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09:36 < fake> morgen.
09:41 < Lorini> hi!
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09:48 < blindcoder> moin
09:48 < Lorini> moin und bye
09:48 < Lorini> :)
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10:31 < [anders]> lo
10:31 < blindcoder> moin [anders]
10:31 < blindcoder> moin temr
10:31 < [anders]> yo blindcoder, how's tricks?
10:33 < blindcoder> [anders]: could be better, could also be much worse :)
10:33 < blindcoder> have been ill since Wednesday
10:33 < blindcoder> but a few cans of steaming hot tea and half a day without computers got me back up so I'm coding since yesterday morning :)
10:35 < [anders]> blindcoder: *g* can't keep a coder away from the 'puter for long, that is for schure.. :)
10:35 < blindcoder> and how are you?
10:37 < [anders]> not too bad.. not finding out about the contract negotiations until next week now..
10:38 < blindcoder> why not until next week?
10:40 < [anders]> the guy dealing with it in procurement is not in until then.. he decidced to take thursday/friday off..
10:41 < blindcoder> oh... timing...
10:42 < blindcoder> brb... IRQ by dog
10:46 < blindcoder> ack
10:46 < blindcoder> and gone again
10:47 < [anders]> timing yes.. good no.. but hopefully he will verdict in my favour..
10:47 < blindcoder> gotta get my grandpa from the oyo-doc
10:47 < blindcoder> gotta get my grandpa from the eye-doc
10:47 < [anders]> :)
10:47 < blindcoder> I wish you good luck [anders] !
10:47 < blindcoder> see you later!
10:52 < [anders]> cya later blindcoder. take it easy when collecting your gandfather..
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11:59 < esden> hi all
12:07 < blindcoder> re
12:08 < blindcoder> [anders]: he's still alive (even after leaving my car :)
12:09 < esden> blindcoder: wonders happen
12:09 < esden> ;-)
12:10 < blindcoder> esden: sure :)
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12:16 < esden> weee !!! : http://www.fredart.com/fredart/co_graphics/lain-otakon.jpg
12:19 < blindcoder> endethat's an old one isn't it?
12:20 < esden> yes very old ... one can see it in the quality ;-)
12:20 < blindcoder> esden: okay, then I know it already :)
12:20 < esden> fred is much better these days
12:20 < blindcoder> esden: yupp.
12:21 < blindcoder> esden: btw: do you know a way to do something like pstree just with ls?
12:21 < esden> wawawawawa ... *jumparound* : http://www.fredart.com/fredart/co_graphics/kimiko-idol.jpg
12:21 < esden> urgh ...
12:21 < blindcoder> esden: I need an easy way te create a recursive directory listing
12:21 < esden> I saw something like this ...
12:23 < esden> blindcoder: tree
12:23 < esden> /usr/bin/tree
12:24 < blindcoder> esden: thanks. Just remembered to simply have a look at google.com/linux :)
12:24 < blindcoder> esden:  a search for ls tree gives you tree as first result :)
12:24 < esden> i typed first man ls ... found nothing ... and then typed tre<tab> ;-)
12:25 < blindcoder> as long as the result is correct :)
12:25 < blindcoder> *ARGH*
12:25 < blindcoder> IDIOTS! IDIOTS! NOTHING BUT BLOODY IDIOTS!!
12:26 < blindcoder> esden: someone sending to me regarding my anime-FTP:
12:26 < blindcoder> "Can you email me a txt version of the stuff you have?"
12:26 < blindcoder> And what does HE do??
12:26 < blindcoder>   A     4 Anime.xls ( *) [applica/vnd.ms-exc, base64, 25K]
12:27 < blindcoder> *AARRGGHH*
12:27 -!- LoriAW is now known as Lorini
12:27 < blindcoder> hi Lorini
12:27 < Lorini> hi blindcoder :)
12:27 < Lorini> weekend :)
12:29 < blindcoder> Lorini: sure :)
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12:38 < esden> argh ... I want to print something ... and this fscking win2k is not able to communicate with the printer ... even if it is on ... connected ... and worked half an hour ago >_<
12:38 < esden> I will kill it !
12:38 < esden> hi Lorini *hug*
12:38 < esden> blindcoder: do you have access to a color laser printer ?
12:38 < Lorini> hi esden.. *hug*
12:39 < blindcoder> esden: unfortunately, no
12:39 < esden> aaaarrrggghh !!!
12:39 < esden> or a mesh printer ? ;-)
12:39 < blindcoder> the last one I had access to got burnt by a stupid "Schlipstraeger" who put InkJet-"Folien" into it
12:40 < esden> AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH !!! he should pay it !
12:42 < blindcoder> esden: he got laid off (there was a DIN A3-Poster saying: "DO NOT INSERT INKJET-"Folien")
12:44 < blindcoder> esden: do you know what these beasts cost around 2.5 years ago?
12:44 < esden> you mean do not insert inkjet transparency ? can it be ?
12:45 < blindcoder> I don't know the english word anymore >_<
12:46 * blindcoder now re-recording his CD-Collection
12:46 < owl> moin
12:47 < blindcoder> moin owl
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12:48 < blindcoder> owl: there won't be ANY Subway/Tram/Bus/S-Bahn on Monday in Munich
12:48 < esden> servoes owli
12:48 < Lorini> hi owl
12:48 < esden> blindcoder: why ?
12:48 < owl> blindcoder: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS?°!
12:48 < owl> hi blindcoder, esden, Lorini
12:48 < blindcoder> esden: Warnstreiks
12:49 < owl> blindcoder: are they totally insane?!
12:49 < esden> owl: you can now play aszlig and "latsch" all the way through munich
12:49 < blindcoder> owl: heard it in the News on the radio (you don't lusten to radio, do you?) today
12:49 < Lorini> seid doch froh, müsst ihr nicht arbeiten
12:49 < owl> esden: i won't. easier way: go to doctor and get a "krankschriebung"
12:49 < blindcoder> Lorini: doch, muessen wir trotzdem!
12:49 < Lorini> hm ok, dann is scheiße
12:49 < owl> Lorini: arbeiten muessen wir. aber laufen, taxi fahren oder sonst was auch..
12:50 < blindcoder> ich fahr mitm auto
12:50 < Lorini> ausnahmsweise mal autofahren?
12:50 * owl wants to know when the fscking deutsche bahn  will have warnstreiks
12:50 < blindcoder> Lorini: ab MI waer ich sowieso auto
12:50 < owl> blindcoder: have fun. ich geh zum arzt... wahrscheinlich...
12:50 < blindcoder> owl: danke...
12:51 < Lorini> naja aber dann wird am montag auch lustig viel verkehr sein.. noch mehr als sosnt
12:51 < owl> jep.
12:51 < blindcoder> Lorini: aber net um 05.30 :)
12:51 * Lorini findet, es sollten mal _alle_ leute aus _allen_ branchen am selben tag streiken.. _das_ wär lustig
12:52 < blindcoder> schon
12:52 < Lorini> blindcoder: warum fährst du eigentlich so früh los?
12:52 < blindcoder> aber keiner wuerds merken
12:52 < blindcoder> Lorini: weil ich um 07.30 @work sein muss
12:52 < Lorini> oh doch, das glaub ich schon dass das jemand merken würde :)
12:52 * -> esden booting natalie ;-)
12:54 < Lorini> lol?
12:54 * -> esden is really booting natalie
12:54 < Lorini> ich hoffe natalie is kein mädchen
12:55 < esden> noch ist es 
12:55 < Lorini> ahja..
12:55 < blindcoder> Lorini: sein Lappy
12:55 < esden> ein ganz liebes ... schoenes ... suesses ... und starkes maedchen
12:55 < esden> noe mein lappy heisst lain
12:55 < blindcoder> esden: sowas gibts net :P
12:55 < Lorini> lain?!
12:55 < Lorini> natalie?
