--- Log opened Thu Dec 19 00:00:09 2002
--- Day changed Thu Dec 19 2002
00:02 < LocalHero> Not so crowded in here :(
00:30 < huebi> re
00:31 < LocalHero> huebi, the rock-src file that was ananced, wasnt that the 1.6.0pre1?
00:35 < huebi> LocalHero: No, there is still _no_ 1.6.0pre1
00:36 < huebi> SMP: Ping...
00:39 < huebi> LocalHero: I did not Release 1.6.0pre1.
00:41 < tsa> re
00:41 < tsa> hi huebi
00:42 < tsa> huebi: what happened to the cvs tree - someone who didn't know how to use cvs?
00:42 < sjefen> tired now. good night all :)
00:46 < LocalHero> huebi, sorry, it was Miguel A B. who maid the annoncement
00:47 < LocalHero> got to get some sleep, cya all
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01:01 < aszlig> rehi
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02:51 < tsa> n8
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03:12 < huebi> cu
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04:53 < qubit_> wrong term ;)
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07:08 < blindcod1r> laway
07:08 < blindcod1r> moin
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07:36 < blindcoder> moin Lori *winke*
07:40 < Lorini> moin!!
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09:15 < [anders]> moin
09:15 < esden> morning
09:18 < aszlig> 'lo esden
09:39 < blindcoder> moin [anders]
09:39 < blindcoder> hi esden
09:39 < blindcoder> tach aszlig
09:41 * blindcoder needs a clue
09:53 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriAW
09:54 * -> esden gives blindcoder a clue
09:54 < esden> erm ... glue
09:54 < esden> or ... kuh ?
09:57 < fake> hi
10:05 < esden> hi fake 
10:06 < esden> fake: und wie war es im kino ?
10:06 < esden> lohnt es sich den herr der ringe anzuschauen ?
10:11 < blindcoder> hi fake
10:12 < blindcoder> esden: I need a clue about what to do with this library...
10:13 < esden> blindcoder: library ? burn ? :D
10:13 < blindcoder> brb
10:13 * -> esden blb
10:14 < fake> esden: yes.
10:17 < blindcoder> fake: did you get an additional ticket?
10:17 < fake> blindcoder: nope.
10:17 < fake> but it was real fun watching it alone between "strangers"
10:19 < blindcoder> hmm... okay
10:19 < blindcoder> esden: not _that_ kind of library
11:19 * fake is heut wieder bei sun -_-
11:20 < blindcoder> nicht begeistert?
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11:22 < fake> naja. bissl langweilig. *g*
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11:25 < blindcoder>   hmm
11:28 < blindcoder> kann mir jemand was zum zeitverteib empfehlen?
11:28 < blindcoder> mir ist stinklangweilig
11:29 < fake> typespeed!
11:29 < blindcoder> hmm
11:48 < esden> re
11:50 < fake> re.
11:53 < huebi> moin
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11:56 < esden> moin huebi 
11:56 < esden> hi tcr 
11:56 < esden> blindcoder: if you are bored read the email from pjotr 
11:58 < tcr> hail
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12:25 < blindcoder> which one?
12:30 < huebi> blindcoder: the newest ones
12:31 < aszlig> rehi
12:32 < blindcoder> the latest mail from pjotr is the one regarding packages that don't compile in 1.6.0
12:33 < huebi> blindcoder: hmmm...
12:33 < blindcoder> is that the one you mean?
12:33 < huebi> esden: can you forward the message to blindcoder ?
12:34 < th>  379     Dec 19 pjotr@pckassa.c (   0)   mq>Re: [rock-linux] CVS is *not* fucked up!
12:34 < th> this one i suppose
12:34 < th> hi huebi
12:34 < huebi> hi th
12:36 < esden> re
12:36 < blindcoder> esden: re
12:36 < blindcoder> th: hmm... anly see one reply from LocalHero in that thread...
12:37 < th> blindcoder: oh. you are right. it was undisclosed.
12:41 * -> esden is asking himself why we are playing hiding on the lists :-/
12:43 * huebi is ansering esden: because it's more fun? *g*
12:43 < blindcoder> time for lunch
12:43 < blindcoder> see ya in about an hour
12:43 < huebi> cu blindcoder
12:43 < th> esden: because some ego's would spoil things up
12:44 < esden> *seufz*
12:44 * aszlig counts 3 days (included today) now...
12:44 < esden> huebi: cool argument ...
12:45 < huebi> I'm just writing a kind mail to Pj
12:45 < esden> wee another flamewar !!! cool !! *jumparound* (do you feel the rays of irony here ?)
12:46 < huebi> esden: yes....
12:46 < huebi> I'm just giving water on the flames..
12:47 < esden> huebi: I hope that will help ... 
12:48 < esden> last year we were so proud of not having flamewars on the mailinglist ... *remembering*
12:48 < huebi> I'm sure it will.
12:49 < esden> huebi: it sounds scary
12:51 < esden> huebi: who will get the email ? only pj ?
12:52 < th> and the stable-list i hope
12:53 < esden> th: we will see
12:53 < huebi> esden: Yes, only Pj. I do not want other to read it, I want to clear thing up and, kill the flames. And if Pj agrees he can forward it to the list.
12:53 < esden> huebi: good ... that is what I thought would be the best
12:54 < esden> huebi: you should kill personal differences in private ... and not in public
12:55 < huebi> ACK
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12:57 < owl> moin
12:59 < huebi> tach owl
12:59 < owl> hi huebi
13:01 < owl> huebi: booten von cd mit 1.5.20-cvs-selbstcompiliert... sollte das funktionieren, wenn ich die iso erstelle und dann brenne mit cdrecord dev=/dev/scsi/und/so/weiter /path/to.iso ?
13:04 < huebi> jo
13:05 < owl> hm. k. thx
13:13 < huebi> cu later. back to work now.
