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--- Log opened Tue Jan 07 00:00:01 2003
--- Day changed Tue Jan 07 2003
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00:03 < esden> re sjefen 
00:03 < sjefen> :)
00:03 < esden> ;-)
00:03 < sjefen> *still working on my first build*
00:12 * -> esden working on proseminar
00:12 < sjefen> proseminar?
00:17 < esden> yes ... a talk at my university that I get grades for it ...
00:17 < sjefen> ah.
00:17 < sjefen> what are you going to talk about then?
00:28 * hoho is bored
00:29 < sjefen> hoho: go compile something :)
00:29 < hoho> sjefen: Im compiling gaim
00:30 < sjefen> hehe.
00:30 < sjefen> ain't we always :)
00:31 < hoho> well yes people in this chan are compileing stuff 98% of the time
00:33 < sjefen> hehe
00:34 < esden> sjefen: about perl
00:36 < sjefen> esden: heh, good luck then :)
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01:00 < esden> sjefen: thanks ... I hope that I will not need luck ... ;-)
01:02 < sjefen> :)
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03:01 < rolla> re
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03:22 < nos> hi there
03:23 < nos> can anyone help me with the rock installation
03:51 < rolla> what is your problem?
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04:23 < nos> someone still on?
04:23 < nos> sorry rolla read your msg too late
04:24 < nos> r u still on?
05:17 < nos> ok goin to work now
05:17 < nos> c ya
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07:23 < blindcoder> moin
07:59 < esden> morning
08:18 < blindcoder> okay, fetched up 25% of E-Mails >_<
08:18 < blindcoder> moin esden
08:25 < esden> blindcoder: lot to do what ?
08:26 < blindcoder> somewhat, yeah
08:26 < esden> hmm ... curl is dumping core ... >_<
08:26 < blindcoder> @work since 06:30
08:27 < esden> You really could not wait to get to work ?
08:27 < blindcoder> I can't wait to go back home :)
08:31 < esden> aja
08:35 < blindcoder> *yawns*
08:43 < esden> blindcoder: hint -> advogato.org
08:44 < blindcoder> *AARRRGGGHHH*
08:44 < blindcoder> NO COFFEE LEFT!!!
08:44 * blindcoder dead
08:44 * -> esden reviving blindcoder 
08:45 * -> esden giving mouth to mouth breathing to blindcoder ;-)
08:45 < esden> (that will revive him for sure)
08:45 < blindcoder> no, that woul REALLy kill me >_<
08:45 < blindcoder> hmm...
08:46 < blindcoder> where can I get coffee around here.... *thinking*
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09:57 < blindcoder> esden: ping
10:40 < huebi> Moin
10:42 < blindcoder> moin huebi
10:42 < huebi> moin blindcoder :-)
10:44 < blindcoder> how's things?
10:45 < huebi> fine, I made many tests on 1.6 - a new prerelease will be avaliable later today if I can upload the isos
10:50 < blindcoder> nice :)
10:51 * blindcoder is currently trying to compile Apache2. on Solaris
11:10 < blindcoder> hmm...
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11:39 < esden> re hi all
11:40 < esden> ok the proseminar has been moved one week ... puhh
11:41 < esden> I will never make order on my disk when I have importaint data on it !!!
11:41 < esden> grrr
11:41 < huebi> Moin esden. Did you send the disk to me?
11:42 < huebi> s/d/t/
11:47 < esden> huebi: sorry but not ... It is already extracted out of my alpha and in a box
11:47 < esden> but because of my proseminar I could not send it yet
11:47 < huebi> esden: Great. Do you send it today then?
11:48 < esden> no .. not today and probably not tomorrow
11:48 < huebi> hmmm
11:48 < esden> I still have too much to do with the proseminar .. :-(
11:48 * -> esden deleted his data for the seminar
11:48 < huebi> Autsch!
11:48 < esden> and has very short time to recreate them
11:49 < esden> an
11:49 < esden> I hope you can understand huebi that it will take some time till I can send the disk to you
11:50 < huebi> esden: can you do it on thursday?
11:50 < esden> But I will do it as soon as I can
11:50 < esden> huebi: I hope so
11:51 < huebi> esden: can you make it sure that you send it on thursday? Or on friday?
11:51 < th> re
11:52 < th> damnit
11:52 < huebi> moin th
11:52 < th> now the changes on glibc/ld.so broke libsafe
11:52 < blindcoder> re esden, hi th
11:52 < th> /sbin/ldconfig no such file or directory
11:52 < huebi> th: it's fixed.
11:52 < th> oh
11:52 < th> ;-)
11:52 < th> so i should update and restart
11:53 < blindcoder> fscking Solaris >_<
11:53 < blindcoder> Why can't we just put a decent Linux on the e10k?? Why? Why? WHY?!?!
