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00:41 < owl> gn8
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03:11 < tsa> n8
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04:12 < dennis> gn8...
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06:09 < rolla_> re all
06:13 < dennis> re
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09:52 < Mike1> moin all
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10:06 < temr> tag
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12:24 < owl> re and off again. gn8
12:29 < esden> morgen
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13:07 < martin__> hi
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13:59 * tcr hails all
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15:36 < owl> re
16:23 < Freak> lilo is ein absolut abstoßender kerl.. boah hab ich einen hass auf den..
16:25 < owl> hm?
16:26 < Freak> ach erst dass er unseren chan hier geschlossen hat, vermutlich weil "oftc" im topic stand und jetzt kommt er in den gerade erneut umgezogenen windowmaker-chan rein:
16:26 < Freak> --> lilo (levin@elided.info) has joined #windowmaker
16:26 < Freak> * lilo looks in
16:26 < Freak> <lilo> hmmm, you guys moved again?? :)
16:26 < Freak> <-- lilo (levin@elided.info) has left #windowmaker
16:26 < tcr> ... du hast probleme ...
16:27 < Freak> und in seinem ?=)(//&%$§"! netzwerk macht die FSF den offiziellen chan auf..
16:27 < Freak> ich hasse lilo. ich hasse freenode.
16:27 < owl> Freak: warum bist du dann in freenode?
16:28 < tcr> meinetwegen antürlich
16:28 < Freak> mal ganz ehrlich: weil es kaum einer mitkriegt, was fürn arsch er gegenüber einzelnen ist.
16:28 < owl> *g*
16:28 < Freak> und deshalb alle hier rumhängen
16:28 < tcr> weißt du wie egal mir das ist
16:29 < Freak> ich mein ich kann auf alles verzichten, aber ich mach #rock
16:29 < tcr> s,mach,g,
16:29 < tcr> mag
16:29 < owl> Freak: dann setze lilo doch auch ignore. wo ist des problem?
16:29 < Freak> dass freenode sein netzwerk is
16:30 < owl> na und?
16:30 < Freak> es sollte assnet heissen
16:30 < owl> heh! jetzt mach' ma nen punkt"
16:30 < owl> !
16:31 < Freak> ich sag ja es merkt keiner..
16:31 < Freak> keiner stimmt auch nicht, es gibt viele, die in andere networks umgezogen sind
16:31 < Freak> naja vermutlich wird's zeit, fn endlich zu verlassen..
16:32 < owl> bla blubb
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16:33 < owl> *ouch*
16:37 < SMP_> hm
16:37 < SMP_> uh?
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16:38 < owl> hi SMP
16:38 < SMP> *relief*
16:39 < owl> hm?
16:42 < SMP> oh those Aussie idiots think that I stole their bot's nick. they have it take the nick every chance they get - and I kill it every time
16:42 < SMP> minor annoyance
16:44 < owl> urgs.
16:44 < owl> *yawn* i'm sleeping again. gn8. bbl
16:44 < SMP> huh. bye ..
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16:56 < tsa> moin
16:58 < tsa> hm..
16:58 < tsa> anyone tried a 1.7 build ni the last days?
16:58 < tsa> s,ni,in,
16:59 < tcr> i think dennis did so
17:00 < tsa> looks like aterrible mess to me, i can't even build glibc in stage 0..
17:01 < tcr> use 1.5 then :P
17:01 < tsa> hehe
17:02 < snyke> hmm
17:02 < snyke> moo
17:04 < owl> *grml*
17:04 < owl> re
17:04 < owl> esden tried a 1.7 build on alpha, too
17:05 < owl> yesterday afaik
17:06 < tsa> hm..
17:06 < tsa> glibc sucks, it seems.
17:09 < owl> *argh*
17:09 < owl> wtf is the rock-ia32-i686-1.5.20-base+opt.iso (built ext, too) over 880 mb large?!!
17:10 < tsa> hm..
