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00:16 < Mike1> pin SMP
00:16 < Mike1> ping*
00:38 < owl> re
00:38 < Mike1> re owl
00:38 < owl> a keyboard is a real horrible pillow
00:43 < Mike1> i go now
00:43 < Mike1> see you
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01:11 < fake> humgrr
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01:14 < owl> gn8.
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02:33 < Mike1> re
02:33 < capone> Mike1
02:34 < Mike1> hi capone
02:34 < SMP> jo
02:34 < Mike1> hi SMPy
02:35 < Mike1> brbr
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02:40 < Mike1> ok now i am back :)
02:40 < Mike1> SMP: i have been OpenBSDing today
02:40 < Mike1> it has been fun
02:41 < SMP> good to hear
02:41 < Mike1> SMP: tomorrow i will configure a firewall with PF
02:42 < Mike1> and have an internet gateway to test conection sharing
02:42 < Mike1> SMP: thanks for convincing me to try OpenBSD i am having fun :)
02:43 < SMP> yeah that's what it'all about :)
02:43 < Mike1> of course :)
02:43 < SMP> and keep on working on ROCK so it will someday be as good as OpenBSD ;)
02:44 < Mike1> LOL
02:44 < Mike1> ok but you help us too :)
02:44 < SMP> well if we all try, we might succeed
02:45 < Mike1> ack
02:46 < SMP> (not that ROCK is particularly bad, just for the record ;)
02:47 < Mike1> SMP: sure ROCK is not a distro for mortals so it must be something
02:48 < SMP> well I think ROCK is a good place to from for making one
02:48 < SMP> as I said before.. someday I will re-implement Gentoo with ROCK ;>
02:48 < Mike1> mm.. ? explain please
02:50 < SMP> well. that would basically amount to packing up an incomplete build
02:50 < Mike1> i see
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02:58 < Mike1> *yawn*
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07:59 < blindcoder> moin
08:01 < Lorini> moin
08:02 < Lorini> und gleich wieder ciao
08:02 < Lorini> uni ruft
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08:48 < capone> hi all
08:49 < blindcoder> hi capone
09:32 < fake> morgen
09:33 < blindcoder> morschn
09:34 * blindcoder taking a look at his webalizer stats
09:34 < capone> hi fake
09:35 < blindcoder> 120 Referrer... 217 Search Strings... 44 Countries...
09:35 < blindcoder> erm...okay...
09:37 < blindcoder> 28 16 0.19% 0 0.00% 5 0.00% Old style Arpanet (arpa)
09:37 < blindcoder> hmm...
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10:06 < capone> hi Freak
10:06 < capone> nice, pine now works with gpg :)
10:09 < capone> umm. but it stil uses my rsa key :(
10:09 < fake> pine is for People Inable to use Natural Environments like mutt *g*
10:10 * capone having a look at mutt right now
10:12 < capone> what is the key to start configuring it ?
10:13 < capone> <Esc>k                 mail-key                           mail a PGP public key
10:13 < capone> oh
10:13 < capone> already has it :)
10:16 * capone pressed F1
10:17 * capone pressed q
10:17 < capone> ill take a look later, cya
10:17 < capone> it's late here
10:20 < blindcoder> capone: man muttrc :)
10:20 < blindcoder> one can't start to think that sending an email can require a gazillion options >_<
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10:42 < hackbard> moin
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11:04 < fake> WEEEEE
11:04 < fake> software suspend works!
11:05 < blindcoder> fake: nice :)
11:08 < blindcoder> licq doesn't >_<
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11:11 < owl> moin
11:12 < fake> blindcoder: on my 1.7 build licq built easily...
11:12 < fake> morgen owl
11:13 < blindcoder> fake: on mine it doesn't find vector.h
11:13 < owl> hi fake, blindcoder
11:13 < blindcoder> moin owl
11:13 < owl> ach schande... jetzt gleich religion... *heul*
11:15 < blindcoder> haha
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11:20 < blindcoder> fake: which version
11:23 < fake> 2002/11/06
11:23 < blindcoder>  cvs, so not a release?
11:24 < fake> ah. you mean licq.
11:24 < fake> not rock ;)
11:24 < owl> bye
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11:25 < blindcoder> yes, I mean licq...
11:25 < fake> cvs, yes
11:26 < blindcoder> hmm... that's bad...