13:15 < owl> cu huebi. have fun
13:16 < esden> cu huebi 
13:16 < owl> hi esden
13:18 < esden> hi owl 
13:29 < blindcoder> reeeehi
13:29 < owl> hi blindcoder
13:30 < blindcoder> hi owly!
13:31 * blindcoder writig a mail to ccc@bingo
13:31 < esden> re blindy *hug*
13:31 < blindcoder> re esden *rehug*
13:31 < blindcoder> esden: shall I ask ccc@bingo if I'm the only one going to 19 since no one answered?
13:32 < blindcoder> or if I'm not wanted?
13:32 < esden> hehe ;-)
13:32 < esden> no ...
13:32 < esden> if you really want ... the first question
13:32 < esden> the second is "boese unterstellung"
13:32 < blindcoder> I got one single response, and that was from Uni that he doesn't come along
13:33 < blindcoder> esden: yes... the first would definately be better then...
13:33 < esden> yes .. if you really want to write something ... 
13:33 < blindcoder> I think I'll wait until tomorrow...
13:37 < esden> yo
13:37 < esden> better that
13:40 < blindcoder> d'ouh
13:41 < blindcoder> "Is that cable plugged into Ethernet?" - "Yes, L04 ISDN"
13:42 < esden> blindcoder: and is the ethercard still working ?
13:46 < blindcoder> no idea... I left my co-worker alone after he said thius
13:49 < esden> ahh ... ok
13:53 < blindcoder> endemhat License would you suggest for libgli? lgeneral? lesser general?
13:55 < esden> hmm ...
13:56 < esden> lgpl ?
13:56 < esden> or gpl ... 
13:56 < esden> hmm
13:56 < esden> lgpl would be my choice
13:57 < blindcoder> that's the only thing that keeps me from a release right now
13:57 < blindcoder> brb, the card sooms to still work
14:01 < esden> good
14:05 < blindcoder> re
14:05 < esden> roe
14:05 < blindcoder> okay, now everything works
14:18 < blindcoder> urks
14:19 < blindcoder> that CPS sucks...
14:19 < blindcoder>                     Total CPS:          2.538
14:19 < blindcoder>                     Correct CPS:        2.376
14:19 < blindcoder>                     Typo ratio:         6.4%
14:26 < esden> blindcoder: look at my rates >_<
14:26 < esden>                                                                                         
14:26 < esden>                     Total CPS:          3.224                                                                                       
14:26 < esden>                     Correct CPS:        2.625                                                                                       
14:26 < esden>                     Typo ratio:         18.6% 
14:26 < blindcoder>                     Total CPS:          3.275
14:26 < blindcoder>                     Correct CPS:        3.019
14:26 < blindcoder>                     Typo ratio:         7.8%
14:26 < blindcoder> much better :)
14:27 < esden> you see ... :(
14:28 < esden> blindcoder: which set are you playing ?
14:28 < blindcoder> English words
14:28 < esden> ok
14:28 < esden> me too
14:28 < blindcoder> we need network head2head :)
14:29 < esden> no ... I will loose for sure ... 
14:29 < blindcoder> we'll try today :)
14:31 < blindcoder> hehe, that game is surely something to play with mouse :D
14:32 < blindcoder>                     Total CPS:          78.659
14:35 < esden> lool
14:35 < esden> my current rank :
14:35 < esden>                     Total CPS:          3.394                                   
14:35 < esden>                     Correct CPS:        2.959                                   
14:35 < esden>                     Typo ratio:         12.8% 
14:35 < esden> I have lots of typos
14:36 < esden> I used to be better
14:37 < rolla> re
14:37 < esden> hi rolla 
14:37 < rolla> == 07:33:12 =[5]=> Building base package kdemultimedia [3.0.4 1.6.0pre1].
14:37 < rolla> my 1.6.0pre1 build is almost doen :)
14:37 < esden> rolla: how many errors ?
14:37 * blindcoder just started a 1.7 build for a co-worker :)
14:37 < esden> blindcoder: you will need some patches ...
14:38 < esden> for example for mozilla
14:38 < esden> and for binutils
14:38 < esden> mozilla is more importaint of course ;-)
14:38 < blindcoder> esden: it's intended as a router, so no need for patches :)
14:39 < rolla> esden: Zero
14:40 < rolla> blindcoder: you got 1.7 to build?
14:40 < rolla> I have never gotten that buggy thing to buils
14:40 < rolla> s/buils/build
14:41 < blindcoder> rolla: I'm running it on both of my machines
14:41 < rolla> really
14:41 < blindcoder> rolla: it helps if you have glibc231 and gcc3 on your build-system :)
14:41 < rolla> 1.7 caused me nothing but headaches
14:41 < rolla> I put it there and it still died
14:42 < rolla> so I went back to the 1.5-1.6 tree
14:42 < blindcoder> rolla: If ou like I can provide you with an iso, but don't expect everything to work
14:43 < rolla> hmm
14:43 < rolla> what doesn't work? anything big?
14:44 < blindcoder> mozilla doesn't compile yet, but the patch is pending
14:44 < blindcoder> that's the worst as far as I can tell
14:44 < rolla> hmm
14:45 < rolla> that soudns good where is this iso ?
14:45 < esden> blindcoder: ha much better: 5.   390    esden                    Average   2.918  3.252  10.26% Monkey
14:46 < esden> rolla: I am using 1.7 on my laptop for a pretty long time now ... and I am happy with it
14:46 < blindcoder>    nowhere right now, but I'm just building a no-optimisation ROCK 1.7 I can give you by tomorrow evening or if you want an optimized version by sunday evening
14:46 < rolla> either one is fine
14:46 < esden> rolla: but I build on 1.5.12 at home
14:46 < rolla> I have a test box to try it out on
14:47 < esden> and I had nearly no problems
14:47 < rolla> :)
14:47 < rolla> esden: yeah I build on a 1.5.17 box
14:47 < esden> rolla: *no_comment*
14:47 < blindcoder> rolla: okay, it'll probably be somewhere on http://scavenger.homeip.net/rock (yet to be created, erm... bandwidth?... don't ask please)
14:47 < esden> rolla: what bok do you have ?