11:53 < esden> huebi: no I can not. Sorry
11:54 < huebi> blindcoder: Because then you will see how _slow_ this box is.
11:54 < esden> lol
11:54 < huebi> esden: Grmpff
11:54 < huebi> esden: Saturday?
11:54 < blindcoder> huebi: I don't care about speed, but Apache2 doesn't compile on Solaris
11:55 < blindcoder> esden: how get myself added to other projects?
11:55 < th> huebi: it doesn't seem to be fixed
11:55 < huebi> th: I still have to commit the fixes. I latest one hour they are there
11:55 < th> huebi: nothing was committed
11:55 < th> ahh
11:55 < th> huebi: you really need to commit more often!
11:55 < huebi> th: I must go back to the office to get my sources.
11:56 < th> ahh
11:56 < th> i see
11:56 < esden> huebi: I do not want to make promisses, where there is a chance that I can not hold them
11:56 < esden> I only can promise that I will send it as soon as I can
11:56 < th> huebi: did you apply tcr's patch for broken glibc?
11:56 < huebi> the new router broke yesterday at 11h00
11:56 < th> huebi: in fact removing two cp's?
11:57 < huebi> esden: just promise a date and go for it. If you see you can't hold it, just tell me as soon as you see it. No problem for me
11:58 < huebi> th: No, I bunzip and copied them.
11:58 < huebi> And I fixed glibc.conf to link ldonfig to the right place.
11:59 < huebi> th: Did you read you mail? What do you think about /sbin/ldconfig as new place for ldconfig?
12:00 < esden> huebi: ok then I will send it on saturday
12:00 < esden> but will try to send it away sooner
12:01 < esden> saturday is very probable
12:01 < huebi> esden: Thanks, great *freu*
12:02 < th> huebi: i just read them and responded. it must be /bin
12:02 < th> aehm
12:02 < blindcoder> esden: regarding that advogato website
12:02 < esden> blindcoder: you mean on advogato ?
12:02 < th> sbin
12:02 < esden> ahh
12:02 < esden> hmm ... no idea ;-)
12:02 < esden> let me see
12:02 < blindcoder> esden: yes, how can I  get myself added to other projects?
12:02 < th> huebi: ok. so i'm really awaiting your commit now.
12:05 < huebi> th: ACK
12:05 * huebi wech now
12:05 < esden> blindcoder: you have to be logged in and then go to the project site (for example https://www.advogato.org/proj/ROCK%20Linux/) and there is a pulldown menu where you can set your relationship to this project
12:07 < blindcoder> well... no, there isn't... there is one at my own project (libgli) but not on others
12:08 < esden> hmm strange
12:09 < esden> blindcoder: I can join other projects ... 
12:09 < esden> hmm I know why ... you are not certified
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12:12 < esden_> hrmpf
12:12 < blindcoder> re :)
12:13 < esden_> blindcoder: wait till some people have certified you
12:13 < blindcoder> WEE! After only 6 months I will get my own account in the Windows-Domain! not that I actually care about it...
12:13 < esden_> that will not take long
12:13 < blindcoder> mkay
12:14 * -> esden_ writing a diary entry ...
12:15 < blindcoder> WTF???
12:16 < blindcoder> 674 47.27% Googlebot/2.1 (+https://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)
12:16 < blindcoder> 674 site hits by the googlebot?? It was half that number yesterday?!
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12:24 < esden> blindcoder: OFYI post online ;-)
12:36 < blindcoder> mom
12:39 < blindcoder> esden: did you update your binutils but not recompile some other things?
12:39 < blindcoder> aaah, 5 minutes to lunch :)
12:40 < esden> blindcoder: that is it ...
12:40 < esden> you think that when I update curl all should be fine ?
12:41 < blindcoder> try recompiling glibc first
12:41 < esden> hehe I have the newest glibc
12:41 < blindcoder> re-com-pileit
12:41 < esden> hmpf
12:41 < esden> ok
12:41 < esden> I have to get home first
12:42 < blindcoder> binutils, glibc, gcc and one or two I've missed need to be recompiled/updated together
12:42 < blindcoder> remember when I updated my glibc at home?
12:42 < esden> but binutils, gcc, glibc are out of the same build
12:42 < blindcoder> but you updated binutils aftar that, didn't you?
12:43 < esden> no
12:43 < blindcoder> ?
12:43 < esden> these are gem packets
12:43 < esden> that i installed from a cd I have created before cristmas
12:43 < blindcoder> oh.. I thought you updated your binutils?
12:44 < esden> I have simultanously with glibc and gcc and some others
12:45 < blindcoder> hmm... strange...
12:45 < blindcoder> try recompiling the broken programs, can't really think of anything else...