11:31 < Freak> http://linuid.dhis.org/~freak/guckmal/screenshots/20021121_11.24.21.jpg
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14:26 < tcr> moin all
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14:31 < blindcoder> moin moin
14:31 < Ge0rG> huhu
14:34 < blindcoder> boy, I'm tired >_<
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14:37 < blindcoder> re tcr
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14:39 < owl> moin girls
14:39 < blindcoder> moin boy
14:40 < owl> blindcoder: tsss.
14:41 < blindcoder> what?
14:42 < owl> nuex
14:42 < blindcoder> okay :)
14:48 < tcr> is there something like isalpha() or isdigit() at shell level?
14:49 < blindcoder> hmm... you could do some interesting things with sed and then compare the result with the original
14:50 < blindcoder> like if [  $num == ` echo $num | sed 's,[^0-9],,g' ` ]
14:51 < tcr> lol
14:51 < tcr> that's _very_ rustical
14:51 < blindcoder> well... it just might work :)
14:57 < fake> if [ $(($var+1)) -gt $var ] ?
14:58 < tcr> if [[ "$ch1" -ge "0" && "$ch1" -le "9" ]]; then
14:59 * blindcoder thinks about going home...
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15:00 < litost> morning
15:01 < blindcoder> moin
15:01 < owl> hi litost
15:01 < litost> how are you owl?
15:03 < owl> litost: great thx. school is over for today.
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15:03 < blindcoder> re Lorini_
15:03 < owl> hi Lorini_
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15:06 < owl> cu later.
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15:20 < rolla> re
15:25 < fake> blindcoder: i might not be on the train tonight
15:25 < blindcoder>  me neither
15:25 < blindcoder> I'm leaving early today
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15:27 < fake> OH MY GOD
15:27 < Mike1> moin
15:27 < fake> I DRUNK DECOFFEINATED COFFEE
15:27 < fake> WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
15:27 -!- clifford [~clifford@M088P014.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
15:27 < Mike1> fake: buahahahaha
15:28 * fake dying
15:28 < Mike1> hi clifford
15:28 < fake> *spit* *spit* *spit*
15:28 < clifford> bye fake.. ;-)
15:28 < rolla> ha
15:28 < clifford> hi all!
15:28 < fake> hi clifford ...!
15:28 < blindcoder> hi clifford
15:28 < fake> clifford: <fake> I DRUNK DECOFFEINATED COFFEE
15:28 < blindcoder> fake: let me guess: you didn't even notice :)
15:28 < Mike1> clifford: wie geht es Ihnen?
15:28 * clifford never drinks coffee..
15:28 < fake> blindcoder: just now
15:29 < blindcoder> after the second cup? :)
15:29 < fake> clifford: what wonder happened so that we see you here?
15:29 < clifford> Mike1: I've forwared the new rsync data to the gd.tuwien.ac.at maintainer now.
15:29 < fake> blindcoder: yes -_-
15:29 < blindcoder> hmm... that reminds me of the JOLT-Cola patch for nethack
15:29 < Mike1> clifford: yes thanks you, i already read your email
15:30 < Mike1> clifford: that damn hard drive was full, the new host has a lot more of space
15:30 < blindcoder> speaking of coffee.... /me getting the last cup before his co-worker does..
15:31 < clifford> mike: also fixed the 'arround' in rolling rock issue #2 now.
15:33 < fake> clifford: how's things?
15:35 < clifford> all a little bit stressy - as usual.
15:36 < fake> heh, would be boring if everything would be relaxed ;)
15:37 < clifford> beeing bored some times doesn't sound so bad to me at the moment ..  ;-)
15:38 < fake> clifford: are you, by chance, a bit into the current kernel vt code?
15:38 < tcr> uh, i've found a bug in bash or glob
15:39 < tcr> ah
15:39 < blindcoder>  tcr I know that feeling :)
15:40 < tcr> hmm. misinterpreted something, it isn't a bug
15:40 < blindcoder> *ARGH*
15:40 < clifford> fake: why? I wrote this hacky disable-blankscreen patch - that's all I made with the vt code so far.
15:40 < clifford> tcr: is it a feature? ;-)
15:40 < blindcoder> now, let's hope muy X doesn't crash... somebody fscked up the NFS-Servers...
