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--- Log opened Fri Dec 27 00:00:32 2002 --- Day changed Fri Dec 27 2002 00:08 * tcr brb 00:08 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DDDB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 00:12 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D031.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:41 < zer0_o> re tcr 00:44 < tcr> re ;) 00:45 < zer0_o> darf ich dich mal was fragen? 00:47 < martin_> darf ich auch noch mal kurz stoeren? 00:47 < zer0_o> was ist der konkrete unterschied von linux zu unix? oder, warum machst du auf linux und nicht unix? 00:48 < zer0_o> stör du nur =) 00:49 < martin_> Netwerk einstellen: IP, Brodcast und Maske richtig eingestellt. Kann aber nur die Rechner im lokalen Netz pingen. Nach draussen bekomme ich immer "Network is unreachable" 00:49 < tcr> linux ist nur ein unix clone, "written from scratch" wie es im englischen so schön heißt 00:49 < martin_> Ich benutz ein Router 00:49 < tcr> martin_: hardware router? 00:49 < martin_> ein alter pc mit nem drock 00:49 < martin_> also ja ?! 00:49 < tcr> martin_: default route richtig eingestellt? 00:50 < tcr> ne, dann nein ;) 00:50 < martin_> hmm, auch mit ifconfig? 00:50 < tcr> ne, mit dem befehl `route' ;) 00:51 < tcr> was hast du denn für "clienten" in deinem lokalen netzwerk? Alles linux? Alles ROCK? 00:52 < martin_> ja, nur das gentoo linux aufn ppc gerade nicht 00:52 < martin_> aber ja, ich war zu doof die doku zu lesen 00:52 < martin_> route add -net default gw $GTWAY netmask 0.0.0.0 metric 1 ?? 00:53 < tcr> /etc/setup.d/20-network 00:53 < tcr> oder editierst /etc/conf/network per hand 00:54 < martin_> nein, ich stelle es gerade auf meinem PPC ein und da laeuft heute noch kein rock. nur gentoo linux 00:54 < martin_> die gibt es momentan noch gar nicht. 00:54 < tcr> PPC rock? 00:54 < martin_> ich hoff doch bald ... 00:55 < tcr> https://www.rocklinux.de/projects/powerpc/powerpc.html 00:56 < tcr> route add default gw IP_DEINES_ROUTERS dev DEIN_INTERFACE 00:57 < martin_> supi, danke 00:58 < martin_> ja, Rene wollte sich einwenig um ne aktuellere PPC-Version kuemmern. Dazu brauvht er nur ein iBook auf dem schon entwas drauf ist ;) und dasbis morgen :8 00:59 < tcr> hmm, ich wollt mir auch noch nächstes jahr ein powerpook zulegen. Warte immernoch, dass es etwas billiger wird ;) aber da kann man wohl bei apple laaaange warten ;) 01:00 < martin_> ja leider. Aber ein iBook ist gar icht so sher teuer und auch recht schoen 01:00 * martin_ tippt zu schnell 01:02 < martin_> https://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-ppc-install.xml - das wird noch ein langer Abend. 01:02 < tcr> naja in ffm bekommt man ein iBook 2 SE 12" mit ner Combo 30G, mit 256 MB Ram und ner Radeon 7500 32MB für 1840,- 01:02 < tcr> hab zur zeit aber nur ~900 locker ;) 01:02 < tcr> +aber 01:03 < tcr> ups 01:03 < tcr> doch kein +aber 01:04 < martin_> https://www.mac-preise.de 01:04 < martin_> hmmm, dann musst du noch einwenig arbeiten gehen. 01:05 < tcr> hachja 01:05 < martin_> Aber ein iBook ist auch nicht das tollste 01:06 < martin_> Jedenfalls nicht fuer Linux. Eine Maustaste ist schon nerfend. Und WLAN fuer 135 Euro auch ncht billig ... 01:06 < martin_> Aber dafuer laeuft es immer und geht nicht so leicht kaputt 01:07 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F263.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:08 < zer0_o> lo blindcod1r 01:09 < tcr> martin_: naja, ein apfel ist eben ein apfel ;) und ich find die powepooks ziemlich geil 01:09 < martin_> 'Now, it's time to start the "bootstrap" process. This process will last 1-4 hours depending on how zippy your machine is.' - ick bin mueeeeeede!! 01:10 < martin_> tcr: ja sind sie auch. Aber ein 12" iBook ist leicht und passt immer in jede Tasche 01:10 < tcr> hmm 01:10 < tcr> sind die nicht lauter? 01:11 < martin_> He he. Noe. Der Luefter brummt sehr leise und geht meist nur an, wenn man es abends mit unter die Bettdecke nimmt :) 01:12 < martin_> Er geht sehr selten an. Die Festplatte hoert man gar nicht. Meine zumindest nicht. 