12:55 < Lorini> aha
12:56 < Lorini> mein pc heißt "schrottkiste" oder, wenn man lieb sein will, "blechhaufen"
12:56 < esden> und mein router heisst naru
12:56 < blindcoder> wieso schmeisst ihn dann net weg?
12:56 < owl> esden: *lol*
12:56 < blindcoder> wenn er 'schrott' ist?
12:56 < Lorini> blindy: ist er ja nicht, er heißt nur so
12:56 < esden> und natalie ist meine alpha ... mein liebling 
12:57 * -> esden knuddelt natalie
12:57 < Lorini> blindcoder: man darf nicht zu lieb zu ihm sein, er ist ein kerl, die vertragen das net
12:57 < owl> Lorini: full ack
12:57 < Lorini> ;)
12:57 < esden> owl: ruhe !
12:58 < blindcoder> und die Frauen lassen es sich zu Kopfe steigen wenn man auch nur einmal nett ist
12:58 < owl> esden: was denn? ;)
12:58 < esden> owl kriegt ihre stimme von esden entzogen
12:58 < owl> esden: haha. :P
12:58 < esden> blindcoder: full ack
12:58 < esden> owl zu den toepfen _SOFFORT_
12:58 < Lorini> blindcoder: och.. nö.. nicht wirklich
12:58 < owl> Lorini: wir muessen uns verbuenden gegen diese schrecklichen maenner her...
12:58 < owl> esden: lern erstmal schreiben
12:58 < Lorini> owl: sieht schlecht aus.. zwei gegen.. viele
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12:59 < owl> Lorini: na und? die anderen sind momentan ned da... wie's aussieht... und: gucke dir doch LOTR an... da schaffen 2 leute auch einen ganzen haufen orks abzumurksen... des klappt auch mit maennern...
12:59 < Lorini> AH
12:59 < Lorini> hilfe!
13:00 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-v owl] by esden
13:00 < owl> Lorini: hm?
13:00 < owl> esden: fieser typ :P
13:00 * Lorini setzt sich ne tarnkappe auf und ist für esden unsichtbar
13:00 <@esden> muahaha
13:00 < blindcoder> esden: GUT SO!!!
13:00 * owl sollt sich bei esden wieder einschleimen... ;P
13:00 <@esden> Lorini: brauchst dich nicht zu verstecken ... mommentan bist du noch sicher ...
13:01 -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden
13:01 < Lorini> *g*
13:01 < Lorini> ich würde gerne meinen drucker dazu kriegen, besser zu drucken
13:01 < Lorini> aber das is auch ein kerl.. der schnallt einfach net, was ich von ihm will
13:01 < esden> owl: nein ... nicht einschleimen ... denn dass wuerde alles noch schlimmer fuer dich machen ...
13:01 < esden> ;-)
13:01 < owl> esden: oh, oh... *schluck*
13:01 * blindcoder sagt dazu mal wieder nur eins: "Computer sind nur so dumm wie ihru User."
13:02 < owl> blindcoder: ruhe!
13:02 < blindcoder> owl: Fakt.
13:02 < esden> blindcoder: nein ... es liegt nur an der konzentration von bogonen ... das ist alles
13:02 < blindcoder> esden: hehe, so kann man es auch sehen :P
13:02 < Lorini> is das so wie mit hunden und ihren herrchen?
13:02 < owl> blindcoder: des trifft vielleicht auf den layer-8 vom bitz zu, aber ned auf Lorini - sie ist schliesslich 'ne frau.
13:03 < esden> was hat das damit zu tun ?
13:03 < blindcoder> owl: Ich sag nicht dass Frauen nichts von Computern verstehen koennen. Aber ich sage dass sie sich genause bloed anstellen (meistens) wie einig andere Leute
13:03 < esden> ihr setzt auf gleuchberechtigung ... deshlb seid ihr zur dummheit genauso berechtigt wie maenner
13:04 < Lorini> esden: nanana
13:04 < blindcoder> esden: vergis es. Owl ist ne Maennerhasserin und dabei wirds bleiben. Also einfach in Ruhe lassen
13:04 < owl> esden: berechtigt ja. aber wir setzen sie nicht ein, die dummheit... weil wir sie nicht besitzen
13:04 < owl> blindcoder: noe. nix maennerhasserin. ... ;)
13:04 < blindcoder> esden: soviel dummh^H^H^H^H^H^HVersessenhei sollte man einfach ignorieren
13:05 < Lorini> owl: nimm mich *g*
13:05 < owl> Lorini: bitte? nein...
13:05 < Lorini> :)
13:05 * -> esden schuettelt seinen kopf und loescht das owlwahrnehmungsmodul aus seinem hirn
13:06 < owl> esden: *g* och. sei doch ned so...
13:06 < Lorini> oh mann... warum macht mein drucker einfach nicht das, was er soll??
13:06 < esden> Lorini: weil irgendwas kaputt ist ?
13:06 < owl> sodale. esden, du hast es geschafft... ich brauche wieder meine drogen... *heul* ;P
13:06 < owl> brb
13:06 < blindcoder> Lorini: weil er das macht, was du ihm sagst?
13:07 < Lorini> nein der is net kaputt
13:07 < Lorini> der hat doch grade eben neue patronen bekommen :(
13:07 < blindcoder> " Ping's 'Overclocked' shirt - pants not required."
13:08 < esden> blindcoder: o_O
13:08 < Lorini> ok yeeeeeah er macht es :)
13:08 < blindcoder> http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/megatokyo/leetware/5c42/
13:09 < blindcoder> "We advise against any attempts to 'overclock' Emotional Doll System PS2 accessories. Doing so will void their warranty.
13:09 < blindcoder> "
13:09 < blindcoder> AAAH
13:10 < Lorini> ... papierstau *kopf auf tischplatte hau*
13:12 < owl> zum geier nochmal!! barracuda macht mich echt noch wahnsinnig!
13:12 < tsa> hehehe
13:12 < owl> hi tsa. ruhe da
13:12 < blindcoder> tsa: hi. Weiter so :)
13:13 < owl> tsa: ausser du kannst mir sagen woran es liegen kann, warum diese kiste - trotz im bios aktivierten "boot from cd" und einem lw, das das unterstuetz (und einer bootfaehigen cd) - nciht von cd bootet...
13:14 < blindcoder> isses n RW?
13:14 < blindcoder> hast dus mit ner anderem boot-CD probiert?
13:14 < blindcoder> hast scrhon n anderes LW getestet?
13:14 < blindcoder> hast du die boot-Reihenfolge kontrolliert?
13:14 < owl> blindcoder: cdbrenner... und ausgetestet: cd-rs, cd-rws, gekaufte cds...
13:14 * -> esden -> pizza (YUM)
13:14 < owl> blindcoder: ja. ein uraltes... des hat gleich gar nix gemadcht..
13:15 < owl> esden: guten appettit
13:15 < owl> blindcoder: sicher
13:15 < blindcoder> esden: an guadn
13:15 < blindcoder> hast die CD woanders getestet?
13:15 < owl> blindcoder: ja. auf meinen beiden notebooks und auf k0y0r0 klappts problemlos
13:15 < owl> gehts
13:16 < tsa> mit genau der gleichen CD?
13:16 < owl> tsa: mit der selben cd..
13:16 < tsa> hm..
13:16 < tsa> im scsi-bios nicht passend eingestellt?
13:17 < tsa> int 13h boot extension krams..
13:17 < th_> worum gehts?
13:17 < owl> genau... bios von 1997... :-// keine updates mehr verfuegbar...
13:17 < th_> booten von scsi-cd?
13:17 < owl> tsa: des ist ein ide-lw
13:17 < tsa> moin th_
13:17 < tsa> owl: oehm.
13:17 < owl> hi th_
13:17 < blindcoder> hi th_
13:17 < blindcoder> owls CD-Laufwerk will net booten
13:17 < tsa> owl: dann auf jeden fall bios-problem
13:18 < tsa> hat der rechner schonmal jemals von cd gebootet?