15:41 < fake> clifford: the sgi-ip22 console driver does not honor devfs.. :( maybe we could hack at that at 19C3 ?
15:42 < clifford> we'll try..
15:42 < tcr> clifford: if you want to a - in [] among other characters, you have to use [-other_chars]
15:42 < tcr> heh, it's even documentated!
15:44 < clifford> tcr: yes - or you quote it with a backslash.
15:45 < blindcoder> okay... me leaving
15:45 < fake> clifford: i'll bring 2 chunks of extra time... ;))
15:45 < fake> cu blindcoder
15:45 < blindcoder> I'm going home... those *^%$%^ at the NFS-Servers will take their tim...
15:45 < clifford> cu blindy.
15:45 < blindcoder> see ya
15:45 < clifford> fake: and dont forgett the instant-sleep ;-)
15:46 < fake> software suspend... grrr. 2.5.48 ... GRRR... need... real... coffee...
15:55 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini
15:56 * tcr is listening to Hammerfall - The Dragon Lies Bleeding
15:56 < Lorini> re
15:57 < fake> wo is eigentlich der pole?
15:58 < tcr> "come across to the promised, close your eyes, i'll take your hand, through the river still we go, where the dragon lies bleeding.."
15:58 < clifford> gute frage - der schuldet mir noch einen dietlibc artikel..  ;-)
15:59 < fake> idle     : 17 hours 5 mins
15:59 < fake> wow...
16:07 < tcr> hmm
16:08 < tcr>  /var/adm/packages/termcap exist, but there doesn't seem to exist a package in the 1.5 sources
16:11 < tcr> huebi: ?
16:13 < tcr> clifford: have you ever written a function that compares two versionsstring ? (if newer, return that, if older, return that, if equal return that)
16:14 < tcr> talking about bash
16:20 < clifford> tcr: scripts/Check-PkgVersion
16:21 < tcr> how can i fetch only this file from your cvs?
16:24 < fake> http://ww.rocklinux.org/sources/scripts/Check-PkgVersion
16:24 < fake> s,ww,www,
16:27 < fake> gr... no 'dialog' on solaris
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16:28 < tcr> damn
16:32 < fake> tcr: saw my link?
16:32 < tcr> nah
16:34 < tcr> nevermind, i don't intend to use perl .. i'll give it a try myself
16:40 -!- clifford is now known as clifford_away
16:43 < fake> http://www.rocklinux.org/sources/scripts/Check-PkgVersion
16:47 < snyke> moo
16:48 < snyke> this... is a fake!
16:48 < snyke> hi fake!
16:48 < snyke> fake: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2071616978 <-- ROOOOFL
16:48 < snyke> read the descrition properly... rofl
16:48 < snyke> and then watch the price.. roflllll
16:53 < fake> *rofl*
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17:15 < owl> re
17:15 < Lorini> re
17:15 < Mike1> moin owly
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17:15 < owl> hi Lorini, Mike1
17:16 < Mike1> hi Lorini
17:16 < Lorini> hi Mike1
17:17 < owl> *yawning*
17:21 < owl> reboot
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17:40 < temr> hoi
17:40 < tcr> ahoi
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17:51 < tcr> huebi: !
17:52 < fake> ! : ibeuh
17:53 < tcr> if you haven't anything to do, please jumpt out of the window! :P
17:57 < Mike1> e
17:57 < Mike1> k
17:57 < Mike1> a
17:57 < Mike1> f
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18:04 < tcr> Mike1: huah
18:04 < Mike1> hi tcr
18:05 < tcr> Mike1: i think you know, in the current cvs version the format of the pkg file has been changed
18:05 < tcr> var/adm/package/$pkg
18:05 < Mike1> tcr: 1.5 or 1.7?
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18:06 < Mike1> re clifford
18:06 < tcr> well 1.7 anyway -- but 1.5 early since 1.5.20
18:06 < clifford> hi again.
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18:06 < armijn> re
18:06 < clifford> It's now possible to build with -Os (e.g. for 'bootdisk' target)
18:06 < tcr> re cliff; hi armijn
18:07 < clifford> hi armijn
18:07 < tcr> Mike1: what i wanna say is that the pkg-list script is *still* the same
18:07 < Mike1> mom brb
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18:07 < owl> re
18:08 < owl> muhahahahahaha! what a idiot! i can't stop laughing!