14:48 < esden> i mean what processor ...
14:49 < blindcoder> esden: could you host the iso by any chance?
14:49 < esden> blindcoder: yes ... when I set up an ftp on my router
14:49 < rolla> PIII
14:49 < esden> blindcoder: or we put it on apollo
14:49 < esden> only for rolla
14:49 < blindcoder> webserver would be enough, but I can provide you with a config for proftpd
14:50 < rolla> :)
14:50 < esden> not for broad access
14:50 < blindcoder> esden: It would sum up to two downloads, and I don't want Zero to yell at me...
14:50 < esden> blindcoder: burn it and we will put it up when we are in bitz
14:50 < esden> then we have only the download then
14:50 < blindcoder> hm... okay, I'll tolk to Zero regarding the traffic
14:51 < esden> blindcoder: he will say ... "mir doch egal: macht's halt"
14:51 < blindcoder> esden: If he soys so, then I will :D
14:52 < esden> blindcoder: but the solution with bringing it to bitz and uploading there is a better one ... cuz much faster
14:52 < blindcoder> apt-get install mldonkey # MUAHAHAHA
14:52 < esden> then using your connection
14:52 < blindcoder> esden: nsure, but there will be 2 downloads.
14:52 < esden> 2 downloads ?
14:52 < esden> why ?
14:52 < esden> rolla: and ?
14:52 < blindcoder> rolla and my co-worker. I don't see him anytime soon because of vacation
14:53 < rolla> what ?
14:53 < esden> your co worker can download it from your slow connection ;-)
14:53 < esden> he is not an active rocker ;-) 
14:53 * -> esden is bad ... and enjois it ;-)
14:54 < rolla> :)
14:54 < blindcoder> I'll ask Zero first... then decide :)
14:54 * rolla is very tires this morning
14:54 < esden> blindcoder: kk
14:54 < rolla> s/tires/tired
14:54 < blindcoder> rolla: I'm very tired the whole day now... 5 hours of sleep
14:54 < esden> rolla: get some sleep ... or a sleep substitute named coffee
14:54 < esden> ;-)
14:54 < rolla> yeah that is about right
14:55 < rolla> I can't my son woke me up at 5:15
14:55 < blindcoder> I live on my second can of coffee today
14:55 < esden> urgh
14:55 < rolla> and I was up late watching LoTR TT
14:55 < esden> poor rolla having children ... 
14:55 < blindcoder> rolla: that's exactly when I cot up
14:55 < esden> are you spawning geeks ?
14:55 < blindcoder> s/cot/got/
14:55 < rolla> yeah he is only 3 months
14:55 < blindcoder> esden: child-processes :)
14:55 < esden> blindcoder: ack
14:55 < rolla> The first book I read him was the K&R C book :)
14:55 < blindcoder> rolla: *lol*
14:55 < esden> rofl !!!
14:56 < esden> rolla: well done ;-)
14:56 < rolla> my wife hates it :)
14:56 < rolla> next Programming perl
14:56 < esden> muahaha
14:56 < blindcoder> when is "Configuring Seendmail" scheduled?
14:56 < rolla> now if I could just fork another process of myself and get some sleep ;)
14:56 < esden> and the next one "Regular Expressions" from oreilly
14:56 < rolla> age 8 for that ugly book :)
14:57 < rolla> don't want to scare him too early
14:57 < blindcoder> rolla: I'm afraid you're already a Zombie :)
14:57 < esden> rolla: ok
14:57 < rolla> regex rules :)
14:57 < esden> rolla# ps aux
14:58 < rolla> anyone know what really happened with cvs ?
14:59 < blindcoder> as far as I understood it, the 'team' released 1.6.0pre1 without the maintainer and tagged the CVS
15:00 < blindcoder> somewhere in the process some files seem to have been meved directly on the cvs-server and not via cvs commit
15:00 < rolla> what?
15:00 < rolla> that sucks
15:01 < blindcoder> thus fscking up the history and rendering it unable to cvs co -d <DATE>
15:02 < blindcoder> (or -r <DATE> or whatever)
15:02 < rolla> wow
15:02 < blindcoder> so the patches need to be committed again since tho last backup which is august
15:03 < rolla> wow.
15:03 < rolla> backups must do backups :)
15:03 < esden> argh ... the machines here are too slow to play pong >_<
15:03 < blindcoder> but that's only what I understood, it may be completely false, reflecting wrong understandings, personal opinions and general failures
15:03 < rolla> nod
15:04 < esden> blindcoder: well protected ...
15:04 * blindcoder should stop reading Dislaimers and EULAs :)
15:04 < esden> blindcoder: do not throw too many exceptions
15:04 < SMP> well of course files were moved in the repository (in a sane manner, though). CVS cannot version moved or copies
15:05 < blindcoder> yes, that's one of CVS' shortcomings
15:06 < SMP> the "CVS fuckup" is not really the problem huebi makes it sound like
15:07 < esden> SMP: can it be that there was a problem with information flow in the rock stable group ?
15:08 < SMP> there is no such thing in the stable group
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15:08 < esden> so who is working on 1.5 then ?
15:09 < esden> hi tcr 
15:09 < blindcoder> hi tcr
15:10 < SMP> esden: I don't know who is still aboard
15:10 * tcr hails all
15:11 < esden> SMP: I thought that it was a group consisting at least of huebi,Mike1,Pj and tsa 
15:11 < tcr> hmm, me is actually working
15:12 < esden> ok ... then you tcr are also in that "group"
15:13 < tcr> also th fixes things from times to times
15:14 < esden> it seems that there is no real coordination there
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15:19 < SMP> esden: Mike must have been scared away already. he asked me to remove his CVS account.
