--- Log opened Sat Nov 23 00:00:08 2002
--- Day changed Sat Nov 23 2002
00:00 < Mike1> tsa: working on 1.5?
00:00 < tsa> Mike1: no.
00:01 < Mike1> i see ok
00:01 < tsa> Mike1: huebi got a nice IBM 21" for me...months ago..and i'm still waiting for his invoice..
00:01 < Mike1> hehe :)
00:01 * tsa doesn't like oweing people money
00:02 < tsa> *sigh*
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00:30 < owl> re
00:31 < tcr> wb
00:31 < Mike1> re owlita
00:31 * Mike1 hugs owlita
00:31 < owl> NO HUG!
00:31 < owl> *argh*
00:31 * Mike1 hugs owlita
00:32 < SMP>  . o O ( ? )
00:32 < Mike1> SMP: she loves to hugged
00:32 < SMP> yeah I noticed
00:32 < owl> SMP: no. i'm hating it.
00:32 < owl> and i also love this fscking "elm" wuah. it _really_ suckz.
00:33 < SMP> alias elm=mutt
00:33 < owl> wah? mutt is the stupid stuff which will kill me?
00:34 < SMP> well you probably thought elm was a program to do your mail in?
00:34 < owl> nope. i didn't know anything about it... i just know that it wants a printing system or so... (forgot the message...)
00:35 < SMP> oh.
00:35 < SMP> just let it be. let it die. fade away. it deserves the rest. finally.
00:36 < Mike1> lol
00:36 < owl> hm.
00:36 < Mike1> wow its a lot easier to contact huebi by email
00:36 < SMP> hehe
00:36 < owl> Mike1: what? huebi is alive???
00:36 < tsa> Mike1?
00:36 * owl can't believe her eyes
00:36 < Mike1> he replyed my mail after 2 minutes
00:36 < owl> fascinating. really fascinating
00:37 < tsa> Mike1: huh? where di you send your mail huebi@rocklinux.org?
00:37 < Mike1> tsa: ack
00:37 < tcr> Mike1: did he mention how long he'll probably be awake?
00:37 < Mike1> tsa: i also i just forwarded some info about 1.5.20 status to the rlml
00:38 < Mike1> tcr: 1.5.20 will be released according to him in 2 days or so, i would say on monday or tuesday
00:38 < tsa> mail sent.
00:38 < SMP> hmm that isn't good
00:38 < Mike1> SMP: ?
00:39 < SMP> I have three security patches for glibc that should go in. -finally-
00:39 < Mike1> tcr: he is alive but i guess very very busy to come to irc and ask the 1000000 of questions everyone of us has for him
00:39 < SMP> but for one I'm not sure if it is effective at all
00:39 < Mike1> SMP: sent them to me if you like
00:39 < Mike1> SMP: i can read and teste them
00:39 < Mike1> test*
00:39 < owl>  /* no further comments. i guess this guarantees me a longer life */
00:39 < tcr> SMP: do you know where's responsible for the bashline.patch?
00:40 < SMP> I have tested them and I productively use a glibc that includes them
00:40 < Mike1> so why do you hesitate to send them?
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00:41 < SMP> I'm not sure if one of them does really correct the issue
00:42 < SMP> I'll have to ask jakub@redhat.com
00:42 < Mike1> if you like send them to me to have a look
00:42 < Mike1> SMP: ok
00:43 < SMP> how familar are you with the resolver lib? ;)
00:43 < SMP> tcr: pardon?
00:43 < SMP> "familiar" I meant
00:44 < Mike1> SMP: just 1/2 a bit *gg* still i would like to see you patches :)
00:44 < SMP> well I didn't write them
00:44 < Mike1> SMP: mmm.. ok
00:52 < tcr> Mike1: :) if i ever get finished, I'll send you some scripts to test out
00:52 < tcr> but heh, well you know a whole night is long
00:53 < Mike1> tcr: yes :) i will be waiting got those scripts :)
00:54 < tsa> Mike1: hm...still no answer from huebi here...did you send him money, too?
00:54 < tsa> ;)
00:55 < Mike1> tsa: nope i just help him out maintain 1.5 tree thats all
00:55 < tsa> hm..
00:55 < Mike1> err should i say bug him out ..
00:55 < Mike1> *ggg*
00:55 < tsa> i'll delete all my packages ;)
00:56 < Mike1> tsa: ????
00:56 < owl> ...and huebi will add them again...
00:56 < Mike1> tsa: why?
00:56 < Mike1> tsa: let owl maintain them
00:56 < Mike1> :)
00:56 < tsa> Mike1: hehe
00:57 < owl> Mike1: huh? are you crazy/drunken/stone.d or so...?
00:57 < Mike1> owl: no, why would i?
00:57 < owl> Mike1: cuz i have to less experience
00:57 < Mike1> tsa: can teach you, right tsa?
00:58 < tsa> better don't want to know, i guess.
00:59 < Mike1> owl: its not usually that complicated once you understand how it works
00:59 < Mike1> though yes you to run some more builds first :)
00:59 < owl> hmmm... first i wanna have more experience. after that we will se.
01:00 < owl> s/se/see
01:00 < Mike1> owlita ok
01:00 < Mike1> ass you wish
01:00 < owl> aehm....
01:00 < tsa> we'll have all died before that happens ;-)) *duck*
01:00 < owl> tsa: haha.
01:01 * owl compiles right now - since yesterday evening or so - rock-1.5.xxbuild... 