01:13 < tcr> hmmm 01:13 < martin_> Aber ein PowerBook sieht noch netter aus ... ich verstehe dich sehr. 01:15 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD958FDDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:16 < martin_> tcr: Du bist auch aktiver ROCK Linux Entwickler? 01:16 < tcr> naja, weiß nicht 01:16 < martin_> ;) wie das? 01:17 < tcr> ich kümmer mich mit um 1.6 seit ner woche oder so 01:18 < martin_> Dann machst du ja viel mehr als ich. Ich bin nur so ein dRock-user. 01:18 -!- voran [~hdw_user@196.40.64.219] has joined #rocklinux 01:18 < voran> hi 01:18 < tcr> hi voran 01:19 < martin_> Aber dRock-Linux ist immerhin die erste Distribution die ich noch nicht kaputt bekommen habe. 01:19 < martin_> hi voran 01:19 -!- voran is now known as demian 01:19 < tcr> ah, even hi demian :) 01:19 < demian> how can i make in.rlogind work in inetd.conf ? 01:19 < demian> :) 01:20 < tcr> why thell do you intend to use the r-tools at all? 01:20 < demian> already built netkit-rshd, but i need to add it to services file and inetd.conf 01:21 < demian> not for me, for some Uni students which need to execute free commands in experimental machines 01:21 < tcr> you shouldn't use them anyway. What's wrong with ssh? 01:21 < demian> hey hey, i am conscient, but isnt my fault :), i just need them running for them 01:21 < demian> i dunt cre about them later :p 01:23 < demian> rock's services file doesnt have a line for such services 01:23 < demian> s/cre/care 01:24 < demian> j #linpeople 01:24 < demian> sorry for that 01:25 < tcr> login stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/sbin/tcpd in.rlogind 01:25 < demian> does this also run in.rshd ? 01:26 < tcr> nope 01:26 < tcr> shell stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/sbin/tcpd in.rshd 01:27 < demian> thanx 01:27 < demian> but.. i still need entries for them in services file 01:28 < tcr> huh? 01:29 < demian> /etc/services 01:29 < tcr> they should actually be there already 01:29 < demian> does rsh and that uses specific ports ? 01:29 < tcr> as they are delivered with the default services file 01:29 < demian> not here.. dunno why :( 01:29 < tcr> login 513/tcp 01:29 < tcr> shell 514/tcp 01:29 < demian> there is klogin, for kerberos only 01:30 < demian> cool, thanx a lot :), u again helping me :) 01:30 < demian> cya, have nice days this week 01:30 < tcr> lol 01:30 < tcr> have phun ;) bye 01:31 -!- demian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.219] has quit ("leaving") 01:34 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D031.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("gn8 all") 01:38 < zer0_o> i have a bios that supports only 256 mb ram per slot... is there a posibility to say linux ( if there are 512 mb on the chip ) there are more than 256 mb available ? 02:11 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 03:08 < martin_> gn8 03:08 -!- tomik [~owned@bremaiva.worldonline.cz] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:08 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:13 -!- martin_ [~martin@pD9E7A39D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Bye bye") 03:27 < zer0_o> to answer my question above =) no there isn't , but if the linux doesn't support so much, and the mainboard distributor doesn't have a good bios available, then you can flash your rom with linuxbios ^^ nice thing, i think i'll try it soon 04:33 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@pop-be-10-2-dialup-5.freesurf.ch] has quit ("=)") 04:51 < huebi> Moin 05:27 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p5090BE0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:31 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p5090B566.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:54 -!- tsa [~tsa@213.173.58.231] has joined #rocklinux 05:54 < tsa> moin. 06:45 -!- tsa [~tsa@213.173.58.231] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 06:47 -!