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--- Log opened Mon Dec 16 00:00:09 2002 --- Day changed Mon Dec 16 2002 00:00 < esden> tsa: da ist wirklich was kaputt ... 00:00 * tsa asking esden for help: why does glibc suck so much and why are binutils refusing to compile on my sytem in stage 2 00:00 < tsa> esden: oh, du hast das auch schon gemerkt? 00:00 < tsa> esden: ich hatte zwei sachen mit glibc 00:00 < tsa> zum einen meckert der ueber "cannot compile without optimisation" 00:00 < owl> huebi: a) does 1.5.20-cvs build and boot correct now, b) what's wrong, if i do a build (with opt + ext) and create a base+opt.iso and there is a 880 mb iso? << ext-files also in this iso? 00:01 < tsa> hab ich gefixed via "CFLAGS=$CFLAGS -O2" 00:01 < lkthomas> esden: what are you asking me to waiting for ? 00:01 < tsa> zum anderen musste ich zeile 385 aus timezone/solar87 auskommentieren 00:01 < tsa> esden: was hattest du denn fuer probs? 00:01 < esden> lkthomas: I have answered you already ... see scrollback 00:02 < huebi> owl: the exts are also on the CD image. I'm still reviewing Build-All and Create-CD 00:02 < owl> uh. k. thx. :-( 00:03 < tsa> esden: pign 00:03 < esden> tsa: ich habe mommentan probleme mit dem kernel ... aber es ist ein alpha spezifisches problem 00:03 < tsa> ping even 00:03 < tsa> esden: achso.. 00:03 < esden> ich bin noch nicht an glibc gekommen 00:03 < tsa> esden: wegen alpha und so...soll mein bekannter seine mitbringen? 00:03 < tsa> (19c3) 00:03 < esden> tsa: sicher ... 00:03 < tsa> ok, dann sag ich ihm bescheid 00:03 < esden> tsa: aber ich kann nicht versprechen das ich da nen funktionierenden build bis dahin habe ... 00:04 < tsa> esden: macht nix. 00:04 < esden> tsa: ich weiss noch nicht vie viele probleme auf mich noch warten ... ;-) 00:04 < tsa> esden: der ist sowieso nen BSD'ler, aber er wuerde die kiste zur verfuegung stellen fuer compiles etc.. 00:04 -!- LoriAW is now known as Lorini 00:04 < tsa> esden: dann kannst du nen cluster-build auf alpha machen ;) 00:05 < esden> tsa: was ist das fuer ne kiste die dein bekannter hat ? 00:05 < tsa> pc164lx, 533mhz 00:06 < tsa> (ich habe nicht die geringste ahnung, was das bedeutet) 00:06 < lkthomas> ROCK Install Shell> select */* 00:06 < lkthomas> ROCK Install Shell> install 00:06 < lkthomas> is that what I need to do only ? 00:07 < huebi> lkthomas: ACK 00:07 < lkthomas> heh 00:07 < lkthomas> config X ?!? 00:07 < esden> tsa: ok ... es ist schneller als meine ... 00:07 < lkthomas> err 00:07 < lkthomas> so that .iso have all kinds of pre-compiled binary there ?!? 00:07 * -> esden needs a faster alpha box !!! *jumparound* 00:08 < tsa> esden: *schulterzuck* ich habe von alphas ungefaehr soviel ahnung wie von motorsaegen....also nix ;) 00:08 < lkthomas> well, I don't like binary :) 00:08 < huebi> lkthomas: Compile Rocklinux for your laptop again. 00:09 < huebi> /usr/src/rock-src-1.5.20 00:09 < esden> tsa: tja ... 00:09 < lkthomas> huebi: if I am doing select */*, would it be install all rubish into my laptop ? 00:09 < esden> tsa: ich auch ;-) 00:09 < lkthomas> including a lot of program that I don't need ? 00:09 < tsa> hehehe 00:09 * -> esden off -> home -> bed 00:09 < tsa> cya esden 00:09 < huebi> lkthomas: Yes, everything. 00:10 < huebi> cu esden 00:10 < fake> bye esden 00:10 < lkthomas> huebi: can I have another choice other than insstall everything ? 00:10 < tsa> huebi: upps...deine u30 is hin? 00:10 < huebi> tsa: Aber nur noch bis morgen, dann gibt es erst mal ein neues Netyteil. 00:11 < tsa> ah, ok 00:11 < tsa> 19c3 wird bestimmt lustig dieses jahr...wir scheinen ne ganze menge leute zu werden 00:11 < fake> tsa: ack 00:12 < tsa> grobe schaetzung developer + teilweise bekannte 35-40 leute 00:12 < huebi> tsa: wieviel? 00:12 < tsa> huebi: >30 auf jeden fall 00:12 < huebi> uups 00:12 < tsa> hehe ;) 00:12 < tsa> huebi: weisst du schon, wann ihr in berlin ankommen werdet? 00:13 < huebi> tsa: 26. abends 00:13 < tsa> oh, fein - ich auch 00:13 < tsa> ..dann bekommen wir wohl hoffentlich auch ordentlich plaetze im hackcenter.. 00:14 * tsa kommt damit nach berlin: https://insideag.de/bus/links.jpg 00:15 < huebi> tsa: das denken glaube ich alle. Der hacktrain aus Mainz kommt gluecklicherweise erst um 22h an. 00:15 < tsa> huebi: hehe 00:15 < huebi> 15 h Fahrt!!! Nur fuer die ganz harten. 00:15 < tsa> mal schaun, wann wir da sein werden...keine ahnung, wie fix der bus so ist.. 00:15 * Ge0rG ist heute 7 stunden deutsche bahn gefahren 00:16 < huebi> Armer Ge0rG 00:16 < tsa> vermutlich kriegen wir fuer den bus nen platz gegenueber vom eingang reserviert... 00:16 < owl> Ge0rG: beileid. wie viele std. davon waren verspaetung? 00:16 < tsa> oh, owlita lebt auch noch.. 00:16 < owl> tsa: nein. du sprichst mit owl_jenseits *hrhr* 00:16 < Ge0rG> owl: keine. war so geplant 00:16 < tsa> owl: geh ma kaffee fuer huebi kochen, das ist soo selten hier.. 00:17 < owl> Ge0rG: amen. 00:17 < tsa> s,das,der, 00:17 < huebi> btw ich muss morgen noch 1000g Koffein bestellen.... 00:17 < owl> tsa: selbst ist der mann 00:17 < tsa> huebi: fuer den 19c3? ;-) 00:17 < huebi> Ack 00:17 < owl> tsa: und wenn dir soviel am wohlergehen von huebi liegt - dann koche du den kaffee... 00:19 < tsa> owl: du koenntest dich auch ruhig mal nuetzlich machen....du hast hier ja nicht mal eintritt bezahlt *grins* ;) 00:20 < fake> tsa: what was the error you patched against in glibc? 00:20 < tsa> fake: timezone/solar87 00:20 < tsa> had to remove line 385 00:20 < fake> bei mir spinnt [kill.os] Error 1 00:20 < tsa> hm..auch nicht besser 00:20 < fake> unrecognized symbol type "" 00:20 < owl> tsa: och. wie schlimm. 00:20 < fake> strange. 00:20 < tsa> naja, und CFLAGS hab ich per hand reingebaut 00:20 * fake rauchen 00:20 < tsa> ohne wollte er ueberhaupt nicht 00:22 * tsa ist dafuer, dass owl auf dem 19c3 die koffein-versorgung sicherstellt 00:23 < owl> tsa: lebensmuede? 00:23 < tsa> nein. faul. 00:23 < owl> tsa: nein. lebensmuede. mein kaffee wuerde alle vergiften oder er waere zu schwach 00:25 < tsa> owl: hm...naja, aber irgedwie wirst du dir deinen platz im hackcenter doch verdienen muessen... 00:27 < owl> tsa: sicher. ich habe doch ein windows-freies notebook, aeh. zwei windows-freie... (wobei ich noch ned weiss ob ich eines oder zwei mitnehme) 00:28 < huebi> owl: kannst du mir eins leihen? 00:28 < tsa> owl: bringst du auch deinen windows-proxy mit? *duck* ;-) 00:28 < owl> huebi: koennte ich schon. ich weiss nur nicht, ob mein gericom sich dumm anstellt irgendwie... auf der fensterbank in eiseskaelte geht es problemlos... 00:29 < owl> und ich weiss noch ned sicher ob ich des mitnehm. muss ja mit dem bus fahren usw 00:29 < tsa> huch - noch nen bus auf dem weg zum 19c3? 00:30 < owl> tsa: jep. hackbus halt... 00:30 < owl> (siehe ccc-website irgendwo) 00:30 < tsa> achso.. 00:33 < owl> *yawn* i'm off now. gn8. cu 00:36 < huebi> cu owl 00:37 < huebi> cu all 00:37 < huebi> wech...... 00:37 < fake> ciao huebi ! 00:38 < tsa> cu huebi 01:02 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-2.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 01:16 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriZzZ 01:17 < LoriZzZ> night night 01:25 * SMP testet immernoch 1.5.20 01:25 < SMP> eh 01:25 * SMP still testing 1.5.20 01:25 < tsa> und, wie schlimm ist es? 01:26 < SMP> Muell 01:26 < SMP> kann man niemandem geben 01:26 < tsa> hm...ziemlich vernichtendes Urteil 01:27 < SMP> das ist super toll 01:27 < tsa> ich hab lange nicht wirklich was an 1.5.x gemacht, aber der fehlende scsi-support im announcement hat mich doch ein wenig geaergert.. 01:27 < SMP> der whois client funktioniert z.B. nicht 01:27 < SMP> weil die port nummer in /etc/services fehtl 01:27 < SMP> wie zum Teufel kann sowas passieren 01:28 < tsa> ganz einfach - viele leute maintainen einzelne packages, wenige die skripte, aber offenbar wird das "fertige produkt" zu wenig getestet... 01:29 < tsa> wir braeuchten eine Q&A-Abteilung... 01:29 < tsa> ..wobei das mit dem whois-client wohl eher darauf zurueckzufuehren ist, dass der maintainer gepennt hat.. 01:30 * SMP ist so > < kurz davor sich schlicht aus der rockcvsu Gruppe und hackers@ auszutragen 01:31 < tsa> hm..und dann? 01:31 < LocalHero> Im still looking for ppc isos. Does anybody have any= 01:31 < SMP> 1.5-stefanp weiter maintainen und sonst 1.7 tracken 01:32 * SMP gibt sich erstmal noch bis zum 19C3 Zeit 01:32 < tsa> LocalHero: ask ripclaw about that, afaik he wanted to take a look at ppc .. 01:33 < SMP> "wanted" ... 