13:18 < owl> owl: urgs. :-// danke
13:18 < th_> ide oder scsi?
13:18 < tsa> is wohl nen ide..
13:18 < owl> tsa: irgendwann schon mal... aber mit einem anderen lw...
13:18 < th_> wenns scsi is sollte man floppy als boot-device einstellen, weil das scsi bios ja ne diskette emuliert
13:19 < owl> tsa: und da ging dann  nur cdr - so nach dem zufallsprinzip... :-/
13:19 < tsa> owl: hm...kannst du aussschliessen, dass du nicht ein extrem komisches und/oder kaputtes cdrom hast?
13:20 < owl> tsa: hm. kann ich nicht... obwohl der brenner, der jetzt in dem ding ist - und gar ned bootet - in 'nem anderen rechner booten kann :-/
13:23 < owl> tsa: mit dem latein am ende?
13:23 < blindcoder> fuer mich klingts nach ner falschen boot-reihenfolge im bios
13:24 < tsa> owl: wenn die bios-einstellungen ok sind und die cd bootfaehig, bleibt eigentlich nicht mehr so viel, was man ausprobieren kann..
13:24 < owl> blindcoder: ich bin doch ned blind. cdrom, c, a
13:25 < owl> tsa: ja... leider. trotzdem danke fuer die hilfe :)
13:25 < tsa> ..und was passiert? bootet von c?
13:25 < owl> ja.
13:26 < owl> davor versucht er noch auf die cdrom zuzugreifen "failed"
13:26 < owl> also: "booting from cdrom ... " cdrom-lw liest cd "failed"
13:28 < blindcoder> und andere CDs booten... versuch einfach mal die CD nochmal zu brennen... vielleicht ist da was schiefgelaufen
13:29 < owl> blindcoder: er bootet mit diesem LW _gar keine_ cd-rws, cd-rs, gekaufte cds ... aber mit dem alten lw zumindest die gekauften...
13:29 < blindcoder> und das sagst du jetzt...
13:30 < blindcoder> 13:13 < owl> tsa: ausser du kannst mir sagen woran es liegen kann, warum diese kiste - trotz im bios aktivierten "boot from cd" und einem lw, das das unterstuetz (und einer bootfaehigen cd) - nciht von cd
13:30 < blindcoder>              bootet...
13:30 < blindcoder> das klingt fuer mich nach "Ich hab mitn dem LW schon mal so wies jetzt ist bootfaehige CDs gebootet"
13:31 < owl> nein...! das lw das augenblicklich eingebaut ist hat schon oft von cd gebootet in einer anderen kiste
13:32 < blindcoder> schon mal die Kabel getauscht?
13:32 < blindcoder> anderen IDE-Port versucht?
13:32 < blindcoder> von Slave auf Master oder andersrum?
13:32 < owl> ja
13:33 < blindcoder> versuch mal cdrom, a, c
13:33 < blindcoder> oder erstell mal boot-disketten
13:34 < blindcoder> BIOS-Update?
13:34 < owl> blindcoder: dazu ist es zu alt. gibt's keine mehr wie's aussieht...
13:35 < owl> bzw habe ich des letzte, das mir mein handler vor x jahren noch besorgen konnte :-/
13:35 < blindcoder> tja, das klingt sehr nach der Wurzel des Problem
13:36 < owl> urgs :-//
13:36 < owl> aber mich wuerde interessieren warum zum henker dann dieses uralt-1995-lw immerhin noch booten kann...
13:36 < blindcoder> weil: Altes BIOS + Altes CD == OK
13:37 < blindcoder> Altes BIOS + Neues CD != OK
13:37 < owl> gebe mir eine knarre und ich erschiesse mich
13:37 < owl> altes bios (auch von award) + neues cd (in apokalypse drinne) == ok
13:37 < blindcoder> dann waeren wir dich wenigstens los :)
13:37 < esden> re
13:37 < owl> re esden
13:37 < blindcoder> re esden
13:41 < esden> b4k4^n1
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13:41 < esden> hi tcr
13:42 < blindcoder> does anyone know the Kernel Panic blink-code?
13:42 < esden> blindcoder: which code do you have ?
13:42 * tcr hails all
13:42 < blindcoder> Caps and Scroll
13:42 < esden> root partition not found
13:42 < blindcoder> HHAAeEEEE?
13:42 < blindcoder> RUNTIME??
13:43 < esden> hmm ... strange ...
13:43 < blindcoder> after 2 days uptime??
13:47 < esden> lool I searched for the codes in google and the first two are the irclogs of #rocklinux ;-)
13:47 < esden> i mean the first two hits
13:47 < blindcoder> *lol*
13:49 < esden> and that were my postings that contained the matching words ...
13:54 < blindcoder> esden: doesn't matter, seems like the CD-Drive fucked something up after I accidentally inserted two CDs at once
13:56 < esden>    panic'ed. This is to distingush panics from "real" lockups.
13:56 < esden>    Could in theory send the panic message as morse, but that is left as an
13:56 < esden>    exercise for the reader.  */
13:56 < esden> hmm ... first line missing : /* Tell the user who may be running in X and not see the console that we have
13:57 < esden> but there is nothing about the codes
13:57 < blindcoder> yes, so it's been a definite Panic
13:57 < esden> it seems that it is blinking like this always when a panic occures
13:57 < blindcoder> mhm
13:57 < esden> and you can not distinguish the panic type
13:58 < esden> alan wrote a patch ... so you can read the panic message as morse
13:58 < blindcoder> well... doesn't matter... I think it's been something with the CD-Rom
13:58 < blindcoder> If you can understand morse :)
13:58 < esden> blindcoder: learn it ;-)
13:58 < esden> where is the problem ?
13:58 < aszlig> rehi
13:58 < aszlig> *lol*
13:58 < esden> hi aszlig 
13:58 < blindcoder> nah. Need it not often enough
13:59 < blindcoder> mould forget half of it within a week
13:59 < blindcoder> hi aszlig
13:59 < esden> hmm ... you have to let your kernel panic more often ;-)
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13:59 < blindcoder> hehe
13:59 < aszlig> blindcoder: do you type on dvorak currently?
13:59 < blindcoder> panic --help
13:59 < blindcoder> panic: Let's the kernel panic with a random impossibility :)
14:00 < aszlig> panic -h now
14:00 < esden> ssh esden@aszlig -e panic
14:01 < aszlig> System is going down for PANIC now.
14:01 < aszlig> esden: grr!
14:01 < aszlig> *gg*
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14:02 < aszlig> esden: but you cannot panic as user, so the command should be:
14:02 * -> esden holt einen tacker raus
14:02 < blindcoder> aszlig: I betcha you can panic as user :)
14:02 < aszlig> ssh -p10 esden@aszlig.net -e sudo panic
14:02 < aszlig> blindcoder: yeah, but that's pebcak
14:03 < aszlig> s/.\{3\}$/kac/
14:03 * -> esden going with the tacker in direction of aszlig ...
14:03 < aszlig> aiiieh!
14:03 < aszlig> *shriiek*
14:03 < blindcoder> see, you panicked :)
14:03 < aszlig> *runaway*
14:03 < esden> hehe ... that is the best way to make aszlig panic
14:03 < aszlig> urgh..
14:04 < owl> brb
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14:04 < esden> finally ;-)
14:04 < blindcoder> hehe
14:04 < esden> no feministic influence here anymore ;-)
14:05 * aszlig is back again, from hard rebbot 'couse of a panic
14:05 < esden> ok ... Lorini ... but she is not as extreme as owl ...
14:05 < blindcoder> no _stupid_ feministic ...
14:05 < esden> that is ok
14:05 < esden> blindcoder: ACK
14:06 < aszlig> *lol*
14:06 < aszlig> erm..