01:01 < owl> tsa: so, don't complain ;P
01:01 < tsa> owl: interested in maintaining 1.2 tree? ;)
01:01 < owl> tsa: *lol*
01:01 < tsa> owl: wrong.
01:01 < Mike1> tsa: hey that would be cool
01:02 < tsa> owl: your box is compiling. you're just sitting besides it and doing absolutely nothing... :-P
01:02 < owl> tsa: ;P
01:02 < tsa> owl: you're lazy
01:02 < owl> tsa: nope. why?
01:02 < tsa> Mike1: i guess owl needs a beso from you ;)
01:02 < owl> tsa: no!!!
01:03 < Mike1> tsa: hell no!
01:03 < tsa> Mike1: oh - she finally found out?
01:03 < Mike1> tsa: ack
01:03 < tsa> ah, i see.
01:03 < owl> aeh? *confused*
01:03 < tsa> took about 3 weeks or something..
01:03 < Mike1> tsa 4 i think
01:04 < tsa> not bad at al (for a woman)
01:04 < tsa> +l
01:04 < Mike1> cierto, busquemos otra palabrita :)
01:04 * tsa deeply impressed.
01:04 < tsa> Mike1: hehe..
01:04 < owl> *grml*
01:04 < Mike1> tsa: don't be i told her
01:04 < tsa> ah...
01:04 < Mike1> my mistake
01:04 < tsa> what did she offer you for telling her?
01:04 < Mike1> tsa: a hug
01:05 < tsa> (no, i guess i don't really want to know.. )
01:05 < Mike1> tsa: lol
01:05 < tsa> Mike1: aah! did you like it? ;)
01:05 < tsa> ..and did owl like it?
01:05 < tsa> owl: how come you're being so quiet?
01:05 < Mike1> tsa: i had to tell her so she would release me
01:05 < owl> tsa: nope. it was horrible
01:05 < Mike1> tsa: i though i would die
01:06 < owl> tsa: /me needs more coffee... almost asleep
01:06 < tsa> Mike1: i guess that was the one day when owl began her sexual relationship with blindcoder..
01:06 < Mike1> tsa: might be
01:06 < owl> muhahahahahaha!
01:06 < tsa> .oO( sounds like a cow )
01:07 < owl> of course
01:07 < tsa> NO MILK FOR ME, PLEASE.
01:07 < owl> tsa: why not?
01:07 < Mike1>  ____________________________
01:07 < Mike1> < tsa you are humiliating me >
01:07 < Mike1>  ----------------------------
01:07 < Mike1>         \   ^__^
01:07 < Mike1>          \  (oo)\_______
01:07 < Mike1>             (__)\       )\/\
01:07 < Mike1>                 ||----w |
01:07 < Mike1>                 ||     ||
01:07 < owl> *lol* mathilda ist alive again...
01:08 < tsa> owl: consider how milk gets out of the cow and ask yourself.
01:08 < owl> tsssssssssss
01:09 < Mike1> tsa: will you milk owl?
01:09 < tsa> NO I WON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:09 < Mike1> ROTFL
01:09 < owl> tsa, Mike1: that's enough!
01:09 < owl> stop talking sh** please
01:09 < tsa> Mike1: that's blindcoder's job, not mine.
01:09 < owl> for sure not blindcod1rs job
01:10 < tsa> .oO( chick getting confuzed..it works ;)
01:10 < Mike1> sure still i think i should not made my previous comment
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01:10 < tsa> Mike1: hehe...you don't have to care about that.
01:10 < Mike1> ok
01:10 < tsa> ..at least owl is talking again ;)
01:10 < owl> tsa: ...
01:10 < Mike1> owl: como te sientes hoy?
01:11 < tsa> Mike1: guess i should buy her some grass ;)
01:11 < tsa> enojada, probablemente..
01:11 < owl> grass? weed?
01:11 < tsa> no, just plain green grass.
01:11 < owl> *g*
01:12 < tsa> you know...the stuff on the bottom of the big room with the blue ceiling..
01:12 < owl> hm. can't remember
01:13 < tsa> owl: estas embarazada?
01:13 < owl> haeh?
01:14 < tsa> ask Mike1
01:14 < tsa> ;)
01:14 < owl> hmmmm
01:14 < Mike1> tsa: claro que si tu lo enjendraste
01:15 * owl away for some minutes.
01:15 < tsa> Mike1: no. no. no.
01:15 < owl> brb
01:15 < Mike1> owl: say yes say yes
01:15 < owl>  /* no comments */
01:15 < tsa> owl: don't!
01:16 < Mike1> tsa: too late silence is always taking as an afirmative question
01:16 * owl says nothing - that's the best
01:16 < owl> and now - away - brb
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01:41 * Mike1 fixing broken xfree86 on 1.5 ...
01:43 < tsa> n8
01:43 < Mike1> n8 tsa
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01:48 < owl> re
01:48 < Mike1> owly wb
01:50 < owl> uff... there are archives and there are my tar.bz2s... (1.4 gb... oops)
01:52 < Mike1> owl: wtf?
01:53 < owl> backup of a
01:53 < Mike1> ok
01:53 < owl> part of my HD (of the notebook i will give away tormorrow=
01:53 < owl>  (with movies and stuff inclueded ;))
01:54 < Mike1> i see
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03:12 < Mike1> *yawn*
03:12 < Mike1> how are things SMP?
03:28 < owl> gn8
03:28 < Mike1> n8 owl
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04:24 < Mike1> *YAWN*
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05:42 < Mike1> moin kasc_
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06:04 < Mike1> WEEEHHHH!!! Xfree86 builds again!!!!