12:45 < blindcoder> can't think with an empty stomach, so I'm now going to lunch-break :)
12:46 < blindcoder> soo you later
12:46 < esden> cu
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13:26 < blindcoder> re.
13:37 < esden> re blindcoder 
13:41 < esden> blindcoder: where have you got the crypto filesystem patches
13:47 < blindcoder> esden: www.kerneli.org
13:47 < esden> danke
13:47 < blindcoder> you need both the kernel-patch and the util-linux patch
13:48 < esden> yes ... someone wanted to know that
13:48 < esden> that is why I wanted to know that so fast
13:48 < blindcoder> apply the util-linux patch, compile it and then install ONLY the moun, umount and losetup programs
13:48 < blindcoder> oh, I see
13:48 < blindcoder> hmm... damn Solaris....
13:49 < esden> ok thanks I will forward the info
13:49 < blindcoder> After commenting one line in /usr/incllude/signal.h it  works just fine..
13:49 < esden> blindcoder: "fass" "beiss"
13:49 < blindcoder> esden: please do, otherwise s/he might fsck up the system
13:49 < blindcoder> esdensomething to eat? where?
13:52 < esden> I only wanted to tell you to attack Solaris
13:52 < esden> perhups biting and catching would help ;-)
13:53 * blindcoder runs inte the server-room, bites 'blitz' and gets electrocuted
13:56 < blindcoder> https://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/01/07/0247234&mode=thread&tid=111 *ARGH*
14:04 * -> esden -> home
14:11 < fake> ahoi.
14:11 < blindcoder> tach
14:31 < blindcoder> extern int sigsendset(const procset_t *, int);
14:32 < blindcoder> WTF is wrong with that line?
14:35 < rolla_> re
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15:07 < blindcoder> hmm... bingo seems to never be able to keep its IP-Adresses for more tha a year...
15:42 < rolla_> what relase is 1.6 on now?
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16:11 < th> rolla_: short before pre4
16:11 < rolla_> :)
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16:45 < esden> re hi all
16:46 < esden> *yawn*
16:46 < rolla_> re esden
16:47 < th> huebi: got lost?
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17:10 < Mike1> Good day all
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17:15 < esden> ha curl is now working !
17:15 < esden> *jumparound*
17:17 < Satg> Hello people !!!
17:20 < esden> hi Satg 
17:24 < Mike1> hi esdy
17:25 < Satg> hi esden
17:30 < esden> hi Mike1 
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17:42 < Mike1> hi sjefen
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17:58 * tcr hails all
18:00 < esden> hi tcr 
18:01 < esden> hi sjefen 
18:01 < tcr> hi esden. say, is there any kernel option for LCD ?
18:02 < esden> tcr: nope
18:02 < esden> not that I knew
18:02 < tcr> so should work out of the box?
18:02 < esden> but what LCD do you mean ? 
18:02 < esden> you mean the serial/parallel character displays ?
18:03 < tcr> mom
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18:03 < owl> moin
18:04 < Satg> hi owl
18:05 < owl> hi Satg
18:06 < rolla_> re owl
18:07 < esden> hi owl 
18:07 < esden> *hug*
18:07 * Mike1 HUGS sed
18:08 < owl> hi esden, Mike1
18:09 * owl writes "report" and thinks about killing this fscking teacher
18:12 < esden> report ? ... how shell we understand that ?
18:12 < owl> referat..
18:13 < esden> ahh ... ok ... 
18:13 < owl> for fscking school
18:13 < Mike1> a un reporte!
18:13 * owl explodes
18:13 < Mike1> :)
18:13 < esden> owl stop exploding ... I want to see when you explode ... that will be a beautifull firework for sure
18:13 < owl> *grml*
18:14 < Mike1> esden do you think it will be seem from here also?
18:14 < owl> Mike1: of course
18:14 < Mike1> COOL!
18:15 < owl> Mike1: *g* yep. something i'm good for... a large firework :P
18:16 < Mike1> owl: i think that i could find some more things that you be "good for", then just fireworks ...
18:17 < Mike1> but now that i think about it .... owl ... "fireworks" .... this could be interesting ...
18:19 < owl> hm.
18:19 < owl> wee! corvus corvax! i love them :)
18:20 < tcr> th, huebi!
18:21 < Mike1> tcr!
18:21 < tcr> Mike1: !!!!!!!!!!!
18:21 < tcr> *scream for ice cream* :P
18:21 < Mike1> lol
18:21 < Mike1> wie gehts tcr?