17:10 < owl> ext-built are included in this iso, too, aren't they?
17:11 < owl> (but shouldn't be included there, yeah?)
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17:39 < owl> hi Lorini
17:39 < Lorini> hi owl
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17:47 < Lorini> hey du :)
17:47 < capchaos> hey ihr
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18:27 < rolla_> re
18:28 < owl> hi rolla_
18:28 < rolla_> :)
18:28 < owl> rolla_: how r u ?
18:28 < rolla_> gut watching fussball :)
18:29 < owl> *lol*
18:29 < owl> have fun then
18:29 < rolla_> yeah I know you hate fussball
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18:30 < dennis> hi
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18:36 < owl> hi
18:38 < esden> hi all
18:38 < dennis> hi esden
18:38 < owl> hi esden
18:38 < esden> hi owl 
18:39 < esden> owl: "[17:04] < owl> esden tried a 1.7 build on alpha, too" ???
18:39 < esden> ahh ... ok
18:39 < owl> tsa wanted to know if someone tried a built
18:39 < esden> now I get the context
18:39 < owl> k.
18:40 < esden> owl: alpha is something really different then intel ... OFYI
18:40 < owl> yep, but you need the script too, yeah?
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18:41 < esden> owl: currently the build fails in stage 1 with linux24
18:41 < owl> k.
18:47 < tsa> hi esden
18:48 < tsa> esden: i still can't build glibc in stage 0 - tried both cross and non-cross
18:48 < tsa> (x86)#
18:49 < esden> tsa: hmm .. glibc built on alpha without problems (cross) ... and fake built it on x86 also .. without any problems
18:49 < tsa> hm...strange
18:50 < tsa> i'm using gcc3 only on my system, btw...perhaps that might be the source of the error..
18:50 < esden> no ... I built it with gcc3
18:50 < esden> fake too
18:50 < tsa> hm..
18:50 < tsa> guess i don't have any other ideas, then
18:54 * tsa updating
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18:58 < tsa> hi blindcod
18:58 < tsa> 1r
18:59 < SMP> aaargh
18:59 < SMP> ROCK Install Shell> inst
18:59 < SMP> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
19:00 < tsa> hmm..
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19:05 < tsa> esden: i'll start a new build, then. no cross-build, no cross-cc. let's see what happens..
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19:12 < dennis> is there a iso image of 1.7 available?
19:17 < tsa> afaik not
19:17 < tsa> you're free to create your own one - if you get this fscking beast to build..
19:17 < tsa> *sigh*
19:17 * tsa just started a new build..
19:19 < tsa> == 19:19:10 =[0]=> Building base/glibc [2.3.1 1.7-snapshot].
19:19 < tsa> uh-uh..
19:20 < tsa> GRR
19:20 < tsa> esden: awake?
19:22 < tsa> !> ../config.h:3:3: #error "glibc cannot be compiled without optimizat ..
19:22 < tsa> *ARGH*
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19:29 < owl> *ARGH*
19:29 < owl> i hate this fscking isdn! and proxy! *grml*
19:30 * capchaos nods
19:31 < owl> capchaos: hm?
19:31 < rolla_> ja
19:33 < capchaos> owl: ISDN gets me sick in Kernel 2.5.x
19:34 < owl> capchaos: why?
19:34 < capchaos> owl: Because it's broken most of the time...
19:34 < owl> urgs.
19:35 < owl> someone still has some (2 or 3) harddisks which are smaller than 10 GB? (and sells those HDs)
19:36 < capchaos> owl: Me has a 4 GB hd.
19:36 < capchaos> owl: 100 EUR would be a good start :)
19:36 < owl> 100 euro? you're kidding :P
19:37 < capchaos> Yes. 50 EUR is more realistic ;)
19:49 < tsa> glibc cannot be compiled without optimization
19:49 < tsa> ldfhgjkdfgdfjhgjkdh!!!!