15:19 < SMP> (though I didn't take that all so seriously)
15:24 * blindcoder going home, see you!
15:25 < esden> I could also ask you to remove my account ... but who knows what the future will bring.
15:25 < esden> cu blindcoder 
15:26 * -> esden -> home
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15:31 < owl> I could also ask you to remove my account ... but who knows what
15:31 < owl>                the future will bring.
15:31 < owl> 15:25 < esden> cu blindcoder
15:31 < owl> soorry
15:50 < rolla> re SMP
15:50 < rolla> == 08:48:04 =[5]=> Building base package kdesdk [3.0.4 1.6.0pre1].
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16:09 < clifford> Yo gang!
16:09 < rolla> re
16:09 < rolla> wie geht's?
16:10 < clifford> geht so - programmier grad' nokia telephone..
16:10 < clifford> irgendwie verbaut, aber cool.
16:10 < rolla> :)
16:10 < rolla> I wish I had one of those :)
16:11 < clifford> sdk and emulator can be downloaded from the webpage.
16:11 < clifford> But the c++ class model is ugly, imo.
16:12 < rolla> :)
16:12 < owl> hi clifford
16:12 < rolla> re owl
16:12 < owl> hi rolla
16:13 < rolla> Owl you like LotR ?
16:13 * tcr is stracing -f -eopen Build-Pkg sed >_< in hope to get a solution where the heck the .log file is created allthough the touch line is neve evaluated
16:13 < owl> rolla: yeah. but still did not see LotR II
16:13 < rolla> :(
16:13 < owl> rolla: you?
16:13 < clifford> tcr: which .log file?
16:13 < rolla> ja I saw it last night :)
16:13 < rolla> very good
16:14 < rolla> 3hours long
16:14 < owl> rolla: that's not fair *crying* ;)
16:14 < tcr> clifford: make install returns 2, but the script prints "== [...] Finished building package sed [...]"
16:14 < rolla> :) why have you not seen it yet?
16:14 < clifford> Q: Does anyone of you know a good (german) hosting provider which can also do some of the system administration? (a friend just asked)
16:14 < tcr> that made me curious and now it's the second day I'm digging the problem
16:15 < tcr> ah strace has finished
16:16 < clifford> I have only cygwin here so I can't trace the problem down right now .. ;-(
16:16 < tcr> it's 1.5 anyway
16:17 < clifford> oh.  ;-)
16:19 < tcr> hm, no open() call for the sed.log file
16:19 < tcr> are there any other functions I should search for?
16:19 < clifford> open64()
16:20 < tcr> invalid system call
16:22 < clifford> hmm...
16:23 < clifford> creat() and creat64() would also be interesting, btw.
16:24 < tcr> aah!! thanks, i actually thought of this but tried 'create' which failed ;)
16:35 -!- LoriAW is now known as Lorini
16:37 < tcr> juhu! I finally got what causes this bug
16:38 < tcr>  $root/var/adm/logs/$logpf-$pkg.log is actually deleted in the beginning of Build-Pkg
16:39 < tcr> and all time i thought it _is_ removed, but - to let make install fail - i executed Build-Pkg with UID != 0
16:40 < tcr> so the script couldn't remove the file which fact produced this strange error
16:46 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
17:00 < tcr> huebi: ping
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17:06 < th> re
17:08 < rolla> re th
17:09 * blindcoder now to be found on a randow bzflag server
17:09 < tcr> hm?
17:10 < esden> re hi all
17:27 < blindcoder> re esden
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17:30 < esden> cu 
17:31 * -> esden be back (blindcoder I am in bitz in half an hour)
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17:40 < rolla> == 10:40:59 =[5]=> Building base package mtx [1.2.16rel 1.6.0pre1].
17:40 < rolla> :)
17:40 < rolla> getting close
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17:46 < tcr> hi pjotrp
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17:48 < owl> re
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18:09 < rolla> :( no router for me
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18:10 < owl> re
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18:30 < th> hmmm will there be a rock-1.8?
18:32 < blindcoder> I don't think so
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18:45 < rolla> == 11:40:42 =[5]=> Building base package rock-debug [1.6.0pre1 1.6.0pre1].
18:46 < tcr> nice rolla
18:48 < rolla> yes stage 5 is almost done :)
18:48 < rolla> then the broken install disks
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18:55 < armijn> re
18:56 -!- soulfly [~capchaos@pD9048435.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #RockLinux
18:56 < owl> hi armijn, soulfly
18:57 < armijn> hi owl
18:59 < soulfly> moin
19:02 -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BB4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
19:02 < soulfly> moin tsa
19:02 < tsa> moin.
19:02 < tsa> hi soulfly
19:02 < owl> hi tsa
19:02 < tsa> hi owl
19:02 < armijn> blah
19:02 < tsa> hi armijn
19:03 < armijn> hiya
19:08 < armijn> well...almost vacation...
19:11 < armijn> just one more day to go...
19:13 < armijn> and then owl will not be hugged for about 2 weeks...
19:15 < armijn> and I don't think she'll mind
19:29 < armijn> blah.
19:29 < tcr> hehe
19:30 < tcr> armijn always comes because of he's bored, but instead of getting a chat, everyone is idling
19:30 < tcr> poor armijn
19:30 < armijn> I think everyone is "idle" on purpose...
19:31 < tcr> yes, i'll be regarded as the traitor from now >_<
19:32 < armijn> awww, poor thing...
19:32 < tcr> indeed
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19:51 < armijn> blah
19:52 < soulfly> armijn: Why are you blah'ing ?