18:21 < tcr> Mike1: today it began to snow a bit :) do you what snow is at all? ;P
18:21 < tcr> ach, ganz gut
18:22 < th> tcr: ack
18:22 < th> tcr: i'm waiting for huebi
18:22 < th> tcr: he did some fixing
18:22 < Mike1> tcr: /me has raced on several snowboarding events, so yes i know what snow is at all >_<
18:23 < tcr> th: why don't anyone of you both reply to pjotr's mail two days or so ago? He's waiting for the offical pre3 source tarball.
18:23 < th> tcr: oh
18:24 < esden> puhh .. writing sms is hard work !
18:24 < th> tcr: we need huebi to write the release-note and roadmap
18:24 < th> tcr: i won't release a tarball
18:24 < owl> on siemens... yes... :)
18:25 < tcr> th: but havent you sent a tarball to Alex for creating ISOs?
18:25 < th> tcr: no
18:25 < th> tcr: but he can checkout from cvs
18:25 < th> using the pre3 tag
18:25 < th> i'm really awaiting huebi
18:26 < th> anyways almost no time anymore for today...
18:27 < tcr> well. huebi is very special if it comes about such stuff ;)
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18:58 < armijn> re
18:58 < owl> re armijn
18:58 < armijn> hi owl
18:58 < armijn> is huebi awake?
18:59 < owl> 2 hours ago he was... but now...
19:01 < armijn> hmmkay, nevermind then
19:01 < esden> ok ... now I know what blog means ... (is it meaning something that I know what it is first now ?)
19:01 < esden> hi armijn !
19:01 < armijn> hi esden
19:01 < esden> armijn: how are you ?
19:01 < armijn> I promised huebi and ripclaw to send some stuff ages ago, might as well do it now
19:01 < armijn> esden: working on my Debian/ROCK Frankenstein Ultra1
19:01 < armijn> the install is a monster
19:02 < esden> I can imagine that you are right
19:02 < armijn> nothing is working properly
19:03 < esden> I am working on my 1.5.12/1.7-snapshot/glibc-2.3.1 frankenstein ;-)
19:03 < esden> but intel
19:03 < esden> armijn: hmm ... here is everything working fine now
19:03 < esden> since I updated 90% of base packages of 1.5.12
19:04 < armijn> esden: but this is UltraSparc :)
19:04 < esden> armijn: yes that is a _BIG_ difference
19:05 < Mike1> hi armijn\
19:06 < tcr> ah re esden: it's an LCD 4x20 matrix display (parallel)
19:06 < armijn> hi mike1
19:06 < esden> tcr: ok ... you do not need anything in the kernel
19:07 < tcr> thanks ;)
19:07 < esden> you only have to connect the display to your parallel port and to power... then edit /etc/LCDd.conf; LCDd; lcdproc <options>
19:08 < esden> then it should work ;-)
19:12 < esden> hmm ... 30 packets of the dietlibc target are now building *happy*
19:17 < armijn> wow...there's actually a prerelease of 1.6.0??
19:18 < tcr> actually 3 but some persons (>_<) lack on publishing such stuff ;)
19:18 < tcr> and pre4 is comming in few days
19:20 < armijn> going through the mailinglist...
19:20 < armijn> seems...huebi wasn't that happy with it?
19:21 < tcr> that was pre1
19:21 < tcr> pre2 hasnt been announced at all
19:22 < armijn> so, who's releasing it? not huebi...
19:23 < th> pre2 was a silent tagging
19:23 < th> re
19:23 < armijn> I'm just wondering...
19:23 < th> me was afraid too
19:24 < th> well afraid is not really the right word
19:25 < th> huebi is away since 12:05
19:25 < th> i don't have his phone-number
19:26 < armijn> but let me guess, it's just for ia32, no sparc :)
19:26 < th> oehm ;)
19:26 < th> i'm doing nothing on non-sparc
19:27 < th> aehm
19:27 < armijn> there are people with sparcs, so...
19:27 < th> i'm tired
19:27 < armijn> well, sparc64 that is....
19:30 < tcr> th: btw. why hasnt huebi committed his changes on glibc??
19:30 < th> tcr: that's exactly what i'm waiting for
19:31 < th> tcr: he does commit to few
19:32 < tcr> well. i will update the patches right now
19:32 < tcr> anyway.
19:32 < th> which patches?
19:33 < tcr> a few glibc patches produces hunks, yourself told me to update them ;)
19:33 < th> ahhh this one ;)
19:33 < th> yes thanks
19:43 < tcr> uh th
19:43 < th> ya?
19:44 < tcr> Apply patch /opt/rock-build/rock-1.5/base-config/glibc/dns-maxpacket.patch ...
19:44 < tcr> [...]
19:44 < tcr> patching file resolv/nss_dns/dns-network.c
19:44 < tcr> [...]
19:44 < tcr> Apply patch /opt/rock-build/rock-1.5/base-config/glibc/dns-network-overflow.patch ...