14:06 < esden> o_O
14:06 < Lorini> was wie
14:06 < aszlig> http://www.google.com/search?q=stupid%20owl
14:06 < esden> rofl : http://www.symlink.ch/pollBooth.pl?qid=02%2F12%2F09%2F192242&aid=7
14:07 < aszlig> *lol* gar nicht...
14:08 < blindcoder> esden: deutsches /. ??
14:08 < esden> jaaa
14:08 < esden> deutschprachiges
14:08 < blindcoder> dacht ich mir doch bei den Untertiteln zu der booth :)
14:08 < esden> it is really good ... not so infiltrated with weenies like /.
14:09 < blindcoder> eheh
14:09 < blindcoder> s/(.)(...)/$2$1/
14:09 < aszlig> blindcoder: sed rules over perl regexp!
14:10 < aszlig> blindcoder: erm..
14:10 < aszlig> blindcoder -> lindbcoder
14:11 < blindcoder> eheh -> hehe
14:11 < aszlig> yeah, but if you include the nick..
14:11 < blindcoder> nerv net
14:11 < aszlig> s/\(.\)\(.\{3\}$/\2\1/
14:11 < aszlig> oh..
14:12 < aszlig> s/\(.\)\(.\{3\}\)$/\2\1/
14:12 < aszlig> eheh :)
14:12 < blindcoder> whatever
14:12 * aszlig has to bug now :)
14:12 < aszlig> :P
14:13 < esden> wee : weasel@apollo:~$ uptime
14:13 < esden>  14:12:56 up 207 days, 15:29,  4 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.04
14:13 < aszlig> urks..
14:13 < fake> morgen esden
14:13 < esden> hi fake !
14:13 < aszlig> aszlig@dvorak:/home/aszlig% uptime
14:13 < aszlig>  14:13:20 up 17 days, 16:27, 21 users,  load average: 0.18, 0.07, 0.01
14:13 < blindcoder> esden: no dnetc running?
14:13 < esden> blindcoder: nope ... I want to reach the highest possible uptime !
14:14 < aszlig> eheh
14:14 < esden> I want that the uptime variable wraps ;-)
14:15 < blindcoder> *lol*
14:15 < blindcoder> 400+ days, wasn't it?
14:15 < fake> esden: i have a rocklinux poster
14:15 < fake> i was at that designer firm
14:15 < esden> fake: o_O ?
14:15 < fake> and installed their plotter
14:15 < fake> and we needed to test the installation
14:16 < blindcoder> nice :)
14:16 < esden> lool ... which image have you plotted ?
14:16 < fake> and i _accidentaly_ had an .eps version of the rocklinux logo with me
14:16 < aszlig> hehe
14:16 < esden> _accidentaly_ ... lool
14:16 < fake> 1270mm
14:16 < fake> broad
14:16 < fake> that's bigger than A1
14:16 < aszlig> whew..
14:16 < esden> A0 ?
14:16 < fake> esden: not sure
14:17 < blindcoder> 1.27 meters?
14:17 < aszlig> maybe, you should put that one in bitz..
14:17 < aszlig> brb :Q
14:17 < esden> is it as big as the kernel poster ?
14:17 < fake> well... yes. or was it 1720mm?
14:17 < blindcoder> aszlig: are you insane?
14:17 < fake> esden: broader.
14:17 < esden> aszlig: NO NO WAY
14:17 * fake could print real flags
14:17 < blindcoder> owl is SMS-bombing me
14:17 < esden> what ? !!
14:18 < esden> argh ... we need a rocklinux flag !
14:18 < esden> ;-)
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14:18 < owl> re
14:18 < aszlig> rehi
14:18 < fake> esden: 10 EUR / square meter
14:18 < fake> zum unkostenpreis
14:18 < fake> *g*
14:18 < esden> WEEE
14:18 < aszlig> hehe
14:18 < fake> weil ich so nen schoenen fileserver gemacht hab  ;)
14:19 < esden> fake: ok ... will you have the flag ready for 19c3 ?
14:19 < esden> ;-)
14:19 < fake> esden: if we put together some money...
14:19 < esden> yo I am in
14:19 < fake> up to 30m in lenght, btw *g*
14:19 < blindcoder> esden: btw. Who asks Kawaii about the penguin? I doubt she'll listen to me :)
14:19 < esden> urgh !!!
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14:20 < esden> blindcoder: I have already asked
14:20 < blindcoder> esden: and?
14:20 < esden> and we will get the penguin
14:20 < blindcoder> esden: sw33t :)
14:20 < esden> but she needs to fix him in some place ...
14:20 < blindcoder> *LOOOL*
14:20 < esden> because he got a hole ;-)
14:20 * fake thinking about a text to put on the flag
14:20 < blindcoder> what has she DONE to the poor penguin!?
14:21 < fake> "i don't know what to write onto this flag [rocklinuxlogo]"
14:21 < aszlig> fake: hrm..
14:21 < esden> lol
14:21 < blindcoder> fake: undescribable :)
14:21 < esden> no ... 
14:21 < esden> fake: ask the firm ... they are designers ;-)
14:21 < aszlig> fake: write a md5 checksum of all rocklinux devels onto it ;)
14:21 < tcr> fake: mathilda of course!
14:22 < fake> that's good!
14:22 < esden> ahh ... yes mathilda
14:22 < fake> mathilda!
14:22 < blindcoder> or some BranF*ck Code :)
14:22 < esden> ascii mathilda
14:22 < fake> naaargh! i should have thought about that an hour ago
14:22 < esden> saying muhh
14:22 < aszlig> yeah :)
14:22 < blindcoder> that's autputs "ROCK Linux" :)
14:22 < aszlig> note
14:22 < aszlig> urks..
14:23 * aszlig is very ConFuseD today :)
14:23 < blindcoder> esden: did you ask WHERE taht hole is?
14:23 < esden> blindcoder: no ... ...
14:24 * aszlig is getting a mirror of esdens irclogs...
14:24 * -> esden plugging in his laptop to get icq
14:24 < esden> aszlig: ??? 
14:24 < esden> aszlig: what for ?
14:25 * blindcoder firing up ICQ, too
14:25 < blindcoder> esden: send me a mesage so that I have you again
14:25 < aszlig> esden: just to have a mirror of it ;)
14:26 < esden> blindcoder: kk
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14:33 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini
14:34 * blindcoder just has someone from Hong Kong hooked up in his ICQ... and I can't get rid of him *grr*
14:34 * -> esden found his ccc batches ... /me gluing them somewhere
14:34 < blindcoder> Mine is on a CD-Box :)
14:34 < esden> blindcoder: o_O ?
14:35 < blindcoder> esden: he keeps bugging me on different UINs... in a language I don't understand...
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14:38 < esden> blindcoder: O_o ?
14:38 < blindcoder> esden: you're looking stupid :)
14:39 < esden> blindcoder: O_O
14:39 * blindcoder points to esden and laughs *haha*
14:39 < esden> T_T
14:39 < blindcoder> *LOL*
14:40 < esden> >_<
14:40 < blindcoder> ?_?
14:40 < blindcoder> $_$
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14:40 < esden> o.o
14:40 < blindcoder> -_-
14:40 < esden> ^_^
14:41 < blindcoder> ¯-¯
14:41 < blindcoder> ¯_¯
14:41 < aszlig> @_@
14:41 < blindcoder> that way :)
14:41 < blindcoder> C_#
14:41 -!- jk [~jochem@cc40670-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #rocklinux
14:41 < esden> ;_;
14:42 < aszlig> |\o^o/|
14:42 < jk> o_O
14:42 < aszlig> 'lo jk
14:42 < jk> hi :)
14:42 < esden> muh jk
14:42 < blindcoder> :3
14:42 < blindcoder> hi jk
14:43 * -> esden needs a japanese smeyleys description page ...
14:43 < rolla> grrr
14:43 < esden> hi rolla !
14:43 * rolla is going to kill 1.5.20 install disks :(
14:44 < esden> *no_comment*
14:44 < rolla> why?