06:04 * Mike1 commiting now
06:18 < Mike1> nasm build priority changed, syslinux builds now :))
06:25 < Mike1> ok enought fixing for today i go to sleep now, cu later guys
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07:06 < rolla_bob> re
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08:33 < tcr> moin all
08:34 < aszlig> hullo tcr
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10:33 < holyolli> moin
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11:18 < tcr> Mike1: ping
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12:26 < Lorini> huhu
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13:03 < owl> moin
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13:32 < owl> hi clifford
13:32 < clifford> hi.
13:32 < owl> wie geht's?
13:32 < clifford> ganz gut. warum hat mir keiner gesagt, das die cvs version probleme mit buikld-crosscc hat?
13:33 < clifford> s/das/dass/ - ich bin muede ...
13:34 < owl> hmm... crosscompiler... ? ich dachte das waere gefixt inzwischen... (glaubte, dass jemand sowas sagte...)?
13:34 < clifford> nein - das ist jetzt wieder ein ganz anderes problem und tritt nur bei einem _echte_ cross build auf.
13:35 < owl> ah so
13:35 < clifford> ich hab' mich gester fuer einen job beworben:
13:35 < clifford> http://www.init.at/stellen.html (Clusterbetreuer)
13:37 < clifford> Bei der Ausschreibung zu Schroedinger I (bisher groesster Cluster in .at) hab' ich auch teilgenommen und bin ausschreibungszweiter geworden.
13:37 < owl> hm. hoert sich ned uninteressant an ;)
13:37 < owl> cool. congrats
13:37 < clifford> Wenn ich den job kriege bin ich erst recht wieder admin von schroedinger I ...   ;-)
13:38 < owl> ;) na denn. viel glueck
13:38 < clifford> danke - ich bin schon sehr gespannt wie die sache weitergeht.
13:40 < owl> ack.
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13:45 < owl> ich verzieh' mich wieder... (pennen) bye
13:45 < blindcoder> nacht
13:46 < clifford> bye
13:46 < owl> blindcoder: *g* hi und bye
13:51 < blindcoder> does anyone know if Age ef Mythology runs with winex?
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14:21 < darkembrace> hi everybody
14:21 < tcr> moin
14:21 < tcr> ircing with root is evil
14:21 < blindcoder> moin
14:21 < darkembrace> ooops sorry i forgot -....
14:21 < darkembrace> hi crash
14:22 < darkembrace> brb
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14:22 < blindcoder> tcr: ircing is evil in itself :)
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14:24 < tcr> XD
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14:27 < Darkembrace> re
14:28 < blindcoder> re nossi
14:28 * blindcoder just _loves_ his new CD-Writer :)
14:28 < Darkembrace> ;) hab mich endlich ma dazu bewogen den umgang mit irc zu lernen
14:28 < blindcoder> braver junge
14:28 < Darkembrace> *g*
14:29 < Darkembrace> sag ma ich kann mit stone ja auch von nem server updaten oder=
14:29 < blindcoder> mkisofs braucht mittlerweile laenger als cdrecord >_<
14:29 < blindcoder> theoretisch...
14:29 < Darkembrace> wie du hast des no ned ausprobiert?
14:29 < blindcoder> noe
14:29 < blindcoder> ich hab nur eine 1.7 Kiste momentan
14:29 < blindcoder> und des is mein router
14:30 < Darkembrace> sag ma kann es sein das du listdc++-devel vergessen hast?
14:30 < blindcoder> nein
14:30 < Darkembrace> da beschwert sich ndmlich mein licq
14:30 < blindcoder> licq nutzt ne alte C++ API
14:30 * clifford hat letzte woche einen cd-basierenden router gebaut. 15 MB auf CD - die 10 sekunden warten vorm brennen dauern laenger als das brennen selbst ...
14:30 < blindcoder> apply den patch der dabei ist
14:31 < blindcoder> clifford: ja, genau das meine ich mit warten :)
14:31 < Darkembrace> ok isch gugg amal
14:31 < tcr> ah, good to see you clifford. question: in 1.5 is a patch called 'bashline', in 1.7 too?
14:31 < tcr> or are you even the responsible person?
14:32 < clifford> what's this 'bashline' patch? I don't have it in 1.7 ..
14:34 < Darkembrace> blincoder: wo krieg ich den patch her?
14:34 < blindcoder> Darkembrace: warte
14:35 < Darkembrace> brb ....gettin some coffee
14:35 < blindcoder> Darkembrace: http://scavenger.homeip.ned/licq-gcc3.patch
14:35 < tcr> haven't had a closer look.. so i dunno what it should solve, but it seems it produces a new bug: when typing ./di<tab><tab> it expands to ./dir, instead of ./dir/ -- that's quite annoying since you have to put a slash to it yourself
14:35 < blindcoder> Darkembrace: http://scavenger.homeip.net/licq-gcc3.patch
14:35 < Darkembrace> thx ;)
14:36 < tcr> clifford: i'm just looking for the responsible person...
14:37 < clifford> tcr: this is a bug which has been introduced in bash-2.05b and is fixed by ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/bash/bash-2.05b-patches/bash205b-003.
14:38 < clifford> huebi is 1.5 maintainer.
14:38 < Darkembrace> blindcoder: doesn't work ..... wrong filename??
14:38 < blindcoder> mom
14:39 < blindcoder> Darkembrace: now it does
14:39 < blindcoder> same filename
14:40 < blindcoder> forgot to mount /var/www to my workstation
14:40 < Darkembrace> yeah...better ..thx
14:42 < tcr> ah clifford! bashline.patch should solve this issue, but it only works for absolute pathnames. -- will give this hint to huebi
14:42 < tcr> thx
14:43 < Darkembrace> blindcoder: which file do i have to ptach?