19:44 < tcr> patching file resolv/nss_dns/dns-network.c
19:45 < tcr> same file
19:45 < tcr> that's why it produces hunks
19:45 < tcr> should I move them together?
19:46 < th> yes. and rename it accordingly
19:48 < armijn> ok, am off
19:48 < armijn> l8r
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20:04 < blindcoder> rehi
20:04 < owl> hi blindcoder
20:04 < blindcoder> hi owly
20:06 < esden> huhu blindcoder *hug*
20:06 < esden> blindcoder: I fixed the curl problem
20:07 < blindcoder> esden: huhu *rehug*
20:07 < blindcoder> esden: what was the problem?
20:07 < esden> I inserted the cd from which I installed glibc,binutils and the other stuff and installed curl.gem ;-)
20:07 < esden> now curl is not coredmping anymore ;-)
20:07 < blindcoder> hehe :)
20:07 < blindcoder> why not just updating all packages?
20:07 * -> esden solving problems with a hammer ;-)
20:07 < esden> blindcoder: I am to shy
20:08 < esden> I should finally reinstall the whole box
20:08 < esden> but I want to wait a bit with it ...
20:08 < blindcoder> esden: will you be at bitz on Wednesday?
20:08 < esden> hmm ... dunno ... why ?
20:09 < esden> I was not planning to be there
20:09 < blindcoder> I want to install https://www.xpde.com/ on the SGI to shock Mani :D
20:09 < esden> x... what ? *click*
20:09 < esden> OHH
20:09 < esden> autsh
20:09 < esden> that hurts
20:09 < blindcoder> *hehe*
20:09 < esden> mani will kill you ;-)
20:10 < esden> I can not promise .. but perhups I will come by
20:11 < blindcoder> "Oy, Mani! Someone @19C3 had a SGI-Version of WinXP with him! Hope you don't mind... Mani? Mani! MAAANNNIIII!!!!"
20:11 < esden> ROFL
20:12 < sjefen> hehe
20:12 < blindcoder> hi sjefen
20:12 < sjefen> hello blindcoder :)
20:13 < sjefen> does the xpde look a lot like winxp?
20:14 < blindcoder> sjefen: as far as I see it it even features the "Task Manager"
20:14 < blindcoder> Haven't tried it yet, just seen it on Newsforge
20:14 < sjefen> hehe, ok.
20:15 < esden> good ... another patch chunk ready ... 
20:15 < blindcoder> https://www.xpde.com/modules.php?name=Screenshots
20:16 < blindcoder> here you can also see the Network Status Window
20:17 < sjefen> hehe, wish I had graphics :)
20:17 < blindcoder> sjefen: well... let's just say that a Windows User logged in as root couldn't possibly tell the difference within 10 minutes
20:18 < blindcoder> There's even the IE-Skin for Mozilla and Phoenix
20:18 < sjefen> blindcoder : hehe, think I'll check it out some day then. Just need to get this rockl compiled first :)
20:19 < blindcoder> sjefen: hehe :)
20:19 < esden> sjefen: use aaview ;-)
20:19 < blindcoder> I think abou giving it a try tomorrow or the day after
20:19 < sjefen> esden : lemme guess, uses the aalib eh? :)
20:19 < blindcoder> If it works I might package it :)
20:19 < esden> sjefen: yup
20:20 < blindcoder> But it's really sick... kinda like OpenGL bindings for PHP...
20:20 < esden> blindcoder: full ACK
20:20 < sjefen> esden : hehe, I had a tv card. Used aatv from school, you could see some long faces then :)
20:20 < blindcoder> *lol*
20:20 < esden> sjefen: you only have to change the font to a 8x8 font then everything looks fine ;-)
20:21 < sjefen> esden : hehe :)
20:21 < blindcoder> esden: I could also give you your tbird-build
20:21 < blindcoder> on Wednesday
20:24 < esden> blindcoder: you mean tomorrow ?
20:27 < blindcoder> erm... dammit...
20:27 < blindcoder> damn time shift...
20:27 < blindcoder> I thought Wednesday was the day after tomorrow...
20:27 < blindcoder> Well, then tomorrow
20:30 < blindcoder> From the FAQ:
20:30 < blindcoder> Will it clone blue screens, the sluggish start menu and so on?
20:30 < blindcoder> Nice joke!! we will try not to do it, but we are thinking about the blue screen... ;-)
20:30 < sjefen> hehe
20:31 < sjefen> you fellas heard about DVD Jon?
20:31 < blindcoder> nope
20:32 < sjefen> heard of CSS then?
20:32 < blindcoder> Content Scrambling System? yas
20:32 < blindcoder> I never had a DVD in my hands yet
20:32 < sjefen> yeah, the fella that found out about that CSS code was sued and stuff.