01:33 < tsa> SMP: naja, 1.7 hat etliche vorteile, auch wenn die derzeit noch nicht wirklich ausgenutzt werden... 01:33 < tsa> zumindest scheint mir 1.7 fuer ports auf andere architekturen um einiges besser geeignet zu sein als 1.5.x 01:34 < SMP> deutlich 01:34 < SMP> aber bei 1.7 habe ich vor allem den Eindruck, dass es sich a) bewegt und b) in die richtige Richtung 01:34 < tsa> jupp 01:35 < tsa> siehe auch menge an patches fuer 1.5 und 1.7 auf der mailing-liste... 01:35 < SMP> naja, das hat andere Ursachen 01:36 < SMP> an 1.5 _soll_ ueberhaupt niemand rumpatchen 01:36 < tsa> ack - ein stable tree, ein devel tree 01:36 < SMP> und diejenigen die daran arbeiten haben eh nen CVS Account -> keine patches 01:37 < SMP> leider verhindert dies eine gegenseitige Kontrolle 01:37 < SMP> mein Reden seit ... 01:37 < tsa> tjo.. 01:37 < tsa> hehe 01:38 < LocalHero> tsa. oki, i will do that the next time i see him 01:41 < tsa> arghs 01:41 < tsa> scheisse. 01:41 < tsa> nu hab ich schon den kompletten tree weggeworfen und neu angefangen, und es meckert immer noch 01:41 < SMP> was ist eigentlich mit Oli? 01:42 < tsa> spontan wuerd ich mal behaupten, dass der ziemlich raus ist 01:42 < SMP> Grund? 01:42 < tsa> hat sein studium geschmissen, arbeit ebenfalls, macht jetzt pilotenausbildung in bremen 01:43 < SMP> uh. uhuhu 01:43 < SMP> okay - guter Grund ;) 01:44 < tsa> naja, und da hat er jetzt wohl nur noch ziemlich wenig zeit.. 01:49 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-2.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit () 02:13 < tsa> so..erstma mail an die liste 02:13 < tsa> irgendwas scheint mir da kaputt zu sein bei 1.7 02:13 < tsa> (oder ich bin zu doof und ein system is kaputt) 02:14 < tsa> s,ein,mein, 02:19 < tsa> *gaehn* 02:19 < tsa> ich hasse glibc 02:19 < SMP> wer nicht .. 02:19 < tsa> hehe.. 02:19 < tsa> naja, was soll's 02:20 < tsa> mal abwarten, ob sich morgen irgendwer dazu meldet 02:20 < tsa> ich werd denn mal pennen gehen 02:20 < tsa> n8 02:20 < SMP> cu 02:20 < tsa> cu SMP 02:20 < tsa> ..und wech 02:20 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082B481.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:52 -!- lkthomas [lkthomas@nat20-88.mpoweredpc.net] has quit ("goto sleep, man") 02:55 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD950E138.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 03:06 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:07 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 04:33 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 04:57 -!- owl_ [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 04:57 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:01 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:01 -!- owl_ [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:13 -!- owl_ [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 05:13 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:24 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p5090B5ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:30 -!- kasc [~shaman@p5090B4FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:08 -!- LoriZzZ is now known as Lorini 07:08 < blindcoder> moin 07:10 < Lorini> moin 07:10 < Lorini> wow du bist ja schon wach.. und in der arbeit? 07:12 < blindcoder> jap 07:12 < blindcoder> bin ab heute mit Auto unterwegs 07:12 < blindcoder> weil neuer Bahnpreis + MVV-Preis > Spritkosten 07:12 < Lorini> wieso "erst" ab heute? 07:13 < Lorini> aah :) 07:13 < Lorini> verstehe 07:13 < Lorini> geschickt 07:13 < blindcoder> eine Woche noch, dann endlich URLAUB! 07:13 < Lorini> blindy: dito :) 07:13 < Lorini> aber nur 2 wochen 07:13 < Lorini> und dann auch noch mit zettel bearbeiten 07:13 < Lorini> :/ 07:14 < blindcoder> Zettel??? 07:17 < Lorini> zettel mit matheaufgaben drauf 07:18 < Lorini> die müssen wir wöchentlich bearbeiten um in LA zur klausur zugelassen und in analysis nen bonus auf die klausur zu kriegen 07:18 < Lorini> und an diesem kack zettel scheterts dass ich nach bayern komm 07:19 < blindcoder> :( 07:19 < Lorini> weil _allein_ krieg ich net die 50% der punkte und wenn ich nach bayern fahr hab ich keine zeit für gruppenarbeit 07:20 < blindcoder> is ja bloed >_< 07:21 < Lorini> ja.. meine leute werden mich lynchen 07:22 < blindcoder> mhm 07:31 < Lorini> hm 07:31 < Lorini> in ner stunde muss ich anner uni sein 07:31 < Lorini> ich brauche _normalerweise_ 10 minuten 07:32 < Lorini> hm.. ob ich schonmal losfahren sollte? 07:33 < blindcoder> wie isses bei euch mit wetter? 07:33 < blindcoder> ich hatte glatteis vor der Haustuer und an den Scheiben 07:34 < Lorini> also als ich gestern noch paar leute nach hause gefahren hab (so mittenacht rum) war es _arsch_glatt 07:35 < blindcoder> genau das mein ich 07:36 < blindcoder> aber heute morgen IN --> Mch hab ich wie immer 75 Minuten gebraucht 07:36 < Lorini> hmmm 07:36 < Lorini> mhmhmhm 07:36 < Lorini> naja.. wird schon passen. ich hoffe mal die sind so schlau dass sie streuen 07:37 < blindcoder> da wuerde ich nicht drauf wetten 07:37 < blindcoder> bei mir daheim hat zumindest noch nie einer gestreut 07:37 < Lorini> naja 07:37 < Lorini> die wissen ja dass montag morgen anner uni die hölle los is 07:37 < Lorini> da werden sie ja wohl streuen 07:38 < blindcoder> hoffentlich 08:00 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriAW 09:32 < owl_> moin 09:32 -!- owl_ is now known as owl 09:36 < owl> ...und wech 10:23 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 10:49 -!- owl_ [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 10:58 < fake> morgen 10:59 < fake> esden: ping 11:02 -!- bishopmobile [~bishop@193.170.41.114] has joined #rocklinux 11:36 < esden> morning 11:39 < aszlig> 'lo esden 11:39 < aszlig> rehi 11:45 -!- LoriAW is now known as Lorini 11:46 < esden> re Lorini 11:47 < Lorini> re 11:47 < Lorini> hi esden 11:47 -!- bishopmobile [~bishop@193.170.41.114] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:53 < esden> wuahhh ... : https://umeet.uninet.edu/umeet2002/english/prog.eng.html 11:56 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:56 < tsa> moin 11:58 < esden> moin tsa 11:59 < esden> tsa: wie ich gelesen habe bist du immer noch am kaempfen ... 11:59 * -> esden brb 12:15 < blindcoder> boy, I'm hungry... 12:24 < tsa> esden: jo, irgendwas ist das kaputt, scheint mir... 12:25 < tsa> jegliche ideen sind natuerlich willkommen.. 12:28 < tsa> ..ich bin naemlich inzwischen ziemlich ratlos.. 12:29 < aszlig> tsa: um was gehts denn? 12:29 < tsa> aszlig: 1.7-build 12:29 < tsa> siehe meine mail von gestern auf der liste 12:29 < tsa> chroot offenbar kaputt. 12:30 < aszlig> hrm? 12:30 < aszlig> mom.. 12:30 < aszlig> *archivedurchsuch* 12:33 < aszlig> erm.. 12:33 < aszlig> tsa: welches topic? 12:33 < esden> tsa: ich werde heute weiter mit dem alpha build rumbasteln ... vielleicht werde ich dann was sehen was nuetzlich sein koennte ... 12:34 < aszlig> tsa: already found... 12:34 < tsa> ah, ok 12:34 < tsa> esden: ich bin mir nicht sicher, aber ich hab das gefuehl, dass es an der glibc 2.3.1 liegt.. 12:34 < aszlig> tsa: kann dir glaubich helfen :) 12:35 < aszlig> tsa: wennde naemlich anstatt chroot uml hernimmst... 12:36 < tsa> hehe 12:36 < tsa> hm.../me hat noch nie was mit uml zu tun gehabt.. 12:36 < owl_> re 12:37 -!- owl_ is now known as owl 12:37 < blindcoder> re owl 12:37 < owl> *grrrrrr* 12:37 < owl> hi blindcoder 12:37 < blindcoder> owl: ??? 12:37 * owl kicks owl to moon 12:37 < blindcoder> what did the doc say? 12:37 < esden> tsa: wie gesagt ich muss es mir noch anschauen ... 12:37 < esden> hmm ... 12:37 < blindcoder> hi esden 12:37 * -> esden updating the 1.7 tree on his intel box ... for testing 12:37 < esden> hi blindcoder 12:38 < owl> blindcoder: have to go to he stupid HNO. might i have /will have chronische headache und mittelohrentzuendung 12:38 < owl> hi esden 12:38 < blindcoder> owl: urks.... 12:38 < owl> blindcoder: full ack 12:40 * blindcoder off to lunch 12:40 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co -P rock-1.5 && cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7 12:40 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Thu Nov 21 19:29:37 2002] 12:43 < tsa> !> The package build aborted with the following config error: 12:43 < tsa> !> glibc22: Syntax error in glibc22.desc: <<<<<<< glibc22.desc 12:43 < tsa> !> glibc22: Syntax error in glibc22.desc: ======= 12:43 < tsa> !> glibc22: Syntax error in glibc22.desc: >>>>>>> 1.3 12:43 < tsa> !> Disable the 'Paranoia Check' config option to ignore such errors. 