14:44 < blindcoder> root@bla:/path/to/licq# patch -p1 <licq-gcc3.patch
14:44 < Darkembrace> ahhh thx
14:45 < Darkembrace> seems to work.....
14:47 < blindcoder> it does here
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14:50 < tcr> mail to huebi sent
14:51 < temr> re
15:06 < Darkembrace> is it possible to update rock vie ftp ?
15:08 < tcr> hm?
15:08 < blindcoder> as I see it, it isn't implemented in stone, but if you use something like ftpfs, it should work
15:08 < blindcoder> *with mine
15:09 < tcr> why ftp? what's wrong with cvs?
15:10 * blindcoder thinking about an OpenGL Frontend for stone
15:10 < blindcoder> tcr: the running system, installed packages
15:10 < tcr> ?
15:11 < Darkembrace> i've never worked with cvs
15:11 < blindcoder> Darkembrace: ?????
15:11 < blindcoder> moment
15:11 < blindcoder> cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7
15:11 < blindcoder> to fetch it
15:11 < blindcoder> and then in rock-scr-1.7 do a
15:11 < blindcoder> cvs -z9 up -PU
15:11 < blindcoder> cvs -z9 up -Pd
15:12 < blindcoder> to update the source-files
15:12 < tcr> so he uses 1.7?
15:12 < blindcoder> that's all you need :)
15:12 < Darkembrace> it would be better to read the man page ......i think
15:12 < blindcoder> Darkembrace: info-pages you mean
15:12 < Darkembrace> it's easier to understand....
15:12 < blindcoder> the man-page tells you to read the info-page IIRC
15:13 < Darkembrace> *lol*
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15:22 < hackbard> morning
15:23 < blindcoder> moin
15:23 < Darkembrace> moin
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15:45 < JustNobody> hi
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15:47 < tomik> hi
15:47 < tomik> what's up with download.rocklinux.de ?
15:54 < JustNobody> germen or english chan?
15:54 < JustNobody> german
15:54 < tcr> english mostly
15:55 < JustNobody> ok
15:55 < JustNobody> thx
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15:59 < tcr> i have to correct myself, mostly nothing is spoken XD!
15:59 < JustNobody> 'hrhr
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16:38 * Darkembrace is going ......c ya
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17:20 < capone> hi
17:20 < capone> j #gigax
17:20 < capone> me dump
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17:41 < tcr> god kväll [anders]. legät?
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17:44 < JustNobody> by
17:44 * JustNobody - Cover Your Ass  - at 8pm
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17:57 < fake> huhu
17:58 < tcr> hi fake
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17:58 < fake> hi tcr
17:59 -!- clifford [~clifford@M094P023.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux
17:59 < tcr> folge von der neuen staffel von futurama kommen grad auf pro7
17:59 < tcr> futurama rockz
18:01 * fake hat keinen fernseher
18:02 < fake> hi clifford
18:03 < clifford> hi.
18:03 * clifford ist furchtbar muede.
18:04 < Ge0rG> tcr: "neue staffel"?
18:04 < tcr> ja
18:05 < tcr> clifford: ich hab nur 3h geschlafen und bin trotzdem hellwach... frag mich nicht wieso
18:05 < zer0_o> womit schaut man unter linux eigentlich divx an ? =(
18:05 < Ge0rG> zer0_o: mplayer
18:05 < zer0_o> ist da der codec integriert ?
18:05 < Ge0rG> wenn man libavcodec mit drin hat, ja
18:06 < zer0_o> *notier* danke =)
18:07 < Ge0rG> hm... die deutsche synchro von futurama saugt.
18:10 * fake hands clifford a steaming, hot cup of 'instant sleep'
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18:34 < blindcoder> fake: ping
18:35 < blindcoder> fake: kommst mit ins Kino heute abend? "The One"?
18:36 < blindcoder> fake: 22.30
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18:45 < owl> re
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19:00 < owl> re
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19:01 < blindcoder> owl: rein, raus... du weisst auch net was du willst.\ oder?
19:02 < owl> blindcoder: tschuldigung. hatte gerade ein paar kleine technische probleme.
19:02 < blindcoder> F***** und Technik :)
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19:03 * blindcoder geht Slayers guggn
19:46 < jn[off> re
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19:59 < esden> good evening
19:59 < esden> ahh ... the lego exibition is over ... puhh
20:00 < blindcoder> and?
20:00 < blindcoder> did your robot work out?
20:01 < esden> it was perfectly working one error for 15 games ... with this shitty lego hardware is it pretty good
20:01 < blindcoder> cool
20:01 < esden> yes
20:01 < JustNobody> esden, you play lego?
20:01 < esden> blindcoder: cinema ;-)
20:01 < blindcoder> esden: sure
20:01 < esden> JustNobody: yes sure ;-) it makes fun ... when it works .... ;-)
20:02 < blindcoder> JustNobody: he plays ass day
20:02 < blindcoder> he's a kid after all :)
20:02 < blindcoder> s/ass/all/
20:02 < JustNobody> hehe like me :) but i'm only 14 :D
20:03 < esden> hehe I am 22 ;-)
20:03 < JustNobody> wow ..
20:04 < JustNobody> do you use mindstorms?
20:04 < esden> I hope the images are in the net soon ;-)
20:04 < esden> JustNobody: sure
20:04 < esden> but the sensors are pretty shitty >_<
20:04 < JustNobody> hmm ...