- martin__ [~martin@pD9E7A39D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:47 < martin__> re 09:31 < aszlig> rehi 09:32 < aszlig> hehe, almost all people died in here ;> 09:32 < aszlig> 'cause they are on 19c3 ;P 09:33 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 09:48 < martin__> bye bye .. go to 19C3 ... away 09:48 -!- martin__ [~martin@pD9E7A39D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #rocklinux ("Bye bye") 09:48 * Ge0rG is already there ;) 10:37 < esden_> hi all 10:37 -!- You're now known as esden 10:37 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 10:37 < esden> greets from 19c3 11:19 -!- tsa [~tsa@213.173.58.231] has joined #rocklinux 11:19 < tsa> moin. 11:56 < esden> hi tsa 12:00 < tsa> huhu esden!! 12:06 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 12:23 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 13:00 < aszlig> 'lo tsa 13:17 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812E85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:18 < tcr> moin all 13:27 -!- th [~th@thzn.de] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:14 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812E85.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 15:06 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812E85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:40 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522AA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:40 -!- apan [~guz@as20-6-5.kp.g.bonet.se] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:56 -!- apan [~guz@as20-6-5.kp.g.bonet.se] has joined #rocklinux 15:56 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-130-202-bs2.tiscali.ch] has joined #rocklinux 16:12 -!- owl [~mail-spam@213.173.58.15] has joined #rocklinux 16:12 -!- th [th@rocklinux.de] has joined #rocklinux 16:12 < th> re 16:16 < owl> hi 16:20 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 16:20 < Mike1> moin all 16:20 < Mike1> ping owl 16:21 < th> hi owl, hi Mike1 16:21 < Mike1> master th :) 16:37 < tsa> re 16:37 -!- owl [~mail-spam@213.173.58.15] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:20 < esden> re 17:25 < Mike1> hi esdy 17:34 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:05 < fake> buha. 18:07 < Mike1> buha? 18:08 < esden> spin 18:08 < esden> hi mike *hug* 18:15 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc1-stoc3-4-cust247.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit ("leaving") 18:16 -!- ichilton [~ian@pc1-stoc3-4-cust247.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #rocklinux 18:26 -!- simon [ff54e55ba7@62.140.27.4] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Nickname Enforcement))) 18:26 -!- simon-- [b648036f56@62.140.27.4] has joined #rocklinux 18:33 -!- dennis_ [~root@213.173.58.49] has joined #rocklinux 18:34 < dennis_> hi 18:35 < apan> hello 18:36 < tcr> moin dennis 18:36 < dennis_> hoi 18:36 < tsa> tag dennis_ 18:36 < tsa> als root zu ircen ist eine recht schlechte idee. 18:37 < dennis_> upps 18:37 -!- dennis_ [~root@213.173.58.49] has quit (Client Quit) 18:37 < aszlig> *lol* 18:39 -!- dennis_ [~lug00-in@pima.hostsharing.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:39 < dennis_> re 18:39 < snyke> hi root-irc 18:39 < snyke> *merk* :) 18:39 < tsa> hehe 18:39 < dennis_> hrhr 18:39 < tcr> hej apan. legät? 18:39 < tsa> [x] bitte kippen sie zur strafe den apfelsaft ueber die tastatur 18:40 < snyke> mit Ketchup? 18:40 * tcr brb 18:40 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812E85.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 18:40 < tsa> snyke: soll mir egal sein..wir koennten ihn auch mit bockwurst bewerfen.. 18:40 < tsa> ;-) 18:45 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812E0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:50 < apan> hej tcr 18:51 < snyke> tsa: lol 18:51 < tcr> hmm /me's wondering what Terry actually wants to say in his most recent eMail. 18:55 < tsa> i have no idea.. 19:00 -!- apan [~guz@as20-6-5.kp.g.bonet.se] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:17 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-130-202-bs2.tiscali.ch] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:33 -!