12:43 < tsa> hurra! 12:47 < tsa> urghs...wie bringt man nochmal vi dazu, einem die zeile zu sagen? 13:17 < blindcoder> tsa: :set ruler 13:18 < th> tsa: C-g 13:19 < th> tsa: bzw. set ruler 13:22 < tsa> thx., 13:25 * tsa versucht den build jetzt mal mit glibc22 13:37 -!- sjefen [~sjefen@ti122110a080-0313.bb.online.no] has joined #rocklinux 13:39 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D546.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:40 < tsa> == 12/16/02 13:38:32 =[0]=> Finished building package glibc22. 13:40 < tsa> ...lets's see what stage 2 thinks about glibc 2.2.x .. 13:40 * tcr hails all 13:40 < tsa> hi tcr 13:41 < blindcoder> hi tcr 13:41 < blindcoder> hi sjefen 13:41 < owl> tach tcr, sjefen 13:42 < sjefen> hello :) 13:42 < sjefen> netsplit or something today? 14:21 < aszlig> aarrgh! 14:21 * aszlig hates, hates busybox... 14:25 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:32 < rolla> aszlig me too 14:34 < owl> aszlig: i normally won't be at school this year... 14:34 < owl> could you please tell katharina to send me a sms or email which contains her mobile phone number? and christoph please, the same, too 14:38 < owl> ASZLIG, bei fuss! 14:43 < aszlig> re 14:43 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc1-stoc3-4-cust247.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:43 < owl> hi aszlig 14:43 < aszlig> owl: ey, why don't you tell it yourself? 14:43 < owl> aszlig: cuz i'm ill 14:43 < aszlig> k 14:43 < owl> thx 14:44 < aszlig> shit! 14:44 < owl> hm? 14:44 < aszlig> that thingie is not caused by busybox! 14:44 < aszlig> may /me dump it here? 14:44 < sjefen> anyone know what brand makes good stable ram? 14:44 < aszlig> (8 lines) 14:45 < aszlig> dumping :> 14:45 < aszlig> rock-install:/hostfs/rock-src-1.7-200211260018# ./scripts/Build-Target 14:45 < aszlig> ./scripts/Build-Target: tr: command not found 14:45 < aszlig> ./scripts/Build-Target: uname: No such file or directory 14:45 < aszlig> ./scripts/Build-Target: mkdir: No such file or directory 14:45 < aszlig> ./scripts/Build-Target: mkdir: No such file or directory 14:45 < aszlig> ./scripts/Build-Target: date: No such file or directory 14:45 < aszlig> ./scripts/Build-Target: [: : integer expression expected 14:45 < aszlig> ./scripts/Build-Target: grep: No such file or directory 14:45 < aszlig> no change of path, changed binaries.. 14:46 < tcr> ? 14:46 < aszlig> tcr: ? 14:46 < tcr> ???????? 14:46 < blindcoder> sjefen: I have yet to see bad, unstable RAM 14:46 < aszlig> date, grep, and so on exists and are in path 14:47 < blindcoder> aszlig: did you do something aleng Cleanup -full -root / ?? 14:47 < tcr> aszlig: only tr isnt found 14:48 < aszlig> hrm... 14:48 < sjefen> blindcoder : hmm, I've heard of people having trouble compiling and stuff nowadays because of bad RAM. 14:48 < tcr> i dunno 1.7 and build-target, does it try to execute tr in the chroot? 14:48 < tcr> because i doubt that tr is missing on your system 14:49 < aszlig> tcr: nope, has nothing to do with chroot 14:49 < blindcoder> sjefen: hmm.. I have two bars of 256 MB Rambus in my box and no idea which brand they are... if at all 14:49 < sjefen> blindcoder : hehe, ok :) 14:49 < aszlig> because that errors appeared before chroot 14:50 < tcr> hm, but tr isnt missing? 14:50 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-2.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has joined #rocklinux 14:51 < rolla> aszlig: mine dies with the install-disks build :( 14:52 < blindcoder> hi LocalHero 14:52 < tcr> God dag, LocalHero! hur mår du? 14:52 < LocalHero> Hi 14:52 < LocalHero> tcr, tjena, jorå, det är bra 14:52 < aszlig> tcr: nope, tr isn't missing :P 14:52 < LocalHero> tcr, själv då 14:53 < LocalHero> Anybody know who pjotr@pckassa.com <pjotr@pckassa.com> is? 14:53 < owl> hi LocalHero 14:53 < LocalHero> owl, Hi, whazzup? 14:54 < LocalHero> I was asked by pjotr to do an 1.6 pre iso, but i cant get the cvs to work 14:54 < owl> hi LocalHero. nothing :) and at you? 14:55 < owl> LocalHero: if you want i can get the sources by cvs tar.bz2 them and send them to you by mail...? 14:55 < LocalHero> owl,, well, im trying to study som math but it doesnt go well. Exam tomorrow 14:55 < owl> LocalHero: urgs. have fun then and good luck :) 14:55 < aszlig> hrm, somehow i thenk it's the build script(s) 14:55 < tcr> LocalHero: jag är bra också 14:55 < LocalHero> the topic cvs command says "cvs [checkout aborted]: Cannot check out files into the repository itself" 14:56 < LocalHero> owl, ,hehe :-) 14:56 < tcr> LocalHero: Jag förstår inte "tjena" and "jorå" though 14:57 < aszlig> grr... 14:57 < rolla> > #### du -k of the binaries #### 14:57 < rolla> > umount: .: not mounted 14:57 < rolla> > umount: f: not found 14:57 < rolla> > xargs: invalid option -- k 14:57 < rolla> > Usage: umount [-hV] 14:57 < rolla> > umount -a [-f] [-r] [-n] [-v] [-t vfstypes] 14:57 < rolla> > umount [-f] [-r] [-n] [-v] special | node... 14:57 < tcr> aszlig: plz try to track it down 14:57 < rolla> aszlig all my commands linked to busybox think they are umount :( 14:57 < aszlig> rolla: yeah, fixed that problem... 14:58 < aszlig> diff -b umount busybox :P 14:58 < blindcoder> LocalHero: works just fine here. Just type the command before the && 14:58 < LocalHero> tcr, Tjena=hej, "jorå, det är bra"= "Afterall its good" :) 14:58 < tcr> LocalHero: cvs -d user@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/home/rockcvs/cvs co -r release-1_6_0pre1 rock-1.5 14:58 < rolla> ?? 14:58 < LocalHero> tcr, Du är inte från sverige? 14:58 < tcr> should work @ LocalHero 14:58 < rolla> you did? How 14:58 < aszlig> rolla: for that i want to kill huebi! 14:58 < aszlig> rolla: busybox IS umount! 14:59 < rolla> was? 14:59 < rolla> grrrr 14:59 < rolla> I tried to fix that thing and debug it 14:59 < rolla> how did you fix it? 14:59 < sjefen> er det popluært å prate ikke-engelske språk her da? 14:59 < aszlig> rolla: i copied the true busybox binary to the wrong one ;) 14:59 < LocalHero> rocklinux.de: Connection refused 14:59 < rolla> ? 15:00 < rolla> I thought I had tried that 15:00 < blindcoder> LocalHero: did you include CVS_RSH=ssh 15:00 < LocalHero> sjefen, haha, norska :) 15:00 < aszlig> rolla: maybe not.. 15:00 < sjefen> LocalHero : hehe :) 15:00 < tcr> LocalHero: no, not really ;) I just have good connections to all you north folks :) 15:00 < aszlig> rolla: you should look at the sizes... 15:00 < LocalHero> ahh, nope 15:00 < tcr> LocalHero: export CVS_RSH 15:00 < tcr> ah blindcoder said it already 15:01 < rolla> okay 15:01 < LocalHero> tcr well, then you are a fast learner :) 15:01 < LocalHero> hmm, it asks for password :( 15:01 < aszlig> huebi: look, at 19c3 i'll kill you! 15:01 < LocalHero> So the 1.6.0-pre is set. So that i can make some isos of it and include on the iso site? 15:02 < aszlig> rolla: there are some other errors... 15:02 < rolla> like what? 15:02 < LocalHero> Or, does anybody have any isos that are already made? 15:02 < aszlig> rolla: some binaries are linked to busybox, even if they aren't supported by busybox 15:02 < tcr> LocalHero: it asks for a password? 15:02 < rolla> great 15:03 < aszlig> rolla: and those error i dumped before... 15:03 < tcr> ah LocalHero 15:03 < rolla> how did they break this my 1.5.19 all worked 15:03 < LocalHero> tcr, yupp 15:03 < tcr> LocalHero: Ursäkta mig! 15:03 < tcr> cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de: ... 15:03 < aszlig> and... /me is goin' to drive insane! 15:04 * aszlig had to fix almost the half of that rock-install image 15:04 < tcr> rolla: hmm ? are you talking about 1.5? 15:04 < tcr> oh 15:04 < aszlig> but that error still bugs me! 15:05 < rolla> yes 15:05 < tcr> hm. plz bug that on the mailinglist 15:06 < rolla> I have 15:06 < rolla> everyone knows about this bug grrr 15:06 < tcr> ?? 15:06 < aszlig> hehe 15:06 * aszlig fixed that one already... 15:06 < LocalHero> Hmm, dahh, lots of commands, doesnt anybody have a tarbal of it? 15:07 < tcr> LocalHero: cd /building; export CVS_RSH=ssh; cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/home/rockcvs/cvs co -r release-1_6_0pre1 rock-1.5 15:07 < tcr> just copy & paste 15:07 < SMP> no no no 15:07 < SMP> all wrong 15:08 < tcr> oups then 15:08 < LocalHero> hmm XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server "kalle:11.0" 15:08 < LocalHero> after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. 