20:05 < esden> but it is usable after all
20:05 < esden> our robot was working ... it was playing connect4 ;-)
20:05 < JustNobody> yes :) do you have vison command too? i won't built a robot without the cam 'gg
20:06 * JustNobody is sorry for his bad english .. i'm up for 2 days and i'm a geman :)
20:06 < esden> no ... but an other guy hat vision command with image recognition/tracking software
20:07 < esden> and then shooting on objects that it saw in the cam
20:07 < esden> was pretty cool
20:07 < JustNobody> gg
20:07 < esden> JustNobody: /me is polish but living for 10 years in germany
20:07 < esden> but english is depricated in this channel ;-)
20:08 < JustNobody> i'm working on a robot, which you can control from another pc
20:09 < esden> hmm ... that is easy ... ;-)
20:10 < JustNobody> yes, but the problem is the battary ..
20:10 < esden> what development environment do you use ? the lego stuff or brickOS ?
20:10 < JustNobody> i make that all in VB :)
20:10 < esden> YUK ...
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20:11 * tcr wonders where Mike1 remains..
20:11 < JustNobody> i have to use windows .. because i've got an USB ADSL modem ..
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20:11 < tcr> JustNobody: which
20:12 < JustNobody> alcatel USB speed touch
20:12 < owl> re
20:12 < JustNobody> wb
20:12 < JustNobody> the only distribution i got it working was suse
20:13 < JustNobody> ans suse sucks ..
20:13 < JustNobody> and
20:13 < tcr> clear case: it depends on lacking knowledge
20:14 < tcr> it's pretty nonsense to say "it works under $DISTRO only"
20:14 < JustNobody> but it is so ..
20:15 < JustNobody> i've tried it with the same tutorial under slack, rh and debian
20:18 < tcr> As distributions must distinguish between themselves (otherwise there'd exist only one), there are some differences to heed
20:18 < owl> is the CVS working for rock-1.5? at me there's just a "connection refused" layer 8 problem or problem by CVS?!!
20:19 < tcr> it works for me
20:20 < owl> tcr: urgs
20:20 < Mike1> moin all
20:20 < JustNobody> hi mike1
20:20 < Mike1> hi JustNobody :)
20:20 < owl> moin Mike1
20:20 < JustNobody> ;)
20:21 < tcr> aaaah Mike1 dear you
20:21 < Mike1> tcr: hi
20:21 < Mike1> tcr: where you looking for me?
20:21 < blindcoder> hi Mike1
20:21 < tcr> yeah i were
20:21 < Mike1> tcr: what can i do for ya?
20:22 < owl> damn.
20:22 < tcr> a prototype of my update scripts is ready, and i want you to test them
20:22 < tcr> s,is,are,
20:22 < owl> tcr: r u using cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co -P rock-1.5  ?
20:22 < Mike1> tcr: sure it will be an honor, sent them in :)
20:22 < Mike1> owl: you are missing something
20:23 < owl> what???
20:23 < owl> wher?
20:23 < owl> CVS_RSH=ssh
20:23 < Mike1> CVS_RSH=ssh
20:23 < Mike1> :P
20:23 < owl> i already set it
20:23 < owl> but doesn't work for me
20:23 < tcr> what do you get
20:23 * Mike1 testing
20:23 < owl> Connection refues
20:23 < owl> refused
20:23 < Mike1> tcr: btw mike@rocklinux.org
20:23 < tcr> Mike1: mom. I still have to add something
20:23 < Mike1> tcr: ok
20:23 < tcr> nah, i'll upload
20:24 < Mike1> tcr: ok
20:25 < Mike1> owl: anoncvs works just perfect for me here
20:25 < owl> Mike1: thx. now i die or so.
20:26 < Mike1> owl: please dont
20:26 < SMP> sigh
20:26 < Mike1> owl: i can upload a tarball with current cvs for you
20:26 < Mike1> hi SMP
20:26 < SMP> the cvs command goes on _one_line_
20:26 < Mike1> owl: perhaps is something with ur proxy?
20:26 < owl> Mike1: right now i'm not using a proxy afaik
20:27 < SMP> _not_ "CVS_RSH=ssh" and then as another command "cvs -d ... "
20:27 * owl not at home right now
20:27 < Mike1> owl: you are using this right:
20:27 < Mike1> CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co -P rock-1.5
20:27 < Mike1> owl: listen to SMP
20:28 < owl> moment... i 'm moving the dir.
20:28 < Mike1> ...
20:28 < SMP> you _can_ do an "export CVS_RSH=ssh" first, but that's more complicated
20:28 < owl> SMP: you changed it since yesterday, didn't you?
20:28 < SMP> I changed what?
20:28 < Mike1> ./* no comments */
20:29 < owl> hm. yesterday everything worked as expected. but today... hm.
20:29 < Mike1> owl: 1.5 cvs has _always_ worked this way
20:29 < tcr> Mike1: http://www.freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/ROCK-Update/
20:29 < owl> Mike1: hm. then something is strange here...
20:30 < Mike1> simple it will _not_ work without CVS_RSH=ssh
20:30 < Mike1> owl: yes layer 8
20:30 < Mike1> tcr: thank you
20:31 < owl> great. thx. :)
20:31 < tcr> Mike1: please download them, and edit the variables
20:31 < Mike1> tcr: thats what i am doing :)
20:31 < owl> *gna* no space left on device...
20:32 < Mike1> owl: ?