19:49 < owl> tsa: dann fix es
19:57 < kasc> moin ihr
19:57 < kasc> 's
19:57 < tsa> hi kasc
19:57 < owl> hi kasc
19:59 < owl> *gr* i hate ebay
19:59 < owl> which *@*.de adress does it accept?
20:01 < capchaos> owl ?
20:01 < owl> capchaos: a friend of mine sells his HDs at ebay...
20:02 < owl> but if i want to register i seem to must own a owl@microsoft.com address or so...
20:02 < capchaos> owl: hehe
20:02 < capchaos> owl: Why, what does it say?
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20:03 < capchaos> re blindcoder
20:03 < owl> hi blindcoder
20:03 < blindcoder> debian sucks
20:03 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
20:03 < capchaos> blindcoder: ack
20:03 < owl> capchaos: it says "wrong email-address" (if i use gmx.net or web.de)
20:04 < blindcoder> I just wanted to boot a Debian install CD on a SUN SparcStation 20... and it asked for the Root-NFS-Server...
20:04 < owl> urgs
20:04 < blindcoder> owl: yes, they want you to use a no-freemailer
20:04 < owl> fscking ebay!
20:04 < owl> blindcoder: oh great. damn idiots at ebay
20:04 < blindcoder> you could use your homeip.net mail-address
20:04 < blindcoder> or your bingo-address
20:05 < owl> yes. and i could get 1000 spam-mails / hour
20:05 < blindcoder> well...
20:05 < owl> still haven't a bingo-adress
20:05 < blindcoder> I get two about every other day
20:05 < owl> that's a joke?
20:05 < blindcoder> but it can be easuly .procmail'ed
20:05 < owl> @ blindcoder
20:05 < rolla_> ja
20:05 < blindcoder> owl: well... from ebay, that is
20:06 * rolla_ need to go build his alpha
20:06 < blindcoder> owl: anything else... unno... procmail filters it all out, so I can't really say :)
20:07 < owl> hm.
20:07 * owl going to buy a sword to kill those fscking ebay-idiots
20:07 < tsa> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
20:08 < blindcoder> tsa: r u dead now?
20:08 < blindcoder> tsa: can I get your Hardware?
20:08 < tsa> as it seems, it's possible to get rid of all glibc problems by just "export CFLAGS= -O3" ..
20:08 < tsa> i hate glibc
20:08 < blindcoder> hmm...haven't had any since installing 1.7 with glibc 2.3.1
20:09 < blindcoder> 1,050.00 $
20:10 < blindcoder> who pays that much for a pencil-drowing??
20:10 < blindcoder> Okay, it's from Piro, but still...
20:12 < owl> SCH...!!!
20:12 < blindcoder> owl: ?
20:12 < owl> fscking computer.. something is wrong with ko0y0r0... seems the fskcing windows
20:13 < owl> -o
20:14 < capchaos> owl: Uninstalling Windows will help, I promise.
20:14 < owl> capchaos: but i need the fscking win2k stuff
20:15 < capchaos> owl: It owns you.
20:16 < owl> capchaos: nope. not me. but my company
20:16 < capchaos> owl: Oh...
20:35 < SMP> damnit
20:36 * SMP can't get Xvnc to use a sensible windowmanager
20:39 < SMP> (rewriting ~/.vnc/xstartup helps, but I shouldn't have to))
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20:43 < SMP> nautilus is such a crap. I could cry
20:44 < SMP> rotfl
20:44 < SMP> it displays web-pages as HTML source
20:45 < SMP> gee, folks. can we please delay 1.6.0 for another 6 months and get the basics to work
20:46 < capchaos> or remove nautilus *g*
20:46 < owl> SMP: u r working with 1.5?
20:46 < tsa> hehe
20:47 < tsa> SMP: well, i wouldn't recommend running gnome2 stuff at all...
20:48 < SMP> capchaos: I promised myself I could find a dozen bugs within the first 15 minutes I used it
20:48 < SMP> I always do if I try an 1.5 release
20:48 < capchaos> SMP: Did you find'em?