- dennis_ [~lug00-in@pima.hostsharing.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 19:52 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-137-117-bs2.tiscali.ch] has joined #rocklinux 20:06 -!- apan [~guz@as20-6-5.kp.g.bonet.se] has joined #rocklinux 20:07 < Mike1> hi apan 20:07 < apan> hi mike 20:16 < apan> is anyone here running dettuxx ? 20:17 < tcr> hm, nope. what's that at all? 20:18 < apan> https://dettuxx.ghettot.org/ 20:21 < tsa> apan: uhm..nope..why are you asking? 20:23 < apan> just wondering 20:23 < apan> if i'm alone 20:23 < tcr> hmm. well, i can't see anything special on it 20:24 < apan> well, no 20:24 < tsa> tcr: oh, it is special - unusable by default, with most stuff broken 20:24 < apan> are you going to ccc ? 20:24 < tsa> we're there.. 20:24 < apan> oh 20:24 < apan> nice ? 20:24 < tsa> sure. 20:36 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-137-117-bs2.tiscali.ch] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:02 -!- simon-- is now known as simon 21:09 -!- apan [~guz@as20-6-5.kp.g.bonet.se] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:15 -!- KeM [~b_foo@c81-0-132-69.catch.sdsl.no] has joined #rocklinux 21:15 * Mike1 greets the nordish lands 21:20 < Mike1> whois paperclip 21:20 < Mike1> oops 21:44 < KeM> *yawn* 22:20 -!- KeM [~b_foo@c81-0-132-69.catch.sdsl.no] has quit (",") 22:25 -!- demian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.221] has joined #rocklinux 22:25 < demian> hi! 22:25 < Mike1> merry xmast d3bian :) 22:25 < demian> i had a brief question... 22:25 < demian> Mike1! 22:25 < demian> i though u were lost :p 22:25 < demian> thanx, u2 22:25 < Mike1> nah i am still very alive 22:25 < demian> and new year btw 22:26 < demian> u never answered my mail, so i though that 22:26 < Mike1> mail? 22:26 < demian> sed 's,/[^/]*$,\1,' 22:26 < Mike1> what mail? 22:26 < demian> what does that do ? 22:27 < demian> 2 Dec 6 Miguel A. Bolanos (967) Proyecto 22:27 < Mike1> mm.... 22:27 < Mike1> i thought i had replyed to you 22:27 < demian> echo "usr/share/xmms/foo" | sed 's,/[^/]*$,\1,' 22:27 < demian> this remove basename of input 22:28 < demian> Mike1: not arrived nth 22:28 < demian> but, how this sed line does ? 22:28 < demian> what is *$ and \1 ? 22:28 < Mike1> demian i am not exaclty into sed 22:28 < Mike1> sorry 22:30 < tcr> demian: that even doesnt work here 22:31 < demian> tcr: the output should be: usr/share/xmms 22:31 < demian> sample: 22:32 < tcr> where is this used? 22:32 < tcr> it's completely nonsense to use sed for this puprose 22:32 < demian> [ scar ] ~ > echo "usr/share/info/screen.info-3" | sed 's,/[^/]*$,\1,' 22:32 < demian> usr/share/info 22:32 < demian> [ scar ] ~ > 22:32 < demian> tcr: sure, pkg-remove 22:32 < demian> it is used in rmdir -p 22:33 < demian> as ROCK's flist doesnt directories in its flists 22:33 < tcr> what version? 22:33 < demian> *doesnt log* 22:34 < demian> ROCK's flist only culd contain empty dirs and created files 22:34 < demian> so, u use rmdir -p with that sed cmd to delete its base directories if they are empty 22:34 < demian> umm. cvs sources 22:35 < demian> Aug 2 11:24 /rock/opt/rock/rock-1.5/scripts/Build-Pkg 22:35 < tcr> https://cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/misc/sysfiles/usr/sbin/pkg-remove?rev=1.1.38.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup 22:35 < tcr> are you talking about this version? 22:35 < tcr> recently i rewrote the pkg-tools from scratch 22:35 < demian> cool 22:35 < demian> ill have to update me then 22:36 < demian> but.. so.. how did u solve that in pkg-remove ? 22:36 < Mike1> demian yes update ur ass 22:36 < tcr> what's up to Build-Pkg? 22:36 < demian> see: 22:37 < demian> if find bin boot etc lib sbin usr var opt \ 22:37 < demian> \( -not -type d -or -type d -empty \) \ 22:37 < demian> -and \( -newer $base/src/temp.time_stamp -or \ 22:37 < demian> -cnewer $base/src/temp.time_stamp \) -printf "%p\n" 22:37 < demian> egrep -v "^($flistdel)\$" >> $base/src/temp.lst 22:37 < demian> 22:37 < demian> 22:37 < Mike1> ggrrr 22:37 < demian> this will generate a flist like this one for sample: 22:38 < tcr> wait up 22:38 < demian> screen: usr/bin/screen 22:38 * Mike1 starting to feel flood comming over the chan ... 