15:08 < LocalHero> :( 15:08 < aszlig> i'll put that fixed image to ftp://ftp.aszlig.net/rocklinux/root_fs 15:08 < SMP> the path on anoncvs.rocklinux.de is just /cvs 15:08 < rolla> aszlig you were right good job :) 15:09 < LocalHero> ?!?! Confused 15:09 < tcr> LocalHero: replace /home/rockcvs/cvs with /cvs 15:10 < LocalHero> tcr ahha :) 15:10 < LocalHero> (/cvs/)-> export CVS_RSH=ssh; cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co -r release-1_6_0pre1 rock-1.5 15:10 < LocalHero> cvs [checkout aborted]: Cannot check out files into the repository itself 15:10 < LocalHero> Jadda jadda. :) 15:11 < SMP> haarrgh 15:11 < LocalHero> I hate cvs servers :) 15:11 < SMP> you already have a checkout of rock-1.5 there, don't you? 15:11 < LocalHero> When i have some more time i will try to learn the thing :) 15:11 < LocalHero> Nope,, nothing 15:11 < SMP> does /cvs/CVS/ exist? 15:12 < rolla> aszlig how do I make it not over write the correct busybox bin ? 15:12 < aszlig> mom... 15:12 < LocalHero> SMP, nope, just /cvs nothing else 15:18 < tcr> hmmm 15:19 < LocalHero> Dahh, doesnt matter :( 15:19 * tcr brb 15:19 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D546.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 15:21 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812CCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:25 < rolla> grrr 15:25 < LocalHero> Cant somebody get the 1.6pre source and send it to me? 15:26 * blindcoder going home 15:26 < blindcoder> bye 15:26 < tcr> LocalHero: hm. well, please wait up .. there are some pkgs that i actually updated but havent got merged so far :-/ still waiting for an answer of pjotr 15:26 < aszlig> ftp://ftp.aszlig.net/rocklinux/uml/ 15:26 < aszlig> there it is :) 15:26 < sjefen> Anyone know about CAS in RAM? 15:26 < owl> bye blindcoder 15:27 < aszlig> brb :Q 15:28 < tcr> aszlig: kann man das nicht iorgendwie diffen ??? 15:31 -!- temr [~pm@pD9E331EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:31 < LocalHero> tcr, oki, so you do know pjotr, well, he was the one asking me to build some isos? 15:31 < aszlig> tcr: diff what? 15:32 < temr> hello 15:32 < LocalHero> tcr, oki well, send me an mail when you are done :). 15:32 < aszlig> tcr: busybox? 15:32 < tcr> aszlig: of the uploaded stuff 15:47 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriAW 15:57 < tcr> SMP: still here? 15:58 < aszlig> (in srm) > halt 15:58 < aszlig> hehe 15:58 < aszlig> :> 15:58 < aszlig> cpu 0 halted 15:58 < rolla> aszlig any head way on that fix ? 15:58 < aszlig> rolla: hrm? 15:58 < aszlig> rolla: fixed that already... 15:58 < rolla> aszlig: in cvs ? 15:58 < aszlig> rolla: nope.. 15:59 < rolla> hmm 15:59 * aszlig doesn't have cvs-access 15:59 < rolla> aszlig: can you show me the patch ? 15:59 < aszlig> grml 15:59 < aszlig> don't request patches anymore, plz ;) 15:59 < aszlig> because patches on binary data are really crap! 16:00 < SMP> tcr: yup 16:01 < tcr> SMP: hm. could say the me date+time of the last entry of the `changelog' file in release-1_6_0pre1-patches? I doubt the last change was on 12-12 >_< 16:01 < sjefen> what's the diffrence between boot, desktop and generic ROCK? 16:01 < tsa> asklasklasklasklaskalsklasklakslaksalksalsalsklakslasslakslas!!!!! 16:01 < tsa> Fscking glibc! 16:01 < owl> which optimization is used to build rock for pentium-s (133 mhz)? 16:02 < rolla> aszlig: I was really just wanting to know how you made the scripts not recopy the bad busybox 16:02 < tsa> owl: "read the source, luke" ;) 16:02 < owl> where?? 16:02 < aszlig> rolla: /me doesn't have the sources... 16:03 < sjefen> owl does it have MMX? 16:03 < aszlig> rolla: because /me doesn't need them.. 16:03 < rolla> ? 16:03 < aszlig> rolla: yup, thet install-image is just for uml 16:03 < owl> nope. it hasn't 16:03 < tsa> owl: arch-conf/intel/* 16:03 < sjefen> owl: optimise for pentium then? 16:03 < rolla> okay I am confused now for sure 16:04 < owl> tsa: in 1.5? 16:04 < tsa> owl: nope, 1.7 16:04 < owl> sjefen: ok. thx. i thought so, too 16:04 < tsa> don't know abput 1.5 16:04 < SMP> tcr: no idea 16:04 < tsa> s,p,o, 16:04 < owl> tsa: k. thx. i'm building 1.5 right now 16:06 < aszlig> rolla: np :) 16:06 < aszlig> rolla: do you know user mode linux? 16:09 < rolla> I have heard of it yes 16:09 < rolla> but right now i am fighting with the build install-disks for 1.5.20 where busybox is umount :( 16:09 < rolla> I thought we where talking about the same thing but now I am not sure 16:10 < aszlig> rolla: we _are_ talking about the same thing :) 16:11 < rolla> okay 16:11 -!- pjotrp [~wrk@gate.causeway-tech.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:11 < aszlig> rolla: but i didn't fix the sources 16:12 < aszlig> rolla: because i don't needed them (and could not build them, cause of devfs) 16:12 < LocalHero> Hi pjotrp 16:13 < aszlig> rolla: with a bit hacking maybe, i'll be able to bidld them, but as i said before: don't need the sources... 16:13 < aszlig> rolla: sorry 16:13 < rolla> np 16:13 < LocalHero> pjotrp, tsa says that you have some patches before 1.6.0pre 16:13 < tsa> huh? 16:13 < tcr> he means me .. 16:14 < tcr> and i'm merging them currently .. but encounter some problems >_< 16:14 < tcr> encountered 16:14 -!- mchobbel [~michiel@217.166.232.7] has joined #rocklinux 16:15 < tcr> hi mchobbel 16:15 < mchobbel> hi 16:15 < mchobbel> i'm trying out gaim for irc.. but it seems a bit .. 16:16 < pjotrp> not many features 16:16 < mchobbel> yeah 16:16 < mchobbel> toy-toy 16:16 < tcr> pjotrp: oh, so you cant even see a query? 16:16 < pjotrp> I see queries, but no private messages 16:16 < mchobbel> i don't see a button for it 16:17 < pjotrp> You could be a Windows user :-) 16:17 < aszlig> pjotrp: erm, whats the diff!? 16:17 < tcr> pjotrp: nevermind. well plz check your mailbox 16:18 < aszlig> pjotrp: in irc there are only PRIVMSG and NOTICE to talk for a non-ircop 16:19 -!- mchobbel [~michiel@217.166.232.7] has left #rocklinux () 16:20 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 16:21 < Mike1> moin all 16:21 < LocalHero> Mike1, hi mike 16:21 < rolla> re mike 16:21 < Mike1> ping pjotrp 16:21 < owl> hi Mike1 16:21 < LocalHero> pjotrp, well, if you get the final source over to me i could do some iso builds 16:21 < pjotrp> will do 16:21 < LocalHero> now i need to studdy a bit :) 16:21 < LocalHero> cya all 16:21 < Mike1> cu LocalHero 16:22 < Ge0rG> studying a single bit shouldn't take long ;) 16:22 < sjefen> is the rock guide availble in html or plain text or something? 16:22 < Mike1> Hi Pj 16:22 < tcr> pjotrp: let me do it, or at least wait till i give you a sign. thank you 16:22 < LocalHero> lol := 16:22 < LocalHero> lol :) 16:22 -!- LocalHero [LocalHero@i301-2.vildanden.afb.lu.se] has quit () 16:22 < SMP> aha 16:22 < Mike1> sjefen: yes there is both formats and english and spanish 16:23 < aszlig> hi mike1 16:23 < tcr> Mike1: to your question who built rock 1.5 recently: both aszlig and rolla built 1.5.20 AFAIK 16:24 < sjefen> Mike1 : where? I can only find latex, dvi, postscript and pdf versions... 16:24 < Mike1> sjefen: https://www.rocklinux.org/guide.html 16:24 < sjefen> I'm there... 16:25 < sjefen> hmm... 16:26 < sjefen> i can only find spanish versions with plaintext. 16:26 < tcr> hm sjefen is right, there is neither a html nor a ascii file for the english one 16:26 < Mike1> pjotrp: Do you have any plain text ot html version of the ROCK Guide? 16:27 < pjotrp> just the LaTeX 16:28 < pjotrp> It should be easy to convert with Latex2html - no tricks in there 16:28 < Mike1> pjotrp: i think we should have some plain text versions 16:28 < sjefen> me too :) 16:28 < Mike1> sjefen: do you know how to use latex2html? 16:28 < Mike1> pjotrp: true 16:30 < sjefen> if you fellas don't have a plaintext version I'll download the latex2html thingie :) 16:30 < Mike1> sjefen: yeah do that :) 16:31 < tcr> pjotrp: hmm. thanks for the link. One more question: in release-1_6_0pre1 my recent changes are _not_ contained, but in the main 1.5 tree they are -- what will happen when merging? 16:31 < sjefen> Mike1 : but it wouldn't hurt to put up some plain text guide in english some day, eh? :) 16:32 < Mike1> sjefen: yeah i will add it to my TODO list 16:32 < sjefen> hehe 16:34 < blindcoder> rehi 16:35 -!- pjotrp [~wrk@gate.causeway-tech.com] has quit ("Download Gaim [https://gaim.sourceforge.net/]") 16:35 < tcr> ARGH 16:35 < sjefen> hello :) 16:36 < tcr> Mike1: hm. May i bother you? 16:36 * Mike1 realizes that rock has been gaining some place in the nordish lands 16:36 < Mike1> tcr: whats up? 16:36 < sjefen> hehe, nordish people are hardcore :) 16:37 -!