20:32 < blindcoder> much less in my DVD-Rom Drive
20:33 < sjefen> hehe
20:33 < blindcoder> yes, I read a small bits about DeCSS and stuff
20:33 < sjefen> yeah, well, however, he was free'ed on all points.
20:34 < sjefen> acquitted at all points :)
20:34 < blindcoder> and then wrote a tool called DVD Jon to rip DVDs?
20:35 < sjefen> think the tool was called DeCSS
20:35 < sjefen> the fella' is called DVD Jon, his name is Jon Johanessen or something.
20:35 < tcr> so th.
20:35 < blindcoder> well, you talked about something called 'DVD Jon' so I just thought that there was a program with that name :)
20:36 < sjefen> :)
20:36 < tcr> hope everything went right
20:36 < blindcoder> i see
20:36 < blindcoder> re tcr
20:36 < blindcoder> esden: ping
20:37 < esden> blindcoder: pong
20:37 < blindcoder> esden: I have thought about w3m
20:37 < tcr> moin blindy
20:37 < esden> blindcoder: and ?
20:37 < esden> blindcoder: I am sitting here and also thinking about it ... ;-)
20:37 < blindcoder> esden: since w3m has some predefined config-layouts maybe a multiple-choice between these would be more appropriate
20:38 < esden> I will only add some basic options like
20:38 < esden> with graphics support or without till now
20:39 < esden> I would use the other stuff as it is
20:39 < blindcoder> esden: that's what I mean. Just these 4/5 predefined. They contain almost all what a 'normal' user needs
20:39 < esden> as for now ...
20:39 < esden> I do not want to do to much ... It should not be a overkill (aka. "kosten nutzen faktor")
20:40 < blindcoder> yes that's what I mean, too...
20:40 < esden> good ;-)
20:40 < blindcoder> wait, I'll demonstrate you
20:40 < esden> o_O
20:41 < sjefen> What do you fellas think about making another choice avalible from the generic/desktop/boot/... option where you can choose to build fully compatible system, just without any X stuff at all?
20:41 < blindcoder> Custom Package Selection --> "- x11/*" ??
20:42 < sjefen> will that do it? will it drop all gnome and kde stuff etc. then?
20:43 < blindcoder> I'm not sure if it will be dropped, but it should be cause its dependencies aren't fufilled. At the very least the build of these packages wirll fail --> no packages for them
20:43 < sjefen> yeah..
20:46 < blindcoder> okay, I'm off to bed now, will read something
20:46 < blindcoder> good night everyone!
20:46 < sjefen> night blindc.
20:46 < tcr> gn8
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21:29 < owl> re
21:29 < rolla_> re
21:29 < owl> <-- almost dead
21:30 < rolla_> warum?
21:30 < owl> wrote 3 pages of report in about 2 hours or so... and collected the information at first... and so on... but now - finished :)
21:30 < rolla_> that is good
21:30 < rolla_> <-- has been coding perl all afternoon
21:31 < owl> *g* did you have fun with it?
21:31 < rolla_> oh yeah nothing more fun perl cgi
21:31 < owl> :)
21:32 < rolla_> it is for my clubs BMW site :)
21:32 < tcr> BMW in the USA .. hehe
21:33 < rolla_> what is so funny?
21:34 < tcr> it's not the typical type of car for americans ;)
21:35 < tcr> imagine an Al Bundy with a BMW ;)
21:35 < rolla_> Al bungy is not a typical American
21:35 < owl> "bayerischer mistwagen" (i'm sorry... i don't know how it's translated to english ;P and i guess it's better if i would not give it a try to translate... ;)
21:35 < rolla_> s/bungy/bundy/
21:36 < rolla_> mistwagen ?
21:36 < owl> j/k
21:36 < rolla_> I love BMW's :)
21:36 < owl> i know.
21:36 < rolla_> better than Audi's :p
21:36 < owl> rolla_: eh!
21:36 * rolla_ love poking fun at owl
21:36 < tcr> rolla_: well, mist = dung and wagen = car
21:37 < rolla_> ach so
21:37 < rolla_> öhm
21:37 < tcr> :P
21:37 < owl> dung car... dungeon car would be even better...
21:37 < rolla_> tcr: most americans want big SUV's :(
21:38 < rolla_> they are too dumb
21:38 < tcr> right ;) nothing over german cars!
21:38 < rolla_> how true
21:39 < rolla_> if you count my brother we have 5 BMW's :)
21:39 < rolla_> before that I had an Audi A4q
21:40 < tcr> where can you buy such cars? I mean, are there many offical settlements of Audi, BMW or Mercedes?