20:32 < tcr> Mike1: and chmod'ing them executable
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20:32 < owl> Mike1: hm. nothing
20:33 < Mike1> hi Freak
20:33 < Freak> hi guys
20:33 < JustNobody> hi
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20:34 < tcr> Mike1: done?
20:34 < Mike1> tcr: yes i have them
20:34 < Mike1> i am looking at the code
20:35 < Mike1> < Keep ROCK rolling! >
20:35 < Mike1>  --------------------
20:35 < Mike1>         \   ^__^
20:35 < Mike1>          \  (oo)\\_______
20:35 < Mike1>             (__)\\      )\\/\\
20:35 < Mike1>                 ||----w |
20:35 < Mike1>                 ||     ||
20:35 < Mike1> very nice
20:35 < tcr> just adapt the variables (mostly in the very first lines)
20:35 < esden> hi Mike1 
20:35 < owl> *lol* as it seems you get a "connection refused" if you have no space left on HD... great... where's the logic?
20:35 < Mike1> hello esdy
20:36 < esden> JustNobody: you can use brickos also on windoof
20:36 < Mike1> owl: so clean up your hd
20:36 < blindcoder> owl: the system refuses you to connect to the HD
20:36 < blindcoder> logical
20:36 < JustNobody> on 2k?
20:36 < JustNobody> i've tried it to day ..
20:36 < JustNobody> maybee i got an older version ..
20:37 < esden> hmm ... no idea ...
20:37 * blindcoder now gone
20:37 < tcr> Mike1: i think the variables are self-describing, arent they?
20:37 * -> esden not using windows ... :D
20:37 < blindcoder> playing Age of Mythology :)
20:37 < Mike1> tcr: yeah
20:37 < esden> blindcoder: gamer ! ;-)
20:37 < blindcoder> see you!
20:37 < blindcoder> esden: sure :)
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20:38 < Mike1> anyways in this moment i am trying to fix oaf so please mom
20:38 < tcr> arghs
20:38 < tcr> mom!
20:38 < Mike1> tcr: no worries i am checking ur code too
20:38 < tcr> nah
20:38 < tcr> not c ode checking
20:38 < tcr> just adapt the variables and run ROCK-update.sh
20:38 < Mike1> tcr: hehe ok
20:39 < tcr> it'll take a while anyway
20:42 < tcr> waiting
20:42 < Mike1> _mom_
20:43 < tcr> joh
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20:46 < Mike1> == 13:45:48 11/23/02 =[3]=> Finished building package oaf.
20:46 < Mike1> tcr: ok now i test ur stuff
20:48 < tcr> thx#
20:49 * SMP -> party
20:49 < Mike1> SMP: have fun
20:49 < Mike1> owl: did you clean up ur hd already?
20:51 < tcr> Mike1: when rock-update.sh finished, check your emails
20:51 < Mike1> tcr: ok here is the question flood first:
20:52 < Mike1> SELFDIR <-- path to wherever my 1.5 sources are right?
20:52 < tcr> no
20:52 < tcr> SRCDIR where your sources lies
20:52 < Mike1> TOUSER <--- also accepts foo@mail.com
20:53 < Mike1> tcr: ok
20:53 < tcr> yes, but only if you have an mta installed
20:53 < Mike1> tcr: of course
20:53 < tcr> SELFDIR is the directory that contains ROCK-Update.sh, changes-list.sh and new-pkgs-update.sh
20:54 < Mike1> tcr: ok
20:55 < owl> Mike1: hm???
20:56 < Mike1> owl: you said ur hd was full so no space to get cvs
20:57 < owl> Mike1: yeah. it was. and still is.
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20:57 < Mike1> tcr: is not working pretty well for me ... mom i will find out
20:58 < tcr> what do you get? respectivle what doesnt work?
20:58 < Mike1> mktemp <-- dont have it
20:58 < tcr> lol
20:58 < Mike1> Documentation/Developer/REGISTER
20:59 < Mike1> tcr: *gg
20:59 < tcr> well
20:59 < Mike1> sorry not my daily build enviroment just a regular workstation
20:59 < tcr> that's good!
21:00 < Mike1> tcr: mom
21:00 < Mike1> yes i am downloaidng mktemp
21:01 < tcr> cvs is installed?
21:01 < Mike1> yeah of course
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21:01 < rolla> re
21:01 < Mike1> re rolla
21:03 < Mike1> tcr: look
21:03 < Mike1> mike@thor:~/test/rock-update > ./ROCK-update.sh
21:03 < Mike1> mike@thor:~/test/rock-update >
21:04 < Mike1> You have new mail (1 messages, 23130 bytes total).
21:04 < tcr> good
21:04 < Mike1> now i check
21:04 < tcr> could you forward to tobrit@freebits.de plz?
21:04 < Mike1> tcr: maybe :P
21:04 < Mike1> yes hold on i wanna read it first
21:04 < Mike1> ... you can run the following commando: ...
21:05 < Mike1> spanglish?
21:05 < tcr> why
21:05 < Mike1> comando is a spnaish word :)
21:05 < tcr> hm
21:05 < Mike1> for command
21:05 < tcr> well commando exist as well as in english, but has a different meaning, though
21:05 < tcr> will fix
21:06 < Mike1> tcr: yeah :)
21:06 < Mike1> i will make a patch for you *ggg*
21:07 < Mike1> ok wait i will run a new test now
21:09 < tcr> hm
21:10 < tcr> ...