14:44 < rolla> > #### Creating symlinks for multi-call binaries ####
14:44 < rolla> > rm: invalid option -- v
14:44 < rolla> > ln: invalid option -- v
14:44 < rolla> > BusyBox v0.60.2 (2002.12.13-09:54+0000) multi-call binary
14:44 < rolla> grrr
14:44 < blindcoder> blb
14:45 < tsa> hm..
14:46 < rolla> busybox should die ;)
14:47 < esden> fake: I have three cdroms for you
14:48 < blindcoder> re
14:48 < esden> ro
14:48 < rolla> esden do you not like the install-disks? from 1.5.20?
14:49 < esden> hmm ... i have some prejedices against 1.5 tree in the last time ... (I know that it is not good ...)
14:49 < tcr> hm?
14:50 < rolla> why?
14:50 < rolla> oh well does anyone in here know busybox really well?
14:50 < rolla> or heck at all
14:51 < blindcoder> I know it can be linked against diet...
14:51 * -> esden not 
14:51 < esden> blindcoder: aha ... really ... ;-)
14:51 < rolla> dang
14:51 < blindcoder> esden: [anders] said so IIRC
14:51 < tcr> why rolla?
14:52 < rolla> because as the 1.5 build goes to do the install disks it copys busybox which works into it's dir
14:52 < rolla> and then links all the comands like ls , du and so on to it
14:52 < tcr> yap
14:52 < rolla> but for some odd reason they all act like they are umount
14:52 < tcr> ?? lol
14:53 < rolla> > #### du -k of the binaries ####
14:53 < rolla> > umount: .: not mounted
14:53 < rolla> > umount: f: not found
14:53 < rolla> > xargs: invalid option -- k
14:53 < rolla> > Usage: umount [-hV]
14:53 < rolla> >        umount -a [-f] [-r] [-n] [-v] [-t vfstypes]
14:53 < rolla> >        umount [-f] [-r] [-n] [-v] special | node...
14:53 < rolla> grrr
14:54 < tcr> hm ...
14:54 < rolla> but this script works for Mike
14:55 < rolla> so he thinks it is my system but I have no idea what could be causing this
14:56 < esden> woot natalie is back online !!!!!!
14:56 < rolla> ?
14:56 < tcr> rolla: hm. ln -s /tmp/du /path/to/busybox
14:56 < tcr> does it work properly then?
14:57 < fake> esden: which cds?
14:57 < tcr> (invoking with /tmp/du)
14:57 < rolla> yes
14:57 < rolla> it is very odd
14:57 < esden> fake: cdrom drives ... that you borrowed me 
14:58 < fake> aw. i c. they were all broken?
14:58 < tcr> rolla: try to make the same circumstances like in the script, IOW try to reproduce it
14:58 < rolla> I did
14:59 < tcr> so?
14:59 < rolla> I cannot reproduce it outside of running the script
14:59 < rolla> when I do it all by hand it works just fine
14:59 < tcr> XD
15:00 < esden> fake: no my mother bought a new drive ... my brother tested only one of it ... or so
15:00 < esden> and I do not know which one it was ... but it was not working >_<
15:00 < fake> grml. thought i could save me the work of testing them ;)
15:00 < fake> j/k
15:01 < esden> cool ... now is ra also online ;-)
15:01 < fake> aw, and i got a 40GB IDE drive in exchange for my old 4GB SCSI drive
15:01 < blindcoder> ra?
15:01 < blindcoder> Roberto?
15:01 < esden> blindcoder: yes a sun fire v100
15:01 < blindcoder> oh
15:02 < esden> but i am not able to get the network interfaces working
15:02 < esden> >_<
15:02 < fake> ra -> god of the sun
15:02 < esden> I am to stupid for that
15:02 < blindcoder> that reminds me that the 9 GB SCA Disk is still waitinng to be worked on...
15:02 < esden> fake: and also the main god af the egiptians AFAIK
15:03 < esden> hmm ... I need a name for the hp apollo box
15:03 < esden> a good name ...
15:03 < esden> a sweet girl name ;-)
15:03 < fake> apollo? ;)
15:03 < blindcoder> Tessa :)
15:03 < blindcoder> Chidori
15:03 < blindcoder> Yukar
15:03 < esden> but the hp is very sloow
15:03 < blindcoder> Yukari
15:04 < blindcoder> Lina
15:04 < fake> slow and old
15:04 < owl> erebos (but not girl name)
15:04 < fake> granny?
15:04 < esden> chidori is cool
15:04 < fake> supergran?
15:04 < esden> supergran ! lool
15:04 < blindcoder> daisy :)
15:04 < esden> I need a name of a anime super granny
15:05 < esden> what was the name of the granny in ranma ?
15:05 < blindcoder> there is none
15:05 < esden> the one that was floating all the time
15:05 < blindcoder> but you could just call it obaachan
15:05 < esden> obaachan
15:05 < esden> hehe
15:05 < blindcoder> or "baachan" for short
15:05 < esden> baachan ... ok it types good ;-)
15:06 < esden> hmm ... I have to update my cc hardware list ... because mike1 is not able to come to 19c3 i will not take the second alpha with me ... but the hp apollo
15:07 < esden> or as from now baachan
15:07 < blindcoder> I'll come with scavenger, crazyhorse and sundance
15:08 < esden> hmm my main intel box is still not having a good name
15:08 < blindcoder> arbalest
15:08 < esden> but arbalest is not femail
15:08 < blindcoder> Gekigangar
15:08 < blindcoder> Nadesico
15:08 < blindcoder> hmm female....
15:09 < tcr> brunhilda
15:09 < blindcoder> give me a minute...
15:09 < tcr> sister of mathilda
15:09 < blindcoder> esden: motoko
15:09 < rolla> grr
15:09 < blindcoder> esden: lina
15:09 < blindcoder> esden: seraphim :)
15:09 < esden> blindcoder: motoko kusanagi !
15:10 < esden> major kusanagi ;-)
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15:10 < blindcoder> esden: jepp, tnhat'-s what I had in mind
15:10 < esden> motoko is good
15:10 < esden> ok ... then I take to 19c3 motoko, natalie and baachan
15:11 * -> esden and three girls ;-)
15:13 < blindcoder> esden: I hope they won't be naked :)
15:14 < esden> blindcoder: they will be in short bikinis ... and make tabledance to gather attraction for our project ;-)
15:14 < blindcoder> esden: well, that's good :)
15:15 < blindcoder> I hope our own people on't be too distracted then :)
15:15 < esden> hehe ;-)
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15:17 < Lorini> hey.. cap :)
15:17 < capchaos> re
15:18 < esden> hi capchaos 
15:18 < capchaos> hi esden and blindy
15:19 < blindcoder> hi cappy
15:19 < blindcoder> hi Freak
15:19 * capchaos hopes you won't take Lorini to 19c3 naked.
15:19 < owl> moin capchaos, Freak
15:19 < capchaos> re owl
15:20 * capchaos deletes Black_-_Wonderful_Life.mp3
15:21 * tcr is listening to Die Apokalyptischen Reiter - Geopfert
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15:22 * Freak is currently playing Jennifer Lopez - I've Been Thinkin'
15:22 < Freak> >;P
15:23 < esden> capchaos: /me will make a man in the middle attack when Lorini is moved to bavaria ... and then change her route to 19c3 ... that is the smallest thing I can do
15:23 < Lorini> lol
15:24 < owl> do svidania.
15:24 < capchaos> esden: No way. You won't get away with it ;P
15:24 < capchaos> owl: bye owl
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15:24 * capchaos wonders owl speaks russian
15:24 < blindcoder> capchaos: who's gonna stop him?
15:24 < esden> capchaos: uhmm ... why ?
15:25 < esden> blindcoder: well said
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15:25 < esden> re Parabull 
15:25 < capchaos> blindcoder: The Weihnachtsmann is gonna stop him. Cause Lorini is on my wishlist.
