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--- Log opened Sat Dec 21 00:00:44 2002
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00:01 < holyolli> moin
00:01 < owl> hi holyolli
00:02 < holyolli> hi owl *hug* ;)
00:02 < holyolli> huebi?
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00:11 < SMP> holyolli: not logged in
00:12 < holyolli> SMP: thx!
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01:26 < owl> YEAH! i won! evil kernel lost the war!
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02:07 < sjefen> ja.
02:07 < sjefen> i get some checksum errors on the packages i'm downloading, normal?
02:18 < esden> hi all
02:24 < owl> hi esden
02:24 < sjefen> hello
02:26 < sjefen> is it normal to don't get to download all the packages and get some crc errors on some packages?
02:31 < esden> sjefen: no that is not normal
02:32 < sjefen> darn.
02:32 < esden> but if you use a mirror then some packages could not be avalable
02:32 < esden> then use -mirror none option
02:32 < sjefen> tried that.
02:32 < sjefen> and -mirror lots_of_stuff.
02:32 < esden> but ?
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02:33 < sjefen> if there ain't no direct solution I think I'll just check it out tomorrow or something..
02:33 < esden> sjefen: what are you trying to download ? 1.7 or 1.5 ?
02:33 < sjefen> 1.7
02:34 < sjefen> anthem, flash and povuni is the troublers.
02:34 < sjefen> ARE the troublers even.
02:34 < sjefen> *grin*
02:38 < esden> hmm ... 
02:39 < sjefen> yeah, that's what I said too.
02:39 < esden> I downloaded all 1.7 sources three days ago ... and it worked without any problems
02:39 < esden> ok ... povuni could be a toppic because the server is darn slow
02:39 < esden> but I got it down
02:39 < rolla_rock> esden: really?
02:39 < sjefen> yeah, well maybe I'm just too drunk or too tired, I'll try tomorrow :)
02:39 < rolla_rock> I had mine died on stage 1 gcc2
02:40 < esden> I would make my downloaded files avalable if my machine would not be down for 19c3 transport ;-)
02:40 < esden> rolla_rock: o_O
02:41 < rolla_rock> esden: I am repartitiong my P4 right now to use to build rock on :)
02:41 < sjefen> I need a P4 too.
02:41 < esden> rolla_rock: I finished my athlon tbird build yesterday (20.12.2002) 
02:41 < esden> and besides some kde, gnome and rene stuff ... all compiled
02:42 < esden> even the install disks are building with 0 errors !
02:42 < rolla_rock> mine was a non-opto build for i386 and it sent south
02:42 < rolla_rock> have to try on the new box
02:42 < esden> rolla_rock: yo ... do it 
02:42 * -> esden updating 19c3 data on rocklinux.org ... 
02:43 < rolla_rock> :)
02:53 < esden> ok ... updated
02:53 * -> esden -> home pack things together -> leaving at 9:00 to Warsaw (Poland)
02:53 < esden> cu all
02:54 < esden> have a marry xmas
02:54 < owl> bye esden. "frohe weihnachten"
03:15 < rolla_rock> okay who can help me with lilo?
03:15 < sjefen> maybe. a bit afk...
03:16 < rolla_rock> I need to add the lines to boot my windows OS
03:16 < sjefen> mkay.
03:18 < sjefen> other=/dev/discs/discX/partX
03:19 < sjefen> table=/dev/discs/discX/disc
03:19 < sjefen> label = windows
03:25 < rolla_rock> thanks
03:25 < rolla_rock> that works
03:26 < rolla_rock> odd my keyboard does not work
03:30 < rolla_rock> hmm I need usb support under X how do I do this?
03:31 < sjefen> good luck. I'm too tired to help you with that now. you might wanna recompile your kernel.
03:32 < sjefen> you need something called HID.
03:34 < owl> i go to bed now. gn8
03:34 < sjefen> nite'
03:40 < rolla_rock> nacht
03:40 < rolla_rock> yeah I am recompiling my kernel right now
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04:28 < rolla> re all
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06:37 < sjefen> +++++++++++
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08:08 < cchamilt> Hi all.