- pjotrp [~wrk@gate.causeway-tech.com] has joined #rocklinux 16:37 < Mike1> welcome back pjotrp 16:37 < pjotrp> testing ;-) 16:37 < Mike1> lol 16:38 < tcr> Mike1: aszlig and rolla complain about the fucked up install disks in 1.5.20 .. i think you should give them one or better two ears 16:38 < pjotrp> boot works - root is dead 16:39 < Mike1> tcr: yes we are aware of the busybox problem 16:40 < aszlig> Mike1: there are much more probs... 16:40 < aszlig> Mike1: like i already explained 16:40 < tcr> fine. after merging my recent changes i will take care about the sed 4.0.4 bug and the new gcc protector 16:41 < Mike1> yes i know there are some problems we are working on this already, thought all help and bug reports are very welcome 16:48 < sjefen> do I want perl as suid binaries? 16:50 < pjotrp> I switch suid off with CFengine 16:51 < tcr> i haven't perl installed at all 16:52 < sjefen> and what does the word abbreviate mean? 16:58 < tcr> pjotrp: could you checkout 1_6_0 please? 17:00 < owl> re 17:09 < tcr> hmmm ... 17:34 -!- Netsplit anthony.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: huebi, fake, rolla_, qubit_, kasc_, LoriAW, tcr, snyke, aszlig 17:35 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig, tcr, kasc_, LoriAW, rolla_, fake, huebi, qubit_, snyke 17:35 < rolla> ah I lost my other self 17:35 < rolla> oh good he is back :) 17:35 < tcr> sjefen: there is your daily netsplit ;))) 17:36 < sjefen> heh :) 17:36 < sjefen> oo, fun. I have to update my gcc. 17:41 < rolla> hack hack :) 17:41 < th> re 17:41 < th> hi pjotrp 17:42 < th> hi Mike1 17:42 * aszlig kicks esden and fake! 17:43 < Mike1> hi th 17:43 < aszlig> if(awake(esden)||awake(fake)) 17:43 < aszlig> { 17:43 < aszlig> query(); 17:43 < aszlig> } else { 17:43 < aszlig> exit(); 17:43 < aszlig> { 17:43 < aszlig> argh.. 17:43 < aszlig> s/{$// 17:44 < th> Mike1: why the hell do you use a binary-package for mysql? 17:44 < Mike1> 0_o 17:44 < Mike1> ? 17:45 < th> Mike1: check you email... 17:45 < Mike1> mom 17:47 < Mike1> th: ok 17:48 < Mike1> th: i am too busy for working on this matters, would you like to take maintainence on this? 17:48 < th> Mike1: ok. i do. 17:48 < Mike1> thanks 17:48 -!- LoriAW [~Lorini@pD9506DA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:50 < Mike1> Also all ROCK-STABLE team, i wanted to thank you all guys for you help and support, its been nice developing with you, though its time for me to move 17:51 < sjefen> to move? 17:51 < th> Mike1: clarify 17:51 < th> pjotrp: are you planning to merge the cvs branches later? 17:52 < Mike1> What i am saying is that i think my work for rocklinux is finished 17:54 < th> Mike1: so what are you going to do? 17:54 < Mike1> mom /me on the phone 17:55 -!- dennis [~lug00-in@pima.hostsharing.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:55 < dennis> hi 17:55 < aszlig> hi dennis 17:56 < owl> hi dennis 17:56 -!- dennis [~lug00-in@pima.hostsharing.net] has quit (Client Quit) 17:56 < esden> ro hi all 17:56 < owl> hi esden 17:56 < aszlig> 'lo esden 17:57 < tsa> hi esden 17:57 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9EB6C81.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:57 < dennis> re 17:58 -!- LoriAW [~Lorini@p3EE219FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:58 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4600.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:00 -!- chrisime [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4600.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ("brb (booting new kernel)") 18:01 < blindcoder> El Hazard is strange 18:02 < rolla> :) 18:03 < blindcoder> owl: ping 18:03 < owl> blindcoder: pong 18:06 < rolla> gnip 18:10 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F837.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD9E4FC3E.dip.t-dialin.net))) 18:10 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4FC3E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:10 < blindcoder> WTF was THAT? 18:11 < tcr> blindcoder has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: blindcod1r!blindcoder@pD9E4FC3E.dip.t-dialin.net))) 18:11 < owl> suicide? 18:11 < blindcoder> I copied two eps of X via NFS and the load went through the roof?! 18:12 < blindcoder> owl: what I wanted to say: the firs two eps of X are on teh server (the OVA being episode 00) 18:13 < owl> oki. cool. thx 18:14 < owl> blindcoder: your server means that i'm logged in twice... but i'm not logged in, at all :-/ *crying* 18:14 < blindcoder> owl: just wait a few minutes 18:14 < blindcoder> what client are you using? 18:15 < blindcoder> hmm I have a stale connection... I'll just kill it 18:15 < blindcoder> owl: done 18:15 < owl> thx 18:16 < blindcoder> okay, I continue watching El Hazard :) 18:17 < owl> blindcoder: have fun 18:20 * rolla is sore :( 18:20 < rolla> dang mirror not being up todate 18:21 -!- LoriAW is now known as Lorini 18:24 -!- Netsplit anthony.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: huebi, blindcoder, fake, qubit_, rolla_, kasc_, tcr, snyke, aszlig 18:24 -!- Netsplit over, joins: aszlig, blindcoder, tcr, kasc_, rolla_, fake, huebi, qubit_, snyke 18:27 < tsa> so...und wech 18:27 < tsa> cya later 18:27 -!- tsa [~tsa@rossini.marcant.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:31 * aszlig drivin' home :/ 18:33 < aszlig> bbl 18:46 -!- armijn [~armijn@131.211.84.77] has joined #rocklinux 18:46 < armijn> re 18:46 < Mike1> hi armijn 18:46 < Mike1> und re all :) 18:47 < esden> hi armijn 18:47 < esden> hi Mike1 18:48 < armijn> hi all... 18:49 < Mike1> ... 18:49 < owl> hi armijn 18:50 < Mike1> :) 18:50 < esden> Mike1: dot dot dot 18:50 < armijn> hi owl 18:51 < pjotrp> Armijn leaves but always comes back ;-) 18:51 < esden> pjotrp: is he not allowed to ? 18:52 < armijn> pjotrp: oh, this is just for socializing 18:52 < pjotrp> heh 18:52 < armijn> pjotrp: was the Guide 2.0 released already? 18:52 < pjotrp> Armijn is my friend (sometimes) 18:52 < Mike1> esden: armijn is always welcome to come back 18:52 < pjotrp> It is in pre-release until kingdom come 18:53 < esden> Mike1: !!! my words !!! 18:53 < Mike1> pjotrp: armijn? friend? do this words really fit together? 18:53 < Mike1> *gg* jk 18:53 < pjotrp> I need to describe the 1.7 build hacking before I get past pre series 18:53 < pjotrp> That will take me another summer 18:53 < armijn> heheh 18:54 < Mike1> funny thing, people usually take summer for vacations, but pjotrp uses it for typing work 18:54 < armijn> Xmas vacation soon, hope to get some work done 18:54 < pjotrp> Sigh 18:55 < armijn> pjotrp is a busy dude 18:55 < esden> armijn: who is not ? 18:55 < pjotrp> Zzzzzz Zzzzz 18:55 < armijn> esden: you gonna make it to FOSDEM? 18:56 < esden> armijn: I am not sure ... it depends from the time I have to write exams 18:56 < armijn> who cares about exams? 18:57 < Mike1> armijn: FOSDEM = Free Beer? 18:57 < armijn> mike1: it's free as in beer 18:57 < esden> armijn: my future jobgivers ... and people that are deciding about the money I will earn in my future 18:57 < armijn> esden: nah. 18:58 -!- Lorini [~Lorini@p3EE219FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.") 18:58 < esden> armijn: sorry ... but that is the truth ... :-( 18:58 < pjotrp> ROCK, where angels fear to tread 19:00 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812CCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:00 -!- bishophome [bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #rocklinux 19:02 < armijn> got a few thousand CDs here that need to be chucked out 19:09 < armijn> blah 19:09 < Mike1> bleh 19:10 < bishophome> lol 19:11 * Mike1 realizes armijn has not hugged owl today and wonders if everything is ok 19:11 < esden> armijn: be ashamed ! 19:12 < Mike1> :) 19:12 < Mike1> ok time for me to eat 19:12 < Mike1> see you in a bit 19:13 < armijn> ok, ok, I'm sorry! 19:13 * armijn hugs owl 19:14 < Mike1> armijn: much beytter 19:14 < esden> armijn: good ... nice boy ;-) 19:14 * Mike1 drops a bone to armijn, yeah good boy ... 19:15 < armijn> a boner? excuse me? 19:15 < Mike1> armijn: ok sorry ... 19:15 * Mike1 drops a beer to armijn 19:16 * armijn guesses mike1 missed the joke 19:16 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812CCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:16 < esden> ... uhhmm ... yes 19:17 * Mike1 is to hungry for jokes 19:17 < Mike1> be back in a while 19:17 < Mike1> :) 19:20 < esden> ahh .. good coke 19:21 * -> esden needs a beer 19:23 < tcr> pjotrp: still there? 