15:26 < blindcoder> capchaos: we'll just launch some decoy-scripts, and he'll never know until it's too late *MWAHAHAHA*
15:27 < esden> blindcoder: we only have to make a DDOS attack on the santa headquoters ... and then he will never get the wishlist
15:27 < fake> hehe.
15:27 < blindcoder> I have to borrow some Viruses from 'Ghost in the Shell: Man-Machine Interface' then...
15:28 < fake> capchaos: you both are invited to stop by on silvester
15:28 < fake> capchaos: there's a big party at my house
15:28 < esden> good idea
15:28 < esden> I mean both blindcoder, fake 
15:29 < capchaos> fake: Thx! Ingolstadt would be almost right on our way. Let's see..
15:29 < Lorini> öhm
15:29 < fake> and the biggest part of the "south bavaria" - 19c3 crew will be there, too.
15:30 < capchaos> Lorini: Hmß
15:30 < capchaos> ?
15:30 < Lorini> fake: meinst das ernst?
15:31 < fake> (of course, every rock developer is invited)
15:31 < fake> klar.
15:33 < blindcoder> okay, 264 CDs reindexed, almost 1,500 SQL-Instructions and 3 hours of work
15:33 * capchaos isn't a rock developer
15:34 < fake> aehm... every rock sympathisant?
15:34 * Lorini isnt really a  rock sympathisant..... *duck*
15:34 < capchaos> Yeah :)
15:35 < fake> and IOs.
15:35 < esden> fake: perhups we should ask clifford if he would like to come to the party ... it is more or less on his way anyway ;-)
15:35 < capchaos> Lorini is still convertable...
15:35 < fake> that's right
15:35 < fake> Lorini is an IO
15:35 < esden> sorry ... not we ask ... you ask ;-)
15:36 < Lorini> what is an IO?
15:36 < tcr> IdiOt
15:36 < blindcoder> Insignificant Other.
15:36 < tcr> well just expressed in other words .. :P
15:36 < Lorini> <tcr> IdiOt << hm i guess i wont come :)
15:38 < fake> Important Other
15:39 < fake> esden: wow! that was good.
15:40 < esden> fake: sure ;-)
15:40 < fake> esden: i am really impressed.
15:40 < fake> keep that up ;)
15:41 < esden> fake: will do
15:41 < fake> kewl.
16:07 < esden> rofl ... "never stop a running sysop"
16:09 < esden> ahh ... it says ... "never touch a running sysop" ...
16:12 < rolla> ;)
16:12 < rolla> why does cisco stuff have to be so expensive :(
16:16 < esden> cu all 
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16:30 [ [anders]  ] [ esden   ] [ jk      ] [ praenti] [ snyke] [ zer0_o^] 
16:30 [ aszlig    ] [ Ge0rG   ] [ kasc    ] [ qubit_ ] [ tcr  ] 
16:30 [ blindcoder] [ hannes  ] [ Lorini  ] [ rolla  ] [ temr ] 
16:30 [ capchaos  ] [ huebi_  ] [ mayan   ] [ rxr    ] [ th   ] 
16:30 [ chriZzz   ] [ ichilton] [ Parabull] [ SMP    ] [ tsa  ] 
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16:44 < fake> was war das denn?
16:44 -!- Lrrr [~tomatenfi@pD95227D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
16:44 < tcr> -lilo/Wallops- Status note.  We've lost a main rotation server for the moment (which means it'll stay out of rotation for some period of time when it returns).  We should get another one back late this evening if all goes well.
16:45 < fake> :(
16:47 < tcr> :)
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16:50 < blindcoder> is snyke anywhere reachable?
16:50 < blindcoder> aah.. forget it... just found it
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16:56 < rolla> grrr
16:58 < rolla> okay who remmebers how to do date math?
17:02 < fake> rolla: funny
17:02 < fake> rolla: i just now need the same thing
17:03 < fake> the difference in days between two dates
17:03 < rolla> yes
17:03 < rolla> I need to take a date and know what the date was 60 days ago
17:04 < rolla> haven't done this since collage
17:04 < rolla> now I must do it in perl without and cool modules :(
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17:08 < Mike1> moin all
17:20 < rolla> re
17:20 < Mike1> hi rolla
17:21 < capchaos> hey Mike
17:22 < Mike1> hey capy
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17:39 < esden> wee wee wee ... curl is working on alpha withowt dropping cores !!!!!
17:39 < esden> *jumporound*
17:40 < esden> hehe ... cheetah harddisks have a really cool sound ;-)
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17:45 < esden> blb
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18:23 < martin__> hi all
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18:26 < martin__> I'll compile "BT848 Video For Linux" as modul for a TV Card. But I become an error message. Someone here to help me?
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18:43 < martin__> Hmm, nobody here? :(
18:50 < Mike1> martin__: whats the error?
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19:14 < martin__> ...
19:14 < martin__> depmod:         i2c_smbus_write_byte_data
19:14 < martin__> depmod:         i2c_adapter_id
19:14 < martin__> depmod:         i2c_attach_client
19:14 < martin__> depmod:         i2c_add_driver
19:14 < martin__> depmod:         i2c_register_entry
19:14 < martin__> make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
19:14 < martin__> I can't compile the i2c modul ?!
19:15 < martin__> use a drock 1.6.0 with 2.4.18 kernel
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19:20 < capchaos> martin__: Unresolved deps?
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19:28 < martin__> capchaos: what? Hmm, I can't undertand. Sorry
19:29 < capchaos> martin__: Maybe you have some dependencies that need to be resolve 'cause aren't resolved by the kernel automatically?
19:31 < martin__> I don't know. I creat first time some moduls. I really not a hacker
19:32 < th> martin__: what was the commandline u used for build the kernel / modules?
19:32 < martin__> make menuconfig
19:33 < th> that was all?
19:33 < martin__> Yes, I have only change in Multimedia -> V4L -> BT848
19:34 < th> so you did not build anything
19:34 < th> you just configured a future build
19:35 < martin__> For any time Rene (rxr) build a kernel for me. And I'll only crate the modul.
19:35 < th> but you don not create a module by "menuconfig"
19:35 < martin__> I use "make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install" zo build the moduls
19:35 < th> ahhh
19:36 < th> that's ok
19:36 < capchaos> (At least for 2.4 *g*)
19:36 < th> you created a new kernel with it too
19:36 < th> you need to boot that kernel
19:36 < th> do something like cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18
19:36 < th> and enter it in lilo.conf
19:37 < th> rerun lilo
19:37 < th> and reboot
19:37 < martin__> I have build a new Kernel? Ohh, I think, I have only build the modul ...
19:37 < capchaos> martin__: make bzImage is building a new kernel.
19:37 < th> make bzImage builds a new kernel
19:37 < martin__> But it don't compile really!
19:37 < martin__> ok
19:37 < th> you didn't compile?
19:37 < th> i thought you did a "make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install"?
19:37 < capchaos> martin__: Have you done a depmod -a before?
19:38 < th> capchaos: modules_install does that for him
19:38 < capchaos> oh
19:38 < martin__> It work a long time, then there a messengs like depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/lm80.o
19:38 < martin__> and an error: make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
19:38 < capchaos> Maybe he first needs to do a "make clean". Then "make dep && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install" ?
19:38 < th> martin__: just copy the new kernel to a location nearby /boot
19:39 < th> capchaos: he needs to boot that kernel if he wants to use the module
19:39 < capchaos> Sure :)
19:39 < martin__> okay, a take my px to 19c3 :)
19:43 < th> martin__: are you ignoring me?
19:43 < martin__> th: no. i build it new
19:44 < martin__> habe I a new kernel, when I become an error?
19:45 < th> vielleicht sprechen wir lieber deutsch. wird mir zu schwierig, dein englisch zu verstehen ;)
19:45 < capchaos> martin__: If there's an arch/i386/boot/bzImage, yes :)
19:46 < martin__> no, sorry. but it compile in this time ...