22:38 < demian> screen: usr/bin/screen-3.9.12 22:38 < demian> screen: usr/share/info/screen.info 22:38 < demian> screen: usr/share/info/screen.info-1 22:38 < demian> screen: usr/share/info/screen.info-2 22:38 < demian> 22:38 < tcr> plz fetch the most recent version from the cvs 22:38 < tcr> then say me the line number you are talking about 22:39 < demian> :s 22:39 < tcr> and then we'll do further steps, is that ok? 22:39 < demian> ok 22:39 < tcr> besides i'm currently watching tv ;) and so i'm just spending one of my brain sides to you ;) 22:40 * Mike1 thanks tcr for stopping saving the chan from been flooded 22:40 < Mike1> *g 22:43 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-129-14-bs2.tiscali.ch] has joined #rocklinux 22:43 < Mike1> 0_o 22:43 < Mike1> :) 22:43 < zer0_o> o_0 22:43 < Mike1> greetings zer0_o 22:44 < zer0_o> too mike1 22:44 < zer0_o> how are you ? 22:44 < zer0_o> hm i didn't set up rock, but idling here is fun ^^ 22:44 < Mike1> lol 22:45 < Mike1> i am good thanks zer0_o 22:45 < Mike1> so what stopped you from stting up rock? 22:45 < zer0_o> freebsd ^^ 22:45 < zer0_o> but #freebsd is such an unpersonal channel 22:45 * Mike1 goes for openbsd rather than freebsd 22:47 < zer0_o> yeah.. i understand 22:47 < zer0_o> but i'm a unix/linux n00b, so i think, fbsd is a good beginning 22:47 < Mike1> yeah it is 22:48 < Mike1> netbsd is also fun 22:48 < zer0_o> at the moment i stuck in the handbook =) great documentation 22:48 < zer0_o> i love it ^^ 22:49 < zer0_o> yeah, =) in school we booted with netbsd on a bootable cdrom 22:49 < Mike1> zer0_o: yeah we are aware of the Documentation issue on rock 22:49 < Mike1> it is something we will work around in the future 22:50 < demian> fantastic !!!! 22:50 < demian> rmdir -p "$(dirname "$file")" 22:50 < zer0_o> that's a great idea =) i never knew that a documentation can be so good and easy to understand .. 22:50 < demian> didnt know 'dirname' exists :p 22:50 < Mike1> demian: now you know :) 22:50 < demian> sorry tcr , problem solved, i wont use sed anymore :) 22:50 * demian excited 22:51 < tcr> demian: rmdir -p "${file%/*}" also works, and does produces one process less (which is important if you run that in a large loop) 22:53 < demian> tcr: yeah, i know, i was having troubles doing sth like that , also tried a large awk cmd inside a loop to do what 'dirname' does :( 22:54 < zer0_o> Mike1, where is this doc to find? 22:54 < Mike1> zer0_o: i will let you know when docs are improved 22:54 < demian> other dude! 22:54 < demian> \( -not -type d -or -type d -empty \) \ 22:54 < demian> here 22:55 < zer0_o> ah, its in work 22:55 < demian> ah no, nothing, forget it :p 22:55 < demian> cya 22:55 < demian> have a nice new year 22:57 < zer0_o> Mike1, are the ports in freebsd also used in other os's like linux/unix' ? 22:58 < Mike1> yeah 23:00 < zer0_o> do you think, rock will have the ports available too? 23:01 < demian> funny, sometimes i think tcr is my answering machine :p when i come here 23:01 < demian> hehe 23:01 < demian> bye 23:01 < zer0_o> bye demian 23:01 -!- demian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.221] has left #rocklinux () 23:04 < zer0_o> i'm sitting on a lanparty 23:05 < Mike1> zer0_o: yeah we will work on ports 23:07 < tcr> uh demian has gone ???? i thought there was a question about Build-Pkg 23:15 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-129-14-bs2.tiscali.ch] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:50 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 23:51 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-129-14-bs2.tiscali.ch] has joined #rocklinux 23:55 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-129-14-bs2.tiscali.ch] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) --- Log closed Sat Dec 28 00:00:50 2002