19:52 < armijn> soulfly: because I feel like it
19:52 < soulfly> ;)
19:53 < armijn> soulfly: why are you smiling?
19:53 < soulfly> To blah or not to blah that is here the question.
19:53 < soulfly> armijn: Cause I feel like it.
19:53 < armijn> see?
19:53 < soulfly> No..
19:53 < armijn> oh
19:54 < owl> the most important questions should be asked now about the famout word "blah" later this day you can read them at the F.A.Q
19:54 < owl> s/famout/famous
19:54 < armijn> owl: still ill?
19:55 < owl> armijn: yep . :P
19:55 < armijn> you're faking it
19:55 < armijn> it is said women are pretty good at faking things
19:55 < owl> heh! do you wanna survive the day, armijn ?
19:56 < tsa> hehe
19:56 < armijn> but it's the truth!
19:56 < armijn> never seen "When Harry met Sally"?
19:56 < owl> armijn: never seen... and i guess i missed nothing, did i?
19:57 < th> has anyone a linux-thread-snippet handy?
19:57 < SMP> owl: the most famous fake orgasm in movie history
19:57 < armijn> owl: you should see it, it's funny...
19:57 < owl> SMP: heh!
19:57 < owl> hi btw, SMP
19:57 < owl> armijn: hm. funny movie... no thx.
19:58 < armijn> owl: it was a blow to the head for men all over the world
19:58 < th> SMP: that one in the restaurant, IIRC
19:58 < armijn> th: exactly
19:58 < th> wow. even me knows it.
19:58 < th> it MUST be famous
19:58 < SMP> he he
19:58 < armijn> yeah, even you knows it
19:58 < owl> ??? everybody knows it...? what's so special with it?
19:59 < owl> men, something you really don't need to understand :)
19:59 < SMP> owl: maybe picking up the topic in a mainstream movie.
20:00 * armijn thinks owl doesn't see enough movies
20:00 < owl> armijn: hm. yeah. that's possible...
20:00 < SMP> . o O ( /me thinks owl *beeep* *beeep beep beeeeeeeep* )
20:00 < armijn> owl: but that's no reason not to see it...
20:01 < owl> SMP: ? yes ?
20:01 < SMP> nothing.
20:01 < armijn> owl: *beeep* *beeep beep beeeeeeeep*
20:01 < owl> morse-codes?
20:02 < SMP> censorship
20:02 < owl> tsss
20:02 < armijn> but knowing SMP it must have to do something with *beeep* *beeep beep beeeeeeeep*
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20:03 < owl> Lorini: help me fighting the war against those evil men, please! ;)
20:03 * SMP thinks Lorini probably calls one of those her own
20:04 < armijn> owl: we're not evil, your perception of us is just twisted
20:04 < owl> SMP: full ack
20:04 * SMP acks armijn 
20:04 < armijn> oh? what's so special about lorini?
20:04 < SMP> armijn: nothing. opposed to owl ;>
20:04 < owl> armijn: why twisted? ;)
20:04 < fake> nabend
20:04 < owl> moin fake
20:06 < armijn> hmm, googling for lorini gives funny results
20:07 < soulfly> armijn: Orange Juice? ;)
20:07 < tsa> armijn: hehe..indeed ;)
20:08 < armijn> soulfly: no thanks
20:08 < SMP> lol
20:09 < armijn> well, guess it's time to catch a bus, catch a train and start reading that new DHCP book I got...
20:10 < armijn> a few hundred pages about DHCP, can you imagine?
20:10 < armijn> so, am off
20:10 < armijn> cu
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20:10 < fake> bye!
20:11 < tsa> fake: do you remember who brought the coffee machine to linuxtag? esden?
20:11 < fake> it was nos's
20:11 < fake> errrr
20:11 < fake> it was mine ;)
20:11 < tsa> lol
20:11 < fake> no.... that was 18c3
20:12 < fake> on linuxtag it was carlos's
20:12 < tsa> fake: whatever.
20:12 < tsa> you seem to be kinda confused today, hm? ;)
20:12 < fake> but we will bring at least one to 19C3, nevermind.
20:12 < tsa> ok, that's all i wanted to know
20:12 * th will have club-mate, no need for coffee
20:13 < tsa> i can't live without coffee
20:13 < fake> me neither
20:13 < fake> well, i think i could, but i don't want to
20:13 < tsa> fake: ok, dann bring ich nen pfung kaffeepulver mit oder so
20:14 < th> i'm afraid same applies to me for club-mate
20:14 < tsa> s,g,d,
20:14 < fake> tsa: kuhl
20:14 < th> tsa: damit hast du gerade das letzte orthographisch korrekte verb aus dem satz verbannt ;)
20:15 < tsa> oops ;)
20:15 < fake> brinden? *g*
20:17 < tsa> still wondering when ripclaw will arrive in berlin
20:17 < rolla> == 12/19/02 13:02:24 =[S]=> Building subdistribution install-disks.
20:17 < rolla> Building. Writing output to rock-ia32-i386-1.6.0pre1/info/logs/s-install-disks.out
20:17 < rolla> > 96    ./insmod
20:17 < rolla> > 84    ./bzip2
20:17 < rolla> >
20:17 < rolla> > #### Creating symlinks for multi-call binaries ####
20:17 < rolla> > rm: invalid option -- v
20:17 < rolla> > ln: invalid option -- v
20:17 < rolla> > BusyBox v0.60.2 (2002.12.19-17:39+0000) multi-call binary
20:17 < rolla> >
20:17 < rolla> > Usage: ln [OPTION] TARGET... LINK_NAME|DIRECTORY
20:18 < rolla> rock-ia32-i386-1.6.0pre1/info/logs/s-install-disks.out -> s-install-disks.err
20:18 < rolla> and boom goes the install disks :)
20:18 < fake> *lol*
20:18 < rolla> but I will load the ISO tonight on the test box
20:19 < rolla> then I try 1.7 build :)
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20:20 < tsa> which cpu optimisation?