18:08 * armijn hugs owl
18:08 < armijn> ha! didn't see that one coming!
18:08 < owl> hi armijn
18:08 < armijn> hi clifford,tcr,mike1
18:08 < armijn> hi owl
18:09 < armijn> sigh, great, lots of stuff to finish, and promoting Linux tomorrow at the largest computerfare in western europe...
18:11 < tcr> Mike1: my modified version:
18:11 < tcr> #!/bin/bash
18:11 < tcr> grep 'Package Name and Version: ' /var/adm/packages/* | cut -f5- -d' '
18:11 < tcr> while read line; do
18:11 < tcr> 	if [ -z "${line/Package Name*: /}" ]; then
18:11 < tcr> 		echo -n "${line/Package Name*: /} "
18:11 < tcr> 	else
18:11 < tcr> 		echo "${line/Package Version*: /}"
18:11 < tcr> 	fi
18:11 < tcr> done < <( egrep -h '(Package Name[ ]*|Package Version)' /var/adm/packages/*
18:11 < tcr> )
18:12 < tcr> the last line again: done < <( egrep -h '(Package Name[ ]*:|Package Version)' /var/adm/packages/*)
18:13 < armijn> ah well, I can always decide to install w2k pro in finnish...
18:13 < armijn> should be fun
18:15 < armijn> or should I install the norwegian version?
18:15 < armijn> or the danish one?
18:15 -!- clifford is now known as clifford_away
18:17 < armijn> ha, at least I chased clifford away with it!
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18:22 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
18:25 < Mike1> re
18:26 < Mike1> tcr: ok is that fix for 1.5?
18:26 < Mike1> i am not sure of what you are telling me
18:27 < tcr> yes, something like. I dunno if this is the most perfect variant, but at elast it works for me
18:29 * Mike1 grabbing latest cvs ...
18:29 < tcr> according to changelog the last entry was at 11-13
18:30 < Mike1> that was me ..
18:30 < tcr> right
18:30 < Mike1> and no you dont have the latest cvs the last change was 11-18
18:30 < Mike1> also me :)
18:31 < Mike1> spect lots of fixes today btw
18:31 < tcr> hm, could you pleae update procps?
18:31 < Mike1> tcr: yes that is on my TODO list for today
18:33 < Mike1> tcr: what change do you see in the package format of 1.5 btw
18:33 < Mike1> i do not remeber huebi doing such thing and i have certainly not made it
18:34 < tcr> before: Package Name and Version: $pkgname $pkgver $rockver
18:34 < tcr> now: Package Name: $pkgname
18:34 < tcr> Package Version: $pkgver $rockver
18:35 < Mike1> ah :) yeah
18:36 < Mike1> may i have a copy of your pkg-list script?
18:36 < Mike1> i wanna have close look to your changes
18:36 < tcr> email @addr?
18:39 < tcr> th_: PING
18:40 < Mike1> tcr: guess?
18:40 < Mike1> mike@rocklinux.org :)
18:40 < tcr> Miguel A. Bolanos <mike@odin.informatica.co.cr>
18:40 < tcr> wrote to it now
18:40 < Mike1> tcr: its ok as well
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18:41 < Mike1> though i would prefer rock patches and fixes for 1.5 sent to my rocklinux.org addy :)
18:41 < Mike1> blindito :)
18:42 < th_> tcr: ack?
18:43 < tcr> th_: http://freshmeat.net/redir/windowmaker/11541/url_bz2/WindowMaker-0.80.2.tar.bz2
18:43 < th_> tcr: what about it?
18:44 < tcr> rock uses 0.80.0, and you're mentioned as maintainer ...
18:44 < th_> tcr: could you send me a mail for this please?
18:45 * Mike1 wonders if th still will / want to maintain his 1.5 packages
18:45 < tcr> with what content?
18:45 < Mike1> hi th_ btw
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18:46 < tcr> Mike1: hmm what I found out: /var/adm/termcap exists, but there is no pkg in the current cvs sources
18:46 < tcr> Mike1: The same is with lprng
18:47 < th_> Mike1: just a problem of time
18:47 < Mike1> th ok
18:47 < th_> tcr: with "please update wmaker or just apply this patch ..."
18:47 < th_> away now...