19:31 -!- dennis [~dennis@pD9EB6C81.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:34 -!- pjotrp [~wrk@gate.causeway-tech.com] has quit ("Download Gaim [https://gaim.sourceforge.net/]") 19:37 < armijn> well, so much for pjotrp 19:39 < tcr> weve talked in a query :P 19:43 < esden> tcr: humm ... 19:47 < armijn> heh 19:47 < tcr> what's left to allow humming? 19:48 < armijn> yeh 19:50 < armijn> humming is fun 19:52 < tcr> but not someone is summing in your ear while youre trying to concentrate.. 19:53 < tcr> +when 19:55 < armijn> hummmmmm 19:55 * tcr is listening to Rage - Dies Irae 19:56 < armijn> oh that reminds me, gotta buy concert tickets... 19:56 < tcr> for? 19:57 < armijn> saxon and children of bodom 19:57 < tcr> rage will play in wacken afaik 19:57 < armijn> like every year? 19:58 < tcr> yeah XD 19:58 < armijn> never went to wacken, probably will never go 19:59 < tcr> but they got die apokalyptischen reiter this year 19:59 * tcr is listening to Die Apokalyptischen Reiter - Gone 19:59 < tcr> godlike song 19:59 < armijn> hmm, ah well 20:02 < tcr> hm, wont go to wacken either ;) 20:02 < armijn> too far away 20:02 < armijn> and 4 days of drunken germans, no thanks. 20:06 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50816DC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:10 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc1-stoc3-4-cust247.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 20:14 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9525F4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:15 < tsa> re 20:16 < blindcoder> anime is evil... 20:16 < armijn> time to hit the road 20:16 < armijn> l8r 20:16 -!- armijn [~armijn@131.211.84.77] has left #rocklinux () 20:22 < [anders]> lo 20:23 * [anders] is feeling sorry for himself... Got a crick in the neck and had to stay at home today.. 20:23 < esden> hi [anders] 20:23 < owl> moin [anders] 20:24 < blindcoder> hi [anders] 20:24 < esden> re blindcoder 20:24 < esden> *hug* 20:24 < blindcoder> re esden *rehug* 20:24 < [anders]> lo esden 20:24 < [anders]> lo blindcoder 20:24 < [anders]> lo owl 20:25 < owl> [anders]: how r u? 20:25 < blindcoder> owl: what did you do? already 11% :) 20:25 < owl> blindcoder: *hr* downloading the whole evening? 20:25 < owl> still over 1000 minutes to download *crying* 20:25 < [anders]> owl: sore neck, living on pain killers.. Other than that I feel alright.. 20:25 < blindcoder> owl: my connection is open during the night :) 20:26 < tcr> god kvätt [anders] 20:27 < owl> [anders]: *ouch* get well soon 20:27 < owl> blindcoder: thx a lot :) 20:27 < [anders]> god kväll tcr, hur mår du? 20:27 < owl> hopefully my stupid proxy will not disconnect... 20:27 < blindcoder> owl: but don't be disapointed... the first few (3 or 4) Eps of X are... a little boring IMHO 20:27 < owl> k. what r they about? 20:27 < [anders]> owl: ta, trying to... might be home from work tomorrow as well if this doesn't get better tonight.. 20:28 < owl> i c. 20:28 < blindcoder> [anders]: stay home the whole week --> more holiday :) 20:28 < owl> blindcoder: that's not a good idea 20:29 < blindcoder> owl: gnagnagna 20:29 < [anders]> blindcoder: uhm.. perhaps not such a good idea. I'd need to get back in a.s.a.p. so I can get the contract negotiations over and done with. 20:29 < owl> blindcoder: i 've a better solution... staying at home for about 3 weeks before holiday... + 2 weeks of holiday... ;) 20:30 < blindcoder> [anders]: oh, I see... yeah, that would be better for sure... 20:30 < blindcoder> owl: :P 20:30 < [anders]> I'll have to call Procurement tomorrow and hassle them into telling me what the hell is going on.. 20:30 < [anders]> blindcoder: :) I knew you would see my point of view.. 20:31 < blindcoder> [anders]: just a good mood :) I can be as stubborn as owl is :P 20:31 < blindcoder> (hope she didn't read this) 20:33 < tsa> hehe..she wouldn't understand it, anyway ;) 20:34 < owl> blindcoder: :P 20:34 < owl> tsa: shut up 20:34 < [anders]> blindcoder: seems stuborness is a hacker trait.. I can be pretty damned stubborn when I set that side to... 20:34 < blindcoder> shimata... she did... 20:34 < [anders]> owl: *tease* 20:34 * owl ignores everybody 20:35 < blindcoder> tsa: I hape so, or she'll kill me the next time I meet her :) 20:35 * blindcoder hugs owl 20:35 < tsa> blindcoder: who cares... 20:35 < owl> *grrrrrrrrrr* 20:35 < blindcoder> tsa: right... 20:35 < tsa> just tell her to go and make coffee for you.. 20:35 * owl takes all windows-cds from work and all msdn-cds and hits blindcoder with them 20:36 < owl> die, blindcoder, die! 20:36 * blindcoder dead %-6 20:36 < owl> hr 20:37 < tcr> [anders]: ah, jag är mycket brä! 20:37 < tcr> ..idag 20:38 < [anders]> tcr: :-) 20:39 < tcr> hur mår ni <- that's formal, isnt it`? 20:39 < [anders]> tcr: Ni is formal, like Sie.. 20:40 < [anders]> tcr: du is more informal, like sie I think.. 20:41 < [anders]> tcr: am I making sense? :) 20:41 < tcr> lol [anders]! it's du in german as well ;) but 'du' must be declined, so it has to be "Wie geht es dir?" 20:41 < tsa> hm.. 20:41 < tsa> could anyone please fix 1.7? 20:41 < tcr> [anders]: Tack så mycket. <- is that formal too? 20:41 < tcr> i think so 20:42 < [anders]> tcr: no, that is just polite.. :) 20:42 < tcr> hm 20:42 < tcr> well, is there a big difference anyway? :D 20:42 < [anders]> Like 'Danke Schön' 20:42 < blindcoder> tsa: what exactly? 20:42 < tsa> blindcoder: just see my mails to the list. 20:42 < blindcoder> glibc IIRC? 20:42 < tsa> glibc asm stuff 20:42 < tsa> ack 20:43 < blindcoder> hmm... what architecture? 20:43 < tsa> x86 20:43 < tsa> pentium3 optimisation seems to cause the problem 20:44 < tsa> (yes, i want it p3-optimized..) 20:44 < blindcoder> I give it a try on my machine. on what host-system did you try to build it? 20:45 < tsa> uhm..this is something between rock 1.4.0 and 1.7-dev .. 20:45 < tsa> glibc 2.2.5 20:45 < [anders]> tsa: what gain would you get from P-III optimisation compared to plain i686 optimisation? 20:45 < tsa> gcc 3.2.1 20:45 < blindcoder> oh... THAT one :) 20:45 < tsa> no gcc 2 installed at all 20:45 < blindcoder> tsa: what libc on host? 20:46 < tsa> blindcoder: see above - 2.2.5 20:46 < tsa> i've tried both glibc's, cross, non-cross, pseudo-cross, whatever 20:46 < blindcoder> oh... hmm... had problems with that, too... fixed it by instaling 2.3.1 on host... crashed almost anything else in the process 20:47 < tsa> pseudo-cross breaks glibc in stage 0 20:47 < tsa> non-cross i can compile stage 0 and 1, but everything in stage 2 breaks because the chroot is sysfunctional 20:47 < blindcoder> yes. I really needed te intsall 2.3.1 on the host. installing gcc3.2 from 1.5 and then building glibc 2.3.1 with 1.7 20:47 < tsa> [anders]: i have no idea. but i can select pentium3 in the menu, and so i want it to compile. 20:48 < tcr> [anders]: jag tänka, svenska är en konstig språk 20:48 < blindcoder> apache and mysql died in the process, as did anything I tried to compile afterwards... but I could build 1.7 :) 20:49 < tsa> [anders]: i don't know if this would give any speed difference at all, but it's an available option, so we should get it working..somehow.. 20:57 < blindcoder> tsa: I've started a P3 build. I'll tell you about the results tomorrow 20:57 < tsa> ok, thanks 20:57 < tsa> glibc/gcc on host system? 20:58 < blindcoder> glibc 2.3.1 gcc3.2 20:58 < tsa> glibc in rock build? 20:58 < tsa> 2.2.x or 2.3.x? 20:58 < blindcoder> 2.3.1 and gcc 3.2.1 20:58 < tsa> ok 20:58 < tsa> pseudo-cross? 20:58 < blindcoder> yepp 20:59 < tsa> ok. 20:59 < tsa> i guess it'll fail in stage 0, trying to compile glibc 20:59 < tsa> in subdir "signal", trying to create "kill.os" 20:59 < tsa> we'll see.. 21:00 < blindcoder> kill.os? what a good name for a file killing the build :) 21:00 < tsa> ack 21:01 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off to bed now. Well... at least away from the PC for today :) 21:01 < blindcoder> see you! 21:01 < tsa> cu blindcoder 21:01 < owl> bye blindcoder 21:02 < sjefen> I'm building on a P3 now... 21:06 < Mike1> sjefen: have fun 21:06 < sjefen> heh, just heard someone having trouble with it. 21:06 < sjefen> Mike1 : so, you still gonna quit the rocky buissniss? 21:07 < Mike1> sjefen: pjotrp found the words to stick me around for some more 21:07 < sjefen> Mike1 : hehe, good to hear :) 21:08 < sjefen> I'm just about to build and try this stuff, you can't quit then :) 21:11 < sjefen> are the download'able isos bootable? 