20:20 < gnupg> hi all
20:21 < tsa> hi gnupg
20:21 < rolla> for the 1.6?
20:21 < tsa> please don't encrypt us, i've lost my private key? ;)
20:21 < tsa> nope, 1.7
20:21 < rolla> I am going to try for i686
20:22 < rolla> why?
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20:22 < tsa> it'll probably break, then
20:22 < tsa> athlon stuff seems to work, but any pentium(2|3) stuff breaks
20:22 < tsa> see mailing list
20:23 < rolla> hmm that sucks
20:23 < tsa> ack
20:24 < rolla> do I need to have gcc3.2?
20:24 < tsa> anyway..try it and report back to the list
20:24 < tsa> no, you don't
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20:28 < rolla> good then I shall try no optimisation
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20:30 < tcr> rolla: does the error log tell anything more detailed?
20:31 < tsa> hm..
20:31 < rolla> nope
20:31 < tsa> i wonder why we're using a binutils beta version in 1.7
20:32 < rolla> busybox doesn't support the -v for me
20:32 < rolla> either that or it is umount ;)
20:32 * tsa downloading binutils 2.13
20:32 < tsa> (release, that is)
20:33 < tcr> rolla: do you intend to dig into this problem?
20:34 < rolla> yes. I have before :(
20:34 < rolla> without much luck
20:34 < tcr> still exactly the same?
20:34 < rolla> yes
20:34 < rolla> I try many differant things
20:34 < tcr> hmm
20:34 < rolla> I even went and compiled it all by hand just like the scripts does and it worked but the script does not :(
20:35 < tcr> ;)
20:35 < tcr> a nasty bug of Build-Pkg bothered me yesterday and today, but now I got it fixed :)
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20:36 < fake> flood:
20:36 < rolla> good
20:36 < fake> bash-2.03# psrinfo -v
20:36 < fake> Status of processor 0 as of: 12/19/02 20:24:38
20:36 < fake>   Processor has been on-line since 06/06/02 09:02:00.
20:36 < fake>   The sparcv9 processor operates at 400 MHz,
20:36 < fake>         and has a sparcv9 floating point processor.
20:36 < tsa> just one?
20:36 < fake> bash-2.03# uptime
20:36 < tsa> ;)
20:36 < fake>   8:24pm  up 196 day(s), 12:23,  1 user,  load average: 0.12, 0.10, 0.09
20:36 < fake> bash-2.03# uname -a
20:36 < fake> SunOS db 5.7 Generic_106541-08 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-250
20:36 < fake> bash-2.03#
20:36 < fake> my new playground ;)
20:36 < tsa> fake: nice
20:36 < rolla> :)
20:36 < fake> (not mine... :( )
20:36 < tsa> fake: what is it?
20:36 < tsa> u5/u10?
20:36 < rolla> E350
20:36 < rolla> E250 I mean
20:37 < tsa> aah
20:37 < rolla> only a single psr?
20:37 < rolla> you should have 2 in there ;)
20:37 < tsa> hehe
20:37 < tsa> what cpu is it - usparc II or IIi ?
20:37 < fake> sec
20:38 * tsa having a usparc IIi chip which sucks for having a way too small cpu cache
20:39 < rolla> :)
20:40 < rolla> I think IIi were on U5 not E250's
20:40 < tsa> on u100, too..
20:40 < tsa> u10 even
20:40 < tsa> well..u5 and u10 are almost equal..
20:40 < tsa> basically, both of them just suck.
20:40 < tsa> <- owning an u10, 333mhz
20:41 < tsa> small cpu cache, memory too expensive, ide systems..
20:41 < rolla> U10 are not that bad :)
20:41 < rolla> fake: just do /usr/platform/`uname -i`/sbin/prtdiag -v
20:42 < rolla> that will tell you more ;)
20:42 < tsa> well...i got 512mb RAM for mine, removed all the ide crap...
20:42 < rolla> :)
20:43 < rolla> if you didn't want the ide go for a bigger box :)
20:43 < rolla> I have a U60 that is nice :)
20:43 < tsa> uhm...money..
20:43 < tsa> ACK!
20:43 < rolla> but the Blade 1000 is better
20:43 < rolla> very true
20:43 < tsa> i'd like an u60, too
20:43 < rolla> :)
20:43 < tsa> do you have 2 cpus?
20:43 < rolla> in which?
20:43 < tsa> the u60
20:43 < rolla> nope
20:44 < rolla> single
20:44 < rolla> it is a sandbox
20:44 < tsa> ah..which framebuffer?
20:44 < rolla> the main machines are E250's and 280R's
20:44 < tsa> nice..really nice
20:44 < rolla> cheap used as a server
20:44 < rolla> I think there a PGX cards
20:44 < tsa> ah..
20:45 < tsa> i got the u10 off ebay for 500 USD about a year ago or something..
20:47 < tsa> it works, but it's just too slow to be a good replacement for my x86 desktop box, so i don't use it very often..
20:48 < esden> hi all
20:49 < tsa> hi esden!!
20:50 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
20:59 < owl> re esden, blindcoder
21:06 < rolla> tsa: yeah
21:06 < rolla> where is the busybox for the install disks I am having a hard remmembering
21:08 < tsa> !> make[1]: *** [kill.os] Error 1
21:08 < tsa> FSCK!
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21:21 * rolla jumps 
21:21 < rolla> I am going to get another alpha :) now I will have 4
21:21 < tsa> hehe
21:22 < soulfly> rolla: Share with us...
21:22 < tsa> how fast?