18:47 < th_> *detach*
18:47 < tcr> sorry, I'm not a windowmaker user, just saw that on frshmeat
18:47 < tcr> but will write a msg
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19:02 < capchaos> hi
19:19 < esden> hi all
19:21 < Mike1> hi capy and esdy
19:22 < Mike1> th_: i will update wmaker if you like
19:28 < tcr> Mike1: is it possible to determine a snapshot version or something in the sources?
19:28 < tcr> $SRCDIR/VERSION is too unexact
19:28 < tcr> i need the date and time when the fetch was
19:29 -!- tcr changed the topic of #rocklinux to: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co -P rock-1.5 && cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7you know about?
19:29 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #rocklinux to: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co -P rock-1.5 && cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7
19:29 < Mike1> tcr: let me think about an option
19:29 < tcr> arghs, i hate xchat and its setting of the focus
19:30 < tcr> i'm not familiar to cvs
19:30 < Mike1> tcr: though all the 1.5 snaps pkg versions are on the mirrors atm
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19:30 < Mike1> tcr: be back in a while i need some food  or i will die
19:31 < tcr> ok
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19:43 < th_> Mike1: would be great
19:48 < tcr> hmm... I want to send some emails locally, i.e. just via writing into the /var/spool/mail/$USER files. I wonder why mail(x) isn't able to do this... I actually don't want to set up a MTA for this
19:50 < th_> tcr: mail should do fine.
19:51 < tcr> echo test | mail -s "a test" $USER
19:51 < tcr> /usr/sbin/sendmail: No such file or directory
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19:52 < th_> tcr: ls -l `which mail`
19:52 < man_> Hello.
19:52 < th_> hi man
19:53 < man_> Where is a reliable, up-to-date SRPMs source?
19:53 < th_> man_: wrong channel for that question
19:53 < man_> still, an ideea..
19:53 < tcr> th_ -rwxr-xr-x
19:54 < th_> tcr: so it's no link.
19:54 < tcr> nope
19:54 < man_> I'm trying to build rock or gentoo on my Peanut UMSOS install.
19:55 < man_> Should I bother starting to document myself?
19:56 < th_> tcr: mail is trying to connect to local smtp
19:57 < th_> it's using sendmail
19:57 < th_> :-/
19:57 < th_> Nov 21 19:56:32 ws3 sendmail[476]: gALIuWnx000476: to=th, ctladdr=root (0/0), de
19:57 < th_> lay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30024, relay=localhost [127.0.0
19:57 < th_> .1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by localhost
19:57 < man_> So, I allready upset everybody?
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19:57 < owl> re
19:58 < blindcoder> re owly
19:58 < blindcoder> how's your date been?
19:58 < owl> hi blindy
19:58 < owl> i had no date
19:58 < th_> hi owl
19:58 < owl> hi th_
19:58 < th_> man_: there was no question
19:58 < blindcoder> owl: yes, you had!
19:58 < owl> blindcoder: NO!
19:58 < blindcoder> owl: YES
19:58 < owl> but i will become member of "bingo"
19:58 < blindcoder> well, that's not my fault, is it?
19:59 < owl> nope :)
19:59 < blindcoder> hehe ;)
20:00 < tcr> th_: Hmm. I'm having a look into the sources. "Their were times where men were men, and wrote their own..." ;)
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20:24 [ aszlig    ] [ esden        ] [ ichilton] [ Mike1   ] [ rxr_ ] [ th_    ] 
20:24 [ blindcoder] [ fake         ] [ kasc_   ] [ owl     ] [ simon] [ zer0_o^] 
20:24 [ bluefire  ] [ Freak        ] [ litost  ] [ Parabull] [ SMP  ] 
20:24 [ capone    ] [ Ge0rG        ] [ LoriAW  ] [ praenti ] [ snyke] 
20:24 [ chrisMAMPF] [ hackbard     ] [ man_    ] [ ringo30 ] [ tcr  ] 
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20:28 < Mike1> re all
20:29 < Mike1> man_: anything you need / want to know about building rock?
20:30 < owl> wb Mike1
20:30 < blindcoder> hi Mike1
20:32 < Mike1> oy owl und blindcoder
20:32 < Mike1> ok /me troubleshooting a server
20:32 < Mike1> err should i say shooting w2k?