21:40 < rolla_> yeah
21:41 < rolla_> American is BMW's Audi and Mercedes biggest export market
21:41 < rolla_> there are 5 BMW dealers just in my city ;)
21:41 < tcr> i'd like to own a maybach ;)
21:42 < rolla_> why
21:42 < rolla_> Mercedes only brung that name out of history to make them look better
21:43 < tcr> i don't really like roal royes
21:44 < tcr> the maybach looks much better IMO
21:45 < rolla_> true
21:46 < rolla_> But I like to drive myself :)
21:47 < tcr> do you have a caprio?
21:47 < rolla_> caprio?
21:47 < rolla_> was ist das?
21:48 < tcr> well ..
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21:49 < tcr> rolla: a car whose "roof" can be switched back
21:49 < rolla_> oh a convertible
21:49 < rolla_> no
21:49 < rolla_> I do not have one
21:49 < rolla_> I have a coupe
21:49 < rolla_> no I am sorry I have limo now
21:50 < tcr> kaprio is the abbr for kapriolett, and capriolet should be an english word?
21:50 < tcr> so i thought caprio exist in english as well :)
21:50 < rolla_> nope
21:50 < rolla_> cabrio is what it is called
21:51 < rolla_> but most americans call it a convertible
21:51 < tcr> i actually meant that ;) in german it kabrio actually :) but it's spoken like a 'p' seemingly (well at least i speak it that way ;))
21:51 < rolla_> :)
21:52 < rolla_> where in germany are you tcr?
21:52 < tcr> near to mainz, the capital of rhineland-palatinate
21:53 < rolla_> ah yes I think I have talked to you before :)
21:54 < tcr> are you living in an area where it snows at least sometimes?
21:55 < rolla_> ja
21:55 < tcr> here it began to snow a bit today :)
21:55 < rolla_> we have had 35cm here in last week
21:55 < tcr> wow :P
21:55 < tcr> well the weather if totally fucked up here
21:55 < rolla_> ja
21:55 < rolla_> :)
21:55 < rolla_> warum?
21:55 < tcr> before vacation it was fucking cold, during vacation pissy mild and now after vacation fucking cold again
21:56 < tcr> everyday's walking to the bus stop is as hell
21:56 < tcr> my fingers freez and such stuff
21:57 < tcr> is cold as hell
21:57 < tcr> ^- nice oxymoron :D
21:57 < rolla_> ja
21:57 < rolla_> :)
21:57 < rolla_> you are back in school now?
21:57 < tcr> yap since monday
21:57 < tcr> will write an test in chemicals tomorrow
21:58 < tcr> chemistry
21:58 < rolla_> fun fun
21:59 < tcr> you know that there was flooding alarms in many german cities the last time? (now when the temperatures began to decrease, it's getting better)
21:59 < rolla_> yeah I had heard that
22:00 < rolla_> heard the rivers were creasting
22:05 < huebi> Moin
22:06 < owl> hi huebi
22:07 < huebi> hi owl
22:07 < huebi> th: PINg...
22:07 < tcr> moin :)
22:07 < huebi> huhu tcr
22:08 * huebi starts to commit to cvs again..
22:08 < huebi> tcr: ldconfig works
22:08 < tcr> yeap, updated the patches
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22:10 < toberkel> hi all
22:10 < tcr> hi
22:11 < toberkel> esden ?
22:12 < tcr> huebi: how is the 1.6pre3 tag called?
22:12 < tcr> rock-src-1.6.0pre3 or something?
22:12 < huebi> s/./_/
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22:14 < tcr> s/./_/ or s/./_/g?
22:14 < huebi> s/./_/g
22:15 < tcr> ok ;)
22:16 < huebi> tcr: commit changes _only_ to HEAD not to a branch
22:16 < tcr> nah, it's for pjotr to check out
22:17 < tcr> he needs a source tarball for announcning and stuff
22:17 < huebi> tcr: OK. Great that you do it. I had no time today for that.
22:19 < tcr> well you should answer his mail for the REALESE-NOTE stuff
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22:20 < holyolli> moin
22:20 < owl> hi holyolli
22:20 < holyolli> hi owl
22:21 < huebi>  ________________
22:21 < huebi> < Hallo holyolli >
22:21 < huebi>  ----------------
22:21 < huebi>   \
22:21 < huebi>    \   \_\_    _/_/
22:21 < huebi>     \      \__/
22:21 < huebi>            (oo)\_______
22:21 < huebi>            (__)\       )\/\
22:21 < huebi>                ||----w |
22:21 < huebi>                ||     ||
22:21 < huebi> 
22:21 < huebi> *g*
22:21 < holyolli> *froi* hi huebi
22:21 < rolla_> :)
22:21 < holyolli> hi rolla
22:21 < hoho> haha
22:21 < hoho> what is that? elksay?