21:22 < rolla> not sure most likly another 333mhz
21:22 < rolla> ev5 alcor
21:23 < rolla> Wish I had one of the fast alphas
21:23 < tsa> don't have an alpha at all..
21:23 < rolla> :)
21:23 < tsa> <- want u60 with 2x450 mhz, elite 3d m6, and a nice a1000 array or something similar
21:24 < rolla> why would you want to put a nice A1000 on a U60 :(
21:24 < rolla> I have a A1000 on a E450 :) now that is great
21:25 < tsa> you seem to have too much money, hm? ;)
21:25 < rolla> 4 400 Mhz :)
21:25 < rolla> these are work boxes ;)
21:25 < rolla> that I run
21:25 < rolla> so I don with them as I wish
21:26 < tsa> hm..
21:26 < rolla> the Blade 1000 is the toy that I get to have under my desk
21:26 < rolla> so it is not as cool as you may have thought
21:26 < tsa> where do you work, where do i have to send my CV? ;)
21:27 < rolla> you don't want to work here
21:27 < rolla> and what does CV stand for?
21:28 < tsa> curriculum vitae
21:28 < rolla> what the hell language is that?
21:28 < tsa> latin ;)
21:28 < tcr> lol rolla
21:29 < tsa> rolla: the sheet of paper with when you were born, your parents and education...
21:29 < rolla> hmm odd here we call it a resume
21:29 < tcr> btw: rolla where do you come from? I always said you are german, since the realname entry is "Der Affe"
21:30 < rolla> and it has nothing about your parents and were you where born only education and work history
21:30 < rolla> I am american
21:30 < rolla> I learned German in school but I am not that good at it :)
21:30 < tsa> ah, i see..
21:30 < tcr> real US citizen?
21:30 < rolla> yup
21:30 < rolla> born and raised
21:31 < tcr> ;P never thought that
21:31 < tsa> living where?
21:31 < rolla> the state of missouri
21:31 < rolla> it is in the middle of the country
21:31 < rolla> you have to love the internet :)
21:32 < tcr> nice
21:32 < rolla> yeah I am slowly relearning german
21:32 < rolla> I like to say I speak like a retarded 1st grader
21:33 < tcr> well speaking german must be like hell
21:33 < rolla> why?
21:34 < tcr> without having been living in germany for some years almost impossible to speak at least a bit smoothly
21:35 < rolla> very true
21:35 < tcr> even most of german people arent able to speak and esp write real german
21:35 < rolla> I must just work on the words and grammer :)
21:35 < rolla> same with english
21:35 < tcr> grammar is something you american don't know ;P
21:36 < tcr> americans
21:36 < tcr> btw. are you republican?
21:36 < rolla> warum?
21:37 < rolla> cause our pres. is being dumb right now?
21:37 < rolla> and we know grammer we just chose not to use it ;)
21:37 < rolla> atleast our words don't have to have gender :P
21:38 < tcr> hmm i talked recently with an american (2 or 3 days ago i think) who said that all republicans arent too dumb to get what's really going on with their country
21:38 < tcr> s,arent,are
21:38 < tcr> ,
21:38 < rolla> that is not a true statement
21:39 < th> rolla: you can't know
21:39 < th> perhaps he really DID talk with an american
21:39 < tcr> ?
21:39 < rolla> there are a lot of people that are just mad and do not think but you can't say that all republicans are that way
21:39 < rolla> th: :P
21:40 < th> ,oO(this one just took a bit longer)
21:40 < rolla> th: he did but the american's statment was wrong
21:40 < tcr> rolla: well. 100% doesnt exist in real world anyway
21:40 < tcr> so he just meant the majority
21:40 < rolla> true but I know plenty of republicans that are not blind to what is going one
21:40 < th> rolla: most statements with "all" or "none" are not true.
21:40 < rolla> I just think the democrats are full of shit
21:41 < tcr> he isn't even democratic
21:41 < rolla> then what is he?
21:41 < th> perhaps he's president
21:41 < rolla> :)
21:41 < tcr> he got pissed off the american politics
21:41 < tcr> and is going to move to canada
21:41 < rolla> that is easy to do
21:42 < rolla> :)
21:42 < rolla> is he from here orginally?
21:42 < tcr> ;P he's certainly not an indian
21:42 < th> ,oO(he might be even of alien nature...)
21:42 < rolla> okay you know what I mean/
21:42 < tcr> but a true american, at least he made the impression
21:43 < th> ,oO(a spectator from future...)
21:43 < rolla> yeah I would like know if he really follow through with the move to canada
21:43 < tcr> hmm we talked about the miranda law
21:43 < rolla> :) how do you know this person?
21:43 < tcr> internet
21:44 < rolla> nod
21:44 < th> ,oO(is it even possible to _know_ a person through "internet"?)
21:44 < rolla> :)
21:44 < tcr> well i said he's about moving, but there is always one problem: how to finance
21:44 < tcr> th?
21:45 < rolla> true most people are all talk and no action
21:45 < tcr> i really hope you president is one of those
21:45 < tcr> +r
21:45 < rolla> yeah I have no idea what they are doing now
21:46 < rolla> I think they are trying to piss off the whole world
21:46 < rolla> when they could just as easly do what they want and keep people ahppy
21:46 < rolla> oh well Gore is a plant and would have really screwed up before now so what the hell
21:47 < tcr> a 2-party system is as shit as hell, imo
21:47 < rolla> it is not a 2 party but there is little else
21:48 < tcr> yes i know
21:48 < rolla> :)
21:48 < rolla> better than jessie jackson as pres
21:50 < tcr> can't say in german politics is everything as good as it should be. Though i'm glad to live here
21:50 < rolla> so how are german poltics doing?
21:50 < rolla> :) you should be it is a nice country
21:51 < tcr> well, you may know schröder was elected to the chancler again
21:51 < rolla> ja
21:51 < rolla> was that what you wanted?