20:33 < owl> *lol* yep. sounds better :)
20:34 * Mike1 dont trouble shoot his linux boxes only w2k boxes
20:34 < Mike1> Linux never fails :))
20:35 < Mike1> if they fail.. its a hardware problem
20:36 < blindcoder> Layer 8 fails also quite often
20:36 < owl> oh oh... the user... ;P
20:36 < Mike1> lol
20:37 * blindcoder failing, too
20:37 < blindcoder> hmm... I beught 200 CD-R last SAturday... 50 are already gone...
20:38 * owl takes a fat book and "haut es" blindy "um die ohren"
20:38 < blindcoder> YES! HARDER! MY HAED IS STILL ON MY SHOULDERS!
20:38 < owl> ...
20:38 < blindcoder> :)
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20:55 < esden> yooo the lego mindstorms connect4 robot works !!!
20:55 < esden> *jumparound*
20:55 < owl> hi esden. congrats.
20:56 < esden> thanks owl ;-)
20:56 < blindcoder> good
20:56 < owl> esden: buedde
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20:59 < blindcoder> "You've come a long way to die tonight"
21:01 < blindcoder> "My life is good. I know it's good. And all I achieve is this PAIN!"
21:01 < blindcoder> "You've come a long way to die tonight"
21:01 < blindcoder> "Those broken wings wake a lonely sight."
21:01 < blindcoder> "You've come a long way to die."
21:01 < blindcoder> "And all because you thought you'd had..."
21:02 < owl> blindcoder: don't be so pessimistic, please. (of listen to such music or see such movies...)
21:03 < blindcoder> owl: You should listen to it. You'd like it.
21:03 < owl> blindcoder: why? is it gothic or metal?
21:04 < blindcoder> neither. But I'm sure you'd like it. I have them on CD (mp3) I'll bring it along tomorrow.
21:04 < owl> well. sounds good. thx ;)
21:04 < capone> hi
21:04 < owl> hi capone
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21:05 < blindcoder> re capone
21:06 < blindcoder> "If I go crazy then will you still call me Superman?!" *sing*
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21:08 < tsa> tag
21:08 < blindcoder> abend
21:08 < tsa> moin blindcoder
21:08 < owl> hi tsa
21:10 < capone> hi tsa
21:10 < tsa> hi owl
21:10 < tsa> hi capone
21:14 * blindcoder going to bed. good n8
21:15 < capone> sleep fine blindcoder
21:17 < tsa> cu blindcoder
21:20 < tcr> tsa: maybe you know why there doesn't exist the ctags command, though it should be deliviered with vim
21:30 < tsa> hm...don't know.
21:41 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048450.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
21:41 < capone> capchaos
21:41 < Mike1> Hola tsa
21:41 < tsa> hi Mike1
21:41 < capone> Mike1
21:42 < Mike1> hi capone und capchaos
21:42 < capchaos> hi capone, hi Mike1, hi tsa
21:42 * capchaos running lfs now, it's fast as hell even w/o optimisation
21:42 * capchaos yet haven't tried rock 1.7 
21:43 < Mike1> capchaos: try OpenBSD  :)
21:43 < capchaos> why OpenBSD ?
21:43 < capone> ( #rocklinux || #openbsd )
21:43 < Mike1> its pretty cool
21:43 < Mike1> and its secure and stable as hell :)
21:44 < capchaos> yes, i believe you. but i can't get ISDN running under OpenBSD.
21:44 < capchaos> they have stopped support on isdn
21:46 < capchaos> Mike1: have you tried NetBSD ?
21:46 < owl> COFFEE!!! god, that's so great...
21:46 < Mike1> capchaos: once
21:46 < capchaos> owl: me wants to, but doesn't have any ;(
21:46 < Mike1> why?
21:46 < owl> *ggg*
21:47 * owl enjoys a _large_ cup of black coffee
21:47 < capchaos> NetBSD is said to be stable and clean, too.
21:47 < capchaos> owl: *grml*
21:47 < capchaos> and NetBSD has ISDN support.
21:47 < owl> *gggg*
21:48 < capchaos> Yet, i want to have a pure GNU system and the Linux kernel running on my desktop. However my server will get a BSD, maybe :)
21:49 < owl> capchaos: a freebsd-dev (who also develops for netbsd) said once to me, that openbsd often uses code from netbsd - just a bit later than it's released in netbsd...