22:22 < tcr> hmm, dont think an elf has got an utter
22:22 < tcr> elk
22:22 < hoho> oh right
22:22 < hoho> hmm
22:22 < hoho> well what has an utter and antlers?
22:23 < tcr> kind of sex transformation ;)
22:23 < rolla_> crossdressing cow?
22:24 < tcr> rolla_: for carneval? ;)
22:24 < rolla_> :)
22:25 < huebi> that was: cowsay -f moose Hallo holyolli
22:25 < hoho> -f?
22:25 < huebi> -f cowfile
22:25 < hoho> oh a different cowfile
22:25 < hoho> hehe
22:26 < hoho> cowsay/think is a great program
22:26 < tcr> indeed
22:26 < holyolli> ack
22:26 < hoho> syn
22:26 < hoho> er damit RST was the proper response to that
22:26 < tcr> a cow is even within some sparc code of the kernel ;)
22:27 < rolla_> :)
22:29 < tcr> where the eagles fly i'l soon be there, if you want to come along with me my friend, say the words and you'll be free from the mountains to the sea, we fixght for freedom again..
22:30 * tcr is listening to Manowar - Fight For Freedom
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22:30 < holyolli> hi tsa
22:30 < tsa> tag
22:30 < tcr> moin tsa
22:30 < owl> moin tsa
22:31 < huebi> tach tsa
22:31 < tsa> hi holyolli, tcr, owl, huebi
22:31 < hoho>  ______
22:31 < hoho> < ack! >
22:31 < hoho>  ------
22:31 < hoho>        \   \_______
22:31 < hoho>  v__v   \  \   O   )
22:31 < hoho>  (oo)      ||----w |
22:31 < hoho>  (__)      ||     ||  \/\
22:32 < tcr> :((( that's not very nice
22:32 < tsa> hi hoho with broken cow.
22:32 < hoho> hehe
22:32 < owl> cut into pieces...
22:32 < tcr> obvious that owl likes such scenes ;)
22:32 < hoho> haha satanic is funney
22:33 < tcr> 3v1l 666 ;)
22:33 < esden> lol .. I love people that are coming in the channel for 3 minutes and expect that someone reacts in that time ... 
22:34 < esden> hi all that I have not greeted till now ;-)
22:34 < tcr> <all not greeted by esden so far> hi esden
22:34 < holyolli> hi esden
22:35 < owl> tcr: what r u thinking about me?
22:35 < owl> re esden
22:35 < esden> owl: only the worst ;-)
22:36 < owl> esden: yeah. it seems so..
22:36 < tsa> hi esden
22:37 < esden> gosh ... I do not want @ uni tomorrow :-/
22:37 < tcr> owl: #define is_owl (process->status == 'Z')
22:37 < tcr> ;)
22:37 < esden> I want to hack on rock instead ! >_<
22:37 < esden> grr=
22:37 < owl> Z?
22:37 < tcr> zombie :P
22:37 < esden> owl: Z ::= zombie
22:37 < tsa> tcr: reparent to init and kill -9 $pid ;-)
22:37 < owl> tcr: *grr* ;P
22:37 < holyolli> esden: if you want to, we can change...i go to uni and you to my school
22:38 < holyolli> ;)
22:38 < owl> or go to my work... and fight with windows...
22:38 < esden> I do not want to go anywhere ... I want to stay home and hack on rock !
22:38 < owl> rock... the new drug...
22:38 < tcr> I want to stay home, hack on rock, eating pizza and Cola and being payed for that!!! ;)
22:39 < tcr> oh, already after 22:30 :/
22:39 < tcr> will go to bed now. Sleep all well.
22:39 < tcr> gn8
22:39 < tsa> tcr: ..but you have to stay on owl, don't get food or coffee and no money at all? ;-)
22:40 < owl> gn8 tcr
22:40 < owl> tsa!!!
22:40 < huebi> tcr: cu tomorrow
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22:40 < tsa> hm?
22:46 * -> esden is ACKing tcr ... !!!
22:47 * holyolli is now going to bed....cya
22:47 < esden> n8 holyolli 
22:47 < huebi> cu holyolli
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22:48 < tsa_> hmpf
22:48 < tsa_> re
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22:49 < esden> re tsa
22:56 < snyke> *yawns*
22:58 < tsa> ARGH
22:58 < tsa> something's broken with 1.7
22:58 < tsa> just tried a scripts/Build-Pkg binutils
22:59 < tsa> !> Found shared files with other packages:
22:59 < tsa> !> usr/lib/libbfd.la: binutils gdb
22:59 < tsa> !> usr/lib/libopcodes.la: binutils gdb
22:59 < tsa> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-binutils.out -> 9-binutils.err
23:11 * tsa disabling paranoia checks
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