08:08 < cchamilt> Anyone built python on 1.6 lately?
08:08 < cchamilt> 1.7 I mean.
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08:43 < cchamilt> Anyone awake?
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11:01 < owl> re
11:01 < owl> good morning
11:02 < tcr> moin
11:05 < owl> moin tcr
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11:21 < cOdEz> moin
11:21 < tcr> moin
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11:57 < holyolli> moin
12:06 < cOdEz> hi owl
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12:06 < dennis> hi
12:07 < holyolli> hi dennis
12:24 < owl> hi cOdEz, holyolli, dennis
12:25 < holyolli> hi owl
12:47 < Lorini_> bye - cya next year
12:47 < holyolli> cu Lorini_! guten rutsch
12:48 < Lorini_> dir auch :) und allen andren auch
12:48 < Lorini_> macht euch schöne tage
12:48 < holyolli> ebenso
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19:31 < tsa> moin
19:41 < cOdEz> hi
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19:49 < kasc> moin
19:50 < netcrow> hi
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20:24 < tsa> hm...anyone have a fix for the python problem? (_sre)
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20:26 < tsa> re
20:27 < owl> re
20:40 < kasc> python ist bei mir sauber durchgelaufen...
20:47 < tsa> hm..
20:47 < tsa> hier will es nich
20:48 < kasc> dafür tut hier so einiges andere nicht...
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20:48 < holyolli> re
20:49 < tsa> moin holyolli
20:50 < holyolli> tach tsa
20:50 < tsa> kasc: naja, der 1.7 build ist bei mir sowieso komplett broken..
20:50 < tsa> !> ImportError: No module named _sre
20:50 < tsa> hm.
20:51 < kasc> oh
20:51 < kasc> moin holyolli
20:51 < holyolli> hi kasc
20:51 < kasc> naja, nach vielem Probieren komme ich wenigstens bis stage 5...
20:52 < holyolli> hm. /me bricht noch an stage1 =)
20:52 < tsa> oh..
20:52 < holyolli> tsa: glibc suckt noch immer
20:52 < tsa> pseudo-cross komm ich bis stage 0.
20:52 < kasc> ja, die will bei mir auch nicht
20:53 < tsa> ohne pseudo-cross klappt stage 0 und 1 problemlos, dafuer ist die chroot kaputt und stage2 ff. brechen komplett.
20:53 < kasc> pseudo-cross klappt bei mir gar nicht und die glibc3.1 weigert sich wehement
20:53 < tsa> fehler?
20:53 < tsa> optimisation?
20:53 < tsa> oder asm-krams bei kill.os
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20:54 < holyolli> hi tcr
20:54 < kasc> die glibc ohne pseudo-cross will den gcc3, den ich so auf meinem host system nicht habe und nicht installieren will
20:54 < tcr> moin holyolli
20:55 < tsa> ah
20:55 < kasc> und mit pseudo-cross gibt es viele verschiedene wilde, teilweise nichtmal reproduzierbare Fehler...
20:55 < tsa> hm...ich hab hier inzwischen den 2.95.3 komplett weggeworfen und nen 3.2.1 installiert.
20:55 < tsa> (nicht, dass mich das irgendwie weiterbringen wuerde..)
20:57 < kasc> der 2.95.3 ist mir irgendwie sympathischer... damit baut noch fast alles...
20:58 < tsa> gcc 3 baut angeblich schnellere binaries.
20:59 < tsa> dafuer bricht dann leider die haelfte
20:59 < kasc> ich dachte nur für c++
20:59 < tsa> ..und die andere haelfte muss man neu bauen wegen ABI changes..
21:00 < tsa> betrifft afaik auch c, allerdings nur in geringem maße ..
21:00 < kasc> c't oder iX haben doch mal berichtet... hast du den Bericht gelesen?
21:03 < kasc> in vielen Fällen sollen die binarys aus c größer und langsamer werden oder nur unwesentlich schneller
21:03 < kasc> hab aber nur überflogen
21:04 < tsa> hm...keine ahnung
21:04 < tsa> hab nur c't hier..