19:48 * capchaos kann auch Deutsch *g*
19:48 * martin__ ist sein englisch schon sehr peinlich :(
19:49 < capchaos> martin__: Es ist besser "make clean && make dep && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install" zu machen afaik.
19:50 < martin__> capchaos: Ja, ich mach es gerade in der Reinfolge. Habe noch nie wirklich einen Kernel allein bauen muessen.
19:50 < capchaos> martin__: Das erste Mal ist immer schoen. [tm] *g*
19:51 < th> ich mach immer dep vor clean
19:51 < capchaos> Das ist gleich...
19:51 < martin__> okay, habe aber wieder den gleichen error :(
19:51 < martin__> Aber ich hab jetzt ein bzImage
19:52 < martin__> Kann ich nicht einfach das mir fehlende Modul in den aktuellen Kernel reinkompelieren?
19:52 < th> hast du lilo oder grub im einsatz?
19:52 < martin__> th: grub
19:52 < th> martin__: zeig mal deine /boot/grub/menu.lst
19:53 < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock/arch/i386/boot # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
19:53 < martin__> timeout 4
19:53 < martin__> default 0
19:53 < martin__> fallback 1
19:53 < martin__> # color green/blue yellow/red
19:53 < martin__> color white/black black/white
19:53 < martin__> title  Desktop ROCK Linux
19:53 < martin__> kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-new root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 ro
19:53 < martin__> title Windoof 98
19:53 < martin__> rootnoverify (hd0,2)
19:53 < martin__> makeaktive
19:53 < martin__> chainloader +1
19:53 < martin__> title  Desktop ROCK Linux <Rescue>
19:53 < martin__> kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 ro
19:53 < martin__> title  MemTest86 (SGI memory tester)
19:53 < martin__> kernel (hd0,1)/boot/memtest86
19:53 < th> ahja
19:53 < th> und im moment bootest du immer "Desktop ROCK Linux" nehme ich an?
19:54 < martin__> ja, ausschliesslich :)
19:54 < th> und jetzt fuegst du ueber die "title  Desktop ROCK Linux" zeile mal folgendes ein
19:54 < th> title test
19:54 < th> kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-test root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 ro
19:55 < th> und machst ein cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-test
19:56 < martin__> okay, wir sehen uns gleich wieder?
19:56 < th> hoffe ich doch ;)
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20:00 < th> das dauert ja schon ne ganze weile...
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20:01 < th> ah
20:01 < martin__> re
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20:01 < martin__> okay, der kernel funktioniert
20:01 < th> martin__: und was sagt ein depmod -a
20:02 < martin__> nur hab ich noch immer kein i2c Modul
20:02 < martin__> viel
20:02 < martin__> Janny:~ # depmod -a
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/char/drm/sis.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/adm1021.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/adm1024.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/adm1025.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/adm9240.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/bt869.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/ddcmon.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/ds1621.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/eeprom.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/fscpos.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/fscscy.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/gl518sm.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/gl520sm.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-ali1535.o
20:02 < th> mach mal ein rm -rf /lib/modules/2.4.18/ und wiederhole das make modules_install
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-ali15x3.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-amd756.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-hydra.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-i801.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-i810.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-isa.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-piix4.o
20:02 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-sis5595.o
20:03 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-via.o
20:03 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-viapro.o
20:03 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-voodoo3.o
20:03 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/it87.o
20:03 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/lm75.o
20:03 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/lm78.o
20:03 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/lm80.o
20:03 < martin__> de
20:03 < martin__> th: aehm, sicher?
20:03 < th> ja
20:03 < capafk> ja
20:03 < th> das gesamt verzeichnis wird durch make moduels_install angelegt
20:03 < th> zeig mal ein lsmod
20:04 < martin__> Janny:~ # lsmod
20:04 < martin__> Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
20:04 < martin__> tuner                   8036   0  (unused)
20:04 < martin__> i2c-core               12768   0  [tuner]
20:04 < martin__> ipv6                  123328  -1  (autoclean)
20:04 < martin__> 8139too                13728   1  (autoclean)
20:04 < martin__> mii                     1088   0  (autoclean) [8139too]
20:04 < martin__> stv680                 22304   0  (unused)
20:04 < martin__> videodev                2976   0  [stv680]
20:04 < martin__> usb-storage            20380   0  (unused)
20:04 < martin__> scanner                 8448   0  (unused)
20:04 < martin__> printer                 5600   0  (unused)
20:04 < martin__> parport_pc             25256   0  (autoclean)
20:04 < martin__> parport                22848   0  [parport_pc]
20:04 < martin__> depmod:         sis_malloc_Ra3329ed5
20:04 < th> HIMMEL
20:04 < martin__> depmod:         sis_free_Rced25333
20:04 < martin__> make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
20:04 < martin__> letztere war make moduels_install
20:05 < th> du solltest meinen vertipper doch nicht uebernehmen
20:05 < martin__> ... ?
20:05 < th> hast du das realtex modul (8139too) auch in deiner kernel-config?
20:05 < th> "moduels_install"
20:06 < th> realtex >> realtek
20:06 < martin__> ich denk, meine netzwerkkarte?!
20:06 < th> ja das is die netzwerkkarte
20:06 < martin__> eine solche benutze ich sicherlich.
20:06 < martin__> haben wir/ich was falsch gemacht?
20:07 < th> ich wollte wissen ob du beim menuconfig die realtek auch in der configuration eingestellt hast
20:07 < th> zeig mal bitte ein cat /proc/cmdline
20:07 < martin__> root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 ro mem=262128K
20:08 < martin__> Ich hab da nichts weiter angeklickt. Nur ist die nicht autmatisch von der alten Einstellung uebernommen?
20:08 < th> moment. hattest du jetzt rm -rf /lib/modules/2.4.18 gemacht?
20:08 < martin__> ja ... ?!
20:08 < th> war das eine frage
20:08 < th> ?
20:08 < martin__> nein!
20:08 < martin__> ja, ich hab!
20:08 < th> gut
20:08 < martin__> alles okay noch?
20:09 < th> und modules_install gemacht und depmod meckert immernoch?
20:09 < martin__> ich habe geloescht, modules_install ggemacht und dann dir depmod gezeigt
20:09 < martin__> aeh, meine lsmod
20:10 < th> reboote mal nochmal... aber ich muss erstmal weg. eigentlich sollten die dep-fehler weg sein... seltsam
20:10 < martin__> mom, jetzt habe ich nur noch eine Zeile. sorry
20:10 < th> versuchs vllt doch mal auf 19c3
20:10 < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock # depmod -a
20:10 < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/char/drm/sis.o
20:10 < th> oder spaeter nochmal und ich logge mich mal remote bei dir ein
20:10 < capafk> martin__: Brauchst du sis.o ueberhaupt?
20:11 < th> *detach*
20:11 < martin__> capafk: eine ernsthafte Frage? Was ist das denn?
20:11 < capafk> bye th
20:11 < capafk> martin__: mom
20:11 < capafk> martin__: Was es ist erfaehrst du in der Documentation/
20:11 < th> vermutlich direct rendering fuer sis-chipsatz
20:11 < capafk> Jo, hat aber auch ned jeder.
20:12 < capafk> martin__: Mach mal ein "find /proc |grep sis"
20:12 < martin__> kein Ergebnis
20:13 < capafk> martin__: Mach mal ein "dmesg |grep -i sis"
20:13 < martin__> kein Ergebnis
20:13 < capafk> Dann brauchst du es nicht.
20:13 < capafk> Deaktiviere es in make menuconfig.
20:14 < martin__> capafk: wo zu finden da? weiss du es zufaellig?
20:14 < capafk> mom
20:14 < capafk> Character Devices
20:15 < capafk> unter DRM 4.1 drivers
20:15 < capafk> SiS
20:16 < martin__> okay, und jetzt noch mal alles von vorne?
