\"/opt/mysql/\""                  -DDATADIR="\"/opt/mysql//var\""                         -DSHAREDIR="\"/opt/mysql//share/mysql\""                  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I./../include                  -I./../regex                    -I. -I../include -I.. -I.    -O3 -DDBUG_OFF   -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -c sql_lex.cc
21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc: In function `void lex_init()':
21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc:85: `symbols' undeclared (first use this function)
21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc:85: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each
21:42 < blindcoder>    function it appears in.)
21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc:87: `sql_functions' undeclared (first use this function)
21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc: In function `int find_keyword(LEX*, unsigned int, bool)':
21:42 < blindcoder> sql_lex.cc:168: `get_hash_symbol' undeclared (first use this function)
21:42 < blindcoder> WHY? WHY? WHY?
21:42 < blindcoder> make[3]: *** [sql_lex.o] Error 1
21:43 < blindcoder> can anyone compile a static mysql 3 for me?
21:44 < blindcoder> hmm... idea
21:48 < blindcoder> how can I make the mysqld listen on tcp?
21:49 < esden> blindcoder: why have you to pickup her ?
21:49 < blindcoder> esden: she doesn't want to go by train alone. how can I make the mysqld listen on tcp?
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21:50 < esden> blindcoder: hmm ... you ask me really good questions ... no idea ... it is too long time I have set up mysql
21:52 < huebi> blindcoder: ./configure --with-tcp-port=3306
21:52 < capone> hi
21:52 < huebi> moin capone
21:53 < capone> :)
21:53 < Mike1> re capone
21:53 < esden> hi capone 
21:53 < capone> it's interesting to know linuxthreads will be integrated in 2.6 kernels
21:55 < blindcoder> huebi: not compiletime
21:55 < blindcoder> huebi: I want to start it
21:55 < blindcoder> I added --port=3306 but it ignores it
21:57 < huebi> blindcoder: hmm. I don't know.
22:00 < fooblah> hmm...
22:00 < capone> fooblah: what did u do with ur mktemp prob ?
22:00 < fooblah> gcc3.2 will not work with march=athlon-tbird
22:01 < fooblah> capone: i wanted to make all again...
22:01 < esden> rofl ! : http://www.deviantart.com/view/252072
22:01 < fooblah> but now.. everything goes wrong
22:01 < capone> u dunt have to make it all again
22:01 < fooblah> caopne: i've done all the things who was said...
22:01 < capone> if u already built a new kernel and rock linux, u should have a mktemp binary which will help u to make ur install disks
22:02 < fooblah> the mktemp is not so important... the building is my problem cause there are some problems...
22:02 < fooblah> fist gcc don't want to accept the flag march=athlon-tbird
22:02 < capone> like ?
22:02 < fooblah> so all others programs after gcc aren't used/compiled...
22:03 < fooblah> i wait until there's a new release and hope it will work...
22:03 < capone> umm
22:03 < fooblah> <<begins to give up... :/
22:05 < capone> try other architecture
22:05 < capone> generic ones, i586-pc.. etc
22:05 < capone> now i have to leave again, cya
22:05 < fooblah> hmm... i try athlon
22:05 < fooblah> capone: cya
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22:06 < blindcoder> esden: can you  test  scavenger.homeip.net if you get any errors?
22:07 < esden> mom
22:07 < esden> this flash is cool: http://www.deviantart.com/view/518472
22:07 < blindcoder> don't have flash installed
22:07 < esden> yes I know you have not ... because of your strange ... "ueberzeugungen"
22:08 < blindcoder> esden: okay nevermind. tested it from apollo and it works
22:08 < esden> yes ... I am testing it at the moment and it works too
22:08 < esden> I thought you wanted me to surf a bit ... because of the new mysql
22:09 * Mike1 preparing another mail bomb to the mailing list
22:10 < esden> Mike1: urgh!
22:10 < Mike1> esden: this one is even bigger :) *vbeg*
22:10 < esden> *sigh*
22:10 < esden> ;-)
22:11 < Mike1> better a mail bomb full of patches than flame full of crap dont you think?
22:11 < blindcoder> esden: oh.. okay, thanks :)
22:12 < esden> hmm ... not bad : http://www.deviantart.com/view/356718
22:12 < blindcoder> I just moved the web and mysql to sundance, the Dual-50MHz-SparcStatios20 :)
22:13 < esden> ehhm .. I thought you wanted to move everything to a intel box so you can use the sparcstation for compiling ...