21:12 < Mike1> sjefen: https://iso.rocklinux.de/ 21:12 < tcr> aaaaaaaaaaah sjefen!!!!!!!!1 21:12 < sjefen> Mike1 : are they bootable? 21:12 < tcr> you rimend me on something 21:12 < Mike1> sjefen: yes 21:12 < tcr> many thanks :) 21:12 < Mike1> tcr: ? 21:12 < sjefen> Mike1 : Think it's easier to download one of them and build rock from within rock then? 21:12 < sjefen> tcr :) 21:13 < tcr> alexanders said i should send him a source tarball to create an iso from it 21:13 < tcr> i would have been forgotten it, but sjefen remindend me indirectly... fortunately 21:13 < sjefen> of cource. 21:14 < sjefen> it's always nice to help. 21:14 < tcr> .. without doing anything ;) 21:15 < sjefen> yup :) 21:15 < Mike1> sjefen: iso are sources already build 21:15 < sjefen> Mike1 : yeah, but I wanna build my own build. 21:15 < Mike1> sjefen: but you could install one of those bootable isos 21:15 < Mike1> and build rock on a running rock system 21:16 < sjefen> Mike1 : I don't want to install it, I just want rock to build rock. 21:17 < sjefen> Mike1 : building rock from another rock is preferable, right? 21:17 < Mike1> sjefen: yes, thats what i told you , install rock from one those isos, then build rock 21:18 < Mike1> == 14:19:26 =[2]=> Building base package egcs64 [_19980921.1.orig 1.5.20]. 21:18 < Mike1> i am building currently 21:19 < sjefen> Mike1 : but do I have to install the rock (iso version) to build rock (src) ? Or can I build rock(src) just from within the installation-program-boot-thingie? If you get me :) 21:20 < tcr> sjefen: hm. yes and no 21:20 < sjefen> hehe :) 21:20 < tcr> sjefen: you can build it under the same kernel, but you'll be forced to install a temporary chroot on your hd, because the cdrom will just have very minimalistic stuff on it 21:21 < sjefen> tcr : right, thanks. Need to find another box here somewhere then :) 21:22 < tcr> sjefen: rock should actually be buildable on every existing linux system -- but they _could_ happen somethings you have to take care about 21:23 < sjefen> tcr : heh, already having some trouble building with my slack (8.1 I think). 21:23 < Mike1> sjefen: if you want to try building on any othe rlinux system you will need devfs support 21:24 < sjefen> devfs, why? 21:24 < Mike1> sjefen: rock uses devfs 21:25 < tcr> rock-linux has been using devfs then a quite long time .. was likely the first distro that makes use of it 21:25 < Mike1> if your system doesnt have devfs support the build will mess up when chrootinh 21:25 < Mike1> chrooting 21:25 < tcr> sjefen: beliebe me, devfs is something you _wanna_ have 21:25 < Mike1> tcr: not likely... it was ! 21:26 < sjefen> heh, you're talking about the devfs auto-daemon thing right? 21:26 < fake> having a device node for devices you don't even WANT to have (joysticks 0 - 99) just sucks. 21:26 < Mike1> sjefen: Device file system daemon yes 21:26 < fake> eek 21:27 < fake> you don't really need the daemon 21:27 < sjefen> never started using that stuff :) 21:27 < SMP> locales are completely broken in 1.5.20 21:27 -!- bishop_ [bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:27 * SMP is getting seriously pissed 21:27 < fake> SMP: chill. here's a blanket. 21:27 < tcr> SMP: ah yeah recognized that in 1.5.19 i think 21:27 < tcr> still there? 21:27 * fake does not use 1.5.x where x > 12 *g* 21:28 < sjefen> *think I'll stop downloading the 1.5.20 iso* :) 21:28 -!- bishop_ [bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has quit (Client Quit) 21:28 -!- bishop_ [bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #rocklinux 21:28 < SMP> we have some crap in /usr/share/locale, but everything uses the stuff under /usr/lib/locale 21:28 < sjefen> are there any 1.7 iso's out there? 21:29 < esden> if not one could change it ... ;-) 21:29 < esden> @ sjefen 21:29 < Mike1> SMP: mmm... this is serious 21:30 < sjefen> what? :) 21:31 < Mike1> esden: do you have apsrc64 rock-1.7 iso for me? 21:32 < Mike1> sparc64* 21:32 < Mike1> damn keyboard 21:32 < esden> Mike1: no ... if you get network cards in a sun fire v100 to work I will have one for you ... 21:32 < esden> Mike1: do you want an account on it ? 21:32 < Mike1> esden: yes 21:33 < esden> you can have it when you get them working ... 21:33 < Mike1> :P 21:33 < Mike1> ssh -l mike sun-fire ... 21:33 < Mike1> ok 21:34 < Mike1> esden: i thought you had solved this after ur mail to sparclinux 21:37 < tcr> hmm 21:37 < Mike1> esden btw what kernel version are you running? 2.4.18? 21:37 < Mike1> 2.4.19? 21:38 < tcr> I suggest to change the INFOPATH="$INFOPATH:$x" line in /etc/profile to INFOPATH="$x:$INFOPATH", because otherwise INFOPATH is just fucked up and `info' doesnt work at all 21:38 < Mike1> i have seen this behaviors on davicom chipset on a system running 2.4.19 with dhcp client 21:40 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812CCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 21:42 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49A8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:42 < esden> Mike1: mom ... I have to check ... but I supose it is 2.4.18 21:43 < Mike1> do you have such problems with static ip net as well? 21:43 < esden> yes 21:45 < Mike1> mm... and the devices are on board right? 21:45 < esden> when I make eth0 or eth1 up it prints "eth0: Tx timeout - resetting" all the time in 10 seconds interval 21:45 < esden> Mike1: yes the interfaces are on board 21:45 < esden> and there is no pci slot or so 21:46 < Mike1> m... this really sucks 21:46 < esden> yes ... it sucks 21:46 < Mike1> the onboard ship demaged could be an option but i doub 21:47 < Mike1> i think its definitly a kernel problem, could you try 2.4.20? 21:47 < Mike1> or .19 at least? 21:54 < fake> could also be a cable problem ;) 21:55 < Mike1> fake: yeah that too 21:55 < Mike1> but i asume esden have already looked for that option 21:55 < Mike1> right esden? 21:57 < esden> I checked the cable 21:57 < esden> both slots 21:58 < Mike1> esden: did you try a new cable on them? 21:59 < esden> and tryed to connect on the uplink port of my hub (could be could be) and different cables ... but nothing helped ... 21:59 < Mike1> changed the hub? 21:59 < Mike1> *g 22:03 * fake eating polish chocolate 22:04 < Mike1> hehe enjoy the polish 22:04 < Mike1> ... chocolate. 22:04 < fake> *g* 22:04 < rolla> grrr 22:06 < owl> hi fake. got the sms? 22:06 < tsa> hi fake 22:06 < Mike1> owly 22:07 < tsa> fake: just tried a pentium2 pseudo-cross 1.7 build - same error with glibc 22:07 < owl> hi Mike1 22:07 < fake> tsa: i did that already 22:07 * -> esden eating polish chocolate too 22:07 < esden> ;-) 22:08 < esden> yummy 22:08 < fake> it works from pentium-mmx downwards 22:08 < tsa> fake: currently building pseudo-cross ppro 22:08 < tsa> fake: tried ppro? 22:08 < fake> didn't try that ;) 22:08 < tsa> just started a ppro pseudo-cross build 22:09 < tsa> but i assume it's the pseud-cross cc that doesn't work 22:09 < fake> the only greater changes were the ccache thing and the fixes for building without one. 22:09 < fake> iirc... 22:10 < tsa> ccache breaks stuff here, so i disabled it 22:10 < fake> <- didn't even try 22:10 < tsa> fake: did you try a build without pseudo-cross / cross cc? 22:10 < fake> no 22:11 < fake> esden is trying k6 22:11 < tsa> try it if you got some spare cpu cycles - i'd like to get my experiences verified 22:11 < fake> i'll do 22:11 < fake> (on one of my two processors *g*_ 22:11 < tsa> without pseudo-cross/cross, stage 0 and 1 are ok, but the chroot doesn't work, so stage 2 breaks 22:12 < tsa> at least on my system.. 22:14 < tsa> i think two things are broken - the chroot itself and the cross-cc 22:16 < fake> tsa: build running 22:17 < tsa> ok.. 22:19 < fake> ../config.h:3:3: #error "glibc cannot be compiled withou .. 22:20 < fake> douh. 22:20 < fake> -O2 missing 22:21 < tsa> hehe 22:21 < tsa> had to change this, too 22:21 < tsa> CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -O3 -march=pentium3 -fforce-addr -fomit-frame-pointer -fcse-skip-blocks -funroll-loops \ 22:21 < tsa> -frerun-cse-after-loop -fgcse -DNDEBUG=1" ./configure --prefix=$root/usr \ 22:21 < tsa> ... 22:22 < tsa> if glibc 2.3.1 fails for you during "make install", you'll have to edit glibc-2.3.1/timezone/solar87 22:23 < tsa> just remove line 385 22:25 < fake> tsa: mkay. thanks. 22:25 -!