20:50 < SMP> tsa: it isn't even gnome2
20:50 < SMP> capchaos: didn't count
20:51 < tsa> !> "solar87", line 385: can't determine time zone abbreviation to use  ..
20:51 < tsa> anyone knows this from glibc?
20:58 < tsa> hm...commented out
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21:03 < owl> re
21:04 < capchaos> re owl
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22:06 < temr> n8
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22:20 < blindcoder> n8 everyone
22:22 < owl> gn8 blindcoder
22:30 < tsa> aah....nice
22:30 < tsa> build making progress
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22:43 < tsa> re.
22:46 < esden> hi all
22:46 < owl> hi esden
22:49 < fake> morgen
22:49 < owl> guten _abend_ fake ;)
22:51 < tsa> fake: du hast in letzter zeit nen 1.7-build gemacht?
22:52 < fake> tsa: ack.
22:52 < tsa> groessere probleme irgendwo?
22:53 < fake> hab nur base+ia32+x11 gebaut
22:53 < fake> n'paar (fuer mich) unrelevante sachen haben nicht gebaut
22:53 < fake> im bootdisk-target hat nur minicom rumgezickt
22:53 < tsa> hm...erstaunlich
22:53 < tsa> ich hab hier schon die glibc anpatchen muessen..
22:53 < fake> der default-target is pentium-optimiert, die bootdisk generic
22:54 < tsa> pentium3
22:54 < fake> tsa: auf was baust du?
22:54 < tsa> x86
22:54 < tsa> p3
22:54 < tsa> kein cross, kein pseudo-cross
22:54 < fake> tsa: da hab ich einen gemacht, 2002-11-16 oder so
22:54 < fake> warum kein pseudo-cross?
22:54 < fake> is doch jetz default...
22:54 < rolla_> re fake
22:54 < tsa> wozu brauch ich pseudo-cross?
22:55 < fake> tsa: it is built against the target-system-glibc-headers
22:55 < fake> for example ;)
22:55 < fake> rolla_: hi!
22:55 < esden> tsa baust du auf 1.5 oder auf 1.7 ?
22:55 < esden> hi rolla_ !
22:56 < rolla_> I have my two alpha's up now :)
22:56 < tsa> esden: ich baue 1.7 auf irgendwas, was zwischen 1.4.0 und 1.7 ist
22:56 < rolla_> time to turn them into DNS servers :)
22:56 < fake> tsa: ich baue auf 1.7-pentium3 2002-11-26
22:56 < fake> err -16
22:56 < fake> glaube ich
22:56 < fake> rolla_: with rock on 'em?
22:56 < tsa> !> configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files!
22:56 < tsa> !> Check your system clock
22:56 < tsa> *nerv*
22:56 < rolla_> yeah like rock loads on a alpha
22:57 < rolla_> :(
22:57 < fake> rolla_: kick esden *g*
22:57 < rolla_> I would if I could
22:57 * fake is within kick-range
22:57 < fake> (he is sitting behind me ;)
22:57 < tsa> fake: ich versuche erstmal, ohne *cross auszukommen
22:57 < rolla_> do it for me :)
22:57 < fake> tsa: probier es einfach mal nur mit pseuo-cross an... hast du nen snapshot oder cvs ?
22:57 < esden> tsa: vielleicht liegt es daran
22:57 < fake> rolla_: okay
22:58 < tsa> fake: cvs von heute
22:58 < esden> rolla_: I am currently working on the alpha build
22:58 < fake> rolla_: finished.
22:58 < rolla_> if he has a working iso I will load ir
22:58 < rolla_> s/ir/it/
22:58 < tsa> + einige patches von der liste, + nen bisschen eigenes gebastel
22:58 < esden> rolla_: thank you for the kick ...
22:58 < esden> >_<
22:58 < rolla_> :)
22:58 < fake> tsa: you will be 19c3?
22:58 < esden> it hurts !