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22:13 < blindcoder> esden: yes, but I need a 1.7 Iso for that first
22:14 < blindcoder> it currently displays a nice "No Oprating System found" after POST
22:14 < esden> woooooot that is coool !!! http://www.deviantart.com/view/672632
22:14 < blindcoder> I just wait for Mikes Patches te get into cvs and compile it then
22:16 < esden> quote from the deviantart site: \
22:16 < esden> " Slackwear is GAY! How can anyone still use such outdated crap. Hey buddy, here is clue: everyon ewith brain has switched to modern distribution like Mandrake or Gentoo, not outdated non-rpm bullshit like Slackware."
22:16 < Mike1> blindcoder: i will mail then in no longer than 5 minutes
22:16 < blindcoder> esden: yes, I read it >_<
22:17 < Mike1> BWAHAHAHA
22:17 < owl> esden: *lol* rpm...... hahahahahaha!
22:17 < Mike1> where did you get that crap?
22:17 < blindcoder> Mike1: sweet. I, however, do to sleep now
22:17 < owl> ouch.
22:17 < owl> gn8 blindcoder
22:17 < Mike1> blindcoder: you sure?
22:17 < blindcoder> I've scremed up enough for one day
22:17 < Mike1> blindcoder: ok
22:17 < blindcoder> good night, everyone!
22:17 < esden> blindcoder: sleep well
22:20 < Mike1> blindcoder: oyasumi nasai !
22:21 < fooblah> hmm...
22:21 < fooblah> "outdated" aha...
22:21 < fooblah> "non-rpm" rofl
22:22 < fooblah> yeah "klick_klick"
22:22 < fooblah> i love slackware
22:22 < Mike1> though i wouldnt use slackware
22:22 < fooblah> and i never kill my slack partition
22:22 < Mike1> :)
22:22 < esden> yes slackware rulez ... mandrake and gentoo sux
22:22 < tsa> anyone still running bind 8.x?
22:22 < esden> tsa: ;-)
22:22 < fooblah> esden: yeah :)
22:22 < huebi> tsa: No, only 9.1.3
22:22 < tsa> http://bvlive01.iss.net/issEn/delivery/xforce/alertdetail.jsp?oid=21469
22:22 * Mike1 moved from slackware to rock and will never _ever_ go back
22:22 < tsa> once again... *sigh*
22:23 < esden> but what rulez the most : rock linux 1.7
22:23 < tsa> esden: 2.0 is better.
22:23 < tsa> (you'll just have to code it before you can test it..
22:23 < tsa> )
22:23 < esden> bloody cutting edge world domination and ruling software ;-)
22:23 < esden> tsa: correct
22:23 < huebi> *g*
22:31 < esden> holy shitt ... : http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?Library=4&SkinID=197
22:31 < huebi> djb tool sources are now in opt-archive.
22:31 < esden> why is it for xp ? !!!
22:32 < tsa> uhm..a probably stupid question..
22:32 < tsa> how do i upate 1.7 via cvs?
22:33 < tsa> i only know the update mechanism with rsync.
22:33 < Mike1> tsa: cvs -z 9 -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs checkout -P rock-src-1.7
22:33 < esden> cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co rock-src-1.7
22:34 < tsa> thx.
22:34 < esden> and then normally with cvs -z3 -q up -Pd
22:35 < tsa> hm..
22:35 < tsa> cvs up? i do not remember having write access to that repository..
22:36 < tsa> (i don
22:36 < huebi> tsa: Zou don\t need.
22:36 < tsa> 't remember seeing this cvs server mentioned on the mailing list, either..)
22:36 < huebi> it's pserver.
22:37 < tsa> i'm not really familiar with cvs - where's the difference.
22:37 < tsa> let's assume i change something and "cvs up; cvs ci"....what will happen?
22:37 < huebi> tsa: nothing.
22:38 < tsa> that's not much.
22:38 < tsa> is there any sense in doing cvs up at all?
22:38 < huebi> the pserver user has only the right to co and up
22:38 < tsa> which means i can "up" any changes and clifford has to commit them by hand?
22:39 < esden> cvs up is for updating your repository on your harddrive
22:39 < huebi> up - update. You don't need to co all again.