- bishop_ [bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:27 < tsa> https://www.geocrawler.com/mail/msg.php3?msg_id=9874090&list=360 22:31 < tsa> aah..ok 22:31 < tsa> pentiumpro fails, too. same error 22:31 < fake> let's have a party 22:31 < tsa> hehe 22:32 * aszlig is really depressed today... 22:32 < aszlig> re 22:32 < aszlig> hrm.. nevermind 22:33 < aszlig> Ignoring ALL from * 22:37 < rolla> re aszlig 22:38 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:39 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 22:39 < esden> wee ... 1.7 is building for athlon-thunderbird without any problems !!! that is cool ! 22:39 < esden> at least glibc is now building ... ;-) 22:39 < esden> we will see what will happen later 22:43 < tsa> esden: which one? 22:45 -!- bishophome [bishop@h062040148066.kob.cm.kabsi.at] has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:47 < owl> WAH! 22:47 < owl> wtf is wrong with curl's proxy option? 22:49 < Mike1> owl: it doesnt have support for windows proxys, is just not worth it 22:50 < Mike1> *g 22:50 < owl> *argh* 22:50 < esden> tsa: 1.7 soll ich dir meine config schicken ? 22:50 < Mike1> owl: nah seriously whats your problem? 22:51 < owl> Mike1: if i'm using curl -x169.xxx.xxx.xxx:80 it just gives out beep-codes (!) and some mystic signs on console 22:52 < fake> *lol* 22:52 < owl> fake: hm? 22:52 < fake> sure your'e not redirecting input to console? 22:52 < Mike1> ROTFL 22:52 < owl> yes... i read the manpage 22:52 < fake> read it again 22:52 < Mike1> *g 22:53 < Mike1> owl: i thought you liked armonic laugh sounds 22:54 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-176-7.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:54 < owl> Mike1: i don't feel in the mood to laugh. or even hear laugh sounds 22:54 < owl> !!! 22:54 < holyolli> moin 22:54 < owl> hi holyolli 22:54 < holyolli> hi owl 22:55 < Mike1> owl: your never in a good damn mood, so i am fscking used to it 22:55 < fake> ack 22:55 < owl> and bye 22:56 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has left #rocklinux () 22:56 < fake> *lol* 22:56 < Mike1> hehe 22:56 * fake off for some coffee 22:57 * -> esden off home -> bed -> sleep 22:59 < tsa> ROTFL 22:59 < tsa> does anyone like long URLs? 23:00 < tsa> url for glibc bug 4920: 23:00 < tsa> https://bugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/gnatsweb.pl?cmd=view%20audit-trail&database=glibc&pr=4920&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbugs.gnu.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fgnatsweb.pl%3Fdebug%3D%3Bdatabase%3Dglibc%3Bcmd%3Dsubmit%2520query%3Btext%3D2.3.1%3Bmultitext%3D%3BDate-Required_after%3D%3BDate-Required_before%3D%3BArrival-Date_after%3D%3BArrival-Date_before%3D%3BClosed-Date_after%3D%3BClosed-Date_before%3D%3BLast-Modified_after%3D%3BLast-Modified_before%3D%3BNumber%3D%3BCa 23:00 < tsa> tegory%3D%3BSynopsis%3D%3BConfidential%3D%3BSeverity%3D%3BPriority%3D%3BResponsible%3D%3BState%3D%3Bignoreclosed%3DIgnore%2520Closed%3BQuarter%3D%3BKeywords%3D%3BDate-Required%3D%3BClass%3D%3BSubmitter-Id%3D%3BArrival-Date%3D%3BClosed-Date%3D%3BCases%3D%3BLast-Modified%3D%3BOriginator%3D%3BRelease%3D%3BOrganization%3D%3BEnvironment%3D%3BDescription%3D%3BHow-To-Repeat%3D%3BFix%3D%3BRelease-Note%3D%3BAudit-Trail%3D%3BUnformatted%3D%3Bcolumns%3D 23:00 < tsa> Category%3Bcolumns%3DSynopsis%3Bcolumns%3DConfidential%3Bcolumns%3DSeverity%3Bcolumns%3DPriority%3Bcolumns%3DResponsible%3Bcolumns%3DState%3Bcolumns%3DQuarter%3Bcolumns%3DKeywords%3Bcolumns%3DDate-Required%3Bcolumns%3DClass%3Bcolumns%3DSubmitter-Id%3Bcolumns%3DArrival-Date%3Bcolumns%3DClosed-Date%3Bcolumns%3DCases%3Bcolumns%3DLast-Modified%3Bcolumns%3DOriginator%3Bcolumns%3DRelease%3Bsortby%3DNumber%3Bdisplaydate%3DCurrent%2520Date 23:00 < Mike1> ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!! 23:00 < sjefen> insane. 23:00 < Mike1> tsa! 23:00 < tsa> yes - just one URL 23:00 < Mike1> !!!!! 23:00 < tsa> hehehe 23:01 < tsa> this is really ugly 23:01 < Mike1> fake look at this 23:01 < Mike1> <owl> if you want to offend someone - then do it in RL! 23:01 < Mike1> <owl> but not with me! 23:01 < tsa> haha 23:01 < sjefen> heh. 23:01 < tsa> whatever - just sent a patch to clifford 23:02 < tcr> *bg* Mike1 nothing that you should worry about 23:02 < Mike1> tcr: i don't i have heard this before *g 23:02 < tcr> she has said something similiar to me as well 23:03 -!- holyolli [~holyolli@port-212-202-176-7.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:03 < sjefen> owl is a she? 23:03 < tcr> *g* OF COURSE 23:03 < sjefen> explains a lot :) 23:03 < Mike1> sjefen: actually explains everything 23:03 < sjefen> hehe 23:08 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5b24.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 23:08 < owl> *grrrrr* 23:08 < tsa> re owlita 23:08 < owl> am i blind, or what? 23:09 < owl> curl -x1xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xx ftp://path-to-file.tar.bz2 > test.tar.bz2 23:09 < owl> what's wrong with this fscking thing! 23:09 < owl> will the notebook explode in 5 seconds? *argh* sound to hell 23:10 < owl> re tsa 23:17 < owl> could someone please tell me what's wrong with the "wonderful" curl? 23:18 < tsa> it sucks? 23:18 < owl> curl? full ack 23:20 < esden> re hi all 23:20 < aszlig> wb esden 23:20 < owl> rehi esden 23:20 < sjefen> olla' 23:21 < esden> hi sjefen ! 23:25 < tcr> owl: what's about giving us the error message? and trying --verbose or sth 23:25 < owl> there's no error message 23:25 < owl> there's just this "beep, beep" and the stranges chars i have ever seen on console... 23:26 < owl> but why? 23:26 < tcr> plz try ftp://path/to/a/file.txt 23:26 < owl> hm? 23:27 < esden> owl: curl is cating the files it is downloading on your terminal 23:27 < esden> you have to pipe it into a file 23:27 < esden> it is described in the manpage ... 23:28 < owl> esden: where? 23:28 < owl> am i blind? 23:28 < th> esden: "curl -x1xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xx ftp://path-to-file.tar.bz2 > test.tar.bz2" she did pipe it. 23:28 < esden> o_O 23:29 < esden> ok ... sorry then owl 23:29 < owl> *g* 23:29 < owl> ok. i'm not reall blind 23:29 < th> if rock-1.5 would have a curl extension i would look for it ;) 23:30 < SMP> it's in base 23:30 < th> damnit ;-P 23:30 < owl> curl in 1.5? *wuerg* 23:30 < SMP> well it's logical since scripts/Download requires it 23:30 < th> SMP: seems that it appeared after 1.5.18 ;) 23:30 < tcr> i bet the strange character are the bz2 compressed tar archive 23:30 < th> SMP: my scripts/Download doesn't 23:30 < owl> ah so... just ... *ouch* i'm confused 23:31 < tcr> so owl: tried ftp://path/to/a/file.txt? 23:31 < owl> no... 23:31 < esden> AFAIK 1.5 uses wget for download ... but I am not sure ... it is long time I had to work on 1.5 ;-) 23:32 < th> SMP: and 1.5.19 still uses wget too 23:32 < esden> owl: curl https://www.esden.net/rocklinux/INSTALL 23:32 < owl> i think it uses it... i did a "src-update" some minutes ago... and everything worked... :) 23:32 < owl> esden: thx 23:32 < SMP> er 23:33 * SMP knows for sure that curl is in 1.5-stefanp 23:33 < th> SMP: hehe ;) 23:34 < th> but curl is in base. that's right 23:34 < owl> *grr* i can download it... 23:34 < owl> without "beep" and so on... :-/ 23:34 < tcr> haha. 23:35 < tcr> redirecting works too? 23:35 < owl> yes 23:35 < owl> install.txt --> readable txt 23:35 < owl> (even understandable for human...) 23:35 < tcr> is there an option like the -o option of sort? 23:36 < th> == 23:36:09 12/16/02 =[5]=> Finished building package curl. 23:36 * -> esden has a dumb question: Is there an easy possibility to create source iso of 1.7 ? 23:37 < tsa> esden: i have no idea - never got so far.. 23:38 < th> -o/--output <file> Write output to <file> instead of stdout 23:39 < owl> works now... without changing something... but wtf...? 23:39 < sjefen> or maybe >2& ? 23:39 < SMP> esden: easy? like "mkisofs -o src.iso download/"? 23:40 < tcr> "Manpage lesen will gelernt sein."[tm] 23:40 < esden> SMP: du -sh download/ \n 1.2G download 23:40 < owl> tcr: and reading my comments "will gelernt sein", too 23:40 < th> nimm ne dvd ;) 23:40 < owl> tcr: i did the same as i did above... 23:40 < esden> th: gute idee das mache ich doch glatt ;-) 23:41 < th> esden: und ansonsten tar und split -b650M ;-) 23:41 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49A8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 23:41 < esden> th: ich splitte es irgendwie ... passt schon 23:43 < Mike1> n8 all 23:44 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") --- Log closed Tue Dec 17 00:00:33 2002