21:51 < tcr> before the elections he said, he will _never_ participate in a possible iraq war
21:52 < th> well he has his soldiers...
21:52 < rolla> whatever
21:52 < tcr> some days ago he said he'll give military aid as much as the UN wants it
21:52 < rolla> you should know that
21:52 < tcr> but only interior to UN members
21:53 < tcr> well that's about foreign policy, internal politics are screwy as well
21:54 < rolla> :>)
21:55 < tcr> but at least our policemen are not allowed to torture people that was caught because of suspicions
21:55 < rolla> ?
21:55 < tcr> zo make them say what the police wants to hear from them
21:55 < tcr> yes, that's the new miranda law
21:55 < rolla> ours are not allowed to either
21:55 < tcr> i think it's called that way
21:56 < rolla> but like most things some people do not follow them
21:56 < rolla> new?
21:56 < rolla> the miranda law is old
21:56 < tcr> hm, ok
21:57 < tcr> aaaah, i gtg
21:57 < tcr> meeting friends to watch bladeII
21:57 < rolla> :)
21:57 < rolla> talk to you later
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21:57 < tcr> cu all
21:57 < tcr> yes we will
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22:00 < rolla> th: what are you up to tonight?
22:00 < th> hackin'
22:00 < rolla> on what?
22:00 < rolla> vim oder rock?
22:00 < th> neither
22:00 < rolla> then what?
22:00 < th> some huge RPC framework
22:01 < rolla> cool for work?
22:01 < th> ack
22:01 < rolla> nice
22:01 < th> wouldn't do that for study ;-)
22:01 < th> neither for fun ;)
22:01 -!- soulfly [~capchaos@pD9048435.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("There is no spoon.")
22:01 < th> it's just the profit that makes me doing it...
22:02 < rolla> I am getting ready work on bmw club site
22:08 < rolla> th :)
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22:28 < rolla> re
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23:02 < mourlo> hi
23:02 < owl> hi mourlo
23:02 < mourlo> fake, are you here man?
23:03 < demian> hi mourlo
23:03 < demian> hi all
23:03 < owl> hi demian
23:03 < demian> owl!
23:04 < demian> have u seen Mike last days ?
23:04 < owl> hm. yesterday i guess
23:05 < demian> ok, thanx
23:08 < owl> mount -o loop /m
23:08 < owl> aaaaaaaargh
23:11 < mourlo> I am looking for fake because I found with google an irc log from this channel where he had the same error I get compiling glibc
23:11 < mourlo> I was wondering how he solved it (if he did)
23:11 < tsa> which error?
23:11 < mourlo> do you know when he will be online ?
23:11 < mourlo> ok I will show you
23:11 < tsa> kill.os in signal/, asssembler stuff?
23:12 < mourlo> ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/errlist.c:41: weak declaration of `_old_sys_nerr' must precede definition
23:12 < mourlo> make[1]: *** [errlist.os] Error 1
23:12 < tsa> oh, something else.
23:12 < demian> umm
23:13 < tsa> hm...afke was last present here about three hours ago
23:13 < tsa> don't know if he already fixed this..
23:13 < mourlo> ok thanks
23:13 < tsa> which glibc is this, 2.3.1 or 2.2.5?
23:14 < mourlo> xm... thereis 2.3.1 ? :^)
23:14 < tsa> there seems to be a problem regarding glibc 2.3.1, gcc 3.2.1 and current binutils..
23:14 < mourlo> 2.2.5.. Im sorry
23:15 < tsa> hm..which gcc and binutils are you using?
23:15 < mourlo> I am building a LFS system
23:16 < mourlo> and for that package have:
23:16 < mourlo> gcc version 3.2.1
23:17 < mourlo> binutils 2.13
23:17 < mourlo> binutils 2.13.1
23:17 < mourlo> statically linked
23:17 < tsa> hm..
23:18 < mourlo> hrm
23:18 < mourlo> let me try WITH cpu specific flags this time
23:18 < mourlo> since gcc was compiled for i486
23:18 < mourlo> the target computer...
23:19 < tsa> perhaps binutils-2.13.90.0.4 from ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/devel/binutils/ might help, but i've never encountered this specific error..
23:21 < mourlo> ok I'll try other binutils version if still have a problem
23:22 < mourlo> the LFS book says 2.13 binutils I used 2.13.1 I thought no big difference ... but
23:34 < owl> mourlo: are you using lfs-book, latest release or lfs-book-cvs-version?
23:35 < mourlo> 4.0-rc1
23:36 < owl> and where exactly did you have the problem? in the chroot?
23:36 < mourlo> I did something else, I am compiling now without the patch that says the book
23:36 < owl> and which programm? (didn't follow the discussion...)
23:36 < mourlo> yes in chroot
23:36 < mourlo> glibc
23:37 < owl> oh yeah. i remember it... i had it too... but i got "no space left on device" so i temporarily gave lfs up :-/
23:37 < owl> (had error on glibc)
23:38 < tsa> owl: a full disk isn't glibc's fault..
23:39 < mourlo> I dont have space either, I have a 420Mb disk, so I mounted from the chroot the /home/lfs user and compile the packages there! ;-) (I got some spare Gs there)
23:39 < owl> tsa: *lol* yes. of course. but i got lfs up because i got "no space left on device" (because i would have to repartition the HD.... and i'm too lazy/having no time)
23:40 < mourlo> Well, I just got the same error :}
23:40 < owl> mourlo: *lol* congrats :)
23:42 < esden> hi all
23:43 < owl> hi esden
23:43 < esden> hi owl 
23:44 < owl> mourlo: might you should send your questions to lfs-ml?
23:47 < mourlo> mmm what is that ?
23:47 < owl> the mailing-list of LFS
23:47 < owl> (see homepage of LFS-project...)
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