21:10 < Mike1> tcr: just wanna see something
21:10 < tcr> ok
21:12 * tcr toilet
21:12 < tcr> *bg*
21:12 < Mike1> enjoy
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21:15 -!- JustNobody is now known as jn[off
21:15 < jn[off> by .. cya later
21:16 < Mike1> nacht jn[off
21:21 < Mike1> ping tcr
21:25 < tcr> re
21:26 < Mike1> re tcr
21:26 < Mike1> nice scripts
21:26 < Mike1> may i tweak then a bit?
21:27 < tcr> please forward first
21:27 < Mike1> tcr: :PP
21:27 < Mike1> ok
21:27 < tcr> Mike1: feel free... I'm commenting it know
21:28 < Mike1> perhaos i will wait for you comments then i try to improve
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21:31 < Mike1> tcr: you have mail
21:35 < tcr> Mike1: wow, the list is long
21:36 < tcr> Mike1: could you please check if all version jumps are recognized properly?
21:36 < tcr> hm
21:36 < tcr> damn
21:37 < Mike1> tcr: not in this moment
21:37 < tcr> it seems to make trouble with ext pkgs
21:37 < Mike1> ack
21:38 < tcr> ok, will take care of it
21:39 < Mike1> thanks :)
21:40 < Mike1> tcr: i am currently writing a ROCK-1.5 report for this week, for rlml
21:40 < Mike1> iw ill try to keep sending reports every week so people will be more updated on what its been done
21:41 < tcr> hm I sent two patches today to huebi, haven't got a reply yet
21:42 < tcr> Mike1: URGS!
21:42 < Mike1> tcr: why don't you sent then to the list?
21:42 < tcr> Mike1: please look into ext-config/xchat/xchat.pz
21:43 < Mike1> tcr: what about it
21:43 < Mike1> und btw you should say xchat.ext
21:43 < tcr> nah
21:43 < Mike1> on extensions all the othe files are created dynamically
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21:43 < tcr> nevermind
21:44 < tcr> see
21:44 < Mike1> tcr: so what about it?
21:44 < tsa> tag
21:44 < Mike1> hi tsa
21:44 < tcr> it says version 1.8.4
21:44 < tcr> but downloads xchat-1.9.4
21:44 < tcr> 1.9.5
21:44 < Mike1> oopsy
21:44 < tcr> and 1.8.4 is a bit dated anyway
21:44 < Mike1> tcr: mom
21:45 < Mike1> yes my mistake i will correct it inmediately
21:45 < Mike1> thanks tcr
21:45 < tcr> np
21:45 < tsa> Mike1: i still got no reply from huebi...
21:46 < Mike1> tsa: hehe so you and tcr should found a club
21:46 < tsa> hm..
21:46 < Mike1> tsa: call him
21:48 < tsa> no, i won't.
21:48 < Mike1> tcr: corrected
21:48 < Mike1> tsa: is it urgent?
21:49 < tsa> i consider mail a good means of communication. if he doesn't answer, he'll probably be busy with other stuff.
21:49 < Mike1> tsa: ack
21:50 < tsa> Mike1: wel...i have the CRT since about two months or something and i don't like oweing other people money....due to taxes, i'd like to get this done before the end of the year..
21:53 < tsa> anyway...i hate getting mails and being called afterwards if i don't answer within five minutes....so i'll just sit and wait until huebi answers.....
21:53 < Mike1> tsa: ok
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22:00 < owl> re
22:00 < owl> re
22:00 < Mike1> re owl
22:00 < Mike1> re owl
22:05 < tcr> Mike1: available?
22:05 < Mike1> yes
22:06 < tcr> good, listen:
22:06 * Mike1 will be gone in 50 minutes
22:06 * Mike1 listening
22:06 < tcr> i'm calling ./scripts/Puzzle right after fetching a new cvs version
22:06 * tsa will be gone in 100 years.
22:07 < tsa> (most of you too, btw.. ;)
22:07 < tcr> my question is now: is this _really_ needed, since the INDEX file is updated by cvs too
22:07 < Mike1> tsa: :PP
22:07 < tcr> but to go sure i'm forced to do so, ain't i?
22:07 < Mike1> tcr: yes it is, by default the index files that are fetched with cvs are only the one makred with "x" and not all of them
22:08 < tcr> ok
22:08 < tcr> will you come back today?
22:08 < Mike1> tcr: BTW i just sent the report to the rock list
22:08 < Mike1> tcr: no i will be back till monday
22:09 < Mike1> Sat Nov 23 15:08:16
22:09 < tcr> oh
22:09 < Mike1> i leave at 4
22:09 < Mike1> or 16 as you wish to say it
22:09 < tcr> ok, please tell me your ideas about my UPDAE script
22:09 < Mike1> tcr: atm i will just look deep into the code to see what can be included and cleaned up
22:10 < Mike1> one thing that i have in mind is that Variables should no be in any of the scripts
22:10 < Mike1> they should be read from a non exec file
22:10 < tcr> hm. well.. ok, i think it won't matter if the RR article is ready at sunday, monday, or tuesday
22:10 < Mike1> that will make the code cleaner
22:11 < tcr> nah
22:11 < tcr> i don't like having a lot conf files
22:11 < Mike1> tcr: just one conf file
22:11 < tcr> IMHO, an extern file is needed if you >5-7 variables
22:11 < tcr> +have
22:12 < Mike1> tcr: true but hey it would like nicier this way, and i am sure we will add some more vars in the near future
22:12 < tcr> Mike1: i haven't mentioned it yet, but ROCK-update is supposed to be run by cron
22:13 < Mike1> mmm...