22:58 < tsa> fake: yes, sure
22:58 < rolla_> I have a third alpha which to test rock on
22:58 < fake> tsa: kuhl *g*
22:59 < esden> rolla_: what kind of alpha machines do you have ?
22:59 < rolla_> to alcor alpha station 500's
22:59 < esden> hmm ... 77 mhz faster then mine ...
23:00 < fake> mine -i 77mhz.gem
23:00 < rolla_> and one I am not sure about
23:00 < rolla_> yeah they are 333mhz ev5 :)
23:00 < esden> rolla_: we could try a cluster build on that alpha's 
23:00 < esden> when I get around the current problems I have
23:00 < rolla_> they are all redhat right now
23:00 < fake> rathead
23:01 < esden> if you come by with them on 19c3 ;-)
23:01 < rolla_> that would be hard :)
23:01 < rolla_> as I am in the US :)
23:01 < esden> rolla_: I had debian on my alpha at the beginning ... it was a mess >_<
23:01 < rolla_> the other box is a 266
23:02 < rolla_> yeah I have had redhat on them since the begining
23:02 < esden> rolla_: yes I know that you are from us ... 
23:02 < fake> CIFS?
23:02 < fake> *g*
23:02 < rolla_> it would be hard to drop by 19c3 no?
23:02 < fake> rolla_: nope. jump into the plane and we'll fetch you from berlin airport
23:02 < rolla_> :)
23:02 < fake> ;)
23:03 < esden> fake: ack 
23:03 < rolla_> that would be nice but I think the wife would kill me
23:03 < rolla_> but thanks
23:03 < fake> there is a chamber to lock them in there
23:04 < fake> for "haecksen"
23:04 < fake> (that's a german word game, hexen is articulated the same way, and means witches)
23:04 < fake> whereas haecksen is the female form of "hacker"
23:05 < esden> https://www.ccc.de/congress/2002/images/maps/19C3-raumplan-transparent.png
23:05 < fake> owl will occupy that room ... *g*
23:05 < rolla_> :)
23:06 < esden> rolla_: we have to protect aurselves somehow ;-)
23:06 < rolla_> ha ha
23:07 < owl> fake: ???
23:07 < rolla_> owl
23:08 < owl> fake: why should i occupy the room?
23:10 < rolla_> you are a female hacker
23:10 < tsa> sure about that?
23:10 < huebi_> moin
23:10 < rolla_> no I can't really back that statment up
23:10 -!- huebi_ is now known as huebi
23:10 < fake> is a celeron p3 or p2?
23:10 < owl> hi huebi
23:10 < fake> how to find that out?
23:10 < huebi> fake: depends
23:11 < fake> cpu family      : ?
23:11 < rolla_> it could be either I think
23:11 < fake> hi huebi, btw ;)
23:11 < fake> which cpu-family means what?
23:11 < huebi> Mendocino = 66MHz FSB = PII
23:12 < huebi> Tualin = 100MHz = PIII (600MHY and more)
23:13 < tsa> !> configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files!
23:13 < tsa> !> Check your system clock
23:14 < tsa> *GRRRR*
23:14 * huebi is very busy with work - I need to make an offer to a huge bank here in germany till tomorrow noon. Nice project. Much PHP programming needed.
23:14 < fake>  /proc/cpuinfo says Pentium III
23:14 < tsa> huebi: !!!
23:14 < fake> so i'll go for another P3 build
23:14 < huebi> model name      : Celeron (Mendocino)
23:14 < huebi> stepping        : 5
23:14 < huebi> cpu MHz         : 467.734
23:14 < tsa> moin
23:14 < huebi> hi tsa
23:14 < tsa> huebi: lange nicht gesehen hier..
23:15 < fake> yeah, my stepping is 6
23:15 < huebi> tsa: rechnungen werden all diese Woch noch geschrieben.
23:15 < tsa> huebi: hehe..ok ;)
23:15 < huebi> fake: flood comming....