21:50 < capchaos> owl: Yes, cuz OpenBSD is split from NetBSD. And security needs the code to proof secure, by the time.
21:50 < tcr> theobsd
21:51 < owl> i c.
21:51 < capchaos> owl: and AFAIK NetBSD enjoys a much bigger dev community.
21:51 < capchaos> tcr: hehh ;)
21:51 < Mike1> anyways ROCK rulez
21:53 < capone> where is 'wtf' included ?
21:53 < capone> and makewhatis ?
21:53 < capone> which package ?
21:54 * Mike1 doesnt make any furter comments
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21:55 < capone> bah .. /me having a look at rock-src :-/
21:55 < capone> hi thalerim
21:56 < Mike1> re thaly
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22:06 * Mike1 updating packages for 1.5 tree... cheers tcr
22:08 < th_> 21.11.2002-19:22 #rocklinux: < Mike1> th_: i will update wmaker if you like
22:08 < th_> Mike1: don't hesitate
22:09 < esden> n8 -> party ;-)
22:09 < Mike1> esden: jumas!!
22:14 < Mike1> th_: ok cool, may i do the same if i found more of your packages on the way of my update?
22:15 < th_> Mike1: yes but inform me about changes please.
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22:16 < Mike1> th_: everything is on the changelog anyways
22:17 < th_> Mike1: yes but i don't read it
22:18 < Mike1> th_: ok ich will inform you then
22:18 < Mike1> th_: you dont maintain any base packages do you ?
22:19 < tcr> Mike1: http://cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/changelog?rev=1.628&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup says still last change was made on 11-13
22:19 < tcr> ???
22:19 < Mike1> tcr: here is my changelog:
22:19 < Mike1> 2002-11-18 15:32  mike
22:19 < Mike1>         * rock-1.5/ext-config/mplayer/mplayer.ext: Fixed cksum errors
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22:20 < martin_> hi all
22:20 < capchaos> hi martin_
22:20 < Mike1> checked out earlier this mourning
22:20 < capchaos> and gn8
22:20 < Mike1> oyasumi nasai capchaos
22:20 < capone> cya capchaos
22:20 < martin_> hi capchaos
22:20 < owl> hi martin_
22:20 < tcr> Mike1: but why is the webfrontend dated?
22:21 < martin_> hi owl
22:21 < Mike1> SMP: ?
22:21 < Mike1> tcr: dunno
22:24 < Mike1> tcr: you asked me to update procinfo right?
22:25 < tcr> procps
22:25 < Mike1> ah yeah :)
22:26 < Mike1> ok updated to 3.1.1
22:26 < Mike1> will commit in a while
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22:30 < Mike1> anyone knows the new location for raidtools?
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22:39 < thalerim> Mike1: already commited?
22:40 < Mike1> thalerim: mom
22:40 < Mike1> thalerim: you really are anxiously waiting arent you ?
22:41 < thalerim> i just want to test a script that i'm writing on
22:41 < Mike1> thalerim: ah ok
22:41 < Mike1> mom let me finish to fix base and opt then i commit
22:41 < martin_> hmm, gn8
22:42 < Mike1> nacht martin_
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22:47 < thalerim> ..waiting..
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22:48 < Mike1> tcr: just 5 more packages and i commit
22:49 < tcr> do so
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22:55 * Mike1 already stressed by tcr begins first commit
22:55 < Mike1> :P jk
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22:56 < owl> re
22:56 < Mike1> re owlita
23:02 < Mike1> tcr: done
23:02 < tcr> thx
23:02 < Mike1> tcr: i am not finished yet but at procps is on this first commit
23:07 < tcr> ok, everything seems to work so far :)
23:07 < Mike1> tcr: mom i missed something i need to commit one little fix
23:08 < Mike1> ok commited
23:09 < tcr> fixed bug of what?
23:10 < Mike1> just a forgot to change sth on xfsprogs
23:11 < Mike1> texinfo now updated as well
23:12 < tcr> well, i'll just update procps ..
23:12 < Mike1> tcr: ok
23:12 < tcr> i'm not a pine user ;)
23:12 < Mike1> :)
23:13 < Mike1> brb
23:25 < capone> hi owl
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23:36 < SMP> *yawn*
23:38 < tsa> moin SMP
23:44 < owl> hi SMP
23:45 < capone> cial
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23:49 < Mike1> hi master SMP
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