22:13 < Mike1> thats change a lot
22:13 < Mike1> -s
22:13 < tcr> actually not
22:13 < Mike1> i will have to check even better on it :)
22:13 < tcr> there won't be any new vars
22:14 < tsa> Mike1: just being curious...is there any reason why 1.5.20 doesn't use xfree 4.2 ?
22:14 < Mike1> tsa: ask huebi he just updated to 4.1 last week
22:14 * tcr wishes [anders] would have time to support us as well...
22:15 * Mike1 wishes tsa wanted to sponsor 1.5 too
22:15 < Mike1> tsa: i will see if i can update to 4.2 _after_ 1.5.20 is released
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22:15 < Mike1> re JustNobody
22:15 < tsa> Mike1: afaik, 4.2 is basically nothing than 4.1 + patches, so the update should be really easy..
22:15 < tsa> Mike1: hehe..ok.
22:16 < Mike1> tsa: did you know that 4.1 is also just mor epatches against 4.0 source?
22:16 < tcr> XD true
22:17 < Mike1> so it will be like hey lets patch the patched xfree source
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22:17 * Mike1 really hopes xfree guys soon will released a clean source and not yet another patch
22:17 < tsa> hm..time for apache-x11 ;)
22:18 < Mike1> tsa: hehehe
22:18 < tsa> you know where the name "apache" comes from, don't you?
22:19 < Mike1> tsa: Indians?
22:19 < Mike1> *ggg*
22:19 < tsa> nope.
22:19 < tsa> the apache project started as a set of patches against the old CERN httpd server..
22:20 < tcr> Mike1: Actually I wrote the scripts to let the 1.5 user in knowdledge what's going on :)
22:20 < tsa> "a patchy webserver" -> apache webserver
22:20 < tcr> Mike1: but nothing against your afford ;)
22:20 < Mike1> tsa: hehe good
22:21 < Mike1> tcr: no worries i will let you do the job once the scripts are inluced on the rock src :)
22:27 -!- tfing [tfing@shagwell.viktorrydberg.studenthem.gu.se] has joined #rocklinux
22:27 < tfing> hi
22:27 < Mike1> hi tfing
22:27 < tcr> god kväll tfing :)
22:27 < tcr> ah damn
22:27 < tcr> i always forget you don't come from sweden
22:27 < tfing> :)
22:28 < tcr> XD
22:28 < tfing> has anyone upgraded to glibc 3.2 ?
22:28 < tcr> bon soir
22:28 < tfing> tcr ;)
22:28 < tfing> (it's in one word in fact)
22:29 < tcr> je ne peux pas parler de fraincais très bien
22:30 < tcr> hmm j'a fait du francais seulement depuis un ans
22:30 < tcr> ai
22:31 < Mike1> 0_o tcr parle français ?
22:31 < tfing> (je fais du francais ...)
22:33 < tcr> je pense, il me faut utilise(?) passé composé
22:34 < tfing> tcr: you can use leconjugueur.com to know how to conjugate a verb
22:34 < tcr> too lazy ;)
22:35 < tfing> about the glibc 3.2, i tried a ./scripts/Build-Pkg -update glibc
22:35 < tfing> and it nearly screwed up my system
22:35 < tcr> does a verb utiliser exist at all?
22:35 < tcr> i know i didnt use the infinitive
22:35 < tfing> tcr: yes it does
22:37 < tfing> it means "to use" btw
22:37 < tcr> Mike1: did you already take a look to the compare_version() function in changes-list.sh? XD
22:37 < tcr> lol yeah of course
22:38 < tcr> understanding verbs isn't difficult for me, since I'm quite versed in latin... and 90% of french words have their roots in latin
22:40 < Mike1> tcr: no not yet
22:40 < tcr> good for you :D
22:41 < Mike1> tcr: ? hwy?
22:41 < Mike1> why*
22:41 < tcr> it compares two version what version is newer
22:41 < tcr> and is implemented 100% in bash
22:41 < tcr> no external command is used
22:41 < tcr> and 0% commented :D
22:43 < tfing> i meant glibc 2.3
22:43 < Mike1> ok
22:46 < Mike1> ok enought work for today
22:46 < Mike1> see you on monday
22:46 < Mike1> have a nice weekend all
22:46 < tcr> ok
22:46 < tcr> u2, cu
22:47 < Mike1> oh
22:47 < Mike1> before i leave
22:47 * Mike1 give a BIG HUG to owl
22:47 < Mike1> now i go
22:47 < tcr> lol!
22:47 < Mike1> cu al
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23:00 < owl> bye. back in about 2 hours or so
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23:22 < tsa> brb
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23:27 < tsa> re
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23:29 < tfing> anyone knows if skaar usually comes on irc ?
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23:32 < rolla> re
23:32 < tcr> tfing: hm.. armjin once said he has gone to gentoo long time ago (but I can't exclude mixing up something)
23:33 < tfing> ok
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23:38 < tcr> re tomik, tsa
23:38 < tomik> hello all
23:38 < tsa> re..
23:38 < tomik> thx
23:39 < tcr> tsa: gods army II kommt grad auf pro7, fall es dich interessiert
23:39 < tomik> pls, what's up with download.rocklinux.de? --> access denied
23:39 < tsa> thx.
23:39 < rolla> üüü
23:40 < tcr> tomik: dunno. isn't localhero responsible for it? if yes, you should contact him
23:53 < SMP> I've shut down download.rocklinux.de in August
23:55 < tsa> GRR.
23:55 < tsa> app-defaults irgendwie kaputt.
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23:57 < owl> re
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