23:15 < fake> *duck*
23:15 < huebi> processor       : 0
23:15 < huebi> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
23:15 < huebi> cpu family      : 6
23:15 < huebi> model           : 6
23:15 < huebi> model name      : Celeron (Mendocino)
23:15 < huebi> stepping        : 5
23:15 < huebi> cpu MHz         : 467.734
23:15 < huebi> cache size      : 128 KB
23:15 < huebi> fdiv_bug        : no
23:15 < huebi> hlt_bug         : no
23:15 < huebi> f00f_bug        : no
23:16 < huebi> coma_bug        : no
23:16 < huebi> fpu             : yes
23:16 < huebi> fpu_exception   : yes
23:16 < huebi> cpuid level     : 2
23:16 < huebi> wp              : yes
23:16 < huebi> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr
23:16 < huebi> bogomips        : 933.88
23:16 < huebi> socket 370
23:16 < fake> urgh. ugly thing ;))
23:17 < fake> huebi: thanks!
23:18 * fake will lsd
23:19 < fake> oerks
23:19 < fake> (that was apparantely only a joke)
23:19 < esden> hi huebi 
23:19 < esden> huebi: and have you tested the lcd patch ? *nerv*
23:20 < huebi> esden: hi
23:20 < esden> huebi: I will have the cheetah for you on 19c3
23:20 < esden> after 19c3 you can have it ...
23:20 < huebi> esden: To kick IBM and CA out of the bussiness was more urgent.
23:21 < huebi> esden: great :))))
23:21 < esden> huebi: ok :-(
23:24 < aszlig> rehi
23:24 < aszlig> esden: do you want to start a big flamewar?
23:25 < esden> aszlig: why ?
23:25 < esden> where ?
23:25 < huebi> aszlig: what's going on?
23:25 < esden> what have I said wrong ? *panic*
23:25 < aszlig> nope *g*
23:26 * -> esden is not willing to start a flamewar ...
23:26 * aszlig has found a irc-server filled with lusers!
23:26 * -> esden is in a too good mood
23:26 * aszlig too :)
23:26 < esden> aszlig: show me ;-)
23:26 < esden> aszlig: you mean ircnet ?
23:26 * aszlig is in a good mood, too, so i want to start a biig flamewar :)
23:26 < esden> ;-)
23:26 < aszlig> nope..
23:27 < aszlig> irc.winbeta.org:6667 -> #winbeta
23:27 < esden> or quakenet ?
23:27 < aszlig> i said _ircserver_ *gg*
23:27 * aszlig owns the #linux channel *gg*
23:28 < esden> aszlig: [23:27] -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.winbeta.org port 6667 (Connection refused)
23:28 < aszlig> oh..
23:28 < esden> aszlig: kline ?
23:28 < aszlig> that server has a very bad configured nameserver
23:29 < aszlig> try 66.252.5.223
23:30 < tsa> hm..
23:31 < tsa> hat mal irgendwer hier probleme mit binutils gehabt wegen angeblich falsch laufender system clock?
23:34 < huebi> tsa: Noe.
23:34 < tsa> will sich hier nicht bauen lassen (1.7-dev, stage 2)
23:37 < tsa> hm..
23:37 < tsa> letzter ausweg - reboot
23:37 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD952529B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting")
23:38 -!- lkthomas [lkthomas@nat20-88.mpoweredpc.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:38 < lkthomas> hey all
23:39 < lkthomas> does anyone have a detail manual to tell me how could I install rocklinux from scratch ?
23:40 < huebi> lkthomas: witch version
23:41 < owl> hi lkthomas
23:41 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B481.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
23:42 < tsa> re
23:42 < aszlig> esden: that one is too boring :(
23:42 < esden> aszlig: yo
23:43 < aszlig> esden: that lusers are to stupid to be kiddies
23:43 < esden> lkthomas: which one ? 1.7 or 1.5
23:43 < lkthomas> huebi: I don't know
23:43 < lkthomas> well, I just want to try rocklinux
23:43 < lkthomas> I think I am going to use a stable one
23:43 < lkthomas> does 1.7 stable ?