20:16 < capafk> martin__: Wenn du besser mit deiner Hardware vertraut bist, kannst du noch viel mehr deaktivieren und deinen Kernel schlanker und schneller machen.
20:16 < capafk> martin__: War es ein M oder * ?
20:16 < martin__> Aber nicht mehr heute Abend, rxr wollte sowieso die Tage ein rock drauf machen ...
20:16 < martin__> M = modul, * = fest im Kernel ?!
20:17 < martin__> !
20:17 < capafk> Jep.
20:17 < capafk> "ein rock drauf machen" <- ?
20:17 < martin__> gibt es denn schon rock 2.0 rc xx ? ich hab nicht ganz zugeoert.
20:17 < capafk> nein
20:18 < martin__> Er wollte es noch vor dem 19C3 testen und ich wollte meinen sowieso neu machen.
20:18 < capafk> Naja, mach halt alles ohne SiS nochmal, wird schon funzen.
20:18 < capafk> martin__: 19c3 ist ja noch Ewigkeiten hin!
20:18 < capafk> *g*
20:18 < martin__> Kann ich eigentlich auch einfach einen Kernel von kernel.org laden und ihn installieren?
20:18 < capafk> martin__: Ja, sicher. Als source...
20:19 < capafk> martin__: finger @kernel.org zeigt dir die aktuellen Kernel
20:19 < capafk> martin__: wget -c http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.20.tar.bz2 laedt dir den aktuellen Kernel.
20:20 < martin__> und den koennte ich dann genau so installieren? muesste mir nur die konfiguration vom alten merken?
20:20 < capafk> Jo, genau.
20:21 < capafk> Wenn du vorher einen 2.4.x hattest und jetzt einen neueren 2.4.x installieren willst, kannst du einfach die .config rueberkopieren.
20:21 < martin__> okay, danke. Das werd ich dann wohl am WE mal testen
20:21 < capafk> und make oldconfig machen
20:21 < capafk> Es ist bereits WE :)
20:22 < martin__> muesste ich dann auch den link /usr/src/linux auf meinen neuen kernel machen?
20:23 < capafk> Nicht unbedingt.
20:23 < capafk> martin__: Mach mal einen /exec -o uname -a
20:25 < martin__> was?
20:26 < capafk>  /exec -o uname -a
20:26 < capafk> Hier im IRC client.
20:26 < martin__> Linux Janny 2.4.18 #6 Fri Dec 13 18:33:31 CET 2002 i686 unknown
20:26 < martin__> sag das doch :)
20:26 < capafk> ;)
20:26 < capafk> Linux eshaton 2.4.21-pre1 #2 Mit Dez 11 23:36:13 CET 2002 i686 unknown
20:27 < capafk> Hey, ich reise durch die Zeit *ggg*
20:27 < martin__> Darf man fragen, woher du bist und ob ich dich hier schon oefters gesehen hab?
20:28 < martin__> Ohh, Systemzeit einstellen ist unter linux schrecklich, wenn er sie nicht aus dem Internet holt.
20:28 < capafk> martin__: Von der Erde. Ich weiss nicht ob du mich gesehen hast, meine telepathischen Faehigkeiten reichen nicht ganz aus.
20:28 < martin__> capafk: lol
20:28 < martin__> Bist auf dem 19C3 ?
20:28 < capafk> martin__: Meine Systemzeit ist fuer user ganz normal eingestellt, nur uname rafft's ned.
20:28 < capafk> capchaos@eshaton:~$ date
20:28 < capafk> Fre Dez 13 20:28:41 CET 2002
20:29 < capafk> Ist doch richtig, oder?
20:29 < martin__> martin@Janny:~ > date
20:29 < martin__> Fre Dez 13 19:21:11 CET 2002
20:29 < capafk> hehe
20:29 < martin__> Ja, deine schon
20:29 * capafk and martin__ are time travellers.
20:29 * martin__ freud sich, dass sein kernel neu ist :)
20:30 < capafk> martin__: Jetzt weisst du ja wie's geht :)
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20:30 < capafk> hi tcr
20:30 < martin__> wieder nach /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-test kopieren. oder alten erst loeschen?
20:30 < capafk> martin__: BTW, ich bin nicht auf dem 19c3, leider.
20:30 < martin__> capafk: schade, keine Gesichter sehen :(
20:30 < capafk> martin__: Kopieren sollte ueberschreiben.
20:31 < capafk> martin__: Aber es kommen die viele von hier dahin.
20:31 < capafk> -die
20:31 < tcr> re all
20:31 * capafk ist jetzt aber wirklich afk
20:32 < martin__> hi tcr
20:32 < martin__> shutdown -r now
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20:34 < capone> hi
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20:40 < martin__> re
20:41 < capafk> hey capone, re martin__
20:42 < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock # depmod -a
20:42 < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock #
20:42 < capafk> martin__: *g*
20:42 < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock # modprobe i2c
20:42 < martin__> modprobe: Can't locate module i2c
20:43 < capafk> "Linux is the worst OS ever. But I've not seen a better one."
20:43 < capafk> martin__: Hm
20:44 < martin__> capafk: Wollen wir es fuer heute sein lassen?
20:44 < capafk> martin__: Niemals!
20:44 < capafk> martin__: Wofuer brauchst du i2c ?
20:45 < martin__> capafk: Fuer die TV Karte im Rechner ...
20:45 < capafk> Aso
20:46 < capafk> martin__: Was sagt grep I2C .config ?
20:46 < martin__> capafk: http://www.linuxnetmag.com/de/issue5/m5tvkarte1.html z. B. oder google
20:46 < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock # grep I2C .config
20:46 < martin__> # I2C support
20:46 < martin__> CONFIG_I2C=m
20:46 < martin__> CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=m
20:46 < martin__> # CONFIG_I2C_PHILIPSPAR is not set
20:46 < martin__> # CONFIG_I2C_ELV is not set
20:46 < martin__> # CONFIG_I2C_VELLEMAN is not set
20:46 < martin__> CONFIG_I2C_ALGOPCF=m
20:46 < martin__> # CONFIG_I2C_ELEKTOR is not set
20:46 < martin__> CONFIG_I2C_CHARDEV=m
20:46 < martin__> CONFIG_I2C_PROC=m
20:46 < martin__> # CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT is not set
20:47 < Mike1> re all
20:47 < capafk> martin__: Hat das "make modules && make modules_install" einweindfrei gefunzt?
20:47 < capafk> re Mike1
20:47 * Mike1 wonders if _ALL_ this flood is necesary
20:47 < capafk> Mike1: Hmm, I guess no.
20:48 < capafk> martin__: Kannst auch in #Discordia flooden ;)
20:48 < martin__> capafk: mom Telefon. sorry
20:49 < Mike1> btw not trying to offend anyone, i just think is _TOO_MUCH_ flood
20:49 < capafk> Well, yes.
20:50 < tcr> grep I2C .config | grep -v '^#'
20:50 < Mike1> but of course is just my opinion and no one else has complaied about it
20:50 < tcr> hmm actually i don't care much
20:51 < tcr> still not having my account >_<
20:51 < Mike1> poor acountless tcr
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20:58 < blindcod1r> hi hi and rehi
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21:01 < martin__> capafk: ja (noch immer am  Telefon ...)
21:27 < rolla> Mike
21:33 < martin__> re
21:34 < martin__> capafk: ja, make modules && make modules_install funktionierte ohne Fehler
21:36 < capafk> martin__: Bin mal AFK. Lorini ist da :-)
21:37 * martin__ teste mit neuen Kerneln rum und geht dann mal. Danke capafk!!!
21:37 < martin__> gn8
21:38 * martin__ is away: I'm busy
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22:36 < Mike1> re all
22:36 < Mike1> rolla: did you need to talk to me?
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22:45 < rolla> not really
22:45 < rolla> just saying hi
22:48 < Mike1> oh
22:49 < Mike1> hi rolla
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23:53 < Mike1> n8 all
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23:56 < netcrow> hi rockers ;)
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