22:39 < tsa> ah, i see.
22:40 < tsa> did clifford ever mention how to access his cvs?
22:40 < huebi> Mike1: cvs is now up to date.
22:40 < Mike1> huebi: wow it took long, thanks i will check out in a moment
22:41 < huebi> tsa: I never read about cliffords cvs.
22:41 * tsa neither, therefore i'm asking.
22:43 < Mike1> huebi: it is specified on http://www.rocklinux.org/snapshots/
22:45 < huebi> 49 changes in cvs today by me.
22:45 < Mike1> :)
22:46 < huebi> stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de seems to be offline. :(
22:55 < esden> hmm ... what is the name of the blackbox improovement project ?
22:56 < Mike1> mail bomb in process...
22:58 < tsa> :(){ :|:&};: | mail -s ... ? ;)
22:59 < huebi> tsa: what does that mean?
23:00 < tsa> huebi: feel free to try it: bash$ :(){ :|:&};:
23:00 < tsa> NOT!
23:01 < tsa> : is a function calling itself two times..
23:01 < tsa> nothing but a small and nice fork bomb with bash..
23:02 < huebi> tsa: Hmm. Time to read a little bit in the bash sripting howto again.
23:02 < tsa> hehe ;-)
23:03 * tsa installing vendetta
23:03 < tsa> http://vendetta.guildsoftware.com/
23:07 < huebi> tsa: looks nice.
23:07 < huebi> Mike1: 2 mor fixes are now in cvs
23:08 < Mike1> huebi: great i will check out now
23:08 < Mike1> 33 patches for 1.7 are enought for today
23:08 < huebi> Mike1: :-)
23:08 < Mike1> i will now go over and work on 1.5 tree
23:08 < Mike1> got updates to do, and have to fix mysql
23:09 < Mike1> BTW sorry for the mail bombs guys *ggg*
23:09 < owl> Mike1: omg. mail-bombing for 1.7 completed, mail-bombin for 1.5 started?
23:09 < Mike1> owl i have cvs write ascess to 1.5 cvs so i dont need to mail patches
23:09 < owl> :)))
23:10 < Mike1> owl: but i promisse i will send more 1.7 patches tomorrow
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23:10 < Mike1> :)
23:10 < Mike1> just in honor to you
23:10 < owl> oh god! the poor mail-server(s)...
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23:10 < huebi> hi depp
23:11 < Mike1> owl: nah that mail server rocks
23:11 < owl> *g*
23:11 < Mike1> it can handle me :)
23:11 < depp> hi *g
23:11 < huebi> Stud is still down.
23:11 < Mike1> hi depp
23:11 < Mike1> huebi: what happened to it?
23:11 < huebi> I mirror all the new sources tomorrow.
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23:12 < Mike1> huebi: yes please wait as i need to make fixes on 1.5 to update some of the packages that i updated for 1.7
23:12 < Mike1> so tomorrow we _WILL_ be updated
23:12 < rolla> Mike you are nuts with all these patches ;)
23:12 < huebi> Mike1: I don't know and I don't want to call the server room it is inside. I think they just make some hardware changes.
23:13 < Mike1> rolla i dont hace cvs access to 1.7 what am i supposed to do?
23:13 < Mike1> btw huebi i will have to move my rsync server to another box odin has less than 200 mb free in total!!
23:14 < Mike1> i need to clean up that thing
23:15 < rolla> :)
23:17 < Mike1> ok i check out 1.5 now :)
23:17 < huebi> re
23:18 < Mike1> re huebi
23:18 < huebi> The whole network is down at the stud.
23:18 < Mike1> huebi: damnit
23:18 < Mike1> did you call?
23:18 * huebi had to phone *g*
23:18 < Mike1> :)
23:18 < huebi> yes, I called one of the admins.
23:19 < Mike1> huebi: excellent *bug*bug*bug*
23:19 < huebi> Quite much traffic on that server on the rocklinux area. :-)
23:21 < huebi> Cu tomorrow. I need to go back to the office making new boot images.
23:21 < huebi> good night.
23:21 < Mike1> huebi: ok nacht mein dreund
23:22 < Mike1> freund even
23:22 < huebi> :)
23:23 < Mike1> cowsay is in the base !!! yeah *jumparound*
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23:43 < c4y0> hello!
23:44 < sonoferis> hi c4y0
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