23:43 < huebi> lkthomas: is it a IDE only PC?
23:44 < esden> then use 1.5 it is the  "stable" one
23:44 < lkthomas> huebi: what do you mean ?
23:44 < lkthomas> esden: well, at least it would give out error, I do use freebsd-5.0 :)
23:44 < huebi> lkthomas: no SCSI inside
23:44 < lkthomas> huebi: no, no scsi , I want to install it on my laptop
23:46 < huebi> lkthomas: ftp://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/pub/linux/rocklinux/iso-images/rock-ia32-i586-base+opt-1.5.20.iso
23:46 < lkthomas> actually, it's "i686" :)
23:46 < lkthomas> PIII-1G
23:46 < owl> huebi: is the i686 option working again?
23:47 < lkthomas> huebi: so can I rebuild the whole base after install it as iso ?
23:48 < huebi> lkthomas: ftp://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/pub/linux/rocklinux/iso-images/rock-ia32-i686-base+opt-1.5.20.iso
23:48 < huebi> lkthomas: of course you can.
23:48 < esden> it would be a nice thing to try compiling rock on freebsd
23:48 < lkthomas> so I would know how to do after bootup ?
23:48 < esden> ;-)
23:49 < lkthomas> LOL, nah
23:49 < esden> lkthomas: why ... it wold be fun !
23:49 < lkthomas> does it have commandline script interface to drive me install rocklinux ?
23:50 < huebi> lkthomas: The Online documentation while installing is fairly incomplete.
23:50 < lkthomas> crap
23:50 < lkthomas> well, I mean, is it have a script to help me install or I need to manually to control it ?
23:50 < esden> lkthomas: but the install is really straight forward
23:50 < esden> lkthomas: boot from the cd
23:51 < esden> 2) fdisk /dev/discs/disc0/disc
23:51 < esden> and create root partition and swap partition
23:51 < esden> mount the root partition under /trg
23:51 < lkthomas> I don't know how to use fdisk, how about cfdisk ?
23:51 * lkthomas never use fdisk
23:51 < esden> lkthomas: fdisk is really easy
23:52 < lkthomas> but I never use it before
23:52 < lkthomas> I don't want to calculate the sector and section
23:52 < esden> lkthomas: for everything is some time the first time
23:52 < esden> lkthomas: you do not need to ... fdisk of linux ist not the fdisk of freebsd ;-)
23:52 < lkthomas> esden: I don't want to mess up my XP also
23:53 < lkthomas> freebsd don't use cfdisk and fdisk
23:53 -!- bluefire [~bluefire@pD9E1C5B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving")
23:53 < esden> lkthomas: wait a moment
23:53 < lkthomas> K
23:55 < tsa> SDFJSDFSDFSDF!°
23:55 < tsa> *ARGH*
23:55 < esden> tsa: ?
23:55 * tsa removing build tree
23:56 < huebi> tsa: Alles gut macht der Reboot!
23:56 < lkthomas> esden: ?
23:56 < tsa> ..in diesem fall leider nicht, huebi
23:56 < tsa> esden: stage2, erstes package - binutils
23:56 < tsa> meckert ueber angeblich falschgehende system clock
23:56 < esden> tsa: o_O
23:56 < esden> lkthomas: mom
23:58 < tsa> esden: ich hab alles versucht...ntpd ttogemacht, datum zurueckgesetzt, komplette chroot getouched, ..
23:58 < tsa> hat alles nix gebracht
23:58 < esden> lkthomas: look at http://www.esden.net/rocklinux/INSTALL if it is enough info for you ...
23:59 < esden> try to use it while trying to install rock
23:59 < tsa> ..und die glibc 2.3.1 muss ich an einer stelle selber anpatchen
23:59 < esden> if it you get problems you can still ask here for help
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