21:04 < tsa> iX liegt @work rum
21:04 < kasc> muß mal suchen...
21:12 < kasc> iX 9/01, ab Seite 60
21:12 < kasc> geht allerdings um den gcc 3.0
21:13 < kasc> ich sollte die mal ausgiebiger lesen, die riecht noch nach frisch gedruckt *fg*
21:16 < kasc> andersrum als ich es gesagt habe: c läuft etwas besser, c++ macht aber noch Zicken und man muß alle libs neu kompilieren
21:17 < kasc> ich weiß aber nicht, in wie weit das noch auf den 3.1 zutrifft
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21:48 < tsa> naja, libs neu kompilieren gilt weiterhin, wegen besagter abi changes..
21:48 < tsa> fuer c++, wohlgemerkt
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22:02 < holyolli> hola Mike1
22:02 < Mike1> moin
22:03 < tcr> moin Mike1
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22:04 * Mike1 waves holyolli, tcr und master SMP
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22:04 < tsa|ut> hi Mike1
22:04 < tcr> everything fine`?
22:04 < Mike1> hi tsa
22:04 < Mike1> tcr: sure und you ?
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22:07 < tcr> Mike1: yeah, here too.
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22:15 < tsa|ut> hm..
22:15 < owl> hi tcr, Mike1
22:15 < Mike1> owlita como te va?
22:15 < owl> Mike1: pardon?
22:15 < Mike1> how are you ?
22:15 < owl> ok. thx. and you?
22:15 < Mike1> i am great thx
22:15 < Mike1> :)
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23:01 < tsa|ut> re holyolli
23:01 < holyolli> re
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23:01 < owl>  strike!
23:01 < owl> re holyolli
23:01 < tsa> owl?
23:01 < holyolli> hi owl
23:02 < owl> someone already tried to use alsa in rock-1.5.20? at me the alsa-driver-rc3,4,6 didn't run (kernel 2.4.19) but alsa-driver-rc5 runs... wtf is wrong with the other drivers? *confused*
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23:03 < blindcoder> hi
23:04 < owl> hi blindcoder. are you ill? (--> still awake?!)
23:04 < blindcoder> hmm... looks like neither fake nor nos are coming to 19C3...
23:04 < owl> huh? why?
23:04 < tsa> wos?
23:04 < holyolli> oh...y?
23:04 < tsa> why?
23:04 < blindcoder> owl: hi. neither one. Playing Age of Mythology
23:04 < tsa> hm?
23:05 < blindcoder> I wrote a mail to our CCC List 4 days ago asking when to meet on the 26th and other stuff... noone answered...
23:05 < tsa> hm..
23:05 < owl> mail??? 4 days ago..? huh?
23:05 < tsa> so you'll arrive on 26th, too?
23:05 < blindcoder> owl: yes...
23:06 < blindcoder> owl: ccc@bingo, you should have got it, too
23:06 < owl> hm. should have... moment
23:06 < blindcoder> tsa: yes. I plan to leave Ingolstadt around 08:00
23:06 < tsa> blindcoder: which means arrival when?
23:06 < blindcoder> so if all goes well I should be at the hakp in the early afternonn
23:06 < tsa> we'll leave bielefeld at about 15.oo
23:07 < blindcoder> tsa: I hope I'm already there by then :)
23:07 < tsa> blindcoder: i see
23:07 < blindcoder> I still don't know how to manage all that hardware...
23:08 < blindcoder> 2 or 3 Monitors, 2 IBM's 4 SS[12]0 plus esden's stuff. and all that into a Seat Ibiza
23:09 < tsa> hehe
23:09 < tsa> blindcoder: whoaver arrives first has to organise a good place in the hakp..
23:10 < blindcoder> tsa: AFAIK clifford will be there in the morning already
23:10 < tsa> ah, ok
23:13 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off to bed. tomorraw's going to be a loong day
23:14 < holyolli> n8 blindcoder
23:15 < tsa> cya blindcoder
23:17 < tcr> blindcoder: ?
23:33 < cOdEz> re
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